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Somebody's bleeding in here.
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My back was burning,
and there was a bite mark
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on the small of my back.
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Oh, my god.
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They're hanging on to my [bleep] spine.
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He stabs her approximately 50 times.
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50 times?
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It's like [Hisses]
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I think people are gonna
end up getting hurt.
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Threatening, "I'm going to get you."
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That thing's nasty.
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There's a dark presence.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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These things, they're freaking out.
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They're from hell.
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I see dead people.
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They were being hunted.
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I speak to dead people.
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They were setting people on fire,
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burning them alive.
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And they speak to me.
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Her neck got broken.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I hear a gunshot.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Something's not right here.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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It's not safe here.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Are any of them buried on the property?
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They're all buried here.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end...
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I can't do it no more.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Holy [bleep] Look at this.
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Or time to get out.
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It does not have a happy ending.
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Something kills people here.
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- Sync and corrected by TheDelta -
- www.addic7ed.com -
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I'm up here in North Haven, Connecticut,
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right near Yale University.
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I got a call from a kid named Anthony.
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Now, he just got married
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and moved back into his parents'
house with his new husband.
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Once he did that, all hell broke loose.
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Now he thinks his entire
family's in trouble.
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He begged us to come
out here and investigate.
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Hopefully, Amy and I can
get to the bottom of this.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
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I clear the house of
any leading information,
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removing photographs and
covering personal items.
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When I'm done, the location
will be ready for tonight's walk.
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There's this older lady.
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She is kind of a leader.
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Interesting. Okay.
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She's not happy I'm
here, like, not at all.
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The old woman,
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and two dead elderly men are with her.
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She can manipulate them very easily.
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She's very physical.
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So are her little henchmen.
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Their intentions are not good.
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STEVE: So, Anthony, I'm glad I'm here
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because you sounded really
desperate on the phone.
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Yeah, I'm living in hell.
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I'm terrified to come in this house.
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We need help.
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I can't do this where
I see my mom crying,
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and everyone is miserable, and...
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Okay. So who else is in the house?
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Here is actually my whole family.
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Okay. So who's who here?
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- This is my brother, Richard.
- Okay.
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- That's my mom.
- Okay.
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That's my dad. He's actually a cop.
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- Your father's a cop?
- Yeah.
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And that's my younger brother, Louie.
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- Okay.
- And then, that's me.
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Now, Anthony, you
mentioned that you think
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things got worse when
you and Carlos moved in.
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Yeah.
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Think that kind of caused
or triggered something?
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Seems like it, yeah. It
seems like it made it angry.
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Okay. So what kind of
things are we talking about?
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We're hearing noises, footsteps,
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and things are disappearing, moving.
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We're seeing apparitions,
physical attacks, and illnesses.
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What kind of illnesses we talking about?
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Headaches, blurred
vision, dizziness, nausea.
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And recently, I was
actually hospitalized
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with a heart condition.
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How old are you?
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22.
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So what was the heart condition about?
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I had a really bad chest pain,
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and when I was in the hospital,
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they couldn't figure out what it was.
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Are you doing any kind of
dope, any kind of drugs,
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anything like that?
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Don't [bleep] with me.
I'm serious about that.
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Never.
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Okay. Why don't you just move?
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This is my childhood home.
I would love to stay here.
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But whatever it is, is
ruining us as a family,
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and it's, like, tearing us apart,
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and we need help.
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I think people are gonna
end up getting hurt.
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Okay.
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Oh, no.
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I'm having a heart issue in here.
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I think that there's a living male
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who's having heart problems.
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The elderly group of people
is influencing this person
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because they're vulnerable.
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He already has medical issues,
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and they're taking advantage of that.
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It's kind of scary because
they could cause this person
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to have a heart attack and die.
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They try to get him when he's alone.
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[Bleep]
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[Sighing heavily]
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Ugh, okay.
I'm...
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I'm feeling it a little bit.
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He gets panicked and freaked out.
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I don't know why they're
trying to kill him.
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All right. So what's going on?
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I call it the top hat man.
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It's just pure black.
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It's, like, a silhouette of a man...
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- Okay.
- with a top hat.
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Any kind of features?
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- No.
- Okay.
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It's just solid black.
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Okay. And you saw that in which bedroom?
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- In my bedroom.
- In this one?
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Yes.
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Just standing there.
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Now, is anything else going on?
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We've seen blood, actual,
physical blood within the house.
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- Where?
- In this hallway,
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in the bathroom,
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down the stairs and right in
front of the basement door.
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All right. So let me get this straight.
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We're talking about actual what
you think is physical blood?
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Yes.
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Now, you got a red
light in the bathroom.
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Yes.
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You sure it couldn't have been water
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that looked like blood
because of the light?
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Nope.
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You guys have any pets at that time?
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We did. We had a dog.
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My dad had checked the
whole dog, checked his paws,
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- checked everything.
- What did he think?
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He tried everything he could
to figure out what it was.
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I remember he got my mom's nail polish.
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He got her lipstick.
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And nothing could match
what was on the floor.
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This is some
off-the-wall stuff.
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Yeah.
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This blood thing's a first
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in all these investigations I've done.
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I've never heard anything like this.
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When I was growing up,
I had seen a lot of stuff
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in this house.
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But now, it's actually almost
like it's interacting with us,
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like, attacking people.
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Somebody's bleeding in here.
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I'm seeing hands and
blood, blood on the floor.
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How much? Where?
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Quite a bit.
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Definitely goes out the door.
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I don't know where it goes, though.
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So, Carlos, I understand you and Anthony
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moved in here a year ago.
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- Yes.
- And I understand
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that you've had experiences.
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Yes. We were downstairs,
and we were on the couch.
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And all the sudden, the
blanket that was on the couch,
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just, like, someone picked
it up and dropped it.
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Were you guys awake, or...?
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Yeah, we were awake.
We were watching TV.
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And nobody was in the house
playing games with you guys?
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No. We were alone downstairs.
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I can't even think what
the hell nonparanormal
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that would've caused that.
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Anything else like that happen?
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Yeah, there was a banging
at the end of the bed.
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So we're talking about one of these?
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Yeah.
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It woke me up.
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But I didn't open my
eyes 'cause I was scared
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- to see what was there.
- Okay.
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So that's happened several times.
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And this is when the two of
you guys were in bed together?
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Yes.
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I've had cases before where dead people
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may not approve of your lifestyle.
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We've thought of that.
Anthony's mom thinks it's me.
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- You?
- Yes.
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And why's she think that?
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Well, she says that when I
first started coming here,
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that's when the activity picked up.
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You ever think about just moving?
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No. Well, we know that
we love each other,
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and we're gonna be together, so
we're gonna fight this together.
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There's a living person getting shoved,
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but it's against the wall.
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Like, they're coming
out, and they're like...
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La, la-la-la-la!...
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And then just like, "Ow."
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Like, you know what I mean?
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And this is a male, yeah.
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I'm feeling a younger male.
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He's kind of metrosexual.
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The person being shoved into the walls
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is due to the elderly
woman and her henchmen.
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I don't know why these
dead people are doing this.
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It's causing, like, a breakdown.
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It's really horrible.
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STEVE: So, Terry, I
was talking to Anthony.
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He thinks that when he
moved in here with Carlos,
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that things kind of amped up.
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I agree.
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Do you think it has to
do with their lifestyle,
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or do you think it's because
Carlos is new to the house?
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I'm not sure if it's because they're gay
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or if it's because we
brought someone new in
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and whatever is here didn't want it.
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I mean, how did you, if
you don't mind me asking,
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take the news that
Anthony was... was gay?
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Um, not very well.
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It took a while to get through that.
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And I struggled with
the fact that I felt
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that I was never gonna have
grandchildren or anything.
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So, Terry, let's get to you.
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What about your
experiences? What's going on?
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I've been touched in my sleep.
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Okay. In what manner?
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Just a push on my shoulder.
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First, I thought I was dreaming,
but you know how you come to,
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and you realize you're not dreaming?
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It terrified me so bad.
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My husband was working overnight.
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So I called him home,
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had him come home and stay with me.
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So what else is going on?
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I have a really difficult time sleeping.
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I have a lot of nightmares.
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I wake up terrified,
and I don't know why.
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You can't sleep. It's scary to sleep.
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Whoa. There's a lot of anxiety up here.
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Lots of fear in living people here.
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They can't sleep.
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They can't eat.
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This is really bad. Okay.
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The three elderly people
262
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are doing this to the
living people here.
263
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I do feel like a female is
definitely perceiving this.
264
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[Whimpers]
265
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Not sleeping, I think,
is making them worse.
266
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Like, they're really falling
into a horrible depression.
267
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And it's, like, really nearing,
like, a mental breakdown
268
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because of all of this.
269
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These dead people are totally
taking advantage of that.
270
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Oh, my God.
271
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STEVE: Okay, so what else is going on?
272
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One night, the whole family was
playing a game in the kitchen,
273
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and we had a water bottle
274
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that went from the kitchen
into the living room.
275
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So where was the bottle?
276
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The bottle was on the floor.
277
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Well, you got a water
bottle here. Can I use this?
278
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Certainly.
279
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As if somebody kicked it,
280
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and it just rolled right
into the living room?
281
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Right. Right into the living room.
282
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Whether that's
paranormal or not, I...
283
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I don't know.
284
00:12:05,330 --> 00:12:06,930
All right. What else
is going on down here?
285
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That same night, when
we were playing the game,
286
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the light was swaying back and forth.
287
00:12:12,805 --> 00:12:13,787
This chandelier here?
288
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Yes.
289
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All right. So this is not stiff. So...
290
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- Right.
- Anybody hit it?
291
00:12:22,030 --> 00:12:23,613
- Nobody hit it.
- Was the door open?
292
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- Was there any wind?
- No.
293
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Was anything else going on in here?
294
00:12:26,718 --> 00:12:28,952
One morning, when everybody
was getting around for work,
295
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they came down, and every
cabinet in here was wide open.
296
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These aren't easy to open.
297
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Right. They were all open.
298
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Nobody playing jokes?
299
00:12:38,630 --> 00:12:41,615
Everybody denies that they
had anything to do with it.
300
00:12:46,605 --> 00:12:49,923
I'm seeing lots of stuff
happening in the kitchen,
301
00:12:50,008 --> 00:12:51,508
physical phenomena.
302
00:12:51,577 --> 00:12:54,311
I'm seeing, like,
these chairs...
303
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They're all nice like this.
304
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Person turns, turns around.
305
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They're all pulled out, all pulled out.
306
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And then, these are open.
307
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Lots of stuff happening in the kitchen,
308
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like, movement of objects.
309
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I already know why.
310
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Person here has P.K. abilities.
311
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MATTHEW: Do you see the person?
312
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Female, shorter than me.
313
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She's, like...
314
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maybe, like, 45.
315
00:13:24,259 --> 00:13:26,009
She's got brown hair.
316
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The P.K. manifestation,
it's, like, grumbling
317
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and, like, hissing.
318
00:13:33,218 --> 00:13:38,772
That is a pretty intense personality.
319
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Gets yelling.
320
00:13:40,158 --> 00:13:41,258
How large is it?
321
00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,626
Well, right now, it's not so big
322
00:13:42,728 --> 00:13:45,295
because it made itself smaller.
323
00:13:45,397 --> 00:13:49,499
It looks like an inkblot with arms.
324
00:13:49,601 --> 00:13:52,193
And half human?
325
00:13:52,263 --> 00:13:55,147
It can make, like, a
head with eyes and mouth,
326
00:13:55,249 --> 00:13:56,432
but that's it.
327
00:13:56,551 --> 00:14:01,554
It's, like, saying really
negative, bad words to me.
328
00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:03,222
That thing's nasty.
329
00:14:10,164 --> 00:14:12,331
I understand you're
Richard's girlfriend.
330
00:14:12,417 --> 00:14:13,549
- Yeah.
- Okay.
331
00:14:13,668 --> 00:14:15,217
And you've spent a lot of time here?
332
00:14:15,336 --> 00:14:16,569
No.
333
00:14:16,654 --> 00:14:17,737
Okay, why not?
334
00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:20,473
I was sleeping one night,
and I felt like someone
335
00:14:20,575 --> 00:14:22,691
was holding the blankets over my head.
336
00:14:22,810 --> 00:14:25,845
I just panicked. I was trying
to move. I couldn't move.
337
00:14:25,930 --> 00:14:27,847
I fought it, and I got
out of the blankets.
338
00:14:27,982 --> 00:14:29,999
I was sweating. I was crying.
339
00:14:30,118 --> 00:14:32,618
Okay. I can see now
you're upset about it.
340
00:14:32,754 --> 00:14:34,336
You sure this wasn't a nightmare?
341
00:14:34,455 --> 00:14:36,355
No, definitely not a nightmare.
342
00:14:36,441 --> 00:14:37,873
I could see the light from the TV.
343
00:14:37,992 --> 00:14:40,926
I could hear Anthony and Carlos
in the other room, talking.
344
00:14:41,012 --> 00:14:42,094
Is anything else going on in here?
345
00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:43,763
I was sleeping one night.
346
00:14:43,898 --> 00:14:45,431
It was about 3:00 in the morning.
347
00:14:45,516 --> 00:14:48,467
And I could see a shadow figure.
348
00:14:48,553 --> 00:14:49,835
I was just terrified.
349
00:14:49,921 --> 00:14:51,871
Can you describe that
shadow figure for me at all?
350
00:14:51,956 --> 00:14:54,790
It was almost like a shadow creature.
351
00:14:54,909 --> 00:14:57,660
Like, its arms were bent
back. Its legs were bent back.
352
00:14:57,745 --> 00:14:58,744
Okay.
353
00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,614
Had no eyes, just holes.
354
00:15:01,699 --> 00:15:03,682
How big was this thing?
355
00:15:03,751 --> 00:15:05,084
Size of a pillow.
356
00:15:05,186 --> 00:15:06,786
- Oh, small?
- Yeah.
357
00:15:06,888 --> 00:15:07,987
I was so shaken up.
358
00:15:08,089 --> 00:15:11,040
When we finally got
up, my back was burning.
359
00:15:11,125 --> 00:15:13,759
And I went home,
and there was a...
360
00:15:13,845 --> 00:15:16,061
a bite mark on the small of my back.
361
00:15:16,147 --> 00:15:17,763
Now, do you think that whatever's here
362
00:15:17,899 --> 00:15:20,199
is trying to drive you out
so you're not here anymore?
363
00:15:20,284 --> 00:15:21,400
Yeah.
364
00:15:21,536 --> 00:15:22,952
Every time I'm here,
I just get a feeling
365
00:15:23,070 --> 00:15:24,804
that I shouldn't be here.
366
00:15:28,276 --> 00:15:29,909
Okay, whoever created this thing
367
00:15:29,994 --> 00:15:33,479
has a [bleep] problem with
the person in this room.
368
00:15:33,581 --> 00:15:34,880
Why do you say that?
369
00:15:34,982 --> 00:15:37,233
I feel like it's trying
to bite or scratch.
370
00:15:40,021 --> 00:15:41,153
Burning, scratching,
371
00:15:41,289 --> 00:15:42,888
hitting, pulling hair,
that kind of thing.
372
00:15:42,990 --> 00:15:45,024
Making this person sick.
373
00:15:45,109 --> 00:15:48,427
It's threatening,
threatening this person,
374
00:15:48,529 --> 00:15:50,396
"I'm going to get you."
375
00:16:04,033 --> 00:16:05,857
STEVE: Look, I always
play devil's advocate
376
00:16:05,957 --> 00:16:08,107
to see if there could be
a nonparanormal explanation
377
00:16:08,226 --> 00:16:10,293
for what my clients are going through.
378
00:16:10,378 --> 00:16:11,944
But I got to thinking
about the stuff Terry's
379
00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:14,213
been seeing moving
around in the kitchen,
380
00:16:14,332 --> 00:16:15,431
and I'm wondering if it had something
381
00:16:15,517 --> 00:16:17,800
to do with the house settling.
382
00:16:17,886 --> 00:16:18,935
I'm heading back there now
383
00:16:19,070 --> 00:16:20,903
to meet up with a couple
of building inspectors
384
00:16:20,989 --> 00:16:23,406
to see if there's any
chance that's the case.
385
00:16:27,479 --> 00:16:29,011
Okay, so this is the
reason I called you guys.
386
00:16:29,097 --> 00:16:30,680
I'm investigating the house,
387
00:16:30,765 --> 00:16:32,415
and there's claims
in the house of things
388
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:33,850
that make no sense to me.
389
00:16:33,985 --> 00:16:36,452
They're talking about
cabinet doors in the kitchen
390
00:16:36,538 --> 00:16:37,620
all opening up.
391
00:16:37,705 --> 00:16:39,155
Nobody's doing it.
392
00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,991
Stuff rolling on the floor on its own.
393
00:16:42,093 --> 00:16:43,576
Have you guys ever seen anything
394
00:16:43,661 --> 00:16:47,029
that would cause that
kind of activity to happen?
395
00:16:47,131 --> 00:16:48,431
- Sure, sure.
- Okay.
396
00:16:48,533 --> 00:16:49,732
- So it's possible?
- Yeah.
397
00:16:49,834 --> 00:16:50,967
We'll take a good look at it.
398
00:16:51,069 --> 00:16:52,602
We'll see what's going
on in the interior.
399
00:16:52,670 --> 00:16:53,736
Then we'll report back to you.
400
00:16:53,838 --> 00:16:55,505
Excellent.
401
00:16:55,607 --> 00:16:59,175
STEVE: With so much bizarre activity
going on inside Terry's house,
402
00:16:59,277 --> 00:17:02,378
I need to rule out the obvious first.
403
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,082
Then I can focus on what
physical evidence can explain.
404
00:17:06,184 --> 00:17:07,683
All right. So what'd you guys find out?
405
00:17:07,769 --> 00:17:08,851
All right. Basically, we found a couple
406
00:17:08,953 --> 00:17:10,720
of cosmetic stuff on the exterior here.
407
00:17:10,805 --> 00:17:12,889
But the house itself
is... It's sound.
408
00:17:12,991 --> 00:17:14,457
So there's nothing wrong in the house
409
00:17:14,592 --> 00:17:16,759
that would make a bottle
just go across the floor
410
00:17:16,844 --> 00:17:18,094
to the other side?
411
00:17:18,229 --> 00:17:20,062
The floor, it's only off about
a half-inch from end to end.
412
00:17:20,131 --> 00:17:21,264
That's typical for a house.
413
00:17:21,349 --> 00:17:23,299
Cabinet doors opening all
on their own, all of them?
414
00:17:23,401 --> 00:17:25,751
No. There's nothing
that would explain that.
415
00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:28,404
Okay. So now I know
at least what it's not.
416
00:17:28,506 --> 00:17:31,340
Right. There's no problem
with the house itself.
417
00:17:34,712 --> 00:17:36,012
So when I pull the deed to the house,
418
00:17:36,097 --> 00:17:39,131
the first family I came
up with was the Blakesleys.
419
00:17:39,250 --> 00:17:41,250
So I called a local author
to look into it for me.
420
00:17:41,336 --> 00:17:43,853
And he said this family
has a very wild story
421
00:17:43,955 --> 00:17:45,871
that will definitely help my case.
422
00:17:51,131 --> 00:17:52,931
You had mentioned on the
phone there was a wild story
423
00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:54,199
connected with this family.
424
00:17:54,301 --> 00:17:56,351
Yeah, it goes back to
one of the Blakesleys,
425
00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:59,597
a woman named Sylvia,
who was born in 1816.
426
00:17:59,678 --> 00:18:02,279
We were able to find a photo of her.
427
00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:04,581
As you can tell, she's
a very stern woman,
428
00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:07,234
and she was married
to a guy named Alfred,
429
00:18:07,353 --> 00:18:08,836
who was a brickmaker.
430
00:18:08,954 --> 00:18:10,354
- He died.
- Okay.
431
00:18:10,456 --> 00:18:12,239
And she took over the business,
432
00:18:12,358 --> 00:18:15,626
which is actually quite
unusual at that time,
433
00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,861
for a woman to take over
a business like that.
434
00:18:17,997 --> 00:18:19,416
She must've been a very
independent, powerful,
435
00:18:19,516 --> 00:18:20,932
and ruthless woman.
436
00:18:21,034 --> 00:18:22,167
Well, what do you mean by ruthless?
437
00:18:22,269 --> 00:18:24,853
In two different cases,
Sylvia actually sued
438
00:18:24,972 --> 00:18:29,140
two close family members over money.
439
00:18:29,226 --> 00:18:31,109
Over money. Okay. Who was the first one?
440
00:18:31,211 --> 00:18:36,151
Her sister and her nephew
both owed her money,
441
00:18:36,251 --> 00:18:38,518
so she sued them to get the money back.
442
00:18:38,604 --> 00:18:42,255
She ended up getting a
judge to go and put a lien
443
00:18:42,341 --> 00:18:43,306
on all of their stuff.
444
00:18:43,425 --> 00:18:44,574
On her sister and her own nephew?
445
00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:45,826
Correct.
446
00:18:45,961 --> 00:18:47,928
She's a real piece of work, this woman.
447
00:18:48,013 --> 00:18:49,096
Okay. So that's the first one.
448
00:18:49,181 --> 00:18:50,263
What was the second one?
449
00:18:50,349 --> 00:18:53,667
Eight years later, her
son and her grandson
450
00:18:53,752 --> 00:18:55,869
both have their own
brickmaking business,
451
00:18:55,938 --> 00:18:59,740
and she sues them when
their business fell under.
452
00:18:59,825 --> 00:19:01,324
And why'd she do that?
453
00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:04,311
Well, because it would
protect her from the debtors.
454
00:19:04,446 --> 00:19:06,747
And I have an article about it.
455
00:19:06,832 --> 00:19:08,849
This is one cold-hearted [bleep]
456
00:19:08,934 --> 00:19:10,817
Yeah, and that's not all.
457
00:19:10,903 --> 00:19:14,070
She also institutionalized
her own grand-nephew.
458
00:19:14,189 --> 00:19:15,355
Okay. So what's the story with that?
459
00:19:15,491 --> 00:19:17,124
This man's name is Fred Blakesley.
460
00:19:17,259 --> 00:19:18,425
Okay.
461
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,545
And he fell in love with
Sylvia's daughter, Lucy.
462
00:19:21,663 --> 00:19:23,613
Sylvia and her husband did not approve
463
00:19:23,732 --> 00:19:27,434
of Fred Blakesley's obsession with Lucy.
464
00:19:27,519 --> 00:19:30,170
Sylvia filed court papers
to get him committed
465
00:19:30,255 --> 00:19:32,806
into the state insane asylum.
466
00:19:32,908 --> 00:19:35,459
And here's the papers.
467
00:19:35,577 --> 00:19:37,077
Okay. So if she's not suing the family,
468
00:19:37,162 --> 00:19:38,745
she's having them committed.
469
00:19:38,831 --> 00:19:41,047
Just another way to show who's boss.
470
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:49,055
The old woman, I know she goes way back.
471
00:19:49,191 --> 00:19:50,474
She and her two henchmen
472
00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:55,011
definitely lived here at some point,
473
00:19:55,130 --> 00:19:57,214
and they had a business here.
474
00:19:57,299 --> 00:19:59,800
I feel like one of them was her husband,
475
00:19:59,902 --> 00:20:01,201
and he was, like, the figurehead.
476
00:20:01,336 --> 00:20:03,737
But she was really the one in charge.
477
00:20:03,806 --> 00:20:07,607
She was business.
478
00:20:07,709 --> 00:20:09,476
I think they had a lot of money.
479
00:20:09,578 --> 00:20:12,612
One of these men, I think, was in a camp
480
00:20:12,748 --> 00:20:15,632
at some point, like, a
prison camp or something.
481
00:20:15,751 --> 00:20:16,666
Okay.
482
00:20:16,752 --> 00:20:20,120
He thinks she [bleep] killed him.
483
00:20:20,189 --> 00:20:22,589
He just... just despises her.
484
00:20:28,697 --> 00:20:29,996
If you need us to investigate
485
00:20:30,098 --> 00:20:31,898
unexplained activity in your home,
486
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,968
go to the "Dead Files"
page at travelchannel.com.
487
00:20:35,070 --> 00:20:36,570
Click on "Help Me, Dead
Files!" to submit your story,
488
00:20:36,655 --> 00:20:37,704
and we'll help if we can.
489
00:20:47,179 --> 00:20:48,990
STEVE: So far, I've got
a family living in fear
490
00:20:49,090 --> 00:20:51,991
on a property connected
to a lot of suffering.
491
00:20:52,093 --> 00:20:53,776
But I need to see if there's
anything else that could help
492
00:20:53,895 --> 00:20:55,361
my investigation.
493
00:20:55,464 --> 00:20:58,097
Searching through old records,
I find a gruesome murder
494
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,818
involving an
18-year-old farmhand.
495
00:21:01,903 --> 00:21:03,803
Turns out he fatally stabbed a woman
496
00:21:03,905 --> 00:21:07,340
right next to my client's property.
497
00:21:07,442 --> 00:21:09,809
So I've asked a retired
cop to look into it for me.
498
00:21:09,895 --> 00:21:12,479
He described it as one of
the most savage homicides
499
00:21:12,581 --> 00:21:14,347
in the town's history.
500
00:21:18,186 --> 00:21:20,220
So, Jerry, thanks for meeting
me and helping me out with this.
501
00:21:20,305 --> 00:21:22,272
What'd you find out about the homicide?
502
00:21:22,357 --> 00:21:25,975
July 24, 1853, there was a
guy named Brazila Bradley.
503
00:21:26,061 --> 00:21:27,694
He lived right next to
your clients' property.
504
00:21:27,762 --> 00:21:29,429
Brazila takes his kids to church.
505
00:21:29,514 --> 00:21:32,582
His wife, Esther Bradley, stayed
behind because she was sick.
506
00:21:32,701 --> 00:21:35,168
They had an 18-year-old Irish
farmhand named Michael Jennings
507
00:21:35,303 --> 00:21:36,836
who came there to rob 'em.
508
00:21:36,922 --> 00:21:38,087
He discovered the wife in her house.
509
00:21:38,206 --> 00:21:41,674
And he stabs her approximately 50 times,
510
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,410
cutting off her nose,
stabbing the head, the chest,
511
00:21:44,546 --> 00:21:47,380
and stabbed her once so violently
512
00:21:47,516 --> 00:21:49,532
that the tip of the knife
broke off in her breastbone.
513
00:21:49,651 --> 00:21:50,650
50 times?
514
00:21:50,735 --> 00:21:51,985
50 times. Crime of passion.
515
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:53,419
- Yeah.
- You and I both know it.
516
00:21:53,505 --> 00:21:55,555
So I got to assume this had
to be a huge to-do back then.
517
00:21:55,657 --> 00:21:56,739
All the papers.
518
00:21:56,825 --> 00:21:59,542
Here's one of the articles.
519
00:21:59,661 --> 00:22:01,661
Okay.
520
00:22:01,763 --> 00:22:02,929
So what happened with him?
521
00:22:03,064 --> 00:22:05,481
He goes on trial. He's
convicted of murder.
522
00:22:05,567 --> 00:22:07,217
They send him up to Newgate Prison,
523
00:22:07,302 --> 00:22:08,868
which is a hell on Earth.
524
00:22:08,954 --> 00:22:11,538
And almost a year later, he's hung
525
00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:15,225
in front of a very large crowd,
estimated at about 400 people.
526
00:22:15,343 --> 00:22:19,662
Here's an article on the
execution of Michael Jennings.
527
00:22:19,748 --> 00:22:21,531
He deserved it.
528
00:22:25,687 --> 00:22:29,355
AMY: I'm seeing that guy
bleeding from his hands again,
529
00:22:29,457 --> 00:22:31,207
and it's, like, shock.
530
00:22:31,326 --> 00:22:32,892
He's feeling, "What
the [bleep] happened?
531
00:22:33,028 --> 00:22:35,511
What the [bleep]
happened? What's going on?"
532
00:22:35,597 --> 00:22:38,531
Does not have any clue what
the [bleep] just went down.
533
00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:43,503
I'm dizzy.
534
00:22:43,605 --> 00:22:45,204
I'm having back pain,
535
00:22:45,307 --> 00:22:49,959
specifically here, very, very bad.
536
00:22:50,045 --> 00:22:52,845
Really [bleep] bad, though, really bad.
537
00:22:52,948 --> 00:22:56,382
It's like [Hisses] like, in your ears,
538
00:22:56,518 --> 00:22:57,850
and you're like, "Ah."
539
00:22:57,953 --> 00:23:00,386
I don't like it.
540
00:23:07,329 --> 00:23:09,696
Pain is following me.
541
00:23:09,781 --> 00:23:12,565
Somebody's crawling on
the ground behind me.
542
00:23:12,667 --> 00:23:15,335
They're hanging onto my spine.
543
00:23:15,437 --> 00:23:16,769
It's the female.
544
00:23:16,871 --> 00:23:18,905
She can hurt you.
545
00:23:19,007 --> 00:23:20,807
She can hurt living people.
546
00:23:20,909 --> 00:23:22,191
I need her the [bleep] off.
547
00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:23,643
Oh, I don't like this.
548
00:23:23,778 --> 00:23:25,011
I need her off.
549
00:23:25,113 --> 00:23:28,314
Like, now, I'm, like, all creeped out.
550
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,617
Like, maybe she's,
like, from a cemetery,
551
00:23:30,719 --> 00:23:32,885
like, nearby or something?
552
00:23:33,021 --> 00:23:34,220
Are we dealing with, like,
553
00:23:34,356 --> 00:23:36,572
[bleep] bodies buried here,
and they're pissed off,
554
00:23:36,691 --> 00:23:38,358
and they're, like, wreaking havoc?
555
00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:47,583
I saw several dead
people during my walk,
556
00:23:47,702 --> 00:23:50,903
but the P.K. manifestation
hovering over a living person
557
00:23:51,006 --> 00:23:53,339
has me the most concerned.
558
00:23:53,441 --> 00:23:55,775
It was all black.
559
00:23:55,860 --> 00:24:03,583
It had a human arm and
leg coming out of it.
560
00:24:03,668 --> 00:24:10,056
And then kind of in the
center, was this female.
561
00:24:12,427 --> 00:24:14,394
- It makes you frightened?
- Mm.
562
00:24:22,003 --> 00:24:23,803
Amy, is this what you saw?
563
00:24:25,940 --> 00:24:27,907
Yes, that's what I saw.
564
00:24:47,457 --> 00:24:50,191
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
565
00:24:50,293 --> 00:24:51,476
we're ready to reveal our findings
566
00:24:51,594 --> 00:24:55,029
to each other and our
clients for the first time.
567
00:24:55,131 --> 00:24:56,931
Amy, I'd like you to meet Anthony,
568
00:24:57,033 --> 00:24:59,067
and this is his mom, Terry.
569
00:24:59,152 --> 00:25:00,368
About a year ago,
570
00:25:00,470 --> 00:25:03,187
Anthony moved in here
with his husband, Carlos,
571
00:25:03,273 --> 00:25:05,473
and that's when all hell broke loose.
572
00:25:05,608 --> 00:25:08,543
Now, I want to show you who
else lives in their house.
573
00:25:08,645 --> 00:25:13,264
So this is Rich, Terry's husband.
574
00:25:13,383 --> 00:25:15,550
This is Carlos, who's Anthony's husband.
575
00:25:15,685 --> 00:25:18,019
These are his two
brothers, Louie and Richard.
576
00:25:18,121 --> 00:25:20,722
Now, Anthony thinks
that when he came home,
577
00:25:20,824 --> 00:25:23,958
he triggered something that
puts the whole family in danger.
578
00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:25,993
And that's why he called us in.
579
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:28,363
Now that Amy knows a
little bit about you guys,
580
00:25:28,465 --> 00:25:30,865
I'm gonna have her
describe her walk for us.
581
00:25:34,404 --> 00:25:38,673
One of the first things
that I saw was upstairs,
582
00:25:38,775 --> 00:25:43,594
and I saw blood all over the floor.
583
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,497
And the blood led out of the bathroom
584
00:25:46,616 --> 00:25:48,983
and into the hallway.
585
00:25:49,069 --> 00:25:53,071
I was experiencing it
through the individual
586
00:25:53,189 --> 00:25:55,189
that had the initial experience.
587
00:25:55,291 --> 00:25:57,558
And I saw my hands,
588
00:25:57,644 --> 00:26:00,294
and they were a male's hands,
589
00:26:00,397 --> 00:26:03,264
and they had blood on them.
590
00:26:03,349 --> 00:26:09,937
And the male was feeling very confused.
591
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:13,408
Just... it's just wow.
592
00:26:13,543 --> 00:26:15,510
We... we found blood.
593
00:26:15,612 --> 00:26:18,079
We were in the basement,
and we had opened the door,
594
00:26:18,181 --> 00:26:19,547
and there was droplets of blood
595
00:26:19,649 --> 00:26:21,365
right in front of the
door of the basement
596
00:26:21,484 --> 00:26:23,651
and up the stairs, into the hallway
597
00:26:23,736 --> 00:26:25,803
and through the closed
door into the bathroom.
598
00:26:25,889 --> 00:26:27,438
Her husband, Rich, is a cop.
599
00:26:27,524 --> 00:26:29,323
He investigated this thoroughly
600
00:26:29,409 --> 00:26:34,145
and couldn't figure out
what the hell this came from.
601
00:26:34,264 --> 00:26:36,531
Now, this is a long shot,
602
00:26:36,616 --> 00:26:38,800
but when you said you saw a
guy acting confused with blood
603
00:26:38,902 --> 00:26:40,218
on his hands,
604
00:26:40,336 --> 00:26:43,004
it made me think about something
I came across in my research.
605
00:26:43,527 --> 00:26:46,195
Now, in 1853, there
was a 43-year-old woman
606
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,697
named Esther Bradley that
lived next to your property.
607
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:53,202
And her husband and
two kids went to church,
608
00:26:53,337 --> 00:26:55,654
and she wasn't feeling
well and stayed back.
609
00:26:55,773 --> 00:26:59,007
An Irish farmhand that
worked for the family,
610
00:26:59,109 --> 00:27:00,943
18 years old,
611
00:27:01,078 --> 00:27:03,579
went into the house to
rob it and found her there.
612
00:27:03,681 --> 00:27:05,714
He wound up stabbing her to death.
613
00:27:05,816 --> 00:27:08,317
And he stabbed her 50 times.
614
00:27:08,419 --> 00:27:10,986
50 times?
615
00:27:11,071 --> 00:27:13,222
The head, the neck, the chest.
616
00:27:13,307 --> 00:27:15,340
One of the stab wounds was
so bad he actually broke off
617
00:27:15,426 --> 00:27:18,360
the tip of the knife in her chest.
618
00:27:18,462 --> 00:27:22,297
They did catch him at the train
station with blood, the knife.
619
00:27:22,399 --> 00:27:23,515
Stayed in jail for about a year.
620
00:27:23,601 --> 00:27:24,566
And then, they hung him.
621
00:27:24,652 --> 00:27:27,102
Good.
622
00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:28,687
So what else did you see?
623
00:27:28,772 --> 00:27:32,524
There are three
conscious dead people here
624
00:27:32,643 --> 00:27:34,476
that I'm very concerned about.
625
00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:37,746
There are two males and one female,
626
00:27:37,831 --> 00:27:39,448
and they are all elderly.
627
00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:44,102
The female has the two
men attached to her.
628
00:27:44,221 --> 00:27:46,421
She's, like, the boss of these two guys.
629
00:27:46,557 --> 00:27:50,576
The intentions there are
not particularly friendly.
630
00:27:52,396 --> 00:27:57,165
The two men, they're very
physical, very strong.
631
00:27:57,251 --> 00:28:00,235
She's extremely intelligent
632
00:28:00,337 --> 00:28:04,940
and is consistently manipulating them.
633
00:28:05,042 --> 00:28:07,809
One of the men told me,
634
00:28:07,912 --> 00:28:09,695
"She has malicious intentions.
635
00:28:09,780 --> 00:28:12,164
She's forcing us to do this."
636
00:28:12,283 --> 00:28:15,150
So if they have bad intentions,
what... what are they doing?
637
00:28:15,286 --> 00:28:18,070
There was definitely
physical touching and attacks,
638
00:28:18,155 --> 00:28:23,091
pushing, shoving,
pinching, things like that.
639
00:28:23,193 --> 00:28:26,595
I got, like, somebody being
kind of shoved into the walls.
640
00:28:29,266 --> 00:28:31,600
I get dizzy in the stairwell.
641
00:28:31,685 --> 00:28:33,302
Do you ever feel
yourself getting...
642
00:28:33,387 --> 00:28:35,604
like you were getting pushed
into a wall and not realize it?
643
00:28:35,706 --> 00:28:38,373
- Yes.
- Interesting. Okay.
644
00:28:38,475 --> 00:28:40,475
AMY: The other thing
that I got...
645
00:28:40,611 --> 00:28:46,982
She was making two
people in the house ill,
646
00:28:47,117 --> 00:28:51,153
and the first one that I got
specifically was a living woman.
647
00:28:51,255 --> 00:28:53,088
I saw her in the master bedroom,
648
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:57,259
and she was crying and
in a deep depression
649
00:28:57,344 --> 00:29:01,129
and that she was on the
verge of a nervous breakdown.
650
00:29:01,231 --> 00:29:05,033
Oh, my God.
651
00:29:05,119 --> 00:29:07,269
That's me. That's me.
652
00:29:07,354 --> 00:29:10,806
I have been horrible all
over the place, crying.
653
00:29:10,891 --> 00:29:14,276
I don't know if I should be,
like, upset or more than pissed.
654
00:29:14,361 --> 00:29:16,111
- She's affecting two people?
- Yeah.
655
00:29:16,213 --> 00:29:19,514
The second was a living
male having heart pain
656
00:29:19,616 --> 00:29:21,616
- or chest pain.
- Oh, my God.
657
00:29:21,719 --> 00:29:23,852
So significant heart problems.
658
00:29:23,937 --> 00:29:26,288
I didn't know if it
was high blood pressure,
659
00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:28,256
high cholesterol or both.
660
00:29:28,342 --> 00:29:30,592
This person already had this condition,
661
00:29:30,694 --> 00:29:34,079
but the woman and the two guys
with her are making it worse.
662
00:29:34,164 --> 00:29:36,631
And they're really
focused on trying to...
663
00:29:36,767 --> 00:29:38,867
to fatally harm him.
664
00:29:39,003 --> 00:29:40,285
- Oh, my God.
- And I don't know why.
665
00:29:40,371 --> 00:29:42,771
I've had heart issues.
666
00:29:42,856 --> 00:29:45,824
Just when I moved back in last year.
667
00:29:45,943 --> 00:29:47,959
I never had problems before.
Never had a heart issue before.
668
00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:49,544
- I mean...
- Well, how old are you?
669
00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:51,980
22.
670
00:29:52,066 --> 00:29:53,899
How can she do this?
671
00:29:53,984 --> 00:29:56,485
I wish I could just grab her.
672
00:29:56,587 --> 00:29:59,254
I want to [bleep] strangle the [bleep]
673
00:29:59,339 --> 00:30:00,475
You ever get an idea of who she was
674
00:30:00,575 --> 00:30:02,041
and who these two guys were,
maybe when they were alive?
675
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,326
This is what I got.
676
00:30:03,394 --> 00:30:06,162
At least one of them,
I believe, lived here.
677
00:30:06,264 --> 00:30:09,198
And the other two might
have lived around or nearby.
678
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,768
I think they owned a business here,
679
00:30:12,871 --> 00:30:15,605
and at least one of them
died here on the land.
680
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:18,724
The female was able to control these men
681
00:30:18,810 --> 00:30:21,978
when they were alive as well,
so it's not just in death.
682
00:30:22,113 --> 00:30:24,947
I got that, you know,
she was pretty far back.
683
00:30:25,049 --> 00:30:27,783
She was all about business. I
think she had a lot of money.
684
00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:30,152
She made it very clear
that she was the one
685
00:30:30,238 --> 00:30:34,156
who really called all the
shots, especially with finances.
686
00:30:34,259 --> 00:30:37,493
As far as the men, I think at one point,
687
00:30:37,595 --> 00:30:38,761
one of them might have been her husband,
688
00:30:38,897 --> 00:30:40,129
and then, the other guy, I...
689
00:30:40,231 --> 00:30:42,665
The one thing with him was
that he had been in a camp
690
00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:47,119
at some point, like a prison camp.
691
00:30:47,205 --> 00:30:48,504
You talking about a
woman who lived here,
692
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,490
had a lot of money,
693
00:30:51,576 --> 00:30:52,992
and based on some of
the things you said,
694
00:30:53,111 --> 00:30:54,944
was a real piece of work, obviously.
695
00:30:55,013 --> 00:30:56,262
Now, that makes me think of a woman
696
00:30:56,381 --> 00:30:59,282
who did live on that
property, Sylvia Blakesley.
697
00:30:59,384 --> 00:31:03,603
Now, Sylvia married a
guy who died in 1886,
698
00:31:03,721 --> 00:31:06,405
and she took over his
brickmaking business.
699
00:31:06,524 --> 00:31:08,357
Back then, in the 1800s,
700
00:31:08,443 --> 00:31:10,927
a woman didn't take over a
man's business and run it.
701
00:31:11,012 --> 00:31:13,396
She ruled with an iron
fist from what I was told.
702
00:31:13,481 --> 00:31:16,015
She was business-savvy, ruthless.
703
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:17,650
She sued her own sister
704
00:31:17,769 --> 00:31:20,102
and nephew over a small amount of money.
705
00:31:20,238 --> 00:31:22,872
Next thing she wound up
doing is suing her son
706
00:31:22,957 --> 00:31:25,675
and her grandson because
they went bankrupt,
707
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,811
and she didn't want the
creditors coming after her.
708
00:31:28,896 --> 00:31:30,513
Now, you said something
about one of them guys
709
00:31:30,598 --> 00:31:32,515
being in a prison camp.
710
00:31:32,650 --> 00:31:34,216
In 1895,
711
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,453
her nephew Fred fell in
love with her daughter, Lucy.
712
00:31:37,538 --> 00:31:40,656
So now, Sylvia wasn't too fond
of the fact that her nephew
713
00:31:40,758 --> 00:31:43,592
was trying to get romantically
involved with her daughter.
714
00:31:43,728 --> 00:31:46,946
So she filed papers with the courts
715
00:31:47,031 --> 00:31:49,665
to have him committed
to an insane asylum.
716
00:31:49,767 --> 00:31:51,133
- What?
- God.
717
00:31:51,235 --> 00:31:53,469
Now, I was able to track
down a photo of her.
718
00:31:55,540 --> 00:31:57,456
Now, do you think that
might've been the woman you saw?
719
00:31:57,542 --> 00:31:59,425
Oh, yeah.
720
00:31:59,510 --> 00:32:00,710
I could see it.
721
00:32:00,845 --> 00:32:02,745
Now, you got a face
722
00:32:02,830 --> 00:32:04,997
to what's causing some
of the problems here.
723
00:32:05,116 --> 00:32:06,999
I told you they weren't good. Told you.
724
00:32:07,085 --> 00:32:09,685
You did tell me that.
You did tell me that.
725
00:32:11,522 --> 00:32:13,823
When I...
726
00:32:13,958 --> 00:32:17,176
[Sighs] Okay.
727
00:32:17,295 --> 00:32:23,632
When I went into the kitchen, um...
728
00:32:23,768 --> 00:32:25,134
- You all right?
- Yeah, I'm fine.
729
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:27,803
I'm all right.
730
00:32:27,939 --> 00:32:32,675
What I saw was that you
have a fully developed
731
00:32:32,777 --> 00:32:35,861
P.K. manifestation here.
732
00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:36,946
What does that mean?
733
00:32:37,048 --> 00:32:38,264
More than likely,
734
00:32:38,383 --> 00:32:43,219
somebody within the household
has latent abilities.
735
00:32:43,354 --> 00:32:46,222
And that ability would be
telekinesis, or psychokinesis,
736
00:32:46,307 --> 00:32:48,841
okay, which is the ability
to affect your surroundings
737
00:32:48,926 --> 00:32:50,993
without physical contact.
738
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:55,464
The initial thing that happens
is a poltergeist will develop.
739
00:32:55,566 --> 00:32:58,234
Oh, my gosh.
740
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:00,336
What can happen is that
poltergeist lingers,
741
00:33:00,421 --> 00:33:02,705
and it pulls more energy and
more energy and more energy.
742
00:33:02,790 --> 00:33:04,206
And over a lot of time,
743
00:33:04,308 --> 00:33:07,543
it starts to become a
conscious, functioning,
744
00:33:07,645 --> 00:33:09,395
independent entity.
745
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,181
Unfortunately, that's
what's happened here.
746
00:33:12,316 --> 00:33:16,102
It is very aware. It's very nasty.
747
00:33:16,187 --> 00:33:17,853
It has an intense personality.
748
00:33:17,955 --> 00:33:19,972
It was yelling, hissing,
and growling at me.
749
00:33:20,091 --> 00:33:21,557
- Oh, my God.
- It was swearing at me.
750
00:33:21,659 --> 00:33:23,526
It's... it can
be very physical.
751
00:33:23,628 --> 00:33:25,628
And then, I started seeing
the physical phenomena
752
00:33:25,713 --> 00:33:26,829
that was happening in the kitchen,
753
00:33:26,964 --> 00:33:29,665
like, one thing, like,
I was turned around.
754
00:33:29,767 --> 00:33:31,967
And then, I turned back at the table,
755
00:33:32,053 --> 00:33:32,968
and all the chairs had moved.
756
00:33:33,104 --> 00:33:36,589
- Oh, my God.
- And I was like, "Whoa."
757
00:33:36,674 --> 00:33:37,807
And then, I turn around,
758
00:33:37,892 --> 00:33:39,875
and I saw that the cabinets were opened.
759
00:33:39,977 --> 00:33:42,478
Oh, my God.
760
00:33:42,613 --> 00:33:44,914
Okay, all the cabinets
were opened one morning.
761
00:33:45,016 --> 00:33:47,616
- Every single cabinet.
- Every single one.
762
00:33:47,702 --> 00:33:48,918
And the chandelier moved on its own.
763
00:33:49,003 --> 00:33:50,352
The chandelier moved on its own.
764
00:33:50,488 --> 00:33:51,654
Now, when you were telling me
765
00:33:51,739 --> 00:33:52,855
about what was going on in the kitchen,
766
00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:54,423
I had to do my due diligence
767
00:33:54,525 --> 00:33:57,109
and had the house
checked by two inspectors
768
00:33:57,228 --> 00:33:58,961
to see if the house was off.
769
00:33:59,097 --> 00:34:01,297
It's off by a half-inch,
which is pretty common.
770
00:34:01,432 --> 00:34:03,466
You have a tilt coming this way.
771
00:34:03,551 --> 00:34:05,684
But it's not enough to have
cabinets and chandeliers
772
00:34:05,803 --> 00:34:07,937
moving on their own.
773
00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:09,789
The house is structurally sound.
774
00:34:09,907 --> 00:34:11,874
So now, this thing that you're
talking about, this P.K.,
775
00:34:11,959 --> 00:34:13,642
now, is it only in the
kitchen, this thing?
776
00:34:13,744 --> 00:34:18,047
Uh, no. It's extremely active
in several of the bedrooms.
777
00:34:18,132 --> 00:34:21,517
Specifically, I saw it messing
with someone in the bedroom
778
00:34:21,602 --> 00:34:23,052
with the red comforter.
779
00:34:23,137 --> 00:34:26,088
The individual who had
something to do with the creation
780
00:34:26,190 --> 00:34:30,109
of this had a lot of
issues with this person
781
00:34:30,194 --> 00:34:33,095
in this room, and these
are unresolved issues.
782
00:34:33,181 --> 00:34:35,898
The living person in that
room is constantly hearing,
783
00:34:35,983 --> 00:34:38,267
like, whispering.
784
00:34:38,369 --> 00:34:40,870
The thing's, like,
trying to threaten them.
785
00:34:40,972 --> 00:34:43,706
Like, basically, the
overall feeling and vibe
786
00:34:43,808 --> 00:34:45,674
is that it's gonna get them.
787
00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:48,010
Also, what I was
seeing was the...
788
00:34:48,146 --> 00:34:52,114
It getting physical, hitting the bed.
789
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,066
I felt the mattress jolting up.
790
00:34:54,185 --> 00:34:57,953
I saw it trying to bite or
scratch or burn this person
791
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:03,125
and trying to hit this
person, pulling their hair.
792
00:35:03,211 --> 00:35:06,512
Now, Richard, his girlfriend, Sophie,
793
00:35:06,631 --> 00:35:08,464
- she don't stay here anymore.
- Right.
794
00:35:08,549 --> 00:35:11,617
She won't even come
here when it's dark out.
795
00:35:11,736 --> 00:35:15,070
Would you mind telling Amy about
what happened to her one night?
796
00:35:15,206 --> 00:35:21,544
She was held down in the bed,
and it was scratching her neck,
797
00:35:21,646 --> 00:35:24,263
and something bit her.
798
00:35:24,382 --> 00:35:26,715
Now, you mentioned something
about the bed shaking?
799
00:35:26,801 --> 00:35:28,050
- Yeah.
- Happened to Carlos?
800
00:35:28,152 --> 00:35:29,635
Yes, one time, he woke up,
801
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:30,803
and there was, like, someone banging
802
00:35:30,888 --> 00:35:33,189
at the foot of the bed.
803
00:35:33,291 --> 00:35:35,291
And someone was, like,
it was almost like they
804
00:35:35,393 --> 00:35:37,626
were punching the bottom of
the bed through the mattress
805
00:35:37,728 --> 00:35:38,961
so it would shake.
806
00:35:39,046 --> 00:35:40,062
Okay.
807
00:35:40,164 --> 00:35:42,815
What I was seeing, it was really weird.
808
00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:45,201
And so I did have a sketch done.
809
00:35:48,206 --> 00:35:53,042
This reminds me of something
that Sophie explained to me.
810
00:35:53,127 --> 00:35:55,127
Oh, my God.
811
00:36:03,521 --> 00:36:08,107
I've seen this face.
812
00:36:08,226 --> 00:36:11,377
Everybody in the house
is seeing shadow figures
813
00:36:11,495 --> 00:36:12,912
in different sizes.
814
00:36:12,997 --> 00:36:16,432
Sophie mentioned to me that
she saw this thing pillow-sized.
815
00:36:16,534 --> 00:36:18,734
Okay, interesting.
816
00:36:18,836 --> 00:36:20,202
It can change its size.
817
00:36:20,288 --> 00:36:23,005
It can be very small, very large.
818
00:36:23,107 --> 00:36:25,891
This is the 800-pound
gorilla in the room.
819
00:36:25,977 --> 00:36:27,993
I know from working with her,
what she was saying before,
820
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:32,615
this P.K. is developed
from a living agent,
821
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:34,283
usually in the house, correct?
822
00:36:34,418 --> 00:36:35,417
Yeah.
823
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:38,153
You have any idea who it may be?
824
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,322
What I got about this person
825
00:36:40,458 --> 00:36:45,527
was that the person's
extremely stressed out, female.
826
00:36:45,630 --> 00:36:50,065
And she had brown hair,
827
00:36:50,201 --> 00:36:53,535
about 45 years old, shorter than myself,
828
00:36:53,621 --> 00:36:56,989
going through hormonal changes.
829
00:36:57,074 --> 00:36:59,358
Yep, that's me.
830
00:36:59,477 --> 00:37:02,244
I'm having a little heart pain.
831
00:37:08,803 --> 00:37:10,686
So I caused this?
832
00:37:29,252 --> 00:37:30,123
You okay, buddy?
833
00:37:30,223 --> 00:37:31,172
Yeah. I just needed an...
834
00:37:31,257 --> 00:37:33,858
TERRY: All right. Just
take a deep breath.
835
00:37:33,994 --> 00:37:35,760
I know. Okay.
836
00:37:35,895 --> 00:37:37,061
Oh, my God.
837
00:37:37,147 --> 00:37:39,731
- Relax.
- I know.
838
00:37:39,799 --> 00:37:41,899
I'm feeling like I
brought all of this...
839
00:37:42,002 --> 00:37:44,652
I know. I don't want
you to feel that way.
840
00:37:44,771 --> 00:37:48,640
It's not like you did this maliciously.
841
00:37:48,775 --> 00:37:50,408
It's all of your stress.
842
00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:53,194
It's all of your pain.
It's all of your fears.
843
00:37:53,279 --> 00:37:55,179
It's all of your anger
844
00:37:55,281 --> 00:38:00,084
and, like, things that you
weren't able to deal with.
845
00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:02,136
And you put 'em all in this little ball,
846
00:38:02,255 --> 00:38:05,156
and it's completely uncontrollable.
847
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:07,875
And you don't even know you have it,
848
00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:11,312
so you can't do the
things to shut it down.
849
00:38:11,431 --> 00:38:12,730
STEVE: Listen, I... I
don't want to bring it up,
850
00:38:12,832 --> 00:38:15,083
but I want to make sure we
diagnose this the right way.
851
00:38:15,201 --> 00:38:16,250
You had mentioned to me, with Anthony,
852
00:38:16,369 --> 00:38:18,736
you weren't happy about him being gay.
853
00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:19,771
Mm-hmm.
854
00:38:19,873 --> 00:38:23,474
It was very difficult, yes.
855
00:38:23,576 --> 00:38:24,942
It's not your fault.
856
00:38:25,045 --> 00:38:27,912
STEVE: Okay, so what's your
relationship like with Sophie?
857
00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:32,383
Richard says I hate
all of his girlfriends.
858
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,819
So I'm wondering if
that's the same situation
859
00:38:34,904 --> 00:38:36,304
because what's happening to Sophie...
860
00:38:36,423 --> 00:38:38,122
- Is happening to him.
- To Carlos.
861
00:38:38,224 --> 00:38:40,007
It could be, yeah.
862
00:38:42,562 --> 00:38:45,129
I just want to know how to stop it.
863
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:51,185
STEVE: Well, Anthony, Terry, it's
been a tough night for you guys.
864
00:38:51,304 --> 00:38:54,455
Obviously, you heard things
that you didn't want to hear,
865
00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:55,742
but we don't pull punches.
866
00:38:55,842 --> 00:38:57,175
And that's why you brought us in.
867
00:38:57,277 --> 00:38:59,244
So now, we're gonna
answer your big question...
868
00:38:59,379 --> 00:39:01,913
Can you figure out a way how to get rid
869
00:39:02,015 --> 00:39:02,981
of whatever the hell's here
870
00:39:03,083 --> 00:39:04,382
so that you can live
here with your husband
871
00:39:04,518 --> 00:39:06,551
and with the rest of your family?
872
00:39:06,687 --> 00:39:08,820
So, for that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
873
00:39:15,443 --> 00:39:18,327
So the first thing
that we're gonna address
874
00:39:18,462 --> 00:39:20,596
is the P.K. manifestation.
875
00:39:20,698 --> 00:39:23,899
There are several things that
I would like for you to do.
876
00:39:24,001 --> 00:39:28,487
I want you to get what's
called craniosacral therapy.
877
00:39:28,606 --> 00:39:31,507
What the practitioner will do
is they'll place their hands
878
00:39:31,592 --> 00:39:34,176
on various parts of your body.
879
00:39:34,278 --> 00:39:38,797
And what this does is it's
an energetic form of healing.
880
00:39:38,883 --> 00:39:40,149
Okay.
881
00:39:40,234 --> 00:39:42,851
The other thing is that I would like you
882
00:39:42,953 --> 00:39:45,354
to look up Tibetan monk chanting.
883
00:39:45,439 --> 00:39:47,756
This is another way
that you can release,
884
00:39:47,842 --> 00:39:50,893
physically into the
environment, beauty, okay,
885
00:39:50,978 --> 00:39:55,699
and to, again, balance
your body physiologically,
886
00:39:55,799 --> 00:39:57,198
mentally, emotionally.
887
00:39:57,334 --> 00:39:58,450
Okay.
888
00:39:58,535 --> 00:40:01,186
As far as the P.K. manifestation,
889
00:40:01,305 --> 00:40:03,104
what's gonna happen is
over a period of time,
890
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:04,472
- it'll dissipate...
- Okay.
891
00:40:04,608 --> 00:40:09,244
Because it will have
nothing to feed off of anymore.
892
00:40:09,346 --> 00:40:12,013
The next thing is to get rid of
893
00:40:12,115 --> 00:40:14,182
the three dead people that we have here.
894
00:40:14,318 --> 00:40:19,204
What I would like is someone
who is a psychic knower
895
00:40:19,323 --> 00:40:23,124
who also practices demonology.
896
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:25,410
Now, we don't have a demon here,
897
00:40:25,495 --> 00:40:30,782
but we have very,
very nasty dead person.
898
00:40:30,867 --> 00:40:33,635
The demonology part of
it, with their experience,
899
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:36,955
is that they're gonna
know how to exorcise her.
900
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,141
So I do want an exorcism
performed by this person
901
00:40:40,243 --> 00:40:43,678
to throw her out.
902
00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:48,116
The old men, they're
basically trapped here by her.
903
00:40:48,218 --> 00:40:52,303
Once she's gone, they're
gonna want to leave.
904
00:40:52,389 --> 00:40:53,989
If we come back in a year,
905
00:40:54,074 --> 00:40:56,024
if they follow the advice you gave them,
906
00:40:56,109 --> 00:40:57,826
are we gonna see
a much happier...
907
00:40:57,928 --> 00:41:01,696
Oh, yeah. Oh, it'll be so, so different.
908
00:41:01,798 --> 00:41:03,715
That's what we need.
909
00:41:03,834 --> 00:41:07,035
I'm really rooting for you guys.
910
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,770
There's one other thing
You got to promise me
911
00:41:08,855 --> 00:41:10,438
that you're not gonna beat
yourself up about this.
912
00:41:10,524 --> 00:41:12,607
Well, I... of course I'm
gonna feel a little guilty,
913
00:41:12,743 --> 00:41:17,312
but knowing that I can fix it
will hopefully dissipate that.
914
00:41:17,414 --> 00:41:19,497
Okay. You gonna take Amy's advice?
915
00:41:19,616 --> 00:41:20,782
I'll make it work.
916
00:41:20,917 --> 00:41:22,150
Of course, absolutely.
917
00:41:22,285 --> 00:41:24,185
We'll figure it out tomorrow.
918
00:41:24,271 --> 00:41:26,371
We'll find people as soon as we can.
919
00:41:26,456 --> 00:41:29,591
Thank God we know what is going on now,
920
00:41:29,726 --> 00:41:32,127
and we can get rid of it.
921
00:41:32,229 --> 00:41:35,834
AMY: Anthony and Terry have
a difficult road ahead of them
922
00:41:35,859 --> 00:41:37,859
***
923
00:41:37,909 --> 00:41:42,459
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