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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:06,600 This film contains some strong language 2 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,560 WOMAN: Now, we come in peace 3 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,280 with the intent to increase and restore hope for the hopeless, 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,240 and love is the focus, 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,880 I pray that this message will reach far beyond the clouds, God. 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,400 We need you involved now. 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Your spirit is needed, so this isn't repeated. 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,520 Why is it like this, a crisis? 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,440 I cry with my white fist lifted for my brothers and sisters. 10 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,840 These little kids are becoming statistics. 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,160 Honestly, I'm questioning if this was intended. 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,760 It has been five decades since Flint used the river for drinking water. 13 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,600 Today, they open up the gates to start that process again. 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,200 Using river water for drinking water brings a unique set of challenges. 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,680 But the city of Flint is doing many things to make sure this water meets 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,080 the expectations of those who live in the city. 17 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,880 ALL: Three, two, one. 18 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Here's to the plant. To the plant. Hear, hear! 19 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 REPORTER: Flint residents have been dealing with a mountain of trouble 20 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,120 since the city began pumping water from the Flint River. 21 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,160 I don't trust it. 22 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Residents in some parts of Flint distrustful 23 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,760 of what is coming out of their taps. 24 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,760 This is the story of what happens next. 25 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,840 No, it's my ball. 26 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,680 I'm looping in all of these shots. 27 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,920 All the water hydrants in the neighbourhood, all running, 28 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:28,640 full blast, 24/7, 29 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,080 and the water, completely brown. 30 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,920 And that's when I really realised that something was wrong. 31 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:38,800 Can you beat me? 32 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Huh? 33 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,280 Liza, you're on my team. 34 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,000 Hey, hey, hey. 35 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,680 Hey, how's it going? They're kicking my butt. 36 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Our 12-year-old son, Jeremiah. 37 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,960 I got him. 38 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Oh, see, I told you. 39 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:08,080 It started off with the skin rashes and the itching. 40 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,840 What looked like chickenpox. 41 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,600 I know it's due to the water, 42 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,880 because he's never had these issues before, 43 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,160 and we've never had such serious health problems before. 44 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,600 I've been in and out of hospitals. 45 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:28,080 And then, these bumps started appearing all over my left arm. 46 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,680 Once it happened, we just stopped, 47 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,120 and started... went to baby wipes. 48 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Oh, baby wipes. 49 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,640 We have to... have to manage. 50 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 REPORTER: ..have been protesting about the water problems in Flint... 51 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,200 They go from being high-energy, 52 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:00,400 wanting to do things, to just wanting to sleep. 53 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,600 Go grab your jacket. Look in the hallway. 54 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,080 REPORTER: Residents have been complaining about the quality 55 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:06,520 of their water for months. 56 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Then lay down and do nothing at all. 57 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,520 TV: Quite disgusting. 58 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Their personalities have changed. 59 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,960 And ever since we started drinking the water, it has gotten worse. 60 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,760 HE SNIFFS 61 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,080 As a mother... 62 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,240 ..it breaks my heart, 63 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,640 because there's nothing I can do. 64 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,760 I want to go sit in the house. 65 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,600 Do you need a little bit more water? 66 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Now, we have it. 67 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Uh-oh, you're wasting more. 68 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,080 Right here. 69 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Oh, that's cold! 70 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,440 We need more, Mom. 71 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,920 We've got to heat the water up, 72 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,920 extra energy that I have to pay for. 73 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,440 MICROWAVE BEEPS 74 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,440 BOTH: Two, one. 75 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,520 HE MIMICS BEEPING 76 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Go in there. It's really hot, hot, hot. 77 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,520 You've got to get a lather. 78 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,640 I will never trust the water. 79 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,000 For months, the residents of Flint are told their water may look bad, 80 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,160 but it's perfectly safe, 81 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,720 by the very environmental agencies who were supposed to protect them. 82 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,720 My family and I drink the water every day. 83 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,320 It's your standard tap water. 84 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,960 You know, you taste a little bit of the chlorine. 85 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,800 We have to do some work on our water treatment plant. 86 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,720 And that'll save us some money, which, in the long term... 87 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,280 You're killing us! Sir! 88 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:07,880 I'm not killing anybody. 89 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,360 I think people feel that their bodies and their lives 90 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,320 and their wellbeing is being compromised. 91 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,840 I get in the shower and... Like she does. Excuse me. 92 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,680 There you go. On her back. 93 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,280 You going to kill me and my husband? 94 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:31,720 What you going to do? 95 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,840 I'm afraid to use the water in my home. 96 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:54,200 I'm afraid to go into my bathroom and take a shower. 97 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,840 The Flint River causes General Motors' car parts to rust. 98 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,680 It was one thing after another. 99 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,760 They were treating the water before filtering it, 100 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,200 which caused them to have to use more chlorine. 101 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,760 GM says those higher chlorine levels create some sort of corrosion. 102 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,320 They did the news broadcast, and I was like, 103 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,960 "If it's corroding parts, then what is it doing to us?" 104 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,840 It's gone. Yeah. 105 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,440 GIRL SCREECHES 106 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Yeah, she's trying 107 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,440 to be really helpful here. 108 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,160 But these are the five-gallon ones that we have to use. 109 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,760 BOTTLE GURGLES 110 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,440 I'm extremely upset. 111 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,000 They're literally messing with our children's lives. 112 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,520 OK, then, I'll match that. 113 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,320 SHE LAUGHS 114 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Yellow. Yellow? Yellow. 115 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,040 Uno. Where's your piece? 116 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,440 No, uno. Oh, you did... 117 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,680 You've got to pick up the cards. 118 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,760 SHE LAUGHS 119 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,760 He got you. 120 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,160 I keep the door closed and I keep the desk in front of the door. 121 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,640 I've not used it since they did the switch to the Flint River. 122 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,920 So, this was my getaway... 123 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,440 ..at home. 124 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,960 And now it's not. 125 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,200 There's nothing more fundamental to your life than water. 126 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,440 And for that to be what can actually hurt you, cripple you or kill you 127 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,560 is just something that you could never get over. 128 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,240 RADIO PRESENTER: Flint's news on 1470 WFNT. 129 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Dan Foley here with you. 130 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,760 We've got a lot of guests we're going to talk to. 131 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Dan Foley, Sherman Mays. 132 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,720 The political aspect of it, people are swooping in here. 133 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 You get this crisis of trust. 134 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,120 And the question is, who do you trust and what do you turn to? 135 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,320 We're going to play a little bit of this and we'll come back. 136 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,120 No, I don't need the last break. 137 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,440 I love my job. I love what I do here. 138 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,680 I've been here almost 20 years. 139 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,960 There's a certain toughness. 140 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,760 There's an attitude. 141 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,720 Flint courage, Flint love. 142 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,080 Bravery, bones. 143 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,440 Every resident of Flint, we are soldiers. 144 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,400 And you root for Flint. 145 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Obviously, huge, huge problems. 146 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,600 There's challenges for Flint, absolutely. 147 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,040 You've got a shrinking city, 148 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,760 you've got a tax base that's just destroyed. 149 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,200 There's not a lot of money in the city of Flint. 150 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,640 You hate to see what it's become. 151 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Oh, Flint high, Flint strong, Flint proud. 152 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,720 But this city was the Silicon Valley of the day. 153 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,680 It's amazing, the history in Flint. 154 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,320 ARCHIVE: Here's the very first GM car. 155 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Giant assembly plants - the great producing units 156 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,560 of the nation's mightiest manufacturing enterprise await. 157 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,360 New wealth flourishes, and new prosperity grows. 158 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Booming - richest city in the country... 159 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,280 The whole city rocking - Flint, Michigan, 160 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,680 throws a birthday party... 161 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:11,040 50 million General Motors cars... 162 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,880 America says, "Now I know why people love Flint!" 163 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,320 So, the population peaked at about 190,000 in the 1970s 164 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,640 and about 80,000 people worked in the shops there. 165 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,360 General Motors confirmed today it is going to close plants 166 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,880 employing almost 30,000 workers. 167 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,280 By 2010, the population is cut in half 168 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,440 and only 8,000 are still working for GM, 169 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,080 less than 10% of what it was. 170 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,240 According to the FBI, 171 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,000 Flint now has the highest violent crime rate in America. 172 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,520 The city enters a period of wrenching economic decline. 173 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,120 I, Richard D Snyder, do solemnly swear 174 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,760 to uphold the Constitution of the United States, 175 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,720 in the office of governor. 176 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Promising to turn things around, 177 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,440 a new governor, Rick Snyder, pledges to run Michigan like a business. 178 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,000 The old ways don't work. 179 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,760 I'm an accountant and your governor. 180 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,360 I've found I can help more people when the numbers add up. 181 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,840 The governor strips the Flint City Council of its powers, 182 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,720 and his team makes deep cuts to police, fire protection 183 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,760 and other public services. 184 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Our city is gripped by a spirit of hopelessness. 185 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,120 People are saying, "I have no voice, I have no democracy." 186 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,440 What's more important? 187 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,600 What's more valuable? 188 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Is it the budget, or is it your citizens? 189 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Now we're talking about cutting police and fire. 190 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Then what? 191 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,360 Do we close the doors on the city? 192 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,560 We're on the road to recovery for every Michigander. 193 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:05,960 You might not feel it yet, but you will soon. 194 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,680 To save more money, the state also forces the city 195 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:16,400 to stop using water from the Great Lakes... 196 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,440 ..and instead, switch to the Flint River. 197 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:43,280 Here's to Flint! Hear, hear! 198 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,480 The change was made to save $5 million. 199 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Oh, wow. 200 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,960 So you'll be able to see along the wall how low - 201 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,200 you can see the water lines, and how low the river is. 202 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,560 You can look right down to the bottom and see car parts, 203 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,400 tyres, shopping carts. 204 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,120 You shouldn't be able to. 205 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Everything that's just been thrown in there because the Flint River 206 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,480 has been a dumping site for 100 years. 207 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,480 Half the time, you walk down the river, you find a body floating. 208 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,640 The animals that go drink from it, they die. 209 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,360 So the thought that we would actually be drinking this, 210 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,520 most of us just thought it was a joke. 211 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,800 Flip the switch and run the water on warm, 212 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,720 and then tell me if anything is discoloured. OK. 213 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,440 Thank you. Love you. 214 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,640 So, here is Water You Fighting For? 215 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,160 What we do is we collect news articles, scientific research, 216 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,000 anything that's happening, videos... 217 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,360 Watch what comes out of my drinking tap. 218 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,880 Some of our preliminary research, 219 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,280 this is just some of the things that people have sent us. 220 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,200 I want to know where were the trouble areas in the city. 221 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,920 The red stars are people that have had medical issues - 222 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,560 hair loss, rashes, bad colour and odour. 223 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,800 So if they checked off all those on the sheets, we put the stars on. 224 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,560 I'm grateful for you guys to get out on the front line 225 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,360 and do the political work and investigative work. 226 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,960 My husband designed these door hangers. 227 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Basically says, "Please be advised, we're here to help us help you." 228 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,760 What do we want? Clean water! When do we want it? Now! 229 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,920 Flint lives matter! Flint lives matter! 230 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,200 Fix our pipes! Fix our pipes! 231 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,680 We have come to pray - 232 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,000 broken spirits, broken lives. 233 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,640 See what happens when you elect a businessman to run the state! 234 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,200 He doesn't care about the people that he hurts. 235 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,920 He doesn't care about the lives he affects! 236 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Enough is enough! 237 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,520 We want our water fixed now! 238 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Taking matters into their own hands, 239 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,800 residents organise their own city-wide water testing 240 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,960 with the help of Professor Marc Edwards, 241 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,520 a highly decorated scientist from Virginia Tech University. 242 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,640 Do you have pictures of those at all? 243 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Pull out the data for these. 244 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,760 He made his reputation uncovering a water contamination scandal 245 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,680 in Washington DC. 246 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,320 We're one of the few labs in the country, a CSI of plumbing, 247 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,480 if you will, that solves people's problems 248 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,480 that they experience in their houses, 249 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,520 and it's proving to be the research frontier of the 21st century. 250 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Can you do that? Look straight at the camera. Come here. 251 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,320 Hold still. 252 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,920 We're a pretty normal family of five. 253 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 My husband and I have been married for 19 and a half years, 254 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,840 and we have three amazing sons, Caleb, Christian and Cole. 255 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,200 And we do normal things. 256 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,200 HEAVY METAL MUSIC 257 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,960 I am a promoter. 258 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 I manage bands. One actually practises in the house. 259 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,320 In that same general vicinity, you will see an autographed guitar. 260 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,000 So make sure you get your tickets 261 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,880 because that is a one... That guitar one... 262 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,080 One of a kind! I'm not even drinking yet! 263 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,040 One of a kind guitar! Speaking of drinking, 264 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,840 I think I should get started, so should you, 265 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,120 but right now, I want you guys to give it up for Portals! 266 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:34,520 Thank you, Melissa! 267 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 OK, will you put these under the sink? Give those to Dad, 268 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,720 and then put this up in the cabinet for me, please. 269 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Thank you. 270 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,240 We have a government state not listening to us, 271 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,960 so we are testing 300 people's homes. 272 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,400 This photo is awesome. 273 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,800 This is Virginia Tech. 274 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,480 They have students over in Virginia that are sending us 300 test kits. 275 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,680 They're sending us the bottles. 276 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,960 Next week, we're going to test people's homes, and we are going 277 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,800 to get accurate answers for copper and lead. 278 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Everything you're going to need to do the sampling 279 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,160 is in the sampling kit box that you receive. 280 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,160 And let that first litre fill up. 281 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,280 When it's done, I'll take note of the time, 282 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,520 and set them all aside 283 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,240 and let the tap run for 45 seconds. 284 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,640 When we started this, we didn't know what we'd find, but we had to act. 285 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,360 I mean, children literally, I felt, were unprotected... 286 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,040 ..by the law. 287 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,200 By the agencies who are paid to protect them. 288 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,160 This is a bottle we put the water in. 289 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,440 We walked them through and we sent everybody the YouTube link. 290 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,200 It's time to repackage them to send them back to Virginia Tech. 291 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,920 Do you need someone to pick it up? 292 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,840 OK, where are you located? 293 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,080 We're going to send them to Virginia Tech. 294 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,400 Seal it up... 295 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Everyone's complaining, why is my water red? 296 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,880 Why does my water taste bad? 297 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,600 Yeah, we've got an outsider, ain't no politics in it, you know? 298 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,280 He has no reason to come in here and tell us a story. 299 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,640 This is Marc you're talking about? Right. So I was like, "Great!" 300 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,680 We've got an outsider doing it, 301 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,160 and everybody kind of was looking for somebody to tell the truth. 302 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Volunteers deliver hundreds of water sampling kits 303 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,760 to homes throughout the city. 304 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Should be the first left after Port Street... 305 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,480 I've been here since I was two, and I'm 66. 306 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,880 This is it! Yup! 307 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,800 What kind of water does he drink? I give him bottled water. 308 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,640 I mean, it's just heart wrenching. 309 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,760 It's like, "What?! Are you serious?" 310 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,720 People are going through a lot with this water. 311 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,520 In just six weeks, the volunteers collected ten times as many samples 312 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,000 as the state government tested in the previous six months. 313 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 All the bottles are being shipped back to the lab this week 314 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,440 and we should have the results next week. 315 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Over 585 volunteers, we got 277 tests back. 316 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,360 This is what America is about. 317 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:12,400 The people do rule, and you are proving that. 318 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,840 We have people with 158 parts per million lead... 319 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,600 Melissa was just incredible. 320 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,440 She was always there, front and centre, truly heroic. 321 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,600 This is a collaboration between people who are affected 322 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,440 by the water and scientists who can come and say, 323 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,440 "No, this is not right. 324 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,920 "They're telling you things that aren't true." 325 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,880 90% return rate. 326 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,840 I've never heard anything like it. 327 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 In fact, I would have bet money to say it wouldn't be possible. 328 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:44,080 30... Double check, triple check everything. 329 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,200 OK, so you're here for the press conference. 330 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,040 We're going to be setting up over here. 331 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 So if you want to be on camera, go that way! 332 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,400 Everybody, thank you for coming. I'm Melissa from Water You Fighting For? 333 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,640 Today is a huge, huge day for the water fight in Flint. 334 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,760 This is what... 335 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,160 This is what some of the water across the city looks like. 336 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,440 I've sampled water personally from people's homes. 337 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,000 It looks like this. 338 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,680 This is occurring because the water is too corrosive. 339 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,400 It has too much salt in it. 340 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,520 And there was no plan to control the corrosion. 341 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Flint is the only city in America that I'm aware of 342 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,760 who does not have a corrosion control plan in place 343 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,080 to stop this kind of problem. 344 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,000 So, on the basis of the sampling that Virginia Tech conducted 345 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,280 in collaboration with Flint residents, 346 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,840 we estimate that the water in about 5,000 Flint homes 347 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,200 is over standards set by the World Health Organization 348 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,000 for lead in water. 349 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,400 It's a tragedy, it's outrageous, 350 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,680 and somebody needs to go to prison! 351 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,000 When you see your child's health go down so drastically... 352 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,360 ..it affects you, 353 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,800 because there's nothing you can do. 354 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,480 And we need help. 355 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Basically, the bottom line is, 356 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,680 stop trying to come up with ways to hide the lead. 357 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,280 Lead exposure has lifelong cognitive and behavioural consequences 358 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,280 that you do not see right away. 359 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,200 So when paediatricians hear "lead", they freak out. 360 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Lead is one of the most damning things you can do to a child. 361 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,440 How will you know it was lead? 362 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,200 If they send it out to a lab. 363 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Hopefully, that's not going to be the case for you. 364 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,560 Aah! 365 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,480 I needed to find out if that lead in water was getting into the bodies 366 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,800 of our children. 367 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,240 I right away contacted our research department 368 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,920 and we found the exact same thing. 369 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Our elevated blood lead levels were in the exact same locations 370 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,640 where the water lead levels from the Virginia Tech group were increased, 371 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,400 so it implicated that it was the water as a source. 372 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200 I just had a physical gut reaction 373 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,880 that this is so bad. 374 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,120 A new study is showing an increased level of lead in young children. 375 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,800 For kids less than five years of age, for all of Flint, 376 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760 there was an almost doubling of the percentage 377 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,760 of kids with elevated blood lead levels. 378 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,840 I never in my life thought that in Michigan, 379 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,600 you would go through something like this. 380 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,960 The results shock Flint, 381 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,640 and then all of America. 382 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,640 Growing outrage in Flint, Michigan... 383 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Flint, Michigan... 384 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,680 ..where water has been poisoned with lead... 385 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Residents have fought for themselves... 386 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Federal, state and local agencies all reportedly had evidence 387 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,800 the water was bad... 388 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,320 The people of Flint did not bring this on themselves. 389 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,120 Through no fault of their own, 390 00:23:56,120 --> 00:24:00,000 they were poisoned by their state's government. 391 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,760 That's what settles into the bottom. 392 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,800 The water will actually get clear when you let it sit 393 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,440 and all of it will settle to the bottom, and then you shake it up. 394 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,920 And you get this out of the kitchen taps. 395 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,720 13,000 parts per billion lead - 396 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,800 I mean, hazardous waste is defined as 397 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,160 anything over 5,000 parts per billion. 398 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,760 So her children were literally taking a bath in hazardous waste. 399 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,720 The river water is so corrosive, it tears off the protective layer 400 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,320 from inside of Flint's lead pipes. 401 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,920 It sends toxic particles into the drinking water supply, 402 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,760 poisoning tens of thousands of people. 403 00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,120 It's like sewage water. 404 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,400 Yeah, it's not very healthy-looking, is it? 405 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,280 Lead crosses your blood brain barrier. It's a neurotoxin. 406 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,120 It causes irreversible brain damage. 407 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,640 So detecting it in children is too late. 408 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,640 It is that canary in the coal mine. It's already too late. 409 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,480 We have just altered the life course trajectory 410 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,680 of an entire generation of Flint children. 411 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,200 Despite his earlier claims that Flint River water is safe, 412 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,360 Governor Snyder is forced to allow the city 413 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,400 to use water from the Great Lakes once again. 414 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,080 Yesterday afternoon, we had a technical advisory council meeting. 415 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,400 I'm in full support of a return to the Great Lakes Water Authority. 416 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,640 We believe, based on the technical recommendations, 417 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,160 it will be better for the citizens of Flint in terms of public safety, 418 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,040 which is our paramount concern. 419 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,800 CHEERING 420 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,440 The first response I feel is victory. 421 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,280 Victory because, you know what? 422 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,240 We gave them the science. 423 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,640 We didn't stop fighting, and they had to make the change. 424 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,320 The people of Flint are assured the water crisis is all but over. 425 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,160 While this is a victory, 426 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,960 we need to still make sure 427 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,760 that we remain on message, 428 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,120 and we remain in the fight, 429 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,320 because it's that thing where it's like they give you a little bone 430 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,200 and then they hope you're going to be happy with that bone. 431 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600 I see you have your water filter there from Governor Snyder. 432 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Do you know how to use it? I'll open the box up... 433 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,640 I've still got to pay a $207 water bill this month. 434 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280 I don't know. I guess I'll have to read the instructions. 435 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320 And you do have to buy replacements for these. 436 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,600 They say you're not going to drink it, but if you haven't got 437 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,080 any money, can't buy no water, what are you going to do? 438 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,040 'Governor Rick Snyder and his wife now drinking filtered water 439 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,480 'from Flint...' 'For the next 30 days.' 440 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,360 I don't want this to be viewed as a gimmick kind of thing. 441 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,920 This is something serious to me. 442 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Even though the river is no longer being used, 443 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,640 the drinking water in many Flint homes 444 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,200 continues to show high levels of lead. 445 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,440 A couple of weeks ago, I saw a thing on TV 446 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,560 about, you should get your water tested. 447 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,440 The water levels that have been tested were now online. 448 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,640 So I went to MichiganGov/FlintWater. 449 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,040 The very, very last one, as I scrolled down, 450 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,320 there was mine at the bottom of the page. 451 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,960 My lead - 5,447. 452 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,800 We didn't really have a lot of discoloration in the water, 453 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,880 so it was very surprising to find out that 454 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,400 my water is one of the worst in Flint. 455 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,040 "The Virginia Tech Department of Civil Environmental Engineering 456 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,120 "has completed a lead analysis of your tap water sample. 457 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,720 "The first drawn was 7.2, 458 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,200 "and the next one was 1,051." 459 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,880 Oh, gosh. 460 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 According to Federal guidelines, lead levels in drinking water 461 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,640 over 15 parts per billion are deemed dangerous. 462 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,920 The lead levels in this house are 70 times higher. 463 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,520 They explained that I was not supposed to, er, 464 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,800 you know, brush my teeth with it, or anything like that, you know? 465 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Don't drink the water in here. 466 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920 You know, it's water! 467 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,680 This is the second worst house in terms of lead in the city of Flint. 468 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360 In science, you learn from studying extremes, 469 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160 like, why is there a problem here? 470 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760 So we're going to pull out her pipes. 471 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Then we'll take the pipes home, back to our lab. 472 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,560 We'll cut them open and try to see what went wrong - 473 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,080 why is there so much lead? 474 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Is there something about living in a remote area that kind of helps 475 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,680 you deal with all this? 476 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400 No question. It's a refuge, 477 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320 and it's also something that gives you more appreciation 478 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,560 for people than perhaps you have when we lived in the cities. 479 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120 You know, Virginia Tech's a land-grant institution. 480 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,480 We have a very service oriented mission, 481 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,800 and I think that's one of the reasons they've tolerated me 482 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,480 as long as they have, 483 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320 because our motto is "Ut Prosim", 484 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 and that means "That I May Serve". 485 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,480 And to some extent, all of the trouble I've gotten into 486 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,000 has exemplified that motto. 487 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,720 So these are the front pages 488 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040 with the residents, and we really put ourselves out there. 489 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,200 The Washington Post article. 490 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,840 This is an example of a lead pipe from Flint. 491 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960 This lead pipe would last probably 3,000 or 4,000 years. 492 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,760 It was legally required that if a customer wanted to connect 493 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,040 to the water main, they had to use lead, because it protected 494 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600 the city's interest - it would not leak. 495 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Thus, lead's reputation as a great plumbing material, 496 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,400 except for the drawback that it poisons people 497 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,960 and causes foetal death and miscarriages. 498 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,080 You see that coming out there? That's lead rust. 499 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,280 That's enough lead 500 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,000 to cause lead poisoning in more than 3,000 children. 501 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320 Though Flint has the worst poverty rate 502 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,680 of any city in the United States, 503 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,320 residents continue to pay the nation's highest water bills. 504 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,880 So I have to get in line in a minute here and pay for my poison. 505 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,280 You grow up in America thinking that this is the land of the free 506 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,800 and the brave, and find out that that's totally not true. 507 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080 If the state finds out that you have kids in your home 508 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,640 and you don't pay your water bill, 509 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,280 then they start harassing you 510 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960 because you don't have running water in the home. 511 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,920 They do anything and everything to make it the citizens' fault, 512 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680 even using your own children against you. 513 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,040 So, out of fear, we pay for it. 514 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,480 Volunteers try to fill the gap in the governor's response 515 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,160 to the crisis. 516 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,920 A non-profit organisation, that's what we come in as, you know? 517 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,400 It's our job and our duty to come up here and help them, 518 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,880 no matter what colour or race, we come up here, 519 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,920 and we've still got water that we collected that we haven't even brought up here yet. 520 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,520 What a wonderful time of year to be in Michigan 521 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,200 with our friends and families. 522 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240 We're fortunate to live in such a wonderful state and nation. 523 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640 We're thankful for our family and friends, 524 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120 our health, and so much more. 525 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,960 Happy holidays, Michigan. 526 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160 Two weeks after his Christmas message, 527 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,920 Governor Snyder finally agrees to provide one case of bottled water 528 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440 a day to each Flint family. 529 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,200 Is there any way that we can get more than one? 530 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,800 My daughter had a rash on the back of her neck. 531 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,520 My youngest daughter. She's two years old. 532 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,560 She just... She's been sick, 533 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,000 and we've been taking her to the hospital. 534 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Thank you. 535 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,920 Oh, yes, OK. 536 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,640 I think we shouldn't have to go to them to pick it up. 537 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040 What about the people who don't have transportation? 538 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,240 You know, they have to get on the bus, come down here, pick up water. 539 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,680 There's snow! 540 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,800 They have a sign out that says one per household, one per day. 541 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800 If you have six children 542 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,200 and you're only giving out one case of 24, 543 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680 how does that help? Especially if you're making formula. 544 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,640 I have never gotten more than one case of water from this location. 545 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,520 Ever. The camera does make a lot of difference. 546 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,480 Big time. 547 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,200 So, thank you. 548 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Hi, how are you doing? 549 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,160 I volunteer with Michigan Faith in Action, 550 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,320 and we're here to see if you need any water. 551 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,440 You know, you can't boil the water. 552 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,840 I just found that out. I've been cooking my oatmeal and my grits... 553 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Yeah. ..and my spaghetti. Lead is not like bacteria, 554 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,120 like E coli. It's metal. 555 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,840 Boiling is actually making it worse, making it stronger in the water. 556 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,960 Here's some health information about it. 557 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,000 So with everything, this needs to be changed every two to three weeks. 558 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Oh, really? Yeah. And you don't want... Nobody told me that. 559 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520 This is why we've been going door to door. 560 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,240 This used to be my dining room. 561 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:43,080 Some of this is for my family, and some of this is for the elderly 562 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000 that I deliver to every two weeks, to make sure they have water. 563 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,920 We're doing the state's job for them. 564 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,720 They should be going door to door. 565 00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,160 They should be, like, talking to people 566 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,320 and really, like, assessing, like, this is the damage. 567 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,800 Hi, how are you? 568 00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,520 So, do you have bottled water? 569 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080 I have one, yeah. I stopped to pick up. 570 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,960 So when's the last time you changed your filter? 571 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080 Um... You're supposed to change it every two weeks. 572 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,440 Every... Oh, really? Yeah. Every two weeks? Yeah. 573 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,920 I don't want to discourage people from being helpful in contributing 574 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,800 to this crisis, because it's great to see the volunteer efforts, 575 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,120 the outpouring of efforts. 576 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Again, I encourage people to go to HelpforFlint.com 577 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,440 and look at financial contributions, because again, much water 578 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000 is coming in, hopefully we'll get the water issue addressed. 579 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,080 I do appreciate people paying their bills. 580 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080 There's a sewer portion of this bill and people are using that function. 581 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,880 Governor, have you been into a Flint home yet? 582 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160 Have you been into one Flint home yet, Governor? 583 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,840 Last question. 584 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,480 Governor Snyder. You insist that the water here in Flint 585 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,880 is safe to drink, to bathe and shower in. 586 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,040 I wonder why the people of Flint should trust you? 587 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,600 Filtered water has been determined to be safe for people to drink, 588 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440 except for children, and for pregnant women. 589 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,400 One house last month tested 22,000 parts per billion lead. 590 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,520 Is it safe for them to use a filter and drink that water? 591 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,280 That would be a particle. 592 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,800 And if it's 22,000, that's a really big particle. 593 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,080 It turns out there was a problem with the water filters 594 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,560 Governor Snyder says will keep people safe. 595 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,080 Many residents just can't get them to work. 596 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,520 It fell off a couple of weeks after, 597 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040 and it won't go back up. 598 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,160 I don't know how to do it. 599 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,960 Thanks for coming. I know it was rough drive. 600 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960 I think we've got about 55 faucets that we want to get done today. 601 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,880 Members of Harold Harrington's Plumbers' Union 602 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,840 volunteer to do something about it. 603 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,680 The Red Cross called me because they'd got these filters 604 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,200 being delivered from the state and a lot of residents 605 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160 could not install these filters. 606 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440 So we started doing that. 607 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,720 He needs two filters installed. He had a stroke. 608 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,280 He's unable to... His hands are a little wiggly, or whatever. 609 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600 I'm going to go make sure they take the test kits with them 610 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440 and everything else, OK? OK. OK. 611 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,680 However, the lead levels in many homes are so high, 612 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,320 the filters being handed out by the state 613 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480 aren't guaranteed to work. 614 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,880 The Environmental Protection Agency issues a public health warning. 615 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,960 The EPA has issued an opinion 616 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120 that says that the toxins 617 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,800 are too high for the filters to be effective. 618 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680 They should have known, all these scientists. 619 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,760 They should have known that 620 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,960 these filters would not... They should have tested it. 621 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,560 All of my girls, all girls, 622 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,640 are born with all the eggs they're ever going to have, 623 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,400 reproductive-wise. 624 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,520 Yes? 625 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,080 Yeah? 626 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,640 Yeah. 627 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,360 Lead becomes a part of your bones, 628 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,000 it becomes a part of your tissues, 629 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200 it becomes a part of your reproductive system. 630 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,200 I have no idea if this is going to cause them to have problems 631 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,520 when they're older. 632 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,600 When did you first realise there was a problem with the water? 633 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,760 My daughter ended up getting sick. 634 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,360 It was just like, bam, out of control, like from day to night. 635 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120 She came downstairs, she looked like a different child. 636 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,040 OK! 637 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,040 Right then, now your little leggies! 638 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,840 The other horrible end of it, 639 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,040 also, medical communities are going to be 640 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,360 studying our children, 641 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,440 seeing the effects of these chemicals 642 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160 and these heavy metals have on their bodies, 643 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,760 which makes me absolutely nauseous 644 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,960 because I did not volunteer my children 645 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320 to be a part of a medical study. 646 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,280 I did not. 647 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800 If you take your child to a paediatrician 648 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,480 and you tell them about this, 649 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,320 all they can do is shake their head and just say, 650 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,040 "You just have to wait and see if they have any reactions." 651 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,280 So, I figured macaroni and cheese. 652 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,480 Actually... Dogs. 653 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,440 Bye, honey. 654 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,960 Thank you for somebody answering me. 655 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880 Come on, person. 656 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,400 We are holding an informational meeting 657 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120 for the class action lawsuits. 658 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,800 The state who did this to us 659 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,040 needs to pay for people's medical expenses. 660 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,160 Not everybody has medical access, medical insurance, 661 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120 or the money to pay for these expenses. 662 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,240 Plus, these kids and these adults 663 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,760 are going to need medical care for the rest of their lives. 664 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,480 So somebody needs to pay for that bill. 665 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,280 Oh, my. That's a lot of traffic. Wonder if it's for us. 666 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,720 It's broken into three lawsuits now, 667 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,960 so there's going to be three different judges. 668 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200 So it's in the County Court of Claims, 669 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,360 as well as the State and Federal. 670 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,800 Unfortunately, we are at capacity in this particular room, 671 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080 and we cannot have more people come in. 672 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,840 Take a notebook and start writing down everything you can think of 673 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,600 that's changed or different since April 25th, 2014. 674 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440 Every doctor's appointment, every rash, because it'll make it 675 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,840 a lot easier and faster to get your information together. 676 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,560 Good evening, everyone. ALL: Good evening! 677 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,400 All right! I want the sound to reflect the volume of people 678 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,560 that are in this room, because it is absolutely amazing to us 679 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880 to have this type of turnout... 680 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600 APPLAUSE 681 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600 ..for this event. 682 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160 This is good - it means more people not drinking the water, 683 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,800 and more people finding out about their health, and finding out what their rights are. 684 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,760 Most of you know me. My name is Attorney Trisha Young. 685 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120 I was born and raised right here in Flint. 686 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,520 I live in Flint. 687 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,120 My office is about two miles up the road, 688 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,000 on the corner of Saginaw and Baker. 689 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,640 The state is providing filters and the replacement cartridges. 690 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,360 As far as we're concerned, that's the least the state can do! 691 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,680 It's not about just getting money. 692 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,920 We do want to get some compensation for our clients 693 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,320 that have been injured. 694 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,880 We believe they deserve to be compensated, not just 695 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,960 for their personal injury, but for their property loss, 696 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,240 for the emotional and mental stress that they've have to deal with, 697 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,720 you know, for providing and wondering about 698 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,440 the welfare of their children. 699 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,480 So we have formed a dynamic team. 700 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,480 We have been very active and on the move. 701 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,320 We have already filed multiple pieces of litigation. 702 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,800 So I'm going to go to the back of the room. 703 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,080 Do you yourself feel that we should have 704 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,800 all of the city of Flint's pipes replaced? 705 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,640 We don't trust what they're saying, and we want the pipes replaced. 706 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,680 Period. 707 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,520 In response, Flint's new mayor pledges to replace every lead pipe 708 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,240 in the city, though she has only a fraction of the money needed. 709 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:16,560 Mayor, how do you feel, seeing the first lead line coming out today? 710 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080 This is the day that we've been waiting for for a very long time. 711 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,640 So, you know, the sun is shining on us, 712 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,760 and we couldn't ask for a better day for, 713 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,400 you know, a wonderful event like this. 714 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,840 Please move this way. 715 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,000 Well, good afternoon, everybody, and thank you for coming out today. 716 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,720 This is a great day for the city of Flint, 717 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,960 and it's a day that we have been waiting for. 718 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,280 My mission is to totally get the lead out of Flint. 719 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,600 We need to be focused on a complete renewal of Flint's water system, 720 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,360 because we owe our residents something. This is our start. 721 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,880 Done! 722 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,920 APPLAUSE 723 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,760 Into the future we go! 724 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,840 Good job! 725 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,280 Mayor Weaver, extremely happy to oversee this first job, 726 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,320 acknowledged from the podium that there's only money at the moment 727 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,280 to do about another 230 of these. 728 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,720 She would like to do about 15,000. 729 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,320 And the money won't be available to even start really doing 730 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,960 that until October 2016, 731 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,680 so we're looking at October of 2017 732 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,480 before the city of Flint is really beyond this crisis - 733 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680 it's been almost two years now. 734 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,440 You have to walk? Yes, walk or catch the bus. 735 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,720 I prefer that they would deliver it to everybody's house, 736 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,440 instead of people having to go pick it up themselves. 737 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,720 That's my grandson. 738 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:51,000 He's the youngest. 739 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,080 This is what I got him playing in. 740 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,520 Right here - this is what he's playing in and don't know it. 741 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480 Sliding on lead. 742 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,920 I mean, giving him a mental disability right there. 743 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480 That's what we have to go through every day, 744 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,920 just for one person to shower. 745 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560 Ain't no way in the world one case of water would do. 746 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,480 One week. It's been going on for over a year, 747 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880 and this is just one week! 748 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,840 How long is this going to be in our body before... 749 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,880 ..we might die? You know, if it's irreversible, 750 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,080 how long do we have? 751 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,480 Be honest, we just started not bathing in it... 752 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,800 After we heard about the Legionnaires. 753 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,360 That scam. Oh, no, I do not trust any of them. 754 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,160 I really don't. 755 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,760 Governor Snyder now reveals a devastating new health crisis 756 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,720 that has been kept secret for more than a year. 757 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,400 Well, thank you for coming today. 758 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,880 I'm going to share information 759 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,120 that hasn't really been put out to the public. 760 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,600 Over the course of 2014 and 2015, 761 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,720 we saw a spike in Legionnaires' disease. 762 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:10,960 I believe the numbers for the preceding years before 2014, 763 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,640 we had six cases, 11 cases, 764 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,040 13 cases, and eight cases. 765 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,400 Um, in 2014, we had 45 cases. 766 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,920 It was just the muscle soreness, respiratory. 767 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,520 I've had pneumonia before. 768 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,360 It didn't feel like the pneumonia I had before, 769 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,280 but I could tell my respiratory system 770 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,240 was just seriously compromised. 771 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:43,720 She was real weak. Very weak. 772 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,480 She couldn't really get off the couch, much less go to work. 773 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,160 I need an axe to cut through the ice. 774 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,320 That's the Flint treatment plant, 775 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480 and the intake's right there. 776 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,600 It's like Chernobyl, or something. 777 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,720 This is like the next best thing to a time machine, 778 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,720 is recreate the outbreak in the laboratory 779 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,400 under very well controlled conditions. 780 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,880 We simulate the distribution, we simulate the houses, 781 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,320 and we see how the Legionella grows. 782 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,240 What triggered that outbreak that caused the deaths? 783 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,120 And we're really close. 784 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080 Marc Edwards and his team at Virginia Tech conclude 785 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,880 that the outbreak of Legionnaires' disease was caused 786 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,240 by the switch to the Flint River. 787 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,720 So I get Flint River water shipped to me, and then I treat it the same 788 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,120 way that you would in the water treatment process, 789 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,800 and you can see there's a colour difference, even after treatment. 790 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,960 The trigger was Flint River water with no corrosion inhibitor, 791 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,080 plus iron, which is a nutrient that Legionella needs to grow. 792 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680 Those little, tiny, microscopic drops of water 793 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,560 can contain Legionella in it. 794 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,960 From Flint, you can see a substantial amount more colonies. 795 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,120 Most of the time, what it's going to manifest as is a pneumonia. 796 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,760 This pneumonia would not... You would not be able to tell 797 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600 what the bacteria was - it could look like any other pneumonia - 798 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,440 cough, shortness of breath, headache. 799 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,240 That's all I have, unless there's any questions. Thank you. 800 00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,480 Because the outbreak was kept secret, 801 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,960 doctors misdiagnosed dozens of cases as simple pneumonia. 802 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,680 They knew in March of 2015 803 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,920 that there were spikes of Legionnaires' cases in Flint, 804 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,400 but they had never told anybody. 805 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680 If they'd told us, you know, we would have... 806 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,720 The doctors would have known to check for that. But they didn't. 807 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,240 They just said they were going to attribute it to a form 808 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,800 of pneumonia, and that, you know, they were going to give me 809 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,400 some medication and, you know, to go back in two weeks. 810 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000 Nobody told the Flint residents. It's just like the lead. 811 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,760 They didn't tell us about that either, and other people knew about that. 812 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,880 We're in a post-truth world, and that's what this whole story 813 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,960 is about - is who betrayed whom. 814 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,120 Everyone's betraying everyone - who can you trust? 815 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,120 There's some folks telling the truth, there's some folks lying, 816 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,160 and to me, this defines a dark age. 817 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,560 We live in a dark age. 818 00:49:55,720 --> 00:50:00,000 It's defined by not knowing who you can trust in a society 819 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,840 that runs on trust. 820 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,800 No peace! No justice, no peace! 821 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,000 No justice, no peace! 822 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,920 No justice, no peace! No peace! 823 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,240 No peace! 824 00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,640 With fear of the water mounting, 825 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,720 community leaders demand all of Flint's pipes be replaced 826 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,000 and the governor be held to account. 827 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,760 We're sick, we're tired, we're broke, we're fed up, 828 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,800 but at the end of this march, we will all know, 829 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,000 we are not victims, we are fighters! 830 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,440 CHEERING 831 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,920 Never neglect me. Never neglect me! 832 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,840 This is a crime scene. 833 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,560 Somebody lied. 834 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,320 Somebody covered it up. 835 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,640 CHANTING 836 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,600 Flint lives matter! 837 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,480 What do we want? Fresh water! When do we want it? Now! 838 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,880 What do we want? Fresh water! When do we want it? Now! 839 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,840 Save our water! Arrest Governor Snyder! 840 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,680 Clean water for me! Poison for you! 841 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,400 Snyder's got to go! 842 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,280 Save our water! Arrest Governor Snyder! 843 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,680 CHEERING AND SHOUTING 844 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,920 Here we are in Flint, Michigan. 845 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,880 Sunrise, 2016, 846 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,720 and our Water Defense mission today is to get 847 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:45,840 baseline Flint River readings 848 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,920 for the full gamut of potential chemicals of concern 849 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,600 from not just lead, but all dangerous heavy metals. 850 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,280 So, here we go. 851 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,920 Scott Smith from the activist group Water Defense 852 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,520 arrives in town to do additional testing. 853 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,960 We're going to let this sit in the water for 30 minutes. 854 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,560 He raises the possibility of new dangers from the water. 855 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,880 It looks like it's shallow here, maybe four feet from that, so... 856 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,240 ..hopefully the anchor's catching some sediment on the bottom. 857 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,640 Got the hiccups? 858 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,040 There's the agenda for today. 859 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,440 We have refreshments, coffee and bagels over there. 860 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,840 Yes. 861 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,200 NBC wants to do a quick interview with me before we get going, 862 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,880 so we'll say no more than ten minutes. 863 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,320 When do you guys have to leave? 864 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200 I think you should capture the community, 865 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,560 and there's going to be a lot of intense discussion here. 866 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,000 All right. If you just say your name for me, please. 867 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,640 Scott Smith, chief technology officer and investigator 868 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,320 for Water Defense. 869 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,760 And the particulate lead that the agency has admitted 870 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,960 is a problem, when that comes in a shower, that can aerosolize 871 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,760 and go into the air. 872 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,280 And some of these symptoms, the rashes, 873 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,080 and what people are describing, 874 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,840 can come from inhaling particulate lead. 875 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,960 We need to really focus on the showers 876 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,440 and what people are inhaling. 877 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,880 And we plan to launch air testing in bathrooms tomorrow, 878 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,520 which has not been done. 879 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000 So, Scott is with Water Defense. 880 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,600 Scott comes at this not as a novice - 881 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,600 he's done this kind of work 882 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,600 all over the country... Good! 883 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,320 ..and has done some international work. 884 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,240 He has a Master's degree from Harvard. 885 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,040 So, Scott, you got the floor. 886 00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,000 APPLAUSE 887 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,360 I decided not to do a PowerPoint, because I want 888 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,960 this to be a dialogue with questions. 889 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,040 Our goal is to arm this community 890 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,840 with your ability to do your own testing, and you can be the judge. 891 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,280 Thank you. 892 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,680 Before we open up - Albert Einstein, I keep saying this 893 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,040 over and over again. 894 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,560 He said, 90% of solving a problem is diagnosing it. 895 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,760 Well, I think we know there's a preponderance of people 896 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,920 getting sick in bathtubs and showers. 897 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,720 I'll always tell you what I don't know, 898 00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,120 and I'll do everything in my power 899 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,400 to get the scientific data to let you know. 900 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,480 Yes? I was wondering - lately, my levels of lead have went up. 901 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,360 Most likely that's particulate lead and I would like to meet with you, 902 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,880 and come test your house tomorrow. 903 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,600 I won't take showers now because I'm horrified. 904 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,320 Was your lead tested in your home? 905 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,640 It was, and they've got me on an anxiety pill now 906 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,880 because I'm on high blood pressure, 907 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,920 it's just enough to make you just fall over. 908 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,680 I came out of the General Motors, so I don't qualify for nothing. 909 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,960 But if I had money, I would leave Flint! 910 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120 You know? So where does that leave me? 911 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,320 You deserve the truth, 912 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,760 and you deserve immediate remedies to help your health. Thank you. 913 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,040 What you don't deserve is being told this is not coming from bathwater, 914 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,880 shower, water and... Right. 915 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,240 Thank you. 916 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,920 So this... This is what ran today. 917 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,400 "Group fears bathing risks in Flint water." 918 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,480 And that is from Water Defense. 919 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,840 This is my 62nd disaster since BP. 920 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,040 There is no other disaster that even remotely compares to this, 921 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,240 due to the complexity and all the variables. 922 00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:30,600 The real crisis is just beginning, 923 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,480 especially if you're a Flint resident that has lung cancer, 924 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,640 Legionnaires' disease, a child, 925 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,000 an elderly person that now has serious, serious issues with lead. 926 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,360 What's your name? Jaylin. 927 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,640 My son takes a bath. No problem with him, 928 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,840 so, I don't know if it's different strokes for different folks, but... 929 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,480 Have you ever had rashes from showers before in your life? 930 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,720 No. 931 00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,960 When they tested the tub, was it cold water, warm water, a mix? Cold. 932 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,880 You don't take a shower in cold water. Right. 933 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,880 The state has taken a sample of cold water... Cold water. 934 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,840 But I just have to look at the camera 935 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,360 because it's hard to believe what I'm hearing here. 936 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,480 Excuse my mess. It's OK. 937 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,600 You went fishing? 938 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,320 Well, I'm actually fishing for contamination, 939 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,040 to see what's making your mother's rashes, 940 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,440 and sister's hair fall out, all that fun stuff. 941 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,960 This is the first air test we have done in Flint. 942 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,120 Wow. 943 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600 I'm going to do actual air testing, and that air test will mimic 944 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,960 what you're breathing into your lungs and inhaling. 945 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,480 I have never tested anything in Flint. 946 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,720 No water. 947 00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:48,680 I've done lead paint in houses, but not this. 948 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,560 Here, we're looking for lead, possibly, and organics in the air. 949 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,920 Every time I get in the water, I break out. 950 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,920 I keep telling my doctor, they keep saying it's an allergic reaction or something. 951 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,120 And I'm like, yes, the water. This is the Water Defense water bug. 952 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,320 We're going to put this so it's exposed to the water for 30 minutes. 953 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120 OK. Instead of putting my skin there for 30 minutes, 954 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,120 and then just slicing off my skin and sending it to the lab... Right. 955 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,520 ..I'm going to use this, 956 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,680 and then we're going to measure the actual air. 957 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,480 Water Defense bathroom shower air testing under way. 958 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,040 Flint water crisis. 959 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,320 I just appreciate it, because I really don't trust the EPA, 960 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,520 DEQ, I don't trust none of them. 961 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,720 They just made it hard to trust anyone in Flint, for me. 962 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,920 We're good. 963 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,960 What happens next is we write up the chain of custody, 964 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,840 I send the cooler off, 965 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,160 and I'll have those results in three to five days. 966 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,880 Do you want to hold... 967 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,160 OK, you have to talk through the little... Oh. 968 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,120 I got a good one. 969 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,840 "As for owing me, I will take what I need from the state 970 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,040 "and give you nothing but piss and vinegar for taxes." 971 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,720 Piss and vinegar! 972 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640 When I sat down with Marc Edwards, 973 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,160 he kept saying that filtered tap water was as good, if not better 974 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,840 than bottled water. Oh, my God! 975 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,520 So we sat down and had dinner and we got into a huge screaming match, 976 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,360 because I said, "Please don't do this. 977 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,440 "Why don't you come out door to door and talk to the people 978 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,760 "who are sick and dying, and it ain't from lead?" 979 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,960 He told me, "Stop mooching off the government. 980 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,760 "You guys need to learn to get used to what you've got." 981 00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,160 And... Who? Edwards! He's a libertarian, honey. 982 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,000 So that's. I mean, he's not... Really?! Yes. Marc Edwards? Yes. 983 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,280 So they all seem like there's not any... 984 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,480 To the dismay of many in Flint, Professor Marc Edwards 985 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360 has become a close adviser to Governor Snyder. 986 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,000 So it might be it's a little bit better, or it might be not. 987 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,920 You know, we'll have to see, right? 988 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,280 And if the second draw is better, 989 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,360 you know, that's still very good news. 990 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,760 Edwards is advising the governor there is a cheaper alternative 991 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,880 to replacing all of Flint's pipes. 992 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,480 By adding phosphate to the water, 993 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,600 a protective layer will form on damaged pipes, 994 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,040 reducing the chance lead particles will dislodge. 995 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680 What I'm doing is following the protocol 996 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,360 we're getting from the experts, including Professor Edwards. 997 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,920 There's no specific date that we'll say the water is safe 998 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,520 to turn back on - that will only be based on scientific evidence 999 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,400 validated by third parties. 1000 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,360 So, Governor Snyder, a lot of people in Flint, as you know, 1001 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,880 say he should be in jail. 1002 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,880 So if anyone in Flint, frankly, feels like 1003 00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,640 this was done to them because 1004 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,640 Governor Snyder wanted to save a few dollars, 1005 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,200 I can't fault that. 1006 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,080 I mean, if I had been in their shoes, I would probably 1007 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,640 believe the same thing. 1008 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800 But the victims of Flint will say all they've received 1009 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,200 is a few bottles of water. 1010 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,920 Well, a few million bottles of water. 1011 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,440 But again, let's put this in perspective. 1012 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,760 You know, there's no magic pot of money that is going to appear. 1013 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,000 That is why I've defended the hard decisions 1014 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,280 that the governor's had to make. 1015 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,440 We want to represent your concerns, your care, your injuries... 1016 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,760 'If there is to be a cheque given out, 1017 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,400 'it will come through the lawsuit, 1018 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,920 'because in this country, as you know, the way many people' 1019 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,360 say sorry is through the legal system, for right or wrong. 1020 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,600 I can imagine Melissa, listening to what you've just said 1021 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,280 and commenting that you've turned against the residents, 1022 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,240 that you're now own Governor Snyder's side. 1023 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,600 I would tell her you've got to take the good with the bad. 1024 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,080 This is who I am. 1025 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,600 And I'm sorry you don't like what I'm saying, 1026 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,400 but it's the truth as I see it. 1027 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,000 This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. 1028 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,600 We welcome Marc Edwards. 1029 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,160 Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. 1030 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,240 You were one of the people who helped uncover the problems 1031 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,200 in Flint, and then you were asked to help with the problem afterwards, 1032 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,800 which is a strange thing. 1033 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,840 But what can be done to help at this stage? 1034 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,320 In Flint, Michigan, it's now become the best monitored 1035 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,800 and one of the best run systems in the country. 1036 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,920 And so, as a result, the water is comparable now to other cities 1037 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,440 in the United States. 1038 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,560 Well, this is from the EPA. 1039 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,240 Everyone can wash your hands, bathe and shower with unfiltered water. 1040 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,360 They're saying lead and copper won't affect you in the bath, 1041 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,920 but I'm hearing otherwise now. 1042 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,600 Plus the other chemicals that are in the water. 1043 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,560 Direct contradiction. 1044 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,760 Let's go. 1045 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,680 I'm after particulate lead going into the air. 1046 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,520 Will you get that from cold water? 1047 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,080 We don't know. We might. 1048 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,520 Flint water crisis 2016. 1049 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,680 Water Defense, air testing Harold Harrington home 1050 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,280 to see what chemicals are being inhaled directly into the lungs. 1051 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,760 It's scary. I mean, when they make it impossible for you to understand 1052 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,400 what's happened to you, they also make it impossible for you 1053 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,400 to do anything to help yourself. 1054 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,360 Thanks. Thank you. 1055 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,440 Good morning, everybody. 1056 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,840 Morning. 1057 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,600 I'm Harold Harrington. 1058 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,880 I'm not going to rest until there's safe drinking water 1059 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,360 for everybody in Flint, 1060 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,000 but I think we need the testing from Water Defense 1061 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,480 and Mark Ruffalo, Scott Smith to verify that, 1062 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,320 because I'm not sure now, with what I know is in my water, 1063 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,320 that the only thing wrong with this water is lead and copper. 1064 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,160 I'm not going to get fooled again. Thank you. 1065 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,400 APPLAUSE 1066 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,880 Harold Harrington and his wife 1067 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,960 are bathing in 900 parts per billion 1068 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,160 1,4-Dichlorobenzene. 1069 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,520 These levels are unacceptable. 1070 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,760 These chemicals, believe it or not, 1071 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,960 chloroform goes through your skin, 1072 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,640 they're more dangerous than bathing in lead. Yes? 1073 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,640 So, just to be clear, people in Flint have been told don't drink it, 1074 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,520 don't forget it's not filtered, etc, but it's OK to bathe in it. 1075 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,640 You again are saying that is not OK. 1076 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,920 It's absolutely incomprehensible to me 1077 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,400 how anybody with any responsibility could make any kind of statement 1078 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,920 that this water is safe to bathe and shower in. 1079 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,840 Hi, I'm Mark Ruffalo. 1080 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,240 HE SIGHS 1081 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,160 Now, what's happened here is a crisis of credibility 1082 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040 from the government. 1083 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,960 It's no different than the negligence that happened 1084 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,080 in Louisiana, Katrina, when certain government officials 1085 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,040 decided that it was better not to fix the dykes, 1086 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,320 and those dykes failed, 1087 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,360 and those people's lives were impacted negatively. 1088 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:57,520 The fact that we have to go back to a Congress that everyone knows 1089 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,080 won't do a damn thing, and beg them for money 1090 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,400 so our mothers can take care of their children, is an outrage. 1091 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,640 Water Defense is here. We're doing testing. 1092 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,320 You only find in water what you look for. 1093 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,440 You've got a lot more contaminants in this water 1094 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,960 than what you're being told about. 1095 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,640 You've got to keep fighting, I'm telling you. You've got to fight. 1096 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,320 That's the only way to make change. Thank you. 1097 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,680 I'm part of a long legacy of actors and artists 1098 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,040 who become socially aware, socially conscious, 1099 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,800 and push for social justice, 1100 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,080 going all the way back to Jesus. 1101 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,680 I'm feeling good after that press conference. 1102 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,440 We're now looking at around a 1:10pm arrival. 1103 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,920 So, Mark, how did you become interested in this situation 1104 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,560 in Flint in the first place? 1105 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,040 Well, I've been doing a lot of work in the water space 1106 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,720 for the past five years. 1107 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,160 I started a group called waterdefense.org - 1108 01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,920 we weren't getting a clear picture 1109 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,840 of what was happening with our water. 1110 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,400 And what we came across is really elevated levels of chloroform. 1111 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,240 If people are bathing in this, it seeps into the skin very easily. 1112 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,200 It's been known to be cancerous. 1113 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,160 Bathing in the water should not be done. 1114 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,080 All right, everyone. We're here at UA Local 370, 1115 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,400 the Plumbers and Pipefitters Union, 1116 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,400 and we are ready to deboard the bus. Come on down. 1117 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,880 State health experts and the EPA 1118 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,440 say current scientific evidence shows it's safe 1119 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,880 for adults and children to shower or bathe in the water in Flint, 1120 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600 but an outside group conducting its own testing 1121 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,520 says their results show otherwise. 1122 01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,560 Bathing in chloroform is much more dangerous than lead 1123 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,560 because it goes through your skin, it goes in the air, 1124 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,880 you breathe them into your lungs. 1125 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,040 Yes! 1126 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,200 I going to see the President today. 1127 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,480 You got to get dressed. You can't wear what you got on, buddy! 1128 01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,880 I know! 1129 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,880 Oh, a rabbit! A rabbit! 1130 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,200 I'll just take it off. 1131 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,200 Hopefully, I get to speak with him so I can let him know 1132 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,080 how I feel about Governor Snyder. 1133 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,360 Flint lives matter! Flint lives matter! Flint lives matter! 1134 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,240 SHOUTING AND CHEERING 1135 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,600 Hello, Flint! 1136 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,280 I will not rest, and I'm going to make sure that the leaders 1137 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,600 at every level of government don't rest, until every drop of water 1138 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,280 that flows to your homes is safe to drink and safe to cook with, 1139 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,440 and safe to bathe in, 1140 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,360 because that's part of the basic responsibilities of a government 1141 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,080 in the United States of America. 1142 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,200 This myth that government is always the enemy, 1143 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,920 you know, that attitude is as corrosive to our democracy 1144 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,960 as the stuff that resulted in lead in your water. 1145 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,240 We especially under-invest when the communities that are put at risk 1146 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,160 are poor, or don't have a lot of political clout... 1147 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,640 ..and so are not as often heard in the corridors of power. 1148 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,200 Despite President Obama's visit, 1149 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,200 it will be almost a year before the White House and Congress agree 1150 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,480 on a relief package for Flint. 1151 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,200 It is insufficient to replace all the lead pipes in Flint, 1152 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,680 and does little to address the future problems 1153 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,120 of a generation of children with lead poisoning. 1154 01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,720 Remember last week? 1155 01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:02,880 Remember? 1156 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,480 'Say hi! We're going to go see the President! 1157 01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:08,680 'Yay!' 1158 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,080 That was during the round table before it started. 1159 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,160 I told him I was three months older than him 1160 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,040 and that's where he started laughing. 1161 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,160 He told me I look pretty good for my age. 1162 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,840 That was one of the lighter moments. 1163 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:27,120 I was actually fortunate enough, I got to sit right beside him. 1164 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,200 He had a toast with the residents with Flint water, 1165 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,080 but I declined to drink the toast with the filtered water. 1166 01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,000 I was pushing to get federal money in here to fix the problem, 1167 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,120 not drink filtered water 1168 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,360 and make it seem like everything's OK. 1169 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,400 I'm all right. I'm going to get a glass of water right in. 1170 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,760 CROWD CLAMOUR 1171 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,760 It'll be filtered. Hold on. 1172 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,800 I'm going to talk about that in a second. Settle down, everybody. 1173 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,840 President Obama visited, and then after that, 1174 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,360 I kind of pulled myself back away from politics 1175 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,160 because I was just disgusted by everything. 1176 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,160 And I just felt that we're on the ground, we're by ourselves. 1177 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,680 There we go. 1178 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,800 One of the things that made me feel like a rock dropped in my stomach 1179 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,840 was when I seen him take a sip of water. 1180 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,400 I really did need a glass of water. This is not a stunt. 1181 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,960 Now, I'm going to talk about this, everybody settle down. 1182 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,240 This is a feisty crowd! 1183 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,080 What the fuck? 1184 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,000 Yeah, I was there. He took a sip. 1185 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,560 Go bathe. 1186 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,880 I bet Obama didn't stay here 1187 01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,840 for two weeks and take a shower every day. 1188 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,160 Man, you too? I saw that on TV, and I just like, man, 1189 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,600 it just kind of messed up my whole perspective of the world, 1190 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,800 because I'm thinking, we there, you know, we got one in the White House. 1191 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,040 People are dying. You know what I'm saying? 1192 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,880 End of the day, people are dying. 1193 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,640 I've had some health scares myself, stem back to the water. 1194 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320 I normally come back a lot during Black History Month 1195 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,480 to go to schools and stuff, 1196 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:04,920 because I didn't make an announcement that I was moving. 1197 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,760 Mama Sol has moved away from Flint because of health concerns 1198 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,600 for herself and her son. 1199 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,960 I miss Flint a lot. 1200 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,480 I don't miss the weather. 1201 01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:15,240 But I miss Flint. 1202 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:20,160 I enjoy working and bringing hope to my people here at home. 1203 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,880 Everything hip-hop should be is in your music, 1204 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,080 and now you've come up with some new stuff! 1205 01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,520 A new single that I released today. 1206 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,960 I'm really excited about this single. 1207 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,800 It's just an inspiring song. 1208 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,120 You know, reminding the kids of Flint, 1209 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,240 don't give up your crown, don't give up your throne. 1210 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,160 You know, it might get rough, it might seem dark, but don't quit. 1211 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,240 # I'm from where there's lead in the water... # 1212 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,920 SHE SINGS ALONG TO HER SONG 1213 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,640 # Oh, you suppose we should sell our souls...# 1214 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,000 INDISTINCT LYRICS 1215 01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,960 # You don't see what's happening here, bro? 1216 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,120 # Don't give up your crown 1217 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,600 # Don't give up your throne, king 1218 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,520 # Cos our time is now 1219 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,160 # Let it be known, queen... # 1220 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,880 THEY GREET EACH OTHER 1221 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,280 So good to see you all, man! 1222 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,440 Whoa! Look at Willow! 1223 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,480 It's still emotional for me, coming back home. 1224 01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,760 I got to do a quick sound check so y'all can sit down. 1225 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,280 Another strong woman from Flint! 1226 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,040 CHEERING 1227 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,800 What's up, Flint? 1228 01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,400 Huh? 1229 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,600 # The darker the night, the brighter the star 1230 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,360 # The heart of the fight, the stronger we are... # 1231 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:55,160 # Why do people keep on dying...? # 1232 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,520 Look, Flint. 1233 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,120 I love you all so much, man. 1234 01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,840 I really worry about people here. 1235 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,360 Because it's not on the news any more. 1236 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,400 That's the thing that scares me the most. 1237 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,680 You know? 1238 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,000 People kind of act like it's OK now 1239 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,160 because they saw a few pipes be replaced 1240 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,200 between the sidewalk and the street. 1241 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,760 Scary. 1242 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,080 So right now, we're writing up the chain of custody 1243 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,120 for these samples, all the different samples I've taken for the day, 1244 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,680 and the official chain of custody, 1245 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,400 and then I'm going to show you how we seal this up with ice, 1246 01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,880 package it properly. 1247 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,000 This is what I do meticulously, 1248 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,840 to build this, and the chain of custody and this documentation 1249 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,800 is key to supporting the community in any court actions. 1250 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,560 This certified lab I use is really where the science is. 1251 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,040 What about people who say, "You don't have a scientific qualification"? 1252 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,160 That's my favourite question. 1253 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,720 I... I work with a lot of scientists, 1254 01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,320 and a scientist is one who accumulates knowledge 1255 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,840 in a systematic way. 1256 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,360 I would argue that the false narratives from the state, 1257 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,280 who are paying the other "PhD scientists" 1258 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,160 are being told their narratives, 1259 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,640 so they're not really accumulating knowledge in a systematic way - 1260 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,160 that questions whether or not they're scientists. 1261 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,560 And, second of all, I have six... 1262 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,800 I'm a named inventor on six patents and 14 patents pending. 1263 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,280 Now, a lot of the PhDs I work with, they will say, 1264 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,240 "Well, wow, that really makes you a scientist, Scott. 1265 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,720 "We don't have patents to our name." 1266 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,400 If you just press the space bar there. 1267 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,320 'This is the Water Defense water bug 1268 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,480 'and it mimics the way... You see? Those were instant. 1269 01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:19,840 'This is going to be the first air sample we've ever taken 1270 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,360 'during the Flint water crisis. 1271 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,200 'I just appreciate it, 1272 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,120 'cos I really don't trust the EPA, the DEQ, I don't trust none of them. 1273 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,320 'This was exposed to the water for 30 minutes. OK. 1274 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,680 'It's like my skin there for 30 minutes, 1275 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,320 'and instead of sending my skin to the lab...' 1276 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,360 To me, the clip you just played really shows 1277 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,240 what a new dark age looks like, when science becomes untrustworthy 1278 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,440 and we lose the support of the public, 1279 01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:51,200 and we're back to an air of pseudoscience and mythology and... 1280 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,920 ..untruth. 1281 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,240 I haven't seen a water heater with a screwdriver thing, so... 1282 01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,000 ..this could get real interesting. 1283 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,840 OK. 1284 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,800 That's hot! 1285 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,000 Yeah, it's really hot. 1286 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,480 Oh, shit. 1287 01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,600 Watch you don't get your pants wet. 1288 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,120 Would you hold this for me, if you don't mind? Yeah. 1289 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,520 If you could slow down that video I just saw, 1290 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,840 the sample from the bottom of the water heater. 1291 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,640 What you will see is a metallic hose bit there, 1292 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,920 which is the point of sample collection, 1293 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,920 and these are notorious for having very high lead in them, 1294 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,760 because they are not designed to dispense water 1295 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,800 fit for human consumption. 1296 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,480 The other incredible mistake he's made 1297 01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,800 is you might have seen the water shoot out of the bottle, 1298 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,160 go up and hit the hose bib, 1299 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,680 allowing the water to collect dust from outside the hose bib, 1300 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,760 which then falls back into the bottle again. 1301 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,280 Take no showers and no baths. 1302 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,400 It's got to be coming from the hot water. OK. 1303 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,720 These people in Flint have been exploited on so many levels. 1304 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,240 And who's paying the price for this? 1305 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,000 It's these kids. 1306 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,280 We've had so many different diagnoses, 1307 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,440 but those spots turned into white spots. 1308 01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:34,600 Wow. What did the doctor say? 1309 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,440 The first diagnosis, a fungus infection. 1310 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,600 Then it was athlete's foot. 1311 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,320 Then it was a bacterial infection. 1312 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,000 Don't disturb him. The pictures say it all. 1313 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,840 My brother, Demetrius, he can't think that good. 1314 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,680 Now he has to go through life... 1315 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,040 You have to keep moving on. 1316 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,840 Mike, that's a little bit different than what you had in the first shower, right? Yeah. 1317 01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,320 Well, I got that blue pump on - the other one went down, 1318 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,560 I think I got too much moisture. 1319 01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,360 As soon as I get the results, you'll get an email. Thank you. 1320 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,240 You'll get them within minutes of me having them, no matter what. 1321 01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,320 Appreciate it. OK, good luck with everything. All right. Thank you. 1322 01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,880 You have the EPA and you have Mr Smith. 1323 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,240 The EPA has let us down so many times, 1324 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,960 and they keep coming up with different figures, 1325 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,440 different numbers. 1326 01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:33,800 So, you know, we're not... We don't trust it. 1327 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,200 I'll take the numbers that Mr Smith has and I'll run with it. 1328 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,920 And so, this is the pump - the hose that the pump goes on. 1329 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,560 I'll just hang the shower hose up here. 1330 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,040 Once you get in there, you want to make sure that you're doing it 1331 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,800 with your best foot... 1332 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,480 ..and the water comes right out. 1333 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:03,880 And the more you pump it, the more pressure builds in it. 1334 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,960 I tell my boys I'm going to extend a longer hose, 1335 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,080 so someone can be out here pumping. 1336 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,160 That's too much to go through. 1337 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,680 I'd rather take a chance on this 1338 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,120 than take the tap water. 1339 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,240 I say two to three hours, everybody is done showering. 1340 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,160 You know, considering we have to put water on the stove 1341 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,440 to heat them up, so... 1342 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,520 About three hours max. 1343 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,760 Three to four. Three to four. 1344 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,440 Yes, may I have a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit sandwich, 1345 01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,400 substitute egg white and white cheddar? Sure. 1346 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,640 And may I have a large Diet Coke, please? 1347 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,360 OK, did you want the meal or just the biscuit? Just the biscuit. 1348 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:49,800 Thank you. 1349 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,640 They're just digging in like a tick on a dog. 1350 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,200 I've never seen anything like it. 1351 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,520 I'm more used to battling government agencies. 1352 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,440 I get angry when people are being victimised, 1353 01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:07,680 and I feel part of my job is to defend the public welfare. 1354 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,240 There's a conflict of interest here that isn't being discussed. 1355 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,160 'At Opflex Environmental Technologies, we are excited about our future.' 1356 01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,480 This is an Opflex environmental indicator, where we can 1357 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,000 fingerprint exactly what the oil is, 1358 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,640 and we are going to take this to a lab and have it fingerprinted 1359 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,360 to find out what the contamination is, specifically. 1360 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,640 We had tried to push this product for oil spill clean-ups, 1361 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,560 and frankly, it didn't work very well. 1362 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,320 A cruise ship has olive oil, has lubricant oil, 1363 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,200 even if the bunker oil doesn't leak. 1364 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,480 And this is what we did in the Gulf of Mexico. 1365 01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:50,880 Clear water is being repelled, dripping out, 1366 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,200 and there you have your olive oil. 1367 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,600 So, you know, when his sponge business didn't work out, 1368 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,960 the logical extension was to take that product and start 1369 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,120 throwing it in the bathtubs and showers. 1370 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,640 So, here we go. 1371 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,320 He's using Flint as his test field, 1372 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:12,280 and came into Flint after the water disaster was declared... 1373 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,760 ..and circumvent normal product development and safety testing 1374 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,600 and proving that the product works 1375 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,800 and just trying to sell it to people. 1376 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,120 We're going to take four tentacles from the top. 1377 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,280 So we've started monitoring, documenting 1378 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,280 all these false health claims, 1379 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,800 and all the inept and illegal sampling that they're doing, 1380 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,640 and trying to get the message out that these folks are dangerous. 1381 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,720 You're going to tell us, no matter what they say. 1382 01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,200 The fact they're exploiting residents in Flint, their fears... 1383 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,200 We will. Good luck with everything. 1384 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,840 ..just sickening. 1385 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,480 We'll be downstairs, and then we'll just catch you when you come in. 1386 01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,520 Yep, I'm going to bring some stuff in and then, of course, 1387 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,480 we can get the water unloaded and take it downstairs to you. 1388 01:21:57,480 --> 01:21:58,920 Perfect. I'll see you in a minute. 1389 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,640 Of course, those water tests are thousands of dollars, 1390 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,520 and we're just happy that Water Defense, 1391 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,880 we're lucky enough that Water Defense paid for it, 1392 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,640 and I had a stack of paper, actually, and handed to my doctor, 1393 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,840 who looked at it and went, "Oh, my God." 1394 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,520 And welcome to the Seventh Ward community meeting. 1395 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,080 Did you guys sign in? 1396 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,680 I don't want to limit discussion because... 1397 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,680 I can't do Wednesday night or Thursday night 1398 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,080 because I'm going to go testify in front of Congress. 1399 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,120 It was so bad. 1400 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,520 I'm sure it did. 1401 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,440 But he's losing his shit. 1402 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,080 Thursday, the 16th. Good. I'm leaving Wednesday night. 1403 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,800 Good, OK. 1404 01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,080 Two years after the water crisis began, 1405 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,360 residents continued to pin their hopes on the legal system 1406 01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,040 to get compensation. 1407 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,400 It's a very sombre feeling because the legal system 1408 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,520 is a very slow moving system, 1409 01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,760 and, you know, we have community meetings 1410 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,280 to keep our clients informed and updated, 1411 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,960 and a lot of times, we have to tell them we're still in the midst 1412 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,040 of answering motions and responding to motions 1413 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,720 to dismiss that the defendants have filed. 1414 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,600 And it's what we believe is just a delay tactic. 1415 01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,200 I received paperwork from the class action 1416 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,320 and I have a question before I sign it. 1417 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,400 I had a miscarriage throughout this crisis, 1418 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,080 and lost twins, and they gave me a blood transfusion. 1419 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,880 I believe that the lead was the cause of my miscarriage. 1420 01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,160 We need you to bring your medical records so that 1421 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,320 we can have an expert evaluate to see. 1422 01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,720 Have you had any other children? 1423 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,160 My son is seven. He's been kicked out of school 56 times. 1424 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:55,640 56 times. 1425 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,240 56 times this year. 1426 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,600 And he needs special education services now. 1427 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,400 He has nightmares. He sleepwalks. 1428 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,000 And it's like they knowingly knew that that water was poisoned, 1429 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,440 and let us drink it. 1430 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,080 APPLAUSE 1431 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,720 As of today's date, they have not done anywhere what they need to do. 1432 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,240 They have not dug up these pipes. 1433 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,280 They have not provided us safe drinking water. 1434 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,760 And we don't believe the water you're bathing in is safe. 1435 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,120 No, it's not. 1436 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,120 Tonight, you're going to hear from some experts, 1437 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,000 who are going to provide you with information 1438 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,640 that you need to decide for yourself. 1439 01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,080 Towards the middle - the gentleman at the back? 1440 01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,120 The government immunity - how can this guy say 1441 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,720 that just because they're the government, 1442 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,760 they're not liable for killing us? 1443 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,760 Yes! 1444 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,160 I've been so sick, but, you know, I have to get her from school. 1445 01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,320 I have no option. That's the way we have to do it right now. 1446 01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,440 And here's Michigan School for the Deaf to the left. 1447 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,640 It's a state-run school. 1448 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,400 I sit here usually, and wait till they come out. 1449 01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,800 It's almost like we've been displaced, 1450 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,880 not only from our home, but from our lives, you know? 1451 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,800 It's like everything's stopped... 1452 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,800 ..until this problem's over with, you know? 1453 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,640 I'm tired. 1454 01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,320 Oh, there she is. 1455 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,200 Stop, you've got to watch... Stay over here. I know. 1456 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,400 Don't! Don't get in my purse. You want to be grounded? 1457 01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:22,840 A whole month! 1458 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,640 Get my purse, you get grounded. A month. 1459 01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,520 SHE SHRIEKS 1460 01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,920 I've seen that video with Scott Smith talking about the bacteria, 1461 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,400 so I called Scott Smith up and invited him over to my house 1462 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,800 to do some testing. 1463 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,520 I don't want you going in there now because of what's going on. 1464 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:46,640 Taylor. 1465 01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:49,800 I need my mask. 1466 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,640 I know you do, but that's not going to happen today. 1467 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,560 Are you going to listen to me, or do I have to stay out here? 1468 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,280 'I know the kids and everything...' 1469 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,840 Are you going to wait, and stay out here, or do I have to wait? 1470 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,720 '..they can't, you know, be exposed to it either.' 1471 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,160 I want you to stay in the car. You don't have a mask to go inside. No. 1472 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,880 'I'm not going to take that chance.' 1473 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,440 Get in the car, now. 1474 01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:18,320 Florlisa Fowler has now abandoned her home, 1475 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,760 and is living in temporary accommodation outside of town. 1476 01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,560 It's not worth our lives, but we want to come home. 1477 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,200 KNOCKING 1478 01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,440 Please! Get back in the car. 1479 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,240 SHE PANTS 1480 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,360 I hate to go nuclear on people, but when they refuse to listen 1481 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,840 to reason, or they're unscientific, you have no choice, so... 1482 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,000 RADIO DJ ANNOUNCEMENT 1483 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,600 Joining me now, as promised, is Dr Marc Edwards. 1484 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,920 Kids are getting hurt. 1485 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,800 Mothers have called me and said they're afraid of letting their kids 1486 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,920 bathe or shower or wash their hands, 1487 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,080 scared off from normal hygiene 1488 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,280 by the claims of these pseudoscientists. 1489 01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,520 Edwards points to a recent spike in gastrointestinal illnesses 1490 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,040 reported recently by the Genesee County Health Department. 1491 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,720 Edwards says he has a problem with how samples were collected. 1492 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,280 Right now, EPA across every American city gathers its samples 1493 01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,720 the same way, through one point of distribution of cold water. 1494 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:20,360 Water Defense gathers its samples from water heaters and hot showers. 1495 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,400 Are you prepared to accept the liability and the consequences 1496 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,920 that your words will have - 1497 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,200 your false, irresponsible, unscientific statements? 1498 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,000 You expose a Hollywood fraud, 1499 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,240 it turns out it's a little bit... it's a little bit tricky, 1500 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,920 because people, again, have this presumption of, 1501 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,320 "Oh, this is the good guy," 1502 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,000 just like the government agencies were good guys, supposedly, 1503 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,320 when they weren't. 1504 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,240 So you're talking about Mark Ruffalo? 1505 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,320 Yeah. Mark Ruffalo. This is his group. 1506 01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,560 No-one would be listening to Scott Smith 1507 01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,800 and buying into his stupid pseudoscience 1508 01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,920 unless Mark Ruffalo was behind it. 1509 01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:03,560 Mark Ruffalo's in the pictures with these stupid sponges. 1510 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,760 Mark, it's a pleasure to have you back. 1511 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,880 So, what is it that brought the two of you together? 1512 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:12,200 Water Defense was looking for some kind of testing method 1513 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,960 that was really thorough and subtle. 1514 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,080 And I saw him and I said, this guy really knows what he's doing 1515 01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,000 and he's got a disruptive breakthrough technology. 1516 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,880 We have a platform to introduce him to the world. 1517 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,040 And Scott was brought on as our chief scientist. 1518 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,200 Mark Ruffalo is retweeting Scott's messages about lead in homes 1519 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,280 that have no lead, in Flint. 1520 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,680 So in the end, you have to attack the man behind the curtain. 1521 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,240 And I know nothing about this person, 1522 01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:48,640 except, of all the scientists in the world that you could hire 1523 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,680 to expose water problems, 1524 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,800 why did you hire this pseudoscientific fraud, 1525 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,320 who has no science degree, and call him a chief scientist? 1526 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,040 It's beyond comprehension to me. 1527 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,240 What was your reaction when there were some professors who 1528 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,440 took issue with some comments that you'd made? Do you have a response? 1529 01:31:08,440 --> 01:31:09,680 I want to ask you directly. 1530 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,240 The important thing to remember is those people are really sick there, 1531 01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,760 and that we should focus on them, 1532 01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,320 not... not people getting, uh, feeling like... 1533 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,560 ..the information coming out of there, which is just test results, 1534 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,640 and that's the conversation we should be having, 1535 01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:33,920 not whether or not my organisation is scientists, 1536 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,400 because we've admitted we're citizen scientists, you know? 1537 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,200 And so all we're doing is giving people information, 1538 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,680 and there's nothing wrong with that. 1539 01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,320 The more information people have, the better off they are. 1540 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:48,240 To say that giving information to the people is somehow scaring them, 1541 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,400 that's not what I'm hearing from the community. 1542 01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:51,960 Ask the community, they'll tell you. 1543 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,800 I'm worried about chloroform. I'm worried about acetone. 1544 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,960 I'm worried about all these other chemicals 1545 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,560 they don't want to talk about. 1546 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,120 I've worked with an independent water expert, 1547 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,680 and his name is Scott Smith. 1548 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,640 CHEERING 1549 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,360 Scott Smith, who's tested our house a couple of times, 1550 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:12,000 says we have some of the highest levels of chloroform in our house. 1551 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,280 Scott Smith has also tested my water. I have 97 pages. 1552 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:22,000 This is everything that is in my water, 1553 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,600 from lead, to other heavy contaminants 1554 01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,600 and bacterias. 1555 01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,680 Carbon tetrachloride... 1556 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,040 Some of the stuff I had to Google and look up 1557 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,000 because I don't even know how to pronounce some of the stuff that's in my water. 1558 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,200 They even got volatile organic compounds, 1559 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,320 which I don't know what that means, 1560 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,240 but I'm glad I got the paperwork on everything. 1561 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,240 Maybe they just want to be there early. I don't know. They said 10am. 1562 01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:09,000 Professor Edwards is back in Flint, this time to testify in court. 1563 01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,240 I mean, you can't make this shit up. 1564 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,880 This is like Bonfire of the Vanities, 21st century version. 1565 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:21,440 And so, I'm the enemy. I've been branded a traitor. 1566 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:23,200 It's the scientist's curse. 1567 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,600 If you tell people the truth, folks are going to get mad at you. 1568 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:32,120 Some of the residents, they welcomed you as a hero back in August, 2015. 1569 01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,600 And now they say, "Well, you're appearing to defend the state." 1570 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,800 I've just been defending and speaking the truth from the start, 1571 01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,160 and when speaking the truth was in their interest, 1572 01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,160 of course, that was when we were heroes. 1573 01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,120 Unfortunately, we're the ones saying the things 1574 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,520 that they don't want to hear now. 1575 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,880 The truth, the data, 1576 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,280 are showing that the water's getting better, 1577 01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,080 and there's other groups claiming the water's getting worse every day, 1578 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,200 that people are dying from the water, 1579 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,680 that nothing that this relief effort has done 1580 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,760 has made a difference at all. 1581 01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,320 All rise, please. 1582 01:34:12,440 --> 01:34:16,280 Governor Snyder's top health official, Dr Eden Wells, 1583 01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,480 has been charged with involuntary manslaughter 1584 01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:23,520 for allegedly covering up the outbreak of Legionnaires' disease. 1585 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,320 Edwards is testifying in her defence. 1586 01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,040 Did you have any knowledge, as we sit here today, 1587 01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,560 that sputum samples that the Michigan Department of Health 1588 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,440 and Human Services were destroyed in March 2015? 1589 01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:36,560 No. 1590 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,120 Do you have any knowledge about 1591 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,640 how many sputum samples they currently have? 1592 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,880 They sent us all the ones they claimed to have. 1593 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,040 Well, "claim" is an ambiguous term. Do you think they're lying to you? 1594 01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,120 What do you think about the cost of this case? 1595 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,760 It's cost millions of dollars already, and who's paying for it? 1596 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:57,840 We are. 1597 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,440 We're paying for representing against us. 1598 01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:02,000 I don't understand that at all. 1599 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,960 How are we, the people of the state of Michigan, 1600 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,600 being charged for a mistake from the state of Michigan, 1601 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,520 or whoever caused this problem? It's ridiculous. 1602 01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,720 Over $30 million of public funds have been spent, 1603 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,720 both prosecuting and defending the government officials involved. 1604 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,800 Professor Edwards has now started his own legal action. 1605 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,640 We're going to go in right now on Virginia Tech's Marc Edwards. 1606 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:50,920 The same Marc Edwards that was once hailed as environmental saviour 1607 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,240 of Flint, by revealing the folks in Flint were being lied to 1608 01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,240 about the quality of their water. 1609 01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,200 And now Marc Edwards is trying to silence 1610 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,760 the activist community in Flint by filing litigation against them. 1611 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:09,400 We thought it was a joke. 1612 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,480 And then, when I sent it off to an attorney, 1613 01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,960 he said, "No, it's not", he said, "but, wow!" 1614 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:21,760 A university professor is suing a Flint resident for $3 million. 1615 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,480 It's horrible. 1616 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:29,520 I never in a million years thought that what happened could happen. 1617 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:37,400 An anonymous letter was sent, saying horrible things about me. 1618 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:44,240 There was a Flint resident whose metadata was on the document. 1619 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,280 You're talking about Melissa Mays? Melissa Mays. 1620 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,720 Why hit the litigation button? 1621 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,000 Did you have to go down that route? 1622 01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:53,120 Yes. 1623 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:54,400 No, I had no choice. 1624 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,880 You've got to realise, this letter was being used to destroy us. 1625 01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,800 This letter was taken to professional conferences, 1626 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,320 interrupting my students' presentation, 1627 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,120 handed out to participants. 1628 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,280 "Virginia Tech is unethical." 1629 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,360 He personally told me, when we first started working together, 1630 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,160 in July, August 2015, I was a hero, 1631 01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,040 and I did the right thing by speaking out and speaking the truth. 1632 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,360 Melissa was just incredible. 1633 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,960 She was always there, front and centre. Truly heroic. 1634 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,880 I had never stopped doing that, 1635 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,080 and talking about what it's like to live here, 1636 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,560 telling people this is what we're going through. 1637 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,440 And now he's suing me for it. 1638 01:37:34,440 --> 01:37:38,000 I'm sad whenever anyone goes post-truth. 1639 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,920 It's part of what contributes to this horrific loss of trust 1640 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,800 that we're living with, and not just in America, 1641 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,960 across the Western democracies. 1642 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,760 And people have to be held accountable. 1643 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,400 What if we lose? 1644 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:53,760 We'll have nothing. 1645 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:54,960 We'll have no home. 1646 01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,680 We will have... My kids... 1647 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,040 Six days after Melissa Mays is sued by Marc Edwards, 1648 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,280 there is another unexpected twist. 1649 01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,320 Scott Smith suddenly switches sides. 1650 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,200 He comes to Flint to make a public apology. 1651 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,840 I imagine this is shocking for some people, on the heels of a special 1652 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,200 blog post, with some lessons he learned in Flint 1653 01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,840 and clarifying the facts. 1654 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,040 Scott Smith, special guest in studio with us, set the record straight 1655 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,560 about certain aspects of his work. 1656 01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,360 Obviously, you know, made some mistakes. 1657 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,920 I'm fully accountable for all the mistakes. 1658 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,960 That's why I did this. Never did I ever intend to cause panic or fear. 1659 01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,320 For those people that I caused panic or fear, I deeply apologise. 1660 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,560 Obviously, I am not a water expert scientist by any means whatsoever, 1661 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,280 but I do think out of the box. 1662 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,120 Smith says his own research in Flint was faulty 1663 01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,160 and that the chemical levels he found in Flint's water were normal, 1664 01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:05,920 and not dangerous. 1665 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,120 He says Professor Edwards was right all along. 1666 01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,520 I don't think that there's any way that I would believe a scientist 1667 01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,120 saying that this Flint water is safe. 1668 01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,000 Water line right there. More water, Mum! 1669 01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,120 More water. 1670 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,280 Scott Smith says, "Look, I'm sorry if I caused you distress." 1671 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,760 What do you feel when you hear his apology? 1672 01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,160 All of a sudden his tone has changed around to, 1673 01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,560 "Oh, I didn't do this right", or whatever it may be. 1674 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:42,280 I really don't have any words for Scott Smith, as of right now. 1675 01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,440 Hey, Scott. Good morning. Good to see you. 1676 01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:49,720 I'm so happy you're filming this. You have no idea. 1677 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,760 There's national media interest reaching out to me since all this. 1678 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,440 I declined everything because I wanted it to happen in Flint, 1679 01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,640 and nothing better with you. 1680 01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:01,000 So, Scott, give me your name and title. 1681 01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:06,120 Scott C Smith. Formerly the chief investigator for Water Defense. 1682 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,600 And what are you now, Scott? 1683 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,760 Now I am the owner, or CEO, of Aquaflex Holdings LLC. 1684 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,320 So this is a bit of an about-turn, because 1685 01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,240 when I interviewed you at the Hampton Inn, 1686 01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,320 when you were bringing in samples, I remember you saying to me, 1687 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,760 "This is the real lab. This is where the science is done." 1688 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,760 Were you wrong? I was... 1689 01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,440 ..right and wrong, 1690 01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:31,840 but I was entirely wrong about Dr Edwards. 1691 01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,800 But did you fear that you were going to face legal action, unless... 1692 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,520 No, no. There's no arrangement. 1693 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,080 He was not threatening to sue me at all. 1694 01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,560 If anything, I was going... I decided it's time to, 1695 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,200 in talking to my personal attorney, 1696 01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,760 you know, the best retraction or correction you can get. 1697 01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,880 Admit where you made mistakes. 1698 01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:53,040 But why didn't you correct Mark Ruffalo at the time and say, 1699 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,040 "I'm not a chief scientist, I have no scientific qualifications"? 1700 01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,360 We changed that. I forget what year we changed it. That was early on. 1701 01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,960 I don't know what video... There's so many videos out there. 1702 01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,720 I'd have to look at the right videos. 1703 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,280 At the time, Water Defense, you know, 1704 01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,040 that's what they wanted to call me. 1705 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:12,800 But the point is, is that people saw you as a scientist. 1706 01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,480 So when you came in and you did those tests, they believed that... 1707 01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:19,320 You're asking a question with your opinion. 1708 01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,040 I'm not going to respond to that. 1709 01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:24,720 But... You're telling me how people viewed me, and that's hearsay. 1710 01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:30,200 I'm not going to allow anybody to spin this against me ever again. 1711 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,120 With all due respect. You have an agenda here. 1712 01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,080 I'm just repeating what the residents have said to me. 1713 01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,560 I never promoted myself as an expert. 1714 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,680 I promoted it never, ever. 1715 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,000 So the water bug tests, were they legitimate? 1716 01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,720 Do you stand by those as a way of determining 1717 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,360 whether people's water... What's your definition of legitimate? 1718 01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,880 The testing... Your definition of legitimate, this is a gotcha moment. 1719 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,760 You know what? I volunteered to do these interviews. 1720 01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,680 Is this where we're going? 1721 01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,960 Thank God I got that other camera. 1722 01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,720 So you don't think that a water bug picking up other stuff 1723 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,360 that's on the bottom of the bathtub, there's any problem with that? 1724 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,360 I... You know, um... 1725 01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,960 You'd... You have to do a variety of tests. 1726 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,080 I mean, you know, there possibly could be, 1727 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,360 it just... It was... It was a research method 1728 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,320 at the time that we used, you know, so... 1729 01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,760 It was... It was to see what the results would be, you know? 1730 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,240 Obviously, it's going to detect the presence of other chemicals. 1731 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,960 And then when you take it, you know, and we've changed that 1732 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,800 and we've adapted. 1733 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,720 So you're saying to me here, on camera, 1734 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,560 that the water bug is not a legitimate test? 1735 01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,880 I'm not saying that at all. Don't put words in my mouth, 1736 01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,800 and watch out for defamation if you say that. 1737 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,600 Here we are in Flint. 1738 01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:10,040 So LeeAnne's house is pretty much a ground zero for lead. 1739 01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,600 Lead samples that came back from her house in 2015 1740 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,040 were toxic waste levels of lead. Shall we go in? 1741 01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,760 Are they waiting for us in here? 1742 01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,040 Higher. Yeah? Good! 1743 01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:28,360 I guess the first thing that comes to mind when I watched some of the footage and saw some of your story, 1744 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,040 why are you still here? 1745 01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,800 Because this is our community. 1746 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,840 My husband was born and raised here, 1747 01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,920 and this is where we've purchased our home. 1748 01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,640 This is where our friends and family are. 1749 01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,800 I can tell you it takes me 20 gallons of bottled water, 1750 01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,720 actual gallons, to bathe my seven-year-olds, and we... 1751 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,800 You do that how? You heat it up on the stove. 1752 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:50,880 You heat water in pots on a stove? 1753 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,280 Yes. And pour it into a bathtub. Yes. 1754 01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,160 This is a very interesting area. 1755 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,360 Why is all this boarded up - it's all abandoned? 1756 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,600 Florlisa can talk to you about this, Alec. Her house was worth $60,000. 1757 01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,600 It's now worth about $6,000. 1758 01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:14,840 How are you? 1759 01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,320 You're still going to Michigan School for the Deaf? 1760 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:21,960 Yes. Yeah? Great. Fantastic. 1761 01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,800 We're going to talk to your mum. OK. 1762 01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:25,560 You guys stay warm and we'll be back. 1763 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:29,000 I saw a cut of the film for you and your family. 1764 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,600 Your bills are over $600 a month? 1765 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,200 Mine was, this past month, $640. 1766 01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:36,840 How much water are you using? 1767 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,440 The water is now shut off, because we're not able to be in the house. 1768 01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:42,200 And there's no way you could sell your home. 1769 01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,440 Who's going to buy a home where you can't use the water? 1770 01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:46,360 Who's helping you? Nobody. 1771 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,280 This is your neighbour? Yes, this is Mrs Evans. 1772 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,760 Mrs Evans is over here, yelling at us. 1773 01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:53,960 Is the coffee still there? Don't you need it? 1774 01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:56,880 That's my son. He's deceased. 1775 01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,240 What happened to him? 1776 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,200 Seven guys jumped on him and beat him to death. Where? 1777 01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:02,520 Here in Michigan? 1778 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,560 Yes, about two streets over. 1779 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:05,760 No! 1780 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,680 When did that happen? How long ago? 1781 01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:08,760 '97. I'm so sorry. 1782 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,280 Did they catch them? 1783 01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:11,360 No. 1784 01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:21,280 So this is for Taylor. What have they told you 1785 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,120 about the quality of water, 1786 01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:26,400 and the filtration of the water at your school? 1787 01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,400 These chairs belonged to my grandmother. 1788 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,880 My goodness. 1789 01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,520 You love your family, I can tell. 1790 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,760 You stayed. You're here. Did you ever think about leaving? 1791 01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,600 No. Never? I'm too old. 1792 01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,480 You are? I'm 80 years old. 1793 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:51,840 You've lived in this house for how long? Since 1963. 1794 01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,680 So you raised your kids in this house? Yes. 1795 01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,920 We don't use this water. Right. You know? 1796 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,480 They want to charge you for the water, whether you use it or not. 1797 01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:00,080 We just want to come home. 1798 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,200 Are you the mayor? 1799 01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:09,520 I am. 1800 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,320 So, their neighbour... Let me just tell you this quick story. 1801 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,800 Their neighbour, Mrs Evans, an African-American woman 1802 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,280 from Mississippi... 1803 01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,240 Is she little? Yes! 1804 01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,360 Zetan? I love her! She just had us over her house for coffee and cake. 1805 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,440 Oh, wow! You know what? She invited us in her house. 1806 01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:28,440 I am her granddaughter's godmother. No! 1807 01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:29,800 Let me just ask you this. 1808 01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,800 Do you think that they let happen to Flint what happened 1809 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,840 because Flint is poor, 1810 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,400 or Flint is African-American, 1811 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,560 since all the white flight after the jobs left, or both? 1812 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,080 I think it's both. You do. 1813 01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,800 I think it's an issue of race and it was an issue of class. 1814 01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,120 I believe it's both of those factors coming together. 1815 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:50,600 Because I do believe that, had this been a different community, 1816 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,600 a more affluent community, 1817 01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,080 if it did happen, it sure would have gotten fixed. 1818 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,960 We wouldn't have had to go a year and a half, you know, 1819 01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,840 holding up jugs of brown water, 1820 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,600 people complaining about their hair, 1821 01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,680 people complaining about skin rashes, 1822 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,920 having people die of Legionnaires'. 1823 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:09,040 We didn't know this initially, but then as the doctor started looking 1824 01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,840 and researching, they said, wow, the amount of miscarriages 1825 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,040 and stillbirths went up in the city of Flint during that time. 1826 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:16,960 The cases of pneumonia went up. 1827 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,200 Were they really pneumonia, or were they Legionnaires'? We don't know. 1828 01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,800 And they're going to be finding these kinds of things out. 1829 01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,760 We have to look at what's going on in the school system, 1830 01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,720 as far as mental health and the need for mental health, 1831 01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:30,640 the juvenile justice system, 1832 01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,040 special education. 1833 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,600 Will there be an increase in foster care and adoption? 1834 01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,120 For years, people are going to be anxious. 1835 01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,080 They're going to be scared. 1836 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,040 Demoralised. Yeah, exactly. Like nobody cares. Like nobody cares. 1837 01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,120 We need to go over the performance. 1838 01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,240 This is what's going to happen. 1839 01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:56,640 We're going to enter, 1840 01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,160 lay down very quietly. 1841 01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,480 Nakia is going to give her speech, 1842 01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:03,960 then Nakia's going to lay down. 1843 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,680 Get up and silently leave. 1844 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:11,240 Think about our daughters, think about our bodies, 1845 01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,920 and really harness that emotion. Yeah. 1846 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,360 Pull up to the gate. 1847 01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:33,960 We are here today 1848 01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,720 because mothers and women across Flint 1849 01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,040 have been harmed. 1850 01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,800 This area is a crime scene. 1851 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,760 We have lost children. 1852 01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,800 The true toll of the Flint water disaster is still being tallied. 1853 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,280 Our futures have been harmed. 1854 01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,760 Health officials have reported a 58% increase in stillborn babies... 1855 01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,800 This crisis has took both of my newborn children. 1856 01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,840 ..and a spike in miscarriages. 1857 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:04,680 At least 200 fewer children were born as a result. 1858 01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:10,160 Scientists estimate that as many as 50 people may have died 1859 01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,120 from Legionnaires' disease in Flint, 1860 01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,320 making it the worst outbreak in US history. 1861 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,680 Scratch the rough skin on the baby elephant... 1862 01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,320 According to the Michigan Department of Education, 1863 01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,080 reading scores in Flint have fallen by 50%. 1864 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,000 Feel the fluffy, yellow duck. 1865 01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,960 So we have formed a dynamic team. 1866 01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,520 We have been very active and on the move. 1867 01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,280 We have already filed multiple pieces of litigation... 1868 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:38,960 None of the class action cases 1869 01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,600 have resulted in direct compensation for the residents... 1870 01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:46,760 ..and no-one has gone to jail. 1871 01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,520 'Bombshell breaking news in the Flint water crisis.' 1872 01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:50,920 Criminal charges dropped... 1873 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,160 ..against eight current and former officials. 1874 01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,680 A move that wipes clean involuntary manslaughter charges 1875 01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,120 against key players in the crisis. 1876 01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:04,360 Marc Edwards had his lawsuit against Melissa Mays dismissed. 1877 01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,920 The judge ruled that the accusations made about him 1878 01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:11,160 are protected by the constitutional right to free speech. 1879 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,960 Governor Snyder, we've been asking for an interview with your office 1880 01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,600 for this film that we're making and we've been refused. 1881 01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,120 I wonder if you could explain to me why that is. 1882 01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,560 I'm not aware of that. 1883 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,640 I'll be happy to have people take it offline with you. 1884 01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,920 You are in violation. 1885 01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,280 The police are on their way. 1886 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:48,080 Charges will be pressed against you 1887 01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:49,960 for trespassing on property 1888 01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,080 that is protected under Homeland Security. 1889 01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,200 Police are on their way. 1890 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,760 You are trespassing on property 1891 01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,640 that is protected under Homeland Security. 1892 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,520 The police are on their way. 1893 01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,800 MUSIC: "Crown" by Mama Sol 1894 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:58,120 # I can't say that I've always walked no straight and narrow 1895 01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:02,960 # But I did name my kid after an Egyptian pharaoh, yeah 1896 01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,520 # And I can't say life for me just been some sorta walk in the park 1897 01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:07,600 # Yeah 1898 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,800 # But like a spark in the dark or a dart to the heart 1899 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,360 # I'll bring light and love 1900 01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,960 # I put nothing above 1901 01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,360 # My God My God 1902 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,960 # My scars are reminders of the pain I've surpassed 1903 01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,720 # It's amazing how we forget so fast the blood in our veins 1904 01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,560 # Contains the DNA of the ancient ones 1905 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,840 # Disappointing how complacent we've become 1906 01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,200 # I meditate with the rising sun 1907 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,640 # First stage is pray 1908 01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,440 # On a path and the path is prepared 1909 01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:33,640 # I'm very aware 1910 01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:35,840 # We are at war more than ever before 1911 01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,160 # Until the boss of an entire ancestral energy's empire 1912 01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:42,080 # And when we strike back, we under attack 1913 01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,480 # From so many angles 1914 01:53:43,480 --> 01:53:45,960 # How can you pose for a pic with your family and smile 1915 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,000 # When behind you a dead body dangles? 1916 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,320 # Think about that 1917 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,680 # Don't give up your crown 1918 01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,040 # Don't give up your throne, king 1919 01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,240 # Cos our time is now 1920 01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,840 # Let it be known, queen 1921 01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,080 # Send movie stars 1922 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,440 # Send in some guys 1923 01:54:03,440 --> 01:54:05,840 # They know who we are 1924 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,520 # See, it was by design for us 1925 01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:11,960 # To be on welfare 1926 01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,200 # Live in projects with no health care 1927 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,240 # Very little direction 1928 01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,480 # But we have our pride 1929 01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:21,440 # At the high water here collecting promise 1930 01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:23,640 # Neglect our looks 1931 01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,680 # Send more liquid till depression comes 1932 01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,320 # Sneaking in, it's sink or swim 1933 01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,360 # Where I'm from There's lead in the water 1934 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,560 # I ain't asleep or dumb... # 1935 01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:36,240 MUSIC FADES 254228

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