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AMY: Oh, boy.
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I feel like there's a man down here.
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He came and he bumped me.
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Like, you know, I felt it.
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Punching, slapping,
kicking. He's a bully.
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So, it's still an open case?
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Yes. It's an unsolved murder.
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I'm gonna [bleep] kill you.
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I've been through a lot in this house.
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He's kinda freaked out.
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They're everywhere.
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AMY: He's disgusting and nasty.
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There's a dark presence.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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These things, they're freaking out.
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They're from hell.
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I see dead people.
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They were being hunted.
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I speak to dead people...
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They were setting people
on fire, burning them alive.
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...and they speak to me.
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Her neck got broken.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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And I hear a gunshot.
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- I rely on my partner.
- I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Somethin's not right here.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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- It's not safe here.
- It's my job to reveal them.
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Are any of them buried on the property?
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They're all buried here.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation...
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- ...until the very end.
- I can't do it no more.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Holy [Bleep]. Look at this.
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Or time to get out.
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It does not have a happy ending.
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Something kills people here.
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I'm in the small town
of Canton, Illinois.
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It's between Chicago and St. Louis.
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Now, I got a call from a woman
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who said she's at her breaking point.
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Her 7-year-old
is so traumatized,
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he won't go anywhere alone in the house.
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She's says it's gotten physical,
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and she's afraid he's gonna get hurt.
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She's beggin' us for help.
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MATT: Before Amy arrives,
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I look for anything that
could influence her findings.
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This home is covered with family photos
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and spiritual items
that I need to remove.
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When I'm done, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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In... in my opening, I saw
two of these big trees...
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[Thunderclap]
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...and five shadow
men hanging from them.
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There's something that's, like,
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right outside here that is so bad.
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Like, there is this dark wall
of energy around this place
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because of whatever happened
to these five people,
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and they're creating this,
like, cloud of sadness.
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And they're creepy.
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STEVE: When you and
I spoke the phone, uh,
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you sounded like a young
mom at her wit's end.
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Let's start. What the hell's goin' on?
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Um, I'm really worried about
my 7-year-old son, Layne.
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Things have been happening
in the house with him.
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Where he can't even sleep in
his room without, you know,
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four night-lights.
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I can tell, like, most of the time,
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Layne don't wanna be home
'cause he's terrified.
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Is everybody in the
house having experiences?
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- Yes.
- Okay, like what?
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There's banging going
on, um, things moving.
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Uh, we have seen
apparitions, shadow figures,
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and it has been physical.
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So, who exactly is living in the house?
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- Um, my husband, Mike...
- Okay.
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My son, Layne, and my
daughter, Hannelore.
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Layne is 7, and Hannelore
is about a year-and-a-half.
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I'm worried that Hannelore is starting
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to experience the same things
that Layne is experiencing.
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She'll point that the
window and say, "Uh-oh,"
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and... and kinda make a...
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like, a whining noise like she's scared.
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Now, you had mentioned that Layne
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is gettin' the worst of it.
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Yes. He gets upset.
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He hyperventilates when he sees things.
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Here's, um, a picture that he drew,
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and he said it was the devil
that he's seen in his room.
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He's got more pictures right here.
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This poor kid.
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He sees things that normal
7-year-olds don't see.
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One of the reasons I did take this case
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was because a child
was getting affected.
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Why do you think Layne's
being affected so much?
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I feel like they like him.
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They gravitate towards him.
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I mean, he says, "What do
they want? I want them gone."
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And then I'm... I don't
know what to tell him.
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I just want all of us
to be free and happy
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and not scared to be here.
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I don't know how much more I can take.
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Okay.
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I'm thinking that there
is a dead person here
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who is capable or wants to
inflict physical pain on people,
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or illness, uh, on living people.
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[Humming]
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It's, like, in this room
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that I'm gettin' the big pull from him.
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This is where he retreated to,
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which kinda makes me nervous
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'cause it seems like
it's a child's room,
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so that's kind of unnerving.
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I'm getting, like,
this 20-year-old male.
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This dead guy, he
looks big. He's a bully.
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He can bully, um, you know,
weak people, vulnerable people.
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He's angry. He's very, very, very angry,
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and that does not bode well
for whoever might be in here.
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So what's goin' on in here?
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Um, I've seen shadow figures,
um, when I'm laying on the bed.
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Um, I have one that was in my face.
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I can feel them, on me, in my face.
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Like, watching me.
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You just said "them."
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- Yeah.
- Is there more than one?
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I did see another one
at a different time,
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and it was at the end of the bed.
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- Okay.
- And it was tall,
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and it was, like, just
standing there, watching me.
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Okay. Anything else?
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In the bathroom, it was late.
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I got in the shower, and I felt
like something was watching me.
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And it was, um, it made me feel,
like, violated, like, disgusted.
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I was disgusted.
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I opened the curtain,
and I was like, "Get out!"
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I knew it was there, and
as soon as I said that,
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I felt, like, "Okay, now I
can at least take a shower."
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So, you felt like a
Peepin' Tom or something?
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- Yes, definitely.
- Okay.
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I see, like, a woman with long hair.
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And this is a living person.
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And then, like, that guy.
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This guy is dead,
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and he's making moves on a living woman.
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This person, it's
like she's not herself.
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She's anxious and restless.
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She's, like, pacing.
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She's having, like, these,
like, weird, intrusive thoughts.
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Like, she wants to run away.
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She wants to leave this life.
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I-I mean, I think it might be this male
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who's, like, influencing her,
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but she's fighting
it, like, all the time.
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And that's, like, the
restlessness and the pacing
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and the can't sleep
and, like, the, you know,
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trying to, like, relax and, like, focus.
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He's, like, freaking out now
that I'm talking about it.
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He doesn't like it. He's
getting really anxious
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and really upset and he's just, like...
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Ow.
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My neck and my head.
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I hate being down here.
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It definitely creeps me out to be here.
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Okay. Why?
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When I have to come
down here and do laundry,
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I always feel like
somebody is watching me.
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I feel like it's a man.
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Is it the same feeling
you get in the bathroom?
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Yes. Exact same feeling.
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Every time I come down here,
I have the exact same feeling.
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Do you feel it right this second
while you're in front of me?
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Yes.
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- Now, where are you feelin' it?
- Right there.
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Okay.
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Recently he, um, came
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and he bumped me to get my attention.
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Like, he definitely
wanted me to feel him.
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- Do it to me.
- So it was like... that.
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Okay, so it was pretty significant.
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So it was, like... It,
like, you know, I felt it.
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I know you're a mom.
You gotta do laundry.
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But how the hell do you
come down here every day?
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I mean, I hate coming down here.
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I feel like I'm a
prisoner in my own home.
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AMY: I feel like
there's a man down here.
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Very, uh, aggressive male down here.
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Mm.
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He was an older male, uh,
probably, like, 50s, maybe?
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And he's a big guy.
Like, he's kinda chubby.
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I don't know how they would see him,
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but I think they could see something.
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He can be very aggressive
towards the living,
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'cause this is very
much his [bleep] space.
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What does he do to them?
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He likes to trip people a lot.
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Like, he'll kneel down and
wait and then grab them.
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He, like, rushes them.
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I think they'll see something,
like, barreling towards them,
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right up on them.
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He's just disgusting and nasty.
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I don't like him.
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So, Mike, it looks like you're
doing renovations, obviously.
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Yeah. Okay, so how long you...
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this been going on?
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Almost 5 years.
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- Five years?
- Yes.
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It takes so long 'cause
I'm uncomfortable up here.
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It really bothers me.
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What about your
experiences? What's goin' on?
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In the basement, we have
an old coal room down there,
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and when I was putting
together the pool table,
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I looked over and seen
an old man starin' at me
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through a plate glass window.
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Inside the coal room?
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Inside the coal room, you
know, just looking out.
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I probably sat there for 5...
5 minutes, just lookin' back.
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You know, your wife felt
something watching her
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from that window, too.
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So describe what the
old man looked like.
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All I seen was his
shoulders and his face,
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and he just looked old and
his face was just wrinkly.
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It freaked me out so
much that the next day,
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I went down with a can of spray paint,
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and I spray painted that window black.
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Okay. Anything else?
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Whenever I'm up here workin',
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overwhelming feeling
somebody's standin' right there
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in the doorway watchin' me.
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I cannot stop lookin' over my shoulder
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to see what's there, but
there's never anything there.
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You gettin' that feeling right now?
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Yeah. You do?
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And is it...
I've got a feeling
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that somebody's standing
right there, watching me.
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Okay.
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AMY: Oh, boy.
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I don't like in there though.
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It's terrible. It's terrible energy.
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Okay, so there's this old woman.
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She's, like, talking about, uh,
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somethin' up here, somebody.
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She does not like him.
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Would the living be
affected by this in any way?
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I would think yeah,
maybe feeling oppression.
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Maybe, like, an oppressive anxiety?
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And they feel her watching them.
250
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I don't like it in here.
251
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She would make the living feel sick.
252
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They would have, like,
intestinal issues.
253
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I don't like her. I don't
really want to talk to her.
254
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She is [bleep] so mean.
255
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She's like, "I'm gonna
[bleep] kill you!"
256
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STEVE: How old are you now, Layne?
257
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- 7.
- Okay.
258
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I was talkin' to Mommy, and she
was telling was telling me that,
259
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uh, some of the things that
are happening in the house
260
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- make you afraid.
- Yes.
261
00:12:14,956 --> 00:12:16,923
Tell me about some of
the stuff you've seen.
262
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I hear children laughing,
a boy and a girl.
263
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And there was a guy right there.
264
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He was a black mass.
265
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There was an angel there.
266
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I saw floating dolls.
267
00:12:30,171 --> 00:12:35,508
They had stitch-up eyes
and it was really creepy.
268
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You know, I can believe
what I'm hearing.
269
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This kid is firing off
experience after experience
270
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to the point where I can barely keep up.
271
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I saw a black figure in the bathroom.
272
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It was, like, crunched down like this,
273
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and it was pretty creepy.
274
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Either Layne has an
overactive imagination
275
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or he's seen way too
much, way too young.
276
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I saw the devil.
277
00:12:57,232 --> 00:12:58,865
Okay, where'd you see the devil?
278
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Right here.
279
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Okay. Tell me about that.
280
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He had horns.
281
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What about his face?
282
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Red. Red.
283
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And he had black hair.
284
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He was, like, smiling so freaky at me.
285
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Okay. Is that the one you drew
the picture for, for Mommy?
286
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- Yes.
- How do you know it's the devil?
287
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I know it's the devil.
288
00:13:17,819 --> 00:13:20,353
I don't know why, but I know it's evil.
289
00:13:20,455 --> 00:13:22,989
How do you know all this?
You seem pretty smart.
290
00:13:23,091 --> 00:13:25,692
Thank you. 'Cause I'm just kind of open.
291
00:13:25,794 --> 00:13:28,394
Okay, so what do you think
these things your seeing want?
292
00:13:28,496 --> 00:13:29,829
They probably want to go to the light
293
00:13:29,931 --> 00:13:31,397
so they can go to heaven.
294
00:13:31,499 --> 00:13:34,133
So, do you think that when
people are bad in life,
295
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they go down?
296
00:13:35,470 --> 00:13:36,736
- Yes.
- Okay.
297
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And when you're a good
guy or a good girl you up?
298
00:13:38,239 --> 00:13:39,172
- Up.
- Yep.
299
00:13:39,274 --> 00:13:41,641
Okay. You're a good guy.
300
00:13:41,743 --> 00:13:42,775
- Thank you.
- Okay.
301
00:13:42,877 --> 00:13:44,577
- You are, too.
- Thank you.
302
00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,779
Appreciate that. All right.
303
00:13:46,881 --> 00:13:48,648
So it sounds like this stuff
is scaring you in the house.
304
00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:50,149
You don't want to be
here alone, I understand?
305
00:13:50,251 --> 00:13:53,219
Yeah, I've been through
a lot in this house.
306
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They're everywhere.
307
00:13:58,393 --> 00:14:00,593
AMY: I'm seeing the
younger dead guy again.
308
00:14:00,695 --> 00:14:01,694
This 20-year-old,
309
00:14:01,796 --> 00:14:04,397
he's squatting down in the closet.
310
00:14:04,499 --> 00:14:07,467
So I think, like, he might
be afraid of me a little bit.
311
00:14:07,569 --> 00:14:09,736
He feels like he can't hurt me,
312
00:14:09,838 --> 00:14:11,871
so he's, like, kind of freaked out.
313
00:14:13,308 --> 00:14:14,507
And he takes his
finger and he's, like...
314
00:14:14,609 --> 00:14:17,477
[Scratching wooden door]
315
00:14:17,579 --> 00:14:19,145
...doing this kind of stuff.
316
00:14:19,247 --> 00:14:23,850
And he's, like, laughing
'cause he knows it's disturbing.
317
00:14:23,952 --> 00:14:26,018
- So, the people hear that?
- Yes.
318
00:14:26,121 --> 00:14:28,521
It's like a spooky, creepy elf.
319
00:14:28,623 --> 00:14:31,624
And he's got, like,
sharp teeth, you know,
320
00:14:31,726 --> 00:14:33,926
um, and long nails.
321
00:14:34,028 --> 00:14:35,194
What does he do?
322
00:14:35,296 --> 00:14:40,333
He wants to physically harm...
323
00:14:40,435 --> 00:14:43,269
punching, slapping,
kicking, or make them sick.
324
00:14:43,371 --> 00:14:47,573
He can hurt vulnerable people.
325
00:14:47,675 --> 00:14:49,942
This is pretty... pretty serious.
326
00:15:02,820 --> 00:15:04,920
STEVE: Mike and Angie didn't
know much about the history
327
00:15:05,022 --> 00:15:06,421
of their property,
328
00:15:06,523 --> 00:15:09,291
so I'm at the local library
to see what I can dig up.
329
00:15:09,393 --> 00:15:10,692
Searching through old records,
330
00:15:10,794 --> 00:15:14,463
I find a brutal rape and
murder of an 8-year-old girl.
331
00:15:14,565 --> 00:15:16,064
Turns out this sick, twisted crime
332
00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:19,801
happened less than a mile
from my client's house.
333
00:15:19,903 --> 00:15:22,571
I'm on my way to meet with
a criminal defense attorney
334
00:15:22,673 --> 00:15:25,641
who says the case remains
a mystery to this day.
335
00:15:31,081 --> 00:15:33,382
The 8-year-old girl
that was murdered
336
00:15:33,484 --> 00:15:35,384
right near my client's property,
what'd you find out about it?
337
00:15:35,486 --> 00:15:37,819
It was November 1955.
338
00:15:37,921 --> 00:15:40,689
Janice May went missing from her house.
339
00:15:40,791 --> 00:15:42,357
Her two brothers went lookin' for her.
340
00:15:42,459 --> 00:15:44,926
Uh, the family dog led
them to the rail road tracks,
341
00:15:45,029 --> 00:15:46,061
and next to the rail road tracks there
342
00:15:46,163 --> 00:15:48,930
was some abandoned mining cars.
343
00:15:49,033 --> 00:15:51,199
There, the brothers found
their sister shoved underneath
344
00:15:51,302 --> 00:15:52,768
one of the cars. Oh, you're kiddin' me.
345
00:15:52,870 --> 00:15:55,270
She had a terrible skull fracture
346
00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:56,972
on the right side of her face.
347
00:15:57,074 --> 00:15:58,240
- Okay.
- There was a concrete block
348
00:15:58,342 --> 00:16:00,075
sitting next to her with blood on it.
349
00:16:00,177 --> 00:16:02,144
She was half-nude.
350
00:16:02,246 --> 00:16:04,413
It was determined she
was sexually assaulted.
351
00:16:04,515 --> 00:16:06,048
Did the police make an arrest?
352
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:08,650
The police interviewed
about 30 different suspects.
353
00:16:08,752 --> 00:16:10,919
Ultimately, they
focused on Lloyd Miller,
354
00:16:11,021 --> 00:16:13,088
a local taxi cab driver.
355
00:16:13,190 --> 00:16:15,490
It turned out that
right after this crime,
356
00:16:15,592 --> 00:16:16,992
he quickly fled town.
357
00:16:17,094 --> 00:16:21,029
They found Lloyd Miller in
a town 150 miles from Canton.
358
00:16:21,131 --> 00:16:22,264
He was at a bus station,
359
00:16:22,366 --> 00:16:25,434
trying to get a bus
ticket to go to Detroit.
360
00:16:25,536 --> 00:16:26,968
They brought him in for questioning.
361
00:16:27,071 --> 00:16:28,236
Miller denied involvement
362
00:16:28,339 --> 00:16:30,105
but after several days of interrogation,
363
00:16:30,207 --> 00:16:31,673
he ultimately confessed.
364
00:16:31,775 --> 00:16:32,974
What do we know about this guy?
365
00:16:33,077 --> 00:16:35,477
At this time, he was 29 years old.
366
00:16:35,579 --> 00:16:38,146
Miller completed the first
two years of high school,
367
00:16:38,248 --> 00:16:39,848
but then he was drafted in the military.
368
00:16:39,950 --> 00:16:42,150
He served in Italy durin' World War II.
369
00:16:42,252 --> 00:16:44,519
After he was discharged,
he came back to the States.
370
00:16:44,621 --> 00:16:46,755
And his dream was to become
an auto mechanic in Detroit.
371
00:16:46,857 --> 00:16:48,557
But he hopped around job to job.
372
00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:52,260
He ultimately joined the
Coast Guard, also the Army.
373
00:16:52,363 --> 00:16:54,429
But he went AWOL three separate times.
374
00:16:54,531 --> 00:16:56,565
He was sent to the stockade each time.
375
00:16:56,667 --> 00:16:57,733
Wow.
376
00:16:57,835 --> 00:16:59,701
He also got in trouble in California.
377
00:16:59,803 --> 00:17:02,170
For what? Uh, he and
a friend stole a car.
378
00:17:02,272 --> 00:17:04,473
He ended up spending 7
months in a prison farm.
379
00:17:04,575 --> 00:17:06,007
So this guy's all over the map.
380
00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:08,510
He was somewhat
unpredictable and impulsive.
381
00:17:08,612 --> 00:17:10,746
He got married four times,
382
00:17:10,848 --> 00:17:12,547
and a couple of these marriages
383
00:17:12,649 --> 00:17:15,050
to women he had only met
for the past few days.
384
00:17:15,152 --> 00:17:16,218
Who the hell does that?
385
00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,053
Sounds like a bit of a whack job.
386
00:17:21,917 --> 00:17:23,249
This 20-year-old,
387
00:17:23,351 --> 00:17:26,452
he doesn't like to think about
his life 'cause it was not good.
388
00:17:26,555 --> 00:17:28,054
It was very bad.
389
00:17:28,156 --> 00:17:29,389
He was a real tough guy.
390
00:17:29,491 --> 00:17:32,225
He was a bully when he was alive.
391
00:17:32,327 --> 00:17:35,428
He got... I think he
got thrown out of school.
392
00:17:35,530 --> 00:17:37,597
He was in and out of prison.
393
00:17:37,699 --> 00:17:39,532
And he hated his [bleep] mother.
394
00:17:39,634 --> 00:17:42,902
Wow. Like, real, like, [bleep] hate.
395
00:17:43,004 --> 00:17:45,939
I'm seeing like a garage...
396
00:17:46,041 --> 00:17:47,407
[Electricity crackles]
397
00:17:47,509 --> 00:17:52,979
...and, like, wrenches and, um, oil.
398
00:17:53,081 --> 00:17:56,616
I wanna say he worked on
cars or something like this.
399
00:17:56,718 --> 00:17:58,384
He's freakin' out.
400
00:17:58,486 --> 00:18:01,187
All right, so how'd the trial go?
401
00:18:01,289 --> 00:18:02,722
The jury convicted him,
402
00:18:02,824 --> 00:18:05,358
and a judge sentenced him to
death by the electric chair.
403
00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:08,094
He had seven different execution dates.
404
00:18:08,196 --> 00:18:10,063
So, Dale, I noticed it
went to the Supreme Court.
405
00:18:10,165 --> 00:18:11,431
Do we know why?
406
00:18:11,533 --> 00:18:13,466
The defense team, throughout
these 10 years of appeals,
407
00:18:13,568 --> 00:18:16,202
started dismantling the state's case.
408
00:18:16,304 --> 00:18:18,504
The so-called confession
that Miller signed,
409
00:18:18,607 --> 00:18:19,706
he never wrote it.
410
00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:21,441
It was written by the police officers.
411
00:18:23,945 --> 00:18:25,945
In February 1967,
412
00:18:26,047 --> 00:18:29,182
the United States Supreme
Court overturned the conviction.
413
00:18:29,284 --> 00:18:31,684
And in March 20th, 1967,
414
00:18:31,786 --> 00:18:33,953
Miller walked out of
death row a free man.
415
00:18:34,055 --> 00:18:35,255
Do we know what happens to him?
416
00:18:35,357 --> 00:18:36,489
He moved to Mexico.
417
00:18:36,591 --> 00:18:38,625
- He got remarried, again.
- [Chuckles]
418
00:18:38,727 --> 00:18:41,361
Uh, he ended up writing a
book about his ordeals here.
419
00:18:41,463 --> 00:18:43,229
Um, he ultimately became a minister.
420
00:18:43,331 --> 00:18:44,964
Do we know if this
guy's still alive today?
421
00:18:45,066 --> 00:18:47,133
No, he's not. He died in 2013
422
00:18:47,235 --> 00:18:50,069
in Reading, Pennsylvania,
at the age of 86.
423
00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:52,739
Did cops back then ever
look into this case again
424
00:18:52,841 --> 00:18:55,541
and look at anybody else,
question anybody else about it?
425
00:18:55,644 --> 00:18:56,910
Not that we could tell.
426
00:18:57,012 --> 00:18:58,411
So it's still an open case?
427
00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:00,246
Yes, it's an unsolved murder.
428
00:19:06,321 --> 00:19:07,820
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429
00:19:07,923 --> 00:19:09,656
unexplained activity in your home,
430
00:19:09,758 --> 00:19:12,458
go to the "Dead Files"
page at travelchannel.com.
431
00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,260
Click on "Help Me, Dead
Files!" to submit your story,
432
00:19:14,362 --> 00:19:15,528
and we'll help if we can.
433
00:19:26,255 --> 00:19:28,755
STEVE: During my research, I
came across several families
434
00:19:28,855 --> 00:19:30,455
who used to own my client's land.
435
00:19:30,557 --> 00:19:33,224
Now one family, the Barrys, stood out.
436
00:19:33,326 --> 00:19:35,593
Three of them died
right on the property.
437
00:19:35,695 --> 00:19:37,395
I'm on my way to meet with a genealogist
438
00:19:37,497 --> 00:19:39,731
who says this family
suffered from illness,
439
00:19:39,833 --> 00:19:41,933
depression, and madness.
440
00:19:46,973 --> 00:19:49,674
So, Julie, thanks for
helpin' me out with my case.
441
00:19:49,776 --> 00:19:52,277
The Barry family... what
can you tell me about them?
442
00:19:52,379 --> 00:19:55,013
Bernard and his wife, Mary, um,
443
00:19:55,115 --> 00:19:56,714
were both Irish immigrants
444
00:19:56,816 --> 00:19:59,083
who came over to the U.S. in the 1850s
445
00:19:59,185 --> 00:20:00,952
- during the potato famine.
- Okay.
446
00:20:01,054 --> 00:20:05,924
Bernard and his wife, Mary,
purchased the property in 1890.
447
00:20:06,026 --> 00:20:07,058
Who moved there with them?
448
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,694
A daughter, Maryann, who was 30.
449
00:20:09,796 --> 00:20:12,266
And then their youngest
daughter, Francis, who was 15.
450
00:20:12,366 --> 00:20:14,466
Now I know there was deaths
associated with family
451
00:20:14,568 --> 00:20:15,801
on the property.
452
00:20:15,903 --> 00:20:17,102
What'd you find out?
453
00:20:17,204 --> 00:20:19,871
Well, the first one occurred in 1915,
454
00:20:19,973 --> 00:20:22,107
and that was Mary, the wife.
455
00:20:22,209 --> 00:20:25,177
Okay. Have her obituary here.
456
00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:30,515
She became ill and
suffered for nearly a year
457
00:20:30,617 --> 00:20:33,318
until she contracted pneumonia
458
00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:36,788
and lived with that
painfully for 5 days, uh,
459
00:20:36,890 --> 00:20:38,657
before she finally passed.
460
00:20:38,759 --> 00:20:40,625
I have a copy of her
death certificate here
461
00:20:40,727 --> 00:20:44,362
which lists pneumonia
as the 'cause of death.
462
00:20:44,465 --> 00:20:46,198
- Oh, she was 82?
- Yeah.
463
00:20:46,300 --> 00:20:50,569
And you know, my mother
suffered same age from emphysema
464
00:20:50,671 --> 00:20:52,337
and wound up dyin' from pneumonia.
465
00:20:52,439 --> 00:20:54,072
- And that's a miserable...
- Yes.
466
00:20:54,174 --> 00:20:55,273
...way of life.
467
00:20:58,812 --> 00:21:01,446
I'm seeing that angry older woman again.
468
00:21:01,548 --> 00:21:06,117
She kinda looks like
an older Irish lady.
469
00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:08,587
I hear, like, "Mabel."
470
00:21:08,689 --> 00:21:11,423
I think she was, like, 70 when she died.
471
00:21:11,525 --> 00:21:14,960
I think she's got, like,
cancer or something.
472
00:21:15,062 --> 00:21:16,394
This is what she dies from.
473
00:21:16,497 --> 00:21:18,763
And this is, like, a long time ago.
474
00:21:18,866 --> 00:21:22,467
I would say this is, like, '20s, '30s?
475
00:21:22,569 --> 00:21:23,869
And the guy's, like, big.
476
00:21:23,971 --> 00:21:26,037
Her husband's, like, a big guy.
477
00:21:26,139 --> 00:21:28,173
They didn't have a good marriage.
478
00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:29,608
And it was the woman,
479
00:21:29,710 --> 00:21:33,078
this little woman who would... you know,
480
00:21:33,180 --> 00:21:35,981
I think she beat the [bleep]
out of her husband all the time.
481
00:21:38,252 --> 00:21:39,918
Like, pretty bad.
482
00:21:40,020 --> 00:21:41,820
This is strange.
483
00:21:41,922 --> 00:21:44,556
Mary's death certificate
lists her son, Bernard Jr.,
484
00:21:44,658 --> 00:21:46,258
as the informant.
485
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:50,028
Yes, we know that Bernard Sr., uh,
486
00:21:50,130 --> 00:21:52,664
was suffering from
dementia when he died.
487
00:21:52,766 --> 00:21:54,065
So it's quite possible
488
00:21:54,167 --> 00:21:57,202
that his son was the informant
on the death certificate
489
00:21:57,304 --> 00:21:58,937
because he might've started
490
00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:01,139
to show signs of dementia at this point.
491
00:22:01,241 --> 00:22:03,875
Okay, so now that Mary's dead,
who's taking care of Bernard?
492
00:22:03,977 --> 00:22:05,744
Their daughter, Maryann,
493
00:22:05,846 --> 00:22:08,480
she's the primary
caregiver for her father,
494
00:22:08,582 --> 00:22:11,449
who's probably continuing
on in his dementia.
495
00:22:11,552 --> 00:22:14,886
At some point, she
gets extremely depressed
496
00:22:14,988 --> 00:22:19,391
and she starves herself,
um, and dies as a result.
497
00:22:19,493 --> 00:22:21,126
- She starved herself to death?
- Yes.
498
00:22:21,228 --> 00:22:24,796
We have a copy of her
death certificate here.
499
00:22:24,898 --> 00:22:26,498
She was 56.
500
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,467
And you'll notice that they
do list a contributing factor
501
00:22:29,570 --> 00:22:31,236
of melancholia.
502
00:22:31,338 --> 00:22:33,171
So what happens to the dad?
503
00:22:33,273 --> 00:22:37,242
By 1926, his suffering finally ends.
504
00:22:37,344 --> 00:22:39,044
- Okay, he...
- He passes away on the property.
505
00:22:39,146 --> 00:22:41,179
Okay, so what's the official
cause of death for him?
506
00:22:41,281 --> 00:22:45,884
Well, his death certificate
lists heart failure
507
00:22:45,986 --> 00:22:49,187
with a contributing factor of senility.
508
00:22:53,761 --> 00:22:55,494
Another thing caught my eye in research.
509
00:22:55,596 --> 00:22:57,896
It was a deadly factory
explosion down the block
510
00:22:57,998 --> 00:22:59,698
from Michael and Angie's house.
511
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,933
I reached out to a
historian who said it was
512
00:23:02,036 --> 00:23:04,903
one of the biggest tragedies
in the town's history.
513
00:23:11,211 --> 00:23:13,879
So I gotta assume this
is where the factory was?
514
00:23:13,981 --> 00:23:15,247
That's right. This was, uh, the location
515
00:23:15,349 --> 00:23:19,217
of the Parlin Orendorff
manufacturing company.
516
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,686
Okay. What did they manufacture?
517
00:23:20,788 --> 00:23:23,789
Well, mostly farm products
and especially the steel plow,
518
00:23:23,891 --> 00:23:26,291
which was so important to
the evolution of farming
519
00:23:26,393 --> 00:23:27,959
in the Midwest.
520
00:23:28,062 --> 00:23:30,429
This is a picture of
how the plant looked
521
00:23:30,531 --> 00:23:32,764
at its very best.
522
00:23:32,866 --> 00:23:34,966
Okay, so the day of the
explosion, what happened?
523
00:23:35,069 --> 00:23:37,502
It was December 18, 1882.
524
00:23:37,604 --> 00:23:39,171
7:00 in the morning, the first shift
525
00:23:39,273 --> 00:23:40,372
had just gone on the job.
526
00:23:40,474 --> 00:23:42,908
7:10, this tremendous explosion occurs.
527
00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:45,410
Debris is shot up into
the air all over town.
528
00:23:45,512 --> 00:23:47,479
It falls in peoples' yards.
529
00:23:47,581 --> 00:23:50,182
Many people thought there
had been an earthquake.
530
00:23:50,284 --> 00:23:52,451
Uh, buildings shook, windows rattled,
531
00:23:52,553 --> 00:23:53,752
people ran out of their houses
532
00:23:53,854 --> 00:23:55,854
to try to find out what was going on.
533
00:23:55,956 --> 00:23:59,224
What had happened was
that three of the boilers,
534
00:23:59,326 --> 00:24:00,926
which were used to generate steam
535
00:24:01,028 --> 00:24:04,763
which powered the equipment
in the plant, had exploded.
536
00:24:04,865 --> 00:24:07,766
The building came down on the
workers, fell down on them,
537
00:24:07,868 --> 00:24:09,167
and a fire was started.
538
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:12,471
Some of the employees who
had escaped the explosion
539
00:24:12,573 --> 00:24:15,340
tried to go in and see if
they could save some people.
540
00:24:15,442 --> 00:24:16,541
Right.
541
00:24:16,643 --> 00:24:18,977
Well, they got in and
found six people dead
542
00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:20,846
- right at their workstation.
- Ah.
543
00:24:20,948 --> 00:24:23,515
And the interesting thing about
that was they died in a position
544
00:24:23,617 --> 00:24:25,384
which suggests they had no idea
545
00:24:25,486 --> 00:24:27,753
that an explosion was about to happen.
546
00:24:27,855 --> 00:24:30,555
They did find four people
who were still living
547
00:24:30,657 --> 00:24:31,823
and they carried them out.
548
00:24:31,925 --> 00:24:33,125
Three of those died.
549
00:24:33,227 --> 00:24:35,594
So the number of people
killed in the explosion
550
00:24:35,696 --> 00:24:37,729
- was nine people killed.
- Nine people killed.
551
00:24:37,831 --> 00:24:39,431
- Yeah.
- And six right at their stations?
552
00:24:39,533 --> 00:24:40,599
That's right. Six never moved.
553
00:24:40,701 --> 00:24:41,800
[Whistles] Yeah. Right.
554
00:24:41,902 --> 00:24:43,602
People must've been like,
"What the hell was that?"
555
00:24:43,704 --> 00:24:44,669
Oh, absolutely.
556
00:24:44,772 --> 00:24:46,037
People from all over town
557
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,306
were... they were just so
startled by this, that it...
558
00:24:48,409 --> 00:24:50,542
they were running to the plant
to find out about what's...
559
00:24:50,644 --> 00:24:52,351
And it so dominated the...
the economy, the area.
560
00:24:52,377 --> 00:24:52,803
Right.
561
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,046
Everybody was concerned about it, yeah.
562
00:25:00,487 --> 00:25:03,655
I feel, like, disoriented.
563
00:25:03,757 --> 00:25:08,126
I am seeing people coming this way
564
00:25:08,228 --> 00:25:12,130
towards the house from...
565
00:25:12,232 --> 00:25:15,233
the dirt driveway from this direction.
566
00:25:15,335 --> 00:25:16,468
Any idea when this was?
567
00:25:16,570 --> 00:25:18,603
Like, the '20s or '30s.
568
00:25:18,705 --> 00:25:21,273
I do here, like, a lot
of yelling and stuff.
569
00:25:24,689 --> 00:25:29,325
There's a lot of commotion,
uh, going on. Like, angry.
570
00:25:29,427 --> 00:25:32,461
Everybody's just
agitated and pissed off.
571
00:25:32,563 --> 00:25:34,663
It's all crazy.
572
00:25:41,005 --> 00:25:43,339
I saw several dead
people during my walk,
573
00:25:43,441 --> 00:25:47,743
but the 20-year-old bully
concerned me the most.
574
00:25:47,845 --> 00:25:49,512
He's white.
575
00:25:49,614 --> 00:25:52,181
His face shape was more squared.
576
00:25:52,283 --> 00:25:55,651
And he had a weird-kinda look.
577
00:25:55,753 --> 00:25:58,521
Next, I described how
he torments the living.
578
00:25:58,623 --> 00:26:00,489
He's in the closet
579
00:26:00,591 --> 00:26:03,592
and he's, like, scratching his
finger down the closet door.
580
00:26:03,694 --> 00:26:05,594
And it's just, like, a black hole.
581
00:26:05,696 --> 00:26:11,167
In the room, there's a
kid being freaked out.
582
00:26:13,538 --> 00:26:15,805
Amy, is this what you saw?
583
00:26:15,907 --> 00:26:17,606
Yes, that's what I saw.
584
00:26:38,166 --> 00:26:41,033
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
585
00:26:41,135 --> 00:26:42,835
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
586
00:26:42,937 --> 00:26:45,972
and our clients for the first time.
587
00:26:46,074 --> 00:26:48,407
Amy, I'd like you to
meet Mike and Angie.
588
00:26:48,509 --> 00:26:51,143
They're a great,
down-to-Earth couple, uh,
589
00:26:51,245 --> 00:26:53,879
who are going through a
hell of a time in this house.
590
00:26:53,982 --> 00:26:57,850
But this is the reason I took this case.
591
00:26:57,952 --> 00:26:59,752
This is their son, Layne.
592
00:26:59,854 --> 00:27:01,087
Now Layne is 7,
593
00:27:01,189 --> 00:27:04,190
and he's basically scared
to death in his own house.
594
00:27:04,292 --> 00:27:06,425
The activity here is
ruining his childhood.
595
00:27:06,527 --> 00:27:10,696
And they're worried now
that even their daughter,
596
00:27:10,798 --> 00:27:13,265
Hannelore, is startin'
to have these experiences.
597
00:27:13,368 --> 00:27:15,434
Mike and Angie don't know
how to protect their kids,
598
00:27:15,536 --> 00:27:17,336
and they're desperate for help.
599
00:27:17,438 --> 00:27:20,206
So now that Amy knows a little
bit about your family dynamics,
600
00:27:20,308 --> 00:27:21,541
I'll have her describe her walk for us.
601
00:27:23,266 --> 00:27:25,366
There's several conscious entities
602
00:27:25,468 --> 00:27:26,868
who are very active here.
603
00:27:26,970 --> 00:27:29,170
The first one was an elderly woman
604
00:27:29,272 --> 00:27:32,740
who has major anger control issues.
605
00:27:32,842 --> 00:27:35,610
And I encountered her upstairs.
606
00:27:35,712 --> 00:27:39,380
Her energy is really horrendous.
607
00:27:39,482 --> 00:27:44,318
The living would feel
her stress and her fear
608
00:27:44,420 --> 00:27:47,421
and this oppressive anxiety.
609
00:27:47,524 --> 00:27:49,023
And she's always watching.
610
00:27:49,125 --> 00:27:52,159
Uh, that's her big thing. You
know, Amy, you might've noticed
611
00:27:52,262 --> 00:27:54,028
the upstairs is under construction.
612
00:27:54,130 --> 00:27:56,564
Mike's been tryin' to turn
it into a master bedroom.
613
00:27:56,666 --> 00:27:58,733
Why don't you explain to
Amy why it's not finished?
614
00:27:58,835 --> 00:28:01,636
That is almost a
5-year-long project.
615
00:28:01,738 --> 00:28:04,939
When I'm up there, I
have so much bad feelings,
616
00:28:05,041 --> 00:28:06,974
I just can't get any work done up there.
617
00:28:07,076 --> 00:28:08,042
It's like somebody's just sittin' there,
618
00:28:08,144 --> 00:28:09,143
starin' right at me.
619
00:28:09,245 --> 00:28:11,279
It freaks the hell outta me.
620
00:28:11,381 --> 00:28:14,081
So this old, cranky woman...
any idea who she might've been?
621
00:28:14,183 --> 00:28:16,250
She lived here with her husband.
622
00:28:16,352 --> 00:28:18,786
They had a terrible marriage.
623
00:28:18,888 --> 00:28:21,455
And interestingly, she beat him.
624
00:28:21,558 --> 00:28:23,024
[Whispers] Oh, my.
625
00:28:23,126 --> 00:28:24,892
Yeah. And he was, like, a big guy,
626
00:28:24,994 --> 00:28:26,127
and she was really short.
627
00:28:26,229 --> 00:28:27,995
She was, like, 5 feet tall.
628
00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:29,597
I think she was from Ireland.
629
00:28:29,699 --> 00:28:31,032
I got the name Mabel.
630
00:28:31,134 --> 00:28:33,501
She was in her 70s when she died,
631
00:28:33,603 --> 00:28:36,203
and I think it was cancer.
632
00:28:36,306 --> 00:28:37,471
It's a long shot,
633
00:28:37,574 --> 00:28:39,273
but one of the original
owners on the property
634
00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:40,741
was an Irish woman.
635
00:28:40,843 --> 00:28:42,543
Her name wasn't Mabel, but it was Mary.
636
00:28:42,645 --> 00:28:44,378
Mary Barry was her name.
637
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,882
She and her husband, Bernard,
moved onto the property in 1890.
638
00:28:47,984 --> 00:28:49,150
They were older when they moved here.
639
00:28:49,252 --> 00:28:50,484
They were both in their 50s.
640
00:28:50,587 --> 00:28:52,954
But the husband, Bernard,
started to lose his mind.
641
00:28:53,056 --> 00:28:54,855
He started havin' dementia.
642
00:28:54,958 --> 00:28:56,924
Mary may have had a hard
time takin' care of him.
643
00:28:57,026 --> 00:29:00,194
In 1915, Mary came down
with terrible illness.
644
00:29:00,296 --> 00:29:02,763
The official cause
of death is pneumonia.
645
00:29:04,734 --> 00:29:07,568
Now the woman you saw, you
said might've died in her 70s.
646
00:29:07,670 --> 00:29:10,471
Uh, Mary Barry was 82 when she died.
647
00:29:10,573 --> 00:29:11,772
Okay.
648
00:29:11,874 --> 00:29:14,375
Now she had a daughter
who died a horrible death
649
00:29:14,477 --> 00:29:17,111
on the property as
well, only 3 years later.
650
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:19,213
Mm. Her name was Maryann.
651
00:29:19,315 --> 00:29:20,915
She was takin' care of her dad,
652
00:29:21,017 --> 00:29:23,751
and she got extremely depressed
653
00:29:23,853 --> 00:29:26,454
and she starved herself to death.
654
00:29:26,556 --> 00:29:28,456
Now Bernard stayed on the property
655
00:29:28,558 --> 00:29:31,292
and he sank deeper and
deeper into this illness.
656
00:29:31,394 --> 00:29:33,260
And he died about 10 years later.
657
00:29:33,363 --> 00:29:35,463
Now, could Mary be the woman you saw?
658
00:29:35,565 --> 00:29:37,231
'Cause you said she was
a housewife and Irish.
659
00:29:37,333 --> 00:29:38,833
- I believe so, yes.
- Okay.
660
00:29:38,935 --> 00:29:40,434
I do. Could she be the reason
661
00:29:40,536 --> 00:29:42,603
Mike's so uncomfortable
on the second floor?
662
00:29:42,705 --> 00:29:44,305
Yeah.
663
00:29:44,407 --> 00:29:47,241
The other thing is, you're
kinda the same, like,
664
00:29:47,343 --> 00:29:51,979
build and height as her husband.
665
00:29:52,081 --> 00:29:55,483
So I wonder if she's...
666
00:29:55,585 --> 00:29:56,984
Confusing me with him?
667
00:29:57,086 --> 00:29:58,386
Yeah.
668
00:30:02,525 --> 00:30:03,991
What else did you see on the walk?
669
00:30:04,767 --> 00:30:07,601
So then I came down here.
670
00:30:07,704 --> 00:30:08,736
I did not like it.
671
00:30:08,838 --> 00:30:10,738
I felt, like, very dizzy.
672
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,542
And then I saw this
little man down here.
673
00:30:14,644 --> 00:30:17,445
He was chubby. He was in his 50s.
674
00:30:17,547 --> 00:30:22,583
And his favorite area is
over in the corner over there.
675
00:30:22,685 --> 00:30:24,418
He likes that.
676
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,254
He can get very
aggressive with the living
677
00:30:27,357 --> 00:30:28,856
when they come down here.
678
00:30:28,958 --> 00:30:30,458
You'll actually kinda feel him, like,
679
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,662
barreling towards you,
invading your space.
680
00:30:34,764 --> 00:30:38,866
And he also does shove and push.
681
00:30:38,968 --> 00:30:41,235
Tell her the story about
the old man you saw.
682
00:30:41,337 --> 00:30:43,704
I was down here putting
together the pool table,
683
00:30:43,806 --> 00:30:45,072
and I just happened to look up.
684
00:30:45,174 --> 00:30:47,174
All I could see was his
shoulders and his face
685
00:30:47,276 --> 00:30:48,576
in that window.
686
00:30:48,678 --> 00:30:51,512
And I sat here, petrified,
for about 5 minutes, just,
687
00:30:51,614 --> 00:30:53,114
"Am I seein' what I'm seein'?"
688
00:30:53,216 --> 00:30:54,548
And the reason that window's black
689
00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:56,016
is 'cause I painted it black.
690
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,719
- Oh, [Bleep].
- Yeah.
691
00:30:58,821 --> 00:31:02,556
I feel like he's, like,
right here, creeping on me.
692
00:31:02,658 --> 00:31:04,191
STEVE: Tell her about
when you got bumped.
693
00:31:04,293 --> 00:31:06,293
I was down her doin'
laundry, I was folding it.
694
00:31:06,396 --> 00:31:09,397
Um, all of a sudden from the back,
695
00:31:09,499 --> 00:31:10,998
he, like, bumped into me.
696
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,567
- Mm.
- Like, you can feel it.
697
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:15,436
I'm thinkin' you're seein' her husband.
698
00:31:15,538 --> 00:31:17,638
- The husband with dementia?
- Yeah.
699
00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:19,407
I wonder if this guy's watchin' you now.
700
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:20,608
Without a doubt.
701
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:22,777
He's always there.
702
00:31:22,879 --> 00:31:24,545
We're not gonna provoke him.
703
00:31:28,584 --> 00:31:30,484
STEVE: So what else did you see?
704
00:31:30,586 --> 00:31:32,286
Uh, went into the yellow room...
705
00:31:32,388 --> 00:31:33,320
Which is Layne's room.
706
00:31:33,423 --> 00:31:37,091
And, uh, I saw a
dead 20-year-old.
707
00:31:37,193 --> 00:31:38,459
He's a bully,
708
00:31:38,561 --> 00:31:42,229
and he likes to prey on
the weak and the vulnerable.
709
00:31:42,331 --> 00:31:46,500
The thing about him, he
can take different forms.
710
00:31:46,602 --> 00:31:50,404
So, like, I saw him
acting like a creepy elf.
711
00:31:50,506 --> 00:31:53,607
He has, like, the pointed
ears, sharp teeth, long nails.
712
00:31:53,709 --> 00:31:55,810
- [Sighs heavily]
- And his eyes can get really, you know,
713
00:31:55,912 --> 00:31:57,945
he'll make 'em dark and evil-looking.
714
00:31:58,047 --> 00:32:00,314
He can cause illness,
715
00:32:00,416 --> 00:32:06,587
but what he would prefer to
do is punch or kick or slap.
716
00:32:06,689 --> 00:32:11,125
He wants to be physical
with this person.
717
00:32:11,227 --> 00:32:12,860
Well, that's why we're here.
718
00:32:12,962 --> 00:32:15,029
Layne and I spoke for a long time,
719
00:32:15,131 --> 00:32:19,533
and he had too many
experiences to go through.
720
00:32:19,635 --> 00:32:22,069
When you mentioned
this elf-like creature,
721
00:32:22,171 --> 00:32:26,006
Angie, tell Amy how Layne
describes how he sees the devil.
722
00:32:26,108 --> 00:32:27,475
He hyperventilated.
723
00:32:27,577 --> 00:32:31,178
Like, he couldn't even
talk about what he'd seen.
724
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,315
He'd explain it like he's
holding onto his toy chest
725
00:32:34,417 --> 00:32:36,484
and, like... like smiling, like,
726
00:32:36,586 --> 00:32:38,085
"Yeah, I'm gonna getcha."
727
00:32:38,187 --> 00:32:40,054
Like, to scare him.
728
00:32:40,156 --> 00:32:42,623
It breaks my heart to look at this,
729
00:32:42,725 --> 00:32:45,192
but this is what he says he sees.
730
00:32:45,294 --> 00:32:46,393
Wow.
731
00:32:46,496 --> 00:32:48,395
And he said to me, it's the devil.
732
00:32:48,498 --> 00:32:52,266
I had a sketch done of what
I saw goin' on in the room.
733
00:32:59,242 --> 00:33:01,242
Oh, this poor kid.
734
00:33:04,814 --> 00:33:06,313
[Whispers] Oh, my God.
735
00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:12,686
Sorry.
736
00:33:12,788 --> 00:33:15,389
[Crying]
737
00:33:15,491 --> 00:33:16,724
Sorry.
738
00:33:19,829 --> 00:33:23,197
It's just not fair,
you know? [Sniffles]
739
00:33:23,299 --> 00:33:26,100
That it scares him,
and I can't protect him.
740
00:33:29,906 --> 00:33:32,339
Now Layne told me that
he thinks he's open.
741
00:33:32,441 --> 00:33:33,440
- Yes.
- Yeah.
742
00:33:33,543 --> 00:33:34,942
Really?
743
00:33:35,044 --> 00:33:36,644
He talks like he's 40.
744
00:33:36,746 --> 00:33:39,380
And it scares kids away.
745
00:33:39,482 --> 00:33:43,083
I got a message from a
parent saying that they just
746
00:33:43,185 --> 00:33:45,419
don't want their child
to hang out with Layne.
747
00:33:47,423 --> 00:33:48,956
Him sounding
like a 40-year-old
748
00:33:49,058 --> 00:33:51,892
is pretty common with
sensitives 'cause basically,
749
00:33:51,994 --> 00:33:54,695
they've really been
surrounded by subject matter
750
00:33:54,797 --> 00:33:57,398
that is way beyond their years.
751
00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:59,600
The dead come and they show and tell you
752
00:33:59,702 --> 00:34:01,335
their entire life story...
753
00:34:01,437 --> 00:34:02,703
Whoa.
754
00:34:02,805 --> 00:34:04,672
...before they can move on.
755
00:34:04,774 --> 00:34:06,607
STEVE: So we think Layne's a medium.
756
00:34:06,709 --> 00:34:08,742
- Yeah.
- [Sniffles]
757
00:34:13,416 --> 00:34:17,585
I then followed the dead
guy into the master bedroom.
758
00:34:17,687 --> 00:34:20,688
I saw him with a living woman
759
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:24,858
and I saw the dead man being
sexually inappropriate with her,
760
00:34:24,961 --> 00:34:28,762
maybe putting sexual
thoughts into her mind.
761
00:34:28,864 --> 00:34:32,132
In the bathroom, uh, if I
take showers late at night,
762
00:34:32,234 --> 00:34:34,301
there's definitely a male in there,
763
00:34:34,403 --> 00:34:35,936
to the point where it was after midnight
764
00:34:36,038 --> 00:34:39,006
and I yelled, "Get out!"
765
00:34:39,108 --> 00:34:40,574
I also felt this guy
766
00:34:40,676 --> 00:34:44,278
would make this living woman
feel restless and anxious,
767
00:34:44,380 --> 00:34:46,347
and I saw her pacing around.
768
00:34:46,449 --> 00:34:48,649
And she's having weird,
intrusive thoughts,
769
00:34:48,751 --> 00:34:51,585
like she wants to run
away and leave this life.
770
00:34:51,687 --> 00:34:55,789
I do have, um, restless
nights, lots of restless nights.
771
00:34:55,891 --> 00:34:58,492
Okay.
772
00:34:58,594 --> 00:35:01,695
Do you have any idea who this
guy might have been in life?
773
00:35:01,797 --> 00:35:04,865
I know he had a very bad
life, very rough life.
774
00:35:04,967 --> 00:35:09,069
I got that he was from
the '30s and the '40s.
775
00:35:09,171 --> 00:35:12,970
Uh, a bully in life,
just like he is in death,
776
00:35:13,070 --> 00:35:15,670
and he either dropped out
of school or was kicked out.
777
00:35:15,772 --> 00:35:18,239
I wasn't sure I got
the whole story on that.
778
00:35:18,341 --> 00:35:21,042
Um, he was in and out of prisons.
779
00:35:21,144 --> 00:35:25,480
And I saw him with oil and
wrenches and in a garage,
780
00:35:25,582 --> 00:35:27,782
so I think he worked on cars as well.
781
00:35:27,884 --> 00:35:29,551
That was like,
his... his thing.
782
00:35:29,653 --> 00:35:32,687
Uh, and I'm not sure
when or how he died.
783
00:35:32,789 --> 00:35:34,689
You said the guy was
in and out of prison,
784
00:35:34,791 --> 00:35:36,791
high school dropout, worked on cars.
785
00:35:36,893 --> 00:35:40,428
So I do have one guy in my
research that fits that bill.
786
00:35:40,530 --> 00:35:43,665
In 1955, there was an
8-year-old girl named Janice May
787
00:35:43,767 --> 00:35:46,334
who was found beaten
and sexually assaulted
788
00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:48,136
4,000 feet from your property.
789
00:35:48,238 --> 00:35:51,372
I got a photo of her here.
790
00:35:51,475 --> 00:35:53,875
She was unconscious but
alive, taken to the hospital,
791
00:35:53,977 --> 00:35:56,010
and died an hour later.
792
00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,446
They ended up arresting
a 29-year-old male
793
00:35:58,548 --> 00:36:00,115
by the name of Lloyd Miller,
794
00:36:00,217 --> 00:36:02,951
who was a taxi driver in town.
795
00:36:03,053 --> 00:36:05,887
I got a picture of this guy right here.
796
00:36:05,989 --> 00:36:08,556
Oh, [Bleep].
797
00:36:08,658 --> 00:36:11,493
Now, this guy sounds a lot like
the guy you met in Layne's room.
798
00:36:11,595 --> 00:36:14,129
He was a high school dropout,
he was in the Coast Guard
799
00:36:14,231 --> 00:36:17,031
and the Army, but went
AWOL three separate times.
800
00:36:17,134 --> 00:36:19,534
In his early 20s, he
stole a car in California
801
00:36:19,636 --> 00:36:22,370
and spent 7 months in a prison farm.
802
00:36:22,472 --> 00:36:25,607
His dream was to work as
an auto mechanic in Detroit,
803
00:36:25,709 --> 00:36:28,676
but he drifted from job to
job, mostly as a laborer.
804
00:36:28,778 --> 00:36:31,279
After the murder, they
found him 150 miles away
805
00:36:31,381 --> 00:36:33,014
on his way to Detroit,
806
00:36:33,116 --> 00:36:34,449
and they arrested him.
807
00:36:34,551 --> 00:36:37,519
After 2 days of interrogation,
he confessed to the murder.
808
00:36:37,621 --> 00:36:39,521
Now later on, he recanted
809
00:36:39,623 --> 00:36:42,123
and said he was coerced
into this confession,
810
00:36:42,225 --> 00:36:43,424
but he was convicted
811
00:36:43,527 --> 00:36:45,760
and sentenced to the electric chair.
812
00:36:45,862 --> 00:36:47,829
Now eventually, it was found
813
00:36:47,931 --> 00:36:50,598
that the prosecution
fudged some of the evidence.
814
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,068
In 1967, the Supreme Court
overturned his conviction.
815
00:36:54,171 --> 00:36:55,670
He was a free man.
816
00:36:55,772 --> 00:36:58,873
He wind out moving to
Mexico, got married,
817
00:36:58,975 --> 00:37:00,308
and became a minister.
818
00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:02,810
- Are you freaking kidding me?
- No.
819
00:37:02,913 --> 00:37:04,312
He came back to the States
820
00:37:04,414 --> 00:37:06,714
and he died in Reading,
Pennsylvania, in 2013
821
00:37:06,816 --> 00:37:07,949
at the age of 86.
822
00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:09,751
[Whispers] Oh, my gosh.
823
00:37:11,555 --> 00:37:12,921
Wow.
824
00:37:13,023 --> 00:37:15,423
STEVE: All right, now do you
think this guy could be Miller?
825
00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:17,892
I had a sketch done of him, so...
826
00:37:19,496 --> 00:37:20,862
All right. [Sighs]
827
00:37:21,765 --> 00:37:24,999
Well, he's 29 in this photo.
828
00:37:28,939 --> 00:37:30,238
Wow.
829
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:31,806
Take a look at this.
830
00:37:31,908 --> 00:37:33,675
Oh.
831
00:37:35,845 --> 00:37:37,712
MIKE: Whoa.
832
00:37:37,814 --> 00:37:41,683
Like... to me, it's identical.
Like, the nose, the lips...
833
00:37:41,785 --> 00:37:43,284
STEVE: The... the
nose and the lips is...
834
00:37:43,386 --> 00:37:44,919
The eyebrows.
835
00:37:47,057 --> 00:37:48,356
So this son of a [bleep]
836
00:37:48,458 --> 00:37:50,758
Is the one acting like
a devil to a 7-year-old?
837
00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:52,594
Yes.
838
00:37:56,569 --> 00:37:58,002
This guy totally did this.
839
00:37:58,104 --> 00:37:59,537
I want to grab the son of a [bleep]
840
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,172
By his [bleep] throat right now.
841
00:38:01,274 --> 00:38:03,441
I'm really pissed off.
842
00:38:03,543 --> 00:38:05,043
It's on.
843
00:38:19,454 --> 00:38:20,853
So this son of a [bleep]
844
00:38:20,955 --> 00:38:23,422
Is the one acting like
a devil to a 7-year-old?
845
00:38:23,524 --> 00:38:25,291
Yes.
846
00:38:28,796 --> 00:38:31,063
This guy totally did this.
847
00:38:31,165 --> 00:38:32,498
I want to grab the son of a [bleep]
848
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:33,699
By his [bleep] throat right now.
849
00:38:33,801 --> 00:38:35,101
I'm really pissed off.
850
00:38:35,203 --> 00:38:37,303
It's on.
851
00:38:40,075 --> 00:38:42,108
STEVE: So why is this dirt bag here?
852
00:38:42,210 --> 00:38:45,011
When he died, he came right back
853
00:38:45,113 --> 00:38:48,247
to his favorite memory
and his happiest moment,
854
00:38:48,349 --> 00:38:50,750
which would be killing that child.
855
00:38:50,852 --> 00:38:52,218
And then you guys moved in.
856
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,121
And he's drawn to Layne
because of his abilities.
857
00:38:55,223 --> 00:38:57,557
And then the sexual thing
is coming out, unfortunately,
858
00:38:57,659 --> 00:38:59,158
in... in your direction.
859
00:39:01,663 --> 00:39:05,465
[Crickets chirping]
860
00:39:05,567 --> 00:39:07,133
So, Mike and Angie, when we spoke,
861
00:39:07,235 --> 00:39:10,203
you guys told me family comes first
862
00:39:10,305 --> 00:39:12,305
and you'd do anything
to protect your kids.
863
00:39:12,407 --> 00:39:14,640
Now I'm gonna find out
exactly what that's gonna take,
864
00:39:14,743 --> 00:39:16,542
and for that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
865
00:39:22,417 --> 00:39:28,821
The main person I want involved
is to be a male who's a medium.
866
00:39:28,923 --> 00:39:34,160
And I want this male to
be a pretty tough cookie.
867
00:39:34,262 --> 00:39:38,598
I want him to then deal
with the elderly female.
868
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,100
This is going to be a process,
869
00:39:41,202 --> 00:39:44,170
and it's probably not gonna
be a pleasant one for him
870
00:39:44,272 --> 00:39:47,240
because he does need to
be aggressive with her.
871
00:39:47,342 --> 00:39:49,675
Once she goes, her husband'll go.
872
00:39:49,778 --> 00:39:53,112
Then I want him to come
back with a demonologist
873
00:39:53,214 --> 00:39:55,414
to get rid of him.
874
00:39:55,517 --> 00:39:57,250
And I don't think he has
any intentions of moving on
875
00:39:57,352 --> 00:40:01,053
because he is perfectly
happy where he is.
876
00:40:01,156 --> 00:40:04,090
That's when the demonologist
is going to take over,
877
00:40:04,192 --> 00:40:08,628
and that person will perform
an exorcism of the location.
878
00:40:08,730 --> 00:40:12,498
And they will remove him
and send him on his way.
879
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,968
So once all that's taken care
of, I want you to buy a lock
880
00:40:16,070 --> 00:40:18,137
and put it on Layne's closet door.
881
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,940
Putting it on will give
him a sense of empowerment,
882
00:40:21,042 --> 00:40:23,042
where he's taking
control of the situation
883
00:40:23,144 --> 00:40:27,480
and he's locking them in
there and away from him
884
00:40:27,582 --> 00:40:29,782
so they can't invade his space.
885
00:40:29,884 --> 00:40:32,051
The other thing is,
is I'll be sending you
886
00:40:32,153 --> 00:40:34,687
some guided meditations.
887
00:40:34,789 --> 00:40:38,057
And these guided
mediations are very simple
888
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:42,428
and they are for balancing,
grounding, and protection.
889
00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:45,598
They're so basic, but
they're so important.
890
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:48,467
He needs to integrate
these into... into his life.
891
00:40:48,570 --> 00:40:50,102
Will he ever have a normal childhood,
892
00:40:50,205 --> 00:40:51,571
or is this gonna be something
he's gonna have to deal with?
893
00:40:51,673 --> 00:40:54,874
Well, yeah, he's gonna
have to deal with it, like,
894
00:40:54,976 --> 00:40:57,210
his whole life.
895
00:40:57,312 --> 00:40:58,945
Now Hannelore,
896
00:40:59,047 --> 00:41:01,214
you consider her somebody
that's gonna have abilities,
897
00:41:01,316 --> 00:41:03,182
or is she just open because of her age?
898
00:41:03,284 --> 00:41:06,252
Right now, it's just because of her age.
899
00:41:06,354 --> 00:41:10,156
When might they find out when
If she's gonna be like Layne?
900
00:41:10,832 --> 00:41:12,865
Between 5 and 8.
901
00:41:12,967 --> 00:41:15,435
At least we'll know how
to handle it, you know,
902
00:41:15,537 --> 00:41:17,837
with her, doing it with him.
903
00:41:17,939 --> 00:41:20,973
Sounds like a little bit
of work, but I'm on it.
904
00:41:21,075 --> 00:41:23,910
And this solution is
gonna help them both.
905
00:41:24,012 --> 00:41:24,977
Are you gonna take Amy's advice?
906
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:26,546
- Oh, yeah.
- Absolutely.
907
00:41:26,648 --> 00:41:28,214
- No doubts.
- STEVE: Okay.
908
00:41:28,316 --> 00:41:29,515
Mm-hmm.
909
00:41:30,418 --> 00:41:32,218
AMY: I really hope Mike and Angie
910
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,821
follow my advice and contact
a male medium and demonologist
911
00:41:34,923 --> 00:41:37,256
to remove the dead
terrorizing their family.
912
00:41:37,358 --> 00:41:38,324
Once they're gone,
913
00:41:38,426 --> 00:41:40,526
Layne can learn to manage his abilities,
914
00:41:40,628 --> 00:41:42,528
and this family will find the peace
915
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:44,096
they've been searching for.
916
00:41:44,146 --> 00:41:48,696
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