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There's all kinds of
[bleep] going on out here.
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I'm terrified to be in my own home.
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There is a man with a
double-barreled shotgun,
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lots of violence.
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STEVE: Why were you
willing to talk to me?
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You were a suspect.
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AMY: I think she was murdered.
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This property was soaked with blood.
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I just hear death.
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Yeah. We're not supposed to be here.
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There's a dark presence.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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These things, they're freaking out.
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They're from hell.
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I see dead people.
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They were being hunted.
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I speak to dead people.
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They were setting people
on fire, burning them alive.
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And they speak to me.
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Her neck got broken.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I hear a gunshot.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Something's not right here.
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And I know every person,
every house, has secrets.
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- It's not safe here.
- It's my job to reveal them.
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Are any of them buried on the property?
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They're all buried here.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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- Until the very end...
- I can't do it no more.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Holy [bleep]. Look at this.
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Or time to get out.
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It does not have a happy ending.
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Something kills people here.
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STEVE: I'm out here in the small
town of Concrete, Washington.
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It's about 2 hours north of Seattle.
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I got a call from a lady
who sounded hysterical.
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She was crying on the phone,
saying whatever's in the house
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is destroying her health,
ruining her marriage
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and making her feel like
she's losing her mind.
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She doesn't know where to turn,
and we're her very last hope.
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Before Amy arrives, I clear the area
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of anything that could
influence her findings.
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This home is filled with family photos,
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so it's important that I
cover or remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: There's definitely
something strange
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down the street.
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What the [bleep]?
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There's, like, a, um,
energy field or something.
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I think somebody put this
up, put this barrier up.
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I don't know how [bleep]
big this thing is.
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You know, there was,
like, a lot of violence,
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lots of violence, lots of violence.
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There's all kinds of
[bleep] going on out here.
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STEVE: Now, Melissa, when
we spoke on the phone,
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you were almost in hysterics.
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I'm terrified to be in my own home.
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It's like living in a nightmare.
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Do me a favor and just
start from the beginning.
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- When'd you get here?
- Um, we came in 2006.
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My husband was transferred
up here with the military.
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- Okay.
- We found the land,
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and we had the home built.
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- All right. So the house is new.
- Yes.
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Okay. Do you know anything
about the history of the land
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that the house sits on?
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I know there was a woman next door.
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I know she had her throat slit.
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Wow. So I'll look into that.
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That's pretty interesting.
This is a big house.
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Who exactly lives here with you?
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This is a picture of, uh, my family.
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This is my husband,
Brandon, and my son, Taylor.
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He's 20.
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Up until about 2 months
ago, he lived here.
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So what exactly is
happening? What's going on?
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Sounds, uh, banging,
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shadow figures,
apparitions, being touched.
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It's getting worse and worse and worse.
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Did you hear that?
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No.
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It went right by my ear,
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like "Shh," telling me to be quiet.
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Well, you're not gonna be quiet.
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So whatever's here can go to hell.
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All right? All right?
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I'm here with you now.
Nothing's gonna happen.
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Take a deep breath
'cause you're shaking.
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Come on, with me. Ready?
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- Okay.
- I trust you.
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Okay. Good.
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Nothing in this house is gonna
stop me from doing my job.
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See? You feel like you're going crazy
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'cause other people don't hear it.
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And then, they go,
"Oh, she's just nuts."
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I'm not saying that, am I?
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- Okay?
- Okay.
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Hmm?
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All right.
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AMY: There's, like, a
lot of people talking.
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I heard voices in the dark.
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And they're yelling and
screaming about this wave
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of illness.
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There are so many people.
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I don't know who these damn people
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are in the [bleep] darkness.
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They seem to be in this
area of containment.
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I'm wondering if they
hear people around.
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You know, if they hear
people around their house,
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they've gotta be hearing people talking.
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They've gotta be hearing conversations.
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It's pretty [bleep] bad.
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Too much going on.
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STEVE: You said that you
think whatever's going on here
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is affecting the marriage.
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We used to be really strong.
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It seems whatever force is
here is trying to divide us.
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My health, um, is rapidly declining.
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I have bad osteoporosis.
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I see a specialist for my throat.
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They say I have vocal cord dysfunction.
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But actually, I feel like I've
been choked by what's ever here.
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Did you have any of these
symptoms prior to moving here?
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No.
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I was healthy.
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I think it's trying to kill me.
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Okay.
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AMY: These dead people in
the dark, they're so sick.
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The living are feeling some
of these physical symptoms.
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Oh, I don't feel good.
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[Bleep] Really bad, really bad.
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This is fear.
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This is fear, like,
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uh, you're so afraid. You're so afraid.
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You're so afraid that you,
like, you know, you get sick.
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You're [bleep] sick.
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Terrified. [Bleep] terrified.
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Terrified.
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STEVE: Okay. What's going on?
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Hearing voices, multiple.
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Is it male, female?
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Two females arguing, really mad.
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What about the TV being
on? Anything like that?
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No. Everything was shut off.
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All right. So you're hearing voices.
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What else is going on?
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Had a woman sit on the
bed and try to touch me.
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Okay. Can you describe her for me?
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She had long hair. It
was like a skeleton face.
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Okay. So this is something
that was meant to scare you.
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Yeah. She sat down on the bed,
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and she reached out for me.
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She said, "You're gonna die."
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Relax. Just hold my hand. Relax.
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AMY: I'm hearing a woman outside.
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I think she was murdered.
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There's a man, uh, with a, uh,
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double-barrel shotgun.
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And then, there's these two guys.
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They're like... They're bullies.
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And they don't wanna talk
about the... the lady at all.
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I don't know what's going on here.
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This dead woman, who crawls all around,
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I see her crawling into bed.
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She does, uh, wrap herself around,
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uh, this living, uh, woman, I believe.
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And it's not good for a living person.
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Why?
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The living person is taking
on that dead person's energy.
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So they can start acting
like the dead person.
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They'll take on
mannerisms, speech patterns.
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And then, that makes the
living person [bleep] sick.
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Has anything else happened?
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I was taking a bath 2 nights ago.
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Got out of the bathtub,
felt burning on my leg.
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- Okay.
- I looked down.
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And I had scratches.
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They were deep.
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It hurt.
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Wow.
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I gotta say, this is probably
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one of the more severe
cases we've worked on.
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Just make it go away and
make it stop hurting me.
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I will. We're gonna take care of it.
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- Okay.
- It's okay.
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I know.
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AMY: The two bullies,
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I think that they are around
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when the chick strays.
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They have to get her back
because she belongs to them.
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But the living go through something
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when they [bleep] retrieve her.
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What happens to them?
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I think the living person
would feel potentially like,
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you know, they're being
grabbed or touched.
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They feel the anger.
They feel the pressure.
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They feel like all of this
is happening around them.
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STEVE: Okay. So I
understand you're a vet.
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I am. I spent, uh, all of 2004
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in Fallujah, Iraq, with the Marines.
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I was talking to your wife.
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And, uh, she got real upset.
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She thinks that whatever's
here is trying to kill her.
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I can't say it's not.
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'Kay. So what about yourself?
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- Any experiences in the house?
- Yeah.
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Okay. So tell me about them.
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I would get this neck pain.
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It felt like someone had me,
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but with a rope around my neck,
was pulling me up in the air.
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I couldn't breathe, and I
could start tasting blood,
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undeniable taste of blood.
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And I've tasted blood in my
mouth a lot over my lifetime.
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How long did it last?
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That experience can last
anywhere from 5 to 10 minutes.
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It's happened multiple
times, Steve, multiple times.
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- [Bleep].
- Yeah.
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- So anything else?
- Yeah.
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Uh, I was sitting there, watching TV,
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and felt something weird.
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Just looked up and
looked out the window.
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And when I looked out the window,
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at that second pane up on
that window right there,
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was a child's face looking in at me.
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Now, when you saw the face,
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did you think it mighta been
some kid in the neighborhood
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and go out and check.
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Um, we don't have any neighborhood kids.
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You think you're losing your mind.
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You do. You think you're
absolutely going crazy.
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Okay. I'm afraid to even ask
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what other experiences you've had.
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- But, uh...
- My wife and son had gone out,
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and I was sitting here on the couch.
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And everything was fine.
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When I looked up, there
was a black... [bleep].
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There was a black shadow
thing standing right here
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in front of the TV, clear as
you are right now in front of me.
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I looked right at this thing,
and I couldn't see through it.
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And it scared me so
bad that I... I gasped,
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and I leaned back in the chair,
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and I looked down.
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When I looked back up, it was gone.
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You all right?
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Sounds crazy, dunnit?
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Your job to protect... How
do you protect something
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you can't protect against?
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AMY: I'm seeing this other guy.
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He's a weirdo.
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And when I first saw him,
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he looked like a shadow crawling
up the wall, onto the ceiling.
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And then he shows me his face.
259
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He just says he's the manager.
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I oversee the operations.
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He likes the ceilings.
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He's all about the ceilings.
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They could see him as,
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like, a translucent male
or if they see, like,
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just a little shadow that
moves on the ceilings.
266
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He likes to feel like
he's on top of people.
267
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He's always watching everybody.
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He's gotta know everything
at all [bleep] times.
269
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So, Tamee, I understand that
you used to live next door here.
270
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- Yes.
- All right.
271
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Lived 140 yards from here.
272
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Okay. When did you move?
273
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- Two years ago.
- Okay. Why?
274
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I had a lot of experiences in the house
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- that I couldn't explain.
- Okay.
276
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Can you tell me some
experiences you had?
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Um, one of the things that,
278
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um, really made me
fearful for my life, um,
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and my children...
280
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I would get so sick.
281
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So what kind of illnesses
are we talking about?
282
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I would get horrendous
stomach pains often.
283
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- Okay.
- I couldn't stop throwing up.
284
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I hardly could breathe.
285
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And since I've moved,
286
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I have not had any stomach problems.
287
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Listened to Melissa today
288
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and what she had to say
about her health issues.
289
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A lot of it sounds similar
to some of the stuff
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she's going through.
291
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Everybody's health is failing
around here, everybody.
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Interesting.
293
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Did anything else happen?
294
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It seemed our moods and
attitudes were affected.
295
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We were very, very angry.
296
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And we're not angry people.
297
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Did you ever bring any,
uh, priest or preachers
298
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into the house to bless
it or anything like that?
299
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I did talk to the local tribes.
300
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I was told that this used
to be Native American land
301
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before white people settled here,
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that it was soaked with blood and people
303
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shouldn't live on this property.
304
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AMY: Well, I don't like it out here.
305
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Hm-mm.
306
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I just hear death.
307
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I think that,
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if you come here, you're tainted.
309
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How would being here affect the living?
310
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It would seem like it could
potentially drive people insane.
311
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I don't think it's a good
place for anything alive.
312
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And I'm kind of freaked out.
313
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What I'm getting is that, if
you enter this space, you're...
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you're kind of, like, doomed.
315
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Melissa mentioned someone got murdered
316
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on the original property line.
317
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So I made some calls,
and the story checks out.
318
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Only thing is, the cops won't
talk to me about it 'cause
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it's still an open case.
320
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So I'm heading over to
meet with a local historian
321
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who's looking through the original case
322
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files for me to tell me
exactly what happened.
323
00:16:02,071 --> 00:16:03,574
What do we know about the victim?
324
00:16:03,674 --> 00:16:06,541
- The victim was Vicki Silves.
- Okay.
325
00:16:06,543 --> 00:16:09,375
Vicki was an accountant
at a local company.
326
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She was actually married to a gentleman
327
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by the name of John Silves.
328
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,749
And here's actually a couple
of their wedding photos.
329
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Do we have any idea
when they got married?
330
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1993.
331
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They moved to Concrete in 1996.
332
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And shortly after
coming to Concrete, uh,
333
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their marriage starts to fall apart.
334
00:16:28,398 --> 00:16:31,464
And then, John ended
up moving back to, uh,
335
00:16:31,466 --> 00:16:33,733
Port Angeles, where
he worked as a trucker.
336
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How's the murder take
place? What happened?
337
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The morning of December 8, 1997,
338
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she had been known to
be very prompt to work,
339
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and she didn't show up.
340
00:16:44,551 --> 00:16:48,153
So the manager for the
company became very concerned
341
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and sent a, uh, coworker
over to check on her,
342
00:16:52,126 --> 00:16:55,793
where he found her dead in
her gravel driveway and...
343
00:16:55,795 --> 00:16:57,895
and then covered her with a blanket.
344
00:16:57,897 --> 00:17:00,196
- Uh, the first attempt...
- Whoa, whoa.
345
00:17:00,198 --> 00:17:02,166
The coworker covered her with a blanket?
346
00:17:02,168 --> 00:17:03,398
- Correct.
- All right.
347
00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,133
So he contaminated the
crime scene right away.
348
00:17:05,135 --> 00:17:07,168
He did.
349
00:17:07,170 --> 00:17:10,104
I have her, uh, death certificate here
350
00:17:10,106 --> 00:17:13,841
that describes her cause of
death of acute exsanguination.
351
00:17:13,843 --> 00:17:16,008
So she's stabbed in the
neck. She bleeds out.
352
00:17:16,010 --> 00:17:18,811
Yes. I was able to
get the first 40 pages
353
00:17:18,813 --> 00:17:22,748
of the police report on the murder.
354
00:17:22,977 --> 00:17:26,578
What it described was, there
was no sign of forcible entry.
355
00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:28,912
The door was opened about 6 to 8 inches.
356
00:17:28,914 --> 00:17:30,914
- All right.
- All the lights were on.
357
00:17:30,916 --> 00:17:33,281
The interesting thing was
that she was laying there
358
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with a large pool of blood,
but her shoes were 20 feet away.
359
00:17:36,855 --> 00:17:38,986
All right. So, Eric,
there's a lot of stuff here.
360
00:17:38,988 --> 00:17:41,889
But do you know when the
last time she was seen alive?
361
00:17:41,891 --> 00:17:44,959
Yes. Vicki was seen alive at a party.
362
00:17:44,961 --> 00:17:48,662
There were 4 people that were
at that party besides Vicki.
363
00:17:48,664 --> 00:17:51,898
Uh, two actually would
become important to this case.
364
00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:55,768
We have Ray Valeton and a Richard Brink.
365
00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:58,537
Vicki had gotten fairly drunk,
366
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and Mr. Brink says that
he would take her home.
367
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,274
According to him, when they get there,
368
00:18:04,276 --> 00:18:07,042
they did a little more drinking.
369
00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:10,346
And according to him,
they'd be kissing one minute,
370
00:18:10,348 --> 00:18:12,847
and then she'd be
cursing at him the next.
371
00:18:12,849 --> 00:18:17,218
He apparently got uncomfortable
with this and left the house
372
00:18:17,220 --> 00:18:18,855
about 1:15 in the morning.
373
00:18:18,855 --> 00:18:21,322
He's putting himself at the crime scene.
374
00:18:21,324 --> 00:18:22,789
So what happens next?
375
00:18:22,791 --> 00:18:25,084
So the other guy in
the party, Ray Valeton,
376
00:18:25,184 --> 00:18:28,651
he is the alibi for... for Mr. Brink.
377
00:18:28,653 --> 00:18:30,019
He says he just happens to know
378
00:18:30,021 --> 00:18:32,788
that Mr. Brink came home
at 1:30 in the morning.
379
00:18:32,790 --> 00:18:35,088
All right. That's not much of an alibi.
380
00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:37,692
I would have to say
that you're not mistaken.
381
00:18:37,694 --> 00:18:39,593
Okay. Now, what about the ex-husband?
382
00:18:39,595 --> 00:18:41,060
So the ex-husband,
383
00:18:41,062 --> 00:18:43,387
John, uh, actually did
have a really good alibi.
384
00:18:43,487 --> 00:18:46,656
He had been in Port
Angeles when this happened.
385
00:18:46,658 --> 00:18:49,425
Plus, he took a
polygraph test and passed.
386
00:18:49,427 --> 00:18:51,226
Okay. So was anybody arrested
387
00:18:51,228 --> 00:18:53,528
and brought to the
grand jury on this case?
388
00:18:53,530 --> 00:18:56,664
Nobody was ever
arrested for this murder.
389
00:18:56,666 --> 00:18:59,098
Wow. And this is still
an open case today?
390
00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:01,400
It's an unsolved case today, still open.
391
00:19:01,402 --> 00:19:03,734
As far as I know, there
is nobody working the case.
392
00:19:03,736 --> 00:19:05,170
That's a shame.
393
00:19:08,441 --> 00:19:12,043
AMY: Try to get more on the bed lady.
394
00:19:12,045 --> 00:19:15,712
She's so [bleep] confused
395
00:19:15,714 --> 00:19:17,648
about how she died.
396
00:19:17,650 --> 00:19:19,349
Do you have any idea when this was?
397
00:19:19,351 --> 00:19:21,450
It doesn't feel like that long ago.
398
00:19:21,452 --> 00:19:24,486
Even the guys, like,
they don't feel that old.
399
00:19:24,488 --> 00:19:26,654
And she died horribly.
400
00:19:26,656 --> 00:19:31,226
The assault is outside, raining, dark.
401
00:19:31,228 --> 00:19:32,694
She was [bleep] blindsided.
402
00:19:32,696 --> 00:19:34,428
Up until, really, the [bleep] end,
403
00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:36,662
she was just like, "What the [bleep]?"
404
00:19:36,664 --> 00:19:38,397
There's pain, mm,
405
00:19:38,399 --> 00:19:42,435
to the left eye, uh, very sharp...
406
00:19:44,738 --> 00:19:47,142
and then to the head and neck area.
407
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,212
I can't breathe. What's happening?
408
00:19:49,214 --> 00:19:52,316
Like, it's like she's
not registering anything.
409
00:19:55,886 --> 00:19:58,119
So I actually managed to track down
410
00:19:58,121 --> 00:19:59,989
the victim's estranged husband.
411
00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:01,623
And I've gotta be honest,
I was surprised that he
412
00:20:01,625 --> 00:20:05,242
was not only willing but excited
to talk to me about the case.
413
00:20:05,756 --> 00:20:07,756
So I'm meeting him
back at the crime scene,
414
00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:10,024
where he wants to tell me what
he thinks happened the night
415
00:20:10,026 --> 00:20:11,526
his wife was murdered.
416
00:20:16,431 --> 00:20:18,397
So, John, thanks for taking
the time to meet with me.
417
00:20:18,399 --> 00:20:20,599
I know this is a pretty touchy subject.
418
00:20:20,601 --> 00:20:23,567
Your wife was murdered right here,
419
00:20:23,569 --> 00:20:26,137
- in this building back here.
- Yes.
420
00:20:26,139 --> 00:20:27,804
Why were you willing to talk to me?
421
00:20:27,806 --> 00:20:29,104
You were a suspect.
422
00:20:29,106 --> 00:20:31,373
This is 18 years ago.
423
00:20:31,375 --> 00:20:33,342
And this is a cold
case. And nobody's on it.
424
00:20:33,344 --> 00:20:34,677
Nobody's doing anything about it.
425
00:20:34,679 --> 00:20:36,411
And maybe somebody knows something.
426
00:20:36,413 --> 00:20:38,947
So let's get on it. Let's
keep this case going.
427
00:20:38,949 --> 00:20:40,547
Okay. Now, what kind of woman was she?
428
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:42,083
She was really outgoing.
429
00:20:42,085 --> 00:20:44,051
But Vicki had a jealousy issue.
430
00:20:44,053 --> 00:20:47,554
She accused me of
stuff that I never did.
431
00:20:47,556 --> 00:20:49,788
I said, "That's it."
I said, "Baby," I says,
432
00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:52,391
"I'm outta here." I says, "I'm gone."
433
00:20:52,393 --> 00:20:54,125
Okay. She gets murdered.
434
00:20:54,127 --> 00:20:55,694
How do you get notified?
435
00:20:55,696 --> 00:20:57,062
I was in bed.
436
00:20:57,064 --> 00:21:00,564
And, um, there was people
beating on the side of my house.
437
00:21:00,566 --> 00:21:02,217
And I got up, went to
the door and opened it,
438
00:21:02,317 --> 00:21:04,851
and here's a guy standing there with
439
00:21:04,853 --> 00:21:08,053
a Skagit County Sheriff's
Department jacket on.
440
00:21:08,055 --> 00:21:09,654
Before the night was over,
441
00:21:09,656 --> 00:21:14,359
he had told me how much easier
it would be if I just confessed.
442
00:21:14,361 --> 00:21:18,428
I said, "Confess to something I
never had anything to do with?"
443
00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:21,463
So, John, exactly what was your alibi?
444
00:21:21,465 --> 00:21:25,334
They found a receipt showing
that I was 150 miles away
445
00:21:25,336 --> 00:21:26,669
the night of the murder.
446
00:21:26,671 --> 00:21:27,968
Okay.
447
00:21:27,970 --> 00:21:29,904
So, John, you mentioned on
the phone that you had a theory
448
00:21:29,906 --> 00:21:32,039
about what might have
happened to your wife.
449
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:33,774
- Yeah, I do.
- 'Kay. What was it?
450
00:21:33,776 --> 00:21:37,177
Well, I got this letter.
It was an anonymous letter.
451
00:21:37,179 --> 00:21:41,780
The person who wrote it kind of
explains what... what happened.
452
00:21:41,782 --> 00:21:43,782
- Vicki was an accountant.
- Okay.
453
00:21:43,784 --> 00:21:47,284
And she evidently uncovered
a stealing operation
454
00:21:47,286 --> 00:21:48,585
that had been going on for years.
455
00:21:48,587 --> 00:21:50,554
And it involved a lot of money.
456
00:21:50,556 --> 00:21:52,088
I believe she told the wrong person,
457
00:21:52,090 --> 00:21:53,555
- and they took her out.
- All right.
458
00:21:53,557 --> 00:21:55,158
This is pretty far-fetched stuff here.
459
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,259
But you think this mighta had
something to do with her murder?
460
00:21:57,261 --> 00:21:59,128
I think so, yeah.
461
00:22:02,531 --> 00:22:07,668
AMY: The two guys are all
in black, all in shadow.
462
00:22:07,670 --> 00:22:10,403
The other guy, like, with
the shotgun, you know,
463
00:22:10,405 --> 00:22:12,670
he's got, like, some hat on.
464
00:22:12,672 --> 00:22:15,074
He's got, like, a long jacket on.
465
00:22:15,076 --> 00:22:19,243
You know, he strikes me
as the type of guy who,
466
00:22:19,245 --> 00:22:24,081
in life, obviously
held a power position,
467
00:22:24,083 --> 00:22:26,016
somewhere like a con artist.
468
00:22:26,018 --> 00:22:27,383
Do you know if these two guys
469
00:22:27,385 --> 00:22:30,286
had anything to do
with killing the girl?
470
00:22:30,288 --> 00:22:34,455
I am going to say she
knew these men, uh,
471
00:22:34,457 --> 00:22:35,859
and was possibly friends with them.
472
00:22:35,959 --> 00:22:38,058
So they have some sort of
relationship with the guy
473
00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:39,626
that actually killed her?
474
00:22:39,628 --> 00:22:42,132
Yes.
475
00:22:42,898 --> 00:22:44,262
This poor chick,
476
00:22:44,264 --> 00:22:47,833
whatever happened was
completely unexpected.
477
00:22:54,207 --> 00:22:55,540
If you need us to investigate
478
00:22:55,542 --> 00:22:57,407
unexplained activity in your home,
479
00:22:57,409 --> 00:23:00,075
go to the "Dead Files"
page at travelchannel.com.
480
00:23:00,077 --> 00:23:01,544
Click on "Help Me, Dead
Files" to submit your story,
481
00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:03,014
and we'll help if we can.
482
00:23:11,421 --> 00:23:13,586
STEVE: So far, I've got
a couple living in fear
483
00:23:13,588 --> 00:23:16,156
on a property connected
to an unsolved murder.
484
00:23:16,158 --> 00:23:17,590
But I need to see if there's
485
00:23:17,592 --> 00:23:20,159
anything else that could
help my investigation.
486
00:23:21,328 --> 00:23:22,726
Searching through old records,
487
00:23:22,728 --> 00:23:25,197
I find dozens of people
who died of illnesses
488
00:23:25,199 --> 00:23:27,165
on my clients' land.
489
00:23:27,167 --> 00:23:29,300
But what really catches
my attention is the murder
490
00:23:29,302 --> 00:23:30,668
of a Native American
491
00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:32,818
less than 300 feet
from Melissa's property.
492
00:23:34,307 --> 00:23:36,272
I called my old friend,
author Jeff Davis,
493
00:23:36,274 --> 00:23:37,606
to look into it for me.
494
00:23:37,608 --> 00:23:40,143
He says this murder was pretty brutal,
495
00:23:40,145 --> 00:23:42,545
and it remains unsolved to this day.
496
00:23:47,250 --> 00:23:49,049
So, Jeff, before we get to the murder,
497
00:23:49,051 --> 00:23:51,618
who were the Native Americans
that inhabited this area?
498
00:23:51,620 --> 00:23:54,319
Those people were the
Upper Skagit Indian tribe.
499
00:23:54,321 --> 00:23:56,355
And I've got a photo of some.
500
00:23:56,357 --> 00:23:59,692
Now, this was taken, uh,
probably in the early 1900s.
501
00:23:59,694 --> 00:24:01,259
So obviously, the Native Americans
502
00:24:01,261 --> 00:24:03,094
were displaced by the white
settlers at some point.
503
00:24:03,096 --> 00:24:04,429
How did they do that?
504
00:24:04,431 --> 00:24:06,297
There were a whole series of battles
505
00:24:06,299 --> 00:24:08,699
throughout the Northwest from 1855.
506
00:24:08,701 --> 00:24:10,200
All the way up to the 1900s,
507
00:24:10,202 --> 00:24:11,968
- there were still tensions.
- Okay.
508
00:24:11,970 --> 00:24:14,154
So at some point, obviously,
they were wiped out.
509
00:24:14,254 --> 00:24:15,441
Exactly.
510
00:24:17,724 --> 00:24:19,989
AMY: There is Native Americans here.
511
00:24:19,991 --> 00:24:21,824
Boy, they don't wanna have anything
512
00:24:21,826 --> 00:24:23,493
to do with this [bleep] place.
513
00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:33,399
Like, they're... It's, like,
repulsed, repulsed, very angry.
514
00:24:33,401 --> 00:24:35,401
Anger is a [bleep] understatement.
515
00:24:35,403 --> 00:24:36,678
There's a lot of them.
516
00:24:38,405 --> 00:24:42,174
But I think Native Americans
here put this barrier up.
517
00:24:42,176 --> 00:24:46,712
What I'm getting from them is
that this is contaminated land,
518
00:24:46,947 --> 00:24:52,117
and that no living
organism should exist here.
519
00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:55,881
All right.
520
00:24:55,981 --> 00:24:58,574
So tensions were high up into
the beginning of the 1900s.
521
00:24:58,674 --> 00:25:01,374
Now, I know the homicide
happened in 1905.
522
00:25:01,376 --> 00:25:03,041
Now, what do you know
about the homicide itself?
523
00:25:03,043 --> 00:25:06,311
One of the Native Americans...
his name was Wapato Joe...
524
00:25:06,313 --> 00:25:08,046
- went missing.
- Okay.
525
00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:10,415
At this time, he was about 75 years old.
526
00:25:10,417 --> 00:25:12,281
And he seemed to be liked by everybody.
527
00:25:12,283 --> 00:25:14,150
About 2 weeks passed,
528
00:25:14,152 --> 00:25:16,752
and then they finally
found his body, uh,
529
00:25:16,754 --> 00:25:18,598
on the bank of the river.
530
00:25:18,623 --> 00:25:20,189
How far from my
clients' property was it?
531
00:25:20,191 --> 00:25:22,891
Uh, it was about 300
feet from the property.
532
00:25:22,893 --> 00:25:24,794
How was he murdered? 'Cause
the article's kind of vague.
533
00:25:24,796 --> 00:25:27,062
He had been shot through the throat.
534
00:25:27,064 --> 00:25:28,595
Not only that: It was at close range
535
00:25:28,597 --> 00:25:30,230
because there were powder burns...
536
00:25:30,232 --> 00:25:31,231
- Okay.
- Around that.
537
00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:32,966
And the... the weirdest thing
538
00:25:32,968 --> 00:25:35,236
was that somebody had cut off his hands.
539
00:25:35,238 --> 00:25:37,102
That's a real cold-blooded
killing for a...
540
00:25:37,104 --> 00:25:41,039
to a 75-year-old guy that...
You know, not bothering anybody.
541
00:25:41,041 --> 00:25:42,740
Did they ever make an
arrest on this case?
542
00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:44,441
No. No, nobody was ever arrested.
543
00:25:44,443 --> 00:25:46,111
And from what I can tell,
544
00:25:46,113 --> 00:25:49,614
they didn't seem to look very
hard for... for the killer.
545
00:25:51,883 --> 00:25:56,419
This barrier, it promotes
violence and violent acts.
546
00:25:56,421 --> 00:26:01,989
It seems to trap, uh, people
who died on this land here.
547
00:26:01,991 --> 00:26:05,359
And I don't know if it
pulls people back here
548
00:26:05,361 --> 00:26:07,192
who have died elsewhere.
549
00:26:07,194 --> 00:26:08,629
The Native Americans,
550
00:26:08,631 --> 00:26:10,763
they would throw crazy people in there.
551
00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:15,638
And then they, like, go mad.
552
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,406
And they're, like, screaming
and yelling and hollering.
553
00:26:18,408 --> 00:26:21,677
And they're, like,
jumping around all crazy.
554
00:26:21,679 --> 00:26:24,506
And they're just acting like animals.
555
00:26:30,020 --> 00:26:32,318
I saw several dead
people during my walk,
556
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,188
but the murdered woman
stood out the most.
557
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:38,590
She was probably about my height.
558
00:26:38,592 --> 00:26:42,727
- She had very thin brows.
- Mm-hmm.
559
00:26:42,729 --> 00:26:44,828
It was raining or had
been raining 'cause
560
00:26:44,830 --> 00:26:47,765
she was completely wet.
561
00:26:47,767 --> 00:26:51,167
Then, I described her wrapping
herself around a living woman
562
00:26:51,169 --> 00:26:52,567
in the house.
563
00:26:52,569 --> 00:26:55,604
The dead lady is really thin.
564
00:26:55,606 --> 00:26:59,240
She is naked. And she's gray.
565
00:26:59,242 --> 00:27:00,741
She's covered in mud.
566
00:27:00,743 --> 00:27:03,520
She is kind of
567
00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:08,022
coming up behind the living woman
568
00:27:08,024 --> 00:27:11,523
and embracing her.
569
00:27:12,193 --> 00:27:14,880
Is this what you saw?
570
00:27:15,197 --> 00:27:17,149
Yes, that's what I saw.
571
00:27:36,613 --> 00:27:39,514
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
572
00:27:39,516 --> 00:27:40,948
we're ready to reveal our findings
573
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:44,217
to each other and our
clients for the first time.
574
00:27:44,219 --> 00:27:45,819
When I sat down with Melissa here,
575
00:27:45,821 --> 00:27:47,253
the first words out of her mouth
576
00:27:47,255 --> 00:27:50,357
were, "I'm terrified
to be in my own home."
577
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,724
She believes that whatever's
here is destroying her marriage,
578
00:27:52,726 --> 00:27:56,394
her health, and she
thinks she's going insane.
579
00:27:56,396 --> 00:27:57,762
This is her husband, Brandon.
580
00:27:57,764 --> 00:28:00,098
Uh, he served with the Navy,
581
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,733
and he was with the
Marine Corps in Iraq.
582
00:28:02,735 --> 00:28:04,568
He's been to hell and back, basically,
583
00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:07,771
but never expected to come home
to a war zone in his own house.
584
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,871
They can't afford to leave,
585
00:28:09,873 --> 00:28:13,308
but they're not sure
they'll survive if they stay.
586
00:28:13,310 --> 00:28:16,043
So now that Amy knows who
you guys are, a little bit
587
00:28:16,045 --> 00:28:18,125
about what's going on, she's
gonna describe her walk for us.
588
00:28:20,116 --> 00:28:24,283
When I first approached the property,
589
00:28:24,285 --> 00:28:29,788
I realized your house seems
to be located inside some kind
590
00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:32,625
of energy barrier.
591
00:28:32,959 --> 00:28:38,327
It seemed very negative
and very, very powerful.
592
00:28:38,329 --> 00:28:42,632
There's a lot of dead
that are just on the land,
593
00:28:42,634 --> 00:28:43,833
who are trapped.
594
00:28:43,835 --> 00:28:46,668
And I was thinking that
it would be possible
595
00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:51,839
that you guys would hear
them talking or hear voices.
596
00:28:51,841 --> 00:28:54,374
I felt nauseous and this illness.
597
00:28:54,376 --> 00:28:55,743
And the people
598
00:28:55,745 --> 00:28:59,145
were saying that a lot of
them had died from this.
599
00:29:00,914 --> 00:29:02,280
What I kept hearing out there
600
00:29:02,282 --> 00:29:05,258
was that we were not
supposed to be here.
601
00:29:06,252 --> 00:29:08,251
We've heard children.
602
00:29:08,253 --> 00:29:10,629
Uh, I've heard a man, heard women.
603
00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:13,079
BRANDON: I was sitting
on the couch, looked up,
604
00:29:13,081 --> 00:29:15,015
and I saw what looked
like a child's face.
605
00:29:15,017 --> 00:29:16,950
It almost looked like
a hologram projection,
606
00:29:16,952 --> 00:29:20,586
a blue and white face looking
in the... in the glass.
607
00:29:20,588 --> 00:29:22,854
- Okay.
- You mentioned sicknesses, right?
608
00:29:22,856 --> 00:29:24,456
- Oh, yeah.
- One of the main reasons
609
00:29:24,458 --> 00:29:27,426
we're here is because her
health has deteriorated.
610
00:29:27,493 --> 00:29:30,027
A couple months ago,
I had an iron infusion.
611
00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:32,696
My blood won't produce iron.
612
00:29:32,698 --> 00:29:36,966
Vocal cord dysfunction,
now, all of a sudden, nausea,
613
00:29:36,968 --> 00:29:38,435
vomiting.
614
00:29:38,437 --> 00:29:40,602
I was pretty healthy
before we moved here.
615
00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:42,071
Wow.
616
00:29:42,073 --> 00:29:44,706
Now, the barrier thing, do
you know who put this thing up?
617
00:29:44,708 --> 00:29:47,208
Native Americans put up the barrier.
618
00:29:47,210 --> 00:29:51,745
And the reason why was, over
a very long period of time,
619
00:29:51,747 --> 00:29:52,979
they noticed a pattern.
620
00:29:52,981 --> 00:29:56,547
Some of the men from the
tribe would come out here.
621
00:29:56,549 --> 00:30:00,419
And after exposure to this area,
622
00:30:00,421 --> 00:30:02,170
they would basically go insane.
623
00:30:03,723 --> 00:30:08,024
So they decided the best thing to do
624
00:30:08,026 --> 00:30:10,893
was to block off this land
625
00:30:10,895 --> 00:30:15,464
because they felt like it causes
mental illness, violent acts.
626
00:30:15,466 --> 00:30:18,933
And what really freaked me
out was, any living person
627
00:30:18,935 --> 00:30:21,934
who steps onto this land is tainted.
628
00:30:22,037 --> 00:30:27,106
And what they were kind
of saying was, "Doomed."
629
00:30:27,108 --> 00:30:29,111
Yeah, I feel like I'm going crazy.
630
00:30:29,211 --> 00:30:31,344
I spoke to one of Melissa's neighbors.
631
00:30:31,346 --> 00:30:33,112
They used to live here.
Her name was Tamee.
632
00:30:33,114 --> 00:30:35,181
Her and her husband fought a lot here,
633
00:30:35,183 --> 00:30:37,015
and she had mysterious stomach pains
634
00:30:37,017 --> 00:30:39,450
that she couldn't figure out.
635
00:30:39,452 --> 00:30:40,918
She moved away 2 years ago.
636
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,752
When she moved, she was fine.
637
00:30:42,754 --> 00:30:45,221
Interesting. Interesting.
638
00:30:45,223 --> 00:30:46,922
Now, when Tamee was living here,
639
00:30:46,924 --> 00:30:51,159
she said she went to a local
Native American tribe for help.
640
00:30:51,161 --> 00:30:53,527
And they told her, "Too
much bloodshed on the land.
641
00:30:53,529 --> 00:30:55,029
We can't help you."
642
00:30:55,031 --> 00:30:56,764
Really?
643
00:30:56,766 --> 00:30:58,865
- Yeah.
- Okay.
644
00:30:58,867 --> 00:31:00,367
Now, let me tell you
a little bit of history
645
00:31:00,369 --> 00:31:02,102
about what we're sitting on.
646
00:31:02,104 --> 00:31:04,403
This was the Upper Skagit Tribe area.
647
00:31:04,405 --> 00:31:07,073
They were around for
about 7,000 to 8,000 years,
648
00:31:07,075 --> 00:31:09,075
- apparently, on this land.
- Holy [bleep].
649
00:31:09,243 --> 00:31:10,807
Yeah.
650
00:31:10,809 --> 00:31:13,331
I got a photo of them
from the early 1900s.
651
00:31:14,713 --> 00:31:16,832
Now, 1840 is when the
white settlers came in.
652
00:31:16,949 --> 00:31:18,706
This is when they started
to push these guys out.
653
00:31:19,818 --> 00:31:22,250
After 50 years of fighting, eventually,
654
00:31:22,252 --> 00:31:24,656
the white settlers wiped
out nearly the entire tribe.
655
00:31:25,316 --> 00:31:28,816
We really have had a run of
bad luck since we moved here.
656
00:31:28,818 --> 00:31:34,153
We used to joke and say, "Did
we move on Indian burial ground?"
657
00:31:34,155 --> 00:31:36,389
Well, it's not a burial ground.
658
00:31:36,391 --> 00:31:39,259
It's kind of their dumping ground.
659
00:31:42,962 --> 00:31:45,662
So what else did you see on the walk?
660
00:31:45,664 --> 00:31:47,163
When I got here,
661
00:31:47,165 --> 00:31:52,169
I encountered a deceased
woman who was murdered.
662
00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:58,340
There were these two men
that were constantly with her.
663
00:31:58,342 --> 00:32:02,509
And they were preventing
her from speaking to me.
664
00:32:02,511 --> 00:32:06,412
They didn't want me to
find out who had killed her.
665
00:32:06,414 --> 00:32:08,548
I felt like she knew these two men.
666
00:32:08,550 --> 00:32:10,316
They were around at
the time of her murder,
667
00:32:10,318 --> 00:32:12,617
but they didn't directly do it.
668
00:32:12,619 --> 00:32:16,420
And the only thing that I
got on the man who killed her
669
00:32:16,422 --> 00:32:20,592
was that he did something
about, like, stealing money.
670
00:32:20,594 --> 00:32:23,193
I got that it was relatively recent.
671
00:32:23,195 --> 00:32:26,429
Uh, she died a horrible, horrible death.
672
00:32:26,431 --> 00:32:31,299
And I felt extremely sharp
pains in the neck and the head.
673
00:32:31,301 --> 00:32:33,356
I mean, it was awful, what he did.
674
00:32:37,371 --> 00:32:40,304
I'm sorry, guys. I'm having a neck pain.
675
00:32:40,306 --> 00:32:42,906
Yeah. It's bad here.
676
00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:47,543
This happens a lot to me.
677
00:32:47,545 --> 00:32:49,879
It just comes on out of nowhere.
678
00:32:49,881 --> 00:32:52,214
I taste blood in my mouth.
I feel like I can't breathe.
679
00:32:52,216 --> 00:32:54,248
- I feel like I'm choking.
- You okay?
680
00:32:54,250 --> 00:32:55,484
- I'm okay.
- Are you sure?
681
00:32:55,486 --> 00:32:57,380
Mm-hmm.
682
00:32:57,821 --> 00:32:59,853
So you guys mentioned there
might have been a murder.
683
00:32:59,855 --> 00:33:01,987
Literally, you can throw a
rock at where it happened.
684
00:33:01,989 --> 00:33:03,023
So I looked into it,
685
00:33:03,025 --> 00:33:04,757
and there was a murder of a woman.
686
00:33:04,759 --> 00:33:06,725
Her name was Vicki Silves.
687
00:33:06,727 --> 00:33:09,852
She and her husband, John,
moved next door in 1996.
688
00:33:11,173 --> 00:33:12,474
When they did move here,
689
00:33:12,476 --> 00:33:14,441
their marriage quickly went downhill.
690
00:33:14,443 --> 00:33:16,266
And John moved out within a few months.
691
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:21,780
On December 8, 1997, Vicki
failed to show up for work.
692
00:33:21,782 --> 00:33:23,516
So her boss sent a coworker to the house
693
00:33:23,518 --> 00:33:24,750
to see if she was around.
694
00:33:24,752 --> 00:33:26,351
When he came here,
695
00:33:26,353 --> 00:33:30,684
he found her in the driveway
in a pool of her own blood.
696
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:34,158
Now, you felt neck pain.
697
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,393
She'd been stabbed in
the neck multiple times.
698
00:33:37,395 --> 00:33:39,731
I got a hold of the
death certificate here.
699
00:33:43,835 --> 00:33:45,852
Now, it's still an open case.
700
00:33:45,868 --> 00:33:48,069
And I was only able to get 40 pages
701
00:33:48,071 --> 00:33:50,805
out of a 160-page case folder.
702
00:33:50,807 --> 00:33:53,138
She had been at a party that night,
703
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:55,475
and she was invited there
by a guy named Richard Brink.
704
00:33:55,477 --> 00:33:57,076
Apparently, she got drunk.
705
00:33:57,078 --> 00:33:59,465
And this guy, Richard Brink,
walks her back to the house.
706
00:33:59,547 --> 00:34:02,081
He admits to the cops that,
707
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:04,681
when he gets there,
they start making out.
708
00:34:04,683 --> 00:34:06,416
She was very flirtatious all night.
709
00:34:06,418 --> 00:34:08,383
And then, she'd get violent with him.
710
00:34:08,587 --> 00:34:09,790
And then, she'd be okay again.
711
00:34:09,890 --> 00:34:12,789
Brink told the detectives that
he got fed up with her behavior,
712
00:34:12,791 --> 00:34:14,124
and he decided to leave.
713
00:34:14,126 --> 00:34:15,923
But he said, he left her, she was alive.
714
00:34:15,925 --> 00:34:17,892
He was never arrested.
715
00:34:17,894 --> 00:34:19,162
I tried tracking him down.
716
00:34:19,164 --> 00:34:20,861
I figured, let me talk to him myself.
717
00:34:20,863 --> 00:34:22,330
Uh, he's dead.
718
00:34:22,332 --> 00:34:26,633
He died in 2003 at the age
of 47 of a heart attack.
719
00:34:26,635 --> 00:34:28,935
But the other suspect was the husband,
720
00:34:28,937 --> 00:34:30,903
who she was estranged from.
721
00:34:30,905 --> 00:34:33,972
I spoke to him, and he had
a really rock-solid alibi.
722
00:34:33,974 --> 00:34:36,640
He was at least 3 hours away
the night she was murdered.
723
00:34:36,642 --> 00:34:39,577
He couldn't have been here
when the murder went down.
724
00:34:39,579 --> 00:34:40,380
I don't understand why the cops
725
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,079
didn't take a closer look at Brink.
726
00:34:42,081 --> 00:34:44,249
But what I found interesting
was that, about 18 months
727
00:34:44,251 --> 00:34:45,416
after Vicki was murdered,
728
00:34:45,418 --> 00:34:47,150
John's mother got an anonymous letter.
729
00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:50,253
Basically said that she was
working at a local company,
730
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:53,289
and she found out that
people were stealing money.
731
00:34:53,291 --> 00:34:55,257
And she told the wrong person.
732
00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:56,257
And then, they had her killed.
733
00:34:56,259 --> 00:34:59,061
It's still an open case.
734
00:34:59,063 --> 00:35:01,228
This theory is interesting to me,
735
00:35:01,230 --> 00:35:03,498
just because of all the different people
736
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,965
that this dead female
737
00:35:05,967 --> 00:35:08,229
was showing me were
involved in her death.
738
00:35:08,302 --> 00:35:11,336
I know her killer is
dead because he's here.
739
00:35:11,338 --> 00:35:13,272
You think this is the same
person you came across,
740
00:35:13,372 --> 00:35:15,238
or you think it's somebody else?
741
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,307
I had a sketch done of her.
742
00:35:22,144 --> 00:35:23,845
Take a look at that.
743
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:30,485
Yeah. It could be her.
744
00:35:35,289 --> 00:35:36,460
BRANDON: They look similar.
745
00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:41,170
You okay?
746
00:35:41,172 --> 00:35:43,804
What do you think
when you see that face?
747
00:35:43,806 --> 00:35:45,273
Do you know her?
748
00:35:45,275 --> 00:35:46,407
I don't know.
749
00:35:46,409 --> 00:35:49,465
Have you felt her in
your room, in your bed?
750
00:35:49,911 --> 00:35:52,012
I can't breathe.
751
00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:58,217
What I was seeing, that
she'll get into the bed,
752
00:35:58,219 --> 00:36:01,342
and she'll wrap herself around you.
753
00:36:04,523 --> 00:36:06,523
And the reason why she does that
754
00:36:06,525 --> 00:36:09,893
is because she feels
safe from the two men.
755
00:36:09,895 --> 00:36:12,595
The problem is... is that
being in close proximity
756
00:36:12,597 --> 00:36:14,796
consistently with a dead person
757
00:36:14,798 --> 00:36:16,999
can not only make you extremely sick.
758
00:36:17,001 --> 00:36:23,572
It can also cause you to take
on the dead's personality,
759
00:36:23,574 --> 00:36:26,773
mannerisms, speech patterns.
760
00:36:26,775 --> 00:36:28,307
Melissa has changed a lot.
761
00:36:28,309 --> 00:36:29,643
I told her just the other night,
762
00:36:29,645 --> 00:36:31,077
I said she's not the
same woman I married.
763
00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:33,112
She's a completely different person.
764
00:36:33,114 --> 00:36:35,255
Sometimes, it's like
living with a stranger.
765
00:36:39,152 --> 00:36:41,818
MELISSA: This woman sat
on the end of the bed.
766
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:45,021
She had, like, a skeleton face.
767
00:36:45,023 --> 00:36:49,791
She said, "You're gonna
die," or "Do you wanna die?"
768
00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:51,610
I couldn't... I couldn't figure it out.
769
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:53,442
I was too scared.
770
00:36:53,444 --> 00:36:54,976
Okay.
771
00:36:54,978 --> 00:36:57,613
I did have a sketch done of what I saw.
772
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,483
Oh.
773
00:37:03,819 --> 00:37:06,019
[Shudders]
774
00:37:10,391 --> 00:37:14,259
Yeah. I know... I know that.
775
00:37:14,261 --> 00:37:17,401
I have a... a lotta nightmares.
776
00:37:17,501 --> 00:37:21,202
And I feel a lotta pressure on me.
777
00:37:21,204 --> 00:37:24,838
It's like a snake.
778
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,807
BRANDON: She's been complaining
of a lot of chest pain lately.
779
00:37:26,809 --> 00:37:29,075
She says it feels like a rubber
band's wrapped around her.
780
00:37:29,077 --> 00:37:32,466
She's killing you.
781
00:37:33,715 --> 00:37:36,347
When I sit down at the table at reveals,
782
00:37:36,349 --> 00:37:40,852
I will, like, tap the
people and scan them.
783
00:37:40,854 --> 00:37:43,354
What I saw around you was death.
784
00:38:12,345 --> 00:38:14,845
When I sit down at the table at reveals,
785
00:38:14,847 --> 00:38:19,548
I will, like, tap the
people and scan them.
786
00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:21,784
What I saw around you was death.
787
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,765
You have a choice to make here.
788
00:38:40,001 --> 00:38:42,936
I know the choice.
789
00:38:48,876 --> 00:38:50,709
My god.
790
00:38:58,715 --> 00:39:00,182
I can't breathe.
791
00:39:04,487 --> 00:39:06,921
Sweetie, you're a fighter.
792
00:39:15,929 --> 00:39:20,097
Listen, I know you two got more
than you bargained for tonight.
793
00:39:20,099 --> 00:39:24,068
Um, the only good news is
that you know you're not crazy.
794
00:39:24,070 --> 00:39:26,702
Uh, but to see if there's
a way out of this mess,
795
00:39:26,704 --> 00:39:27,824
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
796
00:39:31,242 --> 00:39:36,012
This is, like, when my job really sucks.
797
00:39:38,014 --> 00:39:42,682
Sometimes, there are
those places and locations
798
00:39:42,684 --> 00:39:47,288
that just never should
have been inhabited.
799
00:39:48,456 --> 00:39:51,324
And this is one of those places.
800
00:39:54,594 --> 00:39:57,327
So, in this situation,
801
00:39:57,329 --> 00:40:01,965
for your very survival,
802
00:40:01,967 --> 00:40:03,165
you should leave.
803
00:40:04,036 --> 00:40:07,722
And you should leave
as soon as possible.
804
00:40:08,373 --> 00:40:11,173
So there's no way of putting up
a barrier or anything like that?
805
00:40:11,175 --> 00:40:15,508
I mean, the Native Americans
knew that this place was...
806
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:17,545
was not livable.
807
00:40:17,547 --> 00:40:20,579
And they put their garbage here.
808
00:40:20,581 --> 00:40:24,083
Okay. So, if she leaves,
death would go away.
809
00:40:24,085 --> 00:40:26,032
If you make this choice, yes.
810
00:40:27,355 --> 00:40:30,690
If, for some reason, we can't go...
811
00:40:36,795 --> 00:40:38,329
I know.
812
00:40:38,331 --> 00:40:41,463
So if she moves away from here,
could she be like her friend
813
00:40:41,465 --> 00:40:43,515
Tamee, happy and healthy again?
814
00:40:44,868 --> 00:40:46,735
Yeah.
815
00:40:46,737 --> 00:40:51,141
Melissa's gotta make
the choice to be healthy.
816
00:40:52,474 --> 00:40:54,150
I'd have to send her,
and I'd have to stay.
817
00:40:54,944 --> 00:40:57,076
I can't move. I brought my mother here.
818
00:40:57,078 --> 00:40:59,322
I came back from the war, and
my mom wasn't doing too well.
819
00:40:59,413 --> 00:41:00,900
She's kind of wasting away.
820
00:41:01,449 --> 00:41:02,945
She wouldn't be able to leave.
821
00:41:03,784 --> 00:41:06,851
- You know I won't leave you.
- Thank you.
822
00:41:06,853 --> 00:41:08,728
I won't leave, I'll never leave you.
823
00:41:08,788 --> 00:41:11,131
Been with you 22 years, won't leave.
824
00:41:12,090 --> 00:41:14,624
I know it's a lot, but just
promise me you'll at least
825
00:41:14,724 --> 00:41:15,990
think about...
826
00:41:15,992 --> 00:41:16,959
- Oh, yeah.
- The advice.
827
00:41:16,961 --> 00:41:18,327
Promise you.
828
00:41:18,329 --> 00:41:20,528
- Okay.
- I understand.
829
00:41:20,530 --> 00:41:22,597
I think Melissa understands, as well,
830
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,631
the... the gravity of the situation.
831
00:41:24,633 --> 00:41:28,070
We've gone through hell
since we've moved here.
832
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:31,838
But I was hoping there
was gonna be a way out.
833
00:41:33,673 --> 00:41:36,173
AMY: The only way Melissa
and Brandon can be safe
834
00:41:36,175 --> 00:41:39,110
is to move as far away
from this land as possible.
835
00:41:39,112 --> 00:41:41,613
If they do that, they'll free themselves
836
00:41:41,615 --> 00:41:43,381
of the evil surrounding them
837
00:41:43,383 --> 00:41:45,783
and lead a healthy and peaceful life.
838
00:41:45,833 --> 00:41:50,383
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