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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,009 There's a lot of anger, towards the living. 3 00:00:14,010 --> 00:00:16,925 I was thrown to this doorway. 4 00:00:16,926 --> 00:00:18,627 It was kind of brutal. 5 00:00:18,628 --> 00:00:20,440 Aw, geez. 6 00:00:20,441 --> 00:00:22,871 They're banging on the walls... 7 00:00:22,872 --> 00:00:24,894 Wanting to leave. 8 00:00:24,895 --> 00:00:27,659 He went totally ballistic and killed her. 9 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:30,780 She's being assaulted. 10 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:35,399 I'm not alone inside of my body. 11 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:37,539 It's really bad in here. 12 00:00:37,540 --> 00:00:40,345 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:40,346 --> 00:00:42,622 Something is not right. 14 00:00:42,623 --> 00:00:43,726 I see dead people. 15 00:00:43,727 --> 00:00:45,928 This person might have been a serial killer. 16 00:00:45,929 --> 00:00:47,897 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:47,898 --> 00:00:49,256 You get those chills. 18 00:00:49,257 --> 00:00:50,799 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,398 He is darkness. He is evil. 20 00:00:53,399 --> 00:00:56,302 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:56,303 --> 00:00:57,988 I think she broke her neck. 22 00:00:57,989 --> 00:00:59,505 I rely on my partner. 23 00:00:59,506 --> 00:01:03,588 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 24 00:01:03,589 --> 00:01:05,361 You telling me the truth? 25 00:01:05,362 --> 00:01:08,408 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:08,409 --> 00:01:10,014 I think the Devil is down here. 27 00:01:10,015 --> 00:01:11,388 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:11,389 --> 00:01:13,072 Who the hell would do this? 29 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:14,977 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:14,978 --> 00:01:17,093 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:17,094 --> 00:01:18,559 Until the very end. 32 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:19,826 Who is he looking to kill? 33 00:01:19,827 --> 00:01:21,792 We uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:21,793 --> 00:01:23,882 You need to get out of here right now. 35 00:01:23,883 --> 00:01:25,233 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:25,234 --> 00:01:28,834 It was like endless darkness. 37 00:01:47,024 --> 00:01:49,593 Steve: Amy and I conduct our investigations separately. 38 00:01:49,594 --> 00:01:51,719 I dig into the history of the location, 39 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,789 and interview witnesses about their paranormal experiences. 40 00:01:55,790 --> 00:01:58,203 While Amy deals directly with the dead. 41 00:01:58,204 --> 00:02:00,373 I'm in the small town of Radford, Virginia. 42 00:02:00,374 --> 00:02:02,308 It's about an hour outside of Roanoke. 43 00:02:02,309 --> 00:02:05,444 Amy and I were called in by this woman named Marcelle. 44 00:02:05,445 --> 00:02:08,260 She saved a huge historical building from the wrecking ball. 45 00:02:08,261 --> 00:02:12,217 But she says ever since, her life's been nothing but a living hell. 46 00:02:12,218 --> 00:02:16,658 She says Amy and I are her last chance. 47 00:02:22,027 --> 00:02:26,258 Matthew: Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 48 00:02:26,259 --> 00:02:28,072 Even though this building seems abandoned, 49 00:02:28,073 --> 00:02:33,973 I still have to cover or remove anything that could influence her findings. 50 00:02:34,837 --> 00:02:40,737 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 51 00:02:50,951 --> 00:02:53,554 [Inhales deeply] 52 00:02:53,555 --> 00:02:56,557 There are a lot of people here... 53 00:02:56,558 --> 00:02:59,318 Layers of people. 54 00:02:59,757 --> 00:03:01,561 There's about four women. 55 00:03:01,562 --> 00:03:05,359 They don't want to be here anymore, they want to leave, and... 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,760 They can't. 57 00:03:12,502 --> 00:03:16,882 So, they're all up there, these people. 58 00:03:18,207 --> 00:03:20,209 It's very physical. 59 00:03:20,210 --> 00:03:22,970 I can't breathe. 60 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,386 Marcelle, you sounded really upset on the phone about what's happening here... 61 00:03:35,387 --> 00:03:36,622 What's going on? 62 00:03:36,623 --> 00:03:39,884 We've had people who have seen apparitions in the building. 63 00:03:39,885 --> 00:03:44,505 We have volunteers who have been picked up and tossed... 64 00:03:44,506 --> 00:03:45,885 Hair pulled. 65 00:03:45,886 --> 00:03:50,010 Visitors come in that have left with scratch marks on them. 66 00:03:50,011 --> 00:03:53,626 And seems that the activity has become more and more. 67 00:03:53,627 --> 00:03:56,141 So, with a list like that of things that are happening here, 68 00:03:56,142 --> 00:03:57,161 why would you stay here? 69 00:03:57,162 --> 00:04:00,246 For the love of the building. There's just something about it. 70 00:04:00,247 --> 00:04:03,356 Well, Marcelle, I've got to say, this is probably one of the biggest buildings 71 00:04:03,357 --> 00:04:05,195 we've ever investigated, how big is it? 72 00:04:05,196 --> 00:04:07,017 It's over 68,000 square feet. 73 00:04:07,018 --> 00:04:08,418 Wow. Okay. 74 00:04:08,419 --> 00:04:10,853 What's the story as far as history goes? What do you know? 75 00:04:10,854 --> 00:04:14,847 In the early 1900s, it became a Sanatorium, 76 00:04:14,848 --> 00:04:18,593 and it stayed a Sanatorium until the 1980s. 77 00:04:18,594 --> 00:04:21,695 We'll, you know, looking around, this is definitely a work in progress. 78 00:04:21,696 --> 00:04:23,396 What are your plans for it? 79 00:04:23,397 --> 00:04:28,000 We would love to restore the building and turn it into a museum... 80 00:04:28,001 --> 00:04:30,334 With history about the Sanatorium. 81 00:04:30,335 --> 00:04:32,904 And we'd also like to put a research library in. 82 00:04:32,905 --> 00:04:36,174 Do you do anything with it now? Is it just, basically, you're in the repair stage? 83 00:04:36,175 --> 00:04:39,578 In order to pay for the repairs, we've had some conferences here. 84 00:04:39,579 --> 00:04:41,713 We've had a wedding here recently. 85 00:04:41,714 --> 00:04:43,556 We're doing some parties. 86 00:04:43,557 --> 00:04:47,019 Okay. What are you hoping we can do for you with this investigation? 87 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:50,022 I'm hoping you can help us to find a solution. 88 00:04:50,023 --> 00:04:54,004 It's not only a passion in my heart, we're run by volunteers, 89 00:04:54,005 --> 00:04:59,593 and we don't want the people coming in to be harmed or injured. 90 00:04:59,594 --> 00:05:01,514 Okay. 91 00:05:04,504 --> 00:05:06,964 [Door creaks] 92 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:14,881 Living people are not supposed to be here. 93 00:05:14,882 --> 00:05:20,782 Dead people push themselves up against the walls to get out of their way. 94 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:22,722 They don't want to be bothered. 95 00:05:22,723 --> 00:05:26,263 They don't like the living. 96 00:05:29,061 --> 00:05:30,729 [Door creaks] 97 00:05:30,730 --> 00:05:33,924 They're just pissed off and exhausted. 98 00:05:33,925 --> 00:05:37,645 And they feel so, like, tired. 99 00:05:45,370 --> 00:05:47,239 What made you bring me down here? 100 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,208 This is one of the rooms where I had one of my first experiences. 101 00:05:51,209 --> 00:05:53,510 One of our volunteers had... 102 00:05:53,511 --> 00:05:56,947 It was like... something jumped into her. 103 00:05:56,948 --> 00:05:59,416 Okay, so, take me through what happened. 104 00:05:59,417 --> 00:06:01,656 She became, like, in a trance. 105 00:06:01,657 --> 00:06:05,340 When she was talking, her words were all jumbled and garbled, 106 00:06:05,341 --> 00:06:07,491 and just was not making sense at all. 107 00:06:07,492 --> 00:06:09,159 Okay, so, how did you get her out of it? 108 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,530 We pulled out Bible scriptures and read Bible to her. 109 00:06:13,531 --> 00:06:16,934 Okay, now, did she come out of it eventually? 110 00:06:16,935 --> 00:06:19,818 Yes. It took a little over an hour, but she did. 111 00:06:19,819 --> 00:06:21,639 - Do you know this girl personally? - I do. 112 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,409 Okay, is she on any medication that would make her demeanor change? 113 00:06:25,410 --> 00:06:27,144 - Nothing like that? - No, not at all. 114 00:06:27,145 --> 00:06:28,512 Anything else down here? 115 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:30,114 A woman screamed at me. 116 00:06:30,115 --> 00:06:32,015 Kind of like I'd startled her. 117 00:06:32,016 --> 00:06:34,351 You sure it wasn't somebody playing games in here? 118 00:06:34,352 --> 00:06:35,200 There's no way. 119 00:06:35,201 --> 00:06:37,525 And you weren't open for any kind of business or anything? 120 00:06:37,526 --> 00:06:40,286 No, we were not. 121 00:06:43,694 --> 00:06:47,264 There's, like, a woman running up to me, screaming. 122 00:06:47,265 --> 00:06:49,199 She's freaking out. 123 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,260 She just says that... 124 00:06:52,986 --> 00:06:54,938 It's time to go. 125 00:06:54,939 --> 00:06:56,340 And she's panicked. 126 00:06:56,341 --> 00:06:58,709 A living person would feel this... 127 00:06:58,710 --> 00:07:01,530 This, like, panic. 128 00:07:02,180 --> 00:07:04,019 You feel like... 129 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:08,334 Something really bad is going to happen. 130 00:07:08,335 --> 00:07:12,235 You feel like you need to leave. 131 00:07:19,691 --> 00:07:21,865 Steve: I didn't expect to see a bowling alley in here. 132 00:07:21,866 --> 00:07:25,168 Was this used by the patients or was this for the people that worked here? 133 00:07:25,169 --> 00:07:28,938 Primarily, it was used as reward for good behavior from the patients. 134 00:07:28,939 --> 00:07:30,751 They were allowed to come down here and bowl. 135 00:07:30,752 --> 00:07:32,617 All right. So, why'd you bring me down here? 136 00:07:32,618 --> 00:07:37,133 Well, I had my first paranormal experience in here. 137 00:07:37,134 --> 00:07:38,615 Okay, what happened? 138 00:07:38,616 --> 00:07:41,825 I had this large, white mist come through the door behind you, 139 00:07:41,826 --> 00:07:44,393 and go down the bowling alley... 140 00:07:44,394 --> 00:07:46,689 And then make a hard right turn and go through the wall. 141 00:07:46,690 --> 00:07:48,725 What was odd... is the temperature dropped. 142 00:07:48,726 --> 00:07:50,493 Okay, anything else? 143 00:07:50,494 --> 00:07:54,364 My most horrifying experience happened just next to the file room. 144 00:07:54,365 --> 00:07:59,335 I got very dizzy, short of breath, went to the emergency medical area. 145 00:07:59,336 --> 00:08:01,236 Come to find out, it was my pacemaker. 146 00:08:01,237 --> 00:08:04,923 It went haywire and was beating at 143 beats a minute. 147 00:08:04,924 --> 00:08:05,814 Wow. 148 00:08:05,815 --> 00:08:08,578 And my blood pressure was 164 over 112. 149 00:08:08,579 --> 00:08:12,631 Now, Don, did the doctors ever come up with an explanation as to what happened? 150 00:08:12,632 --> 00:08:14,680 No, they couldn't even tell me one thing. 151 00:08:14,681 --> 00:08:19,661 There was nothing to show what happened at all. 152 00:08:23,793 --> 00:08:26,526 Matthew: Do you think people could live here? 153 00:08:26,527 --> 00:08:27,838 No. 154 00:08:27,839 --> 00:08:30,959 I wouldn't live here. 155 00:08:30,976 --> 00:08:33,514 - I don't think it's healthy. - What would happen? 156 00:08:33,515 --> 00:08:37,475 I think that they would get sick. 157 00:08:38,175 --> 00:08:40,677 Just let the dead have it. 158 00:08:40,678 --> 00:08:44,808 I just don't think living people should be here. 159 00:08:44,809 --> 00:08:48,589 It's probably not a good idea. 160 00:08:53,712 --> 00:08:55,932 [Whispers] 161 00:09:08,901 --> 00:09:11,036 So, Chuck, I was talking to Marcelle. 162 00:09:11,037 --> 00:09:13,405 - You're the head of Security here? - Yes, Sir. 163 00:09:13,406 --> 00:09:15,407 You're probably law enforcement, I assume? 164 00:09:15,408 --> 00:09:18,276 - I'm a retired deputy Sheriff. - Okay. 165 00:09:18,277 --> 00:09:20,598 Have you ever had any experiences yourself? 166 00:09:20,599 --> 00:09:23,615 Oh, yes, Sir, I had one right here. 167 00:09:23,616 --> 00:09:29,321 Standing on this lower step one night, I felt myself levitate. 168 00:09:29,322 --> 00:09:34,293 It was like I just became weightless and started coming up... 169 00:09:34,294 --> 00:09:36,485 And thrown... 170 00:09:36,486 --> 00:09:39,546 Over to this doorway. 171 00:09:39,695 --> 00:09:42,795 I could just feel like something gripped me, okay? 172 00:09:42,796 --> 00:09:43,665 Okay. 173 00:09:43,666 --> 00:09:49,566 And had a hold of me to the point that I had no control over my body. 174 00:09:50,253 --> 00:09:52,866 I've got to tell you, Chuck, if you weren't prior law enforcement, 175 00:09:52,867 --> 00:09:55,482 that's not a story I would probably believe right away. 176 00:09:55,483 --> 00:09:59,563 Well, I can totally understand that. 177 00:10:03,757 --> 00:10:07,650 Amy: They don't really want us to be back here. 178 00:10:07,651 --> 00:10:10,891 Because this is their... 179 00:10:11,665 --> 00:10:14,005 Quiet area. 180 00:10:18,438 --> 00:10:20,200 I see... 181 00:10:20,201 --> 00:10:23,861 This man, and he's getting... 182 00:10:24,029 --> 00:10:26,439 A little frustrated. 183 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,321 He's like their protector for the dead here. 184 00:10:30,322 --> 00:10:36,222 And I think he's trying to set up, like, a safe zone, or something, for them. 185 00:10:39,798 --> 00:10:43,292 He says he's going to make me sick. 186 00:10:43,293 --> 00:10:46,173 If I don't leave. 187 00:10:46,872 --> 00:10:49,874 Now, did anything else like that ever happen to you? 188 00:10:49,875 --> 00:10:51,760 Yes, Sir. 189 00:10:51,761 --> 00:10:54,497 I left our gift shop area. 190 00:10:54,498 --> 00:10:58,634 There's some steps that will bring you up to this first level. 191 00:10:58,635 --> 00:11:02,595 As I got about the sixth stair... 192 00:11:02,745 --> 00:11:05,154 I could see something standing there. 193 00:11:05,155 --> 00:11:07,857 I could see, like, the chest of it. 194 00:11:07,858 --> 00:11:08,782 Okay. 195 00:11:08,783 --> 00:11:12,870 You can see the muscles just rippling through there. 196 00:11:12,871 --> 00:11:17,551 As soon as I saw that, I was picked up... 197 00:11:17,572 --> 00:11:20,324 And not thrown straight back. 198 00:11:20,325 --> 00:11:24,705 But I was thrown over, like, the rails. 199 00:11:24,873 --> 00:11:28,098 Whatever it was had to be strong. 200 00:11:28,099 --> 00:11:31,139 Okay, did you get hurt? I mean, that's a big fall. 201 00:11:31,140 --> 00:11:33,590 It just really shook me up. 202 00:11:33,591 --> 00:11:35,700 Felt like a bear got a hold of me. 203 00:11:35,701 --> 00:11:37,905 - Okay. - Just that much strength. 204 00:11:37,906 --> 00:11:40,112 How do you wrap your head around what's going on here? 205 00:11:40,113 --> 00:11:42,476 I couldn't even fathom what this thing is. 206 00:11:42,477 --> 00:11:44,397 Okay. 207 00:11:47,013 --> 00:11:49,925 I don't even know what that guy's capable of. 208 00:11:49,926 --> 00:11:54,417 But I think he's pretty capable of quite a bit. 209 00:11:54,418 --> 00:11:56,289 Did you see him at all? 210 00:11:56,290 --> 00:11:58,218 He does project himself. 211 00:11:58,219 --> 00:12:01,099 He is white, tall. 212 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:06,810 And feels very young. But he's not, he's very old. 213 00:12:08,803 --> 00:12:11,432 And he's not happy. 214 00:12:11,433 --> 00:12:16,113 He doesn't not want me to talk about him. 215 00:12:23,151 --> 00:12:25,353 So, Chuck, why'd you bring me down here? 216 00:12:25,354 --> 00:12:31,254 When I come in this room, I have seen one face on several occasions. 217 00:12:31,442 --> 00:12:32,760 Describe it to me. 218 00:12:32,761 --> 00:12:36,231 - His face is very round. - Okay. 219 00:12:36,232 --> 00:12:38,833 I'd say that he would have been a big man. 220 00:12:38,834 --> 00:12:41,104 Okay, does it looks like he 221 00:12:41,105 --> 00:12:43,904 knows you're looking at him or like he's looking at anybody else? 222 00:12:43,905 --> 00:12:46,844 Oh, he definitely knows you're looking at him. 223 00:12:46,845 --> 00:12:48,429 Anything else happen? 224 00:12:48,430 --> 00:12:51,733 One lady during an investigation. 225 00:12:51,734 --> 00:12:54,869 She was hit between the breastbone. 226 00:12:54,870 --> 00:12:58,543 She was hit so hard that it left a bruise, 227 00:12:58,544 --> 00:13:01,642 and they told us the bruise was there for almost two weeks. 228 00:13:01,643 --> 00:13:05,220 Okay, so, when you say an investigation, we talking about, like, a paranormal group? 229 00:13:05,221 --> 00:13:06,644 Paranormal group, Sir. 230 00:13:06,645 --> 00:13:09,282 Any other thing, physical, happen here? 231 00:13:09,283 --> 00:13:12,587 Women have been touched inappropriately. 232 00:13:12,588 --> 00:13:17,508 They find, usually, the woman who has the weakest emotions. 233 00:13:17,509 --> 00:13:18,396 Okay. 234 00:13:18,397 --> 00:13:22,950 And they just start there and just drain them. 235 00:13:22,951 --> 00:13:28,851 And for that reason, we don't allow any women in this room by themselves. 236 00:13:28,975 --> 00:13:31,910 Whatever's in here has just... 237 00:13:31,911 --> 00:13:35,751 Got something out for the women. 238 00:13:36,815 --> 00:13:42,715 So, now I'm seeing there's this new guy, who tells me to call him Uncle. 239 00:13:43,063 --> 00:13:44,983 He... 240 00:13:45,046 --> 00:13:46,892 Likes it down here. 241 00:13:46,893 --> 00:13:48,525 He's a big guy. 242 00:13:48,526 --> 00:13:50,270 He's pervy. 243 00:13:50,271 --> 00:13:53,755 He likes to touch women's hair. 244 00:13:53,756 --> 00:13:59,656 I suspect, like, it doesn't just stop with the hair, you know what I mean? 245 00:14:02,899 --> 00:14:06,079 And there are people... 246 00:14:06,122 --> 00:14:08,582 Maybe four... 247 00:14:09,205 --> 00:14:12,445 That are banging inside. 248 00:14:12,565 --> 00:14:15,445 And they want out. 249 00:14:15,577 --> 00:14:19,859 This dude... the Uncle dude trapped all their asses in there. 250 00:14:19,860 --> 00:14:22,783 It has something to do with money, like, 251 00:14:22,784 --> 00:14:26,821 if he keeps them in there, he'll get more money. 252 00:14:26,822 --> 00:14:30,602 He's flooded this place with... 253 00:14:31,026 --> 00:14:33,606 Just nastiness. 254 00:14:41,349 --> 00:14:43,569 [Whispers] 255 00:14:50,654 --> 00:14:53,590 Marcelle told me that St. Albans used to be a Sanatorium. 256 00:14:53,591 --> 00:14:56,960 Now, that seemed like a pretty good place to start my investigation. 257 00:14:56,961 --> 00:14:59,526 So I reached out to a local psychiatrist who tells me 258 00:14:59,527 --> 00:15:05,287 that a lot of sick people lived and died on the property. 259 00:15:09,707 --> 00:15:11,669 Steve: So, the current owner of the property I'm 260 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:14,412 investigating told me that it had been a Sanatorium. 261 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:16,514 - Is that correct? - That is correct. 262 00:15:16,515 --> 00:15:21,784 It actually started out in the early 1900s as St. Albans school for boys. 263 00:15:21,785 --> 00:15:22,612 Okay. 264 00:15:22,613 --> 00:15:28,513 That closed in 1911, and Dr. John C. King, with his own funds... 265 00:15:28,700 --> 00:15:31,702 Bought the facility and opened it up, then, as a Sanatorium, 266 00:15:31,703 --> 00:15:36,332 or a freestanding private psychiatric hospital. 267 00:15:36,333 --> 00:15:38,801 What kind of patients would have been there? 268 00:15:38,802 --> 00:15:43,419 Anyone from people that might have just exhaustion from overwork, 269 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:46,299 all the way through some of our severe psychiatric illness 270 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:50,500 such as Schizophrenia, manic psychosis. 271 00:15:55,786 --> 00:15:58,726 So many different... 272 00:15:59,282 --> 00:16:01,322 People. 273 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,831 - What do you mean? - I'm seeing, like, people dressed... 274 00:16:06,832 --> 00:16:08,611 In suits and [Bleep]. 275 00:16:08,612 --> 00:16:10,195 Like, professional people. 276 00:16:10,196 --> 00:16:15,017 Some guy is saying something, like, about emotional trauma. 277 00:16:15,018 --> 00:16:18,354 He's like, I suffered emotional trauma. 278 00:16:18,355 --> 00:16:21,295 He's very dramatic. 279 00:16:22,925 --> 00:16:26,595 Walking from room to room, I keep seeing all of these different dead people. 280 00:16:26,596 --> 00:16:31,034 Some are depressed, some are angry, and they're all trying to speak to me. 281 00:16:31,035 --> 00:16:34,738 There's so much commotion and movement. 282 00:16:34,739 --> 00:16:38,519 They're banging on the walls... 283 00:16:39,176 --> 00:16:44,516 Wanting to leave, wanting to leave, wanting to leave. 284 00:16:48,850 --> 00:16:51,730 There's some, like, little old lady, and she's like... 285 00:16:51,731 --> 00:16:55,719 Oh, you know, it's a processing plant. 286 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,020 They process you. 287 00:16:58,021 --> 00:17:01,266 And then the guy says... 288 00:17:01,267 --> 00:17:06,427 Oh, don't talk to them, they're [Bleep] lunatics. 289 00:17:06,992 --> 00:17:09,679 So, with these types of patients there, 290 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,428 what kind of treatments would they have had? 291 00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:14,427 It could have been anything from cold, wet wraps, all the way 292 00:17:14,428 --> 00:17:16,941 to things more evocative and potentially more powerful as well. 293 00:17:16,942 --> 00:17:20,853 Such as psychosurgery including lobotomies, Insulin coma therapy, 294 00:17:20,854 --> 00:17:22,870 electroconvulsive therapy. 295 00:17:22,871 --> 00:17:25,291 Now, is that the same as electroshock therapy? 296 00:17:25,292 --> 00:17:26,443 Yes. 297 00:17:26,444 --> 00:17:28,769 So many were done at St. Albans during a stretch of time, 298 00:17:28,770 --> 00:17:33,017 they actually had one machine that they called Mighty Mouse. 299 00:17:33,018 --> 00:17:35,547 And they would just wheel it from room to room. 300 00:17:35,548 --> 00:17:40,466 It was kind of brutal to have done because no general anesthesia was offered. 301 00:17:40,467 --> 00:17:43,544 And so you would be fully awake when you were administered an 302 00:17:43,545 --> 00:17:48,623 electrical current that would induce a fairly significant seizure. 303 00:17:48,624 --> 00:17:50,557 I mean, it had to be pretty painful. 304 00:17:50,558 --> 00:17:52,632 I actually have a film I'd like to show you 305 00:17:52,633 --> 00:17:57,553 to give you an idea of just how it was done. 306 00:17:59,263 --> 00:18:00,997 [Projector whirring] 307 00:18:00,998 --> 00:18:03,218 Oh, geez. 308 00:18:12,129 --> 00:18:15,009 My feet, my hands. 309 00:18:15,175 --> 00:18:18,143 It's like burning. I feel like I'm burning. 310 00:18:18,144 --> 00:18:20,344 I'm, like, shaking. 311 00:18:20,345 --> 00:18:22,565 It hurts. 312 00:18:23,379 --> 00:18:24,891 There is a female. 313 00:18:24,892 --> 00:18:27,683 She's scared. Very, very, very frightened. 314 00:18:27,684 --> 00:18:32,484 She's shaking. She feels like she's burning. 315 00:18:33,487 --> 00:18:36,590 Now, Doctor, this place is 68,000 square feet. 316 00:18:36,591 --> 00:18:39,556 So, how many patients would have been in there? 317 00:18:39,557 --> 00:18:41,009 Thousands over the years. 318 00:18:41,010 --> 00:18:42,938 Now, a place that big, with that many patients, 319 00:18:42,939 --> 00:18:45,065 I got to assume there had to be a lot of deaths there. 320 00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:48,520 You know, I think so, too. I was able to find 10, for sure. 321 00:18:48,521 --> 00:18:51,948 But I think that would be a gross underrepresentation 322 00:18:51,949 --> 00:18:55,903 of the deaths that likely would have happened. 323 00:18:55,904 --> 00:18:58,072 Now, did they have a Morgue there? 324 00:18:58,073 --> 00:18:59,340 - Yes. - Really? 325 00:18:59,341 --> 00:19:02,106 So, Doctor, I got to assume there had to be a lot more deaths there, 326 00:19:02,107 --> 00:19:03,966 because you don't build a Morgue for 10 people. 327 00:19:03,967 --> 00:19:09,067 - That's right, you would not. Absolutely. - Okay. 328 00:19:13,967 --> 00:19:17,372 I see a group of people sleeping on the floor here. 329 00:19:17,373 --> 00:19:21,753 It's just, like, a big heap of people. 330 00:19:22,924 --> 00:19:24,759 They're kind of covered up. 331 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,700 Like, it's a mess. 332 00:19:33,530 --> 00:19:35,750 [Whispers] 333 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,231 Dr. Scheiderer told me that St. Albans was an all-boys school. 334 00:19:47,232 --> 00:19:51,682 Now, it didn't sound like much to me until I called a local historian to check it out. 335 00:19:51,683 --> 00:19:53,999 He told me that the story of the school's founder 336 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,140 will definitely help my investigation. 337 00:20:04,929 --> 00:20:08,433 The school was actually started by Professor George Miles. 338 00:20:08,434 --> 00:20:12,509 He was an educator, a well-connected businessman. 339 00:20:12,510 --> 00:20:16,183 And he was also a wealthy individual... he had married into a wealthy family. 340 00:20:16,184 --> 00:20:19,037 Okay, so, what purpose did he open it for? 341 00:20:19,038 --> 00:20:21,473 It was a preparatory school for boys. 342 00:20:21,474 --> 00:20:26,846 Here's actually an advertisement from 1892 when he opened the school. 343 00:20:26,847 --> 00:20:30,788 The idea was to train these young men to be good gentlemen, 344 00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:34,321 and also to prepare them for a track to go to university. 345 00:20:34,322 --> 00:20:36,556 Okay, now, what kind of guy was he? 346 00:20:36,557 --> 00:20:38,258 That depends on who you ask. 347 00:20:38,259 --> 00:20:42,308 He had this reputation of being respectable and dedicated to his work. 348 00:20:42,309 --> 00:20:45,900 But he was also scheming and abrasive. 349 00:20:45,901 --> 00:20:47,000 Really? 350 00:20:47,001 --> 00:20:50,805 Now, what happened to the school, because I understand it became a Sanatorium? 351 00:20:50,806 --> 00:20:55,638 Yeah, his business interests took him away from the school in 1902. 352 00:20:55,639 --> 00:20:59,449 - And it kind of floundered without him. - Okay. 353 00:20:59,450 --> 00:21:01,953 And in 1904, they shut it down. 354 00:21:01,954 --> 00:21:04,685 All right. So, what winds up happening to him? 355 00:21:04,686 --> 00:21:08,658 Professor Miles actually met a pretty tragic end. 356 00:21:08,659 --> 00:21:12,139 Early in 1905, he admitted himself into a hospital, 357 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:14,996 and they found that he had liver cancer. 358 00:21:14,997 --> 00:21:18,305 And within two months, he passed away. 359 00:21:18,306 --> 00:21:22,446 - He was only 42 years old. - Okay. 360 00:21:23,904 --> 00:21:27,575 I'm seeing the man who calls himself Uncle. 361 00:21:27,576 --> 00:21:31,969 And he was in charge... very, very, wealthy. 362 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:34,986 And he was the start... 363 00:21:34,987 --> 00:21:37,147 Of this. 364 00:21:40,322 --> 00:21:44,642 And at first, there was good intention. 365 00:21:45,578 --> 00:21:48,698 And then it went bad. 366 00:21:49,431 --> 00:21:51,366 Matthew: Can you describe him? 367 00:21:51,367 --> 00:21:54,709 He's probably in his 40s. 368 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:58,054 He's bald and he's pale. 369 00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,455 He's dying. 370 00:22:00,476 --> 00:22:03,176 He feels guilty. 371 00:22:08,049 --> 00:22:11,711 Steve: Now that I know my client's property used to be a prep school and a Sanatorium, 372 00:22:11,712 --> 00:22:14,187 I need to see if anything else went down there. 373 00:22:14,188 --> 00:22:17,081 So I hit the books at the local library. 374 00:22:17,082 --> 00:22:22,802 Digging through old records, I discovered the murder of a girl name Gina Hall. 375 00:22:22,803 --> 00:22:28,563 Turns out, her car was last seen near Marcelle's property. 376 00:22:28,909 --> 00:22:31,992 So, I'm headed over to meet with a local police Lieutenant. 377 00:22:31,993 --> 00:22:34,088 Who says that the connection between that case 378 00:22:34,089 --> 00:22:38,709 and St. Albans runs much deeper than that. 379 00:22:44,391 --> 00:22:47,914 Steve: Lieutenant, I came across an article talking about a homicide that happened 380 00:22:47,915 --> 00:22:50,698 that has a connection to the property I'm investigating. 381 00:22:50,699 --> 00:22:52,156 What can you tell me about it? 382 00:22:52,157 --> 00:22:57,557 On June 28, 1980, Gina Renee Hall, age 18 years old. 383 00:22:57,625 --> 00:23:00,388 Wanted to go dancing at a club in Blacksburg, 384 00:23:00,389 --> 00:23:04,044 and met a guy named Stephen Epperly, age 28. 385 00:23:04,045 --> 00:23:06,396 And he ended up talking her into going back to a 386 00:23:06,397 --> 00:23:09,750 lake house that his friend was taking care of. 387 00:23:09,751 --> 00:23:13,170 Okay. What did the original investigators theorize happened? 388 00:23:13,171 --> 00:23:19,071 That Epperly made some advances toward her, and she rejected those advances. 389 00:23:29,721 --> 00:23:33,925 There was something with a female in here. 390 00:23:33,926 --> 00:23:37,729 And there's, like, an older man. 391 00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:41,630 She's kind of being messed with. 392 00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:46,537 I mean, I think he was trying to kiss her or something, and then... 393 00:23:46,538 --> 00:23:48,998 It went bad. 394 00:23:51,009 --> 00:23:55,447 We believe that he just went totally ballistic and killed her. 395 00:23:55,448 --> 00:23:59,077 And put her body in the trunk of her own car. 396 00:23:59,078 --> 00:24:01,615 Drove her somewhere, disposed of the body, 397 00:24:01,616 --> 00:24:06,043 and parked the car just down from where you're investigating with the trunk open. 398 00:24:06,044 --> 00:24:07,324 Wow. 399 00:24:07,325 --> 00:24:10,520 What do we know about this guy himself? I mean, what's his background? 400 00:24:10,521 --> 00:24:16,421 Epperly was a charmer to the ladies thought very highly of himself. 401 00:24:17,668 --> 00:24:20,248 He was known to have a very violent temper. 402 00:24:20,249 --> 00:24:23,622 And was actually charged previously, before this happened, 403 00:24:23,623 --> 00:24:25,779 with a couple rapes in the community. 404 00:24:25,780 --> 00:24:27,123 You're kidding. 405 00:24:27,124 --> 00:24:30,480 So, he had all the characteristics of a guy that would do something like this. 406 00:24:30,481 --> 00:24:32,341 Yes. 407 00:24:34,385 --> 00:24:39,725 First it was, like, teasing, then it wasn't teasing. 408 00:24:43,094 --> 00:24:46,196 He got... he got mad real quick. 409 00:24:46,197 --> 00:24:49,617 And he, like, punches her. 410 00:24:51,632 --> 00:24:54,212 She's being... 411 00:24:54,371 --> 00:24:57,191 Kind of assaulted. 412 00:25:00,910 --> 00:25:03,947 He get's life in prison, first-degree murder. 413 00:25:03,948 --> 00:25:06,326 Now, what about the body? Was it ever recovered? 414 00:25:06,327 --> 00:25:08,967 - No. - [Sighs] 415 00:25:09,306 --> 00:25:13,431 First case in Virginia that someone was convicted without ever finding the body. 416 00:25:13,432 --> 00:25:16,219 Wow. Where do you think the body might be? 417 00:25:16,220 --> 00:25:18,634 Some believe that it may be at the lake. 418 00:25:18,635 --> 00:25:24,334 And some people believe that she's buried on the property you're investigating. 419 00:25:24,335 --> 00:25:27,884 The rumor was that he worked at St. Albans for a little while. 420 00:25:27,885 --> 00:25:29,925 Really? 421 00:25:31,566 --> 00:25:33,944 There's, uh... 422 00:25:33,945 --> 00:25:36,075 Something really, really wrong. 423 00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:37,996 Um... 424 00:25:42,367 --> 00:25:46,327 I'm not alone inside of my body. 425 00:25:47,790 --> 00:25:51,320 As I'm seeing this brutal attack, I feel a woman jump me. 426 00:25:51,321 --> 00:25:53,201 She's entered my body. 427 00:25:53,202 --> 00:25:54,943 Whoa. 428 00:25:54,944 --> 00:25:58,259 Mm. That does not feel good. [Bleep]! 429 00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:02,830 And she's not the only one here who can do this to living people. 430 00:26:02,831 --> 00:26:06,034 Hm-mnh, no. Hm-mnh. Hm-mnh, no. 431 00:26:06,035 --> 00:26:10,839 For one of the few times in my life, I can't finish a walk. 432 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:16,631 This woman refuses to leave my body, and I fear for my own safety. 433 00:26:16,632 --> 00:26:17,779 Matthew: Are you okay? 434 00:26:17,780 --> 00:26:21,380 No. She won't [Bleep] leave. 435 00:26:21,883 --> 00:26:24,523 [Woman laughing] 436 00:26:31,265 --> 00:26:33,485 [Whispers] 437 00:26:48,212 --> 00:26:50,958 Steve: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations. 438 00:26:50,959 --> 00:26:55,383 We're ready to reveal our findings to each other, and our clients, for the first time. 439 00:26:55,384 --> 00:26:57,452 Amy, I'd like you to meet Marcelle. 440 00:26:57,453 --> 00:27:00,888 Few years back, she saved this building from a wrecking ball. 441 00:27:00,889 --> 00:27:03,424 Her dream is actually to turn this place into a museum. 442 00:27:03,425 --> 00:27:04,726 Hmm. 443 00:27:04,727 --> 00:27:07,106 The problem is the activity here is so bad, 444 00:27:07,107 --> 00:27:10,398 she's afraid for any guests or any volunteers that work here. 445 00:27:10,399 --> 00:27:13,067 Now, speaking of volunteers, this is Chuck. 446 00:27:13,068 --> 00:27:17,305 He's retired Police Officer. He runs the Security here. 447 00:27:17,306 --> 00:27:21,242 He's been through some stuff I've never even heard before. 448 00:27:21,243 --> 00:27:23,449 Marcelle wants to know if there's any way that she can 449 00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:26,894 safely turn this place into a museum. 450 00:27:26,895 --> 00:27:29,576 So, now that Amy understands why we're here, 451 00:27:29,577 --> 00:27:33,253 I'm going to ask her to tell us about her walk. 452 00:27:33,254 --> 00:27:35,112 I... 453 00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:38,378 Got here, and it was very confusing. 454 00:27:38,379 --> 00:27:44,259 And I got just layers and layers and layers of dead people. 455 00:27:44,732 --> 00:27:49,271 I got that a lot of the dead are extremely angry. 456 00:27:49,272 --> 00:27:55,172 Pissed off, and exhausted, and that a lot of them do not care for the living. 457 00:27:55,643 --> 00:27:58,779 There was one location that I went to upstairs. 458 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:03,350 The dead said that it was their quiet area and they didn't want me there. 459 00:28:03,351 --> 00:28:06,122 The person that I encountered... 460 00:28:06,123 --> 00:28:09,712 He basically was this group of people's leader. 461 00:28:09,713 --> 00:28:14,393 And he is trying to enforce a safety zone. 462 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:17,084 For some of the dead here. 463 00:28:17,085 --> 00:28:19,521 He was kind of white-ish and tall, 464 00:28:19,522 --> 00:28:24,704 and he was projecting himself as being younger than he actually is. 465 00:28:24,705 --> 00:28:28,340 And he told me, you better leave or I'm going to hurt you. 466 00:28:28,341 --> 00:28:33,446 He definitely has the capability of doing whatever he wants. 467 00:28:33,447 --> 00:28:38,585 Could that person, that's that advanced, take a man that size and throw him? 468 00:28:38,586 --> 00:28:40,806 Um, yeah. 469 00:28:40,872 --> 00:28:45,148 I was asked to meet someone at the grand staircase. 470 00:28:45,149 --> 00:28:49,169 As I was on about the sixth step. 471 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:52,550 Something grabbed me... 472 00:28:53,567 --> 00:28:56,559 And threw me over... 473 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,805 - The rail. - Whoa. 474 00:28:58,806 --> 00:29:01,327 Describe what you saw. 475 00:29:01,328 --> 00:29:03,683 The chest... huge. 476 00:29:03,684 --> 00:29:07,725 - Like something's on steroids, okay? - Mm hmm, okay. 477 00:29:07,726 --> 00:29:11,083 I can see the muscles, like he's very ripped. 478 00:29:11,084 --> 00:29:13,613 - Mm hmm. - Does that make sense to you? 479 00:29:13,614 --> 00:29:16,254 Yes, absolutely. 480 00:29:19,419 --> 00:29:21,494 What else did you see on your walk? 481 00:29:21,495 --> 00:29:23,329 I met a lot of strange people. 482 00:29:23,330 --> 00:29:25,525 It was kind of interesting, because at one point 483 00:29:25,526 --> 00:29:27,882 I was seeing a lot of professional people. 484 00:29:27,883 --> 00:29:30,145 And it was a weird contrast. 485 00:29:30,146 --> 00:29:33,821 Then I ran into this other guy who was just, like, so out of it and so lost. 486 00:29:33,822 --> 00:29:37,144 They were just bashing, banging on all of the walls. 487 00:29:37,145 --> 00:29:41,470 So, then, I saw, like, a bunch of little old people. 488 00:29:41,471 --> 00:29:43,554 And one of the little old ladies said to me, 489 00:29:43,555 --> 00:29:46,196 she's like, yeah, this is just like a processing plant. 490 00:29:46,197 --> 00:29:48,910 And then the guy I was with turned to me and he goes... 491 00:29:48,911 --> 00:29:52,013 Don't listen to them, they're all bunch of lunatics. 492 00:29:52,014 --> 00:29:57,112 This is easy enough to explain to you, you could take your pick on who you ran into. 493 00:29:57,113 --> 00:30:01,624 Because this place operated as a Sanatorium from the early 1900s till 1980. 494 00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:04,905 And it was started by this gentleman right here... 495 00:30:04,906 --> 00:30:07,426 John C. King. 496 00:30:07,945 --> 00:30:11,092 They treated people here from depression to drug abuse, 497 00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:14,181 alcohol abuse, up to full blown Schizophrenia. 498 00:30:14,182 --> 00:30:16,222 Really? 499 00:30:17,114 --> 00:30:21,127 Does it make sense to you about why you ran into all those different... yeah. 500 00:30:21,128 --> 00:30:24,291 Now, that's part of your draw, that this was a Sanatorium, 501 00:30:24,292 --> 00:30:27,334 and you're trying to bring back the whole grandeur of this building. 502 00:30:27,335 --> 00:30:29,163 - What it was at one time. - Yes. 503 00:30:29,164 --> 00:30:32,600 Once you come into the building, you're drawn to it. 504 00:30:32,601 --> 00:30:38,501 You just, you want to restore it. You want to bring it back to its original glory. 505 00:30:39,127 --> 00:30:40,917 So, what else did you see? 506 00:30:40,918 --> 00:30:44,279 I, physically, had a very difficult time. 507 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,082 I felt like my head was being crushed in, I couldn't breathe. 508 00:30:48,083 --> 00:30:51,023 A lot of the people I encountered were also having pain. 509 00:30:51,024 --> 00:30:56,324 There was one young girl that I saw who was having seizures and vomiting. 510 00:30:56,325 --> 00:31:00,928 Then there was a woman that I met downstairs who felt like she was burning. 511 00:31:00,929 --> 00:31:04,829 She was also shaking, and I do think that living 512 00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:07,518 people who spend a lot of time here would... 513 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:12,019 Be prone to having symptoms of illnesses. 514 00:31:12,671 --> 00:31:14,611 Marcelle, this is probably a good time for you to 515 00:31:14,612 --> 00:31:17,470 tell Amy about the incident with your husband Don. 516 00:31:17,471 --> 00:31:19,280 Don has a pacemaker. 517 00:31:19,281 --> 00:31:22,157 It's set to go at 60 beats. 518 00:31:22,158 --> 00:31:26,515 And it was racing into the 130s beats per minutes. 519 00:31:26,516 --> 00:31:28,541 The doctors couldn't explain it. 520 00:31:28,542 --> 00:31:31,993 He has problems with his pacemaker every time he comes in. 521 00:31:31,994 --> 00:31:35,237 Now, you've got to know something about the Sanatorium. 522 00:31:35,238 --> 00:31:39,901 Back in the day, it had some pretty primitive ideas of treatment here. 523 00:31:39,902 --> 00:31:42,202 You mentioned somebody who was shaking, and felt burning, 524 00:31:42,203 --> 00:31:44,839 and all this other stuff, and this was a woman, right? 525 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,095 They had an instrument here called Mighty Mouse, 526 00:31:47,096 --> 00:31:49,901 that they'd wheel from room to room and they did electroshock therapy. 527 00:31:49,902 --> 00:31:50,912 Okay. 528 00:31:50,913 --> 00:31:53,247 Now, do you think that's what that woman was going through? 529 00:31:53,248 --> 00:31:55,001 Yeah, that I think so. 530 00:31:55,002 --> 00:31:59,320 Amy: I'm trained in psychology, so I'm very familiar with electroshock therapy. 531 00:31:59,321 --> 00:32:01,435 And now that I know what this building used to be, 532 00:32:01,436 --> 00:32:05,714 I realize that's what it must feel like. 533 00:32:05,715 --> 00:32:10,596 There's a lot of dead people here who feel trapped. 534 00:32:10,597 --> 00:32:12,787 And they were banging on the windows because they 535 00:32:12,788 --> 00:32:14,733 want to get out, they want help. 536 00:32:14,734 --> 00:32:17,020 I had them sketch that. 537 00:32:17,021 --> 00:32:19,556 They were very pale. 538 00:32:19,557 --> 00:32:22,437 And extremely thin. 539 00:32:22,448 --> 00:32:24,908 Skeleton-ish. 540 00:32:31,667 --> 00:32:34,370 - Is this what you saw? - Mm hmm. 541 00:32:34,371 --> 00:32:38,040 And you wanted to come back in here? 542 00:32:38,041 --> 00:32:41,938 You've got more guts than I do. I wouldn't want to come back in. 543 00:32:41,939 --> 00:32:44,399 Oh, my gosh. 544 00:32:47,211 --> 00:32:50,653 - Sad. - Chuck: That's amazing. Very sad. 545 00:32:50,654 --> 00:32:53,751 Do you think it could have possibly been patients that were here? 546 00:32:53,752 --> 00:32:56,659 Now, I'm thinking yeah, probably. 547 00:32:56,660 --> 00:32:58,880 Very sad. 548 00:32:59,797 --> 00:33:02,932 Now, is there any reason why they're trapped? 549 00:33:02,933 --> 00:33:04,088 Yeah. 550 00:33:04,089 --> 00:33:06,657 So, when I first got here, 551 00:33:06,658 --> 00:33:09,275 there was a male... 552 00:33:09,276 --> 00:33:12,510 Who was having me call him Uncle. 553 00:33:12,511 --> 00:33:16,170 I know he was in charge, he was very powerful, very wealthy. 554 00:33:16,171 --> 00:33:19,650 When he started this, he started it with good intentions. 555 00:33:19,651 --> 00:33:22,716 And he was very odd-looking himself. 556 00:33:22,717 --> 00:33:25,189 He was completely bald. 557 00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:30,254 The other thing with this Uncle was that he was kind of a pervert. 558 00:33:30,255 --> 00:33:34,031 And he really likes to do things inappropriate to women. 559 00:33:34,032 --> 00:33:35,899 Let me ask you a question, does he touch women? 560 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:37,901 - Oh, yes. - Okay. 561 00:33:37,902 --> 00:33:41,572 Well, explain the boiler room to her. 562 00:33:41,573 --> 00:33:45,473 Women who enter, they're drained. 563 00:33:45,544 --> 00:33:50,682 Down to the point that they're just ready to pass out. 564 00:33:50,683 --> 00:33:54,625 And there's inappropriate touching... 565 00:33:54,626 --> 00:33:57,124 In there as well. 566 00:33:57,125 --> 00:34:02,184 And that's the reason we do not allow women by themselves in there. 567 00:34:02,185 --> 00:34:06,270 You know, a lot of things you said reminds me of the guy that 568 00:34:06,271 --> 00:34:11,601 actually built this place in 1892, the original founder of the building. 569 00:34:11,602 --> 00:34:13,431 Now... 570 00:34:13,432 --> 00:34:16,923 This is George Miles now, you mentioned that he started out with good intentions. 571 00:34:16,924 --> 00:34:19,273 He opened this up as a boys school. 572 00:34:19,274 --> 00:34:22,188 And it was basically a preparatory school for... 573 00:34:22,189 --> 00:34:26,805 Um, young men to lead them on to a good path, so to speak. 574 00:34:26,806 --> 00:34:31,297 This guy was well-connected, knew a lot of influential people. 575 00:34:31,298 --> 00:34:35,329 Many people said he was scheming, ambitious, abrasive. 576 00:34:35,330 --> 00:34:36,826 This is the way they described him. 577 00:34:36,827 --> 00:34:38,827 People thought he was a little bit money-hungry. 578 00:34:38,828 --> 00:34:40,042 Oh. 579 00:34:40,043 --> 00:34:45,268 Now, three years after he left the school, he got diagnosed with severe liver cancer. 580 00:34:45,269 --> 00:34:48,103 He was given early forms of chemotherapy 581 00:34:48,104 --> 00:34:50,435 and radiation, and he lost all of his hair. 582 00:34:50,436 --> 00:34:54,756 And he died within a couple of months. 583 00:34:57,580 --> 00:34:59,749 What else did you see? 584 00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:04,812 In the boiler room, when I walked in there, I saw a male and a female. 585 00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:08,057 And it seemed like she was kind of teasing him. 586 00:35:08,058 --> 00:35:12,328 He went in to kiss her. She wasn't going to let it happen. 587 00:35:12,329 --> 00:35:14,630 And then he started hitting her. 588 00:35:14,631 --> 00:35:16,966 And she was screaming and crying. 589 00:35:16,967 --> 00:35:21,552 And I believe there was a rape that followed that. 590 00:35:21,553 --> 00:35:24,543 Do you think the girl that was raped was killed, that you saw? 591 00:35:24,544 --> 00:35:27,664 Mm, yeah, I think so. 592 00:35:29,279 --> 00:35:33,359 Back on June 28, 1980, this girl... 593 00:35:34,224 --> 00:35:37,947 It breaks my heart to even talk about this story. 594 00:35:37,948 --> 00:35:41,271 Her name was Gina Hall. She was 18 years old. 595 00:35:41,272 --> 00:35:45,212 Look at this kid. She's everybody's daughter. 596 00:35:45,213 --> 00:35:47,730 She went to one of the clubs here in town. 597 00:35:47,731 --> 00:35:49,669 She ran into a guy, Stephen Epperly. 598 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:53,470 She went dancing, this guy was a charmer, good looking guy. 599 00:35:53,471 --> 00:35:56,673 He convinces her to drive him to a friend's lake house. 600 00:35:56,674 --> 00:36:00,994 That's the last time she's ever seen. 601 00:36:02,145 --> 00:36:05,189 Here's a picture of him. 602 00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:07,784 The guy in the middle... this is at his trial. 603 00:36:07,785 --> 00:36:10,530 They believe what happened is she went back to the lake house, 604 00:36:10,531 --> 00:36:13,073 he made some sexual advances that she didn't like... 605 00:36:13,074 --> 00:36:15,593 And he killed her. 606 00:36:15,594 --> 00:36:18,194 Probably raped her. 607 00:36:18,195 --> 00:36:22,999 Her car that she drove him in was found literally yards from here. 608 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,335 Her body's never been recovered. 609 00:36:25,336 --> 00:36:27,238 There's two theories as to where she is. 610 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,475 She was either thrown in the water, or she's buried somewhere on this property. 611 00:36:31,476 --> 00:36:33,876 Oh, my God. 612 00:36:35,899 --> 00:36:37,819 Geez. 613 00:36:40,884 --> 00:36:42,919 Pretty impressive walk you already did. 614 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,687 What else did you see? 615 00:36:44,688 --> 00:36:49,825 Towards the end of the walk, when I was in the basement after all that, I got jumped. 616 00:36:49,826 --> 00:36:54,096 What happened has only happened a handful of times as a professional. 617 00:36:54,097 --> 00:36:59,997 I couldn't finish the walk because this woman got inside of me. 618 00:37:01,571 --> 00:37:03,440 And how long did it take you to get rid of her? 619 00:37:03,441 --> 00:37:06,362 Maybe, like, six to eight hours. 620 00:37:06,363 --> 00:37:08,578 Now, we've done over 50 cases together. 621 00:37:08,579 --> 00:37:11,965 This is the first time I'm hearing her not being able to finish a walk. 622 00:37:11,966 --> 00:37:13,597 Yeah. 623 00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:17,087 So, she continued to stay with me. 624 00:37:17,088 --> 00:37:20,557 We left, I was in the car crying hysterically. 625 00:37:20,558 --> 00:37:26,426 What she told me was that there's a lot of dead people here who can do this. 626 00:37:26,427 --> 00:37:31,804 Uh, that they can do it to people who are open or closed... 627 00:37:31,805 --> 00:37:35,806 Who have abilities, don't, or they can follow them. 628 00:37:35,807 --> 00:37:41,105 And they can influence a person to make anything from just simple bad decisions to, 629 00:37:41,106 --> 00:37:45,314 you know, harming themselves or harming somebody else. 630 00:37:45,315 --> 00:37:47,095 Is it possible... 631 00:37:47,096 --> 00:37:50,576 For someone to be jumped... 632 00:37:50,659 --> 00:37:56,233 And not realize it and change their whole demeanor, their whole... 633 00:37:56,234 --> 00:37:59,630 Personality, and change their relationships? 634 00:37:59,631 --> 00:38:01,632 Absolutely. 635 00:38:01,633 --> 00:38:05,353 I think it's changed my life. 636 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:08,604 - You okay? - Yeah. 637 00:38:08,605 --> 00:38:10,525 Yeah. 638 00:38:12,246 --> 00:38:15,687 It's just a tough subject to talk about. 639 00:38:15,688 --> 00:38:18,368 You're talking about you or somebody else? 640 00:38:18,369 --> 00:38:20,170 Someone else. 641 00:38:20,171 --> 00:38:23,552 Speaking with Marcelle, I feel she's holding something back. 642 00:38:23,553 --> 00:38:26,507 And knowing that her husband, Don, refused to come to the reveal. 643 00:38:26,508 --> 00:38:29,795 I started putting together why. 644 00:38:29,796 --> 00:38:33,120 If they have an ailment, are they more susceptible to being jumped? 645 00:38:33,121 --> 00:38:34,949 Yes. 646 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:39,750 I have an idea of who you're talking about. 647 00:38:44,825 --> 00:38:47,945 I need a few minutes. 648 00:38:53,601 --> 00:38:55,701 [Crying] 649 00:39:00,925 --> 00:39:03,145 [Whispers] 650 00:39:09,479 --> 00:39:12,867 Steve: If they have an ailment, are they more susceptible to being jumped? 651 00:39:12,868 --> 00:39:13,882 Yes. 652 00:39:13,883 --> 00:39:18,683 I have an idea of who you're talking about. 653 00:39:23,693 --> 00:39:28,073 I need a few minutes, guys. I'm sorry. 654 00:39:33,403 --> 00:39:35,503 [Crying] 655 00:39:39,689 --> 00:39:44,627 Guys, I want to apologize for becoming so emotional a little while ago. 656 00:39:44,628 --> 00:39:47,230 I don't know how else to explain it. 657 00:39:47,231 --> 00:39:51,395 Since I've become involved in this building, I've seen people's lives 658 00:39:51,396 --> 00:39:55,605 that have kind of changed, relationships that have changed. 659 00:39:55,606 --> 00:40:00,013 And it's caused some problems in my own home. 660 00:40:00,014 --> 00:40:02,909 Nice people became... 661 00:40:02,910 --> 00:40:05,670 Angry or unhappy. 662 00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:11,110 And, hopefully, you can give us some answers. 663 00:40:12,187 --> 00:40:16,162 You've been hit with a lot of disturbing information tonight. 664 00:40:16,163 --> 00:40:18,162 But the biggest question is can you turn this 665 00:40:18,163 --> 00:40:21,669 historic building into a museum and be safe? 666 00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:27,010 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 667 00:40:29,205 --> 00:40:32,422 This cannot become what you want it. 668 00:40:32,423 --> 00:40:35,903 With what's going on here. 669 00:40:37,046 --> 00:40:40,209 It's far too dangerous. 670 00:40:40,210 --> 00:40:43,219 As far as what to do here... 671 00:40:43,220 --> 00:40:48,191 Go into the largest room you have here and do a mass funeral. 672 00:40:48,192 --> 00:40:52,812 Get several different types of holy people. 673 00:40:52,844 --> 00:40:55,825 That way you're hitting as many religions as possible, 674 00:40:55,826 --> 00:40:59,511 so that the people who are dead here 675 00:40:59,512 --> 00:41:02,838 who feel an affinity for that religion, they'll go. 676 00:41:02,839 --> 00:41:07,777 This has to happen three times over a one month period. 677 00:41:07,778 --> 00:41:13,678 One month later, you're going to have to have an exorcism of the location... 678 00:41:13,750 --> 00:41:16,362 The entire location. 679 00:41:16,363 --> 00:41:20,766 Because unfortunately, you do have, now, these nasty people. 680 00:41:20,767 --> 00:41:23,537 They're going to jump people, they've gone bad. 681 00:41:23,538 --> 00:41:26,261 - Will that get everybody out of here? - Yeah. 682 00:41:26,262 --> 00:41:29,022 I'm just amazed. 683 00:41:29,759 --> 00:41:32,267 We knew there were things going on here. 684 00:41:32,268 --> 00:41:34,872 - Yeah. - You've answered a lot of our questions. 685 00:41:34,873 --> 00:41:36,757 Steve: The next question is the obvious one... 686 00:41:36,758 --> 00:41:39,667 Are you going to listen to what Amy says? 687 00:41:39,668 --> 00:41:42,210 Well, we asked her to come in to give us the solution, 688 00:41:42,211 --> 00:41:45,549 so I think we need to follow through on it. 689 00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:48,385 If they don't do it, is it going to get worse here? 690 00:41:48,386 --> 00:41:50,888 Well, I wouldn't come back. 691 00:41:50,889 --> 00:41:54,400 She ain't coming back, you've got problems. I've got news for you. 692 00:41:54,401 --> 00:41:56,767 Amy: With all of the dead inside this location... 693 00:41:56,768 --> 00:41:59,464 Marcelle and Chuck have their work cut out for them. 694 00:41:59,465 --> 00:42:02,409 But I'm confident that if they follow my advice... 695 00:42:02,410 --> 00:42:08,310 They'll be able to keep their guests and employees safe from harm. 696 00:42:09,158 --> 00:42:10,838 _. 697 00:42:15,258 --> 00:42:16,938 _. 698 00:42:16,939 --> 00:42:22,839 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. Www.Addic7ed.Com. 699 00:42:22,889 --> 00:42:27,439 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 57162

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