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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:11,457 --> 00:00:14,369 Something is not right. 3 00:00:14,370 --> 00:00:15,961 Angry... very angry. 4 00:00:15,962 --> 00:00:18,530 I wake up with scratches. 5 00:00:18,531 --> 00:00:21,199 They're all losing it. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,157 There's a war going on. 7 00:00:23,158 --> 00:00:25,671 I see this thing, like, whispering in their ear. 8 00:00:25,672 --> 00:00:27,409 It's something evil. 9 00:00:27,410 --> 00:00:29,223 They're kind of being possessed. 10 00:00:29,224 --> 00:00:30,966 This is demonic. 11 00:00:30,967 --> 00:00:33,244 They're trying to kill me. 12 00:00:33,245 --> 00:00:37,685 They're not safe anywhere in this house. 13 00:00:37,884 --> 00:00:39,618 They're being watched. 14 00:00:39,619 --> 00:00:42,739 My name is Amy Allan. 15 00:00:43,122 --> 00:00:45,323 This thing likes death. 16 00:00:45,324 --> 00:00:46,934 I see dead people. 17 00:00:46,935 --> 00:00:48,506 This thing's, like, a monster. 18 00:00:48,507 --> 00:00:50,611 I speak to dead people. 19 00:00:50,612 --> 00:00:52,263 And he's pissed off now. 20 00:00:52,264 --> 00:00:53,712 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:53,713 --> 00:00:55,200 His head was cracked. 22 00:00:55,201 --> 00:00:58,914 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:58,915 --> 00:01:00,138 This guy was murdered. 24 00:01:00,139 --> 00:01:01,813 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:01,814 --> 00:01:05,169 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 26 00:01:05,170 --> 00:01:07,980 I cannot help you unless I know the whole story. 27 00:01:07,981 --> 00:01:11,198 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 28 00:01:11,199 --> 00:01:12,540 You saw her? 29 00:01:12,541 --> 00:01:13,853 It's my job to reveal them. 30 00:01:13,854 --> 00:01:15,020 Why would you stay here? 31 00:01:15,021 --> 00:01:17,184 But Steve and I never speak... 32 00:01:17,185 --> 00:01:19,314 We never communicate during an investigation. 33 00:01:19,315 --> 00:01:20,690 Until the very end. 34 00:01:20,691 --> 00:01:22,575 [ Echoing ] Stop it. 35 00:01:22,576 --> 00:01:24,408 We uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 36 00:01:24,409 --> 00:01:26,990 Woman: I want to know the truth. I want to know what's happening. 37 00:01:26,991 --> 00:01:28,274 Or time to get out. 38 00:01:28,275 --> 00:01:33,735 [ Crying ] I told you there were ghosts in this house. 39 00:01:49,022 --> 00:01:53,291 Di Schiavi: It's crucial that Amy and I conduct separate investigations. 40 00:01:53,292 --> 00:01:56,716 I interview witnesses, research the history of the location, 41 00:01:56,717 --> 00:02:02,617 and uncover secrets from the past, while Amy speaks to the dead. 42 00:02:04,285 --> 00:02:06,912 I'm in the small resort town of Watervliet, Michigan, 43 00:02:06,913 --> 00:02:09,296 a few hours outside of Detroit. 44 00:02:09,297 --> 00:02:11,932 Amy and I were called in by a woman named Amanda. 45 00:02:11,933 --> 00:02:14,935 When I spoke to her on the phone, her message was simple... 46 00:02:14,936 --> 00:02:18,572 You guys need to help me, or this house is gonna kill me. 47 00:02:18,573 --> 00:02:24,473 Obviously, this is a serious situation, and I'm hoping Amy and I can help her out. 48 00:02:28,817 --> 00:02:33,754 Anderson: Before Amy arrives, I have to clear the area of any leading information. 49 00:02:33,755 --> 00:02:38,125 I can tell from the photos alone that a couple with kids live here. 50 00:02:38,126 --> 00:02:44,026 So I have to carefully remove any evidence of this before Amy begins her walk. 51 00:02:58,079 --> 00:03:01,471 Allan: I'm seeing a lot of physical activity. 52 00:03:01,472 --> 00:03:04,354 There's something around that's... 53 00:03:04,355 --> 00:03:06,513 Uh, creepy. 54 00:03:06,514 --> 00:03:12,414 There's a dead person or entity that's a controller of this location. 55 00:03:13,304 --> 00:03:15,328 I think it might be a child. 56 00:03:15,329 --> 00:03:18,735 Something about hidden truth, I think, was specifically what they said... 57 00:03:18,736 --> 00:03:21,196 Hidden truth. 58 00:03:33,815 --> 00:03:36,532 Di Schiavi: Well, Amanda, you sounded pretty desperate on the phone, 59 00:03:36,533 --> 00:03:38,185 so why don't you explain what's happening? 60 00:03:38,186 --> 00:03:40,721 I'm beyond scared for my safety. 61 00:03:40,722 --> 00:03:43,492 I'm pretty much scared for my life. 62 00:03:43,493 --> 00:03:48,963 My health has seriously declined since I moved back here three years ago. 63 00:03:48,964 --> 00:03:52,332 And because of that, I've put on weight... 64 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:56,134 And about two months ago, I had a heart attack. 65 00:03:56,135 --> 00:03:58,358 - And you're how old now? - 32. 66 00:03:58,359 --> 00:04:00,583 - That's really young for a heart attack. - It is. 67 00:04:00,584 --> 00:04:03,270 Was it because of the weight gain that this caused the heart attack, 68 00:04:03,271 --> 00:04:05,312 or did the doctor say what may have caused it? 69 00:04:05,313 --> 00:04:10,124 They don't know what caused it. They did tests, and there was no blockages. 70 00:04:10,125 --> 00:04:12,023 Okay. And what else has happened? 71 00:04:12,024 --> 00:04:14,568 I've been scratched and burned. 72 00:04:14,569 --> 00:04:20,110 I'm fearful for myself and for my boyfriend and for his kids. 73 00:04:20,111 --> 00:04:21,389 Are they here all the time? 74 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,831 No, they just come to visit... usually on weekends. 75 00:04:23,832 --> 00:04:26,016 - Does anybody else live in the house? - Yes. 76 00:04:26,017 --> 00:04:29,402 My mother and a friend of the family does stay in the basement, as well. 77 00:04:29,403 --> 00:04:31,805 I'm gonna ask the obvious thing... why are you staying here? 78 00:04:31,806 --> 00:04:37,706 I came back to the area because my dad was sick, and finances are a big problem. 79 00:04:37,917 --> 00:04:40,394 What's your biggest concern, then? 80 00:04:40,395 --> 00:04:42,134 Dying. 81 00:04:42,135 --> 00:04:43,751 I feel like they're... 82 00:04:43,752 --> 00:04:46,486 They're systematically trying to kill me... 83 00:04:46,487 --> 00:04:49,907 Whatever is in this house. 84 00:04:56,430 --> 00:05:02,250 Allan: There's this thing in this house that's really bad. 85 00:05:04,472 --> 00:05:08,672 The people here have no ability to... 86 00:05:09,989 --> 00:05:13,169 Not be influenced by... 87 00:05:13,347 --> 00:05:15,249 These dead people. 88 00:05:15,250 --> 00:05:19,098 Like, they can be unhealthy, they can't take care of themselves, 89 00:05:19,099 --> 00:05:22,255 they can't sleep and can't eat right, and... 90 00:05:22,256 --> 00:05:25,569 Because either they eat too much or they don't eat enough. 91 00:05:25,570 --> 00:05:30,010 They're not safe anywhere in this house. 92 00:05:30,687 --> 00:05:33,167 I started to sense that the influential presence 93 00:05:33,168 --> 00:05:37,021 in this house was targeting one person in particular. 94 00:05:37,022 --> 00:05:40,880 This thing can easily access this person's mind. 95 00:05:40,881 --> 00:05:45,741 It can make this person do anything it wants. 96 00:05:52,386 --> 00:05:55,990 Di Schiavi: So, what's happening in here? 97 00:05:55,991 --> 00:05:59,874 I wake up with scratches and burns, actually. 98 00:05:59,875 --> 00:06:00,995 What do these look like? 99 00:06:00,996 --> 00:06:03,605 I have some pictures here of some of them. 100 00:06:03,606 --> 00:06:06,786 - Okay. - You can see. 101 00:06:09,104 --> 00:06:10,809 You just woke up and that burn was there? 102 00:06:10,810 --> 00:06:11,612 Yeah. 103 00:06:11,613 --> 00:06:14,108 There a candle or anything that could have did this to you? 104 00:06:14,109 --> 00:06:15,909 No. 105 00:06:16,064 --> 00:06:18,978 And this is none of the animals you're living with or anything like that? 106 00:06:18,979 --> 00:06:20,877 No, absolutely not. 107 00:06:20,878 --> 00:06:24,163 So, Amanda, looking at this I would imagine it's got to be tough sleeping at night. 108 00:06:24,164 --> 00:06:28,355 Yeah. Sometimes I find myself sleepwalking. 109 00:06:28,356 --> 00:06:32,910 I've had bruises on my calves from where I've run into things, and... 110 00:06:32,911 --> 00:06:35,963 It's, um... it's gotten out of control. 111 00:06:35,964 --> 00:06:38,966 I've developed sleep apnea and insomnia. 112 00:06:38,967 --> 00:06:41,396 When I do sleep, I have bad dreams. 113 00:06:41,397 --> 00:06:47,297 I had a dream that we were driving Mike's kids home and we were hit by a semi. 114 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:56,750 I see this thing, like, kind of standing at this person's back, being like... 115 00:06:56,751 --> 00:06:59,052 You know, like, whispering in their ear, 116 00:06:59,053 --> 00:07:02,256 like, do this or do that, and the person can't sleep. 117 00:07:02,257 --> 00:07:04,691 And if they sleep, then it's really bad, 118 00:07:04,692 --> 00:07:07,460 like invasions in the sleep or something like... 119 00:07:07,461 --> 00:07:09,141 What do you mean? 120 00:07:09,142 --> 00:07:11,563 Maybe it's like a trance state. 121 00:07:11,564 --> 00:07:15,669 Like, they're seeing where they're going, but they don't have any control over it. 122 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:18,071 You know, and then they're, like, startled... 123 00:07:18,072 --> 00:07:19,884 - Okay... - Which is really... 124 00:07:19,885 --> 00:07:23,725 Kind of unnerving, uh, because... 125 00:07:24,645 --> 00:07:26,880 Well, then they're kind of being possessed. 126 00:07:26,881 --> 00:07:30,421 [ Distorted voice ] Possessed. 127 00:07:35,824 --> 00:07:38,926 Di Schiavi: What's going on in the kitchen? 128 00:07:38,927 --> 00:07:43,363 One time, I was just grabbing something out of the pantry, 129 00:07:43,364 --> 00:07:47,090 and I turned around, and there was a man standing next to me. 130 00:07:47,091 --> 00:07:48,837 Okay. So, describe him for me. 131 00:07:48,838 --> 00:07:51,972 - He was a little taller than I was, thin. - Okay. 132 00:07:51,973 --> 00:07:55,664 He had a square jaw and a button-down shirt. 133 00:07:55,665 --> 00:07:59,385 If you were to see a photo, would you be able to recognize if it's the same person? 134 00:07:59,386 --> 00:08:02,950 Yeah. I think he was trying to warn me that there's something else in the house. 135 00:08:02,951 --> 00:08:05,510 And that I needed to do something about it. 136 00:08:05,511 --> 00:08:07,431 Okay. 137 00:08:15,196 --> 00:08:18,736 Something is not right here. 138 00:08:19,787 --> 00:08:22,487 This is a male. 139 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:25,281 And he is not that old. 140 00:08:25,282 --> 00:08:28,642 He is, like, in his 50s. 141 00:08:28,809 --> 00:08:30,945 He's, like... 142 00:08:30,946 --> 00:08:33,766 Angry. Very angry. 143 00:08:35,083 --> 00:08:38,083 Something in this house is wreaking havoc, 144 00:08:38,084 --> 00:08:41,180 but I don't think this angry man is the one influencing the living. 145 00:08:41,181 --> 00:08:43,316 He's not advanced enough. 146 00:08:43,317 --> 00:08:46,793 He's just getting pissed off and beating on the walls. 147 00:08:46,794 --> 00:08:48,591 And, like, stomping on the floors. 148 00:08:48,592 --> 00:08:52,065 He's trying to put it back the way he knows it to be. 149 00:08:52,066 --> 00:08:57,966 Like, he's trying to take down the things that don't make sense to him. 150 00:08:57,979 --> 00:09:03,879 Amanda: This is where the scariest thing that I've encountered happened. 151 00:09:04,512 --> 00:09:07,385 I felt like I was in some sort of trance... 152 00:09:07,386 --> 00:09:11,360 And I came out of it, and I found myself standing... 153 00:09:11,361 --> 00:09:13,812 At the kitchen counter, spinning a knife. 154 00:09:13,813 --> 00:09:17,204 - Spinning a knife? - Yes. 155 00:09:17,205 --> 00:09:21,795 I later realized that I was having a lot of negative thoughts... 156 00:09:21,796 --> 00:09:23,363 Suicidal thoughts. 157 00:09:23,364 --> 00:09:26,400 Okay. Now, have you ever had suicidal thoughts before? 158 00:09:26,401 --> 00:09:27,401 No. 159 00:09:27,402 --> 00:09:29,554 Did you ever have it again in the house? 160 00:09:29,555 --> 00:09:30,603 No. 161 00:09:30,604 --> 00:09:32,806 Did you tell your boyfriend about it? 162 00:09:32,807 --> 00:09:35,242 - No, I didn't tell anyone. - Why not? 163 00:09:35,243 --> 00:09:37,444 They're already worried for my health. 164 00:09:37,445 --> 00:09:41,292 I don't want them to worry about me taking my life. 165 00:09:41,293 --> 00:09:45,313 I think that whatever's in here... 166 00:09:45,555 --> 00:09:48,231 Is trying to kill me, one way or another... 167 00:09:48,232 --> 00:09:54,132 Either through my health or through making me take my own life. 168 00:09:57,346 --> 00:10:00,432 Allan: What is this thing? 169 00:10:00,433 --> 00:10:03,133 It feels like... 170 00:10:03,332 --> 00:10:05,492 A child? 171 00:10:05,873 --> 00:10:07,907 I feel like... 172 00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:10,800 That it would be a girl. 173 00:10:10,801 --> 00:10:13,801 12- or 13-year-old. 174 00:10:14,105 --> 00:10:17,885 She looks like a shadow person. 175 00:10:19,753 --> 00:10:22,422 She's bad. Whoa! 176 00:10:22,423 --> 00:10:23,935 Anderson: What happened? 177 00:10:23,936 --> 00:10:26,360 [ Girl laughing ] 178 00:10:26,361 --> 00:10:28,503 This girl... 179 00:10:28,504 --> 00:10:30,784 Zapped me. 180 00:10:31,615 --> 00:10:34,795 She [Bleep] ran at me. 181 00:10:35,336 --> 00:10:37,471 I didn't expect this at all. 182 00:10:37,472 --> 00:10:41,841 The entity that's tormenting the people in this house is a little girl. 183 00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:45,778 She's pretty strong. She knows what she's doing. 184 00:10:45,779 --> 00:10:48,215 She took all my energy. 185 00:10:48,216 --> 00:10:53,487 She tries to control all the people that come here. 186 00:10:53,488 --> 00:10:59,388 I think she's influenced somebody to either commit suicide or kill someone. 187 00:11:02,963 --> 00:11:06,372 So, this room is the room that I made for Mike's kids. 188 00:11:06,373 --> 00:11:07,647 Okay. How old are they? 189 00:11:07,648 --> 00:11:10,634 His son is 11, and his daughter is 12. 190 00:11:10,635 --> 00:11:12,433 Have the kids experienced anything up here? 191 00:11:12,434 --> 00:11:16,234 Just last weekend, Mike's son had experiences. 192 00:11:16,235 --> 00:11:19,679 - What happened? - He saw red eyes staring at him. 193 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,100 - Where? - In the hallway. 194 00:11:24,152 --> 00:11:26,780 - Were the dogs up here? - No. The dogs are never up here. 195 00:11:26,781 --> 00:11:28,776 Amanda, let me ask you a question, are you worried 196 00:11:28,777 --> 00:11:30,685 that something's gonna happen to the kids? 197 00:11:30,686 --> 00:11:32,906 Certainly. 198 00:11:36,564 --> 00:11:40,175 Allan: This little girl... she's jealous. 199 00:11:40,176 --> 00:11:43,670 Jealousy between this girl and... 200 00:11:43,671 --> 00:11:46,851 And whoever's in here. 201 00:11:47,041 --> 00:11:49,612 Bad. That's not good. 202 00:11:49,613 --> 00:11:52,760 You said that she might try to influence the living? 203 00:11:52,761 --> 00:11:57,441 - Mm-hmm. - Do you know who that would be? 204 00:11:57,818 --> 00:12:00,331 - It's an adult. - What does she want? 205 00:12:00,332 --> 00:12:03,223 To make her kill them. 206 00:12:03,224 --> 00:12:05,444 Kill who? 207 00:12:06,087 --> 00:12:09,327 Whoever's in this room. 208 00:12:34,061 --> 00:12:38,482 So, Mike, I spoke with Amanda, and she explained what's going on in the house. 209 00:12:38,483 --> 00:12:39,699 And her concerns. 210 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:41,935 - Have you had experiences here? - Yes, I have. 211 00:12:41,936 --> 00:12:44,485 I actually had a few experiences in the bedroom. 212 00:12:44,486 --> 00:12:47,007 Sleeping at night, I feel like there's somebody crawling in bed. 213 00:12:47,008 --> 00:12:50,312 I can feel the bed pressing down like somebody's crawling in bed with me... 214 00:12:50,313 --> 00:12:51,125 Right. 215 00:12:51,126 --> 00:12:53,479 When Amanda will be up in the living room watching TV. 216 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,682 The first time, it scared me, and it happened 217 00:12:55,683 --> 00:12:57,502 for about two weeks after that... every night. 218 00:12:57,503 --> 00:13:00,386 Did it feel like a human or maybe one of the dogs? What did it feel like? 219 00:13:00,387 --> 00:13:01,788 It felt like a human. 220 00:13:01,789 --> 00:13:03,379 Okay. Anything else? 221 00:13:03,380 --> 00:13:05,076 I've heard, actually, a voice. 222 00:13:05,077 --> 00:13:07,861 Again, we were in there, watching TV again at night, 223 00:13:07,862 --> 00:13:10,430 and I heard somebody whisper, how you doing? 224 00:13:10,431 --> 00:13:13,233 And I looked at Amanda. I said, did you say something to me? 225 00:13:13,234 --> 00:13:14,999 She said, no. 226 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,888 Now, when they said, how you doing? Was it a female or a...? 227 00:13:17,889 --> 00:13:20,649 It was a female. 228 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:29,226 She likes to be as scary as possible... 229 00:13:29,917 --> 00:13:34,080 And she's actually pretty good at it. 230 00:13:34,081 --> 00:13:36,565 Like, she crawls in bed with this person 231 00:13:36,566 --> 00:13:41,606 and acts like it's sleeping with... this person. 232 00:13:44,098 --> 00:13:47,053 She yells and screams... 233 00:13:47,054 --> 00:13:48,701 And howls... 234 00:13:48,702 --> 00:13:51,104 [ Girl giggling ] 235 00:13:51,105 --> 00:13:57,005 Which I would think that the living would probably be able to hear. 236 00:14:02,583 --> 00:14:04,035 It's very scary for me, 237 00:14:04,036 --> 00:14:06,920 because it doesn't seem like I'm in control when this is happening. 238 00:14:06,921 --> 00:14:09,082 I have had fits of rage. 239 00:14:09,083 --> 00:14:13,075 I get mad over the littlest things... a question being asked. 240 00:14:13,076 --> 00:14:15,728 I'm afraid that I'm gonna hurt somebody in the house. 241 00:14:15,729 --> 00:14:18,296 - And that's not in your nature? - No, Sir. No, Sir. 242 00:14:18,297 --> 00:14:20,341 Do you feel it's when you're here you get like that? 243 00:14:20,342 --> 00:14:21,145 Yes. 244 00:14:21,146 --> 00:14:23,709 That's got to be a strain on your relationship with Amanda, also. 245 00:14:23,710 --> 00:14:24,737 Yes, it is. 246 00:14:24,738 --> 00:14:26,832 What do you think is going on in this house? 247 00:14:26,833 --> 00:14:29,838 I think it's something evil. 248 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:32,810 - Why don't you just move out? - Because I love her, you know and, 249 00:14:32,811 --> 00:14:38,711 we care for each other and we're helping each other out through this. 250 00:14:41,122 --> 00:14:43,762 So, the girl... 251 00:14:43,925 --> 00:14:48,905 She can go anywhere she wants to in the house. 252 00:14:48,914 --> 00:14:51,662 She can make them feel agitated. 253 00:14:51,663 --> 00:14:53,498 Attaching herself to them. 254 00:14:53,499 --> 00:14:58,239 Draining their energy, making them feel sick. 255 00:15:03,044 --> 00:15:06,055 So, Pat, I was talking to your daughter, and I wanted to talk to you. 256 00:15:06,056 --> 00:15:07,706 - I understand you live here. - Yeah. 257 00:15:07,707 --> 00:15:09,149 You've been living here a long time. 258 00:15:09,150 --> 00:15:11,162 - Close to 17 years. - 17 years? 259 00:15:11,163 --> 00:15:13,586 So, have you experienced anything since you've been here? 260 00:15:13,587 --> 00:15:15,055 No. 261 00:15:15,056 --> 00:15:16,676 Why do you think that is? 262 00:15:16,677 --> 00:15:20,123 I have a relationship with the Lord. 263 00:15:20,124 --> 00:15:23,729 And I think that keeps me from seeing... 264 00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:28,170 Or experiencing anything that is demonic. 265 00:15:28,484 --> 00:15:30,484 And I believe this is demonic. 266 00:15:30,485 --> 00:15:32,617 So, you believe that Amanda is telling me the truth? 267 00:15:32,618 --> 00:15:34,507 I do, absolutely. 268 00:15:34,508 --> 00:15:38,998 Amanda's at risk right now. They're warring over her. 269 00:15:38,999 --> 00:15:40,913 Why her? 270 00:15:40,914 --> 00:15:44,917 Because I believe that God has a special purpose for her. 271 00:15:44,918 --> 00:15:47,802 And she hasn't stepped up to it. 272 00:15:47,803 --> 00:15:52,610 And I still try to encourage her to get back to the faith. 273 00:15:52,611 --> 00:15:55,306 And you believe that if she found her way back to the church... 274 00:15:55,307 --> 00:15:59,199 It doesn't even have to be church... just finds her way back to God, 275 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,599 that that would cease. 276 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,902 [ Clears throat ] 277 00:16:02,903 --> 00:16:07,007 It's really hard to watch as a parent. 278 00:16:07,008 --> 00:16:10,464 I pray that there is a solution. 279 00:16:10,465 --> 00:16:14,545 That she can be the vibrant person. 280 00:16:14,553 --> 00:16:16,767 And have the full life... 281 00:16:16,768 --> 00:16:20,413 You know, the active life that she deserves. 282 00:16:20,414 --> 00:16:22,801 She already had a heart attack. 283 00:16:22,802 --> 00:16:26,402 You worried about losing her? 284 00:16:26,973 --> 00:16:29,529 It crosses my mind. 285 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:32,609 I try not to dwell on the negative. 286 00:16:32,610 --> 00:16:35,402 I know that there's a plan. 287 00:16:35,403 --> 00:16:38,138 What are you hoping that Amy and I can do for your daughter? 288 00:16:38,139 --> 00:16:40,940 I really have no expectations. 289 00:16:40,941 --> 00:16:45,581 I really don't think that there's anything that can be done. 290 00:16:45,582 --> 00:16:49,567 It's only the power of the Lord that's gonna handle it. 291 00:16:49,568 --> 00:16:55,468 There's a war going on between God's Angels and the Devil's Demons. 292 00:16:56,757 --> 00:16:59,397 [ Hinges creak ] 293 00:17:04,643 --> 00:17:10,543 There's, like, really, really, really bad, bad things down here. 294 00:17:10,615 --> 00:17:14,515 Not where I'd be wanting to be. 295 00:17:17,278 --> 00:17:20,613 What the [Bleep] is this? 296 00:17:20,614 --> 00:17:24,562 This old man putzing around and being grumpy and... 297 00:17:24,563 --> 00:17:27,685 Just always angry and pissed off and, 298 00:17:27,686 --> 00:17:30,901 just unhappy and miserable about his life and... 299 00:17:30,902 --> 00:17:34,395 Hates that somebody is down here... 300 00:17:34,396 --> 00:17:37,406 Hates that somebody is in its... 301 00:17:37,407 --> 00:17:39,927 In its space. 302 00:17:40,493 --> 00:17:42,653 He um... 303 00:17:43,123 --> 00:17:45,171 Gets angry. 304 00:17:45,172 --> 00:17:48,074 Whoever hangs out down here is his focus. 305 00:17:48,075 --> 00:17:53,235 And I think he tries to kill them at some point. 306 00:18:06,001 --> 00:18:08,109 Di Schiavi: I really feel for Amanda. 307 00:18:08,110 --> 00:18:12,779 For her, this investigation is literally life and death. 308 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:15,175 Now I'm heading over to meet with a town historian... 309 00:18:15,176 --> 00:18:21,076 Who says Amanda's property is a big part of Watervliet's history. 310 00:18:26,734 --> 00:18:28,799 Schlender: The property you're investigating, Steve, 311 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,560 was purchased and developed by Isaac Swain. 312 00:18:32,561 --> 00:18:35,501 In the early 1830s. 313 00:18:36,017 --> 00:18:39,460 In addition, they had vast holdings of property, 314 00:18:39,461 --> 00:18:44,783 which, at that particular time, was all undeveloped forests and woodlands. 315 00:18:44,784 --> 00:18:50,684 And you can see where he has his name on all of these different plots of land. 316 00:18:53,788 --> 00:18:55,880 And how much property do you think he had altogether? 317 00:18:55,881 --> 00:18:58,333 Upwards of 900 acres. 318 00:18:58,334 --> 00:19:01,406 How did Swain make his mark when he was living here? 319 00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:02,546 What did he do? 320 00:19:02,547 --> 00:19:05,646 Well, he was renowned for his lumber mill. 321 00:19:05,647 --> 00:19:08,570 He had upwards of 50 employees working for him. 322 00:19:08,571 --> 00:19:11,119 It was the biggest mill in Berrien County. 323 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:12,980 Wow. 324 00:19:20,006 --> 00:19:23,182 I'm just seeing, like, woods... 325 00:19:23,183 --> 00:19:26,963 Uh, thick woods, lots of trees. 326 00:19:30,408 --> 00:19:36,201 All I'm getting is somebody, like, saying, too bad about, you know, the trees. 327 00:19:36,202 --> 00:19:38,678 This little old lady's saying, like, too bad about the trees, 328 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:43,059 like, that they cut down all the trees. 329 00:19:44,438 --> 00:19:47,907 Di Schiavi: Daryl knew very little about Isaac Swain's personal life. 330 00:19:47,908 --> 00:19:50,306 So I'm on my way to meet a local author, 331 00:19:50,307 --> 00:19:56,207 who says Swain's time in Watervliet was filled with heartbreak. 332 00:20:01,656 --> 00:20:04,323 Di Schiavi: This guy, Isaac Swain, what were you able to find out? 333 00:20:04,324 --> 00:20:06,960 Well, Isaac Swain and his wife came to Watervliet. 334 00:20:06,961 --> 00:20:09,663 - And they had three children. - Okay. 335 00:20:09,664 --> 00:20:11,583 He had a daughter named Martha... 336 00:20:11,584 --> 00:20:14,527 - Okay. - And she died at the age of 15. 337 00:20:14,528 --> 00:20:19,089 - From what? - Records back then didn't really specify. 338 00:20:19,090 --> 00:20:23,429 Then their youngest son, who was age 3, William, 339 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:25,687 passes away suddenly. 340 00:20:25,688 --> 00:20:29,864 - Right after she died, or... - Exactly... within two years. 341 00:20:29,865 --> 00:20:33,987 But it doesn't stop there. Their second daughter, Louisa... 342 00:20:33,988 --> 00:20:38,347 She had a tragic accident, and it's hard to tell what exactly happened, 343 00:20:38,348 --> 00:20:42,376 but somewhere between the ages of 10 and 14, 344 00:20:42,377 --> 00:20:45,513 she fell and hit her head so hard... 345 00:20:45,514 --> 00:20:49,002 That she became mentally disabled. 346 00:20:49,003 --> 00:20:50,375 She was basically an invalid? 347 00:20:50,376 --> 00:20:53,768 She basically was. She had to have 24-hour care. 348 00:20:53,769 --> 00:20:57,102 I assume Isaac and his wife stayed in the area and took care of the remaining child. 349 00:20:57,103 --> 00:21:02,023 For a while, they did, but, actually, the wife, Vallonia, started to get sick, 350 00:21:02,024 --> 00:21:06,165 and I actually found a picture of her for you. 351 00:21:06,166 --> 00:21:08,004 Now, do we know what kind of illness she had? 352 00:21:08,005 --> 00:21:12,728 The symptoms that they described were somewhat similar to Tuberculosis. 353 00:21:12,729 --> 00:21:17,305 It was important to Isaac to make sure that she had the best care possible. 354 00:21:17,306 --> 00:21:19,914 - You're talking about his wife, Vallonia? - Yes. 355 00:21:19,915 --> 00:21:22,779 So, what they did for three years... 356 00:21:22,780 --> 00:21:27,496 Was travel around the northeast, actually looking for someone to help them, 357 00:21:27,497 --> 00:21:30,019 doctors... looking for a different environment... 358 00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:32,938 - Right. - In hopes that this would help cure her. 359 00:21:32,939 --> 00:21:35,864 - Does she get cured? What happens? - No. Unfortunately... 360 00:21:35,865 --> 00:21:38,700 She does not get cured, and she... 361 00:21:38,701 --> 00:21:41,461 Succumbs to this. 362 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:46,986 Would they have taken Louisa with them on this three-year journey? 363 00:21:46,987 --> 00:21:51,996 Louisa was likely not taken with them because she needed constant care. 364 00:21:51,997 --> 00:21:56,384 She lived with the staff people and the caretakers. 365 00:21:56,385 --> 00:21:58,884 There was a certain amount of stigma associated 366 00:21:58,885 --> 00:22:01,600 with somebody with a mental disability back then. 367 00:22:01,601 --> 00:22:03,497 She had no social interaction whatsoever? 368 00:22:03,498 --> 00:22:04,936 Very little. Very little. 369 00:22:04,937 --> 00:22:07,006 And the only people that she really knew 370 00:22:07,007 --> 00:22:09,841 - was her own family and her caretakers. - Caretakers. 371 00:22:09,842 --> 00:22:15,182 And when her family passed away, she was left alone. 372 00:22:19,052 --> 00:22:22,054 This girl... she died... 373 00:22:22,055 --> 00:22:24,390 Do you know when this was? 374 00:22:24,391 --> 00:22:26,625 A while ago. 375 00:22:26,626 --> 00:22:29,690 Well, I'd say at least 100 years. 376 00:22:29,691 --> 00:22:33,532 The young girl that's been stalking me is extremely powerful. 377 00:22:33,533 --> 00:22:38,448 And I'm starting to see what's causing her to torment the living here. 378 00:22:38,449 --> 00:22:41,907 She has a lot of pain that she's dealing with. 379 00:22:41,908 --> 00:22:46,588 - A lot of pain? - Yeah, physical, physical. 380 00:22:47,770 --> 00:22:50,649 And she's not herself. 381 00:22:50,650 --> 00:22:54,070 She was mentally not okay. 382 00:22:54,773 --> 00:22:57,423 And she puts it like she likes to play with people, 383 00:22:57,424 --> 00:23:01,347 because she wasn't allowed to play with people when she was alive. 384 00:23:01,348 --> 00:23:03,895 Well, and then she was just screaming at me 385 00:23:03,896 --> 00:23:07,803 through the... you know, through the wall. 386 00:23:07,804 --> 00:23:09,601 She's kind of creepy, though. 387 00:23:09,602 --> 00:23:13,742 She's creeping me out a little bit. 388 00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,792 Di Schiavi: I'm at the local library to see what 389 00:23:29,793 --> 00:23:33,689 else I can find out about Amanda's problem. 390 00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:34,917 Digging through the archives, 391 00:23:34,918 --> 00:23:38,497 I uncover an obituary of a young woman named Sadie Smith. 392 00:23:38,498 --> 00:23:41,318 Who died in 1918. 393 00:23:43,847 --> 00:23:46,148 The location of her funeral... 394 00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:49,449 My client's living room. 395 00:23:53,919 --> 00:23:57,659 So, not only does a 32-year-old woman die on the property I'm investigating, 396 00:23:57,660 --> 00:24:00,359 they held her funeral right inside the house. 397 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,797 I'm on my way to meet with a local funeral Director 398 00:24:02,798 --> 00:24:08,698 who promised to look into the town records and give me the whole story. 399 00:24:16,985 --> 00:24:20,050 Roland, I know from other cases, back in the early days, 400 00:24:20,051 --> 00:24:22,517 that people did hold funerals in their homes. 401 00:24:22,518 --> 00:24:24,405 Now, was that common in this area? 402 00:24:24,406 --> 00:24:27,205 Hutchins: Back in 1918, probably 90% of the time, 403 00:24:27,206 --> 00:24:29,491 funerals were held in the home, yes. 404 00:24:29,492 --> 00:24:33,862 Now, Sadie... it said she died from influenza, what were you able to find out? 405 00:24:33,863 --> 00:24:38,512 Well, I was able to obtain a copy of the death certificate. 406 00:24:38,513 --> 00:24:42,317 And she obtained Spanish influenza and had it for about a week, 407 00:24:42,318 --> 00:24:45,953 and then passed away of heart failure. 408 00:24:45,954 --> 00:24:50,445 Possibly, the reason they held the wake in the house was to contain the influenza. 409 00:24:50,446 --> 00:24:53,148 She was young... 32. So, she wasn't married? 410 00:24:53,149 --> 00:24:54,649 No, never married. 411 00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:56,402 - No children? - No children. 412 00:24:56,403 --> 00:24:58,487 So, it had to be tough on the parents, I would think. 413 00:24:58,488 --> 00:25:01,368 Probably was, yeah. 414 00:25:01,857 --> 00:25:04,497 [ Wind blowing ] 415 00:25:08,654 --> 00:25:13,399 Allan: Something took place here where people were crying and... 416 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,620 Screaming. 417 00:25:16,505 --> 00:25:18,436 There was a funeral here. 418 00:25:18,437 --> 00:25:22,251 Where they had the casket, and it was open, 419 00:25:22,252 --> 00:25:25,972 and people were saying goodbye. 420 00:25:27,550 --> 00:25:30,790 This is a young female. 421 00:25:31,321 --> 00:25:36,421 They're all crying, freaking out, just losing it. 422 00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:42,530 So, Roland, what happened with the parents after Sadie dies? 423 00:25:42,531 --> 00:25:44,332 They stayed in the home. 424 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:45,894 Okay. So, she lived with her parents? 425 00:25:45,895 --> 00:25:48,856 Yes, and shortly after Sadie passed away, 426 00:25:48,857 --> 00:25:53,575 the mother, Evelyn, was in frail health for about five years and passed away. 427 00:25:53,576 --> 00:25:59,149 Steve, I was able to find the obituary in the local newspaper on... 428 00:25:59,150 --> 00:26:01,490 Mrs. Smith. 429 00:26:02,185 --> 00:26:04,152 And how old was she when she died? 430 00:26:04,153 --> 00:26:05,519 She was 67. 431 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,489 Did she die of natural causes? 432 00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:09,305 Natural causes there, also... 433 00:26:09,306 --> 00:26:11,860 - From a heart disease. - Okay. 434 00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:14,096 The funeral was not held in that home, though. 435 00:26:14,097 --> 00:26:18,733 They went back to the homestead out south of town and had her funeral there. 436 00:26:18,734 --> 00:26:20,768 So, Roland, what happened with the dad? 437 00:26:20,769 --> 00:26:25,173 His name was John Wallace Smith, and he lived in the house for a few more years, 438 00:26:25,174 --> 00:26:29,965 and then he passed away, and I found his obituary in the local paper, also. 439 00:26:29,966 --> 00:26:31,235 And what'd he die of? 440 00:26:31,236 --> 00:26:33,575 Natural causes from a cerebral hemorrhage. 441 00:26:33,576 --> 00:26:36,385 So, Sadie dies, the mother dies about five years later, 442 00:26:36,386 --> 00:26:40,088 and then the father dies a few years after that, and they all died in the home? 443 00:26:40,089 --> 00:26:42,909 In the home, yes. 444 00:26:46,577 --> 00:26:50,453 So, I'm thinking the elderly man... 445 00:26:50,454 --> 00:26:53,944 Is mad that someone is in... 446 00:26:53,945 --> 00:26:56,106 His space. 447 00:26:56,107 --> 00:27:00,787 I think he spent a lot of time down here. 448 00:27:01,112 --> 00:27:03,401 I'm following this angry man around the basement 449 00:27:03,402 --> 00:27:07,582 as he vents to me about how much he hates the people living here. 450 00:27:07,583 --> 00:27:12,287 Something tragic happened to him, and now I'm experiencing all the pain he endured. 451 00:27:12,288 --> 00:27:17,568 Oh [Bleep] I'm getting a really sharp [Bleep] pain. 452 00:27:17,593 --> 00:27:21,373 Ooh, what the [Bleep] was that? 453 00:27:22,059 --> 00:27:24,686 Then that pain, the head... 454 00:27:24,687 --> 00:27:28,107 That could be an aneurysm. 455 00:27:55,531 --> 00:27:58,327 Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 456 00:27:58,328 --> 00:28:03,769 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 457 00:28:03,770 --> 00:28:05,968 Amy, I want you to meet Amanda and Mike. 458 00:28:05,969 --> 00:28:10,865 Amanda called us in because she's had some serious health issues since she moved in. 459 00:28:10,866 --> 00:28:15,134 She's even had a heart attack, and she's only 32 years old. 460 00:28:15,135 --> 00:28:19,874 Doctors have no explanation for it, but Amanda thinks she knows what's going on. 461 00:28:19,875 --> 00:28:22,791 She actually thinks that this house is killing her. 462 00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,932 With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy, 463 00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:29,733 and she can start telling us about her walk. 464 00:28:31,424 --> 00:28:34,325 Allan: So, I came into this room here, 465 00:28:34,326 --> 00:28:38,196 and I saw a funeral taking place, 466 00:28:38,197 --> 00:28:40,240 for a young female. 467 00:28:40,241 --> 00:28:44,211 There was a casket, it was open, and people were saying their goodbyes. 468 00:28:44,212 --> 00:28:46,123 Well, there was a funeral in this home. 469 00:28:46,124 --> 00:28:50,027 Back in 1914, a girl, Sadie Smith, moved here to this house. 470 00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:55,928 But four years after she moved in here, in 1918, Sadie dies of the Spanish flu. 471 00:28:56,567 --> 00:28:59,727 The flu weakened her heart until it just gave out. 472 00:28:59,728 --> 00:29:02,572 I have her death certificate here. 473 00:29:02,573 --> 00:29:05,876 They have here listed, heart failure. 474 00:29:05,877 --> 00:29:08,277 Amanda: Wow. 475 00:29:10,938 --> 00:29:14,962 Oh, my God. Is that her birth date or her death date? 476 00:29:14,963 --> 00:29:16,186 Birth. 477 00:29:16,187 --> 00:29:19,847 It's three days off of mine. 478 00:29:20,614 --> 00:29:23,014 Oh, my God. 479 00:29:24,423 --> 00:29:27,303 That's just crazy. 480 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,832 What else did you see? 481 00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:34,881 I went to the basement, and there's this... 482 00:29:34,882 --> 00:29:38,112 Very angry little old man down there. 483 00:29:38,113 --> 00:29:40,244 He believes that that's his space, 484 00:29:40,245 --> 00:29:45,451 and he despises whoever is residing there right now. 485 00:29:45,452 --> 00:29:48,905 In fact, he's trying to scare the person. 486 00:29:48,906 --> 00:29:52,562 Um, so that the person will leave. 487 00:29:52,563 --> 00:29:56,760 When I was talking to this guy, I got this really sharp pain in my head. 488 00:29:56,761 --> 00:30:00,903 And I felt like he had passed from an aneurysm. 489 00:30:00,904 --> 00:30:06,804 Now, Sadie's parents lived here, and they actually both died in the house. 490 00:30:07,705 --> 00:30:12,203 The father, John, died at the age of 73 of cerebral hemorrhage. 491 00:30:12,204 --> 00:30:14,724 Wow. Oh, wow. 492 00:30:15,146 --> 00:30:16,910 Mike: The tenant downstairs... 493 00:30:16,911 --> 00:30:19,402 He claims he's seen some things down there. 494 00:30:19,403 --> 00:30:22,352 - Like what? - Shadows, five to six times. 495 00:30:22,353 --> 00:30:27,023 He's told me one time that he actually sees a man standing in the doorway here. 496 00:30:27,024 --> 00:30:28,031 Okay. 497 00:30:28,032 --> 00:30:31,754 You know what? Tell Amy about the apparition that you saw. 498 00:30:31,755 --> 00:30:33,596 Amanda: I was in the laundry room, 499 00:30:33,597 --> 00:30:38,028 and I was just grabbing something out of the cabinet, and I turned around, 500 00:30:38,029 --> 00:30:41,737 and there was a man standing right next to me. 501 00:30:41,738 --> 00:30:44,576 I jumped and screamed, and then he disappeared. 502 00:30:44,577 --> 00:30:48,511 - What was he wearing? - A button-down shirt, and... 503 00:30:48,512 --> 00:30:50,921 - He had a five o'clock shadow. - Okay. 504 00:30:50,922 --> 00:30:52,637 And dark hair. 505 00:30:52,638 --> 00:30:57,524 I briefly encountered another male back in that area. 506 00:30:57,525 --> 00:30:59,159 Oh, my God. 507 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,996 And I did do a sketch of the man. 508 00:31:02,997 --> 00:31:05,867 [ Echoing ] He's in his early 70s... 509 00:31:05,868 --> 00:31:08,808 He does have jowls. 510 00:31:09,077 --> 00:31:13,217 And his eyes are very almond-shaped. 511 00:31:16,311 --> 00:31:20,165 Di Schiavi: Well, you tell me. You would know better. 512 00:31:20,166 --> 00:31:22,566 Oh, my God. 513 00:31:25,266 --> 00:31:28,626 It looks a lot like him. 514 00:31:29,156 --> 00:31:31,012 I'll never forget him. 515 00:31:31,013 --> 00:31:34,553 He was looking right at me. 516 00:31:35,121 --> 00:31:38,922 He was just confused, so he just gets frustrated. 517 00:31:38,923 --> 00:31:41,213 - Do you ever hear banging or anything? - All the time. 518 00:31:41,214 --> 00:31:44,454 - All the time. - Okay. 519 00:31:45,124 --> 00:31:47,608 So, what else did you see? 520 00:31:47,609 --> 00:31:50,780 In my opening, what I saw was actually... 521 00:31:50,781 --> 00:31:54,921 This house surrounded by thick trees. 522 00:31:55,154 --> 00:31:58,785 I was shocked, because, obviously, there's no trees. It's all houses. 523 00:31:58,786 --> 00:32:01,801 And then when I went in the backyard, I heard an old lady. 524 00:32:01,802 --> 00:32:05,896 She was agitated that the trees had been removed. 525 00:32:05,897 --> 00:32:10,397 Well, it makes sense you said that, because this was owned by a guy named Isaac Swain. 526 00:32:10,398 --> 00:32:13,665 Back in the 1800s, he purchased the property here. 527 00:32:13,666 --> 00:32:16,606 This was all woods. 528 00:32:17,972 --> 00:32:23,076 He came here, he bought the property, and he opened up a mill. 529 00:32:23,077 --> 00:32:27,648 He made a lot of money, but he also had a lot of tragedy with his family. 530 00:32:27,649 --> 00:32:29,182 Oh. 531 00:32:29,183 --> 00:32:31,043 Wow. 532 00:32:31,427 --> 00:32:34,288 I saw this little girl. 533 00:32:34,289 --> 00:32:37,556 - She's the most important person here. - Mm-hmm. 534 00:32:37,557 --> 00:32:41,306 She kind of controls or runs most of the house. 535 00:32:41,307 --> 00:32:45,832 She's between 10 and 12, and she's been here for a very long time... 536 00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:48,064 At least over 100 years. 537 00:32:48,065 --> 00:32:49,952 But she's in a lot pain. 538 00:32:49,953 --> 00:32:53,940 Because she was in some kind of weird accident. 539 00:32:53,941 --> 00:32:58,201 And, mentally, she's not who she was. 540 00:32:58,493 --> 00:33:01,644 She wasn't allowed to play. She wasn't allowed to do things. 541 00:33:01,645 --> 00:33:04,828 She wasn't really allowed to interact with people. 542 00:33:04,829 --> 00:33:07,824 Well, I didn't have to think much about this one. 543 00:33:07,825 --> 00:33:10,719 Isaac Swain had a daughter, Louisa. 544 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,386 Between the ages of 10 and 14, she actually hit her head... 545 00:33:15,387 --> 00:33:17,159 - And soon after that... - Oh, man. 546 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,034 - She became mentally incapacitated. - Oh. 547 00:33:21,035 --> 00:33:25,952 She basically couldn't care for herself. She had to have care all the time. 548 00:33:25,953 --> 00:33:30,587 The thing is, she had two siblings, both of which passed away. 549 00:33:30,588 --> 00:33:32,312 Whoa. What? 550 00:33:32,313 --> 00:33:35,481 One was Martha. She died at the age of 15. 551 00:33:35,482 --> 00:33:39,152 And she had a younger brother, William, who died at 3 in 1849. 552 00:33:39,153 --> 00:33:40,588 Wow. 553 00:33:40,589 --> 00:33:43,729 Things got worse for her, because her mom... 554 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:47,473 This is Vallonia... she got sick, very sick. 555 00:33:47,474 --> 00:33:51,431 Her husband took her on a 3-year journey all around the northeast, 556 00:33:51,432 --> 00:33:56,603 the East Coast, looking for help, searching for a cure for her. 557 00:33:56,604 --> 00:34:01,610 This kid was left alone at the house with nurses. 558 00:34:01,611 --> 00:34:03,546 You know, she lived the rest of her life... 559 00:34:03,547 --> 00:34:05,553 As an invalid. 560 00:34:05,554 --> 00:34:10,650 What I got was that she does affect everyone in the house to some extent. 561 00:34:10,651 --> 00:34:13,646 She can make people overeat... 562 00:34:13,647 --> 00:34:18,627 She can drain energy, make people feel agitated. 563 00:34:18,666 --> 00:34:20,510 - Oh, my God. - She affects sleep... 564 00:34:20,511 --> 00:34:25,198 Can make people have terrible dreams, or sleepwalk, which is big. 565 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,168 She climbs into bed with them, 566 00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:30,504 and she can jump inside that person and control them. 567 00:34:30,505 --> 00:34:33,496 - Oh, my God. - She affects everyone, but she... 568 00:34:33,497 --> 00:34:39,397 Has her sights set on one person in this house in particular. 569 00:34:39,616 --> 00:34:43,528 She stays by this person all the time. 570 00:34:43,529 --> 00:34:45,389 Wow. 571 00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:48,727 Yeah, it's definitely me. 572 00:34:48,728 --> 00:34:52,378 One time, I got up to go to the bathroom... 573 00:34:52,379 --> 00:34:55,124 And the next thing I knew, 574 00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:58,679 I was spinning a knife on the counter. 575 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,635 I didn't know I was doing it. It was, like, not me. 576 00:35:01,636 --> 00:35:07,001 All I could think was, I should just get it over with. 577 00:35:07,002 --> 00:35:12,522 I'm gonna die anyway. I should just get it over with. 578 00:35:13,271 --> 00:35:15,415 - And you mentioned agitated? - Mm-hmm. 579 00:35:15,416 --> 00:35:17,409 Well, Mike's having issues. 580 00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:20,694 Yeah. I get mad at the littlest things. 581 00:35:20,695 --> 00:35:26,460 I've been mad at her for no reason, and then I'll go outside, and my rage is gone. 582 00:35:26,461 --> 00:35:30,078 She's trying to control you both. 583 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,479 Oh, my God. 584 00:35:32,533 --> 00:35:35,953 Now, she's been scratched. 585 00:35:38,115 --> 00:35:39,975 Wow. 586 00:35:41,483 --> 00:35:45,011 That's her neck. That's one of the scratch marks. 587 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:47,914 And she's had them on her stomach, on the side there. 588 00:35:47,915 --> 00:35:50,851 - Okay. - And this is a burn mark, she thinks. 589 00:35:50,852 --> 00:35:52,819 Can that be from the little girl? 590 00:35:52,820 --> 00:35:57,999 Yeah. Well, she's always holding on, touching you constantly. 591 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,541 Is that who was crawling in the bed with him? 592 00:36:00,542 --> 00:36:03,656 Oh, she likes to do that. 593 00:36:03,657 --> 00:36:09,503 So, I did a sketch of this little girl and the person that she's focused on. 594 00:36:09,504 --> 00:36:11,424 Okay. 595 00:36:17,748 --> 00:36:20,268 Jesus [Bleep]. 596 00:36:25,401 --> 00:36:27,261 Wow. 597 00:36:27,733 --> 00:36:30,133 Oh, my God. 598 00:36:30,276 --> 00:36:33,576 So, she's always by me? 599 00:36:35,104 --> 00:36:37,384 Holy crap. 600 00:36:54,946 --> 00:37:00,418 I did a sketch of this little girl and the person that she's focused on. 601 00:37:00,419 --> 00:37:02,339 Okay. 602 00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,347 Jesus [Bleep]. 603 00:37:16,628 --> 00:37:18,488 Wow. 604 00:37:18,907 --> 00:37:21,307 Oh, my God. 605 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,820 So, she's always by me? 606 00:37:26,308 --> 00:37:28,588 Holy crap. 607 00:37:41,562 --> 00:37:44,452 She's extremely powerful. 608 00:37:44,453 --> 00:37:47,794 At one point, she charged me and took... 609 00:37:47,795 --> 00:37:51,995 All of my energy, like, in a second. 610 00:37:52,552 --> 00:37:58,452 Then I saw a very disturbing scene in the upstairs bedroom with the two beds. 611 00:37:58,701 --> 00:38:02,421 You could feel this jealousy... 612 00:38:02,628 --> 00:38:06,337 That she had for the people in that room. 613 00:38:06,338 --> 00:38:11,138 And her intention was to murder those people. 614 00:38:12,675 --> 00:38:17,175 And those thoughts were being put into... 615 00:38:17,606 --> 00:38:19,274 The person's mind. 616 00:38:19,275 --> 00:38:21,391 What person are you talking about? 617 00:38:21,392 --> 00:38:24,392 Well, basically, you. 618 00:38:25,801 --> 00:38:30,241 You would be her vessel to do the deed. 619 00:38:30,278 --> 00:38:36,178 She wants to get to the point where she can control you 100% so that you'll do this. 620 00:38:36,194 --> 00:38:37,823 You okay? 621 00:38:37,824 --> 00:38:39,624 No. 622 00:38:39,899 --> 00:38:42,239 Not really. 623 00:38:42,843 --> 00:38:48,123 Well, that room upstairs is where Mike's kids stay. 624 00:38:56,966 --> 00:38:59,306 [ Sniffles ] 625 00:38:59,819 --> 00:39:03,974 I thought something was attached to me. I did. 626 00:39:03,975 --> 00:39:09,256 Mike: We've had some conversations where she's thought that my son hated her. 627 00:39:09,257 --> 00:39:11,892 And she seemed a little jealous... 628 00:39:11,893 --> 00:39:14,443 - Hmm... - Of the kids being here. 629 00:39:14,444 --> 00:39:16,071 Makes a lot of sense. 630 00:39:16,072 --> 00:39:18,638 Now, do you remember feeling this jealousy? 631 00:39:18,639 --> 00:39:22,456 Oh, yeah. When they're here, all his time goes to them. 632 00:39:22,457 --> 00:39:25,711 Mike: When they're here, I split my time as best I can between all three of them. 633 00:39:25,712 --> 00:39:27,854 - Mm-hmm. - But she never sees it that way. 634 00:39:27,855 --> 00:39:32,895 - Now, is that the girl doing it to her? - Yes. 635 00:39:34,407 --> 00:39:39,056 Obviously, this is a lot to absorb in one night. 636 00:39:39,057 --> 00:39:42,140 The big question... is it safe for you guys to live here? 637 00:39:42,141 --> 00:39:44,445 Is it safe for the kids to come here? 638 00:39:44,446 --> 00:39:46,447 And will you be able to get better? 639 00:39:46,448 --> 00:39:51,907 I can't answer that, but I'll turn it over to Amy, my partner, and see if she can. 640 00:39:51,908 --> 00:39:57,808 There's obviously some things that need to be done to protect everybody involved. 641 00:39:58,127 --> 00:40:04,027 Some of these things initially might sound a little bit unusual and extreme. 642 00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:06,820 Okay. 643 00:40:06,915 --> 00:40:12,154 One of the things that I would suggest at this point is to go through your bedroom 644 00:40:12,155 --> 00:40:16,355 and make it like a child-proof room. 645 00:40:16,987 --> 00:40:22,887 And Mike needs to sleep right outside your room, and this is just to protect you. 646 00:40:23,467 --> 00:40:28,656 So, why is it so important that he not sleep in there with me? 647 00:40:28,657 --> 00:40:33,962 Well, I don't want anybody in this situation to be harmed. 648 00:40:33,963 --> 00:40:38,403 And at this point, she could harm you... 649 00:40:39,395 --> 00:40:43,235 Or she could harm somebody else. 650 00:40:45,076 --> 00:40:50,976 The next thing that needs to be done is that there has to be an exorcism. 651 00:40:53,432 --> 00:40:54,196 Really? 652 00:40:54,197 --> 00:40:56,484 That's the only way you're gonna get rid of her. 653 00:40:56,485 --> 00:40:58,705 Oh, geez. 654 00:41:00,856 --> 00:41:04,114 - That was our nightmare scenario. - Mike: Mm-hmm. 655 00:41:04,115 --> 00:41:07,799 Now, why an exorcism instead of trying to move somebody on? 656 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,764 She's just beyond repair. 657 00:41:09,765 --> 00:41:12,672 She's done many, many, many bad things. 658 00:41:12,673 --> 00:41:14,085 She needs to be straightened out. 659 00:41:14,086 --> 00:41:19,666 Right. I would just go to the church and ask for help. 660 00:41:23,507 --> 00:41:28,538 Look me in the eye and tell me you're gonna do this. 661 00:41:28,539 --> 00:41:30,737 I'm gonna do it. 662 00:41:30,738 --> 00:41:34,583 My own life has already been taken from me. 663 00:41:34,584 --> 00:41:39,313 And I don't want any more harm to come to me or anyone else. 664 00:41:39,314 --> 00:41:41,133 Mm-hmm. 665 00:41:41,134 --> 00:41:44,014 Thank you so much. 666 00:41:46,501 --> 00:41:48,938 Allan: I really hope Amanda and Mike follow my advice 667 00:41:48,939 --> 00:41:53,041 and rid their home of the little girl that's tormenting them. 668 00:41:53,042 --> 00:41:54,788 Once she's gone, 669 00:41:54,789 --> 00:41:57,980 I believe all the negativity surrounding this family should vanish. 670 00:41:57,981 --> 00:42:00,657 And they can live a peaceful life. 671 00:42:00,658 --> 00:42:06,558 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. 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