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This is weird. There's a problem here.
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She turned her head, and it
was like this demonic face.
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WOMAN: Big impact in
his stomach. Ooh, ooh!
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Do they execute this rat [bleep]?
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They do.
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WOMAN: He ruins people.
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He caused a lot of people to die.
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I feel like there's a
presence inside this house.
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They're, like, trying to fight for life.
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Trying to run from death.
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There's a dark presence.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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These things, they're freaking out.
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They're from hell.
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I see dead people.
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They were being hunted.
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I speak to dead people.
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They were setting people
on fire, burning them alive.
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And they speak to me.
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Her neck got broken.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I hear a gunshot.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Something's not right here.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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It's not safe here. It's
my job to reveal them.
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Are any of them buried on the property?
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They're all buried here.
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AMY: But Steve and I never speak.
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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I can't do it no more.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Holy [bleep] Look at this!
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Or time to get out.
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It does not have a happy ending.
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Something kills people here.
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I'm in Richmond Heights, Ohio,
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it's a small town about
15 miles east of Cleveland.
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I got a call from a woman named Annette.
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She's a feisty lady,
not scared of anything...
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except what's in her house.
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She says what's going
on has gotten so bad,
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it's ripping her large family apart.
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She sounded pretty upset,
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and I'm hoping we can help her out.
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MAN: Before Amy arrives,
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I clear the house of
any leading information.
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Family photos and religious items
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must be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: Oh, boy.
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There's a female.
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She is not mentally sound.
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And she's basically
screaming for her life.
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So she's always in the process of dying.
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And it's due to a
gunshot or a stab wound.
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I'm also seeing this dead teenage girl.
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Her hair is very long,
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and like, really dirty.
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And she is decomposing.
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What I see is a man in the shadows.
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She points to him, and she said,
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"You murdered me."
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And then I get a really super sharp pain
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right here in my neck.
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And I'm thinking, like,
he might have stabbed her.
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STEVE: So, Annette,
you sounded really upset
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when we spoke on the phone.
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What the hell's going on?
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My family means everything to me,
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and this house is
tearing our family apart.
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I mean, I've always been a strong woman,
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and I always told everyone,
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"Do not mess with my husband,
my family, or my home."
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This is just something I can't handle.
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What exactly are people experiencing?
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From unexplained noises, sounds
of footsteps all over the house.
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Seeing apparitions,
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and, here, lately,
being physically touched.
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Okay. So who exactly lives here?
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Currently, just my husband and I.
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- I know you have a big family.
- I do.
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I have seven children
and 11 grandchildren.
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This is my family.
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WE have five daughters and two sons.
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How long have you guys lived here?
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For about 15 years now.
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What prompted you to
call us now, though?
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My son, who came home from the Army,
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he stayed with us for a while,
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but that activity increased so much,
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and he decided to leave.
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My grandchildren do not
want to spend the night here.
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If they come over,
it's during the daytime,
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and they're out of
here before nightfall.
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Annette, I'm curious about your husband.
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How's he feel about this whole thing?
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I called you guys,
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and, you know, it
started some arguments.
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This is his family, he should
be able to fix it, so...
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Is he okay with us being here?
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He knows I feel strongly about this.
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I need my life back,
I need my family back.
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I want my home back.
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AMY: My goodness.
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Okay.
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I'm getting a lot of people
talking to me at once.
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Somebody who lives here,
I think it's a male.
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There's somebody in this house
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who does not want us to be doing this,
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thinks it's bad,
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it's gonna stir [bleep] up.
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So this is a living person.
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Yeah. That's here.
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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He's a control freak,
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and he thinks he's got
it all under control
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and he's, like, the man of the house,
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and you know,
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he can protect his own kind of thing.
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Like, you know, I don't
need your guys' help.
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You don't need to be here.
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This is where some of the
worst experiences have happened.
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Okay, like what?
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At night, there's a male figure
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that I see standing in that hallway.
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And he stands there as though,
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he's, like, keeping guard or
watching over and looking in
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and checking in.
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Okay, is it something
you can see through
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- or is it solid?
- It's solid.
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It's like a dark man with all black on.
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You ever think about
shutting the door at night?
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No.
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You might want to start doing that.
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I don't want to be
locked in here with it.
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Mmm.
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All right, anything else?
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I hear this voice call my name.
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Several times, I've, like, responded,
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thinking it was someone here,
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and then realizing, "Wait a
minute, I'm here by myself."
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Is it a male voice or a female voice?
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Female voice.
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Could the TV have been on?
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No.
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Okay. Anything else?
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Yeah, another time, I
was laying in bed here,
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and this demonic female form was
sitting at the foot of my bed.
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I woke up and I saw it, 'cause
I felt it actually sit down.
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She turned her head, and it
was like this demonic face.
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Like, a beige tone, brown tone gargoyle.
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Okay.
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Like something out of a scary movie.
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It was just something
that was terrifying.
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AMY: The dead teenage
girl comes in here a lot.
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She likes it in here a lot.
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And there's a connection between
her and the person in this room.
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There is communication
there, 'cause I see, like,
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the dead girl, like sitting
here in the middle of the floor.
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And she's talking to somebody.
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There's a relationship.
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This is her safe space, her safe area.
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She really likes this person.
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But because she's dying all the time,
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this person might feel really
weird aches and pains...
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through their body, their joints.
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Obviously, it's not healthy.
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So it's almost like
she's becoming a zombie.
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So, William, I spoke to Annette.
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And she's still pretty upset
about the stuff going on.
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Are you happy we're here?
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No.
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Why?
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'Cause I didn't know
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nothing about you all.
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It could have made
something worse or, you know.
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Do you believe in any of this stuff?
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- Well, I do now.
- You do?
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Yes. So I gotta assume by that answer,
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- you've had experiences.
- Yes.
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Okay, can you tell
me about some of them?
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Okay, yeah, I was in
the basement watching TV.
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And out of the corner of my eyes,
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I seen a lady up on the wall,
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coming down the steps.
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What did she look like?
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She was a little short white
lady with long, white hair
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and a long, white gown.
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And she was walking up
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against the wall like this
and coming down the steps.
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And just looking at me like,
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"Do he see me?" It
ain't like I'm asleep.
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I'm sitting there looking at
her, and saying, "Oh, my God!"
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Man, that's a little strange.
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Anything else?
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One night, we were
sitting in the basement,
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and seemed like somebody
done broke in or something
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because this...
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it was so loud on that floor.
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We looked around.
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Nothing.
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- You guys have dogs?
- No.
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Okay, you ever check for rodents?
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- Uh, no.
- Okay.
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Um, so anything else?
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Yeah, I was coming down the
steps about 8:00 in the morning.
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And seen a body of flashing lights,
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like a thousand flashing
lights, all in one body,
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trickling, coming at me.
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Okay, so let me get
this description right.
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This is the first time I'm
hearing something like this.
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Okay. Big round...
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Round, like that, yeah.
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About as long as your body.
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- Really?
- Yes.
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Almost knocked me down
it scared me so bad.
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[Amy sighs]
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Oh, boy.
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I see, like, this guy, who,
I'm assuming, is not good.
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I don't know how he's
manifesting this weird light.
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And I think that the living
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would probably see this weird light.
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It wouldn't be like the whole room
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would be filled with this light,
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it would be like kind of a cut-out.
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So, the guy from outside,
this guy in the light,
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he's in here.
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He ruins people.
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How.
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He does, like, an analysis
of the people in the house,
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and then he just takes
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whatever's most valuable to them.
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So if a man's wife
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is the most valuable
thing, he'll destroy that.
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He wants out of here, and
he can't get out of here.
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I guess he thinks this is his hell.
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Mom said that you had
recently moved back,
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but then you moved
out. What was the story?
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I had a tour over in Afghanistan,
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and when I had got back, I
was here about five months.
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Now, did you leave because of
what's going on in the house?
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- Yes.
- Explain to me how
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a guy like you, who's
been in combat conditions,
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could be driven out of a house.
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Well, one time I was laying in bed,
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and I heard a conversation
going on between two females.
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Were you able to make
out what they were saying?
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I was not able to make
out what they were saying.
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It sounded like a real
muffled conversation.
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I thought that maybe my mom
had stayed home from work.
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Okay, was Mom home?
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No, no one was home.
259
00:11:51,976 --> 00:11:53,542
Okay, what about the TV being on?
260
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Then that was my second thought.
261
00:11:55,279 --> 00:11:58,380
Until I opened my door
to use the restroom
262
00:11:58,482 --> 00:12:01,717
and the conversation between
the two females stopped.
263
00:12:01,819 --> 00:12:03,352
Okay, anything else?
264
00:12:03,454 --> 00:12:06,622
There feels like there's a
presence inside this house
265
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at certain times.
266
00:12:08,192 --> 00:12:10,192
I'd say when I'm walking up the stairs,
267
00:12:10,294 --> 00:12:11,894
I feel like something's behind me.
268
00:12:11,996 --> 00:12:14,897
Feels like something is
immediately coming after me.
269
00:12:14,999 --> 00:12:16,131
There's been many instances
270
00:12:16,233 --> 00:12:19,201
where I've slept outside in the car.
271
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Yeah, I don't want to
be inside this house.
272
00:12:21,772 --> 00:12:23,172
All right, so let me ask you a question,
273
00:12:23,274 --> 00:12:24,640
- would you sleep here alone?
- No, never.
274
00:12:24,742 --> 00:12:27,509
I wouldn't stay a
night here again...
275
00:12:27,611 --> 00:12:28,711
with our without people here.
276
00:12:28,813 --> 00:12:30,185
So it's not happening.
277
00:12:35,152 --> 00:12:36,758
AMY: The two murdered women are in here,
278
00:12:36,858 --> 00:12:38,791
and they're literally,
279
00:12:38,893 --> 00:12:43,062
like, pacing around
at the end of this bed.
280
00:12:43,164 --> 00:12:45,097
The living can see them,
281
00:12:45,199 --> 00:12:49,235
and the one who's crazy
282
00:12:49,337 --> 00:12:52,338
is making these people crazy.
283
00:12:53,134 --> 00:12:55,000
That would be like, you know,
284
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loss of focus, hearing
voices, hallucinations.
285
00:13:01,075 --> 00:13:05,578
Extreme depression
Extreme depression.
286
00:13:13,721 --> 00:13:15,120
STEVE: So, Nikki, I was talking to Mom.
287
00:13:15,223 --> 00:13:16,989
It's heartbreaking listening
to her talk about how family
288
00:13:17,091 --> 00:13:19,325
is just torn apart by
what's going on here.
289
00:13:19,427 --> 00:13:20,659
Nobody wants to come here.
290
00:13:20,761 --> 00:13:22,528
Nobody wants to come here.
291
00:13:22,630 --> 00:13:24,697
We travel from Georgia to come up here,
292
00:13:24,799 --> 00:13:27,566
- and usually we just get a hotel.
- Really?
293
00:13:27,668 --> 00:13:31,403
We'd rather pay money to go to a hotel
294
00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:33,205
then to stay in this house.
295
00:13:33,307 --> 00:13:34,740
Okay, so it sounds like you've had
296
00:13:34,842 --> 00:13:36,208
some pretty bad experiences here.
297
00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:37,476
Yeah.
298
00:13:37,578 --> 00:13:39,078
I just get the feeling of panic
299
00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:40,679
when I walk into this house.
300
00:13:40,781 --> 00:13:43,315
It's this feeling of being overwhelmed
301
00:13:43,417 --> 00:13:47,519
when you know that
something might just happen.
302
00:13:47,622 --> 00:13:49,488
- I'm nervous now.
- I can see it.
303
00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:51,090
It feels like I need to leave,
304
00:13:51,192 --> 00:13:52,625
like something was just,
305
00:13:52,727 --> 00:13:54,994
like, "Get out of this house."
306
00:13:55,096 --> 00:13:57,529
But have you actually
experienced anything?
307
00:13:57,632 --> 00:13:59,413
I was would sleep in the den,
308
00:13:59,513 --> 00:14:01,747
and I woke up from out of my sleep,
309
00:14:01,849 --> 00:14:04,283
and I saw something come downstairs.
310
00:14:04,385 --> 00:14:05,584
It was this tall man.
311
00:14:05,686 --> 00:14:07,922
When I saw him, we looked at each other,
312
00:14:08,022 --> 00:14:10,923
and then he backed up, then
went back up the stairs.
313
00:14:11,025 --> 00:14:12,658
Could you describe what he looked like?
314
00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,060
Tall guy. He might have been white.
315
00:14:15,162 --> 00:14:16,795
Maybe his fifties.
316
00:14:16,897 --> 00:14:18,230
You don't have to, you know,
317
00:14:18,332 --> 00:14:20,732
keep scaring me in
order for me to get it.
318
00:14:20,835 --> 00:14:23,492
I get it, I saw you,
you saw me, it's... no.
319
00:14:23,592 --> 00:14:24,491
Game over.
320
00:14:24,593 --> 00:14:26,426
That's it.
321
00:14:26,528 --> 00:14:27,761
I want everybody to be safe.
322
00:14:27,863 --> 00:14:29,630
I want this thing out of here.
323
00:14:32,401 --> 00:14:34,535
Hmm.
324
00:14:34,637 --> 00:14:36,503
Hmm.
325
00:14:36,606 --> 00:14:38,839
It's a male.
326
00:14:38,941 --> 00:14:40,274
This is like a panic.
327
00:14:40,376 --> 00:14:42,653
I'm so panicked.
328
00:14:44,852 --> 00:14:46,819
Panicked, panicked.
329
00:14:47,641 --> 00:14:49,541
Trying to fight for life.
330
00:14:49,643 --> 00:14:50,775
Trying to fight death.
331
00:14:50,878 --> 00:14:53,678
Trying to run from death.
332
00:14:53,780 --> 00:14:56,681
It's awful. My brain is being affected.
333
00:14:56,783 --> 00:14:58,817
I can't talk right.
334
00:14:58,919 --> 00:15:04,389
Feel sick, horrible, nauseous.
335
00:15:04,491 --> 00:15:08,693
I think the living would feel this.
336
00:15:08,795 --> 00:15:12,197
They would feel massive
amounts of panic down here.
337
00:15:12,299 --> 00:15:15,200
And then feeling like impending doom.
338
00:15:21,875 --> 00:15:23,942
Oh, yeah, it feels worse in here.
339
00:15:24,044 --> 00:15:25,710
Oof! Ooh!
340
00:15:25,812 --> 00:15:29,314
I don't understand
anybody coming down here.
341
00:15:29,416 --> 00:15:34,319
There's like a crushing, crushing pain.
342
00:15:35,389 --> 00:15:36,489
Oh, God!
343
00:15:49,307 --> 00:15:51,474
STEVE: Annette and William didn't
know much history about their home,
344
00:15:51,576 --> 00:15:53,276
so I made some calls,
and I found out a woman
345
00:15:53,378 --> 00:15:56,197
suffering from Alzheimer's
used to live in their house.
346
00:15:56,297 --> 00:15:58,698
In fact, I managed to track
down the woman's pastor,
347
00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,533
who says he knew her
and has some information
348
00:16:00,635 --> 00:16:02,668
that will definitely help my case.
349
00:16:05,907 --> 00:16:08,040
[Bell tolling]
350
00:16:08,143 --> 00:16:10,843
Pastor Hill, thanks for
meeting me, I appreciate that.
351
00:16:10,945 --> 00:16:13,546
The house I'm investigating, you
had mentioned the previous owner
352
00:16:13,648 --> 00:16:15,848
was actually a member
of your church here.
353
00:16:15,950 --> 00:16:17,850
Yes. So, Pastor, do you have any idea
354
00:16:17,952 --> 00:16:19,986
when she moved into the
house I'm investigating?
355
00:16:20,088 --> 00:16:22,121
Yes, Eleanor moved in in 1973
356
00:16:22,223 --> 00:16:26,159
when she met and married
Valentine Carpozi.
357
00:16:26,261 --> 00:16:28,961
Tragically, five years
into their marriage,
358
00:16:29,063 --> 00:16:31,831
he has a massive heart attack
on the living room floor,
359
00:16:31,933 --> 00:16:36,169
and then one hour later,
at the hospital, he dies.
360
00:16:36,271 --> 00:16:38,704
I can almost guarantee you he
was already dead in the house
361
00:16:38,807 --> 00:16:42,642
and they just moved him to the
hospital for the family's sake.
362
00:16:42,744 --> 00:16:48,047
Young guy,
too... only 66.
363
00:16:48,149 --> 00:16:51,551
AMY: That dead guy who
was trying to fight death
364
00:16:51,653 --> 00:16:54,020
died down here.
365
00:16:54,122 --> 00:16:56,055
And this was recent.
366
00:16:56,157 --> 00:16:58,090
This person died recently.
367
00:16:58,193 --> 00:16:59,225
So I think he's older.
368
00:16:59,327 --> 00:17:03,029
I think he's maybe in his sixties.
369
00:17:03,131 --> 00:17:05,998
I think he was 68.
370
00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:08,707
I want to say that this
guy, like, owned this house.
371
00:17:08,807 --> 00:17:11,407
He knew he was gonna die,
and he was trying to fight it,
372
00:17:11,509 --> 00:17:14,143
and he was, like, running
from place to place to try to,
373
00:17:14,245 --> 00:17:18,047
I guess, outrun death or something.
374
00:17:18,149 --> 00:17:19,315
Do you know how he died?
375
00:17:19,417 --> 00:17:20,983
Maybe a stroke.
376
00:17:21,086 --> 00:17:24,754
Can't move his jaw,
can't speak really well.
377
00:17:24,856 --> 00:17:27,657
His brain feels weird,
and he feels nauseous.
378
00:17:27,759 --> 00:17:29,792
This is not good. This is really bad.
379
00:17:29,894 --> 00:17:35,431
Like, he's making people
very, very, very, very sick.
380
00:17:38,192 --> 00:17:39,558
STEVE: Eleanor, did she ever re-marry?
381
00:17:39,660 --> 00:17:40,659
No.
382
00:17:40,761 --> 00:17:42,194
Okay, so how long did she
stay in the house alone?
383
00:17:42,296 --> 00:17:43,929
21 years by herself.
384
00:17:44,031 --> 00:17:44,996
What kind of woman was she?
385
00:17:45,099 --> 00:17:46,598
She was here every Sunday.
386
00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:49,501
Her faith was what got her through.
387
00:17:49,603 --> 00:17:50,736
What kind of a church is this?
388
00:17:50,838 --> 00:17:53,004
It's kind of not like any other.
389
00:17:53,107 --> 00:17:56,108
We do communicate with the dead.
390
00:17:56,210 --> 00:18:00,145
You help patrons of the church
communicate with the dead?
391
00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:02,647
- Yes.
- Wow.
392
00:18:02,750 --> 00:18:03,849
Pastor, let me ask you a question.
393
00:18:03,951 --> 00:18:05,584
The people that come
here, the congregation,
394
00:18:05,686 --> 00:18:09,254
do you think they all
have psychic abilities?
395
00:18:09,356 --> 00:18:12,157
We all are born with the abilities,
396
00:18:12,259 --> 00:18:14,760
and the people come
here to develop them.
397
00:18:14,862 --> 00:18:16,061
Okay, now, what about Eleanor?
398
00:18:16,163 --> 00:18:17,729
Do we know if she had any abilities?
399
00:18:17,831 --> 00:18:18,830
Yes.
400
00:18:18,932 --> 00:18:20,265
Eleanor would always
sit in the front here.
401
00:18:20,367 --> 00:18:21,600
She was a believer.
402
00:18:21,702 --> 00:18:24,002
Okay, so now you said she
lived there for 21 years.
403
00:18:24,104 --> 00:18:25,537
Did she die in the
house I'm investigating?
404
00:18:25,639 --> 00:18:29,641
No. In the '90s, she was
diagnosed with Alzheimer's.
405
00:18:29,743 --> 00:18:32,077
In fear of her safety, in 1999,
406
00:18:32,179 --> 00:18:35,147
they put her into an
assisted living facility.
407
00:18:35,249 --> 00:18:36,782
When does she eventually pass away?
408
00:18:36,884 --> 00:18:39,684
- December 29, 2001.
- Okay.
409
00:18:39,787 --> 00:18:42,621
And I actually have
her death certificate.
410
00:18:42,723 --> 00:18:44,189
Okay, do we know what she died of?
411
00:18:44,291 --> 00:18:45,757
- Cardiac arrest.
- She did.
412
00:18:45,859 --> 00:18:47,192
In the nursing home.
413
00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:50,996
Okay.
414
00:18:51,098 --> 00:18:55,233
AMY: What?
415
00:18:55,335 --> 00:18:56,568
The [bleep]?
416
00:18:56,670 --> 00:19:01,006
I see leashes from a woman
417
00:19:01,108 --> 00:19:03,608
to the two dead women.
418
00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:06,111
Interesting.
419
00:19:06,213 --> 00:19:07,412
I'm mad.
420
00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:11,116
Somebody here messed
with either a Ouija board
421
00:19:11,218 --> 00:19:14,486
or some seance...
some kind of [bleep].
422
00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,855
Might be practicing witchcraft.
423
00:19:16,957 --> 00:19:20,425
And they have now basically enslaved
424
00:19:20,527 --> 00:19:23,462
these two dead people...
these two dead females.
425
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,767
William told me he hears
footsteps in the house
426
00:19:27,869 --> 00:19:29,233
all the time.
427
00:19:29,637 --> 00:19:31,237
Now, sometimes people
428
00:19:31,339 --> 00:19:33,005
start blaming everything
on the paranormal.
429
00:19:33,107 --> 00:19:34,740
It could just be rodents.
430
00:19:34,842 --> 00:19:36,275
I'm heading back to the
house now to meet with
431
00:19:36,377 --> 00:19:38,877
a pest control expert to see
if that could be the case.
432
00:19:42,891 --> 00:19:44,958
Well, Jessie, thanks for
meeting me, I appreciate that.
433
00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:46,993
Everybody in the house
is hearing footsteps.
434
00:19:47,095 --> 00:19:49,762
Have you ever encountered a place
435
00:19:49,864 --> 00:19:50,997
where it could be some kind
436
00:19:51,099 --> 00:19:53,066
of an animal that could
make a noise like that?
437
00:19:53,168 --> 00:19:56,436
Usually, mostly, that's what it is.
438
00:19:56,538 --> 00:19:58,137
Now, what kind of an
animal are we talking about?
439
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,707
- Raccoons, possums.
- Okay.
440
00:20:00,809 --> 00:20:01,808
Family of squirrels.
441
00:20:01,910 --> 00:20:04,043
Okay, so if you can
find evidence of that,
442
00:20:04,145 --> 00:20:07,513
at least I could tell them
this is why you're hearing this.
443
00:20:07,616 --> 00:20:08,982
So if you can get to work on it for me,
444
00:20:09,084 --> 00:20:10,450
and I'll get back with
you when you're done.
445
00:20:10,552 --> 00:20:11,884
- I could sure do that for you.
- Okay, excellent.
446
00:20:11,987 --> 00:20:12,885
- Thank you, buddy.
- You got it.
447
00:20:12,988 --> 00:20:14,187
- Appreciate it. Thanks.
- Mm-hmm.
448
00:20:16,197 --> 00:20:17,229
STEVE: With all the bizarre sounds
449
00:20:17,331 --> 00:20:18,862
Annette and William are hearing,
450
00:20:18,962 --> 00:20:22,830
I know I have to rule
out the obvious first.
451
00:20:22,933 --> 00:20:24,666
And if there isn't a
physical explanation,
452
00:20:24,768 --> 00:20:27,235
our only hope for answers
will have to come from Amy.
453
00:20:27,337 --> 00:20:28,670
All right, Jessie, so what's the story?
454
00:20:28,772 --> 00:20:32,440
I found zero signs of
activity during my inspection.
455
00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:35,109
Okay, so there's no chance
456
00:20:35,212 --> 00:20:37,512
that what they're hearing is
caused by any kind of wildlife.
457
00:20:37,614 --> 00:20:39,113
Steve, I'm 100% sure.
458
00:20:39,216 --> 00:20:40,682
I appreciate you help
and time. Thank you.
459
00:20:40,784 --> 00:20:43,851
Not a problem at all.
460
00:20:44,645 --> 00:20:46,177
AMY: The guy from outside...
461
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,714
the dead guy with lights
is acting really strange.
462
00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:54,452
He smushed himself
down, like, to this tall.
463
00:20:56,623 --> 00:20:58,857
Flat.
464
00:20:58,959 --> 00:21:02,327
And then it gets really loud.
465
00:21:02,429 --> 00:21:05,397
It's super, super loud.
466
00:21:05,499 --> 00:21:09,501
[Groans]
467
00:21:09,603 --> 00:21:12,337
When he does that, it's a problem.
468
00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:13,705
What do you mean?
469
00:21:13,807 --> 00:21:15,674
It's a problem because
470
00:21:15,776 --> 00:21:19,778
the dead ladies freak out.
471
00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:25,417
Like, it's like everything is going nuts
472
00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,186
because all the other dead
people are losing their minds.
473
00:21:28,288 --> 00:21:30,088
What kind of effect would all this chaos
474
00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:31,323
have on the living?
475
00:21:31,425 --> 00:21:33,858
I think they would hear voices,
476
00:21:33,961 --> 00:21:39,998
and there would be, like, a
lot of the feeling of movement.
477
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,067
Like a lot of people moving around.
478
00:21:42,169 --> 00:21:45,937
And so there's all this
pandemonium happening.
479
00:21:52,595 --> 00:21:54,144
If you need us to investigate
480
00:21:54,244 --> 00:21:55,877
unexplained activity in your home,
481
00:21:55,979 --> 00:21:58,246
go to the "Dead Files"
page at travelchannel.com.
482
00:21:58,348 --> 00:22:00,148
Click on "Help Me, Dead Files"
483
00:22:00,250 --> 00:22:01,917
to submit your story,
and we'll help if we can.
484
00:22:09,185 --> 00:22:11,683
STEVE: So far, I've got a
family being terrorized in a home
485
00:22:11,783 --> 00:22:14,068
whose former owner died
of a massive heart attack,
486
00:22:14,168 --> 00:22:15,201
leaving behind a widow
487
00:22:15,303 --> 00:22:17,536
who believed she could
speak to the dead.
488
00:22:17,639 --> 00:22:18,838
But I need to see if
there's anything else
489
00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:21,907
that can help my investigation.
490
00:22:22,010 --> 00:22:23,209
Searching through old records,
491
00:22:23,311 --> 00:22:26,012
I come across a gangster
named Athay Brown.
492
00:22:26,114 --> 00:22:27,146
Turns out his gang
493
00:22:27,248 --> 00:22:28,914
was responsible for the death of a woman
494
00:22:29,017 --> 00:22:33,085
less than a hundred yards
from my clients' property.
495
00:22:33,187 --> 00:22:35,121
Look, when I want to know
the facts about a murder,
496
00:22:35,223 --> 00:22:37,657
there's only one source
I really trust, the cops.
497
00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,126
So I'm on my way to meet with
a Cleveland homicide detective
498
00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:42,061
who looked into it for me, and he says
499
00:22:42,163 --> 00:22:44,897
Brown was one of the most
violent and notorious murders
500
00:22:44,999 --> 00:22:46,532
in Cleveland's history.
501
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,640
So I know you looked
into this local gangster.
502
00:22:54,742 --> 00:22:56,375
What can you tell me about the case?
503
00:22:56,477 --> 00:22:58,944
MAN: Almost right next door
to your client's property,
504
00:22:59,047 --> 00:23:00,513
there lived a lady named Kerri Sykes.
505
00:23:00,615 --> 00:23:04,350
She was a 63-year-old lady
who claimed to be a psychic.
506
00:23:04,452 --> 00:23:05,651
And she did readings for people.
507
00:23:05,753 --> 00:23:08,120
Well, on August 30, 1932,
508
00:23:08,222 --> 00:23:11,490
Kerri Sykes is at home
with an elderly friend...
509
00:23:11,592 --> 00:23:12,858
a 72-year-old
widow,
510
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,428
and these four gangsters
knock on her door.
511
00:23:15,530 --> 00:23:18,464
And they tell them that they're
looking to have a reading.
512
00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:21,532
Athay brown is one of the gang leaders.
513
00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:23,167
Now, you said he was one of Cleveland's
514
00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:25,102
- most dangerous gangsters.
- Yes.
515
00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:29,673
They had done 40 or more
robberies in the Cleveland area
516
00:23:29,776 --> 00:23:31,675
during a six-month period.
517
00:23:31,778 --> 00:23:34,678
They were involved in four murders.
518
00:23:34,781 --> 00:23:36,580
So what happened?
519
00:23:36,682 --> 00:23:38,382
Once she lets them in the house,
520
00:23:38,484 --> 00:23:40,217
they produce pistols,
521
00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,686
and they force the women into
the basement and tie them up.
522
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:45,422
And then begin to ransack the house.
523
00:23:45,525 --> 00:23:48,459
Well, Kerri was able to free
herself and free her companion.
524
00:23:48,561 --> 00:23:50,413
She boosts the
72-year-old lady
525
00:23:50,513 --> 00:23:53,715
up in the basement and
out the basement window.
526
00:23:53,815 --> 00:23:56,583
So the 72-year-old now
is able to run for help.
527
00:23:56,685 --> 00:23:59,018
And now Kerri finds
herself alone in basement,
528
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:01,054
and she starts to have a panic attack,
529
00:24:01,156 --> 00:24:03,323
and actually causes her
to have a heart attack,
530
00:24:03,425 --> 00:24:05,258
and she dies right
there in the basement.
531
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:06,960
How does he wind up getting caught?
532
00:24:07,062 --> 00:24:10,463
Well, he actually doesn't get
caught for Kerri Sykes' death.
533
00:24:10,565 --> 00:24:11,864
A few weeks later,
534
00:24:11,967 --> 00:24:14,100
he thinks that one of
the members of his gang
535
00:24:14,202 --> 00:24:17,136
is talking to the police about
him, and he gets paranoid.
536
00:24:17,239 --> 00:24:18,538
So him and another gang member
537
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,740
sneak into the snitch's house one night.
538
00:24:20,842 --> 00:24:22,175
And while the snitch
539
00:24:22,277 --> 00:24:27,313
is sleeping with his 20-year-old
pregnant wife, they open fire.
540
00:24:27,415 --> 00:24:29,882
They miss the snitch, but
they killed the pregnant wife.
541
00:24:29,985 --> 00:24:31,851
- Oh, [bleep].
- Francine Holt...
542
00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:36,356
and I was able to find a copy
of her death certificate for you.
543
00:24:36,458 --> 00:24:37,757
So he jumps back on a train
544
00:24:37,859 --> 00:24:40,059
and heads back to Cleveland,
and the Cleveland police
545
00:24:40,161 --> 00:24:42,328
had been alerted at that time,
and they were waiting for him,
546
00:24:42,430 --> 00:24:43,763
and they arrested him
when he got off the train.
547
00:24:43,865 --> 00:24:45,331
He goes to trial, I guess?
548
00:24:45,433 --> 00:24:46,599
Yes, he goes to trial
549
00:24:46,701 --> 00:24:49,636
for the murder of the
20-year-old pregnant lady,
550
00:24:49,738 --> 00:24:51,271
and he's found guilty of that,
551
00:24:51,373 --> 00:24:52,772
and he gets sentenced to death.
552
00:24:52,874 --> 00:24:54,741
Do they execute this rat [bleep]?
553
00:24:54,843 --> 00:24:56,109
They do.
554
00:24:56,211 --> 00:24:59,212
Within a year of Kerri Sykes' death,
555
00:24:59,314 --> 00:25:01,848
Athay Brown was put to death
in the Ohio Penitentiary
556
00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:03,316
at the age of 27.
557
00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:05,184
Good. He deserved it.
558
00:25:11,007 --> 00:25:12,039
The guy from
outside...
559
00:25:12,141 --> 00:25:15,042
this guy in the light...
560
00:25:15,144 --> 00:25:18,946
he's in here.
561
00:25:19,048 --> 00:25:22,850
Whatever he did, he ruined people.
562
00:25:22,952 --> 00:25:24,785
He, like, took [bleep]
563
00:25:26,105 --> 00:25:29,140
And he would ruin
them, like, financially.
564
00:25:29,242 --> 00:25:30,374
Then there was a major thing
565
00:25:30,476 --> 00:25:33,945
that actually killed a lot of people.
566
00:25:34,047 --> 00:25:36,154
And it ruined him.
567
00:25:36,182 --> 00:25:41,152
The dead teenage girl, he killed her.
568
00:25:41,254 --> 00:25:42,987
He's damned because of what he did.
569
00:25:43,089 --> 00:25:45,156
He caused a lot of people to die.
570
00:25:51,064 --> 00:25:52,964
AMY: I saw several dead
people during my walk,
571
00:25:53,066 --> 00:25:54,832
but two stood out the most.
572
00:25:54,935 --> 00:25:57,168
First, the old man in the basement.
573
00:25:57,270 --> 00:25:59,304
He has thick, white hair,
574
00:25:59,406 --> 00:26:02,740
and it's parted.
575
00:26:02,842 --> 00:26:08,446
His nose was very, very large.
576
00:26:08,548 --> 00:26:10,682
Next, I describe the dead teenage girl
577
00:26:10,784 --> 00:26:12,850
talking to a living woman.
578
00:26:12,953 --> 00:26:15,553
It was in a bedroom.
579
00:26:20,293 --> 00:26:22,727
She is in the process of decomposing.
580
00:26:26,634 --> 00:26:29,635
Amy, is this what you saw?
581
00:26:29,737 --> 00:26:31,403
Yes, that's what I saw.
582
00:26:51,199 --> 00:26:54,005
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
583
00:26:54,105 --> 00:26:55,471
we're ready to reveal our findings
584
00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:57,073
to each other and our clients
585
00:26:57,175 --> 00:26:58,341
for the first time.
586
00:26:58,443 --> 00:27:02,378
Well, Amy, this is William
and this is Annette.
587
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,881
These guys are all about
one thing... family...
588
00:27:04,983 --> 00:27:06,048
and they have a big one,
589
00:27:06,151 --> 00:27:08,885
seven kids, including Nikki here,
590
00:27:08,987 --> 00:27:11,587
and 11 grandchildren.
591
00:27:11,689 --> 00:27:13,456
And that's the reason they called us in.
592
00:27:13,558 --> 00:27:15,291
The activity here is so bad,
593
00:27:15,393 --> 00:27:17,493
it's tearing the family apart.
594
00:27:17,595 --> 00:27:19,862
No one wants to be here,
595
00:27:19,964 --> 00:27:22,465
and the kids are worried
that Annette and William
596
00:27:22,567 --> 00:27:23,933
are in danger.
597
00:27:24,035 --> 00:27:25,835
Now that Amy knows a
little bit about you guys,
598
00:27:25,937 --> 00:27:27,906
I'm going to ask her
to describe her walk.
599
00:27:32,075 --> 00:27:33,908
AMY: So the worst place
for me in the house
600
00:27:34,010 --> 00:27:36,711
was when I went into the basement
601
00:27:36,813 --> 00:27:38,679
and I became, like,
602
00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:42,750
extremely anxious and,
like, overwhelming panic.
603
00:27:42,852 --> 00:27:45,019
And I saw this man there.
604
00:27:45,121 --> 00:27:47,055
And he apparently is,
605
00:27:47,157 --> 00:27:50,654
like, reliving his death
over and over and over again.
606
00:27:51,027 --> 00:27:54,429
I didn't know how anybody
could go down there and,
607
00:27:54,531 --> 00:27:55,997
like, do laundry or anything
608
00:27:56,099 --> 00:27:59,167
because his energy is so negative.
609
00:27:59,269 --> 00:28:01,436
You just feel horrible.
610
00:28:01,538 --> 00:28:04,165
And also I think that
611
00:28:04,265 --> 00:28:07,666
anybody alive would
feel extremely drained,
612
00:28:07,768 --> 00:28:11,503
and they would feel like a
sense of, like, impending doom.
613
00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:15,174
A lot of our family have had
experiences in the basement
614
00:28:15,276 --> 00:28:18,041
in seeing a man in that area.
615
00:28:18,223 --> 00:28:20,123
I was in the basement,
616
00:28:20,225 --> 00:28:21,357
and I woke up,
617
00:28:21,459 --> 00:28:23,760
and I saw this man
coming down the stairs.
618
00:28:23,862 --> 00:28:25,161
And you were sleeping down there?
619
00:28:25,263 --> 00:28:26,829
That was it for me.
620
00:28:26,931 --> 00:28:29,165
I think that things like that only
621
00:28:29,267 --> 00:28:32,035
happen to people in the movies,
622
00:28:32,137 --> 00:28:35,405
and it's terrifying to
even see it and feel it...
623
00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:39,609
and to be in your family's
house and experience it.
624
00:28:39,711 --> 00:28:41,477
All right, so we know this
guy's causing problems.
625
00:28:41,579 --> 00:28:43,112
Any idea who he was?
626
00:28:43,214 --> 00:28:47,550
AMY: I thought that
this man owns this house,
627
00:28:47,652 --> 00:28:51,454
that he died in the house.
628
00:28:51,556 --> 00:28:53,056
I'm not sure how he died,
629
00:28:53,158 --> 00:28:56,726
but I was feeling like
an aneurysm or a stroke.
630
00:28:56,828 --> 00:28:59,429
I got that he was
within the last 30 years.
631
00:28:59,531 --> 00:29:02,398
He was 68 years old when he died.
632
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:03,533
Wow.
633
00:29:03,635 --> 00:29:07,070
- And he had thick, white hair.
- Wow.
634
00:29:07,172 --> 00:29:09,672
I don't have to think
too long about this one.
635
00:29:09,774 --> 00:29:12,342
Now you said the guy
you saw owned the home,
636
00:29:12,444 --> 00:29:16,112
died in the home, and
died at the age of 68.
637
00:29:16,214 --> 00:29:18,114
Now, the first owner of the house
638
00:29:18,216 --> 00:29:21,017
was this guy named Valentine Carpozi.
639
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:25,221
Well, in 1978, Valentine,
at the age of 66,
640
00:29:25,323 --> 00:29:28,491
has a massive heart attack
in the living room here.
641
00:29:28,593 --> 00:29:30,312
And was declared dead an hour later.
642
00:29:30,412 --> 00:29:31,844
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
643
00:29:31,946 --> 00:29:35,348
Now, I do have his
death certificate here.
644
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:37,350
He officially died at the hospital,
645
00:29:37,452 --> 00:29:39,185
but in my experience, when somebody
646
00:29:39,287 --> 00:29:40,553
has a massive heart attack,
647
00:29:40,655 --> 00:29:42,588
- they're usually dead right away.
- Right.
648
00:29:42,691 --> 00:29:45,658
Now I did manage to
track down a photo of him
649
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,561
with his second wife, Eleanor.
650
00:29:49,394 --> 00:29:51,795
What do you think
when you see the photo?
651
00:29:51,897 --> 00:29:54,164
Well, I did have a sketch of him.
652
00:29:58,904 --> 00:30:00,403
I'm pretty sure this is the same guy,
653
00:30:00,505 --> 00:30:01,704
but you guys tell me.
654
00:30:01,807 --> 00:30:03,306
Take a look at the photo
and the sketch together.
655
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:07,944
Yep.
656
00:30:08,046 --> 00:30:09,045
It resembles the guy that I saw.
657
00:30:09,147 --> 00:30:14,250
That could be the person
that's looking in on me.
658
00:30:14,352 --> 00:30:20,023
AMY: So there are two
separate deceased females
659
00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:23,927
that are in the house and are active.
660
00:30:24,029 --> 00:30:26,463
What I got was that
they're both murder victims.
661
00:30:26,565 --> 00:30:28,565
One of the females
662
00:30:28,667 --> 00:30:33,403
is mentally ill and
stuck in her death state,
663
00:30:33,505 --> 00:30:38,708
and she's reliving the pain of
her murder over and over again.
664
00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:39,976
I'm thinking, well,
665
00:30:40,078 --> 00:30:42,745
it may be a stab wound,
gunshot, I'm not sure.
666
00:30:42,848 --> 00:30:45,448
All I know is that she bled out.
667
00:30:45,550 --> 00:30:47,317
The other female is a teenager.
668
00:30:47,419 --> 00:30:50,620
Her body is decomposing,
she has like a bluish-gray,
669
00:30:50,722 --> 00:30:52,956
you know, hue.
670
00:30:53,058 --> 00:30:56,226
And with her, I felt sharp neck pains,
671
00:30:56,328 --> 00:30:59,262
so I'm thinking she might
have been stabbed there.
672
00:30:59,364 --> 00:31:01,030
The thing that I found disturbing
673
00:31:01,132 --> 00:31:04,901
about these two females
was that they can't leave.
674
00:31:05,003 --> 00:31:09,639
And I actually saw leashes
strapped around them.
675
00:31:09,741 --> 00:31:13,877
What I got was that at
some point in this house,
676
00:31:13,979 --> 00:31:16,279
somebody was playing with the occult
677
00:31:16,381 --> 00:31:18,848
or some type of witchcraft.
678
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:22,752
May have been using Ouija
boards or doing seances,
679
00:31:22,854 --> 00:31:24,954
and they might not be aware,
680
00:31:25,056 --> 00:31:28,157
but they inadvertently
trapped these two females
681
00:31:28,260 --> 00:31:29,726
and made an attachment to them.
682
00:31:29,828 --> 00:31:31,861
Oh, my God.
683
00:31:31,963 --> 00:31:33,763
Now, everybody in the family
684
00:31:33,865 --> 00:31:37,300
that I spoke to said
that they've never messed
685
00:31:37,402 --> 00:31:38,902
with anything like that.
686
00:31:39,004 --> 00:31:43,773
But one of the previous
owners of your home did.
687
00:31:43,875 --> 00:31:46,609
And that's Valentine's
second wife, Eleanor.
688
00:31:46,711 --> 00:31:50,813
After Valentine died, she
lived here for 21 years alone.
689
00:31:50,916 --> 00:31:53,249
Eleanor was, from what
I was told, religious.
690
00:31:53,351 --> 00:31:54,751
So I met with her pastor.
691
00:31:54,853 --> 00:31:56,352
This is where it gets interesting.
692
00:31:56,454 --> 00:31:59,489
The church identifies as
Christian, but also believes
693
00:31:59,591 --> 00:32:01,257
- in the paranormal.
- What?
694
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,661
They try to communicate with
the dead during the services.
695
00:32:04,763 --> 00:32:05,695
Oh, boy.
696
00:32:05,797 --> 00:32:07,130
Could this be the woman
697
00:32:07,232 --> 00:32:09,632
that you think might have been
communicating with the dead?
698
00:32:09,734 --> 00:32:10,633
Yes.
699
00:32:10,735 --> 00:32:13,536
It makes a lot of sense.
700
00:32:13,638 --> 00:32:15,772
So let me ask a question,
what are these two dead women
701
00:32:15,874 --> 00:32:17,073
doing in the house?
702
00:32:17,175 --> 00:32:21,052
They spend most of their
time in the back two bedrooms
703
00:32:21,152 --> 00:32:22,652
to the right.
704
00:32:22,754 --> 00:32:26,155
Okay, so that's William Jr.'s
room and their master bedroom.
705
00:32:26,257 --> 00:32:27,557
Okay.
706
00:32:27,659 --> 00:32:32,228
They do inadvertently
interact with the living a bit.
707
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:36,666
I would think that you guys
would occasionally see them.
708
00:32:36,768 --> 00:32:38,734
They're rather vocal.
709
00:32:38,836 --> 00:32:43,306
I would think that you
guys would hear voices.
710
00:32:43,408 --> 00:32:46,075
Now, we could talk about the
woman you saw in the basement.
711
00:32:46,177 --> 00:32:47,279
- Mm-hmm.
- Describe it to Amy.
712
00:32:47,379 --> 00:32:50,680
She was a short lady
with long white hair
713
00:32:50,782 --> 00:32:54,484
and a long white gown.
714
00:32:54,586 --> 00:32:55,919
It scared the hell out of me.
715
00:32:56,021 --> 00:32:59,422
Have any of you heard,
like, voices at night?
716
00:32:59,524 --> 00:33:01,958
Their son, William Jr.,
did before he moved out.
717
00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:03,760
He couldn't take all the activity.
718
00:33:03,862 --> 00:33:07,464
Wow.
719
00:33:07,566 --> 00:33:11,634
The younger dead girl
likes to spend a lot of time
720
00:33:11,737 --> 00:33:14,204
in the master bedroom.
721
00:33:14,306 --> 00:33:16,606
I saw her sitting on the floor
722
00:33:16,708 --> 00:33:20,810
and talking to the female in the bed.
723
00:33:20,912 --> 00:33:24,447
The living person may not
know that this is happening
724
00:33:24,549 --> 00:33:28,418
because it would seem like
more like sleep talking.
725
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,521
We didn't share that.
726
00:33:31,623 --> 00:33:36,993
That for the past two years
727
00:33:37,095 --> 00:33:39,996
I've started talking in my sleep.
728
00:33:40,098 --> 00:33:45,969
And William says I have a full
conversation that wakes him up.
729
00:33:46,071 --> 00:33:48,171
I drew a sketch
730
00:33:48,273 --> 00:33:54,577
of what I saw happening
between these two individuals.
731
00:33:54,679 --> 00:33:56,079
Are you guys ready for this?
732
00:33:56,181 --> 00:34:00,550
[Chuckles]
733
00:34:00,652 --> 00:34:02,727
You're gonna be shocked
when you see this.
734
00:34:05,404 --> 00:34:07,122
God.
735
00:34:11,188 --> 00:34:13,155
That's exactly what I saw.
736
00:34:13,257 --> 00:34:14,323
It's when she turned,
737
00:34:14,425 --> 00:34:16,725
her face was like a
gargoyle or something.
738
00:34:16,827 --> 00:34:19,194
It was exactly what I saw.
739
00:34:19,296 --> 00:34:23,832
And that's your only conscious
interaction that you recall?
740
00:34:23,934 --> 00:34:26,702
Other than my name being called.
741
00:34:26,804 --> 00:34:28,070
Okay, okay.
742
00:34:28,172 --> 00:34:30,906
Like, someone's always
trying to get my attention.
743
00:34:31,008 --> 00:34:32,913
I'm getting the hell out of this house.
744
00:34:37,221 --> 00:34:39,418
AMY: The last person I encountered
745
00:34:39,518 --> 00:34:42,485
really concerned me.
746
00:34:42,587 --> 00:34:44,354
The first time I saw him,
747
00:34:44,456 --> 00:34:46,656
it was really weird because
748
00:34:46,758 --> 00:34:50,460
he surrounds himself with light.
749
00:34:50,562 --> 00:34:53,630
I come downstairs about
8:00 in the morning,
750
00:34:53,732 --> 00:34:59,502
and... a body over light...
751
00:34:59,604 --> 00:35:03,840
like, sparkles... tons of
them coming up the steps.
752
00:35:03,942 --> 00:35:06,476
When I come down, it
stopped, and I stopped,
753
00:35:06,578 --> 00:35:08,578
- and we're staring at each other.
- Wow.
754
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,381
But my whole body was just shaking.
755
00:35:11,483 --> 00:35:13,082
So what else does this guy do?
756
00:35:13,185 --> 00:35:15,118
He figures out
757
00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:18,054
what means the most to
the people in the house,
758
00:35:18,156 --> 00:35:19,422
what they love the most,
759
00:35:19,524 --> 00:35:22,192
what they're most passionate about,
760
00:35:22,294 --> 00:35:25,528
and then he tries to
take it away from them.
761
00:35:25,630 --> 00:35:29,098
Now, what's the one thing
that would destroy your life?
762
00:35:29,201 --> 00:35:31,935
Losing my family.
763
00:35:32,037 --> 00:35:34,771
Is that what he's trying to do?
764
00:35:34,873 --> 00:35:40,376
What I saw was that he
would smush himself down
765
00:35:40,478 --> 00:35:42,679
and then raise up from the ground.
766
00:35:42,781 --> 00:35:45,048
When he does that kind of stuff,
767
00:35:45,150 --> 00:35:48,284
the dead women freak out.
768
00:35:48,386 --> 00:35:51,221
And what I saw was
just like pandemonium.
769
00:35:51,323 --> 00:35:53,690
I'm like, I think that
the living here would feel
770
00:35:53,792 --> 00:35:57,560
like this chaos, this movement
of people rushing around.
771
00:35:57,662 --> 00:36:00,129
And that's when he's...
772
00:36:00,232 --> 00:36:03,499
he's in the room doing that.
773
00:36:03,602 --> 00:36:05,835
Tell her your number one
complaint about the footsteps.
774
00:36:05,937 --> 00:36:08,104
We can be in the
basement, and you hear...
775
00:36:08,206 --> 00:36:11,274
[Stamping feet] That loud.
776
00:36:11,376 --> 00:36:15,745
The first time we heard it, we
thought someone had broke in.
777
00:36:15,847 --> 00:36:18,014
I brought in a pest control
specialist just to check it out,
778
00:36:18,116 --> 00:36:20,149
to be on the safe side.
779
00:36:20,252 --> 00:36:22,748
He didn't find a thing.
780
00:36:24,557 --> 00:36:27,491
So this guy with the lights,
any clue who he was in life?
781
00:36:27,593 --> 00:36:30,127
He was not a good
person when he was alive.
782
00:36:30,229 --> 00:36:31,929
He said that he ruined people,
783
00:36:32,031 --> 00:36:34,765
he was a thief, that he would
take things from people...
784
00:36:34,867 --> 00:36:36,300
like their land or business.
785
00:36:36,402 --> 00:36:40,070
He also caused a lot of people to die.
786
00:36:40,172 --> 00:36:45,042
At one point, the younger girl
787
00:36:45,144 --> 00:36:50,013
pointed at him and said that
he was the one who murdered her.
788
00:36:50,115 --> 00:36:56,019
He believes that the situation
that he's in now is hell.
789
00:36:57,890 --> 00:37:01,475
He wants out, but he feels
like he's damned himself.
790
00:37:02,831 --> 00:37:04,409
I came across somebody in my research
791
00:37:04,511 --> 00:37:06,745
that may fit the bill about
who she's talking about.
792
00:37:06,847 --> 00:37:08,613
A notorious gangster, actually,
793
00:37:08,715 --> 00:37:12,217
that terrorized this area in 1932.
794
00:37:12,319 --> 00:37:14,486
His name was Athay Brown.
795
00:37:14,588 --> 00:37:18,256
I've actually got a photo of him.
796
00:37:18,358 --> 00:37:19,524
He worked with his wife, Rose,
797
00:37:19,626 --> 00:37:23,328
and a couple other gang
members in the area here.
798
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:26,831
Now, in a six-month span,
they committed 40 robberies
799
00:37:26,934 --> 00:37:28,934
and murdered four
people that we know of.
800
00:37:29,036 --> 00:37:30,302
What?!
801
00:37:30,404 --> 00:37:33,138
Now, Brown and his crew,
802
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,309
back on August 30, 1932,
803
00:37:37,411 --> 00:37:39,278
hit a home about 100
yards from this house.
804
00:37:39,504 --> 00:37:42,371
The woman who lived there,
Kerri Sykes, was a psychic.
805
00:37:42,473 --> 00:37:45,508
She had an elderly friend over.
806
00:37:45,610 --> 00:37:46,976
When she opened the door,
807
00:37:47,078 --> 00:37:49,578
they pulled out their guns,
brought them into the basement,
808
00:37:49,681 --> 00:37:50,713
tied them up.
809
00:37:50,815 --> 00:37:53,082
While the guys were
ransacking the house,
810
00:37:53,184 --> 00:37:56,118
Kerri wound up dying of a
heart attack in the basement.
811
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:58,521
Five weeks later,
812
00:37:58,623 --> 00:38:03,859
he broke into a gang member's
house to kill him for snitching.
813
00:38:03,962 --> 00:38:06,862
Instead, he accidentally shot and killed
814
00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:09,632
the guy's 20-year-old
pregnant wife.
815
00:38:09,734 --> 00:38:12,468
Her name was Francis Holt.
816
00:38:12,570 --> 00:38:15,738
And I got her death certificate as well.
817
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,840
He was convicted of
first-degree murder.
818
00:38:17,942 --> 00:38:19,499
On March 10, 1933,
819
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,600
Athay was electrocuted at
the Ohio State Penitentiary.
820
00:38:22,702 --> 00:38:25,636
Now, he was only 27 years old.
821
00:38:25,739 --> 00:38:29,574
I don't think we'll know for sure
822
00:38:29,676 --> 00:38:32,210
if it's this man, but it's possible.
823
00:38:32,312 --> 00:38:36,013
All right, so, we don't
know who the guy is,
824
00:38:36,116 --> 00:38:40,218
but what does he want with
our beautiful family here?
825
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,189
His thing is is that he
wants to hurt people here.
826
00:38:45,291 --> 00:38:49,961
His purpose being that
he needs to destroy.
827
00:38:50,063 --> 00:38:52,063
I'm terrified.
828
00:38:52,165 --> 00:38:54,699
How much more that we can take of this?
829
00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:56,200
It's destroying my family.
830
00:38:56,302 --> 00:38:59,370
Things are just out of whack here.
831
00:39:13,068 --> 00:39:14,367
STEVE: Annette, when we first met,
832
00:39:14,469 --> 00:39:17,529
you told me your motto is don't
mess with my family or my home.
833
00:39:17,629 --> 00:39:18,594
Yes.
834
00:39:18,696 --> 00:39:20,963
Now we know what's
been messing with both.
835
00:39:21,065 --> 00:39:24,801
The question is can you
kick out the rat [bleep]
836
00:39:24,903 --> 00:39:26,836
That's responsible for
trying to destroy your family
837
00:39:26,938 --> 00:39:29,739
and get your life back the
way you guys want it to be?
838
00:39:29,841 --> 00:39:34,277
For that answer, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
839
00:39:34,379 --> 00:39:37,780
AMY: You could move.
840
00:39:37,882 --> 00:39:41,584
That would be really
the easiest thing to do.
841
00:39:41,686 --> 00:39:44,720
But there would still be all this mess
842
00:39:44,823 --> 00:39:47,924
here for the next people.
843
00:39:48,026 --> 00:39:50,092
But if you're really determined to stay,
844
00:39:50,195 --> 00:39:55,665
what needs to be done would be
to reach out to the pastor...
845
00:39:55,767 --> 00:39:56,833
Mm-hmm.
846
00:39:56,935 --> 00:39:58,568
Of this church
847
00:39:58,670 --> 00:40:02,338
and have him create a team
848
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,174
of his best sensitives.
849
00:40:05,276 --> 00:40:10,146
And, basically, they would
have it out with Eleanor.
850
00:40:10,248 --> 00:40:12,148
Fight fire with fire.
851
00:40:12,250 --> 00:40:14,584
Once she's removed,
852
00:40:14,686 --> 00:40:19,088
the two dead women
will be able to move on.
853
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:24,026
But her husband would
need more assistance
854
00:40:24,128 --> 00:40:30,132
because he's so confused
by what's going on.
855
00:40:30,235 --> 00:40:31,767
Once that's been done,
856
00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:36,305
then the killer, obviously,
needs to be addressed.
857
00:40:36,407 --> 00:40:39,442
And what would happen there would be
858
00:40:39,544 --> 00:40:43,980
the sensitives would actually
summon him and let him know
859
00:40:44,082 --> 00:40:46,515
that he's able to leave.
860
00:40:46,618 --> 00:40:50,019
The only good thing about
him is that he actually
861
00:40:50,121 --> 00:40:51,854
does want to go,
862
00:40:51,956 --> 00:40:56,200
but he's made himself believe he can't.
863
00:40:56,962 --> 00:40:58,828
William, what are you thinking?
864
00:40:58,930 --> 00:41:02,031
Move.
865
00:41:02,134 --> 00:41:05,068
Even if we did get rid
of stuff like that, man,
866
00:41:05,170 --> 00:41:07,203
it's just too much still.
867
00:41:07,305 --> 00:41:09,706
You know, you'd still be like,
868
00:41:09,808 --> 00:41:11,508
"Is it still here?"
869
00:41:11,610 --> 00:41:12,876
In the back of our
minds, it would be like...
870
00:41:12,978 --> 00:41:14,944
- You're traumatized.
- Yeah.
871
00:41:16,357 --> 00:41:19,263
Well, Annette, we know
how William and Nikki feel.
872
00:41:19,363 --> 00:41:21,063
You still want to fight, though?
873
00:41:21,165 --> 00:41:24,467
This is my home. I've
been here almost 15 years.
874
00:41:24,569 --> 00:41:27,403
I've poured my heart and soul into this.
875
00:41:28,663 --> 00:41:30,796
This is the heart of the matter.
876
00:41:31,681 --> 00:41:34,214
But in order to get my family back,
877
00:41:34,316 --> 00:41:36,183
I'm willing to do anything.
878
00:41:36,614 --> 00:41:38,580
AMY: I wish I had better news
for Annette and her family.
879
00:41:38,682 --> 00:41:41,674
But leaving this house
is their best option.
880
00:41:41,774 --> 00:41:44,241
If they're not able to move right away,
881
00:41:44,343 --> 00:41:45,842
their only hope is to contact the pastor
882
00:41:45,867 --> 00:41:49,233
to free themselves of the dead trapped inside their home.
883
00:41:49,283 --> 00:41:53,833
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