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[Thunder crashes]
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It's just filled with darkness.
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I think the house is gonna kill us.
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He was bad.
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I kept my guns loaded. Big mistake.
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Definitely seeing blood on the floor.
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He should have broken his neck.
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- What?
- Really strange stuff.
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It's like a freaking madhouse.
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It's really bad in here.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Something is not right.
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I see dead people.
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This person might have
been a serial killer.
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I speak to dead people...
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I get those chills.
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And they speak to me.
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He is darkness. He is evil.
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There's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she broke her neck.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective.
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Tellin' me the truth?
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I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I think the Devil is down here.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Who the hell would do this?
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But Steve and I never speak.
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We never communicate
during an investigation...
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Until the very end.
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Who's he looking to kill?
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We uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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You need to get out of here right now.
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Or time to get out.
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It was like endless darkness.
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Steve: Amy and I work
independently of one another.
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I dig into the property's dark
past with interviews and research.
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While Amy communicates with the dead.
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I'm in Starks, Maine. It's a small
town about 45 minutes from Augusta.
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Amy and I were called in
by a woman named Ann Marie.
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She says things in her
house are out of control.
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Everyone is sick all the time,
things are starting to get physical.
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And that whatever's there is
picking on her elderly parents.
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I'm hoping Amy and I
can help this woman out.
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Matthew: Before Amy arrives, I
look for any leading information.
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This home has a lot of religious icons
that need to be covered or removed.
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Once they're cleared, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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Nothing here is sacred.
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- Ewe.
- Matthew: What?
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It does not feel good in here.
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A lot of...
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Anger here.
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There's so much fear and
anger, like, huge, huge.
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So, Ann Marie, I know you
sounded pretty concerned on
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the phone about what's
going on in the house here.
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You live here with your
parents, is that correct?
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- Yes.
- And how old are they?
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My mother is 74. My father is 79.
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- And how long have you lived here?
- 13 years.
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Give me a little bit of
a rundown what's going on.
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There's a lot of sort
of unexplained noises.
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We've seen things.
People have been touched.
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You're here 13 years. Why
are you calling us now?
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It seemed like things
started getting worse.
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People are getting attacked.
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All three of us, our health has gone
downhill since we moved into this house.
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I have breathing problems now.
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All three of us have developed
kidney problems since we lived here.
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What makes you think your health
issues have to do with the paranormal?
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Because it's too much of a coincidence.
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We see something or we
have some kind of encounter,
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and then, all of a sudden,
somebody has a new health issue.
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Like, within days of an encounter.
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Do you know any history about the house?
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We found out a few months
after we moved in that um...
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A woman had killed herself here.
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Do you know who that person
was or any information on them?
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It was the person who we bought
the house from, it was his wife.
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What are you hoping Amy and I
can do for you and your parents?
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I just want to know what to do.
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I mean, we keep getting
sicker and sicker.
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I think the house is
gonna kill us. I really do.
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It's just filled with darkness.
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I just feel sick.
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It's almost like nothing can live here.
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There's just all these dead people,
and it's, like, all these deaths.
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And there's a lot of them.
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This is their house. This is,
like, the house of the dead.
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You said the basement
you don't like at all.
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Ann Marie: [Voice breaking] No. Before,
if I had to, like, change a fuse or...
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I don't even come down
here to do that anymore.
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I call my brother-in-law,
make him do it.
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I can hear it in your voice.
You sound like you're...
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Yeah, yeah. I don't want to be here.
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What are you feeling
when you come down here?
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Every time I'm down here, I
feel like people are touching me.
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Like hands are grabbing me from behind
and trying to, like, hold on to me.
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And anything else?
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I was down here one time with my nephew,
and two huge bins of, like, tools...
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Fell on me, pinned my leg.
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And it wasn't slanted
or anything like that?
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It was stuff that was
stacked forever, it was...
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It was solid. It never moved.
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You have any animals down here
that may have knocked it over?
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No, the animals never come down here.
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Something bad happens every
time somebody comes down here.
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Why don't we get out of here and you
show me someplace else in the house?
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- Okay, okay. Yup.
- All right?
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There were people hiding down there.
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I want to say they were, like, robbers.
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You know, but one of them was pretty bad,
on the run for a long time... a long time.
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I know he ends up killing somebody.
He killed somebody down there.
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I don't see a weapon, so
I'm assuming with his hands.
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I think this house is a purgatory place.
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What's going on up here?
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First, it started with just hearing,
like, footsteps up and down the hallway.
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Okay, and it wasn't
either one of your parents?
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No.
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- How often does this happen?
- This is a regular occurrence.
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This is my life.
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You said on the phone that
you had the house blessed.
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I've blessed it, and I also
took Sage and went around.
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- Did it help?
- No. It's like I'm under siege.
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There are so many dead people.
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There's too many. I don't know.
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They make it so you can't live here.
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They, like, run at the door, and
someone in here has blocked them.
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So they can't come in all the time.
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Well, no, it's just
one of them, I guess.
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When she can't get in,
she acts like an animal.
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Who is this?
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One of the weird dead people.
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So, is that something
that might be heard?
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Yeah.
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Steve: Is there anything else?
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There's a woman, an apparition, that
comes and stands in that doorway.
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Okay, describe her for me.
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She's kind of shadowy,
like, kind of black.
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- She's only about this tall.
- Okay.
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And she looks kind of like a black mist.
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- How long she last?
- More than half an hour.
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- What?
- Yeah. She just stands there.
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- Stares at me.
- For a half hour?
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That's the first time in all
these investigations I've ever
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heard anybody tell me more
than a couple of seconds.
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I've walked through her.
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I've come up the stairs
now three or four times,
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and as I turned the corner, she
was there, and I walked through her.
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Feels like the life's
being sucked out of you.
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And the first time it happened...
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The next day, I got
this breathing problem.
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That nobody's been able to figure out.
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The dead, in here, would be
perceived probably as shadow people.
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They're all over.
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I don't know. They're
saying they smother you.
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They smother them up.
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I can't breathe.
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Steve: What's going on here?
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My father fell down these stairs.
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Okay.
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He was coming out of the
bathroom, like, right out here.
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He ended up down there.
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He said he went down
headfirst backwards.
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- Okay, was his feet wet and everything?
- No.
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- No dizzy spells or anything?
- No.
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What did he say happened?
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When we got to the hospital, he
said that somebody pushed him.
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- Did you believe him?
- Oh, yeah, I believed him.
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I mean, he should have broken his neck.
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It's terrifying.
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We had to move his bed from downstairs.
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- After this incident?
- Right.
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I'm just seeing these weird images of,
like, dead bodies, but they're warm.
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They crowd around the house.
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And they're like, if we don't get
any rest, nobody gets any rest.
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And they do move strangely, too.
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- Matthew: How do they move?
- Like zombies.
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And they're like, oh, just you wait.
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[Whispers]
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Steve: So, Adam, I was
talking to your aunt Ann Marie.
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She told me about the stuff that goes
on here, now, did you spend time here?
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- Yeah.
- Okay.
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- I spend a lot of time here, actually.
- Okay.
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She's had a lot of experiences.
What about yourself?
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I've definitely felt
very uneasy around here.
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There's a lot of, like, kind
of weird vibes and energy.
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You know, it's kind of in the air.
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I've seen things that
I can't exactly explain.
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- Like what?
- Halloween of 2011...
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I was playing kind of superstitious
games with my ex-girlfriend.
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And one game is called
Bloody Mary, where you...
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You say the words Bloody Mary
into a mirror three times.
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And we were holding a cross in our hands
to the mirror just because, you know,
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I was kind of superstitious and
didn't want anything to happen.
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Then, the cross just got a little
bit colder and a little bit colder.
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And finally, we just set
it down, put the lights on.
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It was very shocking.
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Let me get this straight.
Were you doing that here?
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- Yeah.
- Where?
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- Upstairs.
- In which room?
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In my aunt's room.
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Does your aunt know about
this cross thing you did?
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Yeah. She's not happy.
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- You blame her?
- No.
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Okay. You know, I think your
aunt had a right to be mad at you.
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- Yeah. I think so, too.
- Yeah, so, she's a sweet lady, so...
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- I know. I love her very dearly.
- Okay.
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I'm very much regretful of it
now. I'm very superstitious.
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Anything else you
might have pulled here?
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- That nobody knows about?
- Not here, no.
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You think you caused all the
problems that are happening?
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I don't know what exactly
to think about all of this.
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But it does seem that way.
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Thinking about all the events
and tying them together,
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I'm just really, like, scared
that maybe I'm responsible.
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[Sighs]
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I mean, I kind of tried
to make up explanations.
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I always try to believe in
a higher power, you know?
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God and something that's good
and loving and protecting.
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And if there's something negative
and wishing ill upon my family,
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I'm very upset about that.
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Right.
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You know, it does sometimes feel
like we're up against something.
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And I don't know... I don't want
to say that definitively, but...
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I'm scared of it.
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There's just some
weird [Bleep] going on.
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Really strange stuff.
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There's, like... somebody's doing,
like, all these seances and stuff.
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But there's... but they
shouldn't be, and they know it.
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Someone religious is doing it.
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Steve, I was talking to
your sister-in-law Ann Marie.
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And she was telling me about the
stuff going on in the house here.
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Yeah.
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She mentions you come over
once in awhile to help out.
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You got to be concerned for your in-laws
I would think, and your sister-in-law.
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I'm always concerned
because they've all been ill.
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I've always sort of
worried about them here.
240
00:14:07,058 --> 00:14:10,259
So, since you spend time here,
have you had an experience?
241
00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:15,265
I have had some sort of uncomfortable
feeling about the house at times.
242
00:14:15,266 --> 00:14:17,173
Okay. Any place in particular?
243
00:14:17,174 --> 00:14:21,289
Well, in the basement, when
I was bracing up the shower,
244
00:14:21,290 --> 00:14:26,276
the next day, I contracted kind of a
numbness throughout my hands and shoulders.
245
00:14:26,277 --> 00:14:29,379
So, did anything go wrong
when you were working?
246
00:14:29,380 --> 00:14:33,567
Nothing that I could say. It was
just pretty much straightforward work.
247
00:14:33,568 --> 00:14:35,518
My fingers are still
numb for the most part.
248
00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:38,698
- Ever since that one time you've been...
- Ever since that time.
249
00:14:38,699 --> 00:14:40,457
It's been three months.
250
00:14:40,458 --> 00:14:42,188
Have you been to a doctor?
251
00:14:42,189 --> 00:14:45,062
Yeah, I've been to several.
They're not sure exactly what it is.
252
00:14:45,063 --> 00:14:46,796
Okay. Anything else?
253
00:14:46,797 --> 00:14:52,217
Sometimes, it feels like there's,
like, a darkness that settles.
254
00:14:52,218 --> 00:14:57,437
It felt like there was a leaning toward,
you know, being more argumentative...
255
00:14:57,438 --> 00:15:01,638
More negative about things in general.
256
00:15:05,046 --> 00:15:07,579
These dead people... they
don't want to talk to me.
257
00:15:07,580 --> 00:15:09,579
They know...
258
00:15:09,580 --> 00:15:13,805
Exactly why the [Bleep] I'm
here, and they do not want it.
259
00:15:13,806 --> 00:15:18,546
They are like, get the
[Bleep] out of here.
260
00:15:18,692 --> 00:15:24,452
Thick... they're thick. They're
pretty [Bleep] strong, man.
261
00:15:24,593 --> 00:15:28,168
The amount of dead people in
this house is overwhelming.
262
00:15:28,169 --> 00:15:30,264
I have no idea why they're all here,
263
00:15:30,265 --> 00:15:36,165
but they hate living people and
have disturbing ways of showing it.
264
00:15:36,925 --> 00:15:38,869
A very emotional house.
265
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:41,079
Matthew: Do you mean that
it affects people's emotions?
266
00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,680
I would think that it might.
267
00:15:45,288 --> 00:15:48,794
Because it's a very angry...
268
00:15:48,795 --> 00:15:51,311
Fearful house.
269
00:15:51,312 --> 00:15:57,212
Everybody's confused in this place.
It's like a freaking madhouse.
270
00:16:00,308 --> 00:16:02,528
[Whispers]
271
00:16:13,474 --> 00:16:17,211
Steve: Ann Marie told me she thinks a
woman committed suicide in her house.
272
00:16:17,212 --> 00:16:20,332
I did some digging, and
her story checks out.
273
00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:22,852
I was actually able to
locate the victim's husband,
274
00:16:22,853 --> 00:16:28,753
and as painful as it is, he's agreed
to tell me exactly what happened.
275
00:16:35,445 --> 00:16:37,746
Well, Ron, thanks for meeting
with me. I appreciate that.
276
00:16:37,747 --> 00:16:38,780
You're welcome.
277
00:16:38,781 --> 00:16:40,659
I'm so sorry to hear
about your wife, Mary.
278
00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:41,850
Yeah.
279
00:16:41,851 --> 00:16:45,106
- I assume you still...
- I think of her a lot.
280
00:16:45,107 --> 00:16:46,961
Okay.
281
00:16:46,962 --> 00:16:49,722
She was my Mary.
282
00:16:50,192 --> 00:16:53,492
This is her right there.
283
00:16:54,541 --> 00:16:59,281
She had a serious bone
disease in her back.
284
00:17:00,801 --> 00:17:04,604
And leading up to her suicide,
her condition got worse?
285
00:17:04,605 --> 00:17:06,070
Yes, it did.
286
00:17:06,071 --> 00:17:09,150
Her back was really deteriorating.
287
00:17:09,151 --> 00:17:13,714
Now, can you, if it's okay with
you, tell me about what happened?
288
00:17:13,715 --> 00:17:19,615
Well, how I remember it, I had
to go to the V.A. hospital...
289
00:17:21,283 --> 00:17:24,343
And uh, I came home.
290
00:17:24,555 --> 00:17:27,915
My dog was going bananas.
291
00:17:28,005 --> 00:17:31,525
And I found her in the dining room.
292
00:17:31,526 --> 00:17:34,649
On the floor, and there was blood.
293
00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:38,790
She had shot herself with my 30-30.
294
00:17:38,984 --> 00:17:40,294
Wow.
295
00:17:40,295 --> 00:17:44,136
I kept my guns loaded, and
I showed her how to use them.
296
00:17:44,137 --> 00:17:46,537
Big mistake.
297
00:17:47,493 --> 00:17:51,731
I should have never
left her alone, but...
298
00:17:51,732 --> 00:17:54,461
- And I know you must feel guilty about it.
- Oh, yes, I do.
299
00:17:54,462 --> 00:18:00,362
When I left that morning, I never
said, goodbye, or, I love you.
300
00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:10,738
Amy: The dead that are here...
they'll just make you miserable.
301
00:18:10,739 --> 00:18:12,959
Miserable.
302
00:18:13,194 --> 00:18:15,228
[Sighs] I just feel like a lot...
303
00:18:15,229 --> 00:18:19,672
There was a lot of bad things
that hap... like, consecutively.
304
00:18:19,673 --> 00:18:21,604
Matthew: Like what?
305
00:18:21,605 --> 00:18:26,585
Like I am definitely
seeing blood on the floor.
306
00:18:28,388 --> 00:18:32,528
Definitely seeing blood on the floor.
307
00:18:34,094 --> 00:18:39,734
Someone's like, yeah, people
met a lot of terrible ends.
308
00:18:42,552 --> 00:18:45,974
Steve: Now that I know someone committed
suicide on my client's property...
309
00:18:45,975 --> 00:18:48,619
I need to see if anything
else went down there.
310
00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:51,862
So I hit the books at the local library.
311
00:18:51,863 --> 00:18:57,208
And the only other death I can
uncover is a guy named Angier Gray.
312
00:18:57,209 --> 00:19:02,249
Turns out he died in my
client's home in 1935.
313
00:19:05,227 --> 00:19:08,551
I want to find out if
there's any more to his story.
314
00:19:08,552 --> 00:19:11,176
I'm on my way to meet with a
local historian who says Gray's
315
00:19:11,177 --> 00:19:17,077
time in Ann Marie's home was
filled with heartbreak and loss.
316
00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:26,546
So, Ernie, during my research, I
came across this guy Angier Gray.
317
00:19:26,547 --> 00:19:28,213
What can you tell me about him?
318
00:19:28,214 --> 00:19:30,725
Angier was a pretty prosperous guy.
319
00:19:30,726 --> 00:19:33,733
He was involved in a lot of
businesses... store keeping.
320
00:19:33,734 --> 00:19:35,661
He was a farmer.
321
00:19:35,662 --> 00:19:41,562
In fact, here's a photo of Angier
with his granddaughter Caroline.
322
00:19:41,863 --> 00:19:45,664
Was he sick? Because he
looks a little emaciated here.
323
00:19:45,665 --> 00:19:49,762
Well, that's what years of
hard work will do for you.
324
00:19:49,763 --> 00:19:53,195
So, now, you had mentioned on the phone
that he had some tragedies in his life.
325
00:19:53,196 --> 00:19:54,730
What were you talking about?
326
00:19:54,731 --> 00:19:57,773
Angier had been given
the farm by his siblings
327
00:19:57,774 --> 00:20:00,736
after his father died
but with a condition.
328
00:20:00,737 --> 00:20:05,374
He had to support his mother
and his brother George.
329
00:20:05,375 --> 00:20:08,601
Who was mentally disabled.
330
00:20:08,602 --> 00:20:12,830
But there was actually a bit of
difficulty between George and Angier.
331
00:20:12,831 --> 00:20:17,691
And in 1911, George
physically assaults Angier.
332
00:20:18,174 --> 00:20:19,422
He leaves.
333
00:20:19,423 --> 00:20:22,420
Angier closes the door and
never allows George back.
334
00:20:22,421 --> 00:20:23,482
Wow.
335
00:20:23,483 --> 00:20:27,822
And Angier was estranged
from the family after that.
336
00:20:27,823 --> 00:20:30,197
Now, do you know what he died of?
337
00:20:30,198 --> 00:20:35,058
He died in the house you're investigating
of apoplexy, which is a stroke.
338
00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:37,826
Ernie, let me ask you a question,
I know a lot of people were buried
339
00:20:37,827 --> 00:20:41,128
on the property they lived on back
in those days, what about Angier?
340
00:20:41,129 --> 00:20:44,512
He wouldn't have been buried there, but
there is something you might want to know.
341
00:20:44,513 --> 00:20:46,740
It's that the house that
you're investigating...
342
00:20:46,741 --> 00:20:51,925
Is either adjacent to or encroaches
on an old village burial ground.
343
00:20:51,926 --> 00:20:54,386
Really? Okay.
344
00:20:58,074 --> 00:21:00,046
There was this man...
345
00:21:00,047 --> 00:21:02,807
And he was mean.
346
00:21:03,042 --> 00:21:05,982
A very mean person.
347
00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:10,041
He's, like, pasty, and...
348
00:21:10,042 --> 00:21:13,207
He looks like an undertaker just...
349
00:21:13,208 --> 00:21:15,188
Nasty.
350
00:21:15,563 --> 00:21:17,626
But he's very here.
351
00:21:17,627 --> 00:21:20,741
Like, he's very much
a part of this house.
352
00:21:20,742 --> 00:21:26,596
It's really strange because I think
he was kind of deserted by his family.
353
00:21:26,597 --> 00:21:28,517
Okay.
354
00:21:32,184 --> 00:21:34,884
He's all alone.
355
00:21:36,425 --> 00:21:38,825
He was bad.
356
00:21:44,614 --> 00:21:46,834
[Whispers]
357
00:21:53,427 --> 00:21:57,164
Ernie said my client's property is
either built on or next to a graveyard.
358
00:21:57,165 --> 00:22:00,742
This could be a huge
development in the case.
359
00:22:00,743 --> 00:22:06,643
I'm on my way to interview a local
cemetery owner to see if it's true.
360
00:22:14,143 --> 00:22:17,289
So, Paul, is it true that
the house I'm investigating...
361
00:22:17,290 --> 00:22:20,489
There might have been a graveyard either
under it or at least right next to it?
362
00:22:20,490 --> 00:22:22,448
Yes. That's true.
363
00:22:22,449 --> 00:22:26,828
In fact, my great-great-great-grandfather
was originally buried there.
364
00:22:26,829 --> 00:22:28,664
He died in 1822.
365
00:22:28,665 --> 00:22:32,234
And he was reburied in this cemetery.
366
00:22:32,235 --> 00:22:34,878
Now, let me ask you a question.
What was a reason they got moved?
367
00:22:34,879 --> 00:22:38,366
There was a concern about water
contamination of the public well
368
00:22:38,367 --> 00:22:42,495
that was immediately across the
road from the graveyard site.
369
00:22:42,496 --> 00:22:45,980
Okay. Now, did they all
get moved to this cemetery?
370
00:22:45,981 --> 00:22:50,731
No. They were moved to a variety
of cemeteries around the town.
371
00:22:50,732 --> 00:22:53,094
- Some were moved to this site.
- Okay.
372
00:22:53,095 --> 00:22:56,479
But there were others in
several other cemeteries.
373
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,359
All right, so, when did this take place?
374
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,778
Well, we know the
cemetery was there in 1860.
375
00:23:01,779 --> 00:23:05,901
I have a map here of
the village in 1860.
376
00:23:05,902 --> 00:23:09,500
And you can see there's
a cemetery marked
377
00:23:09,501 --> 00:23:12,790
adjacent to the home that
you are investigating.
378
00:23:12,791 --> 00:23:15,801
Right, this is the corner, and this
is the cemetery right here, okay.
379
00:23:15,802 --> 00:23:20,322
And this is an 1883
map of the same area.
380
00:23:20,323 --> 00:23:22,717
And you can see there's
no cemetery at that site.
381
00:23:22,718 --> 00:23:25,741
Okay. So, we know it had
to happen between that time.
382
00:23:25,742 --> 00:23:26,765
That's right.
383
00:23:26,766 --> 00:23:31,226
So, how did the moving process work? I
mean, did they just dig the body up and...
384
00:23:31,227 --> 00:23:33,428
Well, they did in some cases.
385
00:23:33,429 --> 00:23:36,304
And in other cases, the bodies may have
386
00:23:36,305 --> 00:23:39,482
not been relocated, may
still be in the ground there.
387
00:23:39,483 --> 00:23:43,307
There have been a number
of bones allegedly found
388
00:23:43,308 --> 00:23:48,408
at the site where this
old burial ground existed.
389
00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:55,001
Somehow, these people are dying here.
390
00:23:55,002 --> 00:23:56,496
Or...
391
00:23:56,497 --> 00:23:58,777
Died here?
392
00:23:59,154 --> 00:24:03,234
It's their home. It's their place.
393
00:24:06,601 --> 00:24:09,841
These dead people are...
394
00:24:10,183 --> 00:24:12,412
Like, none of them are okay.
395
00:24:12,413 --> 00:24:14,591
There's too many of them, and...
396
00:24:14,592 --> 00:24:17,960
They're too sick and too much...
397
00:24:17,961 --> 00:24:20,229
Death, and...
398
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:23,797
Like you can't escape their pain.
399
00:24:23,798 --> 00:24:27,938
There are so many people's thoughts.
400
00:24:31,013 --> 00:24:34,073
It just is not good.
401
00:24:34,846 --> 00:24:37,358
If they did leave the body there,
what was the reason for that?
402
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,394
Well, possibly couldn't find it.
403
00:24:39,395 --> 00:24:42,042
Some of these bodies might not
have had any headstones with them...
404
00:24:42,043 --> 00:24:43,590
- Originally.
- Okay.
405
00:24:43,591 --> 00:24:46,761
In other cases, the families
may have been too poor
406
00:24:46,762 --> 00:24:50,564
to pay for the cost of exhuming
the body and relocating it.
407
00:24:50,565 --> 00:24:53,119
This cemetery was a
privately owned cemetery.
408
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,569
It was not owned by the town.
409
00:24:55,570 --> 00:24:59,672
So, this was a private decision
obviously with community support.
410
00:24:59,673 --> 00:25:02,649
- Because of the water supply issue.
- Okay.
411
00:25:02,650 --> 00:25:05,124
So, if a family member
decided, well, you know what?
412
00:25:05,125 --> 00:25:08,340
I don't have the money or the
means to have the body moved,
413
00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:11,124
even though they moved the cemetery,
the bodies could still be there.
414
00:25:11,125 --> 00:25:12,087
That's true.
415
00:25:12,088 --> 00:25:14,558
Now, would they ever move a
headstone and not the body?
416
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,029
Yes. Headstones are easy to move.
417
00:25:17,030 --> 00:25:19,393
Bodies are much more difficult.
418
00:25:19,394 --> 00:25:24,673
And some of the bones were,
in all likelihood, left behind.
419
00:25:24,674 --> 00:25:29,894
- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
420
00:25:31,609 --> 00:25:36,661
I don't think that they were very
well taken care of when they died.
421
00:25:36,662 --> 00:25:39,596
They were saying, um...
422
00:25:39,597 --> 00:25:44,491
You know, that they are like the true
lost souls, the ones that people have...
423
00:25:44,492 --> 00:25:48,992
Forgotten about or
turned their backs on.
424
00:25:51,992 --> 00:25:53,609
They were discarded.
425
00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:56,910
They're discarded people.
426
00:26:02,851 --> 00:26:06,018
I encountered dozens of
dead people during my walk.
427
00:26:06,019 --> 00:26:07,867
But what has me the most concerned,
428
00:26:07,868 --> 00:26:12,741
is the bizarre scene I saw
in the downstairs bedroom.
429
00:26:12,742 --> 00:26:17,782
You could see their eyes,
like, in the darkness.
430
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:22,663
And there were three on each side and
then the three or four that came forward.
431
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:26,516
To talk to me at the end of the bed.
432
00:26:26,517 --> 00:26:31,077
And they all had,
like, thick, long hair.
433
00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:36,746
Is this what you saw?
434
00:26:36,994 --> 00:26:38,854
Yes.
435
00:26:44,074 --> 00:26:46,294
[Whispers]
436
00:27:01,805 --> 00:27:04,718
Steve: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
437
00:27:04,719 --> 00:27:09,759
we're ready to reveal our findings to each
other and our clients for the first time.
438
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,230
So, Amy, I'd like you to meet
Ann Marie and her nephew Adam.
439
00:27:14,231 --> 00:27:17,875
Ann Marie actually lives
here with her elderly parents.
440
00:27:17,876 --> 00:27:21,798
She believes that whatever's in this
house is making them all very sick.
441
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,246
And is possibly trying to kill them.
442
00:27:25,247 --> 00:27:28,035
Adam's very close to his family
and is worried about them,
443
00:27:28,036 --> 00:27:31,895
but he also believes that he may
have caused what's going on here.
444
00:27:31,896 --> 00:27:37,796
So, with that being said, I'm gonna
ask her to describe her walk for us.
445
00:27:40,089 --> 00:27:42,132
Amy: This was the first time on a walk
446
00:27:42,133 --> 00:27:45,553
that I almost didn't make
it all the way through.
447
00:27:45,554 --> 00:27:47,033
I almost left.
448
00:27:47,034 --> 00:27:50,452
I was overwhelmed with how many dead...
449
00:27:50,453 --> 00:27:53,064
Were located here.
450
00:27:53,065 --> 00:27:56,531
This is a house of the dead.
451
00:27:56,532 --> 00:28:01,692
It's like a purgatory or
a way station for them.
452
00:28:01,948 --> 00:28:03,674
How many dead people are here?
453
00:28:03,675 --> 00:28:06,615
Over 20 in the house and, like...
454
00:28:06,616 --> 00:28:10,098
- God.
- Maybe like 30 or 40 outside.
455
00:28:10,099 --> 00:28:13,188
I may have an explanation
for why you saw so many dead.
456
00:28:13,189 --> 00:28:16,835
This house is either built on or...
457
00:28:16,836 --> 00:28:19,157
Literally right next door to
what used to be a graveyard.
458
00:28:19,158 --> 00:28:20,463
Wow.
459
00:28:20,464 --> 00:28:23,284
I got two maps...
460
00:28:23,469 --> 00:28:27,069
Here, this one is from 1860.
461
00:28:30,992 --> 00:28:34,385
And it shows a cemetery right
here along their property line.
462
00:28:34,386 --> 00:28:37,921
Now, I have another map from 1883...
463
00:28:37,922 --> 00:28:42,062
That shows the cemetery's not there.
464
00:28:43,945 --> 00:28:46,687
- It makes sense.
- So, you all right with that?
465
00:28:46,688 --> 00:28:51,868
I mean, I don't know if you can be all
right with a purgatory of dead people.
466
00:28:51,869 --> 00:28:56,443
There's just so much stuff they didn't tell
us about this house before we bought it.
467
00:28:56,444 --> 00:29:02,344
- I'd be really mad about that were I you.
- That just really, really pisses me off.
468
00:29:03,812 --> 00:29:06,899
There's one male that's here.
469
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:09,360
And he is...
470
00:29:09,812 --> 00:29:12,032
Not okay.
471
00:29:12,652 --> 00:29:17,397
He's, like, pasty, and he
looks like an undertaker...
472
00:29:17,398 --> 00:29:19,738
Just nasty.
473
00:29:20,491 --> 00:29:24,751
He just seemed extremely unwell to me.
474
00:29:25,183 --> 00:29:29,089
But he was very much
estranged from his family.
475
00:29:29,090 --> 00:29:34,620
I might be able to maybe give
you an idea of who it could be.
476
00:29:34,621 --> 00:29:39,106
There was a guy named Angier Gray
that lived here from 1917 to 1935.
477
00:29:39,107 --> 00:29:42,827
I've got his death certificate.
He lived and died in this house.
478
00:29:42,828 --> 00:29:47,208
He died of apoplexy, which is a stroke.
479
00:29:48,757 --> 00:29:52,465
He lived on a farm with his mother
and brother not far from here.
480
00:29:52,466 --> 00:29:54,457
When you said he was
estranged from the family...
481
00:29:54,458 --> 00:29:57,022
Angier had to take care of
his younger brother George,
482
00:29:57,023 --> 00:29:58,613
who was mentally handicapped.
483
00:29:58,614 --> 00:30:01,866
But George got into a physical
fight with him and left the house.
484
00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:05,620
And Angier never let him back in.
485
00:30:05,621 --> 00:30:09,008
That's where the estrangement
comes with the family.
486
00:30:09,009 --> 00:30:11,891
You said the guy reminded
you of, like, an undertaker.
487
00:30:11,892 --> 00:30:15,732
- Yes.
- This is how he looked.
488
00:30:17,741 --> 00:30:22,481
Amy, do you think this
is the guy you saw?
489
00:30:23,387 --> 00:30:24,679
Yeah.
490
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,758
Do you think that this man in
particular is actively trying to harm...
491
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:31,712
Everyone here?
492
00:30:31,713 --> 00:30:33,582
He's contributing.
493
00:30:33,583 --> 00:30:37,653
His emotional state of
being, loneliness, anger...
494
00:30:37,654 --> 00:30:39,670
That radiates out.
495
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,814
Can we be influenced by him?
496
00:30:41,815 --> 00:30:46,195
I think that's a huge possibility, yes.
497
00:30:48,861 --> 00:30:50,930
What else is going on in this house?
498
00:30:50,931 --> 00:30:53,410
The basement, there was...
499
00:30:53,411 --> 00:30:55,767
Four people.
500
00:30:55,768 --> 00:31:00,470
One of the guys from downstairs told me
that all of them were hiding from the law.
501
00:31:00,471 --> 00:31:02,147
He told me he killed somebody.
502
00:31:02,148 --> 00:31:04,858
I think he did it with his hands.
503
00:31:04,859 --> 00:31:06,105
Oh, my God.
504
00:31:06,106 --> 00:31:09,391
Now, the thing is you got a cemetery
that was here from the 1700s.
505
00:31:09,392 --> 00:31:11,812
There's no records on
who was buried here.
506
00:31:11,813 --> 00:31:14,648
I do know that no murderer
lived in the house.
507
00:31:14,649 --> 00:31:18,270
But that doesn't mean that he
might not have been buried here.
508
00:31:18,271 --> 00:31:20,163
You don't like to go
into the basement I could
509
00:31:20,164 --> 00:31:22,786
barely get you down
there to interview you.
510
00:31:22,787 --> 00:31:24,956
I always feel like
someone's grabbing me.
511
00:31:24,957 --> 00:31:25,772
Okay.
512
00:31:25,773 --> 00:31:30,798
Like, it feels like I'm
being attacked from behind.
513
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,383
Adam, can you tell Amy
what physically happened to
514
00:31:33,384 --> 00:31:35,609
your father after he did
the work in the basement?
515
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:39,145
He began to have a lot of
muscle pain in his arms,
516
00:31:39,146 --> 00:31:42,805
and his wrists and his hands, and
he couldn't move his hands anymore.
517
00:31:42,806 --> 00:31:45,446
And no doctor can figure out
what the hell is wrong with him.
518
00:31:45,447 --> 00:31:46,250
Yeah.
519
00:31:46,251 --> 00:31:48,912
Every time someone goes in
the basement, they're ill.
520
00:31:48,913 --> 00:31:53,173
Somebody gets ill or hurt right after.
521
00:31:53,276 --> 00:31:56,253
I don't want to deal
with negative energies.
522
00:31:56,254 --> 00:32:00,054
It's bad enough having people among
the living that are jerks, you know?
523
00:32:00,055 --> 00:32:03,542
Amy: Well, the dead in this
house are very angry for a reason.
524
00:32:03,543 --> 00:32:08,388
They felt that the living had turned
them away and turned their backs on them.
525
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:12,904
And that they were not well
taken care of when they died.
526
00:32:12,905 --> 00:32:18,059
They feel like they're true lost
souls and that they cannot be saved.
527
00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:20,828
This is where I can probably help
you out with why they're so angry.
528
00:32:20,829 --> 00:32:26,254
Now, when the cemetery was moved,
a lot of bodies were left behind.
529
00:32:26,255 --> 00:32:31,602
Back then, the family would
have to pay to move the body.
530
00:32:31,603 --> 00:32:34,600
A lot of people didn't have the money,
so they ripped the headstones off,
531
00:32:34,601 --> 00:32:38,921
and their bodies were just left behind.
532
00:32:42,437 --> 00:32:44,069
What else did you see?
533
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:48,950
I was seeing seances down here
trying to communicate with the dead.
534
00:32:48,951 --> 00:32:52,380
Several of these people
over the years knew that they
535
00:32:52,381 --> 00:32:57,075
really should not be doing
this, but they did it anyways.
536
00:32:57,076 --> 00:32:59,130
Remember when I told you,
537
00:32:59,131 --> 00:33:02,873
that Adam feels he may be responsible
for what's going on over here?
538
00:33:02,874 --> 00:33:05,195
Adam, why don't you tell
her what you told me?
539
00:33:05,196 --> 00:33:09,320
On Halloween of 2011,
me and my ex-girlfriend,
540
00:33:09,321 --> 00:33:14,291
we were, you know, just playing around,
doing, you know, spooky Halloween things.
541
00:33:14,292 --> 00:33:17,531
And in the upstairs bedroom,
we played Bloody Mary.
542
00:33:17,532 --> 00:33:20,235
Yeah, I know what Bloody Mary is.
543
00:33:20,236 --> 00:33:22,960
A lot of the dead feel here,
544
00:33:22,961 --> 00:33:26,180
you know, the disrespect feeling
like they're in purgatory.
545
00:33:26,181 --> 00:33:30,935
There's a lot of animosity here,
so don't blame yourself for that.
546
00:33:30,936 --> 00:33:34,779
I feel more of a clear
conscience that it's not me,
547
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:38,138
but I feel terrible about these
people who feel like they're outcasted.
548
00:33:38,139 --> 00:33:40,679
- Yeah.
- Right.
549
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,329
Also, in the upstairs bedroom...
550
00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:47,869
The dead... they couldn't
get into the room.
551
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:50,872
The interesting thing was
I saw, like, a barrier up.
552
00:33:50,873 --> 00:33:54,551
One particular dead person, who's a
female, she gets crazy, and she'll, like,
553
00:33:54,552 --> 00:33:58,879
act like an animal and run down the
hallway and, like, try to get in the room.
554
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,378
And the dead woman was pissed.
555
00:34:02,379 --> 00:34:04,468
Wow, that freaks me out.
556
00:34:04,469 --> 00:34:10,056
Because I Saged all the rooms
upstairs, and I did do a blessing.
557
00:34:10,057 --> 00:34:14,130
So, her Saging upstairs, could that have
been what stopped the woman from coming in?
558
00:34:14,131 --> 00:34:16,795
- Mm hmm.
- Are they mad at her for that?
559
00:34:16,796 --> 00:34:18,656
Yes.
560
00:34:19,609 --> 00:34:23,903
I did do a sketch of the
dead down here in this room.
561
00:34:23,904 --> 00:34:26,099
They really unnerved me.
562
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:29,200
They were congregating...
563
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:31,044
And it was all around the bed.
564
00:34:31,045 --> 00:34:32,178
Oh, my God.
565
00:34:32,179 --> 00:34:34,948
And that's where Ann Marie's dad sleeps.
566
00:34:34,949 --> 00:34:36,929
Right.
567
00:34:46,293 --> 00:34:50,230
Just don't freak out. But just...
568
00:34:50,231 --> 00:34:52,631
Oh, my God.
569
00:34:58,989 --> 00:35:02,806
These are the people who
feel lost, who feel discarded.
570
00:35:02,807 --> 00:35:06,333
They're very angry, and unfortunately,
571
00:35:06,334 --> 00:35:10,982
they're trying to become,
like, these inhuman creatures.
572
00:35:10,983 --> 00:35:14,711
Now, one of the main reasons,
her breaking point for calling
573
00:35:14,712 --> 00:35:17,456
us in is an incident that
happened here with her father.
574
00:35:17,457 --> 00:35:18,790
Tell her what happened.
575
00:35:18,791 --> 00:35:23,293
My father was coming out
of the bathroom, and he...
576
00:35:23,294 --> 00:35:25,664
Fell down the stairs
backwards headfirst.
577
00:35:25,665 --> 00:35:27,153
Oh, my gosh.
578
00:35:27,154 --> 00:35:30,949
And when we got to the hospital...
579
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:34,008
He said he was pushed.
580
00:35:34,009 --> 00:35:37,045
Seeing him in that state
and seeing all the bruises,
581
00:35:37,046 --> 00:35:41,912
and all the trauma it caused,
it was just really awful.
582
00:35:41,913 --> 00:35:44,987
Could they have pushed
her father down the stairs?
583
00:35:44,988 --> 00:35:47,388
I think so.
584
00:35:47,820 --> 00:35:50,344
Tell her about what you see upstairs.
585
00:35:50,345 --> 00:35:54,696
In my doorway of my bedroom,
it was definitely shadowy.
586
00:35:54,697 --> 00:35:56,794
I think it's a woman.
587
00:35:56,795 --> 00:36:00,957
Never crosses the doorway
but stands and stares.
588
00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:03,087
And I mean for like
30 minutes at a time.
589
00:36:03,088 --> 00:36:04,335
Mm-hmm.
590
00:36:04,336 --> 00:36:07,037
And then, I have walked through her.
591
00:36:07,038 --> 00:36:09,407
It feels like it kind of
sucks the life out of me.
592
00:36:09,408 --> 00:36:12,525
The day after I walked through her...
593
00:36:12,526 --> 00:36:14,795
- I came down with a breathing problem.
- Okay.
594
00:36:14,796 --> 00:36:17,304
That they have not been able
to figure out what it is.
595
00:36:17,305 --> 00:36:20,579
- Probably the one that you blocked out.
- That's horrible.
596
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:23,580
What am I gonna do?
597
00:36:26,303 --> 00:36:30,695
So, here's how the living might
be affected by the dead here.
598
00:36:30,696 --> 00:36:35,234
The dead truly believe that there
should not be living people here.
599
00:36:35,235 --> 00:36:39,246
Two things that these guys
do is that they will...
600
00:36:39,247 --> 00:36:42,171
Make you very ill here.
601
00:36:42,172 --> 00:36:45,311
And they want to smother you.
602
00:36:45,312 --> 00:36:49,746
And that's one of the ways
that they'll try to attack.
603
00:36:49,747 --> 00:36:53,605
I can't walk more than 20
feet without being out of air.
604
00:36:53,606 --> 00:36:59,306
It's like somebody, like,
kicked the air out of my body.
605
00:36:59,622 --> 00:37:04,090
I really feel like this
house is trying to kill us.
606
00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:09,163
They told me they won't allow
anything to live here, nothing.
607
00:37:09,164 --> 00:37:12,884
It scares me to death, really.
608
00:37:14,384 --> 00:37:16,460
It's so hard to live in this house.
609
00:37:16,461 --> 00:37:21,141
Yeah, it just feels
like it never lets up.
610
00:37:29,422 --> 00:37:31,642
[Whispers]
611
00:37:35,627 --> 00:37:39,277
Ann Marie: I really feel like
this house is trying to kill us.
612
00:37:39,278 --> 00:37:44,296
They told me they won't allow
anything to live here, nothing.
613
00:37:44,297 --> 00:37:47,552
It scares me to death, really.
614
00:37:47,553 --> 00:37:49,621
It's so hard to live in this house.
615
00:37:49,622 --> 00:37:54,302
Yeah, it just feels
like it never lets up.
616
00:37:56,528 --> 00:37:58,567
Now, have you seen anything else?
617
00:37:58,568 --> 00:38:01,714
Amy: No. That's the gist of it.
618
00:38:01,715 --> 00:38:05,459
Well, there's one major event
that did take place in this house.
619
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:09,229
There was a woman that lived here in
1997 by the name of Mary Frechette.
620
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:12,799
She shot and killed
herself right in this room.
621
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,943
So, when I spoke to her husband, Ron...
622
00:38:15,944 --> 00:38:19,206
I asked him to explain what happened, he
said he came home from the V.A. hospital,
623
00:38:19,207 --> 00:38:22,357
and he found her in a pool of blood.
624
00:38:22,358 --> 00:38:26,557
She had been sick, you know?
Her lifestyle was deteriorating.
625
00:38:26,558 --> 00:38:28,547
So, when you said you
thought somebody had died,
626
00:38:28,548 --> 00:38:31,452
you know, committed
suicide, you were right.
627
00:38:31,453 --> 00:38:34,872
Any ideas why you
might not have seen her?
628
00:38:34,873 --> 00:38:39,374
I just lost a friend recently to
suicide, and he shot himself in the head.
629
00:38:39,375 --> 00:38:41,990
So, that's probably
why I didn't see that.
630
00:38:41,991 --> 00:38:45,699
Sometimes, we'll block out
things we don't want to perceive.
631
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:47,403
Okay.
632
00:38:47,404 --> 00:38:49,670
That was just a week and a half ago.
633
00:38:49,671 --> 00:38:51,260
- Yeah.
- Ann Marie: I'm sorry.
634
00:38:51,261 --> 00:38:53,601
Yeah. Okay.
635
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:57,079
[Sighs]
636
00:38:57,269 --> 00:38:59,789
That happened.
637
00:39:02,573 --> 00:39:04,530
- Okay.
- [Sniffles]
638
00:39:04,531 --> 00:39:08,611
- You all right?
- Yeah, I'm fine.
639
00:39:16,837 --> 00:39:21,099
Steve: Well, I know you guys have been hit
with a lot of horrific information tonight.
640
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,998
But, Ann Marie, now you
know why your family's
641
00:39:23,999 --> 00:39:25,911
been going through hell
since you've been here.
642
00:39:25,912 --> 00:39:28,016
The question is how do you fix it.
643
00:39:28,017 --> 00:39:33,917
For that answer, I'm gonna
turn it over to my partner, Amy.
644
00:39:38,186 --> 00:39:41,846
What I'm going to say, um...
645
00:39:41,886 --> 00:39:46,291
It's kind of difficult for me
because on the one hand I feel...
646
00:39:46,292 --> 00:39:51,595
Very sorry for these people, but
they kind of damned themselves.
647
00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:54,068
They've done that via attempted murder.
648
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:58,814
We have to proceed as if they
were some type of a demonic...
649
00:39:58,815 --> 00:40:00,975
Presence.
650
00:40:02,228 --> 00:40:07,848
They are not demons, but they
have become a type of evil.
651
00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:10,737
The first thing is to move them on.
652
00:40:10,738 --> 00:40:14,757
And it has to be a religious,
holy person, so, you know,
653
00:40:14,758 --> 00:40:18,478
it could be a minister, a priest, you
know, whatever you feel comfortable with.
654
00:40:18,479 --> 00:40:22,151
Sit down with that person, tell
them exactly what happened here.
655
00:40:22,152 --> 00:40:25,268
So that they can then
perform whatever...
656
00:40:25,269 --> 00:40:28,640
Religious ceremonies they need to.
657
00:40:28,641 --> 00:40:31,754
This person will move
the good people on?
658
00:40:31,755 --> 00:40:32,887
Right.
659
00:40:32,888 --> 00:40:38,788
The other thing is is that you are
going to have to have an exorcism done.
660
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,320
Of the land and the house.
661
00:40:49,091 --> 00:40:50,490
Okay.
662
00:40:50,491 --> 00:40:55,763
Steve: You all right? You didn't want
to hear that word exorcism, did you?
663
00:40:55,764 --> 00:40:59,866
I like to believe that
no one is beyond saving.
664
00:40:59,867 --> 00:41:04,038
Well, in this case, you got to fight
fire with fire, kid. You know what I mean?
665
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:06,808
They are fully conscious individuals.
666
00:41:06,809 --> 00:41:09,778
They know what they're doing,
and they know right from wrong.
667
00:41:09,779 --> 00:41:11,246
And they're hurting my family.
668
00:41:11,247 --> 00:41:15,484
And they made a decision, and
that decision is unacceptable.
669
00:41:15,485 --> 00:41:17,748
- It scares me because...
- Mm hmm.
670
00:41:17,749 --> 00:41:20,355
This is a real thing.
671
00:41:20,356 --> 00:41:22,624
It's all very overwhelming.
672
00:41:22,625 --> 00:41:24,596
I'm sorry.
673
00:41:24,597 --> 00:41:28,788
I'm digging into a bottomless
pit in my heart here.
674
00:41:28,789 --> 00:41:31,727
I... I'm terrified.
675
00:41:31,728 --> 00:41:33,022
You're up for the fight?
676
00:41:33,023 --> 00:41:36,386
Yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna let
it kill my family or me, either.
677
00:41:36,387 --> 00:41:38,438
Are you gonna buck up, or
are you gonna sit there...
678
00:41:38,439 --> 00:41:42,014
Adam: Yeah. No, I'm
ready to kill the [Bleep].
679
00:41:42,015 --> 00:41:47,895
But let's go in with compassion
and then go for the fight.
680
00:41:49,463 --> 00:41:53,782
The entities inside this house will stop
at nothing to torment the living here.
681
00:41:53,783 --> 00:41:57,326
But I believe if Ann Marie and
her family follow my advice...
682
00:41:57,327 --> 00:42:03,227
They'll free themselves from the
evil that's been haunting them.
683
00:42:06,041 --> 00:42:07,721
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