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AMY: He's agitated.
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He's not happy that I'm here.
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It gives me crazy vibes
up and down my spine.
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He's making the living sick.
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To think that whatever's here
is actually picking on you
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pisses me off.
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I have horrible nightmares.
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He is...
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an evil lunatic.
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This is bad, bad stuff all around.
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There's a dark presence.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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These things, they're freaking out.
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They're from hell.
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I see dead people.
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They were being hunted.
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I speak to dead people.
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They were setting people on fire,
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burning them alive.
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And they speak to me.
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Her neck got broken.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I hear a gunshot.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Something's not right here.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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It's not safe here.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Are any of them buried on the property?
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They're all buried here.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end...
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I can't do it no more.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Holy [bleep] Look at this.
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Or time to get out.
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It does not have a happy ending.
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Something kills people here.
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- Sync and corrected by TheDelta -
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[Eerie music plays]
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STEVE: I'm in Wausau, Wisconsin,
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about an hour and a half from Green Bay.
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I didn't think long
about taking on this case.
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I received a call from a mother of four
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who just moved into a new townhouse
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and says the entire
family's under attack.
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Now, to make things worse,
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she has a degenerative eye disease
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and now is legally blind.
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Her story really touched my heart,
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and I hope we can bring
this woman some peace.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives...
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[Door creaks]
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I clear the area of
any leading information...
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covering personal items
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and removing family photos
that may influence her findings.
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When I'm done,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: There's a lot going on around here.
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There's a lady...
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she's got a really bad vibe to her.
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She's claiming to be either Death
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or associated with Death.
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Ahh, this is a disaster.
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There's a jerk,
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and he's not happy that I'm here.
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He said something about
trying to stab me in the eye
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with, like, needles.
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[Eerie music plays]
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STEVE: So, Beth, when I
spoke to you on the phone,
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it was obvious that your problems here
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are pretty intense.
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Before we even get to that,
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I want to talk about
your medical condition.
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You're going blind.
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Yes, just been slowly going
blind since I was like five.
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Can you explain to me what
you're seeing right now?
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Do you see me?
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The clothes you're wearing are dark,
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and I can't see detail.
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Okay, and how much
time do you have left?
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- Maybe a couple months.
- Wow.
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I mean, it breaks my heart.
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It's one of the main
reasons I took this case.
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How long have you guys been here?
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We've only been here
for like four months.
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The last two places we
were at got really intense.
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It's happened pretty much
everywhere we've lived.
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- But now you bought this place?
- Yes.
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We can't just up and leave
like we did the last two houses.
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Who exactly lives here
in the house with you?
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It's me, my fianc?,
Klay, our 4 kids...
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- Jeanette, she's 16, Mitchell, he's 14.
- Okay.
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Kayleigh's seven, and
then Klayton is six.
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Okay, so, why don't you take
me through what's going on?
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You can hear stomping,
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you'll hear walking
up and down the stairs,
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see a lot of dark shadows,
and you'll hear voices.
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You feel like you're being watched 24/7,
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everywhere you are.
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And it's started getting physical now.
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And I got to assume this
is frightening the kids.
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We all sleep in here.
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This is where we all come.
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We move the table, and we
make a bed on the floor.
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- All you guys?
- Yeah.
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Nobody wants to be in their room.
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I'm scared to death of my bedroom.
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When you guys are all
sleeping down here,
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does that make things
better for you guys?
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No, not really.
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I've started getting
a little bit drained,
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feeling more tired than usual.
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The kids complain about
stomachaches and headaches.
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As the activity intensifies,
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so does, like, the health issues.
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To think that whatever's here
is actually picking on you
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pisses me off...
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I mean, to the point where
I want to strangle somebody.
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I don't know how you're
as composed as you are.
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I just...
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learned to keep my
composure very well.
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I have to.
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I just don't really have a choice.
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- I have to do it for the kids.
- Right.
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'Cause they're my first concern.
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You okay?
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I know, honey. I'm sorry.
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I know.
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You know, you're allowed to
break down once in awhile.
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I just don't want my kids to
have to rely on everybody else.
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I should be the one
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that is able to take care of them
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and protect them and...
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Yeah, but you can't
do it all by yourself.
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"Dire."
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"Dire."
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"Dire, dire."
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Ah, somebody keeps yelling that.
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Okay, okay.
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Somebody here is affected
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by the energy here,
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which is making them...
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like, disoriented.
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They can't...
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function properly.
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I think that it's making
them feel sick, drained.
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Mm.
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Very... bad.
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STEVE: You know, Beth, looking around,
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you guys obviously haven't
really moved in yet.
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We don't use this room, really.
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'Cause you guys are downstairs.
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Yeah.
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Okay, so, what's happening up here
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that's scaring you guys off?
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You can hear walking around up here
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when everyone's sleeping.
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Well, you got six people
living in the house.
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- Kids sleepwalk or anything like that?
- No.
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How often are you hearing that?
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Daily. Okay.
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Anything else up here?
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Shadows, lots of shadows.
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I'm not trying to be mean,
but you have this eye problem.
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You're seeing shadows
because of your eyes?
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No, I don't think so.
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Everyone else has seen them.
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AMY: Death Lady is...
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happy.
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She seems...
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excited and enthusiastic.
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She wants me to go upstairs.
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[Floorboards creaking]
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Mm.
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She tells me that she has a
lot of business in this area.
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I'm gonna assume that that means
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that a lot of people die
around here very often.
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AMY: Most people imagine Death
looking like the Grim Reaper,
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but it can project
itself any way it wants.
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And for some reason,
it's showing itself to me
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as a short woman with a wide hat.
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Ugh. Geez.
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It's hard to breathe.
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There's a lot of crying...
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hyperventilating.
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- The living, you're talking about?
- Yeah, oh, yeah.
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Like, freaking out.
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This is bad, bad stuff all around.
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STEVE: So, Jeanette,
I was talking to Mom.
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She says she relies on you a lot.
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I'm the oldest. I'm
like her second eyes.
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- How old are you?
- I'm 16.
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That's a lot for a
16-year-old to have to take on.
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Yeah.
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So, what kind of things
are happening to you?
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What's going on?
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I'm seeing a tall black
figure that looks like a human,
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but just black shadow.
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And would you say it
was a male or a female?
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Male.
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Anything face...
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could you see any face,
or it was all black?
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All black.
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You blink, and then it's gone.
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Okay, now, where are you seeing it?
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I always see it upstairs.
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It just happened yesterday.
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I was going to sleep,
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and I got this feeling of being watched.
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And I turned around,
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and there's that black figure
standing in front of my door.
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So, what happens?
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I screamed,
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and I ran straight downstairs.
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Okay, interesting.
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Do you have anything else going on?
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Yes, there are times when
I wake up in the morning,
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and I'll have these bruises.
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They're usually always on my legs.
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In fact, I woke up
with one this morning.
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Well, that could almost
anything, sweetie.
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You might have a deficiency
in a vitamin or something.
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- But you don't know how you've done it?
- Yeah.
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I don't remember hitting
myself on anything.
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Okay, so you're just
waking up like that.
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Yes.
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How do you even sleep at night?
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It's hard to sleep.
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And whenever I do fall asleep,
I have horrible nightmares.
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AMY: [Sighs]
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Mnh-mnh.
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Death Lady a lot in here. [Groans]
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Well, she does come through
the door in the closet.
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A creepy guy comes
in here, too...
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the one who threatened me outside.
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Do you have any idea
if anybody's seen him?
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He's pretty [bleep] strong,
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so I would assume it's a possibility.
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There is a girl...
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a teenager, getting choked.
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I think maybe he's the
one who's choking her.
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And he's influencing this girl,
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making bad thoughts in her head
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to do things to herself
that are not good.
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Death cannot intervene.
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It can only watch, wait.
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Why is he doing this?
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Because he is an evil lunatic.
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I understand that you guys
only lived here a few months
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and some things have been going on.
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Okay. So, Kayleigh, how old are you?
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- Seven.
- Seven.
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- And, Klayton, how old are you, buddy?
- Six.
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Why don't you, Kayleigh,
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tell me one thing that's happened
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that you can remember?
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Upstairs in my bedroom,
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someone was looking through the window.
263
00:11:39,362 --> 00:11:41,162
I think it was a man.
264
00:11:41,264 --> 00:11:42,746
Do you know if he was a man like me?
265
00:11:42,832 --> 00:11:44,198
Was he an older man, white man?
266
00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,700
He was all black.
267
00:11:46,803 --> 00:11:47,685
How about you, buddy?
268
00:11:47,770 --> 00:11:49,003
Did you ever see anything like that?
269
00:11:49,088 --> 00:11:53,607
I know I saw that down
here in the window.
270
00:11:53,709 --> 00:11:54,742
Which window?
271
00:11:54,877 --> 00:11:55,626
In here.
272
00:11:55,745 --> 00:11:57,278
In the kitchen here?
273
00:11:57,380 --> 00:11:58,729
Can you tell me what he looked like?
274
00:11:58,815 --> 00:12:00,147
Black in color.
275
00:12:00,233 --> 00:12:02,249
Okay, did he frighten you?
276
00:12:02,385 --> 00:12:03,284
He did.
277
00:12:03,386 --> 00:12:05,586
- So, anything else happen to you?
- Mm...
278
00:12:07,089 --> 00:12:09,023
I remember when I was asleep,
279
00:12:09,125 --> 00:12:11,158
and then I was getting poked.
280
00:12:11,294 --> 00:12:12,793
Show me how you got poked.
281
00:12:12,895 --> 00:12:14,028
Let me feel it.
282
00:12:14,130 --> 00:12:14,962
Like that?
283
00:12:16,114 --> 00:12:17,447
Okay, did it wake you up?
284
00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,900
You guys like living here?
285
00:12:20,819 --> 00:12:22,919
- Mnh-mnh.
- Not that much.
286
00:12:23,005 --> 00:12:27,707
We only sleep downstairs
'cause we're scared a lot.
287
00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:31,344
AMY: Oh, God.
288
00:12:31,446 --> 00:12:32,412
MATTHEW: You all right?
289
00:12:32,514 --> 00:12:34,814
I think I might have to leave soon.
290
00:12:34,917 --> 00:12:36,049
What's going on?
291
00:12:36,151 --> 00:12:37,584
The guy...
292
00:12:37,686 --> 00:12:39,319
What is he doing to you?
293
00:12:39,421 --> 00:12:42,856
He keeps, like, touching me and...
294
00:12:42,958 --> 00:12:44,189
making me feel sick.
295
00:12:46,137 --> 00:12:48,271
Is this something he
does to the living, also?
296
00:12:48,373 --> 00:12:51,240
I think that's possible.
297
00:12:51,343 --> 00:12:52,976
Yeah.
298
00:13:01,411 --> 00:13:03,719
I was talking to Beth
about what's going on,
299
00:13:03,819 --> 00:13:05,318
and I tell you, she breaks my heart.
300
00:13:05,420 --> 00:13:07,721
- Strong woman, though.
- Very, very.
301
00:13:07,806 --> 00:13:09,990
You got to be worried
about her, I would think.
302
00:13:12,394 --> 00:13:14,227
[Voice breaking] I worry about everyone.
303
00:13:14,363 --> 00:13:15,996
I mean, I look at
her, and I want to cry.
304
00:13:18,166 --> 00:13:20,600
Okay. You know, we
bought it, and we want...
305
00:13:21,803 --> 00:13:22,969
I want this to be our home.
306
00:13:23,055 --> 00:13:26,840
Like, this is our final
resting spot for Beth 'cause...
307
00:13:26,925 --> 00:13:29,843
or I say it's gonna be gone.
308
00:13:29,928 --> 00:13:33,413
I mean, I'm worried more
about somebody getting hurt.
309
00:13:33,498 --> 00:13:34,514
Right.
310
00:13:34,616 --> 00:13:37,400
It gives me crazy vibes
up and down my spine.
311
00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:39,869
What about you? Have
you experienced anything?
312
00:13:39,955 --> 00:13:40,904
Yeah.
313
00:13:41,023 --> 00:13:43,056
Sitting down, just
chilling, watching TV,
314
00:13:43,158 --> 00:13:45,025
and I'm just sitting in my chair,
315
00:13:45,127 --> 00:13:47,761
and something just came right past me.
316
00:13:47,846 --> 00:13:49,646
You know, it was tall...
317
00:13:49,765 --> 00:13:52,299
well, probably at least six foot...
318
00:13:52,401 --> 00:13:55,535
kind of, like,
dark-in-the-middle figure
319
00:13:55,637 --> 00:13:58,838
with a light glow around it.
320
00:13:58,941 --> 00:14:00,607
So I got up out of my chair,
321
00:14:00,709 --> 00:14:03,276
and I walked in the
kitchen, and nobody there.
322
00:14:03,378 --> 00:14:04,978
I went into the garage.
323
00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,580
And I looked, and nothing.
324
00:14:06,682 --> 00:14:07,914
That was whacked.
325
00:14:08,016 --> 00:14:10,333
It was shortly after my brother died.
326
00:14:10,419 --> 00:14:13,219
And my mother passed,
and then my brother died.
327
00:14:13,322 --> 00:14:15,689
I lost like seven,
eight, nine family members
328
00:14:15,774 --> 00:14:17,524
in like a matter of two years.
329
00:14:19,261 --> 00:14:20,794
I asked the good Lord...
330
00:14:23,632 --> 00:14:25,966
try to stay strong.
331
00:14:26,051 --> 00:14:27,384
When you saw the shadow,
332
00:14:27,469 --> 00:14:30,403
you thought maybe it was
somebody from the family.
333
00:14:34,009 --> 00:14:36,176
AMY: [Whimpering]
334
00:14:37,913 --> 00:14:39,479
The energy down here
335
00:14:39,581 --> 00:14:42,165
is almost like you can grab it.
336
00:14:42,250 --> 00:14:44,250
It's so thick.
337
00:14:44,386 --> 00:14:48,421
The creepy guy from upstairs
likes it down here, too.
338
00:14:48,523 --> 00:14:50,175
And he's being bad.
339
00:14:50,275 --> 00:14:53,643
He's influencing living people here.
340
00:14:54,596 --> 00:14:55,878
He's really good
341
00:14:56,014 --> 00:14:59,148
at making physical connections
342
00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:00,316
with living people.
343
00:15:00,418 --> 00:15:02,516
Yeah, he's not doing good stuff.
344
00:15:02,616 --> 00:15:04,516
He's making the living sick.
345
00:15:04,585 --> 00:15:06,518
He's hurting them.
346
00:15:07,855 --> 00:15:09,855
Mm. Interesting.
347
00:15:09,957 --> 00:15:10,856
He's...
348
00:15:10,958 --> 00:15:13,392
He's very strong.
349
00:15:13,494 --> 00:15:15,060
[Chuckles nervously]
350
00:15:15,145 --> 00:15:18,346
Very, actually... very, very
[bleep] very [bleep] strong.
351
00:15:20,467 --> 00:15:23,969
You got a problem with people
getting physically touched here,
352
00:15:24,071 --> 00:15:26,605
you know, and keeping
you guys up at night.
353
00:15:26,707 --> 00:15:28,673
You know, it's not good.
354
00:15:28,776 --> 00:15:30,475
There's definitely something.
355
00:15:30,561 --> 00:15:32,344
I'd really like to stay.
356
00:15:32,446 --> 00:15:35,247
I love her to death,
and I'm here for her.
357
00:15:35,349 --> 00:15:38,250
I worry more about them than myself,
358
00:15:38,335 --> 00:15:40,635
'cause they're the ones
that are suffering more.
359
00:15:43,791 --> 00:15:45,588
You know, that's what I'm here for.
360
00:15:45,688 --> 00:15:46,854
We'll do the best we can.
361
00:15:46,990 --> 00:15:47,972
Appreciate it.
362
00:15:48,091 --> 00:15:49,790
Ah, no worries.
363
00:15:51,361 --> 00:15:52,827
You're so welcome.
364
00:15:53,763 --> 00:15:54,795
You'll be all right, trust me.
365
00:16:11,664 --> 00:16:14,369
I started making some calls
and found something surprising.
366
00:16:15,234 --> 00:16:16,275
Beth and Klay's property
367
00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:17,815
used to be part of a large factory.
368
00:16:17,915 --> 00:16:19,831
Apparently, they used to
make fly swatters there.
369
00:16:20,717 --> 00:16:22,167
I'm heading over to
meet with a local author
370
00:16:22,269 --> 00:16:23,451
who said there was nothing funny
371
00:16:23,537 --> 00:16:25,791
about what happened to
the owner of that business.
372
00:16:30,377 --> 00:16:31,743
STEVE: So, Shawn, you
mentioned on the phone
373
00:16:31,845 --> 00:16:34,312
that factory sitting
on my client's property
374
00:16:34,414 --> 00:16:35,814
at one time made fly swatters.
375
00:16:35,899 --> 00:16:37,148
- Is that right?
- Correct.
376
00:16:37,234 --> 00:16:38,199
What's the story with that?
377
00:16:38,285 --> 00:16:40,252
Well, Arthur Hurd and George Wilson
378
00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,737
purchased your client's
property around 1908,
379
00:16:42,856 --> 00:16:44,856
and by 1910, they had
a factory built there.
380
00:16:44,958 --> 00:16:47,709
I have a map here that kind
of shows where the factory was.
381
00:16:47,794 --> 00:16:52,030
It sat right where your
client's house is right now.
382
00:16:52,115 --> 00:16:55,884
This is actually what
the factory looked like.
383
00:16:56,003 --> 00:16:57,420
You said things went bad for these guys.
384
00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,653
What happened?
385
00:16:58,755 --> 00:17:01,956
By 1911, Wilson left the company
386
00:17:02,058 --> 00:17:05,042
and left Mr. Hurd by himself
to try to run the place.
387
00:17:05,128 --> 00:17:07,328
All right, so, how's it
go for Hurd at this point?
388
00:17:07,430 --> 00:17:08,796
Well, it was a struggle for him.
389
00:17:08,898 --> 00:17:11,132
He didn't have the expertise
that his partner had,
390
00:17:11,267 --> 00:17:13,034
but he continued to work forward,
391
00:17:13,136 --> 00:17:15,202
and he put his heart
and soul into running it.
392
00:17:15,304 --> 00:17:17,838
And I think it became
pretty stressful on him,
393
00:17:17,940 --> 00:17:20,207
and February 3rd of 1925,
394
00:17:20,343 --> 00:17:21,409
he actually suffered a heart attack
395
00:17:21,511 --> 00:17:22,443
at the site.
396
00:17:22,545 --> 00:17:23,481
In the factory?
397
00:17:23,581 --> 00:17:24,497
Correct.
398
00:17:24,582 --> 00:17:26,165
Here's actually his death certificate.
399
00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,787
And he was pretty influential
in the town because,
400
00:17:31,889 --> 00:17:33,139
right on the front page,
401
00:17:33,257 --> 00:17:34,890
they put in his obituary that day.
402
00:17:37,495 --> 00:17:40,196
AMY: I saw a very different
structure than this one.
403
00:17:40,298 --> 00:17:44,383
The structure seemed large.
404
00:17:44,469 --> 00:17:48,337
I think it had bricks.
405
00:17:50,575 --> 00:17:52,408
There's a guy...
406
00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:54,510
he's agitated.
407
00:17:56,481 --> 00:17:58,380
He's very high-strung,
408
00:17:58,483 --> 00:18:00,883
and this is his territory,
409
00:18:00,985 --> 00:18:04,153
and he had to, I guess,
fight really hard for it.
410
00:18:04,255 --> 00:18:08,123
This guy is not dealing
with his death very well.
411
00:18:09,710 --> 00:18:11,060
I'm gonna say he died from, like,
412
00:18:11,162 --> 00:18:12,962
a stroke or a heart attack.
413
00:18:15,733 --> 00:18:17,133
After finding out that a factory
414
00:18:17,235 --> 00:18:19,135
used to sit right on
my client's property
415
00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:22,105
and that the owner basically
worked himself to death,
416
00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:23,139
I hit the local library
417
00:18:23,241 --> 00:18:24,373
to see if there was anything else
418
00:18:24,459 --> 00:18:25,708
that could help my investigation.
419
00:18:25,810 --> 00:18:27,577
[Tape rewinds]
420
00:18:27,679 --> 00:18:30,379
Turns out, a massive
insane asylum and poor farm
421
00:18:30,482 --> 00:18:32,014
operated for nearly 80 years
422
00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:34,584
right next to Beth
and Klayton's property.
423
00:18:36,087 --> 00:18:37,953
You know, from doing
these investigations,
424
00:18:38,053 --> 00:18:40,103
I know a lot of these poor
farms and mental asylums
425
00:18:40,189 --> 00:18:41,555
mistreated their patients.
426
00:18:41,657 --> 00:18:44,308
So I reached out to a
local newspaper reporter.
427
00:18:44,426 --> 00:18:47,411
He said this place was filled
with neglect, abuse, and death.
428
00:18:54,603 --> 00:18:57,371
So, Keith, the asylum seemed
like it was really close
429
00:18:57,506 --> 00:18:58,672
to my client's original property line.
430
00:18:58,757 --> 00:19:00,307
- Is that right?
- That's right.
431
00:19:00,409 --> 00:19:02,593
And as a matter of fact, you can see it.
432
00:19:02,678 --> 00:19:04,845
It's right over there across the river.
433
00:19:04,947 --> 00:19:06,930
Were you able to find out
when this place was built?
434
00:19:07,016 --> 00:19:09,066
Yeah, it was built in 1893.
435
00:19:10,336 --> 00:19:12,870
It was in operation for about 78 years.
436
00:19:12,988 --> 00:19:14,288
How many people did this house?
437
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:16,623
It was big. It would've
housed up to about 300 people.
438
00:19:17,610 --> 00:19:19,893
What kind of people would
actually be treated at this place?
439
00:19:19,995 --> 00:19:21,762
There'd been schizophrenics.
440
00:19:21,847 --> 00:19:24,014
There would've been manic-depressives.
441
00:19:24,099 --> 00:19:25,799
There would've been the elderly.
442
00:19:25,901 --> 00:19:27,818
Now, you mentioned on the phone
how bad the conditions were.
443
00:19:27,937 --> 00:19:28,869
What are we talking about?
444
00:19:28,971 --> 00:19:30,671
In the 1950s, the superintendents
445
00:19:30,773 --> 00:19:33,841
came under investigation
by the Marathon County D.A.
446
00:19:33,943 --> 00:19:37,084
for overcrowded conditions,
limited staffing.
447
00:19:37,184 --> 00:19:39,784
There were hundreds of people there.
448
00:19:39,870 --> 00:19:42,838
They only had four bathtubs.
449
00:19:42,906 --> 00:19:44,272
So, when I first contacted you,
450
00:19:44,374 --> 00:19:46,575
I asked you to find out if
there was any unusual deaths
451
00:19:46,677 --> 00:19:47,626
that might help my case.
452
00:19:47,744 --> 00:19:49,161
Were you able to come up with anything?
453
00:19:49,279 --> 00:19:51,229
Yeah, I found five interesting deaths.
454
00:19:51,348 --> 00:19:53,548
The first one was in 1895,
455
00:19:53,634 --> 00:19:56,017
when an inmate hung himself.
456
00:19:58,105 --> 00:20:00,856
In 1899, three men were asphyxiated
457
00:20:00,941 --> 00:20:02,824
while working in a silo on the farm.
458
00:20:04,161 --> 00:20:06,962
In 1903, a 37-year-old inmate
459
00:20:07,064 --> 00:20:09,347
was stabbed to death by
an 85-year-old inmate.
460
00:20:09,466 --> 00:20:10,532
What was it over?
461
00:20:10,634 --> 00:20:12,717
I guess it was over living quarters.
462
00:20:12,803 --> 00:20:13,919
Couple more.
463
00:20:14,004 --> 00:20:17,339
In 1920, a man named
John Kyough told nurses
464
00:20:17,424 --> 00:20:19,908
that he was gonna go
fishing down on the river.
465
00:20:20,010 --> 00:20:21,443
He had a wooden leg.
466
00:20:21,528 --> 00:20:24,679
He removed it, tied
an anchor to his waist,
467
00:20:24,765 --> 00:20:26,298
threw himself in the river.
468
00:20:28,324 --> 00:20:30,173
You said there was
five. What was the fifth?
469
00:20:30,276 --> 00:20:32,826
Yeah, there was one more inmate suicide.
470
00:20:32,945 --> 00:20:34,728
This one happened in 1933.
471
00:20:34,847 --> 00:20:37,948
He laid down on a stick of dynamite
472
00:20:38,033 --> 00:20:39,783
and blew himself up.
473
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,085
That's a lot of death.
474
00:20:42,187 --> 00:20:44,037
These are the ones we know about.
475
00:20:44,123 --> 00:20:47,024
There certainly would've had
to been a lot more deaths.
476
00:20:47,126 --> 00:20:50,577
Nurses reported that they didn't
even bother keeping records,
477
00:20:50,663 --> 00:20:52,579
'cause once people were brought in,
478
00:20:52,665 --> 00:20:55,766
they just expected them to be
there forever till they died.
479
00:20:56,969 --> 00:20:58,001
Okay.
480
00:20:59,205 --> 00:21:01,472
AMY: I hear a male, and he said,
481
00:21:01,574 --> 00:21:04,410
"We are lost and need help out of here."
482
00:21:05,700 --> 00:21:06,344
And he said,
483
00:21:06,444 --> 00:21:09,679
"We can't see to find our way out."
484
00:21:09,814 --> 00:21:12,481
There's about 11 of them.
485
00:21:12,583 --> 00:21:15,151
They can't even see each other.
486
00:21:15,253 --> 00:21:17,253
I asked how did he die?
487
00:21:17,355 --> 00:21:19,455
He said, "A death camp."
488
00:21:43,246 --> 00:21:45,146
[Bird cries]
489
00:21:46,845 --> 00:21:49,357
One other thing got my
attention during my research.
490
00:21:49,457 --> 00:21:52,444
There was a brutal murder about
1,200 feet from Beth's house.
491
00:21:52,544 --> 00:21:55,045
The victim was a young woman
heading home from church.
492
00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:56,680
Now, look, it may be a long shot,
493
00:21:56,765 --> 00:21:58,899
but I'm heading over to
meet with a Wausau detective
494
00:21:59,018 --> 00:22:00,951
who said it was one of
the most notorious crimes
495
00:22:01,036 --> 00:22:01,952
in the city's history.
496
00:22:09,177 --> 00:22:10,776
So, Greg, I came across this homicide
497
00:22:10,878 --> 00:22:12,978
that happened pretty close
to my client's property.
498
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,313
What do you know about it?
499
00:22:14,415 --> 00:22:18,083
Murder happened on April 18, 1966.
500
00:22:18,169 --> 00:22:21,437
This is our victim...
Mary Holzem, 26 years old.
501
00:22:21,522 --> 00:22:22,438
This is the guy
that killed her...
502
00:22:22,523 --> 00:22:25,191
Eugene Schopf, 29 years old.
503
00:22:25,293 --> 00:22:26,609
All right, so, how's
the homicide go down?
504
00:22:26,694 --> 00:22:28,928
Mary, she was walking home from church.
505
00:22:29,030 --> 00:22:31,697
Eugene Schopf here, he
picks her up in a vehicle.
506
00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:33,999
They go down to a bar, and
they have a couple of drinks,
507
00:22:34,101 --> 00:22:35,668
and then they leave
together in a vehicle.
508
00:22:35,770 --> 00:22:37,536
And that's the last anybody sees of her.
509
00:22:37,638 --> 00:22:39,805
So, what happens after that?
510
00:22:39,907 --> 00:22:43,843
He was somewhat infatuated
with her and came on to her.
511
00:22:43,978 --> 00:22:46,445
She resisted, and he
stabbed her three times.
512
00:22:46,531 --> 00:22:47,813
She screamed...
513
00:22:47,899 --> 00:22:49,148
and then he cut her throat.
514
00:22:49,283 --> 00:22:50,783
Oof.
515
00:22:50,885 --> 00:22:52,774
This is a copy of Mary
Holzem's death certificate.
516
00:22:54,174 --> 00:22:56,241
"Male subject apparently seduced victim
517
00:22:56,343 --> 00:22:58,176
to a secluded spot for his act."
518
00:22:59,437 --> 00:23:01,771
So, Greg, the actual
location of the homicide,
519
00:23:01,873 --> 00:23:04,040
how far is that from
my client's location?
520
00:23:04,142 --> 00:23:05,708
That was about a quarter of a mile.
521
00:23:05,793 --> 00:23:08,711
Okay, so, now, from the article,
I understand he was caught.
522
00:23:08,796 --> 00:23:10,388
How'd they wind up getting him?
523
00:23:10,415 --> 00:23:14,083
Police received a call
at about 10:45 that night
524
00:23:14,169 --> 00:23:17,053
that there was screaming
coming from an area
525
00:23:17,155 --> 00:23:18,755
just two blocks down from that bar.
526
00:23:18,857 --> 00:23:20,723
Police officers go over to the bar,
527
00:23:20,809 --> 00:23:21,808
talk to the bartender.
528
00:23:21,927 --> 00:23:24,928
Bartender tells them,
"Yep, Mary was in here,
529
00:23:25,030 --> 00:23:27,480
and she was with a guy by
the name of Gene Schopf.
530
00:23:27,566 --> 00:23:28,765
So they knew the guy.
531
00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:30,300
They knew the guy.
532
00:23:30,402 --> 00:23:31,868
They go down to his house.
533
00:23:31,970 --> 00:23:33,052
They look at the vehicle,
534
00:23:33,171 --> 00:23:34,304
they find blood in the trunk,
535
00:23:34,389 --> 00:23:35,972
they find bloody
clothes in the back seat.
536
00:23:36,057 --> 00:23:38,039
Gene confesses to killing her.
537
00:23:38,235 --> 00:23:41,169
That's his booking photo from the 19th,
538
00:23:41,271 --> 00:23:43,538
- the day after she was killed.
- Okay.
539
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:44,906
He was charged with
first-degree murder.
540
00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:46,574
Wow.
541
00:23:50,514 --> 00:23:52,380
[Groaning]
542
00:23:55,152 --> 00:23:56,851
Ah, there's a man and a woman,
543
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,054
and the man is the creepy guy.
544
00:23:59,139 --> 00:24:02,223
They're both dead, and...
545
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,960
It's bad. It's so bad. It's so bad.
546
00:24:05,062 --> 00:24:08,263
They knew each other
when they were alive.
547
00:24:08,365 --> 00:24:10,665
And she's always...
548
00:24:10,751 --> 00:24:13,902
trying to get away from him...
549
00:24:14,004 --> 00:24:15,437
still.
550
00:24:17,441 --> 00:24:20,375
Mm. Mnh-mnh.
551
00:24:20,477 --> 00:24:22,744
Her heart's racing,
552
00:24:22,846 --> 00:24:26,514
'cause she's got to get away.
553
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,516
And she's...
554
00:24:28,618 --> 00:24:31,019
very stressed-out.
555
00:24:31,104 --> 00:24:34,689
I think that the woman died here.
556
00:24:39,363 --> 00:24:40,796
I saw knives...
557
00:24:41,749 --> 00:24:44,500
somebody messing with knives.
558
00:24:46,704 --> 00:24:47,903
[Sighs]
559
00:24:48,005 --> 00:24:49,371
Okay, so, what happens at the trial?
560
00:24:49,473 --> 00:24:52,147
He goes to court and pleads "not
guilty by reason of insanity."
561
00:24:52,247 --> 00:24:53,646
It's a pretty brutal crime.
562
00:24:53,748 --> 00:24:56,015
Is there any indication
he's done this before?
563
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,651
It came out that, in 1954,
564
00:24:58,753 --> 00:25:01,854
he had asked military doctors for help
565
00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:03,489
because he had thoughts
566
00:25:03,591 --> 00:25:06,425
of slicing the throats of animals
567
00:25:06,561 --> 00:25:08,327
and he thought he might hurt a woman.
568
00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:10,163
- He asked for help.
- He did.
569
00:25:10,298 --> 00:25:12,331
Obviously, he didn't get it,
570
00:25:12,467 --> 00:25:15,168
'cause this guy's got the
markings of a serial killer...
571
00:25:15,253 --> 00:25:16,469
especially with the animals.
572
00:25:16,554 --> 00:25:17,587
Yeah.
573
00:25:17,672 --> 00:25:19,639
In July of 1966,
574
00:25:19,724 --> 00:25:22,058
he was found "not guilty
by reason of insanity."
575
00:25:22,177 --> 00:25:25,111
He was committed to a
state mental institution
576
00:25:25,213 --> 00:25:26,546
in Waupun, Wisconsin.
577
00:25:26,648 --> 00:25:28,915
In the early '70s, he was released.
578
00:25:29,017 --> 00:25:30,349
That son of a [bleep]
579
00:25:30,451 --> 00:25:32,652
Can't believe they let this guy out.
580
00:25:32,754 --> 00:25:34,320
What happened after he was released?
581
00:25:34,422 --> 00:25:37,707
Last information we have
is he moves to Alabama
582
00:25:37,825 --> 00:25:41,627
and dies in 2002 at age 65.
583
00:25:44,399 --> 00:25:46,132
This creepy guy,
584
00:25:46,234 --> 00:25:49,635
he didn't die a long time ago.
585
00:25:52,473 --> 00:25:53,673
I don't think he's that old,
586
00:25:53,775 --> 00:25:56,976
maybe in his early 50s,
587
00:25:57,078 --> 00:26:00,846
and he does not like animals.
588
00:26:00,932 --> 00:26:04,116
And children are pests.
589
00:26:04,202 --> 00:26:07,720
Woman are pests... bad,
evil, evil creatures.
590
00:26:07,822 --> 00:26:09,522
They're evil creatures.
591
00:26:09,624 --> 00:26:12,508
He is very mentally [Chuckles] ill.
592
00:26:12,594 --> 00:26:13,392
Mm.
593
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:17,997
I see 5 and a 4, 54,
594
00:26:18,082 --> 00:26:19,832
so...
595
00:26:19,968 --> 00:26:21,250
something like that.
596
00:26:21,369 --> 00:26:23,469
He is evil,
597
00:26:23,605 --> 00:26:25,521
and he wants
598
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,208
nothing good for anybody.
599
00:26:35,316 --> 00:26:37,550
AMY: I saw several dead
people during my walk,
600
00:26:37,652 --> 00:26:39,885
but two stood out the most...
601
00:26:39,988 --> 00:26:42,338
first, the creepy man
choking a living teenager
602
00:26:42,457 --> 00:26:43,389
in the house.
603
00:26:43,491 --> 00:26:47,026
He has, like, a huge rope...
604
00:26:48,129 --> 00:26:52,465
and he's strangling the kid with it.
605
00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:56,135
Over on the side, in
front of this big closet,
606
00:26:56,237 --> 00:27:01,057
is this woman who is really Death,
607
00:27:01,142 --> 00:27:05,111
and she's watching this
situation happening.
608
00:27:05,196 --> 00:27:08,581
Next, I describe how
Death showed herself to me.
609
00:27:08,683 --> 00:27:11,851
She had a... hat on,
610
00:27:11,953 --> 00:27:13,419
and it was black.
611
00:27:13,504 --> 00:27:16,906
She had very large eyes,
612
00:27:16,991 --> 00:27:20,893
and she was wearing,
like, a fur-collar thing,
613
00:27:20,979 --> 00:27:22,094
and it was black.
614
00:27:22,196 --> 00:27:24,230
[Pencil scratching]
615
00:27:27,435 --> 00:27:28,901
Is this who you saw?
616
00:27:29,971 --> 00:27:31,103
Yes, that's who I saw.
617
00:27:50,813 --> 00:27:53,586
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
618
00:27:53,686 --> 00:27:55,752
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
619
00:27:55,855 --> 00:27:57,855
and our clients for the first time.
620
00:27:57,957 --> 00:28:00,924
So, Amy, when I decided that
we should take on this case,
621
00:28:01,010 --> 00:28:02,226
I knew it was gonna be emotional,
622
00:28:02,311 --> 00:28:04,194
but I didn't realize how emotional.
623
00:28:04,296 --> 00:28:05,429
This is Beth.
624
00:28:06,265 --> 00:28:08,832
She's one of the strongest
women I've ever met.
625
00:28:08,934 --> 00:28:12,402
And this is her very
supportive fianc?, Klay.
626
00:28:12,505 --> 00:28:15,639
Now, on top of dealing with a
really bad paranormal problem
627
00:28:15,741 --> 00:28:16,874
that they have here,
628
00:28:16,959 --> 00:28:18,692
Beth has a disease that's
gonna leave her blind
629
00:28:18,777 --> 00:28:21,128
within the next three to four months.
630
00:28:22,665 --> 00:28:23,630
She called us in
631
00:28:23,749 --> 00:28:25,532
because she's desperate to make sure
632
00:28:25,618 --> 00:28:28,685
that their four kids are okay
633
00:28:28,771 --> 00:28:31,355
before she goes completely blind.
634
00:28:33,592 --> 00:28:35,325
So, now that Amy knows a little
bit about your background,
635
00:28:35,461 --> 00:28:39,963
I'm gonna ask her to
describe her walk for us.
636
00:28:40,049 --> 00:28:42,165
AMY: Honestly, I was not looking forward
637
00:28:42,301 --> 00:28:44,051
to walking through the door,
638
00:28:44,169 --> 00:28:47,254
but I did, and as
soon as I came in here,
639
00:28:47,373 --> 00:28:50,173
I was hearing somebody yelling,
640
00:28:50,259 --> 00:28:53,377
"Dire, dire, dire!"
641
00:28:53,462 --> 00:28:55,746
Somebody here
642
00:28:55,831 --> 00:29:00,267
is affected by the energy here,
643
00:29:00,352 --> 00:29:01,818
which is making them...
644
00:29:01,904 --> 00:29:04,388
like, disoriented.
645
00:29:07,109 --> 00:29:08,108
Then... [Sighs]
646
00:29:08,193 --> 00:29:10,260
I went upstairs,
647
00:29:10,346 --> 00:29:12,796
and I was so sick up there.
648
00:29:12,898 --> 00:29:16,767
I felt so drained and horrible.
649
00:29:18,304 --> 00:29:20,270
BETH: I get a lot of headaches.
650
00:29:20,372 --> 00:29:21,305
I'm just tired.
651
00:29:21,407 --> 00:29:23,240
I don't want to do anything.
652
00:29:23,342 --> 00:29:26,510
I just have, like, absolutely no
653
00:29:26,612 --> 00:29:28,178
"get up and go."
654
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,947
Klay, don't the kids
have stomachaches a lot?
655
00:29:30,082 --> 00:29:32,849
Oh, yeah, they get stomach, headache,
656
00:29:32,985 --> 00:29:35,485
and you can tell they're not themselves.
657
00:29:35,621 --> 00:29:37,537
Now, one thing you
should know about Beth
658
00:29:37,656 --> 00:29:40,424
is that she felt this
way in her last place.
659
00:29:40,509 --> 00:29:42,492
Yeah, the last place...
660
00:29:42,578 --> 00:29:43,994
actually, the last two places.
661
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:46,863
It started out little things,
662
00:29:46,949 --> 00:29:49,316
and then it just intensifies
663
00:29:49,435 --> 00:29:52,102
to the point where it gets...
664
00:29:52,187 --> 00:29:53,620
like, physical.
665
00:29:56,375 --> 00:29:58,759
[Dramatic music plays]
666
00:29:59,762 --> 00:30:01,645
[Breathes deeply]
667
00:30:08,454 --> 00:30:11,155
I just wish there was
something I could do to stop it.
668
00:30:11,291 --> 00:30:13,824
[Breathes deeply]
669
00:30:15,828 --> 00:30:16,794
You okay, honey?
670
00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:35,658
- Sorry.
- No.
671
00:30:35,758 --> 00:30:37,873
I don't give a [bleep]
about the cameras, okay?
672
00:30:37,973 --> 00:30:40,224
If you need to take
a break, you tell me.
673
00:30:40,309 --> 00:30:43,609
I just have a hard time
talking about those places.
674
00:30:43,709 --> 00:30:45,725
It's okay. That's why we're here.
675
00:30:45,827 --> 00:30:48,128
In those houses, there
was lots of shadows,
676
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:50,647
and I would see them
reach out for the kids.
677
00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:53,433
I just feel like I'm
going nuts or something.
678
00:30:53,535 --> 00:30:55,952
It's crazy.
679
00:30:56,071 --> 00:30:57,904
And had that kind of stuff
680
00:30:58,006 --> 00:31:00,006
happened throughout your life?
681
00:31:00,108 --> 00:31:01,174
Yeah.
682
00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:03,276
I've had issues as
long as I can remember.
683
00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:11,918
There are two main entities
684
00:31:12,020 --> 00:31:14,721
that are in this house,
685
00:31:14,806 --> 00:31:15,755
and they're the ones
686
00:31:15,891 --> 00:31:18,758
that I'm most concerned about.
687
00:31:18,894 --> 00:31:21,061
The first was the female.
688
00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:24,297
She explained to me that she is Death.
689
00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:28,768
The other interesting thing
690
00:31:28,904 --> 00:31:31,171
is that she interacts
directly with the living.
691
00:31:32,441 --> 00:31:35,275
She was very excited
for me to go upstairs
692
00:31:35,377 --> 00:31:36,530
and see what was going on up there.
693
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:39,530
She was actually waiting
at the top of the staircase,
694
00:31:39,616 --> 00:31:40,815
like, smiling.
695
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,901
And I think she causes
696
00:31:43,987 --> 00:31:46,237
a lot of the living stress.
697
00:31:47,307 --> 00:31:50,458
People may see her as a silhouette.
698
00:31:50,544 --> 00:31:52,677
She wears a hat,
699
00:31:52,779 --> 00:31:54,613
and people may see that.
700
00:31:54,698 --> 00:31:55,714
But she did say,
701
00:31:55,816 --> 00:31:57,566
"I can project myself
702
00:31:57,651 --> 00:31:59,885
any which way I want."
703
00:32:01,088 --> 00:32:02,921
We see shadows, and, like,
704
00:32:03,056 --> 00:32:05,924
I've referred to them
as silhouettes before.
705
00:32:06,009 --> 00:32:07,709
You saw a shadow in the kitchen, right?
706
00:32:07,828 --> 00:32:11,396
Oh, yeah. Right here, as we sit.
707
00:32:11,498 --> 00:32:13,632
It just gave me the heebie-jeebies.
708
00:32:13,717 --> 00:32:15,867
I'm like, "Wow, that was whacked."
709
00:32:17,437 --> 00:32:18,503
You know, Klay, I
hate to bring it up...
710
00:32:18,589 --> 00:32:19,871
I know you're in a
bad spot right now...
711
00:32:19,957 --> 00:32:21,573
but when you mentioned Death,
712
00:32:21,675 --> 00:32:24,142
you lost how many people
in the last year or so?
713
00:32:24,228 --> 00:32:26,995
KLAY: [Sighs]
714
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,663
[Voice breaking] Brother.
715
00:32:28,782 --> 00:32:30,999
Mother.
716
00:32:31,084 --> 00:32:32,117
Aunt.
717
00:32:32,252 --> 00:32:33,618
Uncle.
718
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,419
Cousin.
719
00:32:34,521 --> 00:32:35,303
[Sniffles]
720
00:32:35,422 --> 00:32:36,171
Sorry.
721
00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:37,222
No, don't be.
722
00:32:38,225 --> 00:32:39,224
He's had a lot of loss
723
00:32:39,309 --> 00:32:40,508
in a very short time.
724
00:32:42,996 --> 00:32:44,652
Now, do you have any idea
what the woman looked like?
725
00:32:44,752 --> 00:32:46,652
I had a sketch of her done.
726
00:32:54,495 --> 00:32:55,962
Here, take a look at this.
727
00:33:01,035 --> 00:33:03,286
Not what I'd expect her to look like,
728
00:33:03,371 --> 00:33:04,704
but her eyes look like Death.
729
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:05,771
I don't like her eyes.
730
00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:14,413
Yeah, I do. I didn't
want to bring it up.
731
00:33:14,515 --> 00:33:16,015
When I first saw the sketch,
732
00:33:16,117 --> 00:33:17,883
it did remind me of
his mom a little bit.
733
00:33:17,969 --> 00:33:18,968
Wow.
734
00:33:22,407 --> 00:33:25,541
This is a picture of his mom.
735
00:33:27,111 --> 00:33:28,894
[Crying]
736
00:33:29,030 --> 00:33:32,164
Wow. Ohh.
737
00:33:45,146 --> 00:33:48,447
I do not think that it was
done in a malicious manner.
738
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:53,052
I think that this is Death
acknowledging what's happened
739
00:33:53,154 --> 00:33:57,957
by taking on a familiar... guise.
740
00:33:58,042 --> 00:34:00,259
So you didn't run into his mom.
741
00:34:00,395 --> 00:34:01,427
No.
742
00:34:01,512 --> 00:34:04,897
So this is Death projecting
itself as Klay's mom.
743
00:34:05,033 --> 00:34:07,967
[Breathes deeply] Yeah.
744
00:34:13,908 --> 00:34:18,044
I then encountered a male,
745
00:34:18,146 --> 00:34:22,682
and this guy is no good.
746
00:34:25,553 --> 00:34:29,555
He was a very bad
person when he was alive.
747
00:34:29,657 --> 00:34:32,508
He's still a very bad person.
748
00:34:32,627 --> 00:34:34,110
My opinion of this guy
749
00:34:34,229 --> 00:34:35,628
is that he's an evil lunatic.
750
00:34:39,067 --> 00:34:43,035
I ran into him initially in the kitchen.
751
00:34:43,138 --> 00:34:44,604
He was chasing a female.
752
00:34:44,706 --> 00:34:48,458
This carried over from
when they were alive.
753
00:34:48,576 --> 00:34:52,445
She experienced her death
in the heart or chest area.
754
00:34:52,547 --> 00:34:56,032
I was shown knives.
755
00:34:56,151 --> 00:34:58,534
He was very mentally
ill when he was alive.
756
00:34:58,653 --> 00:35:00,620
He's still extremely mentally ill.
757
00:35:00,705 --> 00:35:03,156
The only clear thing that I got from him
758
00:35:03,291 --> 00:35:05,575
was that he hates animals
759
00:35:05,660 --> 00:35:08,728
and that women are evil creatures.
760
00:35:10,265 --> 00:35:12,865
And then I did get two
numbers... five and four.
761
00:35:12,951 --> 00:35:14,567
They were extremely
important...
762
00:35:14,702 --> 00:35:16,402
possibly 54.
763
00:35:16,538 --> 00:35:19,238
Now, a lot of things you just said
764
00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:21,040
make me think of a
murder that took place
765
00:35:21,126 --> 00:35:23,759
nearly 50 years ago, right
here in the neighborhood.
766
00:35:23,845 --> 00:35:25,661
On April 18, 1966,
767
00:35:25,747 --> 00:35:27,547
there was a girl
walking home from church.
768
00:35:28,416 --> 00:35:31,884
Her name was Mary Holzem.
She was 26 years old.
769
00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:34,020
Now, it's raining.
770
00:35:34,105 --> 00:35:36,852
This guy Eugene Schopf
pulls up and says,
771
00:35:36,952 --> 00:35:37,867
"Let me give you a ride."
772
00:35:37,953 --> 00:35:41,554
I have his booking photo right here.
773
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,939
He made an advance on her.
774
00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:43,773
She rejects it.
775
00:35:43,859 --> 00:35:45,108
He flips out,
776
00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:47,260
stabs her several times in
the chest and the stomach,
777
00:35:47,379 --> 00:35:50,246
slits her throat from ear to ear...
778
00:35:51,249 --> 00:35:52,448
and then winds up taking her body,
779
00:35:52,551 --> 00:35:53,833
sticking it in the trunk,
780
00:35:53,919 --> 00:35:56,419
and driving her to a remote
area about seven miles from here.
781
00:35:56,505 --> 00:35:58,655
I got the death certificate here.
782
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:01,958
This will give you an
idea of the damages on her.
783
00:36:03,595 --> 00:36:07,163
You mention you picked up
on a 5 and 4, or maybe a 54,
784
00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:08,932
which kind of blew me away a little bit.
785
00:36:09,067 --> 00:36:10,483
In 1954, when he was in the army,
786
00:36:10,602 --> 00:36:12,334
he asked for psychiatric help.
787
00:36:12,434 --> 00:36:14,818
He told them that he had
slashed the throats of animals
788
00:36:14,937 --> 00:36:17,003
and that he thought
789
00:36:17,089 --> 00:36:20,123
he wanted to do that to a woman one day.
790
00:36:20,209 --> 00:36:21,608
Instead of serving prison time,
791
00:36:21,693 --> 00:36:23,894
this sick bastard wound up
going to a mental hospital
792
00:36:23,979 --> 00:36:24,811
for 10 years.
793
00:36:24,947 --> 00:36:26,363
He gets released.
794
00:36:26,482 --> 00:36:31,051
2002, he dies in
Alabama at the age of 65.
795
00:36:31,153 --> 00:36:32,252
Is it possible this is your guy?
796
00:36:33,972 --> 00:36:37,391
I mean, a lot of things
match, for sure, for sure.
797
00:36:37,476 --> 00:36:40,894
Is it possible that he's
following Beth by any chance,
798
00:36:40,979 --> 00:36:42,729
since she's having these
problems wherever she goes?
799
00:36:42,815 --> 00:36:47,150
I mean, it could be that
he's, you know, attracted here
800
00:36:47,236 --> 00:36:49,386
because you have abilities.
801
00:36:53,008 --> 00:36:55,868
If he was alive today, I'd kick
him right in his friggin' [bleep]
802
00:36:57,906 --> 00:37:00,009
How is this [bleep] affecting
everybody in the house?
803
00:37:00,109 --> 00:37:03,327
I do think that he can
physically attack the living.
804
00:37:03,429 --> 00:37:05,229
I think that people could see him.
805
00:37:05,364 --> 00:37:06,730
He's just pure evil,
806
00:37:06,816 --> 00:37:09,200
and he just wants to torment people.
807
00:37:09,285 --> 00:37:10,901
BETH: My oldest daughter, Jeanette,
808
00:37:11,003 --> 00:37:13,487
she'll wake up with brand-new bruises.
809
00:37:13,606 --> 00:37:15,406
She woke up one morning with...
810
00:37:15,508 --> 00:37:18,809
it looked almost like a burn
811
00:37:18,895 --> 00:37:21,345
above her eye.
812
00:37:21,430 --> 00:37:23,747
So, I had a sketch done
813
00:37:23,883 --> 00:37:25,082
of what I saw
814
00:37:25,218 --> 00:37:27,201
a living female experiencing.
815
00:37:32,542 --> 00:37:34,174
[Breathes deeply]
816
00:37:40,182 --> 00:37:41,665
What a piece of [bleep]
817
00:37:47,006 --> 00:37:48,789
KLAY: Mother Mary of God.
818
00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:51,842
Here, baby, I can brighten it up.
819
00:37:53,296 --> 00:37:54,545
That's crazy.
820
00:38:04,373 --> 00:38:05,489
Well, it ain't funny.
821
00:38:09,295 --> 00:38:12,012
[Crying]
822
00:38:36,304 --> 00:38:37,721
- I'm sorry.
- STEVE: No, don't be.
823
00:38:37,821 --> 00:38:39,921
- Mnh-mnh.
- [Sniffles]
824
00:38:43,361 --> 00:38:45,654
Amy, what do you think
may be going on here?
825
00:38:46,892 --> 00:38:49,409
What I understand is going on
826
00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:53,546
is that this crazy, evil man
827
00:38:53,665 --> 00:38:56,049
is focused on your daughter.
828
00:38:58,604 --> 00:39:01,338
He is trying to influence her, as well,
829
00:39:01,423 --> 00:39:02,505
her thoughts,
830
00:39:02,641 --> 00:39:04,457
and influencing her
831
00:39:04,543 --> 00:39:07,310
to do possibly bad things to herself.
832
00:39:08,847 --> 00:39:10,447
I'm concerned because...
833
00:39:10,532 --> 00:39:12,682
Death is there
834
00:39:12,784 --> 00:39:16,886
and is watching and waiting.
835
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:20,824
I mean, I think that his intentions
836
00:39:20,909 --> 00:39:24,044
are the same intentions
he had when he was alive.
837
00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,562
Do bodily harm.
838
00:39:25,664 --> 00:39:26,696
Yes.
839
00:39:28,499 --> 00:39:30,365
He likes to torture, you know?
840
00:39:31,869 --> 00:39:34,870
And obviously, he likes to kill people.
841
00:39:38,492 --> 00:39:40,509
Well, Beth, Klay, at least now we know
842
00:39:40,594 --> 00:39:42,995
what's causing all the
problems in your family.
843
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,014
And I know you two guys are fighters,
844
00:39:46,116 --> 00:39:48,712
but we need to find out
845
00:39:48,812 --> 00:39:50,111
how to kick this
[bleep] out of the house
846
00:39:50,197 --> 00:39:52,847
so you can live here
with your kids peacefully,
847
00:39:52,916 --> 00:39:53,998
the way you guys deserve.
848
00:39:55,819 --> 00:39:56,674
I'll turn it over to Amy,
849
00:39:56,774 --> 00:39:58,741
and she'll have an idea of
what we can do about this.
850
00:39:59,861 --> 00:40:00,910
What I would like
851
00:40:01,029 --> 00:40:07,967
is to get a really big,
bad, scary male medium
852
00:40:08,052 --> 00:40:09,552
to come in
853
00:40:09,671 --> 00:40:13,756
and basically kick his ass out
854
00:40:13,875 --> 00:40:15,975
and to then set up
855
00:40:16,110 --> 00:40:20,329
a very firm barrier around your property
856
00:40:20,448 --> 00:40:22,581
to keep the dead out of here.
857
00:40:22,667 --> 00:40:25,084
Let's just block those suckers out.
858
00:40:25,186 --> 00:40:27,570
So, I think I already know
the answer to this question,
859
00:40:27,655 --> 00:40:30,823
but why such a big, burly, tough medium?
860
00:40:30,925 --> 00:40:34,593
This crazy lunatic tries
to prey on the weak,
861
00:40:34,729 --> 00:40:37,396
and he is an abuser,
862
00:40:37,482 --> 00:40:41,444
and I think that he's
quite afraid of men.
863
00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:44,817
It'll be very intimidating
and frightening for him.
864
00:40:44,917 --> 00:40:45,815
Good.
865
00:40:45,951 --> 00:40:47,234
So, now, what happens with Death?
866
00:40:47,319 --> 00:40:49,185
My perception is that,
867
00:40:49,271 --> 00:40:51,905
once that guy's out of here...
868
00:40:53,575 --> 00:40:55,425
Death probably won't
be hanging around anymore.
869
00:40:55,561 --> 00:40:57,110
[Chuckles]
870
00:40:57,229 --> 00:40:59,362
That's the first time
I've seen you two smile
871
00:40:59,464 --> 00:41:00,830
the entire night.
872
00:41:00,933 --> 00:41:02,082
Hmm.
873
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,366
I mean, this is good news, I think.
874
00:41:03,502 --> 00:41:05,502
I'm hoping.
875
00:41:05,587 --> 00:41:06,603
How you feeling, Beth?
876
00:41:06,705 --> 00:41:08,788
Still a little in shock,
877
00:41:08,874 --> 00:41:10,874
but what Amy found...
878
00:41:10,976 --> 00:41:12,342
hopeful that,
879
00:41:12,444 --> 00:41:15,912
by doing what she's suggesting,
880
00:41:16,014 --> 00:41:17,013
that things will get better.
881
00:41:18,317 --> 00:41:21,184
You guys got a lot of
love going on here...
882
00:41:21,286 --> 00:41:22,385
so that helps.
883
00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:24,854
Thank you guys very much.
884
00:41:24,879 --> 00:41:26,879
***
885
00:41:26,929 --> 00:41:31,479
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