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Subs created by: David Coleman.
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He's big, and he is powerful.
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He knows that there's people here.
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I was immediately freaked out.
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It is mean.
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Pure hatred and anger.
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It scared the living crap out of me.
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It has bad intentions.
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He was diagnosed with psychosis.
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- That's no way to live.
- No.
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- Are they dangerous?
- Yes, they are.
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They're cursed.
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They're being watched.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This thing likes death.
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I see dead people.
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This thing's, like, a monster.
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I speak to dead people.
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And he's pissed off now.
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And they speak to me.
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His head was cracked.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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This guy was murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide Detective.
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I cannot help you unless
I know the whole story.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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You saw her?
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Why would you stay here?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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[ Echoing ] Stop it.
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We uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
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Woman: I want to know the truth.
I want to know what's happening.
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Or time to get out.
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[ Crying ] I told you there
were ghosts in this house.
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Di Schiavi: Amy and I work on the same
case, but from two separate perspectives.
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I dig into the property's past,
bringing its dark secrets to light.
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While Amy communicates with the dead.
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When we're finished, we present our
findings to the clients and each other.
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I'm in Egg Harbor, New Jersey,
just outside of Atlantic City.
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We were called in by a woman named Jessee.
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She tells me her husband,
who's usually a tough guy,
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is terrified to go to
certain parts of the house.
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Even worse, her three small children
are starting to be affected.
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I'm hoping we can help
this young family out.
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Matt: Before Amy arrives, I need to remove
anything that could influence her findings.
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And this house is filled with photos
of a family and their young children.
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Once these items are cleared, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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I felt, like, this huge...
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Being behind me.
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And I thought it was a big shadow person.
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But when I looked, I knew
that it was just a guy.
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And um, he...
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Wants to slit my throat.
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Di Schiavi: All right,
Jess, so, when we spoke,
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you said the whole family's
having issues here.
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- Right.
- Tell me about what's going on.
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The kids are starting to see things...
shadow figures.
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My husband is completely freaked out.
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And it's just escalating.
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Are you getting affected by anything here?
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Yes. I see it more than most.
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You do? When you first
moved in, did you start
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experiencing stuff, or is
this happening later on?
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- It was immediately.
- Why did you guys stay?
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We couldn't financially afford to leave.
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I had put my life savings into the deposit,
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and then we just couldn't go anywhere else.
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Now, the kids... how old are they?
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- 6, 4, and 2.
- What's going on with them?
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My son... he will not go into
his room for any reason.
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He doesn't sleep in there, nothing.
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- Is he sleeping with you guys?
- Yes.
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Okay, does he ever mention why he
doesn't want to stay in his room?
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He just says he doesn't like it. Like,
there's just someone in there with him.
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What about the other kids?
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My daughter... she's been sick for
over two years, and nobody knows why.
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Doctors didn't give you a reason?
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They tested her from leukemia to
everything, and nothing ever came back...
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No ear infection, no, like,
crazy stomach thing, nothing.
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It's heartbreaking, and that's
why we called you guys...
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Because it's escalated to the point to
where now my kids are being affected.
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[ Door creaks ]
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Allan: Uh, there's a sickness here.
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Something bad.
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If there's gonna be anywhere where
there's a sickness, it would be here.
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I don't like it at all.
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It's from the stuff...
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Outside.
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It lingers here. It lingers here.
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There's been this thing that has...
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Um, always been around.
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It's not just this house.
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It follows them.
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Everywhere.
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Jessee: Three months after
we bought the house,
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I had a dream that there was
a kid standing in my closet.
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I followed him out of the bedroom, through
the living room, into the kitchen.
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He stopped at the basement
door, opened the door.
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Went like this for me to
follow him, so I did.
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I followed him down the first
two steps onto the landing.
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I stopped at the landing in my dream.
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I watched him walk the rest of the
steps and turn into the basement.
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Okay.
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I woke up from my dream. I
was standing on the landing.
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Like, I physically got out of the bed
and followed this kid in my sleep.
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Were you on medication at
the time for anything?
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No. Nothing.
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- Were you drinking that night?
- No.
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There's nothing that would
have made you do that.
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Nothing at all.
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Anything else in here?
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I wake up because I hear people talking.
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- They start out in my dream.
- Okay.
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And then I wake up, and I still hear them.
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So then I'll get up to go
investigate, and there's no one here.
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It's got to be tough for
you to sleep in here.
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Yes.
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And there was a time where, for a
straight year, I slept on the couch.
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- That's no way to live.
- No.
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Anderson: What are you looking at?
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They kind of look like
little, tiny jellyfishes.
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With, like, the long tentacles.
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They're on the ceiling.
They're always moving.
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They're always around.
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They're trying to organize
themselves to become a being.
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What sort of things can they do to people?
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They are aggravating.
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They would cause stress,
a sense of unease uh...
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Insomnia.
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- Are they dangerous?
- Yes, they are.
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This is the most hated room
in the house by everybody.
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Okay, so what's going on down here?
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My son and I were walking down the stairs.
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I turned to him like two
stairs from the bottom,
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and right past this doorway, a
very large, very black figure
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walked right past the door very slowly,
blacked out the light bulb completely.
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Then it kept walking and disappeared.
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Nobody else was down here, it
was just you and your son?
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- Just me and him.
- The bulb couldn't be faulty...
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- Be loose or anything like that?
- No.
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Okay, what did you do?
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My son immediately turned
around and hauled up
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the stairs and went
screaming to his father.
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I was immediately, like, freaked
out, and I ran up the steps.
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I don't ever like to have my
back to the basement, ever.
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This is a thing that's been
following these people forever.
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It is mean, and it has bad intentions.
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There's some kind of weird
revenge thing going on here.
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The man who wanted to slit my
throat will not leave me alone.
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I think he hates women and is
furious that I'm in his space.
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It just keeps feeling like I'm
getting punched in the stomach.
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This guy, he is...
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Attached to women and causes
problems in their lives.
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- Like what?
- Torments.
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Scare them. I think he tries to kill them.
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Allan: It just keeps feeling like
I'm getting punched in the stomach.
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The punching in the stomach is this male...
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Who, initially, I thought
was a shadow person.
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I got to get away from this guy.
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The guy from inside...
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He is being kind of belligerent.
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It's, like, pounding on me.
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It's like, get the [Bleep] out.
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Like, get out of here. Get out of here.
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Get out of here. Get out of here.
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He's, like, totally wiping me.
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What do you mean?
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Sometimes you meet the ones who really
don't want to talk, and they'll just...
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And then you, like, try
to get into their minds,
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and then they'll just wipe you,
like it's just this blank slate.
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Like there's nothing.
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That hasn't happened in a long time.
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So Fred, I was talking to your wife, Jess,
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and she was telling me what
was going on in the house.
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Your daughter having some ailments.
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We didn't know what it was. I don't
really talk about it that much.
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It was just a rough point in our lives.
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One of the other situations is my son.
He never sleeps in his own room.
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I don't want him to have a bad
feeling at that young of age.
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I mean, that's got to be tough for you as
a father knowing that you can't fix it.
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That's why we need your help.
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Can you show me some places in the house
where you've been experiencing things?
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Absolutely.
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We were coming back from a
barbecue, walking up to the house.
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We came up on the front porch,
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and I seen a shadowy figure
appear through the curtain.
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Okay.
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I seen the shoulders, the head, the
outline of the whole entire body.
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- It scared the living crap out of me.
- Now, you don't look like you scare easy.
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But that scared you.
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It scared me enough where
I had to call my 4'9 wife
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to come up to the front porch
and go inside the house.
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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Is this the first time you
saw something like that?
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No.
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In the kitchen, I just happened to see
a shadowy figure, again, peer over.
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He's looking at me. I'm looking at him.
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I yell at my wife thinking it's
my wife playing a joke on me.
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She comes out of the bedroom
looking flustered as could be.
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I was like, what are you doing? She's
like, I'm putting the kids to bed.
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So you've seen this thing two times.
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Actually, two nights ago, I had a dream.
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And in that dream, in the corner of the
bedroom, there was a black shadowy figure.
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It almost looked like the Grim Reaper.
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And it just kind of went for me,
and I woke up at the same time.
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I had the chills from head to toe.
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Allan: Okay, so this guy is pissed.
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Pure hatred and anger.
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The shadowy figure that wiped my mind
doesn't want me to know anything about him.
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But I've been fighting
off his other attempts,
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and I'm starting to see
what's making him so angry.
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He's mad because he feels like
he was ripped off and betrayed.
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And the crawly things in the room...
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I know he wants them to be
here, and he wants them to...
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Come together and form a being.
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Anderson: Are you talking about
the jellyfish creatures?
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Yes.
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Sometimes I gather information that's so
bizarre I can hardly believe it myself.
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But I just have to rely on what I see and
feel and hope it'll make sense later.
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And they're not good, these things.
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They're not.
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He's not.
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How you feeling that you're here?
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I just want to get out. I just want to
leave, I just don't like being down here.
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There's always a feeling of somebody
just behind you looking at you.
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You have that feeling you're being watched.
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Talking to your wife about the basement.
She talked about the incident between...
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Her and your son, what they saw down here.
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I really didn't, you know,
believe it at the time.
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I don't know, but until I actually
physically had to come down here,
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then I could understand.
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Plus it bothers me that
my son has to go through
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- what we're going through as grown adults.
- Right.
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I want him to have a childhood and be a
child, I don't want him to worry about...
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Is there something in his bedroom?
Is there something in this basement?
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You know what? Let's get out
of here, you've been...
242
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Nice enough to come down. I appreciate it.
243
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I think this is his space.
244
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Oh, that [Bleep] will not
come and talk to me.
245
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He's a [Bleep] coward.
246
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Such a coward.
247
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But he's big, and he is
powerful, so it's weird.
248
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Like, he's such a [Bleep] baby. Like,
he won't talk to me or anything.
249
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He wants to be brutal about it.
250
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I think he's very capable of
inflicting pain on people.
251
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He can touch and, you know,
252
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physically do anything he wants
to a person, pretty much.
253
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Do you have any idea why,
exactly, he's doing this?
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Mm, because he made a
commitment to uh, wreak havoc.
255
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So he just wants to [Bleep] kill.
256
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And I think he wants to
do it to somebody here.
257
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Di Schiavi: I made some calls, and
I was able to track down a woman
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who used to own the
property I'm investigating.
259
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She told me that she grew up
in Fred and Jessee's house,
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but that her time there was
marked with violence and tragedy.
261
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Di Schiavi: So, Linda, I understand you
grew up in the house I'm investigating.
262
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Linda: Yes. It was my mother and my
father and my brother, Louis, and myself.
263
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Okay.
264
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Now, you had mentioned on the
phone there was some tragedy
265
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at home when you were living
there, what happened?
266
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My brother had died. I
have a picture of him.
267
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He had committed suicide.
He had hung himself...
268
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- In the basement.
- In the house?
269
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- Yes.
- Aw, geez.
270
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- How old was he?
- Fourteen.
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It was 1970.
272
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Who found him?
273
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My mother went down the basement,
and she found him there.
274
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And she yelled and asked me
to bring a knife down...
275
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Because she had to cut him down.
276
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Oh, geez.
277
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- Did he ever mention any problems to you?
- No.
278
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He was a good kid. He never got
in any trouble or anything.
279
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Okay now, did your parents stay there?
280
00:17:19,386 --> 00:17:25,146
Yeah, but in '92, my mother
died of a rare blood disease.
281
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How did your father deal with that?
282
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I lost him the day my mother died.
283
00:17:35,722 --> 00:17:39,802
After that, everything went downhill.
284
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He said he was hearing voices and
there was people in his house.
285
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He was diagnosed with psychosis.
286
00:17:51,923 --> 00:17:54,994
- When your father died, how old was he?
- 87.
287
00:17:54,995 --> 00:17:56,518
- 87.
- Mm-hmm.
288
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He was like an empty shell. That's
how I always described him.
289
00:18:00,415 --> 00:18:03,495
He was there physically, but
the man I knew he just...
290
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He wasn't there.
291
00:18:10,846 --> 00:18:16,746
Allan: There is, like, this old
man that's bopping around, too.
292
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I think this old man is,
like, in his death state.
293
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And he wanders mostly...
294
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Uh, he's confused.
295
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He's old. He's like 80.
296
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Okay.
297
00:18:37,405 --> 00:18:40,930
He does have moments of clarity where...
298
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He knows that there's people here.
299
00:18:45,712 --> 00:18:49,264
But then he gets even more confused.
300
00:18:49,265 --> 00:18:55,165
There is activity in the closet because
he goes in there and he shrinks down.
301
00:18:58,758 --> 00:19:04,398
They look all cute and harmless,
and then they're crazy.
302
00:19:07,901 --> 00:19:11,265
Di Schiavi: Now that I've got a pretty good
idea about this home's recent history,
303
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I need to find out a little
bit more about its past.
304
00:19:13,725 --> 00:19:17,684
So I've reached out to a local genealogist
to look through the archives.
305
00:19:17,685 --> 00:19:23,585
He tells me he's come up with
some pretty interesting stuff.
306
00:19:30,069 --> 00:19:33,981
Di Schiavi: Bob, what were you able to find
out about the property I'm investigating?
307
00:19:33,982 --> 00:19:38,030
I was able to take the title
back to the mid-1850s.
308
00:19:38,031 --> 00:19:41,374
When a group of wealthy
German financiers...
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Acquired 38,000 acres of land.
310
00:19:44,402 --> 00:19:47,260
And wanted to develop a
town that would be a
311
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land of opportunity for the
German immigrants to come.
312
00:19:50,210 --> 00:19:53,532
All right, so, who wound up settling
on the land that I'm investigating?
313
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Do you know that?
314
00:19:54,689 --> 00:19:57,393
There were two brothers,
Ignatz and Louis Roesch.
315
00:19:57,394 --> 00:20:02,380
They were German immigrants who came over
here expecting the land of opportunity.
316
00:20:02,381 --> 00:20:06,716
There was gonna be parks,
lakes, churches, schools...
317
00:20:06,717 --> 00:20:11,233
I mean, a whole town that they could
come to and raise a family in.
318
00:20:11,234 --> 00:20:13,257
Okay, so what did they
find when they got here?
319
00:20:13,258 --> 00:20:17,004
A little stark reality. I think
it was woods and mosquitoes.
320
00:20:17,005 --> 00:20:20,398
They were met with very
difficult conditions.
321
00:20:20,399 --> 00:20:25,286
Louis had a total of six
children, three of which died.
322
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One of them was an infant.
323
00:20:28,107 --> 00:20:31,643
Louis, died 9 years old
by double pneumonia.
324
00:20:31,644 --> 00:20:35,842
And then a son, William, died
when he was 26 of enteritis.
325
00:20:35,843 --> 00:20:40,587
And I brought the death
certificate of William there.
326
00:20:40,588 --> 00:20:44,507
If they would have had the hospitals
and the proper medical attention,
327
00:20:44,508 --> 00:20:46,558
they could have done something different.
328
00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:48,949
- Sounds like he got screwed over.
- Yes.
329
00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:53,848
Can't imagine this is the life he dreamt
of when he left his home country.
330
00:20:53,849 --> 00:20:55,769
Okay.
331
00:20:58,594 --> 00:21:02,534
Allan: This man, who I thought
was a shadow person...
332
00:21:02,535 --> 00:21:07,995
He's, like, hiding. And he
doesn't want to come out.
333
00:21:08,346 --> 00:21:12,889
He's not talking to me, and this
is all coming from his mind.
334
00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:15,258
I'm determined to get into
this dead man's head.
335
00:21:15,259 --> 00:21:18,520
He's so violent and unpredictable
that I think he's responsible
336
00:21:18,521 --> 00:21:22,351
for whatever the people in
this house are going through.
337
00:21:22,352 --> 00:21:26,360
There was something with money
and him and even his family.
338
00:21:26,361 --> 00:21:29,742
I don't know. Like, something from...
339
00:21:29,743 --> 00:21:31,702
A long time ago.
340
00:21:31,703 --> 00:21:34,334
Anderson: Do you have
any idea when this was?
341
00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:36,392
Probably, like, 1850s.
342
00:21:36,393 --> 00:21:38,890
I don't even know if it's
in this freaking country.
343
00:21:38,891 --> 00:21:42,431
He felt betrayed, he felt...
344
00:21:43,109 --> 00:21:45,689
Double-crossed.
345
00:21:53,205 --> 00:21:56,265
Why would he haunt...
346
00:21:56,816 --> 00:21:59,964
And be trying to get revenge?
347
00:21:59,965 --> 00:22:04,285
They're cursed, really. They're cursed.
348
00:22:08,987 --> 00:22:10,847
Yes.
349
00:22:24,768 --> 00:22:26,908
Di Schiavi: I'm at the
library to see if I can find
350
00:22:26,909 --> 00:22:31,699
anything more about Fred
and Jessee's property.
351
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:37,600
I don't get any direct hits, but
one article catches my attention.
352
00:22:38,573 --> 00:22:44,217
Turns out there used to be a
sanitarium right near their house.
353
00:22:44,218 --> 00:22:47,086
But the records about what
went on there are limited.
354
00:22:47,087 --> 00:22:48,755
So I've reached out to a local historian.
355
00:22:48,756 --> 00:22:50,738
He tells me that the sanitarium
356
00:22:50,739 --> 00:22:56,619
is one of the most amazing
stories in Egg Harbor's history.
357
00:23:00,301 --> 00:23:02,436
During my research, I came
across this sanitarium
358
00:23:02,437 --> 00:23:04,705
that was right near the
property I'm investigating.
359
00:23:04,706 --> 00:23:06,622
What can you tell me about this place?
360
00:23:06,623 --> 00:23:11,536
Well, Steve, we had a place here that was
called the Neutral Water Health Spa.
361
00:23:11,537 --> 00:23:17,437
That was centered on the healing
waters of the creek behind us.
362
00:23:17,851 --> 00:23:20,742
It was cedar water that
comes up from the ground.
363
00:23:20,743 --> 00:23:23,423
It was advertised in several publications,
364
00:23:23,424 --> 00:23:26,159
and people that had all kinds
of ailments would come here,
365
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,780
and walk in the health waters.
366
00:23:29,781 --> 00:23:33,266
They heard that all the
wonderful cures you can get.
367
00:23:33,267 --> 00:23:37,493
What kind of ailments did these people
have that they would go in the water?
368
00:23:37,494 --> 00:23:42,968
Prostate problems, kidney problems,
uterine problems, infertility.
369
00:23:42,969 --> 00:23:46,058
- Okay.
- You name it, they came here for it.
370
00:23:46,059 --> 00:23:48,256
So there were a lot of sick
people on these grounds?
371
00:23:48,257 --> 00:23:52,020
- Yes, basically.
- Do we know if anybody died in this place?
372
00:23:52,021 --> 00:23:54,697
Well, we do have a reference
to one person who came here
373
00:23:54,698 --> 00:23:57,707
that the doctors in the area thought
he was at death's doorstep.
374
00:23:57,708 --> 00:24:00,368
And thought he shouldn't be
accepted, but they took him in.
375
00:24:00,369 --> 00:24:04,869
But we have no reference of how he died.
376
00:24:06,428 --> 00:24:07,356
Allan: Whoa.
377
00:24:07,357 --> 00:24:13,117
So there's a lot of people
that are walking through here.
378
00:24:16,094 --> 00:24:20,054
Woo. Lots of illness here. [Bleep]
379
00:24:21,265 --> 00:24:25,225
A lot of people who are vomiting.
380
00:24:25,389 --> 00:24:28,195
Something with preservation, maybe.
381
00:24:28,196 --> 00:24:32,166
Somebody's dying that has
something to do with this...
382
00:24:32,167 --> 00:24:33,689
Group.
383
00:24:33,690 --> 00:24:37,519
I feel really sick out here. I
feel really out of it out here.
384
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,480
I feel, like, lightheaded, dizzy...
385
00:24:41,530 --> 00:24:43,959
Hot, dehydrated, chest pain.
386
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,200
I can't see very well.
387
00:24:49,065 --> 00:24:51,105
[Bleep]
388
00:24:55,156 --> 00:24:57,460
Who ran this place? I mean,
was it a state place?
389
00:24:57,461 --> 00:25:01,345
No, it was a private entity that was
incorporated here in Egg Harbor City.
390
00:25:01,346 --> 00:25:04,168
And it was run by a Dr. Charles Smith.
391
00:25:04,169 --> 00:25:05,919
What kind of guy was he?
392
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,626
He was a very charismatic
person, eccentric.
393
00:25:08,627 --> 00:25:11,804
He wholeheartedly believed
in his "fountain of youth".
394
00:25:11,805 --> 00:25:13,893
Was he a legit doctor?
Did he have a degree?
395
00:25:13,894 --> 00:25:15,063
No he didn't have a degree,
396
00:25:15,064 --> 00:25:18,555
and there's nothing on record with
The State Department of Health.
397
00:25:18,556 --> 00:25:21,741
He once said that he was born in 1776,
398
00:25:21,742 --> 00:25:26,539
which would have made him well
over 140 years old when he died.
399
00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:30,088
Any given time, the
Neutral Water Health Spa,
400
00:25:30,089 --> 00:25:32,951
was pretty loaded with
about 100-and-some people.
401
00:25:32,952 --> 00:25:35,811
So he made a good living doing this.
402
00:25:35,812 --> 00:25:37,229
Basically, yeah.
403
00:25:37,230 --> 00:25:39,967
He was quite well-to-do at the end
404
00:25:39,968 --> 00:25:43,602
because just to build this
facility and this house
405
00:25:43,603 --> 00:25:49,423
and everything else that he had
took quite a bit of money.
406
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:53,886
Allan: There is a structure.
407
00:25:53,887 --> 00:25:56,856
I'm getting, like, the people
who had to organize it.
408
00:25:56,857 --> 00:25:59,977
Maybe doctors, maybe...
409
00:26:00,291 --> 00:26:04,119
People that had to put this together.
410
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:08,978
And there's a dead person here.
I don't like him.
411
00:26:08,979 --> 00:26:12,271
And there's a lot of money around him.
412
00:26:12,272 --> 00:26:16,112
He's very, very sick physically.
413
00:26:16,506 --> 00:26:20,106
And mentally, he's disturbed.
414
00:26:29,481 --> 00:26:31,931
During my walk, I
encountered many entities,
415
00:26:31,932 --> 00:26:36,989
so I had a sketch artist draw
the two who stood out clearly.
416
00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:39,596
First, the old man in the house.
417
00:26:39,597 --> 00:26:44,937
He's probably about 80, very
sick, very, very frail.
418
00:26:45,212 --> 00:26:47,660
Christine: How would you
describe the shape of the head?
419
00:26:47,661 --> 00:26:51,924
Fairly round, but then it
does kind of come down...
420
00:26:51,925 --> 00:26:54,865
To a sharper point.
421
00:26:55,574 --> 00:26:59,978
Next, I describe the bizarre
creatures in the Master Bedroom.
422
00:26:59,979 --> 00:27:02,663
These little things...
423
00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:06,348
That kind of resemble a jellyfish.
424
00:27:06,349 --> 00:27:12,249
This is kind of flipped, and then
the tentacles are coming out.
425
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:17,821
Amy, is this what you saw?
426
00:27:18,764 --> 00:27:20,624
Yes.
427
00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:43,694
Di Schiavi: Now that Amy and I
have completed our investigations,
428
00:27:43,695 --> 00:27:48,499
we're going to reveal our findings to each
other and our clients for the first time.
429
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:49,824
This is Fred and Jessee.
430
00:27:49,825 --> 00:27:51,258
- Hi.
- Hi. Hello.
431
00:27:51,259 --> 00:27:55,640
They're married. They've been living in
this house a little bit over eight years.
432
00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:58,949
They've been having experiences
ever since they moved in.
433
00:27:58,950 --> 00:28:03,017
But lately, things have
gotten really out of hand.
434
00:28:03,018 --> 00:28:05,283
What's most disturbing is they
got three small children,
435
00:28:05,284 --> 00:28:09,277
and two of them are starting
to have experiences.
436
00:28:09,278 --> 00:28:11,189
That being said, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy,
437
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:16,590
and she can explain what she
encountered on her walk.
438
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:25,300
Allan: The first thing that I got was I
was actually pulled to the backyard.
439
00:28:25,301 --> 00:28:30,581
I saw a lot of people there
and a lot of illness.
440
00:28:30,693 --> 00:28:33,632
These individuals were involved with...
441
00:28:33,633 --> 00:28:37,173
Trying to preserve something.
442
00:28:37,233 --> 00:28:41,895
And I saw the people who were trying
to organize this were doctors,
443
00:28:41,896 --> 00:28:44,370
but they couldn't make it work.
444
00:28:44,371 --> 00:28:48,973
Then I saw this one man
standing out, and he...
445
00:28:48,974 --> 00:28:52,334
Was severely mentally ill.
446
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:59,217
Well, there was this sanitarium
less than a mile from here.
447
00:28:59,218 --> 00:29:03,478
This is the picture of the sanitarium.
448
00:29:03,739 --> 00:29:06,121
This is in the late 1800s.
449
00:29:06,122 --> 00:29:10,993
This guy, Dr. Smith, claimed that he
discovered the fountain of youth.
450
00:29:10,994 --> 00:29:13,996
At any given time, he had over
100 people in this place.
451
00:29:13,997 --> 00:29:16,736
These people were sick that went there.
452
00:29:16,737 --> 00:29:19,267
What they were trying to
preserve was their youth.
453
00:29:19,268 --> 00:29:22,824
- Was he a real doctor?
- No, but you said he was crazy.
454
00:29:22,825 --> 00:29:26,702
He told somebody during a census
that he was 147 years old.
455
00:29:26,703 --> 00:29:32,103
I mean, do you think this
is what you picked up on?
456
00:29:32,248 --> 00:29:34,108
Yes.
457
00:29:35,020 --> 00:29:37,019
What else did you see?
458
00:29:37,020 --> 00:29:40,654
When I walked in the house, I felt like...
459
00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:44,846
The illnesses were a little
bit in the living room.
460
00:29:44,847 --> 00:29:48,488
Then when I went in the
pink room, I felt it...
461
00:29:48,489 --> 00:29:51,129
Really strongly.
462
00:29:52,211 --> 00:29:57,131
And I feel like it's
coming from the outside.
463
00:29:58,555 --> 00:30:00,803
That's my daughter's room.
464
00:30:00,804 --> 00:30:04,884
She's been sick for two years now.
465
00:30:05,461 --> 00:30:07,669
And they just couldn't find
anything wrong with her.
466
00:30:07,670 --> 00:30:12,713
They tested her from everything from cancer
to, like, anything that you can think of.
467
00:30:12,714 --> 00:30:15,772
And then six, eight months ago,
she got her appendix taken out.
468
00:30:15,773 --> 00:30:17,013
Oh, my gosh.
469
00:30:17,014 --> 00:30:19,844
We actually had a nurse that
was a nurse for 20 years,
470
00:30:19,845 --> 00:30:24,355
say that she's never seen a 3-year-old
get her appendix taken out.
471
00:30:24,356 --> 00:30:26,996
It's not fair.
472
00:30:29,348 --> 00:30:31,320
Di Schiavi: What else did you see?
473
00:30:31,321 --> 00:30:35,758
I saw an old man in the house.
And he's in his death state.
474
00:30:35,759 --> 00:30:39,971
He's just, like, confused, and
he's about 80, really little guy.
475
00:30:39,972 --> 00:30:45,552
His favorite spot is in the
closet in the back bedroom.
476
00:30:46,945 --> 00:30:49,825
He hides in there.
477
00:30:50,307 --> 00:30:52,167
Wow.
478
00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,411
That's my son's room.
479
00:30:58,412 --> 00:31:02,869
He's 6. He's never slept
a full night in his bed.
480
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:07,130
It validates everything he says to me.
481
00:31:07,221 --> 00:31:09,758
Well, there was a guy that
lived here for 51 years.
482
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,675
His name was Louis Brunk.
He died at the age of 87.
483
00:31:13,676 --> 00:31:16,407
I actually spoke to his
daughter, who grew up here.
484
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:21,042
At the end, he psychologically wasn't
right, and he would talk to his daughter
485
00:31:21,043 --> 00:31:24,720
and say, there's people here, they're
bothering me, they're talking to me.
486
00:31:24,721 --> 00:31:26,873
This is the guy.
487
00:31:26,874 --> 00:31:32,514
And actually, that's his
daughter in the photo with him.
488
00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:40,417
I did a sketch of a man I think
you're going to want to see.
489
00:31:44,912 --> 00:31:47,732
You guys tell me.
490
00:31:57,010 --> 00:31:58,870
Wow.
491
00:31:59,259 --> 00:32:01,779
That's crazy.
492
00:32:02,385 --> 00:32:04,130
I think it's him.
493
00:32:04,131 --> 00:32:07,666
I think it's too close to
dismiss it to be anyone else.
494
00:32:07,667 --> 00:32:09,947
It's him.
495
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,939
When I got here, behind me...
496
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:21,911
Was what I initially thought
was a shadow person...
497
00:32:21,912 --> 00:32:24,083
Huge, though. Huge.
498
00:32:24,084 --> 00:32:27,554
And then I realized, as he
was walking up behind me,
499
00:32:27,555 --> 00:32:30,522
that it was just a male who was hiding.
500
00:32:30,523 --> 00:32:34,954
His two favorite places are
the basement and the garage.
501
00:32:34,955 --> 00:32:38,763
This guy is very capable
of inflicting pain.
502
00:32:38,764 --> 00:32:41,829
He was very threatened by me being here.
503
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,238
Like, right away, we're out here, and
he comes in, and he's flipping out.
504
00:32:45,239 --> 00:32:48,848
He's, like, pounding on me.
He's like, get the [Bleep] out.
505
00:32:48,849 --> 00:32:50,964
Get out of here. Get out of here.
506
00:32:50,965 --> 00:32:54,954
His goal is to try to screw up...
507
00:32:54,955 --> 00:32:57,295
Your lives.
508
00:32:57,744 --> 00:33:02,530
Now, Jessee had an experience with a
shadow thing down in the basement.
509
00:33:02,531 --> 00:33:04,791
- Right.
- Would you explain that to Amy?
510
00:33:04,792 --> 00:33:07,259
I was walking down the steps with my son.
511
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:10,126
I get to the bottom step and I turn to him
512
00:33:10,127 --> 00:33:12,971
and right in front of
the light, very slowly,
513
00:33:12,972 --> 00:33:17,603
this large, like, floor-to-ceiling black
mass walked in front of the light.
514
00:33:17,604 --> 00:33:21,252
And it stopped for a good
three to four seconds.
515
00:33:21,253 --> 00:33:24,638
And then it, like, just dissipated.
516
00:33:24,639 --> 00:33:27,613
Coming up on the porch one
time, there was a shadow.
517
00:33:27,614 --> 00:33:29,315
It looked at me. I looked at him.
518
00:33:29,316 --> 00:33:31,666
And the other time, I mean,
I was sitting on the couch,
519
00:33:31,667 --> 00:33:34,110
and she was putting the kids to bed.
520
00:33:34,111 --> 00:33:36,127
Same thing.
521
00:33:36,128 --> 00:33:39,424
The back story that I
was able to get on him.
522
00:33:39,425 --> 00:33:43,347
Was that he's from like 100, 200 years ago.
523
00:33:43,348 --> 00:33:47,906
He was from another country, and he felt...
524
00:33:47,907 --> 00:33:51,070
Like he had been double-crossed.
525
00:33:51,071 --> 00:33:53,704
Something to do with land and money.
526
00:33:53,705 --> 00:33:57,545
And he became extremely vengeful.
527
00:33:57,952 --> 00:34:00,412
Di Schiavi: Amy, let me tell you
about this guy Louis Roesch.
528
00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:02,815
He came here from Germany
back in the 1860s.
529
00:34:02,816 --> 00:34:04,775
Came here with his wife and his brother.
530
00:34:04,776 --> 00:34:08,687
They settled in Egg Harbor, right under
the land that your house sits on.
531
00:34:08,688 --> 00:34:14,193
Supposedly, this place was gonna have
schools, churches, theaters, hospitals.
532
00:34:14,194 --> 00:34:17,296
They buy it, they come here,
they look at their land...
533
00:34:17,297 --> 00:34:20,432
There's none of that. All they
got are trees and mosquitoes.
534
00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:25,204
Basically, he was betrayed by the
people he gave his money to.
535
00:34:25,205 --> 00:34:29,487
He also had a lot of tragedy. Out of
his six kids, three of them died.
536
00:34:29,488 --> 00:34:35,248
The youngest was a little girl.
She died from appendicitis.
537
00:34:35,386 --> 00:34:39,375
He had a 9-year-old they
said died from a cold.
538
00:34:39,376 --> 00:34:43,065
He had a 26-year-old son
that died from enteritis.
539
00:34:43,066 --> 00:34:48,966
Had they been in a developed area, these
kids probably wouldn't have died.
540
00:34:50,217 --> 00:34:53,832
The next thing that I encountered was
when I went into the Master Bedroom.
541
00:34:53,833 --> 00:34:59,533
And what I saw in there was
these things on the ceiling.
542
00:35:00,207 --> 00:35:02,851
And they had, like, little tentacles.
543
00:35:02,852 --> 00:35:07,472
And they become very, very active at night.
544
00:35:08,648 --> 00:35:10,736
One of the main things... they don't sleep.
545
00:35:10,737 --> 00:35:12,484
- Ever.
- Ever.
546
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:15,905
- For eight years?
- Yeah.
547
00:35:16,314 --> 00:35:18,057
You had a sleepwalking incident.
548
00:35:18,058 --> 00:35:19,702
- I did.
- Really?
549
00:35:19,703 --> 00:35:23,055
Three months after we first
moved into the house.
550
00:35:23,056 --> 00:35:27,243
In my dream, I had woken up, and there
was a kid standing in my closet.
551
00:35:27,244 --> 00:35:30,187
I followed him out, and he
stopped at the basement door.
552
00:35:30,188 --> 00:35:33,072
He walked down the steps,
stopped at the landing.
553
00:35:33,073 --> 00:35:35,503
I stopped on the landing, and I woke up.
554
00:35:35,504 --> 00:35:38,613
And when I woke up, I was
standing on the landing.
555
00:35:38,614 --> 00:35:41,332
And then I called Fred, hysterical.
556
00:35:41,333 --> 00:35:43,029
Fred: Something's got to give.
557
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:46,514
Amy, do you know what those
things on the ceilings are?
558
00:35:46,515 --> 00:35:50,770
They're shattered aspects of the
people who lived and died here.
559
00:35:50,771 --> 00:35:53,157
It's kind of hard to visualize
what I'm talking about,
560
00:35:53,158 --> 00:35:57,118
so the sketch artist did draw it.
561
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,080
That's interesting. Take a look at that.
562
00:36:09,112 --> 00:36:11,512
Oh, my God.
563
00:36:28,325 --> 00:36:31,101
Do you know what those
things on the ceilings are?
564
00:36:31,102 --> 00:36:35,373
They're shattered aspects of the
people who lived and died here.
565
00:36:35,374 --> 00:36:37,596
It's kind of hard to visualize
what I'm talking about,
566
00:36:37,597 --> 00:36:41,557
so the sketch artist did draw it.
567
00:36:46,252 --> 00:36:50,692
That's interesting. Take a look at that.
568
00:36:53,866 --> 00:36:56,266
Oh, my God.
569
00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:05,890
Does it remind you of a dream you had?
570
00:37:05,891 --> 00:37:08,059
That's exactly where it was. Right there.
571
00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:10,561
Identical. That whole shape.
572
00:37:10,562 --> 00:37:14,455
Absolutely. To the "T".
That's how I felt afterwards.
573
00:37:14,456 --> 00:37:16,834
Exact placement.
574
00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:19,709
What's going on is that...
575
00:37:19,710 --> 00:37:24,030
This guy Louis wants these things to...
576
00:37:25,826 --> 00:37:31,226
Become an entity so he can
do very, very bad things.
577
00:37:31,467 --> 00:37:34,384
This Louis or the one from Germany?
578
00:37:34,385 --> 00:37:38,188
The one from Germany... the bad Louis.
579
00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:41,008
Honestly, I don't even
know what to do with this.
580
00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:44,129
His goal is vengeance.
581
00:37:44,335 --> 00:37:46,760
Because he felt double-crossed.
582
00:37:46,761 --> 00:37:51,921
And what he did was he
actually cursed this land.
583
00:37:52,306 --> 00:37:57,395
But when he did this curse,
he actually cursed himself.
584
00:37:57,396 --> 00:38:00,959
So he's, like, in this forever.
He can't get out.
585
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,407
But since he can't get out,
he's gonna continue to do this,
586
00:38:04,408 --> 00:38:09,313
to create problems or illness or
misery or whatever he can do.
587
00:38:09,314 --> 00:38:12,056
Your sleepwalking incident...
588
00:38:12,057 --> 00:38:16,557
Probably him, probably trying to kill you.
589
00:38:18,414 --> 00:38:20,665
Is that why he's always checking up on me?
590
00:38:20,666 --> 00:38:23,906
He's threatened by you.
591
00:38:24,126 --> 00:38:28,147
If he's able to ever get these things...
592
00:38:28,148 --> 00:38:29,984
Together.
593
00:38:29,985 --> 00:38:32,873
- What could happen?
- He'd get more powerful.
594
00:38:32,874 --> 00:38:38,774
He would be able to control them
and also feed off of their energy.
595
00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:41,518
- Was there anything else?
- No.
596
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:46,799
Well, remember before, I
told you about Louis Brunk?
597
00:38:47,392 --> 00:38:50,994
His 14-year-old son hung
himself in the basement here.
598
00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:52,915
Okay.
599
00:38:54,894 --> 00:38:59,214
Nobody knows why. Talked to his sister.
600
00:38:59,541 --> 00:39:02,801
Why do you think you think you
didn't get the hanging downstairs?
601
00:39:02,802 --> 00:39:04,719
It could be several things.
602
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:08,278
He could just be gone, or
he could be scattered.
603
00:39:08,279 --> 00:39:10,643
- Do you have a picture?
- Of him?
604
00:39:10,644 --> 00:39:13,824
- Of the son.
- I do.
605
00:39:16,088 --> 00:39:18,488
Oh, my God.
606
00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:24,572
That's who I saw in my dream.
607
00:39:32,477 --> 00:39:35,206
I don't think his son was a bad person,
608
00:39:35,207 --> 00:39:38,646
so I don't think he would lead
you down a flight of stairs.
609
00:39:38,647 --> 00:39:42,096
It could be that he was
influenced by this guy, Louis.
610
00:39:42,097 --> 00:39:44,977
Which is not good.
611
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:49,579
[ Crickets chirping ]
612
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:53,502
Di Schiavi: Jessee, Fred, you got hit
with a lot of information tonight.
613
00:39:53,503 --> 00:39:56,653
And I'm sure some of it's not
what you wanted to hear.
614
00:39:56,654 --> 00:40:01,404
The pressing question is, is it safe for
you to raise your children in this house?
615
00:40:01,405 --> 00:40:03,467
For that question, I'm gonna
turn that over to Amy,
616
00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:08,268
and hopefully she'll
have an answer for you.
617
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:16,260
You have a lot of dead
around this location, but...
618
00:40:16,517 --> 00:40:21,515
It's really beneficial for you
and the dead that are here...
619
00:40:21,516 --> 00:40:24,805
If you stay and stop the vicious cycle.
620
00:40:24,806 --> 00:40:29,486
What I feel needs to be done here is to...
621
00:40:29,973 --> 00:40:33,153
Contact a local Wiccan.
622
00:40:33,154 --> 00:40:34,832
What exactly is a Wiccan?
623
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:37,742
Wiccans are, like, a natural witch.
624
00:40:37,743 --> 00:40:40,286
They are all about the Earth,
they are all about nature,
625
00:40:40,287 --> 00:40:45,414
they're all about preservation,
and she or he is going to...
626
00:40:45,415 --> 00:40:51,172
Do some kind of ritual that will negate the
curse that he has placed upon himself.
627
00:40:51,173 --> 00:40:55,853
Will the Wiccan take care of the bad Louis?
628
00:40:56,067 --> 00:41:00,402
Uh, this fractured stuff, and possibly...
629
00:41:00,403 --> 00:41:03,452
- Our poor guy here?
- Yes.
630
00:41:03,453 --> 00:41:07,460
And it'll protect them from his...
631
00:41:07,461 --> 00:41:09,345
Vengeful curse.
632
00:41:09,346 --> 00:41:12,903
Will that take care of this sickness
that's outside trying to get in?
633
00:41:12,904 --> 00:41:15,652
Yes, yes. Mm-hmm.
634
00:41:15,653 --> 00:41:18,837
Fred: I would love to
help him to be with him.
635
00:41:18,838 --> 00:41:22,313
And even this guy... I would
like him to go with his family.
636
00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:27,307
Just let us go and just
do what we have to do.
637
00:41:27,308 --> 00:41:29,290
Are you gonna take her advice?
638
00:41:29,291 --> 00:41:31,301
- I'm gonna call tomorrow.
- Okay.
639
00:41:31,302 --> 00:41:35,025
What I had to go through, in
myself, which nobody knows...
640
00:41:35,026 --> 00:41:40,926
Other than her, maybe my parents, is
what my daughter's sickness did to me.
641
00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:43,133
I need to do it for her.
642
00:41:43,134 --> 00:41:48,594
It's gonna be taken care
of by the end of the week.
643
00:41:52,551 --> 00:41:55,054
I'm worried that if they don't
deal with it immediately,
644
00:41:55,055 --> 00:42:00,230
their suffering could continue, and they
might never find peace in their home.
645
00:42:00,231 --> 00:42:06,131
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