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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,288 --> 00:00:07,318 Hey, what's behind this door here? 2 00:00:07,368 --> 00:00:09,687 Let's check out what's behind here. 3 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:15,249 His body was actually housed here, 4 00:00:15,299 --> 00:00:18,130 right in the museum. 5 00:00:18,180 --> 00:00:20,350 So, that's interesting that he was here. 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,930 And his most prized possession is right over there, 7 00:00:22,980 --> 00:00:24,649 which is the peace medal. 8 00:00:28,104 --> 00:00:28,887 Holy... 9 00:00:28,937 --> 00:00:29,937 What the hell was that? 10 00:01:06,570 --> 00:01:08,230 The Buffalo History Museum 11 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,840 began collecting in 1862. 12 00:01:10,890 --> 00:01:14,770 However, it moved to its current location in 1902. 13 00:01:14,820 --> 00:01:16,398 The Buffalo History Museum 14 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,630 has been Western New York's premier historical organization, 15 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,030 collecting and researching the Niagara Frontier's 16 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,590 rich history. 17 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,678 In its collection, 18 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,310 it features more than 100,000 artifacts, 19 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,870 200,000 photographs, 20 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,420 and over 20,000 books. 21 00:01:31,470 --> 00:01:32,261 Hey, Dana. 22 00:01:32,303 --> 00:01:33,303 Hey, hey, guys. 23 00:01:33,330 --> 00:01:35,140 - Hey, Dana. - Dan, Cam. 24 00:01:35,190 --> 00:01:38,080 So, we wanted to meet you here at the workshop, 25 00:01:38,130 --> 00:01:41,230 and just see if you could help us try to explain 26 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,900 what a K2 meter is and what it does. 27 00:01:43,950 --> 00:01:47,230 A K2 meter is, it measures EMF. 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,790 What is EMF? 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,580 Electricity is only referred to as EMF 30 00:01:53,220 --> 00:01:55,300 when there's an open circuit. 31 00:01:55,350 --> 00:01:58,173 Once you close that circuit, it is electricity. 32 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:00,790 And as you know, 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,480 electricity and magnetism is two sides of the same coin. 34 00:02:04,530 --> 00:02:06,090 Yeah, you can't have one without the other. 35 00:02:06,114 --> 00:02:06,905 Right. 36 00:02:06,947 --> 00:02:09,160 The EMF detector closes that circuit, 37 00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:10,990 and measures the amount of electrons 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,060 flowing across a copper wire. 39 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:16,570 So, how does this actually read the EMF? 40 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:19,330 Closes the circuit along a copper wire, 41 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:22,090 and it's sensitive enough to measure the amount of electrons 42 00:02:22,140 --> 00:02:25,540 flowing over that copper wire. 43 00:02:25,590 --> 00:02:28,450 And then with any fluctuations in that EMF, 44 00:02:28,500 --> 00:02:30,340 that ties into a lot of theories 45 00:02:30,390 --> 00:02:33,310 that are directly tied in with ghosts 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,458 and paranormal activity. 47 00:02:34,500 --> 00:02:35,500 Exactly. 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,058 So, it's basically just a circuit board? 49 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:42,280 Right, well, a lot, 50 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:43,600 all this is functioning 51 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:45,877 is to control the lights in it. 52 00:02:45,927 --> 00:02:48,700 But this piece right here is the most important. 53 00:02:48,750 --> 00:02:53,530 This is what measures the flow of electrons. 54 00:02:53,580 --> 00:02:54,363 You see that? 55 00:02:54,413 --> 00:02:56,046 When I turn this on, see how it reads it? 56 00:02:56,070 --> 00:02:57,832 Oh, yeah. 57 00:02:57,882 --> 00:02:58,665 Right? 58 00:02:58,715 --> 00:03:00,190 And these walkie-talkies, 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,930 they're gonna set this K2 meter off. 60 00:03:01,980 --> 00:03:03,100 Oh, yeah, for certain. 61 00:03:03,150 --> 00:03:04,390 That's giving off quite a high- 62 00:03:05,190 --> 00:03:05,973 Exactly, exactly. 63 00:03:06,023 --> 00:03:08,020 High level of electricity in the air. 64 00:03:08,070 --> 00:03:11,740 It emits at such a high level of EMF. 65 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:12,581 That's something you don't want to do 66 00:03:12,623 --> 00:03:13,780 in an investigation. 67 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:15,390 Correct, that's why I do not like these 68 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:17,080 during investigations. 69 00:03:17,130 --> 00:03:17,921 Yeah, I mean, like I said, 70 00:03:17,963 --> 00:03:19,296 you can have a lot of false readings. 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,150 And in order to use a K2 meter in an appropriate way 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,680 in a paranormal investigation, 73 00:03:23,730 --> 00:03:25,746 you really have to know everything about the K2 meter, 74 00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:29,470 and what kind of things will give you a false reading. 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,180 So, when you do get a good reading, 76 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:33,550 you have better data to try to translate 77 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,812 into whether something paranormal is going on or not. 78 00:03:35,862 --> 00:03:37,060 Right. 79 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:39,078 Dana, thanks for giving us a better understanding 80 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,220 of what EMF is and how it relates to our K2 meter. 81 00:03:42,270 --> 00:03:43,810 I think it's time to take this down 82 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:45,130 to the Buffalo History Museum, 83 00:03:45,180 --> 00:03:48,021 and put this K2 meter to test. 84 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,526 Tony, how you doing? 85 00:04:04,576 --> 00:04:05,367 How you doing, Cameron? 86 00:04:05,409 --> 00:04:06,324 Cameron. 87 00:04:06,374 --> 00:04:07,157 - I'm Dan. - Dan. 88 00:04:07,207 --> 00:04:07,990 - Joe. - Joe. 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,831 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 90 00:04:08,873 --> 00:04:10,146 Can you give us a little bit of the history 91 00:04:10,170 --> 00:04:12,336 of the background of the building that we're at right now? 92 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,520 As far as paranormal-wise, I mean, what's going on? 93 00:04:15,570 --> 00:04:16,361 We've had a couple people 94 00:04:16,403 --> 00:04:19,060 that have reported being touched on the shoulder. 95 00:04:19,110 --> 00:04:19,926 Okay. 96 00:04:19,976 --> 00:04:20,767 And I myself, you know, 97 00:04:20,809 --> 00:04:21,600 I've sat in my office a few times, 98 00:04:21,642 --> 00:04:23,202 and you hear kind of phantom footsteps. 99 00:04:23,250 --> 00:04:24,816 You hear voices here and there and, you know, 100 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:26,425 you wonder if someone's in the building with you. 101 00:04:26,449 --> 00:04:27,606 - And ultimately- - And you're by yourself 102 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:28,413 in the building? 103 00:04:28,463 --> 00:04:29,254 You're completely by yourself. 104 00:04:29,296 --> 00:04:30,700 Okay, where in the building 105 00:04:30,750 --> 00:04:32,788 were these people experiencing being touched? 106 00:04:32,838 --> 00:04:34,810 Those stories came from the second floor 107 00:04:34,860 --> 00:04:37,660 in what we call our Native American gallery. 108 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:38,493 Okay. 109 00:04:38,543 --> 00:04:40,599 And then the stories that, the experiences that I've had 110 00:04:40,623 --> 00:04:43,120 have been on the lower level just outside my office. 111 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:44,170 Okay. 112 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:57,430 Okay, so, Tony, I'm looking around here. 113 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,226 Obviously, this is a Native American exhibit here 114 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:00,910 with the museum. 115 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,680 What kind of things have happened here? 116 00:05:02,730 --> 00:05:04,708 A couple years ago, we had two visitors 117 00:05:04,758 --> 00:05:07,600 on separate occasions during one week, 118 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:08,590 come to the front desk 119 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,110 and ask if we had any, you know, paranormal activity. 120 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,246 You know, there's something that happened 121 00:05:12,270 --> 00:05:13,810 that you can't shake. 122 00:05:13,860 --> 00:05:15,040 Yeah. 123 00:05:15,090 --> 00:05:16,330 So, you want, yeah, 124 00:05:16,380 --> 00:05:17,796 so you can get used to it all you want, 125 00:05:17,820 --> 00:05:20,140 but sometimes, you know, the hairs on the back of your neck 126 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:22,240 are definitely gonna stand up, absolutely. 127 00:05:22,290 --> 00:05:25,600 And I was told that Red Jacket, the Indian chief, 128 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:27,700 his body after he died was actually kept here 129 00:05:27,750 --> 00:05:28,600 for a moment of time? 130 00:05:28,650 --> 00:05:31,060 Yeah, the Seneca leader, Red Jacket. 131 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:32,890 His body moved around a little bit. 132 00:05:32,940 --> 00:05:36,340 And prior to being reinterred at a local cemetery, 133 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:38,410 his remains were stored here for a short time. 134 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:39,839 - Okay. - Wow. 135 00:05:39,889 --> 00:05:43,300 We do have Lewis, who is a Seneca Indian on our team. 136 00:05:43,350 --> 00:05:45,730 I think that'd be a great opportunity for him to get in here 137 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:48,887 and see if he can connect with, hopefully, Red Jacket. 138 00:05:48,937 --> 00:05:50,436 - That'd be pretty cool, right? - Right? 139 00:05:50,460 --> 00:05:53,013 Yeah. 140 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,630 Okay, so this is the entrance 141 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,610 to where your office would be backed out in here. 142 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:19,630 Now, you were mentioning 143 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,200 that you had actually had a couple experiences 144 00:06:23,250 --> 00:06:24,640 right in this vicinity? 145 00:06:24,690 --> 00:06:25,473 Right. 146 00:06:25,523 --> 00:06:26,314 There were a couple different occasions 147 00:06:26,356 --> 00:06:28,330 where I'm working late, working on exhibits, 148 00:06:28,380 --> 00:06:30,130 or just catching up on some work 149 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:31,296 around, you know, nine, 10 at night. 150 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,230 And the first time, I'm sitting in my office, 151 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,080 and I heard what sounded like footsteps 152 00:06:38,130 --> 00:06:39,400 coming down the main stairwell. 153 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:40,398 At the time, I wondered, 154 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,250 well, maybe if there might be another woman 155 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:43,091 who had worked here, 156 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:44,500 who came in to work late. 157 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:45,726 So, I didn't really think much of it. 158 00:06:45,750 --> 00:06:47,286 And I heard, when they were coming down the stairs, 159 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:48,486 I heard a woman's voice talking. 160 00:06:48,510 --> 00:06:51,220 So, I automatically, you know, assume 161 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:52,806 you're not gonna think it's paranormal right off the bat, 162 00:06:52,830 --> 00:06:55,780 so I thought it was somebody staying late working with me. 163 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:57,430 I, a few minutes later, 164 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,560 ended up wrapping up my work, leaving, 165 00:06:59,610 --> 00:07:01,720 noticed that the building was still locked down. 166 00:07:01,770 --> 00:07:03,550 No one was here and no one had been here. 167 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,820 So, that kind of, you know, raised my curiosity a bit 168 00:07:06,870 --> 00:07:07,653 at that point. 169 00:07:07,703 --> 00:07:08,736 Ah, just the one time, or was it? 170 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,008 Well, that was the first time. 171 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:13,180 And then recently, just last year, 172 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:14,496 a very similar incident happened. 173 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,056 I was, again, sitting at my desk late at night, 174 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,160 and I heard the same steps coming down the stairwell. 175 00:07:18,190 --> 00:07:19,090 Okay. 176 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:20,620 Now, this time what happened 177 00:07:20,670 --> 00:07:23,313 was that this, you know, walking into this room, 178 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:26,650 there's a very particular noise that you hear. 179 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:28,060 So, when I heard the footsteps, 180 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:29,196 I didn't really think much of it. 181 00:07:29,220 --> 00:07:30,003 There had been, 182 00:07:30,053 --> 00:07:32,290 I'm very comfortable in the building at this point. 183 00:07:32,340 --> 00:07:33,940 So, I stayed, I continued working. 184 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:35,478 And then I heard this thud- 185 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,000 coming down this hollow plank 186 00:07:37,050 --> 00:07:38,330 you walk in to get in this room. 187 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:39,460 The minute I heard that, 188 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:40,806 hair on the back of my neck stood up. 189 00:07:40,830 --> 00:07:41,710 I very calmly got up, 190 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,640 grabbed my bag, and made a beeline for the door. 191 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:46,326 You know, ultimately, there's so much history here. 192 00:07:46,350 --> 00:07:47,470 There's so many artifacts. 193 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,756 If there is somebody here, you know, 194 00:07:48,780 --> 00:07:50,110 we want to know who it is. 195 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,840 Okay, so basically we have three main areas 196 00:07:52,890 --> 00:07:54,370 to try to focus on here tonight. 197 00:07:54,420 --> 00:07:56,110 We have downstairs here, 198 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,550 by Millard Fillmore's carriage 199 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,990 where Tony, you know, 200 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,666 you've had a couple of different experiences 201 00:08:00,690 --> 00:08:01,810 happen to you personally. 202 00:08:01,860 --> 00:08:03,400 I really wanna make sure 203 00:08:03,450 --> 00:08:07,570 that we're looking into the visitors being touched 204 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:08,403 in any way. 205 00:08:08,453 --> 00:08:09,516 You know, we wanna try to figure out 206 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:12,430 if this is something that's reaching out to say something, 207 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,630 who it is, 208 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,030 make sure that we're giving them, you know, you guys, 209 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,080 the comfort that you need to run a museum, 210 00:08:21,150 --> 00:08:23,100 and then bring in the public, you know, 211 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:25,900 without any sort of hesitation. 212 00:08:25,950 --> 00:08:28,660 So, we got a big task ahead of us here tonight. 213 00:08:28,710 --> 00:08:30,580 We got a lot of ground to cover. 214 00:08:30,630 --> 00:08:32,436 I think we should just start getting everything geared up, 215 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:34,240 get the team together, and let's go. 216 00:08:34,290 --> 00:08:35,489 - Awesome. - Alright. 217 00:08:35,539 --> 00:08:37,208 A little spike here. 218 00:08:37,258 --> 00:08:39,757 Could it possibly be Red Jacket? 219 00:08:39,807 --> 00:08:41,600 My K2 just went dead. 220 00:08:41,650 --> 00:08:44,586 Got a fluctuation as soon as you've said that. 221 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:52,240 Wow, this is a pretty impressive place. 222 00:08:52,290 --> 00:08:53,490 Yeah, look at this place, huh? 223 00:08:53,517 --> 00:08:55,000 - Yeah, absolutely. - Wow. 224 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:56,710 So, on our show, 225 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,430 we like to be able to feature certain theories, experiments, 226 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,436 you know, maybe some science involved in paranormal, 227 00:09:02,460 --> 00:09:04,746 and technologies that are on the cutting edge of our field. 228 00:09:04,770 --> 00:09:05,553 Okay. 229 00:09:05,603 --> 00:09:07,603 You, with your show, Ghost Hunters International, 230 00:09:07,650 --> 00:09:09,940 and basically, every other show or paranormal team 231 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:11,410 on the planet, you know, 232 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:16,270 the number one tool used in a paranormalist's arsenal 233 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:21,320 is the EMF fluctuation, a K2 meter, a Mel Meter, a REM POD, 234 00:09:21,810 --> 00:09:22,728 the list goes on and on and on. 235 00:09:22,770 --> 00:09:23,553 Yeah, yeah. 236 00:09:23,603 --> 00:09:25,810 So, why is this such a main staple 237 00:09:25,860 --> 00:09:27,880 in basically every paranormal investigation 238 00:09:27,930 --> 00:09:28,930 on the planet today? 239 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:31,750 Well, I think with a K2, measuring EMFs, 240 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,420 when you walk into a place that's supposedly haunted, 241 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:35,590 that you use the device 242 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,040 so that if people are sensitive to EMFs, 243 00:09:39,090 --> 00:09:41,680 tend to get the feeling of paranoia, 244 00:09:41,730 --> 00:09:44,140 they hallucinate, and they get creeped out. 245 00:09:44,190 --> 00:09:46,840 And we think that eliminating the EMF fields in the place, 246 00:09:46,890 --> 00:09:48,460 getting a base reading 247 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:49,890 will let us fine tune it, 248 00:09:49,940 --> 00:09:51,850 so that when we do investigate, 249 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:53,436 and we do have something that goes higher 250 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:54,258 than the base reading, 251 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:55,330 then you take notice 252 00:09:55,380 --> 00:09:57,820 that there's something could be happening soon, 253 00:09:57,870 --> 00:09:58,653 or what have you. 254 00:09:58,703 --> 00:09:59,486 And the theory 255 00:09:59,536 --> 00:10:02,560 with the electromagnetic field fluctuation itself 256 00:10:02,610 --> 00:10:07,578 is that it's basically directly associated with a ghost 257 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:09,460 per, you know, materializing, 258 00:10:09,510 --> 00:10:10,960 or trying to manifest itself, 259 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:13,540 and giving off this burst of energy 260 00:10:13,590 --> 00:10:15,460 in a fluctuation of electromagnetic field. 261 00:10:15,510 --> 00:10:16,458 I mean, that's the theory, correct? 262 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:17,470 - Yes, it is. - Okay. 263 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,020 And, you know, I don't know, 264 00:10:20,460 --> 00:10:23,380 everything is, emits some kind of EMF, 265 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:25,632 nature does, you know, our equipment, 266 00:10:25,682 --> 00:10:28,540 the TV by your bed, your alarm clock, 267 00:10:28,590 --> 00:10:31,510 they all give off some kind of electromagnetic field. 268 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:33,640 And if, like I said, if people are sensitive to it, 269 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:35,800 and they get bombarded by these things, 270 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:38,080 they could automatically think that in a place like this 271 00:10:38,130 --> 00:10:39,340 that has high EMF, 272 00:10:39,390 --> 00:10:40,338 that it's gonna be haunted, 273 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:42,400 or it's something around the corner, 274 00:10:42,450 --> 00:10:44,440 and the people here want some answers. 275 00:10:44,490 --> 00:10:45,776 - So, there's two sides - Things it could be. 276 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:46,900 - To the story. - Exactly. 277 00:10:46,950 --> 00:10:49,150 Is it the fluctuation of the spirit, 278 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,870 or is it the, whatever this EMF is doing 279 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,330 to the particular individual that's having that experience? 280 00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:56,576 - So, let's put that - Exactly. 281 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,666 - To the test here tonight. - Yeah. 282 00:10:57,690 --> 00:10:59,346 Let's go in, let's start with a base reading, 283 00:10:59,370 --> 00:11:00,161 and see if we can see 284 00:11:00,203 --> 00:11:01,716 what's actually going on here naturally. 285 00:11:01,740 --> 00:11:02,523 - Okay. - Alright? 286 00:11:02,573 --> 00:11:03,573 Let's Go. 287 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:12,520 Just, I'm walking into a 0.3. 288 00:11:12,570 --> 00:11:13,916 You guys getting anything on the Ks? 289 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:15,938 No. 290 00:11:15,988 --> 00:11:16,771 I got a 0.5. 291 00:11:16,821 --> 00:11:19,517 Right, how about the spot where supposedly somebody had- 292 00:11:19,567 --> 00:11:20,567 0.6. 293 00:11:21,476 --> 00:11:23,559 Been touched over here? 294 00:11:25,287 --> 00:11:27,858 Oh, I'm getting a little spike here, up to 1.5. 295 00:11:27,908 --> 00:11:28,746 Are you? 296 00:11:28,796 --> 00:11:29,579 Yep. 297 00:11:29,629 --> 00:11:30,909 If we get something big in here- 298 00:11:31,816 --> 00:11:33,606 With that 1.5. 299 00:11:33,656 --> 00:11:34,716 Yep, that's what I'm getting over here 300 00:11:34,740 --> 00:11:35,740 on this thing. 301 00:11:39,605 --> 00:11:40,663 Not coming through. 302 00:11:40,713 --> 00:11:42,700 Now, this is the peace medal that was given 303 00:11:42,750 --> 00:11:44,763 to Red Jacket by George Washington. 304 00:11:44,813 --> 00:11:45,596 Isn't that cool? 305 00:11:45,646 --> 00:11:46,780 And that is pretty cool. 306 00:11:46,830 --> 00:11:49,210 And, you know, not for nothing, 307 00:11:49,260 --> 00:11:51,010 I mean, his body was kept here. 308 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:51,843 Yeah. 309 00:11:51,893 --> 00:11:52,848 You know, as Tony was telling us. 310 00:11:52,890 --> 00:11:55,750 So, you know, could it possibly be 311 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,210 that, you know, not only for one, his body was kept here, 312 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:01,210 but one of his most prized possessions is kept here. 313 00:12:01,260 --> 00:12:04,450 These people that were touched up here, dare I say, 314 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,774 could it possibly be Red Jacket? 315 00:12:06,824 --> 00:12:08,710 I just wanna give a tip for our viewers at home. 316 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,950 If you're using any sort of electromagnetic field equipment, 317 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,730 trying to pick up any sort of, you know, discrepancies 318 00:12:15,780 --> 00:12:18,310 in the fluctuation of the electromagnet field, 319 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,840 moving your equipment very fast 320 00:12:19,890 --> 00:12:21,820 can sometimes give off a false positive. 321 00:12:21,870 --> 00:12:23,680 So, make sure when you're, 322 00:12:23,730 --> 00:12:25,180 when you have your equipment, 323 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:26,670 and you're trying to read EMF, 324 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,530 you're trying to keep it as level and as still as possible 325 00:12:29,580 --> 00:12:31,043 as you move through the building. 326 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:33,370 Okay, this belonged to 327 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:35,410 Lieutenant Colonel Seymour Boughton, 328 00:12:35,460 --> 00:12:38,260 a calvary man who was killed in the battle of Black Rock- 329 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:39,101 To start off if we start investigating, 330 00:12:39,143 --> 00:12:40,416 I think that's something we definitely have look at. 331 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,070 'Cause if that's blood, 332 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,250 that's this guy's, you know, 333 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,920 that's this guy's body here, basically. 334 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:49,540 You know, it would be some good reason 335 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:51,790 for him to might be lingering around this place. 336 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,710 And that's something we have to focus in on. 337 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,940 Who could this possibly be 338 00:12:54,990 --> 00:12:58,090 with a museum with thousands of artifacts in it? 339 00:12:58,140 --> 00:12:59,740 We're digging a needle in a haystack. 340 00:12:59,790 --> 00:13:00,581 - Yeah. - You know, 341 00:13:00,623 --> 00:13:03,100 we're picking out what's kind of like rising on the top. 342 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:05,800 Could it be somebody who's tied to some of these artifacts? 343 00:13:05,850 --> 00:13:07,098 - Yeah. - Could somebody's blood 344 00:13:07,140 --> 00:13:09,010 be on the sash, 345 00:13:09,060 --> 00:13:10,330 be what's drawing them here? 346 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:11,526 This is something we gotta look into. 347 00:13:11,550 --> 00:13:12,400 We gotta get names. 348 00:13:12,450 --> 00:13:16,330 We gotta get identities pulled out from our investigation. 349 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:19,570 So, Lieutenant Colonel Seymour Boughton, 350 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:22,150 we hope to see you later, alright? 351 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,730 That's wood, there's obviously no reason for it 352 00:13:24,780 --> 00:13:25,575 to be giving off electromagnetic field. 353 00:13:25,617 --> 00:13:26,408 Oh, did you see that? 354 00:13:26,450 --> 00:13:28,024 Look at this, look at this spike 355 00:13:28,074 --> 00:13:31,293 on Millard Fillmore's carriage. 356 00:13:32,250 --> 00:13:33,370 How could, 357 00:13:33,420 --> 00:13:35,230 what could be giving off that spike? 358 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,730 Can you see it there? 359 00:13:37,570 --> 00:13:39,520 Joe's getting a spike on the wheel. 360 00:13:39,570 --> 00:13:41,290 Yeah, on the wheel. 361 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:44,770 That's, see that's something that we're definitely, 362 00:13:44,820 --> 00:13:46,030 you know, curious about, 363 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,070 'cause this is not supposed to give off any sort 364 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,740 of electromagnetic fluctuation whatsoever. 365 00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:52,023 Leather and wood. 366 00:13:53,250 --> 00:13:56,250 Yeah, I just got a 2.2 on that wheel. 367 00:13:57,323 --> 00:13:59,500 And then it went back down to 0.3. 368 00:13:59,550 --> 00:14:01,593 And now it's steadily rising again. 369 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,640 Stopped at 1.1. 370 00:14:08,323 --> 00:14:10,720 My K2 just went dead. 371 00:14:10,770 --> 00:14:11,770 Down to 1 again. 372 00:14:12,618 --> 00:14:15,583 I got a fluctuation as soon as you said that, 373 00:14:15,633 --> 00:14:17,136 - It's like mine is gone- - in the carriage. 374 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,423 Mine's completely gone. 375 00:14:19,332 --> 00:14:20,575 Now it's blinking. 376 00:14:20,625 --> 00:14:21,773 Now it's blinking again? 377 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,120 This is the original floor. 378 00:14:25,170 --> 00:14:26,830 This was built for the Pan Am. 379 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,440 There was no electricity built into the floor 380 00:14:29,490 --> 00:14:30,408 of a building back then. 381 00:14:30,450 --> 00:14:31,248 1901, right? 382 00:14:31,290 --> 00:14:32,073 Never. 383 00:14:32,123 --> 00:14:33,278 Yeah. 384 00:14:33,328 --> 00:14:34,870 So. 385 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,303 I'm baffled at this point. 386 00:14:37,230 --> 00:14:39,186 Yeah, we're gonna have to let the team know about this 387 00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:41,136 and have them come down here and further investigate 388 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,010 this actual area, 389 00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,830 'cause this carriage should not be giving off EMF 390 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:45,798 as far as I know, correct? 391 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,690 Correct. 392 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:47,523 Okay. 393 00:14:47,573 --> 00:14:49,257 Hey, what's behind this door here? 394 00:14:49,307 --> 00:14:51,453 Let's, let's check out what's behind here. 395 00:14:54,270 --> 00:14:55,785 Holy moly! 396 00:14:57,326 --> 00:15:00,460 I think we just stumbled onto another part 397 00:15:00,510 --> 00:15:01,690 of our investigation. 398 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:03,723 His body was actually housed here. 399 00:15:07,770 --> 00:15:10,150 Hey, what's behind this door here? 400 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,950 Let's check out what's behind here. 401 00:15:13,350 --> 00:15:14,175 I think it's a storage area, right? 402 00:15:14,217 --> 00:15:15,580 Got a 3. 403 00:15:15,630 --> 00:15:17,830 Oh wow, mine just spiked up to a 10. 404 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:22,960 Holy moly! 405 00:15:23,010 --> 00:15:23,801 What is this? 406 00:15:23,843 --> 00:15:24,880 This is the underbelly. 407 00:15:24,930 --> 00:15:26,793 This is the underbelly of the museum. 408 00:15:27,690 --> 00:15:29,226 You know, I remember them telling me about 409 00:15:29,250 --> 00:15:31,150 the old exhibit room that they had 410 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,689 that was damaged by water, water damage. 411 00:15:33,739 --> 00:15:34,522 Oh. 412 00:15:34,572 --> 00:15:36,010 And they took it off, you know, 413 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:38,170 obviously they stopped from having any exhibits here. 414 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:40,443 So this must be it. 415 00:15:41,355 --> 00:15:42,400 It looks it. 416 00:15:42,450 --> 00:15:43,469 What a cool looking place. 417 00:15:43,493 --> 00:15:46,150 I mean, you can actually see the bricks 418 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,793 that built this place. 419 00:15:54,758 --> 00:15:55,943 You said you heard something. 420 00:15:55,985 --> 00:15:56,776 What'd it sound like, Dan? 421 00:15:56,818 --> 00:15:57,601 Like a- 422 00:15:57,651 --> 00:15:58,840 I heard what I, 423 00:15:58,890 --> 00:16:01,614 what sounded like footsteps coming down the main stairwell. 424 00:16:01,664 --> 00:16:02,455 I think we just- 425 00:16:02,497 --> 00:16:03,288 I was just standing there, 426 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:04,589 'cause I figured I was gonna see something staring at me. 427 00:16:04,613 --> 00:16:05,958 There's a unit over here 428 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,203 that's running type of machine. 429 00:16:07,227 --> 00:16:08,277 No, no, it's, 430 00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:10,360 I can hear that. 431 00:16:10,410 --> 00:16:12,770 That was like that sound when you have a stone in your foot. 432 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,485 Like that. 433 00:16:14,535 --> 00:16:16,295 Heard it right there. 434 00:16:16,345 --> 00:16:17,380 I know what I heard. 435 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:22,057 Well, I think we just stumbled onto another main 436 00:16:23,220 --> 00:16:24,260 part of our investigation. 437 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:26,136 I think we're gonna have to a team down here, too. 438 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,266 That's pretty significant, you're hearing things here, 439 00:16:28,290 --> 00:16:29,290 nobody's down here. 440 00:16:30,209 --> 00:16:31,930 Uh, I got the chills. 441 00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:35,200 This is the area behind us by the carriage, 442 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:38,470 that we were just getting that immense fluctuation of EMF. 443 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,318 You just got a spike. 444 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,750 Yeah. 445 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,916 Oh my God, look at that spike 446 00:16:41,940 --> 00:16:43,190 he's getting right there. 447 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:48,400 What is going on with the EMF in this place? 448 00:16:48,450 --> 00:16:49,450 It's weird. 449 00:16:50,250 --> 00:16:52,840 And those are the two areas that Tony told us, 450 00:16:52,890 --> 00:16:54,850 point blank, he had experiences. 451 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:58,600 He said that he heard humming of a girl with dictation, 452 00:16:58,650 --> 00:17:01,150 some sort of words coming out, some sort of song. 453 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,983 Yeah. 454 00:17:02,033 --> 00:17:03,880 A woman's voice out by the carriage. 455 00:17:03,930 --> 00:17:05,118 And then that bang on the- 456 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,443 Where he said that he heard the footsteps. 457 00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:11,150 All right, if that's a spirit, can you make that go away? 458 00:17:11,190 --> 00:17:12,990 Can you step away from those lights? 459 00:17:16,140 --> 00:17:17,140 Wow. 460 00:17:19,055 --> 00:17:20,976 Okay, we haven't even started this investigation yet. 461 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,020 For one, if anything we can do right now 462 00:17:23,070 --> 00:17:24,490 is validate that the two areas 463 00:17:24,540 --> 00:17:26,230 that Tony had his experiences, 464 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,500 we're getting weird anomalies on our machines. 465 00:17:29,550 --> 00:17:31,600 On our K2s and our Mels. 466 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:34,480 So let's go relate this information back to the team 467 00:17:34,530 --> 00:17:35,946 and let's get started investigating right away. 468 00:17:35,970 --> 00:17:37,692 I don't think I want to waste any more time. 469 00:17:37,742 --> 00:17:38,742 Okay? 470 00:17:50,094 --> 00:17:50,877 Ready? 471 00:17:50,927 --> 00:17:51,710 Okay guys, 472 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,826 I think we should probably head up to the Native American 473 00:17:53,850 --> 00:17:55,344 exhibit and check that out. 474 00:17:55,394 --> 00:17:56,177 Okay. 475 00:17:56,227 --> 00:17:58,540 'Cause there's been some experiences and claims. 476 00:17:58,590 --> 00:18:01,113 So let's go up there and see what we got. 477 00:18:02,490 --> 00:18:05,313 I'm also half Native American, so hopefully- 478 00:18:06,180 --> 00:18:07,689 You can probably trigger something. 479 00:18:07,731 --> 00:18:09,843 Yeah, possibly try to trigger something. 480 00:18:10,890 --> 00:18:13,060 Well, some of a couple of the claims have been 481 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:15,070 from different people at different times 482 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,326 that they've actually been touched 483 00:18:16,350 --> 00:18:17,500 on the shoulder. 484 00:18:17,550 --> 00:18:20,793 So we might be heading into some physical. 485 00:18:22,217 --> 00:18:23,217 Okay. 486 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,440 Now, Red Jacket, who is a Seneca nation leader 487 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:31,390 during the Revolutionary War, 488 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,340 his body was actually housed here, 489 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:36,280 right in the right in the museum. 490 00:18:36,330 --> 00:18:38,502 So that's interesting that he was here, 491 00:18:38,552 --> 00:18:41,110 and his most prized possession is right over there, 492 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,790 which is the peace medal, 493 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,120 which George Washington literally handed him. 494 00:18:46,170 --> 00:18:49,210 So, you know, the claim, or we're wondering whether 495 00:18:49,260 --> 00:18:50,521 he could still be here. 496 00:18:50,571 --> 00:18:51,354 Right. 497 00:18:51,404 --> 00:18:53,410 And it's possibly him that's interacting 498 00:18:53,460 --> 00:18:54,910 with people up here. 499 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,818 So what should we do first? 500 00:18:55,860 --> 00:18:57,890 You wanna do an EVP session? 501 00:18:57,940 --> 00:19:00,021 Yeah, let's do an EVP session. 502 00:19:00,071 --> 00:19:02,071 Also what I'll do is I'll take pictures. 503 00:19:02,121 --> 00:19:02,907 Okay. 504 00:19:02,957 --> 00:19:03,748 What I have in my hand here, 505 00:19:03,790 --> 00:19:05,220 it is a full spectrum camera, okay? 506 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,510 It can see in the full spectrum of light, 507 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,460 infrared, ultraviolet. 508 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:12,130 It's said that ghosts can be seen in these spectrums 509 00:19:12,180 --> 00:19:13,806 of light that we cannot see with our own eyes. 510 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:15,670 So during our session here, 511 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,346 I'll be taking random pictures constantly 512 00:19:17,370 --> 00:19:18,732 to see if I can capture something. 513 00:19:19,615 --> 00:19:22,283 Do you know who this carriage belonged to? 514 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:24,633 I just heard somebody walking around in there. 515 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,833 Boom, boom, boom, boom. 516 00:19:29,550 --> 00:19:33,283 Okay guys, so I'm, really excited to get back down here 517 00:19:33,333 --> 00:19:35,033 when the lights are off. 518 00:19:35,083 --> 00:19:38,890 Joe, Dan, and I, when we came down here before, 519 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:40,773 we were getting some pretty strange anomalies 520 00:19:40,823 --> 00:19:45,823 off the electromagnetic field coming from the carriage 521 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:49,390 that Millard Fillmore actually used. 522 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,313 So let's see if we still get any readings off of here. 523 00:19:54,383 --> 00:19:55,836 All right, so I'm gonna set up a K2 meter. 524 00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:57,543 Now we actually have a, 525 00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:01,923 like a pretty steady reading there. 526 00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:07,790 Okay, so if the person who this carriage belongs to 527 00:20:09,030 --> 00:20:09,813 is still here, 528 00:20:09,863 --> 00:20:11,559 can you give us some sort of indication to our meter 529 00:20:11,583 --> 00:20:13,570 that we put on the carriage that has green lights? 530 00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:17,440 Can you come over and make 'em go away? 531 00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:19,300 Holy moly. 532 00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:20,377 Did you see that? 533 00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:21,876 That was like a big, it was just steady too. 534 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:22,938 Yeah, it was steady. 535 00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:25,370 Like almost like, you know, when you hold it up 536 00:20:25,420 --> 00:20:26,706 to an outlet and just stays steady. 537 00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:28,240 Yeah. 538 00:20:28,290 --> 00:20:29,290 Okay, can some- 539 00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:33,220 If somebody is here with us and is able to see 540 00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:35,380 that green light that is on this carriage, 541 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:38,170 can you come over to this green light 542 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,110 and show us a sign that you are here? 543 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,710 Can you grab that meter for us? 544 00:20:43,958 --> 00:20:46,810 Are you the person that the guy in the office 545 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:50,500 heard you step on that wooden slope and heard footsteps 546 00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:51,333 out here? 547 00:20:51,383 --> 00:20:53,350 If so, try to touch that device 548 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,880 and it will light up different colors 549 00:20:54,930 --> 00:20:57,783 to let us know all that you may be trying to talk to us. 550 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:03,633 Is there somebody in that room? 551 00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:05,620 There's not? 552 00:21:05,670 --> 00:21:07,970 I just heard somebody walking around in there. 553 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:11,493 That's- 554 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,383 Okay. 555 00:21:13,433 --> 00:21:15,040 But I can't tell you one thing. 556 00:21:15,090 --> 00:21:17,500 I heard somebody walking from this other room. 557 00:21:17,550 --> 00:21:19,056 All right, so I think we should just pick up 558 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:19,863 the investigation. 559 00:21:19,913 --> 00:21:21,430 If there is any spirits here 560 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,707 that are trying to communicate, we do appreciate that. 561 00:21:23,757 --> 00:21:26,470 But we're gonna close down this line of communication 562 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,943 and I'm gonna see what's going on in this room here. 563 00:21:31,205 --> 00:21:32,403 Boom, boom, boom, boom. 564 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,650 Now this is very, this is very significant. 565 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:38,890 What we're experiencing right now is we have two K2 meters. 566 00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:40,296 Okay, we're up against this glass, 567 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,740 where the sash that belonged 568 00:21:41,790 --> 00:21:43,930 to Lieutenant Colonel Seymour Boughton, 569 00:21:43,980 --> 00:21:45,940 who died in the battle of Black Rock, 570 00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:47,590 and his blood is still on it. 571 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,802 Now we're talking about EMF fluctuations. 572 00:21:49,852 --> 00:21:50,860 Okay? 573 00:21:50,910 --> 00:21:53,260 Why would this one be going off and not this one? 574 00:21:53,310 --> 00:21:54,910 Now we have another piece of equipment 575 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,280 that I wanna try to set up here real quick 576 00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:58,210 for Mr. Boughton. 577 00:21:58,260 --> 00:22:00,520 And this is a spirit box, okay? 578 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:02,920 What this does, AM/FM radio, 579 00:22:02,970 --> 00:22:05,830 and it has a scan feature taken right out of it, okay? 580 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,410 Now it spits through these channels very, very fast. 581 00:22:08,460 --> 00:22:09,490 Okay? 582 00:22:09,540 --> 00:22:11,980 All the channels, not just the ones that come in. 583 00:22:12,030 --> 00:22:12,813 All right? 584 00:22:12,863 --> 00:22:13,646 Just every channel, 585 00:22:13,696 --> 00:22:16,270 so spirits can manipulate the static energy 586 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,180 into spirit voice through the radio communication. 587 00:22:19,230 --> 00:22:23,920 Soldier, are you here? 588 00:22:23,970 --> 00:22:24,942 Both- 589 00:22:24,992 --> 00:22:27,400 Okay, see this indication of the EMF fluctuation? 590 00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:28,270 This is the soldier 591 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,390 that's trying to communicate with us right now. 592 00:22:31,273 --> 00:22:33,342 Is your name Seymour? 593 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:38,529 Seymour Boughton? 594 00:22:38,579 --> 00:22:39,521 Yes. 595 00:22:39,563 --> 00:22:41,679 What was that? 596 00:22:44,952 --> 00:22:45,952 Soldier. 597 00:22:50,457 --> 00:22:51,667 How did you die? 598 00:22:54,989 --> 00:22:58,179 Gun. 599 00:22:58,229 --> 00:22:59,339 Were you shot? 600 00:22:59,389 --> 00:23:00,237 Yeah. 601 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:01,279 Yeah? 602 00:23:04,654 --> 00:23:07,529 Is an item in this room belong to you? 603 00:23:07,579 --> 00:23:08,450 No. 604 00:23:08,492 --> 00:23:11,605 Whoa, big spikes, both big spikes on both things, right? 605 00:23:11,655 --> 00:23:13,269 Is this item a gun? 606 00:23:17,291 --> 00:23:18,745 It said something. 607 00:23:18,795 --> 00:23:19,829 The sash? 608 00:23:22,345 --> 00:23:23,869 I think it said, "the sash". 609 00:23:30,569 --> 00:23:33,255 Is the blood on that sash yours? 610 00:23:41,118 --> 00:23:43,082 We need you to focus. 611 00:23:48,302 --> 00:23:50,245 Try to say "atten-hut" again. 612 00:23:51,755 --> 00:23:53,905 Atten- 613 00:23:53,955 --> 00:23:56,382 That seemed pretty close to me. 614 00:23:59,318 --> 00:24:01,345 Do you got a flashlight? 615 00:24:01,395 --> 00:24:03,036 Can we get a flashlight and get it on her wrist real quick? 616 00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:05,590 She said, just something might have touched her wrist. 617 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,116 Said that they had felt someone touching them 618 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:07,923 on the shoulder. 619 00:24:07,973 --> 00:24:08,921 Okay. 620 00:24:08,971 --> 00:24:10,116 And just coming up from behind them and just, you know, 621 00:24:10,140 --> 00:24:11,680 resting their hand on their shoulder. 622 00:24:11,730 --> 00:24:12,936 They turn around, and no one there. 623 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,278 It felt like- 624 00:24:14,328 --> 00:24:15,228 Okay, so what happened? 625 00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:16,098 I was just standing like this 626 00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:17,530 with my hands behind my back 627 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:19,420 and then right here, just like really lightly, 628 00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:20,980 just felt like feathery. 629 00:24:21,030 --> 00:24:22,660 And I looked and I saw you behind me, 630 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:25,960 but you're further back, not close enough to touch me. 631 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:27,010 Hmm. 632 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:29,440 Okay. 633 00:24:29,490 --> 00:24:30,281 Kind of strange. 634 00:24:30,323 --> 00:24:31,570 So very strange. 635 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:33,460 Very strange. 636 00:24:34,590 --> 00:24:36,010 We've been getting reports 637 00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:42,310 of the employees and customers of this museum 638 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,793 of being touched by unseen forces. 639 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,093 We wish to communicate with these forces. 640 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,450 Are you here with us? 641 00:24:53,943 --> 00:24:55,383 I thought I just heard something in there. 642 00:24:55,407 --> 00:24:56,907 Yeah, I did too. 643 00:25:01,290 --> 00:25:03,340 Was that you that just made that noise? 644 00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:06,183 I'm part Native American, 645 00:25:07,710 --> 00:25:11,110 so I am a direct descendant of yours. 646 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,663 I'm part of your family. 647 00:25:15,390 --> 00:25:17,253 If you are touching people, can you tell us why? 648 00:25:17,277 --> 00:25:19,383 Are you're trying to get their attention? 649 00:25:23,430 --> 00:25:25,720 Perhaps at one time you were the curator 650 00:25:25,770 --> 00:25:27,670 and you want us not to touch things? 651 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,420 That's why you're touching people? 652 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:37,930 That was a noise behind you? 653 00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:38,771 That was, that was. 654 00:25:38,813 --> 00:25:40,830 It sounded like it came from like, this area. 655 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,130 It did, I agree. 656 00:25:43,770 --> 00:25:46,323 I'm getting a little spike here, up to 1.5. 657 00:25:46,373 --> 00:25:47,156 Are you? 658 00:25:47,206 --> 00:25:48,206 Yeah. 659 00:25:56,790 --> 00:25:59,590 Would you like us to pay attention to the headdresses? 660 00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:03,320 Was one of them one that you wore? 661 00:26:12,681 --> 00:26:13,528 One of the reasons why we do this 662 00:26:13,570 --> 00:26:17,980 is we want to know what is waiting for us after we die. 663 00:26:18,030 --> 00:26:19,716 This device with the green light that I'm holding 664 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:22,810 and the one on the floor is called a K2 meter. 665 00:26:22,860 --> 00:26:24,276 I'm not sure if you'd understand that, 666 00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:26,740 but it gives, it detects EMF fields, 667 00:26:26,790 --> 00:26:30,520 electromagnetic fields that we think you could manipulate 668 00:26:30,570 --> 00:26:33,280 and converse with us and- 669 00:26:33,330 --> 00:26:34,338 Let us know you're here. 670 00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:35,710 Question and answer, right? 671 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,863 If you're here, light up this device, 672 00:26:40,110 --> 00:26:41,560 it has multiple lights on it. 673 00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:47,290 Yes, or make some kind of noise. 674 00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:49,053 Let us know that you're here. 675 00:26:50,580 --> 00:26:52,060 We've been here all day. 676 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:53,810 We've been waiting to talk to you. 677 00:26:59,406 --> 00:27:00,197 I heard a noise over there. 678 00:27:00,239 --> 00:27:01,030 Yeah, I heard that. 679 00:27:01,072 --> 00:27:01,855 Across the way. 680 00:27:01,905 --> 00:27:02,696 Did you hear too? 681 00:27:02,738 --> 00:27:03,738 Yep. 682 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:06,036 I have a camera in my hand here, 683 00:27:06,060 --> 00:27:07,857 where I have the ability to see you 684 00:27:07,907 --> 00:27:08,698 if you manifest yourself. 685 00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:09,740 Can you do that for us? 686 00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:15,010 I definitely heard it over there. 687 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,310 Could you come a little closer to us? 688 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,036 Are you stuck here in this building, 689 00:27:24,060 --> 00:27:29,060 or are you allowed to travel through space and time? 690 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,076 I'm gonna turn on the Ovilus 691 00:27:36,126 --> 00:27:38,500 and just see if we get something with that. 692 00:27:38,550 --> 00:27:40,660 So we've been hearing some noise off in the distance. 693 00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:44,280 If that's you, why don't you come a little closer? 694 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:45,720 Alright. 695 00:27:45,770 --> 00:27:47,020 Alright. 696 00:27:47,070 --> 00:27:48,130 So you- 697 00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:50,144 I asked it to come closer and it said alright. 698 00:27:50,194 --> 00:27:50,985 It said alright? 699 00:27:51,027 --> 00:27:52,960 It said alright. 700 00:27:53,010 --> 00:27:54,010 I think- 701 00:27:55,882 --> 00:27:56,673 There was something over there. 702 00:27:56,715 --> 00:27:58,013 Out of the shadow? 703 00:27:58,063 --> 00:27:59,396 I thought I did, but- 704 00:28:01,353 --> 00:28:02,717 Yeah, right there. 705 00:28:02,767 --> 00:28:04,668 What the hell was that? 706 00:28:04,718 --> 00:28:05,592 That was loud, man. 707 00:28:05,634 --> 00:28:08,792 That was like a screechy demon-sounding noise. 708 00:28:10,590 --> 00:28:12,190 It's a word box full of, 709 00:28:13,446 --> 00:28:15,796 I don't know if it's 5,000 words or something like that? 710 00:28:15,846 --> 00:28:16,922 Yeah, I'm not sure. 711 00:28:16,964 --> 00:28:18,298 And it should be that spirits can manipulate it. 712 00:28:18,322 --> 00:28:19,608 Human. 713 00:28:19,658 --> 00:28:20,916 Human, yeah, we're human. 714 00:28:20,958 --> 00:28:21,741 Yeah. 715 00:28:21,791 --> 00:28:22,574 Okay, we're back. 716 00:28:22,624 --> 00:28:24,424 Anything going on in the Native American room? 717 00:28:25,290 --> 00:28:26,703 Here's your chance to shine. 718 00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:31,960 So we're wondering if the gentleman who made this beautiful, 719 00:28:32,010 --> 00:28:34,330 beautiful clock, I don't know if you can see it, 720 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:36,910 but look at the artistry and the craftsmanship 721 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,050 on this thing. 722 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:42,790 Must have taken hours and hours to build it, to make it. 723 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,090 And it was donated to the history museum, 724 00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:49,660 and the gentleman who made it passed away a week later. 725 00:28:49,710 --> 00:28:52,540 So we're wondering if you're possibly here 726 00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:56,283 and come to visit and see people admiring your work? 727 00:28:57,410 --> 00:28:59,084 Let's see what's going on over here. 728 00:28:59,134 --> 00:28:59,939 Alright- 729 00:28:59,989 --> 00:29:01,028 Hey, is that a- 730 00:29:01,078 --> 00:29:01,861 Bible. 731 00:29:01,911 --> 00:29:02,803 Is this a Bible? 732 00:29:02,853 --> 00:29:03,703 It's a Bible. 733 00:29:03,753 --> 00:29:05,590 Well, I mean the Ovilus said "Bible" earlier, 734 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,053 so I'm wondering if it was. 735 00:29:09,186 --> 00:29:10,470 Yeah, this could definitely be a Bible. 736 00:29:10,494 --> 00:29:12,550 Bible. 737 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,710 Now, earlier when we were down in the holding room, 738 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,650 you actually said the word "Bible" and we're actually 739 00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:19,593 up here now, where there's a Bible. 740 00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:22,610 So what do you wanna say to us? 741 00:29:25,146 --> 00:29:26,146 Shh. 742 00:29:28,098 --> 00:29:29,598 I hear whispering. 743 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:33,183 Oh my God. 744 00:29:34,110 --> 00:29:35,193 I've just seen, 745 00:29:36,330 --> 00:29:40,203 like something just fly right across there. 746 00:29:41,403 --> 00:29:42,186 Whoa. 747 00:29:42,236 --> 00:29:43,019 See, see? 748 00:29:43,069 --> 00:29:45,400 What's that? 749 00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:46,406 That was loud. 750 00:29:46,456 --> 00:29:48,456 Shh, shh, shh. 751 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,360 Hello? 752 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:07,083 I'd just seen you, and we all heard you. 753 00:30:09,450 --> 00:30:12,250 My heart's going like a million miles an hour right now. 754 00:30:20,010 --> 00:30:21,333 Can you do that again? 755 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,391 We just want to talk to you. 756 00:30:25,433 --> 00:30:27,548 We don't mean no harm. 757 00:30:27,598 --> 00:30:29,710 No, it wasn't there just to hear me. 758 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,470 There's no other sources of light in here. 759 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,585 Yeah, I don't know how that could- 760 00:30:33,609 --> 00:30:34,609 Shh, shh, 761 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:36,430 I hear it again. 762 00:30:37,745 --> 00:30:39,003 We've just seen, 763 00:30:39,861 --> 00:30:42,490 or I've just seen something flying across here 764 00:30:42,540 --> 00:30:44,586 and then as soon as I said I seen it, we heard a noise, 765 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:45,401 all three of us heard a noise. 766 00:30:45,443 --> 00:30:46,644 Yeah, that was a- 767 00:30:46,694 --> 00:30:47,905 Under. 768 00:30:47,955 --> 00:30:48,746 And then I keep hearing- 769 00:30:48,788 --> 00:30:49,788 Under, under. 770 00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:52,293 Whispering noises? 771 00:30:55,305 --> 00:30:57,340 Are you hiding underneath something right now? 772 00:30:57,390 --> 00:31:00,343 And then you said you seen the shadow on that wall? 773 00:31:00,393 --> 00:31:01,416 Yeah, on the wall right there, 774 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,490 where your finger is. 775 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,240 What level was it that you saw it? 776 00:31:07,290 --> 00:31:08,290 Like how high? 777 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,880 What's that in the shadow? 778 00:31:14,097 --> 00:31:14,888 Did you hear that? 779 00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:16,534 What is that? 780 00:31:16,584 --> 00:31:18,005 That like- 781 00:31:18,055 --> 00:31:18,921 Did you hear that? 782 00:31:18,971 --> 00:31:20,138 Yeah. 783 00:31:22,543 --> 00:31:24,497 - Movement? - Dragging. 784 00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:26,530 - Dragging? - Yeah, like dragging. 785 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:27,363 That's- 786 00:31:27,413 --> 00:31:28,413 Who's here? 787 00:31:38,613 --> 00:31:40,443 Okay, we hear you. 788 00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:48,700 We keep hearing noises, it's like dragging 789 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:51,933 and whispers. 790 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,040 And I- 791 00:31:55,009 --> 00:31:58,470 We should head over towards the clock. 792 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,470 We just want to communicate with you. 793 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,080 Is there something that you wish to relay to us? 794 00:32:12,856 --> 00:32:14,140 Demon. 795 00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:15,220 What? 796 00:32:15,270 --> 00:32:16,240 Demon. 797 00:32:16,290 --> 00:32:17,073 Demon? 798 00:32:17,123 --> 00:32:18,850 Demon, yeah. 799 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:21,070 Okay, so clearly we're communicating 800 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,470 with something intelligent. 801 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:25,053 It doesn't necessarily mean- 802 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:28,536 Yeah, we had "human" coming up the stairs, 803 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,450 and now we have "demon". 804 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,000 Let's go back to the Bible area. 805 00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:34,990 Can we? 806 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,900 Hang on, the noise was coming from over here. 807 00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:39,303 I'm coming over here. 808 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Yeah, all in this area. 809 00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:53,650 Where are you right now? 810 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,911 You said the word "under". 811 00:32:57,953 --> 00:32:59,470 Are you under something right now? 812 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,800 Are you waiting for us to leave? 813 00:33:01,753 --> 00:33:03,033 Are you waiting for us to leave? 814 00:33:03,619 --> 00:33:04,899 Are you waiting for us to leave? 815 00:33:06,259 --> 00:33:07,750 Well that's one of them. 816 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,128 That better be one of the, 817 00:33:09,170 --> 00:33:10,673 'cause I just my pants. 818 00:33:10,723 --> 00:33:12,245 What was that though? 819 00:33:12,295 --> 00:33:14,470 That didn't sound like a door or- 820 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,936 Scott, did you guys just shut some door 821 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,306 or something? 822 00:33:17,356 --> 00:33:18,139 Or cough? 823 00:33:18,189 --> 00:33:19,189 Or cough? 824 00:33:20,779 --> 00:33:22,023 Negative. 825 00:33:22,906 --> 00:33:23,689 Noose. 826 00:33:23,739 --> 00:33:24,530 You gotta be kidding me. 827 00:33:24,572 --> 00:33:25,363 What it say? 828 00:33:25,405 --> 00:33:26,188 Noose. 829 00:33:26,238 --> 00:33:27,021 News? 830 00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:28,449 Noose. 831 00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:31,780 What was that? 832 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:34,323 If that wasn't them, what the heck was that? 833 00:33:35,367 --> 00:33:36,783 Well, I was recording it. 834 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,848 You said the word "under", 835 00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:42,280 are you under something right now? 836 00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:43,610 Are you waiting for us to leave? 837 00:33:44,531 --> 00:33:45,322 Yeah, right there. 838 00:33:45,364 --> 00:33:47,705 What the hell was that? 839 00:33:47,755 --> 00:33:49,025 That was loud, man. 840 00:33:49,075 --> 00:33:51,580 That was like a screechy demon-sounding noise. 841 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,657 That wasn't a door, that wasn't a door. 842 00:33:53,707 --> 00:33:54,498 You said the word "under", 843 00:33:54,540 --> 00:33:55,684 are you under something right now? 844 00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:56,988 Are you waiting for us to leave? 845 00:33:57,374 --> 00:33:59,836 That's like a scream. 846 00:33:59,886 --> 00:34:01,254 Whore. 847 00:34:01,304 --> 00:34:03,114 What does that say? 848 00:34:03,164 --> 00:34:04,164 Whore. 849 00:34:05,504 --> 00:34:06,634 You said the word "under", 850 00:34:06,676 --> 00:34:07,654 are you under something right now? 851 00:34:07,696 --> 00:34:08,976 Are you waiting for us to leave? 852 00:34:09,809 --> 00:34:10,600 - Wow. - Yo, that's like- 853 00:34:10,642 --> 00:34:11,836 What? 854 00:34:11,886 --> 00:34:13,219 Wide. 855 00:34:14,873 --> 00:34:15,656 Hide? 856 00:34:15,706 --> 00:34:16,706 No, wide. 857 00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:18,363 I don't either. 858 00:34:18,413 --> 00:34:19,750 That that was a weird, 859 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,130 that's not a door sound to me. 860 00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:22,540 I mean, we can, but that was, 861 00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:23,620 it was long too. 862 00:34:23,670 --> 00:34:25,000 It wasn't- 863 00:34:25,050 --> 00:34:25,960 It was loud! 864 00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:29,204 It was super loud, it was long, and it was weird. 865 00:34:29,254 --> 00:34:30,821 So if it's not the front door, 866 00:34:30,871 --> 00:34:33,268 then I don't know what the hell it is. 867 00:34:33,318 --> 00:34:35,013 I'm seeing like move, 868 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,403 like in this doorway and over there. 869 00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:41,646 Well, I'm sure they're all around. 870 00:34:41,670 --> 00:34:43,721 We're just, they're- 871 00:34:43,771 --> 00:34:44,554 Alright, let's- 872 00:34:44,604 --> 00:34:46,458 But I don't like the fact that we got "demon" 873 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:47,686 and then we hear something like that. 874 00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:48,805 "Human" and then "demon". 875 00:34:48,847 --> 00:34:49,630 Yeah. 876 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,910 Like, yeah, okay, you guys are the humans. 877 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,810 Now let's see what the demons can do. 878 00:34:56,130 --> 00:34:59,128 Is there something that's not human in here? 879 00:35:03,811 --> 00:35:05,470 Is there anyone down here with us? 880 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,102 Are you the shadow that they see down here? 881 00:35:08,152 --> 00:35:09,152 See that? 882 00:35:11,572 --> 00:35:13,539 Is there anyone down here with us? 883 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,000 Can you tell me how many people are in the room? 884 00:35:22,549 --> 00:35:24,413 Two. 885 00:35:24,463 --> 00:35:26,687 - Two? - Two. 886 00:35:26,737 --> 00:35:28,473 I need you to state your name. 887 00:35:34,740 --> 00:35:37,590 Are you the shadow that they see down here? 888 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,983 Are you hiding from somebody? 889 00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:56,950 Who is Joseph? 890 00:36:03,611 --> 00:36:06,190 I'm Joseph. 891 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:07,940 I thought it said, "I'm Joseph". 892 00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:10,669 I think that's exactly what it sounded like. 893 00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:14,156 It sounded like, "I'm Joseph". 894 00:36:14,180 --> 00:36:16,179 Yeah, that's what it sounded like to me. 895 00:36:17,806 --> 00:36:20,915 Hello. 896 00:36:20,965 --> 00:36:22,646 Is that you, Joseph? 897 00:36:25,496 --> 00:36:26,403 Ten. 898 00:36:26,445 --> 00:36:27,421 How old do we think he is? 899 00:36:27,463 --> 00:36:28,728 I just get the feeling, a boy, 900 00:36:28,770 --> 00:36:30,766 he's gotta be between 7, 10? 901 00:36:30,816 --> 00:36:32,431 8, 10? 902 00:36:33,474 --> 00:36:35,301 We think you might be a child? 903 00:36:35,351 --> 00:36:37,854 Perhaps a little boy, a young boy? 904 00:36:39,126 --> 00:36:41,267 See that? 905 00:36:44,084 --> 00:36:44,867 Okay. 906 00:36:44,917 --> 00:36:47,080 Can you try to talk to us, please? 907 00:36:47,130 --> 00:36:48,393 Try to tell us your name? 908 00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:57,846 Just so that I know that it's not a fluke, 909 00:36:57,870 --> 00:37:00,447 can you make it flash the red again? 910 00:37:00,497 --> 00:37:01,497 Like you just did? 911 00:37:02,965 --> 00:37:05,200 That one down there is red. 912 00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:07,090 Can you see us? 913 00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:09,427 If you can see us, light up the devices on the floor 914 00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:11,857 and on this bench. 915 00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:15,902 Oh. 916 00:37:29,672 --> 00:37:33,850 So you can see us, can you flash it to red, please? 917 00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:37,570 Right when I'm pointing, right to red, if you could. 918 00:37:37,620 --> 00:37:38,620 Concentrate. 919 00:37:43,230 --> 00:37:45,298 That was almost there. 920 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,160 Okay, if that's- 921 00:37:55,828 --> 00:37:56,619 Can you back away now, 922 00:37:56,661 --> 00:37:59,175 and just let it go to the one green light? 923 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,843 Are you by yourself here? 924 00:38:13,033 --> 00:38:14,153 This one just turned to red. 925 00:38:14,201 --> 00:38:15,415 Right. 926 00:38:15,465 --> 00:38:17,996 Now it's green. 927 00:38:25,744 --> 00:38:27,464 Looks like he's standing right there with- 928 00:38:29,726 --> 00:38:30,695 There it is. 929 00:38:30,745 --> 00:38:32,493 Oh, there it is, it went down. 930 00:38:32,543 --> 00:38:34,075 The red one went down. 931 00:38:34,125 --> 00:38:35,074 Thank you. 932 00:38:35,124 --> 00:38:36,124 Great job. 933 00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:41,074 How many are here with you? 934 00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:45,282 Yeah. 935 00:38:47,145 --> 00:38:49,534 One. 936 00:38:49,584 --> 00:38:52,578 One, that was so clear it sounded like a little boy to me. 937 00:38:52,628 --> 00:38:53,739 Yeah. 938 00:38:53,789 --> 00:38:56,156 And then the light went back down. 939 00:38:58,008 --> 00:38:59,740 It's playing origin, I just- 940 00:39:05,467 --> 00:39:08,203 All right, I'm gonna place this device onto the floor, 941 00:39:08,253 --> 00:39:09,253 it's our K2 meter. 942 00:39:10,270 --> 00:39:12,400 It's gonna pick up electromagnetic fields 943 00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:14,853 if there is anything here. 944 00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:17,974 We're gonna place another device on the floor 945 00:39:18,024 --> 00:39:19,024 that will record. 946 00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:23,217 We'll be able to hear you speak, 947 00:39:23,267 --> 00:39:25,870 or you can touch this device on the floor 948 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,590 and it'll allow us to know that you're here as well. 949 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,503 So who's here with us right now? 950 00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:40,670 Can you give us your name? 951 00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:44,514 If there's anybody in the room with us 952 00:39:44,564 --> 00:39:45,379 and you don't want to come forward, 953 00:39:45,421 --> 00:39:46,836 can you give us a sign that you're here? 954 00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:47,860 Make a noise? 955 00:39:53,887 --> 00:39:54,670 You okay? 956 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:55,503 No. 957 00:39:55,553 --> 00:39:57,409 What's going on? 958 00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:02,587 I'm pretty dizzy. 959 00:40:02,637 --> 00:40:04,350 Well, maybe it's- 960 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,040 I'm shaking. 961 00:40:06,090 --> 00:40:06,873 I don't know, um- 962 00:40:06,923 --> 00:40:09,723 You want to sit down? 963 00:40:09,773 --> 00:40:11,773 I'm like, I feel like- 964 00:40:13,917 --> 00:40:15,403 Oh, oh my god. 965 00:40:15,453 --> 00:40:16,405 What? 966 00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:17,424 Don't do- 967 00:40:17,474 --> 00:40:18,441 What? 968 00:40:18,491 --> 00:40:19,627 Dana. 969 00:40:19,677 --> 00:40:22,326 I'm like shaking right now and I'm on fire. 970 00:40:22,376 --> 00:40:23,504 Look at her neck. 971 00:40:23,554 --> 00:40:24,523 See that? 972 00:40:24,573 --> 00:40:25,573 Mhm. 973 00:40:25,611 --> 00:40:26,394 What is it, what? 974 00:40:26,444 --> 00:40:28,861 Three red scratches. 975 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Wow. 976 00:40:32,310 --> 00:40:35,465 I just like started shaking and my chest got really heavy 977 00:40:35,515 --> 00:40:37,339 and I just was like, Dan, I'm on fire, 978 00:40:37,389 --> 00:40:38,180 told him to check my face. 979 00:40:38,222 --> 00:40:39,273 Like I'm just- 980 00:40:41,494 --> 00:40:42,441 Are you okay though? 981 00:40:42,491 --> 00:40:43,545 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 982 00:40:43,595 --> 00:40:44,644 You want to continue? 983 00:40:44,694 --> 00:40:46,223 Of course. 984 00:40:46,273 --> 00:40:47,234 Just like I said, it wasn't a good feeling, 985 00:40:47,276 --> 00:40:48,067 it wasn't a bad feeling. 986 00:40:48,109 --> 00:40:48,900 I just, you know what? 987 00:40:48,942 --> 00:40:49,733 It could be just a way of communication 988 00:40:49,775 --> 00:40:50,918 that didn't mean anything, just that I told you- 989 00:40:50,942 --> 00:40:53,313 Yeah, but that happened to me once before. 990 00:40:53,363 --> 00:40:55,953 Yeah, it was in a negative way. 991 00:40:56,003 --> 00:40:57,351 I just- 992 00:40:57,401 --> 00:40:58,806 I just felt like real off, like fun house effect, 993 00:40:58,830 --> 00:41:00,730 I couldn't breathe and I just looked at Dan, 994 00:41:00,780 --> 00:41:02,980 I'm like, I feel like I'm on fire. 995 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:04,871 One other time that happened 996 00:41:04,921 --> 00:41:06,876 where she said the same thing, "I feel like I'm fire". 997 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,769 She goes like this on her back and I pulled up 998 00:41:08,819 --> 00:41:10,049 her shirt on her back, 999 00:41:10,099 --> 00:41:13,751 and her whole back was scratched down. 1000 00:41:13,801 --> 00:41:14,770 Kinda weird. 1001 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,990 Okay, so I gathered everybody up here 1002 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,820 in the museum after our investigations. 1003 00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:20,680 How do you guys think everything went? 1004 00:41:20,730 --> 00:41:22,586 - I thought it was good. - I thought it went great. 1005 00:41:22,610 --> 00:41:24,358 Now I know just from talking to the three team leaders 1006 00:41:24,382 --> 00:41:28,600 that every team seemed to have experienced anything. 1007 00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:30,951 Can anybody say that they have experienced something 1008 00:41:31,001 --> 00:41:32,367 that was a little off? 1009 00:41:32,417 --> 00:41:33,372 Yes. 1010 00:41:33,422 --> 00:41:35,226 Are we safe to say that there's a little something 1011 00:41:35,250 --> 00:41:36,845 more going on behind the scenes 1012 00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:38,125 in the Buffalo History Museum? 1013 00:41:38,175 --> 00:41:39,130 Yes. 1014 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:40,180 Most people know- 71463

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