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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:09,426 [birds twittering] 2 00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:10,635 [swing squeaking] 3 00:00:10,719 --> 00:00:12,637 [chicken clucking] 4 00:00:13,638 --> 00:00:14,973 [vehicle approaches] 5 00:00:22,105 --> 00:00:24,983 [man 1] When we first moved here in March of 2020... 6 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:31,322 the very first time that I saw something in the sky, 7 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:33,950 I really hesitated to say anything to anybody. 8 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:36,953 But it happened repetitively, maybe three, four times, 9 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:39,039 before I mentioned it to somebody down in Dublin. 10 00:00:39,122 --> 00:00:42,167 They said, "Well, you know that this place is famous for that." 11 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:44,085 [intriguing ambient music playing] 12 00:00:44,169 --> 00:00:45,503 Do you know who Ezekiel was? 13 00:00:45,587 --> 00:00:46,796 Prophet? 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,049 - Ezekiel was a prophet. You're right. - [boy] Mm-hmm. 15 00:00:49,132 --> 00:00:52,260 And it was a long time ago, all right? 16 00:00:52,343 --> 00:00:54,095 As a Homeland Security consultant, 17 00:00:54,179 --> 00:00:57,807 I do a lot of threat analyst work, uh, for the government. 18 00:00:58,391 --> 00:01:01,269 I've seen the government flat-out lie. 19 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:04,856 Where I was standing in the location they were lying about. 20 00:01:06,274 --> 00:01:09,527 What I am seeing here is similar 21 00:01:09,611 --> 00:01:12,405 to sightings that they had by the guys in the Air Force. 22 00:01:14,365 --> 00:01:15,992 [man 2, over radio] Whoa! Got it! 23 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:16,993 [laughs] 24 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:19,197 [man 1] It's the movement that catches your attention, 25 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:20,080 that fast movement. 26 00:01:20,163 --> 00:01:22,165 That's exactly how we're seeing it here. 27 00:01:22,248 --> 00:01:24,250 [intriguing music continues] 28 00:01:25,460 --> 00:01:28,546 - [girl] Ah, jeez. [laughs] - [chuckles] I know, right? Spooky. 29 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:32,175 It's something otherworldly. There's no other way to describe that. 30 00:01:32,258 --> 00:01:36,096 "And the star they had seen guided them to Bethlehem." 31 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:38,640 One of the reasons why a lot of people don't believe 32 00:01:38,723 --> 00:01:41,351 is because they haven't seen it, 33 00:01:41,434 --> 00:01:46,523 and it messes with their concept of who we are in relation to the universe. 34 00:01:47,023 --> 00:01:49,526 ...and it guided them, so it knew where it was going. 35 00:01:50,235 --> 00:01:51,402 - Right? - [boy] Mm-hmm. 36 00:01:51,486 --> 00:01:53,071 That mean... That means it was... 37 00:01:53,655 --> 00:01:54,655 UFO. 38 00:01:55,073 --> 00:01:56,282 UFO. 39 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:01,496 Do I believe there's life on other planets? Yes. 40 00:02:01,579 --> 00:02:04,290 But I don't think these are people from another planet. 41 00:02:04,374 --> 00:02:06,918 I still think these are what people called angels. 42 00:02:08,002 --> 00:02:09,587 I think they're messengers. 43 00:02:10,171 --> 00:02:12,340 I mean, I'm dying to know what they've got to say. 44 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:16,469 [eerie music playing] 45 00:02:18,638 --> 00:02:20,515 [man 1] From the beginning of recorded time, 46 00:02:20,598 --> 00:02:23,518 men have been seeing unexplainable things in the sky. 47 00:02:23,601 --> 00:02:25,812 [woman] Are we alone in the universe? 48 00:02:25,895 --> 00:02:29,399 [man 2] Somewhere in the data will be something worth real inquiry. 49 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,359 We have not been hiding anything. 50 00:02:31,442 --> 00:02:33,444 There are such things as interplanetary spaceships. 51 00:02:33,528 --> 00:02:36,072 I thought it was an alien, and he had big eyes. 52 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:39,159 [man 3] There's something profoundly important going on here 53 00:02:39,242 --> 00:02:40,869 that is authentic and real. 54 00:02:48,376 --> 00:02:49,836 [music fading out] 55 00:03:11,482 --> 00:03:13,735 [interviewer] How much of your work is classified? 56 00:03:14,611 --> 00:03:15,820 All of it. 57 00:03:15,904 --> 00:03:19,115 Eh, all of... Everything I did, all day long, was classified. 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,200 All of it. 59 00:03:21,784 --> 00:03:23,745 {\an8}My name is Matthew Roberts. 60 00:03:23,828 --> 00:03:29,584 {\an8}I was a cryptologic technician in the US Navy for 16 years. 61 00:03:31,377 --> 00:03:34,589 I was present on the USS Theodore Roosevelt 62 00:03:34,672 --> 00:03:35,965 for the Gimbal event. 63 00:03:36,049 --> 00:03:37,550 {\an8}[pilot 1] Look at that thing, dude. 64 00:03:38,676 --> 00:03:40,303 {\an8}[Matthew] So, uh... [sighs] 65 00:03:40,386 --> 00:03:43,723 {\an8}...that was the first time I saw the Gimbal footage. 66 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:47,828 - [pilot 2] Well, if there's... - [pilot 1] Look at this thing! 67 00:03:47,852 --> 00:03:48,853 [pilot 2] It's rotating. 68 00:03:50,772 --> 00:03:52,982 I don't... I can't even describe the shape. 69 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,652 I mean, it looks a little bit disc-like. 70 00:03:55,735 --> 00:03:57,320 It's flying along, 71 00:03:57,403 --> 00:04:00,406 and then it kind of tilts up onto its side. 72 00:04:00,490 --> 00:04:02,617 [suspenseful pulsating music playing] 73 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,077 I was watching this footage, 74 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,331 and I could see no kind of aviation surfaces 75 00:04:08,414 --> 00:04:10,083 that you would expect to see. 76 00:04:10,166 --> 00:04:12,877 Wings, tail, you know, rudder. 77 00:04:12,961 --> 00:04:14,128 There's none of that. 78 00:04:14,212 --> 00:04:15,838 So I couldn't really make sense 79 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:20,051 of why this thing was kind of up in the air like it was. 80 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:21,135 And... 81 00:04:22,303 --> 00:04:23,179 I just... 82 00:04:23,263 --> 00:04:27,350 I had this kind of emotional response to it. 83 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:32,689 And I... At the time, I didn't understand that. Um... 84 00:04:34,148 --> 00:04:36,234 I knew that it wasn't ours, right? 85 00:04:36,317 --> 00:04:40,697 I knew that it wasn't anybody else's. Uh... 86 00:04:43,741 --> 00:04:49,622 So, I mean, that only leaves... one other option, I think. 87 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,211 - [interviewer] Which is what? - And that's non-human tech. 88 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:57,588 Non-human intelligence technology. 89 00:04:58,881 --> 00:05:01,050 [pulsating music continues] 90 00:05:02,468 --> 00:05:08,266 [Matthew] Because my job was classified, and I had access to classified, um... 91 00:05:08,349 --> 00:05:09,851 I was kind of aware... 92 00:05:11,227 --> 00:05:14,564 this was not a one-off event for the Navy. 93 00:05:14,647 --> 00:05:18,609 This, uh... These things happen frequently. 94 00:05:18,693 --> 00:05:20,236 [music fading out] 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,321 All the time. 96 00:05:22,071 --> 00:05:23,448 They happen all the time. 97 00:05:41,382 --> 00:05:44,635 - [radio static crackling] - [distorted voices over radio] 98 00:05:44,719 --> 00:05:48,264 [reporter] The skies over Stephenville haven't looked the same since a UFO... 99 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:50,224 [radio static crackling] 100 00:05:50,308 --> 00:05:52,560 [distorted radio jingle plays] 101 00:05:52,643 --> 00:05:53,686 [woman 1] Milk Duds! 102 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:56,564 [woman 2] A nice, cold glass of Borden milk will cool you off. 103 00:05:56,647 --> 00:05:59,192 You'll like the taste of milk with everything you eat. 104 00:05:59,275 --> 00:06:02,028 - [radio jingle] ♪ Milk is a natural ♪ - [static crackles] 105 00:06:02,111 --> 00:06:03,321 [milk sloshing] 106 00:06:04,489 --> 00:06:06,240 [cows mooing] 107 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:13,539 [man] Stephenville, Texas. The milk capital of the world. 108 00:06:13,623 --> 00:06:16,209 They put out quite a bit of milk over there. 109 00:06:16,292 --> 00:06:19,420 Something very strange about this area. 110 00:06:20,046 --> 00:06:21,923 I look at the sky quite often. 111 00:06:22,006 --> 00:06:25,551 Wonder what all's out there. Wonder what we don't know about. 112 00:06:25,635 --> 00:06:27,845 [crowd cheering] 113 00:06:28,888 --> 00:06:30,306 [man] I grew up around here. 114 00:06:31,391 --> 00:06:33,726 - [lighter flicking] - [tobacco crackles] 115 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:35,645 Nothing to do in these small towns. 116 00:06:35,728 --> 00:06:38,231 You wanna fight? Sure, go ahead and have a fight. 117 00:06:38,314 --> 00:06:41,609 That same night, we'd go camping or go fishing on the river down there. 118 00:06:41,692 --> 00:06:44,821 So, it was... It's innocent fun. We'd have a good time. 119 00:06:45,738 --> 00:06:46,572 {\an8}[engine rumbles] 120 00:06:46,656 --> 00:06:50,159 {\an8}You know, I've been fascinated with engines of all types 121 00:06:50,243 --> 00:06:52,036 since I can remember. 122 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,081 So much to where I started a trucking company. 123 00:06:55,164 --> 00:06:58,876 And it became quite large, had quite a few people working for me. 124 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,837 [engine rumbling] 125 00:07:03,965 --> 00:07:08,886 I've always owned quite a few motorcycles, boats, airplanes. 126 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:13,391 Just to see how it all works. It's just simply fascinating. 127 00:07:13,474 --> 00:07:16,102 In 2008, I had a great life. 128 00:07:16,185 --> 00:07:18,187 I had a successful business. 129 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:21,691 I guess I'd been married 16, 17 years at that time. 130 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:22,942 [exhales] 131 00:07:23,025 --> 00:07:24,819 Very blessed is all I can say. 132 00:07:26,362 --> 00:07:30,450 But what I saw in the sky that night changed everything. 133 00:07:31,367 --> 00:07:33,369 [suspenseful ambient music plays] 134 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,419 It'd been a long, cold winter. Bad winter. 135 00:07:41,502 --> 00:07:44,130 That was the first day we had a decent day. 136 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:47,717 So we came out here to the top of the hill to have a campfire. 137 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,594 [fire crackling] 138 00:07:49,677 --> 00:07:53,097 It was myself, Mike Odom, and Lance Jones. 139 00:07:53,764 --> 00:07:54,974 Then all of a sudden, 140 00:07:55,057 --> 00:07:57,602 I see some real bright, high-intensity lights, 141 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:01,856 off to the east, headed our way at a high velocity of speed. 142 00:08:03,232 --> 00:08:06,611 The lights were so bright, it was unlike anything I'd ever seen. 143 00:08:06,694 --> 00:08:08,905 It was almost blinding to look at 'em. 144 00:08:09,739 --> 00:08:10,823 Then what amazed me 145 00:08:10,907 --> 00:08:14,285 is there was no wind noise, no engine noise. 146 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:15,661 There was silence. 147 00:08:18,372 --> 00:08:21,876 When it came past us, I developed the most peaceful, 148 00:08:21,959 --> 00:08:24,754 easy feeling I think I've ever had in my life. 149 00:08:26,255 --> 00:08:28,674 It was almost like a religious experience. 150 00:08:29,425 --> 00:08:32,595 Like I was at one with whatever it was. 151 00:08:32,678 --> 00:08:36,265 Something I've never had before or since then. It was unreal. 152 00:08:38,267 --> 00:08:41,145 And then another brief second, it just simply disappeared. 153 00:08:41,229 --> 00:08:44,273 It didn't streak off or anything. It just disappeared. 154 00:08:45,483 --> 00:08:48,528 And then you could count, one second, two seconds, three seconds, 155 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:51,822 and two F-16s came in hot pursuit. 156 00:08:51,906 --> 00:08:53,491 Full afterburner hanging out. 157 00:08:55,117 --> 00:08:56,702 And in my head, I'm wondering, 158 00:08:56,786 --> 00:08:59,372 "Is it War of the Worlds, or what was going on?" 159 00:09:01,249 --> 00:09:03,543 I got in my car, and I went back to my house, 160 00:09:03,626 --> 00:09:05,294 and my wife says, "What happened?" 161 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:07,588 She could tell I was visibly shaken. 162 00:09:07,672 --> 00:09:09,465 I told her what happened, and she says, 163 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,926 "Whatever you do, don't tell anybody about it." 164 00:09:12,426 --> 00:09:14,554 And she says, "People will think we're crazy." 165 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:17,431 And I said, "Actually, I don't care what people think about us." 166 00:09:17,515 --> 00:09:18,975 "All I know is what I saw." 167 00:09:19,058 --> 00:09:20,601 [telephone ringing tone] 168 00:09:20,685 --> 00:09:25,606 That next day, I called the newspaper, Stephenville Empire-Tribune. "ET." 169 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:27,400 [telephone ringing] 170 00:09:27,483 --> 00:09:30,611 [woman] It had been a slow news day, the day that the UFO story broke. 171 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:31,904 [telephone ringing] 172 00:09:32,822 --> 00:09:34,532 [woman] Angelia Joiner was in the newsroom, 173 00:09:34,615 --> 00:09:36,367 and she had gotten a call from Steve Allen. 174 00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:37,785 And he was a local pilot, 175 00:09:37,868 --> 00:09:41,080 and then he told her that he saw something strange in the sky. 176 00:09:42,206 --> 00:09:45,334 [Angelia] He said something like, "Okay, I really need to tell you something, 177 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:47,837 but I don't want you to think I'm crazy." 178 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,967 {\an8}And he began telling me a story that, uh, I found pretty incredible. 179 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:56,345 {\an8}Angelia had a brief conversation with him and came to my office and said, 180 00:09:56,429 --> 00:09:57,781 {\an8}"You'll never believe this, but..." 181 00:09:57,805 --> 00:10:01,017 It was late in the afternoon, and we really had our stories together. 182 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:03,269 So I was like, "Yeah, sure, check it out." 183 00:10:03,352 --> 00:10:05,552 "We'll talk about it tomorrow when I get to the office." 184 00:10:08,983 --> 00:10:11,861 I grew up in California. I got engaged. 185 00:10:11,944 --> 00:10:15,031 And my husband was in the dairy business, and his family had come out here. 186 00:10:15,114 --> 00:10:17,116 So we got married and we moved. 187 00:10:18,576 --> 00:10:21,078 It was a startling change for me. 188 00:10:23,789 --> 00:10:27,460 As managing editor, I was responsible for all of the content. 189 00:10:27,543 --> 00:10:28,461 I had a lot to prove. 190 00:10:28,544 --> 00:10:30,755 I was the youngest editor 191 00:10:30,838 --> 00:10:33,358 that had ever been hired to be the managing editor of the paper. 192 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:35,343 I was the second female. 193 00:10:35,426 --> 00:10:37,678 And I was still seen as an outsider. 194 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:42,850 So, inside, I was dealing with a lot of insecurity, I think. 195 00:10:46,312 --> 00:10:49,398 The next morning, I picked up my paper 196 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:54,028 and saw "UFO" in huge font across the top of the paper. 197 00:10:55,404 --> 00:10:58,324 I just felt like the wind was just completely knocked out of me. 198 00:10:58,407 --> 00:11:00,618 I thought, "This is the end of my career." 199 00:11:00,701 --> 00:11:02,578 "Steve Allen, Mike Odom, and Lance Jones 200 00:11:02,662 --> 00:11:05,539 were out admiring a beautiful Texas sunset Tuesday evening 201 00:11:05,623 --> 00:11:08,376 when they saw something none of them can explain." 202 00:11:08,459 --> 00:11:09,659 I had a publisher at the time, 203 00:11:09,710 --> 00:11:12,171 and she told Angelia, "You're going with this tonight." 204 00:11:12,254 --> 00:11:13,964 And she changed the whole front page. 205 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:17,218 She was the boss, the top dog, so she did whatever she wanted. 206 00:11:17,301 --> 00:11:18,803 But I was in charge of the newsroom, 207 00:11:18,886 --> 00:11:21,972 and so I felt like people were gonna question my credibility. 208 00:11:22,056 --> 00:11:23,224 My news judgment. 209 00:11:23,307 --> 00:11:25,893 "The ship wasn't really visible and it was totally silent, 210 00:11:26,477 --> 00:11:28,562 but the lights spanned a mile-and-a-half long 211 00:11:28,646 --> 00:11:30,189 and a mile-and-a-half wide." 212 00:11:30,898 --> 00:11:32,316 That really sent me over the edge. 213 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,652 I mean, aside from the headline, just "the ship." 214 00:11:34,735 --> 00:11:36,487 Like, we were naturally assuming 215 00:11:36,570 --> 00:11:38,781 that this was some kind of a spaceship out there. 216 00:11:40,324 --> 00:11:43,786 When I walked through those doors, I was like a crazy woman. I was furious. 217 00:11:43,869 --> 00:11:47,873 Walking into the publisher's office, and I was screaming and crying. [chuckles] 218 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:49,810 I mean, like, "You have..." "What have you done?" 219 00:11:49,834 --> 00:11:51,335 She was like, "Well, you're wrong." 220 00:11:51,419 --> 00:11:53,629 "You are... you're absolutely wrong about all of this." 221 00:11:53,713 --> 00:11:56,507 "We've sold out every newspaper in the county." 222 00:11:58,634 --> 00:12:02,930 {\an8}[man] When I started reading the story, my brain just goes 100 miles an hour. 223 00:12:03,431 --> 00:12:07,309 {\an8}I thought to myself, "Man, what I saw, other people saw it." 224 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:10,354 You know, "Do I tell anybody? What do I do?" 225 00:12:10,438 --> 00:12:12,440 [suspenseful pulsating music playing] 226 00:12:17,361 --> 00:12:21,574 [Lee Roy] It was my wife's birthday, and we wanted to rent a movie. 227 00:12:22,158 --> 00:12:25,411 And I came outside to my squad car 228 00:12:25,494 --> 00:12:26,871 to get my credit card. 229 00:12:28,497 --> 00:12:29,832 As I'm walking back, 230 00:12:30,374 --> 00:12:32,501 something caught my attention. 231 00:12:33,669 --> 00:12:35,755 I saw what appeared... 232 00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:38,132 I-I call it a bubble or an orb. 233 00:12:39,008 --> 00:12:42,553 It was a, uh, reddish-orange, fiery-looking color. 234 00:12:42,636 --> 00:12:43,763 Really big. 235 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:46,015 And I focused in on it. 236 00:12:46,766 --> 00:12:48,476 And that's when I noticed... 237 00:12:50,144 --> 00:12:52,521 my little boy, and he said, "Look, Dad." 238 00:12:54,398 --> 00:12:56,525 There was these bright lights, 239 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:59,111 flashing, like a pulsating thing. 240 00:12:59,195 --> 00:13:00,195 Like that. 241 00:13:01,197 --> 00:13:02,364 They had spread out. 242 00:13:03,365 --> 00:13:06,619 There was 11 or 12 lights that I was able to count. 243 00:13:07,536 --> 00:13:08,662 All of a sudden, 244 00:13:08,746 --> 00:13:12,583 these things just shoot off at a blazing speed. 245 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:17,004 Well, it was probably what seemed to be maybe a minute or two, uh, 246 00:13:17,755 --> 00:13:19,256 I hear jets coming. 247 00:13:19,340 --> 00:13:20,257 [jet engines whoosh] 248 00:13:20,341 --> 00:13:25,471 They were flying in the same direction, the same path as these lights. 249 00:13:27,181 --> 00:13:31,227 You know, I think those jets were the same ones that Steve Allen saw. 250 00:13:32,603 --> 00:13:37,274 [Steve] After the newspaper came out, I get the call from Lee Roy Gaitan. 251 00:13:37,358 --> 00:13:39,151 I didn't know him at the time, 252 00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:40,778 but he told me his story, 253 00:13:40,861 --> 00:13:44,198 which, time-wise, matched exactly what ours did. 254 00:13:44,281 --> 00:13:47,827 And I said, "Lee Roy, can you help us out with this a little bit?" 255 00:13:47,910 --> 00:13:49,787 And he said, "No, I can't. I'm sorry." 256 00:13:51,455 --> 00:13:54,917 [Lee Roy] I'm voted in by my peers to protect them, 257 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,752 just like the sheriff is. 258 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:59,630 What are they gonna think, that I'm one of the guys that said, 259 00:13:59,713 --> 00:14:00,756 "I saw these lights"? 260 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,258 I thought it was gonna ruin me. 261 00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:05,761 [Steve] And I said, "I understand," but I said, "Come on, Lee Roy." 262 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,639 "I need somebody with a little credibility to add to it." 263 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:12,059 [Lee Roy] He said, "I saw something special. You did too." 264 00:14:12,142 --> 00:14:14,395 "And I think the world needs to know." 265 00:14:14,478 --> 00:14:18,774 Somebody like Lee Roy Gaitan has a lot to lose. 266 00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:21,402 I have a lot of respect for him 267 00:14:21,485 --> 00:14:24,697 because when I called, he hesitated a little bit. 268 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:26,699 Then he said, "No, I think it's important." 269 00:14:26,782 --> 00:14:29,326 He said that, "What we saw was really different." 270 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:33,289 I just saw some strange lights, traveling at a high rate of speed, 271 00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:34,372 doing some things 272 00:14:34,415 --> 00:14:36,333 that I've never seen anything before in my life. 273 00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:40,212 [Sara] That was, I think, the first big county official 274 00:14:40,296 --> 00:14:43,048 that she was able to get that went on the record with it. 275 00:14:43,591 --> 00:14:45,968 Gave, really, the stories a lot of credibility. 276 00:14:52,224 --> 00:14:54,351 [man 1] When I first heard about these reports, 277 00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:58,230 the first thing that went through my mind, "Okay, something significant happened." 278 00:14:58,314 --> 00:15:01,567 Now, as to what happened, at that point, I didn't know. 279 00:15:01,650 --> 00:15:03,861 But it was definitely worth investigating. 280 00:15:05,029 --> 00:15:06,780 My degree's in chemistry. 281 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:10,200 I was an engineering manager in the semiconductor field. 282 00:15:10,826 --> 00:15:12,494 And for the last 16 years, 283 00:15:12,578 --> 00:15:16,540 {\an8}I have spent my time studying the UFO phenomenon. 284 00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:21,086 {\an8}And my goal has always been to try to bring science to this subject. 285 00:15:22,421 --> 00:15:25,674 MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network. 286 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:28,385 It's an organization 287 00:15:28,469 --> 00:15:30,429 that investigates UFO sightings. 288 00:15:31,388 --> 00:15:32,973 In 2008, 289 00:15:33,057 --> 00:15:35,476 I was the director of research at MUFON. 290 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:40,105 And I remember I was monitoring reports as they came in, 291 00:15:40,189 --> 00:15:43,525 and I suddenly saw over 20 reports 292 00:15:43,609 --> 00:15:46,487 in one geographic area, Stephenville and Dublin. 293 00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:49,156 And I knew then that something unusual had happened. 294 00:15:49,239 --> 00:15:51,116 [gripping music plays] 295 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,579 My view at that point in time was, "We need to get there as soon as possible 296 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:59,375 and investigate this while everyone's memory is fresh." 297 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:05,798 [man 2] We were contacted by MUFON, and I'd never heard of MUFON. 298 00:16:05,881 --> 00:16:08,425 But they wanted to set up an investigation. 299 00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:11,095 And so we said, "Well, we've got the Rotary building, 300 00:16:11,178 --> 00:16:13,222 and-and you're welcome to come in here." 301 00:16:15,265 --> 00:16:18,560 I'm chairman of the board of the First National Bank of Dublin. 302 00:16:20,104 --> 00:16:24,858 My grandfather was mayor of Dublin in the '30s. 303 00:16:24,942 --> 00:16:27,653 And then my, um, dad was mayor. 304 00:16:27,736 --> 00:16:29,446 My brother was mayor. 305 00:16:29,530 --> 00:16:34,076 {\an8}So, yeah, we've been in Erath County, in this area, for a long time. 306 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:36,996 [reporter 1] Investigators from the Mutual UFO Network 307 00:16:37,079 --> 00:16:40,207 plan to look into the Stephenville sightings this weekend. 308 00:16:41,458 --> 00:16:45,587 [Pat] I was setting things up, and the guy said, "35 is probably max." 309 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:48,298 "I don't know if we've ever had that many show up." 310 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:51,885 We set up 35, 40 chairs there, 311 00:16:51,969 --> 00:16:53,679 and then the door opens up. 312 00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:56,598 And it's like... It just filled up. 313 00:16:57,307 --> 00:17:00,060 [reporter 2] Hundreds of people crowded Dublin's Rotary Club 314 00:17:00,144 --> 00:17:01,145 to share their stories. 315 00:17:01,228 --> 00:17:05,190 What I saw was a very large blue light. 316 00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:06,567 These were big, round objects. 317 00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:09,611 You can't see through it. You can't see in it. 318 00:17:09,695 --> 00:17:11,947 It was going so fast, and it didn't make any noise. 319 00:17:12,031 --> 00:17:13,871 - [static crackles] - [suspenseful music plays] 320 00:17:13,907 --> 00:17:15,409 [indistinct chatter] 321 00:17:15,492 --> 00:17:17,077 [Robert] The building was packed. 322 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:19,663 There were people even outside on the sidewalk. 323 00:17:19,747 --> 00:17:23,250 Some of the people who had come, they just turned around and walked off. 324 00:17:23,333 --> 00:17:26,295 They didn't even want to deal with the number of people there. 325 00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:28,505 [reporter 3] At least 500 people filled the room. 326 00:17:28,589 --> 00:17:30,174 Witnesses who saw the light. 327 00:17:30,674 --> 00:17:32,926 [Pat] The MUFON folks were kinda just taken aback 328 00:17:33,010 --> 00:17:35,637 because they've never seen anything like this. 329 00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:38,265 [man 3] In an extremely small number of cases 330 00:17:38,348 --> 00:17:40,267 will we get a mass sighting like this. 331 00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:42,019 We put all those chairs out, 332 00:17:42,102 --> 00:17:45,689 and there were still people standing around the room. 333 00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:48,317 All right, if I could see a show of hands who the witnesses are. 334 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,445 [Pat] It was like everybody there had seen something. 335 00:17:51,528 --> 00:17:53,322 We're approaching a hundred people, probably, 336 00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:56,158 that have seen something in regard to this. 337 00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:59,161 [Robert] The Houston papers are there, the Dallas papers, 338 00:17:59,244 --> 00:18:01,497 the papers from outside of Texas. 339 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:03,874 The best way I can describe it was a media circus. 340 00:18:05,250 --> 00:18:07,503 [Sara] The next day or two, we were just inundated 341 00:18:07,586 --> 00:18:09,755 with media from all over the country. 342 00:18:09,838 --> 00:18:11,882 Dozens of people in a small Texas town 343 00:18:11,965 --> 00:18:14,384 are talking about some unexpected visitors. 344 00:18:14,468 --> 00:18:16,428 - Do you guys believe in UFOs? - Yes. 345 00:18:16,512 --> 00:18:17,721 - I think it's possible. - Yes. 346 00:18:17,805 --> 00:18:20,891 I realized that the entire city had totally transformed. 347 00:18:20,974 --> 00:18:22,559 [horn blares] 348 00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:25,020 [reporter 4] Skies over Stephenville haven't looked the same 349 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:29,399 since a UFO reportedly made tracks across it January 8th. 350 00:18:29,483 --> 00:18:31,610 [reporter 5] Stephenville, the North Texas town, 351 00:18:31,693 --> 00:18:33,237 is swept up in UFO mania. 352 00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:36,824 [Steve] They had Japanese film crews, Brazilian film crews. 353 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:40,828 The Japanese film crews asked, "Why does it keep coming to Stephenville?" 354 00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:42,246 Then, jokingly, I said, 355 00:18:42,329 --> 00:18:44,164 "Well, it's the milk capital of the world." 356 00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:46,667 They said, "Oh, they like milk!" 357 00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:49,419 "Da-eerie." 358 00:18:49,503 --> 00:18:54,258 [Steve] No wonder they're kind of gray and sickly-looking. Vitamin D deficiency. 359 00:18:54,341 --> 00:18:55,884 - [violins stab] - [man] Got milk? 360 00:18:55,968 --> 00:19:01,849 [woman] The high school science club designed a T-shirt and made $4,000. 361 00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:03,827 - I can't even believe it. - [marching band plays] 362 00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:06,395 [reporter 5] Aluminum foil hats to ward off alien mind probes. 363 00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:07,688 Nice look, guy. 364 00:19:07,771 --> 00:19:09,971 - [woman laughs] - [Sara] People are having a good time. 365 00:19:10,023 --> 00:19:12,343 It's the most excitement Stephenville's had in a long time, 366 00:19:12,401 --> 00:19:14,278 so it probably won't end here. [laughs] 367 00:19:14,361 --> 00:19:16,071 [band drumming, stop] 368 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:21,302 [Sara] One evening, my husband and I happened to go to dinner, 369 00:19:21,326 --> 00:19:22,870 and it was packed. 370 00:19:22,953 --> 00:19:27,207 And all of a sudden, the TVs came on, and there was... There they were. 371 00:19:27,291 --> 00:19:29,042 [news bulletin music plays on TV] 372 00:19:29,126 --> 00:19:31,446 [man 5] They were dancing around, and they were flickering. 373 00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:35,090 [Larry King] Tonight, strange sights in the night skies over Texas 374 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,176 fuel otherworldly questions. 375 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:42,055 When that came on, there was just a hush. Everybody just was riveted. 376 00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:45,100 [Larry King] Angelia Joiner, staff writer for the Empire-Tribune, 377 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:46,810 who has talked to several witnesses. 378 00:19:46,894 --> 00:19:51,190 Very similar stories from people that have called in and emailed me. 379 00:19:51,273 --> 00:19:55,569 So I think there's been a lot of consistency in the spottings. 380 00:19:55,652 --> 00:19:59,239 [Sara] Angelia did not treat this story like it was a fun-and-games story. 381 00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:01,742 She... She took it serious from the very beginning. 382 00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:05,454 After doing the first story, I did get a little spooked. 383 00:20:05,537 --> 00:20:07,706 I thought, "Oh my gosh, this is bigger than... 384 00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:10,751 than what I even dreamed it could be." 385 00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:16,423 [Pat] It was nice that people were calling me, 386 00:20:16,506 --> 00:20:18,425 going, "Hey, I saw the front page, 387 00:20:18,508 --> 00:20:22,221 and it was saying 'Dublin, '" and it's kinda like, "Wow, that's great!" 388 00:20:22,304 --> 00:20:26,058 But then, at the same time, people... There's some that just love to ridicule. 389 00:20:26,141 --> 00:20:28,810 They love to kinda knock somebody off their horse. 390 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:33,732 There were some, um, radio stations out of Fort Worth came down and... 391 00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:35,943 and basically just to make fun. 392 00:20:36,026 --> 00:20:37,486 - You know? - They took my job. 393 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,530 They took my wife. But they're not getting my pickup truck. 394 00:20:40,614 --> 00:20:44,952 There was people that showed up just to try to discredit these folks. 395 00:20:45,035 --> 00:20:47,829 When one of those little green monsters starts walking up here, 396 00:20:47,913 --> 00:20:49,039 then I'll believe it. 397 00:20:49,122 --> 00:20:52,376 And so, um, when these sightings started taking place, 398 00:20:52,459 --> 00:20:55,963 we saw it, but we didn't really say a whole lot about it. 399 00:21:04,179 --> 00:21:07,557 It was starting to get a little dark. It was about this time of night. 400 00:21:07,641 --> 00:21:10,519 My friend Kent was telling us this story 401 00:21:10,602 --> 00:21:13,689 about something that he saw a few days before. 402 00:21:13,772 --> 00:21:18,360 I looked up, and I'm saying, "Ah, that's just not normal for me." 403 00:21:18,443 --> 00:21:22,572 He saw this, um... this huge, um... 404 00:21:22,656 --> 00:21:24,324 He called it a Dorito. 405 00:21:24,408 --> 00:21:28,120 Looked like a triangle, or I-I said originally a Dorito. 406 00:21:28,912 --> 00:21:32,332 He, um, stands up, and he's stretching his back, 407 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:35,669 and all of a sudden, he goes, "They're back." 408 00:21:35,752 --> 00:21:38,422 And I said, "Who's back?" 409 00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,590 And he just points. 410 00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:44,428 I see this big, triangular vessel. 411 00:21:44,511 --> 00:21:47,055 But what's amazing is there's no sound. 412 00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:48,974 There is no sound whatsoever. 413 00:21:49,057 --> 00:21:53,478 {\an8}I couldn't process what I was seeing because it was huge, 414 00:21:53,562 --> 00:21:55,272 {\an8}and you just look and you think... 415 00:21:56,648 --> 00:21:57,983 {\an8}"What is that thing?" 416 00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,527 And then, all of a sudden, it's gone. 417 00:22:01,528 --> 00:22:03,655 Almost like it just vanished. 418 00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:06,783 I was not scared, 419 00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:09,453 but it was almost where I'm thinking... 420 00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:11,288 beginning to doubt myself. 421 00:22:11,371 --> 00:22:12,789 "Did I even see anything?" 422 00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:14,875 Then it was, like... The next day, it's like... 423 00:22:15,876 --> 00:22:17,210 "Don't tell anybody." 424 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,343 When you sit there and you say, "Yeah, I just saw this... this vessel," 425 00:22:24,426 --> 00:22:28,096 or, "I saw these lights," well, who do we tell about it? 426 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:31,808 And if we did, what kind of flak are we gonna take? 427 00:22:31,892 --> 00:22:33,518 [school bell rings] 428 00:22:34,102 --> 00:22:35,979 [students chattering] 429 00:22:37,105 --> 00:22:41,526 [in Spanish] What we don't understand, we try to explain, 430 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:43,779 but our culture is also very open 431 00:22:43,862 --> 00:22:48,575 to accepting things we cannot see or understand. 432 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:53,246 We do not rely on facts constantly, like here in the US. 433 00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:58,585 The inexplicable does not necessarily mean that it is not reality or fact. 434 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:04,800 [in English] In 2008, what I saw were lights in the sky. 435 00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:08,345 {\an8}But the neat thing about it was that when I saw those, 436 00:23:08,428 --> 00:23:11,108 {\an8}I remembered they were exactly the same as the first time I saw 'em. 437 00:23:11,139 --> 00:23:12,724 {\an8}'Cause I saw them first as a teenager. 438 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:14,810 [eerie ambient music playing] 439 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:23,735 We're originally from Mexico. 440 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,780 And for Christmas break, we were getting ready 441 00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:29,241 to travel to Michoacán, in Mexico, with our family. 442 00:23:30,826 --> 00:23:34,538 My mother, the evening before, was on the dairy farm. 443 00:23:34,621 --> 00:23:36,706 And she says, "I was out there feeding the calves, 444 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:40,377 and these lights were-were appearing up in the sky, like bubbles." 445 00:23:40,460 --> 00:23:42,838 "You know, could it be evil spirits or-or-or something?" 446 00:23:42,921 --> 00:23:45,590 Because we tend to be a very superstitious culture. 447 00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:48,468 And so when she saw those, she was very much startled. 448 00:23:48,552 --> 00:23:49,553 She was afraid. 449 00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:53,223 That next day, we were on our way to travel to Mexico, 450 00:23:53,306 --> 00:23:56,476 we were in our vehicle, already loaded up and-and headed out, 451 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,979 and these lights started coming up. 452 00:23:59,062 --> 00:24:02,649 And then my mom said, "Those are the ones I saw, um, yesterday." 453 00:24:02,732 --> 00:24:06,361 And me and my sister and my other sibling saw those at that time. 454 00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:09,990 It wasn't something that we could explain. 455 00:24:10,073 --> 00:24:12,826 All I know is that what I saw in 1989 456 00:24:12,909 --> 00:24:15,620 was the same thing that, again, I saw in 2008. 457 00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:17,706 [mysterious music playing] 458 00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:21,710 We were coming back from Fort Worth, me and my husband, 459 00:24:21,793 --> 00:24:23,545 about this time in the evening. 460 00:24:24,212 --> 00:24:27,299 We could see the lights up in this area. 461 00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,511 It was like they would bubble in one spot, then bubble in another spot. 462 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:37,642 And it was too fast for any-any... any airplane or helicopter to do. 463 00:24:39,144 --> 00:24:42,939 As we're looking up, I'm hanging out the door with my camera 464 00:24:43,023 --> 00:24:45,775 trying to take pictures of it, 465 00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:50,363 but the camera, it just wasn't fast enough to be... to be able to take those pictures. 466 00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:52,324 Then they were gone. 467 00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:59,206 I do believe that when people come to our area, it's for a reason. 468 00:24:59,289 --> 00:25:02,250 If they're here, why are they here? [chuckles] 469 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:05,670 Today we're-we're gonna be talking about Don Quixote. 470 00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:07,464 Who's familiar with Don Quixote? 471 00:25:07,547 --> 00:25:09,382 I love working with students. 472 00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,593 I've always told them, "You have a mind of your own." 473 00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:14,679 You need to see what information A and information B has. 474 00:25:14,763 --> 00:25:17,682 Not going against their parents or going against, uh, 475 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:19,226 any-any type of doctrine, 476 00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,144 but just to be informed. 477 00:25:22,812 --> 00:25:26,233 [Steve] We was very driven to find out what it was that we saw. 478 00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,652 The more we dug into it, 479 00:25:28,735 --> 00:25:31,404 I kept developing more questions than answers. 480 00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:37,035 I don't have enough nerve to call the NAS, the naval air station. 481 00:25:37,118 --> 00:25:38,870 Angelia, she did. 482 00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,623 She'd called down there and talked to Maj. Carl Lewis. 483 00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:45,961 [Angelia] I called him to check out, 484 00:25:46,044 --> 00:25:48,630 "Were there F-16s in the area?" 485 00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:52,384 He said, "No, we did not have any F-16s in the area." 486 00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:55,027 [reporter] The Air Force says none of its planes were in the area 487 00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:56,513 at the time of the sightings. 488 00:25:56,596 --> 00:25:58,431 [Steve] Angelia told me that. 489 00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:00,767 And he'd come back with all kinds of excuses 490 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:02,602 what we thought we might have seen. 491 00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:06,731 One excuse was a reflection off of a high-altitude jet airliner. 492 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,872 She says, "What do you think about that?" 493 00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,570 And I said, "Is it a reflection off of my shiny white ass?" 494 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:13,780 [tense ambient music playing] 495 00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:16,116 [Angelia] I was really worried about Steve Allen. 496 00:26:16,199 --> 00:26:18,034 You could tell he was just haggard. 497 00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:21,705 His wife told me he was on the Internet constantly, 498 00:26:21,788 --> 00:26:23,832 looking for pictures, 499 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:27,919 trying to find something that looked like what he had seen. 500 00:26:30,422 --> 00:26:33,550 [Steve] I told my wife that several of us was gon' get in our airplanes 501 00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:34,676 and go look for it. 502 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,886 And she, of course, didn't like that idea. 503 00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:40,140 But, you know, it's like telling a-a kid to do something. 504 00:26:40,223 --> 00:26:41,850 We're gon' do what we want to. 505 00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:48,356 Our first thought was, 506 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,692 we hoped we would find where it was based out of. 507 00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:52,027 It appeared out of nowhere. 508 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:54,696 [indistinct chatter over radio] 509 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:58,700 [Steve] So we explored all possibilities. We combed the whole area. 510 00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:00,619 - [chatter continues] - [radio trills] 511 00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,412 [Steve] Then on about the third night... 512 00:27:02,495 --> 00:27:04,164 [radio chatter continues] 513 00:27:04,247 --> 00:27:05,975 ...we was talking to each other on the radio. 514 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:07,667 I said, "Do you guys ever feel like 515 00:27:07,751 --> 00:27:09,461 you're looking for a needle in a haystack?" 516 00:27:09,544 --> 00:27:11,755 - [chatter continues] - [radio trills] 517 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,051 [Robert] What I saw happen in Steve is the same thing I've seen happen 518 00:27:16,134 --> 00:27:17,177 in a lot of witnesses. 519 00:27:17,260 --> 00:27:19,471 You've got this feeling of control. 520 00:27:19,971 --> 00:27:24,184 And then, suddenly, you see something close to you, 521 00:27:24,267 --> 00:27:29,272 and it does something that is so... impossible 522 00:27:29,356 --> 00:27:32,442 that it just shakes the underpinnings 523 00:27:32,525 --> 00:27:35,779 of what they have always thought the world was. 524 00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:38,198 [reporter] Ricky Sorrells was deer hunting in these woods 525 00:27:38,281 --> 00:27:42,577 when he says the UFO stopped and hovered just over his head. 526 00:27:42,661 --> 00:27:45,580 And I did just like this, and I could see it. And it... 527 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:47,916 [Robert] Ricky Sorrells has a very interesting story. 528 00:27:47,999 --> 00:27:50,293 Ricky actually had a UFO sighting 529 00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:54,130 almost two weeks, roughly, before the Stephenville incident. 530 00:27:57,008 --> 00:27:59,719 [suspenseful pulsating music playing] 531 00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:01,596 [Robert] I met Ricky personally, 532 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,307 and he told me the story of-of what happened. 533 00:28:05,517 --> 00:28:06,851 He was out deer hunting. 534 00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,771 All of a sudden, everything got dark, 535 00:28:09,854 --> 00:28:12,023 like clouds had come overhead. 536 00:28:12,107 --> 00:28:15,819 Well, he looked up, and there was an object above him. 537 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:19,447 He couldn't tell its size or its shape 538 00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:24,035 because it was so large that it just covered everything above him. 539 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,039 [Steve] He raised his rifle up and looked at it through the scope, 540 00:28:28,123 --> 00:28:29,791 so he could get a better view of it. 541 00:28:29,874 --> 00:28:33,962 And, uh, he says, "I looked it over, and there was no bolts, no rivets, 542 00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:35,839 and it just seemed seamless all over." 543 00:28:35,922 --> 00:28:37,340 And that's all he could see. 544 00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:40,969 And he says, "I started to go ahead and shoot it," 545 00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:44,180 but he got to thinking, "That wasn't the smartest thing I'd ever done." 546 00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:47,642 [reporter] Sorrells didn't want to start an interstellar war. 547 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,937 {\an8}And when it took off, it took off so fast, if I would have blinked, 548 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:52,397 {\an8}I would have thought it vanished. 549 00:28:52,897 --> 00:28:55,191 He said, "You know, the amazing thing 550 00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:58,987 is that this huge object that took off at such a high speed, 551 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:01,281 it should have just sucked me right along with it." 552 00:29:01,364 --> 00:29:04,993 And he said, "There was nothing. No sound, no wind. Nothing." 553 00:29:05,076 --> 00:29:09,539 Somehow that object didn't interact with the atmosphere. 554 00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:12,292 [music fading out] 555 00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:17,839 [Lee Roy] There was one morning, uh, Ricky came to my house, 556 00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:19,424 and Ricky's in tears. 557 00:29:20,133 --> 00:29:22,260 I asked him, "Man, what's going on?" 558 00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:24,703 He said, "Lee Roy, people are harassing me at my own house." 559 00:29:27,056 --> 00:29:29,476 "Who's harassing you?" He said, "I don't know." 560 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,479 He said, "They tell me that they, uh, work for the government." 561 00:29:32,562 --> 00:29:33,897 [tense music plays] 562 00:29:34,814 --> 00:29:37,150 [Steve] Ricky was definitely being intimidated. 563 00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:48,870 He found a bullet. It was definitely military-grade. 564 00:29:49,704 --> 00:29:52,081 He thinks they may have left that on purpose 565 00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:54,709 to persuade him not to be speaking about it. 566 00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,754 The next thing I know, um, he is calling me. 567 00:29:57,837 --> 00:30:00,882 He said, "Something's going on. Somebody's bothering me." 568 00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:02,085 [helicopter blades whirring] 569 00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:05,678 "I'm having all these helicopters flying over my place." 570 00:30:06,554 --> 00:30:09,891 "They are running my cattle to death." 571 00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:14,729 And he came to me out of concern for my safety. 572 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:18,191 {\an8}[Larry King] Angelia, assuming that Ricky is not nuts, 573 00:30:18,274 --> 00:30:20,235 {\an8}uh, what do you make of this? 574 00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:26,324 {\an8}Well, I feel that perhaps Ricky might have been singled out, 575 00:30:26,407 --> 00:30:31,287 simply because he was the one that had a daytime sighting. 576 00:30:31,371 --> 00:30:34,541 He had more detail than anyone else, 577 00:30:34,624 --> 00:30:38,002 and I wondered if that might be why he was singled out. 578 00:30:38,878 --> 00:30:39,878 And, suddenly... 579 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,466 Ricky stops talking to everybody. 580 00:30:43,550 --> 00:30:48,179 I think Ricky saw a lot more than what the rest of us saw. 581 00:30:48,930 --> 00:30:53,351 [Steve] Ricky has said he saw some sort of something inside the aircraft, 582 00:30:54,018 --> 00:30:58,064 and it resembled some sort of insect or maybe even a praying mantis. 583 00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:06,489 [Lee Roy] I-I-I think that Ricky was possibly approached by someone 584 00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:09,993 and offered a monetary agreement. 585 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,537 They wanted him quiet. 586 00:31:13,746 --> 00:31:16,833 [Steve] A military colonel called me, one afternoon at my house, 587 00:31:16,916 --> 00:31:19,544 and talked to me about an hour and 45 minutes. 588 00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:24,257 Says, "We've had a lot of discussion about you and what to do with you." 589 00:31:24,340 --> 00:31:26,259 "You're kind of a high-profile guy." 590 00:31:26,342 --> 00:31:29,637 "If you just happened to come up missing, it'd kinda look suspicious." 591 00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:36,019 {\an8}[pilot 1] They're going against the wind. The wind's 120 knots west. 592 00:31:36,102 --> 00:31:37,353 {\an8}[pilot 2] Look at that, dude! 593 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:42,859 [Matthew] I found myself watching the footage over and over again, 594 00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:44,903 almost obsessively. 595 00:31:46,529 --> 00:31:47,697 I had no awareness 596 00:31:47,780 --> 00:31:52,327 of what the upper chain of command was doing with this information. 597 00:31:53,828 --> 00:31:57,874 In 2017, I transferred to the Office of Naval Intelligence. 598 00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,752 {\an8}I was gonna be an analyst there. [inhales shakily] 599 00:32:00,835 --> 00:32:06,758 {\an8}And, um... shortly after I arrived, I, uh... 600 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:12,472 I started to have these follow-on experiences 601 00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:13,806 with the phenomenon. 602 00:32:15,016 --> 00:32:19,812 That was, like, the beginning of seeing non-human entities in my room at night. 603 00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:29,906 I would wake up several times a week, 604 00:32:29,989 --> 00:32:35,495 and I would feel my body kind of sliding across the bed. 605 00:32:35,578 --> 00:32:37,705 And I knew that they were taking me. 606 00:32:38,748 --> 00:32:41,417 I woke up 'cause I felt... 607 00:32:42,543 --> 00:32:45,505 a hand grab my arm right here. 608 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:51,928 So I went to try and raise my hands to my face to wipe the sleep away, 609 00:32:52,011 --> 00:32:55,306 and, uh, I realized I couldn't move. 610 00:32:56,099 --> 00:33:01,521 And I could just see this outline of a shadowy figure with... 611 00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:07,902 you know, a torso, two arms, and a head, standing over me. 612 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:12,615 When I was in the Navy and I saw this footage, 613 00:33:12,699 --> 00:33:15,743 I knew that there was something out there. 614 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:18,621 Right? I knew there was something non-human out there. 615 00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:21,165 So I knew when they started showing up in my room 616 00:33:21,249 --> 00:33:24,544 that... a-all of this was real. 617 00:33:24,627 --> 00:33:28,589 I-I-I had the luxury of knowing that I wasn't going crazy. 618 00:33:29,507 --> 00:33:31,801 Right? I knew what it was. 619 00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:36,180 {\an8}- [radio static] - [indistinct chatter over radio] 620 00:33:36,264 --> 00:33:38,016 {\an8}[pilot 1, over radio] Whoa! Got it! 621 00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:39,100 {\an8}[laughter] 622 00:33:39,183 --> 00:33:40,852 {\an8}- Woo-hoo! - [man] Roger. 623 00:33:40,935 --> 00:33:44,147 {\an8}[Matthew] There's all kinds of sensor evidence, radar evidence. 624 00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:47,191 {\an8}I think that there's enough footage 625 00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:51,571 that if they just released all of it and said, "Hey, this is what we have," 626 00:33:51,654 --> 00:33:53,698 they don't even have to give an explanation. 627 00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:56,951 They can just say, "We don't know. This is what we got." 628 00:33:57,577 --> 00:34:01,122 Um, there would be no... no doubt 629 00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:04,375 as to whether or not the phenomenon is real. 630 00:34:04,459 --> 00:34:06,085 Everyone would know it. 631 00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:08,838 {\an8}The US military is now saying 632 00:34:08,921 --> 00:34:11,924 {\an8}it was fighter jets, not UFOs, that folks were seeing 633 00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:13,968 {\an8}in the Stephenville area earlier this month. 634 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:19,057 [reporter 1] The military now says it was training in the area after all. 635 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:22,602 Ten F-16s over the Brownwood military operating area. 636 00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:26,022 [reporter 2] The military spokesman blames an internal communications error 637 00:34:26,105 --> 00:34:28,107 for giving out false information. 638 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:33,863 [Sara] There was no more new sightings. 639 00:34:33,946 --> 00:34:36,574 We were clearly not gonna get an answer from the government or... 640 00:34:36,657 --> 00:34:37,825 on what this could have been. 641 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:41,120 So unless we have something new and significant to report about it, 642 00:34:41,204 --> 00:34:42,830 we need to get on to other things. 643 00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:46,709 It was a hard thing for Angelia. 644 00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:48,711 She really had a hard time letting go of it 645 00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:50,213 and breaking away from it. 646 00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:53,466 [Angelia] I just couldn't abandon those witnesses. 647 00:34:53,549 --> 00:34:58,387 They were thrust into the limelight just like I was. 648 00:34:58,888 --> 00:35:01,432 Plus, it was shaking them to their very core 649 00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:02,892 about what they had seen. 650 00:35:04,727 --> 00:35:07,146 [Sara] I had given her an assignment, and I had this feeling 651 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:09,899 that she wasn't doing it that day, and she left. 652 00:35:09,982 --> 00:35:12,568 And I got on her computer and discovered some emails 653 00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:15,279 that she had sent saying that the newspaper 654 00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:18,866 and the management here, or me, um, specifically, 655 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,828 I'd gotten pressure to shut it down from the government and the city, 656 00:35:21,911 --> 00:35:23,621 and the city officials. 657 00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:27,375 And I was pretty upset about that, 'cause none of that was true. 658 00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:30,435 [Steve] Very strange story with Angelia. 659 00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:33,422 She came into work one morning, and her computer was gone. 660 00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:37,510 And she says, "Hey, what happened to my computer and my stuff?" 661 00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:39,720 And they told her she didn't work there anymore. 662 00:35:40,763 --> 00:35:43,325 [Sara] Was it a termination? Yes. But she didn't want to be there. 663 00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:44,559 She wanted to continue this. 664 00:35:45,643 --> 00:35:48,146 And that was a story that I was happy to move on from. 665 00:35:50,106 --> 00:35:52,525 If you look at the UFO phenomenon, for... 666 00:35:52,608 --> 00:35:56,988 It's gone on for 75 years in the modern era. 667 00:35:57,071 --> 00:36:02,660 And yet, today, we still don't know much more than we knew 75 years ago. 668 00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:07,874 That's troubling for many in the field of science 669 00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:12,795 because there's no crystal clear, solid evidence. 670 00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,840 And-And that's the mystery of this phenomenon, 671 00:36:15,923 --> 00:36:18,759 is like, "Where is the evidence?" 672 00:36:18,843 --> 00:36:21,345 [slow suspenseful music playing] 673 00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:36,360 [Lee Roy] Three o'clock in the morning, 674 00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:39,739 I'd been out working a moonlighting job in Stephenville. 675 00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,201 There's an alarm call at this business. 676 00:36:44,785 --> 00:36:46,787 I went ahead and advised the sheriff's department 677 00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:49,332 that I was close by and would take the call. 678 00:36:49,415 --> 00:36:51,209 And when I get out of the car, 679 00:36:51,292 --> 00:36:56,672 I look and I see a pulsating orb up in the sky. 680 00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,800 Got my dashcam and positioned it, 681 00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:02,637 trying to videotape this object. 682 00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:05,306 I took the video home. 683 00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:09,685 Uh, back then, it was VHS, and put it in my player at home. 684 00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:11,229 - [VHS tape clacks] - [static] 685 00:37:19,237 --> 00:37:20,404 It was not a clear video. 686 00:37:20,988 --> 00:37:24,408 It was like something was interfering the, uh, quality. 687 00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:26,369 [tense ambient music playing] 688 00:37:26,452 --> 00:37:29,413 I said, "Man, why is this tape messing up, right now of all times?" 689 00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:34,418 I had never had a problem before that with any video. 690 00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:38,005 After that, I used that camera at least another year and a half, 691 00:37:38,089 --> 00:37:39,590 before I went digital. 692 00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,217 Never had a problem like that. 693 00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:44,637 Whatever this thing was, 694 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:49,183 whoever was responsible for it did not want clear footage of it. 695 00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:58,401 I wanted to find corroboration for the object seen by Lee Roy and Steve, 696 00:37:58,484 --> 00:38:02,905 and all the other witnesses, in Stephenville on January 8th, 2008. 697 00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:06,242 I had the witness statements. 698 00:38:06,325 --> 00:38:09,161 I knew the when and the where 699 00:38:09,245 --> 00:38:11,205 and the direction they were looking. 700 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:16,377 At the MUFON event, I met a guy from Colorado, Glen Schulze, 701 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,047 and Glen was a former army radar expert. 702 00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:21,132 [static crackles] 703 00:38:21,215 --> 00:38:26,679 Anything that flies in the sky is caught with what's called primary radar data. 704 00:38:27,179 --> 00:38:28,806 - [radar beeps] - [static crackles] 705 00:38:28,889 --> 00:38:33,853 So I wanted radar data to support what the witnesses had told me. 706 00:38:33,936 --> 00:38:37,940 {\an8}The FAA won't volunteer those returns because they say nothing happened. 707 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:41,277 {\an8}So you have to send a Freedom of Information Act request in 708 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,321 and force them to release the data. 709 00:38:43,904 --> 00:38:47,033 [Robert] I sent FOIAs to every police department, 710 00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:48,993 to every military base. 711 00:38:49,076 --> 00:38:52,747 And the one FOIA that panned out the best was the FOIA to the FAA, 712 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:55,124 which provided me with radar data 713 00:38:55,207 --> 00:38:59,253 from five different radar antennae across the state of Texas. 714 00:38:59,795 --> 00:39:04,592 Glen Schulze and I went four months to go through the radar data. 715 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,639 Before I went looking for any unknowns, first thing I did was track the F-16s. 716 00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:13,517 - [Steve] Two F-16s came in hot pursuit. - [jet engine whooshes] 717 00:39:13,601 --> 00:39:17,229 [Lee Roy] They were flying in the same direction as these lights. 718 00:39:17,313 --> 00:39:21,400 [Robert] These are the two that flew down to Comanche, Dublin, Stephenville. 719 00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,903 So once I identified where the F-16s were, 720 00:39:23,986 --> 00:39:28,532 I went to start looking for objects that did not have transponders. 721 00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:34,747 So I wanted to see everything that was not supposed to be in the sky. 722 00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,166 I get to where Steve is. 723 00:39:37,249 --> 00:39:40,669 So I'm looking there, and do I see any unknowns 724 00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,047 that are popping up that match what he described? 725 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:45,591 [radar pinging] 726 00:39:45,674 --> 00:39:48,052 What I find is radar data 727 00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:53,641 that confirms what Steve Allen and Lee Roy Gaitan have told me. 728 00:39:54,266 --> 00:39:56,644 [Steve] I came out here to have a campfire, 729 00:39:56,727 --> 00:39:59,855 and all of a sudden, I see some high-intensity lights, 730 00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:02,024 headed at a high velocity of speed. 731 00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:04,151 [Robert] Steve is located here. 732 00:40:04,235 --> 00:40:09,907 There are two radar points that showed an object moving without a transponder. 733 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:14,078 [Steve] When we first saw the ship, it was just a few minutes after 6:00. 734 00:40:14,161 --> 00:40:17,373 [Robert] The two data points match the time 735 00:40:18,082 --> 00:40:20,709 and the geographical location. 736 00:40:21,544 --> 00:40:25,297 Does its flame-job over Stephenville, just simply disappears. 737 00:40:25,381 --> 00:40:27,883 This is outside of military operating area, 738 00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:29,552 so it should have a transponder 739 00:40:29,635 --> 00:40:32,221 if it is military aircraft, but it doesn't. 740 00:40:32,304 --> 00:40:34,223 In the case of Lee Roy, 741 00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:37,977 I had about five data points on the radar, 742 00:40:38,060 --> 00:40:41,188 indicating there is this object south of his home. 743 00:40:42,064 --> 00:40:43,691 [Lee Roy] I came outside. 744 00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:48,195 Something caught my attention off-off to the, uh, southwest sky. 745 00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:53,367 All of a sudden, these things just shoot off at a blazing speed. 746 00:40:53,951 --> 00:40:56,871 And they travel, what I say, northeast. 747 00:40:57,872 --> 00:40:59,999 [Robert] When he says it moves to the northeast, 748 00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:03,127 I get a data point ten seconds later 749 00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:07,548 that's to the northeast and is moving at an extreme rate of speed. 750 00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:12,470 It's not very often that you get radar data 751 00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:15,973 that just corroborates exactly what a witness said 752 00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:18,642 in terms of geographic location and time. 753 00:41:18,726 --> 00:41:23,063 It showed it in black and white that there was something flying out there. 754 00:41:23,147 --> 00:41:26,442 And that the speeds that these things were traveling 755 00:41:26,525 --> 00:41:29,778 are, like, speeds that we cannot do here on Earth. 756 00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:32,156 [Robert] These stories check out with the radar data. 757 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,451 So there's absolutely no doubt that there's an object in the sky 758 00:41:35,534 --> 00:41:40,080 and that the object that's in the sky does not have a transponder code. 759 00:41:40,164 --> 00:41:43,417 That tells you that you're... you're dealing with something real, 760 00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:44,502 whatever it is. 761 00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:48,339 - [radio static crackles] - [indistinct chatter over radio] 762 00:41:48,422 --> 00:41:50,382 [woman 1] When you need a boost, try milk. 763 00:41:50,466 --> 00:41:52,051 - [man 1] Okay! - [radio static] 764 00:41:52,134 --> 00:41:54,428 [woman 2] With all the attention of the UFO sightings, 765 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:57,806 Stephenville will no longer be alien to the rest of the world. 766 00:41:57,890 --> 00:41:59,642 - [radio static] - [child] Milk Duds! 767 00:41:59,725 --> 00:42:01,685 - [radio jingle] ♪ Milk is a natural ♪ - [static] 768 00:42:01,769 --> 00:42:05,147 [woman 3] Hundreds of UFO sightings are reported to authorities... 769 00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:08,317 [man 2] If you're interested in UFOs, you might wanna come on out, 770 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,610 if you dare. 771 00:42:09,693 --> 00:42:11,362 - [radio static] - [cow moos] 772 00:42:11,445 --> 00:42:13,447 [unsettling ambient music playing] 773 00:42:15,241 --> 00:42:18,160 [Matthew] Is any of this stuff real? I don't know. I mean... 774 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,122 I think UFOs are just as real as, 775 00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,584 you know, the-the lights in this room or... 776 00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,754 or the cameras that are in front of me. 777 00:42:28,837 --> 00:42:30,130 I think that, uh... 778 00:42:31,257 --> 00:42:35,427 I think they are very real. But I think, what is your idea of reality? 779 00:42:35,511 --> 00:42:36,720 That's the question. 780 00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:41,892 You see that the DOD and NASA, even, 781 00:42:41,976 --> 00:42:44,186 they're all hiring physicists 782 00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:47,731 to work on this UFO issue. 783 00:42:48,566 --> 00:42:52,111 And that's not where the truth of this lies. 784 00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:56,782 This lies more within the realm of the humanities, 785 00:42:56,865 --> 00:43:01,662 within the realm of psychology, uh, philosophy, 786 00:43:02,413 --> 00:43:03,581 religious studies. 787 00:43:04,415 --> 00:43:07,167 Um, that's where you're gonna find the truth of this. 788 00:43:07,251 --> 00:43:11,505 No physicist... is gonna be able to tell you what this is. 789 00:43:13,007 --> 00:43:19,471 Because the physicist maybe can tell you how physical matter might behave, 790 00:43:20,055 --> 00:43:23,267 but the humanities will tell you why. 791 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:27,104 It's not a... It's not a Department of Defense issue. 792 00:43:28,397 --> 00:43:30,941 It's a... It's a human issue is what it is. 793 00:43:34,737 --> 00:43:38,907 And that's why I could not justify being quiet. 794 00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,162 - [children chattering] - [trampoline squeaking] 795 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,248 [man] I've got eight children. 796 00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:52,212 We homeschool our kids, and we've really seen fruit from that. 797 00:43:52,296 --> 00:43:53,547 All right, ready? Up! 798 00:43:53,631 --> 00:43:54,840 [groans] Wuh-uh! 799 00:43:54,923 --> 00:43:56,342 Okay, which one first? 800 00:43:56,425 --> 00:43:59,011 Every day starts out with some type of Bible lesson. 801 00:43:59,094 --> 00:44:00,734 - Ezekiel was a prophet. - [boy 1] Mm-hmm. 802 00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:03,807 - [girl 1] He was in the Old Testament. - In the Old Testament. 803 00:44:03,891 --> 00:44:05,351 So check this out. 804 00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:09,605 "I looked, and behold, a whirlwind was coming out of the North." 805 00:44:09,688 --> 00:44:14,443 "A great cloud with raging fire engulfing itself, 806 00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:16,278 and brightness was all around it." 807 00:44:16,362 --> 00:44:20,240 "And radiating out of it, the color of amber, 808 00:44:21,116 --> 00:44:22,993 out of the midst of the fire." 809 00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,746 What was it that Ezekiel was seeing? 810 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:28,499 Not the message part. I get the message part. 811 00:44:29,208 --> 00:44:30,709 I wanna know what he saw. 812 00:44:30,793 --> 00:44:32,419 "Behold a wheel... 813 00:44:34,046 --> 00:44:35,506 suddenly came to the earth." 814 00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:39,593 "And the rims were full of..." 815 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,220 Translate this for me. 816 00:44:41,303 --> 00:44:45,015 "...eyes all the way around." 817 00:44:45,099 --> 00:44:46,809 [girl 2] Eyes or lights. 818 00:44:46,892 --> 00:44:48,352 Lights or... 819 00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:51,522 - [girl 2] Anything, really. - Windows or... Right? 820 00:44:51,605 --> 00:44:55,526 {\an8}To me, I think that talking about UFOs with my kids, even the littlest ones, 821 00:44:56,110 --> 00:44:59,113 {\an8}is making Scripture a lot more real for them 822 00:44:59,196 --> 00:45:00,739 than just a bunch of stories. 823 00:45:00,823 --> 00:45:04,368 This was Switzerland, and some guy just got this on video. 824 00:45:04,451 --> 00:45:07,079 It's a UFO. What does that look like, right there? 825 00:45:07,162 --> 00:45:10,332 - [boy 2] It's a wheel within a wheel. - [Eddy] And that was two days ago. 826 00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,376 The Christian populace 827 00:45:12,459 --> 00:45:15,212 does not wanna believe that any of this is real, 828 00:45:15,295 --> 00:45:18,340 because if it does, it changes all of their reality. 829 00:45:18,424 --> 00:45:20,509 You know, then, is the Bible just for us? 830 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:23,470 Or... Or is it for them too? 831 00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:30,227 [Lee Roy] That's... A million-dollar question is, 832 00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:34,690 "Where does life and other planets and religion fit together?" 833 00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:38,277 If somebody were to ask me, 834 00:45:39,278 --> 00:45:41,196 "Did God make other... 835 00:45:43,574 --> 00:45:45,451 creatures?", I'd say yes. 836 00:45:46,869 --> 00:45:49,121 When Kent was telling us this story, 837 00:45:49,204 --> 00:45:53,542 I was the typical jerk giving him a hard time, saying, 838 00:45:53,625 --> 00:45:57,004 "Here's a guy that just saw a flying Dorito." 839 00:45:57,087 --> 00:45:58,213 [Kent laughing] 840 00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:01,425 And when we all looked up and saw this thing, 841 00:46:01,508 --> 00:46:03,927 all of a sudden, it-it changed us in a way 842 00:46:04,011 --> 00:46:07,639 that we look at both sides of the story more. 843 00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:12,478 [Lisa] Now when I hear people tell stories of things they see, 844 00:46:12,561 --> 00:46:14,730 I am not a doubting Thomas. 845 00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:17,691 I'm thinking, you know, "They saw something." 846 00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:20,277 "I know they did or why would they be saying this?" 847 00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:24,865 Of course, psychology today would tell you that, 848 00:46:24,948 --> 00:46:27,034 hey, if you're experiencing these things, 849 00:46:27,117 --> 00:46:29,328 you're seeing things in your room at night, 850 00:46:29,912 --> 00:46:31,663 that you're schizophrenic. 851 00:46:32,372 --> 00:46:37,044 Or you have some kind of other severe mental illness. 852 00:46:38,045 --> 00:46:40,964 And, to me, that's not... [sighs] That's not correct. 853 00:46:41,048 --> 00:46:42,216 That's not right. 854 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,762 When I made the decision to talk about this, to leave the Navy, 855 00:46:46,845 --> 00:46:49,807 I was four years away from retirement, 856 00:46:50,307 --> 00:46:53,310 which would have meant, you know, a pension, 857 00:46:53,393 --> 00:46:55,979 health insurance for the rest of my life. 858 00:46:56,063 --> 00:46:59,274 You know? And I... I left that all on the table. 859 00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:00,943 And I walked away from it 860 00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,446 because this isn't just about me, right? 861 00:47:04,530 --> 00:47:07,783 It's not about me at all. It's about all of us. 862 00:47:08,784 --> 00:47:09,868 [inhales deeply] 863 00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:12,412 [voice breaking] It's about everybody. 864 00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:18,794 [Norma] Don Quixote is one of my favorite novels. 865 00:47:18,877 --> 00:47:21,588 And, in it, Don Quixote is a madman. 866 00:47:21,672 --> 00:47:24,675 And everything that he sees, he sees in a different light. 867 00:47:24,758 --> 00:47:26,760 Don Quixote sees these windmills, 868 00:47:27,386 --> 00:47:29,763 but in his mind, they're not, uh... 869 00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,515 They're not windmills. They're giants. 870 00:47:31,598 --> 00:47:33,141 We know that we're not mad. 871 00:47:33,225 --> 00:47:35,477 We know that there is something credible to this 872 00:47:35,561 --> 00:47:39,314 because too many people saw these, uh, lights in the sky. 873 00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:42,401 And so, um... We're-We're not... 874 00:47:42,484 --> 00:47:45,153 We're not a Don Quixote. There's-There's more to this. 875 00:47:46,947 --> 00:47:49,408 [Robert] You can argue, "Well, it was some secret 876 00:47:49,491 --> 00:47:52,035 US black project, right?" 877 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:55,747 But our technologies don't just suddenly leap 878 00:47:55,831 --> 00:47:59,334 across 100 years of-of technology. 879 00:47:59,418 --> 00:48:01,837 Th-They're gradually created. 880 00:48:04,423 --> 00:48:09,261 In this case, I think whatever people saw was intelligently controlled. 881 00:48:10,012 --> 00:48:13,640 And it was not manufactured by the United States 882 00:48:13,724 --> 00:48:15,350 or any other nation, for that matter. 883 00:48:19,646 --> 00:48:20,939 So, about nine months later, 884 00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:24,651 I was driving my daughter to gymnastics in Dublin, 885 00:48:25,277 --> 00:48:27,821 and I saw... [scoffs]...some lights. 886 00:48:30,782 --> 00:48:32,302 I pulled over to the side of the road, 887 00:48:32,367 --> 00:48:34,828 and I just stopped and looked out my front window. 888 00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:38,498 And they kinda were blinking or kinda coming in and out of focus. 889 00:48:38,582 --> 00:48:41,293 And then they kinda came together, cohesively, 890 00:48:41,376 --> 00:48:43,378 and... and just sort of disappeared. 891 00:48:44,421 --> 00:48:47,007 I just was so shaken and so shocked. I thought, "My gosh." 892 00:48:47,090 --> 00:48:49,593 "I'm seeing what everybody's been talking about all this time." 893 00:48:49,676 --> 00:48:51,678 [intriguing ambient music playing] 894 00:48:53,513 --> 00:48:56,808 It felt like the universe was sort of playing a trick on me, like... [chuckles] 895 00:48:56,892 --> 00:49:00,938 I balked at this story so hard in the beginning and for so long. 896 00:49:01,021 --> 00:49:05,609 And then, you know, months later, it was sort of like, you know, here it is. 897 00:49:10,697 --> 00:49:13,992 I can't believe all of the wonderful people I've met. 898 00:49:14,076 --> 00:49:16,870 And that's the good of UFO reporting. 899 00:49:16,954 --> 00:49:18,580 I've loved every minute of it, 900 00:49:18,664 --> 00:49:21,792 and I hope that I'm gonna be doing this for a long time. 901 00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,627 - Thank you. - [audience applauding] 902 00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:28,924 - [applause fades out] - [somber music plays] 903 00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:34,346 [Sara] If I could talk to Angelia again, I would tell her how brave she was 904 00:49:34,429 --> 00:49:38,183 for understanding that there was a story there to be told. 905 00:49:38,266 --> 00:49:42,479 And I certainly wish that, uh, we had parted ways differently if... 906 00:49:42,562 --> 00:49:44,815 [voice breaks] My-My biggest regret of all is that. 907 00:49:44,898 --> 00:49:46,900 [somber music continues] 908 00:49:49,486 --> 00:49:51,488 [crickets chirping] 909 00:49:52,906 --> 00:49:54,282 [Steve] Our business suffered 910 00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:59,162 because I was chasing the unidentified object that we saw. 911 00:49:59,246 --> 00:50:03,875 So it put an undue strain on our relationship and her as well. 912 00:50:03,959 --> 00:50:07,254 And after 17 years of being together and married, 913 00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:09,131 we ended up getting a divorce. 914 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,760 My relationship suffered. My company suffered. I suffered. 915 00:50:14,386 --> 00:50:17,139 I still consider it a blessing that I did see it, 916 00:50:17,222 --> 00:50:19,516 and it's forever in my mind. 917 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:23,311 I'm still on my quest, still to this day. 918 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:25,605 I will find out what happened. 919 00:50:26,815 --> 00:50:29,985 This is a great big open secret. 920 00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:34,906 Nothing I am saying is anything new. 921 00:50:35,532 --> 00:50:39,453 It's just a matter of, are you gonna believe it or not? 922 00:50:39,953 --> 00:50:42,456 [stirring mysterious music playing] 923 00:51:07,022 --> 00:51:08,398 [music fading out] 924 00:51:08,482 --> 00:51:11,943 - [radio static] - [stations scrambling] 925 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,654 [man chatters indistinctly over radio] 926 00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:17,115 [woman 1] A cold glass of Borden milk will cool you off. 927 00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:19,493 When you need a boost, try Borden milk. 928 00:51:19,576 --> 00:51:21,578 [radio stations scrambling] 929 00:51:22,913 --> 00:51:24,831 [indistinct radio jingle plays] 930 00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:25,915 [child] Milk Duds! 931 00:51:25,957 --> 00:51:28,502 - [singing continues] - [child] Milk Du... 932 00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:30,879 - [radio stations scrambling] - [radio chatter] 933 00:51:30,962 --> 00:51:34,049 [static crackling] 934 00:51:34,132 --> 00:51:36,301 [woman 1] When you need a boost, try milk! 935 00:51:36,384 --> 00:51:37,427 [man] Okay! 936 00:51:37,511 --> 00:51:40,680 [radio stations scrambling] 937 00:51:40,764 --> 00:51:43,183 [woman 2] Milk's a natural with the food we like best. 938 00:51:43,266 --> 00:51:44,935 It's too good to leave at home. 939 00:51:45,018 --> 00:51:49,439 - [radio stations scrambling] - [indistinct chatter] 940 00:51:49,523 --> 00:51:52,567 [man 2] Saturday, and Elsie the Borden Cow is in her kitchen. 941 00:51:52,651 --> 00:51:54,796 [Elsie] Beauregard, that cookie would taste even better 942 00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:56,196 with a glass of Borden milk. 943 00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:58,073 - It tastes... - [static interference] 944 00:51:59,366 --> 00:52:03,537 [man 3] ♪ Fresh is fresh It's gotta be good, it's gotta be good ♪ 945 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:05,580 [man 4] Try all our dairy products, 'cause... 946 00:52:05,664 --> 00:52:07,958 [static interference] 947 00:52:08,041 --> 00:52:11,002 [woman 1] You'll like the taste of milk with everything you eat. 948 00:52:11,086 --> 00:52:13,380 - [radio static] - [indistinct chatter] 949 00:52:13,463 --> 00:52:14,673 [radio stations scramble] 950 00:52:14,756 --> 00:52:17,801 - [child] Milk Duds! - [radio jingle] ♪ Milk is a natural ♪ 951 00:52:17,884 --> 00:52:20,804 - [radio static] - [indistinct chatter] 952 00:52:20,887 --> 00:52:25,225 - [high-pitched tuning tones whizzing] - [chatter continues] 953 00:52:25,308 --> 00:52:26,852 [static crackling] 81364

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