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She knows she's freaking scaring them.
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There's something here.
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I can hear footsteps walking behind me.
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You can feel that you're being watched.
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She had been stabbed and hacked.
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He killed her.
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I'm not gonna walk away.
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She's inside of me.
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This is going to be a
difficult walk for me.
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They're being watched.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This thing likes death.
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I see dead people.
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This thing is, like, a monster.
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I speak to dead people.
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And he's pissed off now.
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And they speak to me.
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His head was cracked.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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This guy was murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired
New York City homicide Detective.
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I cannot help you unless
I know the whole story.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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You saw her? It's my job to reveal them.
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Why would you stay here?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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[Echoing] Stop it.
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We uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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I want to know the truth. I
want to know what's happening.
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Or time to get out.
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[Crying] I told you there
were ghosts in this house.
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Steve: Amy and I are called
in to investigate cases,
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when our clients have
nowhere else to turn.
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I interview living witnesses and
dig into the history of the location.
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Looking for secrets buried in the past.
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While Amy communicates with the dead.
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I'm in Cambridge Springs, Pennsylvania.
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It's about 100 miles
north of Pittsburgh.
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I received a call from a woman
named Brenda, who owns a local hotel.
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She says things have gotten so
bad that her employees are scared,
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and her guests are having
terrible experiences.
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She says if we can't help,
she may lose her business.
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Matthew: Before Amy arrives, I look for
anything that could influence her findings.
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This hotel is filled with
historical photographs,
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that have to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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[Switches clicking]
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This is going to be a
difficult walk for me.
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I feel dizzy and...
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Confused... very confused.
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There's a lot of death.
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Someone did suffer...
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Major head trauma here.
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It was agony... absolutely just agony.
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Mm.
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- Brenda?
- Brenda: Yes.
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Very glad you're here.
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- How long you owned this place?
- This is the beginning of our fourth year.
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Way back in 1986, my husband and I pulled
up in front of the hotel, and we said...
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"Man, if we ever won the lottery,
I would want to buy the Inn".
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Um, about four years ago,
the opportunity arose.
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Didn't win the lottery, but we sank
every penny we have into the place.
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So, at what point did you
realize you have a problem here?
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Well, after we talked
to some of the employees
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that had worked here over the years.
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I realized that we had a couple
that were afraid to work in
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the dish room by themselves
because they had seen things.
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Talking to different customers, I realized
that there are a lot of things going on.
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People being touched, things
disappearing out of the dinner theater.
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Quite a few things.
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- Is it hurting business?
- Absolutely.
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Nobody wants to go into a
hotel that they don't feel safe.
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One guest leaves here saying,
oh, something happened in my room.
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He tells 10 other people.
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I think there are people that
really would be afraid to...
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Come and stay at a place
that they think is "haunted".
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My main concern is that this inn
stays here for the next hundred years.
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And you got how much savings
invested in this place?
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Everything.
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- So, for you to shut it down would...
- I'd go bankrupt.
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There's a lot of inner conflict
with the dead people here.
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There's a lot of issues
between them, a lot of fighting.
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There's even, like, cliques.
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I'd say there's about three
cliques of dead people here.
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And they fight a lot.
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The entities here are
so angry with each other,
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they are separating themselves
into three warring groups...
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The old people, the young people...
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And this third group that I can only
describe as juvenile delinquents.
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There's this old man here with a cane.
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He's a very dominant presence.
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He has a beard and mustache,
which are gray and white.
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And he beats the younger people
with his cane when they fight.
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The living actually
can hear or feel this.
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It would be really scary to them.
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Brenda, this is a pretty interesting part
of the hotel, why'd you bring me in here?
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This is where at one point in
time, my husband and I came up,
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and the lights flickered, doors slammed,
and we were the only people in the hotel.
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Okay, did the breaker go
or something like that?
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Nope. Nope. Not at all. We flipped
the lights off, flipped the lights on.
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- They'd come back on again.
- Anything else going on up here?
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Well, when I come up here
myself, I always feel watched.
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Just a general feeling of
eyes being on you like...
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Whoever or whatever might be sitting in one
of these chairs just watching you pass by.
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Do you feel that way now?
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I always have that feeling that
there's always somebody watching me.
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These are where the juvenile
delinquents hang out.
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They are plotting and planning in here.
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There's at least five kids, and
they like to watch living people.
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They're like little spies creeping
around and watching people.
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You know, a little
inappropriate behavior.
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Like what?
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Like shower watching or
people going to the bathroom.
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Do you know anything about
the history of this place?
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Back in the turn of the century,
it was known as a resort,
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kind of like a Fountain of Youth.
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Okay, my question to you is,
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what if Amy told you that it's not
safe for your guests to be here?
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[Sighs]
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I have no idea what we would do.
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I really, really don't.
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- Okay, she may tell you that.
- I know.
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Okay?
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I know you got your heart
and soul in this place.
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We do.
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Everything we have is right here.
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I'm not gonna walk away.
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Larry, I was talking to your wife, and she
said that you've been experiencing stuff
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down here in the theater.
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You can feel that you're being watched.
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In what way, like, somebody's peeking
around the corner at you, or actually just
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like, sitting next to you, watching you?
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Like maybe just sitting, watching
you, or standing there watching.
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It can be disturbing.
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Anything else going on?
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Mostly things disappearing here.
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Like what?
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Props, shoes. They disappear for
two weeks, and then they reappear.
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You sure it's nobody borrowing
this stuff and bringing it back?
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Positive, because I have the key.
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I personally had a costume
go missing backstage...
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And three months later, it
appeared at the front desk.
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And nobody could
explain how it got there.
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The younger people are
far more rambunctious...
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And angry than the old people.
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They get all pissy.
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They work each other up,
and then they run amok.
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So, to the living
people, it seems constant.
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There's always something
that's been moved.
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[Laughter]
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Like what?
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Uh, anything and everything, really.
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Steve: So, what else have you seen?
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Lights that turn on
and off by themselves.
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The building is locked in
the winter when we're closed.
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I've had people call and say there
are lights on on the third floor.
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I, myself, have come over,
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unlocked the building, gone
upstairs, the light is not on.
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You sure it's nobody
breaking in, the kids doing...
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I want to find a ghost
here or something like that?
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Uh, security cameras show nothing.
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And we've had the electrical checked, and
there's no problem with the electrical.
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I got to ask you a
question... if Amy tells you,
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that it's not safe for your guests
to be here, what are you gonna do?
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That would be crushing.
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This has been a lifelong dream for us.
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We've invested our life savings into it.
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And then, with the kids,
the juvenile delinquents.
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They are fascinated with,
like, equipment and, like,
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electronic issues, like,
with the television.
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I don't know yet about them.
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I think they're the bad seeds.
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- Kristi, I was talking to Brenda.
- Mm hmm.
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- How long you been working here?
- Nine years.
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Now, she told me that you've
had some experiences here?
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Yes.
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I'll be leaving here, and as I'm walking,
I can hear footsteps walking behind me.
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- And nobody else is in the hotel.
- Unh-unh.
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And how far behind you do you hear it?
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I turn around to see if they're right
there, that's how close it sounds.
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- That's how close?
- Yes.
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Have you experienced anything else?
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In this room, I was
meeting with a bride.
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It was in the middle of the
winter, so there was nobody here.
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And she goes, I see somebody
walking down the hall.
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And I go, really? The doors are locked.
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So I turned around, and
we both see this shadow.
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Went and looked out this
door, and we saw nobody.
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Okay.
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- Did it look like a human being walking?
- Yes.
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Okay, so, it didn't look
like a mist or anything?
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No.
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Okay. These things that are going on
here, is it hurting business at all?
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I have a couple brides that are leery.
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Why do you stay here?
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I love my job. I love the hotel.
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Now, Brenda was saying how she put
her life savings into this place.
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- Are you worried about her?
- Yes. Very much.
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Matthew: You said there
were three cliques?
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Yes.
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Would they be seen at all?
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It's possible that
the elderly people are.
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But the kids, I would
think that maybe people...
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Could possibly see them, just because
they're all about spying and hiding.
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Um... [sighs]
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So, like...
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There's a lot of people
who are unhappy here.
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And then the living people
have negative experiences.
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And kind of become negative.
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Steve: So, Marie, I was
talking to your sister, Brenda,
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and she said that you've
had some experiences here?
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Yes.
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Okay. Can you explain
some of them for me?
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I've spent nights where my sister
and I were the only ones in-house.
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And I hear, like, what is heavy
furniture being pulled across the floor.
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And the one night, we're
up on the third floor.
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Well, there's nothing above
us on the third floor, but yet,
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I could still hear that noise.
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- Does it wake you up?
- It has, yes.
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- Okay, so it's that loud?
- Mm hmm.
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What else have you experienced?
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We were checking curtains in rooms,
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and Brenda and Pat, my
other sister, was in front.
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And I felt a tug on my shirt.
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And I turned around.
There's nobody there.
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You didn't get caught on anything?
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No. I was right in
the middle of the hall.
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Anything else?
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Uh, one night, in one
of the rooms, Pat and I,
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she was in one bed and I was
in one bed next to the door.
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And it was probably 5:00
or 6:00 in the morning,
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and I heard, like, a key in the door.
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And that's what woke me.
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But nobody came in, so I thought,
oh, somebody just has the wrong door.
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Okay.
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And then it wasn't even
like 15 seconds later...
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The sheets and blankets raise
up above where I'm sleeping.
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And then I feel this weight, like
someone's laying right on top of me.
243
00:14:42,108 --> 00:14:44,438
I was... I was scared to death.
244
00:14:44,439 --> 00:14:49,681
I tried to wake up Pat, but when you're
that scared, nothing will come out.
245
00:14:49,682 --> 00:14:53,669
It's like you can't
get your voice to work.
246
00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:56,848
It was terrifying. I
couldn't go back to sleep.
247
00:14:56,849 --> 00:15:00,373
Well, let me ask you a question. Have you
ever experienced anything before the hotel?
248
00:15:00,374 --> 00:15:03,679
No. I've never been
a believer in ghosts.
249
00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:09,560
Then that happened. It's like,
okay, there's something here.
250
00:15:10,363 --> 00:15:12,823
[Owl hooting]
251
00:15:13,754 --> 00:15:18,517
There's two women in particular
who do a lot of screaming.
252
00:15:18,518 --> 00:15:21,722
One of them is very depressed.
253
00:15:21,723 --> 00:15:24,423
And she is mad.
254
00:15:24,503 --> 00:15:28,583
And she is always dressed in black.
255
00:15:31,862 --> 00:15:35,162
This is, like, her zone.
256
00:15:35,165 --> 00:15:39,189
This is, I think, where she's seen...
257
00:15:39,190 --> 00:15:44,410
The most and has the most
interactions with people.
258
00:15:46,085 --> 00:15:49,745
Everything she does is creepy.
259
00:15:50,258 --> 00:15:53,618
She has a violent temper.
260
00:16:07,517 --> 00:16:11,777
Steve: Brenda told me that her hotel was
once marketed as the Fountain of Youth.
261
00:16:11,778 --> 00:16:13,781
So I'm heading over to
meet with a local historian,
262
00:16:13,782 --> 00:16:19,682
who said that what happened at the
Riverside will definitely help my case.
263
00:16:26,970 --> 00:16:29,684
Steve: So, my client said that
the property I'm investigating
264
00:16:29,685 --> 00:16:32,208
might have been a
fountain-of-youth type of a place.
265
00:16:32,209 --> 00:16:34,597
- It was.
- Okay. Now, who owned the property?
266
00:16:34,598 --> 00:16:39,271
Well, that was Dr. John H. Gray.
He's in the photograph here.
267
00:16:39,272 --> 00:16:41,246
He was the one that
discovered the mineral waters.
268
00:16:41,247 --> 00:16:44,019
He was out probing, looking
for oil on his property.
269
00:16:44,020 --> 00:16:47,477
He discovered not oil,
but rather a spring.
270
00:16:47,478 --> 00:16:51,010
So he had it tested, found
it was high in iron, sodium...
271
00:16:51,011 --> 00:16:54,963
Uh, magnesium, potassium, quite
a long list of minerals there.
272
00:16:54,964 --> 00:16:58,179
So, he starts prescribing to the locals.
273
00:16:58,180 --> 00:17:00,280
Here's an advertisement
here that is promoting
274
00:17:00,281 --> 00:17:04,721
what was available
for these individuals.
275
00:17:05,808 --> 00:17:09,209
So, Dr. Gray thought this water
could cure just about anything?
276
00:17:09,210 --> 00:17:11,380
That seemed to be the idea.
277
00:17:11,381 --> 00:17:14,024
Dale, this guy sounds
like some kind of a quack.
278
00:17:14,025 --> 00:17:17,743
Well, it does seem like quackery
by today's medical sciences.
279
00:17:17,744 --> 00:17:22,964
But that's what people
believed back at that time.
280
00:17:24,727 --> 00:17:28,627
Amy: Something is not right here.
281
00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,099
This used to be nicer grounds.
282
00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:35,915
More...
283
00:17:35,916 --> 00:17:37,908
Lush...
284
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:40,489
Bigger gardens.
285
00:17:41,545 --> 00:17:45,505
And there's, like, this wetness...
286
00:17:46,816 --> 00:17:49,368
Like oil or...
287
00:17:49,369 --> 00:17:51,349
Water.
288
00:17:54,051 --> 00:17:58,549
And it looks really
nice, but it's, uh...
289
00:17:58,550 --> 00:18:02,270
Not. It caused the misfortunes.
290
00:18:02,865 --> 00:18:06,825
And then I do hear "convalescent"?
291
00:18:08,010 --> 00:18:09,801
It's very...
292
00:18:09,802 --> 00:18:11,902
Strange.
293
00:18:14,479 --> 00:18:17,067
When did he start treating
people with this mineral water?
294
00:18:17,068 --> 00:18:18,602
It was 1884.
295
00:18:18,603 --> 00:18:22,525
This is a photograph that shows a
large number of people at the original,
296
00:18:22,526 --> 00:18:25,636
Gray Mineral spring house.
297
00:18:25,637 --> 00:18:29,615
People would stand 100 people in a
line waiting to buy a glass of water...
298
00:18:29,616 --> 00:18:33,307
Take a seat, drink their water, get
back in line, and do it all over again.
299
00:18:33,308 --> 00:18:35,669
Okay. What kind of people went to him?
300
00:18:35,670 --> 00:18:38,682
A lot of these people would have come
with pre-existing medical conditions.
301
00:18:38,683 --> 00:18:44,583
Everything from gout and diabetes
to disorders of the stomach, kidneys.
302
00:18:44,586 --> 00:18:47,406
Okay, so, did anybody
get cured from this stuff?
303
00:18:47,407 --> 00:18:49,955
There were those that
believed that they were better.
304
00:18:49,956 --> 00:18:52,581
But we're seeing that large
amounts of magnesium...
305
00:18:52,582 --> 00:18:56,873
Uh, can actually lead to serious issues
to the point of even death for some.
306
00:18:56,874 --> 00:19:01,097
All right, so, do we know if anybody
died at the property I'm investigating?
307
00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:03,853
Well, there were about six.
308
00:19:03,854 --> 00:19:06,099
Now, did Gray get in
any trouble for this?
309
00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:09,786
Actually, no. Um, he
lost the hotel in 1890.
310
00:19:09,787 --> 00:19:15,187
They got behind on taxes,
and a year later, he died.
311
00:19:21,832 --> 00:19:26,833
It seems like this place
did serve a lot of purpose.
312
00:19:26,834 --> 00:19:28,178
What do you mean?
313
00:19:28,179 --> 00:19:33,823
There's, like, people coming
and going and coming and going.
314
00:19:33,824 --> 00:19:37,544
I literally see, like, gurneys?
315
00:19:37,562 --> 00:19:40,262
[Gurney rattling]
316
00:19:41,466 --> 00:19:43,926
[Door creaks]
317
00:19:44,980 --> 00:19:49,892
I think that there were
a lot of ill people here.
318
00:19:49,893 --> 00:19:51,654
[Exhales deeply]
319
00:19:51,655 --> 00:19:53,243
You okay?
320
00:19:53,244 --> 00:19:55,612
I just feel sick.
321
00:19:55,613 --> 00:19:58,613
I'm a [Bleep] mess.
322
00:19:59,651 --> 00:20:01,953
Steve: Dale told me that
the waters at the Riverside,
323
00:20:01,954 --> 00:20:04,921
could have done a lot
more harm than good.
324
00:20:04,922 --> 00:20:09,152
I need to find out what a heavy dose
of magnesium will do to the human body.
325
00:20:09,153 --> 00:20:11,240
So I've called on a
Physiology Professor,
326
00:20:11,241 --> 00:20:17,141
who says the cure could've been
a lot worse than the disease.
327
00:20:24,688 --> 00:20:26,958
The property I'm investigating,
apparently, at one time,
328
00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:30,503
there was a Dr. Gray there that
ran it as a Fountain of Youth,
329
00:20:30,504 --> 00:20:32,727
where the mineral water that
was filled with magnesium,
330
00:20:32,728 --> 00:20:34,648
he said, would cure all diseases.
331
00:20:34,649 --> 00:20:36,922
Now, is there any truth at all to that?
332
00:20:36,923 --> 00:20:39,131
No, absolutely not.
333
00:20:39,132 --> 00:20:41,226
It would seem like
to me, even back then,
334
00:20:41,227 --> 00:20:44,411
that this would still be an
outrageous claim to treat illnesses.
335
00:20:44,412 --> 00:20:46,000
Okay.
336
00:20:46,001 --> 00:20:48,522
This is one of the bottles
I was actually able to find,
337
00:20:48,523 --> 00:20:52,363
that was being sold at the Inn.
338
00:20:54,305 --> 00:20:58,174
So, what would the symptoms be if
somebody had too much magnesium in them?
339
00:20:58,175 --> 00:21:01,111
Well, things like nausea,
dizziness, flushing.
340
00:21:01,112 --> 00:21:02,343
Okay.
341
00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:05,692
Now, I understand there were
six deaths at the location.
342
00:21:05,693 --> 00:21:06,544
Okay.
343
00:21:06,545 --> 00:21:09,368
Could too much of the
mineral water kill somebody?
344
00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:14,886
With the levels of magnesium that
are in that water, it's possible.
345
00:21:14,887 --> 00:21:19,691
Now, were there any diseases that would've
been worsened by taking this stuff?
346
00:21:19,692 --> 00:21:23,813
Certainly. If they had diminished
kidney function or kidney disease...
347
00:21:23,814 --> 00:21:26,272
Or stomach issues.
348
00:21:26,273 --> 00:21:28,473
Then, if it got to be high
enough amounts of magnesium,
349
00:21:28,474 --> 00:21:34,374
it could be respiratory failure and
cardiac arrest, in the worst-case scenario.
350
00:21:36,681 --> 00:21:41,541
There's a lot of physical
pain in this area.
351
00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:45,150
It hurts. [Groans]
352
00:21:51,929 --> 00:21:55,623
People are crying out in pain.
353
00:21:55,624 --> 00:21:57,323
Really...
354
00:21:57,324 --> 00:21:58,802
Sick.
355
00:21:58,803 --> 00:22:01,983
Very much illness here.
356
00:22:02,573 --> 00:22:06,114
I feel like lots of breathing problems.
357
00:22:06,115 --> 00:22:08,876
Like people might have some...
358
00:22:08,877 --> 00:22:11,037
Seizures.
359
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,600
[Bleep]
360
00:22:15,624 --> 00:22:17,153
Ugh. [Chuckles]
361
00:22:17,154 --> 00:22:20,390
I can't even, like, talk. Like, it's...
362
00:22:20,391 --> 00:22:22,491
[Groans]
363
00:22:42,346 --> 00:22:48,246
I'm at the local library to see what else
I can uncover about the property's past.
364
00:22:51,045 --> 00:22:52,987
While looking through
newspaper archives,
365
00:22:52,988 --> 00:22:58,888
I discover a drowning that
occurred right on the hotel grounds.
366
00:23:03,859 --> 00:23:06,846
Now that I know that a kid died right
in the creek on my client's property,
367
00:23:06,847 --> 00:23:09,061
I need to find out what happened.
368
00:23:09,062 --> 00:23:11,465
I'm on my way to meet
with a local crime writer,
369
00:23:11,466 --> 00:23:17,366
who says that tragedy is one of
several that hit the Riverside.
370
00:23:25,958 --> 00:23:29,457
I came across this kid that drowned right
here on the property I'm investigating.
371
00:23:29,458 --> 00:23:31,466
- Yes.
- What can you tell me about that?
372
00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:34,774
That happened in August of 1979.
373
00:23:34,775 --> 00:23:35,654
Okay.
374
00:23:35,655 --> 00:23:38,263
Young man's name was Robert Griffith.
375
00:23:38,264 --> 00:23:39,636
Here you go.
376
00:23:39,637 --> 00:23:42,435
He was swimming with some
friends in the river here,
377
00:23:42,436 --> 00:23:46,147
and was taken under and drowned.
378
00:23:46,148 --> 00:23:47,666
All right. So, this was an accident?
379
00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:50,758
It was an accident, yeah. And they...
380
00:23:50,759 --> 00:23:54,249
Were kind of common in French
Creek, as a matter of fact.
381
00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:55,568
What do you mean by common?
382
00:23:55,569 --> 00:23:59,453
Well, there was a young man who drowned
in the river almost in the same spot.
383
00:23:59,454 --> 00:24:02,221
The very next year. His
name was Michael Catalano.
384
00:24:02,222 --> 00:24:05,068
And I happened to find a
picture of him here for you.
385
00:24:05,069 --> 00:24:07,544
Uh, it was similar circumstances.
386
00:24:07,545 --> 00:24:11,234
He was in swimming and
was taken under and uh...
387
00:24:11,235 --> 00:24:13,741
- And drowned.
- Now, is the river that bad?
388
00:24:13,742 --> 00:24:16,039
Well, the river is kind of deceptive.
389
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,997
It looks calm, but it runs deep.
390
00:24:18,998 --> 00:24:23,061
There's a lot of current in it
to trip you up and pull you under.
391
00:24:23,062 --> 00:24:28,962
French Creek has taken a lot
of lives up and down its length.
392
00:24:38,918 --> 00:24:42,878
There's some people in the water.
393
00:24:44,791 --> 00:24:48,046
They're bloated. I think they're dead.
394
00:24:48,047 --> 00:24:53,338
And there's a woman, this mournful
woman, and she's desperate.
395
00:24:53,339 --> 00:24:55,701
She likes to jump people.
396
00:24:55,702 --> 00:24:58,553
She wants to make
people go in the water.
397
00:24:58,554 --> 00:25:02,506
Would you say this depressed
woman by the river is dangerous?
398
00:25:02,507 --> 00:25:03,909
Yes.
399
00:25:03,910 --> 00:25:05,624
She's, um...
400
00:25:05,625 --> 00:25:08,193
Trying to get me to go in the water.
401
00:25:08,194 --> 00:25:11,734
Can you describe it at all?
402
00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:14,152
She's in me.
403
00:25:14,153 --> 00:25:17,093
Well, inside of me.
404
00:25:18,936 --> 00:25:20,515
So, Don, I've exhausted,
405
00:25:20,516 --> 00:25:23,376
about everything I can investigating
the location, but you had mentioned
406
00:25:23,377 --> 00:25:26,390
on the phone that there were some
other things that might help my case?
407
00:25:26,391 --> 00:25:31,045
You might be interested
in the Doris Hatch case.
408
00:25:31,046 --> 00:25:34,948
- What year was this?
- It was the summer of 1953.
409
00:25:34,949 --> 00:25:40,589
Doris lived literally two
minutes away from here, walking.
410
00:25:40,728 --> 00:25:41,634
Okay.
411
00:25:41,635 --> 00:25:45,775
She was a young lady, 22 years old.
412
00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:47,394
Um...
413
00:25:47,395 --> 00:25:51,496
She worked as a bookkeeper
for a local hardware store.
414
00:25:51,497 --> 00:25:52,815
Okay, so, what happened to her?
415
00:25:52,816 --> 00:25:58,036
She stepped out of the
hardware store and vanished.
416
00:25:58,045 --> 00:26:00,680
Police, once they started investigating,
417
00:26:00,681 --> 00:26:06,140
settled pretty quickly on a
suspect for her disappearance.
418
00:26:06,141 --> 00:26:10,415
And that was William Turner,
her boss at the hardware store.
419
00:26:10,416 --> 00:26:12,339
He's 33.
420
00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:17,283
The day that Doris vanished,
Turner took a business trip.
421
00:26:17,284 --> 00:26:20,660
He was very evasive when he
was questioned by authorities,
422
00:26:20,661 --> 00:26:23,574
as to what that business trip entailed.
423
00:26:23,575 --> 00:26:26,704
Was there any motive behind why
she would have been murdered?
424
00:26:26,705 --> 00:26:29,753
There were persistent rumors
that they were seeing each other,
425
00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:33,246
there was some sort of a romantic
relationship between them.
426
00:26:33,247 --> 00:26:36,109
Don, how long was it before
the body was discovered?
427
00:26:36,110 --> 00:26:39,200
Two 1/2 years later, a
hunter found the body.
428
00:26:39,201 --> 00:26:44,822
She had been stabbed and hacked with
a large bladed weapon, like a machete.
429
00:26:44,823 --> 00:26:47,192
He was tipped off...
430
00:26:47,193 --> 00:26:51,327
To the authorities finding
the body by an Erie newspaper.
431
00:26:51,328 --> 00:26:56,434
And told his wife that he was gonna come
back to Crawford County to clear his name.
432
00:26:56,435 --> 00:26:58,598
Then he took a walk to clear his head.
433
00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:02,183
And when police moved in to
arrest him, he wasn't at home.
434
00:27:02,184 --> 00:27:06,601
They found him propped up against the sea
wall looking out at the Atlantic Ocean.
435
00:27:06,602 --> 00:27:10,100
Dead from a self-inflicted
gunshot wound to the chest.
436
00:27:10,101 --> 00:27:13,085
Did either one of these
people frequent this hotel?
437
00:27:13,086 --> 00:27:16,547
I would say without a doubt,
they have been at the Riverside.
438
00:27:16,548 --> 00:27:21,752
The Riverside, at the time, was a place
for weddings, dinners, Christmas parties.
439
00:27:21,753 --> 00:27:25,953
All that type of thing happened here.
440
00:27:27,466 --> 00:27:32,686
I think there was a dude
who killed a chick here.
441
00:27:36,442 --> 00:27:38,810
It's like there... there...
there was, like, a fight.
442
00:27:38,811 --> 00:27:42,051
They're fighting a lot.
443
00:27:45,318 --> 00:27:47,585
So he killed her. He strangled her.
444
00:27:47,586 --> 00:27:50,225
She says that's what ended her life.
445
00:27:50,226 --> 00:27:52,831
He also seems much older than her.
446
00:27:52,832 --> 00:27:54,665
They were intimate.
447
00:27:54,666 --> 00:27:59,439
She thinks he had it planned out,
like he was gonna murder her anyways.
448
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,460
Like, I'm... hearing them arguing.
449
00:28:03,461 --> 00:28:06,614
And then she's on the floor...
450
00:28:06,615 --> 00:28:09,767
And he's got his knee in her chest.
451
00:28:09,768 --> 00:28:12,572
Like, really squeezing it.
452
00:28:12,573 --> 00:28:15,993
He wants her out of here.
453
00:28:20,586 --> 00:28:23,583
I encountered dozens
of entities on my walk.
454
00:28:23,584 --> 00:28:25,886
He's probably about...
455
00:28:25,887 --> 00:28:28,407
75 years old.
456
00:28:29,728 --> 00:28:32,772
But the leader of the older
clique was the most prominent.
457
00:28:32,773 --> 00:28:35,103
So I decided to sketch him.
458
00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:36,737
He has a cane.
459
00:28:36,738 --> 00:28:39,949
He has a mustache and a beard.
460
00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:44,090
And he has very light, intense eyes.
461
00:28:47,979 --> 00:28:51,039
Is this who you saw?
462
00:28:51,370 --> 00:28:53,230
Yes.
463
00:29:18,542 --> 00:29:21,632
Steve: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations...
464
00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:24,557
We're ready to reveal our
findings to our clients,
465
00:29:24,558 --> 00:29:28,578
and each other for the first time.
466
00:29:28,685 --> 00:29:31,006
Amy, I want you to
meet Larry and Brenda.
467
00:29:31,007 --> 00:29:32,922
They're a married couple.
468
00:29:32,923 --> 00:29:36,114
Their dream was to own the hotel.
469
00:29:36,115 --> 00:29:40,129
And a few years back they actually obtained
that dream, but it came with a price.
470
00:29:40,130 --> 00:29:45,365
The activity's so bad here that the guests
and their employees are scared to be here.
471
00:29:45,366 --> 00:29:47,663
They're afraid that if we
can't help and figure out what's
472
00:29:47,664 --> 00:29:51,240
going on in this place, they
might have to lose the business.
473
00:29:51,241 --> 00:29:54,455
With that, I'm gonna ask Amy to
tell us a little bit about her walk.
474
00:29:54,456 --> 00:29:57,936
And see what she uncovered.
475
00:29:59,249 --> 00:30:02,780
I was out on the grounds,
and I felt like I was...
476
00:30:02,781 --> 00:30:05,185
Seeing this substance.
477
00:30:05,186 --> 00:30:08,758
But I didn't know if it
was oil or water or both.
478
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:13,505
I felt like it had
caused a lot of problems.
479
00:30:13,506 --> 00:30:16,926
And that it's still here.
480
00:30:16,967 --> 00:30:18,334
That's interesting.
481
00:30:18,335 --> 00:30:20,588
The original owner of the property...
482
00:30:20,589 --> 00:30:23,706
And of the hotel itself was a
guy by the name of Dr. Gray.
483
00:30:23,707 --> 00:30:25,474
This is Dr. Gray here.
484
00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:27,275
Mm.
485
00:30:27,419 --> 00:30:29,733
Interesting.
486
00:30:29,734 --> 00:30:34,423
Back in 1859, when he acquired the
property, he started looking for oil.
487
00:30:34,424 --> 00:30:36,924
But what he did discover
was mineral water.
488
00:30:36,925 --> 00:30:38,327
Oh.
489
00:30:38,328 --> 00:30:41,530
And he found out there were
high levels of magnesium in it.
490
00:30:41,531 --> 00:30:47,336
He decided that, with the mineral water, to
make this place into a wellness Sanitarium.
491
00:30:47,337 --> 00:30:49,497
Oh, wow.
492
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:54,862
Here's a picture of what
it looked like back then.
493
00:30:54,863 --> 00:30:59,615
Interesting, because I
heard the word convalescent.
494
00:30:59,616 --> 00:31:01,673
I saw...
495
00:31:01,674 --> 00:31:03,789
A lot of sick people.
496
00:31:03,790 --> 00:31:08,975
I saw women dressed like nurses,
and I saw a lot of gurneys.
497
00:31:08,976 --> 00:31:11,567
Now, this is one of the original
ads we were able to find.
498
00:31:11,568 --> 00:31:15,316
And basically it says that whatever ails
you, this mineral water would cure it.
499
00:31:15,317 --> 00:31:17,883
Now, I want to show you what
the mineral water looked like.
500
00:31:17,884 --> 00:31:19,326
This is interesting.
501
00:31:19,327 --> 00:31:21,423
They actually bottled
it here in the basement.
502
00:31:21,424 --> 00:31:24,353
You see, it's 1886, Riverside Inn.
503
00:31:24,354 --> 00:31:26,872
- So, they'd just come here and drink it?
- Yeah.
504
00:31:26,873 --> 00:31:29,917
The people that did come
here, they were all sick.
505
00:31:29,918 --> 00:31:34,598
Really? Because I was
sick the entire walk.
506
00:31:34,953 --> 00:31:37,705
Very dizzy, a lot of confusion.
507
00:31:37,706 --> 00:31:40,042
There was severe pain in my head.
508
00:31:40,043 --> 00:31:42,504
I almost vomited at one point.
509
00:31:42,505 --> 00:31:47,125
The living here would
probably experience...
510
00:31:47,515 --> 00:31:49,831
Uh, headaches and nausea.
511
00:31:49,832 --> 00:31:51,692
Hmm.
512
00:31:52,987 --> 00:31:56,463
I might be able to explain that. I
talked to a Professor of Physiology.
513
00:31:56,464 --> 00:31:59,195
He told me magnesium
would never cure anything.
514
00:31:59,196 --> 00:32:02,847
But high contents of
magnesium in your body.
515
00:32:02,848 --> 00:32:04,662
Can make you very sick.
516
00:32:04,663 --> 00:32:08,995
Problems breathing, vomiting,
diarrhea, flushing of the face,
517
00:32:08,996 --> 00:32:11,025
low blood pressure, and dizziness.
518
00:32:11,026 --> 00:32:16,660
And in extreme cases, people have
cardiac arrest and actually die.
519
00:32:16,661 --> 00:32:21,718
We know that at least six people
dropped dead right on the property.
520
00:32:21,719 --> 00:32:24,179
Oh, my gosh.
521
00:32:24,221 --> 00:32:27,257
So, most of the people were
kind of O.D.'ing on this?
522
00:32:27,258 --> 00:32:29,024
Yeah. Basically, yeah.
523
00:32:29,025 --> 00:32:34,925
So, instead of getting better, people
might have killed themselves doing it.
524
00:32:36,901 --> 00:32:38,134
So, what else did you see?
525
00:32:38,135 --> 00:32:41,881
What I noticed was that there were
three different cliques of dead people.
526
00:32:41,882 --> 00:32:45,811
So, there was, like, the group
of elderly people, young adults...
527
00:32:45,812 --> 00:32:50,492
And then what the elderly referred
to as the juvenile delinquents.
528
00:32:50,493 --> 00:32:53,959
The leader of this
elderly group of people
529
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,145
was this guy who had
white hair, a white beard.
530
00:32:58,146 --> 00:32:59,946
He walked with a cane.
531
00:32:59,947 --> 00:33:03,484
And he was just yelling about how...
532
00:33:03,485 --> 00:33:07,092
These two other cliques were obnoxious.
533
00:33:07,093 --> 00:33:10,282
He was very um, authoritative.
534
00:33:10,283 --> 00:33:12,235
You get a good look at this guy?
535
00:33:12,236 --> 00:33:14,710
I sketched the man I saw.
536
00:33:14,711 --> 00:33:19,091
Well, let's take a look at the sketch.
537
00:33:30,221 --> 00:33:33,434
To me, this actually looks like
a younger version of Dr. Gray.
538
00:33:33,435 --> 00:33:36,555
You guys take a look.
539
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:42,499
See, the nose, to me,
is what's so accurate.
540
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,380
And even the eyes.
541
00:33:46,184 --> 00:33:48,874
- Yeah, the nostrils.
- Mm hmm.
542
00:33:48,875 --> 00:33:50,795
Yeah.
543
00:33:52,094 --> 00:33:55,679
The expression looks the same.
544
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,348
So, do you think that the
guy with the cane is Dr. Gray?
545
00:33:58,349 --> 00:34:01,169
I think so, yeah.
546
00:34:02,137 --> 00:34:05,918
Now, do these cliques do anything that
can affect the people that are living?
547
00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:10,226
There were specifically three
ways of experiencing them.
548
00:34:10,227 --> 00:34:15,829
The young adults, they're into movement,
moving objects, things like that.
549
00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:19,414
And they're fascinated by the
electricity and what it can do
550
00:34:19,415 --> 00:34:22,641
and what they can do with it
and all that kind of stuff.
551
00:34:22,642 --> 00:34:27,286
And then the little juvenile
delinquents are really bad.
552
00:34:27,287 --> 00:34:30,686
They spy on people.
That's their big thing.
553
00:34:30,687 --> 00:34:34,214
The living will often feel watched...
554
00:34:34,215 --> 00:34:36,675
Um, by them.
555
00:34:37,555 --> 00:34:39,871
Literally, any time I'm
walking the hallways upstairs.
556
00:34:39,872 --> 00:34:44,672
I know I'm being
watched. You just feel it.
557
00:34:45,496 --> 00:34:47,648
For at least 10 years...
558
00:34:47,649 --> 00:34:50,346
There have been lights
that come on by themselves,
559
00:34:50,347 --> 00:34:53,133
and when we're closed for the
winter, the building is locked.
560
00:34:53,134 --> 00:34:58,193
Somebody will call and say, oh, there was
a light on on the third floor last night.
561
00:34:58,194 --> 00:35:00,835
And I know nobody's been there.
562
00:35:00,836 --> 00:35:03,479
The other thing she brought up was
another thing we talked about...
563
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,148
Stuff moving, disappearing.
564
00:35:05,149 --> 00:35:09,609
Props, costumes, disappear,
but they always come back.
565
00:35:09,610 --> 00:35:12,723
It's like they're playing
games. They always are.
566
00:35:12,724 --> 00:35:15,363
Could they do a lot more
damage in the future?
567
00:35:15,364 --> 00:35:18,598
Oh well yeah, more and more
devices, will be affected,
568
00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:23,759
as they learn how to do
this really, really well.
569
00:35:23,864 --> 00:35:27,971
Just like the living, the dead can become
fixated on developing their abilities.
570
00:35:27,972 --> 00:35:31,219
And the more they practice, the
more they learn to manipulate energy,
571
00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:34,340
and their surroundings.
572
00:35:34,746 --> 00:35:36,980
Steve: So, a lot of stuff
so far. Anything else?
573
00:35:36,981 --> 00:35:38,115
Mm-hmm.
574
00:35:38,116 --> 00:35:42,719
The next thing I saw was a bad
scene when I was on the second floor.
575
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:46,620
I saw a man who killed a woman.
576
00:35:47,275 --> 00:35:50,595
They were intimate with each
other. He was much older than her.
577
00:35:50,596 --> 00:35:51,899
They were fighting.
578
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:56,808
I saw him kneeling on her chest
and strangled her in a weird way.
579
00:35:56,809 --> 00:36:01,371
I did come across one murder, but I'm not
sure if it's the one you're talking about.
580
00:36:01,372 --> 00:36:04,374
A woman by the name of Doris
Hatch. She was a 22-year-old girl.
581
00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:07,447
She lived a two-minute
walk from the hotel here.
582
00:36:07,448 --> 00:36:10,201
This is Doris Hatch.
583
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:12,395
Back in '53, she goes missing.
584
00:36:12,396 --> 00:36:15,734
The person they think responsible for
her death was this guy, William Turner...
585
00:36:15,735 --> 00:36:18,195
This is him.
586
00:36:19,090 --> 00:36:21,124
You had said that she was
younger and he was older?
587
00:36:21,125 --> 00:36:25,361
Well, she was 22, he was 33, and
they were intimately involved.
588
00:36:25,362 --> 00:36:27,499
- Was he married?
- He was.
589
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,404
Uh-huh. Yeah.
590
00:36:29,405 --> 00:36:31,336
She doesn't get found for two 1/2 years.
591
00:36:31,337 --> 00:36:34,742
And when she does get found, her body's
so decomposed that the best they can do
592
00:36:34,743 --> 00:36:38,007
is figure out that she was
hacked to death with a machete.
593
00:36:38,008 --> 00:36:38,909
Oh.
594
00:36:38,910 --> 00:36:42,078
I think that they were in the
building and they did fight here,
595
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,815
but I didn't see him
hack her up for anything.
596
00:36:44,816 --> 00:36:47,417
- But you got that she was murdered?
- Yes.
597
00:36:47,418 --> 00:36:49,758
[Both sigh]
598
00:36:52,523 --> 00:36:54,489
What else did you see?
599
00:36:54,490 --> 00:36:58,167
I saw people on the
ground, and they were dead.
600
00:36:58,168 --> 00:37:02,065
And their bodies were bloated,
so I got that they drowned.
601
00:37:02,066 --> 00:37:04,968
Well, that's easy enough to explain.
This is French Creek out here.
602
00:37:04,969 --> 00:37:07,737
It actually runs over a hundred
miles. It's actually a river.
603
00:37:07,738 --> 00:37:10,387
And there's been a lot of
drownings associated with it.
604
00:37:10,388 --> 00:37:13,373
Two of those drownings actually
took place right on the property.
605
00:37:13,374 --> 00:37:17,852
Back in '79, this kid here,
Robert Alan Griffith, 17 years old.
606
00:37:17,853 --> 00:37:19,749
Went in the water and he drowned.
607
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:24,787
A year later, a kid named Michael
Catalano, right here again, drowned.
608
00:37:24,788 --> 00:37:28,483
He was 24 years old at the time.
609
00:37:28,484 --> 00:37:33,596
When I was trying to leave,
I kept going to the water.
610
00:37:33,597 --> 00:37:36,466
I saw this woman. She
jumped inside of me.
611
00:37:36,467 --> 00:37:40,570
She was trying to make me
go in the water and drown.
612
00:37:40,571 --> 00:37:41,290
Oh.
613
00:37:41,291 --> 00:37:45,876
She was feeling very desperate,
and she was in mourning.
614
00:37:45,877 --> 00:37:50,303
She's the only entity that
I came into contact with...
615
00:37:50,304 --> 00:37:52,648
That I felt an immediate threat from.
616
00:37:52,649 --> 00:37:55,388
Now, when you say she jumped you,
she went into your body physically?
617
00:37:55,389 --> 00:37:56,201
Yes.
618
00:37:56,202 --> 00:37:59,007
You don't think that she's responsible
for the death of these two kids?
619
00:37:59,008 --> 00:38:00,656
It's a possibility.
620
00:38:00,657 --> 00:38:04,895
What about the guests that go near
the water, could they be at risk?
621
00:38:04,896 --> 00:38:06,756
Yes.
622
00:38:07,464 --> 00:38:11,724
She's capable of jumping other people.
623
00:38:24,658 --> 00:38:27,672
Steve: Now, when you say she jumped
you, she went into your body physically?
624
00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:28,477
Yes.
625
00:38:28,478 --> 00:38:31,280
You don't think that she's responsible
for the death of these two kids?
626
00:38:31,281 --> 00:38:32,929
It's a possibility.
627
00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:38,830
What about the guests that go near
the water, could they be at risk?
628
00:38:39,467 --> 00:38:41,327
Yes.
629
00:38:41,604 --> 00:38:45,864
She's capable of jumping other people.
630
00:38:50,259 --> 00:38:53,296
You got that look that you guys are a
little worried about your guests now.
631
00:38:53,297 --> 00:38:57,782
Larry: That makes me concerned.
The water has always been a concern.
632
00:38:57,783 --> 00:39:01,085
Guests are here all
the time for weddings.
633
00:39:01,086 --> 00:39:04,154
You know, a wedding
reception that's outside,
634
00:39:04,155 --> 00:39:08,293
kids running around, we certainly
don't need anyone helping them go over.
635
00:39:08,294 --> 00:39:11,174
Mnh-mnh-mnh-mnh.
636
00:39:11,229 --> 00:39:12,930
Larry and Brenda, listen.
637
00:39:12,931 --> 00:39:17,046
You got hit with a lot of
information today, a lot of history.
638
00:39:17,047 --> 00:39:19,393
The big question is,
is it safe for you guys,
639
00:39:19,394 --> 00:39:21,837
your employees, and
your guests to be here?
640
00:39:21,838 --> 00:39:26,938
For that answer, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
641
00:39:27,178 --> 00:39:30,080
Obviously, I don't care
for the woman outside.
642
00:39:30,081 --> 00:39:33,758
I think that she is possibly...
643
00:39:33,759 --> 00:39:36,517
A threat to the living.
644
00:39:36,518 --> 00:39:42,098
So, what I would recommend
is to find a psychotherapist.
645
00:39:42,339 --> 00:39:47,260
You can go to the local university,
go to their Psych Department.
646
00:39:47,261 --> 00:39:51,364
But this psychotherapist
also needs to be a medium.
647
00:39:51,365 --> 00:39:56,487
This individual should come
and work with the woman outside.
648
00:39:56,488 --> 00:39:59,026
Just to talk to her, find out what's up,
649
00:39:59,027 --> 00:40:03,812
what's going on, why is
she here, all of that.
650
00:40:03,813 --> 00:40:07,415
The second thing is to do a
cleansing of this building.
651
00:40:07,416 --> 00:40:12,290
And what this will do is help with
the removal of some of the residual...
652
00:40:12,291 --> 00:40:16,049
Uh, that's here, and also
some of the dead that are here.
653
00:40:16,050 --> 00:40:18,123
Then what I would recommend,
654
00:40:18,124 --> 00:40:22,434
is you teach the housekeepers
how to do this basic cleansing.
655
00:40:22,435 --> 00:40:28,335
And that one time per week they
incorporate it into their regular duties.
656
00:40:28,471 --> 00:40:32,791
As far as the cliques that I
encountered, the three main cliques...
657
00:40:32,792 --> 00:40:35,702
I don't feel personally
threatened by them.
658
00:40:35,703 --> 00:40:40,079
They're just more chaotic
within each other's groups.
659
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,625
It's not with any malevolent or...
660
00:40:43,626 --> 00:40:46,623
Malicious intent towards the living.
661
00:40:46,624 --> 00:40:50,285
It's up to you if you want to tell
the sensitive to remove them or not.
662
00:40:50,286 --> 00:40:54,641
Um, some may just leave anyway
if they're tired of being here.
663
00:40:54,642 --> 00:40:56,591
Let me ask you. What about the medium?
664
00:40:56,592 --> 00:40:59,466
Will she move on our Dr. Gray?
665
00:40:59,467 --> 00:41:02,472
I wouldn't try to move him on.
666
00:41:02,473 --> 00:41:06,706
Um, but if he chooses
to go, then he can leave.
667
00:41:06,707 --> 00:41:10,247
- He's not a threat?
- No.
668
00:41:10,311 --> 00:41:14,577
The ultimate question is once they do
all this, do you think they'll be okay?
669
00:41:14,578 --> 00:41:16,233
I think so, yes.
670
00:41:16,234 --> 00:41:19,395
Now, you guys got to be relieved. I mean,
this was your dream to own this place.
671
00:41:19,396 --> 00:41:21,915
- Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
- Larry: Absolutely.
672
00:41:21,916 --> 00:41:26,933
I'm really glad that we can
actually aid people in moving on.
673
00:41:26,934 --> 00:41:30,354
If they need to move on
and keep our guests safe.
674
00:41:30,355 --> 00:41:34,366
That, above all, is
very important to us.
675
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:38,567
Just knowing that there's a solution.
676
00:41:38,862 --> 00:41:42,282
And that everyone is safe.
677
00:41:42,382 --> 00:41:45,317
Our guests are safe, we're safe.
678
00:41:45,318 --> 00:41:48,455
Our employees are safe.
679
00:41:48,456 --> 00:41:51,396
It's a big relief.
680
00:41:51,779 --> 00:41:54,492
Amy: With so much death
surrounding this location.
681
00:41:54,493 --> 00:41:57,975
Brenda and Larry had their
work cut out for them.
682
00:41:57,976 --> 00:42:02,161
I really hope they follow my advice
and get rid of the woman by the creek.
683
00:42:02,162 --> 00:42:06,877
Or their next event might
not have a happy ending.
684
00:42:06,878 --> 00:42:12,778
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