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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:06,181 --> 00:00:08,545 Narrator: Tonight on "Dead Files Revisited"... 3 00:00:08,546 --> 00:00:10,755 He wants to kill me. 4 00:00:10,756 --> 00:00:14,999 Narrator: A second look at some of Amy and Steve's most terrifying cases. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,031 If I heard that, I'd reach for my gun. 6 00:00:17,032 --> 00:00:18,269 New information. 7 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:19,614 It was just disturbing. 8 00:00:19,615 --> 00:00:21,377 Narrator: Startling revelations. 9 00:00:21,378 --> 00:00:23,987 I felt like Amy could look into my soul. 10 00:00:23,988 --> 00:00:25,711 Narrator: First... [ groaning ] 11 00:00:25,712 --> 00:00:28,070 Narrator: A return to Parkersburg, West Virginia... 12 00:00:28,071 --> 00:00:29,260 I want it to be over... 13 00:00:29,261 --> 00:00:31,306 Where a demonic Creature tortures a family. 14 00:00:31,307 --> 00:00:33,575 We can't continue to live in fear. 15 00:00:33,576 --> 00:00:36,686 And Amy reveals the horrifying truth. 16 00:00:36,687 --> 00:00:40,287 Allan: He wants to hurt you. 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,098 Narrator: Then we travel back to Wichita, Kansas... 18 00:00:43,099 --> 00:00:45,470 It made my heart stop. 19 00:00:45,471 --> 00:00:47,918 Where evil lurks around every corner. 20 00:00:47,919 --> 00:00:49,986 He hates them, living or dead. 21 00:00:49,987 --> 00:00:52,523 Narrator: And the client faces a grim reality. 22 00:00:52,524 --> 00:00:54,187 Is that me? 23 00:00:54,188 --> 00:00:55,957 Narrator: Did they follow Amy's advice... 24 00:00:55,958 --> 00:00:57,461 You guys are gonna do this stuff? 25 00:00:57,462 --> 00:00:59,530 Or continue to live in fear? 26 00:00:59,531 --> 00:01:02,591 I have felt hopeless. 27 00:01:03,535 --> 00:01:05,978 They're being watched. 28 00:01:05,979 --> 00:01:08,908 My name is Amy Allan. 29 00:01:08,909 --> 00:01:11,110 This thing likes death. 30 00:01:11,111 --> 00:01:12,845 I see dead people. 31 00:01:12,846 --> 00:01:14,304 This thing's, like, a monster. 32 00:01:14,305 --> 00:01:16,516 I speak to dead people. 33 00:01:16,517 --> 00:01:18,050 And he's pissed off now. 34 00:01:18,051 --> 00:01:19,546 And they speak to me. 35 00:01:19,547 --> 00:01:21,262 His head was cracked. 36 00:01:21,263 --> 00:01:24,857 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 37 00:01:24,858 --> 00:01:26,245 This guy was murdered. 38 00:01:26,246 --> 00:01:27,780 I rely on my partner. 39 00:01:27,781 --> 00:01:31,039 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 40 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,623 I cannot help you unless I know the whole story. 41 00:01:33,624 --> 00:01:36,960 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 42 00:01:36,961 --> 00:01:38,395 You saw her? 43 00:01:38,396 --> 00:01:39,629 It's my job to reveal them. 44 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:40,897 Why would you stay here? 45 00:01:40,898 --> 00:01:43,019 But Steve and I never speak... 46 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:45,003 We never communicate during an investigation. 47 00:01:45,004 --> 00:01:46,371 Until the very end. 48 00:01:46,372 --> 00:01:48,206 [ Echoing ] Stop it. 49 00:01:48,207 --> 00:01:50,162 We uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 50 00:01:50,163 --> 00:01:52,723 Woman: I want to know the truth. I want to know what's happening. 51 00:01:52,724 --> 00:01:53,978 Or time to get out. 52 00:01:53,979 --> 00:01:59,439 [ Crying ] I told you there were ghosts in this house. 53 00:02:14,934 --> 00:02:17,436 Di Schiavi: It takes a lot to rattle my cage, 54 00:02:17,437 --> 00:02:21,606 but our investigation in Parkersburg, West Virginia, still haunts me. 55 00:02:21,607 --> 00:02:24,943 Our client's family had been terrorized by paranormal activity for years, 56 00:02:24,944 --> 00:02:27,779 especially her 17-year-old daughter, Torie. 57 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:29,614 I'll never forget the look of fear in her eyes 58 00:02:29,615 --> 00:02:34,319 when Amy revealed what was really going on in their house. 59 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,155 Di Schiavi: Well, Tisha, tell me why you called Amy and I in. 60 00:02:37,156 --> 00:02:39,091 We are having some activity in the house. 61 00:02:39,092 --> 00:02:41,593 Some of us have been physically touched. 62 00:02:41,594 --> 00:02:43,595 The kids are scared. 63 00:02:43,596 --> 00:02:47,499 Well, just last night, our oldest was hysterical, 64 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,668 and I spent a lot of the night consoling her. 65 00:02:50,669 --> 00:02:53,171 Tisha: I was at a place, as a Mom, 66 00:02:53,172 --> 00:02:56,878 where I had felt hopeless about protecting my children. 67 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,060 When there's something in your house that you can't see 68 00:02:59,061 --> 00:03:03,681 and you don't even know what it is, you can't really keep your kids safe from that. 69 00:03:03,682 --> 00:03:06,485 You think that whatever's here can be harmful to you guys? 70 00:03:06,486 --> 00:03:10,566 We can't continue to live in fear. 71 00:03:26,066 --> 00:03:28,826 What's going on? 72 00:03:31,988 --> 00:03:34,494 Well, there was, like, someone who was drowned. 73 00:03:34,495 --> 00:03:38,575 There's a male who's following us. 74 00:03:39,112 --> 00:03:43,552 Somehow, these two incidents are related. 75 00:03:44,802 --> 00:03:47,823 I already sensed that the house had a dark past, 76 00:03:47,824 --> 00:03:50,326 but I didn't even have to walk in the front door 77 00:03:50,327 --> 00:03:53,662 to know that the man protecting it was evil. 78 00:03:53,663 --> 00:03:58,867 He just keeps smiling, and the smile is, like, really maniacal. 79 00:03:58,868 --> 00:04:03,848 He wants to kill me, and he's waiting for me. 80 00:04:07,612 --> 00:04:08,978 Okay, what's going on up here? 81 00:04:08,979 --> 00:04:12,281 We're lying in bed at night, and we hear sounds. 82 00:04:12,282 --> 00:04:14,934 They're usually coming from this floor. 83 00:04:14,935 --> 00:04:17,383 And it sounds like... 84 00:04:17,384 --> 00:04:19,724 [ Scraping ] 85 00:04:19,956 --> 00:04:21,859 - Just like that. - That noisy? 86 00:04:21,860 --> 00:04:22,875 All night long. 87 00:04:22,876 --> 00:04:25,193 If I heard that, I'd reach for my gun and come running up. 88 00:04:25,194 --> 00:04:26,544 Yeah. 89 00:04:26,545 --> 00:04:29,267 Tisha: Well, you can only imagine the toll that it took on us. 90 00:04:29,268 --> 00:04:31,687 I was tired, the kids were having trouble getting up 91 00:04:31,688 --> 00:04:33,834 and going to school because of late nights. 92 00:04:33,835 --> 00:04:39,535 So, it took a huge toll on our bodies and on our souls. 93 00:04:39,752 --> 00:04:44,012 There's, like, lots of [Bleep] people. 94 00:04:44,699 --> 00:04:48,179 Upstairs is just full of... 95 00:04:49,108 --> 00:04:52,228 Crying... and people... 96 00:04:54,661 --> 00:04:58,021 That really don't belong. 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,799 I couldn't believe how many dead people were trapped in that attic. 98 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,803 But out of all of them, one stood out from the rest. 99 00:05:05,804 --> 00:05:09,407 There's a dead little girl here. 100 00:05:09,408 --> 00:05:13,628 She stumbles into things all the time. 101 00:05:13,629 --> 00:05:15,753 Where does this happen... that she bumps into things? 102 00:05:15,754 --> 00:05:19,234 All over the [Bleep] house. 103 00:05:24,627 --> 00:05:27,370 Jason, Tisha says you're a skeptic. Is that accurate? 104 00:05:27,371 --> 00:05:31,274 I'm always trying to find the logical, you know, explanations. 105 00:05:31,275 --> 00:05:33,842 But as time goes on and things happen, 106 00:05:33,843 --> 00:05:37,485 you know, you start to run out of explanations. 107 00:05:37,486 --> 00:05:40,650 Di Schiavi: Usually, the man of the house will play the skeptical card with me. 108 00:05:40,651 --> 00:05:42,151 Jason was no different. 109 00:05:42,152 --> 00:05:43,740 But once I pressed him, 110 00:05:43,741 --> 00:05:46,855 it wasn't long before he admitted that he was also a believer. 111 00:05:46,856 --> 00:05:50,025 Did any experience that you had here change your mind? 112 00:05:50,026 --> 00:05:51,503 Yes. 113 00:05:51,504 --> 00:05:54,251 I was shaving in the bathroom, 114 00:05:54,252 --> 00:05:58,834 and my daughter usually comes up, you know, to give me a hug, and I felt that. 115 00:05:58,835 --> 00:06:02,738 And I looked around and there was no one there. 116 00:06:02,739 --> 00:06:05,238 Is that the defining moment that changed your attitude? 117 00:06:05,239 --> 00:06:08,119 - Oh, yes. - Okay. 118 00:06:11,114 --> 00:06:14,565 There's a teenage boy here. 119 00:06:14,566 --> 00:06:19,066 And he's laughing, and he's a prankster. 120 00:06:20,706 --> 00:06:24,906 Does he do stuff to the living here? 121 00:06:24,988 --> 00:06:26,848 Yes. 122 00:06:27,237 --> 00:06:30,597 He watches them, always... 123 00:06:31,010 --> 00:06:33,373 Breathes on them... 124 00:06:33,374 --> 00:06:39,274 Likes to walk around and, like, walking up right behind them. 125 00:06:39,511 --> 00:06:42,044 At first, I just assumed that boy was nothing more 126 00:06:42,045 --> 00:06:44,600 than an entity who liked causing trouble. 127 00:06:44,601 --> 00:06:47,049 But something about him was deceiving. 128 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:50,893 And then I saw there was a sinister side to his pranks. 129 00:06:50,894 --> 00:06:53,389 He likes to surprise them. 130 00:06:53,390 --> 00:06:56,150 Sometimes, like... 131 00:06:56,225 --> 00:07:00,125 Get in there and asphyxiate them. 132 00:07:07,672 --> 00:07:10,256 Di Schiavi: It was one thing to hear Tisha and Jason's stories. 133 00:07:10,257 --> 00:07:11,579 But as a father, 134 00:07:11,580 --> 00:07:17,480 it was tough seeing how those experiences were torturing their daughter. 135 00:07:23,224 --> 00:07:24,576 So, Torie, I was talking to Mom, 136 00:07:24,577 --> 00:07:26,873 and she told me you had a pretty bad night last night. 137 00:07:26,874 --> 00:07:31,416 I was laying in bed, and I kept hearing furniture moving upstairs. 138 00:07:31,417 --> 00:07:34,863 So, I called Mom and she tried to calm me down, 139 00:07:34,864 --> 00:07:37,790 so I slept in the same room as my grandpa. 140 00:07:37,791 --> 00:07:40,312 Torie: I was so scared to sleep in my room 141 00:07:40,313 --> 00:07:43,054 that I would crawl in bed with one of my family members. 142 00:07:43,055 --> 00:07:46,523 And being 17, that's really embarrassing for me to, 143 00:07:46,524 --> 00:07:49,353 tell other people or my friends about that, because... 144 00:07:49,354 --> 00:07:52,823 I don't want people to make fun of me about it. 145 00:07:52,824 --> 00:07:56,220 Your Mother mentioned that she felt like she was always being watched. 146 00:07:56,221 --> 00:07:58,321 - Oh, yeah. - Where do you feel that? 147 00:07:58,322 --> 00:08:01,502 Definitely the bathroom on the second floor. 148 00:08:01,503 --> 00:08:04,870 Just, when I take a shower, I always got to open the curtain, 149 00:08:04,871 --> 00:08:07,069 look out, because I feel like someone's standing there. 150 00:08:07,070 --> 00:08:10,250 That's when it starts. 151 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,269 Allan: The boy from upstairs... the prankster... 152 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:17,378 He watches everything all the time. 153 00:08:17,379 --> 00:08:20,523 No privacy here. No. None. None. 154 00:08:20,524 --> 00:08:25,141 And he said, "I don't care if they feel violated". 155 00:08:25,142 --> 00:08:27,962 It's really mean. 156 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,493 You know, Torie, I have a daughter myself. She's a little bit older than you. 157 00:08:31,494 --> 00:08:35,452 Couldn't imagine her going through this every night. 158 00:08:35,453 --> 00:08:38,038 It's got to be tough on you. 159 00:08:38,039 --> 00:08:41,879 Okay. Wait a minute. [ Sniffles ] 160 00:08:44,648 --> 00:08:48,428 This is really scary. [ Crying ] 161 00:08:51,046 --> 00:08:54,716 And I worry about the kids all the time. 162 00:08:54,717 --> 00:08:57,051 I'm worried about my Mom, too. 163 00:08:57,052 --> 00:09:00,232 I want it to be over. 164 00:09:01,256 --> 00:09:02,470 Yes. 165 00:09:02,471 --> 00:09:04,913 - Narrator: Next... - Oh [Bleep] it hurts. 166 00:09:04,914 --> 00:09:06,864 Narrator: Amy is under attack. 167 00:09:06,865 --> 00:09:09,233 I got to get him out. I got to... 168 00:09:09,234 --> 00:09:11,699 Narrator: And in our second investigation... 169 00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:14,923 If you run, they're gonna follow you. 170 00:09:14,924 --> 00:09:16,774 Narrator: Lives are changed forever. 171 00:09:16,775 --> 00:09:21,995 For us, the final chapter hasn't been written yet. 172 00:09:34,017 --> 00:09:37,002 Di Schiavi: After doing some research on Tisha and Jason's house, 173 00:09:37,003 --> 00:09:41,173 I found out two people were killed on the property about 100 years ago. 174 00:09:41,174 --> 00:09:43,843 And the cause of their death was so bizarre, 175 00:09:43,844 --> 00:09:49,124 I tracked down a local author to explain it to me. 176 00:09:54,137 --> 00:09:57,424 Little: In 1885, the city of Parkersburg built 177 00:09:57,425 --> 00:10:00,609 two large water tanks on Quincy Hill. 178 00:10:00,610 --> 00:10:05,123 And then on march 19, 1909, the South tank ruptured, 179 00:10:05,124 --> 00:10:07,943 and the force of the water caused the North tank to rupture. 180 00:10:07,944 --> 00:10:12,464 2 million gallons of water just instantly flooded Parkersburg. 181 00:10:12,465 --> 00:10:16,699 And there were a lot of homes in the surrounding area that were 182 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:20,494 ripped off their foundations and thrown into the streets below. 183 00:10:20,495 --> 00:10:22,958 So, now, a young couple gets killed. 184 00:10:22,959 --> 00:10:27,771 Yes. Their house was swept down into Avery Street. 185 00:10:27,772 --> 00:10:29,848 Were their bodies ever found? 186 00:10:29,849 --> 00:10:34,445 A few hours later, their bodies were found. 187 00:10:34,446 --> 00:10:37,873 Their hands and arms were over their mouths, 188 00:10:37,874 --> 00:10:41,792 as if they were trying to get another breath of air. 189 00:10:41,793 --> 00:10:43,653 Wow. 190 00:10:47,629 --> 00:10:51,349 Allan: Like, seeing the water again. 191 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:54,111 Shaking, and I'm falling, and I'm falling. 192 00:10:54,112 --> 00:10:56,374 Like oh [Bleep]! 193 00:10:56,375 --> 00:10:58,710 Down, down. 194 00:10:58,711 --> 00:11:02,019 Covered up, covered up. Shh! 195 00:11:02,020 --> 00:11:05,684 All I could see around me was death and destruction, and then... 196 00:11:05,685 --> 00:11:08,099 Oh [Bleep] it hurts. Aw... 197 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:10,989 - Are you okay? - Oh... 198 00:11:10,990 --> 00:11:15,827 An entity forced his way into my body to make me experience his suffering. 199 00:11:15,828 --> 00:11:21,352 The pain was so unbearable, it took every ounce of my strength to break free. 200 00:11:21,353 --> 00:11:23,393 [Bleep] 201 00:11:24,814 --> 00:11:27,898 I got to get him out. I got... 202 00:11:27,899 --> 00:11:31,559 I got to get him out of me. 203 00:11:32,535 --> 00:11:37,849 He just wants everybody to know that he was [Bleep] killed. 204 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:41,520 Di Schiavi: The water towers were built by a prominent Parkersburg family. 205 00:11:41,521 --> 00:11:44,312 At the center of that family was General John Jay Jackson... 206 00:11:44,313 --> 00:11:47,358 A well-respected man with an impeccable military record. 207 00:11:47,359 --> 00:11:51,530 On paper, that sounds nice, but after talking to a local historian, 208 00:11:51,531 --> 00:11:57,351 I learned that the General wasn't always such a great guy. 209 00:11:58,337 --> 00:12:02,007 I came across the name of a General John Jay Jackson. 210 00:12:02,008 --> 00:12:06,745 Yes. He was a Founding Father of the city of Parkersburg. 211 00:12:06,746 --> 00:12:08,868 So, Bob, how did he make a living? 212 00:12:08,869 --> 00:12:13,198 In the 1840s, he purchased a Parkersburg newspaper. 213 00:12:13,199 --> 00:12:18,456 And then soon thereafter, he became involved in the oil industry. 214 00:12:18,457 --> 00:12:20,258 What kind of a businessman was he? 215 00:12:20,259 --> 00:12:25,054 Anytime you're buying land and speculating, there's... 216 00:12:25,055 --> 00:12:26,733 Often controversy. 217 00:12:26,734 --> 00:12:30,124 And this certainly may have been the case involving General Jackson. 218 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:33,104 Okay. Now, what about family? 219 00:12:33,105 --> 00:12:36,765 Legend has it that his son... 220 00:12:36,843 --> 00:12:41,308 John Jay Junior, that had fallen in love with a girl in Parkersburg, 221 00:12:41,309 --> 00:12:44,712 named Jane, whom he planned to marry himself. 222 00:12:44,713 --> 00:12:48,954 However, this happened to be the same Jane that his father married. 223 00:12:48,955 --> 00:12:51,790 So, he married the Jane that the Son was looking to hook up with? 224 00:12:51,791 --> 00:12:54,371 - Yes. - Okay. 225 00:12:57,046 --> 00:13:02,618 Allan: So, now I'm seeing this guy, and he's just wearing a long black duster. 226 00:13:02,619 --> 00:13:05,288 I was nervous being near that man again. 227 00:13:05,289 --> 00:13:09,679 I saw him when I first arrived at the house, and he threatened to kill me. 228 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:12,066 He was here from... 229 00:13:12,067 --> 00:13:14,287 Way back. 230 00:13:14,714 --> 00:13:17,474 Eighteen sixty's. 231 00:13:17,573 --> 00:13:21,037 And he was a prominent person. 232 00:13:21,038 --> 00:13:22,790 He... 233 00:13:22,791 --> 00:13:24,170 Was... 234 00:13:24,171 --> 00:13:28,127 Instrumental in this town's growth. 235 00:13:28,128 --> 00:13:29,953 All of a sudden, his body changed 236 00:13:29,954 --> 00:13:33,683 and he revealed himself to me as a horrific Creature. 237 00:13:33,684 --> 00:13:39,219 An entity like this can be extremely dangerous to both the living and the dead. 238 00:13:39,220 --> 00:13:44,440 So I knew I needed to sketch him for our clients. 239 00:13:52,613 --> 00:13:54,947 He is very tall... 240 00:13:54,948 --> 00:13:56,782 And he is... 241 00:13:56,783 --> 00:14:01,043 Like a skeleton with a layer of skin. 242 00:14:01,351 --> 00:14:05,911 He's wearing a very thick leather jacket. 243 00:14:09,118 --> 00:14:12,178 Is this who you saw? 244 00:14:13,218 --> 00:14:15,078 Yes. 245 00:14:15,286 --> 00:14:16,286 Narrator: Next... 246 00:14:16,287 --> 00:14:18,484 He wants to do harm. 247 00:14:18,485 --> 00:14:20,189 Oh, God. 248 00:14:20,190 --> 00:14:22,841 Narrator: Find out what happened after the investigation. 249 00:14:22,842 --> 00:14:24,449 My Mom was screaming. 250 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:30,350 In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, get out! 251 00:14:54,362 --> 00:14:58,230 Di Schiavi: Amy, this is Tisha and Jason. They're engaged to be married. 252 00:14:58,231 --> 00:15:00,460 They've been going through some terrifying things. 253 00:15:00,461 --> 00:15:04,130 Torie, especially. Torie's their oldest. She's 17. 254 00:15:04,131 --> 00:15:07,301 Tisha: I was so excited to see Amy sitting at our kitchen table. 255 00:15:07,302 --> 00:15:10,804 I felt like, finally, finally, we're going to have answers. 256 00:15:10,805 --> 00:15:13,139 And we're gonna have a way to protect our kids. 257 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:16,510 But I had one big concern... that Amy was going to say, 258 00:15:16,511 --> 00:15:20,177 "you need to move out of your house". 259 00:15:20,178 --> 00:15:23,607 Allan: When I first came onto the property... 260 00:15:23,608 --> 00:15:27,225 I saw that somebody had drowned. 261 00:15:27,226 --> 00:15:31,238 I already knew that the two water tanks ruptured and flooded the town in 1909. 262 00:15:31,239 --> 00:15:33,570 Three people died from it. 263 00:15:33,571 --> 00:15:38,935 And they found them with their mouths covered, as if to stop water from going in. 264 00:15:38,936 --> 00:15:42,988 But I never expected that Amy would have seen that tragedy in such detail. 265 00:15:42,989 --> 00:15:46,768 And I felt, like, this blow, then I heard... 266 00:15:46,769 --> 00:15:50,249 "Down, cover up, cover up". 267 00:15:50,899 --> 00:15:52,394 Di Schiavi: Anything else? 268 00:15:52,395 --> 00:15:56,560 Okay. So, there's two people on the second floor. 269 00:15:56,561 --> 00:15:58,678 One is a younger girl. 270 00:15:58,679 --> 00:16:02,971 She tends to accidentally bang into things. 271 00:16:02,972 --> 00:16:06,419 The other one is a younger male. 272 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:09,189 He also likes the bathroom a lot. 273 00:16:09,190 --> 00:16:13,510 - He likes to be in there. - Oh, God. 274 00:16:13,809 --> 00:16:17,950 Torie: When Amy told me that she discovered the little boy in the bathroom... 275 00:16:17,951 --> 00:16:21,673 I got really emotional, because I was worried. 276 00:16:21,674 --> 00:16:24,525 For myself and my siblings. 277 00:16:24,526 --> 00:16:26,439 If one of them had to go through this, 278 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,158 I can only imagine how hard it would be for them. 279 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:33,499 [ Sniffles ] 280 00:16:34,119 --> 00:16:39,099 He watches all the time. He wants to hurt you. 281 00:16:39,152 --> 00:16:41,312 Oh, God. 282 00:16:42,398 --> 00:16:45,024 Tisha: Seeing Torie break down like that was very difficult. 283 00:16:45,025 --> 00:16:48,314 I didn't know what to say to her, and I didn't know what to do for her. 284 00:16:48,315 --> 00:16:52,752 And at that moment, I felt like I had failed. 285 00:16:52,753 --> 00:16:55,426 I failed my child. 286 00:16:55,427 --> 00:16:57,459 What else did you see? 287 00:16:57,460 --> 00:16:59,367 Allan: The other person... 288 00:16:59,368 --> 00:17:01,703 He is the man in the black coat. 289 00:17:01,704 --> 00:17:05,124 And he wanted to kill me. 290 00:17:05,775 --> 00:17:09,314 He's from the 1860s or '70s... 291 00:17:09,315 --> 00:17:14,535 And he was very instrumental in creating this town. 292 00:17:14,693 --> 00:17:17,827 That sounds just like John Jay Jackson. 293 00:17:17,828 --> 00:17:21,255 He owned the property that your house sits on. 294 00:17:21,256 --> 00:17:26,994 He was one of the Founding Fathers, actually, of Parkersburg. 295 00:17:26,995 --> 00:17:28,915 Whoa. 296 00:17:29,017 --> 00:17:31,333 Do you think the apparition you saw is General Jackson? 297 00:17:31,334 --> 00:17:34,034 Yes. Yes, I do. 298 00:17:34,375 --> 00:17:40,140 But he also showed me another side of himself in a really dark, sinister way. 299 00:17:40,141 --> 00:17:45,781 I sketched him that way because it really was disturbing. 300 00:17:45,948 --> 00:17:48,316 Take a look, guys. 301 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:50,155 Ooh. 302 00:17:50,156 --> 00:17:52,976 He has no pupils. 303 00:17:53,054 --> 00:17:57,492 Torie: God. The man's eyes. He didn't even have eyes. 304 00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,662 It was the creepiest face I had ever seen. 305 00:18:00,663 --> 00:18:05,900 It just... when you look at it, you feel a bad presence just even from the picture. 306 00:18:05,901 --> 00:18:09,081 It was just disturbing. 307 00:18:11,306 --> 00:18:12,980 Allan: He's a collector. 308 00:18:12,981 --> 00:18:16,871 With his life, all of the collecting he did then of, like, 309 00:18:16,872 --> 00:18:19,213 maybe property and money and all of this. 310 00:18:19,214 --> 00:18:24,151 The only thing in death that you can really collect are souls. 311 00:18:24,152 --> 00:18:28,648 He and the little boy are one in the same. 312 00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:32,921 He has this part of himself that's this little boy... 313 00:18:32,922 --> 00:18:35,840 That can do all these horrible things. 314 00:18:35,841 --> 00:18:41,061 While his other self is literally roaming the town. 315 00:18:43,196 --> 00:18:46,207 I know this is a lot of information to digest in one night, 316 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:48,188 but the most pressing question... 317 00:18:48,189 --> 00:18:50,238 Is it safe for your family to be here? 318 00:18:50,239 --> 00:18:52,814 I can't answer that, so for that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 319 00:18:52,815 --> 00:18:58,093 You have so much residual energy here, it's ridiculous. 320 00:18:58,094 --> 00:19:01,355 So, the first thing to do is a cleansing. 321 00:19:01,356 --> 00:19:03,155 Yeah. 322 00:19:03,156 --> 00:19:05,036 The other thing is, in each room, 323 00:19:05,037 --> 00:19:09,519 you're gonna take salt and throw it in the four corners of each room. 324 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,800 They're gonna all be attracted to this. 325 00:19:11,801 --> 00:19:16,742 This will cleanse all the residual energy, and you're sealing the property, 326 00:19:16,743 --> 00:19:20,763 so nothing else negative can enter. 327 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,800 Promise me you guys are gonna do what she says. 328 00:19:43,041 --> 00:19:46,748 Tisha: Amy gave us the advice that we needed to do the cleansing of the house. 329 00:19:46,749 --> 00:19:52,649 And I looked at Torie and said, "that's it. It's getting done". 330 00:19:54,973 --> 00:20:00,313 As quickly as we could, we were cleansing the house. 331 00:20:00,428 --> 00:20:03,451 We ask that all negativity leave this space. 332 00:20:03,452 --> 00:20:06,989 You're no longer welcome in this home. 333 00:20:06,990 --> 00:20:12,460 Then we went into the basement, which is a place that I had never gone before. 334 00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:15,730 We ask that all negative energy leave this place today. 335 00:20:15,731 --> 00:20:19,429 You are no longer welcome in our home. 336 00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:23,188 Only love, light, and peace may enter. 337 00:20:23,189 --> 00:20:28,469 And doing the salt... sweeping it out of the house. 338 00:20:28,711 --> 00:20:30,912 Torie: During the cleanse, I was still scared, 339 00:20:30,913 --> 00:20:34,616 and the mood didn't really change at all. 340 00:20:34,617 --> 00:20:37,819 And then we went into the bathroom, 341 00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:42,690 that I am terrified of, and right when we walked in, 342 00:20:42,691 --> 00:20:46,651 I felt something pull on my hair. 343 00:20:46,695 --> 00:20:50,668 Mom, something just pulled on my hair. 344 00:20:50,669 --> 00:20:52,665 Okay. We're done. 345 00:20:52,666 --> 00:20:55,904 In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, get out! 346 00:20:55,905 --> 00:20:58,815 We ask that all negative energy leave our home. 347 00:20:58,816 --> 00:21:02,041 Leave our home! Leave us in peace! 348 00:21:02,042 --> 00:21:03,759 My Mom was screaming. 349 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,128 Get out of our house! This is our home! 350 00:21:08,129 --> 00:21:12,654 She was telling it to get out of here and it didn't belong in our house. 351 00:21:12,655 --> 00:21:15,189 Tisha: I was so angry. 352 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:18,259 Leave us alone. This is our home. 353 00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:19,740 Get out! 354 00:21:19,741 --> 00:21:21,557 I knew he was there with us. 355 00:21:21,558 --> 00:21:24,460 And that just gave me more energy and drive, 356 00:21:24,461 --> 00:21:29,321 to get the house cleansed completely that day. 357 00:21:31,730 --> 00:21:36,804 After the cleanse, this house felt completely different. 358 00:21:36,805 --> 00:21:40,356 Everything felt lighter. The house was warmer. 359 00:21:40,357 --> 00:21:43,025 It was an obvious change. 360 00:21:43,026 --> 00:21:45,361 Torie: Now I can sleep at night. 361 00:21:45,362 --> 00:21:47,697 I can go to the bathroom without anybody, 362 00:21:47,698 --> 00:21:51,709 and I don't have to be scared to be at home alone. 363 00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:54,222 I'm not sure if it's a coincidence... 364 00:21:54,223 --> 00:21:57,840 But Jason and I have planned our wedding four times. 365 00:21:57,841 --> 00:22:00,147 He has canceled it three times. 366 00:22:00,148 --> 00:22:03,012 Since the cleansing, he's in a much better mood, 367 00:22:03,013 --> 00:22:07,633 and we were finally married two weeks ago. 368 00:22:09,259 --> 00:22:11,220 Allan: Tisha and Torie have taken the right steps 369 00:22:11,221 --> 00:22:13,556 to release the dead from their home. 370 00:22:13,557 --> 00:22:17,560 But they should continue the cleansings on a regular basis. 371 00:22:17,561 --> 00:22:20,104 The man in the black coat is still out there, 372 00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:25,085 and there is no telling when he's coming back. 373 00:22:37,714 --> 00:22:39,882 Di Schiavi: A couple in Wichita, Kansas, called us in 374 00:22:39,883 --> 00:22:43,072 to investigate frightening activity on their property. 375 00:22:43,073 --> 00:22:47,744 Turns out the problem wasn't just their building, it was one of them. 376 00:22:47,745 --> 00:22:50,009 And even though Amy and I were able to help, 377 00:22:50,010 --> 00:22:53,156 this is one story that's far from over. 378 00:22:53,157 --> 00:22:55,479 Di Schiavi: Jeff, you sounded concerned on the phone. 379 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,153 Well, I am concerned. 380 00:22:57,154 --> 00:22:59,664 You know, really, I'm fighting to save two businesses here. 381 00:22:59,665 --> 00:23:02,071 - My wife has the salon here in front. - Okay. 382 00:23:02,072 --> 00:23:03,888 And then I have my garage here at the back. 383 00:23:03,889 --> 00:23:05,323 Give me an idea of what's going on. 384 00:23:05,324 --> 00:23:08,898 We've heard things, we've been touched, pushed. 385 00:23:08,899 --> 00:23:11,100 I'd like my kids to be able to take over the business. 386 00:23:11,101 --> 00:23:13,770 But right now, I'm not even comfortable having them in there. 387 00:23:13,771 --> 00:23:15,689 Jeff: This is a big part of our lives. 388 00:23:15,690 --> 00:23:20,109 We've spent so much money and so much effort building this business up, 389 00:23:20,110 --> 00:23:22,946 and we've been very successful here, 390 00:23:22,947 --> 00:23:25,949 so it would be very difficult just to pull up and move. 391 00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:28,920 What about yourself... have you ever seen anything or experienced anything? 392 00:23:28,921 --> 00:23:30,787 I just finished working on some vehicles. 393 00:23:30,788 --> 00:23:32,686 - Okay. - And I looked up and saw it. 394 00:23:32,687 --> 00:23:35,381 Looked like an older gentleman, maybe. 395 00:23:35,382 --> 00:23:38,929 I'm guessing him to be in his mid to late 50s, with a beard. 396 00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:40,430 All of us went inside. 397 00:23:40,431 --> 00:23:45,231 We found out that there was nobody in there. 398 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,400 Okay. 399 00:23:58,282 --> 00:24:00,862 [ Gate creaks ] 400 00:24:01,335 --> 00:24:03,286 Allan: There's one kind of creepy dude. 401 00:24:03,287 --> 00:24:06,278 He's kind of like a greaser dude. 402 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:09,029 And he likes his area. 403 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:12,061 To me, he's, like, just a tough guy, you know? 404 00:24:12,062 --> 00:24:16,351 He's like, "I'm tough. I'm bad. I'm big. I'm bad". 405 00:24:16,352 --> 00:24:21,390 During my walks, I often encounter entities who act very territorial. 406 00:24:21,391 --> 00:24:26,405 Usually, it's because they want to protect their space, but the greaser guy... 407 00:24:26,406 --> 00:24:29,977 He wanted revenge on the people who had invaded his home. 408 00:24:29,978 --> 00:24:33,887 Like, would you say that he's dangerous? 409 00:24:33,888 --> 00:24:35,748 Yes. 410 00:24:36,821 --> 00:24:39,143 He's kind of [Bleep] up. 411 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:40,548 Narrator: Next... 412 00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:41,946 He can get physical. 413 00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:43,880 Narrator: Amy has a sickening encounter. 414 00:24:43,881 --> 00:24:47,961 It's, like, really hurting my head. 415 00:25:02,061 --> 00:25:04,223 Di Schiavi: Amy and I were investigating not one, 416 00:25:04,224 --> 00:25:07,727 but two family-run businesses, both on the same property. 417 00:25:07,728 --> 00:25:10,730 The activity had gotten so bad that the owner, Jeff, 418 00:25:10,731 --> 00:25:15,714 was concerned that his reputation wasn't the only thing in danger. 419 00:25:15,715 --> 00:25:17,737 Di Schiavi: So, what's going on in here? 420 00:25:17,738 --> 00:25:20,339 Jeff: I remember a time I was leaned over the back of a car, 421 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:24,635 and then suddenly someone whispers in my ear. 422 00:25:24,636 --> 00:25:27,980 I stand up. There was nothing in here. 423 00:25:27,981 --> 00:25:29,649 Anything else, Jeff? 424 00:25:29,650 --> 00:25:33,295 We started to notice that tools would come up missing. 425 00:25:33,296 --> 00:25:36,408 If you can't find them, you can't work with them. 426 00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:40,522 Do you think that anything that's going on in the garage can be dangerous? 427 00:25:40,523 --> 00:25:41,892 Yes. 428 00:25:41,893 --> 00:25:44,220 Jeff: I was really worried about everyone's safety. 429 00:25:44,221 --> 00:25:46,250 Because I felt like, 430 00:25:46,251 --> 00:25:49,526 if it could move something small or throw, like, a roll of tape, 431 00:25:49,527 --> 00:25:54,774 that it could definitely throw something big or sharp. 432 00:25:54,775 --> 00:25:57,476 He doesn't want anybody in his space. He hates them. 433 00:25:57,477 --> 00:26:02,484 Living or dead, he just doesn't want anybody in this space. 434 00:26:02,485 --> 00:26:05,184 Some people think of the dead as transparent beings 435 00:26:05,185 --> 00:26:08,126 who have very little interaction with our world. 436 00:26:08,127 --> 00:26:12,542 That's somewhat correct, but the stronger ones can actually break the physical plane. 437 00:26:12,543 --> 00:26:18,254 And if provoked, they can touch the living, move objects, or do something worse. 438 00:26:18,255 --> 00:26:21,234 He can get physical if he wants to... 439 00:26:21,235 --> 00:26:24,169 Grabbing or pushing. 440 00:26:24,170 --> 00:26:26,309 - Okay. - Likes to throw things. 441 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:28,109 Could he hurt anybody? 442 00:26:28,110 --> 00:26:31,950 I think he... I think he could. 443 00:26:34,562 --> 00:26:37,319 Di Schiavi: Jeff had his fair share of problems on the property, 444 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,062 but he wasn't the type of guy to just run away. 445 00:26:40,063 --> 00:26:42,780 His wife, on the other hand, was ready to split. 446 00:26:42,781 --> 00:26:44,753 But soon, we were all about to find out 447 00:26:44,754 --> 00:26:50,094 there was no way she could have run away from this. 448 00:26:53,879 --> 00:26:57,453 So, Emily, I was talking to your husband, Jeff, and he basically said you're ready 449 00:26:57,454 --> 00:27:00,805 to put the "for sale" sign on this place and get out of here. What's going on? 450 00:27:00,806 --> 00:27:05,436 From the first time we unlocked the door here, it's never felt like it's been ours. 451 00:27:05,437 --> 00:27:06,795 Why do you say that? 452 00:27:06,796 --> 00:27:12,696 Stuff moves, people get pushed, you hear people whisper in your ears. 453 00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:15,747 Okay, so you're losing business because of what's going on? 454 00:27:15,748 --> 00:27:17,581 Absolutely. 455 00:27:17,582 --> 00:27:19,698 Emily: So many people have had experiences here. 456 00:27:19,699 --> 00:27:21,861 It's a small town, and word gets around. 457 00:27:21,862 --> 00:27:27,088 So, I don't want to get a bad name for being the haunted salon. 458 00:27:27,089 --> 00:27:29,127 I'd love for it all to stop and go away, 459 00:27:29,128 --> 00:27:32,964 but I just don't know if that's what's gonna happen. 460 00:27:32,965 --> 00:27:35,366 All right, so you feel that whatever's here wants you out? 461 00:27:35,367 --> 00:27:37,647 Absolutely. 462 00:27:41,974 --> 00:27:46,828 Allan: There's a lot of stuff coming in from outside. 463 00:27:46,829 --> 00:27:51,449 I'm, like, seeing this woman who's alive. 464 00:27:51,499 --> 00:27:54,846 The dead are just, like, following her. 465 00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:58,147 And then they're inside. 466 00:27:58,657 --> 00:28:00,685 That was the moment I realized, 467 00:28:00,686 --> 00:28:05,830 the dead there were attracted to a specific person for a very specific reason. 468 00:28:05,831 --> 00:28:07,665 Why are they following her? 469 00:28:07,666 --> 00:28:10,909 Because she has abilities. 470 00:28:10,910 --> 00:28:13,450 Di Schiavi: Okay, so what's going on here? 471 00:28:13,451 --> 00:28:15,713 Emily: My daughter talks about seeing things. 472 00:28:15,714 --> 00:28:19,869 She even drew a picture of, like, a black figure with red eyes, 473 00:28:19,870 --> 00:28:21,865 and she said that's something she saw here. 474 00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:23,948 - Where's the picture? - I threw it away immediately. 475 00:28:23,949 --> 00:28:27,719 It made my heart stop, because I don't want to be putting her in danger. 476 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,087 Emily, your daughter's 9? 477 00:28:29,088 --> 00:28:32,350 Yes. I want to preserve her innocence. 478 00:28:32,351 --> 00:28:34,423 I don't want her to be scared. 479 00:28:34,424 --> 00:28:36,344 Okay. 480 00:28:39,087 --> 00:28:41,441 Allan: This is creepy. 481 00:28:41,442 --> 00:28:43,112 Anderson: What is? 482 00:28:43,113 --> 00:28:44,692 The thing that's in here. 483 00:28:44,693 --> 00:28:48,472 It makes me feel uncomfortable and scared. 484 00:28:48,473 --> 00:28:52,673 It looked like... like a Grim Reaper. 485 00:28:53,378 --> 00:28:56,214 The classic image of death is the Grim Reaper... 486 00:28:56,215 --> 00:28:59,516 A skeleton wearing a dark cloak and carrying a sickle, 487 00:28:59,517 --> 00:29:02,982 but I know death looks nothing like that. 488 00:29:02,983 --> 00:29:06,388 But I think it's, you know, just a regular dead person. 489 00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:11,996 So, when I saw a Reaper, I knew it was only a projection meant to scare the living. 490 00:29:11,997 --> 00:29:15,409 And the person hiding behind that illusion... 491 00:29:15,410 --> 00:29:18,274 Was the greaser man. 492 00:29:18,275 --> 00:29:21,195 Now I'm picking up on his death state, 493 00:29:21,196 --> 00:29:25,209 and feeling everything that he went through physically. 494 00:29:25,210 --> 00:29:28,512 It's, like, really hurting my head. 495 00:29:28,513 --> 00:29:30,915 I just feel very, very sick. 496 00:29:30,916 --> 00:29:32,667 You gonna be all right? 497 00:29:32,668 --> 00:29:35,319 I'm out of it. Like, my equilibrium's off. 498 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,200 I'm... disoriented. 499 00:29:39,024 --> 00:29:42,144 It [Bleep] hurts, man. 500 00:29:43,028 --> 00:29:44,331 Narrator: Next... 501 00:29:44,332 --> 00:29:46,429 I think the death is suspicious. 502 00:29:46,430 --> 00:29:48,632 Steve follows a trail of tragedy. 503 00:29:48,633 --> 00:29:50,356 Were you surprised when they found him dead? 504 00:29:50,357 --> 00:29:53,201 And what happened after the investigation? 505 00:29:53,202 --> 00:29:57,042 I wasn't expecting that at all. 506 00:30:10,143 --> 00:30:12,827 Di Schiavi: Emily and Jeff ran two businesses out of their property. 507 00:30:12,828 --> 00:30:15,830 But before that, it was just a residential home. 508 00:30:15,831 --> 00:30:18,341 My first move was to meet with the former owner. 509 00:30:18,342 --> 00:30:22,369 Talking to her, it sounded like anyone who spent time at that house... 510 00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:24,950 Wound up dead. 511 00:30:32,881 --> 00:30:36,671 Di Schiavi: Cheryl, I got called in to investigate your old home. 512 00:30:36,672 --> 00:30:39,149 - How long did you live there? - About five years. 513 00:30:39,150 --> 00:30:42,208 What did you use the garage for, or was it always a garage? 514 00:30:42,209 --> 00:30:46,799 We did a lot of hangouts with friends in there. 515 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,396 People came by every day, and it was like... 516 00:30:51,397 --> 00:30:53,320 They lived there. 517 00:30:53,321 --> 00:30:55,084 People that are living there now are claiming 518 00:30:55,085 --> 00:30:57,164 there's a lot of paranormal activity going on. 519 00:30:57,165 --> 00:30:58,931 Did you ever experience anything like that? 520 00:30:58,932 --> 00:31:01,368 We lost three of our dear friends within a year. 521 00:31:01,369 --> 00:31:02,983 - Really? - Right. 522 00:31:02,984 --> 00:31:04,771 This is Kevin. 523 00:31:04,772 --> 00:31:09,342 Kevin was hit by a car on his motorcycle, and he was killed instantly. 524 00:31:09,343 --> 00:31:13,613 And then we lost Tony. He had a stroke and he died. 525 00:31:13,614 --> 00:31:17,750 And then we had Mark. He had previously lived in the basement of that house. 526 00:31:17,751 --> 00:31:19,342 And what did he die of? 527 00:31:19,343 --> 00:31:21,181 He had some problems and some issues, 528 00:31:21,182 --> 00:31:25,596 and he lived in an apartment complex that had a lot of people that did drugs in it. 529 00:31:25,597 --> 00:31:29,137 Whatever he was doing, he just looked worse every time I saw him. 530 00:31:29,138 --> 00:31:33,278 He went to bed and didn't wake up. 531 00:31:34,441 --> 00:31:36,550 Were you surprised when they found him dead? 532 00:31:36,551 --> 00:31:38,351 No. 533 00:31:43,377 --> 00:31:46,045 Allan: The greaser dude... 534 00:31:46,046 --> 00:31:51,086 He's tall, he's wearing a black, like, '50s biker jacket. 535 00:31:51,087 --> 00:31:55,647 He killed himself when he was intoxicated. 536 00:31:56,403 --> 00:32:00,167 Now that I knew how the man had died, I was concerned. 537 00:32:00,168 --> 00:32:04,054 He needed to leave that location, and only I could help him. 538 00:32:04,055 --> 00:32:08,391 Unfortunately, his temper was the one thing getting in my way. 539 00:32:08,392 --> 00:32:11,812 He's mad and walked away. 540 00:32:15,633 --> 00:32:19,593 He's not gonna talk to me again. 541 00:32:20,985 --> 00:32:22,978 Di Schiavi: At this point, I had three deaths that 542 00:32:22,979 --> 00:32:25,742 were loosely connected to Jeff and Emily's place. 543 00:32:25,743 --> 00:32:28,910 But I wanted to know if anyone had actually died on the property. 544 00:32:28,911 --> 00:32:30,818 A local journalist gave me just that... 545 00:32:30,819 --> 00:32:33,357 A former owner who fell down the stairs. 546 00:32:33,358 --> 00:32:35,267 Her choice of a meeting spot was odd. 547 00:32:35,268 --> 00:32:40,728 But as soon as I got there, I understood the meaning. 548 00:32:47,665 --> 00:32:51,441 Maria: This is actually where Helen Hillman is buried. 549 00:32:51,442 --> 00:32:54,797 She was married when she was 19 in 1917. 550 00:32:54,798 --> 00:32:58,425 Then they moved from Arkansas to right outside of Wichita, Kansas, 551 00:32:58,426 --> 00:33:00,482 on the property that you're investigating. 552 00:33:00,483 --> 00:33:03,365 Now, what were you able to find out about the circumstances of her death? 553 00:33:03,366 --> 00:33:08,660 Well, according to her death certificate, it's a massive head injury. 554 00:33:08,661 --> 00:33:12,195 Even though she was 79, according to her descendent, she was in good health. 555 00:33:12,196 --> 00:33:14,891 She was active, she lived independently. 556 00:33:14,892 --> 00:33:16,727 All right, so it was odd the way she died. 557 00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:19,329 She had lived in that house for so long, 558 00:33:19,330 --> 00:33:22,188 and the distance between the stairs and the floor 559 00:33:22,189 --> 00:33:24,835 wouldn't be enough to kill someone, typically. 560 00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:27,387 I don't know if that fall can cause injuries like that. 561 00:33:27,388 --> 00:33:32,788 Yes, and that's why I think the death is suspicious. 562 00:33:33,211 --> 00:33:36,382 Allan: There's another person. 563 00:33:36,383 --> 00:33:39,923 I think she broke her neck. 564 00:33:41,105 --> 00:33:45,722 Early to mid '70s... that's when she died. 565 00:33:45,723 --> 00:33:49,503 Phew! She was dead, like, fast. 566 00:33:53,097 --> 00:33:56,517 Oh, God, it [Bleep] hurts. 567 00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:08,344 When I do a sketch, the idea is to put a face to one of the entities I saw. 568 00:34:08,345 --> 00:34:11,347 But sometimes I need to take it to the next level. 569 00:34:11,348 --> 00:34:14,014 And in this case, I wanted to show how one of the living 570 00:34:14,015 --> 00:34:16,853 was the source of that property's problems. 571 00:34:16,854 --> 00:34:21,954 I saw this woman at the door, about to open it. 572 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,602 Behind her... 573 00:34:25,603 --> 00:34:29,023 Is this really tall man... 574 00:34:29,341 --> 00:34:33,721 And he is wearing, like, a black cloak. 575 00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:42,215 Hey, Amy, is this what you saw? 576 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:45,779 Yes. 577 00:34:45,782 --> 00:34:47,342 Narrator: Coming up next... 578 00:34:47,343 --> 00:34:48,382 He wants you out. 579 00:34:48,383 --> 00:34:50,821 Amy exposes a disturbing secret... 580 00:34:50,822 --> 00:34:53,577 Is there a reason why you're running from it? 581 00:34:53,578 --> 00:34:56,735 Narrator: That changes the clients' lives forever... 582 00:34:56,736 --> 00:34:59,237 For us, the final chapter hasn't been written yet. 583 00:34:59,238 --> 00:35:01,298 All negativity must leave. 584 00:35:01,299 --> 00:35:05,319 Narrator: On "Dead Files Revisited". 585 00:35:26,513 --> 00:35:28,848 Di Schiavi: This is Emily and Jeff. 586 00:35:28,849 --> 00:35:31,183 Jeff actually runs the garage here. 587 00:35:31,184 --> 00:35:34,186 Emily runs the salon up front. 588 00:35:34,187 --> 00:35:35,832 Emily: When I first met Amy, 589 00:35:35,833 --> 00:35:39,199 I felt like she could look into my soul when I looked into her eyes. 590 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,258 Her green eyes kind of just felt like they looked right through you. 591 00:35:43,259 --> 00:35:49,031 Allan: When I started my walk, I came into contact with this creepy male. 592 00:35:49,032 --> 00:35:54,672 His hair is greased back. He hates anybody in his space. 593 00:35:55,380 --> 00:36:00,049 When he gets upset, he likes to yell, he likes to throw things. 594 00:36:00,050 --> 00:36:01,894 Di Schiavi: Of all the deaths on that property, 595 00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:04,958 the guy Amy described reminded me of Mark. 596 00:36:04,959 --> 00:36:09,762 He actually lived in the basement of your salon. 597 00:36:09,763 --> 00:36:12,164 And Jeff agreed with me. 598 00:36:12,165 --> 00:36:14,103 This guy look familiar at all? 599 00:36:14,104 --> 00:36:17,411 Yeah. I remember distinctly seeing this. 600 00:36:17,412 --> 00:36:20,797 Jeff: When Steve took that out, I connected with the eyes. 601 00:36:20,798 --> 00:36:24,083 He had the distinct glare, looking down at us. 602 00:36:24,084 --> 00:36:26,980 I honestly thought that it wasn't safe to stay here. 603 00:36:26,981 --> 00:36:30,599 Would he hurt me or somebody out here or is he just trying to scare us? 604 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,270 No. He wants to hurt you. He wants you out. 605 00:36:35,271 --> 00:36:37,606 So, what else did you see on your walk? 606 00:36:37,607 --> 00:36:40,558 A woman up in the attic area. 607 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:45,299 Her death was so fast and extremely painful. 608 00:36:45,543 --> 00:36:50,103 And I did get that she died in the '70s. 609 00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:54,674 There's a woman... Helen Hillman... who lived in the house that your salon is in. 610 00:36:54,675 --> 00:36:57,380 1977 is when she died. 611 00:36:57,381 --> 00:37:01,245 She fell down the steps into the basement. 612 00:37:01,246 --> 00:37:03,043 Wow. 613 00:37:03,044 --> 00:37:07,052 Emily: That was really sad, knowing that someone has died here. 614 00:37:07,053 --> 00:37:09,149 By falling down the staircase. 615 00:37:09,150 --> 00:37:14,850 That's horrible to think of... falling to your own death. 616 00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:17,231 So, what else did you get on the walk? 617 00:37:17,232 --> 00:37:19,827 Allan: What I saw was... 618 00:37:19,828 --> 00:37:22,661 Your typical Grim Reaper. 619 00:37:22,662 --> 00:37:28,270 So, as I'm looking deeper, I can feel and tell that it's a dead male... 620 00:37:28,271 --> 00:37:31,720 That he... hid in life a lot. 621 00:37:31,721 --> 00:37:34,875 And now he's hiding again in death. 622 00:37:34,876 --> 00:37:38,111 Basically, he wants to cause pain... 623 00:37:38,112 --> 00:37:40,447 And to hurt people. 624 00:37:40,448 --> 00:37:42,949 I could tell my findings about the Grim Reaper 625 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:45,449 were definitely startling Jeff and Emily. 626 00:37:45,450 --> 00:37:50,319 Unfortunately, my most troubling revelation was yet to come. 627 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,661 The other thing that I saw was a sensitive... 628 00:37:54,662 --> 00:37:57,745 Who lets the dead into the main house. 629 00:37:57,746 --> 00:38:00,113 They just kind of follow her in. 630 00:38:00,114 --> 00:38:03,894 This includes the Grim Reaper guy. 631 00:38:03,895 --> 00:38:05,671 Emily: I was ready for just... 632 00:38:05,672 --> 00:38:09,006 This is what happened, this is the facts, this is what we saw. 633 00:38:09,007 --> 00:38:11,512 And bless the place, and it's over. 634 00:38:11,513 --> 00:38:14,180 And that's not what it was all about. 635 00:38:14,181 --> 00:38:17,684 Amy went deeper and found out more. 636 00:38:17,685 --> 00:38:20,902 Allan: I did do a sketch of what I saw... 637 00:38:20,903 --> 00:38:26,250 As far as this individual leading several dead people into the house. 638 00:38:26,251 --> 00:38:28,111 Hmm. 639 00:38:32,803 --> 00:38:35,203 Is that me? 640 00:38:39,322 --> 00:38:42,938 What kind of experiences have you had? 641 00:38:42,939 --> 00:38:44,979 A lot. 642 00:38:45,381 --> 00:38:47,288 Emily: It kind of took my breath away at first. 643 00:38:47,289 --> 00:38:49,567 I've never shared this with anyone before. 644 00:38:49,568 --> 00:38:51,303 It's not something you really talk about. 645 00:38:51,304 --> 00:38:57,099 I didn't want to look upon as being a freak or something. 646 00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:02,500 Allan: Is there a reason why you're running from it? 647 00:39:02,665 --> 00:39:07,604 It's something that, if you run, they're gonna follow you. 648 00:39:07,605 --> 00:39:11,086 And it's hereditary. It runs in families. 649 00:39:11,087 --> 00:39:14,567 I see it with my daughter. 650 00:39:15,838 --> 00:39:18,930 Di Schiavi: The most important question is, is it gonna be safe for you guys, 651 00:39:18,931 --> 00:39:22,929 your employees, customers, most importantly, your family? 652 00:39:22,930 --> 00:39:26,453 The first thing is to take care of the girl in the attic. 653 00:39:26,454 --> 00:39:30,365 Get some Sage and some salt. Go ahead and Sage the building inside and out, 654 00:39:30,366 --> 00:39:32,692 then taking the salt... 655 00:39:32,693 --> 00:39:37,639 And drawing a line all around the outside of the building, as well. 656 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,444 What about the Grim Reaper and the greaser guy? 657 00:39:40,445 --> 00:39:45,565 So, the greaser guy and the Grim Reaper are actually the same person. 658 00:39:45,566 --> 00:39:49,167 Occasionally, I'll meet a dead person... 659 00:39:49,168 --> 00:39:52,468 That forms an attachment. 660 00:39:53,641 --> 00:39:55,218 So... 661 00:39:55,219 --> 00:39:59,591 I'm going to go ahead and take him home with me. 662 00:39:59,592 --> 00:40:03,332 I try not to make it a habit of removing entities from a location. 663 00:40:03,333 --> 00:40:06,619 But Jeff and Emily couldn't handle that guy on their own. 664 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:10,168 He needed someone like me to help him move on. 665 00:40:10,169 --> 00:40:13,206 You need to learn how to control your environment 666 00:40:13,207 --> 00:40:16,213 and your daughter's environment so she can protect herself, as well. 667 00:40:16,214 --> 00:40:22,114 You gonna be alright doing this with your daughter, you gonna be comfortable with it? 668 00:40:37,085 --> 00:40:38,486 Jeff: The night after the reveal, 669 00:40:38,487 --> 00:40:43,407 we immediately went and performed the cleansing. 670 00:40:44,625 --> 00:40:46,365 Emily was definitely overwhelmed, 671 00:40:46,366 --> 00:40:50,130 knowing that she had the power to remove these things. 672 00:40:50,131 --> 00:40:52,632 So, that's just a lot of weight on a person's shoulders... 673 00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:56,390 To know that it's their job to move these things on. 674 00:40:56,391 --> 00:41:00,040 Emily: All negativity must leave this location. 675 00:41:00,041 --> 00:41:03,877 I was very concerned. I just didn't want to put anyone in jeopardy. 676 00:41:03,878 --> 00:41:09,278 I didn't want to cause anyone fear or pain or hurt. 677 00:41:10,097 --> 00:41:14,264 It's very interesting, but since the cleansing, we've had more activity. 678 00:41:14,265 --> 00:41:17,821 Stuff moves, you hear people whisper in your ears. 679 00:41:17,822 --> 00:41:20,136 It's very scary. 680 00:41:20,137 --> 00:41:25,856 Jeff: As we saw things still progress, we did more cleansings. 681 00:41:25,857 --> 00:41:31,757 We've done two more since then, and we're working to continue to cleanse the house. 682 00:41:31,849 --> 00:41:34,992 Emily: I do feel the pressure that I'm the one that needs to help 683 00:41:34,993 --> 00:41:37,453 these spirits or these entities pass over. 684 00:41:37,454 --> 00:41:40,882 Only light, love, and peace may enter this location. 685 00:41:40,883 --> 00:41:44,063 And that's very heavy. 686 00:41:46,784 --> 00:41:49,246 Jeff: For us, the final chapter hasn't been written yet. 687 00:41:49,247 --> 00:41:53,417 Emily's gonna have to learn to work with these things. 688 00:41:53,418 --> 00:41:59,318 This is a lifelong process that she and my daughter have to both be able to do this. 689 00:41:59,924 --> 00:42:03,164 No negativity may enter. 690 00:42:03,422 --> 00:42:09,322 And these cleansings are just going to be a part of life now. 691 00:42:11,457 --> 00:42:14,007 Allan: I'm still concerned about Jeff and Emily. 692 00:42:14,008 --> 00:42:18,179 Regular cleansings might eventually help calm things down here, 693 00:42:18,180 --> 00:42:21,632 but learning to control your abilities is a lifelong struggle. 694 00:42:21,633 --> 00:42:25,713 And Emily's journey has just begun. 695 00:42:25,738 --> 00:42:31,638 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. 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