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I think this girl's being murdered.
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She's terrified.
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There's something here.
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Objects being thrown at people.
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She can't breathe.
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- Scratches up here on my arm.
- That could be a problem.
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[Crying] Oh, my God. What's happening?
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Something terrible's happened to her!
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[Sobs]
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It's really bad in here.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Something is not right.
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I see dead people.
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This person might have
been a serial killer.
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I speak to dead people.
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You get those chills.
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And they speak to me.
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He is darkness. He is evil.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she broke her neck.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective.
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Are you telling me the truth?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I think the Devil is down here.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Who the hell would do this?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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Who's he looking to kill?
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We uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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You need to get out of here right now.
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Or time to get out.
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It was like endless darkness.
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[Wind whistling]
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Steve: Amy and I never communicate
during an investigation.
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I learn about the dead through
interviews and research.
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While Amy speaks directly to them.
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In the end, we meet up and reveal
our findings to each other...
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And our clients for the first time.
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I'm in Waxahachie, Texas, about
20 minutes south of Dallas.
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I'm heading over to meet
with a woman named Shawn,
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who owns a family restaurant in town.
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She says things have
gotten so out of control,
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she's worried about the safety
of her employees and her guests.
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She says Amy and I are her last hope.
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[Bell rings]
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Matthew: I can't hide the
fact that this is a restaurant.
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But I still need to be careful
to remove or cover any pictures,
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signs, or decorations that
could influence Amy's findings.
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In my opening, a Sheriff came up.
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And he pointed to four graves.
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I think he knew some of these guys.
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And said that...
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Those men had...
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Caused a lot of fear at the time.
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[Sniffles]
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I'm getting a really weird smell.
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What a weird smell! What is this?
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Blood, it's blood.
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I'm tasting it, yeah. Yeah, it's blood.
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Ugh.
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So, Shawn, you sounded pretty concerned
on the phone about what's going on here.
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Shawn: Yeah, we are...
we are very concerned.
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My daughter works up
here, she's 16 years old.
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My mother, my husband,
and my dad are up here.
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And we, you know, want
to make sure everything is
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perfectly safe for everyone
that comes through that door.
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Okay. So, give me an idea what kind
of experiences you guys are having.
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Well, we've seen
apparitions, shadow people...
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Things moving around, so it
pretty much runs the gamut.
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- So, how long have you been here?
- I've been here for seven years.
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Okay. And how long has
the activity been going on?
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Forever, as far as I know.
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So, why're you calling us in now?
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Things have seemed to
kind of start picking up...
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Like objects being thrown
at people in my kitchen,
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and my daughter Amelia
was physically slapped.
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So we're worried about her.
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What do you hope we can do for you,
as far as the investigation goes?
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I would like my children to be able to
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pass on this legacy to
their children, and so on.
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This is part of who we are.
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Shawn, what about your customers?
Are they experiencing anything?
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They have told me about a lot
of the things that are happening.
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In fact, I have some ghost
logs that I'm gonna show you.
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- Whoa, geez!
- These are some firsthand accounts...
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That we have received
from some of our guests.
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We have two more like that.
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You're kidding?
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Wow!
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Now, what do you know about the history
of this place, I mean, it is pretty old?
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Well, there's a legend about a love
triangle that occurred near this location.
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Where a young lady was murdered.
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Wow, okay. Why don't you
show me around the restaurant?
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All right. Come on. Let's go this way.
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I'm seeing this little
lady, like, about this tall.
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And there's a male.
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Her son, I think.
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He's younger, 40s.
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He's not nice.
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It's really strange.
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She feels so much stress.
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Why?
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Cause she can't leave here ever.
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Steve: What's going on in this
room that you brought me in here?
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There are all sorts of descriptions
in that log book as far as apparitions.
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We get lots of reports on an older lady.
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Any description on her?
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That she wears glasses,
that's the only thing
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that people have all
consistently said... glasses.
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Okay.
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And one of the things that
I have seen in this room is
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some sort of shadowy figure
that appears under this table.
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Really?
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- It's like a solid figure.
- Okay.
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And it's shaped like a person.
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And we're positive it's not something
coming from the window, making it look...
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- Yes, I'm absolutely, 100% positive.
- Why is that?
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Occasionally, guests will say that
they felt something touching their leg.
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Wow.
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It's very upsetting.
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Matthew: The older woman and the son...
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You know if anybody might have
experiences related to them?
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I think that they might both be
seen um, as, like, apparitions.
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Okay.
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Her, though... [scoffs]
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I definitely think she
would try to talk to people.
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Okay.
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And if she doesn't like something, I
think she would let people know somehow.
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Are there any areas in particular
that they might be more?
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In here.
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Well, this is a busy kitchen, obviously
getting ready for the dinner crowd.
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So why'd you bring me in here?
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Just today, we were actually
standing over there and,
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this glass just inexplainably broke.
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- And nothing fell on top of it?
- No.
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Did you hear the crack?
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Yes, that's why we looked over there.
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Wow. Anything else?
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I have had what appeared to
be scratches, like three...
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One, two, three, scratches
up here on my arm.
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I was cooking, and I
thought I'd burned myself.
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Well, that's my obvious question,
right? Did you burn yourself?
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No. That's like a burn mark.
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In my experience working with
Amy, that could be a problem.
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Anything else in the kitchen?
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I was here one day, and I'd see
something like a white apparition.
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And it looked just like
a person walking back...
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You know, like walking back and forth.
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How tall would you say it was?
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Probably about six feet tall.
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It had arms and such.
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Okay. What if Amy did tell you...
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It's a little bit too dangerous here
to be here, for you and your guests?
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That would just be sad, if it
was not something that I could...
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Pass on to my daughter.
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So I'm hoping that there's a solution
that will allow us to stay here.
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All right.
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This area's not good.
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I'm seeing a weird shadow.
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Of a female.
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Her arms are long and thin.
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She's stretching out.
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Mm!
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- Are you okay?
- No!
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She can't feel her arms or legs.
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And she can't breathe.
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No... like [Bleep]!
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Why are my arms so long?
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[Bleep]
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[Crying] Oh, my God. What's happening?
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[Gasps]
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[Whispers]
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Why are my arms so long?
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[Bleep]
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[Crying] Oh, my God. What's happening?
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[Gasps]
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Oh!
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I'm not right.
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She's not right anymore!
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Something terrible's happened to her!
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This woman is desperate
to tell her story.
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So I'm doing something that I almost
never do because it's so dangerous.
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[Crying] Ow, my arms!
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Oh, my God!
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I'm letting her jump
me, or enter my body,
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so she can speak through
me and I can feel her pain.
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She can't find what she's looking for.
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[Exhales deeply]
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[Sniffles]
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She's a mess. She's a mess.
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Um, she does not understand
what's happened to her.
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When you bought this place, did you
have any idea it might be haunted?
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- No, I was a total skeptic.
- Okay, so what about now?
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A lot different now. I
totally believe it now.
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There's something here.
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What changed your mind?
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Well, I have a daughter,
a younger daughter.
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- Right.
- She's eight now.
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She was in the front
dining room one morning,
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and I heard her talking to somebody.
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So I asked her, I says, hey,
baby, who you playing with?
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And she turned the other way and looked
up and then says, what's your name?
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She asked somebody there what their
name was, and she wasn't talking to me.
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- So, did she tell you a name or anything?
- Yeah.
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- What'd she say?
- She said Eliza.
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She said she wanted her
to stay with her tonight.
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Okay. Anything else?
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One time, I came in
through the back door,
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and passed one of our... just a
manager who was working there...
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And all of a sudden this loud bang
crash happened right behind me.
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Well, what we call our fish racks...
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Flew over his head and landed
in the middle of the kitchen.
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I mean, I was shocked. I
didn't know what to think.
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Now, do you think
whatever's here is dangerous?
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Oh, yeah. It's very concerning,
you know, it's very upsetting.
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Well let me ask you this,
would you be comfortable turning
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this over to your daughter
right now and then walking away?
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No, I don't think I would.
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- You wouldn't?
- No.
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[Exhales deeply]
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She throws things.
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In here, in the kitchen.
I think that she...
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Is talking all the time.
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I think that they would feel...
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The pains.
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I think that...
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She looks...
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Scary.
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To people.
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[Bell rings]
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She's trying to understand what...
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Is going on.
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She...
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Keeps...
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Seeing things that...
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Frighten her.
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[Sighs heavily]
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She's getting panicked again.
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[Exhaling heavily]
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It's okay...
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It's okay.
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Steve: So, Doctor, you're Shawn's dad.
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- Yes.
- You're also a former Marine, like myself.
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You're a scientist,
as well as an engineer.
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That's correct.
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Straight out blunt, is there
something going on in this place?
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The unexplained events that
occurs in this restaurant.
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Well, give me an idea
what we're talking about.
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There was one situation in which I was
in the back, and I was cutting fish...
254
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And someone says something to me, so I
laid the knife down on the cutting board...
255
00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,806
- And I turned around to talk to him.
- Okay.
256
00:14:36,807 --> 00:14:39,378
When I turned back around...
257
00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:42,306
The knife was falling
from in front of me...
258
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And stuck in the board.
259
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I could see no explanation for it.
260
00:14:47,705 --> 00:14:50,005
I can't even try to debunk it for you.
261
00:14:50,006 --> 00:14:52,041
I find it very disconcerting.
262
00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:55,222
There's a entity here.
263
00:14:55,378 --> 00:14:59,578
Whether that entity is good or bad...
264
00:15:00,561 --> 00:15:03,021
Is unknown...
265
00:15:03,152 --> 00:15:06,776
But we don't take it lightly.
266
00:15:06,777 --> 00:15:10,197
She has to figure it out.
267
00:15:10,883 --> 00:15:16,523
Because when she figures it
out, it will all make sense.
268
00:15:18,787 --> 00:15:21,539
Please tell me what you remember.
269
00:15:21,540 --> 00:15:25,829
She's... [exhales] And
then I can't breathe.
270
00:15:25,830 --> 00:15:28,096
The woman that's jumped
my body is struggling
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00:15:28,097 --> 00:15:30,613
to piece together
what's happened to her.
272
00:15:30,614 --> 00:15:33,883
She's gasping for air, and
I'm feeling all of her pain.
273
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- And it hurts!
- [Exhales]
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Like, she can't breathe.
275
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I think this girl is being murdered.
276
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[Moans]
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[Whispers]
278
00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:07,602
Steve: Shawn told me there was
a legend about a love triangle
279
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where a young girl was
murdered on the property.
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So, I'm on my way to meet with the
local Police Chief to see if it's true.
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00:16:20,486 --> 00:16:23,126
Steve: My client said that
there was a female that was
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murdered on their property,
some kind of a lover's quarrel.
283
00:16:26,362 --> 00:16:27,862
Is there any truth to that at all?
284
00:16:27,863 --> 00:16:29,931
Yes, actually there is.
285
00:16:29,932 --> 00:16:35,832
April 30th of 1929, there was a young
lady murdered on that property area.
286
00:16:36,699 --> 00:16:39,593
Okay, so it doesn't sound
like it happened in the
287
00:16:39,594 --> 00:16:41,956
house I'm investigating,
but on the property.
288
00:16:41,957 --> 00:16:46,397
Yes. The victim is this young lady here.
289
00:16:46,555 --> 00:16:49,643
She was a 19-year-old
divorcee...
290
00:16:49,644 --> 00:16:55,104
Miss Lola Roller, and this
Doctor, Dr. Harry Dowling...
291
00:16:56,332 --> 00:16:59,822
Is apparently interested
in her in a romantic way.
292
00:16:59,823 --> 00:17:03,186
Chief, do we know if they actually
ever had a relationship together?
293
00:17:03,187 --> 00:17:05,265
No, indications are that they didn't.
294
00:17:05,266 --> 00:17:08,751
I mean, he was 48 years old, she was 19.
295
00:17:08,752 --> 00:17:11,123
She'd already told
members of her family that
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she did not want a
relationship with him.
297
00:17:13,473 --> 00:17:15,574
So, what does she wind up doing next?
298
00:17:15,575 --> 00:17:19,489
She leaves the Temple area, comes
to Waxahachie to get away from him.
299
00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:22,752
She comes up here, where her
Uncle lives, a Mr. H.L. Hempkins.
300
00:17:22,753 --> 00:17:25,105
And she stays with him in his house.
301
00:17:25,106 --> 00:17:26,686
He's a local grocer up here.
302
00:17:26,687 --> 00:17:30,957
So, Hempkins lived on the plantation
property I'm investigating.
303
00:17:30,958 --> 00:17:32,032
Correct.
304
00:17:32,033 --> 00:17:37,138
So, she's at the house, and Dr.
Dowling finds out where she is.
305
00:17:37,139 --> 00:17:43,039
And he is told by Mr. Hempkins that he's
not welcome, he's not gonna let him in.
306
00:17:43,371 --> 00:17:45,827
Well, Dr. Dowling forced his way in.
307
00:17:45,828 --> 00:17:49,963
So, Mr. Hempkins went
next door from his house...
308
00:17:49,964 --> 00:17:53,059
To his grocery store
to retrieve his weapon.
309
00:17:53,060 --> 00:17:55,944
And he also gets a hold of the Sheriff.
310
00:17:55,945 --> 00:17:59,153
So, Chief, when the Uncle and the
Sheriff come back to the house...
311
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- Is she already dead, what's going on?
- No, she's not dead at that time.
312
00:18:03,291 --> 00:18:05,438
They find that Dowling and her
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00:18:05,439 --> 00:18:11,339
are involved in a physical
altercation going on at that time.
314
00:18:13,297 --> 00:18:14,977
_.
315
00:18:17,071 --> 00:18:18,824
She feels like something's missing.
316
00:18:18,825 --> 00:18:21,235
There's something missing.
317
00:18:21,236 --> 00:18:24,067
A person, she's trying to find a person.
318
00:18:24,068 --> 00:18:27,482
I hear the men, they're talking.
319
00:18:27,483 --> 00:18:29,051
But it was too late.
320
00:18:29,052 --> 00:18:31,075
[Gasps]
321
00:18:31,076 --> 00:18:35,336
There's, like, three... three of them.
322
00:18:35,918 --> 00:18:36,924
[Groans]
323
00:18:36,925 --> 00:18:39,385
I feel pain.
324
00:18:39,966 --> 00:18:42,846
Some kind of pain.
325
00:18:44,392 --> 00:18:48,402
The Sheriff can see that
Dr. Dowling has a weapon.
326
00:18:48,403 --> 00:18:52,821
The Sheriff tries to get the
gun away from Dr. Dowling.
327
00:18:52,822 --> 00:18:54,489
But he's unsuccessful.
328
00:18:54,490 --> 00:18:58,062
And Dr. Dowling fires three
shots at the victim, Miss Lola.
329
00:18:58,063 --> 00:18:58,912
Okay.
330
00:18:58,913 --> 00:19:03,833
Hits her once in the
head, twice in the body.
331
00:19:05,849 --> 00:19:08,549
Oh, God [Bleep]!
332
00:19:09,342 --> 00:19:14,395
She can't move. She's so angry,
she can't move her [Bleep] legs.
333
00:19:14,396 --> 00:19:16,217
I see...
334
00:19:16,218 --> 00:19:18,549
How much it hurts.
335
00:19:18,550 --> 00:19:22,270
Uh, and then I can't breathe.
336
00:19:23,099 --> 00:19:27,359
I can't get the breath into my body.
337
00:19:28,586 --> 00:19:31,106
And it hurts.
338
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,240
She thinks that she might be dying.
339
00:19:38,514 --> 00:19:40,734
[Whimpers]
340
00:19:41,474 --> 00:19:43,505
What happens next?
341
00:19:43,506 --> 00:19:48,701
Well, Mr. Hempkins, from behind
the Sheriff, shoots Dr. Dowling.
342
00:19:48,702 --> 00:19:50,425
And hits him in the head.
343
00:19:50,426 --> 00:19:54,782
But there's also some question
that the good Doctor...
344
00:19:54,783 --> 00:19:58,247
Had intended something, or
knew something might happen.
345
00:19:58,248 --> 00:20:00,344
Because in his wallet was found a note,
346
00:20:00,345 --> 00:20:04,046
that in case something happens,
contact either one of these two people.
347
00:20:04,047 --> 00:20:07,140
Because I'm going to go get
the only woman I've ever loved.
348
00:20:07,141 --> 00:20:10,311
Chief, this sounds like this must've
been some huge case back then.
349
00:20:10,312 --> 00:20:13,669
Well, it was a pretty good-sized case,
obviously at that particular time,
350
00:20:13,670 --> 00:20:18,355
but it's not the only one involving
ladies that have been killed in that area,
351
00:20:18,356 --> 00:20:23,936
within one mile of the place
that you're talking about.
352
00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:29,779
[Whispers]
353
00:20:36,275 --> 00:20:39,711
Steve: The story of Lola's murder is
like something right out of a movie.
354
00:20:39,712 --> 00:20:41,906
It's hard to believe
there's several other cases
355
00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:44,650
similar to that within a
mile of Shawn's restaurant.
356
00:20:44,651 --> 00:20:47,220
I'm heading over to meet with
the County Sheriff, who's done the
357
00:20:47,221 --> 00:20:53,121
research on those cases, and he
said it will definitely help my case.
358
00:20:57,796 --> 00:21:00,439
You mentioned you found some
more cases very close to the
359
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,713
property I'm investigating,
similar to the Roller homicide.
360
00:21:03,714 --> 00:21:05,913
- We did.
- Okay, what were you able to find out?
361
00:21:05,914 --> 00:21:10,207
Ernest Feray, a 56-year-old
man, shot his wife, Amanda.
362
00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:13,456
He shot her in the head
for throwing a vase at him.
363
00:21:13,457 --> 00:21:15,753
Here's a picture of him in an article.
364
00:21:15,754 --> 00:21:18,660
How far from the Catfish
Plantation did this homicide happen?
365
00:21:18,661 --> 00:21:20,357
It's approximately .8 of a mile.
366
00:21:20,358 --> 00:21:23,351
- Okay, so pretty close.
- Yes, Sir.
367
00:21:23,352 --> 00:21:25,547
- Was there any other cases?
- Yes.
368
00:21:25,548 --> 00:21:27,828
In 1914...
369
00:21:28,429 --> 00:21:32,954
Thomas Hastings shot his 18-year-old wife,
mable, and then turned the gun on himself.
370
00:21:32,955 --> 00:21:38,075
And they were both found in the
kitchen area of their apartment.
371
00:21:38,076 --> 00:21:40,443
And how far from the plantation is this?
372
00:21:40,444 --> 00:21:43,521
- This one was .7 of a mile, I believe.
- Okay.
373
00:21:43,522 --> 00:21:46,179
Then, we had another one that was
374
00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:49,180
approximately two blocks
from the Catfish Plantation.
375
00:21:49,181 --> 00:21:54,663
On this one here is Charles
Allverson and his wife, Maggie.
376
00:21:54,664 --> 00:21:56,978
Maggie was taking
medication for an illness,
377
00:21:56,979 --> 00:22:01,902
and her husband, Charles, decided
to mix strychnine in the medication.
378
00:22:01,903 --> 00:22:04,803
She died of a stomach poisoning.
379
00:22:04,804 --> 00:22:08,139
This is another female
murdered by the husband.
380
00:22:08,140 --> 00:22:10,125
You find this unusual
when you read about this?
381
00:22:10,126 --> 00:22:11,229
Yes.
382
00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:14,567
We have between 8 and
10 homicides a year.
383
00:22:14,568 --> 00:22:17,580
And that's 990-square-miles.
384
00:22:17,581 --> 00:22:20,621
Right. And these are four homicides
within a mile of the Catfish Plantation.
385
00:22:20,622 --> 00:22:24,162
- Yep.
- That's interesting.
386
00:22:25,612 --> 00:22:29,332
There's, um, a lot of people.
387
00:22:29,655 --> 00:22:32,895
Um, and it's not safe.
388
00:22:33,166 --> 00:22:36,818
Letting the murdered girl jump
me took almost all of my energy.
389
00:22:36,819 --> 00:22:38,886
But now that she's out of my body,
390
00:22:38,887 --> 00:22:41,901
there are other dead here
who are trying to communicate.
391
00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:47,242
Something's happening, and
this woman's freaking out.
392
00:22:47,927 --> 00:22:51,611
There's a lot of stomach pain.
393
00:22:51,612 --> 00:22:55,019
Someone's saying, self-inflicted.
394
00:22:55,020 --> 00:23:00,240
There was some kind of
love going on or something.
395
00:23:00,736 --> 00:23:05,405
And it was horrible,
and it ended horribly.
396
00:23:05,406 --> 00:23:07,266
Ugh.
397
00:23:10,231 --> 00:23:12,904
Steve: Now that I know four women
were murdered within a mile of my
398
00:23:12,905 --> 00:23:16,436
client's property, I need to see
if anything else went down there.
399
00:23:16,437 --> 00:23:20,337
So, I head to the local library.
400
00:23:21,573 --> 00:23:24,963
Searching through the archives, I
discover a former Major League ball player
401
00:23:24,964 --> 00:23:28,452
named Paul Richards who used
to live on my client's land.
402
00:23:28,453 --> 00:23:34,353
Turns out, he suffered a great
deal of loss in his time there.
403
00:23:34,782 --> 00:23:37,265
So I reached out to a local
genealogist who says his
404
00:23:37,266 --> 00:23:42,606
story is filled with fame,
tragedy, and family feuds.
405
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,770
The property I'm investigating was once
406
00:23:50,771 --> 00:23:54,177
owned by one of Waxahachie's
most famous residents.
407
00:23:54,178 --> 00:23:55,778
Well, that's true.
408
00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:57,727
Paul Richards was a baseball player.
409
00:23:57,728 --> 00:24:00,788
And I have a photo here of him.
410
00:24:00,789 --> 00:24:05,124
In that photo, he's a
manager of the Orioles.
411
00:24:05,125 --> 00:24:08,160
Now, you had mentioned on the phone
that he had some hardships in his life.
412
00:24:08,161 --> 00:24:11,080
Sadly, he lost a
brother, a half-brother.
413
00:24:11,081 --> 00:24:12,963
He was only 24 years old.
414
00:24:12,964 --> 00:24:17,423
And then, later, he
lost his father, in 1937.
415
00:24:17,424 --> 00:24:21,502
And then, Paul Richards lost
his six-year-old daughter.
416
00:24:21,503 --> 00:24:25,138
Just three weeks before
his mother passed away.
417
00:24:25,139 --> 00:24:27,528
So, I would imagine
it's got to be tough.
418
00:24:27,529 --> 00:24:31,277
Very hard, but he and his mother
sometimes weren't on the best of terms.
419
00:24:31,278 --> 00:24:35,714
I want to show you this photograph
of her in her later years.
420
00:24:35,715 --> 00:24:39,750
Right after his windfall of winning
the pennant and getting some money.
421
00:24:39,751 --> 00:24:42,792
He had indoor plumbing
installed in his mother's home.
422
00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:44,669
- Okay.
- And, um, so...
423
00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:47,995
I'm sure he thought that she would be very
pleased with that, but when he asked her,
424
00:24:47,996 --> 00:24:53,896
she said to him that she would've
just as soon had a new dress.
425
00:24:53,927 --> 00:24:55,709
To him, it was very serious,
426
00:24:55,710 --> 00:25:01,610
and they were on the outs with
each other for a long, long time.
427
00:25:04,667 --> 00:25:06,075
Her son.
428
00:25:06,076 --> 00:25:09,556
She says that he's like...
429
00:25:10,211 --> 00:25:11,494
Money-hungry.
430
00:25:11,495 --> 00:25:15,254
She says she spoiled him badly.
431
00:25:15,255 --> 00:25:18,534
And so she's kind of, like, upset.
432
00:25:18,535 --> 00:25:20,949
Because he turned out that way.
433
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:24,430
And isn't a better person.
434
00:25:25,885 --> 00:25:29,185
She says he definitely...
435
00:25:29,348 --> 00:25:32,768
Exploited people for money.
436
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:39,028
And she's like, cause
I think he's the Devil.
437
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:40,757
You have any idea how he died?
438
00:25:40,758 --> 00:25:42,443
He was playing golf.
439
00:25:42,444 --> 00:25:46,510
At Waxahachie Country Club,
and he died of a heart attack.
440
00:25:46,511 --> 00:25:49,391
At the age of 77.
441
00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:56,262
I am getting a lot
of physical pain here.
442
00:25:56,263 --> 00:26:02,125
Now, I'm getting, like... I'm getting,
like, maybe this is heart attack.
443
00:26:02,126 --> 00:26:04,376
Yeah, definitely a heart attack.
444
00:26:04,377 --> 00:26:06,657
[Heartbeat]
445
00:26:08,288 --> 00:26:11,114
I think this is her son.
446
00:26:11,115 --> 00:26:13,155
[Sighs]
447
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:21,754
I'm having a sketch artist draw the two
448
00:26:21,755 --> 00:26:24,148
entities who stood out
the most from my walk.
449
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:27,209
First, the old woman.
450
00:26:28,085 --> 00:26:29,860
She was...
451
00:26:29,861 --> 00:26:31,646
Probably...
452
00:26:31,647 --> 00:26:34,125
In her late 60s...
453
00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:36,466
About 5'4.
454
00:26:37,462 --> 00:26:40,522
She had smaller eyes.
455
00:26:41,604 --> 00:26:43,611
Almond-shaped.
456
00:26:43,612 --> 00:26:49,009
Next, the woman who jumped me, and
how she projects herself to the living.
457
00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:52,273
She's kind of disfigured.
458
00:26:52,274 --> 00:26:54,846
Her arms are...
459
00:26:54,847 --> 00:26:56,506
Too long.
460
00:26:56,507 --> 00:26:59,527
And her hair is like
sticking in clumps...
461
00:26:59,528 --> 00:27:02,768
Out away from her head.
462
00:27:05,494 --> 00:27:08,974
Man: Is this what you saw?
463
00:27:09,791 --> 00:27:11,651
Yes.
464
00:27:15,853 --> 00:27:18,073
[Whispers]
465
00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,540
Steve: Now that Amy and I have
finished our investigations,
466
00:27:34,541 --> 00:27:39,113
it's time to reveal our findings to our
clients and each other for the first time.
467
00:27:39,114 --> 00:27:41,048
Amy, I'd like you to
meet Shawn and David.
468
00:27:41,049 --> 00:27:42,330
They're married.
469
00:27:42,331 --> 00:27:45,348
They're part owners of the
Catfish Plantation restaurant.
470
00:27:45,349 --> 00:27:46,883
It's a family business.
471
00:27:46,884 --> 00:27:50,487
Actually, her parents work there,
as well as your 16-year-old daughter.
472
00:27:50,488 --> 00:27:52,122
And that's where the problem comes in.
473
00:27:52,123 --> 00:27:56,195
There's a lot of activity in this
place, and their concern is...
474
00:27:56,196 --> 00:27:59,219
Is it safe for them, their
family, and their guests?
475
00:27:59,220 --> 00:28:02,469
And, they would like to eventually
turn it over to their kids.
476
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:05,400
They called us in to see if
there's a solution for it.
477
00:28:05,401 --> 00:28:11,301
So, with that, I'm gonna have Amy
tell us a little bit about her walk.
478
00:28:13,076 --> 00:28:17,013
When I went in, these two dead
people met me right at the door.
479
00:28:17,014 --> 00:28:22,419
It was an elderly little lady,
and a male who might be her son.
480
00:28:22,420 --> 00:28:25,175
And she told me...
481
00:28:25,176 --> 00:28:27,051
That he is...
482
00:28:27,052 --> 00:28:29,881
Not a very nice person.
483
00:28:29,882 --> 00:28:32,898
He was very money-hungry.
484
00:28:32,899 --> 00:28:37,227
And then, I was feeling
symptoms of a heart attack.
485
00:28:37,228 --> 00:28:40,653
As far as interactions with the living.
486
00:28:40,654 --> 00:28:44,778
People might see them as apparitions.
487
00:28:44,779 --> 00:28:48,028
One day, we were at the restaurant, our
youngest daughter was up there with us,
488
00:28:48,029 --> 00:28:50,780
and she was in the front
playing, just being a kid.
489
00:28:50,781 --> 00:28:53,160
And I came around the corner,
I could hear her talking,
490
00:28:53,161 --> 00:28:56,403
and it was an imaginary
friend, I'm sure.
491
00:28:56,404 --> 00:28:59,588
And as I listened to her for a few
moments, some of the things she was saying
492
00:28:59,589 --> 00:29:03,351
made me believe that it was almost like
a motherly or a grandmother-type figure.
493
00:29:03,352 --> 00:29:05,629
Wanting her to spend the night.
494
00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:07,312
Interesting.
495
00:29:07,313 --> 00:29:10,122
Steve: Now, I wanted to tell
you about the Richards family
496
00:29:10,123 --> 00:29:13,133
that lived in this
house for about 45 years.
497
00:29:13,134 --> 00:29:15,525
Paul Richards was a
mediocre baseball player,
498
00:29:15,526 --> 00:29:18,366
but a pretty good manager
in the Major Leagues.
499
00:29:18,367 --> 00:29:20,836
And he lived here in
this house with his mom.
500
00:29:20,837 --> 00:29:23,279
- Oh.
- I actually have a photo of him.
501
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,400
This is Paul Richards.
502
00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:28,509
He had some heartbreak in his life.
503
00:29:28,510 --> 00:29:31,651
He had a 24-year-old half-brother
who died from Tuberculosis.
504
00:29:31,652 --> 00:29:36,317
In 1951, his six-year-old daughter
died from a tear in the heart.
505
00:29:36,318 --> 00:29:39,975
Three weeks later, his mother
fell, and she died a few days later.
506
00:29:39,976 --> 00:29:41,071
Hmm.
507
00:29:41,072 --> 00:29:42,956
Now, Amy, you mentioned
that the older woman
508
00:29:42,957 --> 00:29:45,617
kind of thought he was
money-hungry in life.
509
00:29:45,618 --> 00:29:49,690
Well, the mom and Paul
Richards had an argument...
510
00:29:49,691 --> 00:29:52,949
Over money and didn't talk after that.
511
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:57,104
But after he wins the World Series,
and comes into some money, obviously...
512
00:29:57,105 --> 00:30:01,384
Um... he goes ahead and buys her
indoor plumbing for the house.
513
00:30:01,385 --> 00:30:04,854
She turns around and says, well, why,
you should've just bought me a new dress.
514
00:30:04,855 --> 00:30:07,666
- You also mentioned a heart attack.
- Yes.
515
00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:11,761
He did die of a heart attack, on
a golf course right in Waxahachie.
516
00:30:11,762 --> 00:30:14,042
Geez, wow.
517
00:30:14,505 --> 00:30:17,982
Now, I have a picture of his
mom, Sarah, when she was older.
518
00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:22,972
It couldn't have been too
long before she passed, either.
519
00:30:22,973 --> 00:30:26,753
I have a younger photo of her.
520
00:30:27,478 --> 00:30:29,379
What a difference.
521
00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:31,099
Shawn: We've seen her.
- Really?
522
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,439
Mm-hmm.
523
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,740
That's giving me chills.
524
00:30:35,953 --> 00:30:39,853
I saw her in between these ages.
525
00:30:40,458 --> 00:30:42,663
And I did do a sketch of her.
526
00:30:42,664 --> 00:30:44,944
All right.
527
00:30:51,317 --> 00:30:52,836
Well, you guys take a look.
528
00:30:52,837 --> 00:30:56,137
- Mm hmm.
- Holy smokes.
529
00:30:58,968 --> 00:31:00,828
Wow.
530
00:31:01,113 --> 00:31:03,581
They're very similar.
531
00:31:03,582 --> 00:31:06,981
The hair is, you know, right on.
532
00:31:06,982 --> 00:31:10,439
The brow, and the ridge line right
there, right above the nose...
533
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,160
All seem to be very right on.
534
00:31:14,356 --> 00:31:18,861
- You think this is who you might've seen?
- Probably, yeah.
535
00:31:18,862 --> 00:31:23,549
She was showing me a
lot of different scenes.
536
00:31:23,550 --> 00:31:26,957
Or situations that she
had seen in her life.
537
00:31:26,958 --> 00:31:32,124
What I could see and make out of
them, ended, like, with people dead.
538
00:31:32,125 --> 00:31:35,697
The one that I could make the most...
539
00:31:35,698 --> 00:31:39,383
Sense out of was about a female.
540
00:31:39,384 --> 00:31:44,006
I started getting really
bad stomach pains, and...
541
00:31:44,007 --> 00:31:48,125
Someone out of these dead people
said that it was self-inflicted.
542
00:31:48,126 --> 00:31:53,330
There was love involved, and
that it ended just horribly.
543
00:31:53,331 --> 00:31:58,134
From 1914 to 1929, there
were four women murdered...
544
00:31:58,135 --> 00:32:01,862
- What? What?
- Within a mile radius of the restaurant.
545
00:32:01,863 --> 00:32:06,095
Now, I think the murder you're talking
about is this woman, Maggie Allverson.
546
00:32:06,096 --> 00:32:08,711
She had been sick with
some stomach ailments...
547
00:32:08,712 --> 00:32:11,614
- Okay.
- And she was taking medication.
548
00:32:11,615 --> 00:32:15,664
Her husband, Charles, decided to
mix the medication with strychnine.
549
00:32:15,665 --> 00:32:18,199
And wound up killing her with it.
550
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,208
Now...
551
00:32:19,209 --> 00:32:21,123
- Nice.
- Yeah.
552
00:32:21,124 --> 00:32:24,093
This is her death certificate
here, Maggie Allverson.
553
00:32:24,094 --> 00:32:27,429
She was about 40 years old when she died.
He was a little bit younger. He was 34.
554
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:29,098
This only happened two blocks...
555
00:32:29,099 --> 00:32:31,567
- Oh!
- From the restaurant.
556
00:32:31,568 --> 00:32:34,787
It was close. So she probably knew her.
557
00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:37,768
I mean, it's a small town, everybody
knows everybody in this size town.
558
00:32:37,769 --> 00:32:39,231
- Yes.
- Wow. Hmm.
559
00:32:39,232 --> 00:32:42,712
Makes so much sense to me.
560
00:32:43,126 --> 00:32:44,701
What else you see?
561
00:32:44,702 --> 00:32:48,018
I was in the bathroom area.
562
00:32:48,019 --> 00:32:52,918
And I started to get this
really intense, negative feeling,
563
00:32:52,919 --> 00:32:55,809
like when you're almost
in a car accident.
564
00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:57,874
I felt a woman near me.
565
00:32:57,875 --> 00:33:02,167
And then I did something
that I very rarely do...
566
00:33:02,168 --> 00:33:05,408
And I let her jump me.
567
00:33:06,844 --> 00:33:11,802
She stayed with me for
about a half an hour or so.
568
00:33:11,803 --> 00:33:12,779
Wow.
569
00:33:12,780 --> 00:33:15,421
So, were you in control
or you don't remember?
570
00:33:15,422 --> 00:33:18,782
Um, initially, I was not.
571
00:33:19,251 --> 00:33:22,238
Is she trying to communicate
through you, or what was going on?
572
00:33:22,239 --> 00:33:25,816
Well, I can show you, because...
573
00:33:25,817 --> 00:33:30,497
- We have Matt's cameras.
- Let me see it.
574
00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:32,909
[Camera beeps]
575
00:33:32,910 --> 00:33:35,464
[Crying] Oh, my God, what's happening?
576
00:33:35,465 --> 00:33:37,599
Ow, my arms!
577
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,602
Oh, my God!
578
00:33:39,603 --> 00:33:41,570
I'm not right!
579
00:33:41,571 --> 00:33:45,231
She's just not right anymore!
580
00:33:45,741 --> 00:33:48,559
Something terrible happened to her!
581
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,579
[Camera beeps]
582
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:51,597
I don't even know what
to say about this, I don't
583
00:33:51,598 --> 00:33:54,033
like that you did it,
to be honest with you.
584
00:33:54,034 --> 00:33:57,019
What is this woman's deal?
What's the story with her?
585
00:33:57,020 --> 00:33:59,721
She's very confused and scared.
586
00:33:59,722 --> 00:34:03,502
She's constantly reliving her...
587
00:34:04,222 --> 00:34:06,238
Her death.
588
00:34:06,239 --> 00:34:10,753
She doesn't understand
at all what is going on.
589
00:34:10,754 --> 00:34:14,465
She was waiting, I think, for
somebody to come and get her.
590
00:34:14,466 --> 00:34:17,393
She saw some men...
591
00:34:17,394 --> 00:34:20,694
Um, come in towards her.
592
00:34:21,324 --> 00:34:24,078
- She said, I think I'm dying.
- Oh, no!
593
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:29,183
Um, and then she was like trying to
make her body breathe, and it couldn't.
594
00:34:29,184 --> 00:34:33,564
I got a lot of pain here, in my neck.
595
00:34:33,768 --> 00:34:36,841
Um, and the front of my chest.
596
00:34:36,842 --> 00:34:40,195
So, I think at that point she was
probably dead but still inside her body.
597
00:34:40,196 --> 00:34:41,663
That's awful.
598
00:34:41,664 --> 00:34:43,758
I think I have an
answer, but I'm not sure.
599
00:34:43,759 --> 00:34:45,731
Remember I told you there
was four women murdered?
600
00:34:45,732 --> 00:34:47,001
- Right.
- Okay.
601
00:34:47,002 --> 00:34:52,902
One of the women that was murdered, died,
not in the house, but on the property.
602
00:34:53,034 --> 00:34:55,643
Back in 1929 on April 30th.
603
00:34:55,644 --> 00:34:57,978
Her name was Lola Roller.
604
00:34:57,979 --> 00:34:59,996
She was 19 years old.
605
00:34:59,997 --> 00:35:01,672
This is her.
606
00:35:01,673 --> 00:35:04,585
She lived in Temple, which
is about 100 miles from here.
607
00:35:04,586 --> 00:35:09,327
She came up here to get away from a
48-year-old Doctor. He was a veterinarian.
608
00:35:09,328 --> 00:35:11,147
His name was Dr. Harry Dowling,
609
00:35:11,148 --> 00:35:14,194
who fell in love with her, and
she wanted nothing to do with him.
610
00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:16,697
They never even had a
relationship together.
611
00:35:16,698 --> 00:35:19,132
She comes up here to
stay with her Uncle.
612
00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:21,401
Somehow, he finds out she's up here.
613
00:35:21,402 --> 00:35:25,906
He drives up, finds out the house she's
in, goes to the door, knocks on it.
614
00:35:25,907 --> 00:35:28,776
The Uncle answers, says, you're
not allowed in here, get away!
615
00:35:28,777 --> 00:35:31,879
He had a grocery store
next to the house.
616
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,768
He went there to go get his
gun and then get the Sheriff.
617
00:35:35,769 --> 00:35:40,460
When they come back, somehow
Dr. Dowling got into the house.
618
00:35:40,461 --> 00:35:43,798
And when the Uncle
and the Sheriff arrive,
619
00:35:43,799 --> 00:35:46,832
he's got her and they're
in a physical altercation.
620
00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:49,128
The Doctor, he's got a gun in his hand.
621
00:35:49,129 --> 00:35:53,916
The Sheriff tried to gun away from him, a
fight ensues, there's a big fight going on.
622
00:35:53,917 --> 00:35:57,204
And the Doctor he puts one
in her head, two in her chest.
623
00:35:57,205 --> 00:35:59,125
Whoa.
624
00:35:59,140 --> 00:36:03,571
The Uncle, he puts one into
the Doctor's head and kills him.
625
00:36:03,572 --> 00:36:07,164
The thing that really
bothers her is that she...
626
00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,783
Sees herself very strangely.
627
00:36:09,784 --> 00:36:12,316
She does not know that she's dead.
628
00:36:12,317 --> 00:36:14,621
To her, she's still fighting.
629
00:36:14,622 --> 00:36:18,125
- It's very confusing.
- It's sad.
630
00:36:18,126 --> 00:36:21,850
The way that she sees herself...
631
00:36:21,851 --> 00:36:24,834
Is basically like a shadow.
632
00:36:24,835 --> 00:36:27,469
And her limbs are...
633
00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:29,787
Extremely long and thin.
634
00:36:29,788 --> 00:36:34,434
I kind of thought that that's maybe
how living people would see her.
635
00:36:34,435 --> 00:36:35,238
Okay.
636
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,216
Like a female shadow
that's kind of distorted.
637
00:36:38,217 --> 00:36:41,849
I'm having a little trouble understanding
how that would actually look.
638
00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:45,210
Well, I did do a sketch.
639
00:36:54,203 --> 00:36:56,569
That's odd.
640
00:36:56,570 --> 00:36:59,623
Take a look at that.
641
00:36:59,624 --> 00:37:02,684
Wow, I've seen that.
642
00:37:09,745 --> 00:37:11,965
[Whispers]
643
00:37:18,988 --> 00:37:22,288
Amy: I did do a sketch.
644
00:37:23,811 --> 00:37:26,691
Steve: That's odd.
645
00:37:27,463 --> 00:37:30,523
Take a look at that.
646
00:37:34,194 --> 00:37:37,734
Shawn: Wow, I've seen that.
647
00:37:41,228 --> 00:37:44,888
This is very upsetting to me.
648
00:37:45,879 --> 00:37:47,807
It's a dark figure.
649
00:37:47,808 --> 00:37:53,708
That crouches underneath the
tables in the burgundy dining room.
650
00:37:54,932 --> 00:38:00,832
So, is it possible that the
shadow thing she's seen is Lola?
651
00:38:02,598 --> 00:38:04,458
Yes.
652
00:38:10,937 --> 00:38:13,075
What does she do? I mean...
653
00:38:13,076 --> 00:38:15,476
Well, she...
654
00:38:15,691 --> 00:38:18,498
Will break things...
655
00:38:18,499 --> 00:38:23,899
She'll throw things around,
especially in the kitchen.
656
00:38:25,756 --> 00:38:29,358
She is always screaming
and yelling and crying.
657
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:30,814
Wow.
658
00:38:30,815 --> 00:38:35,195
- Can she become frustrated?
- Oh, yeah.
659
00:38:35,530 --> 00:38:38,622
We have our racks that
we use for cooking.
660
00:38:38,623 --> 00:38:43,126
And I was almost out of the
kitchen, and they flew off the shelf,
661
00:38:43,127 --> 00:38:46,907
and flew over our assistant manager's
head and landed behind... right behind me.
662
00:38:46,908 --> 00:38:49,068
Oh, wow.
663
00:38:49,892 --> 00:38:54,090
Steve: Now, one of the biggest reasons
we're here is she's been scratched.
664
00:38:54,091 --> 00:38:56,550
On her left arm.
665
00:38:56,551 --> 00:38:58,284
Show Amy where you were scratched.
666
00:38:58,285 --> 00:39:01,871
It was just right like that.
667
00:39:01,872 --> 00:39:05,091
Just like three fingernail marks.
668
00:39:05,092 --> 00:39:06,952
Wow.
669
00:39:07,279 --> 00:39:09,199
Yeah.
670
00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:13,331
That's her.
671
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,224
The scratches, I think, are...
672
00:39:17,225 --> 00:39:21,555
Something that occurred
during the struggle.
673
00:39:21,556 --> 00:39:23,460
Okay.
674
00:39:23,461 --> 00:39:26,551
I'm very sorry for her.
675
00:39:26,552 --> 00:39:29,476
I knew these things weren't
just happening for no reason,
676
00:39:29,477 --> 00:39:34,277
that someone was trying
to tell us something.
677
00:39:36,789 --> 00:39:39,752
We still haven't answered
your most pressing question...
678
00:39:39,753 --> 00:39:45,287
Is it gonna be safe here for
you, your family, your guests?
679
00:39:45,288 --> 00:39:49,218
And, even more importantly, is it gonna
be okay for you to pass it on to your kids?
680
00:39:49,219 --> 00:39:50,205
Right.
681
00:39:50,206 --> 00:39:55,306
For that answer, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
682
00:39:55,397 --> 00:39:57,979
We'll start with the mother and son.
683
00:39:57,980 --> 00:40:00,996
A local medium needs to come in.
684
00:40:00,997 --> 00:40:03,577
And talk to...
685
00:40:03,724 --> 00:40:05,584
Her.
686
00:40:05,818 --> 00:40:08,491
You know, she has so much anger.
687
00:40:08,492 --> 00:40:12,601
She needs to talk about,
you know, her life.
688
00:40:12,602 --> 00:40:14,813
And the things that
are keeping her here.
689
00:40:14,814 --> 00:40:15,931
Okay.
690
00:40:15,932 --> 00:40:18,619
Once these two have spoken.
691
00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:21,650
Let the medium do whatever they need to.
692
00:40:21,651 --> 00:40:25,573
Um, to make sure that they move on.
693
00:40:25,574 --> 00:40:31,474
As far as she's concerned, this
is a little bit more detailed.
694
00:40:31,482 --> 00:40:35,343
There are two people you need for this.
695
00:40:35,344 --> 00:40:39,514
You get another medium,
and a grief counselor.
696
00:40:39,515 --> 00:40:42,948
So, they have to come together,
the medium and the counselor?
697
00:40:42,949 --> 00:40:44,253
Yes.
698
00:40:44,254 --> 00:40:45,463
Okay.
699
00:40:45,464 --> 00:40:48,366
The medium might get jumped.
700
00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:52,956
So, they should take
this slow and steady.
701
00:40:52,957 --> 00:40:55,602
Um, with several meetings.
702
00:40:55,603 --> 00:40:56,742
Okay.
703
00:40:56,743 --> 00:41:01,770
By the third meeting, the
start of therapy begins.
704
00:41:01,771 --> 00:41:04,994
This is when the grief counselor...
705
00:41:04,995 --> 00:41:10,895
Will really take over as far as
counseling this person who's dying.
706
00:41:12,177 --> 00:41:16,125
We're dealing with somebody,
again, who is extremely traumatized,
707
00:41:16,126 --> 00:41:19,402
because she's never moved on.
708
00:41:19,403 --> 00:41:24,968
And at first, you know, things
might become more active...
709
00:41:24,969 --> 00:41:28,002
Because she might be pissed.
710
00:41:28,003 --> 00:41:31,342
But that should just be
temporary until she leaves.
711
00:41:31,343 --> 00:41:33,478
I've got to ask the question
I ask all my clients...
712
00:41:33,479 --> 00:41:37,356
Are you gonna take Amy's
advice and do what she says?
713
00:41:37,357 --> 00:41:40,685
I think that we need to
help Lola, definitely.
714
00:41:40,686 --> 00:41:43,400
Absolutely, cause, I mean,
it's almost terrifying
715
00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:47,610
just to think about
what she's going through.
716
00:41:47,611 --> 00:41:51,031
We feel compelled to help.
717
00:41:52,030 --> 00:41:54,768
Amy: Lola continues to suffer in death.
718
00:41:54,769 --> 00:42:00,159
But if Shawn and David follow my advice,
I'm confident she will be set free.
719
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:06,060
And they'll be able to safely pass
their restaurant on to their children.
720
00:42:08,271 --> 00:42:09,951
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721
00:42:14,353 --> 00:42:16,029
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