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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,499 --> 00:00:13,527 This is weird. There's a problem here. 2 00:00:13,578 --> 00:00:15,512 She turned her head, and it was like this demonic face. 3 00:00:15,614 --> 00:00:19,716 WOMAN: Big impact in his stomach. Ooh, ooh! 4 00:00:19,818 --> 00:00:21,584 Do they execute this rat [bleep]? 5 00:00:21,686 --> 00:00:22,785 They do. 6 00:00:22,888 --> 00:00:24,187 WOMAN: He ruins people. 7 00:00:24,289 --> 00:00:25,722 He caused a lot of people to die. 8 00:00:25,824 --> 00:00:29,192 I feel like there's a presence inside this house. 9 00:00:29,294 --> 00:00:32,795 They're, like, trying to fight for life. 10 00:00:32,898 --> 00:00:35,498 Trying to run from death. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,934 There's a dark presence. 12 00:00:38,036 --> 00:00:40,003 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:40,105 --> 00:00:42,272 These things, they're freaking out. 14 00:00:42,374 --> 00:00:43,506 They're from hell. 15 00:00:43,608 --> 00:00:44,507 I see dead people. 16 00:00:44,609 --> 00:00:45,942 They were being hunted. 17 00:00:46,044 --> 00:00:47,577 I speak to dead people. 18 00:00:47,679 --> 00:00:50,613 They were setting people on fire, burning them alive. 19 00:00:50,715 --> 00:00:52,015 And they speak to me. 20 00:00:52,117 --> 00:00:53,383 Her neck got broken. 21 00:00:53,485 --> 00:00:56,386 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 22 00:00:56,488 --> 00:00:58,288 I hear a gunshot. 23 00:00:58,390 --> 00:00:59,556 I rely on my partner. 24 00:00:59,658 --> 00:01:00,823 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 25 00:01:00,926 --> 00:01:03,560 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 26 00:01:03,662 --> 00:01:04,694 Something's not right here. 27 00:01:04,796 --> 00:01:08,231 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 28 00:01:08,333 --> 00:01:10,767 It's not safe here. It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:10,869 --> 00:01:12,235 Are any of them buried on the property? 30 00:01:12,337 --> 00:01:13,636 They're all buried here. 31 00:01:13,738 --> 00:01:15,505 AMY: But Steve and I never speak. 32 00:01:15,607 --> 00:01:17,674 We never communicate during an investigation. 33 00:01:17,776 --> 00:01:19,008 Until the very end. 34 00:01:19,110 --> 00:01:20,276 I can't do it no more. 35 00:01:20,378 --> 00:01:22,579 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 36 00:01:22,681 --> 00:01:23,947 Holy [bleep] Look at this! 37 00:01:24,049 --> 00:01:25,448 Or time to get out. 38 00:01:25,550 --> 00:01:27,116 It does not have a happy ending. 39 00:01:27,219 --> 00:01:28,982 Something kills people here. 40 00:01:30,496 --> 00:01:34,653 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 41 00:01:43,535 --> 00:01:45,086 I'm in Richmond Heights, Ohio, 42 00:01:45,186 --> 00:01:47,419 it's a small town about 15 miles east of Cleveland. 43 00:01:47,954 --> 00:01:49,888 I got a call from a woman named Annette. 44 00:01:49,990 --> 00:01:52,657 She's a feisty lady, not scared of anything... 45 00:01:52,759 --> 00:01:54,459 except what's in her house. 46 00:01:54,561 --> 00:01:56,661 She says what's going on has gotten so bad, 47 00:01:56,763 --> 00:01:59,531 it's ripping her large family apart. 48 00:01:59,633 --> 00:02:00,698 She sounded pretty upset, 49 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,563 and I'm hoping we can help her out. 50 00:02:05,205 --> 00:02:06,371 MAN: Before Amy arrives, 51 00:02:06,473 --> 00:02:09,707 I clear the house of any leading information. 52 00:02:09,809 --> 00:02:11,576 Family photos and religious items 53 00:02:11,678 --> 00:02:13,845 must be covered or removed. 54 00:02:13,947 --> 00:02:15,146 When I'm finished, 55 00:02:15,248 --> 00:02:17,315 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 56 00:02:25,674 --> 00:02:27,107 AMY: Oh, boy. 57 00:02:27,209 --> 00:02:29,476 There's a female. 58 00:02:29,578 --> 00:02:32,012 She is not mentally sound. 59 00:02:32,114 --> 00:02:37,217 And she's basically screaming for her life. 60 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,287 So she's always in the process of dying. 61 00:02:40,389 --> 00:02:44,491 And it's due to a gunshot or a stab wound. 62 00:02:48,864 --> 00:02:50,977 I'm also seeing this dead teenage girl. 63 00:02:51,765 --> 00:02:53,799 Her hair is very long, 64 00:02:53,901 --> 00:02:55,801 and like, really dirty. 65 00:02:55,903 --> 00:02:59,004 And she is decomposing. 66 00:02:59,106 --> 00:03:04,576 What I see is a man in the shadows. 67 00:03:04,678 --> 00:03:06,645 She points to him, and she said, 68 00:03:06,747 --> 00:03:09,047 "You murdered me." 69 00:03:09,149 --> 00:03:12,551 And then I get a really super sharp pain 70 00:03:12,653 --> 00:03:15,153 right here in my neck. 71 00:03:15,256 --> 00:03:18,290 And I'm thinking, like, he might have stabbed her. 72 00:03:25,636 --> 00:03:27,036 STEVE: So, Annette, you sounded really upset 73 00:03:27,138 --> 00:03:29,038 when we spoke on the phone. 74 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:31,507 What the hell's going on? 75 00:03:31,609 --> 00:03:33,561 My family means everything to me, 76 00:03:33,661 --> 00:03:36,399 and this house is tearing our family apart. 77 00:03:37,202 --> 00:03:39,135 I mean, I've always been a strong woman, 78 00:03:39,237 --> 00:03:40,295 and I always told everyone, 79 00:03:40,395 --> 00:03:44,564 "Do not mess with my husband, my family, or my home." 80 00:03:44,666 --> 00:03:46,466 This is just something I can't handle. 81 00:03:46,568 --> 00:03:48,301 What exactly are people experiencing? 82 00:03:48,403 --> 00:03:54,140 From unexplained noises, sounds of footsteps all over the house. 83 00:03:54,243 --> 00:03:55,775 Seeing apparitions, 84 00:03:55,878 --> 00:03:59,479 and, here, lately, being physically touched. 85 00:03:59,581 --> 00:04:03,316 Okay. So who exactly lives here? 86 00:04:03,418 --> 00:04:05,685 Currently, just my husband and I. 87 00:04:05,787 --> 00:04:07,787 - I know you have a big family. - I do. 88 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:11,358 I have seven children and 11 grandchildren. 89 00:04:11,460 --> 00:04:14,227 This is my family. 90 00:04:14,329 --> 00:04:16,863 WE have five daughters and two sons. 91 00:04:16,965 --> 00:04:18,231 How long have you guys lived here? 92 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:19,866 For about 15 years now. 93 00:04:19,968 --> 00:04:22,435 What prompted you to call us now, though? 94 00:04:22,537 --> 00:04:24,638 My son, who came home from the Army, 95 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:26,339 he stayed with us for a while, 96 00:04:26,441 --> 00:04:29,476 but that activity increased so much, 97 00:04:29,578 --> 00:04:31,745 and he decided to leave. 98 00:04:31,847 --> 00:04:35,124 My grandchildren do not want to spend the night here. 99 00:04:35,224 --> 00:04:37,324 If they come over, it's during the daytime, 100 00:04:37,426 --> 00:04:40,294 and they're out of here before nightfall. 101 00:04:40,396 --> 00:04:41,741 Annette, I'm curious about your husband. 102 00:04:43,090 --> 00:04:44,923 How's he feel about this whole thing? 103 00:04:45,026 --> 00:04:46,191 I called you guys, 104 00:04:46,294 --> 00:04:49,528 and, you know, it started some arguments. 105 00:04:49,630 --> 00:04:52,631 This is his family, he should be able to fix it, so... 106 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:54,600 Is he okay with us being here? 107 00:04:54,702 --> 00:04:57,903 He knows I feel strongly about this. 108 00:04:58,005 --> 00:05:01,073 I need my life back, I need my family back. 109 00:05:01,175 --> 00:05:02,608 I want my home back. 110 00:05:08,215 --> 00:05:11,216 AMY: My goodness. 111 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:13,118 Okay. 112 00:05:13,220 --> 00:05:15,054 I'm getting a lot of people talking to me at once. 113 00:05:15,156 --> 00:05:21,994 Somebody who lives here, I think it's a male. 114 00:05:22,799 --> 00:05:24,799 There's somebody in this house 115 00:05:24,901 --> 00:05:28,403 who does not want us to be doing this, 116 00:05:28,505 --> 00:05:30,304 thinks it's bad, 117 00:05:30,407 --> 00:05:31,706 it's gonna stir [bleep] up. 118 00:05:31,808 --> 00:05:33,241 So this is a living person. 119 00:05:33,343 --> 00:05:34,409 Yeah. That's here. 120 00:05:34,511 --> 00:05:35,410 - Yes. - Okay. 121 00:05:35,512 --> 00:05:37,278 He's a control freak, 122 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:39,580 and he thinks he's got it all under control 123 00:05:39,682 --> 00:05:42,150 and he's, like, the man of the house, 124 00:05:42,252 --> 00:05:43,684 and you know, 125 00:05:43,787 --> 00:05:45,853 he can protect his own kind of thing. 126 00:05:45,955 --> 00:05:47,855 Like, you know, I don't need your guys' help. 127 00:05:47,957 --> 00:05:49,590 You don't need to be here. 128 00:05:56,654 --> 00:06:00,222 This is where some of the worst experiences have happened. 129 00:06:00,325 --> 00:06:02,024 Okay, like what? 130 00:06:02,126 --> 00:06:05,344 At night, there's a male figure 131 00:06:05,444 --> 00:06:07,911 that I see standing in that hallway. 132 00:06:08,013 --> 00:06:10,347 And he stands there as though, 133 00:06:10,449 --> 00:06:13,183 he's, like, keeping guard or watching over and looking in 134 00:06:13,285 --> 00:06:14,317 and checking in. 135 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:15,719 Okay, is it something you can see through 136 00:06:15,821 --> 00:06:17,587 - or is it solid? - It's solid. 137 00:06:17,689 --> 00:06:20,657 It's like a dark man with all black on. 138 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:22,125 You ever think about shutting the door at night? 139 00:06:22,227 --> 00:06:23,693 No. 140 00:06:23,796 --> 00:06:26,096 You might want to start doing that. 141 00:06:26,198 --> 00:06:28,098 I don't want to be locked in here with it. 142 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,500 Mmm. 143 00:06:30,602 --> 00:06:31,535 All right, anything else? 144 00:06:31,637 --> 00:06:33,603 I hear this voice call my name. 145 00:06:33,705 --> 00:06:36,006 Several times, I've, like, responded, 146 00:06:36,108 --> 00:06:37,274 thinking it was someone here, 147 00:06:37,376 --> 00:06:39,810 and then realizing, "Wait a minute, I'm here by myself." 148 00:06:39,912 --> 00:06:41,445 Is it a male voice or a female voice? 149 00:06:41,547 --> 00:06:43,046 Female voice. 150 00:06:43,148 --> 00:06:44,514 Could the TV have been on? 151 00:06:44,616 --> 00:06:45,882 No. 152 00:06:45,984 --> 00:06:47,851 Okay. Anything else? 153 00:06:47,953 --> 00:06:51,354 Yeah, another time, I was laying in bed here, 154 00:06:51,457 --> 00:06:55,559 and this demonic female form was sitting at the foot of my bed. 155 00:06:55,661 --> 00:07:00,230 I woke up and I saw it, 'cause I felt it actually sit down. 156 00:07:00,332 --> 00:07:03,767 She turned her head, and it was like this demonic face. 157 00:07:03,869 --> 00:07:08,171 Like, a beige tone, brown tone gargoyle. 158 00:07:08,273 --> 00:07:09,840 Okay. 159 00:07:09,942 --> 00:07:11,508 Like something out of a scary movie. 160 00:07:11,610 --> 00:07:17,047 It was just something that was terrifying. 161 00:07:17,149 --> 00:07:21,651 AMY: The dead teenage girl comes in here a lot. 162 00:07:21,753 --> 00:07:25,155 She likes it in here a lot. 163 00:07:25,257 --> 00:07:30,193 And there's a connection between her and the person in this room. 164 00:07:30,295 --> 00:07:33,196 There is communication there, 'cause I see, like, 165 00:07:33,298 --> 00:07:36,800 the dead girl, like sitting here in the middle of the floor. 166 00:07:36,902 --> 00:07:39,703 And she's talking to somebody. 167 00:07:39,805 --> 00:07:41,204 There's a relationship. 168 00:07:41,306 --> 00:07:44,007 This is her safe space, her safe area. 169 00:07:44,109 --> 00:07:45,942 She really likes this person. 170 00:07:46,044 --> 00:07:49,145 But because she's dying all the time, 171 00:07:49,248 --> 00:07:54,951 this person might feel really weird aches and pains... 172 00:07:55,053 --> 00:07:57,087 through their body, their joints. 173 00:07:57,189 --> 00:07:59,789 Obviously, it's not healthy. 174 00:07:59,892 --> 00:08:02,492 So it's almost like she's becoming a zombie. 175 00:08:09,268 --> 00:08:11,101 So, William, I spoke to Annette. 176 00:08:11,203 --> 00:08:13,703 And she's still pretty upset about the stuff going on. 177 00:08:13,805 --> 00:08:15,839 Are you happy we're here? 178 00:08:15,941 --> 00:08:16,706 No. 179 00:08:16,808 --> 00:08:17,307 Why? 180 00:08:17,409 --> 00:08:18,041 'Cause I didn't know 181 00:08:18,143 --> 00:08:19,676 nothing about you all. 182 00:08:19,778 --> 00:08:22,279 It could have made something worse or, you know. 183 00:08:22,381 --> 00:08:23,446 Do you believe in any of this stuff? 184 00:08:23,549 --> 00:08:24,781 - Well, I do now. - You do? 185 00:08:24,883 --> 00:08:26,983 Yes. So I gotta assume by that answer, 186 00:08:27,085 --> 00:08:28,985 - you've had experiences. - Yes. 187 00:08:29,087 --> 00:08:30,086 Okay, can you tell me about some of them? 188 00:08:30,188 --> 00:08:32,969 Okay, yeah, I was in the basement watching TV. 189 00:08:33,069 --> 00:08:34,802 And out of the corner of my eyes, 190 00:08:34,904 --> 00:08:37,171 I seen a lady up on the wall, 191 00:08:37,273 --> 00:08:38,873 coming down the steps. 192 00:08:38,975 --> 00:08:40,174 What did she look like? 193 00:08:40,276 --> 00:08:43,678 She was a little short white lady with long, white hair 194 00:08:43,780 --> 00:08:45,446 and a long, white gown. 195 00:08:45,548 --> 00:08:46,781 And she was walking up 196 00:08:46,883 --> 00:08:48,616 against the wall like this and coming down the steps. 197 00:08:48,718 --> 00:08:49,917 And just looking at me like, 198 00:08:50,019 --> 00:08:52,987 "Do he see me?" It ain't like I'm asleep. 199 00:08:53,089 --> 00:08:57,325 I'm sitting there looking at her, and saying, "Oh, my God!" 200 00:08:57,427 --> 00:08:58,960 Man, that's a little strange. 201 00:08:59,062 --> 00:09:00,127 Anything else? 202 00:09:00,229 --> 00:09:02,129 One night, we were sitting in the basement, 203 00:09:02,231 --> 00:09:05,399 and seemed like somebody done broke in or something 204 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:07,001 because this... 205 00:09:07,103 --> 00:09:09,370 it was so loud on that floor. 206 00:09:09,472 --> 00:09:10,905 We looked around. 207 00:09:11,007 --> 00:09:12,139 Nothing. 208 00:09:12,241 --> 00:09:13,641 - You guys have dogs? - No. 209 00:09:13,743 --> 00:09:16,177 Okay, you ever check for rodents? 210 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,512 - Uh, no. - Okay. 211 00:09:18,614 --> 00:09:20,848 Um, so anything else? 212 00:09:20,950 --> 00:09:23,918 Yeah, I was coming down the steps about 8:00 in the morning. 213 00:09:24,020 --> 00:09:26,487 And seen a body of flashing lights, 214 00:09:26,589 --> 00:09:29,557 like a thousand flashing lights, all in one body, 215 00:09:29,659 --> 00:09:31,525 trickling, coming at me. 216 00:09:31,627 --> 00:09:32,927 Okay, so let me get this description right. 217 00:09:33,029 --> 00:09:35,563 This is the first time I'm hearing something like this. 218 00:09:35,665 --> 00:09:36,697 Okay. Big round... 219 00:09:36,799 --> 00:09:38,332 Round, like that, yeah. 220 00:09:38,434 --> 00:09:40,301 About as long as your body. 221 00:09:40,403 --> 00:09:41,502 - Really? - Yes. 222 00:09:41,604 --> 00:09:43,471 Almost knocked me down it scared me so bad. 223 00:09:47,610 --> 00:09:49,343 [Amy sighs] 224 00:09:49,445 --> 00:09:51,412 Oh, boy. 225 00:09:51,514 --> 00:09:55,683 I see, like, this guy, who, I'm assuming, is not good. 226 00:09:59,255 --> 00:10:02,390 I don't know how he's manifesting this weird light. 227 00:10:02,492 --> 00:10:04,658 And I think that the living 228 00:10:04,761 --> 00:10:09,630 would probably see this weird light. 229 00:10:09,732 --> 00:10:11,665 It wouldn't be like the whole room 230 00:10:11,768 --> 00:10:13,234 would be filled with this light, 231 00:10:13,336 --> 00:10:16,137 it would be like kind of a cut-out. 232 00:10:21,278 --> 00:10:26,648 So, the guy from outside, this guy in the light, 233 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:29,718 he's in here. 234 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:32,554 He ruins people. 235 00:10:32,656 --> 00:10:33,855 How. 236 00:10:34,332 --> 00:10:37,767 He does, like, an analysis of the people in the house, 237 00:10:37,869 --> 00:10:39,669 and then he just takes 238 00:10:39,771 --> 00:10:41,137 whatever's most valuable to them. 239 00:10:41,239 --> 00:10:44,418 So if a man's wife 240 00:10:44,518 --> 00:10:47,486 is the most valuable thing, he'll destroy that. 241 00:10:50,191 --> 00:10:52,725 He wants out of here, and he can't get out of here. 242 00:10:52,827 --> 00:10:55,127 I guess he thinks this is his hell. 243 00:11:18,009 --> 00:11:20,142 Mom said that you had recently moved back, 244 00:11:20,244 --> 00:11:22,278 but then you moved out. What was the story? 245 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:25,014 I had a tour over in Afghanistan, 246 00:11:25,116 --> 00:11:27,950 and when I had got back, I was here about five months. 247 00:11:28,052 --> 00:11:30,119 Now, did you leave because of what's going on in the house? 248 00:11:30,221 --> 00:11:31,320 - Yes. - Explain to me how 249 00:11:31,422 --> 00:11:33,555 a guy like you, who's been in combat conditions, 250 00:11:33,658 --> 00:11:34,957 could be driven out of a house. 251 00:11:35,059 --> 00:11:37,459 Well, one time I was laying in bed, 252 00:11:37,561 --> 00:11:41,664 and I heard a conversation going on between two females. 253 00:11:41,766 --> 00:11:43,165 Were you able to make out what they were saying? 254 00:11:43,267 --> 00:11:44,900 I was not able to make out what they were saying. 255 00:11:45,002 --> 00:11:46,969 It sounded like a real muffled conversation. 256 00:11:47,071 --> 00:11:49,672 I thought that maybe my mom had stayed home from work. 257 00:11:49,774 --> 00:11:50,839 Okay, was Mom home? 258 00:11:50,942 --> 00:11:51,874 No, no one was home. 259 00:11:51,976 --> 00:11:53,542 Okay, what about the TV being on? 260 00:11:53,644 --> 00:11:55,177 Then that was my second thought. 261 00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:58,380 Until I opened my door to use the restroom 262 00:11:58,482 --> 00:12:01,717 and the conversation between the two females stopped. 263 00:12:01,819 --> 00:12:03,352 Okay, anything else? 264 00:12:03,454 --> 00:12:06,622 There feels like there's a presence inside this house 265 00:12:06,724 --> 00:12:08,090 at certain times. 266 00:12:08,192 --> 00:12:10,192 I'd say when I'm walking up the stairs, 267 00:12:10,294 --> 00:12:11,894 I feel like something's behind me. 268 00:12:11,996 --> 00:12:14,897 Feels like something is immediately coming after me. 269 00:12:14,999 --> 00:12:16,131 There's been many instances 270 00:12:16,233 --> 00:12:19,201 where I've slept outside in the car. 271 00:12:19,303 --> 00:12:21,670 Yeah, I don't want to be inside this house. 272 00:12:21,772 --> 00:12:23,172 All right, so let me ask you a question, 273 00:12:23,274 --> 00:12:24,640 - would you sleep here alone? - No, never. 274 00:12:24,742 --> 00:12:27,509 I wouldn't stay a night here again... 275 00:12:27,611 --> 00:12:28,711 with our without people here. 276 00:12:28,813 --> 00:12:30,185 So it's not happening. 277 00:12:35,152 --> 00:12:36,758 AMY: The two murdered women are in here, 278 00:12:36,858 --> 00:12:38,791 and they're literally, 279 00:12:38,893 --> 00:12:43,062 like, pacing around at the end of this bed. 280 00:12:43,164 --> 00:12:45,097 The living can see them, 281 00:12:45,199 --> 00:12:49,235 and the one who's crazy 282 00:12:49,337 --> 00:12:52,338 is making these people crazy. 283 00:12:53,134 --> 00:12:55,000 That would be like, you know, 284 00:12:55,102 --> 00:13:00,973 loss of focus, hearing voices, hallucinations. 285 00:13:01,075 --> 00:13:05,578 Extreme depression Extreme depression. 286 00:13:13,721 --> 00:13:15,120 STEVE: So, Nikki, I was talking to Mom. 287 00:13:15,223 --> 00:13:16,989 It's heartbreaking listening to her talk about how family 288 00:13:17,091 --> 00:13:19,325 is just torn apart by what's going on here. 289 00:13:19,427 --> 00:13:20,659 Nobody wants to come here. 290 00:13:20,761 --> 00:13:22,528 Nobody wants to come here. 291 00:13:22,630 --> 00:13:24,697 We travel from Georgia to come up here, 292 00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:27,566 - and usually we just get a hotel. - Really? 293 00:13:27,668 --> 00:13:31,403 We'd rather pay money to go to a hotel 294 00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:33,205 then to stay in this house. 295 00:13:33,307 --> 00:13:34,740 Okay, so it sounds like you've had 296 00:13:34,842 --> 00:13:36,208 some pretty bad experiences here. 297 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:37,476 Yeah. 298 00:13:37,578 --> 00:13:39,078 I just get the feeling of panic 299 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:40,679 when I walk into this house. 300 00:13:40,781 --> 00:13:43,315 It's this feeling of being overwhelmed 301 00:13:43,417 --> 00:13:47,519 when you know that something might just happen. 302 00:13:47,622 --> 00:13:49,488 - I'm nervous now. - I can see it. 303 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:51,090 It feels like I need to leave, 304 00:13:51,192 --> 00:13:52,625 like something was just, 305 00:13:52,727 --> 00:13:54,994 like, "Get out of this house." 306 00:13:55,096 --> 00:13:57,529 But have you actually experienced anything? 307 00:13:57,632 --> 00:13:59,413 I was would sleep in the den, 308 00:13:59,513 --> 00:14:01,747 and I woke up from out of my sleep, 309 00:14:01,849 --> 00:14:04,283 and I saw something come downstairs. 310 00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:05,584 It was this tall man. 311 00:14:05,686 --> 00:14:07,922 When I saw him, we looked at each other, 312 00:14:08,022 --> 00:14:10,923 and then he backed up, then went back up the stairs. 313 00:14:11,025 --> 00:14:12,658 Could you describe what he looked like? 314 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,060 Tall guy. He might have been white. 315 00:14:15,162 --> 00:14:16,795 Maybe his fifties. 316 00:14:16,897 --> 00:14:18,230 You don't have to, you know, 317 00:14:18,332 --> 00:14:20,732 keep scaring me in order for me to get it. 318 00:14:20,835 --> 00:14:23,492 I get it, I saw you, you saw me, it's... no. 319 00:14:23,592 --> 00:14:24,491 Game over. 320 00:14:24,593 --> 00:14:26,426 That's it. 321 00:14:26,528 --> 00:14:27,761 I want everybody to be safe. 322 00:14:27,863 --> 00:14:29,630 I want this thing out of here. 323 00:14:32,401 --> 00:14:34,535 Hmm. 324 00:14:34,637 --> 00:14:36,503 Hmm. 325 00:14:36,606 --> 00:14:38,839 It's a male. 326 00:14:38,941 --> 00:14:40,274 This is like a panic. 327 00:14:40,376 --> 00:14:42,653 I'm so panicked. 328 00:14:44,852 --> 00:14:46,819 Panicked, panicked. 329 00:14:47,641 --> 00:14:49,541 Trying to fight for life. 330 00:14:49,643 --> 00:14:50,775 Trying to fight death. 331 00:14:50,878 --> 00:14:53,678 Trying to run from death. 332 00:14:53,780 --> 00:14:56,681 It's awful. My brain is being affected. 333 00:14:56,783 --> 00:14:58,817 I can't talk right. 334 00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:04,389 Feel sick, horrible, nauseous. 335 00:15:04,491 --> 00:15:08,693 I think the living would feel this. 336 00:15:08,795 --> 00:15:12,197 They would feel massive amounts of panic down here. 337 00:15:12,299 --> 00:15:15,200 And then feeling like impending doom. 338 00:15:21,875 --> 00:15:23,942 Oh, yeah, it feels worse in here. 339 00:15:24,044 --> 00:15:25,710 Oof! Ooh! 340 00:15:25,812 --> 00:15:29,314 I don't understand anybody coming down here. 341 00:15:29,416 --> 00:15:34,319 There's like a crushing, crushing pain. 342 00:15:35,389 --> 00:15:36,489 Oh, God! 343 00:15:49,307 --> 00:15:51,474 STEVE: Annette and William didn't know much history about their home, 344 00:15:51,576 --> 00:15:53,276 so I made some calls, and I found out a woman 345 00:15:53,378 --> 00:15:56,197 suffering from Alzheimer's used to live in their house. 346 00:15:56,297 --> 00:15:58,698 In fact, I managed to track down the woman's pastor, 347 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,533 who says he knew her and has some information 348 00:16:00,635 --> 00:16:02,668 that will definitely help my case. 349 00:16:05,907 --> 00:16:08,040 [Bell tolling] 350 00:16:08,143 --> 00:16:10,843 Pastor Hill, thanks for meeting me, I appreciate that. 351 00:16:10,945 --> 00:16:13,546 The house I'm investigating, you had mentioned the previous owner 352 00:16:13,648 --> 00:16:15,848 was actually a member of your church here. 353 00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:17,850 Yes. So, Pastor, do you have any idea 354 00:16:17,952 --> 00:16:19,986 when she moved into the house I'm investigating? 355 00:16:20,088 --> 00:16:22,121 Yes, Eleanor moved in in 1973 356 00:16:22,223 --> 00:16:26,159 when she met and married Valentine Carpozi. 357 00:16:26,261 --> 00:16:28,961 Tragically, five years into their marriage, 358 00:16:29,063 --> 00:16:31,831 he has a massive heart attack on the living room floor, 359 00:16:31,933 --> 00:16:36,169 and then one hour later, at the hospital, he dies. 360 00:16:36,271 --> 00:16:38,704 I can almost guarantee you he was already dead in the house 361 00:16:38,807 --> 00:16:42,642 and they just moved him to the hospital for the family's sake. 362 00:16:42,744 --> 00:16:48,047 Young guy, too... only 66. 363 00:16:48,149 --> 00:16:51,551 AMY: That dead guy who was trying to fight death 364 00:16:51,653 --> 00:16:54,020 died down here. 365 00:16:54,122 --> 00:16:56,055 And this was recent. 366 00:16:56,157 --> 00:16:58,090 This person died recently. 367 00:16:58,193 --> 00:16:59,225 So I think he's older. 368 00:16:59,327 --> 00:17:03,029 I think he's maybe in his sixties. 369 00:17:03,131 --> 00:17:05,998 I think he was 68. 370 00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:08,707 I want to say that this guy, like, owned this house. 371 00:17:08,807 --> 00:17:11,407 He knew he was gonna die, and he was trying to fight it, 372 00:17:11,509 --> 00:17:14,143 and he was, like, running from place to place to try to, 373 00:17:14,245 --> 00:17:18,047 I guess, outrun death or something. 374 00:17:18,149 --> 00:17:19,315 Do you know how he died? 375 00:17:19,417 --> 00:17:20,983 Maybe a stroke. 376 00:17:21,086 --> 00:17:24,754 Can't move his jaw, can't speak really well. 377 00:17:24,856 --> 00:17:27,657 His brain feels weird, and he feels nauseous. 378 00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:29,792 This is not good. This is really bad. 379 00:17:29,894 --> 00:17:35,431 Like, he's making people very, very, very, very sick. 380 00:17:38,192 --> 00:17:39,558 STEVE: Eleanor, did she ever re-marry? 381 00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:40,659 No. 382 00:17:40,761 --> 00:17:42,194 Okay, so how long did she stay in the house alone? 383 00:17:42,296 --> 00:17:43,929 21 years by herself. 384 00:17:44,031 --> 00:17:44,996 What kind of woman was she? 385 00:17:45,099 --> 00:17:46,598 She was here every Sunday. 386 00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:49,501 Her faith was what got her through. 387 00:17:49,603 --> 00:17:50,736 What kind of a church is this? 388 00:17:50,838 --> 00:17:53,004 It's kind of not like any other. 389 00:17:53,107 --> 00:17:56,108 We do communicate with the dead. 390 00:17:56,210 --> 00:18:00,145 You help patrons of the church communicate with the dead? 391 00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:02,647 - Yes. - Wow. 392 00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:03,849 Pastor, let me ask you a question. 393 00:18:03,951 --> 00:18:05,584 The people that come here, the congregation, 394 00:18:05,686 --> 00:18:09,254 do you think they all have psychic abilities? 395 00:18:09,356 --> 00:18:12,157 We all are born with the abilities, 396 00:18:12,259 --> 00:18:14,760 and the people come here to develop them. 397 00:18:14,862 --> 00:18:16,061 Okay, now, what about Eleanor? 398 00:18:16,163 --> 00:18:17,729 Do we know if she had any abilities? 399 00:18:17,831 --> 00:18:18,830 Yes. 400 00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:20,265 Eleanor would always sit in the front here. 401 00:18:20,367 --> 00:18:21,600 She was a believer. 402 00:18:21,702 --> 00:18:24,002 Okay, so now you said she lived there for 21 years. 403 00:18:24,104 --> 00:18:25,537 Did she die in the house I'm investigating? 404 00:18:25,639 --> 00:18:29,641 No. In the '90s, she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. 405 00:18:29,743 --> 00:18:32,077 In fear of her safety, in 1999, 406 00:18:32,179 --> 00:18:35,147 they put her into an assisted living facility. 407 00:18:35,249 --> 00:18:36,782 When does she eventually pass away? 408 00:18:36,884 --> 00:18:39,684 - December 29, 2001. - Okay. 409 00:18:39,787 --> 00:18:42,621 And I actually have her death certificate. 410 00:18:42,723 --> 00:18:44,189 Okay, do we know what she died of? 411 00:18:44,291 --> 00:18:45,757 - Cardiac arrest. - She did. 412 00:18:45,859 --> 00:18:47,192 In the nursing home. 413 00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:50,996 Okay. 414 00:18:51,098 --> 00:18:55,233 AMY: What? 415 00:18:55,335 --> 00:18:56,568 The [bleep]? 416 00:18:56,670 --> 00:19:01,006 I see leashes from a woman 417 00:19:01,108 --> 00:19:03,608 to the two dead women. 418 00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:06,111 Interesting. 419 00:19:06,213 --> 00:19:07,412 I'm mad. 420 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:11,116 Somebody here messed with either a Ouija board 421 00:19:11,218 --> 00:19:14,486 or some seance... some kind of [bleep]. 422 00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,855 Might be practicing witchcraft. 423 00:19:16,957 --> 00:19:20,425 And they have now basically enslaved 424 00:19:20,527 --> 00:19:23,462 these two dead people... these two dead females. 425 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,767 William told me he hears footsteps in the house 426 00:19:27,869 --> 00:19:29,233 all the time. 427 00:19:29,637 --> 00:19:31,237 Now, sometimes people 428 00:19:31,339 --> 00:19:33,005 start blaming everything on the paranormal. 429 00:19:33,107 --> 00:19:34,740 It could just be rodents. 430 00:19:34,842 --> 00:19:36,275 I'm heading back to the house now to meet with 431 00:19:36,377 --> 00:19:38,877 a pest control expert to see if that could be the case. 432 00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:44,958 Well, Jessie, thanks for meeting me, I appreciate that. 433 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:46,993 Everybody in the house is hearing footsteps. 434 00:19:47,095 --> 00:19:49,762 Have you ever encountered a place 435 00:19:49,864 --> 00:19:50,997 where it could be some kind 436 00:19:51,099 --> 00:19:53,066 of an animal that could make a noise like that? 437 00:19:53,168 --> 00:19:56,436 Usually, mostly, that's what it is. 438 00:19:56,538 --> 00:19:58,137 Now, what kind of an animal are we talking about? 439 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,707 - Raccoons, possums. - Okay. 440 00:20:00,809 --> 00:20:01,808 Family of squirrels. 441 00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:04,043 Okay, so if you can find evidence of that, 442 00:20:04,145 --> 00:20:07,513 at least I could tell them this is why you're hearing this. 443 00:20:07,616 --> 00:20:08,982 So if you can get to work on it for me, 444 00:20:09,084 --> 00:20:10,450 and I'll get back with you when you're done. 445 00:20:10,552 --> 00:20:11,884 - I could sure do that for you. - Okay, excellent. 446 00:20:11,987 --> 00:20:12,885 - Thank you, buddy. - You got it. 447 00:20:12,988 --> 00:20:14,187 - Appreciate it. Thanks. - Mm-hmm. 448 00:20:16,197 --> 00:20:17,229 STEVE: With all the bizarre sounds 449 00:20:17,331 --> 00:20:18,862 Annette and William are hearing, 450 00:20:18,962 --> 00:20:22,830 I know I have to rule out the obvious first. 451 00:20:22,933 --> 00:20:24,666 And if there isn't a physical explanation, 452 00:20:24,768 --> 00:20:27,235 our only hope for answers will have to come from Amy. 453 00:20:27,337 --> 00:20:28,670 All right, Jessie, so what's the story? 454 00:20:28,772 --> 00:20:32,440 I found zero signs of activity during my inspection. 455 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:35,109 Okay, so there's no chance 456 00:20:35,212 --> 00:20:37,512 that what they're hearing is caused by any kind of wildlife. 457 00:20:37,614 --> 00:20:39,113 Steve, I'm 100% sure. 458 00:20:39,216 --> 00:20:40,682 I appreciate you help and time. Thank you. 459 00:20:40,784 --> 00:20:43,851 Not a problem at all. 460 00:20:44,645 --> 00:20:46,177 AMY: The guy from outside... 461 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,714 the dead guy with lights is acting really strange. 462 00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:54,452 He smushed himself down, like, to this tall. 463 00:20:56,623 --> 00:20:58,857 Flat. 464 00:20:58,959 --> 00:21:02,327 And then it gets really loud. 465 00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:05,397 It's super, super loud. 466 00:21:05,499 --> 00:21:09,501 [Groans] 467 00:21:09,603 --> 00:21:12,337 When he does that, it's a problem. 468 00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:13,705 What do you mean? 469 00:21:13,807 --> 00:21:15,674 It's a problem because 470 00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:19,778 the dead ladies freak out. 471 00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:25,417 Like, it's like everything is going nuts 472 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,186 because all the other dead people are losing their minds. 473 00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:30,088 What kind of effect would all this chaos 474 00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:31,323 have on the living? 475 00:21:31,425 --> 00:21:33,858 I think they would hear voices, 476 00:21:33,961 --> 00:21:39,998 and there would be, like, a lot of the feeling of movement. 477 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,067 Like a lot of people moving around. 478 00:21:42,169 --> 00:21:45,937 And so there's all this pandemonium happening. 479 00:21:52,595 --> 00:21:54,144 If you need us to investigate 480 00:21:54,244 --> 00:21:55,877 unexplained activity in your home, 481 00:21:55,979 --> 00:21:58,246 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 482 00:21:58,348 --> 00:22:00,148 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files" 483 00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:01,917 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 484 00:22:09,185 --> 00:22:11,683 STEVE: So far, I've got a family being terrorized in a home 485 00:22:11,783 --> 00:22:14,068 whose former owner died of a massive heart attack, 486 00:22:14,168 --> 00:22:15,201 leaving behind a widow 487 00:22:15,303 --> 00:22:17,536 who believed she could speak to the dead. 488 00:22:17,639 --> 00:22:18,838 But I need to see if there's anything else 489 00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:21,907 that can help my investigation. 490 00:22:22,010 --> 00:22:23,209 Searching through old records, 491 00:22:23,311 --> 00:22:26,012 I come across a gangster named Athay Brown. 492 00:22:26,114 --> 00:22:27,146 Turns out his gang 493 00:22:27,248 --> 00:22:28,914 was responsible for the death of a woman 494 00:22:29,017 --> 00:22:33,085 less than a hundred yards from my clients' property. 495 00:22:33,187 --> 00:22:35,121 Look, when I want to know the facts about a murder, 496 00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:37,657 there's only one source I really trust, the cops. 497 00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,126 So I'm on my way to meet with a Cleveland homicide detective 498 00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:42,061 who looked into it for me, and he says 499 00:22:42,163 --> 00:22:44,897 Brown was one of the most violent and notorious murders 500 00:22:44,999 --> 00:22:46,532 in Cleveland's history. 501 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,640 So I know you looked into this local gangster. 502 00:22:54,742 --> 00:22:56,375 What can you tell me about the case? 503 00:22:56,477 --> 00:22:58,944 MAN: Almost right next door to your client's property, 504 00:22:59,047 --> 00:23:00,513 there lived a lady named Kerri Sykes. 505 00:23:00,615 --> 00:23:04,350 She was a 63-year-old lady who claimed to be a psychic. 506 00:23:04,452 --> 00:23:05,651 And she did readings for people. 507 00:23:05,753 --> 00:23:08,120 Well, on August 30, 1932, 508 00:23:08,222 --> 00:23:11,490 Kerri Sykes is at home with an elderly friend... 509 00:23:11,592 --> 00:23:12,858 a 72-year-old widow, 510 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,428 and these four gangsters knock on her door. 511 00:23:15,530 --> 00:23:18,464 And they tell them that they're looking to have a reading. 512 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:21,532 Athay brown is one of the gang leaders. 513 00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:23,167 Now, you said he was one of Cleveland's 514 00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:25,102 - most dangerous gangsters. - Yes. 515 00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:29,673 They had done 40 or more robberies in the Cleveland area 516 00:23:29,776 --> 00:23:31,675 during a six-month period. 517 00:23:31,778 --> 00:23:34,678 They were involved in four murders. 518 00:23:34,781 --> 00:23:36,580 So what happened? 519 00:23:36,682 --> 00:23:38,382 Once she lets them in the house, 520 00:23:38,484 --> 00:23:40,217 they produce pistols, 521 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,686 and they force the women into the basement and tie them up. 522 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:45,422 And then begin to ransack the house. 523 00:23:45,525 --> 00:23:48,459 Well, Kerri was able to free herself and free her companion. 524 00:23:48,561 --> 00:23:50,413 She boosts the 72-year-old lady 525 00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:53,715 up in the basement and out the basement window. 526 00:23:53,815 --> 00:23:56,583 So the 72-year-old now is able to run for help. 527 00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,018 And now Kerri finds herself alone in basement, 528 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,054 and she starts to have a panic attack, 529 00:24:01,156 --> 00:24:03,323 and actually causes her to have a heart attack, 530 00:24:03,425 --> 00:24:05,258 and she dies right there in the basement. 531 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,960 How does he wind up getting caught? 532 00:24:07,062 --> 00:24:10,463 Well, he actually doesn't get caught for Kerri Sykes' death. 533 00:24:10,565 --> 00:24:11,864 A few weeks later, 534 00:24:11,967 --> 00:24:14,100 he thinks that one of the members of his gang 535 00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:17,136 is talking to the police about him, and he gets paranoid. 536 00:24:17,239 --> 00:24:18,538 So him and another gang member 537 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,740 sneak into the snitch's house one night. 538 00:24:20,842 --> 00:24:22,175 And while the snitch 539 00:24:22,277 --> 00:24:27,313 is sleeping with his 20-year-old pregnant wife, they open fire. 540 00:24:27,415 --> 00:24:29,882 They miss the snitch, but they killed the pregnant wife. 541 00:24:29,985 --> 00:24:31,851 - Oh, [bleep]. - Francine Holt... 542 00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:36,356 and I was able to find a copy of her death certificate for you. 543 00:24:36,458 --> 00:24:37,757 So he jumps back on a train 544 00:24:37,859 --> 00:24:40,059 and heads back to Cleveland, and the Cleveland police 545 00:24:40,161 --> 00:24:42,328 had been alerted at that time, and they were waiting for him, 546 00:24:42,430 --> 00:24:43,763 and they arrested him when he got off the train. 547 00:24:43,865 --> 00:24:45,331 He goes to trial, I guess? 548 00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:46,599 Yes, he goes to trial 549 00:24:46,701 --> 00:24:49,636 for the murder of the 20-year-old pregnant lady, 550 00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:51,271 and he's found guilty of that, 551 00:24:51,373 --> 00:24:52,772 and he gets sentenced to death. 552 00:24:52,874 --> 00:24:54,741 Do they execute this rat [bleep]? 553 00:24:54,843 --> 00:24:56,109 They do. 554 00:24:56,211 --> 00:24:59,212 Within a year of Kerri Sykes' death, 555 00:24:59,314 --> 00:25:01,848 Athay Brown was put to death in the Ohio Penitentiary 556 00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:03,316 at the age of 27. 557 00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:05,184 Good. He deserved it. 558 00:25:11,007 --> 00:25:12,039 The guy from outside... 559 00:25:12,141 --> 00:25:15,042 this guy in the light... 560 00:25:15,144 --> 00:25:18,946 he's in here. 561 00:25:19,048 --> 00:25:22,850 Whatever he did, he ruined people. 562 00:25:22,952 --> 00:25:24,785 He, like, took [bleep] 563 00:25:26,105 --> 00:25:29,140 And he would ruin them, like, financially. 564 00:25:29,242 --> 00:25:30,374 Then there was a major thing 565 00:25:30,476 --> 00:25:33,945 that actually killed a lot of people. 566 00:25:34,047 --> 00:25:36,154 And it ruined him. 567 00:25:36,182 --> 00:25:41,152 The dead teenage girl, he killed her. 568 00:25:41,254 --> 00:25:42,987 He's damned because of what he did. 569 00:25:43,089 --> 00:25:45,156 He caused a lot of people to die. 570 00:25:51,064 --> 00:25:52,964 AMY: I saw several dead people during my walk, 571 00:25:53,066 --> 00:25:54,832 but two stood out the most. 572 00:25:54,935 --> 00:25:57,168 First, the old man in the basement. 573 00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:59,304 He has thick, white hair, 574 00:25:59,406 --> 00:26:02,740 and it's parted. 575 00:26:02,842 --> 00:26:08,446 His nose was very, very large. 576 00:26:08,548 --> 00:26:10,682 Next, I describe the dead teenage girl 577 00:26:10,784 --> 00:26:12,850 talking to a living woman. 578 00:26:12,953 --> 00:26:15,553 It was in a bedroom. 579 00:26:20,293 --> 00:26:22,727 She is in the process of decomposing. 580 00:26:26,634 --> 00:26:29,635 Amy, is this what you saw? 581 00:26:29,737 --> 00:26:31,403 Yes, that's what I saw. 582 00:26:51,199 --> 00:26:54,005 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 583 00:26:54,105 --> 00:26:55,471 we're ready to reveal our findings 584 00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:57,073 to each other and our clients 585 00:26:57,175 --> 00:26:58,341 for the first time. 586 00:26:58,443 --> 00:27:02,378 Well, Amy, this is William and this is Annette. 587 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,881 These guys are all about one thing... family... 588 00:27:04,983 --> 00:27:06,048 and they have a big one, 589 00:27:06,151 --> 00:27:08,885 seven kids, including Nikki here, 590 00:27:08,987 --> 00:27:11,587 and 11 grandchildren. 591 00:27:11,689 --> 00:27:13,456 And that's the reason they called us in. 592 00:27:13,558 --> 00:27:15,291 The activity here is so bad, 593 00:27:15,393 --> 00:27:17,493 it's tearing the family apart. 594 00:27:17,595 --> 00:27:19,862 No one wants to be here, 595 00:27:19,964 --> 00:27:22,465 and the kids are worried that Annette and William 596 00:27:22,567 --> 00:27:23,933 are in danger. 597 00:27:24,035 --> 00:27:25,835 Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 598 00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:27,906 I'm going to ask her to describe her walk. 599 00:27:32,075 --> 00:27:33,908 AMY: So the worst place for me in the house 600 00:27:34,010 --> 00:27:36,711 was when I went into the basement 601 00:27:36,813 --> 00:27:38,679 and I became, like, 602 00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:42,750 extremely anxious and, like, overwhelming panic. 603 00:27:42,852 --> 00:27:45,019 And I saw this man there. 604 00:27:45,121 --> 00:27:47,055 And he apparently is, 605 00:27:47,157 --> 00:27:50,654 like, reliving his death over and over and over again. 606 00:27:51,027 --> 00:27:54,429 I didn't know how anybody could go down there and, 607 00:27:54,531 --> 00:27:55,997 like, do laundry or anything 608 00:27:56,099 --> 00:27:59,167 because his energy is so negative. 609 00:27:59,269 --> 00:28:01,436 You just feel horrible. 610 00:28:01,538 --> 00:28:04,165 And also I think that 611 00:28:04,265 --> 00:28:07,666 anybody alive would feel extremely drained, 612 00:28:07,768 --> 00:28:11,503 and they would feel like a sense of, like, impending doom. 613 00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:15,174 A lot of our family have had experiences in the basement 614 00:28:15,276 --> 00:28:18,041 in seeing a man in that area. 615 00:28:18,223 --> 00:28:20,123 I was in the basement, 616 00:28:20,225 --> 00:28:21,357 and I woke up, 617 00:28:21,459 --> 00:28:23,760 and I saw this man coming down the stairs. 618 00:28:23,862 --> 00:28:25,161 And you were sleeping down there? 619 00:28:25,263 --> 00:28:26,829 That was it for me. 620 00:28:26,931 --> 00:28:29,165 I think that things like that only 621 00:28:29,267 --> 00:28:32,035 happen to people in the movies, 622 00:28:32,137 --> 00:28:35,405 and it's terrifying to even see it and feel it... 623 00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:39,609 and to be in your family's house and experience it. 624 00:28:39,711 --> 00:28:41,477 All right, so we know this guy's causing problems. 625 00:28:41,579 --> 00:28:43,112 Any idea who he was? 626 00:28:43,214 --> 00:28:47,550 AMY: I thought that this man owns this house, 627 00:28:47,652 --> 00:28:51,454 that he died in the house. 628 00:28:51,556 --> 00:28:53,056 I'm not sure how he died, 629 00:28:53,158 --> 00:28:56,726 but I was feeling like an aneurysm or a stroke. 630 00:28:56,828 --> 00:28:59,429 I got that he was within the last 30 years. 631 00:28:59,531 --> 00:29:02,398 He was 68 years old when he died. 632 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:03,533 Wow. 633 00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:07,070 - And he had thick, white hair. - Wow. 634 00:29:07,172 --> 00:29:09,672 I don't have to think too long about this one. 635 00:29:09,774 --> 00:29:12,342 Now you said the guy you saw owned the home, 636 00:29:12,444 --> 00:29:16,112 died in the home, and died at the age of 68. 637 00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:18,114 Now, the first owner of the house 638 00:29:18,216 --> 00:29:21,017 was this guy named Valentine Carpozi. 639 00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,221 Well, in 1978, Valentine, at the age of 66, 640 00:29:25,323 --> 00:29:28,491 has a massive heart attack in the living room here. 641 00:29:28,593 --> 00:29:30,312 And was declared dead an hour later. 642 00:29:30,412 --> 00:29:31,844 Mmm, mmm, mmm. 643 00:29:31,946 --> 00:29:35,348 Now, I do have his death certificate here. 644 00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:37,350 He officially died at the hospital, 645 00:29:37,452 --> 00:29:39,185 but in my experience, when somebody 646 00:29:39,287 --> 00:29:40,553 has a massive heart attack, 647 00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,588 - they're usually dead right away. - Right. 648 00:29:42,691 --> 00:29:45,658 Now I did manage to track down a photo of him 649 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,561 with his second wife, Eleanor. 650 00:29:49,394 --> 00:29:51,795 What do you think when you see the photo? 651 00:29:51,897 --> 00:29:54,164 Well, I did have a sketch of him. 652 00:29:58,904 --> 00:30:00,403 I'm pretty sure this is the same guy, 653 00:30:00,505 --> 00:30:01,704 but you guys tell me. 654 00:30:01,807 --> 00:30:03,306 Take a look at the photo and the sketch together. 655 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:07,944 Yep. 656 00:30:08,046 --> 00:30:09,045 It resembles the guy that I saw. 657 00:30:09,147 --> 00:30:14,250 That could be the person that's looking in on me. 658 00:30:14,352 --> 00:30:20,023 AMY: So there are two separate deceased females 659 00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:23,927 that are in the house and are active. 660 00:30:24,029 --> 00:30:26,463 What I got was that they're both murder victims. 661 00:30:26,565 --> 00:30:28,565 One of the females 662 00:30:28,667 --> 00:30:33,403 is mentally ill and stuck in her death state, 663 00:30:33,505 --> 00:30:38,708 and she's reliving the pain of her murder over and over again. 664 00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:39,976 I'm thinking, well, 665 00:30:40,078 --> 00:30:42,745 it may be a stab wound, gunshot, I'm not sure. 666 00:30:42,848 --> 00:30:45,448 All I know is that she bled out. 667 00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:47,317 The other female is a teenager. 668 00:30:47,419 --> 00:30:50,620 Her body is decomposing, she has like a bluish-gray, 669 00:30:50,722 --> 00:30:52,956 you know, hue. 670 00:30:53,058 --> 00:30:56,226 And with her, I felt sharp neck pains, 671 00:30:56,328 --> 00:30:59,262 so I'm thinking she might have been stabbed there. 672 00:30:59,364 --> 00:31:01,030 The thing that I found disturbing 673 00:31:01,132 --> 00:31:04,901 about these two females was that they can't leave. 674 00:31:05,003 --> 00:31:09,639 And I actually saw leashes strapped around them. 675 00:31:09,741 --> 00:31:13,877 What I got was that at some point in this house, 676 00:31:13,979 --> 00:31:16,279 somebody was playing with the occult 677 00:31:16,381 --> 00:31:18,848 or some type of witchcraft. 678 00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:22,752 May have been using Ouija boards or doing seances, 679 00:31:22,854 --> 00:31:24,954 and they might not be aware, 680 00:31:25,056 --> 00:31:28,157 but they inadvertently trapped these two females 681 00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:29,726 and made an attachment to them. 682 00:31:29,828 --> 00:31:31,861 Oh, my God. 683 00:31:31,963 --> 00:31:33,763 Now, everybody in the family 684 00:31:33,865 --> 00:31:37,300 that I spoke to said that they've never messed 685 00:31:37,402 --> 00:31:38,902 with anything like that. 686 00:31:39,004 --> 00:31:43,773 But one of the previous owners of your home did. 687 00:31:43,875 --> 00:31:46,609 And that's Valentine's second wife, Eleanor. 688 00:31:46,711 --> 00:31:50,813 After Valentine died, she lived here for 21 years alone. 689 00:31:50,916 --> 00:31:53,249 Eleanor was, from what I was told, religious. 690 00:31:53,351 --> 00:31:54,751 So I met with her pastor. 691 00:31:54,853 --> 00:31:56,352 This is where it gets interesting. 692 00:31:56,454 --> 00:31:59,489 The church identifies as Christian, but also believes 693 00:31:59,591 --> 00:32:01,257 - in the paranormal. - What? 694 00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,661 They try to communicate with the dead during the services. 695 00:32:04,763 --> 00:32:05,695 Oh, boy. 696 00:32:05,797 --> 00:32:07,130 Could this be the woman 697 00:32:07,232 --> 00:32:09,632 that you think might have been communicating with the dead? 698 00:32:09,734 --> 00:32:10,633 Yes. 699 00:32:10,735 --> 00:32:13,536 It makes a lot of sense. 700 00:32:13,638 --> 00:32:15,772 So let me ask a question, what are these two dead women 701 00:32:15,874 --> 00:32:17,073 doing in the house? 702 00:32:17,175 --> 00:32:21,052 They spend most of their time in the back two bedrooms 703 00:32:21,152 --> 00:32:22,652 to the right. 704 00:32:22,754 --> 00:32:26,155 Okay, so that's William Jr.'s room and their master bedroom. 705 00:32:26,257 --> 00:32:27,557 Okay. 706 00:32:27,659 --> 00:32:32,228 They do inadvertently interact with the living a bit. 707 00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:36,666 I would think that you guys would occasionally see them. 708 00:32:36,768 --> 00:32:38,734 They're rather vocal. 709 00:32:38,836 --> 00:32:43,306 I would think that you guys would hear voices. 710 00:32:43,408 --> 00:32:46,075 Now, we could talk about the woman you saw in the basement. 711 00:32:46,177 --> 00:32:47,279 - Mm-hmm. - Describe it to Amy. 712 00:32:47,379 --> 00:32:50,680 She was a short lady with long white hair 713 00:32:50,782 --> 00:32:54,484 and a long white gown. 714 00:32:54,586 --> 00:32:55,919 It scared the hell out of me. 715 00:32:56,021 --> 00:32:59,422 Have any of you heard, like, voices at night? 716 00:32:59,524 --> 00:33:01,958 Their son, William Jr., did before he moved out. 717 00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:03,760 He couldn't take all the activity. 718 00:33:03,862 --> 00:33:07,464 Wow. 719 00:33:07,566 --> 00:33:11,634 The younger dead girl likes to spend a lot of time 720 00:33:11,737 --> 00:33:14,204 in the master bedroom. 721 00:33:14,306 --> 00:33:16,606 I saw her sitting on the floor 722 00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:20,810 and talking to the female in the bed. 723 00:33:20,912 --> 00:33:24,447 The living person may not know that this is happening 724 00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:28,418 because it would seem like more like sleep talking. 725 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,521 We didn't share that. 726 00:33:31,623 --> 00:33:36,993 That for the past two years 727 00:33:37,095 --> 00:33:39,996 I've started talking in my sleep. 728 00:33:40,098 --> 00:33:45,969 And William says I have a full conversation that wakes him up. 729 00:33:46,071 --> 00:33:48,171 I drew a sketch 730 00:33:48,273 --> 00:33:54,577 of what I saw happening between these two individuals. 731 00:33:54,679 --> 00:33:56,079 Are you guys ready for this? 732 00:33:56,181 --> 00:34:00,550 [Chuckles] 733 00:34:00,652 --> 00:34:02,727 You're gonna be shocked when you see this. 734 00:34:05,404 --> 00:34:07,122 God. 735 00:34:11,188 --> 00:34:13,155 That's exactly what I saw. 736 00:34:13,257 --> 00:34:14,323 It's when she turned, 737 00:34:14,425 --> 00:34:16,725 her face was like a gargoyle or something. 738 00:34:16,827 --> 00:34:19,194 It was exactly what I saw. 739 00:34:19,296 --> 00:34:23,832 And that's your only conscious interaction that you recall? 740 00:34:23,934 --> 00:34:26,702 Other than my name being called. 741 00:34:26,804 --> 00:34:28,070 Okay, okay. 742 00:34:28,172 --> 00:34:30,906 Like, someone's always trying to get my attention. 743 00:34:31,008 --> 00:34:32,913 I'm getting the hell out of this house. 744 00:34:37,221 --> 00:34:39,418 AMY: The last person I encountered 745 00:34:39,518 --> 00:34:42,485 really concerned me. 746 00:34:42,587 --> 00:34:44,354 The first time I saw him, 747 00:34:44,456 --> 00:34:46,656 it was really weird because 748 00:34:46,758 --> 00:34:50,460 he surrounds himself with light. 749 00:34:50,562 --> 00:34:53,630 I come downstairs about 8:00 in the morning, 750 00:34:53,732 --> 00:34:59,502 and... a body over light... 751 00:34:59,604 --> 00:35:03,840 like, sparkles... tons of them coming up the steps. 752 00:35:03,942 --> 00:35:06,476 When I come down, it stopped, and I stopped, 753 00:35:06,578 --> 00:35:08,578 - and we're staring at each other. - Wow. 754 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,381 But my whole body was just shaking. 755 00:35:11,483 --> 00:35:13,082 So what else does this guy do? 756 00:35:13,185 --> 00:35:15,118 He figures out 757 00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:18,054 what means the most to the people in the house, 758 00:35:18,156 --> 00:35:19,422 what they love the most, 759 00:35:19,524 --> 00:35:22,192 what they're most passionate about, 760 00:35:22,294 --> 00:35:25,528 and then he tries to take it away from them. 761 00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:29,098 Now, what's the one thing that would destroy your life? 762 00:35:29,201 --> 00:35:31,935 Losing my family. 763 00:35:32,037 --> 00:35:34,771 Is that what he's trying to do? 764 00:35:34,873 --> 00:35:40,376 What I saw was that he would smush himself down 765 00:35:40,478 --> 00:35:42,679 and then raise up from the ground. 766 00:35:42,781 --> 00:35:45,048 When he does that kind of stuff, 767 00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:48,284 the dead women freak out. 768 00:35:48,386 --> 00:35:51,221 And what I saw was just like pandemonium. 769 00:35:51,323 --> 00:35:53,690 I'm like, I think that the living here would feel 770 00:35:53,792 --> 00:35:57,560 like this chaos, this movement of people rushing around. 771 00:35:57,662 --> 00:36:00,129 And that's when he's... 772 00:36:00,232 --> 00:36:03,499 he's in the room doing that. 773 00:36:03,602 --> 00:36:05,835 Tell her your number one complaint about the footsteps. 774 00:36:05,937 --> 00:36:08,104 We can be in the basement, and you hear... 775 00:36:08,206 --> 00:36:11,274 [Stamping feet] That loud. 776 00:36:11,376 --> 00:36:15,745 The first time we heard it, we thought someone had broke in. 777 00:36:15,847 --> 00:36:18,014 I brought in a pest control specialist just to check it out, 778 00:36:18,116 --> 00:36:20,149 to be on the safe side. 779 00:36:20,252 --> 00:36:22,748 He didn't find a thing. 780 00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:27,491 So this guy with the lights, any clue who he was in life? 781 00:36:27,593 --> 00:36:30,127 He was not a good person when he was alive. 782 00:36:30,229 --> 00:36:31,929 He said that he ruined people, 783 00:36:32,031 --> 00:36:34,765 he was a thief, that he would take things from people... 784 00:36:34,867 --> 00:36:36,300 like their land or business. 785 00:36:36,402 --> 00:36:40,070 He also caused a lot of people to die. 786 00:36:40,172 --> 00:36:45,042 At one point, the younger girl 787 00:36:45,144 --> 00:36:50,013 pointed at him and said that he was the one who murdered her. 788 00:36:50,115 --> 00:36:56,019 He believes that the situation that he's in now is hell. 789 00:36:57,890 --> 00:37:01,475 He wants out, but he feels like he's damned himself. 790 00:37:02,831 --> 00:37:04,409 I came across somebody in my research 791 00:37:04,511 --> 00:37:06,745 that may fit the bill about who she's talking about. 792 00:37:06,847 --> 00:37:08,613 A notorious gangster, actually, 793 00:37:08,715 --> 00:37:12,217 that terrorized this area in 1932. 794 00:37:12,319 --> 00:37:14,486 His name was Athay Brown. 795 00:37:14,588 --> 00:37:18,256 I've actually got a photo of him. 796 00:37:18,358 --> 00:37:19,524 He worked with his wife, Rose, 797 00:37:19,626 --> 00:37:23,328 and a couple other gang members in the area here. 798 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:26,831 Now, in a six-month span, they committed 40 robberies 799 00:37:26,934 --> 00:37:28,934 and murdered four people that we know of. 800 00:37:29,036 --> 00:37:30,302 What?! 801 00:37:30,404 --> 00:37:33,138 Now, Brown and his crew, 802 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,309 back on August 30, 1932, 803 00:37:37,411 --> 00:37:39,278 hit a home about 100 yards from this house. 804 00:37:39,504 --> 00:37:42,371 The woman who lived there, Kerri Sykes, was a psychic. 805 00:37:42,473 --> 00:37:45,508 She had an elderly friend over. 806 00:37:45,610 --> 00:37:46,976 When she opened the door, 807 00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,578 they pulled out their guns, brought them into the basement, 808 00:37:49,681 --> 00:37:50,713 tied them up. 809 00:37:50,815 --> 00:37:53,082 While the guys were ransacking the house, 810 00:37:53,184 --> 00:37:56,118 Kerri wound up dying of a heart attack in the basement. 811 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:58,521 Five weeks later, 812 00:37:58,623 --> 00:38:03,859 he broke into a gang member's house to kill him for snitching. 813 00:38:03,962 --> 00:38:06,862 Instead, he accidentally shot and killed 814 00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:09,632 the guy's 20-year-old pregnant wife. 815 00:38:09,734 --> 00:38:12,468 Her name was Francis Holt. 816 00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:15,738 And I got her death certificate as well. 817 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,840 He was convicted of first-degree murder. 818 00:38:17,942 --> 00:38:19,499 On March 10, 1933, 819 00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,600 Athay was electrocuted at the Ohio State Penitentiary. 820 00:38:22,702 --> 00:38:25,636 Now, he was only 27 years old. 821 00:38:25,739 --> 00:38:29,574 I don't think we'll know for sure 822 00:38:29,676 --> 00:38:32,210 if it's this man, but it's possible. 823 00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:36,013 All right, so, we don't know who the guy is, 824 00:38:36,116 --> 00:38:40,218 but what does he want with our beautiful family here? 825 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,189 His thing is is that he wants to hurt people here. 826 00:38:45,291 --> 00:38:49,961 His purpose being that he needs to destroy. 827 00:38:50,063 --> 00:38:52,063 I'm terrified. 828 00:38:52,165 --> 00:38:54,699 How much more that we can take of this? 829 00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:56,200 It's destroying my family. 830 00:38:56,302 --> 00:38:59,370 Things are just out of whack here. 831 00:39:13,068 --> 00:39:14,367 STEVE: Annette, when we first met, 832 00:39:14,469 --> 00:39:17,529 you told me your motto is don't mess with my family or my home. 833 00:39:17,629 --> 00:39:18,594 Yes. 834 00:39:18,696 --> 00:39:20,963 Now we know what's been messing with both. 835 00:39:21,065 --> 00:39:24,801 The question is can you kick out the rat [bleep] 836 00:39:24,903 --> 00:39:26,836 That's responsible for trying to destroy your family 837 00:39:26,938 --> 00:39:29,739 and get your life back the way you guys want it to be? 838 00:39:29,841 --> 00:39:34,277 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 839 00:39:34,379 --> 00:39:37,780 AMY: You could move. 840 00:39:37,882 --> 00:39:41,584 That would be really the easiest thing to do. 841 00:39:41,686 --> 00:39:44,720 But there would still be all this mess 842 00:39:44,823 --> 00:39:47,924 here for the next people. 843 00:39:48,026 --> 00:39:50,092 But if you're really determined to stay, 844 00:39:50,195 --> 00:39:55,665 what needs to be done would be to reach out to the pastor... 845 00:39:55,767 --> 00:39:56,833 Mm-hmm. 846 00:39:56,935 --> 00:39:58,568 Of this church 847 00:39:58,670 --> 00:40:02,338 and have him create a team 848 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,174 of his best sensitives. 849 00:40:05,276 --> 00:40:10,146 And, basically, they would have it out with Eleanor. 850 00:40:10,248 --> 00:40:12,148 Fight fire with fire. 851 00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:14,584 Once she's removed, 852 00:40:14,686 --> 00:40:19,088 the two dead women will be able to move on. 853 00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:24,026 But her husband would need more assistance 854 00:40:24,128 --> 00:40:30,132 because he's so confused by what's going on. 855 00:40:30,235 --> 00:40:31,767 Once that's been done, 856 00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:36,305 then the killer, obviously, needs to be addressed. 857 00:40:36,407 --> 00:40:39,442 And what would happen there would be 858 00:40:39,544 --> 00:40:43,980 the sensitives would actually summon him and let him know 859 00:40:44,082 --> 00:40:46,515 that he's able to leave. 860 00:40:46,618 --> 00:40:50,019 The only good thing about him is that he actually 861 00:40:50,121 --> 00:40:51,854 does want to go, 862 00:40:51,956 --> 00:40:56,200 but he's made himself believe he can't. 863 00:40:56,962 --> 00:40:58,828 William, what are you thinking? 864 00:40:58,930 --> 00:41:02,031 Move. 865 00:41:02,134 --> 00:41:05,068 Even if we did get rid of stuff like that, man, 866 00:41:05,170 --> 00:41:07,203 it's just too much still. 867 00:41:07,305 --> 00:41:09,706 You know, you'd still be like, 868 00:41:09,808 --> 00:41:11,508 "Is it still here?" 869 00:41:11,610 --> 00:41:12,876 In the back of our minds, it would be like... 870 00:41:12,978 --> 00:41:14,944 - You're traumatized. - Yeah. 871 00:41:16,357 --> 00:41:19,263 Well, Annette, we know how William and Nikki feel. 872 00:41:19,363 --> 00:41:21,063 You still want to fight, though? 873 00:41:21,165 --> 00:41:24,467 This is my home. I've been here almost 15 years. 874 00:41:24,569 --> 00:41:27,403 I've poured my heart and soul into this. 875 00:41:28,663 --> 00:41:30,796 This is the heart of the matter. 876 00:41:31,681 --> 00:41:34,214 But in order to get my family back, 877 00:41:34,316 --> 00:41:36,183 I'm willing to do anything. 878 00:41:36,614 --> 00:41:38,580 AMY: I wish I had better news for Annette and her family. 879 00:41:38,682 --> 00:41:41,674 But leaving this house is their best option. 880 00:41:41,774 --> 00:41:44,241 If they're not able to move right away, 881 00:41:44,343 --> 00:41:45,842 their only hope is to contact the pastor 882 00:41:45,867 --> 00:41:49,233 to free themselves of the dead trapped inside their home. 883 00:41:49,283 --> 00:41:53,833 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 66583

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