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AMY: There's a lot of death.
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The ground is just saturated with it.
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The previous owner,
he committed suicide.
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Ow! There's a lot of
physical trauma going on.
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- You think he was killed?
- Yeah.
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Somebody keeps talking
about murder, murder,
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murder, murder, murder, murder, murder,
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murder, murder, murder, murder.
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There's something.
There's something here.
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It's trying to push
me away with a force.
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It very much hates
someone in this house.
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I just hear death.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Ah, God.
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It's like, "I'm going to get you."
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I see dead people.
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Her face was all demonic.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's like, "You think you can
stop me? Because you can't."
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And they speak to me.
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- What is he trying to do?
- Kill them.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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Something happened. Bam, bam, bam!
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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They're everywhere.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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This guy's got the
markings of a serial killer.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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Is this dead guy doing that to her?
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...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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That's it.
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...or time to get out.
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Somebody's gonna die
over there soon, yeah.
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I'm in the small town of
Estill Springs, Tennessee.
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It's about 85 miles
southeast of Nashville.
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I got a call from a
young mother named Emily.
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She says whatever's in the house
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hates kids and was going
after her 3-year old son.
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She was hysterical on the phone,
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and I'm really hoping
we can help her out.
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MATT: Before Amy arrives,
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I sweep the house from top to bottom,
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looking for any leading information.
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Photographs, family heirlooms,
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even a baby's crib can
influence her findings.
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So it's important that I
cover or remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location
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will be ready for tonight's walk.
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There's some nutty woman
running towards me screaming.
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She's got issues.
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She is very physical.
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She, like, can touch people.
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Like, she's got her arm on me now.
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Ow! Okay.
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What happened?
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She was doing creepy stuff that
actually kind of made me scared.
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She made it like death.
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STEVE: When we spoke on the
phone, you sounded pretty upset.
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Most of it was because of your son, Eli.
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Yeah. We got him about a year ago.
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He was in an orphanage from China.
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He's waking up screaming in the night.
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I go in there, he is trembling.
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It's heartbreaking.
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He's obviously terrified.
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When you did adopt him, did
they give you any indication
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that he was having any issues
like you're talking about?
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He slept awesome. He slept all night.
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He took a 2-hour nap during the day.
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He had no issues.
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It's hard because we
brought him into this.
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Let me get some basic stuff from you.
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How long are you guys here?
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- We've been here about 4 years.
- Who's living in the house?
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Um, it is me, my husband, Christopher,
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and my son, Eli.
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And recently, my youngest sister, Abby,
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and her 4 year-old son have moved in.
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If you can, just give
me an abbreviated version
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of what you guys are going through here.
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Well, we've heard voices,
a feeling of being watched.
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We've seen shadow people.
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And me and my husband both
have pretty extreme mood swings.
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And when you say the mood swings,
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what are we talking about?
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He's very irritable.
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He seems anxious and nervous
about things all the time.
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I mean, that can't be
good for the marriage?
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It's really hard.
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I should be happy to be
in this home with him,
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with our new baby.
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So if we can't fix the problem
with the paranormal here,
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what do you think would happen?
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Worse things would happen to Eli.
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I fear that it will get to
the point where he gets hurt.
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I feel like it targets children.
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So this lady, she's talking
about kids, little children.
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She doesn't want me to go in this house.
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She very much hates
someone in this house.
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It feels like a male.
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Ow.
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Okay, so I got punched in the stomach.
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Do you know what by?
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Her.
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Oh, [bleep].
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Oh, that hurt like a [bleep].
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This room's pretty bad for me.
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I wake up seeing shadow
people standing by my bed.
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I mean, I wake Christopher
up, and he keeps a baseball bat
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by the bed because I've said,
"There's someone in the room.
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There's someone here."
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What are we talking about as
far as how often you see this?
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Once a week, once a month.
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It's easily a couple
times a week, if not more.
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All right. So a couple
times a week, that's scary.
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Yeah, it's a lot.
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And since we've gotten Eli,
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it seems to be that he's seeing it now,
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and that's what's waking him up.
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All right. So has
anything else happened?
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Yes, I feel someone sitting on this bed.
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How often is this happening?
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At least once a week.
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Do you think it's trying
to get into bed with you?
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I think it's sitting there
and wants to watch me.
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How the hell are you sleeping?
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I don't sleep very well.
I mean, I'm 32 years old.
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I'm sleeping with three night-lights.
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Well, listen, you're
going through hell here.
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What she's doing, I know, is not good.
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Yeah, she is [bleep] physical.
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She can move things.
She can touch people.
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I think that she's very capable of,
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like, uh, making noise?
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She can do a lot of crazy stuff.
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What's going on in here?
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I saw a shadow figure,
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and it was at this end of his bed.
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And it was, like,
peeking over like this.
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Describe what it looked like.
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It was tall, dark.
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I could see the head and the shoulders.
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You couldn't see
through it. It was solid.
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I thought someone was in his room,
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but I was frozen.
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It was horrible. I was terrified.
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I was terrified for him.
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It scares me right now to talk about it,
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to be honest.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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It just was the worst experience
I have ever had in this house.
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He was in an orphanage with no family.
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To think that it's worse here
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with a mom and dad that love him...
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That's upsetting. Don't
feel guilty, though.
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Is there anything else?
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My niece told me that she saw a monster,
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and it had a cape and red eyes.
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No arms, no legs.
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And she said she could see the body,
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like, moving up and down.
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I guess, like it was breathing?
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So is it possible he's seeing that?
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I mean, he's waking up screaming.
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He's pointed over there,
said, "Scare me, scare me."
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I feel like they want...
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that they want him.
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I definitely feel
like they're after him.
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What I'm hearing is weird noises,
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but then it's, like,
almost, like, inhuman?
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Like growling?
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But it's, like, coming from, like,
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everywhere.
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Trying to push me away, uh,
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with a force.
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And it doesn't sound human.
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MATT: You seeing it?
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I'm seeing a version of it.
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Can you describe it?
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It's, like, got long legs and arms,
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but it crawls on all four.
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It's got a weird body.
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And then, like, a
weird human-shaped face.
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It's like screaming and [bleep].
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It is a force.
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It's a legitimate force.
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This sucker is really evil.
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So, Abby, I understand that
you recently moved down here.
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Yep, about 3 to 4 months ago.
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And you moved down here with your son.
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- Yes.
- And how old is he?
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- He's 4.
- Okay.
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So, Abby, Emily told me that her
and her husband's relationship
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has kind of gone downhill
since moving here.
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Um, have you noticed that?
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- Yeah.
- You have.
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Mm-hmm. They're not happy
with each other right now.
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I noticed he snaps really quick,
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and he's said to me, "I
feel really irritated,
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and I don't know why."
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You've been here a few months.
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I know your sister's been
having a lot of activity
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since she moved in here.
What about yourself?
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Right. Well, I've had, uh,
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just an overall feeling
of being watched.
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You feel like you're
being watched right now?
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Yeah. Like, I don't...
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Like there's someone else in the corner.
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Okay. Anything else?
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My son has been having nightmares.
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He's never had nightmares like he's had
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since we moved down here.
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He's described to me
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a bunch of vampires wearing capes...
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- Okay.
- With sharp teeth and red eyes.
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So what your son described in a dream
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to you is something that
Emily's niece said she saw.
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Yeah.
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I want to feel like I
made the right choice
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and didn't bring him into
somewhere that's not safe.
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'Cause I'm...
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I moved down here to make
a better life for him and I.
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Anything else going on?
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Um, I get panic attacks.
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Okay.
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And then, like, I can't breathe.
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Like I feel like I have
to take a deep breath.
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And then my heart will just
feel like it's going really fast,
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beating out of my chest almost.
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You have any other physical problems?
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Every once in a while, I get
a feeling of nauseousness,
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like, really sick to my stomach.
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But when I'm outside, I fell better.
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There's something...
There's something here.
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AMY: I can't tell what this
strange-looking creature
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is, possibly a demon.
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If anybody has any, uh,
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predispositions to, say,
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being depressed or anxious or angry,
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it'll amplify that tenfold.
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Also, if they have any, uh,
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existing illnesses,
uh, it'll go in there
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and attack that and
make it 10 times worse.
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It can make someone very ill,
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whether mentally or physically.
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Hmm. Somebody's sleepwalking, this man.
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Male.
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I think he's being
influenced by this thing.
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And then someone just yelled, "Murder!"
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Somebody keeps talking
about murder, murder,
258
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murder, murder, murder, murder, murder,
259
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murder, murder, murder, murder.
260
00:11:57,848 --> 00:11:59,348
So, Chris, I was talking to Emily.
261
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She was talking about the stuff
that's going on in the house.
262
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Um, she said your
personality has changed
263
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since the activity picked up.
264
00:12:06,323 --> 00:12:07,656
I mean, do you agree with that?
265
00:12:07,658 --> 00:12:10,292
Yeah, she says I'm a
little bit more edgy now.
266
00:12:10,294 --> 00:12:14,496
You know, I... I can
feel I get angry faster.
267
00:12:14,498 --> 00:12:16,465
- Are you concerned about it?
- Yeah.
268
00:12:16,467 --> 00:12:18,500
I mean, I... I want to go
back to the way we used to be.
269
00:12:18,502 --> 00:12:20,102
So do you believe
Emily when she tells you
270
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about all the experiences she's having?
271
00:12:22,106 --> 00:12:23,372
- I believe her.
- Okay.
272
00:12:23,374 --> 00:12:25,173
I wish I could see
something just at least once,
273
00:12:25,175 --> 00:12:27,609
just so I can know what her
and Eli are going through.
274
00:12:27,611 --> 00:12:29,378
You've had no experiences?
275
00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:30,712
There's a few things,
276
00:12:30,714 --> 00:12:33,382
but I'm not sure if
they're paranormal not
277
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Okay, so let's go through 'em.
278
00:12:35,052 --> 00:12:37,886
Okay. I... I hear the floor creaking.
279
00:12:37,888 --> 00:12:40,155
It sounds like somebody walking.
280
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Could it be somebody walking?
281
00:12:41,825 --> 00:12:44,726
Nah, if I'm home alone,
I'll still hear it.
282
00:12:44,728 --> 00:12:46,361
All right, so how do youla that?
283
00:12:46,363 --> 00:12:49,498
I don't know. I think
it might be the cat.
284
00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,133
Cat?
285
00:12:51,135 --> 00:12:52,968
What's the cat weigh?
Six pounds? I mean...
286
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Maybe. I don't really know what it is.
287
00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:57,606
All right. Is there anything
else that's going on with you?
288
00:12:57,608 --> 00:12:58,974
Uh, yeah. Sometimes, you know,
289
00:12:58,976 --> 00:13:00,442
if I'm out in the garage working,
290
00:13:00,444 --> 00:13:02,044
I just kind of get this weird feeling
291
00:13:02,046 --> 00:13:04,079
somebody's staring at you.
292
00:13:04,081 --> 00:13:05,981
And how do you explain that one?
293
00:13:05,983 --> 00:13:07,950
I was told that the previous owner,
294
00:13:07,952 --> 00:13:10,619
he committed suicide.
295
00:13:10,621 --> 00:13:12,054
Okay, do you know how?
296
00:13:12,056 --> 00:13:13,989
I was told he shut the garage doors
297
00:13:13,991 --> 00:13:17,993
and, uh, ran his lawnmower.
298
00:13:17,995 --> 00:13:19,928
That's something I'll
definitely look into.
299
00:13:19,930 --> 00:13:21,163
Anything else?
300
00:13:21,165 --> 00:13:22,564
Uh, I'm tired a lot.
301
00:13:22,566 --> 00:13:24,733
Is it while you're home
or while you're at work?
302
00:13:24,735 --> 00:13:26,768
Usually when I'm home.
Actually, when I leave,
303
00:13:26,770 --> 00:13:29,037
and I go to work, I
feel... I feel pretty good.
304
00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:30,672
Mold or anything like that in the house
305
00:13:30,674 --> 00:13:32,040
when you had it inspected?
306
00:13:32,042 --> 00:13:33,408
No.
307
00:13:33,410 --> 00:13:35,510
Well, it doesn't sound like
you're much of a skeptic.
308
00:13:35,512 --> 00:13:37,479
Maybe. I love my family.
309
00:13:37,481 --> 00:13:39,615
I'm gonna do whatever
I can to keep 'em safe.
310
00:13:39,617 --> 00:13:41,650
- Okay.
- That's why you're here.
311
00:13:45,489 --> 00:13:46,822
Got it.
312
00:13:46,824 --> 00:13:48,757
Okay, I think I know what's going on.
313
00:13:51,195 --> 00:13:55,163
Wow, this one was hard to figure out.
314
00:13:55,165 --> 00:13:57,766
- So what do think's happening?
- I'm pretty damn sure.
315
00:13:57,768 --> 00:13:59,601
There are Native Americans here
316
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who are not mentally sound.
317
00:14:02,773 --> 00:14:05,807
And I think, if a person,
318
00:14:05,809 --> 00:14:07,442
a living person, is in this area,
319
00:14:07,444 --> 00:14:09,678
they can form an attachment.
320
00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,179
Have they made this attachment?
321
00:14:11,181 --> 00:14:14,216
Yes. To a living male here.
322
00:14:14,218 --> 00:14:16,852
And I think these Native Americans,
323
00:14:16,854 --> 00:14:20,956
that they're acting like a demon
324
00:14:20,958 --> 00:14:24,626
and that they're influencing
a living male here
325
00:14:24,628 --> 00:14:29,264
to potentially, uh,
kill his whole family.
326
00:14:29,266 --> 00:14:30,799
Why do they want to do that?
327
00:14:30,801 --> 00:14:33,201
They're just crazy.
328
00:14:49,721 --> 00:14:52,221
Look, I always ask homeowners
for leads on history.
329
00:14:52,223 --> 00:14:54,223
Half the time, they're useless.
330
00:14:54,225 --> 00:14:57,493
But in this case, turns out
the owner did die in the garage.
331
00:14:57,495 --> 00:14:59,295
I'm heading over to meet with his sons,
332
00:14:59,297 --> 00:15:02,098
who say they don't believe
his death was accidental.
333
00:15:08,806 --> 00:15:10,506
I know it's a touchy subject. Your dad
334
00:15:10,508 --> 00:15:12,441
passed away right here in this garage.
335
00:15:12,443 --> 00:15:15,211
Before we get to that, what
kind of a man was your father?
336
00:15:15,213 --> 00:15:18,481
He worked two jobs.
Mom stayed home with us.
337
00:15:18,483 --> 00:15:20,249
This is a picture of mom and dad,
338
00:15:20,251 --> 00:15:22,852
taken in '92.
339
00:15:22,854 --> 00:15:24,954
I know this is all
very hard to talk about,
340
00:15:24,956 --> 00:15:26,922
but I got a weird question
to ask both of you guys.
341
00:15:26,924 --> 00:15:31,527
Um, did mom and/or dad ever talk
342
00:15:31,529 --> 00:15:33,696
about anything strange
going on in the house
343
00:15:33,698 --> 00:15:36,432
that they couldn't explain?
344
00:15:36,434 --> 00:15:38,067
Dad said one time
345
00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:42,838
that he thought the house was haunted.
346
00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,974
I know your dad died in 2011.
347
00:15:44,976 --> 00:15:46,709
Is that right?
348
00:15:46,711 --> 00:15:48,644
Okay, is your mom still around?
349
00:15:48,646 --> 00:15:50,913
- She's passed away.
- When did she die?
350
00:15:50,915 --> 00:15:52,581
It's 2002.
351
00:15:52,583 --> 00:15:56,052
She had a stage 4 brain tumor,
352
00:15:56,054 --> 00:15:57,586
and she just got tired of fighting it.
353
00:15:57,588 --> 00:16:00,956
And she passed away
in the master bedroom.
354
00:16:00,958 --> 00:16:03,592
- How old was she at the time?
- 76, wasn't it?
355
00:16:03,594 --> 00:16:07,163
76, okay. How'd your father take that?
356
00:16:07,165 --> 00:16:11,701
I don't think he was that upset at all.
357
00:16:11,703 --> 00:16:13,536
- That's a little strange.
- Yeah.
358
00:16:13,538 --> 00:16:15,204
Sounds like you and your
father didn't get along.
359
00:16:15,206 --> 00:16:16,739
No, not at all.
360
00:16:16,741 --> 00:16:18,908
I tried for 20 years in the military
361
00:16:18,910 --> 00:16:23,012
to feel like he felt I
was worthy of something.
362
00:16:23,014 --> 00:16:25,181
And it never happened.
363
00:16:25,183 --> 00:16:27,850
All right. So what happened
after your mom passed?
364
00:16:27,852 --> 00:16:29,819
Within a week or so after Mom died,
365
00:16:29,821 --> 00:16:32,088
he had a couple girls living here.
366
00:16:32,090 --> 00:16:34,290
Wait a minute. How old was
your father again at this time?
367
00:16:34,292 --> 00:16:35,691
About 82.
368
00:16:35,693 --> 00:16:37,993
And how old were the two
women that moved in here.
369
00:16:37,995 --> 00:16:40,429
In their 30s.
370
00:16:40,431 --> 00:16:41,997
They was taking his money.
371
00:16:41,999 --> 00:16:44,934
He'd gone through at least $100,000.
372
00:16:44,936 --> 00:16:48,104
He pawned everything he had.
373
00:16:48,106 --> 00:16:50,740
Now, I know your dad died
right here in the garage.
374
00:16:50,742 --> 00:16:52,641
What was the official cause of death?
375
00:16:52,643 --> 00:16:54,810
Carbon monoxide toxicity.
376
00:16:54,812 --> 00:16:58,981
Here's a copy of the autopsy report.
377
00:16:58,983 --> 00:17:01,217
Where'd they say that was coming from?
378
00:17:01,219 --> 00:17:03,486
There was a lawnmower sitting
right here that was running.
379
00:17:03,488 --> 00:17:05,621
How old was your father at the time?
380
00:17:05,623 --> 00:17:07,456
- 86.
- Was he in bad health?
381
00:17:07,458 --> 00:17:10,159
- No.
- He could outdo me, no problem.
382
00:17:10,161 --> 00:17:11,660
What do you think happened?
383
00:17:11,662 --> 00:17:14,663
I think he was killed in
there and brought out here.
384
00:17:14,665 --> 00:17:16,699
- You think he was killed?
- Yeah.
385
00:17:16,701 --> 00:17:18,234
Do you agree with that, Kim?
386
00:17:18,236 --> 00:17:20,336
Yeah, I don't believe
he committed suicide.
387
00:17:20,338 --> 00:17:22,171
What happens to these two girls
that are living in the house?
388
00:17:22,173 --> 00:17:23,639
Were they ever questioned?
389
00:17:23,641 --> 00:17:25,407
No.
390
00:17:30,314 --> 00:17:32,181
Don't like it in here.
391
00:17:32,183 --> 00:17:34,683
I feel like death.
There's a lot of death.
392
00:17:38,589 --> 00:17:41,257
Ugh, like the ground is just [bleep]
393
00:17:41,259 --> 00:17:42,491
Saturated with it.
394
00:17:42,493 --> 00:17:44,627
Feels very deep here.
395
00:17:46,831 --> 00:17:48,297
I feel a male.
396
00:17:48,299 --> 00:17:51,267
And I feel death and darkness.
397
00:17:51,269 --> 00:17:53,202
I feel, like, a loss of control.
398
00:17:53,204 --> 00:17:56,038
And I feel something around my neck.
399
00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,274
Ugh, I feel like I'm being strangled.
400
00:18:02,246 --> 00:18:05,815
So far, I know of two deaths
on my client's property...
401
00:18:05,817 --> 00:18:09,185
one in the master bedroom,
the other in the garage.
402
00:18:09,187 --> 00:18:11,020
But I want to see if
there's anything more
403
00:18:11,022 --> 00:18:14,190
that could help my case.
404
00:18:14,192 --> 00:18:18,394
Searching through old records,
I find the Martin family.
405
00:18:18,396 --> 00:18:20,429
Turns out, they lost four
of their seven children
406
00:18:20,431 --> 00:18:22,364
while living on Emily and Chris' land.
407
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:27,770
So I asked the local genealogist
408
00:18:27,772 --> 00:18:29,138
to look into these deaths for me.
409
00:18:29,140 --> 00:18:30,606
I'm meeting her at a small cemetery
410
00:18:30,608 --> 00:18:32,374
right near Emily and Chris' property,
411
00:18:32,376 --> 00:18:34,076
where she says she's
got something to show me
412
00:18:34,078 --> 00:18:35,644
that might help my case.
413
00:18:43,821 --> 00:18:45,955
So Kathryn, I appreciate you
helping me out with the case.
414
00:18:45,957 --> 00:18:47,323
But why'd you want to meet here?
415
00:18:47,325 --> 00:18:49,325
Well, this is where a lot of
the Martin family is buried.
416
00:18:49,327 --> 00:18:50,693
- Right here?
- Yes, sir.
417
00:18:50,695 --> 00:18:52,428
- Okay.
- Mm-hmm.
418
00:18:52,430 --> 00:18:54,163
Before we get to the
deaths of these kids,
419
00:18:54,165 --> 00:18:55,731
um, what do we know about the family?
420
00:18:55,733 --> 00:19:00,202
John Graves Martin owned
this land from 1875 to 1927.
421
00:19:00,204 --> 00:19:02,371
Do you know how much
property they had here?
422
00:19:02,373 --> 00:19:05,975
Yeah, at its peak, the
Martins had 560 acres.
423
00:19:05,977 --> 00:19:08,210
So we know from the
census he lost four kids.
424
00:19:08,212 --> 00:19:09,745
- Yes.
- All right.
425
00:19:09,747 --> 00:19:11,113
So what were you able to find out?
426
00:19:11,115 --> 00:19:13,482
Well, unfortunately, not
much. During this time period,
427
00:19:13,484 --> 00:19:15,818
Tennessee didn't require
death certificates.
428
00:19:15,820 --> 00:19:18,687
- Okay.
- So what we do know is, by 1900,
429
00:19:18,689 --> 00:19:20,122
he'd lost two of the children.
430
00:19:20,124 --> 00:19:22,658
And by 1910, he lost the other two.
431
00:19:22,660 --> 00:19:24,293
Okay, do we know what they died from,
432
00:19:24,295 --> 00:19:25,928
how old, their names, stuff like that?
433
00:19:25,930 --> 00:19:28,831
We only know the name of one
of their daughters, named Era.
434
00:19:28,833 --> 00:19:31,467
And she passed away before 1910.
435
00:19:31,469 --> 00:19:33,736
So now there's three kids
left. What happened with them?
436
00:19:33,738 --> 00:19:35,604
Well, all of them grew
up to have families
437
00:19:35,606 --> 00:19:37,439
and lived here in Tennessee.
438
00:19:37,441 --> 00:19:40,009
Okay.
439
00:19:40,011 --> 00:19:41,977
AMY: The violent woman
440
00:19:41,979 --> 00:19:45,281
who attacked me is
following me wherever I go.
441
00:19:45,283 --> 00:19:47,516
She may hate that I'm
here, but I'm not leaving
442
00:19:47,518 --> 00:19:50,319
until I find out who she was in life.
443
00:19:50,321 --> 00:19:52,054
MATT: Can you describe
what she looks like?
444
00:19:52,056 --> 00:19:58,327
Seeing her young, she looks
like she could be from anytime
445
00:19:58,329 --> 00:20:01,030
from 1870 to, like, 1920.
446
00:20:01,032 --> 00:20:03,299
But when she shows
herself as an old lady,
447
00:20:03,301 --> 00:20:05,301
she's looking real recent.
448
00:20:09,774 --> 00:20:12,741
She's talking about
something about her father,
449
00:20:12,743 --> 00:20:17,079
'cause she's talking about
how her father was a good man.
450
00:20:17,081 --> 00:20:18,914
You know, I think her whole family got
451
00:20:18,916 --> 00:20:20,883
[bleep].
452
00:20:20,885 --> 00:20:23,786
Something... Something bad.
453
00:20:23,788 --> 00:20:25,788
Some kind of vendetta.
454
00:20:25,790 --> 00:20:28,157
She is fixated on...
455
00:20:28,159 --> 00:20:30,025
on children.
456
00:20:30,027 --> 00:20:32,194
She's trying to protect
the living children
457
00:20:32,196 --> 00:20:35,197
from the male... the
living male in the house,
458
00:20:35,199 --> 00:20:38,067
because she, I believe,
459
00:20:38,069 --> 00:20:40,536
understands that there's an attachment
460
00:20:40,538 --> 00:20:44,039
that's influencing him to
potentially harm the children.
461
00:20:45,609 --> 00:20:47,543
This is really close
to my client's property.
462
00:20:47,545 --> 00:20:50,012
Indeed, this was part of
the original Martin farm.
463
00:20:50,014 --> 00:20:52,081
- Who owns it now?
- John Graves Martin
464
00:20:52,083 --> 00:20:55,384
sold this cemetery to
the city of Estill Springs
465
00:20:55,386 --> 00:20:57,419
in 1900 for $30,
466
00:20:57,421 --> 00:20:59,588
but there was a stipulation in the deed.
467
00:21:02,293 --> 00:21:06,729
He wrote in there that it
was for whites and no other.
468
00:21:06,731 --> 00:21:08,797
- Now, did that change?
- It did.
469
00:21:08,799 --> 00:21:12,101
Now it's a city cemetery,
so anyone can be buried here.
470
00:21:12,103 --> 00:21:14,770
There's more than 860 burials here.
471
00:21:14,772 --> 00:21:17,139
People are still being
buried here today.
472
00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:24,913
There's a lot of dead around,
473
00:21:24,915 --> 00:21:26,648
restless souls.
474
00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:28,751
MATT: How many?
475
00:21:28,753 --> 00:21:32,821
Thirty to 40, maybe, people?
476
00:21:32,823 --> 00:21:34,957
And this is all different
[bleep] time periods.
477
00:21:34,959 --> 00:21:38,694
This is very, um, weird.
478
00:21:38,696 --> 00:21:42,398
Like, some are old,
you know, like, way old.
479
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,634
Some of them, they're like recent
480
00:21:45,636 --> 00:21:48,170
and that they could do real harm.
481
00:21:48,172 --> 00:21:51,740
Something's not right
here. Something's not right.
482
00:21:58,649 --> 00:22:00,149
If you need us to investigate
483
00:22:00,151 --> 00:22:02,051
unexplained activity in your home,
484
00:22:02,053 --> 00:22:04,586
go to the Dead Files
page at travelchannel.com.
485
00:22:04,588 --> 00:22:06,488
Click on "Help me, Dead
Files!" to submit your story.
486
00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:07,823
And we'll help if we can.
487
00:22:15,437 --> 00:22:18,038
You know, something else
caught my attention in research.
488
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,841
A brutal case where a mob
tortured and killed a black man
489
00:22:20,843 --> 00:22:22,976
right near Emily and Chris' house.
490
00:22:22,978 --> 00:22:24,544
I'm heading over to meet
with a local professor
491
00:22:24,546 --> 00:22:26,346
who said it was one of
the most heinous crimes
492
00:22:26,348 --> 00:22:28,081
in the state's history.
493
00:22:34,957 --> 00:22:37,958
Doing my research, I came across
this lynching that took place,
494
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,593
looks like, right by
my client's property.
495
00:22:39,595 --> 00:22:41,395
- Mm-hmm. - What do
you know about it?
496
00:22:41,397 --> 00:22:44,264
This happens February 8th, 1918.
497
00:22:44,266 --> 00:22:47,033
Jim Mcllherron was an
African-American male
498
00:22:47,035 --> 00:22:48,368
walking down Main Street.
499
00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:50,270
And he's confronted by three white men.
500
00:22:50,272 --> 00:22:51,905
They start throwing rocks at him
501
00:22:51,907 --> 00:22:53,774
and throwing racial epithets at him.
502
00:22:53,776 --> 00:22:55,842
- What happens next?
- They pick on the wrong guy.
503
00:22:55,844 --> 00:22:57,778
Mcllherron is an expert marksman.
504
00:22:57,780 --> 00:22:59,780
He's armed. He pulls out his gun.
505
00:22:59,782 --> 00:23:01,381
He shoots six shots.
506
00:23:01,383 --> 00:23:03,784
When the dust clears,
two of the men are dead
507
00:23:03,786 --> 00:23:05,752
and one is, uh, badly injured.
508
00:23:05,754 --> 00:23:07,354
I have a copy of the
two death certificates
509
00:23:07,356 --> 00:23:08,555
of the men who died.
510
00:23:08,557 --> 00:23:10,257
Oh, so he kills two
out of the three guys.
511
00:23:10,259 --> 00:23:12,459
Yes, sir.
512
00:23:12,461 --> 00:23:14,327
It's in broad daylight.
513
00:23:14,329 --> 00:23:16,029
He knows he has to get
out of town immediately.
514
00:23:16,031 --> 00:23:18,098
He goes about 40 miles, uh,
515
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,567
to a place called
McMinnville, a small town.
516
00:23:20,569 --> 00:23:23,103
And when word of this shooting happens,
517
00:23:23,105 --> 00:23:25,105
several hundred men
518
00:23:25,107 --> 00:23:27,541
start to create a mob to follow him.
519
00:23:27,543 --> 00:23:30,243
They collect dogs.
They find him in a barn.
520
00:23:30,245 --> 00:23:32,412
Uh, they surround
him. A shootout ensues.
521
00:23:32,414 --> 00:23:33,947
Hundreds of shots are fired.
522
00:23:33,949 --> 00:23:36,616
Mcllherron is shot in the eye,
523
00:23:36,618 --> 00:23:38,869
in the arm, and in the leg.
524
00:23:38,871 --> 00:23:42,172
Okay.
525
00:23:42,174 --> 00:23:44,908
AMY: Something bad happened.
526
00:23:44,910 --> 00:23:48,044
This was a long time
ago, during the day.
527
00:23:48,046 --> 00:23:50,780
Something bad happened. And it...
528
00:23:50,782 --> 00:23:55,552
And that set the stage for
all the [bleep] up [bleep]
529
00:23:55,554 --> 00:23:58,088
That has happened since
and is happening now.
530
00:24:01,026 --> 00:24:02,926
Oh, [bleep] no. Hell no!
531
00:24:02,928 --> 00:24:04,227
What?
532
00:24:04,229 --> 00:24:05,929
Somebody... Okay, there's a lot
533
00:24:05,931 --> 00:24:08,231
of physical trauma going on here.
534
00:24:08,233 --> 00:24:12,369
People being shot or stabbed here.
535
00:24:12,371 --> 00:24:15,071
So does Mcllherron die
from the gunshot wounds?
536
00:24:15,073 --> 00:24:17,174
Nope. They put him back on a train
537
00:24:17,176 --> 00:24:19,709
and take him back to Estill Springs.
538
00:24:19,711 --> 00:24:22,179
When the train arrives,
about 1,500 people
539
00:24:22,181 --> 00:24:23,547
are there.
540
00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:25,215
They take him about a half a mile out.
541
00:24:25,217 --> 00:24:26,483
They make two fires.
542
00:24:26,485 --> 00:24:29,019
They tie him to a tree
and begin to torture him.
543
00:24:29,021 --> 00:24:30,453
What kind of torture we talking about?
544
00:24:30,455 --> 00:24:32,355
They poked him with red-hot irons
545
00:24:32,357 --> 00:24:34,858
and shoved it into
his... into his stomach.
546
00:24:34,860 --> 00:24:36,159
Okay.
547
00:24:36,161 --> 00:24:38,528
Took it out, burned
either side of his neck.
548
00:24:38,530 --> 00:24:41,164
Uh, they castrated him
before they burned him.
549
00:24:41,166 --> 00:24:42,699
Uh, this is not the same lynching,
550
00:24:42,701 --> 00:24:44,768
but this is the kind
of gruesome spectacle
551
00:24:44,770 --> 00:24:47,804
that we're talking about.
552
00:24:47,806 --> 00:24:49,539
Jesus.
553
00:24:49,541 --> 00:24:52,509
I've seen a lot of really bad things
554
00:24:52,511 --> 00:24:54,110
in my time on the police department.
555
00:24:54,112 --> 00:24:56,279
And I got to tell ya, this is...
556
00:24:56,281 --> 00:24:59,316
It... It's pretty messed up.
557
00:24:59,318 --> 00:25:01,318
Knowing the maps at the
time, this looks like
558
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,020
this might have happened either
on or near my client's property.
559
00:25:04,022 --> 00:25:05,622
Does that sound right to you?
560
00:25:05,624 --> 00:25:06,790
Absolutely.
561
00:25:06,792 --> 00:25:08,892
Either right next to it,
or on the property itself.
562
00:25:08,894 --> 00:25:11,194
And I know the Martin
family owned it at the time.
563
00:25:11,196 --> 00:25:13,230
Would they have at least been there,
564
00:25:13,232 --> 00:25:14,731
or been involved in this lynching?
565
00:25:14,733 --> 00:25:16,066
Absolutely.
566
00:25:16,068 --> 00:25:17,701
If they weren't a part of it,
I'm sure they knew about it.
567
00:25:17,703 --> 00:25:19,436
More than likely, just about everybody
568
00:25:19,438 --> 00:25:22,072
in Estill Springs was a part of this.
569
00:25:22,074 --> 00:25:24,774
Was anybody ever convicted
for this lynching?
570
00:25:24,776 --> 00:25:26,109
No.
571
00:25:26,111 --> 00:25:27,911
In fact, the members of the
mob took souvenirs of his body.
572
00:25:27,913 --> 00:25:30,347
They took his ears, they took a finger.
573
00:25:30,349 --> 00:25:32,082
- For what?
- They displayed him
574
00:25:32,084 --> 00:25:33,750
in the local store.
575
00:25:33,752 --> 00:25:36,853
That's pretty sick.
576
00:25:36,855 --> 00:25:41,157
My, uh, Achilles, uh, got chopped.
577
00:25:41,159 --> 00:25:43,360
Um, something happened back here,
578
00:25:43,362 --> 00:25:44,928
like I got cut.
579
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:47,297
So I'm gonna say there was,
like, an attack or some...
580
00:25:47,299 --> 00:25:49,899
something like this.
581
00:25:49,901 --> 00:25:53,770
See, and more I go back,
the more pain I'm feeling.
582
00:25:53,772 --> 00:25:55,538
Oh, my head hurts.
583
00:25:55,540 --> 00:25:57,340
Head hurts.
584
00:26:07,886 --> 00:26:10,920
I saw a lot of disturbing
activity on my walk.
585
00:26:10,922 --> 00:26:13,089
But the dead woman
attacking a living man
586
00:26:13,091 --> 00:26:15,158
had me the most concerned.
587
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,827
She had really long hair.
588
00:26:17,829 --> 00:26:21,765
And she was wearing a dress.
589
00:26:21,767 --> 00:26:25,001
She can punch people.
590
00:26:25,003 --> 00:26:28,004
And I'd like to show,
like, a living man.
591
00:26:28,006 --> 00:26:30,907
And have her, like,
punch him in the stomach.
592
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,613
Is this what you saw?
593
00:26:38,583 --> 00:26:40,450
Yes.
594
00:27:00,562 --> 00:27:03,463
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
595
00:27:03,465 --> 00:27:05,565
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
596
00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:08,334
and our clients for the first time.
597
00:27:08,336 --> 00:27:11,838
Amy, I'd like you to meet
Emily, her husband, Chris.
598
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,540
And this her sister, Abby,
599
00:27:13,542 --> 00:27:15,208
who recently moved into their home
600
00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:16,876
with her
4-year-old son.
601
00:27:16,878 --> 00:27:18,545
The main reason we were called in
602
00:27:18,547 --> 00:27:20,380
is for this beautiful, young boy here.
603
00:27:20,382 --> 00:27:21,948
This is Eli.
604
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:24,984
This is their son
605
00:27:24,986 --> 00:27:27,253
that they adopted from China last year.
606
00:27:27,255 --> 00:27:29,756
They wanted to give him a better life.
607
00:27:29,758 --> 00:27:31,658
But the activity's so bad in the house
608
00:27:31,660 --> 00:27:33,326
that Emily actually told me
609
00:27:33,328 --> 00:27:35,595
he'd probably be better
off back at that orphanage.
610
00:27:35,597 --> 00:27:38,298
It broke my heart when
she said that to me.
611
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:40,433
I'm really hoping that you
can give us some answers
612
00:27:40,435 --> 00:27:42,402
and, uh, help them out.
613
00:27:45,373 --> 00:27:49,142
This was one of the worst investigations
614
00:27:49,144 --> 00:27:50,977
I've ever done.
615
00:27:50,979 --> 00:27:54,247
And that's why we're
here in this barn tonight
616
00:27:54,249 --> 00:27:57,116
because there was no way in hell
617
00:27:57,118 --> 00:28:00,086
I was going back to your property.
618
00:28:00,088 --> 00:28:01,721
The first place
619
00:28:01,723 --> 00:28:05,725
that I got pulled to
was to the backyard.
620
00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:09,963
I walked over to the detached garage.
621
00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:13,833
And I had this overwhelming feeling
622
00:28:13,835 --> 00:28:17,370
of death and darkness in there.
623
00:28:17,372 --> 00:28:19,372
And it seemed like the ground
624
00:28:19,374 --> 00:28:22,141
was just kind of saturated with it.
625
00:28:22,143 --> 00:28:25,445
And I almost felt
like I was gonna vomit.
626
00:28:25,447 --> 00:28:27,447
Wow.
627
00:28:27,449 --> 00:28:30,717
There was some male.
628
00:28:30,719 --> 00:28:33,019
And I felt, like, a loss of control.
629
00:28:33,021 --> 00:28:36,356
And then I also felt like
something was around my neck.
630
00:28:36,358 --> 00:28:38,992
And I was being strangled.
631
00:28:38,994 --> 00:28:41,060
When I'm in the garage,
you get this feeling
632
00:28:41,062 --> 00:28:43,696
that somebody is kind of watching you.
633
00:28:43,698 --> 00:28:44,964
Now Chris is a skeptic.
634
00:28:44,966 --> 00:28:47,066
And he always tries to figure out
635
00:28:47,068 --> 00:28:48,768
that it's not paranormal.
636
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:51,538
I'm a see-it-to-believe-it
person.
637
00:28:51,540 --> 00:28:53,439
Now, before Chris and
Emily owned the house,
638
00:28:53,441 --> 00:28:56,910
it was owned by Robert
Dawson and his wife, Barbara.
639
00:28:56,912 --> 00:28:59,345
Um, I got a photo of that couple.
640
00:28:59,347 --> 00:29:01,781
Now, Barbara passed away from cancer
641
00:29:01,783 --> 00:29:04,751
in the master bedroom in 2007.
642
00:29:04,753 --> 00:29:06,185
Uh, she had been sick for a while.
643
00:29:06,187 --> 00:29:07,620
What was kind of funny
644
00:29:07,622 --> 00:29:09,589
is Robert, according to his two sons,
645
00:29:09,591 --> 00:29:11,724
who I interviewed, uh,
646
00:29:11,726 --> 00:29:13,660
didn't seem too broken up about it.
647
00:29:13,662 --> 00:29:15,828
Now, the guy was 82 at the time.
648
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:17,530
And a week after his wife died,
649
00:29:17,532 --> 00:29:20,833
he had two women in their
30s move in with him.
650
00:29:20,835 --> 00:29:24,337
Now, they took advantage of
him, they took all his money.
651
00:29:24,339 --> 00:29:27,574
Now, 2011, he was found
dead in that garage,
652
00:29:27,576 --> 00:29:29,108
according to the autopsy protocol
653
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:31,945
that I got right here.
654
00:29:31,947 --> 00:29:35,081
Official cause of death was
carbon monoxide poisoning.
655
00:29:35,083 --> 00:29:38,051
That makes sense to me,
that feeling of, like,
656
00:29:38,053 --> 00:29:41,287
darkness and despair and negativity.
657
00:29:41,289 --> 00:29:43,089
All that you feel in that garage
658
00:29:43,091 --> 00:29:46,292
that affects someone's personality?
659
00:29:46,294 --> 00:29:51,164
I think that a person
would feel weighted down,
660
00:29:51,166 --> 00:29:55,768
an agitation, tired, drained.
661
00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:57,804
I feel a lot of that,
662
00:29:57,806 --> 00:29:59,872
just not necessarily just the garage,
663
00:29:59,874 --> 00:30:01,341
but just being in...
664
00:30:01,343 --> 00:30:03,676
on the property, I guess you could say.
665
00:30:03,678 --> 00:30:07,180
When I leave, I actually
kind of feel better.
666
00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:11,784
STEVE: What else did you see?
667
00:30:11,786 --> 00:30:16,756
One of the more powerful dead people
668
00:30:16,758 --> 00:30:18,157
on your property
669
00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:20,360
is the dead woman who I met outside.
670
00:30:20,362 --> 00:30:23,496
And she was just
screaming and freaking out,
671
00:30:23,498 --> 00:30:25,798
charging me like a maniac.
672
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,001
I think the living
would possibly hear her
673
00:30:28,003 --> 00:30:32,205
when she's flipping out and
also see her as a shadow.
674
00:30:32,207 --> 00:30:35,108
The other thing I was
getting a lot with her
675
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:37,910
and about her is her
fixation on children.
676
00:30:37,912 --> 00:30:40,780
And she also made it very clear
677
00:30:40,782 --> 00:30:44,884
that she does not like living adults.
678
00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:48,921
The biggest concern with her
is that she can be very violent,
679
00:30:48,923 --> 00:30:51,557
and unfortunately, physical.
680
00:30:51,559 --> 00:30:54,293
I found that out because
when I was getting ready
681
00:30:54,295 --> 00:30:56,029
to go into the house,
682
00:30:56,031 --> 00:30:58,731
she freaking
683
00:30:58,733 --> 00:31:01,234
jumped me and punched
me square in the stomach.
684
00:31:01,236 --> 00:31:04,203
Um, you're hitting on a lot
685
00:31:04,205 --> 00:31:06,005
of the things these
guys are experiencing.
686
00:31:06,007 --> 00:31:09,042
First off, um, you say
she's fixated on kids?
687
00:31:09,044 --> 00:31:10,877
- Yeah.
- Emily, do me a favor
688
00:31:10,879 --> 00:31:14,814
and tell Amy what you
see over Eli's crib.
689
00:31:14,816 --> 00:31:17,950
EMILY: I saw a shadow
person, really tall.
690
00:31:17,952 --> 00:31:21,621
And it was just standing by
his bed looking down at him.
691
00:31:21,623 --> 00:31:23,222
He wakes up at night
692
00:31:23,224 --> 00:31:26,459
screaming and crying,
saying, "Scare me. Scare me."
693
00:31:26,461 --> 00:31:27,660
Tell Amy
694
00:31:27,662 --> 00:31:29,896
about the other shadow
figures you see, as well.
695
00:31:29,898 --> 00:31:32,165
I see 'em around my bed all the time.
696
00:31:32,167 --> 00:31:34,200
Couple times a week,
I wake up in the night
697
00:31:34,202 --> 00:31:35,702
seeing stuff.
698
00:31:35,704 --> 00:31:38,738
Do you ever hear any sounds or
anything while it's going on?
699
00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:40,306
A lot of the times, I'll be home alone,
700
00:31:40,308 --> 00:31:42,108
sitting there watching TV.
701
00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:44,243
And, you know, I'll hear
stuff throughout the house.
702
00:31:44,245 --> 00:31:46,679
And I just think it's
the dog or a cat or...
703
00:31:46,681 --> 00:31:48,247
- Mm-hmm -
Something.
704
00:31:48,249 --> 00:31:50,149
Now, is that this woman doing all this?
705
00:31:50,151 --> 00:31:54,220
It could be her. I
mean, she's got issues.
706
00:31:54,222 --> 00:31:59,025
The person that she said
she really dislikes the most,
707
00:31:59,027 --> 00:32:00,793
as far as living people in the house,
708
00:32:00,795 --> 00:32:03,830
is the male in the house.
709
00:32:03,832 --> 00:32:06,299
And she really has it out for him.
710
00:32:06,301 --> 00:32:10,069
And I had a sketch done
711
00:32:10,071 --> 00:32:13,439
of what she would like to do to him.
712
00:32:25,053 --> 00:32:27,954
This is what this person
wants to do to you, apparently.
713
00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:37,196
So she just wants to take me out?
714
00:32:37,198 --> 00:32:39,165
Yeah.
715
00:32:39,167 --> 00:32:41,868
Can she?
716
00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:44,036
Yes.
717
00:32:44,038 --> 00:32:45,972
Chris, did you think
tonight you'd be a target
718
00:32:45,974 --> 00:32:47,373
when we sat down?
719
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:49,842
I didn't think I really
had much to do with it
720
00:32:49,844 --> 00:32:51,344
at all, to be honest with you.
721
00:32:51,346 --> 00:32:54,580
I'm here to help her.
I'm here to support her.
722
00:32:54,582 --> 00:32:57,550
Looks like you may need the support.
723
00:32:57,552 --> 00:33:00,586
Kind of looking that way.
724
00:33:00,588 --> 00:33:03,189
You have any idea who
this crazy, old bat is?
725
00:33:03,191 --> 00:33:08,928
The few things that I was
able to extract from her were
726
00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:11,364
she can look a couple of different ways.
727
00:33:11,366 --> 00:33:13,499
When she showed herself
as being younger,
728
00:33:13,501 --> 00:33:15,101
it looked like she could be from, like,
729
00:33:15,103 --> 00:33:17,203
1870 to 1920.
730
00:33:17,205 --> 00:33:21,974
But then, when she
showed me herself older,
731
00:33:21,976 --> 00:33:25,111
it seemed extremely current.
732
00:33:25,113 --> 00:33:27,480
She was obsessed with her father.
733
00:33:27,482 --> 00:33:29,849
And she kept saying that
her father was a good man
734
00:33:29,851 --> 00:33:33,152
and her whole family had gotten screwed.
735
00:33:33,154 --> 00:33:37,256
The other thing that I got was
the connection with children,
736
00:33:37,258 --> 00:33:39,992
and that kids were
extremely important to her
737
00:33:39,994 --> 00:33:41,761
when she was alive.
738
00:33:41,763 --> 00:33:44,897
And they're still
important to her in death.
739
00:33:44,899 --> 00:33:48,267
Even though she may be scaring children,
740
00:33:48,269 --> 00:33:52,705
she's actually trying to protect them.
741
00:33:52,707 --> 00:33:55,541
So I'm just going off
the dates you gave me.
742
00:33:55,543 --> 00:33:57,443
There are a couple of women
who lived on the property
743
00:33:57,445 --> 00:33:59,345
that might fit the bill.
744
00:33:59,347 --> 00:34:00,980
Now, back in the late 1800s,
745
00:34:00,982 --> 00:34:04,150
this house sat in the
middle of a 560-acre farm.
746
00:34:04,152 --> 00:34:07,353
The guy who owned it was
named John Graves Martin.
747
00:34:07,355 --> 00:34:08,988
Well, he had seven
children. Out of the seven,
748
00:34:08,990 --> 00:34:12,491
four died at a very young age.
749
00:34:12,493 --> 00:34:15,995
Three of his kids survived,
and two of them were daughters.
750
00:34:15,997 --> 00:34:17,663
The one that makes the most sense,
751
00:34:17,665 --> 00:34:19,632
based on what you told
me, is Edna Martin.
752
00:34:19,634 --> 00:34:22,902
Now, she was born in
1895, grew up on the land.
753
00:34:22,904 --> 00:34:24,804
And she died in 1986.
754
00:34:24,806 --> 00:34:26,772
The other thing is you mentioned
755
00:34:26,774 --> 00:34:29,342
her being protective of the father.
756
00:34:29,344 --> 00:34:31,944
John Graves Martin built a
cemetery right on the property.
757
00:34:31,946 --> 00:34:33,512
But when he sold it to the city,
758
00:34:33,514 --> 00:34:36,883
he said it had to be for whites only.
759
00:34:36,885 --> 00:34:38,818
To me, it feels like Edna.
760
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:41,387
Like, looking back at this whole thing,
761
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:44,757
I almost feel like the
punch in the stomach was...
762
00:34:44,759 --> 00:34:46,893
was a second warning.
763
00:34:46,895 --> 00:34:49,028
Warning for what?
764
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:51,631
To [bleep] leave.
765
00:34:54,502 --> 00:34:56,636
When I walked through the door,
766
00:34:56,638 --> 00:34:59,272
I'm hearing this, like, growling.
767
00:34:59,274 --> 00:35:02,141
And it just sounded like
what you would imagine, like,
768
00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:06,946
a demon voice to sound like.
769
00:35:06,948 --> 00:35:10,249
The other thing was how
it was projecting itself.
770
00:35:10,251 --> 00:35:12,118
And what it looked like was,
771
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,788
like, it had these long arms.
772
00:35:15,790 --> 00:35:18,991
And then it had, like,
this human, deformed head.
773
00:35:18,993 --> 00:35:22,094
My sister's daughter,
774
00:35:22,096 --> 00:35:28,100
she woke up to a black,
hooded figure with red eyes.
775
00:35:28,102 --> 00:35:31,871
Abby's son had a dream just like that.
776
00:35:31,873 --> 00:35:34,040
ABBY: He said that there was a bunch of
777
00:35:34,042 --> 00:35:36,509
vampire-type people standing
in a group with capes.
778
00:35:36,511 --> 00:35:38,177
And they kept just staring at him.
779
00:35:38,179 --> 00:35:39,745
And he woke up.
780
00:35:39,747 --> 00:35:42,848
So is this something that
Chris' niece might have seen?
781
00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:45,818
Yes.
782
00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:47,620
It took me a while to figure out,
783
00:35:47,622 --> 00:35:49,288
but then it finally hit me.
784
00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:51,023
This thing is not a demon.
785
00:35:51,025 --> 00:35:54,560
It's dead Native Americans
who are mentally ill.
786
00:35:54,562 --> 00:35:56,095
And they are projecting themselves
787
00:35:56,097 --> 00:35:58,064
as a demon to scare you.
788
00:36:00,468 --> 00:36:02,735
They can focus in on people's weaknesses
789
00:36:02,737 --> 00:36:05,438
very quickly and easily.
790
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,007
And so someone has a predisposition
791
00:36:08,009 --> 00:36:11,177
to being depressed, anxious, angry,
792
00:36:11,179 --> 00:36:14,780
they will draw that out
and amplify it tenfold.
793
00:36:14,782 --> 00:36:16,282
I woke up in the middle of the night,
794
00:36:16,284 --> 00:36:19,418
just that bad, heavy chest feeling.
795
00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:20,987
Can't breathe.
796
00:36:20,989 --> 00:36:23,089
And I constantly...
It seems to be actually
797
00:36:23,091 --> 00:36:24,824
getting worse over the
past couple of weeks.
798
00:36:24,826 --> 00:36:28,060
Yeah, like, I can't even
get out of bed some days.
799
00:36:28,062 --> 00:36:31,397
We aggravate each
other, and it's nonstop.
800
00:36:33,167 --> 00:36:34,800
What... What the hell do they want?
801
00:36:34,802 --> 00:36:37,370
You know, they definitely
keyed in on, you know,
802
00:36:37,372 --> 00:36:39,839
the male of the house.
803
00:36:39,841 --> 00:36:43,676
I saw this thing form
attachments to this male.
804
00:36:43,678 --> 00:36:47,546
And they've already
attached themselves to you.
805
00:36:47,548 --> 00:36:49,448
Whoa.
806
00:36:49,450 --> 00:36:52,618
Slight things could be
headaches, sleeplessness.
807
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:55,354
Uh, there might be some
sleepwalking incidents.
808
00:36:55,356 --> 00:36:58,357
I'm a sleepwalker.
809
00:36:58,359 --> 00:37:00,960
Other people might see the behaviors
810
00:37:00,962 --> 00:37:04,563
more than the individual
who's being directly affected.
811
00:37:04,565 --> 00:37:06,899
And things that they
would notice might be
812
00:37:06,901 --> 00:37:09,068
abnormal aggressive behavior
that doesn't make sense
813
00:37:09,070 --> 00:37:10,870
for that individual.
814
00:37:10,872 --> 00:37:13,205
Yeah. I mean, he's a different person.
815
00:37:13,207 --> 00:37:15,408
- The snapping, real...
- Yeah.
816
00:37:15,410 --> 00:37:17,109
You know, just snaps real quick.
817
00:37:17,111 --> 00:37:19,111
He never used to do that, ever.
818
00:37:19,113 --> 00:37:22,782
The problem is is that
this attachment obviously
819
00:37:22,784 --> 00:37:25,551
can be extremely dangerous.
820
00:37:25,553 --> 00:37:29,088
And the thing that I did get, um,
821
00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:32,591
was that their ultimate goal would be
822
00:37:32,593 --> 00:37:37,296
for this individual to harm
and/or kill the entire family.
823
00:37:41,269 --> 00:37:42,968
STEVE: All right. So
let me get this straight.
824
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:44,737
You're saying that whatever's there
825
00:37:44,739 --> 00:37:47,573
is trying to influence
him to kill his family?
826
00:37:47,575 --> 00:37:49,308
Absolutely.
827
00:37:51,946 --> 00:37:55,214
I'm extremely frightened
for you and your family.
828
00:38:11,157 --> 00:38:13,091
STEVE: So, Chris, I got to be honest.
829
00:38:13,093 --> 00:38:16,527
You had so few experiences
and seemed like such a skeptic,
830
00:38:16,529 --> 00:38:19,230
I almost thought about
leaving you out of the review.
831
00:38:19,232 --> 00:38:21,232
But now we have to figure out
832
00:38:21,234 --> 00:38:24,235
how to save not only you,
833
00:38:24,237 --> 00:38:26,437
but your beautiful family.
834
00:38:26,439 --> 00:38:28,773
Uh, for that answer, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
835
00:38:31,711 --> 00:38:34,078
So there's a deceased female
836
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,316
at the location who might be Edna,
837
00:38:38,318 --> 00:38:40,985
who is unstable.
838
00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:43,688
And she's coming after
you because she's afraid
839
00:38:43,690 --> 00:38:46,491
you're going to hurt the kids.
840
00:38:46,493 --> 00:38:51,696
And then you have the
unstable Native Americans
841
00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:53,965
who are targeting your family
842
00:38:53,967 --> 00:38:57,001
to, essentially, be exterminated.
843
00:39:00,173 --> 00:39:03,474
Here are the things that can be done.
844
00:39:03,476 --> 00:39:07,812
The first thing is the
garage needs to be cleansed.
845
00:39:07,814 --> 00:39:11,716
That should remove all of that residual
846
00:39:11,718 --> 00:39:13,885
negative darkness that,
847
00:39:13,887 --> 00:39:19,123
unfortunately, is surrounding
the male's demise there.
848
00:39:19,125 --> 00:39:22,060
After that, I want her gone.
849
00:39:22,062 --> 00:39:24,429
So what I would like to see with her
850
00:39:24,431 --> 00:39:27,265
would be a male medium brought in
851
00:39:27,267 --> 00:39:31,936
who has a very authoritative
kind of presence.
852
00:39:31,938 --> 00:39:35,273
And that individual should
come and move her on.
853
00:39:35,275 --> 00:39:36,974
This might take a couple of visits
854
00:39:36,976 --> 00:39:40,378
just because she is wicked.
855
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:43,247
Now, with the Native Americans,
856
00:39:43,249 --> 00:39:46,084
a team of people need to come in.
857
00:39:46,086 --> 00:39:50,154
You need a Cherokee Native
American medicine person
858
00:39:50,156 --> 00:39:54,125
or shaman who needs
to perform a clearing
859
00:39:54,127 --> 00:39:56,461
and removal ritual.
860
00:39:56,463 --> 00:39:58,763
At the same time, a religious person,
861
00:39:58,765 --> 00:40:00,164
such as a priest,
862
00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:02,567
needs to be brought in
who performs an exorcism
863
00:40:02,569 --> 00:40:05,436
of the land...
864
00:40:05,438 --> 00:40:08,039
the house, and of you.
865
00:40:10,176 --> 00:40:14,045
Once all of this has been done,
you will know within the week
866
00:40:14,047 --> 00:40:17,215
if it has been successful or not.
867
00:40:17,217 --> 00:40:19,917
If we do all this stuff,
and it doesn't work...
868
00:40:19,919 --> 00:40:22,186
You just get the [bleep] in your car,
869
00:40:22,188 --> 00:40:24,188
and you leave.
870
00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:27,525
I don't want to go home.
871
00:40:27,527 --> 00:40:32,163
I'm just really nervous,
anxious, worried.
872
00:40:32,165 --> 00:40:33,564
I'm scared.
873
00:40:33,566 --> 00:40:36,033
I mean, I knew it was bad.
874
00:40:36,035 --> 00:40:38,769
I just didn't think
it was to that extreme.
875
00:40:38,771 --> 00:40:40,738
So what would happen if we didn't do
876
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:42,607
any of that stuff you said? We just...
877
00:40:42,609 --> 00:40:44,108
You would end up killing your family.
878
00:40:47,514 --> 00:40:49,680
You gonna do this exorcism thing?
879
00:40:49,682 --> 00:40:51,782
Or you gonna say BS on it?
880
00:40:51,784 --> 00:40:54,519
I'm willing to try.
881
00:40:54,521 --> 00:40:55,987
Well, no, no. It's not "willing to try."
882
00:40:55,989 --> 00:40:57,421
You're either gonna
do it, or you're not.
883
00:40:57,423 --> 00:40:58,856
There's no in between here.
884
00:40:58,858 --> 00:41:00,691
I mean, if it'll make me feel better.
885
00:41:00,693 --> 00:41:02,360
It's not a matter of feeling better.
886
00:41:02,362 --> 00:41:04,362
She's telling you, "If
you don't get this done,
887
00:41:04,364 --> 00:41:06,864
you're gonna do harm
to your own family."
888
00:41:06,866 --> 00:41:09,634
So, Chris, you gonna
have this exorcism done?
889
00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:11,669
- Yeah.
- Okay.
890
00:41:11,671 --> 00:41:14,705
Well, do I have to even ask you
if you're gonna do this stuff?
891
00:41:14,707 --> 00:41:16,641
I'm definitely doing it.
892
00:41:16,643 --> 00:41:18,176
I'll do whatever it takes.
893
00:41:18,178 --> 00:41:21,812
It's crazy to me to think...
894
00:41:21,814 --> 00:41:24,282
that this is happening to me.
895
00:41:24,284 --> 00:41:25,983
It's just hard to say, "No,"
896
00:41:25,985 --> 00:41:28,186
when everything you said is so right.
897
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:33,524
AMY: The only way Chris can
save himself and his family
898
00:41:33,526 --> 00:41:36,594
is to bring in a priest
to perform an exorcism.
899
00:41:36,596 --> 00:41:39,630
If that works, a medium
and a team of shaman
900
00:41:39,632 --> 00:41:41,598
can clear out the rest of the dead,
901
00:41:41,623 --> 00:41:45,359
and his family will finally be
able to live a peaceful life.
902
00:41:45,409 --> 00:41:49,959
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