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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,825 --> 00:00:11,957 AMY: He's agitated. 2 00:00:12,059 --> 00:00:14,727 He's not happy that I'm here. 3 00:00:14,829 --> 00:00:17,429 It gives me crazy vibes up and down my spine. 4 00:00:17,515 --> 00:00:19,832 He's making the living sick. 5 00:00:19,934 --> 00:00:21,700 To think that whatever's here is actually picking on you 6 00:00:21,786 --> 00:00:22,968 pisses me off. 7 00:00:23,971 --> 00:00:25,170 I have horrible nightmares. 8 00:00:25,272 --> 00:00:26,972 He is... 9 00:00:27,074 --> 00:00:28,907 an evil lunatic. 10 00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:31,049 This is bad, bad stuff all around. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,425 There's a dark presence. 12 00:00:35,525 --> 00:00:37,559 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:37,661 --> 00:00:39,561 These things, they're freaking out. 14 00:00:39,663 --> 00:00:40,962 They're from hell. 15 00:00:41,064 --> 00:00:42,063 I see dead people. 16 00:00:42,165 --> 00:00:43,331 They were being hunted. 17 00:00:43,433 --> 00:00:45,100 I speak to dead people. 18 00:00:45,202 --> 00:00:47,001 They were setting people on fire, 19 00:00:47,104 --> 00:00:48,136 burning them alive. 20 00:00:48,238 --> 00:00:49,637 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:49,740 --> 00:00:50,939 Her neck got broken. 22 00:00:51,041 --> 00:00:53,908 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:00:54,010 --> 00:00:55,777 I hear a gunshot. 24 00:00:55,879 --> 00:00:57,345 I rely on my partner. 25 00:00:57,447 --> 00:00:58,980 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 26 00:00:59,082 --> 00:01:00,815 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 27 00:01:00,917 --> 00:01:02,016 Something's not right here. 28 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:05,353 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:05,455 --> 00:01:06,393 It's not safe here. 30 00:01:06,493 --> 00:01:08,209 It's my job to reveal them. 31 00:01:08,328 --> 00:01:09,561 Are any of them buried on the property? 32 00:01:09,663 --> 00:01:10,629 They're all buried here. 33 00:01:10,731 --> 00:01:12,297 But Steve and I never speak... 34 00:01:12,399 --> 00:01:14,389 We never communicate during an investigation. 35 00:01:14,489 --> 00:01:15,789 Until the very end... 36 00:01:15,891 --> 00:01:17,090 I can't do it no more. 37 00:01:17,192 --> 00:01:19,125 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 38 00:01:19,227 --> 00:01:20,994 Holy [bleep] Look at this. 39 00:01:21,096 --> 00:01:22,295 Or time to get out. 40 00:01:22,397 --> 00:01:23,763 It does not have a happy ending. 41 00:01:23,865 --> 00:01:26,032 Something kills people here. 42 00:01:27,523 --> 00:01:31,561 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 43 00:01:32,507 --> 00:01:34,707 [Eerie music plays] 44 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,648 STEVE: I'm in Wausau, Wisconsin, 45 00:01:41,748 --> 00:01:43,165 about an hour and a half from Green Bay. 46 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:46,572 I didn't think long about taking on this case. 47 00:01:46,657 --> 00:01:48,240 I received a call from a mother of four 48 00:01:48,375 --> 00:01:50,092 who just moved into a new townhouse 49 00:01:50,210 --> 00:01:52,261 and says the entire family's under attack. 50 00:01:53,447 --> 00:01:54,379 Now, to make things worse, 51 00:01:54,465 --> 00:01:56,582 she has a degenerative eye disease 52 00:01:56,667 --> 00:01:58,550 and now is legally blind. 53 00:01:58,652 --> 00:01:59,735 Her story really touched my heart, 54 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:01,320 and I hope we can bring this woman some peace. 55 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:08,969 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives... 56 00:02:09,054 --> 00:02:10,170 [Door creaks] 57 00:02:10,306 --> 00:02:11,772 I clear the area of any leading information... 58 00:02:13,676 --> 00:02:16,477 covering personal items 59 00:02:16,562 --> 00:02:19,997 and removing family photos that may influence her findings. 60 00:02:21,717 --> 00:02:23,350 When I'm done, 61 00:02:23,452 --> 00:02:25,769 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 62 00:02:39,702 --> 00:02:43,287 AMY: There's a lot going on around here. 63 00:02:43,405 --> 00:02:45,389 There's a lady... 64 00:02:45,508 --> 00:02:48,625 she's got a really bad vibe to her. 65 00:02:48,711 --> 00:02:51,712 She's claiming to be either Death 66 00:02:51,814 --> 00:02:53,981 or associated with Death. 67 00:02:57,186 --> 00:02:58,986 Ahh, this is a disaster. 68 00:03:00,923 --> 00:03:01,889 There's a jerk, 69 00:03:01,991 --> 00:03:04,425 and he's not happy that I'm here. 70 00:03:04,842 --> 00:03:07,109 He said something about trying to stab me in the eye 71 00:03:07,211 --> 00:03:08,310 with, like, needles. 72 00:03:08,412 --> 00:03:09,645 [Eerie music plays] 73 00:03:19,223 --> 00:03:20,664 STEVE: So, Beth, when I spoke to you on the phone, 74 00:03:20,764 --> 00:03:22,130 it was obvious that your problems here 75 00:03:22,232 --> 00:03:23,398 are pretty intense. 76 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:24,633 Before we even get to that, 77 00:03:24,735 --> 00:03:26,435 I want to talk about your medical condition. 78 00:03:26,537 --> 00:03:28,003 You're going blind. 79 00:03:28,088 --> 00:03:31,707 Yes, just been slowly going blind since I was like five. 80 00:03:31,792 --> 00:03:33,909 Can you explain to me what you're seeing right now? 81 00:03:33,994 --> 00:03:34,910 Do you see me? 82 00:03:34,995 --> 00:03:35,944 The clothes you're wearing are dark, 83 00:03:36,030 --> 00:03:37,896 and I can't see detail. 84 00:03:38,015 --> 00:03:40,115 Okay, and how much time do you have left? 85 00:03:40,217 --> 00:03:42,834 - Maybe a couple months. - Wow. 86 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,019 I mean, it breaks my heart. 87 00:03:44,121 --> 00:03:45,871 It's one of the main reasons I took this case. 88 00:03:47,208 --> 00:03:48,791 How long have you guys been here? 89 00:03:48,893 --> 00:03:51,193 We've only been here for like four months. 90 00:03:51,278 --> 00:03:55,397 The last two places we were at got really intense. 91 00:03:55,499 --> 00:03:58,782 It's happened pretty much everywhere we've lived. 92 00:03:58,882 --> 00:04:00,748 - But now you bought this place? - Yes. 93 00:04:00,850 --> 00:04:03,518 We can't just up and leave like we did the last two houses. 94 00:04:03,653 --> 00:04:06,621 Who exactly lives here in the house with you? 95 00:04:06,723 --> 00:04:10,758 It's me, my fianc?, Klay, our 4 kids... 96 00:04:10,860 --> 00:04:15,129 - Jeanette, she's 16, Mitchell, he's 14. - Okay. 97 00:04:15,231 --> 00:04:17,932 Kayleigh's seven, and then Klayton is six. 98 00:04:18,034 --> 00:04:20,968 Okay, so, why don't you take me through what's going on? 99 00:04:21,071 --> 00:04:22,236 You can hear stomping, 100 00:04:22,339 --> 00:04:25,373 you'll hear walking up and down the stairs, 101 00:04:25,508 --> 00:04:28,862 see a lot of dark shadows, and you'll hear voices. 102 00:04:28,962 --> 00:04:31,430 You feel like you're being watched 24/7, 103 00:04:31,515 --> 00:04:32,464 everywhere you are. 104 00:04:32,549 --> 00:04:35,450 And it's started getting physical now. 105 00:04:35,536 --> 00:04:37,569 And I got to assume this is frightening the kids. 106 00:04:37,671 --> 00:04:39,137 We all sleep in here. 107 00:04:39,273 --> 00:04:40,180 This is where we all come. 108 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:42,414 We move the table, and we make a bed on the floor. 109 00:04:42,516 --> 00:04:44,582 - All you guys? - Yeah. 110 00:04:44,685 --> 00:04:46,551 Nobody wants to be in their room. 111 00:04:46,637 --> 00:04:48,920 I'm scared to death of my bedroom. 112 00:04:49,006 --> 00:04:50,555 When you guys are all sleeping down here, 113 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,057 does that make things better for you guys? 114 00:04:52,192 --> 00:04:53,091 No, not really. 115 00:04:53,226 --> 00:04:55,927 I've started getting a little bit drained, 116 00:04:56,063 --> 00:04:58,296 feeling more tired than usual. 117 00:04:58,382 --> 00:05:01,933 The kids complain about stomachaches and headaches. 118 00:05:02,069 --> 00:05:04,536 As the activity intensifies, 119 00:05:04,621 --> 00:05:06,679 so does, like, the health issues. 120 00:05:06,779 --> 00:05:08,529 To think that whatever's here is actually picking on you 121 00:05:08,614 --> 00:05:09,830 pisses me off... 122 00:05:09,949 --> 00:05:11,782 I mean, to the point where I want to strangle somebody. 123 00:05:11,918 --> 00:05:14,518 I don't know how you're as composed as you are. 124 00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:15,686 I just... 125 00:05:17,023 --> 00:05:18,689 learned to keep my composure very well. 126 00:05:18,774 --> 00:05:20,291 I have to. 127 00:05:20,393 --> 00:05:21,759 I just don't really have a choice. 128 00:05:21,861 --> 00:05:23,661 - I have to do it for the kids. - Right. 129 00:05:23,763 --> 00:05:25,996 'Cause they're my first concern. 130 00:05:28,334 --> 00:05:29,900 You okay? 131 00:05:30,036 --> 00:05:31,635 I know, honey. I'm sorry. 132 00:05:33,873 --> 00:05:35,839 I know. 133 00:05:35,908 --> 00:05:38,125 You know, you're allowed to break down once in awhile. 134 00:05:42,615 --> 00:05:45,783 I just don't want my kids to have to rely on everybody else. 135 00:05:45,885 --> 00:05:47,284 I should be the one 136 00:05:47,370 --> 00:05:48,819 that is able to take care of them 137 00:05:48,921 --> 00:05:49,970 and protect them and... 138 00:05:50,089 --> 00:05:51,772 Yeah, but you can't do it all by yourself. 139 00:06:04,604 --> 00:06:06,170 "Dire." 140 00:06:06,272 --> 00:06:08,839 "Dire." 141 00:06:08,924 --> 00:06:10,074 "Dire, dire." 142 00:06:10,386 --> 00:06:11,685 Ah, somebody keeps yelling that. 143 00:06:11,788 --> 00:06:12,887 Okay, okay. 144 00:06:14,891 --> 00:06:16,657 Somebody here is affected 145 00:06:16,742 --> 00:06:19,727 by the energy here, 146 00:06:19,812 --> 00:06:22,014 which is making them... 147 00:06:22,114 --> 00:06:24,582 like, disoriented. 148 00:06:27,036 --> 00:06:29,270 They can't... 149 00:06:29,355 --> 00:06:31,822 function properly. 150 00:06:32,992 --> 00:06:36,527 I think that it's making them feel sick, drained. 151 00:06:38,164 --> 00:06:39,263 Mm. 152 00:06:40,666 --> 00:06:42,266 Very... bad. 153 00:06:50,916 --> 00:06:51,848 STEVE: You know, Beth, looking around, 154 00:06:51,951 --> 00:06:54,298 you guys obviously haven't really moved in yet. 155 00:06:54,398 --> 00:06:57,199 We don't use this room, really. 156 00:06:57,334 --> 00:06:58,483 'Cause you guys are downstairs. 157 00:06:58,569 --> 00:06:59,451 Yeah. 158 00:06:59,536 --> 00:07:00,836 Okay, so, what's happening up here 159 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:02,137 that's scaring you guys off? 160 00:07:02,239 --> 00:07:04,823 You can hear walking around up here 161 00:07:04,942 --> 00:07:06,691 when everyone's sleeping. 162 00:07:06,777 --> 00:07:08,293 Well, you got six people living in the house. 163 00:07:08,412 --> 00:07:10,479 - Kids sleepwalk or anything like that? - No. 164 00:07:10,614 --> 00:07:11,646 How often are you hearing that? 165 00:07:11,782 --> 00:07:13,181 Daily. Okay. 166 00:07:13,317 --> 00:07:14,316 Anything else up here? 167 00:07:14,418 --> 00:07:16,468 Shadows, lots of shadows. 168 00:07:16,587 --> 00:07:18,820 I'm not trying to be mean, but you have this eye problem. 169 00:07:18,922 --> 00:07:20,639 You're seeing shadows because of your eyes? 170 00:07:20,724 --> 00:07:22,657 No, I don't think so. 171 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:24,092 Everyone else has seen them. 172 00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:30,599 AMY: Death Lady is... 173 00:07:30,701 --> 00:07:31,800 happy. 174 00:07:31,903 --> 00:07:33,686 She seems... 175 00:07:33,804 --> 00:07:36,488 excited and enthusiastic. 176 00:07:37,933 --> 00:07:40,683 She wants me to go upstairs. 177 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,088 [Floorboards creaking] 178 00:07:45,190 --> 00:07:46,172 Mm. 179 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:53,062 She tells me that she has a lot of business in this area. 180 00:07:53,148 --> 00:07:55,448 I'm gonna assume that that means 181 00:07:55,567 --> 00:07:58,868 that a lot of people die around here very often. 182 00:08:00,021 --> 00:08:02,772 AMY: Most people imagine Death looking like the Grim Reaper, 183 00:08:02,874 --> 00:08:06,843 but it can project itself any way it wants. 184 00:08:06,945 --> 00:08:09,145 And for some reason, it's showing itself to me 185 00:08:09,247 --> 00:08:11,514 as a short woman with a wide hat. 186 00:08:13,852 --> 00:08:15,552 Ugh. Geez. 187 00:08:15,654 --> 00:08:17,554 It's hard to breathe. 188 00:08:17,656 --> 00:08:18,855 There's a lot of crying... 189 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:25,995 hyperventilating. 190 00:08:26,097 --> 00:08:27,597 - The living, you're talking about? - Yeah, oh, yeah. 191 00:08:27,682 --> 00:08:30,350 Like, freaking out. 192 00:08:30,468 --> 00:08:32,685 This is bad, bad stuff all around. 193 00:08:41,346 --> 00:08:43,246 STEVE: So, Jeanette, I was talking to Mom. 194 00:08:43,348 --> 00:08:44,881 She says she relies on you a lot. 195 00:08:44,983 --> 00:08:47,116 I'm the oldest. I'm like her second eyes. 196 00:08:47,252 --> 00:08:49,202 - How old are you? - I'm 16. 197 00:08:49,287 --> 00:08:50,870 That's a lot for a 16-year-old to have to take on. 198 00:08:50,989 --> 00:08:52,091 Yeah. 199 00:08:52,191 --> 00:08:54,491 So, what kind of things are happening to you? 200 00:08:54,593 --> 00:08:55,726 What's going on? 201 00:08:55,828 --> 00:08:58,312 I'm seeing a tall black figure that looks like a human, 202 00:08:58,430 --> 00:08:59,696 but just black shadow. 203 00:08:59,798 --> 00:09:02,266 And would you say it was a male or a female? 204 00:09:02,292 --> 00:09:02,908 Male. 205 00:09:02,968 --> 00:09:04,301 Anything face... 206 00:09:04,436 --> 00:09:05,698 could you see any face, or it was all black? 207 00:09:05,724 --> 00:09:06,144 All black. 208 00:09:06,238 --> 00:09:07,446 You blink, and then it's gone. 209 00:09:08,156 --> 00:09:09,605 Okay, now, where are you seeing it? 210 00:09:09,691 --> 00:09:11,007 I always see it upstairs. 211 00:09:11,092 --> 00:09:12,742 It just happened yesterday. 212 00:09:12,877 --> 00:09:13,826 I was going to sleep, 213 00:09:13,912 --> 00:09:15,878 and I got this feeling of being watched. 214 00:09:15,964 --> 00:09:17,380 And I turned around, 215 00:09:17,482 --> 00:09:20,583 and there's that black figure standing in front of my door. 216 00:09:20,718 --> 00:09:21,751 So, what happens? 217 00:09:21,836 --> 00:09:22,635 I screamed, 218 00:09:22,754 --> 00:09:24,687 and I ran straight downstairs. 219 00:09:24,822 --> 00:09:25,855 Okay, interesting. 220 00:09:25,990 --> 00:09:27,285 Do you have anything else going on? 221 00:09:27,385 --> 00:09:30,069 Yes, there are times when I wake up in the morning, 222 00:09:30,188 --> 00:09:31,854 and I'll have these bruises. 223 00:09:32,790 --> 00:09:34,256 They're usually always on my legs. 224 00:09:34,358 --> 00:09:36,192 In fact, I woke up with one this morning. 225 00:09:40,064 --> 00:09:41,197 Well, that could almost anything, sweetie. 226 00:09:41,299 --> 00:09:42,598 You might have a deficiency in a vitamin or something. 227 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:45,167 - But you don't know how you've done it? - Yeah. 228 00:09:45,269 --> 00:09:47,582 I don't remember hitting myself on anything. 229 00:09:47,682 --> 00:09:49,148 Okay, so you're just waking up like that. 230 00:09:49,234 --> 00:09:50,416 Yes. 231 00:09:50,502 --> 00:09:52,001 How do you even sleep at night? 232 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,286 It's hard to sleep. 233 00:09:53,421 --> 00:09:56,756 And whenever I do fall asleep, I have horrible nightmares. 234 00:10:01,229 --> 00:10:03,046 AMY: [Sighs] 235 00:10:03,164 --> 00:10:03,963 Mnh-mnh. 236 00:10:04,966 --> 00:10:08,368 Death Lady a lot in here. [Groans] 237 00:10:09,471 --> 00:10:14,173 Well, she does come through the door in the closet. 238 00:10:15,911 --> 00:10:17,810 A creepy guy comes in here, too... 239 00:10:17,913 --> 00:10:20,146 the one who threatened me outside. 240 00:10:21,449 --> 00:10:24,083 Do you have any idea if anybody's seen him? 241 00:10:24,185 --> 00:10:26,386 He's pretty [bleep] strong, 242 00:10:26,488 --> 00:10:29,322 so I would assume it's a possibility. 243 00:10:29,424 --> 00:10:31,541 There is a girl... 244 00:10:31,626 --> 00:10:32,859 a teenager, getting choked. 245 00:10:32,961 --> 00:10:35,878 I think maybe he's the one who's choking her. 246 00:10:35,997 --> 00:10:38,631 And he's influencing this girl, 247 00:10:38,733 --> 00:10:40,833 making bad thoughts in her head 248 00:10:40,936 --> 00:10:44,404 to do things to herself that are not good. 249 00:10:44,506 --> 00:10:45,638 Death cannot intervene. 250 00:10:45,740 --> 00:10:48,508 It can only watch, wait. 251 00:10:51,846 --> 00:10:53,546 Why is he doing this? 252 00:10:53,648 --> 00:10:56,649 Because he is an evil lunatic. 253 00:11:17,521 --> 00:11:19,942 I understand that you guys only lived here a few months 254 00:11:20,042 --> 00:11:21,776 and some things have been going on. 255 00:11:23,179 --> 00:11:24,945 Okay. So, Kayleigh, how old are you? 256 00:11:25,014 --> 00:11:26,680 - Seven. - Seven. 257 00:11:26,766 --> 00:11:29,083 - And, Klayton, how old are you, buddy? - Six. 258 00:11:29,185 --> 00:11:30,217 Why don't you, Kayleigh, 259 00:11:30,303 --> 00:11:31,685 tell me one thing that's happened 260 00:11:31,771 --> 00:11:33,320 that you can remember? 261 00:11:33,423 --> 00:11:35,222 Upstairs in my bedroom, 262 00:11:35,324 --> 00:11:39,260 someone was looking through the window. 263 00:11:39,362 --> 00:11:41,162 I think it was a man. 264 00:11:41,264 --> 00:11:42,746 Do you know if he was a man like me? 265 00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:44,198 Was he an older man, white man? 266 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,700 He was all black. 267 00:11:46,803 --> 00:11:47,685 How about you, buddy? 268 00:11:47,770 --> 00:11:49,003 Did you ever see anything like that? 269 00:11:49,088 --> 00:11:53,607 I know I saw that down here in the window. 270 00:11:53,709 --> 00:11:54,742 Which window? 271 00:11:54,877 --> 00:11:55,626 In here. 272 00:11:55,745 --> 00:11:57,278 In the kitchen here? 273 00:11:57,380 --> 00:11:58,729 Can you tell me what he looked like? 274 00:11:58,815 --> 00:12:00,147 Black in color. 275 00:12:00,233 --> 00:12:02,249 Okay, did he frighten you? 276 00:12:02,385 --> 00:12:03,284 He did. 277 00:12:03,386 --> 00:12:05,586 - So, anything else happen to you? - Mm... 278 00:12:07,089 --> 00:12:09,023 I remember when I was asleep, 279 00:12:09,125 --> 00:12:11,158 and then I was getting poked. 280 00:12:11,294 --> 00:12:12,793 Show me how you got poked. 281 00:12:12,895 --> 00:12:14,028 Let me feel it. 282 00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:14,962 Like that? 283 00:12:16,114 --> 00:12:17,447 Okay, did it wake you up? 284 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,900 You guys like living here? 285 00:12:20,819 --> 00:12:22,919 - Mnh-mnh. - Not that much. 286 00:12:23,005 --> 00:12:27,707 We only sleep downstairs 'cause we're scared a lot. 287 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:31,344 AMY: Oh, God. 288 00:12:31,446 --> 00:12:32,412 MATTHEW: You all right? 289 00:12:32,514 --> 00:12:34,814 I think I might have to leave soon. 290 00:12:34,917 --> 00:12:36,049 What's going on? 291 00:12:36,151 --> 00:12:37,584 The guy... 292 00:12:37,686 --> 00:12:39,319 What is he doing to you? 293 00:12:39,421 --> 00:12:42,856 He keeps, like, touching me and... 294 00:12:42,958 --> 00:12:44,189 making me feel sick. 295 00:12:46,137 --> 00:12:48,271 Is this something he does to the living, also? 296 00:12:48,373 --> 00:12:51,240 I think that's possible. 297 00:12:51,343 --> 00:12:52,976 Yeah. 298 00:13:01,411 --> 00:13:03,719 I was talking to Beth about what's going on, 299 00:13:03,819 --> 00:13:05,318 and I tell you, she breaks my heart. 300 00:13:05,420 --> 00:13:07,721 - Strong woman, though. - Very, very. 301 00:13:07,806 --> 00:13:09,990 You got to be worried about her, I would think. 302 00:13:12,394 --> 00:13:14,227 [Voice breaking] I worry about everyone. 303 00:13:14,363 --> 00:13:15,996 I mean, I look at her, and I want to cry. 304 00:13:18,166 --> 00:13:20,600 Okay. You know, we bought it, and we want... 305 00:13:21,803 --> 00:13:22,969 I want this to be our home. 306 00:13:23,055 --> 00:13:26,840 Like, this is our final resting spot for Beth 'cause... 307 00:13:26,925 --> 00:13:29,843 or I say it's gonna be gone. 308 00:13:29,928 --> 00:13:33,413 I mean, I'm worried more about somebody getting hurt. 309 00:13:33,498 --> 00:13:34,514 Right. 310 00:13:34,616 --> 00:13:37,400 It gives me crazy vibes up and down my spine. 311 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,869 What about you? Have you experienced anything? 312 00:13:39,955 --> 00:13:40,904 Yeah. 313 00:13:41,023 --> 00:13:43,056 Sitting down, just chilling, watching TV, 314 00:13:43,158 --> 00:13:45,025 and I'm just sitting in my chair, 315 00:13:45,127 --> 00:13:47,761 and something just came right past me. 316 00:13:47,846 --> 00:13:49,646 You know, it was tall... 317 00:13:49,765 --> 00:13:52,299 well, probably at least six foot... 318 00:13:52,401 --> 00:13:55,535 kind of, like, dark-in-the-middle figure 319 00:13:55,637 --> 00:13:58,838 with a light glow around it. 320 00:13:58,941 --> 00:14:00,607 So I got up out of my chair, 321 00:14:00,709 --> 00:14:03,276 and I walked in the kitchen, and nobody there. 322 00:14:03,378 --> 00:14:04,978 I went into the garage. 323 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,580 And I looked, and nothing. 324 00:14:06,682 --> 00:14:07,914 That was whacked. 325 00:14:08,016 --> 00:14:10,333 It was shortly after my brother died. 326 00:14:10,419 --> 00:14:13,219 And my mother passed, and then my brother died. 327 00:14:13,322 --> 00:14:15,689 I lost like seven, eight, nine family members 328 00:14:15,774 --> 00:14:17,524 in like a matter of two years. 329 00:14:19,261 --> 00:14:20,794 I asked the good Lord... 330 00:14:23,632 --> 00:14:25,966 try to stay strong. 331 00:14:26,051 --> 00:14:27,384 When you saw the shadow, 332 00:14:27,469 --> 00:14:30,403 you thought maybe it was somebody from the family. 333 00:14:34,009 --> 00:14:36,176 AMY: [Whimpering] 334 00:14:37,913 --> 00:14:39,479 The energy down here 335 00:14:39,581 --> 00:14:42,165 is almost like you can grab it. 336 00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,250 It's so thick. 337 00:14:44,386 --> 00:14:48,421 The creepy guy from upstairs likes it down here, too. 338 00:14:48,523 --> 00:14:50,175 And he's being bad. 339 00:14:50,275 --> 00:14:53,643 He's influencing living people here. 340 00:14:54,596 --> 00:14:55,878 He's really good 341 00:14:56,014 --> 00:14:59,148 at making physical connections 342 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:00,316 with living people. 343 00:15:00,418 --> 00:15:02,516 Yeah, he's not doing good stuff. 344 00:15:02,616 --> 00:15:04,516 He's making the living sick. 345 00:15:04,585 --> 00:15:06,518 He's hurting them. 346 00:15:07,855 --> 00:15:09,855 Mm. Interesting. 347 00:15:09,957 --> 00:15:10,856 He's... 348 00:15:10,958 --> 00:15:13,392 He's very strong. 349 00:15:13,494 --> 00:15:15,060 [Chuckles nervously] 350 00:15:15,145 --> 00:15:18,346 Very, actually... very, very [bleep] very [bleep] strong. 351 00:15:20,467 --> 00:15:23,969 You got a problem with people getting physically touched here, 352 00:15:24,071 --> 00:15:26,605 you know, and keeping you guys up at night. 353 00:15:26,707 --> 00:15:28,673 You know, it's not good. 354 00:15:28,776 --> 00:15:30,475 There's definitely something. 355 00:15:30,561 --> 00:15:32,344 I'd really like to stay. 356 00:15:32,446 --> 00:15:35,247 I love her to death, and I'm here for her. 357 00:15:35,349 --> 00:15:38,250 I worry more about them than myself, 358 00:15:38,335 --> 00:15:40,635 'cause they're the ones that are suffering more. 359 00:15:43,791 --> 00:15:45,588 You know, that's what I'm here for. 360 00:15:45,688 --> 00:15:46,854 We'll do the best we can. 361 00:15:46,990 --> 00:15:47,972 Appreciate it. 362 00:15:48,091 --> 00:15:49,790 Ah, no worries. 363 00:15:51,361 --> 00:15:52,827 You're so welcome. 364 00:15:53,763 --> 00:15:54,795 You'll be all right, trust me. 365 00:16:11,664 --> 00:16:14,369 I started making some calls and found something surprising. 366 00:16:15,234 --> 00:16:16,275 Beth and Klay's property 367 00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:17,815 used to be part of a large factory. 368 00:16:17,915 --> 00:16:19,831 Apparently, they used to make fly swatters there. 369 00:16:20,717 --> 00:16:22,167 I'm heading over to meet with a local author 370 00:16:22,269 --> 00:16:23,451 who said there was nothing funny 371 00:16:23,537 --> 00:16:25,791 about what happened to the owner of that business. 372 00:16:30,377 --> 00:16:31,743 STEVE: So, Shawn, you mentioned on the phone 373 00:16:31,845 --> 00:16:34,312 that factory sitting on my client's property 374 00:16:34,414 --> 00:16:35,814 at one time made fly swatters. 375 00:16:35,899 --> 00:16:37,148 - Is that right? - Correct. 376 00:16:37,234 --> 00:16:38,199 What's the story with that? 377 00:16:38,285 --> 00:16:40,252 Well, Arthur Hurd and George Wilson 378 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,737 purchased your client's property around 1908, 379 00:16:42,856 --> 00:16:44,856 and by 1910, they had a factory built there. 380 00:16:44,958 --> 00:16:47,709 I have a map here that kind of shows where the factory was. 381 00:16:47,794 --> 00:16:52,030 It sat right where your client's house is right now. 382 00:16:52,115 --> 00:16:55,884 This is actually what the factory looked like. 383 00:16:56,003 --> 00:16:57,420 You said things went bad for these guys. 384 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,653 What happened? 385 00:16:58,755 --> 00:17:01,956 By 1911, Wilson left the company 386 00:17:02,058 --> 00:17:05,042 and left Mr. Hurd by himself to try to run the place. 387 00:17:05,128 --> 00:17:07,328 All right, so, how's it go for Hurd at this point? 388 00:17:07,430 --> 00:17:08,796 Well, it was a struggle for him. 389 00:17:08,898 --> 00:17:11,132 He didn't have the expertise that his partner had, 390 00:17:11,267 --> 00:17:13,034 but he continued to work forward, 391 00:17:13,136 --> 00:17:15,202 and he put his heart and soul into running it. 392 00:17:15,304 --> 00:17:17,838 And I think it became pretty stressful on him, 393 00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:20,207 and February 3rd of 1925, 394 00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:21,409 he actually suffered a heart attack 395 00:17:21,511 --> 00:17:22,443 at the site. 396 00:17:22,545 --> 00:17:23,481 In the factory? 397 00:17:23,581 --> 00:17:24,497 Correct. 398 00:17:24,582 --> 00:17:26,165 Here's actually his death certificate. 399 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,787 And he was pretty influential in the town because, 400 00:17:31,889 --> 00:17:33,139 right on the front page, 401 00:17:33,257 --> 00:17:34,890 they put in his obituary that day. 402 00:17:37,495 --> 00:17:40,196 AMY: I saw a very different structure than this one. 403 00:17:40,298 --> 00:17:44,383 The structure seemed large. 404 00:17:44,469 --> 00:17:48,337 I think it had bricks. 405 00:17:50,575 --> 00:17:52,408 There's a guy... 406 00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:54,510 he's agitated. 407 00:17:56,481 --> 00:17:58,380 He's very high-strung, 408 00:17:58,483 --> 00:18:00,883 and this is his territory, 409 00:18:00,985 --> 00:18:04,153 and he had to, I guess, fight really hard for it. 410 00:18:04,255 --> 00:18:08,123 This guy is not dealing with his death very well. 411 00:18:09,710 --> 00:18:11,060 I'm gonna say he died from, like, 412 00:18:11,162 --> 00:18:12,962 a stroke or a heart attack. 413 00:18:15,733 --> 00:18:17,133 After finding out that a factory 414 00:18:17,235 --> 00:18:19,135 used to sit right on my client's property 415 00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:22,105 and that the owner basically worked himself to death, 416 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:23,139 I hit the local library 417 00:18:23,241 --> 00:18:24,373 to see if there was anything else 418 00:18:24,459 --> 00:18:25,708 that could help my investigation. 419 00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:27,577 [Tape rewinds] 420 00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:30,379 Turns out, a massive insane asylum and poor farm 421 00:18:30,482 --> 00:18:32,014 operated for nearly 80 years 422 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,584 right next to Beth and Klayton's property. 423 00:18:36,087 --> 00:18:37,953 You know, from doing these investigations, 424 00:18:38,053 --> 00:18:40,103 I know a lot of these poor farms and mental asylums 425 00:18:40,189 --> 00:18:41,555 mistreated their patients. 426 00:18:41,657 --> 00:18:44,308 So I reached out to a local newspaper reporter. 427 00:18:44,426 --> 00:18:47,411 He said this place was filled with neglect, abuse, and death. 428 00:18:54,603 --> 00:18:57,371 So, Keith, the asylum seemed like it was really close 429 00:18:57,506 --> 00:18:58,672 to my client's original property line. 430 00:18:58,757 --> 00:19:00,307 - Is that right? - That's right. 431 00:19:00,409 --> 00:19:02,593 And as a matter of fact, you can see it. 432 00:19:02,678 --> 00:19:04,845 It's right over there across the river. 433 00:19:04,947 --> 00:19:06,930 Were you able to find out when this place was built? 434 00:19:07,016 --> 00:19:09,066 Yeah, it was built in 1893. 435 00:19:10,336 --> 00:19:12,870 It was in operation for about 78 years. 436 00:19:12,988 --> 00:19:14,288 How many people did this house? 437 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:16,623 It was big. It would've housed up to about 300 people. 438 00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:19,893 What kind of people would actually be treated at this place? 439 00:19:19,995 --> 00:19:21,762 There'd been schizophrenics. 440 00:19:21,847 --> 00:19:24,014 There would've been manic-depressives. 441 00:19:24,099 --> 00:19:25,799 There would've been the elderly. 442 00:19:25,901 --> 00:19:27,818 Now, you mentioned on the phone how bad the conditions were. 443 00:19:27,937 --> 00:19:28,869 What are we talking about? 444 00:19:28,971 --> 00:19:30,671 In the 1950s, the superintendents 445 00:19:30,773 --> 00:19:33,841 came under investigation by the Marathon County D.A. 446 00:19:33,943 --> 00:19:37,084 for overcrowded conditions, limited staffing. 447 00:19:37,184 --> 00:19:39,784 There were hundreds of people there. 448 00:19:39,870 --> 00:19:42,838 They only had four bathtubs. 449 00:19:42,906 --> 00:19:44,272 So, when I first contacted you, 450 00:19:44,374 --> 00:19:46,575 I asked you to find out if there was any unusual deaths 451 00:19:46,677 --> 00:19:47,626 that might help my case. 452 00:19:47,744 --> 00:19:49,161 Were you able to come up with anything? 453 00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:51,229 Yeah, I found five interesting deaths. 454 00:19:51,348 --> 00:19:53,548 The first one was in 1895, 455 00:19:53,634 --> 00:19:56,017 when an inmate hung himself. 456 00:19:58,105 --> 00:20:00,856 In 1899, three men were asphyxiated 457 00:20:00,941 --> 00:20:02,824 while working in a silo on the farm. 458 00:20:04,161 --> 00:20:06,962 In 1903, a 37-year-old inmate 459 00:20:07,064 --> 00:20:09,347 was stabbed to death by an 85-year-old inmate. 460 00:20:09,466 --> 00:20:10,532 What was it over? 461 00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:12,717 I guess it was over living quarters. 462 00:20:12,803 --> 00:20:13,919 Couple more. 463 00:20:14,004 --> 00:20:17,339 In 1920, a man named John Kyough told nurses 464 00:20:17,424 --> 00:20:19,908 that he was gonna go fishing down on the river. 465 00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,443 He had a wooden leg. 466 00:20:21,528 --> 00:20:24,679 He removed it, tied an anchor to his waist, 467 00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:26,298 threw himself in the river. 468 00:20:28,324 --> 00:20:30,173 You said there was five. What was the fifth? 469 00:20:30,276 --> 00:20:32,826 Yeah, there was one more inmate suicide. 470 00:20:32,945 --> 00:20:34,728 This one happened in 1933. 471 00:20:34,847 --> 00:20:37,948 He laid down on a stick of dynamite 472 00:20:38,033 --> 00:20:39,783 and blew himself up. 473 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,085 That's a lot of death. 474 00:20:42,187 --> 00:20:44,037 These are the ones we know about. 475 00:20:44,123 --> 00:20:47,024 There certainly would've had to been a lot more deaths. 476 00:20:47,126 --> 00:20:50,577 Nurses reported that they didn't even bother keeping records, 477 00:20:50,663 --> 00:20:52,579 'cause once people were brought in, 478 00:20:52,665 --> 00:20:55,766 they just expected them to be there forever till they died. 479 00:20:56,969 --> 00:20:58,001 Okay. 480 00:20:59,205 --> 00:21:01,472 AMY: I hear a male, and he said, 481 00:21:01,574 --> 00:21:04,410 "We are lost and need help out of here." 482 00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:06,344 And he said, 483 00:21:06,444 --> 00:21:09,679 "We can't see to find our way out." 484 00:21:09,814 --> 00:21:12,481 There's about 11 of them. 485 00:21:12,583 --> 00:21:15,151 They can't even see each other. 486 00:21:15,253 --> 00:21:17,253 I asked how did he die? 487 00:21:17,355 --> 00:21:19,455 He said, "A death camp." 488 00:21:43,246 --> 00:21:45,146 [Bird cries] 489 00:21:46,845 --> 00:21:49,357 One other thing got my attention during my research. 490 00:21:49,457 --> 00:21:52,444 There was a brutal murder about 1,200 feet from Beth's house. 491 00:21:52,544 --> 00:21:55,045 The victim was a young woman heading home from church. 492 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:56,680 Now, look, it may be a long shot, 493 00:21:56,765 --> 00:21:58,899 but I'm heading over to meet with a Wausau detective 494 00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:00,951 who said it was one of the most notorious crimes 495 00:22:01,036 --> 00:22:01,952 in the city's history. 496 00:22:09,177 --> 00:22:10,776 So, Greg, I came across this homicide 497 00:22:10,878 --> 00:22:12,978 that happened pretty close to my client's property. 498 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,313 What do you know about it? 499 00:22:14,415 --> 00:22:18,083 Murder happened on April 18, 1966. 500 00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:21,437 This is our victim... Mary Holzem, 26 years old. 501 00:22:21,522 --> 00:22:22,438 This is the guy that killed her... 502 00:22:22,523 --> 00:22:25,191 Eugene Schopf, 29 years old. 503 00:22:25,293 --> 00:22:26,609 All right, so, how's the homicide go down? 504 00:22:26,694 --> 00:22:28,928 Mary, she was walking home from church. 505 00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:31,697 Eugene Schopf here, he picks her up in a vehicle. 506 00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:33,999 They go down to a bar, and they have a couple of drinks, 507 00:22:34,101 --> 00:22:35,668 and then they leave together in a vehicle. 508 00:22:35,770 --> 00:22:37,536 And that's the last anybody sees of her. 509 00:22:37,638 --> 00:22:39,805 So, what happens after that? 510 00:22:39,907 --> 00:22:43,843 He was somewhat infatuated with her and came on to her. 511 00:22:43,978 --> 00:22:46,445 She resisted, and he stabbed her three times. 512 00:22:46,531 --> 00:22:47,813 She screamed... 513 00:22:47,899 --> 00:22:49,148 and then he cut her throat. 514 00:22:49,283 --> 00:22:50,783 Oof. 515 00:22:50,885 --> 00:22:52,774 This is a copy of Mary Holzem's death certificate. 516 00:22:54,174 --> 00:22:56,241 "Male subject apparently seduced victim 517 00:22:56,343 --> 00:22:58,176 to a secluded spot for his act." 518 00:22:59,437 --> 00:23:01,771 So, Greg, the actual location of the homicide, 519 00:23:01,873 --> 00:23:04,040 how far is that from my client's location? 520 00:23:04,142 --> 00:23:05,708 That was about a quarter of a mile. 521 00:23:05,793 --> 00:23:08,711 Okay, so, now, from the article, I understand he was caught. 522 00:23:08,796 --> 00:23:10,388 How'd they wind up getting him? 523 00:23:10,415 --> 00:23:14,083 Police received a call at about 10:45 that night 524 00:23:14,169 --> 00:23:17,053 that there was screaming coming from an area 525 00:23:17,155 --> 00:23:18,755 just two blocks down from that bar. 526 00:23:18,857 --> 00:23:20,723 Police officers go over to the bar, 527 00:23:20,809 --> 00:23:21,808 talk to the bartender. 528 00:23:21,927 --> 00:23:24,928 Bartender tells them, "Yep, Mary was in here, 529 00:23:25,030 --> 00:23:27,480 and she was with a guy by the name of Gene Schopf. 530 00:23:27,566 --> 00:23:28,765 So they knew the guy. 531 00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:30,300 They knew the guy. 532 00:23:30,402 --> 00:23:31,868 They go down to his house. 533 00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:33,052 They look at the vehicle, 534 00:23:33,171 --> 00:23:34,304 they find blood in the trunk, 535 00:23:34,389 --> 00:23:35,972 they find bloody clothes in the back seat. 536 00:23:36,057 --> 00:23:38,039 Gene confesses to killing her. 537 00:23:38,235 --> 00:23:41,169 That's his booking photo from the 19th, 538 00:23:41,271 --> 00:23:43,538 - the day after she was killed. - Okay. 539 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,906 He was charged with first-degree murder. 540 00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:46,574 Wow. 541 00:23:50,514 --> 00:23:52,380 [Groaning] 542 00:23:55,152 --> 00:23:56,851 Ah, there's a man and a woman, 543 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,054 and the man is the creepy guy. 544 00:23:59,139 --> 00:24:02,223 They're both dead, and... 545 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,960 It's bad. It's so bad. It's so bad. 546 00:24:05,062 --> 00:24:08,263 They knew each other when they were alive. 547 00:24:08,365 --> 00:24:10,665 And she's always... 548 00:24:10,751 --> 00:24:13,902 trying to get away from him... 549 00:24:14,004 --> 00:24:15,437 still. 550 00:24:17,441 --> 00:24:20,375 Mm. Mnh-mnh. 551 00:24:20,477 --> 00:24:22,744 Her heart's racing, 552 00:24:22,846 --> 00:24:26,514 'cause she's got to get away. 553 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,516 And she's... 554 00:24:28,618 --> 00:24:31,019 very stressed-out. 555 00:24:31,104 --> 00:24:34,689 I think that the woman died here. 556 00:24:39,363 --> 00:24:40,796 I saw knives... 557 00:24:41,749 --> 00:24:44,500 somebody messing with knives. 558 00:24:46,704 --> 00:24:47,903 [Sighs] 559 00:24:48,005 --> 00:24:49,371 Okay, so, what happens at the trial? 560 00:24:49,473 --> 00:24:52,147 He goes to court and pleads "not guilty by reason of insanity." 561 00:24:52,247 --> 00:24:53,646 It's a pretty brutal crime. 562 00:24:53,748 --> 00:24:56,015 Is there any indication he's done this before? 563 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,651 It came out that, in 1954, 564 00:24:58,753 --> 00:25:01,854 he had asked military doctors for help 565 00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:03,489 because he had thoughts 566 00:25:03,591 --> 00:25:06,425 of slicing the throats of animals 567 00:25:06,561 --> 00:25:08,327 and he thought he might hurt a woman. 568 00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:10,163 - He asked for help. - He did. 569 00:25:10,298 --> 00:25:12,331 Obviously, he didn't get it, 570 00:25:12,467 --> 00:25:15,168 'cause this guy's got the markings of a serial killer... 571 00:25:15,253 --> 00:25:16,469 especially with the animals. 572 00:25:16,554 --> 00:25:17,587 Yeah. 573 00:25:17,672 --> 00:25:19,639 In July of 1966, 574 00:25:19,724 --> 00:25:22,058 he was found "not guilty by reason of insanity." 575 00:25:22,177 --> 00:25:25,111 He was committed to a state mental institution 576 00:25:25,213 --> 00:25:26,546 in Waupun, Wisconsin. 577 00:25:26,648 --> 00:25:28,915 In the early '70s, he was released. 578 00:25:29,017 --> 00:25:30,349 That son of a [bleep] 579 00:25:30,451 --> 00:25:32,652 Can't believe they let this guy out. 580 00:25:32,754 --> 00:25:34,320 What happened after he was released? 581 00:25:34,422 --> 00:25:37,707 Last information we have is he moves to Alabama 582 00:25:37,825 --> 00:25:41,627 and dies in 2002 at age 65. 583 00:25:44,399 --> 00:25:46,132 This creepy guy, 584 00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:49,635 he didn't die a long time ago. 585 00:25:52,473 --> 00:25:53,673 I don't think he's that old, 586 00:25:53,775 --> 00:25:56,976 maybe in his early 50s, 587 00:25:57,078 --> 00:26:00,846 and he does not like animals. 588 00:26:00,932 --> 00:26:04,116 And children are pests. 589 00:26:04,202 --> 00:26:07,720 Woman are pests... bad, evil, evil creatures. 590 00:26:07,822 --> 00:26:09,522 They're evil creatures. 591 00:26:09,624 --> 00:26:12,508 He is very mentally [Chuckles] ill. 592 00:26:12,594 --> 00:26:13,392 Mm. 593 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:17,997 I see 5 and a 4, 54, 594 00:26:18,082 --> 00:26:19,832 so... 595 00:26:19,968 --> 00:26:21,250 something like that. 596 00:26:21,369 --> 00:26:23,469 He is evil, 597 00:26:23,605 --> 00:26:25,521 and he wants 598 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,208 nothing good for anybody. 599 00:26:35,316 --> 00:26:37,550 AMY: I saw several dead people during my walk, 600 00:26:37,652 --> 00:26:39,885 but two stood out the most... 601 00:26:39,988 --> 00:26:42,338 first, the creepy man choking a living teenager 602 00:26:42,457 --> 00:26:43,389 in the house. 603 00:26:43,491 --> 00:26:47,026 He has, like, a huge rope... 604 00:26:48,129 --> 00:26:52,465 and he's strangling the kid with it. 605 00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:56,135 Over on the side, in front of this big closet, 606 00:26:56,237 --> 00:27:01,057 is this woman who is really Death, 607 00:27:01,142 --> 00:27:05,111 and she's watching this situation happening. 608 00:27:05,196 --> 00:27:08,581 Next, I describe how Death showed herself to me. 609 00:27:08,683 --> 00:27:11,851 She had a... hat on, 610 00:27:11,953 --> 00:27:13,419 and it was black. 611 00:27:13,504 --> 00:27:16,906 She had very large eyes, 612 00:27:16,991 --> 00:27:20,893 and she was wearing, like, a fur-collar thing, 613 00:27:20,979 --> 00:27:22,094 and it was black. 614 00:27:22,196 --> 00:27:24,230 [Pencil scratching] 615 00:27:27,435 --> 00:27:28,901 Is this who you saw? 616 00:27:29,971 --> 00:27:31,103 Yes, that's who I saw. 617 00:27:50,813 --> 00:27:53,586 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 618 00:27:53,686 --> 00:27:55,752 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 619 00:27:55,855 --> 00:27:57,855 and our clients for the first time. 620 00:27:57,957 --> 00:28:00,924 So, Amy, when I decided that we should take on this case, 621 00:28:01,010 --> 00:28:02,226 I knew it was gonna be emotional, 622 00:28:02,311 --> 00:28:04,194 but I didn't realize how emotional. 623 00:28:04,296 --> 00:28:05,429 This is Beth. 624 00:28:06,265 --> 00:28:08,832 She's one of the strongest women I've ever met. 625 00:28:08,934 --> 00:28:12,402 And this is her very supportive fianc?, Klay. 626 00:28:12,505 --> 00:28:15,639 Now, on top of dealing with a really bad paranormal problem 627 00:28:15,741 --> 00:28:16,874 that they have here, 628 00:28:16,959 --> 00:28:18,692 Beth has a disease that's gonna leave her blind 629 00:28:18,777 --> 00:28:21,128 within the next three to four months. 630 00:28:22,665 --> 00:28:23,630 She called us in 631 00:28:23,749 --> 00:28:25,532 because she's desperate to make sure 632 00:28:25,618 --> 00:28:28,685 that their four kids are okay 633 00:28:28,771 --> 00:28:31,355 before she goes completely blind. 634 00:28:33,592 --> 00:28:35,325 So, now that Amy knows a little bit about your background, 635 00:28:35,461 --> 00:28:39,963 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us. 636 00:28:40,049 --> 00:28:42,165 AMY: Honestly, I was not looking forward 637 00:28:42,301 --> 00:28:44,051 to walking through the door, 638 00:28:44,169 --> 00:28:47,254 but I did, and as soon as I came in here, 639 00:28:47,373 --> 00:28:50,173 I was hearing somebody yelling, 640 00:28:50,259 --> 00:28:53,377 "Dire, dire, dire!" 641 00:28:53,462 --> 00:28:55,746 Somebody here 642 00:28:55,831 --> 00:29:00,267 is affected by the energy here, 643 00:29:00,352 --> 00:29:01,818 which is making them... 644 00:29:01,904 --> 00:29:04,388 like, disoriented. 645 00:29:07,109 --> 00:29:08,108 Then... [Sighs] 646 00:29:08,193 --> 00:29:10,260 I went upstairs, 647 00:29:10,346 --> 00:29:12,796 and I was so sick up there. 648 00:29:12,898 --> 00:29:16,767 I felt so drained and horrible. 649 00:29:18,304 --> 00:29:20,270 BETH: I get a lot of headaches. 650 00:29:20,372 --> 00:29:21,305 I'm just tired. 651 00:29:21,407 --> 00:29:23,240 I don't want to do anything. 652 00:29:23,342 --> 00:29:26,510 I just have, like, absolutely no 653 00:29:26,612 --> 00:29:28,178 "get up and go." 654 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,947 Klay, don't the kids have stomachaches a lot? 655 00:29:30,082 --> 00:29:32,849 Oh, yeah, they get stomach, headache, 656 00:29:32,985 --> 00:29:35,485 and you can tell they're not themselves. 657 00:29:35,621 --> 00:29:37,537 Now, one thing you should know about Beth 658 00:29:37,656 --> 00:29:40,424 is that she felt this way in her last place. 659 00:29:40,509 --> 00:29:42,492 Yeah, the last place... 660 00:29:42,578 --> 00:29:43,994 actually, the last two places. 661 00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,863 It started out little things, 662 00:29:46,949 --> 00:29:49,316 and then it just intensifies 663 00:29:49,435 --> 00:29:52,102 to the point where it gets... 664 00:29:52,187 --> 00:29:53,620 like, physical. 665 00:29:56,375 --> 00:29:58,759 [Dramatic music plays] 666 00:29:59,762 --> 00:30:01,645 [Breathes deeply] 667 00:30:08,454 --> 00:30:11,155 I just wish there was something I could do to stop it. 668 00:30:11,291 --> 00:30:13,824 [Breathes deeply] 669 00:30:15,828 --> 00:30:16,794 You okay, honey? 670 00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:35,658 - Sorry. - No. 671 00:30:35,758 --> 00:30:37,873 I don't give a [bleep] about the cameras, okay? 672 00:30:37,973 --> 00:30:40,224 If you need to take a break, you tell me. 673 00:30:40,309 --> 00:30:43,609 I just have a hard time talking about those places. 674 00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,725 It's okay. That's why we're here. 675 00:30:45,827 --> 00:30:48,128 In those houses, there was lots of shadows, 676 00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:50,647 and I would see them reach out for the kids. 677 00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:53,433 I just feel like I'm going nuts or something. 678 00:30:53,535 --> 00:30:55,952 It's crazy. 679 00:30:56,071 --> 00:30:57,904 And had that kind of stuff 680 00:30:58,006 --> 00:31:00,006 happened throughout your life? 681 00:31:00,108 --> 00:31:01,174 Yeah. 682 00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:03,276 I've had issues as long as I can remember. 683 00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:11,918 There are two main entities 684 00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:14,721 that are in this house, 685 00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:15,755 and they're the ones 686 00:31:15,891 --> 00:31:18,758 that I'm most concerned about. 687 00:31:18,894 --> 00:31:21,061 The first was the female. 688 00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:24,297 She explained to me that she is Death. 689 00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:28,768 The other interesting thing 690 00:31:28,904 --> 00:31:31,171 is that she interacts directly with the living. 691 00:31:32,441 --> 00:31:35,275 She was very excited for me to go upstairs 692 00:31:35,377 --> 00:31:36,530 and see what was going on up there. 693 00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:39,530 She was actually waiting at the top of the staircase, 694 00:31:39,616 --> 00:31:40,815 like, smiling. 695 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,901 And I think she causes 696 00:31:43,987 --> 00:31:46,237 a lot of the living stress. 697 00:31:47,307 --> 00:31:50,458 People may see her as a silhouette. 698 00:31:50,544 --> 00:31:52,677 She wears a hat, 699 00:31:52,779 --> 00:31:54,613 and people may see that. 700 00:31:54,698 --> 00:31:55,714 But she did say, 701 00:31:55,816 --> 00:31:57,566 "I can project myself 702 00:31:57,651 --> 00:31:59,885 any which way I want." 703 00:32:01,088 --> 00:32:02,921 We see shadows, and, like, 704 00:32:03,056 --> 00:32:05,924 I've referred to them as silhouettes before. 705 00:32:06,009 --> 00:32:07,709 You saw a shadow in the kitchen, right? 706 00:32:07,828 --> 00:32:11,396 Oh, yeah. Right here, as we sit. 707 00:32:11,498 --> 00:32:13,632 It just gave me the heebie-jeebies. 708 00:32:13,717 --> 00:32:15,867 I'm like, "Wow, that was whacked." 709 00:32:17,437 --> 00:32:18,503 You know, Klay, I hate to bring it up... 710 00:32:18,589 --> 00:32:19,871 I know you're in a bad spot right now... 711 00:32:19,957 --> 00:32:21,573 but when you mentioned Death, 712 00:32:21,675 --> 00:32:24,142 you lost how many people in the last year or so? 713 00:32:24,228 --> 00:32:26,995 KLAY: [Sighs] 714 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,663 [Voice breaking] Brother. 715 00:32:28,782 --> 00:32:30,999 Mother. 716 00:32:31,084 --> 00:32:32,117 Aunt. 717 00:32:32,252 --> 00:32:33,618 Uncle. 718 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,419 Cousin. 719 00:32:34,521 --> 00:32:35,303 [Sniffles] 720 00:32:35,422 --> 00:32:36,171 Sorry. 721 00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:37,222 No, don't be. 722 00:32:38,225 --> 00:32:39,224 He's had a lot of loss 723 00:32:39,309 --> 00:32:40,508 in a very short time. 724 00:32:42,996 --> 00:32:44,652 Now, do you have any idea what the woman looked like? 725 00:32:44,752 --> 00:32:46,652 I had a sketch of her done. 726 00:32:54,495 --> 00:32:55,962 Here, take a look at this. 727 00:33:01,035 --> 00:33:03,286 Not what I'd expect her to look like, 728 00:33:03,371 --> 00:33:04,704 but her eyes look like Death. 729 00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:05,771 I don't like her eyes. 730 00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:14,413 Yeah, I do. I didn't want to bring it up. 731 00:33:14,515 --> 00:33:16,015 When I first saw the sketch, 732 00:33:16,117 --> 00:33:17,883 it did remind me of his mom a little bit. 733 00:33:17,969 --> 00:33:18,968 Wow. 734 00:33:22,407 --> 00:33:25,541 This is a picture of his mom. 735 00:33:27,111 --> 00:33:28,894 [Crying] 736 00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:32,164 Wow. Ohh. 737 00:33:45,146 --> 00:33:48,447 I do not think that it was done in a malicious manner. 738 00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:53,052 I think that this is Death acknowledging what's happened 739 00:33:53,154 --> 00:33:57,957 by taking on a familiar... guise. 740 00:33:58,042 --> 00:34:00,259 So you didn't run into his mom. 741 00:34:00,395 --> 00:34:01,427 No. 742 00:34:01,512 --> 00:34:04,897 So this is Death projecting itself as Klay's mom. 743 00:34:05,033 --> 00:34:07,967 [Breathes deeply] Yeah. 744 00:34:13,908 --> 00:34:18,044 I then encountered a male, 745 00:34:18,146 --> 00:34:22,682 and this guy is no good. 746 00:34:25,553 --> 00:34:29,555 He was a very bad person when he was alive. 747 00:34:29,657 --> 00:34:32,508 He's still a very bad person. 748 00:34:32,627 --> 00:34:34,110 My opinion of this guy 749 00:34:34,229 --> 00:34:35,628 is that he's an evil lunatic. 750 00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:43,035 I ran into him initially in the kitchen. 751 00:34:43,138 --> 00:34:44,604 He was chasing a female. 752 00:34:44,706 --> 00:34:48,458 This carried over from when they were alive. 753 00:34:48,576 --> 00:34:52,445 She experienced her death in the heart or chest area. 754 00:34:52,547 --> 00:34:56,032 I was shown knives. 755 00:34:56,151 --> 00:34:58,534 He was very mentally ill when he was alive. 756 00:34:58,653 --> 00:35:00,620 He's still extremely mentally ill. 757 00:35:00,705 --> 00:35:03,156 The only clear thing that I got from him 758 00:35:03,291 --> 00:35:05,575 was that he hates animals 759 00:35:05,660 --> 00:35:08,728 and that women are evil creatures. 760 00:35:10,265 --> 00:35:12,865 And then I did get two numbers... five and four. 761 00:35:12,951 --> 00:35:14,567 They were extremely important... 762 00:35:14,702 --> 00:35:16,402 possibly 54. 763 00:35:16,538 --> 00:35:19,238 Now, a lot of things you just said 764 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:21,040 make me think of a murder that took place 765 00:35:21,126 --> 00:35:23,759 nearly 50 years ago, right here in the neighborhood. 766 00:35:23,845 --> 00:35:25,661 On April 18, 1966, 767 00:35:25,747 --> 00:35:27,547 there was a girl walking home from church. 768 00:35:28,416 --> 00:35:31,884 Her name was Mary Holzem. She was 26 years old. 769 00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:34,020 Now, it's raining. 770 00:35:34,105 --> 00:35:36,852 This guy Eugene Schopf pulls up and says, 771 00:35:36,952 --> 00:35:37,867 "Let me give you a ride." 772 00:35:37,953 --> 00:35:41,554 I have his booking photo right here. 773 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,939 He made an advance on her. 774 00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:43,773 She rejects it. 775 00:35:43,859 --> 00:35:45,108 He flips out, 776 00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:47,260 stabs her several times in the chest and the stomach, 777 00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:50,246 slits her throat from ear to ear... 778 00:35:51,249 --> 00:35:52,448 and then winds up taking her body, 779 00:35:52,551 --> 00:35:53,833 sticking it in the trunk, 780 00:35:53,919 --> 00:35:56,419 and driving her to a remote area about seven miles from here. 781 00:35:56,505 --> 00:35:58,655 I got the death certificate here. 782 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,958 This will give you an idea of the damages on her. 783 00:36:03,595 --> 00:36:07,163 You mention you picked up on a 5 and 4, or maybe a 54, 784 00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:08,932 which kind of blew me away a little bit. 785 00:36:09,067 --> 00:36:10,483 In 1954, when he was in the army, 786 00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:12,334 he asked for psychiatric help. 787 00:36:12,434 --> 00:36:14,818 He told them that he had slashed the throats of animals 788 00:36:14,937 --> 00:36:17,003 and that he thought 789 00:36:17,089 --> 00:36:20,123 he wanted to do that to a woman one day. 790 00:36:20,209 --> 00:36:21,608 Instead of serving prison time, 791 00:36:21,693 --> 00:36:23,894 this sick bastard wound up going to a mental hospital 792 00:36:23,979 --> 00:36:24,811 for 10 years. 793 00:36:24,947 --> 00:36:26,363 He gets released. 794 00:36:26,482 --> 00:36:31,051 2002, he dies in Alabama at the age of 65. 795 00:36:31,153 --> 00:36:32,252 Is it possible this is your guy? 796 00:36:33,972 --> 00:36:37,391 I mean, a lot of things match, for sure, for sure. 797 00:36:37,476 --> 00:36:40,894 Is it possible that he's following Beth by any chance, 798 00:36:40,979 --> 00:36:42,729 since she's having these problems wherever she goes? 799 00:36:42,815 --> 00:36:47,150 I mean, it could be that he's, you know, attracted here 800 00:36:47,236 --> 00:36:49,386 because you have abilities. 801 00:36:53,008 --> 00:36:55,868 If he was alive today, I'd kick him right in his friggin' [bleep] 802 00:36:57,906 --> 00:37:00,009 How is this [bleep] affecting everybody in the house? 803 00:37:00,109 --> 00:37:03,327 I do think that he can physically attack the living. 804 00:37:03,429 --> 00:37:05,229 I think that people could see him. 805 00:37:05,364 --> 00:37:06,730 He's just pure evil, 806 00:37:06,816 --> 00:37:09,200 and he just wants to torment people. 807 00:37:09,285 --> 00:37:10,901 BETH: My oldest daughter, Jeanette, 808 00:37:11,003 --> 00:37:13,487 she'll wake up with brand-new bruises. 809 00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:15,406 She woke up one morning with... 810 00:37:15,508 --> 00:37:18,809 it looked almost like a burn 811 00:37:18,895 --> 00:37:21,345 above her eye. 812 00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:23,747 So, I had a sketch done 813 00:37:23,883 --> 00:37:25,082 of what I saw 814 00:37:25,218 --> 00:37:27,201 a living female experiencing. 815 00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,174 [Breathes deeply] 816 00:37:40,182 --> 00:37:41,665 What a piece of [bleep] 817 00:37:47,006 --> 00:37:48,789 KLAY: Mother Mary of God. 818 00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:51,842 Here, baby, I can brighten it up. 819 00:37:53,296 --> 00:37:54,545 That's crazy. 820 00:38:04,373 --> 00:38:05,489 Well, it ain't funny. 821 00:38:09,295 --> 00:38:12,012 [Crying] 822 00:38:36,304 --> 00:38:37,721 - I'm sorry. - STEVE: No, don't be. 823 00:38:37,821 --> 00:38:39,921 - Mnh-mnh. - [Sniffles] 824 00:38:43,361 --> 00:38:45,654 Amy, what do you think may be going on here? 825 00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,409 What I understand is going on 826 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:53,546 is that this crazy, evil man 827 00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,049 is focused on your daughter. 828 00:38:58,604 --> 00:39:01,338 He is trying to influence her, as well, 829 00:39:01,423 --> 00:39:02,505 her thoughts, 830 00:39:02,641 --> 00:39:04,457 and influencing her 831 00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:07,310 to do possibly bad things to herself. 832 00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:10,447 I'm concerned because... 833 00:39:10,532 --> 00:39:12,682 Death is there 834 00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:16,886 and is watching and waiting. 835 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,824 I mean, I think that his intentions 836 00:39:20,909 --> 00:39:24,044 are the same intentions he had when he was alive. 837 00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,562 Do bodily harm. 838 00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:26,696 Yes. 839 00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:30,365 He likes to torture, you know? 840 00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:34,870 And obviously, he likes to kill people. 841 00:39:38,492 --> 00:39:40,509 Well, Beth, Klay, at least now we know 842 00:39:40,594 --> 00:39:42,995 what's causing all the problems in your family. 843 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,014 And I know you two guys are fighters, 844 00:39:46,116 --> 00:39:48,712 but we need to find out 845 00:39:48,812 --> 00:39:50,111 how to kick this [bleep] out of the house 846 00:39:50,197 --> 00:39:52,847 so you can live here with your kids peacefully, 847 00:39:52,916 --> 00:39:53,998 the way you guys deserve. 848 00:39:55,819 --> 00:39:56,674 I'll turn it over to Amy, 849 00:39:56,774 --> 00:39:58,741 and she'll have an idea of what we can do about this. 850 00:39:59,861 --> 00:40:00,910 What I would like 851 00:40:01,029 --> 00:40:07,967 is to get a really big, bad, scary male medium 852 00:40:08,052 --> 00:40:09,552 to come in 853 00:40:09,671 --> 00:40:13,756 and basically kick his ass out 854 00:40:13,875 --> 00:40:15,975 and to then set up 855 00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:20,329 a very firm barrier around your property 856 00:40:20,448 --> 00:40:22,581 to keep the dead out of here. 857 00:40:22,667 --> 00:40:25,084 Let's just block those suckers out. 858 00:40:25,186 --> 00:40:27,570 So, I think I already know the answer to this question, 859 00:40:27,655 --> 00:40:30,823 but why such a big, burly, tough medium? 860 00:40:30,925 --> 00:40:34,593 This crazy lunatic tries to prey on the weak, 861 00:40:34,729 --> 00:40:37,396 and he is an abuser, 862 00:40:37,482 --> 00:40:41,444 and I think that he's quite afraid of men. 863 00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:44,817 It'll be very intimidating and frightening for him. 864 00:40:44,917 --> 00:40:45,815 Good. 865 00:40:45,951 --> 00:40:47,234 So, now, what happens with Death? 866 00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:49,185 My perception is that, 867 00:40:49,271 --> 00:40:51,905 once that guy's out of here... 868 00:40:53,575 --> 00:40:55,425 Death probably won't be hanging around anymore. 869 00:40:55,561 --> 00:40:57,110 [Chuckles] 870 00:40:57,229 --> 00:40:59,362 That's the first time I've seen you two smile 871 00:40:59,464 --> 00:41:00,830 the entire night. 872 00:41:00,933 --> 00:41:02,082 Hmm. 873 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,366 I mean, this is good news, I think. 874 00:41:03,502 --> 00:41:05,502 I'm hoping. 875 00:41:05,587 --> 00:41:06,603 How you feeling, Beth? 876 00:41:06,705 --> 00:41:08,788 Still a little in shock, 877 00:41:08,874 --> 00:41:10,874 but what Amy found... 878 00:41:10,976 --> 00:41:12,342 hopeful that, 879 00:41:12,444 --> 00:41:15,912 by doing what she's suggesting, 880 00:41:16,014 --> 00:41:17,013 that things will get better. 881 00:41:18,317 --> 00:41:21,184 You guys got a lot of love going on here... 882 00:41:21,286 --> 00:41:22,385 so that helps. 883 00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:24,854 Thank you guys very much. 884 00:41:24,879 --> 00:41:26,879 *** 885 00:41:26,929 --> 00:41:31,479 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 63669

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