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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,034 --> 00:00:02,369 Narrator: Tonight on "Shark Tank"... 2 00:00:02,369 --> 00:00:03,470 The Earth needs an alternative. 3 00:00:03,470 --> 00:00:05,906 The way we are dying is killing us. 4 00:00:05,906 --> 00:00:09,610 So I invented a sports bra for your man parts. 5 00:00:09,610 --> 00:00:10,744 [ Laughter ] 6 00:00:10,744 --> 00:00:12,679 Sharks, who's ready to join the team? 7 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:13,747 What are you sales? 8 00:00:13,747 --> 00:00:16,283 We are a money-losing company. Oh! 9 00:00:16,283 --> 00:00:17,451 Why are you worth that? 10 00:00:17,451 --> 00:00:19,419 Because you have done nothing. 11 00:00:19,419 --> 00:00:20,420 You blew it. 12 00:00:20,420 --> 00:00:22,256 Your valuation makes no sense. 13 00:00:22,256 --> 00:00:23,590 I am a one-man show. 14 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:24,591 This is our baby. 15 00:00:24,591 --> 00:00:25,726 But you hurt my feelings. 16 00:00:25,726 --> 00:00:28,528 This is your moment. You're on the "Shark Tank" carpet. 17 00:00:28,528 --> 00:00:30,697 You need to decide if you want to swim with a shark 18 00:00:30,697 --> 00:00:33,166 or be eaten by one. 19 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:39,973 ♪♪ 20 00:00:39,973 --> 00:00:43,310 Narrator: First in the Tank is an innovative product 21 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:46,113 for emergency situations. 22 00:00:46,113 --> 00:00:51,785 ♪♪ 23 00:00:51,785 --> 00:00:53,587 Hi, Sharks. My name is Maurice. 24 00:00:53,587 --> 00:00:55,389 And this is my son, Miles. 25 00:00:55,389 --> 00:00:57,491 We're from Chico, California. 26 00:00:57,491 --> 00:01:00,560 Today we are seeking 200,000 smackers 27 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,930 for 10% of our business StormBag. 28 00:01:02,930 --> 00:01:05,465 Miles: Sharks, when a flood is on the way, 29 00:01:05,465 --> 00:01:07,401 the last thing that you want to be doing 30 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:08,735 is shoveling sand. 31 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:11,872 Traditional sandbags require back-breaking labor. 32 00:01:11,872 --> 00:01:14,741 Not to mention thousands of pounds of sand. 33 00:01:14,741 --> 00:01:16,777 But what if we were to tell you 34 00:01:16,777 --> 00:01:20,580 that there is a much easier way to keep the water at bay? 35 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:21,949 That in a matter of only a few minutes, 36 00:01:21,949 --> 00:01:25,886 you and you alone can build a wall like this 37 00:01:25,886 --> 00:01:29,523 with no shoveling and no sand required. 38 00:01:29,523 --> 00:01:32,859 Introducing our invention, the StormBag. 39 00:01:32,859 --> 00:01:35,796 It's a sandbag that needs no sand, 40 00:01:35,796 --> 00:01:37,898 almost takes no labor to deploy. 41 00:01:37,898 --> 00:01:41,268 All you simply do is add water. 42 00:01:42,636 --> 00:01:44,604 Pretty cool. 43 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:46,506 You can see the time lapse right there 44 00:01:46,506 --> 00:01:49,743 how easy it is to deal with the bag. 45 00:01:49,743 --> 00:01:51,845 When the StormBag is dry, 46 00:01:51,845 --> 00:01:55,616 it only weighs one pound, but in three to five minutes, 47 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:58,285 it weighs a whopping 30 pounds. 48 00:01:58,285 --> 00:01:58,785 What?! 49 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:00,554 The best thing about the StormBag 50 00:02:00,554 --> 00:02:02,589 is that it can be used by anyone, 51 00:02:02,589 --> 00:02:04,624 regardless of their physical ability. 52 00:02:04,624 --> 00:02:05,659 And with your help, 53 00:02:05,659 --> 00:02:07,694 we can bring StormBag to the next level, 54 00:02:07,694 --> 00:02:08,929 allowing more people to protect 55 00:02:08,929 --> 00:02:11,565 their homes and businesses. 56 00:02:11,565 --> 00:02:12,966 Sharks, who's ready to join the team... 57 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:14,801 Together: And revolutionize the way 58 00:02:14,801 --> 00:02:16,603 we all weather the storm? 59 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:17,738 That's pretty cool. Greiner: Wow. 60 00:02:17,738 --> 00:02:18,705 John: That is very cool. That's really cool. 61 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:19,773 So this is it in front of us? 62 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:20,974 Yes, you have a sample right there. 63 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:25,812 What you have in the jar represents 50 pounds of sand. 64 00:02:25,812 --> 00:02:27,881 So, Daymond, what you've got in the jar right there 65 00:02:27,881 --> 00:02:30,684 is exactly what's inside each of those bags. 66 00:02:30,684 --> 00:02:31,852 Lubetzky: What -- What material is it? 67 00:02:31,852 --> 00:02:35,022 It is a absorbent polymer, and it absorbs 68 00:02:35,022 --> 00:02:37,858 300 times its weight per granular in there. 69 00:02:37,858 --> 00:02:41,695 Once I trigger it to make it 35 pounds, 70 00:02:41,695 --> 00:02:42,963 is there any way to get it back? 71 00:02:42,963 --> 00:02:43,964 Yes. Or is it a one-time deal? 72 00:02:43,964 --> 00:02:45,532 If you have it out in the sun 73 00:02:45,532 --> 00:02:46,833 and there's no water around it, 74 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:49,236 it will dehydrate again flat to where it is now. 75 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:51,838 You can reuse it. These are reusable as many times as you need to, right? 76 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:53,306 Um... Three times. 77 00:02:53,306 --> 00:02:53,940 Okay. 78 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:55,809 Greiner: So the million-dollar question, 79 00:02:55,809 --> 00:02:57,644 were you in this field before? 80 00:02:57,644 --> 00:02:59,546 Did you have anything to do with this before? 81 00:02:59,546 --> 00:03:00,947 No, I have a business. 82 00:03:00,947 --> 00:03:04,684 I import military clothing and vintage clothing. 83 00:03:04,684 --> 00:03:06,853 I deal with emergency equipment -- 84 00:03:06,853 --> 00:03:08,221 gas cans and fuel. So intuitive then 85 00:03:08,221 --> 00:03:11,591 to want to do something that helps in emergencies. Exactly. 86 00:03:11,591 --> 00:03:12,859 Yeah. And what about you? 87 00:03:12,859 --> 00:03:15,829 Well, I studied graphic design in school. 88 00:03:15,829 --> 00:03:18,632 Um, my first love is in typography. 89 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:20,801 But once I got into the business 90 00:03:20,801 --> 00:03:22,803 with Maurice, I said, you know, you've -- 91 00:03:22,803 --> 00:03:24,104 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's your father, isn't it? 92 00:03:24,104 --> 00:03:25,672 This is my father. Cuban: Maurice is your dad, 93 00:03:25,672 --> 00:03:26,807 My dad. ...and you're calling him Maurice? 94 00:03:26,807 --> 00:03:29,009 [ Chuckles ] Yeah, Alright. Hey, hey, hey. 95 00:03:29,009 --> 00:03:31,044 Yeah, so I joined the family business, 96 00:03:31,044 --> 00:03:34,748 and he hadn't done any marketing whatsoever for these bags. 97 00:03:34,748 --> 00:03:37,017 They've just been selling to the same regular customers. 98 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:39,886 But I thought, "Gosh, we really should try to push these things." 99 00:03:39,886 --> 00:03:42,055 And so we did. We took it to a trade show. 100 00:03:42,055 --> 00:03:44,991 We filmed a video which ended up going viral on TikTok, 101 00:03:44,991 --> 00:03:46,960 and there were 7 million views 102 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,029 across TikTok and Facebook combined. 103 00:03:49,029 --> 00:03:51,231 Maurice and Miles, have you ever worked together before? 104 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:53,033 Is this the first time that you're working together? 105 00:03:53,033 --> 00:03:56,903 So, like I said, I was into graphic design 106 00:03:56,903 --> 00:04:00,841 and then we sort of faced a disaster of our own. 107 00:04:00,841 --> 00:04:03,043 We're from a town called Paradise, California. 108 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:04,744 I'm not sure if any of you remember, 109 00:04:04,744 --> 00:04:06,780 but that town completely burned down. 110 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:09,950 I lost my home. He lost his home. 111 00:04:09,950 --> 00:04:10,951 The business burnt down. Greiner: Oh, my God. 112 00:04:10,951 --> 00:04:12,052 Lubetzky: That was your home? 113 00:04:12,052 --> 00:04:13,553 All of our employees lost their homes. 114 00:04:13,553 --> 00:04:14,855 That's our home. So sorry. 115 00:04:14,855 --> 00:04:15,956 John: Oh, my God. 116 00:04:15,956 --> 00:04:17,924 Miles: And it was just time to rebuild the business. 117 00:04:17,924 --> 00:04:20,060 And I thought... My warehouse. 118 00:04:20,060 --> 00:04:22,896 Greiner: Wow. It was a brutal experience. 119 00:04:22,896 --> 00:04:24,664 And we just got out of town... 120 00:04:24,664 --> 00:04:26,900 So scary. ...just in time. Yeah. 121 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:28,668 Wow. Unfortunately, 84 people 122 00:04:28,668 --> 00:04:29,703 did not make it out of the town. 123 00:04:29,703 --> 00:04:30,737 Oh. Oh. 124 00:04:30,737 --> 00:04:32,873 And so when when it came to rebuilding, 125 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:36,576 it seemed to me like a really hard task by myself. 126 00:04:39,679 --> 00:04:41,848 So here we are working together. 127 00:04:41,848 --> 00:04:43,617 And so he helped you? 128 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:44,951 He jumped in. Gave up his career. 129 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:47,621 What a son. What a son. 130 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:48,788 ♪♪ 131 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:53,760 Okay, $200,000, 10%, $2 million valuation. 132 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,928 You're making any money? 133 00:04:54,928 --> 00:04:56,963 So... Dude, have a heart. 134 00:04:56,963 --> 00:04:58,932 The guy's telling you the story of his life. 135 00:04:58,932 --> 00:05:00,934 No, that's... And you're jumping to money. 136 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:02,736 [ Laughs ] Well, he made you laugh. 137 00:05:02,736 --> 00:05:03,937 That's... Thank you for taking it away. 138 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:05,172 That's an important... Appreciate it. Aww. 139 00:05:05,172 --> 00:05:06,940 That's an important question, obviously. O'Leary: And... 140 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:08,909 What are you gonna make this year? 141 00:05:08,909 --> 00:05:11,945 Well, our fiscal year just closed and we did $90,000, 142 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:15,081 but we have so far done absolutely zero marketing. Zero. 143 00:05:15,081 --> 00:05:18,084 So I believe that there's a huge untapped potential 144 00:05:18,084 --> 00:05:20,854 to make millions because with some investment, 145 00:05:20,854 --> 00:05:23,190 we can make some really wonderful videos, 146 00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:25,959 really, truly demonstrating this product 147 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:27,894 and get some good marketing out there. 148 00:05:27,894 --> 00:05:29,996 So, how much does one bag cost? 149 00:05:29,996 --> 00:05:32,199 Do you sell like sets of 20, or how does it work? 150 00:05:32,199 --> 00:05:35,869 Yeah, so we sell the bags for $5.50 each. 151 00:05:35,869 --> 00:05:37,504 That's sort of the lowest price point. 152 00:05:37,504 --> 00:05:38,572 $5.50 each? 153 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:39,139 Mm-hmm. That's right. 154 00:05:39,139 --> 00:05:40,907 And how does that compare to a sandbag 155 00:05:40,907 --> 00:05:41,908 if you bought a sandbag? 156 00:05:41,908 --> 00:05:43,710 Sandbags are free. Yeah. 157 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:44,978 Oh, they are? I mean, yeah. 158 00:05:44,978 --> 00:05:46,846 But you have to schlep them around. 159 00:05:46,846 --> 00:05:48,114 Schlep and shovel. [ Laughing ] Yeah. That's right. 160 00:05:48,114 --> 00:05:49,716 And store them. How much does it cost you to make this? 161 00:05:49,716 --> 00:05:50,750 $2.00. 162 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:52,252 And with a little bit of better equipment, 163 00:05:52,252 --> 00:05:55,188 we can get that down to $1.75. Yeah. 164 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:57,090 Okay, guys, looking at the deal, 165 00:05:57,090 --> 00:05:59,860 saying to myself, the competition is free. 166 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:01,228 That's what the sandbag is. 167 00:06:01,228 --> 00:06:04,064 And I get that it's sand... To schlep it and store it. 168 00:06:04,064 --> 00:06:05,899 But I'm going to guess because you're only 169 00:06:05,899 --> 00:06:06,933 selling $90,000 a year, 170 00:06:06,933 --> 00:06:10,036 that 99.9% of the market in floods 171 00:06:10,036 --> 00:06:12,239 is using traditional sandbags. 172 00:06:12,239 --> 00:06:14,241 So there's a lot of education to be done here. 173 00:06:14,241 --> 00:06:17,644 Education. And you're always going to be fighting free, 174 00:06:17,644 --> 00:06:19,779 which is a tough place. 175 00:06:19,779 --> 00:06:21,815 So, for demonstration purposes, 176 00:06:21,815 --> 00:06:23,850 it's pretty fun to talk about floods. 177 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:26,152 But the -- really the main use for these -- 178 00:06:26,152 --> 00:06:29,656 for these bags is in the home. 179 00:06:29,656 --> 00:06:30,890 Let's say a pipe breaks. 180 00:06:30,890 --> 00:06:32,792 Suddenly there's water coming out 181 00:06:32,792 --> 00:06:33,994 behind your washing machine. 182 00:06:33,994 --> 00:06:35,161 You can just lay it down... 183 00:06:35,161 --> 00:06:37,030 Hm. ...and it sucks up five gallons of water. 184 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:39,332 And the other great thing that my wife uses it for 185 00:06:39,332 --> 00:06:41,968 on our -- on our farm, she puts them around plants 186 00:06:41,968 --> 00:06:44,004 when we go on vacation where we can't water. 187 00:06:44,004 --> 00:06:46,006 Oh! You let it just release the water. 188 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:47,073 Oh, and it releases the water. 189 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:48,208 Greiner: So wait a minute. 190 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:51,011 How long would it take for that to lose all water? 191 00:06:51,011 --> 00:06:52,279 It depends on the weather. 192 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,115 Where we live, it's about 110 degrees in the summer. 193 00:06:55,115 --> 00:06:56,283 So every two to three weeks 194 00:06:56,283 --> 00:06:58,184 is when we have to go up and rehydrate them. 195 00:06:58,184 --> 00:06:59,886 So it lasts two to three weeks? 196 00:06:59,886 --> 00:07:00,987 Yes. 197 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:02,889 O'Leary: Alright, guys, look, this is something 198 00:07:02,889 --> 00:07:04,124 that you have a lot of passion for. 199 00:07:04,124 --> 00:07:07,193 I get it, but I really hate competing against free. 200 00:07:07,193 --> 00:07:08,895 So for that reason, I'm out. 201 00:07:08,895 --> 00:07:10,997 Alright. So if I -- if I may 202 00:07:10,997 --> 00:07:12,899 just respond to that quickly, Kevin. 203 00:07:12,899 --> 00:07:15,502 Well, I don't think you can. Free is free. 204 00:07:15,502 --> 00:07:21,441 ♪♪ 205 00:07:27,781 --> 00:07:29,182 Narrator: One Shark is out. 206 00:07:29,182 --> 00:07:32,285 Miles and Maurice have four chances left to get a deal 207 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:35,922 for their sandbag alternative StormBag. 208 00:07:35,922 --> 00:07:38,024 So going back to -- 209 00:07:38,024 --> 00:07:40,160 You talked about that it can water your plants. 210 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,995 So I'm just -- I'm just curious. Yeah. 211 00:07:41,995 --> 00:07:43,396 What if you made a little baby bag? 212 00:07:43,396 --> 00:07:46,199 Could somebody then use it inside their house, 213 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:49,235 in their plants if they wanted to go away and travel? 214 00:07:49,235 --> 00:07:50,870 Sure. Would it water their plants... 215 00:07:50,870 --> 00:07:52,005 Absolutely. ...slowly while they're gone? 216 00:07:52,005 --> 00:07:53,273 Yeah. Absolutely. 217 00:07:53,273 --> 00:07:54,841 That's a pretty good idea. Good idea. Yeah. 218 00:07:54,841 --> 00:07:56,209 [ Laughs ] Kind of genius, honestly. 219 00:07:56,209 --> 00:07:58,211 So, yeah. Like, I -- Well... Thank you for that. 220 00:07:58,211 --> 00:08:01,848 Maurice and Miles, Daymond and I would be interested. 221 00:08:01,848 --> 00:08:04,017 We would consider working with you, 222 00:08:04,017 --> 00:08:06,086 but it would need to be 40% because... 223 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:07,687 What percent? 224 00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:08,888 40%. 225 00:08:08,888 --> 00:08:09,923 John: So, yeah. So there you go. 226 00:08:09,923 --> 00:08:11,324 Daniel and I will come in together. 227 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:16,529 We'll offer you $200,000 for 40% and you will get two Sharks. 228 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:19,232 I have a lot of friends that do a lot of contracts 229 00:08:19,232 --> 00:08:22,002 with the military, so I tried to add value there. 230 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,004 But what you'll have also is what you want, right? 231 00:08:24,004 --> 00:08:26,373 You'll have people who are bringing public awareness 232 00:08:26,373 --> 00:08:28,675 on television and various other things. 233 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:29,743 Right? Exactly. 234 00:08:29,743 --> 00:08:31,244 So there you have it. 235 00:08:31,244 --> 00:08:33,279 Yeah, you have an offer right now, 40%. 236 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:36,249 Greiner: So, gentlemen. $200,000, two Sharks. 237 00:08:36,249 --> 00:08:37,784 Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen. 238 00:08:37,784 --> 00:08:40,186 It has been 15 years 239 00:08:40,186 --> 00:08:43,957 making dreams come true for entrepreneurs just like you. 240 00:08:43,957 --> 00:08:45,425 So Mark and I were just talking, 241 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:48,061 and we'd like to make some dreams come true 242 00:08:48,061 --> 00:08:50,663 for the two of you, so we have an offer, as well. 243 00:08:51,297 --> 00:08:55,802 So we're gonna offer the $200,000, but for 30%. 244 00:08:58,004 --> 00:09:00,173 Cuban: And here's where we're coming from, guys. 245 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:03,042 I think this is great for NGOs and the military 246 00:09:03,042 --> 00:09:04,244 and all that kind of stuff, 247 00:09:04,244 --> 00:09:07,180 but you need to repackage it for different applications. 248 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:09,249 So when people see it, there's more of an explanation 249 00:09:09,249 --> 00:09:10,483 and makes it easier to buy. 250 00:09:10,483 --> 00:09:13,453 Makes sense. You know, we think selling it through hardware stores 251 00:09:13,453 --> 00:09:16,456 and wholesale, right, I think is going to be huge. 252 00:09:16,456 --> 00:09:19,893 I personally think $5.50 is way too cheap 253 00:09:19,893 --> 00:09:21,428 for 90% of the applications. 254 00:09:21,428 --> 00:09:25,198 You know, you can charge $19.95 for commercial applications 255 00:09:25,198 --> 00:09:28,034 and $9.95 for your home plant applications 256 00:09:28,034 --> 00:09:29,302 and make a lot more money. 257 00:09:29,302 --> 00:09:33,173 Miles and Maurice, when it comes to design and excellence, 258 00:09:33,173 --> 00:09:36,242 not only did I design one of the most iconic brands named KIND, 259 00:09:36,242 --> 00:09:37,277 but look at Daymond. 260 00:09:37,277 --> 00:09:38,912 Is there anybody more handsome 261 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:40,080 and better dressed than this guy? 262 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,048 [ Laughter ] He can help you with the design. 263 00:09:42,048 --> 00:09:43,183 He's got a point with the handsome. 264 00:09:43,183 --> 00:09:45,151 And in terms of distribution, 265 00:09:45,151 --> 00:09:48,988 whether it's Home Depot or Lowe's or anybody else, 266 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:50,190 I have all those connections also, 267 00:09:50,190 --> 00:09:52,225 so I-I can deliver for you. 268 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:54,060 So what do you guys -- What would you guys like to do? 269 00:09:55,128 --> 00:09:57,096 Well... 270 00:09:57,096 --> 00:10:00,567 ♪♪ 271 00:10:00,567 --> 00:10:03,002 [ Whispering ] You know, I came in here kind of wanting Lori. 272 00:10:03,002 --> 00:10:03,903 [ Whispering ] Yeah. 273 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:05,004 So let's go with -- 274 00:10:05,004 --> 00:10:06,906 And also Daniel. [ Laughs ] 275 00:10:06,906 --> 00:10:08,108 I know. Difficult. 276 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:13,947 ♪♪ 277 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:15,148 What do you want to do? 278 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:16,950 John: Daniel, are we staying -- Are we staying at 40%? 279 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:18,051 Or what do you want to do? 280 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:22,122 We'll do 30%, also. We'll do 30%. We'll match it. 281 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,224 Okay, now they're equal. What do you want to do? 282 00:10:24,224 --> 00:10:25,391 What you need to -- You need to think -- 283 00:10:25,391 --> 00:10:27,160 Let them decide, Daniel. Come on, Daniel. 284 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,328 Stop, stop. Who are you looking for in a partner? 285 00:10:28,328 --> 00:10:31,097 Make a decision, guys. That sandbag's gonna blow up. 286 00:10:31,097 --> 00:10:33,032 You've got to make a decision. 287 00:10:33,032 --> 00:10:34,601 Let them talk. 288 00:10:36,202 --> 00:10:38,805 [ Indistinct conversation ] 289 00:10:38,805 --> 00:10:44,944 ♪♪ 290 00:10:44,944 --> 00:10:46,279 Yeah, I'll let you say it. 291 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:47,947 Lori and Mark, you got a deal. 292 00:10:47,947 --> 00:10:50,483 [ Cheering ] Aw. 293 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:52,619 Cuban: You're a smart man, and we're gonna make you a lot more money. 294 00:10:52,619 --> 00:10:54,554 Thank you. Thank you so much. Congratulations. This is amazing. 295 00:10:54,554 --> 00:10:56,289 Congrats. Appreciate you, Lori. Thank you so much. 296 00:10:56,289 --> 00:10:58,925 Greiner: Great product. Amazing. Amazing product. 297 00:10:58,925 --> 00:11:00,126 Good luck, guys. 298 00:11:00,126 --> 00:11:01,361 Thank you. Thank you. 299 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:02,529 Look at that. That's great, huh? 300 00:11:02,529 --> 00:11:05,098 Yeah, couldn't have gone better. That's awesome. 301 00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:06,199 Maurice: We wanted Lori and Mark 302 00:11:06,199 --> 00:11:09,068 because Lori 100% understood the home use 303 00:11:09,068 --> 00:11:10,336 that we're going after right now. 304 00:11:10,336 --> 00:11:12,372 The home use is where the moolah is. 305 00:11:12,372 --> 00:11:14,107 That's, you know -- It's like toilet paper. 306 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:16,476 Everybody should have a StormBag box at home. 307 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:19,012 You know where I got mad at on that deal, Lori? 308 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:20,513 That little cute idea you had. 309 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,982 The little baby bags? I hated that you came out with that idea. 310 00:11:22,982 --> 00:11:24,150 I know. You got me on that one. 311 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:25,485 And even the little mini bag you can sell 312 00:11:25,485 --> 00:11:27,520 for $5.95 or $9.95. Eh, nobody's listening to you anymore. 313 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,188 Mark, she didn't even need you in that deal. 314 00:11:29,188 --> 00:11:31,858 [ Laughter ] 315 00:11:33,126 --> 00:11:34,227 Narrator: In Season 6, 316 00:11:34,227 --> 00:11:36,162 we watch David Heath and Randy Goldberg 317 00:11:36,162 --> 00:11:37,363 make a deal with Daymond John 318 00:11:37,363 --> 00:11:40,133 for their sock company with a mission -- Bombas. 319 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:42,302 Heath: We learned that socks are the number one 320 00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:44,404 most requested clothing item at homeless shelters. 321 00:11:44,404 --> 00:11:47,273 So for every pair of socks we sell, we donate a pair. 322 00:11:47,273 --> 00:11:49,309 Let's see what they're up to now. 323 00:11:49,309 --> 00:11:50,476 We definitely wanted to be one 324 00:11:50,476 --> 00:11:52,545 of the most successful companies on "Shark Tank," 325 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,847 but I don't think we ever thought it would come true. 326 00:11:54,847 --> 00:11:55,582 No chance. 327 00:11:55,582 --> 00:11:59,419 Our total sales in our first year of business was $900,000. 328 00:11:59,419 --> 00:12:01,120 And in our fifth year of business, 329 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,556 we were at $225 million. 330 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:06,125 And today, in our 10th year of business, 331 00:12:06,125 --> 00:12:08,695 we have done over $1 billion in sales. 332 00:12:08,695 --> 00:12:12,098 And that makes us the first billion-dollar company 333 00:12:12,098 --> 00:12:13,299 to get a deal in the Tank. 334 00:12:13,299 --> 00:12:15,368 We now have 186 employees. 335 00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:17,503 We manufacture in 15 different facilities 336 00:12:17,503 --> 00:12:19,372 across eight different countries. 337 00:12:19,372 --> 00:12:22,208 We founded Bombas with a mission to help those in need. 338 00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:24,577 One item purchased equals one item donated. 339 00:12:24,577 --> 00:12:27,013 And while achieving over $1 billion 340 00:12:27,013 --> 00:12:28,348 is an important milestone, 341 00:12:28,348 --> 00:12:30,416 an even more important milestone for us 342 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:34,220 is donating over 100 million items to those in need. 343 00:12:34,220 --> 00:12:36,122 Why do people love Bombas so much? 344 00:12:36,122 --> 00:12:37,290 Amazing product. 345 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:38,458 Amazing story. 346 00:12:38,458 --> 00:12:42,495 Over $1 billion. It shows that people want to give. 347 00:12:42,495 --> 00:12:44,530 Every time I bought this, I cleaned up the ocean. 348 00:12:44,530 --> 00:12:46,432 Every time I bought this, I stopped human trafficking. 349 00:12:46,432 --> 00:12:48,301 Every time I bought one of these garments on me, 350 00:12:48,301 --> 00:12:50,303 somebody in need got a pair. 351 00:12:50,303 --> 00:12:52,038 That's the double bottom line. 352 00:12:52,038 --> 00:12:54,240 $1 billion is the grade. 353 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,508 They got an "A" on their report card 354 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,543 and everybody else should copy them. 355 00:12:57,543 --> 00:12:59,679 And that's what Bombas wants people to do. 356 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,547 I'm so proud to be part of everything you're doing. 357 00:13:01,547 --> 00:13:05,251 I always say that every single thing in this world 358 00:13:05,251 --> 00:13:07,420 started with one person that had one idea 359 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:09,622 that took one action, and Dave and Randy 360 00:13:09,622 --> 00:13:12,325 and the entire Bombas community shows it. 361 00:13:12,325 --> 00:13:13,426 John: How you doing, man? Man: Hey, man. 362 00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:14,494 What's happening? How you doing? 363 00:13:14,494 --> 00:13:17,330 You know if you buy one pair of socks, 364 00:13:17,330 --> 00:13:19,132 you've helped one other person. 365 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:21,267 If everybody did one thing, 366 00:13:21,267 --> 00:13:24,103 an act of kindness like that in this world, 367 00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:25,338 think about where we would be. 368 00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:26,539 Pretty amazing. 369 00:13:26,539 --> 00:13:29,308 The impact that we're having is beyond our wildest dreams. 370 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:30,476 And it's just motivating us 371 00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:33,246 to continue to do something really good for the world. 372 00:13:33,246 --> 00:13:34,247 Nice to meet you. 373 00:13:34,247 --> 00:13:35,281 This company was built 374 00:13:35,281 --> 00:13:36,516 around a single idea -- 375 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:39,452 That a company can exist to serve its community. 376 00:13:39,452 --> 00:13:40,687 And that's what we're gonna continue to do 377 00:13:40,687 --> 00:13:44,057 as we build Bombas for the next generation. 378 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:46,959 [ Cheers and applause ] 379 00:13:54,334 --> 00:13:56,602 ♪♪ 380 00:13:56,602 --> 00:13:59,205 Narrator: Next up is an Earth-friendly option 381 00:13:59,205 --> 00:14:02,175 for one of life's big milestones. 382 00:14:02,175 --> 00:14:08,614 ♪♪ 383 00:14:08,614 --> 00:14:12,352 Hi, I'm Micah from Seattle, Washington. 384 00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:14,854 And I am the CEO and founder of Return Home. 385 00:14:14,854 --> 00:14:18,391 And I'm Katey, Return Home's licensed funeral director. 386 00:14:18,391 --> 00:14:21,527 Sharks, families of the 3.4 million Americans 387 00:14:21,527 --> 00:14:24,330 that die each year must choose between 388 00:14:24,330 --> 00:14:26,299 two really unsustainable options -- 389 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:27,800 cremation and burial. 390 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,438 Cremation is just plain terrible for the earth. 391 00:14:32,438 --> 00:14:34,340 Each year in the United States, 392 00:14:34,340 --> 00:14:37,210 the cremation industry burns enough fuel 393 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:38,644 to send a person from the earth 394 00:14:38,644 --> 00:14:42,648 to the moon and back 1,300 times. 395 00:14:42,648 --> 00:14:44,550 And caskets are so wasteful 396 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:46,252 that we could build a Golden Gate bridge 397 00:14:46,252 --> 00:14:48,287 each year from the steel we bury. 398 00:14:48,287 --> 00:14:49,655 As a licensed funeral director, 399 00:14:49,655 --> 00:14:51,457 I know the methods we use are toxic 400 00:14:51,457 --> 00:14:54,427 to both our planet and to our workers. 401 00:14:54,427 --> 00:14:57,663 The way we are dying is killing us. 402 00:14:57,663 --> 00:15:00,733 The Earth needs an alternative now. 403 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:04,570 And that is what we at Return Home have created. 404 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:07,373 Our process, which we call Terramation, 405 00:15:07,373 --> 00:15:10,510 gently transforms human remains into soil 406 00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:12,645 in just 60 to 90 days. 407 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:16,716 Rather than pollute the earth, air, and water when we die, 408 00:15:16,716 --> 00:15:20,319 Terramation ensures our last act on this planet 409 00:15:20,319 --> 00:15:22,488 is to give back to it. 410 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:23,856 When the process is complete, 411 00:15:23,856 --> 00:15:26,759 our families are left with beautiful life-giving soil 412 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:29,295 that can be returned back to the earth, 413 00:15:29,295 --> 00:15:30,730 restarting the cycle of life. 414 00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:32,498 The Terramated remains are returned home 415 00:15:32,498 --> 00:15:35,501 to the family or scattered at our eight-acre woodland, 416 00:15:35,501 --> 00:15:36,669 restarting nature's cycle 417 00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:38,571 and paying the gift of life forward. 418 00:15:38,571 --> 00:15:41,274 Sharks, the time is now. 419 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:45,311 For $2 million and 5%, 420 00:15:45,311 --> 00:15:46,546 we would love for you to join us 421 00:15:46,546 --> 00:15:49,315 to help revolutionize global death care 422 00:15:49,315 --> 00:15:52,285 and help millions return home. 423 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:53,486 Tell us about the company. 424 00:15:53,486 --> 00:15:55,421 Katey, why don't we try process first. 425 00:15:55,421 --> 00:15:56,456 Yeah. And we go from there. 426 00:15:56,456 --> 00:15:58,357 So people are placed in a vessel 427 00:15:58,357 --> 00:15:59,559 that looks just like this. 428 00:15:59,559 --> 00:16:01,360 You go into that vessel with straw, 429 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,762 alfalfa, and sawdust, 430 00:16:02,762 --> 00:16:05,431 and it's just the amazing microbes in our body 431 00:16:05,431 --> 00:16:06,866 that transform us into soil. 432 00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:08,734 So this vessel sits in our front of house, 433 00:16:08,734 --> 00:16:11,337 which is pictured here 30 to 40 days 434 00:16:11,337 --> 00:16:12,538 while it transforms into soil. 435 00:16:12,538 --> 00:16:14,574 And then the compost has to rest 436 00:16:14,574 --> 00:16:16,776 for a further 30 days before it's ready to return home. 437 00:16:16,776 --> 00:16:19,445 Greiner: Let's say you have 40 bodies, right? 438 00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:20,713 Where do you put all those? 439 00:16:20,713 --> 00:16:23,449 Like, those vessels take up a lot of room, don't they? 440 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:24,717 Yeah, we have 74 vessels total. 441 00:16:24,717 --> 00:16:27,687 Wow. Which means, we can take 74 people per month. 442 00:16:27,687 --> 00:16:30,623 Oh, my gosh. And we have a 12,000-foot warehouse. 443 00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:31,824 That's where all of our vessels are. 444 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:34,427 They're open, doors that open so families 445 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:35,628 can come and visit their vessel. 446 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:38,231 Can I just start with an overview of industry? 447 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:38,798 Sure. 448 00:16:38,798 --> 00:16:41,500 So, 3.4 million people die 449 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:43,669 in the United States every year. 450 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:47,240 Cremation is skyrocketing. Believe it's about 57% now. 451 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:47,840 Let's round up. 452 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,977 About 2 million people are getting cremated. 453 00:16:50,977 --> 00:16:57,516 Pricing -- $7,000 for a cremation with matching funeral. 454 00:16:57,516 --> 00:17:01,454 With burial, burial and funeral -- $8,000, 455 00:17:01,454 --> 00:17:03,522 does not include plot. 456 00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:06,259 Our price, including our service at our facility, 457 00:17:06,259 --> 00:17:07,860 $5,500. 458 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:09,362 Cuban: Is there any competition? 459 00:17:09,362 --> 00:17:10,363 Yes, there are. 460 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,397 There are three companies 461 00:17:11,397 --> 00:17:13,633 currently in Washington State. 462 00:17:13,633 --> 00:17:15,601 We are one. There are two others. 463 00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:16,836 Ours is utterly unique 464 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:19,839 in that our technology developed allows our families 465 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,909 to take part and be next to the process throughout. 466 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:26,512 What we allow is an experience that no one has seen. 467 00:17:26,512 --> 00:17:28,548 How did you get to doing this? 468 00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:30,483 I think Katey should go first. 469 00:17:30,483 --> 00:17:31,684 Katey, go first. She's more interesting. 470 00:17:31,684 --> 00:17:33,653 I was born and raised in England. 471 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:35,621 I moved to the United States at 18. 472 00:17:35,621 --> 00:17:38,591 I started being a funeral director in England at age 16. 473 00:17:38,591 --> 00:17:40,459 I went to my grandfather's funeral, 474 00:17:40,459 --> 00:17:41,694 and while it was average, 475 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:43,896 it was not something that represented him well. 476 00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:46,332 And I decided I could probably do a better job. 477 00:17:46,332 --> 00:17:47,600 And I have. 478 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,436 I have something in me that allows me 479 00:17:50,436 --> 00:17:51,637 to take care of a two-year-old 480 00:17:51,637 --> 00:17:53,005 for that mother after she passes away 481 00:17:53,005 --> 00:17:56,876 or take care of that husband who never got to come home. 482 00:17:56,876 --> 00:17:59,312 Funeral directing has completely changed my life, 483 00:17:59,312 --> 00:17:59,912 and it is something 484 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:02,481 I hopefully will do for a long time. 485 00:18:02,481 --> 00:18:03,683 So you have a lot of empathy. 486 00:18:03,683 --> 00:18:05,217 Right? Yes. 487 00:18:05,217 --> 00:18:05,718 And you? 488 00:18:05,718 --> 00:18:08,654 After college, went to China. 489 00:18:08,654 --> 00:18:10,556 There I both worked, 490 00:18:10,556 --> 00:18:11,991 at one point, I was running The Knot. 491 00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:13,960 You were running The Knot? China. China. 492 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,662 Okay. So, yeah, 20 years of my life in China. 493 00:18:16,662 --> 00:18:17,863 Moved back to the States 494 00:18:17,863 --> 00:18:21,500 and was trying to figure out the thing I needed to do. 495 00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,569 So you went from the wedding business 496 00:18:23,569 --> 00:18:25,805 to the human composting business? 497 00:18:25,805 --> 00:18:27,773 I wanted to build a company, 498 00:18:27,773 --> 00:18:29,642 no kidding, that the bigger it got, 499 00:18:29,642 --> 00:18:31,043 the better off the world was for it. 500 00:18:31,043 --> 00:18:33,813 Okay. And it was for that reason that I made that pivot, 501 00:18:33,813 --> 00:18:35,948 put the teams together, built the science, technology. 502 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:37,616 And here we stand in front of you. 503 00:18:37,616 --> 00:18:39,819 I like it. But this is your moment. 504 00:18:39,819 --> 00:18:42,321 You're on the "Shark Tank" carpet. 505 00:18:42,321 --> 00:18:43,656 5% of a business, 506 00:18:43,656 --> 00:18:45,558 and I have to give you $2 million to get it. Yes. 507 00:18:45,558 --> 00:18:47,660 It imputes a $40 million valuation. 508 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:48,794 It's not proprietary. 509 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:51,630 I could do it if I had some sawdust and a box. 510 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,600 Yes. I got it, but I need to understand 511 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,435 why you're worth $40 million. 512 00:18:56,435 --> 00:18:57,770 Sure. What are your sales? 513 00:18:57,770 --> 00:19:01,607 We did $350,000 last year. 514 00:19:01,607 --> 00:19:04,877 We have already matched $350,000, 515 00:19:04,877 --> 00:19:08,714 I think, as the end of May, and continuing to grow. 516 00:19:08,714 --> 00:19:09,915 How much did you make off the $350,000? 517 00:19:09,915 --> 00:19:11,784 We are a money-losing company. 518 00:19:11,784 --> 00:19:13,853 Oh, good! Oh, my goodness. [ Chuckles ] 519 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:15,855 So wait, how much money have you raised 520 00:19:15,855 --> 00:19:17,890 and at what valuation? 521 00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:21,660 We raised at a total of almost $5 million. 522 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:22,695 Whoo. 523 00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:24,797 What was the last valuation you raised at? 524 00:19:24,797 --> 00:19:26,666 $20.6 million. 525 00:19:26,666 --> 00:19:27,666 When was that? 526 00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:28,901 About a year ago. 527 00:19:28,901 --> 00:19:31,537 Wow. O'Leary: Okay. Why did you double the valuation 528 00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:32,905 from the last raise? 529 00:19:32,905 --> 00:19:35,541 Yeah. What's changed that would make you think 530 00:19:35,541 --> 00:19:36,642 you could come in here and say, 531 00:19:36,642 --> 00:19:38,010 "It's not worth $21 million anymore, 532 00:19:38,010 --> 00:19:40,579 it's worth $40 million"? He's gonna negotiate. 533 00:19:40,579 --> 00:19:42,682 A lot. 534 00:19:42,682 --> 00:19:44,483 Micah, this is your moment! 535 00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:45,818 Go, go, go! 536 00:19:45,818 --> 00:19:47,086 Let's go, 2 million bucks. 537 00:19:47,086 --> 00:19:50,756 Funeral homes are the worst marketers in the world. 538 00:19:50,756 --> 00:19:53,826 This is not about land grab. It's about brand grab. 539 00:19:53,826 --> 00:19:56,696 Tell me, guys, how many funeral homes 540 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:58,564 do you know that are amazing that are cross-country? 541 00:19:58,564 --> 00:20:00,433 Oh, Micah, you blew it. I'm out. 542 00:20:02,668 --> 00:20:04,937 Greiner: I mean, honestly, I want to understand 543 00:20:04,937 --> 00:20:07,673 why I should give you $2 million for 5%. 544 00:20:07,673 --> 00:20:08,974 Why are you worth that? Sure. 545 00:20:08,974 --> 00:20:11,744 Because you have done nothing to show me 546 00:20:11,744 --> 00:20:13,746 that your sales are anywhere near that. 547 00:20:13,746 --> 00:20:15,981 I'd like you to walk us through the unit profitability. 548 00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:18,084 What are your margins? $3,800. 549 00:20:18,084 --> 00:20:20,820 Including -- So it costs about $1,200 to transform a body. 550 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:22,888 We can transform 70 bodies a month. 551 00:20:22,888 --> 00:20:25,157 We are break even at 23, right? 552 00:20:25,157 --> 00:20:28,027 But are you saying that the reason you acquire customers 553 00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:31,764 is that it's cheaper or is it better? 554 00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:32,932 Because you have to make your decision. 555 00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:34,066 Because I'm looking at it -- 556 00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:35,801 This is not a money-driven decision on the family's part. 557 00:20:35,801 --> 00:20:37,837 Well, then why not charge the $8,000 that the burials do 558 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:39,105 except there's a better burial strategy? 559 00:20:39,105 --> 00:20:41,907 Well, because actually, we want to make sure 560 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:44,910 it's as ubiquitous and reachable as possible. 561 00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:47,680 I was hoping that there was more definition 562 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,881 of the business model. Sure. 563 00:20:48,881 --> 00:20:50,816 Because I like the deal, okay? I like what you're doing. 564 00:20:50,816 --> 00:20:53,152 Thank you. But I'm not confident yet 565 00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:55,788 that you have found the business model. 566 00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:58,591 Look, this is a better way to be put to rest. 567 00:20:58,591 --> 00:20:59,792 I totally agree. 568 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:01,127 It's a great innovation... 569 00:21:01,127 --> 00:21:02,661 Uh-huh. ...in terms of sustainability, 570 00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:03,829 That's the message. 571 00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:06,232 But you gave up 30% of your margin. 572 00:21:06,232 --> 00:21:08,033 Go higher. But if everybody's willing to pay $8,000, 573 00:21:08,033 --> 00:21:09,935 you're giving a discount death. Why? Sure. 574 00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:11,704 There's no reason. I'm out. 575 00:21:11,704 --> 00:21:13,072 I got it. Daniel. 576 00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:18,644 I-I could actually see myself accepting your valuation, 577 00:21:18,644 --> 00:21:19,945 but only if I close my eyes 578 00:21:19,945 --> 00:21:22,448 and kept them shut with Krazy Glue. 579 00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:23,849 [ Laughter ] 580 00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:27,453 Your valuation makes no sense. I'm out. 581 00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:30,122 John: First of all, I have a massive respect 582 00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,124 about people like you who deal with the -- 583 00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:35,060 with the more challenging aspects in life. 584 00:21:35,060 --> 00:21:37,930 And I've lost a lot of people in my life, so I do respect that. 585 00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:40,533 But I have to be passionate about 586 00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:41,767 everything I invest in, 587 00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:44,603 and I am not passionate about this, so I'm out. 588 00:21:44,603 --> 00:21:45,704 Yep. 589 00:21:46,906 --> 00:21:50,876 So I did Parting Stone last year, a deal with Kevin. 590 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:52,077 It's phenomenal. 591 00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:54,847 Take the ashes, you turn it to a beautiful stone. 592 00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:58,050 It's less expensive than all of this and... 593 00:21:58,050 --> 00:21:59,051 O'Leary: Absolutely. 594 00:21:59,051 --> 00:22:01,053 I feel that the valuation 595 00:22:01,053 --> 00:22:02,822 is a real stumbling block 596 00:22:02,822 --> 00:22:05,824 because I need proof, concrete proof. 597 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:07,826 And I really look at this 598 00:22:07,826 --> 00:22:10,863 and I feel like you need valuation evaluation. 599 00:22:10,863 --> 00:22:11,864 Got it. 600 00:22:11,864 --> 00:22:12,865 I'm out. 601 00:22:12,865 --> 00:22:14,066 Thank you, guys. 602 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:15,568 John: Thank you. Lubetzky: Thank you, guys. Good luck. 603 00:22:15,568 --> 00:22:16,068 Good luck, guys. 604 00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:17,069 We really appreciate you. 605 00:22:17,069 --> 00:22:18,704 And thank you for what you do. 606 00:22:18,704 --> 00:22:20,272 ♪♪ 607 00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:22,675 Truman: The Sharks were really tough on valuation. 608 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:23,909 I was high on valuation. 609 00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:26,111 It got into a snarl on that side, 610 00:22:26,111 --> 00:22:28,080 wanted very much to talk mission, 611 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,216 why it matters, why it changes the world so much. 612 00:22:30,216 --> 00:22:32,985 But obviously that was a hard one to shake 613 00:22:32,985 --> 00:22:35,821 and the Sharks were not ultimately interested. 614 00:22:35,821 --> 00:22:37,223 Narrator: For our milestone 15th season, 615 00:22:37,223 --> 00:22:39,959 we're counting down the top 15 "Shark Tank" companies 616 00:22:39,959 --> 00:22:42,094 with the highest total retail sales. 617 00:22:42,094 --> 00:22:46,265 Number 12 is CordaRoy's with $195 million. 618 00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:50,102 Number 11 is PRx Performance with $200 million. 619 00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:53,772 And number 10 is Squatty Potty with $260 million 620 00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:55,007 in total retail sales. 621 00:22:55,007 --> 00:22:56,775 Check out next week's episode 622 00:22:56,775 --> 00:22:57,776 for the next three. 623 00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:04,049 ♪♪ 624 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:05,284 Narrator: Next into the Tank 625 00:23:05,284 --> 00:23:09,054 is a discrete innovation in men's activewear. 626 00:23:09,054 --> 00:23:10,656 Oh, my goodness. 627 00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:17,963 ♪♪ 628 00:23:17,963 --> 00:23:19,565 Barbara would be going nuts. 629 00:23:19,565 --> 00:23:20,065 [ Chuckles ] 630 00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:22,067 Hey, Sharks, I'm Valentine, 631 00:23:22,067 --> 00:23:24,103 founder of Matador Meggings. 632 00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:29,208 I'm seeking 250K for 10% equity in my company. 633 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:33,245 Mr. Wonderful, I know you've always been jealous of Lori 634 00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:36,215 and all women for enjoying their lives in leggings. 635 00:23:36,215 --> 00:23:38,884 [ Laughter ] But also been quite concerned 636 00:23:38,884 --> 00:23:41,353 about exposing too much of your goodies. 637 00:23:41,353 --> 00:23:45,724 So I invented a sports bra for your man parts. 638 00:23:45,724 --> 00:23:49,495 [ Laughter ] 639 00:23:52,364 --> 00:23:56,101 Matador Meggings is an innovative activewear brand, 640 00:23:56,101 --> 00:23:58,137 best known for its men's leggings, 641 00:23:58,137 --> 00:24:01,006 specifically designed for the male anatomy, 642 00:24:01,006 --> 00:24:02,841 featuring a modesty pad 643 00:24:02,841 --> 00:24:04,310 that conceals the groin department 644 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:08,681 and gives you a perfectly rounded superhero crotch. 645 00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:09,982 [ Laughter ] 646 00:24:09,982 --> 00:24:11,750 Take it in. 647 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:12,985 Take it in. 648 00:24:12,985 --> 00:24:15,220 Studies show that compression pants 649 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:19,992 help increase blood circulation and activate minor muscles. 650 00:24:19,992 --> 00:24:22,928 This leads to improved performance during workouts 651 00:24:22,928 --> 00:24:25,097 and faster gr-- faster recovery. 652 00:24:25,097 --> 00:24:27,099 Oops. [Bleep] it up. I'll repeat. 653 00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:30,202 [ Laughter ] 654 00:24:30,202 --> 00:24:32,304 Studies show that compression pants 655 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:36,308 help increase blood circulation and faster recovery. 656 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:40,245 We offer leggings, compression shorts, and bike gear 657 00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:43,215 in over 50 unique prints and bold colors. 658 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:46,085 So, Sharks, show me a superhero 659 00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:48,053 who doesn't wear leggings. 660 00:24:48,053 --> 00:24:49,054 I'll wait. 661 00:24:49,054 --> 00:24:50,723 [ Laughter ] 662 00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:51,957 Oh, wait, I forgot. 663 00:24:51,957 --> 00:24:54,893 Here's my contribution to humanity. 664 00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:56,161 An open pocket for your phone. 665 00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:58,063 John: Uh-huh. Greiner: Mm-hmm. 666 00:24:58,063 --> 00:25:00,799 A zipper pocket for your valuables. 667 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,935 Nice. 668 00:25:02,935 --> 00:25:05,004 A T-shirt towel loop at the back. 669 00:25:05,004 --> 00:25:06,839 Oh. That's cool. Yeah, baby. Wow. 670 00:25:06,839 --> 00:25:08,107 Whoo! 671 00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:10,075 And high-performance, sweat-wicking 672 00:25:10,075 --> 00:25:11,810 silky-smooth fabric 673 00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:13,312 that feels like a second skin. 674 00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:16,815 Good job. I am ready to be eaten alive by your questions. 675 00:25:16,815 --> 00:25:17,383 Oh. Oh. Lay them on me. 676 00:25:17,383 --> 00:25:20,219 Let's talk about the package zone here. Okay. 677 00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:22,321 So it's a soft, molded crotch cup, 678 00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:27,092 also known as a modesty pad, that gives you that round shape. 679 00:25:27,092 --> 00:25:30,362 It's not gonna augment the groin department. 680 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:33,165 So all the products in the market, 681 00:25:33,165 --> 00:25:35,367 we're the only product in the market 682 00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,770 that offers this crotch solution. 683 00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:38,871 [ Laughs ] 684 00:25:38,871 --> 00:25:40,806 So, Valentine, how did you get here? 685 00:25:40,806 --> 00:25:41,306 Tell us about you. 686 00:25:41,306 --> 00:25:43,242 I was born and raised in Turkey. 687 00:25:43,242 --> 00:25:46,311 If you guys couldn't figure out by the accent or the charm. 688 00:25:46,311 --> 00:25:48,414 I'm an immigrant in the United States. 689 00:25:48,414 --> 00:25:51,483 I'm also half Spanish, hence the name Matador 690 00:25:51,483 --> 00:25:55,020 and all the Spanish influence on the brand's esthetic. 691 00:25:55,020 --> 00:25:57,189 I worked at Facebook for eight years 692 00:25:57,189 --> 00:26:00,058 building their global organization all around the world. 693 00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:01,260 What got you to this? 694 00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:04,363 Eight years ago, I was training to become a yoga teacher, 695 00:26:04,363 --> 00:26:08,066 and I found myself in a room full of women in leggings, 696 00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:10,969 and I was the only one who didn't wear them 697 00:26:10,969 --> 00:26:12,237 or, better said, couldn't. [ Laughs ] 698 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:15,441 So that day, I started looking for men's leggings 699 00:26:15,441 --> 00:26:18,444 that would conceal the groin department, and I couldn't find. 700 00:26:18,444 --> 00:26:20,379 So I said, "You know what? I'm gonna make it." 701 00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:24,316 I stole my sister's old bras, cut the foam out, 702 00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:27,319 and sewed it to a pair of old leggings that I owned. 703 00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,555 And voilà. That was my first prototype. 704 00:26:29,555 --> 00:26:32,591 Are there really no leggings for men that you know of? 705 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:37,463 Every single activewear brand sells one form of this product, 706 00:26:37,463 --> 00:26:40,098 but they're designed as an undergarment 707 00:26:40,098 --> 00:26:43,102 to be worn shorts over them. 708 00:26:43,102 --> 00:26:44,236 Are you making any money? 709 00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:46,038 I think you'll be happy to know 710 00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,407 that we've sold over $2 million... 711 00:26:48,407 --> 00:26:50,609 Oh! $2 million?! ...worth of this clothing. 712 00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:54,046 His package is expanding right now. Wow, in what time? 713 00:26:54,046 --> 00:26:55,414 In what time period? 714 00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:57,382 Aseyo: Exactly, because -- In what time period? 715 00:26:57,382 --> 00:27:01,253 Since we launched, a little bit less than three years ago. 716 00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:02,888 Okay, so what about the last -- What about this year? 717 00:27:02,888 --> 00:27:03,489 Last 12 months. 718 00:27:03,489 --> 00:27:06,592 Last year we did $620,000 in revenue. 719 00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:10,162 And this year our projection is to hit $1 million in sales. 720 00:27:10,162 --> 00:27:11,196 Whoa. 721 00:27:11,196 --> 00:27:14,199 The year before, we did $800,000 in sales. 722 00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:18,370 And our first year in the business, we did $365,000. 723 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:20,205 And are you running this alone? How are you selling it? 724 00:27:20,205 --> 00:27:21,240 Direct to consumers? 725 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,441 I am a one-man show. 726 00:27:22,441 --> 00:27:25,210 I do everything from design, development, manufacturing, 727 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:27,279 sourcing to marketing. Really? 728 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:30,315 Valentine, how many SKUs do you have? 729 00:27:30,315 --> 00:27:33,352 Currently we have 50. 730 00:27:33,352 --> 00:27:35,053 -50? -5-0? -Correct. 731 00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:36,255 Whoa. 732 00:27:36,255 --> 00:27:40,092 Talk to us a little bit about your costs and your profits. 733 00:27:40,092 --> 00:27:41,193 Of course. 734 00:27:41,193 --> 00:27:43,495 It costs $18 to make them, 735 00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:46,832 and we currently retail them for $92. 736 00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:48,233 Whoo! Nice. 737 00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:52,104 Talk to us about why your sales went down in 2022. 738 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,072 The first two years in the business, 739 00:27:54,072 --> 00:27:55,607 my pure focus was customer acquisition, 740 00:27:55,607 --> 00:28:00,112 but this year we shifted our entire focus to profitability 741 00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:02,314 because I have to start paying myself. 742 00:28:02,314 --> 00:28:06,351 So we dialed down on marketing dollars 743 00:28:06,351 --> 00:28:07,719 in order to increase profitability. 744 00:28:07,719 --> 00:28:10,689 Valentine, you said you were gonna do $1 million this year. 745 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:13,425 We're six months into the year. How much have you sold so far? 746 00:28:13,425 --> 00:28:17,296 So, so far we're over 200K, but keep in mind 747 00:28:17,296 --> 00:28:19,798 that we make our biggest sale in the second half of the year. 748 00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:23,068 Greiner: As gifts? So you're gonna make up two-thirds of it in the back end? 749 00:28:23,068 --> 00:28:24,169 Exactly, for example -- 750 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:25,470 All direct to consumer. You're not using -- 751 00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:29,408 All direct to consumer. 95%, 97% is direct to consumer. 752 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:32,344 There's nothing proprietary about taking a pad 753 00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:34,313 and sticking it in the package region, 754 00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:36,148 and the big brands that own this space 755 00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:38,317 that do billions of dollars in leggings, 756 00:28:38,317 --> 00:28:40,185 what stops them from doing it? 757 00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:41,320 I mean, if the market was big enough -- 758 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,554 You know what? I want them to copy it. 759 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:45,624 I want big brands to normalize this product 760 00:28:45,624 --> 00:28:48,060 so that they can grow the market size, 761 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:49,261 which will only benefit for me. 762 00:28:49,261 --> 00:28:50,529 Then how are you going to differentiate yourself? 763 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:52,497 Yeah, so our biggest differentiator 764 00:28:52,497 --> 00:28:54,399 is our colors and unique prints. 765 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,401 O'Leary: Valentine, if I give you the $250,000 766 00:28:56,401 --> 00:28:59,204 and you get run over by a truck, what do I got? 767 00:28:59,204 --> 00:29:01,173 A picture of you -- You got a broken truck. 768 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:02,407 'Cause look how fit he is. 769 00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:04,142 [ Laughs ] That's a problem. You are not a business yet. 770 00:29:04,142 --> 00:29:07,112 You've built a really interesting hobby. 771 00:29:07,112 --> 00:29:08,380 But I don't like my entrepreneurs 772 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:09,581 getting run over by trucks, 773 00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:12,884 and there's nobody backing them up, so I'm out. 774 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,089 So first of all, all the guys with the Mavericks 775 00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,390 wear compression leggings 776 00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:21,260 and almost all of them will just wear shorts over them. 777 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,494 Exactly. It's a hideous look. 778 00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:24,496 Well... And restricting as well. 779 00:29:24,496 --> 00:29:26,298 [ Laughing ] It's not restricting. 780 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:28,467 But... I'm a Yogi. So I'm, like, look at this. 781 00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:30,302 [ Laughter ] John: Get at it. Get at it, baby. 782 00:29:30,302 --> 00:29:31,403 There's absolutely no restriction. 783 00:29:31,403 --> 00:29:33,105 But... And everything stays in place. 784 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:34,106 That's right. Right. 785 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,240 So your competition 786 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,475 isn't Nike or whatever coming in. 787 00:29:36,475 --> 00:29:38,677 It's just guys putting on a pair of shorts, you know? 788 00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:42,447 And then the question becomes functionality versus look. 789 00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,282 You're gonna win the look side every time, 790 00:29:44,282 --> 00:29:45,384 and that's great. 791 00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:46,785 But for functionality, you know, 792 00:29:46,785 --> 00:29:49,521 you're not talking about the quality of the compression. 793 00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:52,357 And for athletes, that's gonna be most important. 794 00:29:52,357 --> 00:29:53,525 It's been a good business for you, 795 00:29:53,525 --> 00:29:55,494 but I don't think there's a large business there. 796 00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:58,063 So for those reasons, I'm out. 797 00:29:59,064 --> 00:30:00,132 Thank you. 798 00:30:00,132 --> 00:30:02,334 For me, looking at this product, 799 00:30:02,334 --> 00:30:06,271 I'm just not sure guys will wear it a lot. 800 00:30:06,271 --> 00:30:09,207 I don't know. So I'm sorry. I'm out. 801 00:30:09,207 --> 00:30:11,710 But there are other Sharks here. 802 00:30:11,710 --> 00:30:14,680 This is for a super active or good active person. 803 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,183 So that was my starting point, but I couldn't be more wrong. 804 00:30:18,183 --> 00:30:19,451 When I look at our customer base, 805 00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:23,388 I see huge diversity based on age, fitness level, body shape. 806 00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:25,424 But to get that scale, that high scale, 807 00:30:25,424 --> 00:30:27,592 if you don't know exactly who your customer is, 808 00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:30,262 you're using our money for tuition. 809 00:30:30,262 --> 00:30:31,296 We don't know who it is. 810 00:30:31,296 --> 00:30:34,366 It's mostly 25 to 55. 811 00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:35,667 Okay. It's not 18 812 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,602 because the product is relatively higher in price. 813 00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:39,304 You know, Valentine, I think your gift 814 00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:40,572 is the fact that you're agile. 815 00:30:40,572 --> 00:30:43,342 You know, this is a great business for you, 816 00:30:43,342 --> 00:30:46,278 but just not an investable business. 817 00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:47,245 So I'm out. 818 00:30:47,245 --> 00:30:50,449 ♪♪ 819 00:30:50,449 --> 00:30:52,284 The reason I'm struggling here 820 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:55,320 is that I actually really do believe 821 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,423 that the trend line is for comfortable wear. 822 00:30:58,423 --> 00:31:02,394 Where I think, um, I lost my confidence 823 00:31:02,394 --> 00:31:04,563 is when you were answering to Daymond, 824 00:31:04,563 --> 00:31:07,299 saying that this was for everyone, 825 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:08,633 'cause to his point, 826 00:31:08,633 --> 00:31:10,535 if you try to be everything to everyone, 827 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,637 you end up being nothing to no one. 828 00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:15,440 And I do think you need to spend a little bit more time 829 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,176 figuring out who's your target consumer. 830 00:31:18,176 --> 00:31:20,011 So for those reasons, I'm out. 831 00:31:21,646 --> 00:31:23,548 Thank you so much. Bye, guys. 832 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,050 Cuban: See you, guys. 833 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,151 John: Good luck. 834 00:31:26,151 --> 00:31:28,420 ♪♪ 835 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:31,423 Matador Meggings will be changing the world 836 00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:32,824 one meggings at a time. 837 00:31:32,824 --> 00:31:36,495 And this is gonna be the hottest trend of the year. 838 00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:38,697 There's nothing proprietary about this product. 839 00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:42,167 Why would you ever put a dime into this? 840 00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:43,535 It's a million bucks in sales 841 00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:45,670 in a multi-billion dollar industry. 842 00:31:45,670 --> 00:31:47,406 Right, so he's got a lot of room to grow. [ Chuckles ] 843 00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:49,241 Everything starts off like that. 844 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:50,275 Ah. 845 00:31:59,251 --> 00:32:00,552 ♪♪ 846 00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:03,555 Narrator: Next up, a Latin American food staple 847 00:32:03,555 --> 00:32:07,292 that the entrepreneurs hope will be big in the United States. 848 00:32:07,292 --> 00:32:15,400 ♪♪ 849 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,668 Hola, Sharks. I'm Mafe. 850 00:32:16,668 --> 00:32:18,503 And I'm her sister, Coco. 851 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,672 We're originally from Caracas, Venezuela, 852 00:32:20,672 --> 00:32:22,741 and together we founded TOAST-IT. 853 00:32:22,741 --> 00:32:25,510 We're here today seeking $100,000 854 00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:28,446 in exchange for 5% equity in our business. 855 00:32:28,446 --> 00:32:31,483 Sharks, when we move to the US from Venezuela, 856 00:32:31,483 --> 00:32:35,320 we spent years creating great South American food, 857 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,688 but we couldn't find authentic 858 00:32:36,688 --> 00:32:38,623 and convenient options in the market. 859 00:32:38,623 --> 00:32:41,726 And that is why we decided to create TOAST-IT, 860 00:32:41,726 --> 00:32:44,629 a brand of better-for-you Latin American food staples 861 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:47,732 that are ready to eat in under 10 minutes. 862 00:32:47,732 --> 00:32:50,468 We decided to focus on a South American classic, 863 00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:51,536 the arepas. 864 00:32:51,536 --> 00:32:52,704 It is a cornmeal bread 865 00:32:52,704 --> 00:32:55,740 that is crispy on the outside, fluffy on the inside, 866 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:58,743 and perfect for stuffing with your favorite fillings. 867 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:02,280 We offer different flavors from chia flaxseed to yuca 868 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,849 to our original corn recipe, 869 00:33:03,849 --> 00:33:06,685 all with zero added sugars and trans fats 870 00:33:06,685 --> 00:33:09,387 with three to four grams of protein per serving. 871 00:33:09,387 --> 00:33:10,755 And they're also gluten free. 872 00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,757 Sharks, the Hispanic community 873 00:33:12,757 --> 00:33:15,760 is the fastest growing minority in the US, 874 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,496 and the love for Hispanic food, 875 00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:19,564 it's mainstream across America. 876 00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:22,400 Who's ready to join us in becoming the go-to brand 877 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,636 for great and authentic Hispanic food? 878 00:33:24,636 --> 00:33:27,672 Alright, Sharks, let's try some samples. 879 00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:29,508 Cuban: Yeah, I'm starving. Greiner: Yeah. 880 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:32,777 What we have here today are our original arepas. 881 00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:35,347 They're filled with sweet plantain 882 00:33:35,347 --> 00:33:36,615 and queso blanco. Mm-hmm. 883 00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:39,451 We also have the chia flaxseed arepas 884 00:33:39,451 --> 00:33:40,819 with some guacamole. Mmm. 885 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:45,390 And our cassava, or yuca arepas with some mozzarella cheese. 886 00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:46,658 This is really good. 887 00:33:46,658 --> 00:33:47,692 Thank you so much. 888 00:33:47,692 --> 00:33:49,794 This is the classic with the cornmeal. 889 00:33:49,794 --> 00:33:51,730 It's a bread that you can do anything with. 890 00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:54,866 You can stuff it with all different fillings 891 00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:56,601 or you can top it as a toast. 892 00:33:56,601 --> 00:33:58,803 Is that kept refrigerated or frozen? 893 00:33:58,803 --> 00:34:00,739 Yeah, all of our products are frozen. 894 00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:02,173 But are you already in stores? 895 00:34:02,173 --> 00:34:04,643 That is correct. Yes. This is real packaging? You're already on the shelves? 896 00:34:04,643 --> 00:34:08,613 So we are currently in about 900 stores, 897 00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:10,649 including Publix, Walmart. 898 00:34:10,649 --> 00:34:11,850 Wow. We recently got distribution 899 00:34:11,850 --> 00:34:13,852 at Whole Foods Markets and Winn-Dixie. 900 00:34:13,852 --> 00:34:16,187 Congratulations. Also, Central Market in Texas. 901 00:34:16,187 --> 00:34:16,788 Wow. 902 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,456 Tell us a little bit about your background. 903 00:34:18,456 --> 00:34:20,458 So we're both originally from Venezuela. 904 00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:22,560 Like we mentioned, we're sisters. 905 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,729 We moved to the States about eight years ago 906 00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:26,898 basically because of the political and social turmoil 907 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:29,568 that the country is still currently facing 908 00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,903 and looking for better opportunities for ourselves. 909 00:34:31,903 --> 00:34:34,539 We worked really hard to get a good education 910 00:34:34,539 --> 00:34:36,474 and start our corporate careers here. 911 00:34:36,474 --> 00:34:38,276 I started working in one of the largest 912 00:34:38,276 --> 00:34:39,744 CPG companies in the US 913 00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:42,847 and my sister started her career in the banking industry. 914 00:34:42,847 --> 00:34:45,817 But there was something or a feeling between the two of us. 915 00:34:45,817 --> 00:34:48,720 We were missing a part of our culture and our traditions 916 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:49,988 and specifically our food. 917 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,590 And so we started thinking between the two of us, 918 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:53,959 like, what we could innovate. 919 00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:56,895 And so we started experimenting with recipes in our own homes 920 00:34:56,895 --> 00:34:58,697 while keeping our full-time jobs. 921 00:34:58,697 --> 00:35:00,532 We came up with the first SKU, 922 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:01,967 which is the traditional arepas 923 00:35:01,967 --> 00:35:03,868 that is ready to toast in five minutes. 924 00:35:03,868 --> 00:35:07,706 Did you have any background in manufacturing foods at all? 925 00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:08,773 Nothing. Nothing. 926 00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:10,041 We literally knew nothing. 927 00:35:10,041 --> 00:35:12,677 So what do you sell them for? How much do you make them for? 928 00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:15,580 What's the revenue? Let's talk cornbread. 929 00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:17,916 Sales last year were $200,000. 930 00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:21,953 This year we've made about $190,000 in just 5 months. 931 00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:23,822 So we're -- So you think you'll get to $400,000 this year? 932 00:35:23,822 --> 00:35:24,923 Greiner: You sold or you made? We're gonna get about to 933 00:35:24,923 --> 00:35:26,925 $500,000 by the end of this year. 934 00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:28,893 Yeah. We sell them for $3.23 935 00:35:28,893 --> 00:35:31,463 as a blended of the four SKUs. 936 00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,498 It costs us $2.30. 937 00:35:33,498 --> 00:35:35,767 So our gross margins are 30%. 938 00:35:35,767 --> 00:35:36,801 A little light. 939 00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:38,703 Yeah. A little light on the gross margins. 940 00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:41,606 After selling and distribution expenses, it's 20%. 941 00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:43,041 That's not good enough. We -- We -- 942 00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:44,676 What are you gonna -- What are you gonna do to fix that? 943 00:35:44,676 --> 00:35:45,877 Just packaging. 944 00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:49,381 We already have a deal to reduce packaging by half. 945 00:35:49,381 --> 00:35:50,615 And in ingredients, 946 00:35:50,615 --> 00:35:53,551 there's a lot of opportunity to bring costs down. 947 00:35:53,551 --> 00:35:54,686 And do you have competition? 948 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:56,054 Not in the frozen aisle. 949 00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:59,624 There are other arepas sitting in the... In the refrigerated. 950 00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:00,925 ...the refrigerated aisle. 951 00:36:00,925 --> 00:36:03,028 I like the product. I got to tell you why. 952 00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:06,631 I'm not a diabetic, but I monitor my glucose. 953 00:36:06,631 --> 00:36:08,833 So I wanted to try this root one. 954 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:11,736 It actually didn't spike it. 955 00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:12,971 Yay. So I found a bread I can eat. 956 00:36:12,971 --> 00:36:15,607 Thank you for bringing that up. That's amazing. 957 00:36:15,607 --> 00:36:16,875 This is a solution for me 958 00:36:16,875 --> 00:36:18,910 and lots of other people that diet the way I do. 959 00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:22,480 We don't eat gluten, and the taste is phenomenal. 960 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,181 Thank you. 961 00:36:23,181 --> 00:36:24,816 I love to invest in -- And back to what you were saying -- 962 00:36:24,816 --> 00:36:27,786 I love to invest in stuff that I use. 963 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:31,623 I -- I just -- I don't know how you're gonna make any money 964 00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:33,024 with these crummy margins. 965 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:34,626 This is actually the first year 966 00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:36,728 that we're actually gonna be profitable. 967 00:36:36,728 --> 00:36:38,863 But... Have you paid yourselves anything? 968 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:39,964 We don't. No. So that's the thing. 969 00:36:39,964 --> 00:36:41,199 Wow. We haven't been paying ourselves. 970 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,602 Okay, look, it's a flier. I'll give you the 100 grand. 971 00:36:44,602 --> 00:36:45,704 I want 20%. 972 00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:47,405 -Hmm. -Ooh. -Hmm. 973 00:36:47,405 --> 00:36:48,573 Um... 974 00:36:58,583 --> 00:36:59,818 Narrator: All Sharks are still in. 975 00:36:59,818 --> 00:37:02,153 Coco and Mafe have an offer on the table from Kevin 976 00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:04,956 for their South American arepas company TOAST-IT, 977 00:37:04,956 --> 00:37:06,791 but he wants a much bigger stake 978 00:37:06,791 --> 00:37:08,893 than the 5% that came in offering. 979 00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:11,362 I'll give you the 100 grand. I want 20%. 980 00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:14,766 There's only one Mr. Wonderful. 981 00:37:14,766 --> 00:37:16,901 Thank God for that. 982 00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:20,004 But, Mr. Wonderful, you're cutting our valuation by one -- 983 00:37:20,004 --> 00:37:23,374 Like, you're valuing it at $500,000. 984 00:37:23,374 --> 00:37:23,975 Oh, I know that. 985 00:37:23,975 --> 00:37:26,010 And that's what we're going to make this year. 986 00:37:26,010 --> 00:37:27,112 It's really unfair to valuate us at $500,000. 987 00:37:27,112 --> 00:37:28,980 One-time sales makes sense to me for a commodity. 988 00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:30,181 Greiner: That's right. Stick to your guns. 989 00:37:30,181 --> 00:37:33,651 Guys, I'll simplify things to help you figure things out. 990 00:37:33,651 --> 00:37:34,686 Look, it's a great product. 991 00:37:34,686 --> 00:37:36,688 Getting to $200,000 sales 992 00:37:36,688 --> 00:37:38,156 with the distribution you have, you know, 993 00:37:38,156 --> 00:37:41,126 from where you've started, it's phenomenal. 994 00:37:41,126 --> 00:37:43,895 It's just not something that I get excited about, 995 00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:45,663 even though the product is amazing. 996 00:37:45,663 --> 00:37:46,931 So for those reasons, I'm out. 997 00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:48,867 Mafe: Thank you so much. Thank you, Mark. We appreciate it. 998 00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:51,803 John: I love this, but my concern was... 999 00:37:51,803 --> 00:37:54,072 refrigerated trucks cost a lot. 1000 00:37:54,072 --> 00:37:57,809 Now there's not a lot of space in those grocery stores. 1001 00:37:57,809 --> 00:37:59,844 And for you to get where you have gotten, 1002 00:37:59,844 --> 00:38:01,713 I have no idea how you've done that. 1003 00:38:01,713 --> 00:38:05,016 So I will be purchasing this, but I'm out. 1004 00:38:05,016 --> 00:38:07,786 Thank you, Daymond. Thank you so much, Daymond. 1005 00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,921 I think you're so impressive. 1006 00:38:09,921 --> 00:38:12,991 Thank you so much. And you two are very mighty. 1007 00:38:12,991 --> 00:38:15,660 Thank you. You have gotten into five major retailers 1008 00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:17,629 in the shortest amount of time. 1009 00:38:17,629 --> 00:38:19,764 It's fantastic. 1010 00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:20,765 Thank you, Lori. 1011 00:38:20,765 --> 00:38:23,067 I tasted it. It's really delicious. 1012 00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:25,904 But it's not the right business for me. 1013 00:38:25,904 --> 00:38:29,941 So, this deal, I am out, but I'm not worried about you. 1014 00:38:29,941 --> 00:38:32,076 Thank you, Lori. Thank you so much. You're fantastic. 1015 00:38:32,076 --> 00:38:34,746 What is your path for improving your margins? 1016 00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:36,548 Because to Mr. Wonderful's point, 1017 00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:37,282 it's the more you grow, 1018 00:38:37,282 --> 00:38:40,952 the more you're digging a hole, and with a 33% margin, 1019 00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:42,854 you're not gonna be able to run a viable business. 1020 00:38:42,854 --> 00:38:45,156 So have you thought about what you're gonna do? 1021 00:38:45,156 --> 00:38:48,793 So we are attacking it at different fronts, right? 1022 00:38:48,793 --> 00:38:50,361 One is the machinery that we just bought 1023 00:38:50,361 --> 00:38:54,132 that's gonna help us optimize our production processes. 1024 00:38:54,132 --> 00:38:56,601 Second, we were able to negotiate 1025 00:38:56,601 --> 00:38:57,869 a better packaging deal 1026 00:38:57,869 --> 00:39:00,572 that cut the cost of our packaging by half. 1027 00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:01,773 One last question. 1028 00:39:01,773 --> 00:39:03,875 What level of commitment do you have? 1029 00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:06,711 Daniel, I mean, this is our baby. 1030 00:39:06,711 --> 00:39:07,946 It's my first baby. 1031 00:39:07,946 --> 00:39:10,048 I have the second baby in the belly currently. 1032 00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:11,149 -We can see that. -Congrats. 1033 00:39:11,149 --> 00:39:12,750 Thank you. O'Leary: Congratulations. 1034 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:13,952 Thank you. 1035 00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:16,955 We started this, as we said, from our own kitchen. 1036 00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:18,990 I was the first to quit my full-time job. 1037 00:39:18,990 --> 00:39:20,258 I had a great job. 1038 00:39:20,258 --> 00:39:23,895 And then, literally, my sister did the same thing. 1039 00:39:23,895 --> 00:39:27,232 We are extremely passionate about not only the product, 1040 00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:30,268 but our mission to promote our culture 1041 00:39:30,268 --> 00:39:34,072 and to be ambassadors of the food that we grew up eating. 1042 00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:35,273 John: Daniel, so you just know. 1043 00:39:35,273 --> 00:39:38,109 You know, Mr. O'Leary has an offer and their destiny... 1044 00:39:38,109 --> 00:39:39,944 My offer is getting toasted. 1045 00:39:39,944 --> 00:39:41,946 ...maybe in your hand. 1046 00:39:41,946 --> 00:39:43,915 Lubetzky: I like you guys. I like your energy. 1047 00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:47,185 I like your commitment. I don't like the margins. 1048 00:39:47,185 --> 00:39:52,957 I don't like -- The frozen space is very, very tricky. 1049 00:39:52,957 --> 00:39:57,262 Based on your $200,000 in sales... 1050 00:39:57,262 --> 00:39:59,330 the best I can do is to match his offer. 1051 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:04,168 So I will give you the $100,000 for 20%. Mm! 1052 00:40:04,168 --> 00:40:07,772 You need to decide if you want to swim with a shark 1053 00:40:07,772 --> 00:40:09,607 or be eaten by one. 1054 00:40:09,607 --> 00:40:10,708 Hmm. [ Laughter ] 1055 00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:14,912 ♪♪ 1056 00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:17,849 Would you do $150,000 for 15%? 1057 00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:20,752 I wouldn't do that deal. Sorry. 1058 00:40:20,752 --> 00:40:22,887 [ Speaking Spanish ] 1059 00:40:22,887 --> 00:40:24,722 I also give you that offer, Daniel. 1060 00:40:24,722 --> 00:40:25,857 [ Speaking Spanish ] 1061 00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:27,025 No, but you hurt my feelings. 1062 00:40:27,025 --> 00:40:29,827 No, no, no, I gave you the exact same offer. 1063 00:40:29,827 --> 00:40:31,329 I would love to work with you, Daniel. 1064 00:40:31,329 --> 00:40:35,099 I think there's so many things that we could do together. 1065 00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:36,801 What was your counter again? 1066 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:38,870 $150,000 for 15%. 1067 00:40:39,938 --> 00:40:41,806 That's a... 1068 00:40:41,806 --> 00:40:42,907 $1 million valuation. 1069 00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:44,042 [ Chuckles ] 1070 00:40:44,042 --> 00:40:47,378 I'm valuing the business at $500,000 one times-revenue 1071 00:40:47,378 --> 00:40:51,149 for a baked goods nonproprietary terrible margin business. 1072 00:40:51,149 --> 00:40:53,217 The only reason I like it is you guys. 1073 00:40:53,217 --> 00:40:55,920 And it doesn't spike my glucose. 1074 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,222 Lubetzky: I'll give you instead of $100,000, 1075 00:40:58,222 --> 00:41:02,894 I'll give you $150,000 for 20%. 1076 00:41:02,894 --> 00:41:05,797 ♪♪ 1077 00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:08,800 [ Conversing in Spanish ] 1078 00:41:12,937 --> 00:41:14,172 $150,000 for... 1079 00:41:14,172 --> 00:41:17,608 Guys, this is my final offer. It's a very generous offer. 1080 00:41:17,608 --> 00:41:20,778 ♪♪ 1081 00:41:20,778 --> 00:41:21,813 You have a deal, Daniel. 1082 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:22,847 [ Cheering ] 1083 00:41:22,847 --> 00:41:24,248 Cuban: Good job, Daniel. Good job, guys. 1084 00:41:24,248 --> 00:41:25,850 Greiner: Good job. Thank you. 1085 00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:28,953 [ Conversing in Spanish ] 1086 00:41:28,953 --> 00:41:30,722 Oh, I'm so glad to hear that. 1087 00:41:30,722 --> 00:41:32,890 [ Speaking Spanish ] 1088 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:35,193 Yay! We're so excited. 1089 00:41:35,193 --> 00:41:36,961 Greiner: Congratulations. Cuban: Congratulations, guys. 1090 00:41:36,961 --> 00:41:39,063 Thank you. Go out and crush it. 1091 00:41:39,063 --> 00:41:42,166 Yay! Coco: We are so excited to work with Daniel. 1092 00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,869 He is the dream Shark for us, 1093 00:41:44,869 --> 00:41:47,839 and I think we're gonna be a great team. 1094 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:49,807 [ Speaking Spanish ] 1095 00:41:54,812 --> 00:41:56,814 [ Both chuckle ] 1096 00:41:56,814 --> 00:41:58,149 We got a deal. 1097 00:41:58,149 --> 00:41:59,851 Narrator: Calling all high-school students 1098 00:41:59,851 --> 00:42:00,918 13 or older. 1099 00:42:00,918 --> 00:42:01,919 What was your favorite pitch 1100 00:42:01,919 --> 00:42:03,221 from tonight's episode and why? 1101 00:42:03,221 --> 00:42:06,190 Head to "Shark Tank's" official Instagram @SharkTankABC 1102 00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:07,959 and comment on our sweepstakes post 1103 00:42:07,959 --> 00:42:09,994 using #SharkTankSchoolSweepstakes 1104 00:42:09,994 --> 00:42:11,529 for a chance to win a video chat with a Shark, 1105 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:14,332 "Shark Tank" gear, or a visit to the "Shark Tank" set. 1106 00:42:14,332 --> 00:42:17,301 Go to ABC.com/sharktank for more details. 1107 00:42:17,301 --> 00:42:19,871 Winners will be contacted on Instagram. 1108 00:42:19,871 --> 00:42:21,072 We can only contact followers 1109 00:42:21,072 --> 00:42:23,608 of "Shark Tank's" official Instagram. 1110 00:42:28,146 --> 00:42:31,649 -- Captions by VITAC -- 1111 00:42:31,649 --> 00:42:39,857 ♪♪ 1112 00:42:39,857 --> 00:42:48,032 ♪♪ 1113 00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:56,674 ♪♪ 85603

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