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(slow ambient music)
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(slow dramatic music)
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- I too sensed that it
was actual revolution.
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(dramatic music)
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Being given this tool that had
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literal infinite possibilities.
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- We had people who just kept believing
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and, I mean, there's still
people who just keep believing.
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- This was the most
phenomenal personal computer
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that was available in the marketplace.
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(metal balls clanking)
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- No one had the kind
of power and performance
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that the Amiga computer
had in 1985, no one.
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- We were a small company,
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this rag tag team taking on IBM and Apple
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and we were going to change the world.
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We were taking on the big guys.
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(soft ambient music)
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- You actually could do
things that previously
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were either the province
of science fiction
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or were something that only a
company could possibly fund.
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- A computer from the future.
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- We were from the future.
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This was it.
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- They still develop software for it.
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They still develop hardware for it.
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So it's not fully dead either.
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It's still alive, it's still going.
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(soft ambient music)
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- We're now ready to
introduce the AmigaOne X1000.
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- And here comes this
thing that just demolishes
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what we think a home computer can do.
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It just completely changed everything.
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(rock music)
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- How would I describe it?
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- I think it's fantastic.
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- Awesome.
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- It's gonna skyrocket.
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- Only Amiga makes it possible.
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โซ Only Amiga
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โซ Makes it possible
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โซ Only Amiga
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โซ Makes it happen
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(upbeat music)
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(electronic music)
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- The Amiga was
launched July 23rd, 1985
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at the Lincoln Center in New York City.
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- It was rolled out in a deluxe fashion
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with a budget that was just breathtaking.
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- Everything that they
did was done to the nines.
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- Some Hollywood event
or something like that.
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It was so awesome.
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The roll out of our baby.
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- The Amiga was my baby.
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I had engineering tasks before that,
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I've had products after that,
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no, Amiga was it.
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- Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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What you are about to witness
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is the result of an effort
of research and engineering
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that began in 1982
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and which to date has
consumed over 100 man years
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of engineering talent,
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the Amiga computer.
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The Amiga computer is a
true multitasking computer.
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On the right, a sorting
application with variable fonts,
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graphics in the middle,
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and word processing at the bottom.
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Equally exciting is the
sound generating capability
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of the machine.
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My favorite is the power chord.
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(electronic rock riff)
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- It was an amazing cult like event.
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- They had Deborah Harry,
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they had Andy Warhol.
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- Oh my god, Andy Warhol.
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- Are you ready to paint me?
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- [Andy] Yeah.
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- Ladies and
gentlemen, I am here tonight
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to help assist Andy do his
first computer portrait
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using the Amiga computer.
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- All this effort with
the scrambling people
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putting together all
these bits and pieces,
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hoping with bubble gum and bailing wire
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that it'll hold together for the launch,
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for the demo at the launch.
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- What computers
have you worked on before?
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- Oh, I haven't worked on anything.
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I waited for this one.
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(audience laughing)
- Really?
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- Deborah Harry is posing for a picture
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that Andy Warhol is gonna do
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and Andy Warhol is using
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this fake little graphic craft thing
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that I put together for this demo
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and he's dinking with this
and he's dinking with that
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and Jack Haeger, one of our two artists,
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is standing next to Andy Warhol
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and here's Warhol, and Jack
is trying to guide him,
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"Okay, use this brush, use that."
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because Jack knows, not only what works
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but Jack also knows what's gonna crash,
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like whatever you do,
don't touch the flood fill
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because the flood fill
is gonna crash for sure.
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(audience laughter)
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- Oh, that looks very good.
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- So now we'll do the hair.
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So, we're gonna go up to color.
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- And Warhol without any control,
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he's clicking, he's drawing, he's clicking
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and Jack's like, "Uh, uh, this and that."
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And Warhol goes and
grabs for the flood fill
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and Jack's like, "Well,
you don't want to."
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And Warhol grabs the flood fill
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and he clicks on the flood fill
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and Jack's like, "Ooohh."
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And the flood fill just worked.
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It was like this awesome
wonderful amazing thing
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and you could've heard us
gasp out in the audience
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when he touched that button but it worked.
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- You go, like, okay,
this is just not gonna be
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a home computer like I thought
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or, even more accurately,
how are you tricking me?
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It was just really?
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- The boing demo had a bouncing ball
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that moved in front of a grid
that was in the background.
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- In living color on multiple screens,
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follow the bouncing ball.
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(audience applause)
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- So, for me, the Commodore Amiga
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will always be that damn bouncing ball
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and I've never seen a sprite that big.
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Aaah, you just see that bouncing ball
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and that's pretty much it.
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- Gah, what a day that was.
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The Amiga launch was one of
the high points of my life.
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- We've lived our dream
and seen it come to life.
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Now it's your turn.
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What will you do with the Amiga computer?
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- I've been thinking
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about the market lately.
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- To understand where we kind
of were with home computers
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by the mid 80s when the
Commodore Amiga came out,
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now about that time the big names
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are essentially Atari,
IBM, Apple, Commodore.
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- Apple IIcs were hot then.
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IBM PCs were still pretty clunky and big
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and monochrome green screens.
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Lotus 1-2-3 was the spreadsheet.
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Excel and Word weren't even invented yet.
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- At the time of the home
computers in the early 1980s,
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there was certainly a
much stronger brand sense.
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Atari and Commodore have been kind of
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riding their 8-bit computers for a while.
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Apple has introduced the Macintosh,
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pretty cool but it's a little expensive.
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That's about where we are.
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We've got about four or five
big name companies going on.
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They've all got to bring to
the table the next generation.
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They all knew this.
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They all knew they had to step it up.
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Steve Jobs was shuffled
off on this project
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to make what became the Macintosh.
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They were like, "Okay, go ahead and try."
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And he did.
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- And even though
the original Macintosh
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was lower resolution than the Amiga
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and it was only black and
white versus the Amiga color,
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they started that path and
started getting the public
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used to thinking that IBM Solution
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was not the only way to do it
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and that you could do something better.
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- Atari comes
out with the ST line,
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which is meant to be their
next generation of computers.
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So okay,
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Commodore goes out and
gets the Amiga team.
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- And we felt that we had the
box that was the real answer
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that the marketplace wanted.
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We even scoffed at Apple for
what they were trying to do
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because even though they
were trying to be different
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and trying to get people to
think in a different way,
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they still were living in
this sort of limited world
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where it was black and white
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and the operating system
was extremely clumsy to use
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for doing games and entertainment.
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It was good for doing a
lot of computery stuff
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but we felt that the Amiga was
what consumers really wanted.
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- Back in those days, the
computers that were there
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weren't very good game playing machines.
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You think back to what
computing was in those days.
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You look at it today, none of us
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would accept a product like that.
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Computers were designed
primarily as business machines.
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- We created the Amiga
ostensibly to be a game system.
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We all believed it would
be a very good game system
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but the engineers of
the company always knew
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that it was destined to be something more.
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A machine that was powerful enough
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to do the sort of home
office stuff that you needed
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but the Amiga at the same time
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was just a kick butt game system.
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We ended up hoping that
that would be the thing
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that would pull the
Amiga all the way forward
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and have it achieve the success
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that we thought it should have.
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- You basically have Jay Miner,
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computer designer extraordinaire,
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and his team of engineers,
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who are all top notch.
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They had done work on the Atari 2600
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and then they were moving
on to the next level
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and coming up with a computer.
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- Well, it was in 1982,
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a friend of mine that I
used to work with at Atari
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came to me and said, "Hey,
Jay, let's start a new company.
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I'm tired of this one."
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And I said, "Well, fine.
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I'll do the chips for it
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and I'll be the vice president
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if I can do the chips my way."
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- At the beginning,
what Amiga was making
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was this little board that you sat on
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and there was a surfing
game that went with it.
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And that was the cover story.
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Underneath, we were
building this new computer
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with chips and things.
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- I had left a very
good job in Minneapolis
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and had made the commitment
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to come and work with Dave on this.
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I walk into the building
down in Santa Clara
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and I look at 5,000 square feet
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and I look around and I'm going,
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"Dave, what in the hell are we gonna do
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with all this space?"
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And he said, "Don't you worry about that."
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He says, "We're gonna
need all this space."
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- I came across Amiga while I was working
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at a different company
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and with incredible ego and arrogance,
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I walked into the president's office,
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explained to him how great I would be
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and how much I could help him
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and he threw me out.
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That was David Morse,
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probably the best man I've ever known.
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I felt really stupid about what I'd done
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and called him the next day and said,
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"Oh please, oh please, I really
want to work on your stuff.
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Let me come back and try again."
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He said, "Okay, go to the lab guy."
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And I went to the lab guy and said,
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"I'm here.
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Let me do anything.
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What do you need?"
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And I became the janitor at Amiga.
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- It was a start up.
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There was a lot of work to do.
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People just grabbed jobs
that needed to get done
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and did those jobs
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and we worked hard and long.
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- One day, I'm cleaning up
around Glenn Keller's desk.
262
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He was one of the design
engineers at Amiga.
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- My main role in the Amiga's development
264
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was designer of the audio chip.
265
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It was my first chip I had ever worked on.
266
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- I'm looking over his
shoulder at what he's doing
267
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and I'm suggesting,
"Oh, that's interesting
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but what if blah, blah, blah."
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He looks at me like, "Well, okay, janitor,
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you're an engineer?"
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"Yeah, I'm an engineer."
272
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"What in the world are you
doing cleaning up the floors?",
273
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he says.
274
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So in two years, I had then
made it up to system architect
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for the Amiga computer.
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(dramatic music)
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Amiga had gone through
many of the funding issues
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that other companies go through.
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As things get close, more
money needs to be spent,
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stuff goes wrong.
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If you run out of money, the company dies.
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If you try to get more money,
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you wind up selling everything.
284
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It's really awful.
285
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And someone else takes control,
286
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they don't have the spirit,
287
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they don't have the life,
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you get the wrong machine.
289
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We're running out of money.
290
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- Those were desperate
days where we were afraid
291
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the business was gonna have to close.
292
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We couldn't believe it was happening.
293
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We had this amazing piece of
technology that we created,
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this awesome new computer system
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it seemed unreal
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that we could be this
close to so much glory
297
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and fall short because we
just didn't have the funds
298
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but we didn't, we didn't have the money.
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When we were almost out of dough
300
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and the company was in
such a delicate territory,
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Jay was the guy that went out
302
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and took out a second mortgage on his home
303
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and used that money to infuse
the company with more cash
304
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so that we could keep going,
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so that we could keep operating
306
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and we had exhausted
all of our other options
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and realized that if the
company was gonna stay afloat
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that we would have to sell it to someone.
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(dramatic music)
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- So, we had made
some deals with Atari.
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- They came and made a deal
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for half a million dollars.
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We get an offer from
Tramiel, who is pissed
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that when he was at Commodore
he wanted to get us,
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couldn't, left Commodore, went to Atari,
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wanted to get us, couldn't.
317
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They were making the Atari ST.
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Many people don't understand
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why putting something in
Tramiel's hands is a bad idea.
320
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Jack lived through the
bad times of the war
321
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in the German prison camps.
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Came out of that with
the following philosophy,
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business is war.
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If you're not crushing your opponent,
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you're doing it wrong.
326
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The correct thing to do is
squeeze them till they're dead.
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Take anything you can.
328
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The details of the deal included
that at a particular time,
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when we needed to pay it back,
330
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if we paid it back, fine.
331
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Then Amiga stays ours, no problem.
332
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If we can't pay it back,
333
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they get the rights to the Amiga.
334
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(dramatic music)
335
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- And as time went on, it looked like
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we were gonna run out of money,
337
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they were gonna pick up all
the intellectual property
338
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and run with it.
339
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- We were gonna have to
give Jack Tramiel of Atari,
340
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the Amiga.
341
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Unacceptable, not okay.
342
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Dave Morse felt that that
was unacceptable, not okay.
343
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He started negotiations
with Commodore proper.
344
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- At the last minute,
suddenly, Commodore came in
345
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and bought us out with a much better deal.
346
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- And it got us a gigantic
price out of Commodore,
347
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more than would've happened before.
348
00:18:47,267 --> 00:18:50,047
Commodore gives a half million
dollars cash on the spot
349
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and on the day that we have
to give the secrets to Tramiel
350
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Dave Morse hands them a check
351
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for half a million dollars instead.
352
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Jack is furious.
353
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Jack's really angry about this.
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We are delighted.
355
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(applause)
356
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(upbeat music)
357
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- It wasn't just a computer
that you wanted to work on.
358
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It was a computer you stared at
359
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'cause you were like, "I can't
believe this is happening
360
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right here in front of me."
361
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- There wasn't a machine that could touch us.
362
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This had multitasking,
363
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no one was doing multitasking.
364
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It had video graphics,
365
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no one was doing multimedia
video graphics like the Amiga.
366
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The Macintoshes were black and white.
367
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IBMs were green screens.
368
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No one had the kind of
power and performance
369
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that the Amiga computer
had in 1985, no one.
370
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- The computer from the future.
371
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- We were from the future, this was it.
372
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- When I was in college, I
played some audio from the Amiga.
373
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(electronic music)
374
00:20:07,477 --> 00:20:08,666
The person I played it for,
375
00:20:08,666 --> 00:20:12,833
I remember him saying, "No,
this is not computer music."
376
00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:17,945
He just refused to admit
that a home computer
377
00:20:17,945 --> 00:20:19,278
made this sound.
378
00:20:22,525 --> 00:20:25,915
That's one of the things about the Amiga,
379
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that sense of miracle, of
wonder, that came with it.
380
00:20:33,183 --> 00:20:36,266
- This was the do it yourself period.
381
00:20:37,625 --> 00:20:40,079
Post punk, everybody started a band
382
00:20:40,079 --> 00:20:42,996
but we started an animation studio.
383
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For the first time in history,
384
00:20:45,947 --> 00:20:48,590
we could be a production studio,
385
00:20:48,590 --> 00:20:51,816
making strips, making
music, making animations,
386
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producing it, getting it out on tape
387
00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:56,505
and delivering it at
the broadcast station.
388
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We were in control of that.
389
00:20:57,690 --> 00:21:00,975
So it was super do it yourself.
390
00:21:00,975 --> 00:21:05,038
- And in Europe, the Amiga
500 was very successful there.
391
00:21:05,038 --> 00:21:08,649
We sold over a million Amiga
500s a year for awhile.
392
00:21:08,649 --> 00:21:12,507
- Then was a launch also here
in Germany, a revolution.
393
00:21:12,507 --> 00:21:14,182
Everybody loves it, everybody likes it
394
00:21:14,182 --> 00:21:16,349
and it was a success here.
395
00:21:18,648 --> 00:21:22,292
- There was a lot of room
for that crazed individual
396
00:21:22,292 --> 00:21:25,027
to say, "You know what this machine needs?
397
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This machine needs a piece of hardware
398
00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:28,983
that we can plug in and we'll have cameras
399
00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:32,494
and light filters and it's gonna
do this spectacular thing."
400
00:21:32,494 --> 00:21:35,514
There was room then for one person to say,
401
00:21:35,514 --> 00:21:36,931
"I'm gonna do that thing,"
402
00:21:36,931 --> 00:21:39,223
and we've got a product on the shelf
403
00:21:39,223 --> 00:21:41,608
that people are buying.
404
00:21:41,608 --> 00:21:44,026
- I haven't seen the same
kind of just opportunity
405
00:21:44,026 --> 00:21:48,097
for weirdness and enthusiasm
and unbridled energy
406
00:21:48,097 --> 00:21:49,014
since then.
407
00:21:50,483 --> 00:21:51,599
- We wanted to change the world.
408
00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,328
We wanted to make the best computer.
409
00:21:54,328 --> 00:21:56,279
To make a computer better,
410
00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:57,721
it has to be better for the consumer.
411
00:21:57,721 --> 00:22:00,048
It has to not be just more complicated.
412
00:22:00,048 --> 00:22:02,805
It has to be easier to use, less work,
413
00:22:02,805 --> 00:22:06,722
and do more for you and
all that kind of stuff.
414
00:22:07,881 --> 00:22:09,761
- The first year that the Amiga was out,
415
00:22:09,761 --> 00:22:13,462
the Amiga outperformed
the Apple Macintosh.
416
00:22:13,462 --> 00:22:14,772
It outperformed it in sales,
417
00:22:14,772 --> 00:22:18,105
it outperformed it in user satisfaction.
418
00:22:18,946 --> 00:22:21,397
- And here comes this
thing that just demolishes
419
00:22:21,397 --> 00:22:24,140
what we think a home computer can do.
420
00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:26,918
It just completely changed everything.
421
00:22:26,918 --> 00:22:29,751
(soft rock music)
422
00:22:44,386 --> 00:22:47,136
(dramatic music)
423
00:22:52,882 --> 00:22:54,660
- This was the
first time where people
424
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:56,179
could create the kind of media
425
00:22:56,179 --> 00:22:59,346
that they were watching on television.
426
00:23:01,095 --> 00:23:02,643
So if you wanted to do anything
427
00:23:02,643 --> 00:23:05,264
that was multimedia oriented,
428
00:23:05,264 --> 00:23:08,201
you were doing it on an Amiga.
429
00:23:08,201 --> 00:23:09,067
- A lot of different people
430
00:23:09,067 --> 00:23:10,526
did a lot of different things.
431
00:23:10,526 --> 00:23:12,831
Some people were doing 3D modeling on it.
432
00:23:12,831 --> 00:23:14,064
If you go to the movies these days,
433
00:23:14,064 --> 00:23:17,064
you're probably gonna see some CGI.
434
00:23:18,028 --> 00:23:21,954
That was giving people a tool
they had never had before.
435
00:23:21,954 --> 00:23:23,520
- Video capabilities.
436
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,353
Video capabilities beyond compare.
437
00:23:28,269 --> 00:23:30,604
- I had Deluxe Video,
438
00:23:30,604 --> 00:23:31,804
which I think came out in 1986,
439
00:23:31,804 --> 00:23:34,616
which is kind of amazing
when you think about
440
00:23:34,616 --> 00:23:38,479
a video production program on
your home computer in 1986.
441
00:23:38,479 --> 00:23:41,793
- Graphics, there was a program
442
00:23:41,793 --> 00:23:44,414
that came out pretty
early called Deluxe Paint
443
00:23:44,414 --> 00:23:45,921
that allowed you to draw onscreen
444
00:23:45,921 --> 00:23:47,969
but because you could see
a whole lot more colors
445
00:23:47,969 --> 00:23:49,087
than on a PC,
446
00:23:49,087 --> 00:23:51,230
there was a whole generation of artists
447
00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:52,947
who found a use for computers
448
00:23:52,947 --> 00:23:55,697
they never would have had before.
449
00:23:57,189 --> 00:23:58,966
- The Amiga was an instrument
450
00:23:58,966 --> 00:24:00,499
and like a good instrument,
451
00:24:00,499 --> 00:24:02,934
if it's a piano or a flute or a violin,
452
00:24:02,934 --> 00:24:04,743
you use the instrument to express yourself
453
00:24:04,743 --> 00:24:08,856
and the Amiga was like what the
guitar was for Jimi Hendrix.
454
00:24:08,856 --> 00:24:10,439
- We knew how to play it
455
00:24:10,439 --> 00:24:14,447
and we could even play
the Amiga like this.
456
00:24:14,447 --> 00:24:16,825
- I made lots of paintings
with gradients in Digi-Paint.
457
00:24:16,825 --> 00:24:17,668
Digi-Paint was my favorite.
458
00:24:17,668 --> 00:24:19,234
I know most people were Deluxe Paint II,
459
00:24:19,234 --> 00:24:21,363
Deluxe Paint III aficionados
460
00:24:21,363 --> 00:24:23,696
but I was a Digi-Paint girl.
461
00:24:27,016 --> 00:24:29,468
- Amiga was marketed
462
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:32,301
as a computer for creative people.
463
00:24:35,506 --> 00:24:38,902
(doorbell rings)
464
00:24:38,902 --> 00:24:40,271
- Aren't you astronauts?
465
00:24:40,271 --> 00:24:41,245
- Buzz Aldrin.
466
00:24:41,245 --> 00:24:42,078
- Gordon Cooper.
467
00:24:42,078 --> 00:24:42,911
- Scott Carpenter.
468
00:24:42,911 --> 00:24:44,424
- We'd like to compare notes with Stevie
469
00:24:44,424 --> 00:24:46,507
on the new space station.
470
00:24:48,844 --> 00:24:49,677
- Hello?
471
00:24:49,677 --> 00:24:51,288
- Hi, Tommy Lasorda for Stevie.
472
00:24:51,288 --> 00:24:52,121
- Hey, what's up?
473
00:24:52,121 --> 00:24:53,569
- [Tommy] Just a question
about moving Randolph
474
00:24:53,569 --> 00:24:55,095
to the number two position.
475
00:24:55,095 --> 00:24:56,676
- [Stevie] Yeah, second
and this will work.
476
00:24:56,676 --> 00:24:57,509
It's perfect.
477
00:24:57,509 --> 00:24:58,342
- [Pointer Sister] Hi.
478
00:24:58,342 --> 00:24:59,175
- Hi.
479
00:24:59,175 --> 00:25:00,068
- We're the Pointer Sisters.
480
00:25:00,068 --> 00:25:01,459
Stevie's expecting us.
481
00:25:01,459 --> 00:25:02,628
- Well come in.
482
00:25:02,628 --> 00:25:05,119
- We need help with our new album.
483
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,566
- Burt Bacharach.
484
00:25:06,566 --> 00:25:07,445
- Little Richard.
485
00:25:07,445 --> 00:25:08,415
- [TV Announcer] The Amiga,
486
00:25:08,415 --> 00:25:10,815
color, sound, graphics, power,
487
00:25:10,815 --> 00:25:12,304
at a price to make it truly
488
00:25:12,304 --> 00:25:15,741
the computer for the creative mind.
489
00:25:15,741 --> 00:25:16,718
What can the Amiga do?
490
00:25:16,718 --> 00:25:17,885
Well what do you want it to do?
491
00:25:17,885 --> 00:25:19,612
(doorbell rings)
492
00:25:19,612 --> 00:25:21,053
- Huh, Mr. O'Neill.
493
00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:23,135
Stevie is upstairs but
it's kind of crowded.
494
00:25:23,135 --> 00:25:27,302
Would you like some fried
chicken while you're waiting?
495
00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:30,078
- [TV Announcer] Amiga from Commodore.
496
00:25:30,078 --> 00:25:32,995
The computer for the creative mind.
497
00:25:34,275 --> 00:25:37,942
- Then, everything
changes with the Toaster.
498
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:42,717
This plug-in card turned your Amiga
499
00:25:42,717 --> 00:25:46,217
into such a powerful video creation system
500
00:25:49,453 --> 00:25:52,634
that you could run an honest-to-goodness
501
00:25:52,634 --> 00:25:55,790
professional organization on them.
502
00:25:55,790 --> 00:25:57,916
- [TV Announcer] There's
never been anything like it.
503
00:25:57,916 --> 00:25:59,964
- [TV Announcer] The world's
first video work station.
504
00:25:59,964 --> 00:26:00,860
- [TV Announcer] That's what it is.
505
00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,664
Putting the power of video
in the hands of the people.
506
00:26:03,664 --> 00:26:05,782
People like you and me.
507
00:26:05,782 --> 00:26:06,797
- The Video Toaster was created
508
00:26:06,797 --> 00:26:10,807
to be an all-in-one
desktop production studio.
509
00:26:10,807 --> 00:26:13,735
We shipped it in 1990
and the Amiga computer
510
00:26:13,735 --> 00:26:15,863
is what made it possible.
511
00:26:15,863 --> 00:26:17,743
- Video communication
just was not available
512
00:26:17,743 --> 00:26:19,646
to the average guy.
513
00:26:19,646 --> 00:26:22,563
The Video Toaster changed all that.
514
00:26:24,662 --> 00:26:25,790
- It really leveled the playing field,
515
00:26:25,790 --> 00:26:29,165
that all of a sudden your stuff
516
00:26:29,165 --> 00:26:32,105
could look as pro as something
on broadcast television
517
00:26:32,105 --> 00:26:35,038
because it was in fact creating
work in the same quality.
518
00:26:35,038 --> 00:26:37,621
(upbeat music)
519
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:41,965
- And back in the day
before the Video Toaster,
520
00:26:41,965 --> 00:26:44,237
you really had to be a
member of the priesthood
521
00:26:44,237 --> 00:26:47,599
to have access to the kinds
of tools that you could use.
522
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:49,441
You had to be working at a TV station
523
00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:51,263
or working for a big production house
524
00:26:51,263 --> 00:26:53,385
and we were talking about
hundreds of thousands
525
00:26:53,385 --> 00:26:55,718
or even millions of dollars.
526
00:26:57,563 --> 00:27:02,390
- And that thing, at
that point, you were like,
527
00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:06,140
The Amiga is a audio
visual editing computer.
528
00:27:09,236 --> 00:27:10,386
- It was astonishing.
529
00:27:10,386 --> 00:27:12,912
And what was funny is that
when I became a teacher,
530
00:27:12,912 --> 00:27:14,401
and I would show other teachers
531
00:27:14,401 --> 00:27:15,984
in other departments this tool
532
00:27:15,984 --> 00:27:19,265
and say, "You know, instead
of buying this titling machine
533
00:27:19,265 --> 00:27:22,479
for $5,000, why don't you
buy one of these Toasters
534
00:27:22,479 --> 00:27:25,379
for the same money and
instead of having six fonts,
535
00:27:25,379 --> 00:27:27,922
you could have 600 and add more
536
00:27:27,922 --> 00:27:29,906
and have all this other stuff?"
537
00:27:29,906 --> 00:27:31,570
And the thing I was faced with
538
00:27:31,570 --> 00:27:33,730
was that well, you know computers are nice
539
00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:36,136
but they're not gonna
be a real important part
540
00:27:36,136 --> 00:27:37,514
of TV and film.
541
00:27:37,514 --> 00:27:39,527
- There's a lot of material to look at
542
00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,128
and not much time to do it in.
543
00:27:41,128 --> 00:27:43,082
So pull up your VCR and your Toaster
544
00:27:43,082 --> 00:27:44,915
and let's get started.
545
00:27:47,905 --> 00:27:51,250
- You know, NewTek back in
the day had a tiger by the tail
546
00:27:51,250 --> 00:27:52,520
with the Video Toaster.
547
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,060
Nobody really expected the Video Toaster
548
00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:57,786
to be that successful
except probably NewTek.
549
00:27:57,786 --> 00:27:59,001
- [TV Announcer] NewTek.
550
00:27:59,001 --> 00:28:01,834
(energetic music)
551
00:28:02,727 --> 00:28:05,810
- Now look at what they've brainstormed.
552
00:28:07,244 --> 00:28:09,063
The Video Toaster.
553
00:28:09,063 --> 00:28:10,424
- (Laughing) Yeah.
554
00:28:10,424 --> 00:28:12,153
Hi, my name is Penn Jillette.
555
00:28:12,153 --> 00:28:13,365
This is my partner Teller.
556
00:28:13,365 --> 00:28:16,710
We're Penn and Teller and
we're here to talk about taste.
557
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:19,223
We're making this video all by ourselves
558
00:28:19,223 --> 00:28:22,295
in a loft in Topeka, Kansas
using cheap home equipment
559
00:28:22,295 --> 00:28:25,767
and a new item, NewTek's Video Toaster.
560
00:28:25,767 --> 00:28:29,934
This little snazzy gizmo puts
all the power in your hands.
561
00:28:30,824 --> 00:28:33,576
But if you don't exercise taste,
562
00:28:33,576 --> 00:28:38,323
you're gonna end up with a
video full of solarization,
563
00:28:38,323 --> 00:28:39,156
mosaics,
564
00:28:40,405 --> 00:28:43,217
receding tiles and everything
else under the sun.
565
00:28:43,217 --> 00:28:45,038
In short, you're gonna
have a finished product
566
00:28:45,038 --> 00:28:47,426
that looks like a bad rock video.
567
00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:49,843
(rock music)
568
00:29:02,947 --> 00:29:07,114
- After we shipped it, it was
just kind of an explosion.
569
00:29:08,318 --> 00:29:12,271
I realized that with
personal computer technology
570
00:29:12,271 --> 00:29:14,463
at some point, it would be fast enough
571
00:29:14,463 --> 00:29:17,154
to do all those things.
572
00:29:17,154 --> 00:29:19,008
We set out to revolutionize video
573
00:29:19,008 --> 00:29:20,841
and I think we did it.
574
00:29:23,698 --> 00:29:27,178
I knew it was a good thing
but we were all shocked
575
00:29:27,178 --> 00:29:28,773
when we started shipping the Toaster,
576
00:29:28,773 --> 00:29:30,235
how many people wanted it.
577
00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:32,652
(rock music)
578
00:29:43,964 --> 00:29:46,330
- The following that you
have for Apple these days
579
00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:48,331
is the kind of religious zealots
580
00:29:48,331 --> 00:29:49,844
that we had following the Amiga.
581
00:29:49,844 --> 00:29:51,834
They were absolutely convinced
582
00:29:51,834 --> 00:29:54,110
that this was the next platform
583
00:29:54,110 --> 00:29:56,303
and everyone was super psyched.
584
00:29:56,303 --> 00:30:00,062
- The wild-eyed, the excited, the crazed,
585
00:30:00,062 --> 00:30:01,965
gotta create inventive things,
586
00:30:01,965 --> 00:30:03,916
gotta do fun stuff,
587
00:30:03,916 --> 00:30:07,471
gotta go out and change the world stuff.
588
00:30:07,471 --> 00:30:10,253
- 'Cause you weren't just a
person who bought an Amiga.
589
00:30:10,253 --> 00:30:12,254
You kind of bought into Amiga
590
00:30:12,254 --> 00:30:13,758
and that became your life
591
00:30:13,758 --> 00:30:16,154
and I have to admit I
was on board with that.
592
00:30:16,154 --> 00:30:16,987
Hi, everyone.
593
00:30:16,987 --> 00:30:18,342
I'm Bohuลก Blahut.
594
00:30:18,342 --> 00:30:20,905
You might recognize me
from the Catalyzer series
595
00:30:20,905 --> 00:30:24,385
of tutorial videos put
out by Legacy Maker.
596
00:30:24,385 --> 00:30:25,751
- [Kristen] Whenever I
could name drop the Amiga,
597
00:30:25,751 --> 00:30:27,241
like, oh, I use an Amiga
598
00:30:27,241 --> 00:30:30,994
or I'm still using an Amiga, I would.
599
00:30:30,994 --> 00:30:34,328
- 'Cause if you've ever met an Amiga fan,
600
00:30:34,328 --> 00:30:36,424
he's gonna tell you all about the Amiga
601
00:30:36,424 --> 00:30:38,017
and how everybody else got it wrong.
602
00:30:38,017 --> 00:30:42,184
- Amiga users make Macintosh
users look like IBM users.
603
00:30:43,816 --> 00:30:47,321
- It's like you are the secret
keeper of this great secret
604
00:30:47,321 --> 00:30:49,108
and you don't understand how
no one else has found out
605
00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:50,809
and you kind of want to spread it
606
00:30:50,809 --> 00:30:52,824
but more than anything you
just want to tell people,
607
00:30:52,824 --> 00:30:55,219
"Look, I've got this knowledge."
608
00:30:55,219 --> 00:30:57,654
- I actually moved from my dream job
609
00:30:57,654 --> 00:31:01,268
bartending on Waikiki Beach
to move to Silicon Valley
610
00:31:01,268 --> 00:31:05,018
so I could find a job
working with the Amiga.
611
00:31:07,303 --> 00:31:08,851
- If you were a creative guy,
612
00:31:08,851 --> 00:31:10,677
if you were a computer geek,
613
00:31:10,677 --> 00:31:11,780
this was it,
614
00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:13,197
this was nirvana.
615
00:31:14,509 --> 00:31:16,257
- Everything was new and open
616
00:31:16,257 --> 00:31:19,564
and people were just trying
to do really cool stuff.
617
00:31:19,564 --> 00:31:21,011
And a lot of them didn't even care,
618
00:31:21,011 --> 00:31:22,784
they weren't trying to make money off it
619
00:31:22,784 --> 00:31:23,624
they were just saying,
620
00:31:23,624 --> 00:31:25,717
"Hey, look at this neat
hack I came up with."
621
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,220
And they'd send out the source code.
622
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:28,268
Then you'd get it and say,
623
00:31:28,268 --> 00:31:30,691
"Look, hey, I can change it and do this."
624
00:31:30,691 --> 00:31:32,517
- You know, you didn't get a lot of people
625
00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:36,109
that were striving to become millionaires.
626
00:31:36,109 --> 00:31:38,004
You got a lot of people that were striving
627
00:31:38,004 --> 00:31:41,617
to find a way to express themselves
628
00:31:41,617 --> 00:31:44,788
or to create tools that
would allow other people
629
00:31:44,788 --> 00:31:48,670
to express themselves in
new and fascinating ways.
630
00:31:48,670 --> 00:31:51,900
- When I was working on Amiga hardware,
631
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:55,927
I also wrote Amiga software just for fun.
632
00:31:55,927 --> 00:31:59,596
- It's sort of like a Elks
Club of computer users.
633
00:31:59,596 --> 00:32:03,580
Once you're inside, there is
a special kind of camaraderie.
634
00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:06,776
If I was to find somebody
who was die hard Amiga user
635
00:32:06,776 --> 00:32:09,443
just on the street, we'd
talk for half hour or an hour
636
00:32:09,443 --> 00:32:10,584
about the Amiga.
637
00:32:10,584 --> 00:32:11,418
I know we would
638
00:32:11,418 --> 00:32:14,156
because if you're into it,
639
00:32:14,156 --> 00:32:15,511
it's the greatest thing in the world
640
00:32:15,511 --> 00:32:17,527
when you find somebody else who's into it.
641
00:32:17,527 --> 00:32:21,694
(group chatters)
(upbeat music)
642
00:32:34,346 --> 00:32:37,096
(dramatic music)
643
00:32:44,187 --> 00:32:45,588
- There had been a lot of fears
644
00:32:45,588 --> 00:32:47,907
and Commodore had had a bad year,
645
00:32:47,907 --> 00:32:49,315
probably the worst year ever
646
00:32:49,315 --> 00:32:51,148
for Christmas of 1993.
647
00:32:51,998 --> 00:32:54,952
The machines that people
wanted were not available
648
00:32:54,952 --> 00:32:58,660
and the ones that were
out were not selling.
649
00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:01,305
We were nervous and we knew something bad
650
00:33:01,305 --> 00:33:04,805
was probably gonna happen before too long.
651
00:33:06,308 --> 00:33:07,425
- Most companies that are in
652
00:33:07,425 --> 00:33:09,469
the consumer electronics marketplace,
653
00:33:09,469 --> 00:33:12,665
they do their trial balloons at CES,
654
00:33:12,665 --> 00:33:15,147
which is Consumer
Electronics Show in January,
655
00:33:15,147 --> 00:33:17,021
they take orders in June
656
00:33:17,021 --> 00:33:21,188
for whatever is gonna be the
hot thing that Christmas.
657
00:33:24,372 --> 00:33:26,256
If you screw up Christmas,
658
00:33:26,256 --> 00:33:29,357
in the consumer electronics
industry, you are dead.
659
00:33:29,357 --> 00:33:32,417
Most people only get like one
shot at that before they die.
660
00:33:32,417 --> 00:33:34,671
We actually had two shots at that.
661
00:33:34,671 --> 00:33:36,999
- There was a couple years
where the CEO and chairman
662
00:33:36,999 --> 00:33:38,840
were making more money at Commodore
663
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,538
than the CEO of IBM,
664
00:33:40,538 --> 00:33:41,447
the CEO of Apple,
665
00:33:41,447 --> 00:33:45,447
and we weren't doing
anywhere near the business.
666
00:33:50,150 --> 00:33:52,009
No matter what Commodore had done,
667
00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:54,987
we wouldn't have been able
to keep that going forever.
668
00:33:54,987 --> 00:33:56,747
- A lot of us had a feeling
669
00:33:56,747 --> 00:33:59,914
that something was wrong at Commodore.
670
00:34:03,418 --> 00:34:07,585
- We knew the PC and Windows
had taken over the market.
671
00:34:08,634 --> 00:34:11,967
We knew there wouldn't be an Amiga 5000.
672
00:34:18,258 --> 00:34:20,769
- When the news arrived
that they were going bankrupt,
673
00:34:20,769 --> 00:34:24,178
I mean it was the worst case scenario.
674
00:34:24,178 --> 00:34:25,343
- It was devastating.
675
00:34:25,343 --> 00:34:28,256
It was devastating for us
because our whole business was
676
00:34:28,256 --> 00:34:32,082
at that time was based on the
success of the Video Toaster
677
00:34:32,082 --> 00:34:36,249
and the success of the Video
Toaster was based on the Amiga.
678
00:34:37,873 --> 00:34:42,285
Then, we were just mired
in the horror of it.
679
00:34:42,285 --> 00:34:46,737
I was in shock and I
really couldn't figure out
680
00:34:46,737 --> 00:34:49,571
how we were gonna survive it.
681
00:34:49,571 --> 00:34:51,335
- My wife says it's kind of like
682
00:34:51,335 --> 00:34:53,544
I was in a divorce for a while
683
00:34:53,544 --> 00:34:56,826
because I was in all
these stages of denial.
684
00:34:56,826 --> 00:34:58,119
Was it something that I did?
685
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:00,536
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
686
00:35:03,333 --> 00:35:05,228
- There's not one single
thing I could've done
687
00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:06,566
to change the outcome
688
00:35:06,566 --> 00:35:09,563
and I reviewed that over and over again
689
00:35:09,563 --> 00:35:12,230
because technical people love the idea
690
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:14,491
that there's a technical fix to something.
691
00:35:14,491 --> 00:35:16,606
But the problems with
Commodore were not technical.
692
00:35:16,606 --> 00:35:20,773
They were managerial and there's
nothing we could've done.
693
00:35:23,059 --> 00:35:25,875
- We were trying desperately
694
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:27,896
as engineers in the company
695
00:35:27,896 --> 00:35:32,063
to try and find somebody that
would acquire us, buy us.
696
00:35:35,504 --> 00:35:39,337
But unfortunately, none
of that was to be had.
697
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:47,073
- (heavy sigh)
698
00:35:51,175 --> 00:35:52,368
I never did really understand
699
00:35:52,368 --> 00:35:55,451
why the Amiga wasn't more successful.
700
00:35:56,669 --> 00:35:59,669
We often blamed the marketing people
701
00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:03,936
and I think there was a lot of room there
702
00:36:03,936 --> 00:36:06,436
to blame the marketing people.
703
00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:11,146
- Marketing is like a big jigsaw puzzle.
704
00:36:11,146 --> 00:36:12,727
It's a whole bunch of pieces
705
00:36:12,727 --> 00:36:14,266
you got to put together the right way,
706
00:36:14,266 --> 00:36:17,716
otherwise the picture
doesn't look very good.
707
00:36:17,716 --> 00:36:19,753
- They did some wacky things.
708
00:36:19,753 --> 00:36:23,964
If you have never seen the
first launch commercial
709
00:36:23,964 --> 00:36:27,177
for the Amiga computer,
you ought to go see it
710
00:36:27,177 --> 00:36:28,844
if you'd like a laugh.
711
00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:32,539
There's a monitor on a pedestal
712
00:36:32,539 --> 00:36:33,721
and the light is glowing
713
00:36:33,721 --> 00:36:35,594
and the baby is born
714
00:36:35,594 --> 00:36:39,879
and it's glowing in the
light of the amazing monitor,
715
00:36:39,879 --> 00:36:41,046
glowing Amiga.
716
00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:46,141
What the hell was that?
717
00:36:46,141 --> 00:36:48,220
Most people were left
like, "What did that mean?"
718
00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:52,252
And sadly that first
commercial set the trend
719
00:36:52,252 --> 00:36:55,098
for what marketing would prove to be like
720
00:36:55,098 --> 00:36:58,931
for that machine over
the first several years.
721
00:36:59,814 --> 00:37:01,802
- Dollar for dollar
nothing can even come close
722
00:37:01,802 --> 00:37:03,838
to the Amiga 3000.
723
00:37:03,838 --> 00:37:05,511
By, the way, how are we coming
724
00:37:05,511 --> 00:37:07,414
on the Liquid Scrubbo presentations?
725
00:37:07,414 --> 00:37:09,095
- I beg your pardon?
726
00:37:09,095 --> 00:37:13,491
- You know, oh, I guess I
didn't introduce myself.
727
00:37:13,491 --> 00:37:16,741
I'm Bob Lewis, the new VP of Marketing.
728
00:37:22,596 --> 00:37:25,363
- They wanted to sell to business.
729
00:37:25,363 --> 00:37:29,299
That was a little tough
'cause it looked so awesome.
730
00:37:29,299 --> 00:37:32,160
It's very hard for what essentially seems
731
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,327
like a combination of a jukebox
and a music video channel
732
00:37:37,527 --> 00:37:41,194
to claim that it's
really good for business.
733
00:37:43,922 --> 00:37:46,996
Atari had the same problem.
734
00:37:46,996 --> 00:37:50,332
- In the United States, instead
of putting the Amiga 500
735
00:37:50,332 --> 00:37:53,082
into Toys'R'Us or Kmart or Sears,
736
00:37:54,803 --> 00:37:57,564
we put it into professional
computer stores
737
00:37:57,564 --> 00:38:00,407
because we brought in folks from Apple
738
00:38:00,407 --> 00:38:02,967
that knew how to take
a Macintosh at the time
739
00:38:02,967 --> 00:38:05,267
and sell that for about $2,500.
740
00:38:05,267 --> 00:38:06,251
So they were thinking,
741
00:38:06,251 --> 00:38:10,589
"Hey, we know how to
sell high end computers."
742
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:11,833
I didn't design a high end computer.
743
00:38:11,833 --> 00:38:13,464
This is a $500 game machine.
744
00:38:13,464 --> 00:38:15,696
Please put it in Toys'R'Us.
745
00:38:15,696 --> 00:38:17,355
I can still remember the Apple guy
746
00:38:17,355 --> 00:38:19,083
putting his arm around my shoulder saying,
747
00:38:19,083 --> 00:38:23,051
"Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, had
this discussion with Steve.
748
00:38:23,051 --> 00:38:25,116
I'm having it with you.
749
00:38:25,116 --> 00:38:28,616
Don't worry, I'll take care of your baby."
750
00:38:34,264 --> 00:38:36,680
Rolling my eyes there.
751
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,987
- The PR department of
Commodore talking about Amiga
752
00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:42,820
was all about the art.
753
00:38:43,678 --> 00:38:46,809
They were like, "We are
the artists' computer."
754
00:38:46,809 --> 00:38:48,954
I mean, this is a company
that hired Andy Warhol
755
00:38:48,954 --> 00:38:52,923
to draw on an Amiga in
front of a crowd of people
756
00:38:52,923 --> 00:38:55,722
to show you how awesome it was
757
00:38:55,722 --> 00:38:59,472
and how it was perfect
and they had B.B. King
758
00:39:00,458 --> 00:39:02,744
talking about how he
was gonna use an Amiga
759
00:39:02,744 --> 00:39:04,844
to make music from now on.
760
00:39:04,844 --> 00:39:06,937
And so, they were like,
761
00:39:06,937 --> 00:39:10,395
"Let's get established
artists we can afford
762
00:39:10,395 --> 00:39:12,588
and have them stand next to Amiga
763
00:39:12,588 --> 00:39:15,755
so you can be as cool as that artist."
764
00:39:18,443 --> 00:39:22,054
And IBM, which had given
up itself to clones,
765
00:39:22,054 --> 00:39:24,373
ended up winning that game
766
00:39:24,373 --> 00:39:27,320
because here you go, boring,
767
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,237
dependable,
768
00:39:29,503 --> 00:39:31,670
made by a bunch of people,
769
00:39:33,189 --> 00:39:35,268
we'll be here next year.
770
00:39:35,268 --> 00:39:38,747
And they ground everybody else down.
771
00:39:38,747 --> 00:39:41,080
(sad music)
772
00:39:46,477 --> 00:39:50,348
- I think that Amiga could
have had a different future
773
00:39:50,348 --> 00:39:53,260
if they would have focused
on what they were good at.
774
00:39:53,260 --> 00:39:55,658
This machine, this do it yourself machine
775
00:39:55,658 --> 00:39:57,911
for the graphical artist
776
00:39:57,911 --> 00:40:01,750
and I'm sure that new things
would have come out of that.
777
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:03,583
They tried to be a PC.
778
00:40:05,651 --> 00:40:09,818
You should never try to be
something that you are not.
779
00:40:13,066 --> 00:40:16,840
- But even if sales in the U.S. were zero,
780
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,406
Commodore still would have lived
781
00:40:18,406 --> 00:40:20,774
because the other 90% of the revenue
782
00:40:20,774 --> 00:40:22,286
was from the rest of the world
783
00:40:22,286 --> 00:40:26,453
that did figure out that
this was the next generation.
784
00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:28,558
- With the right software support,
785
00:40:28,558 --> 00:40:30,160
I don't see any reason why
we couldn't have garnered
786
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,910
a much larger market
share and maintained it.
787
00:40:36,124 --> 00:40:37,565
- I have very little love
788
00:40:37,565 --> 00:40:40,207
for Commodore as an organization.
789
00:40:40,207 --> 00:40:41,631
It's like finding out a guy
790
00:40:41,631 --> 00:40:43,324
who constantly shot himself in the foot
791
00:40:43,324 --> 00:40:45,407
finally got it amputated.
792
00:40:47,022 --> 00:40:49,854
- If you don't market it right,
793
00:40:49,854 --> 00:40:52,353
if you waste all your money on air freight
794
00:40:52,353 --> 00:40:55,270
and mistiming and things like this,
795
00:40:56,398 --> 00:40:58,065
not much you can do.
796
00:40:59,321 --> 00:41:03,245
- I never saw a Commodore
that had a central leader
797
00:41:03,245 --> 00:41:05,660
or anyone who felt like a leader.
798
00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:09,388
At Apple, everyone knew
Jobs was in charge.
799
00:41:09,388 --> 00:41:13,555
At Commodore, it really wasn't
clear who was in charge.
800
00:41:16,345 --> 00:41:19,342
- The waste, the mismanagement,
801
00:41:19,342 --> 00:41:23,259
the terrible decisions
that just ruined things,
802
00:41:25,479 --> 00:41:26,562
it's endemic,
803
00:41:28,814 --> 00:41:30,304
the patient's terminal,
804
00:41:30,304 --> 00:41:32,721
it's living in spite of them.
805
00:41:36,365 --> 00:41:39,918
- The product actually never failed.
806
00:41:39,918 --> 00:41:40,751
The people around it,
807
00:41:40,751 --> 00:41:41,920
the companies around it,
808
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,476
those were the people that failed.
809
00:41:44,476 --> 00:41:47,502
If it would have had a
Steve Jobs running it
810
00:41:47,502 --> 00:41:50,302
instead of a Tom Rattigan.
811
00:41:50,302 --> 00:41:52,064
- It was about brand loyalty.
812
00:41:52,064 --> 00:41:53,216
It was about marketing.
813
00:41:53,216 --> 00:41:55,743
And those are the things
that Commodore did badly.
814
00:41:55,743 --> 00:41:57,811
I think that they didn't
know how to market it.
815
00:41:57,811 --> 00:41:59,840
How do you market a multimedia machine
816
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,923
before multimedia exists?
817
00:42:08,395 --> 00:42:10,798
It would've revolutionized things earlier,
818
00:42:10,798 --> 00:42:12,465
quite a bit earlier.
819
00:42:13,363 --> 00:42:17,530
I guess that that's ultimately
the tragedy of the Amiga.
820
00:42:20,060 --> 00:42:23,143
(soft ambient music)
821
00:42:30,682 --> 00:42:33,245
- Being part of the
Amiga community and an insider,
822
00:42:33,245 --> 00:42:36,162
I kept following what was going on.
823
00:42:38,135 --> 00:42:40,301
Two weeks from now there's
gonna be some great announcement
824
00:42:40,301 --> 00:42:44,286
about somebody coming along
to buy the Amiga assets
825
00:42:44,286 --> 00:42:46,536
and that went on for years.
826
00:42:47,778 --> 00:42:49,485
- Intellectual property was basically sold
827
00:42:49,485 --> 00:42:53,152
to a PC company out of
Germany called Escom.
828
00:42:54,085 --> 00:42:58,143
- And Escom was the second
largest PC company in Europe.
829
00:42:58,143 --> 00:43:01,163
They contacted both myself and Andy Finkel
830
00:43:01,163 --> 00:43:03,546
and invited us over to talk with them
831
00:43:03,546 --> 00:43:04,927
about what they wanted to do
832
00:43:04,927 --> 00:43:07,678
with the future of the Amiga technology.
833
00:43:07,678 --> 00:43:09,868
- One of the personalities
that most defined
834
00:43:09,868 --> 00:43:14,035
the period of great uncertainty
was Petro Tyschtschenko.
835
00:43:17,132 --> 00:43:20,938
Petro was a former
Commodore Germany executive
836
00:43:20,938 --> 00:43:23,831
who was brought in by Escom
as one of the directors
837
00:43:23,831 --> 00:43:27,488
of their Amiga Technologies division.
838
00:43:27,488 --> 00:43:30,105
- They resurrected
the Amiga 1200 line
839
00:43:30,105 --> 00:43:33,256
and they resurrected
the Amiga 4000T line.
840
00:43:33,256 --> 00:43:35,336
- And the people were really happy, right?
841
00:43:35,336 --> 00:43:37,039
Because we have no break.
842
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,404
There was a shortage of course of A1200s
843
00:43:39,404 --> 00:43:43,372
during the bankruptcy
but then suddenly A1200
844
00:43:43,372 --> 00:43:45,100
could be delivered, right?
845
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:46,414
This was great for everybody
846
00:43:46,414 --> 00:43:48,381
and for the dealers as well.
847
00:43:48,381 --> 00:43:50,527
So the community was satisfied,
848
00:43:50,527 --> 00:43:51,998
the dealers were satisfied,
849
00:43:51,998 --> 00:43:53,407
the business was running
850
00:43:53,407 --> 00:43:55,240
and it was great time.
851
00:43:58,731 --> 00:44:02,898
- And Petro was in so many
ways exactly what Amiga users
852
00:44:04,516 --> 00:44:06,505
had been asking for.
853
00:44:06,505 --> 00:44:08,755
He cared about Amiga users.
854
00:44:09,657 --> 00:44:11,783
Finally they want to be our friends,
855
00:44:11,783 --> 00:44:13,561
they want to listen to us,
856
00:44:13,561 --> 00:44:16,740
they want to sit down to dinner with us.
857
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:18,893
Petro was Santa Claus.
858
00:44:18,893 --> 00:44:21,831
He would hand out Amiga branded pens
859
00:44:21,831 --> 00:44:23,831
and pins and mouse pads.
860
00:44:24,982 --> 00:44:28,188
He had a dance band that
would come and perform
861
00:44:28,188 --> 00:44:29,515
at Amiga shows.
862
00:44:29,515 --> 00:44:32,098
(upbeat music)
863
00:44:38,651 --> 00:44:42,818
Petro was great and for a
little while things looked good.
864
00:44:54,348 --> 00:44:55,856
- They later went out of business
865
00:44:55,856 --> 00:44:59,290
'cause they didn't manage
their inventory too well
866
00:44:59,290 --> 00:45:03,457
in the PC marketplace and it
basically fizzled on the vine.
867
00:45:06,824 --> 00:45:10,991
- There was a bunch of
hot potato stuff going on.
868
00:45:13,268 --> 00:45:17,640
- In Spring of 1997,
Gateway acquires the Amiga assets
869
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,390
from the leftover shell of Escom.
870
00:45:24,004 --> 00:45:26,587
- Gateway didn't really
care about the Amiga.
871
00:45:26,587 --> 00:45:28,037
Ultimately, they just didn't do anything
872
00:45:28,037 --> 00:45:29,259
with the operating system
873
00:45:29,259 --> 00:45:30,419
and they ended up licensing it
874
00:45:30,419 --> 00:45:34,586
to this tiny little group of
people out in Washington state.
875
00:45:36,409 --> 00:45:37,849
The Amiga people kept holding out hope
876
00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:39,731
for year after year after
year that something better
877
00:45:39,731 --> 00:45:43,601
was gonna come along from a real company.
878
00:45:43,601 --> 00:45:46,879
They kept lowering their expectations.
879
00:45:46,879 --> 00:45:48,609
It's like the woman who wants to marry.
880
00:45:48,609 --> 00:45:50,704
When she's 20 she's
looking at the movie star
881
00:45:50,704 --> 00:45:54,012
but by the time she's 50
the guy with the bald hair
882
00:45:54,012 --> 00:45:56,929
and the potbelly looks pretty good.
883
00:45:58,485 --> 00:46:00,193
- I kept thinking, "The
Amiga's gonna rise again
884
00:46:00,193 --> 00:46:01,649
and it's gonna be the real Amiga.
885
00:46:01,649 --> 00:46:03,292
It's gonna be the 68000 platform
886
00:46:03,292 --> 00:46:05,266
or the PowerPC 603 platform
887
00:46:05,266 --> 00:46:07,954
and it's gonna have
this organic connection
888
00:46:07,954 --> 00:46:09,621
to the Amiga of old.
889
00:46:19,468 --> 00:46:21,581
- There have been a variety of attempts
890
00:46:21,581 --> 00:46:24,414
to bring Amiga-like hardware back.
891
00:46:26,511 --> 00:46:29,196
- The many heirs to the Amiga legacy.
892
00:46:29,196 --> 00:46:32,446
- And they have pretty much all failed.
893
00:46:36,192 --> 00:46:39,608
- Even after Commodore
was gone, they clung to it.
894
00:46:39,608 --> 00:46:43,635
It was a way of life I
think for a lot of people.
895
00:46:43,635 --> 00:46:48,185
- That says Petro Tyschtschenko,
Northwest Amiga Group, no?
896
00:46:48,185 --> 00:46:49,868
Life Member.
897
00:46:49,868 --> 00:46:51,276
- Instead of going, I suppose,
898
00:46:51,276 --> 00:46:52,652
like most people my age would have been,
899
00:46:52,652 --> 00:46:56,819
to a modern computer like
an IBM clone of some kind,
900
00:46:58,169 --> 00:47:00,251
I saved up all my money,
901
00:47:00,251 --> 00:47:02,584
went to softhut.com in 2000,
902
00:47:04,121 --> 00:47:08,409
and purchased a brand
new in box, new old stock
903
00:47:08,409 --> 00:47:10,492
Amiga 1200HD Magic Pack.
904
00:47:12,506 --> 00:47:14,139
When software developers
really started falling
905
00:47:14,139 --> 00:47:15,696
off the way side and when games
906
00:47:15,696 --> 00:47:16,699
really stopped being developed
907
00:47:16,699 --> 00:47:18,555
it was about, how can I keep this going?
908
00:47:18,555 --> 00:47:21,576
What hacks can I use
to solve this problem?
909
00:47:21,576 --> 00:47:24,089
I was also like, "Look, look this thing.
910
00:47:24,089 --> 00:47:27,609
It can still do things in 2004, in 2005."
911
00:47:27,609 --> 00:47:29,707
It wasn't until 2005 that the Amiga 1200
912
00:47:29,707 --> 00:47:32,290
stopped being my main computer.
913
00:47:33,687 --> 00:47:35,684
- When I started there's no
way I thought I'd be involved
914
00:47:35,684 --> 00:47:39,434
in producing new hardware
for the Amiga in 2010.
915
00:47:41,843 --> 00:47:45,926
We're now ready to introduce
the AmigaOne X1000.
916
00:47:46,981 --> 00:47:50,898
The X1000 was developed
by Amigans for Amigans.
917
00:47:51,959 --> 00:47:53,943
All of the software guys involved
918
00:47:53,943 --> 00:47:57,707
have been Amiga users and Amiga developers
919
00:47:57,707 --> 00:47:59,540
for the last 20 years.
920
00:48:01,006 --> 00:48:03,640
- There are people who say that,
921
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,683
"Oh, for the Amiga to be
truly great, it should die."
922
00:48:06,683 --> 00:48:09,865
And that everyone will
think of it as a classic
923
00:48:09,865 --> 00:48:12,282
but I've never felt that way.
924
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:15,928
I keep thinking it should
keep on progressing,
925
00:48:15,928 --> 00:48:17,511
keep going further.
926
00:48:23,873 --> 00:48:26,456
- [Trevor] We're running AmigaOS 4.
927
00:48:26,456 --> 00:48:28,184
You pick it up and start using it,
928
00:48:28,184 --> 00:48:30,861
you feel like you're using
an Amiga operating system.
929
00:48:30,861 --> 00:48:35,028
We have beta testers from 22
countries around the world.
930
00:48:38,779 --> 00:48:42,779
- You're fighting such an
integrated industry now
931
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:48,348
that I don't know if there's any room
932
00:48:48,348 --> 00:48:50,031
for a third computer company
933
00:48:50,031 --> 00:48:52,803
but they keep trying because man,
934
00:48:52,803 --> 00:48:55,827
if you're the third computer company
935
00:48:55,827 --> 00:48:57,311
and you're actually a success,
936
00:48:57,311 --> 00:48:59,524
you are making bank.
937
00:48:59,524 --> 00:49:00,691
So they do it.
938
00:49:02,132 --> 00:49:03,584
- If I was to be totally honest,
939
00:49:03,584 --> 00:49:06,659
the AmigaOne X1000 is
not a commercial venture.
940
00:49:06,659 --> 00:49:09,524
It's the love of my life.
941
00:49:09,524 --> 00:49:12,099
I've put a lot of money, time
and effort into this project
942
00:49:12,099 --> 00:49:13,862
which I will not get back.
943
00:49:13,862 --> 00:49:17,195
- What people want is the same aesthetic
944
00:49:18,724 --> 00:49:21,641
and engineering quality and freedom
945
00:49:22,904 --> 00:49:27,438
to bring the best of what
silicon and metal have to offer
946
00:49:27,438 --> 00:49:29,521
to the computer industry.
947
00:49:30,529 --> 00:49:32,512
That's what they want.
948
00:49:32,512 --> 00:49:36,288
- I'm really, really proud
with the hardware we produced.
949
00:49:36,288 --> 00:49:39,405
I just hope that the Amiga
community will enjoy it
950
00:49:39,405 --> 00:49:42,929
as much as I'm going to when I get mine.
951
00:49:42,929 --> 00:49:47,096
Let's keep this party going,
as we say on the board.
952
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:58,495
- Because we use computers so much,
953
00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:01,538
our identity becomes connected
954
00:50:01,538 --> 00:50:03,615
with the computer system we use.
955
00:50:03,615 --> 00:50:06,000
You become a Windows person,
956
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,967
you become a Mac person,
957
00:50:07,967 --> 00:50:09,183
you become an Amiga person,
958
00:50:09,183 --> 00:50:10,530
you become an Atari XL person,
959
00:50:10,530 --> 00:50:11,780
a Linux person.
960
00:50:15,299 --> 00:50:18,079
IBM is this big market player,
961
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,720
is this big we sell to corporations,
962
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:22,990
we run the super computers of the world.
963
00:50:22,990 --> 00:50:25,853
Oh, you play games, you're an Amiga user.
964
00:50:25,853 --> 00:50:28,409
You're a Macintosh user,
you think you're creative.
965
00:50:28,409 --> 00:50:29,710
You're part of that.
966
00:50:29,710 --> 00:50:32,127
You become part of that idea.
967
00:50:35,902 --> 00:50:40,135
- The more you find that
this thing, whatever it is,
968
00:50:40,135 --> 00:50:42,250
is the thing that pushes your buttons,
969
00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:43,977
the more likely you
are to stick through it
970
00:50:43,977 --> 00:50:45,194
through thick and thin
971
00:50:45,194 --> 00:50:48,953
and we had people who just kept believing
972
00:50:48,953 --> 00:50:53,036
and there are still people
who just keep believing.
973
00:50:55,483 --> 00:51:00,410
- The feeling with the Amiga
is that the human being
974
00:51:00,410 --> 00:51:03,613
is in the middle and the Amiga is around.
975
00:51:03,613 --> 00:51:05,706
If the PC, the PC is in the middle,
976
00:51:05,706 --> 00:51:09,539
and you have to do what
the PC is telling you.
977
00:51:13,945 --> 00:51:17,695
- We were trying to take
on Microsoft and IBM
978
00:51:18,721 --> 00:51:23,634
but we didn't actually see
ourselves as competitors
979
00:51:23,634 --> 00:51:26,630
with that machine because
we saw that machine
980
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:29,257
as a machine that wore the suit and tie
981
00:51:29,257 --> 00:51:31,635
whereas our machine would be the one
982
00:51:31,635 --> 00:51:35,017
that wore the colorful
ascot and the beanie
983
00:51:35,017 --> 00:51:37,221
and would be the machine
984
00:51:37,221 --> 00:51:39,054
that people were really comfortable using,
985
00:51:39,054 --> 00:51:40,305
not the one that they would have
986
00:51:40,305 --> 00:51:43,138
to dress up and go to work to use.
987
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:50,667
- People don't so much have
computers as a hobby anymore.
988
00:51:51,735 --> 00:51:53,998
When I got started I had a Commodore PET
989
00:51:53,998 --> 00:51:56,586
and a VIC-20 and a Commodore 64.
990
00:51:56,586 --> 00:51:58,400
I had the whole lineup, right?
991
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,697
And this was kind of, I was tinkering,
992
00:52:00,697 --> 00:52:01,869
it was a hobby for me.
993
00:52:01,869 --> 00:52:05,579
I don't know that people really
consider a computer a hobby.
994
00:52:05,579 --> 00:52:06,472
It's more of an appliance.
995
00:52:06,472 --> 00:52:09,256
It's a way to do other stuff.
996
00:52:09,256 --> 00:52:11,593
It's a way to read email and surf the web
997
00:52:11,593 --> 00:52:13,974
and all this other kind of stuff.
998
00:52:13,974 --> 00:52:15,762
- I don't care what PC it is.
999
00:52:15,762 --> 00:52:18,599
If it's a little faster I'll
change a few boards in mine.
1000
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:20,920
A regular person would probably
go out and buy a new one
1001
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,537
but you've got no emotional
attachment whatsoever
1002
00:52:22,537 --> 00:52:23,433
to that computer.
1003
00:52:23,433 --> 00:52:25,144
It's just a tool.
1004
00:52:25,144 --> 00:52:27,671
I've got a bunch of hammers.
1005
00:52:27,671 --> 00:52:29,048
I use this hammer for this
1006
00:52:29,048 --> 00:52:30,106
and that hammer for that
1007
00:52:30,106 --> 00:52:32,299
and I have some really good hammers.
1008
00:52:32,299 --> 00:52:33,799
I've got one I've owned for 30 years
1009
00:52:33,799 --> 00:52:34,795
and it's a great hammer
1010
00:52:34,795 --> 00:52:38,813
but if I lost it it wouldn't
be the end of the world.
1011
00:52:38,813 --> 00:52:40,249
It wasn't just a tool.
1012
00:52:40,249 --> 00:52:42,916
It was part of something bigger.
1013
00:52:45,210 --> 00:52:48,710
- We were so young and naive and innocent.
1014
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,513
It really felt like we
could change the world,
1015
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,880
we could make a better
place for us all to live.
1016
00:53:11,189 --> 00:53:12,022
- [Kristen] I think there's this feeling
1017
00:53:12,022 --> 00:53:13,325
of like something that was lost,
1018
00:53:13,325 --> 00:53:16,158
something that you can't get back.
1019
00:53:26,837 --> 00:53:29,587
(chiptune music)
1020
00:53:39,512 --> 00:53:40,667
- My name's cTrix.
1021
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,783
I'm from Australia and I write
music on a Commodore Amiga.
1022
00:53:43,783 --> 00:53:46,533
(chiptune music)
1023
00:53:55,338 --> 00:53:57,491
Blipfest is a festival
here in New York City
1024
00:53:57,491 --> 00:54:00,563
and it's been going now
for a fair number of years
1025
00:54:00,563 --> 00:54:02,530
and it's basically a showcase
1026
00:54:02,530 --> 00:54:06,697
of a whole lot of chip
artists from around the globe.
1027
00:54:08,601 --> 00:54:09,923
Chiptune music is the art
1028
00:54:09,923 --> 00:54:13,316
of taking a games console
or a computer console
1029
00:54:13,316 --> 00:54:16,465
from the days when they
made their own sound,
1030
00:54:16,465 --> 00:54:17,679
the blips and the bloops,
1031
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:22,036
before you had just a
full CD quality soundtrack
1032
00:54:22,036 --> 00:54:23,284
and you take those old machines
1033
00:54:23,284 --> 00:54:25,951
and try to write music for them.
1034
00:54:28,114 --> 00:54:29,602
Within that restriction is the beauty
1035
00:54:29,602 --> 00:54:31,526
of trying to make a track
1036
00:54:31,526 --> 00:54:33,159
and get it within the constraints
1037
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:35,429
and I guess that's one of the reasons
1038
00:54:35,429 --> 00:54:37,346
why I love the machine.
1039
00:54:39,543 --> 00:54:41,772
It sounds amazing for
its age and its vintage.
1040
00:54:41,772 --> 00:54:44,070
For a machine that was from 1984
1041
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:46,294
that has the capability that it has,
1042
00:54:46,294 --> 00:54:49,045
it's just absolutely incredible.
1043
00:54:49,045 --> 00:54:51,795
(chiptune music)
1044
00:55:01,513 --> 00:55:03,504
- Matthew Simmonds otherwise known as 4mat
1045
00:55:03,504 --> 00:55:05,504
and I'm a chip musician.
1046
00:55:09,738 --> 00:55:11,929
The Amiga computer was
one of the first times
1047
00:55:11,929 --> 00:55:15,722
that cheap multitrack sampling
was available to masses
1048
00:55:15,722 --> 00:55:18,077
because once the Amiga 500 came out,
1049
00:55:18,077 --> 00:55:20,139
it was like 300 quid and every kid
1050
00:55:20,139 --> 00:55:24,425
who wanted to make DJ mixes
or sort of hip hop tracks
1051
00:55:24,425 --> 00:55:26,764
could just go out and get an Amiga
1052
00:55:26,764 --> 00:55:29,097
for their Christmas present.
1053
00:55:30,341 --> 00:55:34,508
So without the Amiga I wouldn't
be doing what I'm doing now.
1054
00:55:36,324 --> 00:55:38,799
- My current alias is Stagediver.
1055
00:55:38,799 --> 00:55:41,549
(chiptune music)
1056
00:55:45,624 --> 00:55:48,457
Tonight I'm using two Amiga 1200s.
1057
00:55:49,756 --> 00:55:53,187
One of them has been modified heavily.
1058
00:55:53,187 --> 00:55:56,020
The entire project is Amiga based.
1059
00:56:00,041 --> 00:56:03,291
The Amiga has this sort of personality.
1060
00:56:05,532 --> 00:56:09,144
You turn it on and you
become a part of it.
1061
00:56:09,144 --> 00:56:11,746
It demands your attention.
1062
00:56:11,746 --> 00:56:12,837
You tell it what to do.
1063
00:56:12,837 --> 00:56:14,864
It does it very well.
1064
00:56:14,864 --> 00:56:17,197
And all under two megabytes.
1065
00:56:18,293 --> 00:56:19,794
When I first discovered the Amiga,
1066
00:56:19,794 --> 00:56:23,461
I really realized that I
can use these computers
1067
00:56:23,461 --> 00:56:27,044
that I saw in school
in a way that I wanted
1068
00:56:28,130 --> 00:56:32,612
and made these awful noises
to piss of my parents
1069
00:56:32,612 --> 00:56:36,779
and really it's hard nowadays
to piss off your parents.
1070
00:56:37,718 --> 00:56:40,468
(screaming)
1071
00:56:53,922 --> 00:56:58,089
- It's hard to even
say what an Amiga is today.
1072
00:57:05,918 --> 00:57:07,739
- We've all got our own ideas
1073
00:57:07,739 --> 00:57:09,699
and we're all going different directions
1074
00:57:09,699 --> 00:57:11,458
and it's very difficult.
1075
00:57:11,458 --> 00:57:13,988
Someone said it's like
corralling a group of cats,
1076
00:57:13,988 --> 00:57:15,415
I don't know.
1077
00:57:15,415 --> 00:57:17,390
- Is there like a spirit in the OS
1078
00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:18,650
that we could keep following?
1079
00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:22,223
Or is it supporting
old games and old apps?
1080
00:57:22,223 --> 00:57:23,056
Is that it?
1081
00:57:23,056 --> 00:57:23,889
I don't know.
1082
00:57:23,889 --> 00:57:26,535
- They still develop software for it.
1083
00:57:26,535 --> 00:57:28,683
They still develop hardware for it.
1084
00:57:28,683 --> 00:57:31,081
So it's not fully dead either.
1085
00:57:31,081 --> 00:57:32,167
It's still alive.
1086
00:57:32,167 --> 00:57:33,584
It's still going.
1087
00:57:34,629 --> 00:57:36,198
- Is it supporting
the kind of people
1088
00:57:36,198 --> 00:57:37,801
that still like the Amiga?
1089
00:57:37,801 --> 00:57:38,634
Maybe.
1090
00:57:39,614 --> 00:57:43,574
- And to me it's just about love.
1091
00:57:43,574 --> 00:57:44,727
- It's the camaraderie.
1092
00:57:44,727 --> 00:57:47,014
I like talking to the people.
1093
00:57:47,014 --> 00:57:47,847
What is it?
1094
00:57:47,847 --> 00:57:50,987
Networking with the people face-to-face.
1095
00:57:50,987 --> 00:57:52,477
Last year, within the last few months,
1096
00:57:52,477 --> 00:57:55,643
three or four new user
groups have popped up
1097
00:57:55,643 --> 00:57:58,151
in the Pacific Northwest area.
1098
00:57:58,151 --> 00:58:00,277
- It's about the
community, the people you meet,
1099
00:58:00,277 --> 00:58:02,162
the friendships that you create
1100
00:58:02,162 --> 00:58:05,162
with Amiga users all over the world.
1101
00:58:12,848 --> 00:58:15,842
- Still to this day,
two, three times a month,
1102
00:58:15,842 --> 00:58:19,124
I'll get a piece of email,
a letter from someone,
1103
00:58:19,124 --> 00:58:21,393
thanking me for the Amiga computer
1104
00:58:21,393 --> 00:58:24,318
and he or she became a graphic artist
1105
00:58:24,318 --> 00:58:26,769
or got into video production
1106
00:58:26,769 --> 00:58:29,972
or got into game programming
because of the Amiga
1107
00:58:29,972 --> 00:58:32,944
and that they were inspired
by the capabilities
1108
00:58:32,944 --> 00:58:36,807
and they were caught up in the passion.
1109
00:58:36,807 --> 00:58:39,250
- There's people still using Amigas now
1110
00:58:39,250 --> 00:58:42,275
and there's people even
buying new hardware
1111
00:58:42,275 --> 00:58:46,113
that runs new Amiga operating system.
1112
00:58:46,113 --> 00:58:48,424
- Like everything else, you
have a whole bunch of software
1113
00:58:48,424 --> 00:58:52,345
that perhaps wasn't worth
the paper it was packaged in
1114
00:58:52,345 --> 00:58:55,720
but you have so many others
that you play them now,
1115
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:56,987
you'll put them up on the screen
1116
00:58:56,987 --> 00:58:59,577
and you'll be like, "Wow."
1117
00:58:59,577 --> 00:59:01,979
And somebody will say,
1118
00:59:01,979 --> 00:59:05,981
"Wow, you really captured
that classic look."
1119
00:59:05,981 --> 00:59:10,291
And you go, "No, that
is the classic look."
1120
00:59:10,291 --> 00:59:13,503
- But man those were special days.
1121
00:59:13,503 --> 00:59:15,920
Those were such magical days.
1122
00:59:18,875 --> 00:59:23,042
And that... I hope I get to enjoy
again and again and again.
1123
00:59:26,909 --> 00:59:28,334
- We know it can be done.
1124
00:59:28,334 --> 00:59:30,237
We know that we can create a computer
1125
00:59:30,237 --> 00:59:32,326
that blows people away.
1126
00:59:32,326 --> 00:59:34,492
So let's do it again.
1127
00:59:34,492 --> 00:59:35,075
(upbeat music)
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