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Two young boys disappeared

off the streets of Chelmsley Wood

on Boxing Day night, 1996.

Never to be seen again.

Patrick and David, just 11 and 13.

And 24 years later,

we still don't know what
happened to those boys.

Patrick Warren and David Spencer

disappeared in Birmingham in
1996, on Boxing Day evening.

They were only 11 and 13,

and they became known
as the Milk Carton kids.

Yeah, because these were

the first missing
children ever to be placed

on milk cartons in this country.

And I know that this is a case

that has always bothered you, hasn't it?

Well, I started
to teach in Birmingham

the following year.

But more importantly, their
bodies have never been found,

and nobody's ever been caught.

Despite there being two

major police investigations
in 1996 and 2006.

So, I want to know

why the police investigation
wasn't successful,

and therefore, I think we've
got to re-examine this case

to see what happened to the boys.

And the best place to start

is by talking to their family,

who I know still live in the local area.

And we can look back at newspaper reports,

and see if they throw up any new witnesses

or new information.

And we know that the last place

that the boys were seen
alive was at a petrol station

in Chelmsley Wood, near
to where they lived.

Which is now a KFC.

Feisty duo.

Shoplifting, they'd been in scrapes.

Teenage runaways.

What? "Detective inspector Derek Biggs

of West Midlands Police
said there was no reason

to believe any harm had come to the pair."

Inspector David Chapman of
West Midlands police said,

"They're both streetwise lads."

They're 11 and 13.

Hi, Emilia.

So basically, I've read all
these articles from the time.

I don't know.

I feel confused about the
way the case was reported on,

and I wonder what was going on

with the police investigation.

That's interesting.

The way the boys
are described in the press,

like the phrases they
use, the words they use,

it's like they were asking for it.

You know, despite their characters,

whatever their characters were,

they're still vulnerable children.

Could they have fended for
themselves at that age?

I don't think so.

No, they couldn't.

And it's
heartbreaking where their mums

are making the appeals for the boys.

"Two tearful Midland Mums today pleaded

with their missing sons,
"Please come home.""

Brings tears.

What age was he here?

11.

11.

He's not a pushover.

No, definitely not. You can
see he's not a wimp, look.

He can look after himself.

What sort of
personality did he have?

Just a little mischievous kid, like.

A lovable rogue, isn't it?

What impact has losing your
older brother had on you?

It's ruined my life.

In what way?

In my head ...

I can't even explain. In here.

I'll never get over it. Never.

I want closure of this.
I want my son home,

so I can put him to rest.

I want something I can properly grieve.

Lee, can you just
explain about Patrick and David,

on the night of Boxing Day?

Paddy said he was stopping here.

David said he was stopping there.

They both at some point
gone to the petrol station.

Two boys, and a bike.

When were the boys
first reported as missing?

Andy, Paddy's brother,

came here saying, "Is Paddy here?"

I Said, "No, David, said
he was staying at yours."

He says, "Well, he hasn't turned up."

Andy then reported to the police

that David and Paddy didn't
turn up to his house.

10, half 10, something like that, right?

The police didn't come
here till half four.

In the morning?

In the morning.

They thought the kids were here.

I said, "They're not here."

"Can we check the bedroom?"
I said, "Course you can."

Then they left, they says, "Okay."

Never heard nothing then, for three days.

Three days.

Three days
it took them to come out.

Did they think
this was about two boys

that were running away? Did they think

they were missing people?

Did they think there was a
vulnerability going on here?

Because he had a bit of a criminal record,

and he was knew by the police,

it was like, "He'll come
home when he's hungry."

Mhmm.

That was said to me,
when I was a little boy,

by a police officer.

No way would he have left me,

and he wouldn't have seen me
go through all this torture

without contacting me,
if he'd just run away.

He would have come back.

I reckon the night he went
missing was the night he died.

When did the
detectives, the CID branch,

get involved?

Three months, I think it
was, after they went missing.

Three months?

Three months.

They were still, for
the first three months,

treating this as a missing persons case?

Why isn't it a murder case?

Why isn't it a double murder case,

for two kids from Chelmsley
Wood? Why isn't it that?

You never thought it was taken seriously?

No.

What would the
police have had to have done

to demonstrate they were
taking it seriously?

Their job properly.

Just that, isn't it? You
know what they're paid to do.

Come in of a morning,
there's reports of a boy.

"Right, someone's reported a boy,"

so then you put him as a missing boy,

then you inform ...

All your police are coming on the day,

and then they all look for the boy.

Just genuinely their job.

Who is he? Who is he? Who
is the guy in that station

that decided that it was
not important for my brother

to be dealt with properly?

Yeah.

It's an urgent-

It's disgusting.

Police done nothing right at the start.

They are still doing nothing right now.

I think the police are not
interested in this case.

Ask me why, I don't know.
I don't know the reason,

but there is a reason.

There's a reason they're
not interested in it.

Why?

You know Birmingham so well.

Tell me about Chelmsley Wood.

Chelmsley Wood's a council estate.

Chelmsley Wood's people who
are holding down probably two,

perhaps three jobs to get
themselves through the month.

And I worry, did David and Patrick not get

the policing they deserved,

because they lived in Chelmsley Wood?

Did that have an impact on
the policing investigation?

You think it did?

People imagine that all murders

are treated the same,

but there's no way that David and Patrick

were ideal victims.

What is an ideal victim?

Frankly, a
middle-class white girl,

with blonde hair and blue eyes.

That case will get lots
of media attention.

And if it gets lots-

Just from the way that they look?

Just from their class, their
gender, their ethnicity,

they will get more
attention from the media,

which in turn puts more
pressure on the police

to solve that case, as opposed
to the cases of other kids

that might go missing.

I think that's shocking.

But that's the reality.

That's the reality of murder,

that I see all the time in my work,

class.

And Chelmsley Wood is
a working class area.

Hello, this is
professor David Wilson.

I can't take your call, but
please leave me a message.

David, I've been
asking around in Chelmsley Wood,

and I've found a witness
who still lives in the area.

Ellen Morgan. She was the
petrol station attendant

on the night the boys went missing.

The police have spoken to her twice.

She might've been the
last person to see them.

I'll let you know what I find out.

Do you remember Patrick and David well?

Were they familiar faces to you?

They was, yes.

Why did they
come to the petrol station

that night?

Because they was hungry.

And did you chat
with them that night?

I talked to them a bit, and I said,

"Well I'll buy you a pocket of biscuits."

They went and sat over there on the steps.

That used to be steps coming down.

Could you see them from
the petrol station?

Yeah. Sitting there, eating the biscuits.

Did you notice
what happened after that?

Where they went?

No, they just disappeared.

Tell me about the petrol station

where you worked.

Well, the pumps was here.

Yeah.

And then further up here, it's the shop.

You just have to serve with
the hatch over night time.

It's about here.

And that's how you could
see where the boys were.

And then how did you communicate
with people who were-

It was a microphone.

Right.

And you could
hear anything what was ...

Anybody walking around.

So it was a quiet night,

and a microphone would
have picked up any noise.

So anything, any sounds of screams-

Yes.

Or a struggle would have been
picked up by the microphone,

and you would have heard it that night?

Yes, yes.

Yes, I would have.

This is about where the bin area was,

where Patrick left his bike.

In this area.

So Paddy's bike was left here?

Yes.

Everybody said he really wanted that bike.

His dad bought it for him,
I think, the day before.

And you didn't
see him with it over there?

No.

And what about CCTV at that time?

Did the petrol station have CCTV?

They had a video recorder.

What it recorded, I don't know.

Do you know if anyone ever
came to check the CCTV?

To my knowledge, they didn't.

But it must've picked up something.

Well, you would think so.

You would think so, but
I don't know, you know?

Nobody ever told me anything about that.

Thanks, Roisin.

Thank you.

Thanks so much. Fab.

This red Apollo bike was
given to Paddy for Christmas.

So it was like a treasured present.

The bike's really important then,

because if they had gone missing,

if they were running away,

presumably they would have taken the bike.

And also wouldn't the fact
that Paddy had left his bike

and not come back to pick it up,

wouldn't that raise a massive alarm

that something had happened to the boys?

Crucially, there was a
microphone on the forecourt side

of the petrol station

that would have picked
up if there had been

any noises of screams of the boys

or anything that suggested a struggle.

David was a talented boxer.

This is a boy that would
have shouted and screamed

and resisted being abducted into a car.

And given what you've discovered,

this tells us a wee bit about
what might have happened

on that date.

I read an
article about it actually,

and I think I've tracked down someone

who might be able to tell us some more.

Leda Reynolds.

Tell me about Leda Reynolds.

She's a local journalist?

Yes, who's written
extensively about the case,

and she suggests that
the boys were abducted

and she even names a suspect.

Who's that?

He's a guy called Brian Field

who was living in the area at the time,

and Leda has even met him,

because they used to
drink in the same pub.

Well, maybe we should go to that pub.

Unfortunately, the pub is long gone,

but I have arranged to meet her nearby.

So, clearly, this is the case,

that you have cared about

and you care about David and Patrick

and what happened to them,

because you've been involved
with it for so long.

The case had always bothered me.

And I'm really glad you're
both investigating it,

because something needs to be done.

Leda, tell me a little more
about this man, Brian Field.

Brian Field was a gardener,

and he'd lived in Solihull.

When I went to the pub, he
was chatting, he was laughing.

We were taking part in a quiz.

Have a look at this.

A video of him.

It's from a
documentary he appeared in.

He's doing a strip tease.

In the middle of the pub.

Oh my God.

So when I find out later on

that he'd actually been convicted in 2001

for the rape and murder of a
school boy called Roy Tutill,

I was really shocked.

In 1968, Roy Tutill, he was
on his way home from school.

He went to Kingston
Grammar School in Surrey.

Unfortunately for Roy
that day, Brian Field,

who worked and lived in
the area was driving past,

offered him a lift, and
raped and strangled him,

before dumping his body.

And how did
Brian Field get caught

for the murder of Roy Tutill?

He was stopped for drink driving

and they took a swab from his cheek.

Surrey Police run it
through the DNA database,

and it flagged up with a semen stain

left on the clothing of Roy Tutill.

Leda, what happened

after Brian Field's conviction?

Surrey Police had
contacted different forces

around the country,

to say, "You need to be
looking at this man."

25 other child disappearances
should be investigated.

And as part of those,
one of them should be

the milk carton kids.

Patrick Warren and David Spencer.

Then what happened?

Well, I moved away from Birmingham.

I went to work somewhere else.

When I got back in 2006,

I wanted to find out what
happened to the boys.

So I rang West Midlands Police,

and they told me that the
still a missing persons-

Missing persons?

Missing persons inquiry.

So for five years,

they hadn't been looking at Brian Field

as a possible suspect
for the kidnap and murder

of these children.

So I built up this dossier,
took it to the police.

There was me and some
people from the paper

that was working at the Birmingham Mail.

I said, "You need to look at Brian Field."

Two weeks went by,

and I was told that there'd
be a press conference.

And they announced there that,

"We believe they have been murdered.

Brian Field is one of a number of avenues

we're investigating,
about the missing boys."

And what happened?

He's at prison.

They picked him up, they
brought him to a police station

in Birmingham and he was interviewed twice

under caution about the missing boys.

And he denied all knowledge of the boys.

West Midlands Police
said they were searching

a number of sites in
the hunt for the boys.

And so presumably,

they did not find ...

They found nothing.

Yeah.

Thank you.

We have to look
more closely at Brian Field

in the story of David and Paddy,

and here are two pictures of him

at the milk marketing board,

and then when he's arrested
for the drunk driving charges.

I want to know more about
Field's offending background.

What do you have?

Brian Field has been convicted six times

of sexual offences against teenage boys.

Six times.

Mhmm.

His first conviction was

for gross indecency at Wrexham, in 1969.

In 1972, he was convicted
for a second time

for indecent assault at Aberdeenshire.

And then his third conviction
was for gross indecency

at Oswestry.

So back in the Midlands.

The fourth conviction in 1983

was for two counts of
buggery at Shrewsbury,

and his fifth conviction in 1986

was a double kidnapping at Oswestry.

Oh, now that's significant.

It seems to me, a double kidnapping,

I want to know more about
that offence, I think.

So, they were two teenagers, 13 and 16,

and they got into Field's car.

They'd hitched a lift,

and when he didn't go towards their home

and took a different direction,

they tried to get out of the car

and he then threatened them physically.

But they managed to jump out

of the moving car.

I don't know of any other offender

who's ever been convicted of attempting

to abduct two teenagers at the same time.

I don't know of any other offender.

That would be really unusual for me.

And the sixth conviction

was for the murder and sexual
assault of Roy Tutill in 1968.

So we know he's been offending

as far back as 1968,

but there's also something
significant there.

There are no charges
between 1986 and 1999,

when he's going to get
caught drunk driving.

This kind of offender, in my experience,

doesn't stop offending.

So what other crimes might
he have been committing

during that period?

We know that he was questioned

about the disappearance
of David and Patrick

who vanished in 1996.

Field was living near
the area at the time,

and in 2006, he was questioned

about the boys' disappearance,

but he's never been charged,

presumably through lack of evidence.

And the case is still active.

Three other people were arrested

in connection to the
disappearance of David and Paddy,

but no charges were ever made.

When we think about that,

we've got somebody who's
already committed a murder

and a number of child sexual offences.

I think we've got to conclude Brian Field

is the prime suspect.

Let's see if we can find out
more about Field in this area

post-1986.

I've been doing some research

into other offences Field might have been

connected to in the Birmingham area.

There is another case that
has been linked to Brian Field

of another boy who was
found hanged in 1984.

This boy-

Another boy?

Another boy. This boy's
name was Mark Billington.

I did some research,

and his parents believe that Brian Field

was responsible for their son's death.

There were other suspects
arrested in connection

with Mark Billington's murder,

but nobody has been charged
and it remains unsolved.

So Brian Field has not been ruled out.

So, this is a
completely different murder

that he's suspected of,

not involving Paddy and David Spencer?

Yes.

I've managed to
track down Mark Billington's

parents and sister. They
still live in the area.

This is our son Mark.

He was 13 when this picture was taken.

He was a kind, gentle boy.

When the police said that
Mark had killed himself,

nobody believed it.

So there were two inquests-

Yes.

And the first inquest into Mark's death

recorded an open verdict.

And then there was a second
inquest about Mark's death,

made it into a murder inquiry.

How many years later?

We're talking about '85 to 2000 and ...

It was 2002.

Two, yes.

Tell me what happened in between.

Investigation was probably going on

in the background,

instigated by Bob Pool.

Now, who was Bob Pool?

Bob Pool was a Sergeant
in the police force.

And he literally took up the chalice,

and he did not believe that Mark

could have committed suicide.

Right from the first investigation.

Bob Pool paid for a knot expert

to come over from Switzerland,

and he categorically said there was no way

any child could do those knots.

They were too sophisticated.

At the end of the day, it was murder,

which we've been saying
right from day one.

So Bob Pool felt that

you hadn't been fairly
treated by the police,

and that's why he continued to be involved

with trying to prove that someone else

was involved, and that it should have been

a murder inquiry.

I think he rattled a few cages.

Yes.

And I think that's what
started the police going again.

That and Brian Field's conviction in 2001.

Yes.

When he was
investigated for 25 other cases

that he might have been involved.

When did you first hear about Brian Field?

Again, from Bob Pool, saying that,

"This guy is a well known paedophile."

He's done so many indecent criminal acts.

Is there any way that he
could have got to know Mark?

Yes.

He lived about a mile and
a half from where we were.

So he's got easy access
to the playing fields

at the back of where we lived.

He was very trusting, Mark was.

Yeah.

If somebody told him a
story, he'd believe them.

In 2002, as the case was reopened

and re-looked into, they were
looking for the artefacts,

but they were lost.

So they can't get any DNA evidence?

With the Roy Tutill case,

which was the case that convicted

and put Brian Field away-

Absolutely.

Through the DNA
screening, 30 years later,

that's taken away from us as a family.

And there's been no explanation.

It's documented
that they searched for them,

but because Mark's case
was never officially

recorded as a crime-

Right.

They didn't have to
then keep the artefacts.

I just dread the thought

of other people going through it.

We're looking
into the disappearance

of David Spencer and Patrick Warren.

When you heard about that case,

did you associate it in any way

with what had happened with Mark?

Yes, obviously. You start thinking

about the possibilities.

Yeah.

Once that guy's name comes up.

Brian Field. You think, "Is
he responsible for that?

For that? For that?"

He's been responsible for so many things.

I just wish I could pin him down to Mark.

Someone took my child's life. Our child.

How'd you cope with that?

When you know someone ...

Just been to
meet the Billingtons,

and there is a connection to Brian Field.

Field was possibly living one mile away

from the Billingtons at the time.

So how does
this relate to our case?

Roy Billington, Mark's dad-

Yeah.

Has collected all the
correspondence and information

he got from Bob Pool.

Who's Bob Pool?

Bob Pool was a junior officer on the case,

and he helped the family because he felt

that there had been gross injustice

done to them.

Can we get access to Bob Pool?

No, Bob Pool has died.

But this is one of the
emails from Bob Pool.

Read this bit here.

"I am still working on seeing two

rather reluctant witnesses I've located

at Chelmsley Wood, in respect
for the missing boys."

So our two boys.

Oh my gosh. "One of whom
saw Field with both lads

a few days before they disappeared."

That's the
first time that we have

any connection between
Field and the two boys,

possibly knowing them
before they were taken.

And it also explains something.

We've always been concerned about the fact

that there was no noise on that night.

Well, if the boys knew Field

prior to Boxing Day night
when they disappear,

that's why nobody hears
anybody scream or shout,

or try to fight as they're being abducted.

And also, we thought that his MO

was as an opportunist.

This suggests that there
was grooming involved.

For me, the case is closing in

around Brian Field as a suspect,

but there's still missing pieces,

like how he operates when
he commits his crimes.

So I'm going to interview Dr. Graham Hill,

who's an expert on predatory paedophiles.

Graham has interviewed Brian
on a number of occasions,

and crucially got him to admit
to the murder of Roy Tutill.

If I did get too involved,

I would have to tell them about my past.

And that's why I sort of
work on my own and ...

And keep my distance.

He comes across as quite a kindly

grandfather figure.

Don't get sucked into seeing a little,

gray-haired old man.

In 1968, he was in his
30s, fit, ex-Marine,

rugby playing, worked on the land.

He would have been an
enormous threat to Roy Tutill.

If I had a drink, I'd get that urge,

that I want to have sex.

And that's when I ...

My trouble started.

I just lost my head or something.

So he's revealing
alcohol's one of his triggers,

in relation to offending.

Why is he telling you that?

He sees alcohol as a precursor
to a lot of his offences.

And in fact, when you look
at a lot of his offences,

he's committed them
while he's been drinking.

So we all know that
alcohol is a disinhibitor,

because Brian is, in essence,
a preferential offender.

So, explain preferential offending.

Okay, so preferential offending

is where the offender acts compulsively

to fulfil a sexual need.

Brian is, in essence,

sexually interested in prepubescent boys.

In fact, he's what's known as a hebephile.

Given the opportunity,
right circumstances,

right place, right time, he would offend

against that type of victim.

I was driving along the road,

and I saw this lad get off the bus.

And he thumbed for it.

I'm sure he thumbed for a lift.

He stood there.

I stopped and he got in.

You're in the car?

Yeah.

What do you try to do?

I tried to bugger him.

Right over the front seat.

Was he crying? What was he doing?

No, no, he wasn't crying.

I told him to get dressed again.

And then I was panicking like anything.

How did you strangle him?

I just

put the tie around his
neck and just tightened it.

He just sort of convulsed a bit,

sort of gasping for air
and I just carried on,

and suddenly, he went lifeless.

So, in the end, when
you've got him in this room,

and he's admitting to the murder of Roy,

how does he at that stage ...

Does he feel relief, or does
he think, "I've been caught"?

My personal view is that,

at this stage of the interview,

Brian is really quite happy
to offload all of this guilt

and the frustration and the burden

that he's been carrying for a long time.

Don't get me wrong.

Brian is a predatory sex offender.

I've done several other
interviews with Brian Field

since this time,

most recently in the last couple of years,

I've I've interviewed him.

So-

May I ask, why
were you interviewing him

in the last couple of years?

I interviewed him
for West Midlands Police

about other offences.

I'm presuming you asked him
about the milk carton kids.

There was some tantalising little

bits of information that he gave up.

He never admitted that
he abducted those boys,

but I think we got to the stage that ...

Certainly, the West Midlands Police

got to the stage where they could put him,

the night in question, in the vicinity

of where the two boys went missing,

and that he'd been drinking that night,

and he was in a white van.

I don't believe in coincidences.

You've got a man who's
got a previous conviction

for abducting children,
abducted two children together.

He's in the vicinity of
where two boys go missing.

Ultimately, for me, that
makes him a very good suspect

for the boys.

The abduction of
the two boys in Birmingham

fits his MO perfectly.

In my view, I've never seen a suspect

that is better for the
abduction of those two boys

than Brian Field.

I was so surprised
by what Graham Hill

has told me.

What?

In the last two years,

he's been asked by the
West Midlands Police

to interview Brian Field in relation

to David and Patrick going missing.

Does that mean that they've
found something new, then?

Or it might just simply be

that Field's now in his 80s,

and they're worried
that he won't be with us

for very much longer.

But more importantly, Graham told me

that Field had revealed to him
some tantalising information

that he wasn't prepared to go into,

because it's an active investigation.

Right.

But Graham is convinced

that this is the prime suspect

for the disappearance
of David and Patrick.

But then, why haven't
the West Midlands Police

charged Field with the
disappearance of Patrick and David?

I have no idea,
except Field is in prison.

He's never going to be released.

So he's low risk.

Just because he's low risk,
and therefore low priority,

where does that leave
David and Patrick's family?

I totally get that,

but we can try and do some geo-profiling

to find out what the
families have said they want,

which is where are the boys' bodies.

Wait, geo-profiling, it's-

So, geo-profiling
is a scientific way

of trying to predict where
an offender might live,

but we can turn that
on its head to predict

where an offender might've
disposed of bodies.

But the police
have already done searches

for the boys' bodies, and
they've never found anything.

But they've never
commissioned any geo-profiling.

And I happen to know the
country's leading profiler.

What we're really interested in here

is the journey from abduction

to where David and Patrick ended up.

What we're trying to do
is establish a search area

of where we might find the boys' bodies.

Offenders, like us,
are creatures of habit.

Field is no different.

We find a range of about
10 kilometres coming up

time and time again, between his home

and where he has committed his crimes.

So what we need to do

is take that 10 kilometres and use it

as the radius of a circle
centred on the location

where we know David and
Patrick were last seen,

which is the Shell
garage in Chelmsley Wood.

What we're trying to do is
establish what happened next,

after the boys got in that car.

We know that offenders tend to be drawn

to committing their crimes in
areas they're familiar with.

So, Field in a car with the two boys,

he's going to want to get back
into a familiar environment.

So, my hypothesis is that
Field would have gone

towards the South, into this area.

All of these locations relate to something

about his lifestyle.

Places where Field lived, where he drunk.

He did odd gardening jobs.

And what I'd be looking for here

is locations that were suitable,

that offered the accessibility
and the familiarity

and the privacy to afford Field the time

to successfully commit this crime,

and then dispose of the boys' bodies.

One area strikes me as
particularly interesting;

the area of JB's golf club,

which is now a football ground, I believe.

So if we can zoom in on JB's, the area,

JB's was a location in the
'90s, around the right time,

where Field worked, had a gardening job.

He lived in a caravan on the site.

And what we can see is that

we've got a lot of green open space

and with the right local knowledge,

there are probably multiple
suitable locations here.

And Sam,

where do you think we'll
find David and Patrick?

So we know that we can
never put an X on a map

and say, "That's where you
need to start digging,"

for example.

But what this has done
is taken a search area

of a radius of 10
kilometres down to actually

a reasonably small area.

And what I suggest that you both do now

is go in and immerse
yourself in this environment

and experience this as he would have done,

through his eyes, back in those days.

Let's put a narrative together,

with all the information that we've got

since we've been here.

Graham Hill told
us the police have evidence

that places Brian Field
close to where the boys

were last seen on that night,

and that he was in a white van.

We've got some answer, in terms
of why there's no struggle

on that particular night.

There's a witness that
said Field knew the boys,

the boys knew Field.

Now that's quite crucial, isn't it?

Because when he rocks up in
his car on Boxing Day night,

that he's somebody that's
familiar to them, isn't he?

So they would have got into
his van, possibly willingly,

and then he could take
them where he wanted.

And then the key question

was always, thereafter and remains,

well, what happened?

Where does he go after he
gets the boys into his van?

How's he going to cope with
the two boys in the car though?

That's what we've now
got to concentrate on.

How does he manage to subdue both boys,

when they realise something isn't right?

Previously, he's tried to do
things to boys in his car.

The Oswestry boys, they
were hitching a lift,

and then he threatens them
once they're in the car.

I think they were about 12, 13.

I didn't actually attack
them, because I was driving.

I told them to get undressed.

I told them to get undressed,

because I was going to take them ...

I had a friend's farm up in the hills.

And I was going to ...

I don't know what I was
going to do with them.

Geo-profiling tells
us Field would have travelled

with David and Patrick
from Chelmsley Wood South

towards here, Solihull,
which is where he lived

and felt comfortable.

Well, we're in the search area,

close to JB's, where Sam pinpointed.

Geo-profiling gets you so far,

but until you're in the actual spaces

that those maps reveal,

a whole new picture emerges.

Suddenly it becomes real.

You really get a sense that

this is the kind of place
that would have given Field

the cover and isolation he needed

to do what he was going to
do with Patrick and David.

The long and the short of it is

that we can't today say the body is there.

The bodies are there.

This place, for me, really needs

to be appropriately searched,

and we should give all of our information,

both to the families-

And the police.

And the police.

Tragedy.

It's a tragedy for Patrick
and David's family.

It's a tragedy for the Billingtons,

and all the other families involved.

We know Brian
Field murdered Roy Tutill.

If he's ever brought to justice

for the murders of David and Patrick,

and if he's found guilty of
Mark Billington's murder,

that's multiple victims
over a long period of time.

I feel, as I'm standing here,

we could be uncovering

one of the worst serial
killers of children

this country has ever known.