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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,190 --> 00:00:11,756 AMY: There's a lot of death. 2 00:00:11,758 --> 00:00:14,325 The ground is just saturated with it. 3 00:00:14,327 --> 00:00:17,028 The previous owner, he committed suicide. 4 00:00:17,030 --> 00:00:20,365 Ow! There's a lot of physical trauma going on. 5 00:00:20,367 --> 00:00:22,834 - You think he was killed? - Yeah. 6 00:00:22,836 --> 00:00:24,636 Somebody keeps talking about murder, murder, 7 00:00:24,638 --> 00:00:25,880 murder, murder, murder, murder, murder, 8 00:00:25,906 --> 00:00:26,905 murder, murder, murder, murder. 9 00:00:26,907 --> 00:00:28,973 There's something. There's something here. 10 00:00:28,975 --> 00:00:33,011 It's trying to push me away with a force. 11 00:00:33,013 --> 00:00:37,315 It very much hates someone in this house. 12 00:00:37,317 --> 00:00:39,484 I just hear death. 13 00:00:39,486 --> 00:00:41,753 My name is Amy Allan. 14 00:00:41,755 --> 00:00:43,388 Ah, God. 15 00:00:43,390 --> 00:00:45,390 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 16 00:00:45,392 --> 00:00:46,491 I see dead people. 17 00:00:46,493 --> 00:00:47,759 Her face was all demonic. 18 00:00:47,761 --> 00:00:49,494 I speak to dead people. 19 00:00:49,496 --> 00:00:52,297 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 20 00:00:52,299 --> 00:00:53,698 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:55,233 - What is he trying to do? - Kill them. 22 00:00:55,235 --> 00:00:58,369 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:58,371 --> 00:01:00,371 Something happened. Bam, bam, bam! 24 00:01:00,373 --> 00:01:01,521 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:01,621 --> 00:01:03,187 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 26 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:04,922 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 27 00:01:04,924 --> 00:01:06,423 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 28 00:01:06,425 --> 00:01:09,627 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:09,629 --> 00:01:10,794 They're everywhere. 30 00:01:10,796 --> 00:01:12,196 It's my job to reveal them. 31 00:01:12,198 --> 00:01:14,264 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 32 00:01:14,266 --> 00:01:17,067 But Steve and I never speak... 33 00:01:17,069 --> 00:01:19,103 We never communicate during an investigation. 34 00:01:19,105 --> 00:01:20,337 ...until the very end... 35 00:01:20,339 --> 00:01:22,006 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 36 00:01:22,008 --> 00:01:23,874 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 37 00:01:23,876 --> 00:01:25,976 That's it. 38 00:01:25,978 --> 00:01:27,244 ...or time to get out. 39 00:01:27,246 --> 00:01:31,482 Somebody's gonna die over there soon, yeah. 40 00:01:33,073 --> 00:01:37,197 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 41 00:01:45,831 --> 00:01:48,532 I'm in the small town of Estill Springs, Tennessee. 42 00:01:48,534 --> 00:01:51,835 It's about 85 miles southeast of Nashville. 43 00:01:51,837 --> 00:01:54,304 I got a call from a young mother named Emily. 44 00:01:54,306 --> 00:01:55,739 She says whatever's in the house 45 00:01:55,741 --> 00:01:58,709 hates kids and was going after her 3-year old son. 46 00:01:58,711 --> 00:02:00,144 She was hysterical on the phone, 47 00:02:00,146 --> 00:02:02,312 and I'm really hoping we can help her out. 48 00:02:07,053 --> 00:02:08,252 MATT: Before Amy arrives, 49 00:02:08,254 --> 00:02:10,087 I sweep the house from top to bottom, 50 00:02:10,089 --> 00:02:12,756 looking for any leading information. 51 00:02:12,758 --> 00:02:16,060 Photographs, family heirlooms, 52 00:02:16,062 --> 00:02:18,796 even a baby's crib can influence her findings. 53 00:02:18,798 --> 00:02:21,865 So it's important that I cover or remove them all. 54 00:02:21,867 --> 00:02:23,200 When I'm done, the location 55 00:02:23,202 --> 00:02:24,902 will be ready for tonight's walk. 56 00:02:34,146 --> 00:02:42,052 There's some nutty woman running towards me screaming. 57 00:02:42,054 --> 00:02:43,987 She's got issues. 58 00:02:43,989 --> 00:02:45,956 She is very physical. 59 00:02:45,958 --> 00:02:48,492 She, like, can touch people. 60 00:02:48,494 --> 00:02:51,862 Like, she's got her arm on me now. 61 00:02:51,864 --> 00:02:54,164 Ow! Okay. 62 00:02:54,166 --> 00:02:55,966 What happened? 63 00:02:55,968 --> 00:03:00,370 She was doing creepy stuff that actually kind of made me scared. 64 00:03:00,372 --> 00:03:03,907 She made it like death. 65 00:03:10,349 --> 00:03:12,816 STEVE: When we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty upset. 66 00:03:12,818 --> 00:03:16,019 Most of it was because of your son, Eli. 67 00:03:16,021 --> 00:03:17,755 Yeah. We got him about a year ago. 68 00:03:17,757 --> 00:03:20,357 He was in an orphanage from China. 69 00:03:20,359 --> 00:03:22,126 He's waking up screaming in the night. 70 00:03:22,128 --> 00:03:23,994 I go in there, he is trembling. 71 00:03:23,996 --> 00:03:25,562 It's heartbreaking. 72 00:03:25,564 --> 00:03:27,765 He's obviously terrified. 73 00:03:27,767 --> 00:03:30,200 When you did adopt him, did they give you any indication 74 00:03:30,202 --> 00:03:32,703 that he was having any issues like you're talking about? 75 00:03:32,705 --> 00:03:35,072 He slept awesome. He slept all night. 76 00:03:35,074 --> 00:03:36,607 He took a 2-hour nap during the day. 77 00:03:36,609 --> 00:03:38,342 He had no issues. 78 00:03:38,344 --> 00:03:40,611 It's hard because we brought him into this. 79 00:03:40,613 --> 00:03:42,012 Let me get some basic stuff from you. 80 00:03:42,014 --> 00:03:43,647 How long are you guys here? 81 00:03:43,649 --> 00:03:46,083 - We've been here about 4 years. - Who's living in the house? 82 00:03:46,085 --> 00:03:49,052 Um, it is me, my husband, Christopher, 83 00:03:49,054 --> 00:03:51,755 and my son, Eli. 84 00:03:51,757 --> 00:03:53,824 And recently, my youngest sister, Abby, 85 00:03:53,826 --> 00:03:55,793 and her 4 year-old son have moved in. 86 00:03:55,795 --> 00:03:58,428 If you can, just give me an abbreviated version 87 00:03:58,430 --> 00:03:59,963 of what you guys are going through here. 88 00:03:59,965 --> 00:04:03,667 Well, we've heard voices, a feeling of being watched. 89 00:04:03,669 --> 00:04:05,602 We've seen shadow people. 90 00:04:05,604 --> 00:04:08,205 And me and my husband both have pretty extreme mood swings. 91 00:04:08,207 --> 00:04:09,807 And when you say the mood swings, 92 00:04:09,809 --> 00:04:11,141 what are we talking about? 93 00:04:11,143 --> 00:04:12,843 He's very irritable. 94 00:04:12,845 --> 00:04:16,046 He seems anxious and nervous about things all the time. 95 00:04:16,048 --> 00:04:18,081 I mean, that can't be good for the marriage? 96 00:04:18,083 --> 00:04:21,718 It's really hard. 97 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,854 I should be happy to be in this home with him, 98 00:04:23,856 --> 00:04:25,355 with our new baby. 99 00:04:25,357 --> 00:04:27,558 So if we can't fix the problem with the paranormal here, 100 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,992 what do you think would happen? 101 00:04:28,994 --> 00:04:31,094 Worse things would happen to Eli. 102 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:34,531 I fear that it will get to the point where he gets hurt. 103 00:04:34,533 --> 00:04:37,167 I feel like it targets children. 104 00:04:40,206 --> 00:04:46,410 So this lady, she's talking about kids, little children. 105 00:04:46,412 --> 00:04:50,247 She doesn't want me to go in this house. 106 00:04:50,249 --> 00:04:54,852 She very much hates someone in this house. 107 00:04:54,854 --> 00:04:56,520 It feels like a male. 108 00:04:58,324 --> 00:05:01,091 Ow. 109 00:05:01,093 --> 00:05:03,493 Okay, so I got punched in the stomach. 110 00:05:03,495 --> 00:05:04,995 Do you know what by? 111 00:05:04,997 --> 00:05:06,330 Her. 112 00:05:06,332 --> 00:05:08,699 Oh, [bleep]. 113 00:05:08,701 --> 00:05:11,401 Oh, that hurt like a [bleep]. 114 00:05:17,176 --> 00:05:19,309 This room's pretty bad for me. 115 00:05:19,311 --> 00:05:23,247 I wake up seeing shadow people standing by my bed. 116 00:05:23,249 --> 00:05:25,716 I mean, I wake Christopher up, and he keeps a baseball bat 117 00:05:25,718 --> 00:05:27,417 by the bed because I've said, "There's someone in the room. 118 00:05:27,419 --> 00:05:28,785 There's someone here." 119 00:05:28,787 --> 00:05:30,587 What are we talking about as far as how often you see this? 120 00:05:30,589 --> 00:05:31,822 Once a week, once a month. 121 00:05:31,824 --> 00:05:34,524 It's easily a couple times a week, if not more. 122 00:05:34,526 --> 00:05:36,493 All right. So a couple times a week, that's scary. 123 00:05:36,495 --> 00:05:37,794 Yeah, it's a lot. 124 00:05:37,796 --> 00:05:39,263 And since we've gotten Eli, 125 00:05:39,265 --> 00:05:41,298 it seems to be that he's seeing it now, 126 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:43,901 and that's what's waking him up. 127 00:05:43,903 --> 00:05:45,769 All right. So has anything else happened? 128 00:05:45,771 --> 00:05:49,039 Yes, I feel someone sitting on this bed. 129 00:05:49,041 --> 00:05:50,774 How often is this happening? 130 00:05:50,776 --> 00:05:53,076 At least once a week. 131 00:05:53,078 --> 00:05:55,312 Do you think it's trying to get into bed with you? 132 00:05:55,314 --> 00:05:58,649 I think it's sitting there and wants to watch me. 133 00:05:58,651 --> 00:06:00,417 How the hell are you sleeping? 134 00:06:00,419 --> 00:06:03,086 I don't sleep very well. I mean, I'm 32 years old. 135 00:06:03,088 --> 00:06:04,721 I'm sleeping with three night-lights. 136 00:06:04,723 --> 00:06:06,490 Well, listen, you're going through hell here. 137 00:06:08,961 --> 00:06:11,561 What she's doing, I know, is not good. 138 00:06:11,563 --> 00:06:14,598 Yeah, she is [bleep] physical. 139 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,935 She can move things. She can touch people. 140 00:06:17,937 --> 00:06:20,270 I think that she's very capable of, 141 00:06:20,272 --> 00:06:22,973 like, uh, making noise? 142 00:06:22,975 --> 00:06:24,708 She can do a lot of crazy stuff. 143 00:06:29,548 --> 00:06:31,148 What's going on in here? 144 00:06:31,150 --> 00:06:33,116 I saw a shadow figure, 145 00:06:33,118 --> 00:06:35,385 and it was at this end of his bed. 146 00:06:35,387 --> 00:06:38,021 And it was, like, peeking over like this. 147 00:06:38,023 --> 00:06:39,489 Describe what it looked like. 148 00:06:39,491 --> 00:06:40,891 It was tall, dark. 149 00:06:40,893 --> 00:06:42,693 I could see the head and the shoulders. 150 00:06:42,695 --> 00:06:44,962 You couldn't see through it. It was solid. 151 00:06:44,964 --> 00:06:46,763 I thought someone was in his room, 152 00:06:46,765 --> 00:06:48,265 but I was frozen. 153 00:06:48,267 --> 00:06:50,100 It was horrible. I was terrified. 154 00:06:50,102 --> 00:06:52,536 I was terrified for him. 155 00:06:52,538 --> 00:06:54,204 It scares me right now to talk about it, 156 00:06:54,206 --> 00:06:56,239 to be honest. 157 00:06:56,241 --> 00:06:57,674 Yeah, I can see that. 158 00:06:57,676 --> 00:07:00,777 It just was the worst experience I have ever had in this house. 159 00:07:00,779 --> 00:07:04,414 He was in an orphanage with no family. 160 00:07:04,416 --> 00:07:06,149 To think that it's worse here 161 00:07:06,151 --> 00:07:07,684 with a mom and dad that love him... 162 00:07:07,686 --> 00:07:09,586 That's upsetting. Don't feel guilty, though. 163 00:07:09,588 --> 00:07:12,122 Is there anything else? 164 00:07:12,124 --> 00:07:15,359 My niece told me that she saw a monster, 165 00:07:15,361 --> 00:07:17,894 and it had a cape and red eyes. 166 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:19,463 No arms, no legs. 167 00:07:19,465 --> 00:07:20,897 And she said she could see the body, 168 00:07:20,899 --> 00:07:22,733 like, moving up and down. 169 00:07:22,735 --> 00:07:24,434 I guess, like it was breathing? 170 00:07:24,436 --> 00:07:26,036 So is it possible he's seeing that? 171 00:07:26,038 --> 00:07:28,171 I mean, he's waking up screaming. 172 00:07:28,173 --> 00:07:31,742 He's pointed over there, said, "Scare me, scare me." 173 00:07:31,744 --> 00:07:36,847 I feel like they want... 174 00:07:36,849 --> 00:07:38,882 that they want him. 175 00:07:38,884 --> 00:07:42,185 I definitely feel like they're after him. 176 00:07:49,995 --> 00:07:54,031 What I'm hearing is weird noises, 177 00:07:54,033 --> 00:07:56,233 but then it's, like, almost, like, inhuman? 178 00:07:56,235 --> 00:07:57,968 Like growling? 179 00:07:57,970 --> 00:07:59,903 But it's, like, coming from, like, 180 00:07:59,905 --> 00:08:01,772 everywhere. 181 00:08:01,774 --> 00:08:04,141 Trying to push me away, uh, 182 00:08:04,143 --> 00:08:07,411 with a force. 183 00:08:07,413 --> 00:08:10,180 And it doesn't sound human. 184 00:08:17,022 --> 00:08:18,922 MATT: You seeing it? 185 00:08:18,924 --> 00:08:22,526 I'm seeing a version of it. 186 00:08:22,528 --> 00:08:24,061 Can you describe it? 187 00:08:24,063 --> 00:08:26,963 It's, like, got long legs and arms, 188 00:08:26,965 --> 00:08:30,333 but it crawls on all four. 189 00:08:30,335 --> 00:08:31,968 It's got a weird body. 190 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:34,671 And then, like, a weird human-shaped face. 191 00:08:34,673 --> 00:08:37,674 It's like screaming and [bleep]. 192 00:08:37,676 --> 00:08:40,077 It is a force. 193 00:08:40,079 --> 00:08:43,280 It's a legitimate force. 194 00:08:43,282 --> 00:08:45,949 This sucker is really evil. 195 00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:08,811 So, Abby, I understand that you recently moved down here. 196 00:09:08,813 --> 00:09:10,846 Yep, about 3 to 4 months ago. 197 00:09:10,848 --> 00:09:12,381 And you moved down here with your son. 198 00:09:12,383 --> 00:09:14,049 - Yes. - And how old is he? 199 00:09:14,051 --> 00:09:15,617 - He's 4. - Okay. 200 00:09:15,619 --> 00:09:18,554 So, Abby, Emily told me that her and her husband's relationship 201 00:09:18,556 --> 00:09:20,989 has kind of gone downhill since moving here. 202 00:09:20,991 --> 00:09:22,758 Um, have you noticed that? 203 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,193 - Yeah. - You have. 204 00:09:24,195 --> 00:09:26,595 Mm-hmm. They're not happy with each other right now. 205 00:09:26,597 --> 00:09:30,232 I noticed he snaps really quick, 206 00:09:30,234 --> 00:09:32,368 and he's said to me, "I feel really irritated, 207 00:09:32,370 --> 00:09:34,670 and I don't know why." 208 00:09:34,672 --> 00:09:36,138 You've been here a few months. 209 00:09:36,140 --> 00:09:37,940 I know your sister's been having a lot of activity 210 00:09:37,942 --> 00:09:40,109 since she moved in here. What about yourself? 211 00:09:40,111 --> 00:09:42,144 Right. Well, I've had, uh, 212 00:09:42,146 --> 00:09:45,214 just an overall feeling of being watched. 213 00:09:45,216 --> 00:09:47,549 You feel like you're being watched right now? 214 00:09:47,551 --> 00:09:49,551 Yeah. Like, I don't... 215 00:09:49,553 --> 00:09:52,321 Like there's someone else in the corner. 216 00:09:52,323 --> 00:09:55,424 Okay. Anything else? 217 00:09:55,426 --> 00:09:57,393 My son has been having nightmares. 218 00:09:57,395 --> 00:09:58,794 He's never had nightmares like he's had 219 00:09:58,796 --> 00:10:00,062 since we moved down here. 220 00:10:00,064 --> 00:10:01,663 He's described to me 221 00:10:01,665 --> 00:10:04,366 a bunch of vampires wearing capes... 222 00:10:04,368 --> 00:10:06,468 - Okay. - With sharp teeth and red eyes. 223 00:10:06,470 --> 00:10:09,071 So what your son described in a dream 224 00:10:09,073 --> 00:10:13,208 to you is something that Emily's niece said she saw. 225 00:10:13,210 --> 00:10:14,977 Yeah. 226 00:10:14,979 --> 00:10:16,912 I want to feel like I made the right choice 227 00:10:16,914 --> 00:10:19,982 and didn't bring him into somewhere that's not safe. 228 00:10:19,984 --> 00:10:21,350 'Cause I'm... 229 00:10:21,352 --> 00:10:25,154 I moved down here to make a better life for him and I. 230 00:10:25,156 --> 00:10:26,855 Anything else going on? 231 00:10:26,857 --> 00:10:28,791 Um, I get panic attacks. 232 00:10:28,793 --> 00:10:29,892 Okay. 233 00:10:29,894 --> 00:10:32,528 And then, like, I can't breathe. 234 00:10:32,530 --> 00:10:34,630 Like I feel like I have to take a deep breath. 235 00:10:34,632 --> 00:10:38,767 And then my heart will just feel like it's going really fast, 236 00:10:38,769 --> 00:10:40,903 beating out of my chest almost. 237 00:10:40,905 --> 00:10:42,671 You have any other physical problems? 238 00:10:42,673 --> 00:10:46,542 Every once in a while, I get a feeling of nauseousness, 239 00:10:46,544 --> 00:10:48,510 like, really sick to my stomach. 240 00:10:48,512 --> 00:10:52,781 But when I'm outside, I fell better. 241 00:10:52,783 --> 00:10:55,184 There's something... There's something here. 242 00:10:57,922 --> 00:10:59,988 AMY: I can't tell what this strange-looking creature 243 00:10:59,990 --> 00:11:02,991 is, possibly a demon. 244 00:11:02,993 --> 00:11:05,461 If anybody has any, uh, 245 00:11:05,463 --> 00:11:09,598 predispositions to, say, 246 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,801 being depressed or anxious or angry, 247 00:11:12,803 --> 00:11:16,038 it'll amplify that tenfold. 248 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,041 Also, if they have any, uh, 249 00:11:19,043 --> 00:11:22,511 existing illnesses, uh, it'll go in there 250 00:11:22,513 --> 00:11:27,616 and attack that and make it 10 times worse. 251 00:11:27,618 --> 00:11:31,320 It can make someone very ill, 252 00:11:31,322 --> 00:11:33,689 whether mentally or physically. 253 00:11:37,027 --> 00:11:40,729 Hmm. Somebody's sleepwalking, this man. 254 00:11:40,731 --> 00:11:42,397 Male. 255 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:45,400 I think he's being influenced by this thing. 256 00:11:45,402 --> 00:11:47,469 And then someone just yelled, "Murder!" 257 00:11:47,471 --> 00:11:49,271 Somebody keeps talking about murder, murder, 258 00:11:49,273 --> 00:11:50,460 murder, murder, murder, murder, murder, 259 00:11:50,486 --> 00:11:51,465 murder, murder, murder, murder. 260 00:11:57,848 --> 00:11:59,348 So, Chris, I was talking to Emily. 261 00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:01,250 She was talking about the stuff that's going on in the house. 262 00:12:01,252 --> 00:12:04,620 Um, she said your personality has changed 263 00:12:04,622 --> 00:12:06,321 since the activity picked up. 264 00:12:06,323 --> 00:12:07,656 I mean, do you agree with that? 265 00:12:07,658 --> 00:12:10,292 Yeah, she says I'm a little bit more edgy now. 266 00:12:10,294 --> 00:12:14,496 You know, I... I can feel I get angry faster. 267 00:12:14,498 --> 00:12:16,465 - Are you concerned about it? - Yeah. 268 00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:18,500 I mean, I... I want to go back to the way we used to be. 269 00:12:18,502 --> 00:12:20,102 So do you believe Emily when she tells you 270 00:12:20,104 --> 00:12:22,104 about all the experiences she's having? 271 00:12:22,106 --> 00:12:23,372 - I believe her. - Okay. 272 00:12:23,374 --> 00:12:25,173 I wish I could see something just at least once, 273 00:12:25,175 --> 00:12:27,609 just so I can know what her and Eli are going through. 274 00:12:27,611 --> 00:12:29,378 You've had no experiences? 275 00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:30,712 There's a few things, 276 00:12:30,714 --> 00:12:33,382 but I'm not sure if they're paranormal not 277 00:12:33,384 --> 00:12:35,050 Okay, so let's go through 'em. 278 00:12:35,052 --> 00:12:37,886 Okay. I... I hear the floor creaking. 279 00:12:37,888 --> 00:12:40,155 It sounds like somebody walking. 280 00:12:40,157 --> 00:12:41,823 Could it be somebody walking? 281 00:12:41,825 --> 00:12:44,726 Nah, if I'm home alone, I'll still hear it. 282 00:12:44,728 --> 00:12:46,361 All right, so how do youla that? 283 00:12:46,363 --> 00:12:49,498 I don't know. I think it might be the cat. 284 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,133 Cat? 285 00:12:51,135 --> 00:12:52,968 What's the cat weigh? Six pounds? I mean... 286 00:12:52,970 --> 00:12:55,837 Maybe. I don't really know what it is. 287 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:57,606 All right. Is there anything else that's going on with you? 288 00:12:57,608 --> 00:12:58,974 Uh, yeah. Sometimes, you know, 289 00:12:58,976 --> 00:13:00,442 if I'm out in the garage working, 290 00:13:00,444 --> 00:13:02,044 I just kind of get this weird feeling 291 00:13:02,046 --> 00:13:04,079 somebody's staring at you. 292 00:13:04,081 --> 00:13:05,981 And how do you explain that one? 293 00:13:05,983 --> 00:13:07,950 I was told that the previous owner, 294 00:13:07,952 --> 00:13:10,619 he committed suicide. 295 00:13:10,621 --> 00:13:12,054 Okay, do you know how? 296 00:13:12,056 --> 00:13:13,989 I was told he shut the garage doors 297 00:13:13,991 --> 00:13:17,993 and, uh, ran his lawnmower. 298 00:13:17,995 --> 00:13:19,928 That's something I'll definitely look into. 299 00:13:19,930 --> 00:13:21,163 Anything else? 300 00:13:21,165 --> 00:13:22,564 Uh, I'm tired a lot. 301 00:13:22,566 --> 00:13:24,733 Is it while you're home or while you're at work? 302 00:13:24,735 --> 00:13:26,768 Usually when I'm home. Actually, when I leave, 303 00:13:26,770 --> 00:13:29,037 and I go to work, I feel... I feel pretty good. 304 00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:30,672 Mold or anything like that in the house 305 00:13:30,674 --> 00:13:32,040 when you had it inspected? 306 00:13:32,042 --> 00:13:33,408 No. 307 00:13:33,410 --> 00:13:35,510 Well, it doesn't sound like you're much of a skeptic. 308 00:13:35,512 --> 00:13:37,479 Maybe. I love my family. 309 00:13:37,481 --> 00:13:39,615 I'm gonna do whatever I can to keep 'em safe. 310 00:13:39,617 --> 00:13:41,650 - Okay. - That's why you're here. 311 00:13:45,489 --> 00:13:46,822 Got it. 312 00:13:46,824 --> 00:13:48,757 Okay, I think I know what's going on. 313 00:13:51,195 --> 00:13:55,163 Wow, this one was hard to figure out. 314 00:13:55,165 --> 00:13:57,766 - So what do think's happening? - I'm pretty damn sure. 315 00:13:57,768 --> 00:13:59,601 There are Native Americans here 316 00:13:59,603 --> 00:14:02,771 who are not mentally sound. 317 00:14:02,773 --> 00:14:05,807 And I think, if a person, 318 00:14:05,809 --> 00:14:07,442 a living person, is in this area, 319 00:14:07,444 --> 00:14:09,678 they can form an attachment. 320 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,179 Have they made this attachment? 321 00:14:11,181 --> 00:14:14,216 Yes. To a living male here. 322 00:14:14,218 --> 00:14:16,852 And I think these Native Americans, 323 00:14:16,854 --> 00:14:20,956 that they're acting like a demon 324 00:14:20,958 --> 00:14:24,626 and that they're influencing a living male here 325 00:14:24,628 --> 00:14:29,264 to potentially, uh, kill his whole family. 326 00:14:29,266 --> 00:14:30,799 Why do they want to do that? 327 00:14:30,801 --> 00:14:33,201 They're just crazy. 328 00:14:49,721 --> 00:14:52,221 Look, I always ask homeowners for leads on history. 329 00:14:52,223 --> 00:14:54,223 Half the time, they're useless. 330 00:14:54,225 --> 00:14:57,493 But in this case, turns out the owner did die in the garage. 331 00:14:57,495 --> 00:14:59,295 I'm heading over to meet with his sons, 332 00:14:59,297 --> 00:15:02,098 who say they don't believe his death was accidental. 333 00:15:08,806 --> 00:15:10,506 I know it's a touchy subject. Your dad 334 00:15:10,508 --> 00:15:12,441 passed away right here in this garage. 335 00:15:12,443 --> 00:15:15,211 Before we get to that, what kind of a man was your father? 336 00:15:15,213 --> 00:15:18,481 He worked two jobs. Mom stayed home with us. 337 00:15:18,483 --> 00:15:20,249 This is a picture of mom and dad, 338 00:15:20,251 --> 00:15:22,852 taken in '92. 339 00:15:22,854 --> 00:15:24,954 I know this is all very hard to talk about, 340 00:15:24,956 --> 00:15:26,922 but I got a weird question to ask both of you guys. 341 00:15:26,924 --> 00:15:31,527 Um, did mom and/or dad ever talk 342 00:15:31,529 --> 00:15:33,696 about anything strange going on in the house 343 00:15:33,698 --> 00:15:36,432 that they couldn't explain? 344 00:15:36,434 --> 00:15:38,067 Dad said one time 345 00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:42,838 that he thought the house was haunted. 346 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,974 I know your dad died in 2011. 347 00:15:44,976 --> 00:15:46,709 Is that right? 348 00:15:46,711 --> 00:15:48,644 Okay, is your mom still around? 349 00:15:48,646 --> 00:15:50,913 - She's passed away. - When did she die? 350 00:15:50,915 --> 00:15:52,581 It's 2002. 351 00:15:52,583 --> 00:15:56,052 She had a stage 4 brain tumor, 352 00:15:56,054 --> 00:15:57,586 and she just got tired of fighting it. 353 00:15:57,588 --> 00:16:00,956 And she passed away in the master bedroom. 354 00:16:00,958 --> 00:16:03,592 - How old was she at the time? - 76, wasn't it? 355 00:16:03,594 --> 00:16:07,163 76, okay. How'd your father take that? 356 00:16:07,165 --> 00:16:11,701 I don't think he was that upset at all. 357 00:16:11,703 --> 00:16:13,536 - That's a little strange. - Yeah. 358 00:16:13,538 --> 00:16:15,204 Sounds like you and your father didn't get along. 359 00:16:15,206 --> 00:16:16,739 No, not at all. 360 00:16:16,741 --> 00:16:18,908 I tried for 20 years in the military 361 00:16:18,910 --> 00:16:23,012 to feel like he felt I was worthy of something. 362 00:16:23,014 --> 00:16:25,181 And it never happened. 363 00:16:25,183 --> 00:16:27,850 All right. So what happened after your mom passed? 364 00:16:27,852 --> 00:16:29,819 Within a week or so after Mom died, 365 00:16:29,821 --> 00:16:32,088 he had a couple girls living here. 366 00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:34,290 Wait a minute. How old was your father again at this time? 367 00:16:34,292 --> 00:16:35,691 About 82. 368 00:16:35,693 --> 00:16:37,993 And how old were the two women that moved in here. 369 00:16:37,995 --> 00:16:40,429 In their 30s. 370 00:16:40,431 --> 00:16:41,997 They was taking his money. 371 00:16:41,999 --> 00:16:44,934 He'd gone through at least $100,000. 372 00:16:44,936 --> 00:16:48,104 He pawned everything he had. 373 00:16:48,106 --> 00:16:50,740 Now, I know your dad died right here in the garage. 374 00:16:50,742 --> 00:16:52,641 What was the official cause of death? 375 00:16:52,643 --> 00:16:54,810 Carbon monoxide toxicity. 376 00:16:54,812 --> 00:16:58,981 Here's a copy of the autopsy report. 377 00:16:58,983 --> 00:17:01,217 Where'd they say that was coming from? 378 00:17:01,219 --> 00:17:03,486 There was a lawnmower sitting right here that was running. 379 00:17:03,488 --> 00:17:05,621 How old was your father at the time? 380 00:17:05,623 --> 00:17:07,456 - 86. - Was he in bad health? 381 00:17:07,458 --> 00:17:10,159 - No. - He could outdo me, no problem. 382 00:17:10,161 --> 00:17:11,660 What do you think happened? 383 00:17:11,662 --> 00:17:14,663 I think he was killed in there and brought out here. 384 00:17:14,665 --> 00:17:16,699 - You think he was killed? - Yeah. 385 00:17:16,701 --> 00:17:18,234 Do you agree with that, Kim? 386 00:17:18,236 --> 00:17:20,336 Yeah, I don't believe he committed suicide. 387 00:17:20,338 --> 00:17:22,171 What happens to these two girls that are living in the house? 388 00:17:22,173 --> 00:17:23,639 Were they ever questioned? 389 00:17:23,641 --> 00:17:25,407 No. 390 00:17:30,314 --> 00:17:32,181 Don't like it in here. 391 00:17:32,183 --> 00:17:34,683 I feel like death. There's a lot of death. 392 00:17:38,589 --> 00:17:41,257 Ugh, like the ground is just [bleep] 393 00:17:41,259 --> 00:17:42,491 Saturated with it. 394 00:17:42,493 --> 00:17:44,627 Feels very deep here. 395 00:17:46,831 --> 00:17:48,297 I feel a male. 396 00:17:48,299 --> 00:17:51,267 And I feel death and darkness. 397 00:17:51,269 --> 00:17:53,202 I feel, like, a loss of control. 398 00:17:53,204 --> 00:17:56,038 And I feel something around my neck. 399 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,274 Ugh, I feel like I'm being strangled. 400 00:18:02,246 --> 00:18:05,815 So far, I know of two deaths on my client's property... 401 00:18:05,817 --> 00:18:09,185 one in the master bedroom, the other in the garage. 402 00:18:09,187 --> 00:18:11,020 But I want to see if there's anything more 403 00:18:11,022 --> 00:18:14,190 that could help my case. 404 00:18:14,192 --> 00:18:18,394 Searching through old records, I find the Martin family. 405 00:18:18,396 --> 00:18:20,429 Turns out, they lost four of their seven children 406 00:18:20,431 --> 00:18:22,364 while living on Emily and Chris' land. 407 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:27,770 So I asked the local genealogist 408 00:18:27,772 --> 00:18:29,138 to look into these deaths for me. 409 00:18:29,140 --> 00:18:30,606 I'm meeting her at a small cemetery 410 00:18:30,608 --> 00:18:32,374 right near Emily and Chris' property, 411 00:18:32,376 --> 00:18:34,076 where she says she's got something to show me 412 00:18:34,078 --> 00:18:35,644 that might help my case. 413 00:18:43,821 --> 00:18:45,955 So Kathryn, I appreciate you helping me out with the case. 414 00:18:45,957 --> 00:18:47,323 But why'd you want to meet here? 415 00:18:47,325 --> 00:18:49,325 Well, this is where a lot of the Martin family is buried. 416 00:18:49,327 --> 00:18:50,693 - Right here? - Yes, sir. 417 00:18:50,695 --> 00:18:52,428 - Okay. - Mm-hmm. 418 00:18:52,430 --> 00:18:54,163 Before we get to the deaths of these kids, 419 00:18:54,165 --> 00:18:55,731 um, what do we know about the family? 420 00:18:55,733 --> 00:19:00,202 John Graves Martin owned this land from 1875 to 1927. 421 00:19:00,204 --> 00:19:02,371 Do you know how much property they had here? 422 00:19:02,373 --> 00:19:05,975 Yeah, at its peak, the Martins had 560 acres. 423 00:19:05,977 --> 00:19:08,210 So we know from the census he lost four kids. 424 00:19:08,212 --> 00:19:09,745 - Yes. - All right. 425 00:19:09,747 --> 00:19:11,113 So what were you able to find out? 426 00:19:11,115 --> 00:19:13,482 Well, unfortunately, not much. During this time period, 427 00:19:13,484 --> 00:19:15,818 Tennessee didn't require death certificates. 428 00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:18,687 - Okay. - So what we do know is, by 1900, 429 00:19:18,689 --> 00:19:20,122 he'd lost two of the children. 430 00:19:20,124 --> 00:19:22,658 And by 1910, he lost the other two. 431 00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:24,293 Okay, do we know what they died from, 432 00:19:24,295 --> 00:19:25,928 how old, their names, stuff like that? 433 00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:28,831 We only know the name of one of their daughters, named Era. 434 00:19:28,833 --> 00:19:31,467 And she passed away before 1910. 435 00:19:31,469 --> 00:19:33,736 So now there's three kids left. What happened with them? 436 00:19:33,738 --> 00:19:35,604 Well, all of them grew up to have families 437 00:19:35,606 --> 00:19:37,439 and lived here in Tennessee. 438 00:19:37,441 --> 00:19:40,009 Okay. 439 00:19:40,011 --> 00:19:41,977 AMY: The violent woman 440 00:19:41,979 --> 00:19:45,281 who attacked me is following me wherever I go. 441 00:19:45,283 --> 00:19:47,516 She may hate that I'm here, but I'm not leaving 442 00:19:47,518 --> 00:19:50,319 until I find out who she was in life. 443 00:19:50,321 --> 00:19:52,054 MATT: Can you describe what she looks like? 444 00:19:52,056 --> 00:19:58,327 Seeing her young, she looks like she could be from anytime 445 00:19:58,329 --> 00:20:01,030 from 1870 to, like, 1920. 446 00:20:01,032 --> 00:20:03,299 But when she shows herself as an old lady, 447 00:20:03,301 --> 00:20:05,301 she's looking real recent. 448 00:20:09,774 --> 00:20:12,741 She's talking about something about her father, 449 00:20:12,743 --> 00:20:17,079 'cause she's talking about how her father was a good man. 450 00:20:17,081 --> 00:20:18,914 You know, I think her whole family got 451 00:20:18,916 --> 00:20:20,883 [bleep]. 452 00:20:20,885 --> 00:20:23,786 Something... Something bad. 453 00:20:23,788 --> 00:20:25,788 Some kind of vendetta. 454 00:20:25,790 --> 00:20:28,157 She is fixated on... 455 00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:30,025 on children. 456 00:20:30,027 --> 00:20:32,194 She's trying to protect the living children 457 00:20:32,196 --> 00:20:35,197 from the male... the living male in the house, 458 00:20:35,199 --> 00:20:38,067 because she, I believe, 459 00:20:38,069 --> 00:20:40,536 understands that there's an attachment 460 00:20:40,538 --> 00:20:44,039 that's influencing him to potentially harm the children. 461 00:20:45,609 --> 00:20:47,543 This is really close to my client's property. 462 00:20:47,545 --> 00:20:50,012 Indeed, this was part of the original Martin farm. 463 00:20:50,014 --> 00:20:52,081 - Who owns it now? - John Graves Martin 464 00:20:52,083 --> 00:20:55,384 sold this cemetery to the city of Estill Springs 465 00:20:55,386 --> 00:20:57,419 in 1900 for $30, 466 00:20:57,421 --> 00:20:59,588 but there was a stipulation in the deed. 467 00:21:02,293 --> 00:21:06,729 He wrote in there that it was for whites and no other. 468 00:21:06,731 --> 00:21:08,797 - Now, did that change? - It did. 469 00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:12,101 Now it's a city cemetery, so anyone can be buried here. 470 00:21:12,103 --> 00:21:14,770 There's more than 860 burials here. 471 00:21:14,772 --> 00:21:17,139 People are still being buried here today. 472 00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:24,913 There's a lot of dead around, 473 00:21:24,915 --> 00:21:26,648 restless souls. 474 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:28,751 MATT: How many? 475 00:21:28,753 --> 00:21:32,821 Thirty to 40, maybe, people? 476 00:21:32,823 --> 00:21:34,957 And this is all different [bleep] time periods. 477 00:21:34,959 --> 00:21:38,694 This is very, um, weird. 478 00:21:38,696 --> 00:21:42,398 Like, some are old, you know, like, way old. 479 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,634 Some of them, they're like recent 480 00:21:45,636 --> 00:21:48,170 and that they could do real harm. 481 00:21:48,172 --> 00:21:51,740 Something's not right here. Something's not right. 482 00:21:58,649 --> 00:22:00,149 If you need us to investigate 483 00:22:00,151 --> 00:22:02,051 unexplained activity in your home, 484 00:22:02,053 --> 00:22:04,586 go to the Dead Files page at travelchannel.com. 485 00:22:04,588 --> 00:22:06,488 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story. 486 00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:07,823 And we'll help if we can. 487 00:22:15,437 --> 00:22:18,038 You know, something else caught my attention in research. 488 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,841 A brutal case where a mob tortured and killed a black man 489 00:22:20,843 --> 00:22:22,976 right near Emily and Chris' house. 490 00:22:22,978 --> 00:22:24,544 I'm heading over to meet with a local professor 491 00:22:24,546 --> 00:22:26,346 who said it was one of the most heinous crimes 492 00:22:26,348 --> 00:22:28,081 in the state's history. 493 00:22:34,957 --> 00:22:37,958 Doing my research, I came across this lynching that took place, 494 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,593 looks like, right by my client's property. 495 00:22:39,595 --> 00:22:41,395 - Mm-hmm. - What do you know about it? 496 00:22:41,397 --> 00:22:44,264 This happens February 8th, 1918. 497 00:22:44,266 --> 00:22:47,033 Jim Mcllherron was an African-American male 498 00:22:47,035 --> 00:22:48,368 walking down Main Street. 499 00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:50,270 And he's confronted by three white men. 500 00:22:50,272 --> 00:22:51,905 They start throwing rocks at him 501 00:22:51,907 --> 00:22:53,774 and throwing racial epithets at him. 502 00:22:53,776 --> 00:22:55,842 - What happens next? - They pick on the wrong guy. 503 00:22:55,844 --> 00:22:57,778 Mcllherron is an expert marksman. 504 00:22:57,780 --> 00:22:59,780 He's armed. He pulls out his gun. 505 00:22:59,782 --> 00:23:01,381 He shoots six shots. 506 00:23:01,383 --> 00:23:03,784 When the dust clears, two of the men are dead 507 00:23:03,786 --> 00:23:05,752 and one is, uh, badly injured. 508 00:23:05,754 --> 00:23:07,354 I have a copy of the two death certificates 509 00:23:07,356 --> 00:23:08,555 of the men who died. 510 00:23:08,557 --> 00:23:10,257 Oh, so he kills two out of the three guys. 511 00:23:10,259 --> 00:23:12,459 Yes, sir. 512 00:23:12,461 --> 00:23:14,327 It's in broad daylight. 513 00:23:14,329 --> 00:23:16,029 He knows he has to get out of town immediately. 514 00:23:16,031 --> 00:23:18,098 He goes about 40 miles, uh, 515 00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,567 to a place called McMinnville, a small town. 516 00:23:20,569 --> 00:23:23,103 And when word of this shooting happens, 517 00:23:23,105 --> 00:23:25,105 several hundred men 518 00:23:25,107 --> 00:23:27,541 start to create a mob to follow him. 519 00:23:27,543 --> 00:23:30,243 They collect dogs. They find him in a barn. 520 00:23:30,245 --> 00:23:32,412 Uh, they surround him. A shootout ensues. 521 00:23:32,414 --> 00:23:33,947 Hundreds of shots are fired. 522 00:23:33,949 --> 00:23:36,616 Mcllherron is shot in the eye, 523 00:23:36,618 --> 00:23:38,869 in the arm, and in the leg. 524 00:23:38,871 --> 00:23:42,172 Okay. 525 00:23:42,174 --> 00:23:44,908 AMY: Something bad happened. 526 00:23:44,910 --> 00:23:48,044 This was a long time ago, during the day. 527 00:23:48,046 --> 00:23:50,780 Something bad happened. And it... 528 00:23:50,782 --> 00:23:55,552 And that set the stage for all the [bleep] up [bleep] 529 00:23:55,554 --> 00:23:58,088 That has happened since and is happening now. 530 00:24:01,026 --> 00:24:02,926 Oh, [bleep] no. Hell no! 531 00:24:02,928 --> 00:24:04,227 What? 532 00:24:04,229 --> 00:24:05,929 Somebody... Okay, there's a lot 533 00:24:05,931 --> 00:24:08,231 of physical trauma going on here. 534 00:24:08,233 --> 00:24:12,369 People being shot or stabbed here. 535 00:24:12,371 --> 00:24:15,071 So does Mcllherron die from the gunshot wounds? 536 00:24:15,073 --> 00:24:17,174 Nope. They put him back on a train 537 00:24:17,176 --> 00:24:19,709 and take him back to Estill Springs. 538 00:24:19,711 --> 00:24:22,179 When the train arrives, about 1,500 people 539 00:24:22,181 --> 00:24:23,547 are there. 540 00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:25,215 They take him about a half a mile out. 541 00:24:25,217 --> 00:24:26,483 They make two fires. 542 00:24:26,485 --> 00:24:29,019 They tie him to a tree and begin to torture him. 543 00:24:29,021 --> 00:24:30,453 What kind of torture we talking about? 544 00:24:30,455 --> 00:24:32,355 They poked him with red-hot irons 545 00:24:32,357 --> 00:24:34,858 and shoved it into his... into his stomach. 546 00:24:34,860 --> 00:24:36,159 Okay. 547 00:24:36,161 --> 00:24:38,528 Took it out, burned either side of his neck. 548 00:24:38,530 --> 00:24:41,164 Uh, they castrated him before they burned him. 549 00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:42,699 Uh, this is not the same lynching, 550 00:24:42,701 --> 00:24:44,768 but this is the kind of gruesome spectacle 551 00:24:44,770 --> 00:24:47,804 that we're talking about. 552 00:24:47,806 --> 00:24:49,539 Jesus. 553 00:24:49,541 --> 00:24:52,509 I've seen a lot of really bad things 554 00:24:52,511 --> 00:24:54,110 in my time on the police department. 555 00:24:54,112 --> 00:24:56,279 And I got to tell ya, this is... 556 00:24:56,281 --> 00:24:59,316 It... It's pretty messed up. 557 00:24:59,318 --> 00:25:01,318 Knowing the maps at the time, this looks like 558 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,020 this might have happened either on or near my client's property. 559 00:25:04,022 --> 00:25:05,622 Does that sound right to you? 560 00:25:05,624 --> 00:25:06,790 Absolutely. 561 00:25:06,792 --> 00:25:08,892 Either right next to it, or on the property itself. 562 00:25:08,894 --> 00:25:11,194 And I know the Martin family owned it at the time. 563 00:25:11,196 --> 00:25:13,230 Would they have at least been there, 564 00:25:13,232 --> 00:25:14,731 or been involved in this lynching? 565 00:25:14,733 --> 00:25:16,066 Absolutely. 566 00:25:16,068 --> 00:25:17,701 If they weren't a part of it, I'm sure they knew about it. 567 00:25:17,703 --> 00:25:19,436 More than likely, just about everybody 568 00:25:19,438 --> 00:25:22,072 in Estill Springs was a part of this. 569 00:25:22,074 --> 00:25:24,774 Was anybody ever convicted for this lynching? 570 00:25:24,776 --> 00:25:26,109 No. 571 00:25:26,111 --> 00:25:27,911 In fact, the members of the mob took souvenirs of his body. 572 00:25:27,913 --> 00:25:30,347 They took his ears, they took a finger. 573 00:25:30,349 --> 00:25:32,082 - For what? - They displayed him 574 00:25:32,084 --> 00:25:33,750 in the local store. 575 00:25:33,752 --> 00:25:36,853 That's pretty sick. 576 00:25:36,855 --> 00:25:41,157 My, uh, Achilles, uh, got chopped. 577 00:25:41,159 --> 00:25:43,360 Um, something happened back here, 578 00:25:43,362 --> 00:25:44,928 like I got cut. 579 00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:47,297 So I'm gonna say there was, like, an attack or some... 580 00:25:47,299 --> 00:25:49,899 something like this. 581 00:25:49,901 --> 00:25:53,770 See, and more I go back, the more pain I'm feeling. 582 00:25:53,772 --> 00:25:55,538 Oh, my head hurts. 583 00:25:55,540 --> 00:25:57,340 Head hurts. 584 00:26:07,886 --> 00:26:10,920 I saw a lot of disturbing activity on my walk. 585 00:26:10,922 --> 00:26:13,089 But the dead woman attacking a living man 586 00:26:13,091 --> 00:26:15,158 had me the most concerned. 587 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,827 She had really long hair. 588 00:26:17,829 --> 00:26:21,765 And she was wearing a dress. 589 00:26:21,767 --> 00:26:25,001 She can punch people. 590 00:26:25,003 --> 00:26:28,004 And I'd like to show, like, a living man. 591 00:26:28,006 --> 00:26:30,907 And have her, like, punch him in the stomach. 592 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,613 Is this what you saw? 593 00:26:38,583 --> 00:26:40,450 Yes. 594 00:27:00,562 --> 00:27:03,463 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 595 00:27:03,465 --> 00:27:05,565 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 596 00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:08,334 and our clients for the first time. 597 00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:11,838 Amy, I'd like you to meet Emily, her husband, Chris. 598 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,540 And this her sister, Abby, 599 00:27:13,542 --> 00:27:15,208 who recently moved into their home 600 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:16,876 with her 4-year-old son. 601 00:27:16,878 --> 00:27:18,545 The main reason we were called in 602 00:27:18,547 --> 00:27:20,380 is for this beautiful, young boy here. 603 00:27:20,382 --> 00:27:21,948 This is Eli. 604 00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:24,984 This is their son 605 00:27:24,986 --> 00:27:27,253 that they adopted from China last year. 606 00:27:27,255 --> 00:27:29,756 They wanted to give him a better life. 607 00:27:29,758 --> 00:27:31,658 But the activity's so bad in the house 608 00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:33,326 that Emily actually told me 609 00:27:33,328 --> 00:27:35,595 he'd probably be better off back at that orphanage. 610 00:27:35,597 --> 00:27:38,298 It broke my heart when she said that to me. 611 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:40,433 I'm really hoping that you can give us some answers 612 00:27:40,435 --> 00:27:42,402 and, uh, help them out. 613 00:27:45,373 --> 00:27:49,142 This was one of the worst investigations 614 00:27:49,144 --> 00:27:50,977 I've ever done. 615 00:27:50,979 --> 00:27:54,247 And that's why we're here in this barn tonight 616 00:27:54,249 --> 00:27:57,116 because there was no way in hell 617 00:27:57,118 --> 00:28:00,086 I was going back to your property. 618 00:28:00,088 --> 00:28:01,721 The first place 619 00:28:01,723 --> 00:28:05,725 that I got pulled to was to the backyard. 620 00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:09,963 I walked over to the detached garage. 621 00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:13,833 And I had this overwhelming feeling 622 00:28:13,835 --> 00:28:17,370 of death and darkness in there. 623 00:28:17,372 --> 00:28:19,372 And it seemed like the ground 624 00:28:19,374 --> 00:28:22,141 was just kind of saturated with it. 625 00:28:22,143 --> 00:28:25,445 And I almost felt like I was gonna vomit. 626 00:28:25,447 --> 00:28:27,447 Wow. 627 00:28:27,449 --> 00:28:30,717 There was some male. 628 00:28:30,719 --> 00:28:33,019 And I felt, like, a loss of control. 629 00:28:33,021 --> 00:28:36,356 And then I also felt like something was around my neck. 630 00:28:36,358 --> 00:28:38,992 And I was being strangled. 631 00:28:38,994 --> 00:28:41,060 When I'm in the garage, you get this feeling 632 00:28:41,062 --> 00:28:43,696 that somebody is kind of watching you. 633 00:28:43,698 --> 00:28:44,964 Now Chris is a skeptic. 634 00:28:44,966 --> 00:28:47,066 And he always tries to figure out 635 00:28:47,068 --> 00:28:48,768 that it's not paranormal. 636 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:51,538 I'm a see-it-to-believe-it person. 637 00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:53,439 Now, before Chris and Emily owned the house, 638 00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:56,910 it was owned by Robert Dawson and his wife, Barbara. 639 00:28:56,912 --> 00:28:59,345 Um, I got a photo of that couple. 640 00:28:59,347 --> 00:29:01,781 Now, Barbara passed away from cancer 641 00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:04,751 in the master bedroom in 2007. 642 00:29:04,753 --> 00:29:06,185 Uh, she had been sick for a while. 643 00:29:06,187 --> 00:29:07,620 What was kind of funny 644 00:29:07,622 --> 00:29:09,589 is Robert, according to his two sons, 645 00:29:09,591 --> 00:29:11,724 who I interviewed, uh, 646 00:29:11,726 --> 00:29:13,660 didn't seem too broken up about it. 647 00:29:13,662 --> 00:29:15,828 Now, the guy was 82 at the time. 648 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:17,530 And a week after his wife died, 649 00:29:17,532 --> 00:29:20,833 he had two women in their 30s move in with him. 650 00:29:20,835 --> 00:29:24,337 Now, they took advantage of him, they took all his money. 651 00:29:24,339 --> 00:29:27,574 Now, 2011, he was found dead in that garage, 652 00:29:27,576 --> 00:29:29,108 according to the autopsy protocol 653 00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:31,945 that I got right here. 654 00:29:31,947 --> 00:29:35,081 Official cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning. 655 00:29:35,083 --> 00:29:38,051 That makes sense to me, that feeling of, like, 656 00:29:38,053 --> 00:29:41,287 darkness and despair and negativity. 657 00:29:41,289 --> 00:29:43,089 All that you feel in that garage 658 00:29:43,091 --> 00:29:46,292 that affects someone's personality? 659 00:29:46,294 --> 00:29:51,164 I think that a person would feel weighted down, 660 00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:55,768 an agitation, tired, drained. 661 00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:57,804 I feel a lot of that, 662 00:29:57,806 --> 00:29:59,872 just not necessarily just the garage, 663 00:29:59,874 --> 00:30:01,341 but just being in... 664 00:30:01,343 --> 00:30:03,676 on the property, I guess you could say. 665 00:30:03,678 --> 00:30:07,180 When I leave, I actually kind of feel better. 666 00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:11,784 STEVE: What else did you see? 667 00:30:11,786 --> 00:30:16,756 One of the more powerful dead people 668 00:30:16,758 --> 00:30:18,157 on your property 669 00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:20,360 is the dead woman who I met outside. 670 00:30:20,362 --> 00:30:23,496 And she was just screaming and freaking out, 671 00:30:23,498 --> 00:30:25,798 charging me like a maniac. 672 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,001 I think the living would possibly hear her 673 00:30:28,003 --> 00:30:32,205 when she's flipping out and also see her as a shadow. 674 00:30:32,207 --> 00:30:35,108 The other thing I was getting a lot with her 675 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:37,910 and about her is her fixation on children. 676 00:30:37,912 --> 00:30:40,780 And she also made it very clear 677 00:30:40,782 --> 00:30:44,884 that she does not like living adults. 678 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:48,921 The biggest concern with her is that she can be very violent, 679 00:30:48,923 --> 00:30:51,557 and unfortunately, physical. 680 00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,293 I found that out because when I was getting ready 681 00:30:54,295 --> 00:30:56,029 to go into the house, 682 00:30:56,031 --> 00:30:58,731 she freaking 683 00:30:58,733 --> 00:31:01,234 jumped me and punched me square in the stomach. 684 00:31:01,236 --> 00:31:04,203 Um, you're hitting on a lot 685 00:31:04,205 --> 00:31:06,005 of the things these guys are experiencing. 686 00:31:06,007 --> 00:31:09,042 First off, um, you say she's fixated on kids? 687 00:31:09,044 --> 00:31:10,877 - Yeah. - Emily, do me a favor 688 00:31:10,879 --> 00:31:14,814 and tell Amy what you see over Eli's crib. 689 00:31:14,816 --> 00:31:17,950 EMILY: I saw a shadow person, really tall. 690 00:31:17,952 --> 00:31:21,621 And it was just standing by his bed looking down at him. 691 00:31:21,623 --> 00:31:23,222 He wakes up at night 692 00:31:23,224 --> 00:31:26,459 screaming and crying, saying, "Scare me. Scare me." 693 00:31:26,461 --> 00:31:27,660 Tell Amy 694 00:31:27,662 --> 00:31:29,896 about the other shadow figures you see, as well. 695 00:31:29,898 --> 00:31:32,165 I see 'em around my bed all the time. 696 00:31:32,167 --> 00:31:34,200 Couple times a week, I wake up in the night 697 00:31:34,202 --> 00:31:35,702 seeing stuff. 698 00:31:35,704 --> 00:31:38,738 Do you ever hear any sounds or anything while it's going on? 699 00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:40,306 A lot of the times, I'll be home alone, 700 00:31:40,308 --> 00:31:42,108 sitting there watching TV. 701 00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:44,243 And, you know, I'll hear stuff throughout the house. 702 00:31:44,245 --> 00:31:46,679 And I just think it's the dog or a cat or... 703 00:31:46,681 --> 00:31:48,247 - Mm-hmm - Something. 704 00:31:48,249 --> 00:31:50,149 Now, is that this woman doing all this? 705 00:31:50,151 --> 00:31:54,220 It could be her. I mean, she's got issues. 706 00:31:54,222 --> 00:31:59,025 The person that she said she really dislikes the most, 707 00:31:59,027 --> 00:32:00,793 as far as living people in the house, 708 00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:03,830 is the male in the house. 709 00:32:03,832 --> 00:32:06,299 And she really has it out for him. 710 00:32:06,301 --> 00:32:10,069 And I had a sketch done 711 00:32:10,071 --> 00:32:13,439 of what she would like to do to him. 712 00:32:25,053 --> 00:32:27,954 This is what this person wants to do to you, apparently. 713 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:37,196 So she just wants to take me out? 714 00:32:37,198 --> 00:32:39,165 Yeah. 715 00:32:39,167 --> 00:32:41,868 Can she? 716 00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:44,036 Yes. 717 00:32:44,038 --> 00:32:45,972 Chris, did you think tonight you'd be a target 718 00:32:45,974 --> 00:32:47,373 when we sat down? 719 00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:49,842 I didn't think I really had much to do with it 720 00:32:49,844 --> 00:32:51,344 at all, to be honest with you. 721 00:32:51,346 --> 00:32:54,580 I'm here to help her. I'm here to support her. 722 00:32:54,582 --> 00:32:57,550 Looks like you may need the support. 723 00:32:57,552 --> 00:33:00,586 Kind of looking that way. 724 00:33:00,588 --> 00:33:03,189 You have any idea who this crazy, old bat is? 725 00:33:03,191 --> 00:33:08,928 The few things that I was able to extract from her were 726 00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:11,364 she can look a couple of different ways. 727 00:33:11,366 --> 00:33:13,499 When she showed herself as being younger, 728 00:33:13,501 --> 00:33:15,101 it looked like she could be from, like, 729 00:33:15,103 --> 00:33:17,203 1870 to 1920. 730 00:33:17,205 --> 00:33:21,974 But then, when she showed me herself older, 731 00:33:21,976 --> 00:33:25,111 it seemed extremely current. 732 00:33:25,113 --> 00:33:27,480 She was obsessed with her father. 733 00:33:27,482 --> 00:33:29,849 And she kept saying that her father was a good man 734 00:33:29,851 --> 00:33:33,152 and her whole family had gotten screwed. 735 00:33:33,154 --> 00:33:37,256 The other thing that I got was the connection with children, 736 00:33:37,258 --> 00:33:39,992 and that kids were extremely important to her 737 00:33:39,994 --> 00:33:41,761 when she was alive. 738 00:33:41,763 --> 00:33:44,897 And they're still important to her in death. 739 00:33:44,899 --> 00:33:48,267 Even though she may be scaring children, 740 00:33:48,269 --> 00:33:52,705 she's actually trying to protect them. 741 00:33:52,707 --> 00:33:55,541 So I'm just going off the dates you gave me. 742 00:33:55,543 --> 00:33:57,443 There are a couple of women who lived on the property 743 00:33:57,445 --> 00:33:59,345 that might fit the bill. 744 00:33:59,347 --> 00:34:00,980 Now, back in the late 1800s, 745 00:34:00,982 --> 00:34:04,150 this house sat in the middle of a 560-acre farm. 746 00:34:04,152 --> 00:34:07,353 The guy who owned it was named John Graves Martin. 747 00:34:07,355 --> 00:34:08,988 Well, he had seven children. Out of the seven, 748 00:34:08,990 --> 00:34:12,491 four died at a very young age. 749 00:34:12,493 --> 00:34:15,995 Three of his kids survived, and two of them were daughters. 750 00:34:15,997 --> 00:34:17,663 The one that makes the most sense, 751 00:34:17,665 --> 00:34:19,632 based on what you told me, is Edna Martin. 752 00:34:19,634 --> 00:34:22,902 Now, she was born in 1895, grew up on the land. 753 00:34:22,904 --> 00:34:24,804 And she died in 1986. 754 00:34:24,806 --> 00:34:26,772 The other thing is you mentioned 755 00:34:26,774 --> 00:34:29,342 her being protective of the father. 756 00:34:29,344 --> 00:34:31,944 John Graves Martin built a cemetery right on the property. 757 00:34:31,946 --> 00:34:33,512 But when he sold it to the city, 758 00:34:33,514 --> 00:34:36,883 he said it had to be for whites only. 759 00:34:36,885 --> 00:34:38,818 To me, it feels like Edna. 760 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:41,387 Like, looking back at this whole thing, 761 00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:44,757 I almost feel like the punch in the stomach was... 762 00:34:44,759 --> 00:34:46,893 was a second warning. 763 00:34:46,895 --> 00:34:49,028 Warning for what? 764 00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:51,631 To [bleep] leave. 765 00:34:54,502 --> 00:34:56,636 When I walked through the door, 766 00:34:56,638 --> 00:34:59,272 I'm hearing this, like, growling. 767 00:34:59,274 --> 00:35:02,141 And it just sounded like what you would imagine, like, 768 00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:06,946 a demon voice to sound like. 769 00:35:06,948 --> 00:35:10,249 The other thing was how it was projecting itself. 770 00:35:10,251 --> 00:35:12,118 And what it looked like was, 771 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,788 like, it had these long arms. 772 00:35:15,790 --> 00:35:18,991 And then it had, like, this human, deformed head. 773 00:35:18,993 --> 00:35:22,094 My sister's daughter, 774 00:35:22,096 --> 00:35:28,100 she woke up to a black, hooded figure with red eyes. 775 00:35:28,102 --> 00:35:31,871 Abby's son had a dream just like that. 776 00:35:31,873 --> 00:35:34,040 ABBY: He said that there was a bunch of 777 00:35:34,042 --> 00:35:36,509 vampire-type people standing in a group with capes. 778 00:35:36,511 --> 00:35:38,177 And they kept just staring at him. 779 00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:39,745 And he woke up. 780 00:35:39,747 --> 00:35:42,848 So is this something that Chris' niece might have seen? 781 00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:45,818 Yes. 782 00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:47,620 It took me a while to figure out, 783 00:35:47,622 --> 00:35:49,288 but then it finally hit me. 784 00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:51,023 This thing is not a demon. 785 00:35:51,025 --> 00:35:54,560 It's dead Native Americans who are mentally ill. 786 00:35:54,562 --> 00:35:56,095 And they are projecting themselves 787 00:35:56,097 --> 00:35:58,064 as a demon to scare you. 788 00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:02,735 They can focus in on people's weaknesses 789 00:36:02,737 --> 00:36:05,438 very quickly and easily. 790 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,007 And so someone has a predisposition 791 00:36:08,009 --> 00:36:11,177 to being depressed, anxious, angry, 792 00:36:11,179 --> 00:36:14,780 they will draw that out and amplify it tenfold. 793 00:36:14,782 --> 00:36:16,282 I woke up in the middle of the night, 794 00:36:16,284 --> 00:36:19,418 just that bad, heavy chest feeling. 795 00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:20,987 Can't breathe. 796 00:36:20,989 --> 00:36:23,089 And I constantly... It seems to be actually 797 00:36:23,091 --> 00:36:24,824 getting worse over the past couple of weeks. 798 00:36:24,826 --> 00:36:28,060 Yeah, like, I can't even get out of bed some days. 799 00:36:28,062 --> 00:36:31,397 We aggravate each other, and it's nonstop. 800 00:36:33,167 --> 00:36:34,800 What... What the hell do they want? 801 00:36:34,802 --> 00:36:37,370 You know, they definitely keyed in on, you know, 802 00:36:37,372 --> 00:36:39,839 the male of the house. 803 00:36:39,841 --> 00:36:43,676 I saw this thing form attachments to this male. 804 00:36:43,678 --> 00:36:47,546 And they've already attached themselves to you. 805 00:36:47,548 --> 00:36:49,448 Whoa. 806 00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:52,618 Slight things could be headaches, sleeplessness. 807 00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:55,354 Uh, there might be some sleepwalking incidents. 808 00:36:55,356 --> 00:36:58,357 I'm a sleepwalker. 809 00:36:58,359 --> 00:37:00,960 Other people might see the behaviors 810 00:37:00,962 --> 00:37:04,563 more than the individual who's being directly affected. 811 00:37:04,565 --> 00:37:06,899 And things that they would notice might be 812 00:37:06,901 --> 00:37:09,068 abnormal aggressive behavior that doesn't make sense 813 00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:10,870 for that individual. 814 00:37:10,872 --> 00:37:13,205 Yeah. I mean, he's a different person. 815 00:37:13,207 --> 00:37:15,408 - The snapping, real... - Yeah. 816 00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:17,109 You know, just snaps real quick. 817 00:37:17,111 --> 00:37:19,111 He never used to do that, ever. 818 00:37:19,113 --> 00:37:22,782 The problem is is that this attachment obviously 819 00:37:22,784 --> 00:37:25,551 can be extremely dangerous. 820 00:37:25,553 --> 00:37:29,088 And the thing that I did get, um, 821 00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:32,591 was that their ultimate goal would be 822 00:37:32,593 --> 00:37:37,296 for this individual to harm and/or kill the entire family. 823 00:37:41,269 --> 00:37:42,968 STEVE: All right. So let me get this straight. 824 00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:44,737 You're saying that whatever's there 825 00:37:44,739 --> 00:37:47,573 is trying to influence him to kill his family? 826 00:37:47,575 --> 00:37:49,308 Absolutely. 827 00:37:51,946 --> 00:37:55,214 I'm extremely frightened for you and your family. 828 00:38:11,157 --> 00:38:13,091 STEVE: So, Chris, I got to be honest. 829 00:38:13,093 --> 00:38:16,527 You had so few experiences and seemed like such a skeptic, 830 00:38:16,529 --> 00:38:19,230 I almost thought about leaving you out of the review. 831 00:38:19,232 --> 00:38:21,232 But now we have to figure out 832 00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:24,235 how to save not only you, 833 00:38:24,237 --> 00:38:26,437 but your beautiful family. 834 00:38:26,439 --> 00:38:28,773 Uh, for that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 835 00:38:31,711 --> 00:38:34,078 So there's a deceased female 836 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,316 at the location who might be Edna, 837 00:38:38,318 --> 00:38:40,985 who is unstable. 838 00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:43,688 And she's coming after you because she's afraid 839 00:38:43,690 --> 00:38:46,491 you're going to hurt the kids. 840 00:38:46,493 --> 00:38:51,696 And then you have the unstable Native Americans 841 00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:53,965 who are targeting your family 842 00:38:53,967 --> 00:38:57,001 to, essentially, be exterminated. 843 00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:03,474 Here are the things that can be done. 844 00:39:03,476 --> 00:39:07,812 The first thing is the garage needs to be cleansed. 845 00:39:07,814 --> 00:39:11,716 That should remove all of that residual 846 00:39:11,718 --> 00:39:13,885 negative darkness that, 847 00:39:13,887 --> 00:39:19,123 unfortunately, is surrounding the male's demise there. 848 00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:22,060 After that, I want her gone. 849 00:39:22,062 --> 00:39:24,429 So what I would like to see with her 850 00:39:24,431 --> 00:39:27,265 would be a male medium brought in 851 00:39:27,267 --> 00:39:31,936 who has a very authoritative kind of presence. 852 00:39:31,938 --> 00:39:35,273 And that individual should come and move her on. 853 00:39:35,275 --> 00:39:36,974 This might take a couple of visits 854 00:39:36,976 --> 00:39:40,378 just because she is wicked. 855 00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:43,247 Now, with the Native Americans, 856 00:39:43,249 --> 00:39:46,084 a team of people need to come in. 857 00:39:46,086 --> 00:39:50,154 You need a Cherokee Native American medicine person 858 00:39:50,156 --> 00:39:54,125 or shaman who needs to perform a clearing 859 00:39:54,127 --> 00:39:56,461 and removal ritual. 860 00:39:56,463 --> 00:39:58,763 At the same time, a religious person, 861 00:39:58,765 --> 00:40:00,164 such as a priest, 862 00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:02,567 needs to be brought in who performs an exorcism 863 00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:05,436 of the land... 864 00:40:05,438 --> 00:40:08,039 the house, and of you. 865 00:40:10,176 --> 00:40:14,045 Once all of this has been done, you will know within the week 866 00:40:14,047 --> 00:40:17,215 if it has been successful or not. 867 00:40:17,217 --> 00:40:19,917 If we do all this stuff, and it doesn't work... 868 00:40:19,919 --> 00:40:22,186 You just get the [bleep] in your car, 869 00:40:22,188 --> 00:40:24,188 and you leave. 870 00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:27,525 I don't want to go home. 871 00:40:27,527 --> 00:40:32,163 I'm just really nervous, anxious, worried. 872 00:40:32,165 --> 00:40:33,564 I'm scared. 873 00:40:33,566 --> 00:40:36,033 I mean, I knew it was bad. 874 00:40:36,035 --> 00:40:38,769 I just didn't think it was to that extreme. 875 00:40:38,771 --> 00:40:40,738 So what would happen if we didn't do 876 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:42,607 any of that stuff you said? We just... 877 00:40:42,609 --> 00:40:44,108 You would end up killing your family. 878 00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:49,680 You gonna do this exorcism thing? 879 00:40:49,682 --> 00:40:51,782 Or you gonna say BS on it? 880 00:40:51,784 --> 00:40:54,519 I'm willing to try. 881 00:40:54,521 --> 00:40:55,987 Well, no, no. It's not "willing to try." 882 00:40:55,989 --> 00:40:57,421 You're either gonna do it, or you're not. 883 00:40:57,423 --> 00:40:58,856 There's no in between here. 884 00:40:58,858 --> 00:41:00,691 I mean, if it'll make me feel better. 885 00:41:00,693 --> 00:41:02,360 It's not a matter of feeling better. 886 00:41:02,362 --> 00:41:04,362 She's telling you, "If you don't get this done, 887 00:41:04,364 --> 00:41:06,864 you're gonna do harm to your own family." 888 00:41:06,866 --> 00:41:09,634 So, Chris, you gonna have this exorcism done? 889 00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:11,669 - Yeah. - Okay. 890 00:41:11,671 --> 00:41:14,705 Well, do I have to even ask you if you're gonna do this stuff? 891 00:41:14,707 --> 00:41:16,641 I'm definitely doing it. 892 00:41:16,643 --> 00:41:18,176 I'll do whatever it takes. 893 00:41:18,178 --> 00:41:21,812 It's crazy to me to think... 894 00:41:21,814 --> 00:41:24,282 that this is happening to me. 895 00:41:24,284 --> 00:41:25,983 It's just hard to say, "No," 896 00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:28,186 when everything you said is so right. 897 00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:33,524 AMY: The only way Chris can save himself and his family 898 00:41:33,526 --> 00:41:36,594 is to bring in a priest to perform an exorcism. 899 00:41:36,596 --> 00:41:39,630 If that works, a medium and a team of shaman 900 00:41:39,632 --> 00:41:41,598 can clear out the rest of the dead, 901 00:41:41,623 --> 00:41:45,359 and his family will finally be able to live a peaceful life. 902 00:41:45,409 --> 00:41:49,959 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 68057

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