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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:05,839 --> 00:00:08,828 There's a lot of frickin' dead people here. 3 00:00:08,829 --> 00:00:10,930 We just get that creepy feeling. 4 00:00:10,931 --> 00:00:12,367 You feel it. 5 00:00:12,368 --> 00:00:14,503 He was evil. 6 00:00:14,504 --> 00:00:17,873 He's missing his whole face. 7 00:00:17,874 --> 00:00:19,393 He was found guilty. 8 00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:21,370 - They lost everything? - They lost everything. 9 00:00:21,371 --> 00:00:23,906 There's a hole in my head. [Bleep] 10 00:00:23,907 --> 00:00:26,175 I want the answers. 11 00:00:26,176 --> 00:00:27,009 This is not good. 12 00:00:27,010 --> 00:00:29,840 Could this be dangerous? 13 00:00:29,841 --> 00:00:34,641 There is an unhealthy attachment to the dead. 14 00:00:36,053 --> 00:00:38,318 They're being watched. 15 00:00:38,319 --> 00:00:41,439 My name is Amy Allan. 16 00:00:41,514 --> 00:00:44,093 This thing likes death. 17 00:00:44,094 --> 00:00:45,128 I see dead people. 18 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:46,763 This thing's, like, a monster. 19 00:00:46,764 --> 00:00:48,765 I speak to dead people... 20 00:00:48,766 --> 00:00:50,166 And he's pissed off now. 21 00:00:50,167 --> 00:00:51,868 And they speak to me... 22 00:00:51,869 --> 00:00:53,669 His head was cracked. 23 00:00:53,670 --> 00:00:57,206 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 24 00:00:57,207 --> 00:00:58,742 This guy was murdered. 25 00:00:58,743 --> 00:01:00,241 I rely on my partner... 26 00:01:00,242 --> 00:01:03,544 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective... 27 00:01:03,545 --> 00:01:06,196 I cannot help you unless I know the whole story. 28 00:01:06,197 --> 00:01:09,499 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:10,830 You saw her? 30 00:01:10,831 --> 00:01:12,202 It's my job to reveal them. 31 00:01:12,203 --> 00:01:13,237 Why would you stay here? 32 00:01:13,238 --> 00:01:15,530 But Steve and I never speak... 33 00:01:15,531 --> 00:01:17,641 We never communicate during an investigation. 34 00:01:17,642 --> 00:01:19,009 Until the very end. 35 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:20,782 [ Echoing ] Stop it. 36 00:01:20,783 --> 00:01:22,813 We uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 37 00:01:22,814 --> 00:01:25,242 I want to know the truth. I want to know what's happening. 38 00:01:25,243 --> 00:01:26,572 Or time to get out. 39 00:01:26,573 --> 00:01:32,033 [ Crying ] I told you there were ghosts in this house. 40 00:01:47,839 --> 00:01:50,107 Di Schiavi: Amy and I work independently of one another. 41 00:01:50,108 --> 00:01:53,742 I interview witnesses and research the history of the location. 42 00:01:53,743 --> 00:01:56,834 To see if there's anything unusual about its past. 43 00:01:56,835 --> 00:02:00,917 While Amy communicates with the dead. 44 00:02:00,918 --> 00:02:03,720 I'm in Rock Island, Illinois, a few hours West of Chicago. 45 00:02:03,721 --> 00:02:06,189 I'm on my way to meet with a woman named Melissa, 46 00:02:06,190 --> 00:02:07,949 who says she and her 4 year old daughter 47 00:02:07,950 --> 00:02:10,927 are being terrorized by spirits in the house. 48 00:02:10,928 --> 00:02:16,748 She sounds pretty bad, and I'm hoping Amy and I can help. 49 00:02:21,339 --> 00:02:26,703 Anderson: Before Amy arrives, I have to clear the area of any leading information. 50 00:02:26,704 --> 00:02:29,095 This house contains a lot of family photographs. 51 00:02:29,096 --> 00:02:33,217 So it's important I remove them, along with the kids' names. 52 00:02:33,218 --> 00:02:37,118 To avoid influencing her findings. 53 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:58,742 Allan: There's a lot of frickin' dead people here... 54 00:02:58,743 --> 00:03:01,683 Very, very negative. 55 00:03:02,313 --> 00:03:06,573 There's, like, people under the trees. 56 00:03:10,155 --> 00:03:14,223 There's also this other really creepy dude. 57 00:03:14,224 --> 00:03:17,495 He wears a cloak, and... 58 00:03:17,496 --> 00:03:21,936 He's missing pretty much his whole face. 59 00:03:23,445 --> 00:03:25,981 He works with these people in the trees, though. 60 00:03:25,982 --> 00:03:29,942 They're, like, underlings for him. 61 00:03:31,298 --> 00:03:35,558 He wants to get rid of living people. 62 00:03:50,672 --> 00:03:53,737 So, Melissa, I understand that you and your four year old daughter, 63 00:03:53,738 --> 00:03:55,210 are having problems in the house. 64 00:03:55,211 --> 00:03:57,690 - Yes. - Okay. Who else lives here? 65 00:03:57,691 --> 00:04:01,006 My husband, Mike, and our 7 year old son, Nathan. 66 00:04:01,007 --> 00:04:02,217 And how long you living here? 67 00:04:02,218 --> 00:04:04,382 We've lived here about five years. 68 00:04:04,383 --> 00:04:06,648 So, what kind of things are you experiencing? 69 00:04:06,649 --> 00:04:10,358 We're seeing apparitions, shadows. 70 00:04:10,359 --> 00:04:14,296 Our daughter, Madison... we want her to not be afraid. 71 00:04:14,297 --> 00:04:16,314 We want her to have a normal childhood. 72 00:04:16,315 --> 00:04:17,686 What's going on with her? 73 00:04:17,687 --> 00:04:19,926 She would wake up in the middle of the night screaming, 74 00:04:19,927 --> 00:04:23,262 that a little girl was in her bed. 75 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:24,497 What about Nathan? 76 00:04:24,498 --> 00:04:28,721 He mentioned that there was one time he was coming up the basement stairs. 77 00:04:28,722 --> 00:04:31,818 And it felt like someone grabbed the back of his shirt, 78 00:04:31,819 --> 00:04:34,224 and was trying to pull him down the stairs. 79 00:04:34,225 --> 00:04:36,509 Now, when did things kind of pick up here? 80 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:41,847 When we moved in, I was pregnant with my son Noah and Nathan was about 2. 81 00:04:41,848 --> 00:04:44,521 And um, I noticed... 82 00:04:44,522 --> 00:04:47,053 Um, a shadow in the basement. 83 00:04:47,054 --> 00:04:49,539 Okay. You said your son Noah. You didn't mention Noah. 84 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:55,180 Yeah, I was pregnant with Noah when we bought the house. 85 00:04:55,495 --> 00:04:59,398 He passed pretty much right away after he was born. 86 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:02,999 Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. 87 00:05:11,078 --> 00:05:14,313 There's two people here who are mediums. 88 00:05:14,314 --> 00:05:17,849 One of them is extremely developed. 89 00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:20,619 It might be a child. 90 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:23,260 [ Child laughs ] 91 00:05:24,757 --> 00:05:29,395 This living person is very attracted to death. 92 00:05:29,396 --> 00:05:32,298 They want it around. 93 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:38,199 I think there's family members that this person's held onto or friends. 94 00:05:38,938 --> 00:05:42,778 Unhealthy attachment to the dead. 95 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:56,255 This is the room that I and my son feel most uncomfortable in. 96 00:05:56,256 --> 00:05:58,757 We just get that creepy feeling. 97 00:05:58,758 --> 00:06:01,925 I feel like I'm being watched down here. 98 00:06:01,926 --> 00:06:04,723 And we've heard footsteps above us. 99 00:06:04,724 --> 00:06:06,318 Has anybody else heard it besides you? 100 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:11,303 Yes. When we've had friends over, they have heard it. 101 00:06:11,304 --> 00:06:16,519 I don't like it, and it's like when I go up the stairs to go back upstairs... 102 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,961 It's almost like if you were being chased up the stairs, 103 00:06:18,962 --> 00:06:21,647 how you want to hurry up and get to the top. 104 00:06:21,648 --> 00:06:24,588 That's how I feel. 105 00:06:27,732 --> 00:06:33,325 The people from the trees, they do have to [Bleep] with people. 106 00:06:33,326 --> 00:06:37,396 Because they do have to follow the orders. 107 00:06:37,397 --> 00:06:40,660 The cloaked man who's in control of the dead from outside 108 00:06:40,661 --> 00:06:43,702 sends them into the basement to torment the living. 109 00:06:43,703 --> 00:06:47,039 I think it's his mission to have this house destroyed. 110 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,760 Some of them don't have legs. 111 00:06:52,656 --> 00:06:58,176 I saw one, like, pulling, pulling on the person's leg. 112 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,987 I know that the living person's scared. 113 00:07:04,988 --> 00:07:10,148 They should be, because these things are not good. 114 00:07:18,430 --> 00:07:23,775 This is where most of her experiences, if not all of them, happen. 115 00:07:23,776 --> 00:07:28,080 She would wake up almost nightly between 3:00 and 3:30 A.M. 116 00:07:28,081 --> 00:07:31,383 And she would be screaming and crying, there's a little girl in my bed! 117 00:07:31,384 --> 00:07:34,086 Okay. Now, does she say the girl is threatening her? 118 00:07:34,087 --> 00:07:35,994 She says she wants to play with her. 119 00:07:35,995 --> 00:07:40,069 She says, the little girl wants to play, and I don't want to play with her, mom. 120 00:07:40,070 --> 00:07:43,268 She wakes up in the middle of the night, crying um... 121 00:07:43,269 --> 00:07:47,927 Just blood-curdling scream that there are guys in her ears. 122 00:07:47,928 --> 00:07:53,828 And she'll say that sometimes it sounds like a whoosh, whoosh, whoosh. 123 00:07:54,907 --> 00:07:57,056 I don't like being in here by myself. 124 00:07:57,057 --> 00:08:00,755 So I don't really blame her for not wanting to be in here. 125 00:08:00,756 --> 00:08:03,756 By herself at night. 126 00:08:07,939 --> 00:08:10,155 Mm-mm. No, no, no. 127 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:13,156 They just come in... 128 00:08:14,394 --> 00:08:18,029 Solid-ass dead people. Like, they present themselves. 129 00:08:18,030 --> 00:08:21,990 It's a thing they do to mediums. 130 00:08:28,243 --> 00:08:33,343 If they're doing that, then the kid is advanced. 131 00:08:40,153 --> 00:08:41,912 So, what's going on in here? 132 00:08:41,913 --> 00:08:45,924 This is actually where Madison was sleeping with me one night. 133 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:50,362 She wasn't feeling well, and she was talking about the man under the bed. 134 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:51,563 Which bed... this one? 135 00:08:51,564 --> 00:08:54,950 This bed, and, actually, there is no under the bed. 136 00:08:54,951 --> 00:09:00,171 - What do you mean? - The mattress sits pretty low. 137 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:01,903 You got about this much room under there. 138 00:09:01,904 --> 00:09:05,525 Right. And so, I decided to give her a piece of paper and a crayon, 139 00:09:05,526 --> 00:09:08,059 and I asked her to draw me the picture. 140 00:09:08,060 --> 00:09:13,262 And she drew a circle with a frowny face and red circles all over its face. 141 00:09:13,263 --> 00:09:16,794 - Do you have that picture? - I don't still have that picture. 142 00:09:16,795 --> 00:09:18,397 Anything else in this room? 143 00:09:18,398 --> 00:09:23,222 This is also where I experienced what felt like someone sit on the bed... 144 00:09:23,223 --> 00:09:25,511 And I actually felt the bed... 145 00:09:25,512 --> 00:09:28,628 Like this, like someone sitting there... 146 00:09:28,629 --> 00:09:29,482 Okay. 147 00:09:29,483 --> 00:09:31,863 And I looked and there was nobody there, and I'm like, 148 00:09:31,864 --> 00:09:36,021 well, maybe I just felt something, and then I felt the bed lift. 149 00:09:36,022 --> 00:09:38,905 - When this happened, were you sleeping? - No, I was not asleep yet. 150 00:09:38,906 --> 00:09:43,526 I was laying there, trying to fall asleep. 151 00:09:48,001 --> 00:09:50,546 The dead in here... 152 00:09:50,547 --> 00:09:53,487 Are from out there. 153 00:09:55,388 --> 00:10:01,088 They are the people from the trees, and so many come in. 154 00:10:04,295 --> 00:10:07,059 Anderson: What are they trying to do? 155 00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:09,340 Hurt them. 156 00:10:33,321 --> 00:10:35,381 Di Schiavi: Mike, I spoke with your wife, Melissa. 157 00:10:35,382 --> 00:10:38,617 It seemed obvious that your daughter was her biggest concern. 158 00:10:38,618 --> 00:10:41,466 That's the biggest concern for me is my daughter... 159 00:10:41,467 --> 00:10:44,123 And Melissa has always told me things that have happened to her, 160 00:10:44,124 --> 00:10:47,717 and I haven't seen it myself, so for me, it was hard for me to believe... 161 00:10:47,718 --> 00:10:48,523 Right. 162 00:10:48,524 --> 00:10:51,763 But now that the daughter's in the picture, telling me kind of the same stuff, 163 00:10:51,764 --> 00:10:55,013 I tend to believe Madison because she's so small. 164 00:10:55,014 --> 00:10:56,335 Have you had any experiences? 165 00:10:56,336 --> 00:10:59,571 - I've had one here in Madison's room. - Explain that one to me. 166 00:10:59,572 --> 00:11:02,787 It was actually this shopping cart right here. 167 00:11:02,788 --> 00:11:06,337 And the shopping cart was actually in the middle of the room, like this... 168 00:11:06,338 --> 00:11:07,152 Okay. 169 00:11:07,153 --> 00:11:11,878 Loaded up with toys, and Madison woke up screaming and pointed at the shopping cart. 170 00:11:11,879 --> 00:11:14,293 Did you ask her what she was screaming about? 171 00:11:14,294 --> 00:11:16,905 I just assumed that she wanted it back by her bed again, 172 00:11:16,906 --> 00:11:21,060 so at that point I just said, all right. Put it right here next to you. 173 00:11:21,061 --> 00:11:24,629 Must've been probably a half-hour later... I was back in bed again myself. 174 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:26,532 She woke up screaming, shrieks. 175 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:27,632 Okay. 176 00:11:27,633 --> 00:11:30,006 And then I came back in here, and this rug was in the middle 177 00:11:30,007 --> 00:11:33,472 of the floor and the cart was turned and pushed to about here. 178 00:11:33,473 --> 00:11:36,448 - What happened? Did she push it? - Well, that was my first thought. 179 00:11:36,449 --> 00:11:38,190 I'm like, you know, she just pushed it away, 180 00:11:38,191 --> 00:11:41,110 but then if she just pushed it away, why would she be screaming about it? 181 00:11:41,111 --> 00:11:42,915 She didn't tell me that anybody had pushed it. 182 00:11:42,916 --> 00:11:45,300 She didn't tell me that anybody took it away from her. 183 00:11:45,301 --> 00:11:48,853 She was just screaming, pointing at that cart that moved. 184 00:11:48,854 --> 00:11:51,871 Now, Mike, after this incident happened, the stuff you can't explain, 185 00:11:51,872 --> 00:11:54,618 are you a skeptic, not a skeptic? What's your story? 186 00:11:54,619 --> 00:11:56,675 It opened my eyes is what it did. 187 00:11:56,676 --> 00:11:58,596 Okay. 188 00:12:01,434 --> 00:12:05,034 Allan: There's a disturbance. 189 00:12:05,371 --> 00:12:08,551 I hear things moving... 190 00:12:10,143 --> 00:12:11,943 Like, chairs moving... 191 00:12:11,944 --> 00:12:16,384 Mm, maybe a little bit of a poltergeist. 192 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,577 Yeah, and stuff happens in here... 193 00:12:21,578 --> 00:12:23,467 Poltergeist [Bleep] you know? 194 00:12:23,468 --> 00:12:26,011 Poltergeists are usually created unintentionally, 195 00:12:26,012 --> 00:12:29,640 when someone with abilities represses intense negative emotions. 196 00:12:29,641 --> 00:12:32,843 These powerful forces can interact with the physical world, 197 00:12:32,844 --> 00:12:35,512 and in some cases, harm living people. 198 00:12:35,513 --> 00:12:37,548 Do you have any idea who it's coming from? 199 00:12:37,549 --> 00:12:40,217 - Allan: I want to say a female. - Okay. 200 00:12:40,218 --> 00:12:44,373 The living person doesn't know how to release their [Bleep] emotions properly. 201 00:12:44,374 --> 00:12:46,276 Anything that could be dangerous? 202 00:12:46,277 --> 00:12:48,137 Yes. 203 00:12:50,772 --> 00:12:53,496 Di Schiavi: Mike, I know you're probably at your wits' end with this, 204 00:12:53,497 --> 00:12:56,414 but what are you hoping we can help you out with this investigation? 205 00:12:56,415 --> 00:12:59,726 I just want my kids to feel comfortable and safe everywhere in our house. 206 00:12:59,727 --> 00:13:02,997 Nathan is not really comfortable going in the basement by himself. 207 00:13:02,998 --> 00:13:05,800 Melissa is not real comfortable with the attic at all. 208 00:13:05,801 --> 00:13:07,268 - The attic? - Right. 209 00:13:07,269 --> 00:13:10,245 - She didn't mention the attic. - There's an attic out here in the hallway. 210 00:13:10,246 --> 00:13:13,726 - Can you show me? - Yeah. 211 00:13:21,805 --> 00:13:24,610 Di Schiavi: What's the story? Why does Melissa not like going up here? 212 00:13:24,611 --> 00:13:27,847 Just kind of a dark, creepy thing. She's just not real comfortable. 213 00:13:27,848 --> 00:13:29,782 I don't think she's ever been up here once. 214 00:13:29,783 --> 00:13:31,850 Right, and do you know much about the house? 215 00:13:31,851 --> 00:13:33,486 I know it was built back in the '40s. 216 00:13:33,487 --> 00:13:36,555 Before there was a house on the land, it was owned by John Looney, 217 00:13:36,556 --> 00:13:40,756 and he was a gangster back in the '20s to '40s in Rock Island. 218 00:13:40,757 --> 00:13:43,095 Okay. Let me ask you a question, though, Mike. 219 00:13:43,096 --> 00:13:47,367 If at the end of our investigation Amy turns around and says, you know what? 220 00:13:47,368 --> 00:13:50,824 You can't fix this. You got to get out of this house, what would you do? 221 00:13:50,825 --> 00:13:52,221 That would be hard for me. 222 00:13:52,222 --> 00:13:55,002 You know, as the husband and the father of the house, 223 00:13:55,003 --> 00:13:57,806 I want to be able to find the answers, 224 00:13:57,807 --> 00:14:00,538 to stop my daughter from screaming in the middle of the night. 225 00:14:00,539 --> 00:14:03,855 So I'm hoping having you guys out here, we'll be able to find some sort of answer. 226 00:14:03,856 --> 00:14:05,776 Okay. 227 00:14:13,427 --> 00:14:18,163 A lot of the people that are in the kids' area... 228 00:14:18,164 --> 00:14:22,458 They kind of live up here or hang out up here. 229 00:14:22,459 --> 00:14:25,425 But they all kind of work together. 230 00:14:25,426 --> 00:14:29,452 And they died in various ways and places. 231 00:14:29,453 --> 00:14:31,613 [ Sighs ] 232 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:36,639 [Bleep] This is not good. 233 00:14:43,790 --> 00:14:45,890 So, Nathan, I was talking to mom and dad before. 234 00:14:45,891 --> 00:14:48,733 They told me that you've been experiencing some stuff in the house here? 235 00:14:48,734 --> 00:14:50,830 - Uh-huh. - Explain that to me. 236 00:14:50,831 --> 00:14:53,165 I was in my bed, looking at the closet. 237 00:14:53,166 --> 00:14:57,369 I saw, like, a gray shadow running across it. 238 00:14:57,370 --> 00:15:01,979 - Which closet... the one outside? - Over there. 239 00:15:01,980 --> 00:15:05,811 - Can you make out what it was? - It was kind of a person shadow. 240 00:15:05,812 --> 00:15:09,125 - All right. So, did that scare you? - It scared me a lot. 241 00:15:09,126 --> 00:15:13,340 Just tried not to think of it and have a nightmare. 242 00:15:13,341 --> 00:15:17,456 - Okay. Did you tell anybody about it? - No, I haven't yet. 243 00:15:17,457 --> 00:15:19,658 You haven't? Okay. 244 00:15:19,659 --> 00:15:21,794 So, anything else happen? 245 00:15:21,795 --> 00:15:24,797 I felt someone trying to pull me downstairs. 246 00:15:24,798 --> 00:15:26,844 - Down in the basement? - Mm-hmm. 247 00:15:26,845 --> 00:15:30,002 - How? - Like, grabbing onto my shirt. 248 00:15:30,003 --> 00:15:32,571 Di Schiavi: I've been lied to by seasoned sociopaths, 249 00:15:32,572 --> 00:15:35,908 and I can always see through their lies, so when I'm talking to a kid, 250 00:15:35,909 --> 00:15:38,878 I know when they're telling me the truth, and this one is. 251 00:15:38,879 --> 00:15:41,527 Are you scared to be at home? 252 00:15:41,528 --> 00:15:43,388 Yes. 253 00:15:44,651 --> 00:15:49,930 Allan: The ones that are coming in here, they can get kind of nasty. 254 00:15:49,931 --> 00:15:52,945 They more look like shadows... 255 00:15:52,946 --> 00:15:56,328 But they, like, are up against the walls. 256 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:58,998 Two groups of dead people are roaming this structure... 257 00:15:58,999 --> 00:16:02,469 The ones presenting themselves to the mediums who live here. 258 00:16:02,470 --> 00:16:06,104 And the ones crawling across the floors of the basement and Master Bedroom. 259 00:16:06,105 --> 00:16:10,077 They have one thing in common... they both have bad intentions. 260 00:16:10,078 --> 00:16:13,076 Is there anything else these people can do to the living? 261 00:16:13,077 --> 00:16:18,977 You see them out of the corner of your eye, but you feel them. 262 00:16:19,103 --> 00:16:21,780 What will these things eventually do? 263 00:16:21,781 --> 00:16:24,781 Well, they can kill. 264 00:16:41,365 --> 00:16:43,967 Di Schiavi: Mike told me that a mobster used to own his land, 265 00:16:43,968 --> 00:16:48,371 so I made some calls, and it turns out he's right. 266 00:16:48,372 --> 00:16:52,477 Going to meet with a local author who says a guy by the name of John Looney 267 00:16:52,478 --> 00:16:58,378 used to run a bloody empire right off of Mike and Melissa's property. 268 00:17:03,872 --> 00:17:07,057 Di Schiavi: So, you wrote this book about Looney, and from what I understand, 269 00:17:07,058 --> 00:17:10,459 he actually owned the property that I'm investigating. 270 00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:12,097 - Is that correct? - That's correct. 271 00:17:12,098 --> 00:17:15,709 This is John Looney about the time he came to Rock Island. 272 00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:18,235 In the late 1800s... 273 00:17:18,236 --> 00:17:21,198 He met a woman named Nora O'Connor. 274 00:17:21,199 --> 00:17:25,017 They got married, and they had two daughters and a son. 275 00:17:25,018 --> 00:17:26,219 Okay. 276 00:17:26,220 --> 00:17:29,316 But about 1903, his wife dies. 277 00:17:29,317 --> 00:17:31,791 And after she left... 278 00:17:31,792 --> 00:17:35,228 He spiraled downward into this life of crime. 279 00:17:35,229 --> 00:17:38,421 He was involved in gambling, moonshine. 280 00:17:38,422 --> 00:17:41,015 He was involved in prostitution. 281 00:17:41,016 --> 00:17:45,386 This is Looney from sort of the height of his power. 282 00:17:45,387 --> 00:17:47,689 How powerful did this guy get? 283 00:17:47,690 --> 00:17:50,959 Well, he basically controlled the town. 284 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,844 People were very afraid of him. 285 00:17:52,845 --> 00:17:56,025 Basically if there was something going on in town that was illegal, 286 00:17:56,026 --> 00:17:58,169 Looney was involved with it. 287 00:17:58,170 --> 00:18:00,300 Okay. Now, I assume he was a violent man. 288 00:18:00,301 --> 00:18:02,485 Well, we know that a lot of people died, 289 00:18:02,486 --> 00:18:07,844 and Looney had people on his payroll who were, you know, basically paid hit men. 290 00:18:07,845 --> 00:18:10,696 Do we know if he ever buried any bodies on the property? 291 00:18:10,697 --> 00:18:13,598 Just the fact that he had, you know, this large, 292 00:18:13,599 --> 00:18:19,499 piece of land with nobody living around it, the opportunity existed. 293 00:18:21,872 --> 00:18:24,923 Allan: There's, like, a family out there... 294 00:18:24,924 --> 00:18:30,824 You know, like, a mother, a father, I think like two or three kids. 295 00:18:34,885 --> 00:18:39,505 But their father... he's kind of freaky... 296 00:18:39,523 --> 00:18:42,382 Kind of creepy-looking, too... 297 00:18:42,383 --> 00:18:45,443 Dressed all in black. 298 00:18:47,364 --> 00:18:51,984 I'm getting something about dirty dealings. 299 00:18:52,419 --> 00:18:54,081 What does he do? 300 00:18:54,082 --> 00:18:57,562 He's, like, burying bodies. 301 00:19:01,212 --> 00:19:05,048 Ruthart: So, it was about 1922 and Looney's empire started to fall apart. 302 00:19:05,049 --> 00:19:06,382 In what way? 303 00:19:06,383 --> 00:19:09,853 There had been a big split in Looney's organization. 304 00:19:09,854 --> 00:19:12,511 Some of his former lieutenants who'd formed their own gang 305 00:19:12,512 --> 00:19:14,891 basically set up a hit on Looney. 306 00:19:14,892 --> 00:19:17,435 They didn't get him, but they got his son. 307 00:19:17,436 --> 00:19:19,372 Was he there when the son got shot? 308 00:19:19,373 --> 00:19:21,287 - Yes. - He was? 309 00:19:21,288 --> 00:19:23,369 Basically they pulled up in front of this hotel. 310 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:27,203 Looney was going in to get some papers, and these other guys pull up... 311 00:19:27,204 --> 00:19:31,074 Or they jump out and open fire, and Looney runs for the hotel, 312 00:19:31,075 --> 00:19:33,409 goes up on the second floor, and starts firing back, 313 00:19:33,410 --> 00:19:37,408 but the son gets shot down on the sidewalk before he ever got to the door. 314 00:19:37,409 --> 00:19:41,969 And eventually dies later at the hospital. 315 00:19:50,294 --> 00:19:54,063 Uh-oh. I just got a nasty headache. 316 00:19:54,064 --> 00:19:58,324 And someone's yelling about a gunshot. 317 00:19:59,347 --> 00:20:02,638 I do feel like there's a hole in my head. 318 00:20:02,639 --> 00:20:04,679 [Bleep] 319 00:20:05,276 --> 00:20:07,436 [ Gasps ] 320 00:20:07,577 --> 00:20:11,247 There's, like, blood and then confusion. 321 00:20:11,248 --> 00:20:15,268 Like, I don't know if they lived. 322 00:20:15,719 --> 00:20:19,773 After his son was murdered, things just sort of fell apart. 323 00:20:19,774 --> 00:20:22,865 The city leaders started to shut down the gambling parlors and the 324 00:20:22,866 --> 00:20:26,312 hotels and the houses of prostitution and started arresting people. 325 00:20:26,313 --> 00:20:29,032 And when the whole house of cards fell in, 326 00:20:29,033 --> 00:20:32,105 the Feds went after him and he was arrested. 327 00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:35,738 And then subsequently, they filed murder charges against him 328 00:20:35,739 --> 00:20:38,874 for the murder of a local bar owner named Bill Gabel, 329 00:20:38,875 --> 00:20:43,255 who refused to pay him protection money. 330 00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:46,144 He was eventually found guilty. 331 00:20:46,145 --> 00:20:49,919 He ended up sentenced to 14 years for the murder and served 8 of it. 332 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,066 Where did he wind up when he came out of prison? 333 00:20:52,067 --> 00:20:54,414 Well, his daughter picks him up at the prison gate and, 334 00:20:54,415 --> 00:20:57,097 he goes to live with her and her husband in Texas. 335 00:20:57,098 --> 00:21:02,631 And he's there about eight years, and then he ends up dying from a lung condition. 336 00:21:02,632 --> 00:21:04,570 And how old was he when he died? 337 00:21:04,571 --> 00:21:07,511 He was 75 in 1942. 338 00:21:08,064 --> 00:21:09,984 Okay. 339 00:21:17,022 --> 00:21:19,191 This guy dressed all in black... 340 00:21:19,192 --> 00:21:23,512 He's probably, like, in his early 70s. 341 00:21:23,730 --> 00:21:27,266 He's fairly recent... he's fairly recently dead or something. 342 00:21:27,267 --> 00:21:30,201 But I keep seeing these bodies all over the place. 343 00:21:30,202 --> 00:21:34,841 He's, like, digging them and just throwing them in the ground, you know? 344 00:21:34,842 --> 00:21:37,362 [ Man laughs ] 345 00:21:37,548 --> 00:21:40,033 Nobody likes him. 346 00:21:40,034 --> 00:21:42,494 He was evil. 347 00:21:43,492 --> 00:21:48,352 He definitely was not involved in good things. 348 00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:04,681 Di Schiavi: I'm at the library to see if anyone else of interest 349 00:22:04,682 --> 00:22:08,017 owned my clients' property before John Looney. 350 00:22:08,018 --> 00:22:11,280 Digging through the archives, I discover a man named Sam Bowles, 351 00:22:11,281 --> 00:22:14,424 who lived on the property in the 1800s with his wife, Eliza. 352 00:22:14,425 --> 00:22:18,433 But what really caught my attention is the headline surrounding their marriage. 353 00:22:18,434 --> 00:22:22,571 Turns out Eliza went to the newspapers to make their troubles public. 354 00:22:22,572 --> 00:22:26,232 Claiming her husband beat her. 355 00:22:27,104 --> 00:22:29,273 I'm no expert on the 19th century, 356 00:22:29,274 --> 00:22:32,176 but I don't think it was real common for women to go to the newspaper, 357 00:22:32,177 --> 00:22:34,347 claiming their husbands abused them. 358 00:22:34,348 --> 00:22:36,506 I'm on my way to meet with a local historian 359 00:22:36,507 --> 00:22:41,487 who promises to tell me the rest of the story. 360 00:22:47,124 --> 00:22:50,196 I thought it strange that in 1886, a woman would 361 00:22:50,197 --> 00:22:52,329 actually go to the paper about domestic violence. 362 00:22:52,330 --> 00:22:53,961 That wasn't common back then, was it? 363 00:22:53,962 --> 00:22:55,961 - No, absolutely not. - Okay. 364 00:22:55,962 --> 00:22:57,890 Domestic violence was a taboo subject back then. 365 00:22:57,891 --> 00:22:59,932 You typically didn't read about it in the newspaper, 366 00:22:59,933 --> 00:23:02,124 and you wouldn't have talked to your family about it. 367 00:23:02,125 --> 00:23:05,938 Now, Bobbi, you mentioned on the phone that there was a little bit more to the story. 368 00:23:05,939 --> 00:23:11,839 One week after that was published in the newspaper, Eliza died of a stroke. 369 00:23:13,580 --> 00:23:14,847 Do you know if she was sick? 370 00:23:14,848 --> 00:23:17,540 No, she wasn't. It was a sudden death. 371 00:23:17,541 --> 00:23:19,771 Okay. Did they have any children, the two of them? 372 00:23:19,772 --> 00:23:24,512 Yes, they actually had one daughter, Telitha. 373 00:23:26,626 --> 00:23:29,088 She was born in 1861. 374 00:23:29,089 --> 00:23:31,497 Okay, now, what kind of guy was Samuel? 375 00:23:31,498 --> 00:23:33,911 He was a very prominent man in his community. 376 00:23:33,912 --> 00:23:38,282 He actually had built them a school, a church, and a cemetery for its citizens. 377 00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:40,507 So, Bobbi, what ended up happening with this guy? 378 00:23:40,508 --> 00:23:43,082 He actually died in 1893. 379 00:23:43,083 --> 00:23:46,192 And Telitha inherited his estate. 380 00:23:46,193 --> 00:23:48,000 She sold it off piece by piece, 381 00:23:48,001 --> 00:23:53,461 and eventually the last piece was sold to John Looney. 382 00:23:55,355 --> 00:23:58,895 Allan: I'm seeing a female. 383 00:24:01,027 --> 00:24:04,747 She is kind of prissy, uppity. 384 00:24:05,031 --> 00:24:09,626 She's wearing a very lacy dress, comes all the way up. 385 00:24:09,627 --> 00:24:15,087 I think that her parents might have died pretty young. 386 00:24:18,494 --> 00:24:23,675 And she's disgusted by the people she's surrounded by. 387 00:24:23,676 --> 00:24:26,195 This house is crawling with dead people. 388 00:24:26,196 --> 00:24:30,833 And what has me disturbed is their attraction to the children's rooms. 389 00:24:30,834 --> 00:24:33,626 She's just very... 390 00:24:33,627 --> 00:24:35,787 Advanced. 391 00:24:38,381 --> 00:24:41,734 Di Schiavi: During my research, I also discovered that before Samuel Bowles, 392 00:24:41,735 --> 00:24:46,896 Native Americans lived all over what's now my clients' property. 393 00:24:46,897 --> 00:24:49,555 In this part of the country, that's no big surprise. 394 00:24:49,556 --> 00:24:52,878 But when I called the local Curator of the Native American museum, 395 00:24:52,879 --> 00:24:58,779 she said that what went down there may be helpful to my case. 396 00:25:05,003 --> 00:25:07,021 So, I understand the property I'm investigating 397 00:25:07,022 --> 00:25:08,661 used to be Native American territory? 398 00:25:08,662 --> 00:25:11,149 - That's correct. - Okay. What can you tell me about it? 399 00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:16,019 Well, the last tribe of Indians to inhabit that area were the Sauk Nation of Indians, 400 00:25:16,020 --> 00:25:20,717 and they were here from about 1735 and was about 5,000 people. 401 00:25:20,718 --> 00:25:22,908 Okay, so, what happened with the Indians there? 402 00:25:22,909 --> 00:25:26,879 They lost their land to the American government in 1804, 403 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,430 but only about two-thirds of the tribe was willing to go. 404 00:25:30,431 --> 00:25:34,653 About one-third of the tribe, that was led by the warrior Black Hawk. 405 00:25:34,654 --> 00:25:37,456 Refused to leave the land of their ancestors. 406 00:25:37,457 --> 00:25:42,077 Black Hawk said, I'll die before I leave. 407 00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:47,933 But one of their spokesmen was a man named Keokuk... 408 00:25:47,934 --> 00:25:52,254 Who was very friendly to the Americans. 409 00:25:52,331 --> 00:25:55,540 He was able to convince his own people, 410 00:25:55,541 --> 00:25:58,190 that there was no point in fighting the American government 411 00:25:58,191 --> 00:26:00,846 and it was better to just move as they were told. 412 00:26:00,847 --> 00:26:03,851 What about the people that didn't support him, how did they feel about him? 413 00:26:03,852 --> 00:26:06,419 Well, they felt that he was a coward... 414 00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:08,854 A traitor to their nation. 415 00:26:08,855 --> 00:26:12,966 Black Hawk felt nothing but disdain for him. 416 00:26:12,967 --> 00:26:17,763 So, the people that sided with Keokuk, did they prosper with the deal he made? 417 00:26:17,764 --> 00:26:20,702 Well, no, they were removed over into Iowa... 418 00:26:20,703 --> 00:26:23,637 And told that they could live there forever. 419 00:26:23,638 --> 00:26:27,439 But within 10 years of this promise, they're gone. 420 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,240 - They lost everything? - They lost everything. 421 00:26:34,199 --> 00:26:39,815 I'm seeing this leader guy again, who's wearing a cloak. 422 00:26:39,816 --> 00:26:45,160 And he says, they're still our territories and we still watch over them. 423 00:26:45,161 --> 00:26:48,191 But when he was alive, he screwed up. 424 00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:51,493 He wasn't doing his job. 425 00:26:51,494 --> 00:26:54,111 He says that everybody who's come since 426 00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:58,834 has just [Bleep] everything up and destroyed it. 427 00:26:58,835 --> 00:27:03,094 He feels justified as far as wreaking havoc on people. 428 00:27:03,095 --> 00:27:04,935 What does he do? 429 00:27:04,936 --> 00:27:10,836 Basically whatever needs to be done, but he sends his people in to do it. 430 00:27:13,405 --> 00:27:14,888 What do you mean? 431 00:27:14,889 --> 00:27:19,269 The people that he puts in the trees... 432 00:27:19,692 --> 00:27:21,941 Were from his time... 433 00:27:21,942 --> 00:27:24,762 Like 17-something. 434 00:27:27,601 --> 00:27:31,673 When he sends people into the house... 435 00:27:31,674 --> 00:27:34,794 Why is he doing that? 436 00:27:36,677 --> 00:27:41,657 That's him trying to get rid of this building. 437 00:28:06,151 --> 00:28:09,873 Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations. 438 00:28:09,874 --> 00:28:15,774 We're ready to reveal our findings to each other and our clients for the first time. 439 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:18,435 Mike and Melissa have been here about five years. 440 00:28:18,436 --> 00:28:21,991 Melissa's had experiences from the minute they came here. 441 00:28:21,992 --> 00:28:23,835 They have two beautiful children, 442 00:28:23,836 --> 00:28:26,738 and one of their kids is having a very tough time here. 443 00:28:26,739 --> 00:28:30,347 Waking up in the middle of the night, screaming, crying. She's afraid to be here. 444 00:28:30,348 --> 00:28:34,161 So they're concerned if their kids can live here in a safe environment, 445 00:28:34,162 --> 00:28:36,810 and that's why they called us in. 446 00:28:36,811 --> 00:28:39,946 With that, I'm gonna have Amy start to talk about her walk. 447 00:28:39,947 --> 00:28:42,417 Allan: I immediately get the sense that someone here 448 00:28:42,418 --> 00:28:45,219 is contributing to what's happening in this house. 449 00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:49,245 But I can also tell they're not emotionally ready to hear it yet. 450 00:28:49,246 --> 00:28:52,579 One of the first people that I encountered was a male. 451 00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:55,119 He's not a good guy. 452 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,697 He was dressed all in black. 453 00:28:56,698 --> 00:28:59,599 I did get that while he was alive, he was particularly evil. 454 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,770 And he definitely was not involved in anything good. 455 00:29:03,771 --> 00:29:06,072 Who do you guys think it sounds like? 456 00:29:06,073 --> 00:29:07,996 - John Looney. - John Looney? 457 00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:13,152 John Looney was a gangster that owned this property back in the 1920s. 458 00:29:13,153 --> 00:29:17,450 He was involved in everything... prostitution, gambling, bootlegging. 459 00:29:17,451 --> 00:29:21,289 He was supposedly very ruthless... got convicted of murder. 460 00:29:21,290 --> 00:29:25,292 He was suspected in many, many more deaths. 461 00:29:25,293 --> 00:29:28,928 There's pictures of him here. 462 00:29:28,929 --> 00:29:31,269 Interesting. 463 00:29:38,272 --> 00:29:43,169 I think his reason for buying the property up here was because it was perfect for... 464 00:29:43,170 --> 00:29:46,145 - Burying bodies... great. - Burying bodies. 465 00:29:46,146 --> 00:29:48,674 Now, you think the guy you saw was him? 466 00:29:48,675 --> 00:29:51,735 Looks like him, yeah. 467 00:29:54,255 --> 00:29:56,221 What else did you see? 468 00:29:56,222 --> 00:30:01,528 Well, then I saw something out back which was pretty freaky. 469 00:30:01,529 --> 00:30:04,747 Under the trees are all these people. 470 00:30:04,748 --> 00:30:09,488 And all of them used to live on this land. 471 00:30:09,637 --> 00:30:12,710 And their leader was this man who came up. 472 00:30:12,711 --> 00:30:16,610 He walked up, and he was wearing a dark cloak. 473 00:30:16,611 --> 00:30:22,511 And I got that this guy was from a very long time ago, like 1700s. 474 00:30:22,757 --> 00:30:28,035 He feels that his job was to be in charge of a large territory. 475 00:30:28,036 --> 00:30:31,847 And he screwed up. He just made a big mistake. 476 00:30:31,848 --> 00:30:34,464 And now that he's dead he, 477 00:30:34,465 --> 00:30:38,626 does an incredible job of watching his territories... 478 00:30:38,627 --> 00:30:41,447 Psychotically too well. 479 00:30:41,448 --> 00:30:42,856 It's interesting you say that. 480 00:30:42,857 --> 00:30:47,798 There was a tribe of Indians called the Sauk Nation that inhabited your land. 481 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:50,877 There was an Indian by the name of Keokuk. 482 00:30:50,878 --> 00:30:53,925 And when the white men came, he kind of appeased them... 483 00:30:53,926 --> 00:30:56,528 And kind of played both sides of the coin. 484 00:30:56,529 --> 00:31:02,429 He basically sold out the whole Indian nation here and had them displaced. 485 00:31:02,743 --> 00:31:05,383 This is Keokuk. 486 00:31:08,262 --> 00:31:13,374 Even to this day, that tribe feels he sold the whole tribe out. 487 00:31:13,375 --> 00:31:19,275 Well, it kind of makes sense, because what this person wants is the house to be gone. 488 00:31:21,418 --> 00:31:25,033 He said he's not the only one who watches this territory. 489 00:31:25,034 --> 00:31:28,782 He'll send other people to, like, take care of business. 490 00:31:28,783 --> 00:31:31,194 Now, did you see any of those people inside this house? 491 00:31:31,195 --> 00:31:34,400 There was a lot of them in The Master Bedroom. 492 00:31:34,401 --> 00:31:38,591 On the floor, around the bed basically. 493 00:31:38,592 --> 00:31:40,092 Some of them can't walk. 494 00:31:40,093 --> 00:31:45,264 Some of them can only crawl or, like, pull themselves. 495 00:31:45,265 --> 00:31:47,970 Tell Amy about Madison, what she saw. 496 00:31:47,971 --> 00:31:50,014 Melissa: She was sleeping with me in bed one night. 497 00:31:50,015 --> 00:31:53,973 She said she didn't want to go to sleep because of the man under the bed. 498 00:31:53,974 --> 00:31:56,176 And I said, well, there's no man under the bed. 499 00:31:56,177 --> 00:31:59,740 And she goes, yes, mommy, he's under there. 500 00:31:59,741 --> 00:32:02,267 And then she got down and looked under the bed, 501 00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:04,364 and I said, see, there's no one under there. 502 00:32:04,365 --> 00:32:07,851 She started pointing, and she said, mommy, he's right there. 503 00:32:07,852 --> 00:32:11,053 That thing with the bed... you had told me about you were laying in bed alone. 504 00:32:11,054 --> 00:32:13,000 - Mm-hmm. - Tell Amy about that, too. 505 00:32:13,001 --> 00:32:17,059 Yeah, I had just gotten into bed, and I felt somebody sit down on the bed, 506 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:20,196 so I turned to look and there's nothing there. 507 00:32:20,197 --> 00:32:24,042 And then I felt it... whatever it was... get up off the bed. 508 00:32:24,043 --> 00:32:26,845 Would that have been what you were talking about in The Master Bedroom? 509 00:32:26,846 --> 00:32:29,813 - Doing that to the bed? - Um, probably not. 510 00:32:29,814 --> 00:32:32,814 That's probably him. 511 00:32:35,813 --> 00:32:39,053 I just got goose bumps. 512 00:32:40,736 --> 00:32:42,766 So, what else is going on? 513 00:32:42,767 --> 00:32:45,812 Then I went down to the basement. 514 00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:49,039 And uh, I saw some of the specific dead people 515 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,643 that I think were sent to destroy your house. 516 00:32:53,644 --> 00:32:58,014 They're all naked, they're all in different levels of decomposition. 517 00:32:58,015 --> 00:33:00,349 And I think two of them want help. 518 00:33:00,350 --> 00:33:04,487 I actually saw somebody doing laundry, a female. 519 00:33:04,488 --> 00:33:09,559 This was a living person, and one of them was crawling on the floor. 520 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,576 And was actually trying to grab the person's pant leg. 521 00:33:13,577 --> 00:33:17,774 Yeah, there's something about that laundry room. 522 00:33:17,775 --> 00:33:21,330 I feel like I'm always being watched. 523 00:33:21,331 --> 00:33:24,734 Nathan had another incident in the basement here, going up the stairs. 524 00:33:24,735 --> 00:33:26,309 Tell Amy about that. 525 00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:30,726 He was walking up the stairs, and then he felt a little tug on the back of his shirt. 526 00:33:30,727 --> 00:33:32,223 Okay. Interesting. 527 00:33:32,224 --> 00:33:34,985 And do you think this would be one of these people that tugged on him? 528 00:33:34,986 --> 00:33:36,846 Yes. 529 00:33:37,638 --> 00:33:39,923 Let me ask you something. You said you saw a living woman? 530 00:33:39,924 --> 00:33:42,663 - That's what you saw? - Mm-hmm. Well, I sketched it. 531 00:33:42,664 --> 00:33:45,148 - You sketched that scene you saw? - Yes. 532 00:33:45,149 --> 00:33:47,549 She's gray. 533 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,660 Her hair is all kind of wet. 534 00:33:52,662 --> 00:33:56,742 Her legs are kind of bent sideways. 535 00:34:03,705 --> 00:34:06,645 Wow. That's creepy. 536 00:34:09,073 --> 00:34:10,933 Wow. 537 00:34:18,796 --> 00:34:21,052 - That's pretty scary. - It's sad. 538 00:34:21,053 --> 00:34:25,313 It's just so uneasy for me in there. 539 00:34:27,432 --> 00:34:32,592 Maybe this person is reaching out to me for help. 540 00:34:33,085 --> 00:34:35,945 Why would they be reaching out to Melissa for help? 541 00:34:35,946 --> 00:34:39,047 I did get that there was someone here who brings in the dead. 542 00:34:39,048 --> 00:34:42,059 There is a female who they think is a medium here. 543 00:34:42,060 --> 00:34:47,220 So, when you are a medium, dead people are attracted to you who want help. 544 00:34:47,221 --> 00:34:51,523 And I did get that this individual doesn't quite know what to do with this ability. 545 00:34:51,524 --> 00:34:55,353 There is a slight unhealthy attraction to death. 546 00:34:55,354 --> 00:34:57,647 Like an obsession with it. 547 00:34:57,648 --> 00:35:01,746 It's dangerous because there's a fine line there. 548 00:35:01,747 --> 00:35:07,267 And a lot of the dead here can inadvertently harm you. 549 00:35:25,421 --> 00:35:31,026 Allan: I did get that there was someone here who brings in the dead. 550 00:35:31,027 --> 00:35:36,927 There is a slight unhealthy attraction to death, like an obsession with it. 551 00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:44,050 It's dangerous, and a lot of the dead here can inadvertently harm you. 552 00:35:46,626 --> 00:35:49,711 Well, when I first started interviewing Melissa, 553 00:35:49,712 --> 00:35:54,067 she had told me that she's had experiences since she was a kid. 554 00:35:54,068 --> 00:35:56,954 I always felt like I had had psychic abilities, 555 00:35:56,955 --> 00:36:01,752 but I had never really been afraid of my experiences. 556 00:36:01,753 --> 00:36:02,785 Mm-hmm. 557 00:36:02,786 --> 00:36:06,899 Now that my daughter had been really, really frightened. 558 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:09,364 I was like, okay, there's something going on, 559 00:36:09,365 --> 00:36:12,342 and we need to get this taken care of. 560 00:36:12,343 --> 00:36:14,904 Now, you believe this stuff gets passed down through generations. 561 00:36:14,905 --> 00:36:16,360 Oh, absolutely, yeah. 562 00:36:16,361 --> 00:36:21,235 And the other thing was getting that there was a child who's extremely open here. 563 00:36:21,236 --> 00:36:26,396 And very well developed, which is very interesting. 564 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:32,377 When I went into their bedroom, the dead lined up and greeted me. 565 00:36:32,378 --> 00:36:34,322 It's a type of introduction. 566 00:36:34,323 --> 00:36:39,585 Usually this is, like, for, you know, really advanced mediums. 567 00:36:39,586 --> 00:36:43,065 - So I was, like, shocked. - And you saw this in Nathan's room? 568 00:36:43,066 --> 00:36:46,070 I don't know. It had the bunk beds, I think. 569 00:36:46,071 --> 00:36:49,611 Yeah, that's Nathan's room. 570 00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:51,942 Allan: I feel like Mike and Melissa have always known, 571 00:36:51,943 --> 00:36:54,042 that something wasn't right in their home. 572 00:36:54,043 --> 00:36:57,011 They've just been too afraid to admit it to each other. 573 00:36:57,012 --> 00:36:59,831 I think your daughter has something going on, too. 574 00:36:59,832 --> 00:37:05,592 But right now, he is way more advanced than your daughter. 575 00:37:06,258 --> 00:37:10,878 It makes sense, with him not being afraid. 576 00:37:11,970 --> 00:37:14,162 This is Nathan. 577 00:37:14,163 --> 00:37:16,443 Aw. Cutie! 578 00:37:17,445 --> 00:37:21,705 Has anything traumatic happened to him? 579 00:37:23,573 --> 00:37:25,607 Nathan was about 2 years old. 580 00:37:25,608 --> 00:37:29,508 We had another son, named Noah... 581 00:37:29,633 --> 00:37:30,941 Okay. 582 00:37:30,942 --> 00:37:35,683 And he actually passed away shortly after birth. 583 00:37:35,684 --> 00:37:37,738 I have Noah's picture. Can I show that to Amy? 584 00:37:37,739 --> 00:37:40,555 - Is that all right? - Sure. 585 00:37:40,556 --> 00:37:42,268 This is right before he passed. 586 00:37:42,269 --> 00:37:44,069 Aw. 587 00:37:49,265 --> 00:37:52,567 We knew something was wrong halfway through the pregnancy. 588 00:37:52,568 --> 00:37:55,148 So, you guys were preparing for this before, even. 589 00:37:55,149 --> 00:37:57,571 I never prepared for it. 590 00:37:57,572 --> 00:38:01,952 I didn't accept that he wouldn't live. 591 00:38:08,351 --> 00:38:11,520 Now that I know about Noah, it all makes sense to me. 592 00:38:11,521 --> 00:38:17,421 So, the last thing was a little bit of poltergeist going on here. 593 00:38:17,627 --> 00:38:19,894 I felt things were sliding across the floor. 594 00:38:19,895 --> 00:38:24,334 I felt that the adult medium won't let go, 595 00:38:24,335 --> 00:38:26,468 specifically to the family and friends. 596 00:38:26,469 --> 00:38:30,438 And this is kind of something that is being held inside. 597 00:38:30,439 --> 00:38:34,363 And is coming out in this manner. 598 00:38:34,364 --> 00:38:37,672 And I think this person has some anger. 599 00:38:37,673 --> 00:38:41,873 And it's not being properly released. 600 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,220 That sound like you? 601 00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:58,800 Sorry. 602 00:38:58,801 --> 00:39:01,141 It's okay. 603 00:39:03,794 --> 00:39:07,707 I've had other people tell me that... 604 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:11,968 I haven't grieved properly for Noah... 605 00:39:12,228 --> 00:39:14,448 [Sniffles] 606 00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:17,860 So that makes sense. 607 00:39:19,088 --> 00:39:22,151 I can't think of um... 608 00:39:22,152 --> 00:39:26,232 Anything I've noticed, like, moving. 609 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,008 The one thing that I've found unexplainable in this house 610 00:39:31,009 --> 00:39:33,186 since I've been living here is a, 611 00:39:33,187 --> 00:39:36,762 shopping cart that Madison has in her room, a little toy shopping cart. 612 00:39:36,763 --> 00:39:41,513 It was parallel to her bed at one point, full of toys, when she was younger. 613 00:39:41,514 --> 00:39:44,008 And she woke up screaming. I came into her room, and it was 614 00:39:44,009 --> 00:39:45,835 - turned and in the middle of the room. - Hmm. 615 00:39:45,836 --> 00:39:47,716 No way she could've pushed it there... 616 00:39:47,717 --> 00:39:48,761 Mm-hmm. 617 00:39:48,762 --> 00:39:51,906 And so I put it back, and then she woke up screaming about a half-hour later, 618 00:39:51,907 --> 00:39:54,188 and it was, again, turned and in the middle of the room. 619 00:39:54,189 --> 00:39:57,976 Interesting. That's a pretty big movement. 620 00:39:57,977 --> 00:40:00,278 Di Schiavi: Could that be from the poltergeist? 621 00:40:00,279 --> 00:40:02,139 Yes. 622 00:40:11,046 --> 00:40:13,213 Melissa, I know tonight was pretty rough. 623 00:40:13,214 --> 00:40:17,376 You heard a lot of things that you probably didn't want to hear. 624 00:40:17,377 --> 00:40:19,720 But the big question is your children. 625 00:40:19,721 --> 00:40:22,282 - Right. - Is it safe for them to be raised here? 626 00:40:22,283 --> 00:40:27,083 With that, I'm gonna turn that over to Amy. 627 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:35,992 You have a lot of dead around this location. 628 00:40:35,993 --> 00:40:39,165 So the first thing you need to do is grief counseling. 629 00:40:39,166 --> 00:40:41,401 This is going to allow you to let go of the dead 630 00:40:41,402 --> 00:40:44,837 and to process emotions in a beneficial way. 631 00:40:44,838 --> 00:40:48,091 This will also help you get rid of the poltergeist. 632 00:40:48,092 --> 00:40:52,099 For Nathan, something he should do every night before he goes to bed, 633 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:54,539 is to have him state that, 634 00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:59,124 he only allows the good dead and guides to stand by him and help him. 635 00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:01,107 He has that power, 636 00:41:01,108 --> 00:41:06,327 and the good guides and the good dead are going to be pushing the bad out, as well. 637 00:41:06,328 --> 00:41:10,948 - Will that get Looney out of here? - Yes. 638 00:41:12,872 --> 00:41:16,735 The last thing is you can go to the tribe... 639 00:41:16,736 --> 00:41:22,636 That Keokuk is from, and ask them to do a ceremony in your backyard. 640 00:41:23,035 --> 00:41:28,315 To release him and the people that he's imprisoned. 641 00:41:28,716 --> 00:41:30,357 I feel really good about it. 642 00:41:30,358 --> 00:41:34,331 I'm anxious to start helping Nathan and... 643 00:41:34,332 --> 00:41:38,352 Get rid of these negative energies. 644 00:41:40,294 --> 00:41:42,925 We have a game plan now. For me, I feel like a puzzle has 645 00:41:42,926 --> 00:41:45,131 been put together in front of me, to be honest with you. 646 00:41:45,132 --> 00:41:46,800 But are you gonna follow Amy's advice? 647 00:41:46,801 --> 00:41:48,134 Definitely. Yeah. 648 00:41:48,135 --> 00:41:50,415 Absolutely. 649 00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:54,607 Allan: Melissa has a lot of work ahead of her 650 00:41:54,608 --> 00:41:57,958 to rid her property of the evil that resides here. 651 00:41:57,959 --> 00:42:01,383 But once she confronts her past and follows my advice. 652 00:42:01,384 --> 00:42:05,017 I'm confident that her family will be able to live in peace. 653 00:42:05,018 --> 00:42:06,886 [ Breath exhales ] 654 00:42:06,887 --> 00:42:09,587 [ Wind whistles ] 655 00:42:09,612 --> 00:42:15,512 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. Www.Addic7ed.Com. 656 00:42:15,562 --> 00:42:20,112 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 56069

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