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(Narrator) Tonight on
"Dead Files Revisited"...

I was absolutely spooked.

A second look at some of Amy and
Steve's most terrifying cases.

I was scared.

New information.

There was something creepy.

Startling revelations.

This person was and is real.

First... a return to
Asbury Park, New Jersey...

You must be frightened coming down here.

Where a Restaurant hides
a dangerous entity.

It makes my hair stand up.

Very angry.

Amy exposes evil lurking in the basement.

Have you ever been so scared?

And Steve comes face-to-face
with a murderer.

Did you want to kill him?

Then we travel back to
Vancouver, Washington...

It's crazy.

Where a local theater's sinister past...

That's pretty sick.

Puts innocent children in danger.

Is it safe for those kids
to come into the theater?

But did they listen to Amy?

What do they do if it doesn't stop?

Or did they continue to live in fear?

I haven't been back since.

There's something down there. (Gasps)

My name is Amy Allan.

A lot of dead people are here.

I see dead people.

This is not good.

I speak to dead people...

He is very pissed off.

And they speak to me...

The house is angry.

But there's only way to know
if my findings are real.

He's killed people.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York
City homicide Detective...

He got shot at his house?

And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

Aren't you terrified being here?
It's my job to reveal 'em.

That sounds like something
out of "The Exorcist."

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

Until the very end.

It's bad.

And we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...

I'd like some answers.

Or time to get out.

(Indistinct whispering)

(Eerie music playing)

(Steve) One of the first cases that
Amy and I ever worked on together

was in Asbury Park, New Jersey.

We had gotten a call from Jeffrey,
the owner of Plan B Restaurant.

Both he and his employees were
having strange experiences

none of them could explain.

At that point, this paranormal
thing was still new to me.

I had a lot of doubts.

But by the end of that investigation,
my beliefs took a serious u-turn.

So you're having a little
issue here at the Restaurant?

Just some things have been happening
here that I felt might...

Need some explaining.

I was a little apprehensive
about what they might find.

If something negative came
out of their investigation,

I was concerned what that could do to
business and to morale, the staff.

More than just a few times,
I'll be standing here, and...

I hear my name being called.

Immediately I look around,
because I-I feel like

it should be someone right next to me,
speaking to me, and there's nobody around.

(Police radio chatter)

I'm, like, already starting
to get physical sensations.

(Exhales deeply)

On the drive to the location, I began
to feel an intense amount of pain.

There was, like, two sharp blows.

First I felt in my jaw.

I didn't know what was waiting
for me at the location,

but I already sensed that
it wasn't going to be good.

There is a male here.

Lots of anger here.

(Sighs)

The problem, to him, is women.

Ooh.

A woman hater.

This guy scares me.

(Steve) So what's going on?

The... the scariest thing
for me down here was, um,

one afternoon a friend of
mine and I were down here

trying to get some stuff together,
and, um, as we were walking down

and we were looking back towards
this back wall here, um...

There was a face...

That looked like it was peering
through the 2x4s, looking at us.

Was it a man?

Yeah, it was, it was
definitely a gentleman.

Now you must be frightened
coming down here.

I mean, after I'd seen something like that,
I don't think I'd want to come down.

It's not a place I like to come.

(Man panting)

(Whispering) I really don't
want to go down there.

(Normal voice) I already had an uneasy
feeling inside that Restaurant.

But looking down into the
basement, it only got worse.

I feel like vomiting.

Usually I'm fine.

(Creaks)

I don't know why this is bothering me.

For some reason, I just couldn't get
myself to take that first step.

Have you ever been so freaking scared...

That you throw up?

There's something down there.

Oh, my God.

(Steve) When investigating a business,

I like to talk to the people
who spend the most time there.

In this case it was the head chef.

And from what he told me, nobody felt
safe being inside that Restaurant.

Can you just give me a background
of what happened with you?

I was, uh, upstairs, and I
turned around by the staircase,

and I actually saw a man walk
by and around the corner...

And he kind of turned towards
where the kitchen is

and then just looked like he went right
downstairs, but that's where I lost him.

I saw something, you know?

I, uh, it wasn't me imagining.
It was definitely something.

At the time you...
did you freak out, or it was...

I was absolutely spooked.

(Amy) I guess we should go down, but I
don't really want to go down there.

(Creaks)

It took every bit of strength I had to
force myself to walk down those stairs.

(Bleep, chuckles)

(Sighs)

Looking back, I think part of me knew

I was about to encounter
something very dangerous.

(Clears throat)

It's like a hole, and, um...

(Sighs)

This nasty thing is there.

(Animal growling)

This thing is, like, growling at me.

I'm not getting, like, a human,
like, form with this thing.

This thing is, like...

Evil.

Ow, it's hurting my arm.

What is it?

Hmm...

Well, um...

I guess that the closest thing
that I could relate it to...

Would be...

A demon.

Coming up next...

He was in jail.

Steve confronts a cold-blooded killer.

You just wanted to make a point by hitting
him upside the head with a hammer.

And in our second investigation,

we return to a theater that's
threatening its patrons.

I want the children safe.

Did they follow Amy's advice?

- Oh, my gosh.
- That needs to stop.

(Indistinct whispering)

(Steve) It didn't take long to discover

that Plan B Restaurant in Asbury
Park, New Jersey, had a tragic past.

Within minutes of starting my research, I
uncovered a brutal homicide from 1997.

Back when the building was an antique shop.

The crime was recent enough
that I was able to track down

the detectives who worked the case.

I knew they would have details
that newspapers didn't.

(Eerie music playing)

We responded about 6:00 PM in
the evening on, uh, April 29th,

and, uh, there was a body in the basement
of the building on Cookman Avenue.

Ray Johnson was 72 years old.

He was the owner and operator of
When I Was A Child Collectibles,

which was the scene of the crime.

Uh, it was a pretty
gruesome scene at the time.

Anything you can remember
specifically about the body?

Mr. Johnson's head was
bludgeoned with a hammer.

(Camera shutter clicks)

- This is our perp?
- That is. That's, uh, Moses Farrow.

He was ultimately arrested and
charged with the homicide of Ray.

What can you tell me about Moses?

Moses was 20 years old at the time.

Uh, he was homeless.

He worked for Ray for about
three or four days prior.

In his statement to us, he talks
about Ray coming up behind him

and grabbing his buttocks.

And he turns around, hits
Ray once with the hammer.

He hits him a second time, and
Ray goes down to the ground,

and then he stands over him and
hits him more in the head,

while he's down on the ground.
(Camera shutter clicks)

(Amy) Vile.

Something happened here.

Something with my...
the right side of my face, on my jaw.

Walking into the kitchen, I encountered
the energy of an angry man.

I wasn't sure at the time, but I thought

he might have been connected to
the violence in the basement.

(Sighs)

His energy is here.

It's very, very solid energy.

But it's not like I'm talking to...

Him.

He's not here.

His energy is here, but do you
know if he is dead himself?

I don't think so.

(Steve) I'd uncovered a
lot about Ray's murder.

But the one thing I still
didn't know was the motive.

Only the murderer himself could
tell me why he killed Ray.

And I didn't stand a chance of getting the
truth if I didn't look him in the eye.

(Eerie music playing)

Why don't you just bring me to what brought
you to that point on Cookman Avenue?

I was working there. One day I was in the
basement, pulling nails out of wood.

While I bent over to pull a nail
out of the wood with the hammer,

and Raymond Johnson walked
past me and grabbed my ass,

so I just hit him upside
the head with the hammer.

Did you want to kill him, or did
you just want to make a point

by hitting him upside
the head with a hammer?

Just to make a point. Don't touch me.

You made your point nine or ten times.
You know that, right?

I do not like this person at all.

Mmm. He was in jail.

There was time done there.

For what?

Robbery, burglary.

Where was he in prison?

(Sighs) Not far.

Not far.

When you look at your record, this came
out of nowhere, this... this murder.

It wasn't planned.

Did you have thoughts of
doing that to s... anybody

or even him prior to that happening?

No.

You'd never done anything violent in the
past before this incident with Raymond?

Mmm-mmm.

(Exhales deeply)

I don't know what brought me to that point.

(Amy) The demon gets
angry, very, very angry.

I think it influences...

It wreaks havoc.

(Matt) How does it wreak havoc?

It was clear to me the
Restaurant had a violent past,

and the demon was at the center of it all.

But I felt the violent man in the
kitchen was the demon's puppet.

And I knew he was still alive.

So I sketched him.

(Eerie music playing)

His nose is, like...

Flat, kind of like a boxer's nose.

- Like a punch smushed it.
- Okay.

Like, I'm feeling the anger now from him.

He's right there.

And he's yelling at me to
shut the (Bleep) Up, (Bleep).

(Voice breaks) I don't like him.

(Sighs)

- Okay.
- You all right?

- Next...
- And he just beat him in the head.

Amy and Steve reveal their
disturbing findings.

This has me freaked out.

But did the client follow Amy's advice?

I just couldn't stop.

(Steve) Jeff's the reason we're here.

He, uh, he owns the Restaurant.

Uh, he's having some
unexplained events happen...

- To him, your staff.
- Yes.

(Jeffrey) I wasn't 100%
sure what to expect.

I was anxious more because I wanted to know

what the result was.
I wanted to know what the findings were.

When I got to the back of the Restaurant.

I encountered a male energy,
and this male was very angry.

We're talking about excessive amounts of
rage and anger and hatred and just...

A very bad person that dwells...

- Right.
- In this.

And he was, like, stocky build.

He also had, with his nose, the
bridge was basically smushed in.

I got that he was in prison.

Um, there's robbery,
burglary, and weapons there.

The other thing is I think that
this individual is still alive.

This still blows my mind.

Amy was describing Moses Farrow
right down to his criminal record.

Not only that, she also
knew he wasn't dead.

If I had to pick a single moment
when I knew she was the real deal,

this might be it.

About 14 years ago there was a
male fitting that description

that did work in this building, okay,

so I'm gonna show you a photo
of who I think it may be.

You take a look at it.

Right.

And, Amy, what are you feeling
when you see this photo?

(Clears throat)

Sick to my stomach.

It's making me uncomfortable.

(Amy) It was hard to look at that photo,

because that was the angry
man I had seen and sketched.

(Steve) Maybe we'll compare
and see what we got.

Wow. All right.

It's... it's...

Uncanny how close it is.

That's... really frightening.

(Jeffrey) That was kind of freaky how
Moses, who's still alive, left his energy

through a grievous act in the place.

I'm glad to know he's in jail.

It's him.

So who's this?

About 14 years ago this
was an antique shop.

Uh, it was owned by a man
named Raymond Johnson.

Okay.

He was nice enough to
bring this individual,

- Moses Farrow, who was homeless...
- Mm.

He brought him in, fed
him, put him to work.

According to Moses, Raymond did
a sexual advance towards him,

and he turned around with the
hammer that he had in his hand,

and he just beat him in the head.

- Oh, my God.
- Wow.

That's, like, making some sense to me.

In the basement, I did feel
an extreme amount of pain,

um, specifically the right jaw, and
then it, it went to the whole, um,

right side of the head.

And he was apprehended, did go to trial,

and he is incarcerated currently in Trenton
State Prison, maybe an hour from here.

I guess for me, if I knew it was
someone that wasn't still alive,

that I'd have an easier time dealing
with it, but someone who's still alive

makes me very uncomfortable.

(Amy) I explained to Jeffrey that
Moses' residual energy wasn't a threat.

But I knew it was going to
be difficult to tell him

about the evil presence
that lived in the basement.

I went back into the basement.

And all of sudden there
was kind of this void.

And I looked...

And I saw this little...

Dark mass.

This thing has been here
for hundreds of years.

In the Catholic religion, these types of
things would be referred to as a demon.

They're extremely rare.

I've only encountered them
in a handful of situations.

It's capable of manipulating an
individual's thoughts and emotions,

taking the opportunity to latch onto
a person who is ready to snap...

- Oh, my God.
- And then letting them go for it.

Whoa.

So whatever entity you're talking
about might have caused our...

Yes.

Who was already an emotional
wreck to begin with.

Correct. Yes.

(Jeffrey) What Amy said
about the demon and Moses

began to make me think, could this
thing, this entity be affecting me?

Amy, this has me really freaked out.

I've been hit pretty hard
for the past five years.

And, um, can this be affecting
me inside these four walls...

- Yes.
- And can it follow me,

outside these four walls?

Um, yes to both.

I want to tell you you have options.

This thing right now is using negativity...

To feed and grow itself.

You don't have to give it that.

You have the power now to get rid of it.

So what do I do to try to...

I guess, annihilate this?

I will show you what needs to be done,

but you have to promise me that you
will continue it here and at your home

for the benefit of yourself
and your employees.

(Eerie music playing)

(Jeffrey) Amy suggested that I
continuously cleanse the Restaurant.

And I did it once or twice.

She also suggested I do it at home.

And in retrospect I probably should have.

There were a lot of things that
were spiraling out of control,

some relationship things, family
things, financial things,

and no matter what I tried
to do, I just couldn't stop.

That ties into the things that
Amy had told me about the demon.

I didn't get rid of it.

Maybe it even became stronger.

So I closed the Restaurant.

(Lock clicks)

One of the things that I did
after closing the Restaurant

was get my apartment cleansed.

I brought in a psychic medium.

A short period of time after
the cleansing, I feel better.

And I see a positive track
rather than a negative track.

(Amy) I'm relieved that Jeffrey is
finally taking my advice seriously.

The cleansing might be enough to
keep the demon out of his home,

but this creature is strong.

If Jeffrey doesn't stay vigilant,

there's a chance the demon
could always come back.

(Eerie music playing)

(Steve) Amy and I get calls from
businesses more often than you'd think.

But the Slocum House Theatre
in Vancouver, Washington,

was the first one where the people
being targeted were children.

The people who ran the theater called us,

because every time they'd
perform for the kids,

weird, unexplained things would happen.

And the theater's Director Rebecca

was worried that even if they
managed to stay in business,

any kids willing to show
up might be in danger.

We've noticed that the activity
has increased recently,

and, uh, mostly when the kids are here.

And I think it's frightening the kids.

We usually have two classes
of kids in the summertime,

and this year we didn't
have any sign up at all.

And I think they're just
frightened to be here.

(Rebecca) The kids... they see things.

And I don't know if they're
more attuned to it.

But they see things, and
they're frightened.

They're... they're afraid.

Uh, what kind of things are going on?

We've had apparitions, um,
voices, um, things being moved.

You know, a little bit of everything.

Okay. Are you ever
frightened when you're here?

Yeah.

Why would you stay here?

- It's my job.
- Okay. But your concern is for the kids.

That's my main concern.
I want the children safe.

(Eerie music playing)

Before I even walked into the theater,

I could feel the strong presence of
children, which always disturbs me.

Kids shouldn't be stuck in some
old building after they die.

They need to move on.

There's, like, chil... a lot of children.

They're running around and
being happy and happy.

Everything's fine and, uh...

But it's not. It's really not.

And it's all...

Um, really messed up.

- Next...
- Did it scare the kids?

- Oh, yeah.
- Amy confronts a frightening entity.

Someone here hates children.

And is it safe to go back
into the Slocum House?

I was frightened.

On "Dead Files Revisited."

That's pretty sick.

(Indistinct whispering)

Amy and I investigated the Slocum House
Theatre in Vancouver, Washington.

The theater's Director felt the activity

was threatening the
children who come to visit.

(Steve) Uh, so, Rebecca,
this is the theater?

- Yeah.
- Okay, what happens here?

There was this one time where
the children were here,

and we turn off all of the lights,

and they recite their lines
to make sure they know them.

And as they were doing that,
they were looking on the stage,

and there were lights
flying all over the place.

- And what did it look like to you?
- Actually, it looked...

Kind of looked like fireflies or something.

- Did it scare the kids?
- Oh, yeah. They were frightened.

There's a lot of kids here.

I don't like that if they're dead.

I have a hard time communicating
with dead children

because I get distracted
by their suffering.

It's something I've been working
on as a medium, but it takes time.

Like, how many kids?

- 10 to 20 kids.
- And are they all from the same period?

- Like, are they all interacting and...
- Yeah, yeah.

They're just being loud and running around,
kind of torturing the adults here.

They're just acting crazy.

(Steve) It wasn't difficult
finding witnesses

who had unexplained
experiences in that theater.

There were plenty of 'em.

And Kim, the theater assistant,
claimed that she could actually I.D.

One of the apparitions she'd seen.

Have you experienced
anything or seen anything?

Yeah, I was closing, uh, the cellar door...

And a man, very distinctly,
in a brown suit.

Short cut, steel-gray hair, kind of stocky.

Walking directly under there.

And I said, "hey, what are you doing?"

Because I thought it was somebody
downstairs taking a tour.

And I looked around, and
there was nobody down here.

(Amy) Oh, uh, I don't like it.

What's wrong?

Someone here hates children.

Hates 'em.

I was already having trouble dealing

with all the dead children
wandering around the theater.

But then things got worse.

There was something I saw that scared me.

And it went down.

It got sucked into the ground.

It was a big guy, I think. A big guy.

He is kind of scary, this guy.

He's like 7 feet tall.

He's huge, and he's, like, really broad...

A big, broad guy.

He doesn't like children.

He might be aggressive.

And he, like, shakes 'em sometimes.

(Steve) So far I had two theater employees

describe some pretty terrifying
paranormal activity.

Then I contacted the former Stage Manager.

And after hearing what he'd experienced,
I'm not surprised that he quit.

- Did you have anything happen here?
- I will hear my name being called,

usually from this point,
from the greenroom.

I was really worried when I first met Steve
that he was gonna think I was crazy.

It won't be like a...
(Quiets voice) "Hey, Shaun."

(Normal voice) It'll be, "hey, Shaun."

And there's nobody here.

But after a couple minutes of talking with
him, I was reassured that I'd be okay.

What else happened?

I've seen a man in the men's dressing room.

He's standing in the window,
almost to greet you.

- Shaun, if you had a kid...
- Mm-hmm.

A young kid, would you let them come here?

Probably not.

(Eerie music playing)

This big guy, you know...

And, you know, if there's a sensitive,
occasionally, they're gonna see him.

But he was a pretty... pretty stocky guy.

(Amy) Most people would see this
man the way he projected himself,

as a 7-foot-tall monster, but
I could see his true form.

And he, uh, he was probably like 5'7...

Oh. He's old.

And he, uh, is tired of children,
because he thought they were rotten.

He initially liked children,
and then he grew to hate them.

There's some mental illness here.

Yeah, crazy. "Crazy" in big letters.

- What does that mean?
- It's just "crazy" in big letters.

- That's what I see. "Crazy."
- Where do you see that?

Like, just words written on a plaque.

"Crazy."

Coming up next, Steve
uncovers a bloody massacre.

He winds up killing both. (Gunshot)

And for the first time...

What happened after the investigation?

We needed to feel safe.

(Indistinct whispering)

(Steve) Amy and I were investigating

the Slocum House Theatre
in Vancouver, Washington.

Our client said that the
activity had gotten so bad

children were terrified to
go inside the building.

I figured a historic landmark like
this, it's gotta have an unusual past.

That turned out to be a
serious understatement.

The Slocum House was built by Charles
and Laura Slocum in the late 1870s.

You can tell, they're
obviously well-to-do people,

and I can imagine them, when
they first got married,

being really, really happy together,
buying that big, huge house lot,

and then ten years later,

starting to build their dream
house for a whole bunch of kids.

And yet, as life went on, they
didn't have any children.

Obviously, the house is
built for a large family.

It... it was.

And... and Charles was gone a lot,
and so she was really kind of stuck,

and she more or less adopted all the
neighborhood children as surrogates.

I think any occasion she could find,
she would bring the children in.

(Eerie music playing)

(Amy) This one lady, she was...

She was trapped, um, and
didn't like her life,

and, uh, uh, there's, like, chil...
a lot of children.

I don't know if they're
dead unwanted brats.

Aren't the kids a part of this family here?

- Nope.
- They come from somewhere else?

Yeah.

Do you know what the reason was
why they didn't have any kids?

No, I honestly don't know, uh,
but Charles was away a lot.

I mean, he had business interests all the
way into Idaho and places like that.

This man, he just wants to be
away, and so he goes away a lot.

He's unhappy that, uh, this
is how his life turned out.

(Steve) Kim and Shaun were seeing the
apparition of a man in the theater.

So I tried to I.D. every male whose death
was somehow connected to that theater.

That's when I pulled up the property
records and found Amos Short.

He and his wife Esther owned the
land where the theater now sits.

I also found reports of
a bloody altercation.

A local historian was able to
help me fill in the blanks.

What do you know about
Amos and Esther Short?

Well, Amos and Esther Short came out on...

On the Oregon trail.

They eventually had, I
think it was 12 children.

And they filed a land claim, uh,
where that house is located now,

but there were competing, uh, individuals
and organizations for that land.

The Hudson's Bay Company was here,
and they wanted the Shorts to leave.

And when he was gone, Esther was harassed.

It was an individual, Doctor Gardner,

and a Hawaiian gentleman from
the Hudson's Bay Company.

They harassed her on a regular basis, uh,
destroyed their agricultural fields,

and they burned her cabin down three times.

I mean, there was a lot of harassment here.

Gardner and his assistant,
uh, come onto the property.

They have a confrontation with Amos, and
then he gives them a verbal warning,

asking them to leave.

And then the shooting happens.

- And he winds up killing both of them.
- Right.

There was a-a big event.

Someone's lost and people
are running all over.

Inside the house, there's a panic.

There was someone here who
was a Doctor at some point.

And this educated man did not like women...

Didn't like them at all.

(Amy) Now I had encountered two threatening
men lingering in the theater...

The 7-foot-tall man who hates children
and the educated man who dislikes women.

Since I got a clearer
look at the educated man,

I decided to sketch him for the reveal.

There was a male.

He had a heart-shaped face.

Sort of like that?

Yes.

Next, the sketch draws a shocking reaction.

Holy crap, this is who I'm seeing.

And did they listen to Amy?

It was kind of devastating.

(Indistinct whispering)

Well, guys, this is my partner Amy.

The night of the reveal
I was a little scared.

I hadn't met Amy before.

I had no idea what she had found.

In fact, I had no idea
if she'd found anything.

So I was a little frightened.

They run a theater show for the kids.

Whenever kids are in the theater, activity
in the house goes through the roof.

They're worried about the kids
and to see if they're safe.

(Amy) I got upset hearing that children
were being affected by paranormal activity.

I'm especially sensitive to it,
because I struggled with this

throughout most of my childhood.

I'm gonna turn it over to Amy and
find out what happened on her walk.

Well, the first thing was a real sense
of despair and depression and loss.

And then I met this younger
female who was feeling this way.

She was missing her husband.

- He was always gone and traveling and...
- (Rebecca) Hmm.

I think she really, really loved him a lot.

(Steve) It still surprises me whenever
Amy hits on something so specific.

The husband and wife that Amy described

sounded exactly like Charles and Laura
Slocum, the couple who built the house.

He used to go away a lot for
business and then come back.

She used to do a lot of events in the
house for the kids in the neighborhood.

Apparently, uh, it filled the
void of not having kids.

So, Amy, what else did
you see on your walk?

I came into contact with
residual imprints of children.

And there were at least ten of them.

We tend to hear noises,
especially when kids are present,

I also saw the educated man.

He hated women.

To me Amy was describing Doctor
Gardner, the guy from the trading

company who tried to force Amos
and Esther Short off their land.

When Amos would go off on business,
Esther was left alone with the ten kids.

Hudson Bay Company did
everything they could

to get rid of her.
They destroyed the crops.

They burned their cabin three times.

That's pretty sick.

Shaun, tell Amy about the
guy you see in the window.

Every time I walk in to the
side door of the theater,

a man is standing there watching me.

And it's just this Wyatt Earp-looking man.

Amy, you sketched one of
the men you saw, right?

Yes. Um, I sketched the educated man.

Let's take a look at the sketch.

That's who I see.

When I first saw the sketch, I
was, holy crap, this is it.

This is who I'm seeing.

Everything about this sketch is spot-on.

This person was and is real.

That's the man that
watches me in the window.

At one point, Amos
was home, and...

Two men came again,

to try to get him off the
property, and he killed both men.

And it happened right outside
the door of the house.

- Oh, my gosh.
- Wow.

Once you know all of that horrible stuff,

it changes your perception about the
property itself, kind of in a bad way.

(Steve) Now both of them worked
for the Hudson Bay Company.

One guy was named Doctor Gardner, and,
uh, his assistant, a Hawaiian guy.

Unfortunately, there is no
photo of Doctor David Gardner.

He died in 1850.

Hardly anybody's picture
was taken back then.

But it's obvious that you
and Amy saw the same guy.

That's him.

Yeah.

(Amy) I'm always eager for evidence that
either proves or contradicts what I see.

So I was disappointed that there wasn't a
photo of Doctor Gardner for us to compare.

But in the end, the Doctor
wasn't the one to worry about.

I felt the biggest danger was
his assistant, the 7-foot man.

I have a problem with the 7-foot man.

(Rebecca) So was he 7 feet tall, or
was he just presenting himself...

- He was just presenting...
- In life, he was like 5'7...

- Okay.
- But in death, he's 7 feet tall.

I think he needs a stern talking-to,
because he is being a hypocrite.

He is saying he wants to be left alone...

And yet he's harassing...

People. So that needs to stop.

Then go down there as a group and be like,
"that's your space, you hang out there.

"We'll respect that, if you respect us.

If you don't respect us, then
you're gonna have to go."

But the most pressing question is,

is it safe for those kids
to come into the theater?

(Eerie music playing)

(Rebecca) Amy told us it was
safe for the kids to be there.

But the Slocum House has this
dark, oppressive energy.

And we were hoping to get away from that.

So a couple of weeks after the
investigation, we decided to move.

And it was, uh...

It was kind of devastating to leave.

But we needed to feel safe.

At the new space things are looking up.

We still have a ways to go.

So far we haven't noticed
anything, but who knows?

(Amy) Sometimes it's hard for
people to stay somewhere

once they learn what's really going on.

So I can understand why Rebecca
and her staff left the theater.

But that means the 7-foot-tall
man still remains.

So my advice to the next tenant is be
ready to put this guy in his place.

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