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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:05,555 --> 00:00:08,557 There's something lurking in the dark here. 3 00:00:08,558 --> 00:00:11,093 Not too comfortable with this house at night. 4 00:00:11,094 --> 00:00:13,128 He loves the death. 5 00:00:13,129 --> 00:00:15,130 It's really disturbing. 6 00:00:15,131 --> 00:00:17,299 It makes me physically sick. 7 00:00:17,300 --> 00:00:19,401 Previous owner killed himself in that bathtub? 8 00:00:19,402 --> 00:00:22,671 He sliced his throat, right at the jugular. 9 00:00:22,672 --> 00:00:25,140 People are freaking the [Bleep] out. 10 00:00:25,141 --> 00:00:27,176 I really don't want to be in the dark here. 11 00:00:27,177 --> 00:00:29,952 - Are you okay? - No. 12 00:00:29,953 --> 00:00:33,313 It's the house of death. 13 00:00:34,417 --> 00:00:36,657 They're being watched. 14 00:00:36,658 --> 00:00:39,559 My name is Amy Allan. 15 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,239 This thing likes death. 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,467 I see dead people. 17 00:00:43,468 --> 00:00:45,236 This thing is, like, a monster. 18 00:00:45,237 --> 00:00:47,038 I speak to dead people... 19 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:49,073 And he's pissed off now. 20 00:00:49,074 --> 00:00:50,415 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:50,416 --> 00:00:51,922 His head was cracked. 22 00:00:51,923 --> 00:00:54,778 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:54,779 --> 00:00:56,780 This guy was murdered. 24 00:00:56,781 --> 00:00:58,382 I rely on my partner. 25 00:00:58,383 --> 00:00:59,866 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 26 00:00:59,867 --> 00:01:01,797 I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 27 00:01:01,798 --> 00:01:04,521 I cannot help you unless I know the whole story. 28 00:01:04,522 --> 00:01:07,725 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:07,726 --> 00:01:10,394 You saw her? It's my job to reveal them. 30 00:01:10,395 --> 00:01:11,758 Why would you stay here? 31 00:01:11,759 --> 00:01:13,781 But Steve and I never speak... 32 00:01:13,782 --> 00:01:15,725 We never communicate during an investigation. 33 00:01:15,726 --> 00:01:17,152 Until the very end. 34 00:01:17,153 --> 00:01:19,036 Stop it. 35 00:01:19,037 --> 00:01:21,120 We uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 36 00:01:21,121 --> 00:01:23,479 I want to know the truth. I want to know what's happening. 37 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,778 Or time to get out. 38 00:01:24,779 --> 00:01:26,944 (Voice breaking) I told you there were ghosts in this house. 39 00:01:26,945 --> 00:01:30,005 (Indistinct whispering) 40 00:01:51,303 --> 00:01:55,849 (Steve) Amy and I never cross paths during our investigations. 41 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:58,975 I gather witnesses accounts, expert opinions, 42 00:01:58,976 --> 00:02:02,372 and research the history of the location. 43 00:02:02,373 --> 00:02:06,794 While Amy investigates what most people can't see. 44 00:02:06,795 --> 00:02:12,195 When we're done, we meet up and reveal our findings. 45 00:02:16,287 --> 00:02:19,289 I'm in the small town of Clinton, North Carolina. 46 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:22,292 It's about 45 minutes outside of Fayetteville. 47 00:02:22,293 --> 00:02:26,763 I got a call from a woman named Kara who runs the art center in town. 48 00:02:26,764 --> 00:02:31,101 She said that people that work for her are seeing all kinds of weird stuff. 49 00:02:31,102 --> 00:02:33,506 And Kara's worried that whatever's going on there, 50 00:02:33,507 --> 00:02:38,727 might shut down the center that she loves so much. 51 00:02:50,652 --> 00:02:55,710 (Matt) Amy needs to be free from outside influences during her walk. 52 00:02:55,711 --> 00:03:00,616 So it's important that I cover all the artwork and personal items at the location. 53 00:03:00,617 --> 00:03:06,517 Once I'm done, the building will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:03:33,352 --> 00:03:37,252 There's, like, a lot of sadness. 55 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:41,432 There's a woman... 56 00:03:41,433 --> 00:03:44,182 And she has long, dark hair. 57 00:03:44,183 --> 00:03:48,083 She's very, very pale, and thin. 58 00:03:48,526 --> 00:03:51,406 And she's talking. 59 00:03:53,393 --> 00:03:59,293 The first thing she said when she came up was "house of death". 60 00:04:16,792 --> 00:04:20,919 Well, Kara, you sounded really concerned on the phone, so tell me what's going on. 61 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,833 We've been having some experiences here with, um, volunteers hearing noises, 62 00:04:25,834 --> 00:04:30,383 seeing things moving, feeling something touch them. 63 00:04:30,384 --> 00:04:32,497 And seeing apparitions. 64 00:04:32,498 --> 00:04:34,514 Let me ask you, what's your biggest concern? 65 00:04:34,515 --> 00:04:39,426 We have a lot of kids who come to take art classes, and come to our events. 66 00:04:39,427 --> 00:04:42,078 But their parents are afraid to bring them up here, 67 00:04:42,079 --> 00:04:44,169 because of the things that are going on. 68 00:04:44,170 --> 00:04:46,311 We might close down because of that. 69 00:04:46,312 --> 00:04:49,763 Okay. Do you know who lived here before the house became the art center? 70 00:04:49,764 --> 00:04:54,648 Well, Dr. Small was a general practitioner here in Clinton. 71 00:04:54,649 --> 00:04:56,650 He lived in the house here. 72 00:04:56,651 --> 00:05:00,844 He left the house, in his will, to, um, the County. 73 00:05:00,845 --> 00:05:02,625 And it was deeded to the arts council, 74 00:05:02,626 --> 00:05:04,907 in hopes that it would be used for arts purposes. 75 00:05:04,908 --> 00:05:08,549 And we're just here to fulfill that dream for him. 76 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:12,056 Okay. Now what about the building itself, what do you know about it? 77 00:05:12,057 --> 00:05:16,202 About five years ago, extensive renovations were done to the house. 78 00:05:16,203 --> 00:05:18,203 It was in pretty bad shape. 79 00:05:18,204 --> 00:05:20,155 I was getting the sense that Kara was more 80 00:05:20,156 --> 00:05:22,611 afraid of the space than she was letting on. 81 00:05:22,612 --> 00:05:25,712 So I asked her the one question that always gives people away. 82 00:05:25,713 --> 00:05:28,649 Would you stay overnight here alone? 83 00:05:28,650 --> 00:05:30,884 Probably not. 84 00:05:30,885 --> 00:05:36,785 Not too comfortable with this house at night when it's dark. 85 00:05:40,328 --> 00:05:43,148 So this is wrong. 86 00:05:45,299 --> 00:05:47,588 So this was all... 87 00:05:47,589 --> 00:05:49,929 Like, open. 88 00:05:53,841 --> 00:05:57,141 This is just a disaster. 89 00:05:57,812 --> 00:06:03,712 What they're saying is, "oh, my God, look at what they did". 90 00:06:03,719 --> 00:06:05,852 (Amy) The dead here are very angry. 91 00:06:05,853 --> 00:06:10,208 Something about this structure has been changed, and they are furious about it. 92 00:06:10,209 --> 00:06:14,709 [Bleep] There's something really bad here. 93 00:06:17,799 --> 00:06:20,266 There's, like, something, like, literally that... 94 00:06:20,267 --> 00:06:24,107 Like, I come up, and it runs... 95 00:06:25,675 --> 00:06:29,165 And I just feel like my heart's like... 96 00:06:29,166 --> 00:06:33,458 Like, that fear. It takes my breath away. 97 00:06:33,459 --> 00:06:38,079 There's something lurking in the dark here. 98 00:06:42,932 --> 00:06:45,146 So, Kara, why did you bring me in this room? 99 00:06:45,147 --> 00:06:50,363 To show you the photos of Dr. Small and his wife Suzanne. 100 00:06:50,364 --> 00:06:53,927 The legend is, from a previous Director that we had here, 101 00:06:53,928 --> 00:06:57,272 if you were to switch the photos and hang them facing each other, 102 00:06:57,273 --> 00:07:02,493 Dr. Small comes and gently places it on the floor. 103 00:07:02,576 --> 00:07:05,394 And this has been witnessed by other people? 104 00:07:05,395 --> 00:07:07,669 - Yes. - Has it happened more than once? 105 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:09,045 It has. 106 00:07:09,046 --> 00:07:11,282 Okay, now why would he want 'em facing the other way, though? 107 00:07:11,283 --> 00:07:14,959 Dr. Small and his wife didn't get along, and he said... 108 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,498 "I don't want those photos facing each other, 109 00:07:17,499 --> 00:07:23,399 because I don't want to look at Suzanne for the rest of eternity". 110 00:07:24,094 --> 00:07:26,922 Sounds like you've got a lot of activity here, from what you're telling me. 111 00:07:26,923 --> 00:07:30,737 We've had a couple of other groups to come in and investigate. 112 00:07:30,738 --> 00:07:32,873 - What do you mean, like Ghost Hunters? - Yeah. 113 00:07:32,874 --> 00:07:38,774 They've tried to talk with the dead, but we haven't really had much result from them. 114 00:07:39,105 --> 00:07:41,025 Okay. 115 00:07:44,953 --> 00:07:46,776 There's a round table. 116 00:07:46,777 --> 00:07:50,137 People are sitting around. 117 00:07:50,793 --> 00:07:53,660 So what were they doing? 118 00:07:53,661 --> 00:07:55,945 A [Bleep] S?ance. 119 00:07:55,946 --> 00:08:00,553 They're holding hands, they've got the lace on the table... 120 00:08:00,554 --> 00:08:04,671 "Is anybody here, can we talk to anybody? Why are you doing these things?" 121 00:08:04,672 --> 00:08:08,112 So how would a s?ance affect the dead here? 122 00:08:08,113 --> 00:08:11,492 The dead begin to resent the living. 123 00:08:11,493 --> 00:08:17,393 How would you like it if people kept coming in your home and [Bleep] with you? 124 00:08:21,862 --> 00:08:23,928 Kara tells me it's her volunteers that have been 125 00:08:23,929 --> 00:08:27,927 experiencing most of the strange activity here. 126 00:08:27,928 --> 00:08:33,828 So I'm meeting with a former teacher to see if she's encountered anything weird. 127 00:08:38,239 --> 00:08:40,581 I was told that your history in this place goes way back, 128 00:08:40,582 --> 00:08:42,344 and you've had some experiences? 129 00:08:42,345 --> 00:08:46,246 When I was maybe 5 or 6, um, I was here for a party. 130 00:08:46,247 --> 00:08:49,536 And a figure came from that door over there. 131 00:08:49,537 --> 00:08:54,877 And walked through the railing and down the stairway. 132 00:08:54,922 --> 00:08:57,324 - You mean like an apparition? - Yes. 133 00:08:57,325 --> 00:09:00,788 It was a man, maybe 40s or 50s. 134 00:09:00,789 --> 00:09:02,890 Did you ever tell anybody about it? 135 00:09:02,891 --> 00:09:06,985 I didn't talk about it until my sister and I were riding by. 136 00:09:06,986 --> 00:09:10,330 And she had the same experience that day. 137 00:09:10,331 --> 00:09:12,693 It was at least ten years later before we talked about it. 138 00:09:12,694 --> 00:09:14,916 - In fact, she won't come back here. - She won't? 139 00:09:14,917 --> 00:09:17,437 - No. - Okay. 140 00:09:19,780 --> 00:09:23,731 There's, like, this guy who's really depressed. 141 00:09:23,732 --> 00:09:27,099 And he wears a dark suit. He's kind of tall. 142 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:33,000 I think that he's been seen, and I think that he's been heard. 143 00:09:33,861 --> 00:09:35,428 He... 144 00:09:35,429 --> 00:09:37,559 Plays the piano. 145 00:09:37,560 --> 00:09:41,520 But he plays it, like, messed up. 146 00:09:48,914 --> 00:09:52,094 - You all right? - No. 147 00:09:52,744 --> 00:09:56,644 I see, like, a bunch of coffins. 148 00:09:57,748 --> 00:10:01,231 Like, just literally, boom, boom, boom, boom. 149 00:10:01,232 --> 00:10:06,980 And this man is, like, preaching, and it's, like, really disturbing. 150 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:09,998 Like he's getting off on death. 151 00:10:09,999 --> 00:10:13,434 People are, like, freaking the [Bleep] out. 152 00:10:13,435 --> 00:10:19,335 As soon as I walked in, I wanted to just throw up, because it was so, like, sick. 153 00:10:20,674 --> 00:10:23,613 Meredith, tell me about when you were a teacher here. What happened? 154 00:10:23,614 --> 00:10:26,667 When I would have class, I always played music. 155 00:10:26,668 --> 00:10:31,489 So I had an MP3 player in the room, and it would constantly change songs. 156 00:10:31,490 --> 00:10:35,011 Or change the volume up and down without anybody touching it. 157 00:10:35,012 --> 00:10:36,861 Did you stop working here because of that? 158 00:10:36,862 --> 00:10:39,882 Yes. I didn't feel comfortable here after that. 159 00:10:39,883 --> 00:10:43,326 Later on, the position for Director came open here. 160 00:10:43,327 --> 00:10:45,186 - Okay. - It was a position I thought would be 161 00:10:45,187 --> 00:10:48,886 really good for me, but I knew I couldn't work here, so I never applied for it. 162 00:10:48,887 --> 00:10:53,267 There's no way I'd be here by myself. 163 00:10:58,411 --> 00:11:00,469 Can this man interact with the living? 164 00:11:00,470 --> 00:11:02,330 Yes. 165 00:11:03,764 --> 00:11:07,849 He's, like, always pacing around at night. 166 00:11:07,850 --> 00:11:11,750 He wants them to hear his music. 167 00:11:12,465 --> 00:11:16,065 He makes them feel depressed. 168 00:11:16,130 --> 00:11:22,030 They almost see him standing in front of them, but they feel it down to their bones. 169 00:11:22,865 --> 00:11:26,285 It's just absolute terror. 170 00:11:26,436 --> 00:11:28,356 Dark. 171 00:11:29,475 --> 00:11:31,635 Darkness. 172 00:11:43,822 --> 00:11:46,329 Can this man interact with the living? 173 00:11:46,330 --> 00:11:48,190 Yes. 174 00:11:48,432 --> 00:11:49,603 How? 175 00:11:49,604 --> 00:11:53,864 He definitely tries to preach to them. 176 00:11:56,386 --> 00:11:57,900 God. 177 00:11:57,901 --> 00:12:02,972 He loves, loves, loves the death, because he's [Bleep] weird. 178 00:12:02,973 --> 00:12:06,693 Creepy-ass guy, I don't know. 179 00:12:10,113 --> 00:12:12,381 (Steve) Kara told me that the house had been renovated. 180 00:12:12,382 --> 00:12:14,823 So I reached out to the contractor who did the work here, 181 00:12:14,824 --> 00:12:20,584 to see if he ever experienced anything while in the house. 182 00:12:23,894 --> 00:12:26,402 So, John, Kara told me that you were the contractor 183 00:12:26,403 --> 00:12:28,679 that rebuilt the whole house, basically. 184 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:29,852 That's correct. 185 00:12:29,853 --> 00:12:32,279 Okay, so during the time that you were working here, 186 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,368 did you ever experience anything that you couldn't explain? 187 00:12:34,369 --> 00:12:36,355 Oh, yes. 188 00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:40,943 Sometimes you can feel a presence, like being touched. 189 00:12:40,944 --> 00:12:45,033 It was sort of eerie feeling, a sensation like a spider web. 190 00:12:45,034 --> 00:12:50,934 Like being touched by a feather, and that would happen several times a week. 191 00:12:51,470 --> 00:12:52,678 How does it feel being back? 192 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,493 It's, uh, as if there's a presence still here. 193 00:12:56,494 --> 00:12:59,164 And I can sense that presence today. 194 00:12:59,165 --> 00:13:01,065 - You can? - By being here, yes. 195 00:13:01,066 --> 00:13:02,986 Okay. 196 00:13:04,642 --> 00:13:08,000 There's people getting hurt here still. 197 00:13:08,001 --> 00:13:11,003 - Living people, you mean? - Yeah. 198 00:13:11,004 --> 00:13:12,461 So what's happening to them? 199 00:13:12,462 --> 00:13:14,758 They're being attacked. They don't know why. 200 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:19,719 There's a lot of weird touching and stuff by this guy in the dark. 201 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,540 There's, you know, I mean, there... it's crazy. 202 00:13:24,541 --> 00:13:28,995 - What's wrong? - It feels like I've been punished. 203 00:13:28,996 --> 00:13:32,056 And I can't breathe. 204 00:13:32,827 --> 00:13:35,688 An angry entity in this house wants me gone, 205 00:13:35,689 --> 00:13:39,084 and he has a disturbing way of getting his message across. 206 00:13:39,085 --> 00:13:43,547 You don't feel the punch, you feel the physical effects of that. 207 00:13:43,548 --> 00:13:46,344 Like your diaphragm spasming. 208 00:13:46,345 --> 00:13:51,856 And you can't breathe, and you feel like you're gonna throw up. 209 00:13:51,857 --> 00:13:54,146 Okay, John, so why are we in this part of the house? 210 00:13:54,147 --> 00:13:56,883 I was gonna show you the, uh, bathtub. 211 00:13:56,884 --> 00:14:01,864 We had to move the existing cast-iron tub out. 212 00:14:01,922 --> 00:14:05,717 We did so using four men, moved the tub, 213 00:14:05,718 --> 00:14:08,659 across this foyer into that bedroom. 214 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:09,849 Okay. 215 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:14,164 The eerie thing about it, this door here remained open. 216 00:14:14,165 --> 00:14:18,833 The next morning when we returned, this door was closed. 217 00:14:18,834 --> 00:14:22,474 The tub was slid up against the door. 218 00:14:22,475 --> 00:14:23,976 You're kidding. 219 00:14:23,977 --> 00:14:26,429 - Was anybody in the house? - No one in the house. 220 00:14:26,430 --> 00:14:29,397 We locked it up every night. 221 00:14:29,398 --> 00:14:31,332 Now you said it's cast-iron, this tub? 222 00:14:31,333 --> 00:14:34,393 Yes, it's cast-iron. 223 00:14:34,688 --> 00:14:36,548 Wow. 224 00:14:36,690 --> 00:14:39,810 Oh, yeah, I mean, I consider myself strong. 225 00:14:39,811 --> 00:14:41,392 I don't think I can move that by myself. 226 00:14:41,393 --> 00:14:44,513 Not one bit, no, Sir. 227 00:14:47,233 --> 00:14:49,873 Let's see now. 228 00:14:57,711 --> 00:15:02,848 Oh, my God. This is, like, so [Bleep] I can't even tell you. 229 00:15:02,849 --> 00:15:06,389 This person's upset about... 230 00:15:07,504 --> 00:15:09,544 This... 231 00:15:11,758 --> 00:15:12,798 About what? 232 00:15:12,799 --> 00:15:15,739 Everything is not... 233 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:19,065 The way he made it. 234 00:15:19,066 --> 00:15:22,483 - You talking about the owner guy? - Yeah. 235 00:15:22,484 --> 00:15:26,014 And you know what's weird, is, like, there's dead bodies, like, 236 00:15:26,015 --> 00:15:27,255 all over the place. 237 00:15:27,256 --> 00:15:28,896 What do you mean? Can you describe 'em? 238 00:15:28,897 --> 00:15:34,484 They're just dead people, laying around in random places. 239 00:15:34,485 --> 00:15:36,384 Mm, what happened to them? 240 00:15:36,385 --> 00:15:41,245 I'm getting some really, really weird [Bleep]. 241 00:15:46,927 --> 00:15:49,519 So, Ashley, I understand you're a volunteer teacher here, 242 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,287 and I was wondering if you ever had any strange experiences here. 243 00:15:52,288 --> 00:15:57,019 Um, yes. The bathroom right up here, I won't go in at all. 244 00:15:57,020 --> 00:16:00,492 - Why? - It makes me physically sick. 245 00:16:00,493 --> 00:16:03,752 - Are you afraid of it? - Whenever I go in there, I get chills. 246 00:16:03,753 --> 00:16:07,209 It... the way I feel makes me scared, so I definitely would not go in there. 247 00:16:07,210 --> 00:16:08,905 You know what? Come with me. 248 00:16:08,906 --> 00:16:11,957 I know you're scared, but just come with me for a sec. 249 00:16:11,958 --> 00:16:14,386 Okay. How are you feeling? 250 00:16:14,387 --> 00:16:18,576 Just seeing it this close is getting me a little upset. 251 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:20,467 - Boy, you're really shaking. - Mm-hmm. 252 00:16:20,468 --> 00:16:24,147 - You all right? - Just uneasy being near this bathroom. 253 00:16:24,148 --> 00:16:26,650 All right, come on, let's go back out here. 254 00:16:26,651 --> 00:16:30,340 Can you describe what you physically just went through. 255 00:16:30,341 --> 00:16:35,412 Shaky, trembly, uh, it's a feeling that I don't want to feel ever. 256 00:16:35,413 --> 00:16:38,361 Would you stay overnight in any other part of the house here? 257 00:16:38,362 --> 00:16:40,942 Absolutely not. 258 00:16:45,888 --> 00:16:49,968 The darkness is just very bad here. 259 00:16:50,264 --> 00:16:55,064 Because all the bad things happened at night. 260 00:17:00,373 --> 00:17:02,803 I do not like the dark here. 261 00:17:02,804 --> 00:17:05,684 I'm afraid of it. 262 00:17:05,734 --> 00:17:10,868 There's this male lurking in the dark who can hurt you. 263 00:17:10,869 --> 00:17:14,829 He kind of fills up the darkness. 264 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:27,324 I do not like the dark here. 265 00:17:27,325 --> 00:17:30,205 I'm afraid of it. 266 00:17:31,059 --> 00:17:36,699 There's this male lurking in the dark who can hurt you. 267 00:17:37,739 --> 00:17:42,959 He kind of fills up the darkness, like, completely. 268 00:17:43,567 --> 00:17:48,727 He lives in the dark, and he [Bleep] with people. 269 00:17:50,198 --> 00:17:54,236 (Steve) The obvious place for me to start my investigation is with Dr. Small. 270 00:17:54,237 --> 00:17:56,486 He's the guy who lived in the house I'm investigating, 271 00:17:56,487 --> 00:17:59,486 before he donated it to the County. 272 00:17:59,487 --> 00:18:02,489 I was able to track down the lawyer who drew up his will. 273 00:18:02,490 --> 00:18:07,530 Hopefully, he'll give me some useful information. 274 00:18:13,468 --> 00:18:16,751 Well Gene, thanks for taking the time to meet me in your busy schedule. 275 00:18:16,752 --> 00:18:19,131 - Appreciate that. - Happy to do so. 276 00:18:19,132 --> 00:18:22,183 Dr. Small, what can you tell me about him? 277 00:18:22,184 --> 00:18:25,087 Well, Dr. Small, uh... 278 00:18:25,088 --> 00:18:29,406 Certainly was a unique personality, to say the least. 279 00:18:29,407 --> 00:18:32,458 I think he was eccentric, in some respects. 280 00:18:32,459 --> 00:18:34,543 I have a picture of him here. 281 00:18:34,544 --> 00:18:38,324 I'd say he was late 40s, early 50s. 282 00:18:38,325 --> 00:18:42,631 He had a strong affinity for the arts... 283 00:18:42,632 --> 00:18:45,272 Culture, poetry. 284 00:18:45,444 --> 00:18:47,322 So, Gene, you actually wrote his will? 285 00:18:47,323 --> 00:18:50,094 Uh, yes, I did. I have a copy of it here. 286 00:18:50,095 --> 00:18:55,084 And as you can see, Steve, it's 18 pages long. 287 00:18:55,085 --> 00:18:58,614 Gene, can you save me some reading? Is anything unusual in this will? 288 00:18:58,615 --> 00:19:01,858 Well, he didn't provide for his wife. 289 00:19:01,859 --> 00:19:04,852 What he told me, uh... 290 00:19:04,853 --> 00:19:08,224 Their relationship was not very close. 291 00:19:08,225 --> 00:19:12,364 Uh, I do recall that I think they slept in separate bedrooms. 292 00:19:12,365 --> 00:19:15,227 As I understand, she had her own banking account. 293 00:19:15,228 --> 00:19:17,390 They had separate bank accounts. 294 00:19:17,391 --> 00:19:20,374 And when he would talk, it was always 295 00:19:20,375 --> 00:19:25,415 in first person single, he would never say "we". 296 00:19:29,812 --> 00:19:33,115 It's like, I want to say, like, there's a Doctor. 297 00:19:33,116 --> 00:19:37,316 Like, he knows a lot about the body. 298 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:42,410 And, like, pressure points, so he'll, like, do that, and you don't 299 00:19:42,411 --> 00:19:47,663 feel the hand, but you feel the pressure, and then you'll feel, like... 300 00:19:47,664 --> 00:19:52,301 Like you want to pass out or whatever, because he's pushing these points. 301 00:19:52,302 --> 00:19:55,072 Throughout this walk, I keep being harassed by an entity, 302 00:19:55,073 --> 00:19:57,540 who I think was a Doctor when he was alive. 303 00:19:57,541 --> 00:20:01,810 He keeps sneaking up on me and disappearing back into the darkness. 304 00:20:01,811 --> 00:20:05,744 He... he knows where to touch, like, the spots to make headaches come on, 305 00:20:05,745 --> 00:20:10,250 to make people feel like they can't breathe, to make them feel... 306 00:20:10,251 --> 00:20:15,793 You know, he knows all of these spots. To me, it seemed trained. 307 00:20:15,794 --> 00:20:19,214 I don't like him at all. 308 00:20:23,285 --> 00:20:24,900 How did he die? 309 00:20:24,901 --> 00:20:28,575 He was found, um, the back of the small house. 310 00:20:28,576 --> 00:20:33,235 Uh, one cold February morning after a real cold night. 311 00:20:33,236 --> 00:20:35,740 It was icy or snowing, I don't recall. 312 00:20:35,741 --> 00:20:39,544 Said he had his right forearm across his chest. 313 00:20:39,545 --> 00:20:41,883 Like he was almost in a casket. 314 00:20:41,884 --> 00:20:45,950 So what you're saying is they found him face-up, dead in the snow. 315 00:20:45,951 --> 00:20:48,335 (Steve) I know it hardly ever gets cold enough to snow here. 316 00:20:48,336 --> 00:20:50,526 Face-up, laying on his back. 317 00:20:50,527 --> 00:20:52,734 Now do we know the cause of death? Did they do an autopsy? 318 00:20:52,735 --> 00:20:56,870 I have the, uh, death certificate here, and it says "myocardial infarction". 319 00:20:56,871 --> 00:21:00,951 - That's a... - Heart attack, okay. 320 00:21:04,907 --> 00:21:08,747 I'm seeing, like, a heavy coat. 321 00:21:09,238 --> 00:21:13,078 [Bleep] It's cold in here, man. 322 00:21:13,583 --> 00:21:16,840 See, I'm getting a lot of cold, which doesn't make any sense. 323 00:21:16,841 --> 00:21:21,291 Like the snow, I saw snow, which doesn't make any sense. 324 00:21:21,292 --> 00:21:23,303 Why does the snow not make sense? 325 00:21:23,304 --> 00:21:29,204 Because we're in North Carolina, and I don't think it snows here. 326 00:21:29,792 --> 00:21:33,535 Gene, I'm gonna ask you a question that's gonna sound a little odd but... 327 00:21:33,536 --> 00:21:36,260 Your dealings with him, did he ever mention anything about his house 328 00:21:36,261 --> 00:21:38,656 maybe being haunted or anything like that? 329 00:21:38,657 --> 00:21:40,719 Yes, I think he did. 330 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,554 I do remember him saying something to the effect that things had been moved... 331 00:21:45,555 --> 00:21:50,172 From one place to another in there, certainly implying that it was haunted. 332 00:21:50,173 --> 00:21:54,691 And he also mentioned that a previous owner of that house, 333 00:21:54,692 --> 00:21:58,013 uh, slit his throat in that bathtub. 334 00:21:58,014 --> 00:21:59,962 The previous owner killed himself in that bathtub? 335 00:21:59,963 --> 00:22:03,263 That's what he told me. 336 00:22:06,369 --> 00:22:08,900 Gene mentioned that a previous homeowner committed 337 00:22:08,901 --> 00:22:11,578 suicide in the house I'm investigating. 338 00:22:11,579 --> 00:22:15,045 But he didn't have any details for me. 339 00:22:15,046 --> 00:22:20,946 So I asked a local reporter to dig into his newspaper's archives for me. 340 00:22:26,322 --> 00:22:28,390 Well, Jeff, thanks for taking the time to meet me. 341 00:22:28,391 --> 00:22:29,725 - I appreciate that. - Happy to. 342 00:22:29,726 --> 00:22:32,795 What can you tell me about the previous owner of Dr. Small's place? 343 00:22:32,796 --> 00:22:37,789 Dr. Leeman Matthews was our Superintendent of Public Schools here in Samson County. 344 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:40,850 From 1907 until 1918. 345 00:22:41,267 --> 00:22:42,671 What about the suicide? 346 00:22:42,672 --> 00:22:46,512 It was, uh, probably very messy. 347 00:22:46,595 --> 00:22:49,197 According to the death certificate... 348 00:22:49,198 --> 00:22:52,970 He had locked himself in the bathroom upstairs. 349 00:22:52,971 --> 00:22:58,187 In the bathtub, and sliced his throat, right at the jugular. 350 00:22:58,188 --> 00:23:00,853 - Okay. - The doors were locked. 351 00:23:00,854 --> 00:23:04,132 - He was apparently home alone at the time. - Okay. 352 00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:08,229 And we're not sure who found the body, probably a family member. 353 00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:10,098 Did he have a wife and kids? What happened? 354 00:23:10,099 --> 00:23:15,252 Had a wife and five children who were living there, and 47 years old. 355 00:23:15,253 --> 00:23:17,398 Jeff, did he have a history of depression? 356 00:23:17,399 --> 00:23:19,890 Not that we've been able to find any evidence of. 357 00:23:19,891 --> 00:23:23,240 But there were some friends and family members had noticed some changes in 358 00:23:23,241 --> 00:23:29,141 the weeks prior to this, it just seemed to all come across very sudden. 359 00:23:36,009 --> 00:23:40,269 There's a lot of screaming, screaming. 360 00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:42,060 The house of death. 361 00:23:42,061 --> 00:23:45,133 That keeps replaying... the house of death. 362 00:23:45,134 --> 00:23:47,135 [Bleep] 363 00:23:47,136 --> 00:23:50,371 (Amy) Something about this structure is attracting death and negativity. 364 00:23:50,372 --> 00:23:55,377 I'm not quite sure what it is, but it's very powerful. 365 00:23:55,378 --> 00:23:58,831 I really don't want to be in the dark here. 366 00:23:58,832 --> 00:24:04,232 Like, bad, bad, bad [Bleep] happens in the dark here. 367 00:24:15,902 --> 00:24:19,058 (Steve) With two previous owners dying under bizarre circumstances, 368 00:24:19,059 --> 00:24:22,089 the art center has tragedy written all over it. 369 00:24:22,090 --> 00:24:26,886 But I need to find out who owned the property prior to Leeman Matthews. 370 00:24:26,887 --> 00:24:31,519 Turns out, a man named Abraham Hobbs originally owned the place. 371 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,332 But the records about his life don't have many specifics. 372 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:40,233 So I tracked down a local historian to see what he could tell me. 373 00:24:43,496 --> 00:24:46,720 During my research, I came across a guy by the name of Hobbs. 374 00:24:46,721 --> 00:24:48,989 It looks like he was one of the original owners of this home. 375 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:51,141 What can you tell me about Hobbs? 376 00:24:51,142 --> 00:24:56,615 Abraham Hobbs was born into a well-to-do family in northern Samson County. 377 00:24:56,616 --> 00:25:01,118 Abraham joined the Confederate Army in 1862. 378 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,196 Soon thereafter, he was wounded at the Battle of Antietam. 379 00:25:05,197 --> 00:25:09,249 He left the service in the fall of 1864. 380 00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:11,931 What did he do for a living, though, once he was here? 381 00:25:11,932 --> 00:25:15,488 Just after the end of the war, he went on to become a gentleman farmer. 382 00:25:15,489 --> 00:25:16,931 What is a gentleman farmer? 383 00:25:16,932 --> 00:25:20,696 Uh, someone that really had someone else to do the work for him. 384 00:25:20,697 --> 00:25:23,144 The slaves had been emancipated. 385 00:25:23,145 --> 00:25:28,610 But there were a lot of former slaves and no means to support themselves. 386 00:25:28,611 --> 00:25:34,071 So they would typically work for low wages, or remain with the families they had known. 387 00:25:34,072 --> 00:25:37,792 And continue to work for them. 388 00:25:42,013 --> 00:25:46,640 This depressed man, he owned this place, for sure. 389 00:25:46,641 --> 00:25:49,088 - This was his place. - Any idea when? 390 00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:51,540 [Bleep] Long time ago, I don't know. 391 00:25:51,541 --> 00:25:54,780 He was bitching about the war, but I don't know what war. 392 00:25:54,781 --> 00:25:57,883 Like, everything that came out of his mouth was meaningless. 393 00:25:57,884 --> 00:26:03,784 The only time he felt anything was when he was doing really evil [Bleep] to people. 394 00:26:03,834 --> 00:26:08,934 Um, in his family, and these bodies that he got. 395 00:26:14,991 --> 00:26:17,969 What about family? Did he have wife, kids, what's the story? 396 00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:20,334 Abraham and his wife had six children. 397 00:26:20,335 --> 00:26:25,590 And also within the house, his stepmother and her son. 398 00:26:25,591 --> 00:26:27,418 Which was Abraham's half brother. 399 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:31,467 The half brother was named Gaston, and he was the school music teacher. 400 00:26:31,468 --> 00:26:35,497 But the focus of the house would likely have been on the children, 401 00:26:35,498 --> 00:26:39,090 the gospel, faith, and their education. 402 00:26:39,091 --> 00:26:41,526 - So he was a religious man? - That's right. 403 00:26:41,527 --> 00:26:43,470 Who died on the property, do you have any idea? 404 00:26:43,471 --> 00:26:47,136 We know that one of his daughters died in the 1880s. 405 00:26:47,137 --> 00:26:50,797 His wife Lizzie died in 1897. 406 00:26:51,168 --> 00:26:56,688 And his half brother Gaston died in the house as well. 407 00:27:00,794 --> 00:27:03,974 I saw a man preaching. 408 00:27:05,855 --> 00:27:08,876 And he's, like, yelling. 409 00:27:08,877 --> 00:27:12,858 (Amy) This depressed man has gone insane, and he's ranting to his wife. 410 00:27:12,859 --> 00:27:18,759 She's scared and wants me to see all of the horrifying things that took place here. 411 00:27:20,366 --> 00:27:25,826 She says that he had a room that was dark and small. 412 00:27:25,866 --> 00:27:30,423 And that he would do things to human bodies there. 413 00:27:30,424 --> 00:27:33,937 And it's almost like kind of research-y... 414 00:27:33,938 --> 00:27:37,813 But also he's kind of likes it a little too much. 415 00:27:37,814 --> 00:27:43,334 I think he was interested in, like, what morticians do. 416 00:27:43,524 --> 00:27:46,258 She's showing me, like, dead bodies. 417 00:27:46,259 --> 00:27:50,075 But it's weird, because they're in bed. 418 00:27:50,076 --> 00:27:51,682 How many are in it? 419 00:27:51,683 --> 00:27:53,543 Two. 420 00:27:53,544 --> 00:27:56,697 I think this guy was really fixated on death. 421 00:27:56,698 --> 00:28:00,418 (Whispering) I don't like him. 422 00:28:07,380 --> 00:28:11,260 During my walk, I sensed the presence of several dead men. 423 00:28:11,261 --> 00:28:15,762 What was confusing to me is, I was only able to see one of them clearly. 424 00:28:15,763 --> 00:28:17,983 He was... 425 00:28:17,989 --> 00:28:19,909 Thin. 426 00:28:21,961 --> 00:28:25,861 He had a long face, sunken eyes. 427 00:28:27,112 --> 00:28:29,728 He has a pretty large nose. 428 00:28:29,729 --> 00:28:30,883 Brown hair. 429 00:28:30,884 --> 00:28:34,105 Full, but very well groomed. 430 00:28:34,106 --> 00:28:37,286 Something about glasses. 431 00:28:40,446 --> 00:28:43,806 Is this the man you saw? 432 00:28:44,530 --> 00:28:46,390 Yes. 433 00:29:07,563 --> 00:29:10,546 (Steve) Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 434 00:29:10,547 --> 00:29:14,351 we're free to reveal our findings to our clients and to each other. 435 00:29:14,352 --> 00:29:15,634 This is Kara. 436 00:29:15,635 --> 00:29:20,429 She is the Executive Director of the Samson County arts council. 437 00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:24,400 Kara's worried about possibly having to shut the place down because of, 438 00:29:24,401 --> 00:29:27,095 nobody signing up for any programs. 439 00:29:27,096 --> 00:29:30,381 Meredith used to volunteer here. She doesn't do it any longer. 440 00:29:30,382 --> 00:29:32,552 You've been tormented by this place since you were a kid. 441 00:29:32,553 --> 00:29:34,235 Yeah. 442 00:29:34,236 --> 00:29:35,886 Ashley does volunteer here. 443 00:29:35,887 --> 00:29:37,770 She doesn't even want to be in this house alone. 444 00:29:37,771 --> 00:29:42,216 Matter of fact, there is a part of the house that she is absolutely terrified by. 445 00:29:42,217 --> 00:29:48,117 So, Amy, why don't we start out by you talking about your walk? 446 00:29:50,591 --> 00:29:53,793 When I first walked into the house, 447 00:29:53,794 --> 00:29:57,630 the dead were very upset with what has happened to this house physically. 448 00:29:57,631 --> 00:30:01,822 The walls being changed, the stairwell being changed. 449 00:30:01,823 --> 00:30:06,375 This is very upsetting to them, and one entity in particular... 450 00:30:06,376 --> 00:30:09,161 Uh, is very, very ticked. 451 00:30:09,162 --> 00:30:11,757 That could make sense, because the house has been through 452 00:30:11,758 --> 00:30:14,781 three major renovations within the last 100 years or so. 453 00:30:14,782 --> 00:30:17,440 - The latest renovation was in 2008. - Right. 454 00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:20,295 I actually spoke to the contractor who did the work here. 455 00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:22,828 He heard voices, footsteps. 456 00:30:22,829 --> 00:30:26,855 The other strange thing is, four of his men had to move this bathtub. 457 00:30:26,856 --> 00:30:29,542 When they came back the next day, now there was no break-in, 458 00:30:29,543 --> 00:30:31,913 nothing was taken... 459 00:30:31,914 --> 00:30:35,010 It was moved like 4 feet. 460 00:30:35,011 --> 00:30:36,660 And I saw this tub... 461 00:30:36,661 --> 00:30:40,021 It's a heavy, heavy tub. 462 00:30:41,141 --> 00:30:43,335 Okay, what else happened on your walk? 463 00:30:43,336 --> 00:30:47,716 I encountered this one entity who, um... 464 00:30:48,297 --> 00:30:51,578 Was able to make me feel like I had been punched, 465 00:30:51,579 --> 00:30:55,096 but I wouldn't feel, like, the physical punch, it would be, like, the aftermath... 466 00:30:55,097 --> 00:30:59,711 Breathless all of a sudden, very uncomfortable, and a lot of pain. 467 00:30:59,712 --> 00:31:02,712 He also knows, like, pressure points. 468 00:31:02,713 --> 00:31:06,373 So I thought, he's a Doctor. 469 00:31:06,790 --> 00:31:10,250 I don't really think it's safe here at night. 470 00:31:10,251 --> 00:31:12,514 Because of him. 471 00:31:12,515 --> 00:31:14,282 That's when he attacks. 472 00:31:14,283 --> 00:31:18,787 It's funny you mention Doctor, because one of the previous owners was a Dr. Small. 473 00:31:18,788 --> 00:31:22,628 I actually have a photo of him. 474 00:31:22,692 --> 00:31:27,252 He moved here with his wife back in 1924. 475 00:31:28,516 --> 00:31:30,247 I talked to his attorney. 476 00:31:30,248 --> 00:31:34,015 And Small thought this place was haunted. 477 00:31:34,016 --> 00:31:36,004 He'd tell him there were spirits in the house. 478 00:31:36,005 --> 00:31:38,006 He said things would get moved. 479 00:31:38,007 --> 00:31:39,867 Wow. 480 00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:45,234 The only thing about him, I mean, he was considered a nice guy, a gentle guy. 481 00:31:45,235 --> 00:31:47,718 But he hated his wife. 482 00:31:47,719 --> 00:31:48,907 Okay. 483 00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:51,625 Kara, maybe you can tell her about the portraits. 484 00:31:51,626 --> 00:31:55,257 The portraits here are of Dr. Small and his wife Suzanne. 485 00:31:55,258 --> 00:32:01,026 Dr. Small had asked that the pictures not face each other, because he had said... 486 00:32:01,027 --> 00:32:04,306 "I don't want to look at Suzanne for the rest of eternity". 487 00:32:04,307 --> 00:32:07,954 So we keep them opposite of each other. 488 00:32:07,955 --> 00:32:11,975 And if you change them, they move. 489 00:32:12,352 --> 00:32:14,367 Interesting. 490 00:32:14,368 --> 00:32:15,836 What else did you see? 491 00:32:15,837 --> 00:32:18,625 Then I saw, like, a weird kind of vision, 492 00:32:18,626 --> 00:32:22,867 where I was suddenly wearing a really heavy coat. 493 00:32:22,868 --> 00:32:25,215 Um, because I... it was cold. 494 00:32:25,216 --> 00:32:29,455 And I saw snow, like, falling in front of the windows. 495 00:32:29,456 --> 00:32:30,760 I don't think it snows here. 496 00:32:30,761 --> 00:32:32,740 You're right, it doesn't really snow that often, 497 00:32:32,741 --> 00:32:35,407 - but it does snow here once in a while. - Yes. 498 00:32:35,408 --> 00:32:39,978 As a matter of fact, he died on February 3, 1971. 499 00:32:39,979 --> 00:32:42,742 I've got his death certificate here. 500 00:32:42,743 --> 00:32:45,821 And basically it says he dies of a heart attack, 501 00:32:45,822 --> 00:32:49,370 but it's still, it's very strange how he died. 502 00:32:49,371 --> 00:32:52,059 He was found right here in the backyard. 503 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:55,110 There was a snowstorm that night, but they never did an autopsy on him. 504 00:32:55,111 --> 00:32:57,931 And he was found in the snow facing up, 505 00:32:57,932 --> 00:33:01,580 almost posing with his arm across his chest. 506 00:33:01,581 --> 00:33:04,821 He was basically frozen. 507 00:33:07,941 --> 00:33:09,336 Okay, what else? 508 00:33:09,337 --> 00:33:13,875 So I was upstairs, and I saw dead bodies. 509 00:33:13,876 --> 00:33:17,156 They were kind of in random places. 510 00:33:17,157 --> 00:33:19,158 It was just a very strange feeling. 511 00:33:19,159 --> 00:33:21,428 So you're talking the top of the stairs by the bathroom. 512 00:33:21,429 --> 00:33:23,430 It was in front of the bathroom. 513 00:33:23,431 --> 00:33:25,798 This is a good time for Ashley to tell you about 514 00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:29,005 how she gets when she goes near that bathroom. 515 00:33:29,006 --> 00:33:34,445 The first time I walked in the bathroom, I took two steps in and got shaky... 516 00:33:34,446 --> 00:33:38,445 Stomach hurts, it feels like, you know, a true feeling of dread... 517 00:33:38,446 --> 00:33:42,367 Or, you know, just something I can't describe when I go near that bathroom. 518 00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:44,217 I'm getting shaky talking about it right now. 519 00:33:44,218 --> 00:33:47,831 It's a feeling I've never felt before, anywhere else. 520 00:33:47,832 --> 00:33:51,365 Well, there's a little bit of a back story to that bathroom. 521 00:33:51,366 --> 00:33:53,541 There was a guy that used to live here before Dr. Small, 522 00:33:53,542 --> 00:33:57,322 by the name of Leeman Matthews. 523 00:33:57,399 --> 00:34:00,450 Now he was a well-respected guy. 524 00:34:00,451 --> 00:34:05,557 He was a School Superintendent here from 1907 to 1918. 525 00:34:05,558 --> 00:34:09,673 Never had issues, and then his whole personality changed 526 00:34:09,674 --> 00:34:12,328 about two weeks before he committed suicide. 527 00:34:12,329 --> 00:34:14,369 (Gasps) 528 00:34:15,615 --> 00:34:19,224 He took a straight razor and cut his jugular open. 529 00:34:19,225 --> 00:34:21,572 And bled to death in the bathtub. 530 00:34:21,573 --> 00:34:26,198 This is the same bathtub that the contractor said moved by itself. 531 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,182 How do you feel about that, now that you know that? 532 00:34:29,183 --> 00:34:32,067 It's a little shocking. 533 00:34:32,068 --> 00:34:35,979 But I feel a little better to know that it's not just me or something I've made up, 534 00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:37,760 but that's something that happened in there, 535 00:34:37,761 --> 00:34:42,081 and there's a reason I feel that way. 536 00:34:43,630 --> 00:34:45,878 Okay, let's continue with the rest of your walk. 537 00:34:45,879 --> 00:34:51,779 One of the people that I did come into contact with was a very depressed man. 538 00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:58,150 He was very much into playing piano, but he was not good at it. 539 00:34:58,383 --> 00:35:01,390 He was very, very sad about the war. 540 00:35:01,391 --> 00:35:04,758 And he was also preaching a lot. 541 00:35:04,759 --> 00:35:06,842 He would go into, like, rants. 542 00:35:06,843 --> 00:35:08,053 He's, like, yelling. 543 00:35:08,054 --> 00:35:11,080 But everything that came out of his mouth was meaningless. 544 00:35:11,081 --> 00:35:14,867 He was doing really evil [Bleep] to people. 545 00:35:14,868 --> 00:35:18,757 As soon as I walked into this place, I felt really violently ill, 546 00:35:18,758 --> 00:35:21,026 because of all of this. 547 00:35:21,027 --> 00:35:24,119 Meredith, tell Amy about when you were a kid, that incident. 548 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,421 When I was young, maybe 5 or 6. 549 00:35:26,422 --> 00:35:28,570 I was here for a party. 550 00:35:28,571 --> 00:35:33,319 And upstairs I saw a figure walk out of the room, 551 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,500 walk towards the stairway, through the banister and down the stairs. 552 00:35:37,501 --> 00:35:39,174 Hmm. 553 00:35:39,175 --> 00:35:43,847 Well, one of the original owners of this place was a guy named Abraham Hobbs. 554 00:35:43,848 --> 00:35:45,374 Couldn't get a photo of him. 555 00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:49,251 He was a confederate soldier, and got wounded at the Battle of Antietam. 556 00:35:49,252 --> 00:35:51,022 He was a gentleman farmer. 557 00:35:51,023 --> 00:35:54,702 He owned many slaves that did the farm work and housework. 558 00:35:54,703 --> 00:35:56,975 The thing about Hobbs, he was pretty religious, 559 00:35:56,976 --> 00:36:00,217 and very involved in the church here. 560 00:36:00,218 --> 00:36:03,825 He had a half brother named Gaston who lived here with him. 561 00:36:03,826 --> 00:36:08,926 Who was the music teacher in town at the school. 562 00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:13,784 So, Amy, you did a sketch? 563 00:36:13,785 --> 00:36:15,645 Yes. 564 00:36:16,847 --> 00:36:18,378 This is the depressed guy? 565 00:36:18,379 --> 00:36:21,550 Yeah. But I have a theory about the sketch. 566 00:36:21,551 --> 00:36:24,186 Okay, well, we're dying to hear it. 567 00:36:24,187 --> 00:36:27,427 What do you guys think? 568 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,081 This is the depressed guy? 569 00:36:56,082 --> 00:36:59,436 Well, I have a theory about the sketch. 570 00:36:59,437 --> 00:37:03,097 Okay, well, dying to hear it. 571 00:37:04,872 --> 00:37:06,942 What do you guys think? 572 00:37:06,943 --> 00:37:08,803 Wow. 573 00:37:16,779 --> 00:37:18,622 Meredith, what do you think it looks like? 574 00:37:18,623 --> 00:37:22,763 Just going by features individually... 575 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,800 I would say Small. 576 00:37:27,632 --> 00:37:29,341 Kara, what do you think? 577 00:37:29,342 --> 00:37:32,461 Roundness of the nose is... 578 00:37:32,462 --> 00:37:35,702 More resembles, to me... 579 00:37:35,793 --> 00:37:37,302 Suzanne. 580 00:37:37,303 --> 00:37:43,203 You know, to me, this sketch reminds me of a combination of all these people. 581 00:37:43,615 --> 00:37:46,316 That's what I was thinking. That's what I was gonna say. 582 00:37:46,317 --> 00:37:47,921 - Yeah. - Absolutely what I think. 583 00:37:47,922 --> 00:37:50,679 - Is it? - Yes. Yep. 584 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,540 Wow. 585 00:37:52,666 --> 00:37:56,071 (Amy) Now I understand why I sense the presence of more than one man, 586 00:37:56,072 --> 00:37:58,642 but only saw one clearly. 587 00:37:58,643 --> 00:38:02,282 This depressed man has taken all of the death that has occurred here, 588 00:38:02,283 --> 00:38:06,592 and created a single entity that is very dangerous. 589 00:38:06,593 --> 00:38:09,333 The depressed man that I saw... 590 00:38:09,334 --> 00:38:14,496 He looked very similar to this, and he was the one who would... 591 00:38:14,497 --> 00:38:17,507 Put the dead people around the house. 592 00:38:17,508 --> 00:38:21,378 And set their bodies up in positions. 593 00:38:21,379 --> 00:38:25,983 So he would put them in a chair, he would put them in the bed, 594 00:38:25,984 --> 00:38:31,884 and he had a very negative energy, and he really, really, really liked death. 595 00:38:33,067 --> 00:38:38,638 And he's the one who's responsible for turning the house into the house of death. 596 00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:42,183 And I'm getting concerned about what might have happened here... 597 00:38:42,184 --> 00:38:44,927 - Okay. - Or is happening here. 598 00:38:44,928 --> 00:38:47,199 (Amy) Whatever this depressed man did here, 599 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,920 has attracted other men with morbid fascinations to this house. 600 00:38:50,921 --> 00:38:54,897 And when they died here, pieces of them were left behind. 601 00:38:54,898 --> 00:38:59,781 So now you have all these little pieces of fractured people. 602 00:38:59,782 --> 00:39:02,234 Who are becoming one. 603 00:39:02,235 --> 00:39:05,091 And what happens in those types of situations, 604 00:39:05,092 --> 00:39:07,770 is it can become a very, very strong entity. 605 00:39:07,771 --> 00:39:12,991 And then it starts doing really, really bad things. 606 00:39:19,122 --> 00:39:22,239 Well, you've seen the results of the investigation we did. 607 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,747 The most pressing question is, Kara, is it safe, 608 00:39:25,748 --> 00:39:29,915 for you to keep this place open that you love so much? 609 00:39:29,916 --> 00:39:34,716 Um, for that I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 610 00:39:35,994 --> 00:39:40,014 What I feel needs to be done here is... 611 00:39:40,015 --> 00:39:45,067 The first thing is to contact what I like to call a living medium. 612 00:39:45,068 --> 00:39:49,360 Which is someone who connects the living with the dead. 613 00:39:49,361 --> 00:39:52,488 Now the first thing they're going to do is... 614 00:39:52,489 --> 00:39:56,834 They're going to connect Dr. Small hopefully with his lawyer. 615 00:39:56,835 --> 00:39:59,353 Who can be his representative still. 616 00:39:59,354 --> 00:40:03,681 And they would do this upstairs in the hallway on that landing. 617 00:40:03,682 --> 00:40:09,582 Um, and it would just be the medium and the lawyer, and then Dr. Small. 618 00:40:10,312 --> 00:40:14,512 Then the second thing is, uh, Leeman. 619 00:40:15,177 --> 00:40:18,661 The best thing there would be the same type of scenario. 620 00:40:18,662 --> 00:40:23,235 With the medium, upstairs on the landing with you. 621 00:40:23,236 --> 00:40:26,973 And the reason why I say that is because of your reaction in the bathroom, 622 00:40:26,974 --> 00:40:31,863 and I think that there's a reason why that happened. 623 00:40:31,864 --> 00:40:34,707 He does have issues, I'm not gonna lie. 624 00:40:34,708 --> 00:40:40,145 Um, but I think that if you're willing to do this, you can help him. 625 00:40:40,146 --> 00:40:43,721 And you can fix the situation here as well. 626 00:40:43,722 --> 00:40:45,326 Okay. 627 00:40:45,327 --> 00:40:49,106 Then what you're going to want to do is contact a death medium. 628 00:40:49,107 --> 00:40:54,732 Like me, who can come in and do a cleansing from top to bottom, inside and out. 629 00:40:54,733 --> 00:40:58,730 If this is done properly, it should get rid of all the entities that are here. 630 00:40:58,731 --> 00:41:01,076 And hopefully that can be done fairly easily. 631 00:41:01,077 --> 00:41:04,642 If not, there may have to be another session. 632 00:41:04,643 --> 00:41:07,747 Listen, are you okay? This is a lot... a lot of pressure for you. 633 00:41:07,748 --> 00:41:10,181 A little overwhelmed, I'm not gonna lie. 634 00:41:10,182 --> 00:41:13,151 You know, there's a light at the end of this tunnel, though. 635 00:41:13,152 --> 00:41:17,923 If you do do this, and you're strong enough to do it, kids could come back. 636 00:41:17,924 --> 00:41:22,029 Now are you gonna be able to follow through with all of this and help out with this? 637 00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:25,840 We're definitely gonna do what Amy has suggested. 638 00:41:25,841 --> 00:41:28,950 Because we want, you know, everything to end, and... 639 00:41:28,951 --> 00:41:33,151 I'm confident that we can settle it. 640 00:41:34,187 --> 00:41:37,405 (Amy) I really hope that Kara and Ashley follow through with my advice, 641 00:41:37,406 --> 00:41:40,912 and release this house of all the entities that lurk inside. 642 00:41:40,913 --> 00:41:44,214 If they do, I'm confident the staff and visitors here will be 643 00:41:44,215 --> 00:41:50,115 safe from the harm that has been inflicted on so many people. 644 00:41:50,124 --> 00:41:56,024 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. 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