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[birds twittering]
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[swing squeaking]
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[chicken clucking]
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[vehicle approaches]
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[man 1] When we first moved here
in March of 2020...
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the very first time
that I saw something in the sky,
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I really hesitated
to say anything to anybody.
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But it happened repetitively,
maybe three, four times,
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before I mentioned it
to somebody down in Dublin.
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They said, "Well, you know
that this place is famous for that."
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[intriguing ambient music playing]
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Do you know who Ezekiel was?
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Prophet?
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- Ezekiel was a prophet. You're right.
- [boy] Mm-hmm.
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And it was a long time ago, all right?
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As a Homeland Security consultant,
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I do a lot of threat analyst work,
uh, for the government.
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I've seen the government flat-out lie.
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Where I was standing in the location
they were lying about.
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What I am seeing here is similar
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to sightings that they had
by the guys in the Air Force.
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[man 2, over radio] Whoa! Got it!
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[laughs]
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[man 1] It's the movement
that catches your attention,
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that fast movement.
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That's exactly how we're seeing it here.
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[intriguing music continues]
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- [girl] Ah, jeez. [laughs]
- [chuckles] I know, right? Spooky.
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It's something otherworldly.
There's no other way to describe that.
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"And the star they had seen
guided them to Bethlehem."
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One of the reasons
why a lot of people don't believe
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is because they haven't seen it,
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and it messes with their concept
of who we are in relation to the universe.
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...and it guided them,
so it knew where it was going.
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- Right?
- [boy] Mm-hmm.
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That mean... That means it was...
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UFO.
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UFO.
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Do I believe there's life
on other planets? Yes.
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But I don't think
these are people from another planet.
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I still think these are
what people called angels.
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I think they're messengers.
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I mean, I'm dying to know
what they've got to say.
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[eerie music playing]
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[man 1] From the beginning
of recorded time,
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men have been seeing
unexplainable things in the sky.
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[woman] Are we alone in the universe?
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[man 2] Somewhere in the data
will be something worth real inquiry.
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We have not been hiding anything.
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There are such things
as interplanetary spaceships.
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I thought it was an alien,
and he had big eyes.
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[man 3] There's something
profoundly important going on here
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that is authentic and real.
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[music fading out]
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[interviewer] How much of your work
is classified?
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All of it.
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Eh, all of... Everything I did,
all day long, was classified.
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All of it.
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{\an8}My name is Matthew Roberts.
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{\an8}I was a cryptologic technician
in the US Navy for 16 years.
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I was present
on the USS Theodore Roosevelt
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for the Gimbal event.
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{\an8}[pilot 1] Look at that thing, dude.
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{\an8}[Matthew] So, uh... [sighs]
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{\an8}...that was the first time
I saw the Gimbal footage.
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- [pilot 2] Well, if there's...
- [pilot 1] Look at this thing!
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[pilot 2] It's rotating.
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I don't... I can't even describe the shape.
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I mean, it looks a little bit disc-like.
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It's flying along,
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and then it kind of tilts up
onto its side.
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[suspenseful pulsating music playing]
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I was watching this footage,
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and I could see
no kind of aviation surfaces
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that you would expect to see.
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Wings, tail, you know, rudder.
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There's none of that.
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So I couldn't really make sense
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of why this thing was
kind of up in the air like it was.
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And...
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I just...
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I had this kind of
emotional response to it.
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And I... At the time,
I didn't understand that. Um...
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I knew that it wasn't ours, right?
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I knew that it wasn't anybody else's. Uh...
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So, I mean, that only leaves...
one other option, I think.
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- [interviewer] Which is what?
- And that's non-human tech.
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Non-human intelligence technology.
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[pulsating music continues]
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[Matthew] Because my job was classified,
and I had access to classified, um...
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I was kind of aware...
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this was not a one-off event for the Navy.
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This, uh... These things happen frequently.
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[music fading out]
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All the time.
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They happen all the time.
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- [radio static crackling]
- [distorted voices over radio]
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[reporter] The skies over Stephenville
haven't looked the same since a UFO...
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[radio static crackling]
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[distorted radio jingle plays]
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[woman 1] Milk Duds!
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[woman 2] A nice, cold glass
of Borden milk will cool you off.
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You'll like the taste of milk
with everything you eat.
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- [radio jingle] ♪ Milk is a natural ♪
- [static crackles]
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[milk sloshing]
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[cows mooing]
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[man] Stephenville, Texas.
The milk capital of the world.
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They put out quite a bit of milk
over there.
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Something very strange about this area.
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I look at the sky quite often.
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Wonder what all's out there.
Wonder what we don't know about.
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[crowd cheering]
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[man] I grew up around here.
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- [lighter flicking]
- [tobacco crackles]
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Nothing to do in these small towns.
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You wanna fight?
Sure, go ahead and have a fight.
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That same night, we'd go camping
or go fishing on the river down there.
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So, it was... It's innocent fun.
We'd have a good time.
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{\an8}[engine rumbles]
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{\an8}You know, I've been fascinated
with engines of all types
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since I can remember.
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So much to where
I started a trucking company.
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And it became quite large,
had quite a few people working for me.
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[engine rumbling]
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I've always owned quite a few motorcycles,
boats, airplanes.
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Just to see how it all works.
It's just simply fascinating.
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In 2008, I had a great life.
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I had a successful business.
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I guess I'd been married 16,
17 years at that time.
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[exhales]
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Very blessed is all I can say.
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But what I saw in the sky that night
changed everything.
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[suspenseful ambient music plays]
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It'd been a long, cold winter. Bad winter.
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That was the first day
we had a decent day.
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So we came out here
to the top of the hill to have a campfire.
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[fire crackling]
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It was myself, Mike Odom, and Lance Jones.
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Then all of a sudden,
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I see some real bright,
high-intensity lights,
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off to the east, headed our way
at a high velocity of speed.
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The lights were so bright,
it was unlike anything I'd ever seen.
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It was almost blinding to look at 'em.
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Then what amazed me
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is there was no wind noise,
no engine noise.
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There was silence.
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When it came past us,
I developed the most peaceful,
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easy feeling
I think I've ever had in my life.
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It was almost like a religious experience.
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Like I was at one with whatever it was.
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Something I've never had
before or since then. It was unreal.
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And then another brief second,
it just simply disappeared.
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It didn't streak off or anything.
It just disappeared.
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And then you could count,
one second, two seconds, three seconds,
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and two F-16s came in hot pursuit.
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Full afterburner hanging out.
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And in my head, I'm wondering,
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"Is it War of the Worlds,
or what was going on?"
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I got in my car,
and I went back to my house,
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and my wife says, "What happened?"
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She could tell I was visibly shaken.
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I told her what happened, and she says,
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"Whatever you do,
don't tell anybody about it."
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And she says,
"People will think we're crazy."
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And I said, "Actually, I don't care
what people think about us."
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"All I know is what I saw."
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[telephone ringing tone]
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That next day, I called the newspaper,
Stephenville Empire-Tribune. "ET."
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[telephone ringing]
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[woman] It had been a slow news day,
the day that the UFO story broke.
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[telephone ringing]
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[woman] Angelia Joiner was
in the newsroom,
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and she had gotten a call
from Steve Allen.
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And he was a local pilot,
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and then he told her
that he saw something strange in the sky.
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[Angelia] He said something like, "Okay,
I really need to tell you something,
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but I don't want you to think I'm crazy."
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{\an8}And he began telling me a story
that, uh, I found pretty incredible.
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{\an8}Angelia had a brief conversation with him
and came to my office and said,
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{\an8}"You'll never believe this, but..."
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It was late in the afternoon,
and we really had our stories together.
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So I was like, "Yeah, sure, check it out."
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"We'll talk about it tomorrow
when I get to the office."
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I grew up in California. I got engaged.
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And my husband was in the dairy business,
and his family had come out here.
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So we got married and we moved.
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It was a startling change for me.
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As managing editor,
I was responsible for all of the content.
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I had a lot to prove.
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I was the youngest editor
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that had ever been hired
to be the managing editor of the paper.
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I was the second female.
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And I was still seen as an outsider.
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So, inside, I was dealing
with a lot of insecurity, I think.
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The next morning, I picked up my paper
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and saw "UFO" in huge font
across the top of the paper.
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I just felt like the wind
was just completely knocked out of me.
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I thought, "This is the end of my career."
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"Steve Allen, Mike Odom, and Lance Jones
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were out admiring
a beautiful Texas sunset Tuesday evening
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when they saw something
none of them can explain."
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I had a publisher at the time,
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and she told Angelia,
"You're going with this tonight."
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And she changed the whole front page.
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She was the boss, the top dog,
so she did whatever she wanted.
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But I was in charge of the newsroom,
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and so I felt like people
were gonna question my credibility.
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My news judgment.
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"The ship wasn't really visible
and it was totally silent,
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but the lights spanned
a mile-and-a-half long
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and a mile-and-a-half wide."
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That really sent me over the edge.
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I mean, aside from the headline,
just "the ship."
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Like, we were naturally assuming
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that this was some kind
of a spaceship out there.
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When I walked through those doors,
I was like a crazy woman. I was furious.
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Walking into the publisher's office,
and I was screaming and crying. [chuckles]
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I mean, like, "You have..."
"What have you done?"
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She was like, "Well, you're wrong."
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"You are... you're absolutely wrong
about all of this."
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"We've sold out every newspaper
in the county."
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{\an8}[man] When I started reading the story,
my brain just goes 100 miles an hour.
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{\an8}I thought to myself,
"Man, what I saw, other people saw it."
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You know, "Do I tell anybody?
What do I do?"
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[suspenseful pulsating music playing]
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[Lee Roy] It was my wife's birthday,
and we wanted to rent a movie.
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And I came outside to my squad car
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to get my credit card.
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As I'm walking back,
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something caught my attention.
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I saw what appeared...
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I-I call it a bubble or an orb.
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It was a, uh, reddish-orange,
fiery-looking color.
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Really big.
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And I focused in on it.
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And that's when I noticed...
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my little boy, and he said, "Look, Dad."
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There was these bright lights,
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flashing, like a pulsating thing.
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Like that.
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They had spread out.
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There was 11 or 12 lights
that I was able to count.
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All of a sudden,
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these things just shoot off
at a blazing speed.
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Well, it was probably what seemed
to be maybe a minute or two, uh,
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I hear jets coming.
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[jet engines whoosh]
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They were flying in the same direction,
the same path as these lights.
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You know, I think those jets were
the same ones that Steve Allen saw.
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[Steve] After the newspaper came out,
I get the call from Lee Roy Gaitan.
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I didn't know him at the time,
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but he told me his story,
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which, time-wise,
matched exactly what ours did.
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And I said, "Lee Roy, can you help us out
with this a little bit?"
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And he said, "No, I can't. I'm sorry."
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[Lee Roy] I'm voted in
by my peers to protect them,
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just like the sheriff is.
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What are they gonna think,
that I'm one of the guys that said,
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"I saw these lights"?
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I thought it was gonna ruin me.
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[Steve] And I said, "I understand,"
but I said, "Come on, Lee Roy."
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"I need somebody
with a little credibility to add to it."
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[Lee Roy] He said,
"I saw something special. You did too."
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"And I think the world needs to know."
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Somebody like Lee Roy Gaitan
has a lot to lose.
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I have a lot of respect for him
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because when I called,
he hesitated a little bit.
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Then he said,
"No, I think it's important."
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He said that,
"What we saw was really different."
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I just saw some strange lights,
traveling at a high rate of speed,
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doing some things
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that I've never seen anything
before in my life.
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[Sara] That was, I think,
the first big county official
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that she was able to get
that went on the record with it.
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Gave, really,
the stories a lot of credibility.
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[man 1] When I first heard
about these reports,
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the first thing that went through my mind,
"Okay, something significant happened."
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Now, as to what happened,
at that point, I didn't know.
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But it was definitely worth investigating.
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My degree's in chemistry.
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I was an engineering manager
in the semiconductor field.
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And for the last 16 years,
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{\an8}I have spent my time
studying the UFO phenomenon.
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{\an8}And my goal has always been
to try to bring science to this subject.
285
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MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network.
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It's an organization
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that investigates UFO sightings.
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In 2008,
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I was the director of research at MUFON.
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And I remember
I was monitoring reports as they came in,
291
00:15:40,189 --> 00:15:43,525
and I suddenly saw over 20 reports
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in one geographic area,
Stephenville and Dublin.
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And I knew then
that something unusual had happened.
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[gripping music plays]
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My view at that point in time was,
"We need to get there as soon as possible
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and investigate this
while everyone's memory is fresh."
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[man 2] We were contacted by MUFON,
and I'd never heard of MUFON.
298
00:16:05,881 --> 00:16:08,425
But they wanted to set up
an investigation.
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And so we said,
"Well, we've got the Rotary building,
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and-and you're welcome to come in here."
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I'm chairman of the board
of the First National Bank of Dublin.
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My grandfather was mayor of Dublin
in the '30s.
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And then my, um, dad was mayor.
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My brother was mayor.
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{\an8}So, yeah, we've been in Erath County,
in this area, for a long time.
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[reporter 1] Investigators
from the Mutual UFO Network
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00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:40,207
plan to look into
the Stephenville sightings this weekend.
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[Pat] I was setting things up,
and the guy said, "35 is probably max."
309
00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:48,298
"I don't know
if we've ever had that many show up."
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We set up 35, 40 chairs there,
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and then the door opens up.
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And it's like... It just filled up.
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[reporter 2] Hundreds of people
crowded Dublin's Rotary Club
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to share their stories.
315
00:17:01,228 --> 00:17:05,190
What I saw was a very large blue light.
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These were big, round objects.
317
00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:09,611
You can't see through it.
You can't see in it.
318
00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:11,947
It was going so fast,
and it didn't make any noise.
319
00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:13,871
- [static crackles]
- [suspenseful music plays]
320
00:17:13,907 --> 00:17:15,409
[indistinct chatter]
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00:17:15,492 --> 00:17:17,077
[Robert] The building was packed.
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There were people even outside
on the sidewalk.
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Some of the people who had come,
they just turned around and walked off.
324
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They didn't even want to deal
with the number of people there.
325
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[reporter 3] At least 500 people
filled the room.
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Witnesses who saw the light.
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00:17:30,674 --> 00:17:32,926
[Pat] The MUFON folks
were kinda just taken aback
328
00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:35,637
because they've never seen
anything like this.
329
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,265
[man 3] In an extremely
small number of cases
330
00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:40,267
will we get a mass sighting like this.
331
00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:42,019
We put all those chairs out,
332
00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:45,689
and there were still people
standing around the room.
333
00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:48,317
All right, if I could see a show of hands
who the witnesses are.
334
00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,445
[Pat] It was like everybody there
had seen something.
335
00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:53,322
We're approaching
a hundred people, probably,
336
00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:56,158
that have seen something
in regard to this.
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00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:59,161
[Robert] The Houston papers are there,
the Dallas papers,
338
00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:01,497
the papers from outside of Texas.
339
00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:03,874
The best way I can describe it
was a media circus.
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00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:07,503
[Sara] The next day or two,
we were just inundated
341
00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:09,755
with media from all over the country.
342
00:18:09,838 --> 00:18:11,882
Dozens of people in a small Texas town
343
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are talking about
some unexpected visitors.
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- Do you guys believe in UFOs?
- Yes.
345
00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:17,721
- I think it's possible.
- Yes.
346
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I realized that the entire city
had totally transformed.
347
00:18:20,974 --> 00:18:22,559
[horn blares]
348
00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:25,020
[reporter 4] Skies over Stephenville
haven't looked the same
349
00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:29,399
since a UFO reportedly
made tracks across it January 8th.
350
00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:31,610
[reporter 5] Stephenville,
the North Texas town,
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is swept up in UFO mania.
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00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:36,824
[Steve] They had Japanese film crews,
Brazilian film crews.
353
00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:40,828
The Japanese film crews asked,
"Why does it keep coming to Stephenville?"
354
00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:42,246
Then, jokingly, I said,
355
00:18:42,329 --> 00:18:44,164
"Well, it's the milk capital
of the world."
356
00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:46,667
They said, "Oh, they like milk!"
357
00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:49,419
"Da-eerie."
358
00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:54,258
[Steve] No wonder they're kind of gray
and sickly-looking. Vitamin D deficiency.
359
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- [violins stab]
- [man] Got milk?
360
00:18:55,968 --> 00:19:01,849
[woman] The high school science club
designed a T-shirt and made $4,000.
361
00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:03,827
- I can't even believe it.
- [marching band plays]
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00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:06,395
[reporter 5] Aluminum foil hats
to ward off alien mind probes.
363
00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:07,688
Nice look, guy.
364
00:19:07,771 --> 00:19:09,971
- [woman laughs]
- [Sara] People are having a good time.
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00:19:10,023 --> 00:19:12,343
It's the most excitement
Stephenville's had in a long time,
366
00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:14,278
so it probably won't end here. [laughs]
367
00:19:14,361 --> 00:19:16,071
[band drumming, stop]
368
00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,302
[Sara] One evening, my husband
and I happened to go to dinner,
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and it was packed.
370
00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:27,207
And all of a sudden, the TVs came on,
and there was... There they were.
371
00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:29,042
[news bulletin music plays on TV]
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[man 5] They were dancing around,
and they were flickering.
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00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:35,090
[Larry King] Tonight, strange sights
in the night skies over Texas
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00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,176
fuel otherworldly questions.
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00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:42,055
When that came on, there was just a hush.
Everybody just was riveted.
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00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:45,100
[Larry King] Angelia Joiner,
staff writer for the Empire-Tribune,
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00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:46,810
who has talked to several witnesses.
378
00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:51,190
Very similar stories from people
that have called in and emailed me.
379
00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:55,569
So I think there's been
a lot of consistency in the spottings.
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00:19:55,652 --> 00:19:59,239
[Sara] Angelia did not treat this story
like it was a fun-and-games story.
381
00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:01,742
She... She took it serious
from the very beginning.
382
00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:05,454
After doing the first story,
I did get a little spooked.
383
00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:07,706
I thought, "Oh my gosh,
this is bigger than...
384
00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:10,751
than what I even dreamed it could be."
385
00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:16,423
[Pat] It was nice
that people were calling me,
386
00:20:16,506 --> 00:20:18,425
going, "Hey, I saw the front page,
387
00:20:18,508 --> 00:20:22,221
and it was saying 'Dublin, '"
and it's kinda like, "Wow, that's great!"
388
00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:26,058
But then, at the same time, people...
There's some that just love to ridicule.
389
00:20:26,141 --> 00:20:28,810
They love to kinda knock somebody
off their horse.
390
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:33,732
There were some, um, radio stations
out of Fort Worth came down and...
391
00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:35,943
and basically just to make fun.
392
00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,486
- You know?
- They took my job.
393
00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,530
They took my wife.
But they're not getting my pickup truck.
394
00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:44,952
There was people that showed up
just to try to discredit these folks.
395
00:20:45,035 --> 00:20:47,829
When one of those little green monsters
starts walking up here,
396
00:20:47,913 --> 00:20:49,039
then I'll believe it.
397
00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:52,376
And so, um, when these sightings
started taking place,
398
00:20:52,459 --> 00:20:55,963
we saw it, but we didn't really say
a whole lot about it.
399
00:21:04,179 --> 00:21:07,557
It was starting to get a little dark.
It was about this time of night.
400
00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:10,519
My friend Kent was telling us this story
401
00:21:10,602 --> 00:21:13,689
about something
that he saw a few days before.
402
00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:18,360
I looked up, and I'm saying,
"Ah, that's just not normal for me."
403
00:21:18,443 --> 00:21:22,572
He saw this, um... this huge, um...
404
00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:24,324
He called it a Dorito.
405
00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:28,120
Looked like a triangle,
or I-I said originally a Dorito.
406
00:21:28,912 --> 00:21:32,332
He, um, stands up,
and he's stretching his back,
407
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:35,669
and all of a sudden,
he goes, "They're back."
408
00:21:35,752 --> 00:21:38,422
And I said, "Who's back?"
409
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,590
And he just points.
410
00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:44,428
I see this big, triangular vessel.
411
00:21:44,511 --> 00:21:47,055
But what's amazing is there's no sound.
412
00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:48,974
There is no sound whatsoever.
413
00:21:49,057 --> 00:21:53,478
{\an8}I couldn't process what I was seeing
because it was huge,
414
00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:55,272
{\an8}and you just look and you think...
415
00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:57,983
{\an8}"What is that thing?"
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00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,527
And then, all of a sudden, it's gone.
417
00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:03,655
Almost like it just vanished.
418
00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:06,783
I was not scared,
419
00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:09,453
but it was almost where I'm thinking...
420
00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:11,288
beginning to doubt myself.
421
00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:12,789
"Did I even see anything?"
422
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:14,875
Then it was, like...
The next day, it's like...
423
00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:17,210
"Don't tell anybody."
424
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,343
When you sit there and you say,
"Yeah, I just saw this... this vessel,"
425
00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:28,096
or, "I saw these lights,"
well, who do we tell about it?
426
00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:31,808
And if we did,
what kind of flak are we gonna take?
427
00:22:31,892 --> 00:22:33,518
[school bell rings]
428
00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:35,979
[students chattering]
429
00:22:37,105 --> 00:22:41,526
[in Spanish] What we don't understand,
we try to explain,
430
00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,779
but our culture is also very open
431
00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:48,575
to accepting things
we cannot see or understand.
432
00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:53,246
We do not rely on facts constantly,
like here in the US.
433
00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:58,585
The inexplicable does not necessarily mean
that it is not reality or fact.
434
00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:04,800
[in English] In 2008,
what I saw were lights in the sky.
435
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,345
{\an8}But the neat thing about it was
that when I saw those,
436
00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:11,108
{\an8}I remembered they were exactly the same
as the first time I saw 'em.
437
00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:12,724
{\an8}'Cause I saw them first as a teenager.
438
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,810
[eerie ambient music playing]
439
00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,735
We're originally from Mexico.
440
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,780
And for Christmas break,
we were getting ready
441
00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:29,241
to travel to Michoacán,
in Mexico, with our family.
442
00:23:30,826 --> 00:23:34,538
My mother, the evening before,
was on the dairy farm.
443
00:23:34,621 --> 00:23:36,706
And she says,
"I was out there feeding the calves,
444
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:40,377
and these lights were-were appearing
up in the sky, like bubbles."
445
00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,838
"You know, could it be evil spirits
or-or-or something?"
446
00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:45,590
Because we tend to be
a very superstitious culture.
447
00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:48,468
And so when she saw those,
she was very much startled.
448
00:23:48,552 --> 00:23:49,553
She was afraid.
449
00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:53,223
That next day, we were on our way
to travel to Mexico,
450
00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,476
we were in our vehicle,
already loaded up and-and headed out,
451
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,979
and these lights started coming up.
452
00:23:59,062 --> 00:24:02,649
And then my mom said,
"Those are the ones I saw, um, yesterday."
453
00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:06,361
And me and my sister and my other sibling
saw those at that time.
454
00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:09,990
It wasn't something that we could explain.
455
00:24:10,073 --> 00:24:12,826
All I know is that what I saw in 1989
456
00:24:12,909 --> 00:24:15,620
was the same thing that,
again, I saw in 2008.
457
00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:17,706
[mysterious music playing]
458
00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:21,710
We were coming back from Fort Worth,
me and my husband,
459
00:24:21,793 --> 00:24:23,545
about this time in the evening.
460
00:24:24,212 --> 00:24:27,299
We could see the lights up in this area.
461
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,511
It was like they would bubble in one spot,
then bubble in another spot.
462
00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:37,642
And it was too fast for any-any...
any airplane or helicopter to do.
463
00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,939
As we're looking up,
I'm hanging out the door with my camera
464
00:24:43,023 --> 00:24:45,775
trying to take pictures of it,
465
00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:50,363
but the camera, it just wasn't fast enough
to be... to be able to take those pictures.
466
00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:52,324
Then they were gone.
467
00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:59,206
I do believe that when people
come to our area, it's for a reason.
468
00:24:59,289 --> 00:25:02,250
If they're here,
why are they here? [chuckles]
469
00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:05,670
Today we're-we're gonna be
talking about Don Quixote.
470
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:07,464
Who's familiar with Don Quixote?
471
00:25:07,547 --> 00:25:09,382
I love working with students.
472
00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,593
I've always told them,
"You have a mind of your own."
473
00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:14,679
You need to see what information A
and information B has.
474
00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:17,682
Not going against their parents
or going against, uh,
475
00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:19,226
any-any type of doctrine,
476
00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,144
but just to be informed.
477
00:25:22,812 --> 00:25:26,233
[Steve] We was very driven
to find out what it was that we saw.
478
00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,652
The more we dug into it,
479
00:25:28,735 --> 00:25:31,404
I kept developing more questions
than answers.
480
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:37,035
I don't have enough nerve
to call the NAS, the naval air station.
481
00:25:37,118 --> 00:25:38,870
Angelia, she did.
482
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,623
She'd called down there
and talked to Maj. Carl Lewis.
483
00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:45,961
[Angelia] I called him to check out,
484
00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:48,630
"Were there F-16s in the area?"
485
00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:52,384
He said, "No, we did not have
any F-16s in the area."
486
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:55,027
[reporter] The Air Force says
none of its planes were in the area
487
00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:56,513
at the time of the sightings.
488
00:25:56,596 --> 00:25:58,431
[Steve] Angelia told me that.
489
00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:00,767
And he'd come back
with all kinds of excuses
490
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,602
what we thought we might have seen.
491
00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:06,731
One excuse was a reflection
off of a high-altitude jet airliner.
492
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,872
She says, "What do you think about that?"
493
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,570
And I said, "Is it a reflection
off of my shiny white ass?"
494
00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,780
[tense ambient music playing]
495
00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:16,116
[Angelia] I was really worried
about Steve Allen.
496
00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:18,034
You could tell he was just haggard.
497
00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:21,705
His wife told me
he was on the Internet constantly,
498
00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:23,832
looking for pictures,
499
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:27,919
trying to find something
that looked like what he had seen.
500
00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:33,550
[Steve] I told my wife that several of us
was gon' get in our airplanes
501
00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:34,676
and go look for it.
502
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,886
And she, of course, didn't like that idea.
503
00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:40,140
But, you know,
it's like telling a-a kid to do something.
504
00:26:40,223 --> 00:26:41,850
We're gon' do what we want to.
505
00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:48,356
Our first thought was,
506
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,692
we hoped we would find
where it was based out of.
507
00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:52,027
It appeared out of nowhere.
508
00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:54,696
[indistinct chatter over radio]
509
00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:58,700
[Steve] So we explored all possibilities.
We combed the whole area.
510
00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:00,619
- [chatter continues]
- [radio trills]
511
00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,412
[Steve] Then on about the third night...
512
00:27:02,495 --> 00:27:04,164
[radio chatter continues]
513
00:27:04,247 --> 00:27:05,975
...we was talking to each other
on the radio.
514
00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,667
I said, "Do you guys ever feel like
515
00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:09,461
you're looking for a needle
in a haystack?"
516
00:27:09,544 --> 00:27:11,755
- [chatter continues]
- [radio trills]
517
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,051
[Robert] What I saw happen in Steve
is the same thing I've seen happen
518
00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:17,177
in a lot of witnesses.
519
00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:19,471
You've got this feeling of control.
520
00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:24,184
And then, suddenly,
you see something close to you,
521
00:27:24,267 --> 00:27:29,272
and it does something
that is so... impossible
522
00:27:29,356 --> 00:27:32,442
that it just shakes the underpinnings
523
00:27:32,525 --> 00:27:35,779
of what they have
always thought the world was.
524
00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:38,198
[reporter] Ricky Sorrells was deer hunting
in these woods
525
00:27:38,281 --> 00:27:42,577
when he says the UFO stopped
and hovered just over his head.
526
00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,580
And I did just like this,
and I could see it. And it...
527
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,916
[Robert] Ricky Sorrells has
a very interesting story.
528
00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,293
Ricky actually had a UFO sighting
529
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:54,130
almost two weeks, roughly,
before the Stephenville incident.
530
00:27:57,008 --> 00:27:59,719
[suspenseful pulsating music playing]
531
00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:01,596
[Robert] I met Ricky personally,
532
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,307
and he told me the story
of-of what happened.
533
00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:06,851
He was out deer hunting.
534
00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,771
All of a sudden, everything got dark,
535
00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:12,023
like clouds had come overhead.
536
00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:15,819
Well, he looked up,
and there was an object above him.
537
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:19,447
He couldn't tell its size or its shape
538
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:24,035
because it was so large
that it just covered everything above him.
539
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,039
[Steve] He raised his rifle up
and looked at it through the scope,
540
00:28:28,123 --> 00:28:29,791
so he could get a better view of it.
541
00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:33,962
And, uh, he says, "I looked it over,
and there was no bolts, no rivets,
542
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:35,839
and it just seemed seamless all over."
543
00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:37,340
And that's all he could see.
544
00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:40,969
And he says,
"I started to go ahead and shoot it,"
545
00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:44,180
but he got to thinking, "That wasn't
the smartest thing I'd ever done."
546
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:47,642
[reporter] Sorrells didn't want to start
an interstellar war.
547
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,937
{\an8}And when it took off, it took off so fast,
if I would have blinked,
548
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:52,397
{\an8}I would have thought it vanished.
549
00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,191
He said, "You know, the amazing thing
550
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:58,987
is that this huge object
that took off at such a high speed,
551
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:01,281
it should have just sucked me
right along with it."
552
00:29:01,364 --> 00:29:04,993
And he said, "There was nothing.
No sound, no wind. Nothing."
553
00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:09,539
Somehow that object
didn't interact with the atmosphere.
554
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,292
[music fading out]
555
00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:17,839
[Lee Roy] There was one morning, uh,
Ricky came to my house,
556
00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:19,424
and Ricky's in tears.
557
00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,260
I asked him, "Man, what's going on?"
558
00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:24,703
He said, "Lee Roy,
people are harassing me at my own house."
559
00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:29,476
"Who's harassing you?"
He said, "I don't know."
560
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,479
He said, "They tell me
that they, uh, work for the government."
561
00:29:32,562 --> 00:29:33,897
[tense music plays]
562
00:29:34,814 --> 00:29:37,150
[Steve] Ricky was definitely
being intimidated.
563
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:48,870
He found a bullet.
It was definitely military-grade.
564
00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:52,081
He thinks they may have
left that on purpose
565
00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:54,709
to persuade him
not to be speaking about it.
566
00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,754
The next thing I know,
um, he is calling me.
567
00:29:57,837 --> 00:30:00,882
He said, "Something's going on.
Somebody's bothering me."
568
00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:02,085
[helicopter blades whirring]
569
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:05,678
"I'm having all these helicopters
flying over my place."
570
00:30:06,554 --> 00:30:09,891
"They are running my cattle to death."
571
00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:14,729
And he came to me
out of concern for my safety.
572
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:18,191
{\an8}[Larry King] Angelia,
assuming that Ricky is not nuts,
573
00:30:18,274 --> 00:30:20,235
{\an8}uh, what do you make of this?
574
00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:26,324
{\an8}Well, I feel that perhaps
Ricky might have been singled out,
575
00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:31,287
simply because he was the one
that had a daytime sighting.
576
00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:34,541
He had more detail than anyone else,
577
00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:38,002
and I wondered if that might be
why he was singled out.
578
00:30:38,878 --> 00:30:39,878
And, suddenly...
579
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,466
Ricky stops talking to everybody.
580
00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:48,179
I think Ricky saw a lot more
than what the rest of us saw.
581
00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:53,351
[Steve] Ricky has said he saw some sort
of something inside the aircraft,
582
00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:58,064
and it resembled some sort of insect
or maybe even a praying mantis.
583
00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:06,489
[Lee Roy] I-I-I think that Ricky was
possibly approached by someone
584
00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:09,993
and offered a monetary agreement.
585
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,537
They wanted him quiet.
586
00:31:13,746 --> 00:31:16,833
[Steve] A military colonel called me,
one afternoon at my house,
587
00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:19,544
and talked to me
about an hour and 45 minutes.
588
00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:24,257
Says, "We've had a lot of discussion
about you and what to do with you."
589
00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:26,259
"You're kind of a high-profile guy."
590
00:31:26,342 --> 00:31:29,637
"If you just happened to come up missing,
it'd kinda look suspicious."
591
00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:36,019
{\an8}[pilot 1] They're going against the wind.
The wind's 120 knots west.
592
00:31:36,102 --> 00:31:37,353
{\an8}[pilot 2] Look at that, dude!
593
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:42,859
[Matthew] I found myself
watching the footage over and over again,
594
00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:44,903
almost obsessively.
595
00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:47,697
I had no awareness
596
00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:52,327
of what the upper chain of command
was doing with this information.
597
00:31:53,828 --> 00:31:57,874
In 2017, I transferred
to the Office of Naval Intelligence.
598
00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,752
{\an8}I was gonna be an analyst there.
[inhales shakily]
599
00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:06,758
{\an8}And, um... shortly after I arrived, I, uh...
600
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:12,472
I started to have
these follow-on experiences
601
00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:13,806
with the phenomenon.
602
00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:19,812
That was, like, the beginning of seeing
non-human entities in my room at night.
603
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:29,906
I would wake up several times a week,
604
00:32:29,989 --> 00:32:35,495
and I would feel my body
kind of sliding across the bed.
605
00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:37,705
And I knew that they were taking me.
606
00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:41,417
I woke up 'cause I felt...
607
00:32:42,543 --> 00:32:45,505
a hand grab my arm right here.
608
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:51,928
So I went to try and raise my hands
to my face to wipe the sleep away,
609
00:32:52,011 --> 00:32:55,306
and, uh, I realized I couldn't move.
610
00:32:56,099 --> 00:33:01,521
And I could just see this outline
of a shadowy figure with...
611
00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:07,902
you know, a torso, two arms,
and a head, standing over me.
612
00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:12,615
When I was in the Navy
and I saw this footage,
613
00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,743
I knew that there was something out there.
614
00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,621
Right? I knew there was
something non-human out there.
615
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:21,165
So I knew when they started
showing up in my room
616
00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,544
that... a-all of this was real.
617
00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:28,589
I-I-I had the luxury of knowing
that I wasn't going crazy.
618
00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:31,801
Right? I knew what it was.
619
00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:36,180
{\an8}- [radio static]
- [indistinct chatter over radio]
620
00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,016
{\an8}[pilot 1, over radio] Whoa! Got it!
621
00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:39,100
{\an8}[laughter]
622
00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:40,852
{\an8}- Woo-hoo!
- [man] Roger.
623
00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:44,147
{\an8}[Matthew] There's all kinds
of sensor evidence, radar evidence.
624
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,191
{\an8}I think that there's enough footage
625
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:51,571
that if they just released all of it
and said, "Hey, this is what we have,"
626
00:33:51,654 --> 00:33:53,698
they don't even have to
give an explanation.
627
00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,951
They can just say,
"We don't know. This is what we got."
628
00:33:57,577 --> 00:34:01,122
Um, there would be no... no doubt
629
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:04,375
as to whether or not
the phenomenon is real.
630
00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:06,085
Everyone would know it.
631
00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:08,838
{\an8}The US military is now saying
632
00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:11,924
{\an8}it was fighter jets,
not UFOs, that folks were seeing
633
00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:13,968
{\an8}in the Stephenville area
earlier this month.
634
00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:19,057
[reporter 1] The military now says
it was training in the area after all.
635
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:22,602
Ten F-16s over
the Brownwood military operating area.
636
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:26,022
[reporter 2] The military spokesman blames
an internal communications error
637
00:34:26,105 --> 00:34:28,107
for giving out false information.
638
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,863
[Sara] There was no more new sightings.
639
00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:36,574
We were clearly not gonna get an answer
from the government or...
640
00:34:36,657 --> 00:34:37,825
on what this could have been.
641
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,120
So unless we have something new
and significant to report about it,
642
00:34:41,204 --> 00:34:42,830
we need to get on to other things.
643
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,709
It was a hard thing for Angelia.
644
00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:48,711
She really had a hard time
letting go of it
645
00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:50,213
and breaking away from it.
646
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:53,466
[Angelia] I just couldn't abandon
those witnesses.
647
00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:58,387
They were thrust into the limelight
just like I was.
648
00:34:58,888 --> 00:35:01,432
Plus, it was shaking them
to their very core
649
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:02,892
about what they had seen.
650
00:35:04,727 --> 00:35:07,146
[Sara] I had given her an assignment,
and I had this feeling
651
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:09,899
that she wasn't doing it that day,
and she left.
652
00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,568
And I got on her computer
and discovered some emails
653
00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:15,279
that she had sent
saying that the newspaper
654
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:18,866
and the management here,
or me, um, specifically,
655
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,828
I'd gotten pressure to shut it down
from the government and the city,
656
00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,621
and the city officials.
657
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:27,375
And I was pretty upset about that,
'cause none of that was true.
658
00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:30,435
[Steve] Very strange story with Angelia.
659
00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:33,422
She came into work one morning,
and her computer was gone.
660
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:37,510
And she says, "Hey, what happened
to my computer and my stuff?"
661
00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:39,720
And they told her
she didn't work there anymore.
662
00:35:40,763 --> 00:35:43,325
[Sara] Was it a termination? Yes.
But she didn't want to be there.
663
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:44,559
She wanted to continue this.
664
00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:48,146
And that was a story
that I was happy to move on from.
665
00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:52,525
If you look at the UFO phenomenon, for...
666
00:35:52,608 --> 00:35:56,988
It's gone on for 75 years
in the modern era.
667
00:35:57,071 --> 00:36:02,660
And yet, today, we still don't know
much more than we knew 75 years ago.
668
00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:07,874
That's troubling for many
in the field of science
669
00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:12,795
because there's no crystal clear,
solid evidence.
670
00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,840
And-And that's the mystery
of this phenomenon,
671
00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:18,759
is like, "Where is the evidence?"
672
00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:21,345
[slow suspenseful music playing]
673
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:36,360
[Lee Roy] Three o'clock in the morning,
674
00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:39,739
I'd been out working
a moonlighting job in Stephenville.
675
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,201
There's an alarm call at this business.
676
00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:46,787
I went ahead
and advised the sheriff's department
677
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:49,332
that I was close by
and would take the call.
678
00:36:49,415 --> 00:36:51,209
And when I get out of the car,
679
00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:56,672
I look and I see a pulsating orb
up in the sky.
680
00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,800
Got my dashcam and positioned it,
681
00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:02,637
trying to videotape this object.
682
00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:05,306
I took the video home.
683
00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:09,685
Uh, back then, it was VHS,
and put it in my player at home.
684
00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:11,229
- [VHS tape clacks]
- [static]
685
00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:20,404
It was not a clear video.
686
00:37:20,988 --> 00:37:24,408
It was like something
was interfering the, uh, quality.
687
00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:26,369
[tense ambient music playing]
688
00:37:26,452 --> 00:37:29,413
I said, "Man, why is this tape messing up,
right now of all times?"
689
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:34,418
I had never had a problem
before that with any video.
690
00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:38,005
After that, I used that camera
at least another year and a half,
691
00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:39,590
before I went digital.
692
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,217
Never had a problem like that.
693
00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:44,637
Whatever this thing was,
694
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,183
whoever was responsible for it
did not want clear footage of it.
695
00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:58,401
I wanted to find corroboration
for the object seen by Lee Roy and Steve,
696
00:37:58,484 --> 00:38:02,905
and all the other witnesses,
in Stephenville on January 8th, 2008.
697
00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:06,242
I had the witness statements.
698
00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:09,161
I knew the when and the where
699
00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:11,205
and the direction they were looking.
700
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:16,377
At the MUFON event,
I met a guy from Colorado, Glen Schulze,
701
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,047
and Glen was a former army radar expert.
702
00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:21,132
[static crackles]
703
00:38:21,215 --> 00:38:26,679
Anything that flies in the sky is caught
with what's called primary radar data.
704
00:38:27,179 --> 00:38:28,806
- [radar beeps]
- [static crackles]
705
00:38:28,889 --> 00:38:33,853
So I wanted radar data to support
what the witnesses had told me.
706
00:38:33,936 --> 00:38:37,940
{\an8}The FAA won't volunteer those returns
because they say nothing happened.
707
00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,277
{\an8}So you have to send
a Freedom of Information Act request in
708
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,321
and force them to release the data.
709
00:38:43,904 --> 00:38:47,033
[Robert] I sent FOIAs
to every police department,
710
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:48,993
to every military base.
711
00:38:49,076 --> 00:38:52,747
And the one FOIA that panned out the best
was the FOIA to the FAA,
712
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,124
which provided me with radar data
713
00:38:55,207 --> 00:38:59,253
from five different radar antennae
across the state of Texas.
714
00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:04,592
Glen Schulze and I went four months
to go through the radar data.
715
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,639
Before I went looking for any unknowns,
first thing I did was track the F-16s.
716
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:13,517
- [Steve] Two F-16s came in hot pursuit.
- [jet engine whooshes]
717
00:39:13,601 --> 00:39:17,229
[Lee Roy] They were flying
in the same direction as these lights.
718
00:39:17,313 --> 00:39:21,400
[Robert] These are the two that flew down
to Comanche, Dublin, Stephenville.
719
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,903
So once I identified where the F-16s were,
720
00:39:23,986 --> 00:39:28,532
I went to start looking for objects
that did not have transponders.
721
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:34,747
So I wanted to see everything
that was not supposed to be in the sky.
722
00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,166
I get to where Steve is.
723
00:39:37,249 --> 00:39:40,669
So I'm looking there,
and do I see any unknowns
724
00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,047
that are popping up
that match what he described?
725
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:45,591
[radar pinging]
726
00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:48,052
What I find is radar data
727
00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:53,641
that confirms what Steve Allen
and Lee Roy Gaitan have told me.
728
00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:56,644
[Steve] I came out here
to have a campfire,
729
00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:59,855
and all of a sudden,
I see some high-intensity lights,
730
00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:02,024
headed at a high velocity of speed.
731
00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:04,151
[Robert] Steve is located here.
732
00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:09,907
There are two radar points that showed
an object moving without a transponder.
733
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:14,078
[Steve] When we first saw the ship,
it was just a few minutes after 6:00.
734
00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:17,373
[Robert] The two data points
match the time
735
00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:20,709
and the geographical location.
736
00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:25,297
Does its flame-job over Stephenville,
just simply disappears.
737
00:40:25,381 --> 00:40:27,883
This is outside
of military operating area,
738
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:29,552
so it should have a transponder
739
00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:32,221
if it is military aircraft,
but it doesn't.
740
00:40:32,304 --> 00:40:34,223
In the case of Lee Roy,
741
00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:37,977
I had about five data points on the radar,
742
00:40:38,060 --> 00:40:41,188
indicating there is this object
south of his home.
743
00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:43,691
[Lee Roy] I came outside.
744
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:48,195
Something caught my attention
off-off to the, uh, southwest sky.
745
00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:53,367
All of a sudden, these things
just shoot off at a blazing speed.
746
00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:56,871
And they travel, what I say, northeast.
747
00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,999
[Robert] When he says
it moves to the northeast,
748
00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:03,127
I get a data point ten seconds later
749
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:07,548
that's to the northeast
and is moving at an extreme rate of speed.
750
00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:12,470
It's not very often
that you get radar data
751
00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:15,973
that just corroborates
exactly what a witness said
752
00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:18,642
in terms of geographic location and time.
753
00:41:18,726 --> 00:41:23,063
It showed it in black and white
that there was something flying out there.
754
00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:26,442
And that the speeds
that these things were traveling
755
00:41:26,525 --> 00:41:29,778
are, like, speeds
that we cannot do here on Earth.
756
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:32,156
[Robert] These stories check out
with the radar data.
757
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,451
So there's absolutely no doubt
that there's an object in the sky
758
00:41:35,534 --> 00:41:40,080
and that the object that's in the sky
does not have a transponder code.
759
00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,417
That tells you that you're...
you're dealing with something real,
760
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:44,502
whatever it is.
761
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:48,339
- [radio static crackles]
- [indistinct chatter over radio]
762
00:41:48,422 --> 00:41:50,382
[woman 1] When you need a boost, try milk.
763
00:41:50,466 --> 00:41:52,051
- [man 1] Okay!
- [radio static]
764
00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:54,428
[woman 2] With all the attention
of the UFO sightings,
765
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:57,806
Stephenville will no longer be alien
to the rest of the world.
766
00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,642
- [radio static]
- [child] Milk Duds!
767
00:41:59,725 --> 00:42:01,685
- [radio jingle] ♪ Milk is a natural ♪
- [static]
768
00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:05,147
[woman 3] Hundreds of UFO sightings
are reported to authorities...
769
00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:08,317
[man 2] If you're interested in UFOs,
you might wanna come on out,
770
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,610
if you dare.
771
00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:11,362
- [radio static]
- [cow moos]
772
00:42:11,445 --> 00:42:13,447
[unsettling ambient music playing]
773
00:42:15,241 --> 00:42:18,160
[Matthew] Is any of this stuff real?
I don't know. I mean...
774
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,122
I think UFOs are just as real as,
775
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,584
you know, the-the lights in this room or...
776
00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,754
or the cameras that are in front of me.
777
00:42:28,837 --> 00:42:30,130
I think that, uh...
778
00:42:31,257 --> 00:42:35,427
I think they are very real.
But I think, what is your idea of reality?
779
00:42:35,511 --> 00:42:36,720
That's the question.
780
00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,892
You see that the DOD and NASA, even,
781
00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:44,186
they're all hiring physicists
782
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:47,731
to work on this UFO issue.
783
00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:52,111
And that's not
where the truth of this lies.
784
00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:56,782
This lies more
within the realm of the humanities,
785
00:42:56,865 --> 00:43:01,662
within the realm of psychology,
uh, philosophy,
786
00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:03,581
religious studies.
787
00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:07,167
Um, that's where you're gonna find
the truth of this.
788
00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:11,505
No physicist... is gonna be able
to tell you what this is.
789
00:43:13,007 --> 00:43:19,471
Because the physicist maybe can tell you
how physical matter might behave,
790
00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:23,267
but the humanities will tell you why.
791
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:27,104
It's not a...
It's not a Department of Defense issue.
792
00:43:28,397 --> 00:43:30,941
It's a... It's a human issue is what it is.
793
00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,907
And that's why
I could not justify being quiet.
794
00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,162
- [children chattering]
- [trampoline squeaking]
795
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,248
[man] I've got eight children.
796
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:52,212
We homeschool our kids,
and we've really seen fruit from that.
797
00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:53,547
All right, ready? Up!
798
00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:54,840
[groans] Wuh-uh!
799
00:43:54,923 --> 00:43:56,342
Okay, which one first?
800
00:43:56,425 --> 00:43:59,011
Every day starts out
with some type of Bible lesson.
801
00:43:59,094 --> 00:44:00,734
- Ezekiel was a prophet.
- [boy 1] Mm-hmm.
802
00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:03,807
- [girl 1] He was in the Old Testament.
- In the Old Testament.
803
00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:05,351
So check this out.
804
00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:09,605
"I looked, and behold,
a whirlwind was coming out of the North."
805
00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:14,443
"A great cloud
with raging fire engulfing itself,
806
00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:16,278
and brightness was all around it."
807
00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:20,240
"And radiating out of it,
the color of amber,
808
00:44:21,116 --> 00:44:22,993
out of the midst of the fire."
809
00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,746
What was it that Ezekiel was seeing?
810
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:28,499
Not the message part.
I get the message part.
811
00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,709
I wanna know what he saw.
812
00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:32,419
"Behold a wheel...
813
00:44:34,046 --> 00:44:35,506
suddenly came to the earth."
814
00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,593
"And the rims were full of..."
815
00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,220
Translate this for me.
816
00:44:41,303 --> 00:44:45,015
"...eyes all the way around."
817
00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:46,809
[girl 2] Eyes or lights.
818
00:44:46,892 --> 00:44:48,352
Lights or...
819
00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:51,522
- [girl 2] Anything, really.
- Windows or... Right?
820
00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:55,526
{\an8}To me, I think that talking about UFOs
with my kids, even the littlest ones,
821
00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:59,113
{\an8}is making Scripture
a lot more real for them
822
00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:00,739
than just a bunch of stories.
823
00:45:00,823 --> 00:45:04,368
This was Switzerland,
and some guy just got this on video.
824
00:45:04,451 --> 00:45:07,079
It's a UFO.
What does that look like, right there?
825
00:45:07,162 --> 00:45:10,332
- [boy 2] It's a wheel within a wheel.
- [Eddy] And that was two days ago.
826
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,376
The Christian populace
827
00:45:12,459 --> 00:45:15,212
does not wanna believe
that any of this is real,
828
00:45:15,295 --> 00:45:18,340
because if it does,
it changes all of their reality.
829
00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:20,509
You know, then, is the Bible just for us?
830
00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:23,470
Or... Or is it for them too?
831
00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:30,227
[Lee Roy] That's...
A million-dollar question is,
832
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:34,690
"Where does life and other planets
and religion fit together?"
833
00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:38,277
If somebody were to ask me,
834
00:45:39,278 --> 00:45:41,196
"Did God make other...
835
00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:45,451
creatures?", I'd say yes.
836
00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:49,121
When Kent was telling us this story,
837
00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:53,542
I was the typical jerk
giving him a hard time, saying,
838
00:45:53,625 --> 00:45:57,004
"Here's a guy
that just saw a flying Dorito."
839
00:45:57,087 --> 00:45:58,213
[Kent laughing]
840
00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:01,425
And when we all looked up
and saw this thing,
841
00:46:01,508 --> 00:46:03,927
all of a sudden, it-it changed us in a way
842
00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:07,639
that we look at both sides
of the story more.
843
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,478
[Lisa] Now when I hear people tell stories
of things they see,
844
00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:14,730
I am not a doubting Thomas.
845
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:17,691
I'm thinking, you know,
"They saw something."
846
00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:20,277
"I know they did
or why would they be saying this?"
847
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:24,865
Of course, psychology today
would tell you that,
848
00:46:24,948 --> 00:46:27,034
hey, if you're experiencing these things,
849
00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:29,328
you're seeing things
in your room at night,
850
00:46:29,912 --> 00:46:31,663
that you're schizophrenic.
851
00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:37,044
Or you have some kind
of other severe mental illness.
852
00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:40,964
And, to me, that's not...
[sighs] That's not correct.
853
00:46:41,048 --> 00:46:42,216
That's not right.
854
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,762
When I made the decision
to talk about this, to leave the Navy,
855
00:46:46,845 --> 00:46:49,807
I was four years away from retirement,
856
00:46:50,307 --> 00:46:53,310
which would have meant,
you know, a pension,
857
00:46:53,393 --> 00:46:55,979
health insurance for the rest of my life.
858
00:46:56,063 --> 00:46:59,274
You know? And I...
I left that all on the table.
859
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:00,943
And I walked away from it
860
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,446
because this isn't just about me, right?
861
00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:07,783
It's not about me at all.
It's about all of us.
862
00:47:08,784 --> 00:47:09,868
[inhales deeply]
863
00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:12,412
[voice breaking] It's about everybody.
864
00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:18,794
[Norma] Don Quixote is
one of my favorite novels.
865
00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:21,588
And, in it, Don Quixote is a madman.
866
00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:24,675
And everything that he sees,
he sees in a different light.
867
00:47:24,758 --> 00:47:26,760
Don Quixote sees these windmills,
868
00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,763
but in his mind, they're not, uh...
869
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,515
They're not windmills. They're giants.
870
00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:33,141
We know that we're not mad.
871
00:47:33,225 --> 00:47:35,477
We know that there is
something credible to this
872
00:47:35,561 --> 00:47:39,314
because too many people saw
these, uh, lights in the sky.
873
00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:42,401
And so, um... We're-We're not...
874
00:47:42,484 --> 00:47:45,153
We're not a Don Quixote.
There's-There's more to this.
875
00:47:46,947 --> 00:47:49,408
[Robert] You can argue,
"Well, it was some secret
876
00:47:49,491 --> 00:47:52,035
US black project, right?"
877
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,747
But our technologies
don't just suddenly leap
878
00:47:55,831 --> 00:47:59,334
across 100 years of-of technology.
879
00:47:59,418 --> 00:48:01,837
Th-They're gradually created.
880
00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:09,261
In this case, I think whatever people saw
was intelligently controlled.
881
00:48:10,012 --> 00:48:13,640
And it was not manufactured
by the United States
882
00:48:13,724 --> 00:48:15,350
or any other nation, for that matter.
883
00:48:19,646 --> 00:48:20,939
So, about nine months later,
884
00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:24,651
I was driving my daughter
to gymnastics in Dublin,
885
00:48:25,277 --> 00:48:27,821
and I saw... [scoffs]...some lights.
886
00:48:30,782 --> 00:48:32,302
I pulled over to the side of the road,
887
00:48:32,367 --> 00:48:34,828
and I just stopped
and looked out my front window.
888
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:38,498
And they kinda were blinking
or kinda coming in and out of focus.
889
00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:41,293
And then they kinda
came together, cohesively,
890
00:48:41,376 --> 00:48:43,378
and... and just sort of disappeared.
891
00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:47,007
I just was so shaken and so shocked.
I thought, "My gosh."
892
00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,593
"I'm seeing what everybody's been
talking about all this time."
893
00:48:49,676 --> 00:48:51,678
[intriguing ambient music playing]
894
00:48:53,513 --> 00:48:56,808
It felt like the universe was sort of
playing a trick on me, like... [chuckles]
895
00:48:56,892 --> 00:49:00,938
I balked at this story so hard
in the beginning and for so long.
896
00:49:01,021 --> 00:49:05,609
And then, you know, months later,
it was sort of like, you know, here it is.
897
00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:13,992
I can't believe
all of the wonderful people I've met.
898
00:49:14,076 --> 00:49:16,870
And that's the good of UFO reporting.
899
00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:18,580
I've loved every minute of it,
900
00:49:18,664 --> 00:49:21,792
and I hope that I'm gonna be doing this
for a long time.
901
00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,627
- Thank you.
- [audience applauding]
902
00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:28,924
- [applause fades out]
- [somber music plays]
903
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:34,346
[Sara] If I could talk to Angelia again,
I would tell her how brave she was
904
00:49:34,429 --> 00:49:38,183
for understanding
that there was a story there to be told.
905
00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:42,479
And I certainly wish that, uh,
we had parted ways differently if...
906
00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:44,815
[voice breaks]
My-My biggest regret of all is that.
907
00:49:44,898 --> 00:49:46,900
[somber music continues]
908
00:49:49,486 --> 00:49:51,488
[crickets chirping]
909
00:49:52,906 --> 00:49:54,282
[Steve] Our business suffered
910
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:59,162
because I was chasing
the unidentified object that we saw.
911
00:49:59,246 --> 00:50:03,875
So it put an undue strain
on our relationship and her as well.
912
00:50:03,959 --> 00:50:07,254
And after 17 years
of being together and married,
913
00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:09,131
we ended up getting a divorce.
914
00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,760
My relationship suffered.
My company suffered. I suffered.
915
00:50:14,386 --> 00:50:17,139
I still consider it a blessing
that I did see it,
916
00:50:17,222 --> 00:50:19,516
and it's forever in my mind.
917
00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:23,311
I'm still on my quest, still to this day.
918
00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,605
I will find out what happened.
919
00:50:26,815 --> 00:50:29,985
This is a great big open secret.
920
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:34,906
Nothing I am saying is anything new.
921
00:50:35,532 --> 00:50:39,453
It's just a matter of,
are you gonna believe it or not?
922
00:50:39,953 --> 00:50:42,456
[stirring mysterious music playing]
923
00:51:07,022 --> 00:51:08,398
[music fading out]
924
00:51:08,482 --> 00:51:11,943
- [radio static]
- [stations scrambling]
925
00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,654
[man chatters indistinctly over radio]
926
00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:17,115
[woman 1] A cold glass of Borden milk
will cool you off.
927
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:19,493
When you need a boost, try Borden milk.
928
00:51:19,576 --> 00:51:21,578
[radio stations scrambling]
929
00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:24,831
[indistinct radio jingle plays]
930
00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:25,915
[child] Milk Duds!
931
00:51:25,957 --> 00:51:28,502
- [singing continues]
- [child] Milk Du...
932
00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:30,879
- [radio stations scrambling]
- [radio chatter]
933
00:51:30,962 --> 00:51:34,049
[static crackling]
934
00:51:34,132 --> 00:51:36,301
[woman 1] When you need a boost, try milk!
935
00:51:36,384 --> 00:51:37,427
[man] Okay!
936
00:51:37,511 --> 00:51:40,680
[radio stations scrambling]
937
00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:43,183
[woman 2] Milk's a natural
with the food we like best.
938
00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:44,935
It's too good to leave at home.
939
00:51:45,018 --> 00:51:49,439
- [radio stations scrambling]
- [indistinct chatter]
940
00:51:49,523 --> 00:51:52,567
[man 2] Saturday, and Elsie the Borden Cow
is in her kitchen.
941
00:51:52,651 --> 00:51:54,796
[Elsie] Beauregard,
that cookie would taste even better
942
00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:56,196
with a glass of Borden milk.
943
00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:58,073
- It tastes...
- [static interference]
944
00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:03,537
[man 3] ♪ Fresh is fresh
It's gotta be good, it's gotta be good ♪
945
00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:05,580
[man 4] Try all our dairy products,
'cause...
946
00:52:05,664 --> 00:52:07,958
[static interference]
947
00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,002
[woman 1] You'll like the taste of milk
with everything you eat.
948
00:52:11,086 --> 00:52:13,380
- [radio static]
- [indistinct chatter]
949
00:52:13,463 --> 00:52:14,673
[radio stations scramble]
950
00:52:14,756 --> 00:52:17,801
- [child] Milk Duds!
- [radio jingle] ♪ Milk is a natural ♪
951
00:52:17,884 --> 00:52:20,804
- [radio static]
- [indistinct chatter]
952
00:52:20,887 --> 00:52:25,225
- [high-pitched tuning tones whizzing]
- [chatter continues]
953
00:52:25,308 --> 00:52:26,852
[static crackling]
81364
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