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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:10,060 --> 00:00:13,571 He murdered somebody, and he's laughing about it. 3 00:00:13,572 --> 00:00:16,323 There's something here that wants me to die. 4 00:00:16,324 --> 00:00:18,325 It seems like a devil. 5 00:00:18,326 --> 00:00:20,069 I refused to believe it. 6 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:24,631 This thing is the possessor, people worshiped it. 7 00:00:24,632 --> 00:00:26,533 This is the worst case I've ever heard. 8 00:00:26,534 --> 00:00:29,986 I just want to not be afraid anymore. 9 00:00:29,987 --> 00:00:33,287 [Amy] It can take souls. 10 00:00:33,899 --> 00:00:35,688 It's really bad in here. 11 00:00:35,689 --> 00:00:38,329 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:38,330 --> 00:00:40,647 Something is not right. 13 00:00:40,648 --> 00:00:41,855 I see dead people. 14 00:00:41,856 --> 00:00:44,045 This person might've been a serial killer. 15 00:00:44,046 --> 00:00:45,830 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:45,831 --> 00:00:47,598 You get those chills. 17 00:00:47,599 --> 00:00:49,166 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:49,167 --> 00:00:51,435 He is darkness, he is evil. 19 00:00:51,436 --> 00:00:54,485 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:54,486 --> 00:00:56,006 I think she broke her neck. 21 00:00:56,007 --> 00:00:57,708 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:57,709 --> 00:01:01,987 I'm Steve Dischiavi, I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 23 00:01:01,988 --> 00:01:03,415 You telling me the truth? 24 00:01:03,416 --> 00:01:06,337 I know every person, every house, has secrets. 25 00:01:06,338 --> 00:01:08,339 I think the Devil is down here. 26 00:01:08,340 --> 00:01:09,619 It's my job to reveal them. 27 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:11,073 Who the hell would do this? 28 00:01:11,074 --> 00:01:13,090 But Steve and I never speak. 29 00:01:13,091 --> 00:01:15,234 We never communicate during an investigation. 30 00:01:15,235 --> 00:01:16,786 Until the very end. 31 00:01:16,787 --> 00:01:18,096 Who's he looking to kill? 32 00:01:18,097 --> 00:01:20,043 Then we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 33 00:01:20,044 --> 00:01:22,186 You need to get out of here right now. 34 00:01:22,187 --> 00:01:23,351 Or time to get out. 35 00:01:23,352 --> 00:01:26,952 It was like endless darkness. 36 00:01:42,303 --> 00:01:46,565 [Steve] Amy and I conduct our investigations separately. 37 00:01:46,566 --> 00:01:51,960 I interview living witnesses, experts, and dig through the property's dark past. 38 00:01:51,961 --> 00:01:56,581 While Amy communicates with the other side. 39 00:01:57,444 --> 00:02:01,221 I'm in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, heading over to see a woman named Jodi. 40 00:02:01,222 --> 00:02:03,275 The activity in her home is so bad, 41 00:02:03,276 --> 00:02:06,807 she and her husband are getting attacked on a daily basis. 42 00:02:06,808 --> 00:02:09,754 She wants to sell, but he wants to stay and fight. 43 00:02:09,755 --> 00:02:15,655 She says if Amy and I can't help her out, she thinks her marriage is done for. 44 00:02:19,732 --> 00:02:23,078 [Matthew] Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 45 00:02:23,079 --> 00:02:28,941 This home has a lot of family photos that have to be covered or removed. 46 00:02:28,942 --> 00:02:34,842 Once they're gone, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 47 00:02:46,225 --> 00:02:49,261 [Amy] I just see, like, a woman off in the distance. 48 00:02:49,262 --> 00:02:54,002 She has very, like, Native American features. 49 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:00,318 I don't think she's well. 50 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:03,619 She has a lot of anger. 51 00:03:08,881 --> 00:03:11,430 So this woman that I was talking about earlier... 52 00:03:11,431 --> 00:03:16,362 Says that she just wanted everyone to understand... 53 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:21,500 Like, she didn't betray them or mean to hurt anyone, but that, 54 00:03:21,501 --> 00:03:25,566 at the same time, they needed to learn a lesson. 55 00:03:25,567 --> 00:03:29,347 She feels like they deserve it. 56 00:03:34,574 --> 00:03:38,762 [Steve] So Jodi, I'm glad I'm here, because things sounded pretty bad on the phone. 57 00:03:38,763 --> 00:03:41,163 It's rough. 58 00:03:44,217 --> 00:03:47,547 [Voice breaking] It's really rough. 59 00:03:47,548 --> 00:03:52,408 Because I feel like nobody believes me, and... 60 00:03:53,159 --> 00:03:58,896 You try to tell people, and they look at you like you're crazy. 61 00:03:58,897 --> 00:04:01,032 Listen, we're here to help, okay? 62 00:04:01,033 --> 00:04:04,162 All right? We're here to help you, so... 63 00:04:04,163 --> 00:04:08,173 It's gonna be okay, okay? We're gonna see what we can do. 64 00:04:08,174 --> 00:04:10,454 All right? 65 00:04:10,663 --> 00:04:12,778 Okay, so who lives here with you, your husband? 66 00:04:12,779 --> 00:04:14,780 Just me and my husband. 67 00:04:14,781 --> 00:04:18,728 - How long have you guys been here? - We've lived here since 2004. 68 00:04:18,729 --> 00:04:20,648 I didn't even want to live in this house. 69 00:04:20,649 --> 00:04:24,137 Okay, why'd you call us now, though? 70 00:04:24,138 --> 00:04:27,318 Because of the attacks. 71 00:04:28,084 --> 00:04:31,431 They are more frequent now. 72 00:04:31,432 --> 00:04:33,531 I'm touched every day... 73 00:04:33,532 --> 00:04:36,209 It's just constant. 74 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:39,622 I'm hearing things throughout the house, I... 75 00:04:39,623 --> 00:04:42,143 See shadows... 76 00:04:42,354 --> 00:04:45,170 And it's gotten... 77 00:04:45,171 --> 00:04:49,285 To the point where I just feel like I'm being followed everywhere I go. 78 00:04:49,286 --> 00:04:51,774 I go take a shower... 79 00:04:51,775 --> 00:04:57,370 And it actually feels like somebody has climbed in the shower with me. 80 00:04:57,371 --> 00:05:01,190 I feel like something has attached itself to me. 81 00:05:01,191 --> 00:05:05,226 I worry about what's gonna happen to me. 82 00:05:05,227 --> 00:05:08,062 I never know what's gonna happen from day to day. 83 00:05:08,063 --> 00:05:11,003 I just don't know. 84 00:05:13,841 --> 00:05:19,479 The Native American woman, she follows this person around. 85 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,968 Can you talk about the person she's... 86 00:05:21,969 --> 00:05:25,218 - Talking to? - Um, living person... 87 00:05:25,219 --> 00:05:27,453 Seems to be a female... 88 00:05:27,454 --> 00:05:30,454 Um, probably about... 89 00:05:31,077 --> 00:05:32,815 Forties? 90 00:05:32,816 --> 00:05:35,370 I'm not sure what she wants from her. 91 00:05:35,371 --> 00:05:39,554 I just know that she is with her a lot. 92 00:05:39,555 --> 00:05:41,885 Because, I mean, I see them, like, in the kitchen together, 93 00:05:41,886 --> 00:05:44,237 I see them showering together, I see them... 94 00:05:44,238 --> 00:05:47,091 You know, her in the room at night. 95 00:05:47,092 --> 00:05:52,012 The dead girl is not helping the living woman. 96 00:05:55,383 --> 00:05:57,451 What's going on in here? 97 00:05:57,452 --> 00:06:02,072 I saw an apparition walk past the doorway. 98 00:06:02,524 --> 00:06:05,678 And they were wearing blue jeans and boots. 99 00:06:05,679 --> 00:06:08,374 So what are we talking about, like cowboy boots, or like work boots? 100 00:06:08,375 --> 00:06:10,379 They look like work boots. 101 00:06:10,380 --> 00:06:12,501 - Now, was it a man or a woman? - It was a man. 102 00:06:12,502 --> 00:06:15,240 Okay, so have you seen anything else like that? 103 00:06:15,241 --> 00:06:18,419 I've seen, like, a dark shadow of a figure. 104 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:23,468 I just see it out of the corner of my eye, and it's like you turn, and it's gone. 105 00:06:23,469 --> 00:06:26,534 Now, let me ask you a question, what do you think is going on in this house? 106 00:06:26,535 --> 00:06:29,608 I feel like there's something here that... 107 00:06:29,609 --> 00:06:32,369 Wants me to die. 108 00:06:34,359 --> 00:06:37,119 [Amy] The thing that I'm seeing looks like what's depicted 109 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,232 in the Catholic religion as a devil. 110 00:06:41,233 --> 00:06:46,304 To me, it looks like it has long nails, and evil and [Bleep]. 111 00:06:46,305 --> 00:06:50,909 It's saying that it can take as many souls as it likes. 112 00:06:50,910 --> 00:06:53,728 Like, I'm like, "what are you?" And he's like, "I am the darkness". 113 00:06:53,729 --> 00:06:56,348 [Matthew] How would people experience him? 114 00:06:56,349 --> 00:06:59,581 It's solid, she's definitely seen it. 115 00:06:59,582 --> 00:07:01,881 [Matthew] Can it hurt people? 116 00:07:01,882 --> 00:07:04,468 It's saying it can and it will. 117 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:10,229 [Amy] It's a trickster, it's a liar, it's a manipulator. 118 00:07:17,436 --> 00:07:22,507 So, Jodi, why'd you bring me in the basement, what's going on here? 119 00:07:22,508 --> 00:07:27,180 I've seen an apparition of an Indian sitting right there. 120 00:07:27,181 --> 00:07:28,989 Talking about like a Native American Indian? 121 00:07:28,990 --> 00:07:32,817 [Jodi] Yes. It looked like he was dressed, like, ready for war. 122 00:07:32,818 --> 00:07:35,271 Okay, are you experiencing anything else down here? 123 00:07:35,272 --> 00:07:38,185 Um, yeah, I hear... 124 00:07:38,186 --> 00:07:40,561 What sounds like... 125 00:07:40,562 --> 00:07:42,388 Hammers... 126 00:07:42,389 --> 00:07:44,619 Boards being moved. 127 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:48,637 I want to describe it as almost like somebody working on the house. 128 00:07:48,638 --> 00:07:52,103 You have that feeling of uneasiness down here, I can see it just looking at you. 129 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:55,097 Yeah, I... don't even want to be here right now. 130 00:07:55,098 --> 00:07:57,089 Okay, all right, so why don't we get out of here? 131 00:07:57,090 --> 00:08:01,830 You've spent enough time down here with me. 132 00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:05,701 One of the things it likes to do is... [nails scratching against wood] 133 00:08:05,702 --> 00:08:07,532 That. 134 00:08:07,533 --> 00:08:11,154 Yeah, [Bleep] Around with the doors. 135 00:08:11,155 --> 00:08:15,295 I think this thing is the possessor. 136 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,308 The thing says that, you know, people worshiped it. 137 00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:22,177 The Native Americans, they would allow it inside of them 138 00:08:22,178 --> 00:08:27,878 to do things because that was the way to keep the peace. 139 00:08:30,142 --> 00:08:35,782 I think it would oftentimes kill the person it possessed. 140 00:08:41,319 --> 00:08:44,127 [Steve] Okay, Jodi, so what's going on up here? 141 00:08:44,128 --> 00:08:49,198 As soon as I turn my light off to try to close my eyes and go to sleep... 142 00:08:49,199 --> 00:08:52,078 That's when it gets worse. 143 00:08:52,079 --> 00:08:55,434 Are you getting physically touched up here? 144 00:08:55,435 --> 00:08:59,036 [Voice breaking] I've had some stuff happen to me up here. 145 00:08:59,037 --> 00:09:02,294 Like, almost like somebody's... 146 00:09:02,295 --> 00:09:06,129 Trying to wake me up in an arousal kind of way. 147 00:09:06,130 --> 00:09:07,514 Okay. 148 00:09:07,515 --> 00:09:13,415 And you toss, you turn, you move, you... you know, you say, "get away from me"... 149 00:09:13,739 --> 00:09:18,857 And before you know it, something is over me that you can't see. 150 00:09:18,858 --> 00:09:21,858 - Okay. - And I was, um... 151 00:09:21,859 --> 00:09:24,019 Attacked. 152 00:09:24,436 --> 00:09:26,155 Sexually. 153 00:09:26,156 --> 00:09:28,142 Have you told anybody this? 154 00:09:28,143 --> 00:09:33,634 I tried to tell my husband about it, and I don't feel like he believes... 155 00:09:33,635 --> 00:09:35,936 What happened to me. 156 00:09:35,937 --> 00:09:41,517 [Voice breaking] Um, it's just real hard to talk about. 157 00:09:42,113 --> 00:09:46,362 I imagine that's gotta be the most horrific thing for a woman to have to deal with. 158 00:09:46,363 --> 00:09:50,488 When I was a young girl, I was sexually assaulted. 159 00:09:50,489 --> 00:09:52,489 How old were you when this happened? 160 00:09:52,490 --> 00:09:56,426 Um... I was about 12 years old. [Sniffles] 161 00:09:56,427 --> 00:09:59,246 Okay, look at me, okay? 162 00:09:59,247 --> 00:10:05,147 So you can trust me, alright I'm listening to everything you're telling me, okay? 163 00:10:05,419 --> 00:10:09,266 I just want it to end, I just want to not... 164 00:10:09,267 --> 00:10:12,210 Be afraid in my own house anymore. 165 00:10:12,211 --> 00:10:16,959 It's so hard, because I spend so much time in this house, alone. 166 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,385 I'm gonna make this okay, all right? Come here, I promise. 167 00:10:20,386 --> 00:10:22,996 I'm gonna make this right, we're gonna figure it out, okay? 168 00:10:22,997 --> 00:10:26,957 - Mm hm. - Don't worry about it. 169 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,849 [Amy] I think it can do vile things. 170 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:34,632 - Like what? - Inappropriate... 171 00:10:34,633 --> 00:10:37,104 Sexual things, sometimes. 172 00:10:37,105 --> 00:10:41,850 And it's very traumatizing and scary for this person, as I... 173 00:10:41,851 --> 00:10:44,131 Understand. 174 00:10:50,282 --> 00:10:52,781 I hear somebody in this room, a female. 175 00:10:52,782 --> 00:10:56,819 She's mad, she's very angry, she feels attacked. 176 00:10:56,820 --> 00:11:00,965 She's being messed with by the... uh, the thing. 177 00:11:00,966 --> 00:11:03,530 It's found her secrets, and it's like... 178 00:11:03,531 --> 00:11:07,043 Messing with her mind through her secrets or something. 179 00:11:07,044 --> 00:11:10,221 And she's like, can't take it anymore, she's like... 180 00:11:10,222 --> 00:11:11,686 [Sighs] 181 00:11:11,687 --> 00:11:14,317 She's very stressed out. 182 00:11:14,318 --> 00:11:16,738 I feel like it's saying, like, "you know I'm a part of you, 183 00:11:16,739 --> 00:11:22,079 you know you're a part of me, I'm gonna get you". 184 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:26,381 [Whispers] 185 00:11:30,916 --> 00:11:34,636 [Amy] She's very stressed out. 186 00:11:35,387 --> 00:11:37,848 I feel like it's saying, like, "you know I'm a part of you, 187 00:11:37,849 --> 00:11:43,189 you know you're a part of me, I'm gonna get you". 188 00:11:44,175 --> 00:11:47,825 So it's mentally abusing her, I guess. 189 00:11:47,826 --> 00:11:51,366 Is this thing targeting her? 190 00:11:51,388 --> 00:11:53,788 Yes, it is. 191 00:12:00,291 --> 00:12:03,226 Patrick, let me ask you a question, do you know any history of the house? 192 00:12:03,227 --> 00:12:07,413 A little bit, I did read a few things about some... 193 00:12:07,414 --> 00:12:10,897 The American Indians in this area. 194 00:12:10,898 --> 00:12:14,581 There was a lot of fighting with other tribes in this... 195 00:12:14,582 --> 00:12:17,069 This particular valley. 196 00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:20,211 - So Patrick, I talked to your wife, Jodi. - Mm. 197 00:12:20,212 --> 00:12:25,252 And I've done a lot of these cases, and she... 198 00:12:25,747 --> 00:12:27,859 She's having a tough time here. 199 00:12:27,860 --> 00:12:30,682 I mean, at first, I really... 200 00:12:30,683 --> 00:12:34,511 Didn't believe any of it, I refused to believe it. 201 00:12:34,512 --> 00:12:36,282 Are you still refusing to believe it? 202 00:12:36,283 --> 00:12:38,803 Um, I can't. 203 00:12:39,153 --> 00:12:40,830 What do you mean you can't? 204 00:12:40,831 --> 00:12:45,977 Me and Jodi was in the living room talking, and... 205 00:12:45,978 --> 00:12:47,927 We decided to turn the TV off. 206 00:12:47,928 --> 00:12:50,616 So when I turned it off... 207 00:12:50,617 --> 00:12:55,537 I saw a man sitting on the arm of her chair. 208 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,072 And I told her, I said, "Jodi, do you see this?" 209 00:12:58,073 --> 00:13:00,354 She says, "what?" I said, "look in the TV". 210 00:13:00,355 --> 00:13:02,653 And I looked over at her, and I looked back, it was gone. 211 00:13:02,654 --> 00:13:04,568 There was nothing there, just her reflection. 212 00:13:04,569 --> 00:13:06,570 What'd he look like? 213 00:13:06,571 --> 00:13:09,340 He had... I want to call it a farmer's hat. 214 00:13:09,341 --> 00:13:11,764 It looked like he had a beard. 215 00:13:11,765 --> 00:13:15,776 He looked angry, and it scared me. 216 00:13:15,777 --> 00:13:18,802 So what you're telling me is that you're not a skeptic of what's 217 00:13:18,803 --> 00:13:21,289 going on, you believe there's something going on in your house. 218 00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:23,221 Yeah, I know there's something going on here. 219 00:13:23,222 --> 00:13:25,326 But yet at the same time, your wife seems to think 220 00:13:25,327 --> 00:13:27,225 you're not believing anything she's telling you. 221 00:13:27,226 --> 00:13:29,522 - When Jodi was attacked... - Right. 222 00:13:29,523 --> 00:13:32,106 And I came home... 223 00:13:32,107 --> 00:13:34,387 She was... 224 00:13:35,003 --> 00:13:36,635 In, I would say, a state of shock, 225 00:13:36,636 --> 00:13:40,579 I mean, she was just white as a ghost, she was trembling, she was upset. 226 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:44,708 Well, I went off, and I called 'em all out. 227 00:13:44,709 --> 00:13:48,312 I said, "look, if you're this bad and you're this tough, show yourself". 228 00:13:48,313 --> 00:13:49,750 Okay, so what happened? 229 00:13:49,751 --> 00:13:54,251 I woke up with bruises on my lower back. 230 00:14:02,093 --> 00:14:05,662 And I can't figure out what he is. 231 00:14:05,663 --> 00:14:11,563 It seems like he keeps that form, like, that look of, like, a devil. 232 00:14:13,471 --> 00:14:18,511 [Amy] He also likes to make people feel trapped. 233 00:14:35,259 --> 00:14:37,327 I don't know, like, he's up in the... 234 00:14:37,328 --> 00:14:39,548 Up, up... 235 00:14:43,167 --> 00:14:47,121 He's saying, like, he murdered somebody or something. 236 00:14:47,122 --> 00:14:50,662 And he's laughing about it. 237 00:14:52,176 --> 00:14:54,945 [Patrick] My main concern right now is my wife. 238 00:14:54,946 --> 00:14:58,182 She sobbed when I spoke with her, sobbed. 239 00:14:58,183 --> 00:15:01,741 I can't give her answers, and she keeps asking me, 240 00:15:01,742 --> 00:15:04,744 and, you know, when I can't answer, what do you do? 241 00:15:04,745 --> 00:15:09,050 - Right. - That's why I spend so much time out here. 242 00:15:09,051 --> 00:15:11,709 It's breaking my heart, the both of you, I mean, 243 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:14,416 it sounds like you two aren't communicating. 244 00:15:14,417 --> 00:15:16,901 You want to help, you just don't know how. 245 00:15:16,902 --> 00:15:22,063 It's went downhill, it's went downhill fast, faster than we want. 246 00:15:22,064 --> 00:15:24,671 But we don't know what to do to fix it. 247 00:15:24,672 --> 00:15:26,907 She's concerned that the house is gonna kill her. 248 00:15:26,908 --> 00:15:28,768 Wow. 249 00:15:29,966 --> 00:15:33,950 She's been attacked, and attacked in ways that nobody should be attacked. 250 00:15:33,951 --> 00:15:38,155 I think it wants... whatever it is wants to hurt her again. 251 00:15:38,156 --> 00:15:40,081 Like I said, I'm not... 252 00:15:40,082 --> 00:15:44,861 I don't want to say dead, because I don't want to see that happen, but... 253 00:15:44,862 --> 00:15:50,762 This is the worst case I've ever heard as far as paranormal stuff. 254 00:15:50,954 --> 00:15:53,670 - Can we take a break? - Yeah, absolutely. 255 00:15:53,671 --> 00:15:58,231 - I'm sorry. [Sniffles] - It's all right. 256 00:16:01,145 --> 00:16:03,845 [Sobbing quietly] 257 00:16:14,481 --> 00:16:17,661 [Patrick exhales loudly] 258 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,700 [Whispers] 259 00:16:35,507 --> 00:16:39,192 Patrick told me there were some violent Native American wars on his property. 260 00:16:39,193 --> 00:16:42,094 Now, most times client leads turn out to be a dead end, 261 00:16:42,095 --> 00:16:44,389 but this one I want to check out. 262 00:16:44,390 --> 00:16:46,248 I've reached out to a local historian to see 263 00:16:46,249 --> 00:16:50,929 if there's any truth to what Patrick said. 264 00:16:54,793 --> 00:16:59,776 So my client told me that the land I'm investigating, where his house is, 265 00:16:59,777 --> 00:17:02,636 at one time there was warring Native Americans, is that correct? 266 00:17:02,637 --> 00:17:04,351 That's correct. 267 00:17:04,352 --> 00:17:08,067 There was a treaty signed in 1768. 268 00:17:08,068 --> 00:17:13,269 And that delineated Native American property from white settler property. 269 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:17,780 But the white settlers didn't always obey those guidelines, 270 00:17:17,781 --> 00:17:21,441 and so they were squatting on Native American property. 271 00:17:21,442 --> 00:17:24,357 And that includes the property I'm investigating? 272 00:17:24,358 --> 00:17:26,024 - That's right. - Okay. 273 00:17:26,025 --> 00:17:29,159 Well, the Senecas went on a rampage. 274 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,862 In part because the British had prompted them, they had given them guns, 275 00:17:33,863 --> 00:17:36,083 they had given them ammunition. 276 00:17:36,084 --> 00:17:40,038 And the Native Americans began these attacks to 277 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:45,421 antagonize the white settlers to move them off the property. 278 00:17:45,422 --> 00:17:48,128 How many white settlers did get killed during these conflicts? 279 00:17:48,129 --> 00:17:50,993 There are at least 370 documented. 280 00:17:50,994 --> 00:17:52,638 Now who was in charge of these guys? 281 00:17:52,639 --> 00:17:56,659 They were led by Chief Cornplanter. 282 00:17:56,828 --> 00:17:59,233 He was a very peaceful man. 283 00:17:59,234 --> 00:18:02,236 He didn't sound so peaceful after what you just told me. 284 00:18:02,237 --> 00:18:05,541 I think, perhaps, he was a reluctant warrior. 285 00:18:05,542 --> 00:18:09,569 He loved his nation, he loved his tribe, and so... 286 00:18:09,570 --> 00:18:15,470 He decided to go along, of course, with the majority, and the majority ruled. 287 00:18:18,287 --> 00:18:20,567 [Footsteps] 288 00:18:21,821 --> 00:18:24,322 [Amy] So now I'm seeing this guy. 289 00:18:24,323 --> 00:18:26,153 I think it's a Native American. 290 00:18:26,154 --> 00:18:28,074 Um... 291 00:18:28,627 --> 00:18:32,227 He has feathers in his hair. 292 00:18:33,010 --> 00:18:36,310 I think he feels guilty. 293 00:18:40,572 --> 00:18:46,243 There's only so much that you want to see your enemies fall to revenge. 294 00:18:46,244 --> 00:18:50,175 I think he thinks he needs to make things right. 295 00:18:50,176 --> 00:18:52,656 [Amy] This Native American knows all about the Devil creature 296 00:18:52,657 --> 00:18:54,535 I've been seeing throughout the house. 297 00:18:54,536 --> 00:18:57,826 And he's telling me his people had to deal with it, too. 298 00:18:57,827 --> 00:19:02,093 He's saying people worshiped it, and, um... 299 00:19:02,094 --> 00:19:04,794 But not anymore. 300 00:19:05,997 --> 00:19:10,723 You know, you have to do things for this devil. 301 00:19:10,724 --> 00:19:15,344 Otherwise, it will do uncontrollable things. 302 00:19:16,474 --> 00:19:19,142 Now let me ask you a question about the property I'm investigating. 303 00:19:19,143 --> 00:19:22,612 Any of those attacks happen right on my property? 304 00:19:22,613 --> 00:19:26,225 - Well, June 10, 1778... - Okay. 305 00:19:26,226 --> 00:19:30,360 The Plum Tree Massacre, as it's widely known, occurred. 306 00:19:30,361 --> 00:19:32,256 Okay, what happened? 307 00:19:32,257 --> 00:19:35,813 There was a wagon-load of 16 settlers, 308 00:19:35,814 --> 00:19:39,411 and there were Native Americans of the Seneca tribe. 309 00:19:39,412 --> 00:19:43,490 They were concealed in a group of plum trees. 310 00:19:43,491 --> 00:19:48,307 And so when the wagon passed through, the Native Americans attacked. 311 00:19:48,308 --> 00:19:51,909 So 16 settlers go through, and they get ambushed, were they all killed? 312 00:19:51,910 --> 00:19:55,655 Twelve were massacred... there were two children who were killed. 313 00:19:55,656 --> 00:20:00,453 Two of the people were women, they were both scalped and stabbed... 314 00:20:00,454 --> 00:20:03,809 Tomahawked, and left for dead. 315 00:20:03,810 --> 00:20:06,708 And two of the girls were kidnapped. 316 00:20:06,709 --> 00:20:08,176 Do you know what happened to them? 317 00:20:08,177 --> 00:20:10,864 I know that they were taken to Canada. 318 00:20:10,865 --> 00:20:13,567 I don't know the rest of the story. 319 00:20:13,568 --> 00:20:15,488 Okay. 320 00:20:16,315 --> 00:20:19,015 [Grass crunching] 321 00:20:19,072 --> 00:20:22,141 I'm hearing a lot of... 322 00:20:22,142 --> 00:20:24,722 Gunfire nearby. 323 00:20:25,536 --> 00:20:28,200 And this man, he's hiding. 324 00:20:28,201 --> 00:20:31,967 He's crouched down, and he's, like, shivering. 325 00:20:31,968 --> 00:20:35,748 And he's hearing all of the... 326 00:20:35,878 --> 00:20:39,238 The fighting and gunshots. 327 00:20:42,095 --> 00:20:45,864 It was unexpected... whatever happened was completely unexpected. 328 00:20:45,865 --> 00:20:51,203 Women are screaming and running, people are running all over the place. 329 00:20:51,204 --> 00:20:56,030 Men are yelling at each other and shooting each other and shooting people... 330 00:20:56,031 --> 00:21:00,351 Somebody's yelling about the apocalypse. 331 00:21:06,215 --> 00:21:08,435 [Whispers] 332 00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:18,945 I definitely want to follow up on what happened to the 333 00:21:18,946 --> 00:21:21,477 two young girls kidnapped on my client's property. 334 00:21:21,478 --> 00:21:23,287 I'm heading over to meet with a local author 335 00:21:23,288 --> 00:21:28,208 who says the story had a very dramatic ending. 336 00:21:35,151 --> 00:21:38,498 So I understand there was this Plum Tree Massacre on the property I'm investigating 337 00:21:38,499 --> 00:21:40,520 and that two young girls were actually kidnapped 338 00:21:40,521 --> 00:21:42,964 by the Native Americans that did that massacre. 339 00:21:42,965 --> 00:21:44,426 What can you tell me about that? 340 00:21:44,427 --> 00:21:49,053 The two girls' names were Ruth and Sarah King, age 2 and 4. 341 00:21:49,054 --> 00:21:52,484 Their father's name was William King, he was a member of the militia, 342 00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:56,899 the colonial militia, and he was out of the area when the massacre took place. 343 00:21:56,900 --> 00:22:02,404 But the mother, Rachel, was gruesomely killed in front of her two daughters. 344 00:22:02,405 --> 00:22:05,577 But, for some reason, these girls were spared 345 00:22:05,578 --> 00:22:09,235 and taken up the Sheshequin Trail to Canada. 346 00:22:09,236 --> 00:22:12,206 - Okay. - The younger child, Ruth... 347 00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:17,798 Was sold to the wife of a British officer who apparently couldn't have children. 348 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:20,779 And we don't know for sure what happened to her sister Sarah, 349 00:22:20,780 --> 00:22:23,581 but she did survive, and she was in the area there. 350 00:22:23,582 --> 00:22:26,571 Okay, so now, William King comes back 351 00:22:26,572 --> 00:22:29,547 and found out his wife was murdered and his two kids were missing. 352 00:22:29,548 --> 00:22:32,188 That's correct. 353 00:22:33,007 --> 00:22:35,611 There's this man... 354 00:22:35,612 --> 00:22:37,689 I feel like he's alone. 355 00:22:37,690 --> 00:22:40,980 I think maybe his wife is dead. 356 00:22:40,981 --> 00:22:45,421 Uh, and maybe his children are far away. 357 00:22:45,469 --> 00:22:49,517 There's also, like, a woman off in the distance. 358 00:22:49,518 --> 00:22:53,718 Like, I kinda get "escapee" with her. 359 00:22:54,323 --> 00:22:57,367 She has a lot of anger. 360 00:22:57,368 --> 00:23:00,353 Definitely a lost soul, that's for sure. 361 00:23:00,354 --> 00:23:02,487 So what happened with the kids? 362 00:23:02,488 --> 00:23:06,351 Well, their father never totally gave up hope that he'd find them. 363 00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:09,516 And seven years after the massacre happened he, 364 00:23:09,517 --> 00:23:12,500 found out where they were, and so he set out to retrieve them. 365 00:23:12,501 --> 00:23:16,868 He found an Indian guide to take him north towards Fort Niagara. 366 00:23:16,869 --> 00:23:17,809 Okay. 367 00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:20,201 Somehow, he recovers the two children 368 00:23:20,202 --> 00:23:23,334 and brings them back down to the Williamsport area. 369 00:23:23,335 --> 00:23:26,126 And led what appeared to be a fairly normal life. 370 00:23:26,127 --> 00:23:31,060 'Til, in 1802, he had an accident on the river, a creek, he fell in, 371 00:23:31,061 --> 00:23:35,305 got paralyzed, and it lingered for several days, and died. 372 00:23:35,306 --> 00:23:38,846 - Huh. - At the age of 57. 373 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,191 [Steve] I'm heading to the local library to find 374 00:23:42,192 --> 00:23:45,897 anything else I can about my client's property. 375 00:23:45,898 --> 00:23:48,948 Searching through the archives... 376 00:23:48,949 --> 00:23:53,233 I discovered the Lord family lived there for generations. 377 00:23:53,234 --> 00:23:57,656 Turns out, a lot of the family members died on my client's land. 378 00:23:57,657 --> 00:23:59,578 But a local genealogist tells me 379 00:23:59,579 --> 00:24:04,919 a couple of those deaths might help my investigation. 380 00:24:11,605 --> 00:24:16,278 Now, the Lord family owned the property I'm investigating for a pretty long time. 381 00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:20,719 Yes, nearly 80 years, from 1882 to 1961. 382 00:24:20,929 --> 00:24:25,369 Now, of all the deaths on this property, you said a couple of them are unusual. 383 00:24:25,370 --> 00:24:29,662 Oh, yes, there were two sisters. The first was Sarah Bricker... 384 00:24:29,663 --> 00:24:33,055 She lived in the house out back of the property. 385 00:24:33,056 --> 00:24:38,615 And, in 1903, she came over to visit her sister next door. 386 00:24:38,616 --> 00:24:41,609 - Okay. - And just fell over dead. 387 00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:42,747 From what? 388 00:24:42,748 --> 00:24:47,570 What we would now say is stroke or a cerebral hemorrhage. 389 00:24:47,571 --> 00:24:50,996 Okay, so Sarah was 40 years old, which was young, even for back then. 390 00:24:50,997 --> 00:24:52,559 Yes. 391 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,746 Then, ten years later, her sister, Amanda Lord, 392 00:24:56,747 --> 00:24:59,371 passes away suddenly of the same thing. 393 00:24:59,372 --> 00:25:01,162 Wow. 394 00:25:01,163 --> 00:25:05,634 Okay, so ten years apart, two sisters die from the same illness... 395 00:25:05,635 --> 00:25:08,691 - On the same property. - Yes. 396 00:25:08,692 --> 00:25:11,392 That is unusual. 397 00:25:18,569 --> 00:25:21,138 It's a sickness here. 398 00:25:21,139 --> 00:25:23,187 Someone died in this room. 399 00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:25,948 Very ill, female. 400 00:25:27,078 --> 00:25:29,839 This woman, she crawls... 401 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,620 Into the ceiling and disappears. 402 00:25:36,231 --> 00:25:41,331 So she doesn't have any interaction with anybody. 403 00:25:41,803 --> 00:25:46,074 Her pain is still something that is here. 404 00:25:46,075 --> 00:25:48,955 In a physical way. 405 00:25:49,502 --> 00:25:54,722 She's like, "oh, you know, bad, bad, it was bad". 406 00:26:00,790 --> 00:26:03,941 [Amy] There were several entities that stood out during my walk. 407 00:26:03,942 --> 00:26:05,977 But what has me the most concerned 408 00:26:05,978 --> 00:26:09,995 is the Devil creature that's tormenting a living woman. 409 00:26:09,996 --> 00:26:14,316 This thing was coming out of a closet. 410 00:26:16,838 --> 00:26:22,418 And it was pitch black, but its skin was, like, glossy. 411 00:26:23,912 --> 00:26:28,832 And there was a woman who was yelling at him. 412 00:26:31,619 --> 00:26:34,739 Is this what you saw? 413 00:26:35,224 --> 00:26:37,084 Yes. 414 00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:44,195 [Whispers] 415 00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:03,305 [Steve] Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations... 416 00:27:03,306 --> 00:27:08,345 We're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 417 00:27:08,346 --> 00:27:11,697 Well, Amy, I gotta tell ya, this is probably one of the 418 00:27:11,698 --> 00:27:14,834 hardest cases I've ever worked on. 419 00:27:14,835 --> 00:27:17,464 I want to introduce you to Jodi and Patrick. 420 00:27:17,465 --> 00:27:19,165 They're a married couple that live here. 421 00:27:19,166 --> 00:27:21,902 Listening to their stories was pretty gut-wrenching for me. 422 00:27:21,903 --> 00:27:26,431 Bottom line, Jodi thinks there's something in this house that's trying to kill them. 423 00:27:26,432 --> 00:27:28,775 And kill her specifically. 424 00:27:28,776 --> 00:27:31,623 It's tearing their marriage apart. 425 00:27:31,624 --> 00:27:35,100 They called us in because we're their last hope so, with that being said, 426 00:27:35,101 --> 00:27:40,981 I'm gonna ask Amy to tell us a little bit about her walk. 427 00:27:43,398 --> 00:27:48,738 I'm definitely aware that there's a lot of issues here, and, um... 428 00:27:48,739 --> 00:27:53,032 We'll get into everything slowly but surely. 429 00:27:53,033 --> 00:27:56,813 I went to the back yard, and... 430 00:27:56,814 --> 00:27:59,187 I saw a lot of... 431 00:27:59,188 --> 00:28:03,801 Really odd, like, violent and chaotic images. 432 00:28:03,802 --> 00:28:05,824 I was hearing gunfire. 433 00:28:05,825 --> 00:28:09,075 It wasn't just men, you know, I heard women screaming. 434 00:28:09,076 --> 00:28:12,309 I think I saw a woman get shot. 435 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:16,658 Whatever was happening had just come out of nowhere. 436 00:28:16,659 --> 00:28:18,868 A lot of what you're saying is something I uncovered 437 00:28:18,869 --> 00:28:21,612 and that you had pointed me in the direction of. 438 00:28:21,613 --> 00:28:24,266 You gotta know something about this property we're on, Amy. 439 00:28:24,267 --> 00:28:28,707 It was the scene of fierce battles of... 440 00:28:28,808 --> 00:28:32,702 Native Americans against white settlers. 441 00:28:32,703 --> 00:28:36,601 On June 10 in 1778, right on this property... 442 00:28:36,602 --> 00:28:39,029 There was an event called the Plum Tree Massacre. 443 00:28:39,030 --> 00:28:41,884 And when that massacre was over, men, women, 444 00:28:41,885 --> 00:28:47,585 and children were murdered, all shot, stabbed, and scalped. 445 00:28:47,834 --> 00:28:50,030 Where did the Native Americans live? 446 00:28:50,031 --> 00:28:51,546 [Steve] Here, this is their land. 447 00:28:51,547 --> 00:28:56,341 White settlers were breaking a treaty that was set in 1768. 448 00:28:56,342 --> 00:29:00,637 [Amy] Well, a lot of other stuff I got is totally making sense now, so... 449 00:29:00,638 --> 00:29:03,098 [Steve] Okay. 450 00:29:03,765 --> 00:29:06,482 At one point, I went into the basement, and, 451 00:29:06,483 --> 00:29:10,569 I encountered a Native American man. 452 00:29:10,570 --> 00:29:14,230 He said that he feels guilty. 453 00:29:15,015 --> 00:29:18,458 And he feels like, you know, you can only want 454 00:29:18,459 --> 00:29:22,239 so much agony for your enemies. 455 00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:25,746 Now, Jodi, you saw a Native American man in the basement, as well, right? 456 00:29:25,747 --> 00:29:28,384 - Yes. - Describe that for Amy for me. 457 00:29:28,385 --> 00:29:31,484 He was sitting... what looked like he was sitting on top 458 00:29:31,485 --> 00:29:34,861 of the pipe in the back room of the basement. 459 00:29:34,862 --> 00:29:38,525 The brown pants, um, I could see the white feathers. 460 00:29:38,526 --> 00:29:44,426 I turned to walk away and turned back around, and he was gone. 461 00:29:45,466 --> 00:29:50,283 Who I think both of you might have encountered is, um... 462 00:29:50,284 --> 00:29:52,781 This guy Chief Cornplanter. 463 00:29:52,782 --> 00:29:55,703 He was the war Chief for the Seneca tribe. 464 00:29:55,704 --> 00:29:57,572 This is a portrait. 465 00:29:57,573 --> 00:30:00,997 Cornplanter is his Indian name translated. 466 00:30:00,998 --> 00:30:02,858 Wow. 467 00:30:03,958 --> 00:30:06,050 [Steve] He was considered a peaceful man. 468 00:30:06,051 --> 00:30:08,955 He didn't want to be part of any kind of fighting. 469 00:30:08,956 --> 00:30:13,722 But after his tribe made a treaty with the British Army, he became a violent killer. 470 00:30:13,723 --> 00:30:19,623 He's responsible for killing at least 370 men, women, and children in this area. 471 00:30:20,889 --> 00:30:24,323 Even though he was a peaceful man, he turned into one of the bloodiest killers... 472 00:30:24,324 --> 00:30:29,013 - Which makes sense. - So, is this who you think you saw? 473 00:30:29,014 --> 00:30:34,174 - I think it could be, yes, I do. - [Steve] Okay. 474 00:30:35,088 --> 00:30:39,203 [Amy] I also ran into a Native American woman. 475 00:30:39,204 --> 00:30:41,411 Unfortunately, the other thing I got was that 476 00:30:41,412 --> 00:30:44,739 she actually had attached herself to you. 477 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:48,557 Like, I literally kinda saw her, like, holding your arm. 478 00:30:48,558 --> 00:30:51,206 She even, like, goes into the bath with you. 479 00:30:51,207 --> 00:30:56,362 Like, she just doesn't really leave you alone, she's always kind of by your side. 480 00:30:56,363 --> 00:31:02,263 And I would think that you would feel her presence, because she's always on you. 481 00:31:03,411 --> 00:31:07,851 Everywhere I go in this house, I feel... 482 00:31:07,864 --> 00:31:12,563 It feels like somebody else's energy around me, constantly. 483 00:31:12,564 --> 00:31:18,267 Anywhere I sit, it just feels like somebody is with me, sharing my body. 484 00:31:18,268 --> 00:31:21,923 It's just everywhere I go. I go to bed at night... 485 00:31:21,924 --> 00:31:24,454 Somebody's there. 486 00:31:24,455 --> 00:31:27,152 I'm just not ever alone. 487 00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:32,137 I tried to tell my family what was going on in my house, 488 00:31:32,138 --> 00:31:35,678 and they all laughed at me. 489 00:31:35,682 --> 00:31:38,048 And ridiculed me. 490 00:31:38,049 --> 00:31:43,949 I don't go to family functions, because I know what they say about me behind my back. 491 00:31:44,308 --> 00:31:48,632 Plus she doesn't think that Patrick actually believes anything she says. 492 00:31:48,633 --> 00:31:51,637 [Amy] I understand people who are skeptics because, 493 00:31:51,638 --> 00:31:55,116 I think that when they lash out like that, it's... 494 00:31:55,117 --> 00:31:58,231 Based out of fear and ignorance. 495 00:31:58,232 --> 00:32:03,152 I've gotta see things in order to believe it. 496 00:32:03,664 --> 00:32:07,711 It's been a tremendous strain on our family. 497 00:32:07,712 --> 00:32:12,347 It's been almost three years that we've been putting up with this, the... 498 00:32:12,348 --> 00:32:14,371 The ridicule. 499 00:32:14,372 --> 00:32:17,850 But this is your wife and your partner in your life. 500 00:32:17,851 --> 00:32:21,237 You need to stand by her side and... 501 00:32:21,238 --> 00:32:25,918 Screw the people who are calling her names. 502 00:32:26,371 --> 00:32:29,962 [Jodi] I get so angry, because he goes... 503 00:32:29,963 --> 00:32:32,563 [Voice breaking] He goes and he leaves me sitting here. 504 00:32:32,564 --> 00:32:35,909 Knowin' how they feel about me. 505 00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:40,230 And it's very hard to sit here alone. 506 00:32:40,544 --> 00:32:43,319 And I can't do anything with them. 507 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,580 Because, because they think I'm crazy. 508 00:32:48,415 --> 00:32:52,065 [Patrick] You see right now, I mean, it's tearing me up right now. 509 00:32:52,066 --> 00:32:55,486 Because she's so tore up. 510 00:32:56,983 --> 00:32:59,484 I know this has been a pretty tough night already, 511 00:32:59,485 --> 00:33:01,759 but I think, Amy, you have more stuff? 512 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,560 I also came into contact with another entity. 513 00:33:07,568 --> 00:33:09,488 It... 514 00:33:09,793 --> 00:33:15,296 Showed itself to me at one point to look like a traditional... 515 00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:18,537 Out-of-the-Bible devil. 516 00:33:18,657 --> 00:33:23,817 The truer self of it was, like, this very tall... 517 00:33:24,682 --> 00:33:28,343 Um, completely black but with, like, shiny skin. 518 00:33:28,344 --> 00:33:31,964 And it had long, like, fingers and nails. 519 00:33:31,965 --> 00:33:34,776 And little horns, and, um... 520 00:33:34,777 --> 00:33:37,342 It can show itself in different ways. 521 00:33:37,343 --> 00:33:41,981 A Native American female told me that this... 522 00:33:41,982 --> 00:33:46,602 Thing had been here for a very long time. 523 00:33:47,598 --> 00:33:50,076 How would they see it is what I'm curious about? 524 00:33:50,077 --> 00:33:54,080 I would think some kind of blackness. 525 00:33:54,081 --> 00:33:59,981 I see a lot of dark figure shadows moving through the kitchen. 526 00:34:00,381 --> 00:34:03,981 And a lot up in my bedroom. 527 00:34:04,242 --> 00:34:07,661 It seemed to me that he was focusing on you. 528 00:34:07,662 --> 00:34:13,267 He had found whatever weakness he perceives from you, about you. 529 00:34:13,268 --> 00:34:17,228 He was psychologically abusing you. 530 00:34:17,363 --> 00:34:23,263 He was grabbing and licking you and doing inappropriate sexual things to you. 531 00:34:24,339 --> 00:34:30,239 [Voice breaking] I was sexually assaulted several times in the house. 532 00:34:30,854 --> 00:34:35,806 I've been traumatized and basically terrorized for three years. 533 00:34:35,807 --> 00:34:41,544 I feel something standing over me when I'm in my bed, and... 534 00:34:41,545 --> 00:34:43,945 I'm scared. 535 00:34:47,596 --> 00:34:50,240 How you doing over there? 536 00:34:50,241 --> 00:34:53,996 The day that she was attacked, that I came home... 537 00:34:53,997 --> 00:34:58,084 I went through this house, screaming. 538 00:34:58,085 --> 00:35:01,364 And I called whatever it was... 539 00:35:01,365 --> 00:35:04,319 "You want something to deal with, come get me". 540 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,980 And I woke up with bruises... 541 00:35:08,399 --> 00:35:10,799 On my back. 542 00:35:10,869 --> 00:35:13,482 That's one of the things I can't... 543 00:35:13,483 --> 00:35:15,523 Debunk. 544 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:23,489 It's hard for me to be intimate with my own husband because... 545 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,560 Of what happened to me. 546 00:35:29,090 --> 00:35:33,349 She shared with me, when she was younger, much younger, she was... 547 00:35:33,350 --> 00:35:37,820 - I was gonna ask, right. - Sexually assaulted by a family member. 548 00:35:37,821 --> 00:35:43,161 - She doesn't have a support system. - She does now. 549 00:35:45,412 --> 00:35:50,764 I did do a sketch of what I saw upstairs in your room, and... 550 00:35:50,765 --> 00:35:54,665 It seemed to be that you were... 551 00:35:54,889 --> 00:35:59,329 Very angry and stressed out at the time. 552 00:36:03,614 --> 00:36:06,014 Oh, [Bleep]. 553 00:36:12,924 --> 00:36:15,084 [Sobbing] 554 00:36:25,527 --> 00:36:28,849 I just want my life back. 555 00:36:28,850 --> 00:36:31,370 [Jodi sobbing] 556 00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:34,306 Jodi, come here. 557 00:36:37,581 --> 00:36:39,921 [Jodi sobs] 558 00:36:44,939 --> 00:36:47,159 [Whispers] 559 00:36:51,407 --> 00:36:56,975 [Amy] I did do a sketch of what I saw upstairs in your room, and... 560 00:36:56,976 --> 00:37:00,876 It seemed to be that you were... 561 00:37:01,528 --> 00:37:05,968 Very angry and stressed out at the time. 562 00:37:09,931 --> 00:37:12,331 Oh, [Bleep]. 563 00:37:21,322 --> 00:37:23,482 [Sobbing] 564 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,500 [Jodi] I just want my life back. 565 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:43,940 [Jodi sobbing] 566 00:37:45,745 --> 00:37:49,225 Come here, Jodi, come here. 567 00:37:51,161 --> 00:37:53,819 [Patrick] Put your arms around me, Jodi, please. 568 00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:55,500 _. 569 00:37:57,224 --> 00:38:00,025 [Jodi, sobbing] Nobody believed me. 570 00:38:00,026 --> 00:38:03,055 [Patrick] Who cares? [Bleep] 'Em. 571 00:38:03,056 --> 00:38:04,736 _. 572 00:38:06,566 --> 00:38:08,996 Look at me... 573 00:38:08,997 --> 00:38:12,897 We will take care of this, okay? 574 00:38:13,974 --> 00:38:16,442 [Patrick] I love you. 575 00:38:16,443 --> 00:38:18,903 [Jodi crying] 576 00:38:24,818 --> 00:38:27,038 You okay? 577 00:38:29,328 --> 00:38:32,059 What is this thing? 578 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,883 This thing says that... 579 00:38:34,884 --> 00:38:38,304 It has taken souls before. 580 00:38:39,364 --> 00:38:43,984 It says that it has and will hurt people. 581 00:38:45,737 --> 00:38:49,242 And it stated, you know that he's a part of you 582 00:38:49,243 --> 00:38:53,070 and you're a part of him and that he's going to get you. 583 00:38:53,071 --> 00:38:57,034 He was also trying to project bad images 584 00:38:57,035 --> 00:39:00,389 or dreams or something to you to try to make you hurt yourself. 585 00:39:00,390 --> 00:39:05,856 And that's part of the manipulation that he was doing. 586 00:39:05,857 --> 00:39:09,708 Now listen, Jodi, Patrick, this has gotta be... 587 00:39:09,709 --> 00:39:13,281 One of the most extremely emotional nights you've ever been through. 588 00:39:13,282 --> 00:39:17,412 I know it has been for me when it comes to working these cases. 589 00:39:17,413 --> 00:39:20,271 But Jodi, now you know you're not crazy, 590 00:39:20,272 --> 00:39:23,104 and you're actually in a fight against something that's real. 591 00:39:23,105 --> 00:39:27,445 Now, the big question, is there anything you can do about it? And can you live a... 592 00:39:27,446 --> 00:39:31,775 Normal life and get your marriage back on track? 593 00:39:31,776 --> 00:39:36,897 For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy and see what she has to say. 594 00:39:36,898 --> 00:39:39,275 After the walk... 595 00:39:39,276 --> 00:39:41,492 I did some research. 596 00:39:41,493 --> 00:39:45,426 Because I came into contact with so many Native Americans... 597 00:39:45,427 --> 00:39:49,562 I wanted to see if there was anything in their history 598 00:39:49,563 --> 00:39:54,104 that would clarify maybe what this could be. 599 00:39:54,105 --> 00:39:57,152 What I came across was... 600 00:39:57,153 --> 00:40:02,069 Something that tribes referred to as the clown... 601 00:40:02,070 --> 00:40:05,430 The trickster, and heyoka. 602 00:40:06,421 --> 00:40:08,700 It was a human. 603 00:40:08,701 --> 00:40:14,401 But they also felt that it was half man and half spirit. 604 00:40:14,867 --> 00:40:19,187 It's very possible that this entity... 605 00:40:19,191 --> 00:40:21,830 Was a human being. 606 00:40:21,831 --> 00:40:25,907 At one point and was part of a tribe. 607 00:40:25,908 --> 00:40:31,068 And when he died, he became the embodiment of it. 608 00:40:31,207 --> 00:40:32,967 So how do they get rid of this thing? 609 00:40:32,968 --> 00:40:37,728 First thing is, you should contact your local Native American tribe. 610 00:40:37,729 --> 00:40:40,183 That would be the Seneca tribe for this area. 611 00:40:40,184 --> 00:40:44,249 [Amy] And you want to connect with the Shaman. 612 00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:46,887 Let them know everything that's been going on, 613 00:40:46,888 --> 00:40:51,699 and then allow them to do whatever ceremony they think is necessary. 614 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:57,292 Being raised Catholic and listening to everything and seeing what I saw... 615 00:40:57,293 --> 00:41:00,421 Part of me wants to still... 616 00:41:00,422 --> 00:41:04,037 Follow the train of thought that this is some type of demon. 617 00:41:04,038 --> 00:41:09,130 The next day, I would like you to have someone from your church 618 00:41:09,131 --> 00:41:13,969 come to your home and perform an exorcism of the house. 619 00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:16,662 What about this woman that's attached to her, what happens with her? 620 00:41:16,663 --> 00:41:21,133 [Amy] As you start doing an exorcism this... 621 00:41:21,134 --> 00:41:24,801 Native American male will remove her. 622 00:41:24,802 --> 00:41:27,538 I don't think I have to ask you if you're gonna take Amy's advice. 623 00:41:27,539 --> 00:41:30,421 I'm definitely gonna do everything she told me to do. 624 00:41:30,422 --> 00:41:32,836 I just want this gone, I want... 625 00:41:32,837 --> 00:41:35,985 I want to be able to live in my home in peace 626 00:41:35,986 --> 00:41:40,835 and not have to worry about this when I lay my head down at night. 627 00:41:40,836 --> 00:41:44,976 I can't say I'm a skeptic anymore. 628 00:41:48,919 --> 00:41:51,699 [Amy] I'm not sure whether it will be the Shaman or the exorcism 629 00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,318 that will get rid of these evil entities. 630 00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:57,912 But if they follow my advice and perform these two rituals... 631 00:41:57,913 --> 00:42:03,813 Jodi and Patrick will finally be free and able to live in peace again. 632 00:42:05,628 --> 00:42:07,308 _. 633 00:42:11,391 --> 00:42:13,059 _. 634 00:42:13,060 --> 00:42:18,960 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. 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