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This film contains
some strong language
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WOMAN: Now, we come in peace
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with the intent to increase
and restore hope for the hopeless,
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and love is the focus,
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I pray that this message will reach
far beyond the clouds, God.
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We need you involved now.
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Your spirit is needed,
so this isn't repeated.
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Why is it like this, a crisis?
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I cry with my white fist lifted
for my brothers and sisters.
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These little kids
are becoming statistics.
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Honestly, I'm questioning
if this was intended.
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It has been five decades since Flint
used the river for drinking water.
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Today, they open up the gates
to start that process again.
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Using river water for drinking water
brings a unique set of challenges.
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But the city of Flint is doing many
things to make sure this water meets
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the expectations of those who live
in the city.
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ALL: Three, two, one.
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Here's to the plant.
To the plant. Hear, hear!
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REPORTER: Flint residents have been
dealing with a mountain of trouble
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since the city began pumping
water from the Flint River.
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I don't trust it.
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Residents in some parts
of Flint distrustful
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of what is coming out of their taps.
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This is the story
of what happens next.
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No, it's my ball.
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I'm looping in
all of these shots.
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All the water hydrants in
the neighbourhood, all running,
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full blast, 24/7,
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and the water, completely brown.
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And that's when I really realised
that something was wrong.
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Can you beat me?
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Huh?
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Liza, you're on my team.
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Hey, hey, hey.
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Hey, how's it going?
They're kicking my butt.
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Our 12-year-old son, Jeremiah.
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I got him.
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Oh, see, I told you.
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It started off with the skin rashes
and the itching.
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What looked like chickenpox.
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I know it's due to the water,
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because he's never had
these issues before,
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and we've never had such serious
health problems before.
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I've been in and out of hospitals.
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And then, these bumps started
appearing all over my left arm.
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Once it happened, we just stopped,
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and started... went to baby wipes.
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Oh, baby wipes.
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We have to... have to manage.
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REPORTER: ..have been protesting
about the water problems in Flint...
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They go from being high-energy,
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wanting to do things,
to just wanting to sleep.
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Go grab your jacket.
Look in the hallway.
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REPORTER: Residents have been
complaining about the quality
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of their water for months.
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Then lay down
and do nothing at all.
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TV: Quite disgusting.
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Their personalities have changed.
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And ever since we started drinking
the water, it has gotten worse.
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HE SNIFFS
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As a mother...
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..it breaks my heart,
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because there's nothing I can do.
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I want to go sit in the house.
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Do you need a little bit more water?
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Now, we have it.
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Uh-oh, you're wasting more.
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Right here.
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Oh, that's cold!
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We need more, Mom.
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We've got to heat the water up,
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extra energy that I have to pay for.
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MICROWAVE BEEPS
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BOTH: Two, one.
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HE MIMICS BEEPING
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Go in there.
It's really hot, hot, hot.
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You've got to get a lather.
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I will never trust the water.
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For months, the residents of Flint
are told their water may look bad,
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but it's perfectly safe,
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by the very environmental agencies
who were supposed to protect them.
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My family and I drink the water
every day.
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It's your standard tap water.
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You know, you taste a little bit
of the chlorine.
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We have to do some work
on our water treatment plant.
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And that'll save us some money,
which, in the long term...
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You're killing us! Sir!
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I'm not killing anybody.
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I think people feel that
their bodies and their lives
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and their wellbeing
is being compromised.
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I get in the shower and...
Like she does. Excuse me.
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There you go. On her back.
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You going to kill me and my husband?
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What you going to do?
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I'm afraid to use the water
in my home.
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I'm afraid to go into my bathroom
and take a shower.
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The Flint River causes
General Motors' car parts to rust.
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It was one thing after another.
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They were treating the water
before filtering it,
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which caused them to have to use
more chlorine.
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GM says those higher chlorine levels
create some sort of corrosion.
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They did the news broadcast,
and I was like,
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"If it's corroding parts,
then what is it doing to us?"
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It's gone. Yeah.
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GIRL SCREECHES
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Yeah, she's trying
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to be really helpful here.
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But these are the five-gallon ones
that we have to use.
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BOTTLE GURGLES
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I'm extremely upset.
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They're literally messing
with our children's lives.
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OK, then, I'll match that.
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SHE LAUGHS
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Yellow. Yellow? Yellow.
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Uno. Where's your piece?
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No, uno. Oh, you did...
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You've got to pick up the cards.
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SHE LAUGHS
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He got you.
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I keep the door closed and I keep
the desk in front of the door.
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I've not used it since they did
the switch to the Flint River.
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So, this was my getaway...
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..at home.
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And now it's not.
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There's nothing more fundamental
to your life than water.
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And for that to be what can actually
hurt you, cripple you or kill you
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is just something that
you could never get over.
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RADIO PRESENTER: Flint's news on
1470 WFNT.
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Dan Foley here with you.
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We've got a lot of guests
we're going to talk to.
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Dan Foley, Sherman Mays.
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The political aspect of it,
people are swooping in here.
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You get this crisis of trust.
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And the question is, who do
you trust and what do you turn to?
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We're going to play a little bit
of this and we'll come back.
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No, I don't need the last break.
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I love my job.
I love what I do here.
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I've been here almost 20 years.
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There's a certain toughness.
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There's an attitude.
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Flint courage, Flint love.
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Bravery, bones.
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Every resident of Flint,
we are soldiers.
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And you root for Flint.
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Obviously, huge, huge problems.
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There's challenges
for Flint, absolutely.
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You've got a shrinking city,
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you've got a tax base
that's just destroyed.
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There's not a lot of money
in the city of Flint.
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You hate to see what it's become.
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Oh, Flint high, Flint strong,
Flint proud.
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But this city was
the Silicon Valley of the day.
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It's amazing, the history in Flint.
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ARCHIVE: Here's the very first
GM car.
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Giant assembly plants -
the great producing units
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of the nation's mightiest
manufacturing enterprise await.
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New wealth flourishes,
and new prosperity grows.
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Booming - richest city
in the country...
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The whole city rocking -
Flint, Michigan,
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throws a birthday party...
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50 million General Motors cars...
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America says, "Now I know
why people love Flint!"
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So, the population peaked
at about 190,000 in the 1970s
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and about 80,000 people
worked in the shops there.
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General Motors confirmed today
it is going to close plants
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employing almost 30,000 workers.
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By 2010, the population
is cut in half
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and only 8,000 are still
working for GM,
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less than 10% of what it was.
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According to the FBI,
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Flint now has the highest
violent crime rate in America.
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The city enters a period
of wrenching economic decline.
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I, Richard D Snyder,
do solemnly swear
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to uphold the Constitution
of the United States,
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in the office of governor.
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Promising to turn things around,
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a new governor, Rick Snyder, pledges
to run Michigan like a business.
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The old ways don't work.
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I'm an accountant and your governor.
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I've found I can help more people
when the numbers add up.
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The governor strips the Flint City
Council of its powers,
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and his team makes deep cuts
to police, fire protection
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and other public services.
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Our city is gripped
by a spirit of hopelessness.
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People are saying, "I have
no voice, I have no democracy."
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What's more important?
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What's more valuable?
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Is it the budget,
or is it your citizens?
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Now we're talking about cutting
police and fire.
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Then what?
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Do we close the doors on the city?
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We're on the road to recovery
for every Michigander.
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You might not feel it yet,
but you will soon.
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To save more money,
the state also forces the city
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to stop using water
from the Great Lakes...
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..and instead,
switch to the Flint River.
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Here's to Flint! Hear, hear!
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The change was made
to save $5 million.
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Oh, wow.
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So you'll be able to see
along the wall how low -
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you can see the water lines,
and how low the river is.
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You can look right down
to the bottom and see car parts,
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tyres, shopping carts.
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You shouldn't be able to.
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Everything that's just been thrown
in there because the Flint River
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has been a dumping site
for 100 years.
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Half the time, you walk down the
river, you find a body floating.
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The animals that go drink from it,
they die.
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So the thought that we would
actually be drinking this,
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most of us just thought
it was a joke.
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Flip the switch
and run the water on warm,
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and then tell me
if anything is discoloured. OK.
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Thank you. Love you.
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So, here is
Water You Fighting For?
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What we do is we collect news
articles, scientific research,
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anything that's happening, videos...
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Watch what comes
out of my drinking tap.
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Some of our preliminary research,
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this is just some of the things
that people have sent us.
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I want to know where were
the trouble areas in the city.
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The red stars are people
that have had medical issues -
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hair loss, rashes,
bad colour and odour.
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So if they checked off all those on
the sheets, we put the stars on.
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I'm grateful for you guys
to get out on the front line
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and do the political work
and investigative work.
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My husband designed
these door hangers.
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Basically says, "Please be advised,
we're here to help us help you."
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What do we want? Clean water!
When do we want it? Now!
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Flint lives matter!
Flint lives matter!
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Fix our pipes! Fix our pipes!
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We have come to pray -
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broken spirits, broken lives.
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See what happens when you elect
a businessman to run the state!
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He doesn't care about the people
that he hurts.
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He doesn't care about the lives
he affects!
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Enough is enough!
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We want our water fixed now!
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Taking matters into their own hands,
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residents organise their own
city-wide water testing
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with the help of
Professor Marc Edwards,
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a highly decorated scientist
from Virginia Tech University.
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Do you have pictures of those
at all?
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Pull out the data for these.
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He made his reputation uncovering
a water contamination scandal
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in Washington DC.
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We're one of the few labs
in the country, a CSI of plumbing,
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if you will, that solves
people's problems
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that they experience
in their houses,
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and it's proving to be the research
frontier of the 21st century.
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Can you do that? Look straight at
the camera. Come here.
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Hold still.
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We're a pretty normal
family of five.
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My husband and I have been married
for 19 and a half years,
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and we have three amazing sons,
Caleb, Christian and Cole.
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And we do normal things.
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HEAVY METAL MUSIC
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I am a promoter.
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I manage bands. One actually
practises in the house.
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In that same general vicinity, you
will see an autographed guitar.
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So make sure you get your tickets
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because that is a one...
That guitar one...
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One of a kind!
I'm not even drinking yet!
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One of a kind guitar!
Speaking of drinking,
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I think I should get started,
so should you,
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but right now, I want you guys
to give it up for Portals!
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Thank you, Melissa!
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OK, will you put these
under the sink? Give those to Dad,
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and then put this up in the cabinet
for me, please.
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Thank you.
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We have a government state
not listening to us,
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so we are testing
300 people's homes.
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This photo is awesome.
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This is Virginia Tech.
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They have students over in Virginia
that are sending us 300 test kits.
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They're sending us the bottles.
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Next week, we're going to test
people's homes, and we are going
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to get accurate answers
for copper and lead.
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Everything you're going to need
to do the sampling
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is in the sampling kit box
that you receive.
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And let that first litre fill up.
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When it's done,
I'll take note of the time,
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and set them all aside
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and let the tap run for 45 seconds.
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When we started this, we didn't know
what we'd find, but we had to act.
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I mean, children literally,
I felt, were unprotected...
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..by the law.
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By the agencies
who are paid to protect them.
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This is a bottle
we put the water in.
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We walked them through and we sent
everybody the YouTube link.
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It's time to repackage them
to send them back to Virginia Tech.
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Do you need someone to pick it up?
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OK, where are you located?
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We're going to send them
to Virginia Tech.
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Seal it up...
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Everyone's complaining,
why is my water red?
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Why does my water taste bad?
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Yeah, we've got an outsider,
ain't no politics in it, you know?
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He has no reason to come in here
and tell us a story.
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This is Marc you're talking about?
Right. So I was like, "Great!"
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We've got an outsider doing it,
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and everybody kind of was looking
for somebody to tell the truth.
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Volunteers deliver hundreds
of water sampling kits
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to homes throughout the city.
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Should be the first left
after Port Street...
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I've been here since I was two,
and I'm 66.
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This is it! Yup!
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What kind of water does he drink?
I give him bottled water.
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I mean, it's just heart wrenching.
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It's like, "What?! Are you serious?"
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People are going through a lot
with this water.
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In just six weeks, the volunteers
collected ten times as many samples
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as the state government tested
in the previous six months.
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All the bottles are being shipped
back to the lab this week
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and we should have the results
next week.
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Over 585 volunteers,
we got 277 tests back.
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This is what America is about.
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The people do rule,
and you are proving that.
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We have people with
158 parts per million lead...
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Melissa was just incredible.
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She was always there,
front and centre, truly heroic.
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This is a collaboration
between people who are affected
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by the water and scientists
who can come and say,
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"No, this is not right.
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"They're telling you things
that aren't true."
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90% return rate.
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I've never heard anything like it.
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In fact, I would have bet money
to say it wouldn't be possible.
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30... Double check,
triple check everything.
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OK, so you're here
for the press conference.
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We're going to be
setting up over here.
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So if you want to be on camera,
go that way!
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Everybody, thank you for coming. I'm
Melissa from Water You Fighting For?
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Today is a huge, huge day
for the water fight in Flint.
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This is what...
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This is what some of the water
across the city looks like.
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I've sampled water personally
from people's homes.
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It looks like this.
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This is occurring because
the water is too corrosive.
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It has too much salt in it.
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And there was no plan
to control the corrosion.
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Flint is the only city in America
that I'm aware of
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who does not have
a corrosion control plan in place
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to stop this kind of problem.
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So, on the basis of the sampling
that Virginia Tech conducted
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in collaboration
with Flint residents,
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we estimate that the water
in about 5,000 Flint homes
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is over standards set by
the World Health Organization
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for lead in water.
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It's a tragedy, it's outrageous,
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and somebody needs to go to prison!
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When you see your child's health
go down so drastically...
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..it affects you,
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because there's nothing
you can do.
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And we need help.
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Basically, the bottom line is,
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stop trying to come up with ways
to hide the lead.
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Lead exposure has lifelong cognitive
and behavioural consequences
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that you do not see right away.
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So when paediatricians hear "lead",
they freak out.
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Lead is one of the most damning
things you can do to a child.
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How will you know it was lead?
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If they send it out to a lab.
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Hopefully, that's not going
to be the case for you.
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Aah!
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I needed to find out if that lead in
water was getting into the bodies
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of our children.
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I right away contacted
our research department
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and we found the exact same thing.
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Our elevated blood lead levels
were in the exact same locations
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where the water lead levels from the
Virginia Tech group were increased,
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so it implicated
that it was the water as a source.
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I just had a physical gut reaction
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that this is so bad.
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A new study is showing an increased
level of lead in young children.
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For kids less than five years
of age, for all of Flint,
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there was an almost doubling
of the percentage
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of kids with elevated
blood lead levels.
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I never in my life thought
that in Michigan,
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you would go through something
like this.
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The results shock Flint,
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and then all of America.
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Growing outrage
in Flint, Michigan...
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Flint, Michigan...
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..where water has been poisoned
with lead...
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Residents have fought for
themselves...
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Federal, state and local agencies
all reportedly had evidence
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the water was bad...
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The people of Flint did not
bring this on themselves.
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Through no fault of their own,
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they were poisoned
by their state's government.
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That's what settles into the bottom.
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The water will actually get clear
when you let it sit
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and all of it will settle to the
bottom, and then you shake it up.
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And you get this
out of the kitchen taps.
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13,000 parts per billion lead -
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I mean, hazardous waste
is defined as
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anything over 5,000 parts
per billion.
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So her children were literally
taking a bath in hazardous waste.
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The river water is so corrosive,
it tears off the protective layer
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from inside of Flint's lead pipes.
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It sends toxic particles
into the drinking water supply,
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00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,760
poisoning tens of thousands
of people.
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00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,120
It's like sewage water.
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00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,400
Yeah, it's not very healthy-looking,
is it?
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Lead crosses your blood brain
barrier. It's a neurotoxin.
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It causes irreversible brain damage.
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00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,640
So detecting it in children
is too late.
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It is that canary in the coal mine.
It's already too late.
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We have just altered
the life course trajectory
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of an entire generation of
Flint children.
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Despite his earlier claims
that Flint River water is safe,
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Governor Snyder is forced
to allow the city
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to use water
from the Great Lakes once again.
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Yesterday afternoon, we had a
technical advisory council meeting.
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I'm in full support of a return to
the Great Lakes Water Authority.
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We believe, based on
the technical recommendations,
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it will be better for the citizens
of Flint in terms of public safety,
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which is our paramount concern.
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CHEERING
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The first response I feel
is victory.
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Victory because, you know what?
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We gave them the science.
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00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,640
We didn't stop fighting,
and they had to make the change.
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The people of Flint are assured
the water crisis is all but over.
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While this is a victory,
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we need to still make sure
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that we remain on message,
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00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,120
and we remain in the fight,
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00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:25,320
because it's that thing where it's
like they give you a little bone
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00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,200
and then they hope you're going
to be happy with that bone.
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00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600
I see you have your water filter
there from Governor Snyder.
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Do you know how to use it?
I'll open the box up...
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00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,640
I've still got to pay
a $207 water bill this month.
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00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,280
I don't know. I guess I'll have
to read the instructions.
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00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320
And you do have to buy
replacements for these.
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00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,600
They say you're not going to
drink it, but if you haven't got
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00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,080
any money, can't buy no water,
what are you going to do?
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'Governor Rick Snyder and his wife
now drinking filtered water
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00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,480
'from Flint...'
'For the next 30 days.'
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00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,360
I don't want this to be viewed
as a gimmick kind of thing.
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00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,920
This is something serious to me.
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00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,000
Even though the river
is no longer being used,
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the drinking water
in many Flint homes
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continues to show high levels
of lead.
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00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,440
A couple of weeks ago,
I saw a thing on TV
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about, you should get
your water tested.
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The water levels that have been
tested were now online.
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00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,640
So I went to
MichiganGov/FlintWater.
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The very, very last one,
as I scrolled down,
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there was mine
at the bottom of the page.
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My lead - 5,447.
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We didn't really have a lot
of discoloration in the water,
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so it was very surprising
to find out that
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my water is one of the worst
in Flint.
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"The Virginia Tech Department
of Civil Environmental Engineering
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"has completed a lead analysis
of your tap water sample.
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00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:03,720
"The first drawn was 7.2,
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00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,200
"and the next one was 1,051."
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00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,880
Oh, gosh.
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00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240
According to Federal guidelines,
lead levels in drinking water
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over 15 parts per billion
are deemed dangerous.
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00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,920
The lead levels in this house
are 70 times higher.
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00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,520
They explained that I was not
supposed to, er,
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00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,800
you know, brush my teeth with it,
or anything like that, you know?
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00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,760
Don't drink the water in here.
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00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920
You know, it's water!
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00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,680
This is the second worst house in
terms of lead in the city of Flint.
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00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,360
In science, you learn from
studying extremes,
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00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160
like, why is there a problem here?
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00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
So we're going to pull out
her pipes.
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00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,080
Then we'll take the pipes home,
back to our lab.
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00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,560
We'll cut them open
and try to see what went wrong -
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00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,080
why is there so much lead?
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00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,160
Is there something about living
in a remote area that kind of helps
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00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,680
you deal with all this?
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00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400
No question. It's a refuge,
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00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320
and it's also something
that gives you more appreciation
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00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,560
for people than perhaps you have
when we lived in the cities.
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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,120
You know, Virginia Tech's
a land-grant institution.
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00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,480
We have a very
service oriented mission,
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00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,800
and I think that's one of
the reasons they've tolerated me
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00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,480
as long as they have,
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00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,320
because our motto is "Ut Prosim",
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00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840
and that means "That I May Serve".
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00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,480
And to some extent, all of
the trouble I've gotten into
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has exemplified that motto.
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00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,720
So these are the front pages
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00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,040
with the residents, and we really
put ourselves out there.
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00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,200
The Washington Post article.
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00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,840
This is an example
of a lead pipe from Flint.
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00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960
This lead pipe would last probably
3,000 or 4,000 years.
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00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,760
It was legally required that if
a customer wanted to connect
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to the water main, they had
to use lead, because it protected
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the city's interest -
it would not leak.
495
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,360
Thus, lead's reputation
as a great plumbing material,
496
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,400
except for the drawback
that it poisons people
497
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,960
and causes foetal death
and miscarriages.
498
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,080
You see that coming out there?
That's lead rust.
499
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,280
That's enough lead
500
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,000
to cause lead poisoning
in more than 3,000 children.
501
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320
Though Flint has
the worst poverty rate
502
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,680
of any city in the United States,
503
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,320
residents continue to pay
the nation's highest water bills.
504
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,880
So I have to get in line in a minute
here and pay for my poison.
505
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,280
You grow up in America thinking
that this is the land of the free
506
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,800
and the brave, and find out that
that's totally not true.
507
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080
If the state finds out
that you have kids in your home
508
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,640
and you don't pay your water bill,
509
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,280
then they start harassing you
510
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960
because you don't have
running water in the home.
511
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,920
They do anything and everything
to make it the citizens' fault,
512
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,680
even using your own children
against you.
513
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,040
So, out of fear, we pay for it.
514
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,480
Volunteers try to fill the gap
in the governor's response
515
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,160
to the crisis.
516
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,920
A non-profit organisation, that's
what we come in as, you know?
517
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,400
It's our job and our duty to come
up here and help them,
518
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,880
no matter what colour or race,
we come up here,
519
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,920
and we've still got water that
we collected that we haven't even
brought up here yet.
520
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,520
What a wonderful time of year
to be in Michigan
521
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,200
with our friends and families.
522
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
We're fortunate to live in such
a wonderful state and nation.
523
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,640
We're thankful
for our family and friends,
524
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120
our health, and so much more.
525
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Happy holidays, Michigan.
526
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Two weeks after
his Christmas message,
527
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Governor Snyder finally agrees to
provide one case of bottled water
528
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440
a day to each Flint family.
529
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Is there any way that we can get
more than one?
530
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,800
My daughter had a rash
on the back of her neck.
531
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,520
My youngest daughter.
She's two years old.
532
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,560
She just... She's been sick,
533
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,000
and we've been taking her
to the hospital.
534
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,560
Thank you.
535
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,920
Oh, yes, OK.
536
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,640
I think we shouldn't have to go
to them to pick it up.
537
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
What about the people
who don't have transportation?
538
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,240
You know, they have to get on the
bus, come down here, pick up water.
539
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,680
There's snow!
540
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,800
They have a sign out that says
one per household, one per day.
541
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,800
If you have six children
542
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,200
and you're only giving out
one case of 24,
543
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,680
how does that help? Especially
if you're making formula.
544
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,640
I have never gotten more than one
case of water from this location.
545
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,520
Ever. The camera does make
a lot of difference.
546
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Big time.
547
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,200
So, thank you.
548
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Hi, how are you doing?
549
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,160
I volunteer with
Michigan Faith in Action,
550
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,320
and we're here to see
if you need any water.
551
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,440
You know, you can't boil the water.
552
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,840
I just found that out. I've been
cooking my oatmeal and my grits...
553
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Yeah. ..and my spaghetti.
Lead is not like bacteria,
554
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,120
like E coli. It's metal.
555
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,840
Boiling is actually making it worse,
making it stronger in the water.
556
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,960
Here's some health information
about it.
557
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,000
So with everything, this needs to be
changed every two to three weeks.
558
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,080
Oh, really? Yeah. And you don't
want... Nobody told me that.
559
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,520
This is why we've been
going door to door.
560
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,240
This used to be my dining room.
561
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:43,080
Some of this is for my family,
and some of this is for the elderly
562
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,000
that I deliver to every two weeks,
to make sure they have water.
563
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,920
We're doing the state's job
for them.
564
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,720
They should be going door to door.
565
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:53,160
They should be, like,
talking to people
566
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,320
and really, like, assessing, like,
this is the damage.
567
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,800
Hi, how are you?
568
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,520
So, do you have bottled water?
569
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080
I have one, yeah.
I stopped to pick up.
570
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,960
So when's the last time
you changed your filter?
571
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,080
Um... You're supposed to
change it every two weeks.
572
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,440
Every... Oh, really? Yeah.
Every two weeks? Yeah.
573
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,920
I don't want to discourage people
from being helpful in contributing
574
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,800
to this crisis, because it's great
to see the volunteer efforts,
575
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,120
the outpouring of efforts.
576
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Again, I encourage people
to go to HelpforFlint.com
577
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,440
and look at financial contributions,
because again, much water
578
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
is coming in, hopefully we'll get
the water issue addressed.
579
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,080
I do appreciate people
paying their bills.
580
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,080
There's a sewer portion of this bill
and people are using that function.
581
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,880
Governor, have you been into
a Flint home yet?
582
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Have you been into one
Flint home yet, Governor?
583
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,840
Last question.
584
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,480
Governor Snyder. You insist
that the water here in Flint
585
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,880
is safe to drink,
to bathe and shower in.
586
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,040
I wonder why the people
of Flint should trust you?
587
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Filtered water has been determined
to be safe for people to drink,
588
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440
except for children,
and for pregnant women.
589
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,400
One house last month tested
22,000 parts per billion lead.
590
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Is it safe for them to use
a filter and drink that water?
591
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,280
That would be a particle.
592
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,800
And if it's 22,000,
that's a really big particle.
593
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,080
It turns out there was a problem
with the water filters
594
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,560
Governor Snyder says
will keep people safe.
595
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,080
Many residents just can't get them
to work.
596
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,520
It fell off
a couple of weeks after,
597
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040
and it won't go back up.
598
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,160
I don't know how to do it.
599
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,960
Thanks for coming.
I know it was rough drive.
600
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,960
I think we've got about 55 faucets
that we want to get done today.
601
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,880
Members of Harold Harrington's
Plumbers' Union
602
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,840
volunteer to do something about it.
603
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,680
The Red Cross called me
because they'd got these filters
604
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,200
being delivered from the state
and a lot of residents
605
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,160
could not install these filters.
606
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,440
So we started doing that.
607
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,720
He needs two filters installed.
He had a stroke.
608
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,280
He's unable to... His hands are
a little wiggly, or whatever.
609
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600
I'm going to go make sure
they take the test kits with them
610
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
and everything else, OK? OK. OK.
611
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,680
However, the lead levels
in many homes are so high,
612
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,320
the filters being handed out
by the state
613
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,480
aren't guaranteed to work.
614
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,880
The Environmental Protection Agency
issues a public health warning.
615
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,960
The EPA has issued an opinion
616
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120
that says that the toxins
617
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,800
are too high for the filters
to be effective.
618
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680
They should have known,
all these scientists.
619
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,760
They should have known that
620
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,960
these filters would not...
They should have tested it.
621
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,560
All of my girls, all girls,
622
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,640
are born with all the eggs
they're ever going to have,
623
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,400
reproductive-wise.
624
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Yes?
625
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,080
Yeah?
626
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Yeah.
627
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,360
Lead becomes a part of your bones,
628
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,000
it becomes a part of your tissues,
629
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200
it becomes a part of your
reproductive system.
630
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,200
I have no idea if this is going
to cause them to have problems
631
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,520
when they're older.
632
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,600
When did you first realise
there was a problem with the water?
633
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,760
My daughter ended up getting sick.
634
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,360
It was just like, bam, out of
control, like from day to night.
635
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
She came downstairs,
she looked like a different child.
636
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,040
OK!
637
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,040
Right then,
now your little leggies!
638
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,840
The other horrible end of it,
639
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,040
also, medical communities
are going to be
640
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,360
studying our children,
641
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,440
seeing the effects
of these chemicals
642
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,160
and these heavy metals
have on their bodies,
643
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,760
which makes me absolutely nauseous
644
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,960
because I did not volunteer
my children
645
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320
to be a part of a medical study.
646
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,280
I did not.
647
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800
If you take your child
to a paediatrician
648
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,480
and you tell them about this,
649
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,320
all they can do
is shake their head and just say,
650
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,040
"You just have to wait and see
if they have any reactions."
651
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,280
So, I figured macaroni and cheese.
652
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Actually... Dogs.
653
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,440
Bye, honey.
654
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,960
Thank you for somebody answering me.
655
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880
Come on, person.
656
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,400
We are holding
an informational meeting
657
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,120
for the class action lawsuits.
658
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,800
The state who did this to us
659
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,040
needs to pay
for people's medical expenses.
660
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,160
Not everybody has medical access,
medical insurance,
661
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,120
or the money to pay
for these expenses.
662
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,240
Plus, these kids and these adults
663
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,760
are going to need medical care
for the rest of their lives.
664
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,480
So somebody needs
to pay for that bill.
665
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,280
Oh, my. That's a lot of traffic.
Wonder if it's for us.
666
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,720
It's broken into three lawsuits now,
667
00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:04,960
so there's going to be
three different judges.
668
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,200
So it's in
the County Court of Claims,
669
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,360
as well as the State and Federal.
670
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,800
Unfortunately, we are at capacity
in this particular room,
671
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,080
and we cannot have
more people come in.
672
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Take a notebook and start writing
down everything you can think of
673
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,600
that's changed or different
since April 25th, 2014.
674
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440
Every doctor's appointment,
every rash, because it'll make it
675
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,840
a lot easier and faster
to get your information together.
676
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,560
Good evening, everyone.
ALL: Good evening!
677
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,400
All right! I want the sound
to reflect the volume of people
678
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,560
that are in this room, because
it is absolutely amazing to us
679
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,880
to have this type of turnout...
680
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600
APPLAUSE
681
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,600
..for this event.
682
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160
This is good - it means more
people not drinking the water,
683
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,800
and more people finding out about
their health, and finding out
what their rights are.
684
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,760
Most of you know me.
My name is Attorney Trisha Young.
685
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,120
I was born and raised
right here in Flint.
686
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,520
I live in Flint.
687
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,120
My office is about
two miles up the road,
688
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,000
on the corner of Saginaw and Baker.
689
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,640
The state is providing filters
and the replacement cartridges.
690
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,360
As far as we're concerned,
that's the least the state can do!
691
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,680
It's not about just getting money.
692
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,920
We do want to get some compensation
for our clients
693
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,320
that have been injured.
694
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,880
We believe they deserve
to be compensated, not just
695
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,960
for their personal injury,
but for their property loss,
696
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,240
for the emotional and mental stress
that they've have to deal with,
697
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,720
you know, for providing
and wondering about
698
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,440
the welfare of their children.
699
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,480
So we have formed a dynamic team.
700
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,480
We have been very active
and on the move.
701
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,320
We have already filed
multiple pieces of litigation.
702
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,800
So I'm going to go
to the back of the room.
703
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Do you yourself feel
that we should have
704
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,800
all of the city of Flint's
pipes replaced?
705
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,640
We don't trust what they're saying,
and we want the pipes replaced.
706
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Period.
707
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,520
In response, Flint's new mayor
pledges to replace every lead pipe
708
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,240
in the city, though she has only
a fraction of the money needed.
709
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:16,560
Mayor, how do you feel, seeing the
first lead line coming out today?
710
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080
This is the day that we've been
waiting for for a very long time.
711
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,640
So, you know,
the sun is shining on us,
712
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,760
and we couldn't ask
for a better day for,
713
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,400
you know, a wonderful event
like this.
714
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,840
Please move this way.
715
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:34,000
Well, good afternoon, everybody,
and thank you for coming out today.
716
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,720
This is a great day
for the city of Flint,
717
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,960
and it's a day that we have
been waiting for.
718
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,280
My mission is to totally
get the lead out of Flint.
719
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,600
We need to be focused on a complete
renewal of Flint's water system,
720
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,360
because we owe our residents
something. This is our start.
721
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,880
Done!
722
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,920
APPLAUSE
723
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,760
Into the future we go!
724
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,840
Good job!
725
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,280
Mayor Weaver, extremely happy
to oversee this first job,
726
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,320
acknowledged from the podium that
there's only money at the moment
727
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,280
to do about another 230 of these.
728
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,720
She would like to do about 15,000.
729
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,320
And the money won't be available
to even start really doing
730
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,960
that until October 2016,
731
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,680
so we're looking at October of 2017
732
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,480
before the city of Flint
is really beyond this crisis -
733
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,680
it's been almost two years now.
734
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,440
You have to walk?
Yes, walk or catch the bus.
735
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,720
I prefer that they would deliver
it to everybody's house,
736
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,440
instead of people having to go
pick it up themselves.
737
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,720
That's my grandson.
738
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:51,000
He's the youngest.
739
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,080
This is what I got him playing in.
740
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Right here - this is what
he's playing in and don't know it.
741
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Sliding on lead.
742
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,920
I mean, giving him a mental
disability right there.
743
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,480
That's what we have
to go through every day,
744
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:06,920
just for one person to shower.
745
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Ain't no way in the world
one case of water would do.
746
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,480
One week. It's been going on
for over a year,
747
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,880
and this is just one week!
748
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,840
How long is this going to be
in our body before...
749
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,880
..we might die?
You know, if it's irreversible,
750
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,080
how long do we have?
751
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,480
Be honest, we just started
not bathing in it...
752
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,800
After we heard about
the Legionnaires.
753
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,360
That scam. Oh, no,
I do not trust any of them.
754
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,160
I really don't.
755
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,760
Governor Snyder now reveals
a devastating new health crisis
756
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,720
that has been kept secret
for more than a year.
757
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,400
Well, thank you for coming today.
758
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,880
I'm going to share information
759
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,120
that hasn't really been put out
to the public.
760
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,600
Over the course of 2014 and 2015,
761
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,720
we saw a spike in
Legionnaires' disease.
762
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:10,960
I believe the numbers
for the preceding years before 2014,
763
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,640
we had six cases, 11 cases,
764
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,040
13 cases, and eight cases.
765
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,400
Um, in 2014, we had 45 cases.
766
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,920
It was just the muscle soreness,
respiratory.
767
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,520
I've had pneumonia before.
768
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,360
It didn't feel like the pneumonia
I had before,
769
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,280
but I could tell
my respiratory system
770
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,240
was just seriously compromised.
771
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:43,720
She was real weak. Very weak.
772
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,480
She couldn't really get
off the couch, much less go to work.
773
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,160
I need an axe
to cut through the ice.
774
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,320
That's the Flint treatment plant,
775
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480
and the intake's right there.
776
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,600
It's like Chernobyl, or something.
777
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,720
This is like the next best thing
to a time machine,
778
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,720
is recreate the outbreak
in the laboratory
779
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,400
under very well controlled
conditions.
780
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,880
We simulate the distribution,
we simulate the houses,
781
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,320
and we see how the Legionella grows.
782
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,240
What triggered that outbreak
that caused the deaths?
783
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,120
And we're really close.
784
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Marc Edwards and his team
at Virginia Tech conclude
785
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,880
that the outbreak of
Legionnaires' disease was caused
786
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,240
by the switch to the Flint River.
787
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:12,720
So I get Flint River water shipped
to me, and then I treat it the same
788
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,120
way that you would in
the water treatment process,
789
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,800
and you can see there's a colour
difference, even after treatment.
790
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,960
The trigger was Flint River water
with no corrosion inhibitor,
791
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:29,080
plus iron, which is a nutrient
that Legionella needs to grow.
792
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,680
Those little, tiny,
microscopic drops of water
793
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,560
can contain Legionella in it.
794
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,960
From Flint, you can see a
substantial amount more colonies.
795
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,120
Most of the time, what it's going
to manifest as is a pneumonia.
796
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,760
This pneumonia would not...
You would not be able to tell
797
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,600
what the bacteria was - it could
look like any other pneumonia -
798
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,440
cough, shortness of breath,
headache.
799
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,240
That's all I have, unless
there's any questions. Thank you.
800
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,480
Because the outbreak
was kept secret,
801
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,960
doctors misdiagnosed dozens
of cases as simple pneumonia.
802
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,680
They knew in March of 2015
803
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,920
that there were spikes
of Legionnaires' cases in Flint,
804
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,400
but they had never told anybody.
805
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,680
If they'd told us, you know,
we would have...
806
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,720
The doctors would have known to
check for that. But they didn't.
807
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,240
They just said they were going
to attribute it to a form
808
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:17,800
of pneumonia, and that, you know,
they were going to give me
809
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,400
some medication and, you know,
to go back in two weeks.
810
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,000
Nobody told the Flint residents.
It's just like the lead.
811
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,760
They didn't tell us about
that either, and other people
knew about that.
812
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,880
We're in a post-truth world,
and that's what this whole story
813
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,960
is about - is who betrayed whom.
814
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Everyone's betraying everyone -
who can you trust?
815
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,120
There's some folks telling
the truth, there's some folks lying,
816
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,160
and to me, this defines a dark age.
817
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,560
We live in a dark age.
818
00:49:55,720 --> 00:50:00,000
It's defined by not knowing
who you can trust in a society
819
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,840
that runs on trust.
820
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,800
No peace! No justice, no peace!
821
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,000
No justice, no peace!
822
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,920
No justice, no peace! No peace!
823
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,240
No peace!
824
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,640
With fear of the water mounting,
825
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,720
community leaders demand
all of Flint's pipes be replaced
826
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,000
and the governor be held to account.
827
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,760
We're sick, we're tired,
we're broke, we're fed up,
828
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,800
but at the end of this march,
we will all know,
829
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,000
we are not victims, we are fighters!
830
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,440
CHEERING
831
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,920
Never neglect me. Never neglect me!
832
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,840
This is a crime scene.
833
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,560
Somebody lied.
834
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,320
Somebody covered it up.
835
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,640
CHANTING
836
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,600
Flint lives matter!
837
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,480
What do we want? Fresh water!
When do we want it? Now!
838
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,880
What do we want? Fresh water!
When do we want it? Now!
839
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,840
Save our water!
Arrest Governor Snyder!
840
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Clean water for me! Poison for you!
841
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,400
Snyder's got to go!
842
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,280
Save our water!
Arrest Governor Snyder!
843
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,680
CHEERING AND SHOUTING
844
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,920
Here we are in Flint, Michigan.
845
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,880
Sunrise, 2016,
846
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,720
and our Water Defense mission
today is to get
847
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:45,840
baseline Flint River readings
848
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,920
for the full gamut of potential
chemicals of concern
849
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,600
from not just lead,
but all dangerous heavy metals.
850
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,280
So, here we go.
851
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,920
Scott Smith from the activist group
Water Defense
852
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,520
arrives in town
to do additional testing.
853
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,960
We're going to let this sit
in the water for 30 minutes.
854
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,560
He raises the possibility
of new dangers from the water.
855
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,880
It looks like it's shallow here,
maybe four feet from that, so...
856
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,240
..hopefully the anchor's catching
some sediment on the bottom.
857
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,640
Got the hiccups?
858
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,040
There's the agenda for today.
859
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,440
We have refreshments,
coffee and bagels over there.
860
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,840
Yes.
861
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:59,200
NBC wants to do a quick interview
with me before we get going,
862
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,880
so we'll say no more than
ten minutes.
863
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,320
When do you guys have to leave?
864
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
I think you should capture
the community,
865
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,560
and there's going to be a lot
of intense discussion here.
866
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,000
All right. If you just say
your name for me, please.
867
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,640
Scott Smith, chief technology
officer and investigator
868
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,320
for Water Defense.
869
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,760
And the particulate lead
that the agency has admitted
870
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,960
is a problem, when that comes
in a shower, that can aerosolize
871
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,760
and go into the air.
872
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,280
And some of these symptoms,
the rashes,
873
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,080
and what people are describing,
874
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,840
can come from inhaling
particulate lead.
875
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,960
We need to really focus
on the showers
876
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,440
and what people are inhaling.
877
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,880
And we plan to launch
air testing in bathrooms tomorrow,
878
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,520
which has not been done.
879
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,000
So, Scott is with Water Defense.
880
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,600
Scott comes at this
not as a novice -
881
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,600
he's done this kind of work
882
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,600
all over the country... Good!
883
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,320
..and has done some
international work.
884
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,240
He has a Master's degree
from Harvard.
885
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,040
So, Scott, you got the floor.
886
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,000
APPLAUSE
887
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,360
I decided not to do
a PowerPoint, because I want
888
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:03,960
this to be a dialogue
with questions.
889
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Our goal is to arm this community
890
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,840
with your ability to do your own
testing, and you can be the judge.
891
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,280
Thank you.
892
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,680
Before we open up - Albert Einstein,
I keep saying this
893
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,040
over and over again.
894
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,560
He said, 90% of solving
a problem is diagnosing it.
895
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,760
Well, I think we know
there's a preponderance of people
896
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,920
getting sick
in bathtubs and showers.
897
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:26,720
I'll always tell you
what I don't know,
898
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:28,120
and I'll do everything in my power
899
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,400
to get the scientific data
to let you know.
900
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,480
Yes? I was wondering - lately,
my levels of lead have went up.
901
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,360
Most likely that's particulate lead
and I would like to meet with you,
902
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:38,880
and come test your house tomorrow.
903
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,600
I won't take showers now
because I'm horrified.
904
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,320
Was your lead tested in your home?
905
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,640
It was, and they've got me
on an anxiety pill now
906
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,880
because I'm on high blood pressure,
907
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,920
it's just enough
to make you just fall over.
908
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,680
I came out of the General Motors,
so I don't qualify for nothing.
909
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,960
But if I had money,
I would leave Flint!
910
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120
You know?
So where does that leave me?
911
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,320
You deserve the truth,
912
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,760
and you deserve immediate remedies
to help your health. Thank you.
913
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,040
What you don't deserve is being told
this is not coming from bathwater,
914
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,880
shower, water and... Right.
915
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,240
Thank you.
916
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,920
So this... This is what ran today.
917
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,400
"Group fears bathing risks
in Flint water."
918
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,480
And that is from Water Defense.
919
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,840
This is my 62nd disaster since BP.
920
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,040
There is no other disaster that
even remotely compares to this,
921
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,240
due to the complexity
and all the variables.
922
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:30,600
The real crisis is just beginning,
923
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,480
especially if you're a Flint
resident that has lung cancer,
924
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,640
Legionnaires' disease, a child,
925
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:40,000
an elderly person that now has
serious, serious issues with lead.
926
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,360
What's your name? Jaylin.
927
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,640
My son takes a bath.
No problem with him,
928
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,840
so, I don't know if it's different
strokes for different folks, but...
929
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,480
Have you ever had rashes from
showers before in your life?
930
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:57,720
No.
931
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,960
When they tested the tub, was it
cold water, warm water, a mix? Cold.
932
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,880
You don't take a shower
in cold water. Right.
933
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,880
The state has taken a sample
of cold water... Cold water.
934
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,840
But I just have
to look at the camera
935
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,360
because it's hard to believe
what I'm hearing here.
936
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,480
Excuse my mess. It's OK.
937
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,600
You went fishing?
938
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,320
Well, I'm actually fishing
for contamination,
939
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,040
to see what's making
your mother's rashes,
940
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,440
and sister's hair fall out,
all that fun stuff.
941
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,960
This is the first air test
we have done in Flint.
942
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,120
Wow.
943
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
I'm going to do actual air testing,
and that air test will mimic
944
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,960
what you're breathing
into your lungs and inhaling.
945
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,480
I have never tested anything
in Flint.
946
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,720
No water.
947
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:48,680
I've done lead paint in houses,
but not this.
948
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,560
Here, we're looking for lead,
possibly, and organics in the air.
949
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,920
Every time I get in the water,
I break out.
950
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,920
I keep telling my doctor, they keep
saying it's an allergic reaction
or something.
951
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,120
And I'm like, yes, the water.
This is the Water Defense
water bug.
952
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,320
We're going to put this so it's
exposed to the water for 30 minutes.
953
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120
OK. Instead of putting my skin
there for 30 minutes,
954
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,120
and then just slicing off my skin
and sending it to the lab... Right.
955
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,520
..I'm going to use this,
956
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,680
and then we're going to measure
the actual air.
957
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,480
Water Defense bathroom shower
air testing under way.
958
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,040
Flint water crisis.
959
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,320
I just appreciate it, because
I really don't trust the EPA,
960
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,520
DEQ, I don't trust none of them.
961
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:32,720
They just made it hard to trust
anyone in Flint, for me.
962
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:35,920
We're good.
963
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,960
What happens next is we write up
the chain of custody,
964
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,840
I send the cooler off,
965
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,160
and I'll have those results
in three to five days.
966
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,880
Do you want to hold...
967
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,160
OK, you have to talk through
the little... Oh.
968
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,120
I got a good one.
969
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,840
"As for owing me, I will take
what I need from the state
970
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,040
"and give you nothing but
piss and vinegar for taxes."
971
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,720
Piss and vinegar!
972
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,640
When I sat down with Marc Edwards,
973
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,160
he kept saying that filtered tap
water was as good, if not better
974
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,840
than bottled water. Oh, my God!
975
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:41,520
So we sat down and had dinner and we
got into a huge screaming match,
976
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,360
because I said,
"Please don't do this.
977
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,440
"Why don't you come out door to door
and talk to the people
978
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,760
"who are sick and dying,
and it ain't from lead?"
979
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,960
He told me, "Stop mooching
off the government.
980
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,760
"You guys need to learn
to get used to what you've got."
981
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,160
And... Who? Edwards!
He's a libertarian, honey.
982
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,000
So that's. I mean, he's not...
Really?! Yes. Marc Edwards? Yes.
983
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,280
So they all seem like
there's not any...
984
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,480
To the dismay of many in Flint,
Professor Marc Edwards
985
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,360
has become a close adviser
to Governor Snyder.
986
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,000
So it might be it's a little bit
better, or it might be not.
987
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,920
You know, we'll have to see, right?
988
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,280
And if the second draw is better,
989
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,360
you know, that's still
very good news.
990
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,760
Edwards is advising the governor
there is a cheaper alternative
991
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,880
to replacing all of Flint's pipes.
992
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,480
By adding phosphate to the water,
993
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,600
a protective layer
will form on damaged pipes,
994
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,040
reducing the chance
lead particles will dislodge.
995
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,680
What I'm doing is following
the protocol
996
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,360
we're getting from the experts,
including Professor Edwards.
997
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,920
There's no specific date
that we'll say the water is safe
998
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,520
to turn back on - that will only be
based on scientific evidence
999
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,400
validated by third parties.
1000
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,360
So, Governor Snyder, a lot of people
in Flint, as you know,
1001
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:54,880
say he should be in jail.
1002
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,880
So if anyone in Flint,
frankly, feels like
1003
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,640
this was done to them because
1004
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,640
Governor Snyder wanted
to save a few dollars,
1005
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,200
I can't fault that.
1006
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,080
I mean, if I had been in
their shoes, I would probably
1007
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,640
believe the same thing.
1008
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800
But the victims of Flint will say
all they've received
1009
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,200
is a few bottles of water.
1010
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,920
Well, a few million bottles
of water.
1011
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,440
But again, let's put this
in perspective.
1012
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,760
You know, there's no magic pot
of money that is going to appear.
1013
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,000
That is why I've defended
the hard decisions
1014
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,280
that the governor's had to make.
1015
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,440
We want to represent your concerns,
your care, your injuries...
1016
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,760
'If there is to be
a cheque given out,
1017
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,400
'it will come through the lawsuit,
1018
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,920
'because in this country,
as you know, the way many people'
1019
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,360
say sorry is through the legal
system, for right or wrong.
1020
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,600
I can imagine Melissa, listening
to what you've just said
1021
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,280
and commenting that you've
turned against the residents,
1022
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,240
that you're now own
Governor Snyder's side.
1023
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,600
I would tell her you've got
to take the good with the bad.
1024
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,080
This is who I am.
1025
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,600
And I'm sorry you don't
like what I'm saying,
1026
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,400
but it's the truth as I see it.
1027
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,000
This is The Daily Show
with Trevor Noah.
1028
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,600
We welcome Marc Edwards.
1029
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,160
Welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me.
1030
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,240
You were one of the people
who helped uncover the problems
1031
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,200
in Flint, and then you were asked
to help with the problem afterwards,
1032
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,800
which is a strange thing.
1033
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,840
But what can be done to help
at this stage?
1034
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,320
In Flint, Michigan, it's now become
the best monitored
1035
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,800
and one of the best run systems
in the country.
1036
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,920
And so, as a result, the water
is comparable now to other cities
1037
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,440
in the United States.
1038
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,560
Well, this is from the EPA.
1039
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,240
Everyone can wash your hands, bathe
and shower with unfiltered water.
1040
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:56,360
They're saying lead and copper
won't affect you in the bath,
1041
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,920
but I'm hearing otherwise now.
1042
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,600
Plus the other chemicals
that are in the water.
1043
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,560
Direct contradiction.
1044
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Let's go.
1045
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,680
I'm after particulate lead
going into the air.
1046
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,520
Will you get that from cold water?
1047
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,080
We don't know. We might.
1048
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,520
Flint water crisis 2016.
1049
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,680
Water Defense, air testing
Harold Harrington home
1050
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,280
to see what chemicals are being
inhaled directly into the lungs.
1051
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,760
It's scary. I mean, when they make
it impossible for you to understand
1052
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,400
what's happened to you, they also
make it impossible for you
1053
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,400
to do anything to help yourself.
1054
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,360
Thanks. Thank you.
1055
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,440
Good morning, everybody.
1056
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,840
Morning.
1057
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,600
I'm Harold Harrington.
1058
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,880
I'm not going to rest
until there's safe drinking water
1059
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,360
for everybody in Flint,
1060
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,000
but I think we need the testing
from Water Defense
1061
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,480
and Mark Ruffalo,
Scott Smith to verify that,
1062
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,320
because I'm not sure now,
with what I know is in my water,
1063
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,320
that the only thing wrong
with this water is lead and copper.
1064
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,160
I'm not going to get fooled again.
Thank you.
1065
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,400
APPLAUSE
1066
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,880
Harold Harrington and his wife
1067
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,960
are bathing in
900 parts per billion
1068
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,160
1,4-Dichlorobenzene.
1069
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,520
These levels are unacceptable.
1070
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,760
These chemicals, believe it or not,
1071
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,960
chloroform goes through your skin,
1072
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,640
they're more dangerous
than bathing in lead. Yes?
1073
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,640
So, just to be clear, people in
Flint have been told don't drink it,
1074
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,520
don't forget it's not filtered,
etc, but it's OK to bathe in it.
1075
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,640
You again are saying that is not OK.
1076
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,920
It's absolutely
incomprehensible to me
1077
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,400
how anybody with any responsibility
could make any kind of statement
1078
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,920
that this water is safe to bathe
and shower in.
1079
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,840
Hi, I'm Mark Ruffalo.
1080
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,240
HE SIGHS
1081
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,160
Now, what's happened here
is a crisis of credibility
1082
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,040
from the government.
1083
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,960
It's no different
than the negligence that happened
1084
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:45,080
in Louisiana, Katrina,
when certain government officials
1085
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,040
decided that it was better
not to fix the dykes,
1086
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,320
and those dykes failed,
1087
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,360
and those people's lives
were impacted negatively.
1088
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:57,520
The fact that we have to go back
to a Congress that everyone knows
1089
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,080
won't do a damn thing,
and beg them for money
1090
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,400
so our mothers can take care
of their children, is an outrage.
1091
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,640
Water Defense is here.
We're doing testing.
1092
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,320
You only find in water
what you look for.
1093
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,440
You've got a lot more contaminants
in this water
1094
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,960
than what you're being told about.
1095
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,640
You've got to keep fighting, I'm
telling you. You've got to fight.
1096
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,320
That's the only way to make change.
Thank you.
1097
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,680
I'm part of a long legacy
of actors and artists
1098
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,040
who become socially aware,
socially conscious,
1099
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,800
and push for social justice,
1100
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,080
going all the way back to Jesus.
1101
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,680
I'm feeling good after
that press conference.
1102
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,440
We're now looking at
around a 1:10pm arrival.
1103
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,920
So, Mark, how did you become
interested in this situation
1104
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,560
in Flint in the first place?
1105
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,040
Well, I've been doing a lot
of work in the water space
1106
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,720
for the past five years.
1107
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,160
I started a group called
waterdefense.org -
1108
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,920
we weren't getting a clear picture
1109
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,840
of what was happening
with our water.
1110
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,400
And what we came across is really
elevated levels of chloroform.
1111
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,240
If people are bathing in this, it
seeps into the skin very easily.
1112
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,200
It's been known to be cancerous.
1113
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,160
Bathing in the water
should not be done.
1114
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,080
All right, everyone.
We're here at UA Local 370,
1115
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,400
the Plumbers and Pipefitters Union,
1116
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,400
and we are ready to deboard the bus.
Come on down.
1117
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:32,880
State health experts and the EPA
1118
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,440
say current scientific evidence
shows it's safe
1119
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,880
for adults and children to shower
or bathe in the water in Flint,
1120
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,600
but an outside group
conducting its own testing
1121
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,520
says their results show otherwise.
1122
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,560
Bathing in chloroform is
much more dangerous than lead
1123
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,560
because it goes through your skin,
it goes in the air,
1124
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:48,880
you breathe them into your lungs.
1125
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,040
Yes!
1126
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,200
I going to see the President today.
1127
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,480
You got to get dressed. You can't
wear what you got on, buddy!
1128
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,880
I know!
1129
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,880
Oh, a rabbit! A rabbit!
1130
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,200
I'll just take it off.
1131
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,200
Hopefully, I get to speak with him
so I can let him know
1132
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,080
how I feel about Governor Snyder.
1133
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:38,360
Flint lives matter! Flint lives
matter! Flint lives matter!
1134
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,240
SHOUTING AND CHEERING
1135
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:42,600
Hello, Flint!
1136
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:49,280
I will not rest, and I'm going
to make sure that the leaders
1137
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,600
at every level of government don't
rest, until every drop of water
1138
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:57,280
that flows to your homes is safe
to drink and safe to cook with,
1139
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,440
and safe to bathe in,
1140
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,360
because that's part of the basic
responsibilities of a government
1141
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,080
in the United States of America.
1142
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,200
This myth that government
is always the enemy,
1143
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,920
you know, that attitude
is as corrosive to our democracy
1144
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,960
as the stuff that resulted
in lead in your water.
1145
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,240
We especially under-invest when the
communities that are put at risk
1146
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,160
are poor, or don't have
a lot of political clout...
1147
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,640
..and so are not as often heard
in the corridors of power.
1148
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,200
Despite President Obama's visit,
1149
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,200
it will be almost a year before
the White House and Congress agree
1150
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,480
on a relief package for Flint.
1151
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,200
It is insufficient to replace
all the lead pipes in Flint,
1152
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,680
and does little to address
the future problems
1153
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,120
of a generation of children
with lead poisoning.
1154
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,720
Remember last week?
1155
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:02,880
Remember?
1156
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,480
'Say hi! We're going to go see
the President!
1157
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:08,680
'Yay!'
1158
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,080
That was during the round table
before it started.
1159
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,160
I told him I was
three months older than him
1160
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,040
and that's where
he started laughing.
1161
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,160
He told me I look
pretty good for my age.
1162
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,840
That was one of the lighter moments.
1163
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:27,120
I was actually fortunate enough,
I got to sit right beside him.
1164
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,200
He had a toast with the residents
with Flint water,
1165
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,080
but I declined to drink the toast
with the filtered water.
1166
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:37,000
I was pushing to get federal money
in here to fix the problem,
1167
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,120
not drink filtered water
1168
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,360
and make it seem
like everything's OK.
1169
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,400
I'm all right. I'm going to get
a glass of water right in.
1170
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,760
CROWD CLAMOUR
1171
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,760
It'll be filtered. Hold on.
1172
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,800
I'm going to talk about that in
a second. Settle down, everybody.
1173
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,840
President Obama visited,
and then after that,
1174
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,360
I kind of pulled myself back away
from politics
1175
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,160
because I was just
disgusted by everything.
1176
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,160
And I just felt that we're on
the ground, we're by ourselves.
1177
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,680
There we go.
1178
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,800
One of the things that made me feel
like a rock dropped in my stomach
1179
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,840
was when I seen him
take a sip of water.
1180
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,400
I really did need a glass of water.
This is not a stunt.
1181
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,960
Now, I'm going to talk about this,
everybody settle down.
1182
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,240
This is a feisty crowd!
1183
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,080
What the fuck?
1184
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,000
Yeah, I was there. He took a sip.
1185
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,560
Go bathe.
1186
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,880
I bet Obama didn't stay here
1187
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,840
for two weeks and take a shower
every day.
1188
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,160
Man, you too? I saw that on TV,
and I just like, man,
1189
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,600
it just kind of messed up
my whole perspective of the world,
1190
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,800
because I'm thinking, we there, you
know, we got one in the White House.
1191
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,040
People are dying.
You know what I'm saying?
1192
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,880
End of the day, people are dying.
1193
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,640
I've had some health scares myself,
stem back to the water.
1194
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320
I normally come back a lot
during Black History Month
1195
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,480
to go to schools and stuff,
1196
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:04,920
because I didn't make an
announcement that I was moving.
1197
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,760
Mama Sol has moved away from Flint
because of health concerns
1198
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,600
for herself and her son.
1199
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,960
I miss Flint a lot.
1200
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,480
I don't miss the weather.
1201
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:15,240
But I miss Flint.
1202
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:20,160
I enjoy working and bringing hope
to my people here at home.
1203
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,880
Everything hip-hop should be
is in your music,
1204
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,080
and now you've come up with some
new stuff!
1205
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,520
A new single that I released today.
1206
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,960
I'm really excited about
this single.
1207
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,800
It's just an inspiring song.
1208
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,120
You know,
reminding the kids of Flint,
1209
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,240
don't give up your crown,
don't give up your throne.
1210
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:43,160
You know, it might get rough,
it might seem dark, but don't quit.
1211
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,240
# I'm from where
there's lead in the water... #
1212
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,920
SHE SINGS ALONG TO HER SONG
1213
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,640
# Oh, you suppose
we should sell our souls...#
1214
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,000
INDISTINCT LYRICS
1215
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:02,960
# You don't see
what's happening here, bro?
1216
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,120
# Don't give up your crown
1217
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,600
# Don't give up your throne, king
1218
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,520
# Cos our time is now
1219
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,160
# Let it be known, queen... #
1220
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,880
THEY GREET EACH OTHER
1221
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,280
So good to see you all, man!
1222
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,440
Whoa! Look at Willow!
1223
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,480
It's still emotional for me,
coming back home.
1224
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:28,760
I got to do a quick sound check
so y'all can sit down.
1225
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Another strong woman from Flint!
1226
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,040
CHEERING
1227
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,800
What's up, Flint?
1228
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,400
Huh?
1229
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,600
# The darker the night,
the brighter the star
1230
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,360
# The heart of the fight,
the stronger we are... #
1231
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:55,160
# Why do people keep on dying...? #
1232
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,520
Look, Flint.
1233
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,120
I love you all so much, man.
1234
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,840
I really worry about people here.
1235
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,360
Because it's not on the news
any more.
1236
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,400
That's the thing
that scares me the most.
1237
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,680
You know?
1238
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,000
People kind of act like it's OK now
1239
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,160
because they saw
a few pipes be replaced
1240
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,200
between the sidewalk and the street.
1241
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,760
Scary.
1242
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,080
So right now, we're writing up
the chain of custody
1243
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,120
for these samples, all the different
samples I've taken for the day,
1244
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,680
and the official chain of custody,
1245
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,400
and then I'm going to show you
how we seal this up with ice,
1246
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,880
package it properly.
1247
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,000
This is what I do meticulously,
1248
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,840
to build this, and the chain of
custody and this documentation
1249
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,800
is key to supporting the community
in any court actions.
1250
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,560
This certified lab I use
is really where the science is.
1251
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,040
What about people who say,
"You don't have a scientific
qualification"?
1252
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,160
That's my favourite question.
1253
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,720
I... I work with
a lot of scientists,
1254
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,320
and a scientist is one
who accumulates knowledge
1255
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,840
in a systematic way.
1256
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,360
I would argue that the false
narratives from the state,
1257
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,280
who are paying the other
"PhD scientists"
1258
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,160
are being told their narratives,
1259
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,640
so they're not really accumulating
knowledge in a systematic way -
1260
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,160
that questions whether or not
they're scientists.
1261
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,560
And, second of all, I have six...
1262
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:48,800
I'm a named inventor on six patents
and 14 patents pending.
1263
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,280
Now, a lot of the PhDs
I work with, they will say,
1264
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,240
"Well, wow, that really
makes you a scientist, Scott.
1265
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,720
"We don't have patents to our name."
1266
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,400
If you just press
the space bar there.
1267
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,320
'This is the Water Defense
water bug
1268
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,480
'and it mimics the way...
You see? Those were instant.
1269
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:19,840
'This is going to be the first
air sample we've ever taken
1270
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,360
'during the Flint water crisis.
1271
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,200
'I just appreciate it,
1272
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,120
'cos I really don't trust the EPA,
the DEQ, I don't trust none of them.
1273
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,320
'This was exposed to the water
for 30 minutes. OK.
1274
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,680
'It's like my skin there
for 30 minutes,
1275
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,320
'and instead of sending
my skin to the lab...'
1276
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,360
To me, the clip you just played
really shows
1277
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:43,240
what a new dark age looks like,
when science becomes untrustworthy
1278
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,440
and we lose the support
of the public,
1279
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:51,200
and we're back to an air of
pseudoscience and mythology and...
1280
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:52,920
..untruth.
1281
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,240
I haven't seen a water heater
with a screwdriver thing, so...
1282
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,000
..this could get real interesting.
1283
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,840
OK.
1284
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,800
That's hot!
1285
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,000
Yeah, it's really hot.
1286
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,480
Oh, shit.
1287
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,600
Watch you don't get your pants wet.
1288
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,120
Would you hold this for me,
if you don't mind? Yeah.
1289
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,520
If you could slow down that video
I just saw,
1290
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,840
the sample from the bottom
of the water heater.
1291
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,640
What you will see
is a metallic hose bit there,
1292
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:29,920
which is the point
of sample collection,
1293
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,920
and these are notorious
for having very high lead in them,
1294
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,760
because they are not designed
to dispense water
1295
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,800
fit for human consumption.
1296
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,480
The other incredible mistake
he's made
1297
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,800
is you might have seen the water
shoot out of the bottle,
1298
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,160
go up and hit the hose bib,
1299
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,680
allowing the water to collect dust
from outside the hose bib,
1300
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,760
which then falls back
into the bottle again.
1301
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,280
Take no showers and no baths.
1302
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,400
It's got to be coming
from the hot water. OK.
1303
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:04,720
These people in Flint have been
exploited on so many levels.
1304
01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,240
And who's paying the price for this?
1305
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,000
It's these kids.
1306
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,280
We've had so many
different diagnoses,
1307
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,440
but those spots
turned into white spots.
1308
01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:34,600
Wow. What did the doctor say?
1309
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:37,440
The first diagnosis,
a fungus infection.
1310
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,600
Then it was athlete's foot.
1311
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,320
Then it was a bacterial infection.
1312
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,000
Don't disturb him.
The pictures say it all.
1313
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,840
My brother, Demetrius,
he can't think that good.
1314
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,680
Now he has to go through life...
1315
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,040
You have to keep moving on.
1316
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,840
Mike, that's a little bit different
than what you had in the first
shower, right? Yeah.
1317
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,320
Well, I got that blue pump on -
the other one went down,
1318
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,560
I think I got too much moisture.
1319
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,360
As soon as I get the results,
you'll get an email. Thank you.
1320
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,240
You'll get them within minutes
of me having them, no matter what.
1321
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:20,320
Appreciate it. OK, good luck with
everything. All right. Thank you.
1322
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,880
You have the EPA
and you have Mr Smith.
1323
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,240
The EPA has let us down
so many times,
1324
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,960
and they keep coming up
with different figures,
1325
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,440
different numbers.
1326
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:33,800
So, you know, we're not...
We don't trust it.
1327
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,200
I'll take the numbers that
Mr Smith has and I'll run with it.
1328
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,920
And so, this is the pump -
the hose that the pump goes on.
1329
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,560
I'll just hang the shower hose
up here.
1330
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,040
Once you get in there, you want
to make sure that you're doing it
1331
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:52,800
with your best foot...
1332
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,480
..and the water comes right out.
1333
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:03,880
And the more you pump it,
the more pressure builds in it.
1334
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,960
I tell my boys I'm going
to extend a longer hose,
1335
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,080
so someone can be out here pumping.
1336
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,160
That's too much to go through.
1337
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,680
I'd rather take a chance on this
1338
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,120
than take the tap water.
1339
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,240
I say two to three hours,
everybody is done showering.
1340
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:27,160
You know, considering we have
to put water on the stove
1341
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,440
to heat them up, so...
1342
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,520
About three hours max.
1343
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,760
Three to four. Three to four.
1344
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,440
Yes, may I have a bacon, egg
and cheese biscuit sandwich,
1345
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,400
substitute egg white
and white cheddar? Sure.
1346
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,640
And may I have a large
Diet Coke, please?
1347
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,360
OK, did you want the meal or just
the biscuit? Just the biscuit.
1348
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:49,800
Thank you.
1349
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,640
They're just digging in
like a tick on a dog.
1350
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,200
I've never seen anything like it.
1351
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,520
I'm more used to battling
government agencies.
1352
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,440
I get angry when people
are being victimised,
1353
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:07,680
and I feel part of my job
is to defend the public welfare.
1354
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,240
There's a conflict of interest here
that isn't being discussed.
1355
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,160
'At Opflex Environmental
Technologies, we are excited
about our future.'
1356
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,480
This is an Opflex environmental
indicator, where we can
1357
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,000
fingerprint exactly what the oil is,
1358
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,640
and we are going to take this to
a lab and have it fingerprinted
1359
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:34,360
to find out what the contamination
is, specifically.
1360
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,640
We had tried to push this product
for oil spill clean-ups,
1361
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,560
and frankly,
it didn't work very well.
1362
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,320
A cruise ship has olive oil,
has lubricant oil,
1363
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,200
even if the bunker oil doesn't leak.
1364
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,480
And this is what we did
in the Gulf of Mexico.
1365
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:50,880
Clear water is being repelled,
dripping out,
1366
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,200
and there you have your olive oil.
1367
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,600
So, you know, when his sponge
business didn't work out,
1368
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,960
the logical extension was
to take that product and start
1369
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,120
throwing it in
the bathtubs and showers.
1370
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,640
So, here we go.
1371
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:07,320
He's using Flint as his test field,
1372
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:12,280
and came into Flint after
the water disaster was declared...
1373
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,760
..and circumvent normal product
development and safety testing
1374
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,600
and proving that the product works
1375
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,800
and just trying to sell it
to people.
1376
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,120
We're going to take
four tentacles from the top.
1377
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,280
So we've started monitoring,
documenting
1378
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,280
all these false health claims,
1379
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,800
and all the inept and illegal
sampling that they're doing,
1380
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,640
and trying to get the message out
that these folks are dangerous.
1381
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,720
You're going to tell us,
no matter what they say.
1382
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:44,200
The fact they're exploiting
residents in Flint, their fears...
1383
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,200
We will. Good luck with everything.
1384
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,840
..just sickening.
1385
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,480
We'll be downstairs, and then we'll
just catch you when you come in.
1386
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,520
Yep, I'm going to bring some
stuff in and then, of course,
1387
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,480
we can get the water unloaded
and take it downstairs to you.
1388
01:21:57,480 --> 01:21:58,920
Perfect. I'll see you in a minute.
1389
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,640
Of course, those water tests
are thousands of dollars,
1390
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,520
and we're just happy that
Water Defense,
1391
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,880
we're lucky enough that
Water Defense paid for it,
1392
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,640
and I had a stack of paper,
actually, and handed to my doctor,
1393
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,840
who looked at it and went,
"Oh, my God."
1394
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,520
And welcome to
the Seventh Ward community meeting.
1395
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,080
Did you guys sign in?
1396
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,680
I don't want to limit discussion
because...
1397
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,680
I can't do Wednesday night
or Thursday night
1398
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,080
because I'm going to go testify
in front of Congress.
1399
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,120
It was so bad.
1400
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,520
I'm sure it did.
1401
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,440
But he's losing his shit.
1402
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,080
Thursday, the 16th. Good.
I'm leaving Wednesday night.
1403
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,800
Good, OK.
1404
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,080
Two years after
the water crisis began,
1405
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,360
residents continued to pin
their hopes on the legal system
1406
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,040
to get compensation.
1407
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,400
It's a very sombre feeling
because the legal system
1408
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,520
is a very slow moving system,
1409
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:17,760
and, you know,
we have community meetings
1410
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,280
to keep our clients
informed and updated,
1411
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,960
and a lot of times, we have to tell
them we're still in the midst
1412
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,040
of answering motions
and responding to motions
1413
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,720
to dismiss that the defendants
have filed.
1414
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,600
And it's what we believe
is just a delay tactic.
1415
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,200
I received paperwork
from the class action
1416
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,320
and I have a question
before I sign it.
1417
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,400
I had a miscarriage
throughout this crisis,
1418
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,080
and lost twins, and they gave
me a blood transfusion.
1419
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,880
I believe that the lead was
the cause of my miscarriage.
1420
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,160
We need you to bring
your medical records so that
1421
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,320
we can have an expert
evaluate to see.
1422
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:50,720
Have you had any other children?
1423
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,160
My son is seven. He's been kicked
out of school 56 times.
1424
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:55,640
56 times.
1425
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,240
56 times this year.
1426
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,600
And he needs special education
services now.
1427
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,400
He has nightmares. He sleepwalks.
1428
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,000
And it's like they knowingly knew
that that water was poisoned,
1429
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,440
and let us drink it.
1430
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,080
APPLAUSE
1431
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,720
As of today's date, they have not
done anywhere what they need to do.
1432
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,240
They have not dug up these pipes.
1433
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,280
They have not provided us
safe drinking water.
1434
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,760
And we don't believe the water
you're bathing in is safe.
1435
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,120
No, it's not.
1436
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,120
Tonight, you're going to hear
from some experts,
1437
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,000
who are going to provide you
with information
1438
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,640
that you need to decide
for yourself.
1439
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,080
Towards the middle -
the gentleman at the back?
1440
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,120
The government immunity -
how can this guy say
1441
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,720
that just because
they're the government,
1442
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:44,760
they're not liable for killing us?
1443
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,760
Yes!
1444
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,160
I've been so sick, but, you know,
I have to get her from school.
1445
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,320
I have no option. That's the way
we have to do it right now.
1446
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,440
And here's Michigan School
for the Deaf to the left.
1447
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,640
It's a state-run school.
1448
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,400
I sit here usually,
and wait till they come out.
1449
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,800
It's almost like
we've been displaced,
1450
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,880
not only from our home,
but from our lives, you know?
1451
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,800
It's like everything's stopped...
1452
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,800
..until this problem's over with,
you know?
1453
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,640
I'm tired.
1454
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:58,320
Oh, there she is.
1455
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:11,200
Stop, you've got to watch...
Stay over here. I know.
1456
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,400
Don't! Don't get in my purse.
You want to be grounded?
1457
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:22,840
A whole month!
1458
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,640
Get my purse, you get grounded.
A month.
1459
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,520
SHE SHRIEKS
1460
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,920
I've seen that video with Scott
Smith talking about the bacteria,
1461
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,400
so I called Scott Smith up
and invited him over to my house
1462
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,800
to do some testing.
1463
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,520
I don't want you going in there
now because of what's going on.
1464
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:46,640
Taylor.
1465
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:49,800
I need my mask.
1466
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,640
I know you do, but that's
not going to happen today.
1467
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,560
Are you going to listen to me,
or do I have to stay out here?
1468
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,280
'I know the kids and everything...'
1469
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,840
Are you going to wait, and stay out
here, or do I have to wait?
1470
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:08,720
'..they can't, you know,
be exposed to it either.'
1471
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,160
I want you to stay in the car. You
don't have a mask to go inside. No.
1472
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,880
'I'm not going to take that chance.'
1473
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,440
Get in the car, now.
1474
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:18,320
Florlisa Fowler has now
abandoned her home,
1475
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,760
and is living in temporary
accommodation outside of town.
1476
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,560
It's not worth our lives,
but we want to come home.
1477
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,200
KNOCKING
1478
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,440
Please! Get back in the car.
1479
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,240
SHE PANTS
1480
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:36,360
I hate to go nuclear on people,
but when they refuse to listen
1481
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,840
to reason, or they're unscientific,
you have no choice, so...
1482
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,000
RADIO DJ ANNOUNCEMENT
1483
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,600
Joining me now, as promised,
is Dr Marc Edwards.
1484
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,920
Kids are getting hurt.
1485
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,800
Mothers have called me and said
they're afraid of letting their kids
1486
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,920
bathe or shower or wash their hands,
1487
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,080
scared off from normal hygiene
1488
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,280
by the claims
of these pseudoscientists.
1489
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,520
Edwards points to a recent spike
in gastrointestinal illnesses
1490
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,040
reported recently by the Genesee
County Health Department.
1491
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,720
Edwards says he has a problem
with how samples were collected.
1492
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,280
Right now, EPA across every American
city gathers its samples
1493
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,720
the same way, through one point
of distribution of cold water.
1494
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:20,360
Water Defense gathers its samples
from water heaters and hot showers.
1495
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,400
Are you prepared to accept
the liability and the consequences
1496
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,920
that your words will have -
1497
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,200
your false, irresponsible,
unscientific statements?
1498
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,000
You expose a Hollywood fraud,
1499
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,240
it turns out it's a little bit...
it's a little bit tricky,
1500
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:42,920
because people, again,
have this presumption of,
1501
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,320
"Oh, this is the good guy,"
1502
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,000
just like the government agencies
were good guys, supposedly,
1503
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,320
when they weren't.
1504
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,240
So you're talking about
Mark Ruffalo?
1505
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:52,320
Yeah. Mark Ruffalo.
This is his group.
1506
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,560
No-one would be listening
to Scott Smith
1507
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:57,800
and buying into his stupid
pseudoscience
1508
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,920
unless Mark Ruffalo was behind it.
1509
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:03,560
Mark Ruffalo's in the pictures
with these stupid sponges.
1510
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,760
Mark, it's a pleasure
to have you back.
1511
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,880
So, what is it that brought
the two of you together?
1512
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:12,200
Water Defense was looking
for some kind of testing method
1513
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,960
that was really thorough and subtle.
1514
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,080
And I saw him and I said, this guy
really knows what he's doing
1515
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:21,000
and he's got a disruptive
breakthrough technology.
1516
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,880
We have a platform
to introduce him to the world.
1517
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,040
And Scott was brought on
as our chief scientist.
1518
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,200
Mark Ruffalo is retweeting Scott's
messages about lead in homes
1519
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,280
that have no lead, in Flint.
1520
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,680
So in the end, you have to attack
the man behind the curtain.
1521
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,240
And I know nothing
about this person,
1522
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:48,640
except, of all the scientists
in the world that you could hire
1523
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,680
to expose water problems,
1524
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:54,800
why did you hire this
pseudoscientific fraud,
1525
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:58,320
who has no science degree,
and call him a chief scientist?
1526
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,040
It's beyond comprehension to me.
1527
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,240
What was your reaction when
there were some professors who
1528
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,440
took issue with some comments that
you'd made? Do you have a response?
1529
01:31:08,440 --> 01:31:09,680
I want to ask you directly.
1530
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,240
The important thing to remember is
those people are really sick there,
1531
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,760
and that we should focus on them,
1532
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,320
not... not people getting,
uh, feeling like...
1533
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,560
..the information coming out of
there, which is just test results,
1534
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,640
and that's the conversation
we should be having,
1535
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:33,920
not whether or not my
organisation is scientists,
1536
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,400
because we've admitted
we're citizen scientists, you know?
1537
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,200
And so all we're doing
is giving people information,
1538
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,680
and there's nothing wrong with that.
1539
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,320
The more information people have,
the better off they are.
1540
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:48,240
To say that giving information to
the people is somehow scaring them,
1541
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,400
that's not what I'm hearing
from the community.
1542
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:51,960
Ask the community, they'll tell you.
1543
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,800
I'm worried about chloroform.
I'm worried about acetone.
1544
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:56,960
I'm worried about all
these other chemicals
1545
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,560
they don't want to talk about.
1546
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,120
I've worked with
an independent water expert,
1547
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,680
and his name is Scott Smith.
1548
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,640
CHEERING
1549
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:08,360
Scott Smith, who's tested
our house a couple of times,
1550
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:12,000
says we have some of the highest
levels of chloroform in our house.
1551
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:16,280
Scott Smith has also tested
my water. I have 97 pages.
1552
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:22,000
This is everything
that is in my water,
1553
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,600
from lead, to other
heavy contaminants
1554
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,600
and bacterias.
1555
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,680
Carbon tetrachloride...
1556
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,040
Some of the stuff
I had to Google and look up
1557
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:36,000
because I don't even know how
to pronounce some of the stuff
that's in my water.
1558
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,200
They even got
volatile organic compounds,
1559
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,320
which I don't know what that means,
1560
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,240
but I'm glad I got the paperwork
on everything.
1561
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,240
Maybe they just want to be there
early. I don't know. They said 10am.
1562
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:09,000
Professor Edwards is back in Flint,
this time to testify in court.
1563
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,240
I mean, you can't make this shit up.
1564
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,880
This is like Bonfire of the
Vanities, 21st century version.
1565
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:21,440
And so, I'm the enemy.
I've been branded a traitor.
1566
01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:23,200
It's the scientist's curse.
1567
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,600
If you tell people the truth,
folks are going to get mad at you.
1568
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:32,120
Some of the residents, they welcomed
you as a hero back in August, 2015.
1569
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,600
And now they say, "Well, you're
appearing to defend the state."
1570
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,800
I've just been defending and
speaking the truth from the start,
1571
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,160
and when speaking the truth
was in their interest,
1572
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:45,160
of course,
that was when we were heroes.
1573
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,120
Unfortunately,
we're the ones saying the things
1574
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:49,520
that they don't want to hear now.
1575
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,880
The truth, the data,
1576
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,280
are showing that the water's
getting better,
1577
01:33:55,280 --> 01:34:00,080
and there's other groups claiming
the water's getting worse every day,
1578
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,200
that people are dying
from the water,
1579
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,680
that nothing that
this relief effort has done
1580
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,760
has made a difference at all.
1581
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,320
All rise, please.
1582
01:34:12,440 --> 01:34:16,280
Governor Snyder's top health
official, Dr Eden Wells,
1583
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,480
has been charged with
involuntary manslaughter
1584
01:34:19,480 --> 01:34:23,520
for allegedly covering up the
outbreak of Legionnaires' disease.
1585
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,320
Edwards is testifying
in her defence.
1586
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,040
Did you have any knowledge,
as we sit here today,
1587
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,560
that sputum samples that
the Michigan Department of Health
1588
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,440
and Human Services were destroyed
in March 2015?
1589
01:34:35,440 --> 01:34:36,560
No.
1590
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,120
Do you have any knowledge about
1591
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,640
how many sputum samples
they currently have?
1592
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,880
They sent us all the ones
they claimed to have.
1593
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,040
Well, "claim" is an ambiguous term.
Do you think they're lying to you?
1594
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,120
What do you think
about the cost of this case?
1595
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,760
It's cost millions of dollars
already, and who's paying for it?
1596
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:57,840
We are.
1597
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,440
We're paying for representing
against us.
1598
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:02,000
I don't understand that at all.
1599
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,960
How are we, the people of
the state of Michigan,
1600
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,600
being charged for a mistake
from the state of Michigan,
1601
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,520
or whoever caused this problem?
It's ridiculous.
1602
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,720
Over $30 million of public funds
have been spent,
1603
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,720
both prosecuting and defending
the government officials involved.
1604
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,800
Professor Edwards has now
started his own legal action.
1605
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:45,640
We're going to go in right now
on Virginia Tech's Marc Edwards.
1606
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:50,920
The same Marc Edwards that was
once hailed as environmental saviour
1607
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,240
of Flint, by revealing the folks
in Flint were being lied to
1608
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,240
about the quality of their water.
1609
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,200
And now Marc Edwards
is trying to silence
1610
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,760
the activist community in Flint
by filing litigation against them.
1611
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:09,400
We thought it was a joke.
1612
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,480
And then, when I sent it off
to an attorney,
1613
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,960
he said, "No, it's not",
he said, "but, wow!"
1614
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:21,760
A university professor is suing
a Flint resident for $3 million.
1615
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,480
It's horrible.
1616
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:29,520
I never in a million years thought
that what happened could happen.
1617
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:37,400
An anonymous letter was sent,
saying horrible things about me.
1618
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:44,240
There was a Flint resident
whose metadata was on the document.
1619
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,280
You're talking about Melissa Mays?
Melissa Mays.
1620
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,720
Why hit the litigation button?
1621
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,000
Did you have to go down that route?
1622
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:53,120
Yes.
1623
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:54,400
No, I had no choice.
1624
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,880
You've got to realise, this letter
was being used to destroy us.
1625
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,800
This letter was taken
to professional conferences,
1626
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:07,320
interrupting my students'
presentation,
1627
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,120
handed out to participants.
1628
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,280
"Virginia Tech is unethical."
1629
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,360
He personally told me, when we
first started working together,
1630
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,160
in July, August 2015, I was a hero,
1631
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:20,040
and I did the right thing by
speaking out and speaking the truth.
1632
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:22,360
Melissa was just incredible.
1633
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:25,960
She was always there,
front and centre. Truly heroic.
1634
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,880
I had never stopped doing that,
1635
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,080
and talking about
what it's like to live here,
1636
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,560
telling people this is
what we're going through.
1637
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,440
And now he's suing me for it.
1638
01:37:34,440 --> 01:37:38,000
I'm sad whenever anyone goes
post-truth.
1639
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:41,920
It's part of what contributes
to this horrific loss of trust
1640
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,800
that we're living with,
and not just in America,
1641
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,960
across the Western democracies.
1642
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,760
And people have
to be held accountable.
1643
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,400
What if we lose?
1644
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:53,760
We'll have nothing.
1645
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:54,960
We'll have no home.
1646
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,680
We will have... My kids...
1647
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,040
Six days after Melissa Mays
is sued by Marc Edwards,
1648
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,280
there is another unexpected twist.
1649
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,320
Scott Smith suddenly switches sides.
1650
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,200
He comes to Flint
to make a public apology.
1651
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,840
I imagine this is shocking for some
people, on the heels of a special
1652
01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:27,200
blog post, with some lessons
he learned in Flint
1653
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:28,840
and clarifying the facts.
1654
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,040
Scott Smith, special guest in studio
with us, set the record straight
1655
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,560
about certain aspects of his work.
1656
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,360
Obviously, you know,
made some mistakes.
1657
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:40,920
I'm fully accountable
for all the mistakes.
1658
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:44,960
That's why I did this. Never did I
ever intend to cause panic or fear.
1659
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,320
For those people that I caused
panic or fear, I deeply apologise.
1660
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,560
Obviously, I am not a water expert
scientist by any means whatsoever,
1661
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,280
but I do think out of the box.
1662
01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:00,120
Smith says his own research
in Flint was faulty
1663
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:04,160
and that the chemical levels he
found in Flint's water were normal,
1664
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:05,920
and not dangerous.
1665
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:10,120
He says Professor Edwards
was right all along.
1666
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,520
I don't think that there's any way
that I would believe a scientist
1667
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,120
saying that this Flint water
is safe.
1668
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,000
Water line right there.
More water, Mum!
1669
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,120
More water.
1670
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,280
Scott Smith says, "Look, I'm sorry
if I caused you distress."
1671
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:30,760
What do you feel
when you hear his apology?
1672
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,160
All of a sudden
his tone has changed around to,
1673
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,560
"Oh, I didn't do this right",
or whatever it may be.
1674
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:42,280
I really don't have any words
for Scott Smith, as of right now.
1675
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,440
Hey, Scott. Good morning.
Good to see you.
1676
01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:49,720
I'm so happy you're filming this.
You have no idea.
1677
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,760
There's national media interest
reaching out to me since all this.
1678
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:55,440
I declined everything because
I wanted it to happen in Flint,
1679
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,640
and nothing better with you.
1680
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:01,000
So, Scott,
give me your name and title.
1681
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:06,120
Scott C Smith. Formerly the chief
investigator for Water Defense.
1682
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,600
And what are you now, Scott?
1683
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,760
Now I am the owner, or CEO,
of Aquaflex Holdings LLC.
1684
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:13,320
So this is a bit of
an about-turn, because
1685
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,240
when I interviewed you
at the Hampton Inn,
1686
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,320
when you were bringing in samples,
I remember you saying to me,
1687
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,760
"This is the real lab.
This is where the science is done."
1688
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:25,760
Were you wrong? I was...
1689
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,440
..right and wrong,
1690
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:31,840
but I was entirely wrong
about Dr Edwards.
1691
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,800
But did you fear that you were going
to face legal action, unless...
1692
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,520
No, no. There's no arrangement.
1693
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:39,080
He was not threatening
to sue me at all.
1694
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,560
If anything, I was going...
I decided it's time to,
1695
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:43,200
in talking to my personal attorney,
1696
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:46,760
you know, the best retraction
or correction you can get.
1697
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,880
Admit where you made mistakes.
1698
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:53,040
But why didn't you correct
Mark Ruffalo at the time and say,
1699
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,040
"I'm not a chief scientist, I have
no scientific qualifications"?
1700
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:59,360
We changed that. I forget what year
we changed it. That was early on.
1701
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,960
I don't know what video...
There's so many videos out there.
1702
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:03,720
I'd have to look
at the right videos.
1703
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,280
At the time, Water Defense,
you know,
1704
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,040
that's what they wanted to call me.
1705
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:12,800
But the point is, is that people
saw you as a scientist.
1706
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:16,480
So when you came in and you did
those tests, they believed that...
1707
01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:19,320
You're asking a question
with your opinion.
1708
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,040
I'm not going to respond to that.
1709
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:24,720
But... You're telling me how people
viewed me, and that's hearsay.
1710
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:30,200
I'm not going to allow anybody
to spin this against me ever again.
1711
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,120
With all due respect.
You have an agenda here.
1712
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:35,080
I'm just repeating what
the residents have said to me.
1713
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,560
I never promoted myself
as an expert.
1714
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,680
I promoted it never, ever.
1715
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,000
So the water bug tests,
were they legitimate?
1716
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,720
Do you stand by those
as a way of determining
1717
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,360
whether people's water... What's
your definition of legitimate?
1718
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:53,880
The testing... Your definition of
legitimate, this is a gotcha moment.
1719
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,760
You know what? I volunteered
to do these interviews.
1720
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,680
Is this where we're going?
1721
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,960
Thank God I got that other camera.
1722
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,720
So you don't think that a water bug
picking up other stuff
1723
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,360
that's on the bottom of the bathtub,
there's any problem with that?
1724
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,360
I... You know, um...
1725
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,960
You'd... You have to do
a variety of tests.
1726
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,080
I mean, you know,
there possibly could be,
1727
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:15,360
it just... It was...
It was a research method
1728
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,320
at the time that we used,
you know, so...
1729
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,760
It was... It was to see what
the results would be, you know?
1730
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:26,240
Obviously, it's going to detect
the presence of other chemicals.
1731
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,960
And then when you take it,
you know, and we've changed that
1732
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,800
and we've adapted.
1733
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,720
So you're saying to me here,
on camera,
1734
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,560
that the water bug
is not a legitimate test?
1735
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,880
I'm not saying that at all.
Don't put words in my mouth,
1736
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,800
and watch out for defamation
if you say that.
1737
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:02,600
Here we are in Flint.
1738
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:10,040
So LeeAnne's house is pretty much
a ground zero for lead.
1739
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,600
Lead samples that came back
from her house in 2015
1740
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:17,040
were toxic waste levels of lead.
Shall we go in?
1741
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,760
Are they waiting for us in here?
1742
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:24,040
Higher. Yeah? Good!
1743
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:28,360
I guess the first thing that comes
to mind when I watched some of the
footage and saw some of your story,
1744
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,040
why are you still here?
1745
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:31,800
Because this is our community.
1746
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,840
My husband was born and raised here,
1747
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,920
and this is where
we've purchased our home.
1748
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,640
This is where our friends
and family are.
1749
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,800
I can tell you it takes me
20 gallons of bottled water,
1750
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,720
actual gallons, to bathe
my seven-year-olds, and we...
1751
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,800
You do that how?
You heat it up on the stove.
1752
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:50,880
You heat water in pots on a stove?
1753
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,280
Yes. And pour it into a bathtub.
Yes.
1754
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,160
This is a very interesting area.
1755
01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,360
Why is all this boarded up -
it's all abandoned?
1756
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,600
Florlisa can talk to you about this,
Alec. Her house was worth $60,000.
1757
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:07,600
It's now worth about $6,000.
1758
01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:14,840
How are you?
1759
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,320
You're still going to
Michigan School for the Deaf?
1760
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:21,960
Yes. Yeah? Great. Fantastic.
1761
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,800
We're going to talk to your mum. OK.
1762
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:25,560
You guys stay warm
and we'll be back.
1763
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:29,000
I saw a cut of the film
for you and your family.
1764
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,600
Your bills are over $600 a month?
1765
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,200
Mine was, this past month, $640.
1766
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:36,840
How much water are you using?
1767
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,440
The water is now shut off, because
we're not able to be in the house.
1768
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:42,200
And there's no way
you could sell your home.
1769
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,440
Who's going to buy a home
where you can't use the water?
1770
01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:46,360
Who's helping you? Nobody.
1771
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,280
This is your neighbour?
Yes, this is Mrs Evans.
1772
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:51,760
Mrs Evans is over here,
yelling at us.
1773
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:53,960
Is the coffee still there?
Don't you need it?
1774
01:44:55,120 --> 01:44:56,880
That's my son. He's deceased.
1775
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,240
What happened to him?
1776
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,200
Seven guys jumped on him
and beat him to death. Where?
1777
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:02,520
Here in Michigan?
1778
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,560
Yes, about two streets over.
1779
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:05,760
No!
1780
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,680
When did that happen? How long ago?
1781
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:08,760
'97. I'm so sorry.
1782
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:10,280
Did they catch them?
1783
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:11,360
No.
1784
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:21,280
So this is for Taylor.
What have they told you
1785
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,120
about the quality of water,
1786
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:26,400
and the filtration of the water
at your school?
1787
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,400
These chairs belonged
to my grandmother.
1788
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:37,880
My goodness.
1789
01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:41,520
You love your family, I can tell.
1790
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,760
You stayed. You're here.
Did you ever think about leaving?
1791
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,600
No. Never? I'm too old.
1792
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,480
You are? I'm 80 years old.
1793
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:51,840
You've lived in this house
for how long? Since 1963.
1794
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:53,680
So you raised your kids
in this house? Yes.
1795
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,920
We don't use this water.
Right. You know?
1796
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,480
They want to charge you for the
water, whether you use it or not.
1797
01:45:58,480 --> 01:46:00,080
We just want to come home.
1798
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,200
Are you the mayor?
1799
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:09,520
I am.
1800
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:12,320
So, their neighbour... Let me
just tell you this quick story.
1801
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,800
Their neighbour, Mrs Evans,
an African-American woman
1802
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,280
from Mississippi...
1803
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,240
Is she little? Yes!
1804
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:24,360
Zetan? I love her! She just had us
over her house for coffee and cake.
1805
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:26,440
Oh, wow! You know what?
She invited us in her house.
1806
01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:28,440
I am her granddaughter's godmother.
No!
1807
01:46:28,440 --> 01:46:29,800
Let me just ask you this.
1808
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,800
Do you think that they let happen
to Flint what happened
1809
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,840
because Flint is poor,
1810
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,400
or Flint is African-American,
1811
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,560
since all the white flight
after the jobs left, or both?
1812
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,080
I think it's both. You do.
1813
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,800
I think it's an issue of race
and it was an issue of class.
1814
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,120
I believe it's both of those factors
coming together.
1815
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:50,600
Because I do believe that, had this
been a different community,
1816
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,600
a more affluent community,
1817
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,080
if it did happen,
it sure would have gotten fixed.
1818
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,960
We wouldn't have had to go
a year and a half, you know,
1819
01:46:57,960 --> 01:46:59,840
holding up jugs of brown water,
1820
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:01,600
people complaining
about their hair,
1821
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,680
people complaining
about skin rashes,
1822
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,920
having people die of Legionnaires'.
1823
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:09,040
We didn't know this initially, but
then as the doctor started looking
1824
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,840
and researching, they said,
wow, the amount of miscarriages
1825
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,040
and stillbirths went up in the city
of Flint during that time.
1826
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:16,960
The cases of pneumonia went up.
1827
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,200
Were they really pneumonia, or were
they Legionnaires'? We don't know.
1828
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,800
And they're going to be finding
these kinds of things out.
1829
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,760
We have to look at what's
going on in the school system,
1830
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,720
as far as mental health
and the need for mental health,
1831
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:30,640
the juvenile justice system,
1832
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:32,040
special education.
1833
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,600
Will there be an increase
in foster care and adoption?
1834
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:37,120
For years,
people are going to be anxious.
1835
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,080
They're going to be scared.
1836
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:43,040
Demoralised. Yeah, exactly. Like
nobody cares. Like nobody cares.
1837
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:53,120
We need to go over the performance.
1838
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,240
This is what's going to happen.
1839
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:56,640
We're going to enter,
1840
01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:00,160
lay down very quietly.
1841
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,480
Nakia is going to give her speech,
1842
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:03,960
then Nakia's going to lay down.
1843
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,680
Get up and silently leave.
1844
01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:11,240
Think about our daughters,
think about our bodies,
1845
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:13,920
and really harness that emotion.
Yeah.
1846
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,360
Pull up to the gate.
1847
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:33,960
We are here today
1848
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,720
because mothers
and women across Flint
1849
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:38,040
have been harmed.
1850
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,800
This area is a crime scene.
1851
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:43,760
We have lost children.
1852
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:47,800
The true toll of the Flint water
disaster is still being tallied.
1853
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,280
Our futures have been harmed.
1854
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:53,760
Health officials have reported a 58%
increase in stillborn babies...
1855
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,800
This crisis has took both
of my newborn children.
1856
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:59,840
..and a spike in miscarriages.
1857
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:04,680
At least 200 fewer children
were born as a result.
1858
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:10,160
Scientists estimate that as many
as 50 people may have died
1859
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,120
from Legionnaires' disease
in Flint,
1860
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,320
making it the worst outbreak
in US history.
1861
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,680
Scratch the rough skin
on the baby elephant...
1862
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,320
According to the Michigan
Department of Education,
1863
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,080
reading scores in Flint
have fallen by 50%.
1864
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,000
Feel the fluffy, yellow duck.
1865
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,960
So we have formed a dynamic team.
1866
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:34,520
We have been very active
and on the move.
1867
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,280
We have already filed
multiple pieces of litigation...
1868
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:38,960
None of the class action cases
1869
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:42,600
have resulted in direct compensation
for the residents...
1870
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:46,760
..and no-one has gone to jail.
1871
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:49,520
'Bombshell breaking news
in the Flint water crisis.'
1872
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:50,920
Criminal charges dropped...
1873
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,160
..against eight current
and former officials.
1874
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,680
A move that wipes clean
involuntary manslaughter charges
1875
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:59,120
against key players in the crisis.
1876
01:50:00,560 --> 01:50:04,360
Marc Edwards had his lawsuit
against Melissa Mays dismissed.
1877
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:07,920
The judge ruled that
the accusations made about him
1878
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:11,160
are protected by the constitutional
right to free speech.
1879
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,960
Governor Snyder, we've been asking
for an interview with your office
1880
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,600
for this film that we're making
and we've been refused.
1881
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:22,120
I wonder if you could explain
to me why that is.
1882
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:23,560
I'm not aware of that.
1883
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,640
I'll be happy to have people
take it offline with you.
1884
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,920
You are in violation.
1885
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,280
The police are on their way.
1886
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:48,080
Charges will be pressed
against you
1887
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:49,960
for trespassing on property
1888
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,080
that is protected
under Homeland Security.
1889
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,200
Police are on their way.
1890
01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,760
You are trespassing on property
1891
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,640
that is protected
under Homeland Security.
1892
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,520
The police are on their way.
1893
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,800
MUSIC: "Crown" by Mama Sol
1894
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:58,120
# I can't say that I've always
walked no straight and narrow
1895
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:02,960
# But I did name my kid after
an Egyptian pharaoh, yeah
1896
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,520
# And I can't say life for me just
been some sorta walk in the park
1897
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:07,600
# Yeah
1898
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,800
# But like a spark in the dark
or a dart to the heart
1899
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:11,360
# I'll bring light and love
1900
01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:12,960
# I put nothing above
1901
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,360
# My God
My God
1902
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,960
# My scars are reminders
of the pain I've surpassed
1903
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,720
# It's amazing how we forget so fast
the blood in our veins
1904
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,560
# Contains the DNA
of the ancient ones
1905
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,840
# Disappointing how complacent
we've become
1906
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,200
# I meditate with the rising sun
1907
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:29,640
# First stage is pray
1908
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,440
# On a path and the path is prepared
1909
01:53:32,440 --> 01:53:33,640
# I'm very aware
1910
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:35,840
# We are at war
more than ever before
1911
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:39,160
# Until the boss of an entire
ancestral energy's empire
1912
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:42,080
# And when we strike back,
we under attack
1913
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:43,480
# From so many angles
1914
01:53:43,480 --> 01:53:45,960
# How can you pose for a pic
with your family and smile
1915
01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:48,000
# When behind you
a dead body dangles?
1916
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,320
# Think about that
1917
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,680
# Don't give up your crown
1918
01:53:51,680 --> 01:53:54,040
# Don't give up your throne, king
1919
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,240
# Cos our time is now
1920
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:58,840
# Let it be known, queen
1921
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,080
# Send movie stars
1922
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,440
# Send in some guys
1923
01:54:03,440 --> 01:54:05,840
# They know who we are
1924
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,520
# See, it was by design for us
1925
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:11,960
# To be on welfare
1926
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:14,200
# Live in projects
with no health care
1927
01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:16,240
# Very little direction
1928
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:18,480
# But we have our pride
1929
01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:21,440
# At the high water here
collecting promise
1930
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:23,640
# Neglect our looks
1931
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,680
# Send more liquid
till depression comes
1932
01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,320
# Sneaking in, it's sink or swim
1933
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,360
# Where I'm from
There's lead in the water
1934
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,560
# I ain't asleep or dumb... #
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