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Subs created by: David Coleman.
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A lot of sadness here.
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People here didn't want them.
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They were, in life, unwanted brats.
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Did it scare the kids?
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Oh, yeah. They were frightened.
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There was something
I saw that scared me.
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You could see what looked
like a head peeking out.
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If you had a kid, would
you let them come here?
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Probably not.
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Things are really messed up.
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There's something down there.
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My name..
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Is Amy Allan.
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A lot of dead people are here.
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I see dead people.
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This is not good.
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I speak to dead people.
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He is very pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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The house is angry.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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He's killed people.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Dischiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide Detective.
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He got shot at his house?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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Aren't you terrified, being here?
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It's my job to reveal 'em.
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That sounds like something
out of The Exorcist.
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But Steve and I never speak..
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We never communicate
during an investigation..
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Until the very end..
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That's bad.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay..
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I'd like some answers.
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Or time to get out.
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Amy and I work independently
from one another.
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It's my job to sort fact from fiction
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with interviews, research,
and hard evidence.
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I received a call from
a woman named Rebecca
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who works at the Slocum House
Theatre in Vancouver, Washington.
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Apparently, there's some strange
things going on in the building.
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But her biggest concern is the kids.
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They come there to see a theater show,
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and apparently, she
thinks they're in danger.
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I'm gonna try to find
out what's going on.
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As I approach this location,
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before I even open and invite
the dead to communicate with me,
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I begin to get images
flashing through my mind.
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Before Amy enters, I remove anything
that could influence her investigation.
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This theater contains a lot of
information that could be leading.
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I take my time to remove everything so
the building is ready for tonight's walk.
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A lot of sadness here.
A lot of sadness here.
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Things are really messed up. Um..
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Uh, there's, like,
chil.. A lot of children.
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Every medium has something
that just creeps them out.
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And for me, it's dead children.
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Sometimes I try to tune them out,
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but there are just too many
in this place to avoid them.
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They're running around
and being happy and happy.
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Everything's fine and, uh..
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But it's not. It's really not.
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And it's all..
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Um, really messed up.
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The Slocum House is Vancouver's
oldest community theater.
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And after 20 years of being
the company's vice president,
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Rebecca's grown very concerned
about the safety of the children.
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So I'm going to meet with her and
see how Amy and I can help out.
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Why do you need me and Amy to come in?
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We've noticed that the
activity has increased recently.
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And, uh, mostly when the kids are here.
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And I think it's frightening the kids.
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We usually have two classes
of kids in the summertime,
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and this year we didn't
have any sign up at all.
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And I think they're just
frightened to be here.
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Uh, what kind of things are going on?
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We've had apparitions, um,
voices, um, things being moved.
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You know, a little bit of everything.
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Okay. Are you ever
frightened when you're here?
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Yeah.
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Why would you stay here?
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It's my job.
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Okay.
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But your concern is for the kids.
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Absolutely for the kids.
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It dramatically increases
when the kids are here.
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- Okay.
- That's my main concern.
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I want the children safe.
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Okay.
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There's a lot of kids here.
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I don't like that if they're dead.
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Mm-hmm. Like, how many kids?
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10 to 20 kids.
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And are they all from the same period?
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- Like, are they all interacting and..
- Yeah, yeah.
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They're just being loud and running
around, kind of torturing the adults here.
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They're just acting crazy.
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Uh, so, Rebecca, this is the theater?
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Yeah.
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Okay, what happens here?
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We were doing a show, and just as we
were going for a curtain call and bowing,
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there was a vase of
flowers on a bookshelf,
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and it flew off and landed center stage.
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But was anybody there?
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Nobody was there. We
were all up front bowing.
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So I guess the audience sees this.
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Yeah, the audience did see it.
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What else happens in this room?
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There was this one time
where the children were here,
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and we turn off all of the lights
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and they recite their lines
to make sure they know them.
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And as they were doing that,
they were looking on the stage,
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and there were lights
flying all over the place.
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And what did it look like to you?
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Actually, it looked.. Kind of
looked like fireflies or something.
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And it had nothing to do with
production lights or anything like that?
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No, no, no, it was totally dark in here.
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We turned all the lights off.
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Did it scare the kids?
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Oh, yeah. They were frightened.
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People here didn't want them.
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Their families didn't like 'em either.
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Mm-hmm.
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They were, in life, unwanted brats.
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They were..
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Spoiled or, like, rotten, rotten.
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Did they live here or
did they just come..
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I don't know. I don't know.
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I wonder why ** oh
and, there's bunk beds.
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Bunk beds.
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Oh.
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Why? Why would you do this?
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There's, like, six..
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Six of them.
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Six what?
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Girls.
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Things are really messed up.
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So, Rebecca, what happens down in here?
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Um, I've heard children laughing.
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- In the basement here?
- Yes, in the basement.
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- Were there any kids in the building?
- No, no.
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This was late at night.
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It.. It sounded like there was
two or three kids in the corner.
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And like they were playing a
game and laughing with each other.
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And I.. I looked. Of course,
there was nothing there.
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So is there anything else you
might have heard or seen down here?
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I was down here by myself and I saw
something shoot across in the back corner
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as if it were trying to
hide from me or something.
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It looked like a younger teenage girl.
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That's interesting. Okay.
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I hear someone running.
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A girl running down this hallway.
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There's a young girl, uh, and
she's yelling at another girl.
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They're teenagers.
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She wants her to leave her
alone, and she's a stupid [Beep].
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There's, like, three s..
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Three sisters.
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There's one in particular, um..
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And she's probably, like, 18 or
something, and blonde hair, brown eyes.
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She's, like, 5'2..
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And she's crying a lot.
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What can you tell me about the house
that could help me in my investigation?
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This is not the original
location of the house.
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The house was actually located about
a block over and down a little bit.
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And we had it moved here in 1966.
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So we're really close to where it was.
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Exactly, yeah.
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What about this basement?
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At the old site, there was no basement.
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This we did.
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This was all underground.
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Well, I guess.. Do this.
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Oh, uh..
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I don't like it.
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What's wrong?
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I don't know. I don't like it in here.
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I, like, felt like I
walked through a wall.
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Oh.
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And then I got scared, because I..
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There was something
I saw that scared me.
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Someone here hates children.
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Hates 'em.
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There was something I saw..
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That scared me.
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And it went down.
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It got sucked into the ground.
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It was a big guy, I think. A big guy.
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Yeah, uh..
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I don't like him, and that
kind of made me nervous.
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So the guy went in the..
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Into the floor..
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Uh, over in here.
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And he's running because he
doesn't want to be bothered.
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He is kinda scary, this guy.
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He's like 7 feet tall.
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He's huge, and he's,
like, really broad..
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A big, broad guy.
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Kim, thanks for meeting with me.
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Uh, I spoke with Rebecca.
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Uh, she told me what was going on
and some of the concerns she has.
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Have you experienced
anything or seen anything?
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Yeah, um, mostly, I don't like
coming down to the basement by myself,
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because it just makes me
feel really nervous down here.
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I was closing, uh, the cellar door,
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and a man, very distinctly, in a
brown suit, short cut, steel-gray hair,
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kind of stocky, walking
directly under there,
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and I said, "hey, what are you doing?"
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Because I thought it was
somebody downstairs taking a tour.
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And I looked around, and
there was nobody down here.
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Anything else that you've
seen in the basement?
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There's a.. A.. An old air vent
that's, um, right in the ceiling here.
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And I cover it with a piece of paper
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when I'm doing a show
because it makes me nervous.
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It feels like, you know,
things kind of seep up into it
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and mess with my lights.
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Th.. Things don't work properly
when, you know, when I'm up there.
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This big guy, you know..
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And, you know, if there's a sensitive,
occasionally, they're gonna see him.
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And he, uh, he was probably like 5'7..
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But he was a pretty.. Pretty stocky guy.
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In death, entities can project
themselves the way they want to be seen.
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The 7-foot man I
encountered in the basement
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was really only 5'7 when he was alive.
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He doesn't like children.
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He might be aggressive.
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And he, like, shakes 'em sometimes.
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There's a really
uncomfortable feeling up here.
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The men's costume room right behind you,
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I always feel like there's a man
in there or there's a male presence.
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It's.. It's.. I just feel
like I'm being followed.
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Did you ever experience anything?
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Yes, one time during a show, um, we
could hear what sounded like kids running,
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um, things getting knocked
over, shoes dropping.
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So we came up to investigate and
we didn't see anybody up here,
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but the two other people I was
with, um, were looking down the hall,
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and they could see what looked
like a head, you know, peeking out.
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Kim, I don't understand.
You're.. You're..
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- Uncomfortable in the basement.
- Right.
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- You're uncomfortable
up here. - Mm-hmm.
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There's things going
on in the theater level.
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Why would you stay here?
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I.. I come here because I
like doing what I'm doing.
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And it's one of those pride things,
you're not gonna let it beat you.
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I'm getting really mad.
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You're getting what?
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- Angry.
- Why?
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Because they're not being clear about..
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What they want.
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Shaun, I understand you were the
stage manager here at some point.
252
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That's correct.
253
00:16:36,882 --> 00:16:38,472
Let me ask you a question
about Rebecca and Kim.
254
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I mean, are.. Are they legit?
They crazy? What's the story?
255
00:16:41,775 --> 00:16:44,234
Nothing about them, to
me, would seem crazy.
256
00:16:44,235 --> 00:16:45,452
Okay.
257
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Do you, uh, know, if, uh, when kids
have been present, has anything happened
258
00:16:49,521 --> 00:16:50,353
once the kids are here?
259
00:16:50,354 --> 00:16:53,169
When the kids are here, it
definitely wakes the house up.
260
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Did you have anything happen here?
261
00:16:54,714 --> 00:17:00,614
I will hear my name being called, usually
from this point, from the greenroom.
262
00:17:01,507 --> 00:17:03,010
It won't be like a, "hey, Shaun. "
263
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- It'll be..
- "Hey, Shaun. "
264
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And there's nobody here.
265
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What else happened?
266
00:17:10,096 --> 00:17:13,726
I've seen a man in the
men's dressing room.
267
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He's standing in the
window, almost to greet you.
268
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- Shaun, if you had
a kid.. - Mm-hmm.
269
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A young kid, would
you let them come here?
270
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Probably not.
271
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It's an old man.
272
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Ooh. He's old.
273
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And he, uh, is tired of children,
because he thought they were rotten.
274
00:17:36,994 --> 00:17:40,088
All I know is that old
man didn't like 'em.
275
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He initially liked children.
276
00:17:42,854 --> 00:17:46,070
And then he grew to hate them.
277
00:17:46,071 --> 00:17:47,748
There's some mental illness here.
278
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Yeah, crazy.
279
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"Crazy" in big letters.
280
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- What does that mean?
- It's just "crazy"
281
00:17:51,861 --> 00:17:53,403
in big letters. That's what I see.
282
00:17:53,404 --> 00:17:54,275
"Crazy. "
283
00:17:54,276 --> 00:17:56,150
Where do you see that?
284
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Like, just words written on a plaque.
285
00:17:58,588 --> 00:18:00,688
"Crazy. "
286
00:18:11,853 --> 00:18:13,543
There's some mental illness here.
287
00:18:13,544 --> 00:18:14,816
Yeah, crazy.
288
00:18:14,817 --> 00:18:17,250
"Crazy" in big letters.
289
00:18:17,251 --> 00:18:19,351
"Crazy. "
290
00:18:23,778 --> 00:18:26,563
There are plenty of crazy
sightings at the Slocum Theatre.
291
00:18:26,564 --> 00:18:28,808
But before I start
digging into its past,
292
00:18:28,809 --> 00:18:31,756
I want to make sure there's nothing
structurally wrong with the house.
293
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That might cause things
to just move on their own.
294
00:18:34,322 --> 00:18:36,551
It's a long shot, but I've
called in a building inspector
295
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to give the house a once-over.
296
00:18:40,967 --> 00:18:42,540
Kurt, thanks for coming out to meet me.
297
00:18:42,541 --> 00:18:43,554
Absolutely.
298
00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:46,815
There's claims of objects moving
from one side of a room to another,
299
00:18:46,816 --> 00:18:49,422
stuff falling off shelves for no reason.
300
00:18:49,423 --> 00:18:51,624
What I need to find out,
and I know it's a long shot,
301
00:18:51,625 --> 00:18:54,605
is if there's anything structurally
in this house that would cause that.
302
00:18:54,606 --> 00:18:57,556
For something to move
all the way across a room,
303
00:18:57,557 --> 00:18:59,680
we'd have to have
something pretty dramatic.
304
00:18:59,681 --> 00:19:05,321
I would think we'd be able
to find that if it's here.
305
00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,735
With over 20 years on
the police Department,
306
00:19:13,736 --> 00:19:15,943
I know that you have to
rule out the obvious first.
307
00:19:15,944 --> 00:19:18,859
Since the house was moved,
I'm hoping that'll explain
308
00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:23,000
why things have been shifting around.
309
00:19:35,744 --> 00:19:37,383
So, Kurt, what did you find out?
310
00:19:37,384 --> 00:19:43,284
Well, I didn't find anything that would
justify the items falling off shelves
311
00:19:43,477 --> 00:19:45,854
or being moved from one
side of the room to another.
312
00:19:45,855 --> 00:19:50,809
We have some slight areas of
unevenness that are not level,
313
00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:52,601
but nothing like you're describing.
314
00:19:52,602 --> 00:19:54,042
So there's nothing extreme here.
315
00:19:54,043 --> 00:19:56,683
Nothing extreme.
316
00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:00,922
Now that I know the Slocum
Theatre is structurally sound,
317
00:20:00,923 --> 00:20:03,843
I've gotta start digging
into who lived and died here.
318
00:20:03,844 --> 00:20:09,744
So I'm going to speak with a local
writer who knows this town inside and out.
319
00:20:14,687 --> 00:20:16,335
Jeff, thanks for taking
the time to meet with me.
320
00:20:16,336 --> 00:20:17,671
I appreciate it.
321
00:20:17,672 --> 00:20:20,609
Uh, I know you've written
several books, uh, about
322
00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:22,186
the Vancouver, Washington, area.
323
00:20:22,187 --> 00:20:24,853
My interest is in the
Slocum House Theatre.
324
00:20:24,854 --> 00:20:27,028
I was wondering if you
could help me out with that.
325
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:32,458
The Slocum House was built by Charles
and Laura Slocum in the late 1870s.
326
00:20:32,459 --> 00:20:35,260
You know, you can tell, they're
obviously well-to-do people,
327
00:20:35,261 --> 00:20:36,905
and I can imagine them,
when they first got married,
328
00:20:36,906 --> 00:20:40,934
being really, really happy together,
buying that big, huge house lot,
329
00:20:40,935 --> 00:20:43,832
and then ten years later,
starting to build their dream house
330
00:20:43,833 --> 00:20:46,934
for a whole bunch of kids
and cousins and things.
331
00:20:46,935 --> 00:20:49,784
And yet, as life went on,
they didn't have any children.
332
00:20:49,785 --> 00:20:51,991
Obviously, the house is
built for a large family.
333
00:20:51,992 --> 00:20:53,073
It.. It was.
334
00:20:53,074 --> 00:20:57,846
And.. And Charles was gone a lot,
and so she was really kind of stuck,
335
00:20:57,847 --> 00:21:01,352
and she more or less adopted all the
neighborhood children as surrogates.
336
00:21:01,353 --> 00:21:03,672
So there would be birthday
parties all the time,
337
00:21:03,673 --> 00:21:05,819
and little plays for the children,
338
00:21:05,820 --> 00:21:11,720
and.. And I think any occasion she could
find, she would bring the children in.
339
00:21:14,718 --> 00:21:18,018
This one lady, she was..
340
00:21:18,641 --> 00:21:21,126
She was trapped, um,
and didn't like her life,
341
00:21:21,127 --> 00:21:26,129
and, uh, uh, there's like
chil.. A lot of children.
342
00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:29,137
I don't know if they're
dead unwanted brats.
343
00:21:29,138 --> 00:21:31,070
I'm hoping they're just residual.
344
00:21:31,071 --> 00:21:34,145
Aren't the kids a part
of this family here?
345
00:21:34,146 --> 00:21:34,904
Nope.
346
00:21:34,905 --> 00:21:36,109
They come from somewhere else?
347
00:21:36,110 --> 00:21:38,030
Yeah.
348
00:21:41,147 --> 00:21:43,175
Do you know what the reason was
why they didn't have any kids?
349
00:21:43,176 --> 00:21:45,739
No, I honestly don't know, but
they both started a little late.
350
00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:48,012
He was almost 30, and
she was in her mid 20s,
351
00:21:48,013 --> 00:21:50,293
which, for back then,
that was pretty old.
352
00:21:50,294 --> 00:21:51,083
Right.
353
00:21:51,084 --> 00:21:53,119
Uh, but Charles was away a lot.
354
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:59,020
I mean, he had business interests all
the way into Idaho, places like that.
355
00:22:03,066 --> 00:22:08,300
This man, he just wants to be
away, and so he goes away a lot.
356
00:22:08,301 --> 00:22:13,941
He's unhappy that, uh, this
is how his life turned out.
357
00:22:19,731 --> 00:22:22,016
Now what I need to do is dig
into the property's history
358
00:22:22,017 --> 00:22:24,691
before the Slocums were there.
359
00:22:24,692 --> 00:22:27,127
I'm headed over to the Clark
County historical museum.
360
00:22:27,128 --> 00:22:32,108
Hopefully, I'm gonna get
some leads over there.
361
00:22:32,465 --> 00:22:38,099
In a case that dates back to the
1800s, it's hard to find solid evidence.
362
00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:41,722
But I'm able to uncover
two pieces of info.
363
00:22:41,723 --> 00:22:46,576
A guy named Amos Short once owned
the land where the theater sits.
364
00:22:46,577 --> 00:22:52,477
And he was involved in a bloody
land dispute resulting in two deaths.
365
00:22:57,516 --> 00:23:00,902
They're putting bags on dead people.
366
00:23:00,903 --> 00:23:03,789
And there's all these bugs.
367
00:23:03,790 --> 00:23:08,770
And it smells because
their bodies were rotting.
368
00:23:09,428 --> 00:23:12,668
It was just really bad.
369
00:23:30,253 --> 00:23:33,587
They're putting bags on dead people.
370
00:23:33,588 --> 00:23:34,785
And, uh..
371
00:23:34,786 --> 00:23:37,627
And there's all these bugs.
372
00:23:37,628 --> 00:23:42,608
And it smells because
their bodies were rotting.
373
00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:49,386
I finally got some solid
leads at the library.
374
00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:53,064
It turns out that a man named Amos
Short had a legal claim to the property
375
00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:55,134
that the Slocum Theatre sits on.
376
00:23:55,135 --> 00:23:59,353
Some land developer called
Hudson's Bay Company wanted him off.
377
00:23:59,354 --> 00:24:04,189
Apparently, Amos wasn't having
it, and he shot two of their guys.
378
00:24:04,190 --> 00:24:05,921
Now I have to meet
with a local historian
379
00:24:05,922 --> 00:24:10,542
to find out what led
up to that incident.
380
00:24:18,982 --> 00:24:22,604
I found out about Amos and Esther
Short, that lived on the property where
381
00:24:22,605 --> 00:24:24,344
the Slocum House Theatre is.
382
00:24:24,345 --> 00:24:25,086
Mm-hmm.
383
00:24:25,087 --> 00:24:27,952
What do you know about
Amos and Esther Short?
384
00:24:27,953 --> 00:24:30,276
Well, Amos and Esther
Short came out on..
385
00:24:30,277 --> 00:24:33,277
On the Oregon trail.
386
00:24:34,209 --> 00:24:37,383
They eventually had, I
think it was 12 children.
387
00:24:37,384 --> 00:24:41,957
And they filed a land claim, uh,
where that house is located now,
388
00:24:41,958 --> 00:24:47,121
but there were competing, uh, individuals
and organizations for that land.
389
00:24:47,122 --> 00:24:51,267
The Hudson's Bay Company was here,
and they wanted the Shorts to leave.
390
00:24:51,268 --> 00:24:54,491
And when he was gone,
Esther was harassed.
391
00:24:54,492 --> 00:24:57,081
It was an individual, Dr. Gardner,
392
00:24:57,082 --> 00:24:59,967
and a Hawaiian gentleman
from the Hudson's Bay Company.
393
00:24:59,968 --> 00:25:02,258
They harassed her on a regular basis.
394
00:25:02,259 --> 00:25:04,494
Uh, destroyed their agricultural fields,
395
00:25:04,495 --> 00:25:06,392
and they burned her
cabin down three times.
396
00:25:06,393 --> 00:25:11,019
I mean, there was a
lot of harassment here.
397
00:25:11,020 --> 00:25:16,920
There was someone here who was a Doctor
at some point, and this educated man
398
00:25:17,311 --> 00:25:20,251
did not like women.
399
00:25:21,089 --> 00:25:24,449
Didn't like them at all.
400
00:25:27,380 --> 00:25:30,844
Gardner and his assistant,
uh, come on to the property.
401
00:25:30,845 --> 00:25:35,630
They have a confrontation with Amos,
and then he gives 'em a verbal warning,
402
00:25:35,631 --> 00:25:37,269
asking them to leave.
403
00:25:37,270 --> 00:25:39,496
And then the shooting happens.
404
00:25:39,497 --> 00:25:40,958
And he winds up killing both of them.
405
00:25:40,959 --> 00:25:45,388
Right, right, and.. And he's
acquitted of self-defense.
406
00:25:45,389 --> 00:25:48,962
So Amos Short killed the two men who
tried to run him off his own land.
407
00:25:48,963 --> 00:25:53,196
But I need to know what happened
to Amos and his wife after that.
408
00:25:53,197 --> 00:25:55,931
So I managed to track down
a relative of Esther Short
409
00:25:55,932 --> 00:26:01,832
to see if she could provide me with
more details regarding this case.
410
00:26:07,777 --> 00:26:10,298
What's your relationship
to Esther Short?
411
00:26:10,299 --> 00:26:14,737
I'm about, uh, five generations
down from Esther Short.
412
00:26:14,738 --> 00:26:18,981
This is, uh, Esther when
she was a young woman.
413
00:26:18,982 --> 00:26:22,073
Now when Amos wasn't around, did
they try getting her off the land?
414
00:26:22,074 --> 00:26:22,790
Oh, yes.
415
00:26:22,791 --> 00:26:25,983
I don't know how many times
the Hudson Bay people, uh,
416
00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:28,091
put 'em on a raft and
sent 'em down the river.
417
00:26:28,092 --> 00:26:30,453
Probably three or four times.
418
00:26:30,454 --> 00:26:31,719
- The kids..
- The kids.
419
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,795
- And her?
- So it was in the middle of the winter.
420
00:26:34,796 --> 00:26:37,896
One of those times, she was pregnant
when she was put on that raft.
421
00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:39,231
So these had to be pretty brutal men
422
00:26:39,232 --> 00:26:41,770
to do something like
that to her and ten kids.
423
00:26:41,771 --> 00:26:45,438
I mean, it was just
like they didn't exist.
424
00:26:45,439 --> 00:26:48,389
So Esther and Amos suffered
some serious hardships.
425
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:49,104
Oh, yeah.
426
00:26:49,105 --> 00:26:52,690
Amos was just determined
he was gonna be here.
427
00:26:52,691 --> 00:26:56,722
But he went to, uh, San
Francisco with a load of potatoes,
428
00:26:56,723 --> 00:27:00,164
and then on his way back, the whole
ship went down, there were no survivors.
429
00:27:00,165 --> 00:27:01,014
Was it accidental?
430
00:27:01,015 --> 00:27:06,915
I do not know, but I suspect that had
something to do with the antagonism.
431
00:27:17,114 --> 00:27:20,506
There was a.. A big event.
432
00:27:20,507 --> 00:27:25,129
Someone's lost and people
are running all over.
433
00:27:25,130 --> 00:27:29,150
Inside the house, there's a panic.
434
00:27:32,458 --> 00:27:36,437
I feel like the person
who's lost is a male.
435
00:27:36,438 --> 00:27:42,338
Uh, they're scared because this male,
uh, they would be lost, uh, without him.
436
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:49,404
Now what happened to
Esther after Amos died?
437
00:27:49,405 --> 00:27:52,144
She had to take care of her kids.
438
00:27:52,145 --> 00:27:54,626
She eventually ended up
having two different hotels.
439
00:27:54,627 --> 00:27:58,706
She ran those, and she did everything
she could to make it succeed.
440
00:27:58,707 --> 00:28:02,047
And I think she was tough
enough and strong enough
441
00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:03,928
that she was absolutely determined
442
00:28:03,929 --> 00:28:08,969
that she was gonna leave
a legacy for her kids.
443
00:28:19,415 --> 00:28:22,058
I came across several
dead people on my walk.
444
00:28:22,059 --> 00:28:25,724
But I decided to have a sketch
artist draw the most prominent one,
445
00:28:25,725 --> 00:28:28,485
the angry Doctor.
446
00:28:30,567 --> 00:28:32,982
There was a male.
447
00:28:32,983 --> 00:28:36,523
He had a heart-shaped face.
448
00:28:42,437 --> 00:28:45,200
Um, what can you tell me about his nose?
449
00:28:45,201 --> 00:28:47,361
It starts pretty high.
450
00:28:47,362 --> 00:28:50,782
The bridge is pretty high.
451
00:28:51,299 --> 00:28:54,891
Did it look sort of like that roughly?
452
00:28:54,892 --> 00:28:56,195
Proportion-wise and everything?
453
00:28:56,196 --> 00:28:58,560
I think his nose is a little thinner.
454
00:28:58,561 --> 00:28:59,369
A little thinner. Okay.
455
00:28:59,370 --> 00:29:01,290
Yeah.
456
00:29:02,249 --> 00:29:05,485
What can you tell me about his eyes?
457
00:29:05,486 --> 00:29:10,004
They're deep set and they're
a little bit far apart.
458
00:29:10,005 --> 00:29:12,041
And what can you tell
me about his hairdo?
459
00:29:12,042 --> 00:29:15,160
It came down pretty.. Pretty low.
460
00:29:15,161 --> 00:29:18,881
Then it's all slick.. Slicked.
461
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,960
Sort of like that?
462
00:29:27,685 --> 00:29:29,545
Yes.
463
00:29:54,995 --> 00:29:57,257
Amy and I work
independently of one another.
464
00:29:57,258 --> 00:30:01,719
Tonight we'll be discussing
our findings for the first time.
465
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,390
Well, guys, it's good to see you again.
466
00:30:03,391 --> 00:30:05,337
Uh, this is my partner.. Amy.
467
00:30:05,338 --> 00:30:06,316
- Hi.
- Hi.
468
00:30:06,317 --> 00:30:08,474
They run a theater show for the kids.
469
00:30:08,475 --> 00:30:09,754
Correct.
470
00:30:09,755 --> 00:30:13,270
Apparently, whenever
kids are in the theater,
471
00:30:13,271 --> 00:30:16,859
activity in the house
goes through the roof.
472
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:18,115
And it's a big concern for them.
473
00:30:18,116 --> 00:30:20,726
They're worried about the kids
and to see if they're safe.
474
00:30:20,727 --> 00:30:22,775
So with that being said,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy
475
00:30:22,776 --> 00:30:26,754
and find out what happened on her walk.
476
00:30:26,755 --> 00:30:29,404
Well, it was really
interesting because I had, um,
477
00:30:29,405 --> 00:30:32,688
physical sensations that
were a little unusual.
478
00:30:32,689 --> 00:30:35,314
It felt like I was
walking through walls.
479
00:30:35,315 --> 00:30:41,215
And that was downstairs in the
entrance to the changing area, I guess.
480
00:30:42,017 --> 00:30:46,397
Like I hit the wall, and then it gave.
481
00:30:46,692 --> 00:30:49,812
Uh, I don't like it.
482
00:30:50,202 --> 00:30:52,722
What's wrong?
483
00:30:54,118 --> 00:30:58,078
And that kind of made me nervous.
484
00:31:01,603 --> 00:31:06,614
The interesting thing is that
there used to be a wall there.
485
00:31:06,615 --> 00:31:09,324
We have recently redone
that whole basement.
486
00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:13,845
And there was another room down there
that we actually got rid of completely.
487
00:31:13,846 --> 00:31:15,335
Oh, wow. Okay.
488
00:31:15,336 --> 00:31:19,861
The house was moved in 1966
from where it originally was.
489
00:31:19,862 --> 00:31:20,572
Mm-hmm.
490
00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,738
And it didn't have a
basement originally.
491
00:31:22,739 --> 00:31:23,621
No.
492
00:31:23,622 --> 00:31:25,605
So it was all dirt there.
493
00:31:25,606 --> 00:31:28,366
- Really?
- Yeah.
494
00:31:33,334 --> 00:31:39,234
I also began to feel um, a real sense
of despair and depression and loss.
495
00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:47,967
And then I met this younger
female who was feeling this way.
496
00:31:48,425 --> 00:31:54,325
And it seemed to have a lot
to do with her and her family.
497
00:31:54,979 --> 00:31:57,430
She was missing her husband.
498
00:31:57,431 --> 00:32:00,452
- He was always gone and traveling and..
- Hmm.
499
00:32:00,453 --> 00:32:03,800
I think she really,
really loved him a lot.
500
00:32:03,801 --> 00:32:07,951
I got a picture of, uh,
Charles and Laura Slocum.
501
00:32:07,952 --> 00:32:11,046
They met here in town. They got married.
502
00:32:11,047 --> 00:32:12,680
They built that house.
503
00:32:12,681 --> 00:32:16,253
Now obviously the house is big, and you
would think they built a house that big
504
00:32:16,254 --> 00:32:17,251
because they were gonna have kids.
505
00:32:17,252 --> 00:32:19,883
So they didn't have any kids.
We don't know really why.
506
00:32:19,884 --> 00:32:21,835
Interesting.
507
00:32:21,836 --> 00:32:27,736
A lot of sadness, very depressing,
like nobody was ever really happy here.
508
00:32:30,466 --> 00:32:33,642
He used to go away a lot on
business and then come back.
509
00:32:33,643 --> 00:32:36,935
She used to do a lot of events in the
house for the kids in the neighborhood.
510
00:32:36,936 --> 00:32:42,396
Apparently, uh, it filled
the void of not having kids.
511
00:32:45,822 --> 00:32:48,790
Once when I was in the theater,
um, I was sitting there,
512
00:32:48,791 --> 00:32:53,039
and this apparition of this
woman came walking past me.
513
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,992
And she had long hair, and she..
514
00:32:54,993 --> 00:32:56,008
She didn't acknowledge me.
515
00:32:56,009 --> 00:32:59,518
She just kept walking right past.
516
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:01,242
And you think it's her?
517
00:33:01,243 --> 00:33:04,843
I do. I do think it's her.
518
00:33:07,541 --> 00:33:09,728
So, Amy, what else did
you see on your walk?
519
00:33:09,729 --> 00:33:15,189
I came into contact with
residual imprints of children.
520
00:33:19,007 --> 00:33:23,900
People here didn't want
them because they were..
521
00:33:23,901 --> 00:33:24,891
Spoiled.
522
00:33:24,892 --> 00:33:28,912
They were, in life, unwanted brats.
523
00:33:30,348 --> 00:33:33,792
And there were at least ten of them.
524
00:33:33,793 --> 00:33:39,014
They were running, yelling
and screaming and jumping and..
525
00:33:39,015 --> 00:33:44,094
Any adult, they're like, on,
and, um, wanting attention, and..
526
00:33:44,095 --> 00:33:49,513
Yeah, it was kind of overwhelming, just,
like, how much, how loud, how active
527
00:33:49,514 --> 00:33:51,562
these kids were.
528
00:33:51,563 --> 00:33:54,242
We tend to hear noises,
especially when kids are present,
529
00:33:54,243 --> 00:34:00,143
and, uh, Shaun and Rebecca saw
what looked like a smaller head..
530
00:34:00,317 --> 00:34:01,367
Kind of peeking around.
531
00:34:01,368 --> 00:34:04,138
I just opened the door and said,
"okay, you guys, knock it off. "
532
00:34:04,139 --> 00:34:06,578
"We have a show. We need
you to stop making noise. "
533
00:34:06,579 --> 00:34:10,599
And, uh, yeah, nobody was upstairs.
534
00:34:16,781 --> 00:34:20,621
I also saw an elderly gentleman.
535
00:34:22,304 --> 00:34:24,272
He traveled all the time.
536
00:34:24,273 --> 00:34:27,108
Then I got the educated man.
537
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:30,109
He hated women and..
538
00:34:30,662 --> 00:34:33,962
He didn't like children.
539
00:34:37,101 --> 00:34:39,492
You know, I went back a lot
further than the Slocums.
540
00:34:39,493 --> 00:34:44,307
Uh, the land that house sat
on was originally owned by, uh,
541
00:34:44,308 --> 00:34:46,038
Amos and Esther Short.
542
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,676
Uh, it wasn't even U.S.
soil at the.. At the time.
543
00:34:48,677 --> 00:34:51,735
And they were in a battle
with the Hudson Bay Company.
544
00:34:51,736 --> 00:34:53,087
They didn't want them here.
545
00:34:53,088 --> 00:34:55,254
They claimed the land
here, that it was theirs.
546
00:34:55,255 --> 00:35:00,595
When Amos would go off on business,
Esther was left alone with the ten kids.
547
00:35:00,596 --> 00:35:03,948
Hudson Bay Company did everything
they could to get rid of her.
548
00:35:03,949 --> 00:35:05,601
They destroyed the crops.
549
00:35:05,602 --> 00:35:08,014
They burned their cabin three times.
550
00:35:08,015 --> 00:35:11,613
Even went as far as, two times,
putting her and the ten kids in a boat
551
00:35:11,614 --> 00:35:13,391
and sticking them on
the river with no oars.
552
00:35:13,392 --> 00:35:15,312
What?
553
00:35:17,821 --> 00:35:19,405
"Take care. "
554
00:35:19,406 --> 00:35:22,346
That's pretty sick.
555
00:35:26,352 --> 00:35:29,584
Shaun, tell Amy about the
guy you see in the window.
556
00:35:29,585 --> 00:35:32,150
I'm wondering if he could be
one of the three guys Amy saw.
557
00:35:32,151 --> 00:35:36,669
Every time I walk into the
side door of the theater,
558
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:42,570
the men's costume room window, a
man is standing there watching me.
559
00:35:45,757 --> 00:35:47,481
And it's just this..
560
00:35:47,482 --> 00:35:50,662
Wyatt Earp-looking man.
561
00:35:54,022 --> 00:35:56,058
Amy, you sketched one of
the men you saw, right?
562
00:35:56,059 --> 00:35:58,999
Yes. Um, I sketched
563
00:35:59,356 --> 00:36:01,933
who I felt was the educated man.
564
00:36:01,934 --> 00:36:04,934
He hated women and..
565
00:36:05,886 --> 00:36:08,819
He didn't like children.
566
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:13,920
You know what? Let's
take a look at the sketch.
567
00:36:27,477 --> 00:36:30,357
That's who I see.
568
00:36:38,435 --> 00:36:40,607
Amy, you sketched one of
the men you saw, right?
569
00:36:40,608 --> 00:36:42,505
- Yes, I did.
- Okay.
570
00:36:42,506 --> 00:36:47,246
I sketched who I felt
was the educated man.
571
00:36:54,122 --> 00:36:57,002
What do you think?
572
00:37:00,739 --> 00:37:02,599
Wow.
573
00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,900
Yeah.
574
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:17,380
That's him.
575
00:37:18,082 --> 00:37:23,002
That's the man that
watches me in the window.
576
00:37:26,134 --> 00:37:29,914
Everything about it is spot-on.
577
00:37:30,018 --> 00:37:33,931
Oh, man, the hair is
just ridiculous. That's..
578
00:37:33,932 --> 00:37:35,251
That's it.
579
00:37:35,252 --> 00:37:37,381
The hair was very specific, so..
580
00:37:37,382 --> 00:37:38,474
Yeah.
581
00:37:38,475 --> 00:37:40,947
Well, there's a lot more to the story.
582
00:37:40,948 --> 00:37:46,848
Um, as far as Amos goes, at one point,
Amos was home, and.. Two men came again
583
00:37:50,582 --> 00:37:52,123
to try to get him off the property.
584
00:37:52,124 --> 00:37:52,940
Ahh.
585
00:37:52,941 --> 00:37:55,571
He told them, "don't come on my land"
586
00:37:55,572 --> 00:37:58,432
"or I'm gonna shoot. "
587
00:37:58,433 --> 00:38:01,525
Gave 'em a warning shot.
588
00:38:01,526 --> 00:38:03,191
They didn't listen.
589
00:38:03,192 --> 00:38:06,055
Two more shots, and he killed both men.
590
00:38:06,056 --> 00:38:08,270
And it happened right
outside the door of the house.
591
00:38:08,271 --> 00:38:09,957
- Oh, my gosh.
- Wow.
592
00:38:09,958 --> 00:38:12,983
Now both of them worked
for the Hudson Bay Company.
593
00:38:12,984 --> 00:38:18,884
One guy was named Dr. Gardner, and,
uh, his assistant, a Hawaiian guy.
594
00:38:19,467 --> 00:38:24,816
There was someone here who
was a Doctor at some point.
595
00:38:24,817 --> 00:38:27,280
He hates the girls,
like, the teenage girls.
596
00:38:27,281 --> 00:38:29,173
Just hates 'em.
597
00:38:29,174 --> 00:38:32,834
Hates 'em so much. Hates 'em.
598
00:38:32,839 --> 00:38:36,419
Unfortunately, there is no
photo of Dr. David Gardner.
599
00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:39,430
I don't know who this
educated man that I saw was,
600
00:38:39,431 --> 00:38:42,252
but I do know that he hated women.
601
00:38:42,253 --> 00:38:44,680
He died in 1850.
602
00:38:44,681 --> 00:38:46,804
Hardly anybody's picture
was taken back then.
603
00:38:46,805 --> 00:38:51,638
But it's obvious that you
and Amy saw the same guy.
604
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,177
That's him.
605
00:38:53,178 --> 00:38:54,469
Yeah.
606
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:59,861
A Doctor is obviously an educated
man, especially in the 1850s.
607
00:38:59,862 --> 00:39:02,502
Now, Amy, you said
this man hated children?
608
00:39:02,503 --> 00:39:04,963
Mm-hmm. Yes.
609
00:39:13,018 --> 00:39:15,267
Well, we many never know
if it's really Dr. Gardner
610
00:39:15,268 --> 00:39:17,086
who's scaring the children here.
611
00:39:17,087 --> 00:39:18,941
But the most pressing question is,
612
00:39:18,942 --> 00:39:24,282
is it safe for those kids
to come into the theater?
613
00:39:24,978 --> 00:39:30,078
That being said, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
614
00:39:31,768 --> 00:39:33,378
Well..
615
00:39:33,379 --> 00:39:36,619
In this case, there's..
616
00:39:38,387 --> 00:39:40,667
Good news.
617
00:39:40,684 --> 00:39:42,978
I feel it's safe for them.
618
00:39:42,979 --> 00:39:47,659
But I have a problem
with the 7-foot man.
619
00:39:48,818 --> 00:39:52,538
He.. Is kinda scary, this guy.
620
00:39:52,608 --> 00:39:54,303
And he's, like, really broad..
621
00:39:54,304 --> 00:39:57,124
A big, broad guy.
622
00:40:01,036 --> 00:40:03,770
So was he 7 feet tall, or was
he just presenting himself..
623
00:40:03,771 --> 00:40:04,963
- He was just presenting..
- Okay.
624
00:40:04,964 --> 00:40:07,183
- In life, he was, like, 5'7..
- Okay.
625
00:40:07,184 --> 00:40:10,431
But in death, he's 7 feet tall.
626
00:40:10,432 --> 00:40:14,813
I think he needs a stern talking
to because he is being a hypocrite.
627
00:40:14,814 --> 00:40:20,714
He is saying he wants to be left
alone, and yet, he's harassing.. People.
628
00:40:22,363 --> 00:40:25,543
So that needs to stop.
629
00:40:25,842 --> 00:40:30,070
I think you guys should talk about
what each of you has experienced,
630
00:40:30,071 --> 00:40:33,463
what you want, what you
don't want, write it all down,
631
00:40:33,464 --> 00:40:36,599
and then go down there as a group
and read out the whole thing.
632
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,794
Be like, "that's your
space, you hang out there. "
633
00:40:39,795 --> 00:40:42,523
"We'll respect that if you respect us. "
634
00:40:42,524 --> 00:40:46,287
"If you don't respect us,
then you're gonna have to go. "
635
00:40:46,288 --> 00:40:49,338
I'm certain the 7-foot-man
was Dr. Gardner's assistant.
636
00:40:49,339 --> 00:40:55,159
He's chosen to stay in the
theater, but needs to move on.
637
00:40:57,402 --> 00:41:00,559
Amy, what do they do if, after
they have this talk with this guy,
638
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,852
and it doesn't stop?
639
00:41:01,853 --> 00:41:04,196
Well, then you're going to
throw him out of the location.
640
00:41:04,197 --> 00:41:04,951
Okay.
641
00:41:04,952 --> 00:41:09,721
We'll keep in contact
to see how this goes.
642
00:41:09,722 --> 00:41:15,121
And if you have to make him leave,
then I'll tell you what you need to do.
643
00:41:15,122 --> 00:41:17,745
I mean, now that we know that
it's not dangerous for the kids..
644
00:41:17,746 --> 00:41:19,205
- Yeah.
- You know, I mean..
645
00:41:19,206 --> 00:41:21,452
It kinda goes to the
personality of the house.
646
00:41:21,453 --> 00:41:23,284
It would be, you know,
if he wants to stay
647
00:41:23,285 --> 00:41:25,955
and he's willing to follow the rules..
648
00:41:25,956 --> 00:41:27,207
We don't have any hostility.
649
00:41:27,208 --> 00:41:29,255
We just want kids to
feel comfortable coming..
650
00:41:29,256 --> 00:41:30,917
- So..
- Right. Right.
651
00:41:30,918 --> 00:41:34,698
- Mm-hmm. -
Thank you so much.
652
00:41:34,868 --> 00:41:38,281
There are several dead people
inhabiting the Slocum House,
653
00:41:38,282 --> 00:41:42,304
but only the 7-foot man
presents any sort of danger.
654
00:41:42,305 --> 00:41:46,104
As long as the employees of the theater
follow the advice I've given them,
655
00:41:46,105 --> 00:41:51,459
they have nothing to worry about,
and the children will remain safe.
656
00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:54,029
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