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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:10,544 --> 00:00:13,779 This dark thing was not a good person. 3 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:16,682 Our daughter, she was in sheer terror. 4 00:00:16,683 --> 00:00:18,551 He will pitch a fit. 5 00:00:18,552 --> 00:00:20,304 You got a lot of activity. 6 00:00:20,305 --> 00:00:22,152 The women here, he wants to kill 'em. 7 00:00:22,153 --> 00:00:25,155 He stands by the foot of my bed. 8 00:00:25,156 --> 00:00:27,257 He's like a stalker. 9 00:00:27,258 --> 00:00:29,126 Both of their children died. 10 00:00:29,127 --> 00:00:31,006 It hurts, like, here. 11 00:00:31,007 --> 00:00:33,829 We can't live like this any longer. 12 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:38,570 This person might have been a serial killer. 13 00:00:38,970 --> 00:00:41,201 They're being watched. 14 00:00:41,202 --> 00:00:44,109 My name is Amy Allan. 15 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:46,360 This thing likes death. 16 00:00:46,361 --> 00:00:48,002 I see dead people. 17 00:00:48,003 --> 00:00:49,578 This thing is, like, a monster. 18 00:00:49,579 --> 00:00:51,781 I speak to dead people. 19 00:00:51,782 --> 00:00:53,322 And he's pissed off now. 20 00:00:53,323 --> 00:00:54,768 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:54,769 --> 00:00:56,388 His head was cracked. 22 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:59,441 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:59,442 --> 00:01:01,491 This guy was murdered. 24 00:01:01,492 --> 00:01:02,910 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:02,911 --> 00:01:06,265 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 26 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:08,983 I cannot help you unless I know the whole story. 27 00:01:08,984 --> 00:01:12,076 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 28 00:01:12,077 --> 00:01:14,989 You saw her? It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:14,990 --> 00:01:16,142 Why would you stay here? 30 00:01:16,143 --> 00:01:18,266 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:18,267 --> 00:01:20,250 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:20,251 --> 00:01:21,662 Until the very end. 33 00:01:21,663 --> 00:01:23,436 Stop it. 34 00:01:23,437 --> 00:01:25,600 We uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:25,601 --> 00:01:28,006 I want to know the truth. I want to know what's happening. 36 00:01:28,007 --> 00:01:29,361 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:29,362 --> 00:01:34,702 [Crying] I told you there were ghosts in this house. 38 00:01:48,023 --> 00:01:52,918 Steve: Amy and I never cross paths during an investigation. 39 00:01:52,919 --> 00:01:54,594 I interview living witnesses and look for 40 00:01:54,595 --> 00:01:58,657 dark secrets buried in the property's past... 41 00:01:58,658 --> 00:02:02,560 While Amy communicates with the dead. 42 00:02:02,561 --> 00:02:05,397 I'm in Manchester, Connecticut, just east of Hartford. 43 00:02:05,398 --> 00:02:10,011 I received a call from a man named Tom. He's an ordained minister, a man of God. 44 00:02:10,012 --> 00:02:12,210 He doesn't want to believe there's evil in his home, 45 00:02:12,211 --> 00:02:14,672 but he says he can't deny it at this point. 46 00:02:14,673 --> 00:02:17,277 He says whatever's there is ripping his family apart, 47 00:02:17,278 --> 00:02:21,598 and that Amy and I are his last hope. 48 00:02:34,461 --> 00:02:40,361 Matt: Before Amy arrives, I look for anything that could influence her findings. 49 00:02:41,817 --> 00:02:44,940 This home has a lot of family photographs and children's toys, 50 00:02:44,941 --> 00:02:47,973 so it's important that I cover or remove them. 51 00:02:47,974 --> 00:02:53,874 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 52 00:03:07,346 --> 00:03:09,470 Amy: There is this little girl. 53 00:03:09,471 --> 00:03:15,371 She's freaking out and crying and panicking, and she's lost... 54 00:03:15,466 --> 00:03:17,986 In the woods. 55 00:03:19,618 --> 00:03:23,041 She's running from someone, and she's very scared. 56 00:03:23,042 --> 00:03:26,235 She knows that if he catches her, he's gonna hurt her. 57 00:03:26,236 --> 00:03:27,779 I mean, I know he gets her. 58 00:03:27,780 --> 00:03:29,781 Is this how she died? 59 00:03:29,782 --> 00:03:32,062 Definitely. 60 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,217 Steve: Tom, I'm glad I'm here, because when we spoke, 61 00:03:46,218 --> 00:03:48,040 you sounded pretty stressed out on the phone. 62 00:03:48,041 --> 00:03:51,203 Yeah, there's been a lot of pretty intense things going on here. 63 00:03:51,204 --> 00:03:55,130 Our daughter wakes up in the middle of the night, screaming for us, 64 00:03:55,131 --> 00:04:00,832 and my wife will go into her room and sleep with her to comfort her. 65 00:04:00,833 --> 00:04:02,896 As a father, that's got to be pretty tough. 66 00:04:02,897 --> 00:04:06,647 The look in her face, just the sheer terror, 67 00:04:06,648 --> 00:04:09,479 it's painful to watch her struggle. 68 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,356 What kind of things are you experiencing here? 69 00:04:11,357 --> 00:04:14,859 We hear footsteps. We've seen shadow figures. 70 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:17,062 We've seen apparitions in the house. 71 00:04:17,063 --> 00:04:19,431 We hear things moving on their own. 72 00:04:19,432 --> 00:04:21,701 A whole variety of things are going on here. 73 00:04:21,702 --> 00:04:23,600 Now, I understand you're an ordained minister. 74 00:04:23,601 --> 00:04:24,768 Yes, I am, yeah. 75 00:04:24,769 --> 00:04:27,422 So, have you done blessings on the house yourself? 76 00:04:27,423 --> 00:04:32,010 I've done numerous blessings, you know, both prayers and holy water. 77 00:04:32,011 --> 00:04:33,526 It just doesn't stop. 78 00:04:33,527 --> 00:04:35,288 What are you hoping we can do for you guys? 79 00:04:35,289 --> 00:04:40,152 We've gone as far as we can on our own, and we really need a solution to this. 80 00:04:40,153 --> 00:04:44,293 We can't live like this any longer. 81 00:04:49,290 --> 00:04:53,010 Uh, there's a guy down there. 82 00:04:53,866 --> 00:04:59,760 He's angry, and he's really trying to make me scared of him. 83 00:04:59,761 --> 00:05:02,474 He's saying, "don't come down here". 84 00:05:02,475 --> 00:05:05,415 "Get away from me". 85 00:05:16,567 --> 00:05:21,105 He only comes down here when they're trying to get rid of him. 86 00:05:21,106 --> 00:05:23,195 Like, he wants to hide. 87 00:05:23,196 --> 00:05:28,116 When he comes down here, he will pitch a fit. 88 00:05:28,561 --> 00:05:32,053 He's got kind of a dark side. 89 00:05:32,054 --> 00:05:34,514 This is bad. 90 00:05:41,814 --> 00:05:44,549 So, Tom, why'd you bring me up into this room? 91 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:47,185 It just gives off a very oppressive feeling. 92 00:05:47,186 --> 00:05:51,334 We try not even to come down in this part of the house at night. 93 00:05:51,335 --> 00:05:55,960 Tom, I get that you have a feeling in this place, but what about specific experiences? 94 00:05:55,961 --> 00:06:00,798 I was painting my daughter's playroom, and I was facing out into the room. 95 00:06:00,799 --> 00:06:04,969 At that time, I saw a big, solid black mass moving down the wall. 96 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:08,116 It was much taller than I and broader than I. 97 00:06:08,117 --> 00:06:11,443 It couldn't have been, like, a headlight or any kind of reflection off anything? 98 00:06:11,444 --> 00:06:12,955 It was snowing that particular day, 99 00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:16,714 so there wasn't really a situation to create a shadow like that. 100 00:06:16,715 --> 00:06:17,855 I was stunned. 101 00:06:17,856 --> 00:06:20,752 Are there any other experiences in this part of the house? 102 00:06:20,753 --> 00:06:26,653 At night, I've heard heavy objects moving, it sounds like, across my desk. 103 00:06:26,848 --> 00:06:29,731 So, I wait till the morning, I come here and look at the desk to 104 00:06:29,732 --> 00:06:33,118 see if anything had been moved, actually, and nothing had moved. 105 00:06:33,119 --> 00:06:35,167 Why don't you come in here and see what's going on? 106 00:06:35,168 --> 00:06:38,002 Whatever it is, I know that it's not a physical thing. 107 00:06:38,003 --> 00:06:43,283 It's something that I'm not equipped to deal with. 108 00:06:50,547 --> 00:06:52,996 This is wrong. 109 00:06:52,997 --> 00:06:58,755 There's a lot of problems here, specifically in this area. 110 00:06:58,756 --> 00:07:00,564 The man I encountered in the basement 111 00:07:00,565 --> 00:07:03,495 spends most of his time upstairs in this area. 112 00:07:03,496 --> 00:07:07,899 He hates living people in his space and has disturbing ways of showing it. 113 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:10,506 There's a lot of bothering going on. 114 00:07:10,507 --> 00:07:14,654 Can you talk about what he does up here that might disturb people? 115 00:07:14,655 --> 00:07:17,453 I'm hearing, like, stuff sliding across the floor. 116 00:07:17,454 --> 00:07:19,751 Like, hearing furniture moving. 117 00:07:19,752 --> 00:07:22,992 He will really go nuts. 118 00:07:29,884 --> 00:07:31,461 What's going on in here? 119 00:07:31,462 --> 00:07:35,036 Tom: I got in bed, and when I turned over facing this way, 120 00:07:35,037 --> 00:07:38,143 there was two girls standing on the side of my bed. 121 00:07:38,144 --> 00:07:40,973 I was absolutely terrified. 122 00:07:40,974 --> 00:07:45,172 So I kicked out with my leg, and when I kicked out, they dissipated. 123 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:48,072 - Describe 'em for me. - They were bluish. 124 00:07:48,073 --> 00:07:52,207 They were wearing old-fashioned dresses with lace collars. 125 00:07:52,208 --> 00:07:56,305 There's so much stuff going on here that I started keeping a ghost log on it. 126 00:07:56,306 --> 00:07:59,498 Can I take a look at it? 127 00:07:59,499 --> 00:08:03,039 - This is it? - That's it. 128 00:08:03,822 --> 00:08:05,264 You got a lot of activity. 129 00:08:05,265 --> 00:08:11,165 Two months later, my daughter had a friend sleep over, and she had a strange dream. 130 00:08:11,616 --> 00:08:14,558 And she said in this dream... 131 00:08:14,559 --> 00:08:16,829 Three girls came to her. 132 00:08:16,830 --> 00:08:21,029 And they were wearing old-fashioned dresses with lace collars. 133 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:24,773 And I was just stunned because I didn't... 134 00:08:24,774 --> 00:08:28,250 I didn't tell Allyson about that. I absolutely didn't tell the friend about it. 135 00:08:28,251 --> 00:08:30,411 And I called you guys the very next day. 136 00:08:30,412 --> 00:08:32,740 And now, in your opinion, you think this stuff, 137 00:08:32,741 --> 00:08:34,819 whatever's here, could be dangerous to your family? 138 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:37,820 It's quite possible. 139 00:08:40,493 --> 00:08:42,661 I don't like it. 140 00:08:42,662 --> 00:08:45,842 He makes me feel sick. 141 00:08:46,017 --> 00:08:51,897 He's showing me himself as this, like, creepy, sinister guy. 142 00:08:52,148 --> 00:08:57,089 And that was to try to scare me off so I wouldn't bother him. 143 00:08:57,090 --> 00:08:59,544 Do you know if he can do that to other people? 144 00:08:59,545 --> 00:09:02,005 Yes, he can. 145 00:09:02,476 --> 00:09:05,776 He can read their minds. 146 00:09:26,588 --> 00:09:28,350 Steve: Joanna, I was talking to your husband, 147 00:09:28,351 --> 00:09:31,399 and he was telling me you guys are having a pretty rough time here. 148 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,244 And how are you handling all this? 149 00:09:33,245 --> 00:09:39,145 I imagine for my child safe family, safe home, where she can be happy. 150 00:09:39,469 --> 00:09:42,393 She's having hard time going upstairs by herself. 151 00:09:42,394 --> 00:09:44,861 She doesn't go to bed by herself. 152 00:09:44,862 --> 00:09:47,878 It is affecting how she grow. 153 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:52,139 And as a person with hard childhood... 154 00:09:52,199 --> 00:09:56,069 I want to make sure that my child will be safe. 155 00:09:56,070 --> 00:09:59,160 Steve: One thing I've learned working with Amy is that unexplained activity, 156 00:09:59,161 --> 00:10:01,985 can also be caused by the living, not just the dead. 157 00:10:01,986 --> 00:10:06,118 So, when a witness tells me she's had a hard life, I need more details. 158 00:10:06,119 --> 00:10:08,988 Joanna, where are you actually from? What country are you from? 159 00:10:08,989 --> 00:10:11,275 - I'm from Poland. - Okay. 160 00:10:11,276 --> 00:10:16,507 My father worked with the government, and he was involved with police. 161 00:10:16,508 --> 00:10:19,966 Russians cooperating with our government. 162 00:10:19,967 --> 00:10:22,787 That's my father. 163 00:10:25,439 --> 00:10:27,735 What did he do for the government? 164 00:10:27,736 --> 00:10:30,667 He would be the part of spying on people, 165 00:10:30,668 --> 00:10:34,450 trying to get rid of everybody who is in his way. 166 00:10:34,451 --> 00:10:38,715 But my mom was opposite side of the politics. 167 00:10:38,716 --> 00:10:44,476 Which was people trying to be free, fighting for democracy. 168 00:10:44,613 --> 00:10:47,897 And my father, I think he had anger issue or something, 169 00:10:47,898 --> 00:10:52,878 because I saw him putting gun against her head. 170 00:10:53,667 --> 00:10:56,879 So, you watched your father threaten your mother with a gun to her head? 171 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,560 Yes. 172 00:10:58,561 --> 00:11:00,217 Now, do you talk to him at all? 173 00:11:00,218 --> 00:11:02,172 They divorced when I was 18, 174 00:11:02,173 --> 00:11:05,545 and after that, I really didn't keep in touch with him. 175 00:11:05,546 --> 00:11:10,580 I don't even know if he's alive, to be honest. 176 00:11:10,581 --> 00:11:14,505 Amy: There's this guy. He's kind of stocky. 177 00:11:14,506 --> 00:11:18,646 He is some kind of, like, cop or... 178 00:11:19,233 --> 00:11:21,058 Investigator. 179 00:11:21,059 --> 00:11:24,568 Just a real tough, rough dude. 180 00:11:24,569 --> 00:11:27,293 He's looking over things all the time. 181 00:11:27,294 --> 00:11:29,963 He's constantly on patrol. 182 00:11:29,964 --> 00:11:32,241 Do you know when he died? 183 00:11:32,242 --> 00:11:35,362 In the last 20 years? 184 00:11:36,145 --> 00:11:41,114 And I'm getting that he was some kind of grandfather figure or father figure. 185 00:11:41,115 --> 00:11:44,487 - To someone that's here now? - Yes. 186 00:11:44,488 --> 00:11:47,513 He loves them, but... 187 00:11:47,514 --> 00:11:53,412 I think there's, like, times where he's seeing things happening here in the house. 188 00:11:53,413 --> 00:11:57,165 That he doesn't agree with or doesn't like, 189 00:11:57,166 --> 00:12:00,570 and that's when he'll sometimes just snap. 190 00:12:00,571 --> 00:12:02,920 Does he express that in any way? 191 00:12:02,921 --> 00:12:07,671 He might influence you, like to feel angry for no reason. 192 00:12:07,672 --> 00:12:13,572 And then I just see, like, black and yelling, which is his temper. 193 00:12:15,984 --> 00:12:18,890 Why don't you tell me what you've been experiencing in the house? 194 00:12:18,891 --> 00:12:22,353 This four lights we have here... 195 00:12:22,354 --> 00:12:25,011 Three of them, I unscrewed the bulbs 196 00:12:25,012 --> 00:12:28,163 because it's too much for us, for every day. 197 00:12:28,164 --> 00:12:31,963 And we were sitting at the table, and three of them went on. 198 00:12:31,964 --> 00:12:35,900 I'm thinking, that's not possible, and then they went off. 199 00:12:35,901 --> 00:12:39,237 And those three were still unscrewed after. 200 00:12:39,238 --> 00:12:41,990 So, how far do you keep them loose? A couple turns? 201 00:12:41,991 --> 00:12:45,127 All the way loose. They're not in at all, almost. 202 00:12:45,128 --> 00:12:46,578 Okay. 203 00:12:46,579 --> 00:12:51,026 But the most disturbing was actually a couple weeks ago. 204 00:12:51,027 --> 00:12:54,210 I went to bed with my daughter, and at midnight, 205 00:12:54,211 --> 00:12:58,232 somebody woke me up touching my shoulder. 206 00:12:58,233 --> 00:13:02,763 And I thought it was Tom, but there was nobody there. 207 00:13:02,764 --> 00:13:06,384 And if this is what wakes her up in the middle of the night... 208 00:13:06,385 --> 00:13:08,426 Then I understand why she always makes sure, 209 00:13:08,427 --> 00:13:12,987 "mommy, will you stay with me all night?" 210 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,744 I see this, like, black thing. 211 00:13:23,745 --> 00:13:26,484 In life, it was a young man. 212 00:13:26,485 --> 00:13:31,141 Now he's, like, turning into a stalky, shadowy thing. 213 00:13:31,142 --> 00:13:36,002 He doesn't care um, about personal boundaries. 214 00:13:36,877 --> 00:13:39,937 He's like a stalker. 215 00:13:46,338 --> 00:13:49,009 This weird, dark thing... 216 00:13:49,010 --> 00:13:51,470 Is not good. 217 00:13:52,211 --> 00:13:54,612 It was not a good person. 218 00:13:54,613 --> 00:13:56,009 Okay. 219 00:13:56,010 --> 00:14:01,910 Like, I think that this person might have been a serial killer. 220 00:14:08,998 --> 00:14:11,990 Allyson, mom and dad say you're having a tough time in here. 221 00:14:11,991 --> 00:14:13,879 Yeah. 222 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,773 Are you seeing things, they say? 223 00:14:15,774 --> 00:14:17,511 In my dreams... 224 00:14:17,512 --> 00:14:19,521 I see... 225 00:14:19,522 --> 00:14:21,562 People. 226 00:14:21,798 --> 00:14:25,168 First, I was afraid of the dark but... 227 00:14:25,169 --> 00:14:28,819 Then I was afraid of the ghost. 228 00:14:28,820 --> 00:14:31,615 A ghost? Like, a man? 229 00:14:31,616 --> 00:14:32,931 Yes. 230 00:14:32,932 --> 00:14:35,931 - Is he an older man? Older than me? - No. 231 00:14:35,932 --> 00:14:38,183 He's younger than me? Okay. 232 00:14:38,184 --> 00:14:39,547 What does he do? 233 00:14:39,548 --> 00:14:42,644 He just stands by the foot of my bed. 234 00:14:42,645 --> 00:14:45,391 - Does he stare at you? - Yeah. 235 00:14:45,392 --> 00:14:47,669 Does he scare you? 236 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:49,931 We're gonna try to figure out what's going on here, okay, 237 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:54,672 so this man doesn't come visit you anymore. 238 00:15:08,370 --> 00:15:12,270 Yes, I see the little girl, yes. 239 00:15:13,595 --> 00:15:16,734 She's a living person. 240 00:15:16,735 --> 00:15:20,149 And there's a dead little girl here, as well. 241 00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:25,730 I know she was murdered by the dark thing, the stalker. 242 00:15:27,207 --> 00:15:29,387 She's here to warn the living about him. 243 00:15:29,388 --> 00:15:33,024 Matt: Do you know if the living girl has had any experiences with the stalker? 244 00:15:33,025 --> 00:15:35,546 I think so, yes. 245 00:15:35,547 --> 00:15:38,877 I think she might have dreams. 246 00:15:38,878 --> 00:15:44,096 I don't know if he's [Bleep] around with her in her nightmares or if she's... 247 00:15:44,097 --> 00:15:48,717 Woken up and seeing something in her room. 248 00:15:50,029 --> 00:15:55,429 He's really good at what he does, which is watching. 249 00:15:55,734 --> 00:15:57,484 But he's also dangerous? 250 00:15:57,485 --> 00:15:59,171 Oh, yeah. 251 00:15:59,172 --> 00:16:02,451 I think he killed the dead girl. 252 00:16:02,452 --> 00:16:06,892 And I think he wants to kill this girl. 253 00:16:18,831 --> 00:16:20,412 Steve: I'm at the local library 254 00:16:20,413 --> 00:16:25,536 to see what else I can uncover about my client's property. 255 00:16:25,537 --> 00:16:27,045 Searching through old deeds, 256 00:16:27,046 --> 00:16:31,642 I discovered the original owner was a guy named James Lanfear. 257 00:16:31,643 --> 00:16:35,039 But what really catches my eye is an article about his wife... 258 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:40,500 Who died of a pulmonary disease when she was only 25. 259 00:16:40,842 --> 00:16:44,112 Now that I know a 25-year-old woman died on the property I'm investigating, 260 00:16:44,113 --> 00:16:46,224 I need to find out what happened. 261 00:16:46,225 --> 00:16:49,354 So I reached out to a local historian who told me her death 262 00:16:49,355 --> 00:16:55,255 was just the beginning of a long, tragic story for the Lanfear family. 263 00:17:00,983 --> 00:17:05,895 Susan: Mary Lanfear lived on the property that you're investigating. 264 00:17:05,896 --> 00:17:10,048 She and her husband, James, had two children, Ella and Cora. 265 00:17:10,049 --> 00:17:10,957 Okay. 266 00:17:10,958 --> 00:17:15,900 He was a farmer and a manufacturer, and they were pretty well-to-do. 267 00:17:15,901 --> 00:17:19,356 Okay. It sounds like she died from a pulmonary disease. 268 00:17:19,357 --> 00:17:22,974 Tuberculosis. It was a very painful way to go. 269 00:17:22,975 --> 00:17:26,357 So, now, what happens to James after his wife dies with two kids? 270 00:17:26,358 --> 00:17:31,228 Strangely enough, five months later, James remarried... 271 00:17:31,229 --> 00:17:32,985 A woman by the name of Harriet. 272 00:17:32,986 --> 00:17:37,285 This is an announcement of the marriage. 273 00:17:37,286 --> 00:17:39,187 - Five months later? - Yes. 274 00:17:39,188 --> 00:17:42,180 - He didn't waste much time, did he? - Maybe he knew her. We don't know. 275 00:17:42,181 --> 00:17:44,661 So, he had two kids with his wife who passed. 276 00:17:44,662 --> 00:17:46,859 Now he gets remarried. Does he have any kids with her? 277 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:51,105 Unfortunately, both of their children died, two little boys. 278 00:17:51,106 --> 00:17:54,874 The first one died on the day he was born. 279 00:17:54,875 --> 00:17:58,300 And the next one was stillborn, very sad. 280 00:17:58,301 --> 00:18:00,741 You know, Susan, this guy didn't have an easy go with things. 281 00:18:00,742 --> 00:18:02,515 I mean, he loses his young wife. 282 00:18:02,516 --> 00:18:06,485 Then he remarries and loses two kids it looks like within a year of each other. 283 00:18:06,486 --> 00:18:08,981 And then it gets worse. 284 00:18:08,982 --> 00:18:11,118 The next year, in 1860... 285 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,291 James and Harriet were charged with child abuse. 286 00:18:14,292 --> 00:18:17,000 - Child abuse? - Yes. 287 00:18:17,001 --> 00:18:18,681 Do you know any details about that case? 288 00:18:18,682 --> 00:18:24,582 All I know is that it was quite a scandal in Manchester, and it did go to trial. 289 00:18:25,936 --> 00:18:30,856 Amy: The stalker has, like, an ease about him. 290 00:18:31,591 --> 00:18:35,791 Do you have any idea about his life? 291 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,520 He's, like, really quiet, and he's always watching. 292 00:18:42,739 --> 00:18:47,767 He goes all over the house, so I'm thinking that he lived here. 293 00:18:47,768 --> 00:18:50,960 What does he want to do to the living? 294 00:18:50,961 --> 00:18:55,907 Well, with the women here, he wants to kill 'em. 295 00:18:55,908 --> 00:18:58,461 Steve: Look, I'm no expert on 19th-century law. 296 00:18:58,462 --> 00:19:02,002 But for someone to get charged with a child abuse case back in the 1860s, 297 00:19:02,003 --> 00:19:04,095 it had to be pretty bad. 298 00:19:04,096 --> 00:19:06,558 I'm on my way to meet with a retired police sergeant 299 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:11,299 who's done a lot of research on this case. 300 00:19:16,654 --> 00:19:18,888 Steve: John, thanks for meeting me. 301 00:19:18,889 --> 00:19:20,731 - James and Harriet Lanfear. - Mm hmm. 302 00:19:20,732 --> 00:19:24,029 They got brought up on charges of child abuse, so what were you able to find out? 303 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:29,065 I was lucky enough to get one article from a newspaper that mentioned it. 304 00:19:29,066 --> 00:19:30,936 John, let me ask you a question. This is 1860. 305 00:19:30,937 --> 00:19:33,788 Were a lot of cases even brought to trial? 306 00:19:33,789 --> 00:19:36,488 This is unheard of. It just doesn't happen. 307 00:19:36,489 --> 00:19:40,686 And to make it even more interesting is the people who's bringing the complaint. 308 00:19:40,687 --> 00:19:43,138 It's his own family. 309 00:19:43,139 --> 00:19:46,007 This is a very well-respected family in town. 310 00:19:46,008 --> 00:19:48,014 This is a time period where, 311 00:19:48,015 --> 00:19:51,583 everybody's family business was their own and no one else's. 312 00:19:51,584 --> 00:19:53,725 So the abuse had to have been horrendous. 313 00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:55,657 All right, so... 314 00:19:55,658 --> 00:20:00,558 She got a severe whipping and application of a hot flatiron. 315 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:03,248 On one of the child's limbs. That's pretty bad. 316 00:20:03,249 --> 00:20:05,679 Do you think the fact that she was a female and 10 years old 317 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,757 is the reason that the case was brought against him? 318 00:20:08,758 --> 00:20:12,467 I think it was the iron. That is not common, to burn a child. 319 00:20:12,468 --> 00:20:14,433 John, let me ask you. What was their defense? 320 00:20:14,434 --> 00:20:19,440 Well, their defense was they were trying to raise their children not to be stubborn. 321 00:20:19,441 --> 00:20:21,622 So, now, what wound up happening at the trial? 322 00:20:21,623 --> 00:20:25,583 In the trial, they were acquitted. 323 00:20:28,317 --> 00:20:30,383 Amy: Whoa. 324 00:20:30,384 --> 00:20:35,064 There are a lot of issues with the stairs. 325 00:20:36,308 --> 00:20:39,728 This sneaky, stalker guy... 326 00:20:40,456 --> 00:20:45,676 Wants to hurt women and push them down the stairs. 327 00:20:48,170 --> 00:20:51,890 He wants to harm females here. 328 00:20:52,918 --> 00:20:57,298 On two occasions, I felt that from him. 329 00:21:01,683 --> 00:21:04,543 I kind of felt the urge to throw myself down the stairs. 330 00:21:04,544 --> 00:21:08,744 Like, kind of made me feel that way. 331 00:21:23,352 --> 00:21:26,087 Steve: In my research, I also came across another family 332 00:21:26,088 --> 00:21:29,275 that lived on Tom and Joanna's property, the Colemans. 333 00:21:29,276 --> 00:21:33,742 What struck me odd was how many family members died at a young age. 334 00:21:33,743 --> 00:21:35,322 I managed to track down a descendent, 335 00:21:35,323 --> 00:21:41,143 who says his family suffered more than death in that house. 336 00:21:48,982 --> 00:21:51,779 Steve: Dennis, thanks for meeting me, but let me ask you a question. 337 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:53,514 Why here in this church? 338 00:21:53,515 --> 00:21:57,721 Thomas Coleman's whole life revolved around this church. 339 00:21:57,722 --> 00:22:01,720 This church, okay. What's your relationship to Thomas Coleman? 340 00:22:01,721 --> 00:22:05,464 Thomas Coleman was the uncle of my grandmother. 341 00:22:05,465 --> 00:22:08,195 Okay. Now, what can you tell me about him? 342 00:22:08,196 --> 00:22:13,437 He was an immigrant that came from Derry, Ireland, in 1881. 343 00:22:13,438 --> 00:22:14,418 Okay. 344 00:22:14,419 --> 00:22:20,319 And he was able to buy the land that you're talking about from his father-in-law. 345 00:22:20,754 --> 00:22:23,675 Okay. Now, Dennis, what I found interesting was that um, 346 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:26,501 there was a lot of deaths associated with Thomas Coleman's family. 347 00:22:26,502 --> 00:22:31,717 There was. He had an infant son in 1892 that died. 348 00:22:31,718 --> 00:22:34,991 His wife died young of a heart attack. 349 00:22:34,992 --> 00:22:37,872 Okay. You mentioned on the phone there was more than death, 350 00:22:37,873 --> 00:22:39,503 as far as tragedy for this family. 351 00:22:39,504 --> 00:22:40,894 Yes. 352 00:22:40,895 --> 00:22:43,651 Thomas' oldest son, Thomas... 353 00:22:43,652 --> 00:22:46,010 Married his first cousin. 354 00:22:46,011 --> 00:22:50,937 And it was a rule of the church that you did not marry your first cousin. 355 00:22:50,938 --> 00:22:54,958 So, Thomas Senior disowned his son. 356 00:22:55,030 --> 00:22:57,064 Wow. That's pretty sad. 357 00:22:57,065 --> 00:22:58,170 Yes. 358 00:22:58,171 --> 00:23:02,416 But Thomas also had children that were very devoted to him. 359 00:23:02,417 --> 00:23:05,657 One of them was Edward. 360 00:23:06,108 --> 00:23:10,449 Edward was the apple of his father's eye. 361 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:14,270 They were very close. They were both firemen. 362 00:23:14,271 --> 00:23:17,345 He was the next oldest son. 363 00:23:17,346 --> 00:23:22,158 But he also died at a very young age of 43. 364 00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:24,938 Wow. That's pretty tragic. 365 00:23:24,939 --> 00:23:27,228 It says "kidney failure". 366 00:23:27,229 --> 00:23:29,672 Kidney and heart failure. 367 00:23:29,673 --> 00:23:33,747 He suffered over the last couple years of his life. 368 00:23:33,748 --> 00:23:35,668 Okay. 369 00:23:46,028 --> 00:23:49,868 Amy: This guy in the basement... 370 00:23:53,069 --> 00:23:54,989 He... 371 00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:58,250 Felt very, very ill. 372 00:23:59,807 --> 00:24:02,547 The angry guy from the basement has come out of hiding, 373 00:24:02,548 --> 00:24:04,494 and he wants me to feel his pain. 374 00:24:04,495 --> 00:24:07,863 The pain he felt when he was dying. 375 00:24:07,864 --> 00:24:11,202 And it hurt, and it hurts, like, here. 376 00:24:11,203 --> 00:24:12,985 Really bad. 377 00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:18,266 Like, this is... he's like... he's even like that. 378 00:24:21,641 --> 00:24:26,086 Can you tell anything about who he was when he was alive? 379 00:24:26,087 --> 00:24:29,267 I think he lived here. 380 00:24:29,447 --> 00:24:33,974 He was a pretty private guy, pretty introverted. 381 00:24:33,975 --> 00:24:37,035 Seems pretty educated. 382 00:24:37,979 --> 00:24:41,039 Got sick in his 40s. 383 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,880 His life was met with darkness and tragedy. 384 00:24:47,989 --> 00:24:50,749 Oh, this is bad. 385 00:25:02,937 --> 00:25:05,190 I'm having a sketch artist draw the two entities 386 00:25:05,191 --> 00:25:07,550 who stood out the most from my walk. 387 00:25:07,551 --> 00:25:11,031 First, the tough older man. 388 00:25:11,687 --> 00:25:14,747 He's white, heavyset. 389 00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,953 He had gray hair... 390 00:25:18,041 --> 00:25:20,537 That was receding back. 391 00:25:20,538 --> 00:25:22,363 Like a widow's peak. 392 00:25:22,364 --> 00:25:24,284 Okay. 393 00:25:26,328 --> 00:25:31,098 Next, I described the dark figure I saw in the little girl's room. 394 00:25:31,099 --> 00:25:34,017 She's probably like 5 or something. 395 00:25:34,018 --> 00:25:36,262 And she's in the bed. 396 00:25:36,263 --> 00:25:39,225 And then there's a little girl here who's much younger. 397 00:25:39,226 --> 00:25:42,024 She's wearing a little dress. 398 00:25:42,025 --> 00:25:47,425 And there's, like, this weird black thing behind her. 399 00:25:51,323 --> 00:25:54,443 Is that what you saw? 400 00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:57,501 Yes. 401 00:26:21,342 --> 00:26:24,090 Steve: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations. 402 00:26:24,091 --> 00:26:28,494 We're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 403 00:26:28,495 --> 00:26:30,984 Amy, I'd like you to meet Tom and Joanna. 404 00:26:30,985 --> 00:26:32,762 They've been living here about eight years. 405 00:26:32,763 --> 00:26:35,736 Tom is pretty anxious about the stuff that's going on here. 406 00:26:35,737 --> 00:26:37,892 Joanna gets absolutely no sleep. 407 00:26:37,893 --> 00:26:41,595 The activity in this house is so bad, it's actually tearing them apart. 408 00:26:41,596 --> 00:26:44,637 But their biggest concern is their 8-year-old daughter, Allyson. 409 00:26:44,638 --> 00:26:47,933 Who's actually afraid to go anywhere in this house alone. 410 00:26:47,934 --> 00:26:53,834 So, with that being said, I'm going to ask Amy to tell us a little bit about her walk. 411 00:26:55,153 --> 00:27:00,433 When I walked into the basement, I saw this entity. 412 00:27:00,439 --> 00:27:04,519 He was very angry, depressed, and... 413 00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:07,366 Apparently, he used to live here. 414 00:27:07,367 --> 00:27:12,079 One of the things with him was the pain I kept feeling in my stomach, 415 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,462 and it felt like an illness, and I felt sick. 416 00:27:15,463 --> 00:27:19,388 It took a long time before he died. 417 00:27:19,389 --> 00:27:21,715 Any idea how old this guy might have been? 418 00:27:21,716 --> 00:27:24,596 - 45. - Wow, okay. 419 00:27:25,021 --> 00:27:28,528 One guy that comes to mind for me that actually lived in this property here, 420 00:27:28,529 --> 00:27:30,973 was a guy by the name of Edward Coleman. 421 00:27:30,974 --> 00:27:33,169 He was a fireman. 422 00:27:33,170 --> 00:27:37,010 I actually have a photo of him. 423 00:27:37,631 --> 00:27:40,773 He died in his early 40s. 424 00:27:40,774 --> 00:27:44,674 I got his death certificate here. 425 00:27:46,113 --> 00:27:49,982 He basically died from kidney and heart failure. 426 00:27:49,983 --> 00:27:52,844 You mentioned pain in the stomach. 427 00:27:52,845 --> 00:27:54,163 Mm-hmm. 428 00:27:54,164 --> 00:27:59,676 One of the symptoms of kidney failure is a swelling of the stomach and cramps. 429 00:27:59,677 --> 00:28:02,161 You know, you mentioned that he was depressed. 430 00:28:02,162 --> 00:28:06,022 His older brother married his first cousin. 431 00:28:06,023 --> 00:28:09,575 And it tore the family apart. 432 00:28:09,576 --> 00:28:14,440 What this person likes to do is just be left alone. 433 00:28:14,441 --> 00:28:18,769 When he's not left alone, he'll get upset. 434 00:28:18,770 --> 00:28:22,724 The main place where he hangs out is actually upstairs, 435 00:28:22,725 --> 00:28:26,925 by the bathroom and the office areas. 436 00:28:27,982 --> 00:28:33,742 There's a lot of problems here, specifically in this area. 437 00:28:34,127 --> 00:28:39,616 I'm hearing, like, stuff sliding across the floor, like hearing furniture moving. 438 00:28:39,617 --> 00:28:42,857 He will really go nuts. 439 00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:47,903 When we have to walk past what's my office now, on two occasions, 440 00:28:47,904 --> 00:28:51,847 it sounded like something heavy sliding across the desk. 441 00:28:51,848 --> 00:28:54,589 And I was too uncomfortable with that room to begin with, 442 00:28:54,590 --> 00:28:57,737 and I didn't want to open the door and look, see what was going on. 443 00:28:57,738 --> 00:29:01,364 And why do you not like that room to begin with? 444 00:29:01,365 --> 00:29:05,158 It's just a very heavy feeling, very oppressive feeling in that room. 445 00:29:05,159 --> 00:29:07,788 It just physically makes you uncomfortable. 446 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:12,589 This house just has a lot of sadness to it. 447 00:29:15,095 --> 00:29:16,568 Steve: What else did you see? 448 00:29:16,569 --> 00:29:19,271 I met this other man. 449 00:29:19,272 --> 00:29:22,078 He was in his 60s. 450 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:27,979 Uh, he was, like, a stocky guy, and he was, like, a tough guy, like a cop. 451 00:29:27,986 --> 00:29:32,799 He was constantly on patrol, and he had a short temper. 452 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,472 He is somebody who recently died within the last 20 years. 453 00:29:37,473 --> 00:29:43,373 I felt like he was a father, a grandfather to somebody who lives here. 454 00:29:46,993 --> 00:29:50,914 Joanna: I don't know if he's alive or not, but my father was a cop, 455 00:29:50,915 --> 00:29:56,815 and he had a temper, and one time, he will take gun and put to my mom's head. 456 00:29:57,722 --> 00:30:01,601 And he would say that "I teach you lesson". 457 00:30:01,602 --> 00:30:03,604 Or something like that. 458 00:30:03,605 --> 00:30:08,538 He didn't use it, but I saw him being capable. 459 00:30:08,539 --> 00:30:10,955 I tried looking into Joanna's father's history, 460 00:30:10,956 --> 00:30:13,773 but she hadn't spoken to him in almost 30 years. 461 00:30:13,774 --> 00:30:16,128 And KGB records are pretty hard to come by. 462 00:30:16,129 --> 00:30:19,398 So, unfortunately, I couldn't confirm if he's alive or dead. 463 00:30:19,399 --> 00:30:25,299 I didn't think I was gonna need it, but I have the photo of your father. 464 00:30:26,673 --> 00:30:29,608 That's Joanna, and that's her father right there. 465 00:30:29,609 --> 00:30:32,048 Could that be him? 466 00:30:32,049 --> 00:30:35,529 I did do a sketch of him. 467 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,580 Wow. 468 00:30:42,689 --> 00:30:45,989 Looks pretty good to me. 469 00:30:52,424 --> 00:30:54,104 _. 470 00:30:57,737 --> 00:30:59,417 _. 471 00:31:02,552 --> 00:31:04,232 _. 472 00:31:07,223 --> 00:31:08,903 _. 473 00:31:11,048 --> 00:31:15,848 So, he's not the kind of guy that we'd want to see around here. 474 00:31:15,849 --> 00:31:17,529 _. 475 00:31:18,935 --> 00:31:20,459 Trying to protect. 476 00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:24,569 Amy: Given their traumatic relationship, I'm not surprised Joanna's dad is here. 477 00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:27,372 The dead don't just form attachments to locations 478 00:31:27,373 --> 00:31:30,236 but to the people who are the most important to them. 479 00:31:30,237 --> 00:31:32,151 Joanna: What is he protecting? 480 00:31:32,152 --> 00:31:34,905 I mean, he never protected me as a child. 481 00:31:34,906 --> 00:31:39,352 I did feel a lot of conflicting emotions from him. 482 00:31:39,353 --> 00:31:40,937 Guilt? 483 00:31:40,938 --> 00:31:43,976 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 484 00:31:43,977 --> 00:31:49,497 But he's not happy with the choices you made in life. 485 00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:53,449 Also, I felt that he could influence moods. 486 00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:58,330 He has very strong emotions, and you can feel them. 487 00:31:58,331 --> 00:32:01,095 You will feel that anger for no reason, 488 00:32:01,096 --> 00:32:06,996 or feel a sense of dissatisfaction with your life for no reason. 489 00:32:07,130 --> 00:32:10,970 Do you guys ever feel that way? 490 00:32:11,753 --> 00:32:13,736 [Sighs] 491 00:32:13,737 --> 00:32:17,757 I used to be a much gentler soul. 492 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:21,623 Since we've lived here, I'm much more explosive... 493 00:32:21,624 --> 00:32:24,550 And moody and angry. 494 00:32:24,551 --> 00:32:26,318 Now, was he like that in life? 495 00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:30,510 Joanna: Yeah, he never was satisfied with anything... 496 00:32:30,511 --> 00:32:34,851 Having enough, owning enough, hurting enough. 497 00:32:34,852 --> 00:32:38,212 And then, angry about it. 498 00:32:38,688 --> 00:32:43,382 To me, to think that it would be someone like him here makes me really angry. 499 00:32:43,383 --> 00:32:48,423 There might be a definite reason why he's here. 500 00:32:49,974 --> 00:32:53,034 I saw an entity I... 501 00:32:53,516 --> 00:32:55,908 Was afraid of. 502 00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:57,991 He might have lived here. 503 00:32:57,992 --> 00:33:03,296 I felt that this entity was dangerous and all over this house. 504 00:33:03,297 --> 00:33:06,671 The problem with him is that he doesn't... 505 00:33:06,672 --> 00:33:08,623 Have boundaries. 506 00:33:08,624 --> 00:33:10,828 He also... 507 00:33:10,829 --> 00:33:13,021 Hates women, uh... 508 00:33:13,022 --> 00:33:15,731 When he was alive, he did harm them. 509 00:33:15,732 --> 00:33:19,632 Both grown women and young women. 510 00:33:21,151 --> 00:33:25,622 You know, you mentioned the guy you saw liked to hurt girls. 511 00:33:25,623 --> 00:33:27,488 Let me tell you about this guy, James Lanfear. 512 00:33:27,489 --> 00:33:32,052 He lived on the property here back in 1850s into the 1860s. 513 00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:37,953 He and his wife went on trial for severely beating their 10-year-old daughter... 514 00:33:38,259 --> 00:33:43,419 Which I have an article here that talks about it. 515 00:33:45,469 --> 00:33:50,370 Now, it was so bad that his own family members turned them in. 516 00:33:50,371 --> 00:33:54,227 I'm not making excuses for the guy, but he did have a tough life. 517 00:33:54,228 --> 00:33:57,810 He did lose two infant kids at childbirth. 518 00:33:57,811 --> 00:33:59,590 He lost his first wife. 519 00:33:59,591 --> 00:34:03,891 She dies from Tuberculosis at the age of 25. 520 00:34:03,892 --> 00:34:06,000 Did you get anything else on this guy at all? 521 00:34:06,001 --> 00:34:09,781 He has extremely bad intentions. 522 00:34:10,147 --> 00:34:13,587 I was watching through the eyes of a little girl, 523 00:34:13,588 --> 00:34:17,908 that he was stalking and then murdered. 524 00:34:18,175 --> 00:34:20,170 I mean, I got no proof of any of that. 525 00:34:20,171 --> 00:34:23,776 But don't forget, mid-1800s, how hard is it to 526 00:34:23,777 --> 00:34:26,738 chase somebody down, kill 'em, bury 'em? 527 00:34:26,739 --> 00:34:28,980 This is a pretty isolated part of town. 528 00:34:28,981 --> 00:34:31,295 Really isolated. 529 00:34:31,296 --> 00:34:35,106 He was so filled with negativity that he is turning into, 530 00:34:35,107 --> 00:34:38,527 kind of like a dark mass. 531 00:34:40,342 --> 00:34:43,387 And I think that's how people see him. 532 00:34:43,388 --> 00:34:45,458 He's just evil. 533 00:34:45,459 --> 00:34:48,564 Now, you saw the shadow figure in your daughter's playroom, right? 534 00:34:48,565 --> 00:34:51,587 Tom: Yeah, I was in the closet painting, facing out to the room, 535 00:34:51,588 --> 00:34:57,488 and I just looked up, and I saw a black mass moving down the wall. 536 00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:03,460 That was disturbing, I had never seen that here before. 537 00:35:03,461 --> 00:35:05,408 Do you think it's this guy? 538 00:35:05,409 --> 00:35:06,962 More than likely. 539 00:35:06,963 --> 00:35:10,386 I did do a sketch of something that I... 540 00:35:10,387 --> 00:35:12,847 Saw upstairs. 541 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,256 Can you describe what's going on in this sketch? 542 00:35:31,257 --> 00:35:34,377 That's their daughter. 543 00:35:34,874 --> 00:35:36,392 Okay, so, who's this kid? 544 00:35:36,393 --> 00:35:40,669 This is the little girl that he murdered. 545 00:35:40,670 --> 00:35:44,224 So, the shadow he saw is probably this guy? 546 00:35:44,225 --> 00:35:46,019 Yeah, I think so. 547 00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:48,319 I saw the exact same thing. 548 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,220 No arms, no limbs, just a shape. 549 00:35:52,356 --> 00:35:56,394 With a pronounced area where the head would be. 550 00:35:56,395 --> 00:36:01,882 I didn't see it, but the night that I slept with my daughter, 551 00:36:01,883 --> 00:36:06,863 around midnight, somebody just touch my shoulder. 552 00:36:09,008 --> 00:36:12,433 Let me show you a picture of the reason we're here. 553 00:36:12,434 --> 00:36:14,882 This is Allyson. 554 00:36:14,883 --> 00:36:16,048 - Mm. - All right? 555 00:36:16,049 --> 00:36:17,077 Mm-hmm. 556 00:36:17,078 --> 00:36:19,066 She always had said that, 557 00:36:19,067 --> 00:36:22,471 you know, something is standing at the foot of her bed when she sleeps. 558 00:36:22,472 --> 00:36:26,593 She's always been frightened up there, and she had said that, you know, 559 00:36:26,594 --> 00:36:29,891 "sometimes a man will come stand at the foot of my bed, 560 00:36:29,892 --> 00:36:33,225 sometimes a woman, and sometimes a child". 561 00:36:33,226 --> 00:36:37,635 Do me a favor. Just tell her about the two kids when you were in the bed. 562 00:36:37,636 --> 00:36:39,403 Tell her about that incident. 563 00:36:39,404 --> 00:36:43,812 One night, I went to bed, and I turned to my left towards the door, 564 00:36:43,813 --> 00:36:49,392 and there's two apparitions of two girls standing right next to the bed. 565 00:36:49,393 --> 00:36:55,019 And they were wearing old-fashioned dress, almost like calico and lace collars. 566 00:36:55,020 --> 00:36:55,917 Wow. 567 00:36:55,918 --> 00:37:00,063 So, why would they come to me and my daughter? 568 00:37:00,064 --> 00:37:05,884 His victims are coming to her to try to warn her and you. 569 00:37:06,723 --> 00:37:09,619 I am very nervous about this man. 570 00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:13,571 He's very dark and capable of very bad things. 571 00:37:13,572 --> 00:37:17,805 He wants to continue doing what he started doing in life. 572 00:37:17,806 --> 00:37:21,286 His intentions are to kill. 573 00:37:21,734 --> 00:37:25,154 Who's he looking to kill? 574 00:37:27,101 --> 00:37:29,621 Your daughter. 575 00:37:41,031 --> 00:37:44,174 I am very nervous about this man. 576 00:37:44,175 --> 00:37:50,047 He's very dark, and he is very capable of very bad things. 577 00:37:50,048 --> 00:37:55,098 He wants to continue doing what he started doing in life. 578 00:37:55,099 --> 00:37:57,741 His intentions are to kill. 579 00:37:57,742 --> 00:38:01,222 Who is he looking to kill? 580 00:38:01,926 --> 00:38:04,446 Your daughter. 581 00:38:07,857 --> 00:38:11,372 You have this person, who is a sociopath. 582 00:38:11,373 --> 00:38:14,932 And he is stalking his prey. 583 00:38:14,933 --> 00:38:17,441 So, he is excited. 584 00:38:17,442 --> 00:38:19,842 He's happy. 585 00:38:23,614 --> 00:38:27,991 - Can it hurt Allyson or anybody else? - Yes. I think so, yes. 586 00:38:27,992 --> 00:38:31,988 So, you think it's just a matter of time before something happens? 587 00:38:31,989 --> 00:38:34,329 Yes, I do. 588 00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:37,550 We got a problem here. 589 00:38:40,199 --> 00:38:42,745 Well, I realize this was a tough night for you guys and, 590 00:38:42,746 --> 00:38:45,135 some upsetting news that you weren't expecting. 591 00:38:45,136 --> 00:38:48,138 But we still haven't answered your most pressing question. 592 00:38:48,139 --> 00:38:50,273 Is it safe for Allyson to grow up here? 593 00:38:50,274 --> 00:38:56,016 So, for that, I'm gonna turn it over to my partner, Amy, and see what she has to say. 594 00:38:56,017 --> 00:38:59,163 One of the things that occurred to me 595 00:38:59,164 --> 00:39:03,481 after the investigation was the possibility that... 596 00:39:03,482 --> 00:39:07,322 Allyson is a very strong medium. 597 00:39:10,417 --> 00:39:13,232 She may have attracted... 598 00:39:13,233 --> 00:39:15,993 This guy to her. 599 00:39:16,517 --> 00:39:19,489 And because she's... 600 00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:22,386 The type of person... 601 00:39:22,387 --> 00:39:26,536 That he, in life, may have stalked... 602 00:39:26,537 --> 00:39:29,777 He is now stalking her. 603 00:39:30,585 --> 00:39:34,576 It's not her fault. It's just something she has. 604 00:39:34,577 --> 00:39:36,686 What's your religion? 605 00:39:36,687 --> 00:39:39,523 I'm an ordained minister, non-denominational. 606 00:39:39,524 --> 00:39:43,860 One of the things that I would like to see happen is... 607 00:39:43,861 --> 00:39:48,162 For you and your daughter to go to your church, 608 00:39:48,163 --> 00:39:51,703 and to talk to your pastor. 609 00:39:52,436 --> 00:39:58,336 Because you do need to have an exorcist perform a ritual to remove him. 610 00:40:02,435 --> 00:40:07,484 Because he is so evil and because he is so strong. 611 00:40:07,485 --> 00:40:10,882 Once that's done and he's kicked out. 612 00:40:10,883 --> 00:40:16,548 It's very likely that all of the victims will leave, because their job is done. 613 00:40:16,549 --> 00:40:18,893 So, will the exorcism get rid of the fireman? 614 00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:23,187 No. So, here's what you would need to do to get rid of the fireman. 615 00:40:23,188 --> 00:40:25,480 Perform the real basic cleansing. 616 00:40:25,481 --> 00:40:28,545 While you're doing the cleansing, you're telling him to leave. 617 00:40:28,546 --> 00:40:30,616 He's not welcomed. He's not wanted. 618 00:40:30,617 --> 00:40:34,382 Through the entire house, from the basement to the attic. 619 00:40:34,383 --> 00:40:36,300 What about Joanna's dad? 620 00:40:36,301 --> 00:40:41,693 One thing that I would ask you to do is to write a letter to your father. 621 00:40:41,694 --> 00:40:46,829 About everything, how you felt he treated you, how you felt he treated your mother, 622 00:40:46,830 --> 00:40:49,564 the things you saw, how it made you feel. 623 00:40:49,565 --> 00:40:54,605 Then one night, while you're alone in the house, read it. 624 00:40:54,606 --> 00:40:59,285 And then at the end, tell him to now leave you alone in peace. 625 00:40:59,286 --> 00:41:00,966 _. 626 00:41:02,678 --> 00:41:07,549 I just feel very helpless through the whole thing, you know? 627 00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:10,963 I feel that if my faith was stronger that, 628 00:41:10,964 --> 00:41:14,822 maybe some of this would not be the way it is. 629 00:41:14,823 --> 00:41:18,393 I just feel my way is lost a little bit. 630 00:41:18,394 --> 00:41:21,979 In this situation, you need to help your daughter. 631 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:26,496 And it sucks that you feel the way you do, but... 632 00:41:26,497 --> 00:41:31,745 As a man of this home and this family, you have to buck up. 633 00:41:31,746 --> 00:41:34,525 You got to be strong for your daughter. 634 00:41:34,526 --> 00:41:39,926 You need to help her and your wife get through this. 635 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,612 There is love here. 636 00:41:42,613 --> 00:41:46,254 That's your faith. That's your motivator. 637 00:41:46,255 --> 00:41:48,175 Yeah. 638 00:41:49,625 --> 00:41:51,647 I believe it. 639 00:41:51,648 --> 00:41:53,995 Amy: I understand Tom and Joanna's fears. 640 00:41:53,996 --> 00:41:57,699 When you're dealing with such a dangerous entity, it's terrifying. 641 00:41:57,700 --> 00:41:59,813 But I believe if they follow my advice, 642 00:41:59,814 --> 00:42:05,623 they can protect Allyson and themselves from the evil inside their home. 643 00:42:05,624 --> 00:42:11,524 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. Www.Addic7ed.Com. 644 00:42:11,574 --> 00:42:16,124 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 53093

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