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Yeah, they definitely
feel pain with this guy.
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Come on.
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It came at me so fast,
and then, like, swoosh.
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There's times when she
really loses her [bleep]
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Someone probably shot him.
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Shot him twice. Killed him.
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Oh [bleep]. Somebody dies.
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I tell my kids everything's fine.
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But I'm not sure if I'm
telling them the truth.
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They want to kill someone.
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They want to kill him.
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Something bad's going to happen.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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There's panic.
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And it's almost like a butchering.
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I see dead people.
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They all died horribly.
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I speak to dead people.
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Get out of here.
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And they speak to me.
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Vicious.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It doesn't matter where you are.
I'll find you.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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This guy's a real piece of work.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I feel like I live in a house of Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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This is not good.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end...
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I want my life back.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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- Is he trying to kill her?
- [Sobs]
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Or time to get out.
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Oh, my God.
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This is going to kill us.
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STEVE: I'm out here in Albuquerque,
New Mexico.
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I got called in by a woman
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who sounded pretty damn
scared on the phone.
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She says she's about to
take over a restaurant
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that's been in her family for 40 years.
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But the activity is so bad
she doesn't know if it's safe
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for her and her children to be there.
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She says, if Amy and I can't help her out,
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she may have to close the place up.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
I need to clear the restaurant
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of anything that might
influence her findings.
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Artwork, photographs
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and religious icons need
to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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Okay.
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Before I got here, I saw this location.
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And there was, like, nothing,
you know, like, no buildings.
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It was all, like, just land and black.
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This thing, uh, came up to me.
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And it pointed to the ground.
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And then, I saw water trickling.
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And then, the water all of a
sudden was flowing with blood.
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STEVE: So, Carla, I'm glad I'm here
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'cause, when we spoke on the phone,
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you sounded scared.
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CARLA: Right.
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Okay. So give me a rundown
of what's going on.
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We've got people hearing noises,
objects moving,
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electrical problems, apparitions.
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And people are being touched.
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This business has been in
my family for 40 years.
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I'm taking over.
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My dad, this is his life's work.
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And it's part of the family.
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It's my whole life.
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But I also want to protect my children.
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I tell my kids that there's
nothing to be scared of,
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everything's fine.
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I'm not sure if I'm telling them the truth.
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Okay. So, now, who exactly works here?
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There's all of us. That's my mom. She's 82.
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That's my son. He's 16.
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That's me. That's my dad. He's 84.
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And that's my daughter. She's 13.
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My daughter particularly
has increased my concern.
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She's so genuinely frightened.
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Now, have you lost any, uh, staff
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- because of what's going on here?
- I have.
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And I've had to change
people's schedules also who...
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They'll, like, refuse to close
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or be alone in the restaurant at night.
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I mean, I don't like to be in
here alone at night either.
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I mean, how are you managing,
never mind everybody else?
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What about you?
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There's just days I don't want to come in.
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Sometimes, I get really anxious,
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particularly when I'm at work.
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Now, is that something you
experience away from here?
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No.
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What are you hoping we can do for you?
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I want you to tell me that I can stay here
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and I can honor my dad's life's work
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and I can be the good
daughter and the good mom.
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There's a lot going on.
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I mean, a lot of residual...
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There's a lot of men, pandemonium.
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They're drinking and partying.
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They're getting crazy.
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Do you think it would
affect the living here?
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Oh, I think that they
would feel, uh, dizzy.
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It's crowded. You feel this,
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feeling claustrophobic, you know?
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Very unsettled.
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Uh, your stomach kind of does flip-flops
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just because of all of this crazy,
uh, energy.
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So, why'd you bring me behind the bar here?
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This is where I feel something
breathing on my neck.
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What part of your neck do you feel it on?
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- Is it always on the same part?
- Mmhmm.
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- That side.
- Okay.
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So it's enough where it's...
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it's gonna go through your hair.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Really?
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- Right.
- Okay.
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Now, how often does this happen to you?
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At least once a month.
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And when it's happening,
it seems like it's forever.
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Huh. Not like you got...
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No vents.
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Any other physical things happen here?
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So my back bothers me more
here than anyplace else.
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Now, what makes you think
this is paranormal?
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I can have had several
days of no back pain at all
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and get here and have my back start to...
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to feel badly.
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What if Amy tells you,
"It's not safe for you to stay here.
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You really need to go"?
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I feel very committed
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and responsible to keeping
the business running.
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But I wouldn't want my
kids to ever be harmed.
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Right. And so you're kind of
stuck right in the middle.
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Always.
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Somebody got stabbed to death.
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You know, this is, like, his area.
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Oh, he doesn't feel very, very good.
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It's a lot of pain.
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I think that people would
have physical pain
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associated with being around him,
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so, like, sudden lower-back issues,
acute stomach pain.
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Like, you'd be like, "Oh,"
you know, like, [bleep]
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He acts out when he's depressed. Ow.
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[Bleep]
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Yeah, they definitely feel
[bleep] pain with this guy.
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Come on.
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So, Edie, I'm really glad I
got a chance to talk to you
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'cause your mom's most concerned about you.
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- Yeah.
- Are you scared to be here?
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Whenever I'm here, I can never just relax.
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I'm always, "Was that just a shadow?"
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One night, close to midnight almost,
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I was just sitting in the dining
room playing a video game.
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And then, all of a sudden,
I heard, like, a woman cry,
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like a woman crying out in agony and pain.
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Any idea how old the woman that was moaning
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might have been?
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Maybe kind of middle-aged.
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Was anybody else in the building?
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My mom was in the kitchen
closing up the back door.
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Okay. Do you know if this door was locked?
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Yeah.
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That's strange.
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Now, is anything else going on?
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Well,
the scariest thing that has happened to me
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is I actually got trapped in the bathroom.
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- This bathroom here.
- Right there.
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I go in there. I use the bathroom.
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I wash my hands. I dry my hands.
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Then, I try to open up the door.
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And it was almost as if somebody
was pushing the door shut
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as I was trying to open it.
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You... you don't think
it was somebody playing
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- a game on you, do you?
- No, not at all.
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- How'd you get out of there?
- I kicked the door.
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So, ever since then,
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you've been pretty frightened
to death of this place.
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Yeah. I refuse to go to the bathroom alone
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at night anymore.
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Okay. All right.
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So, sweetie, it sounds
like you and your mom
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have a pretty close relationship.
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Oh, yeah. We're really close.
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I'm curious how you feel about
her being here alone at night.
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I don't know if something
would come actually at her.
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I just don't want anything
to happen to her.
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I feel anxious back here.
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I just hear, like, a... a male.
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He's like, "Ha ha, you stupid [bleep]"
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Like, "That'll teach ya."
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He seems like a stocky fella.
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Kind of making me sick.
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And he's got some guy,
drops him on the floor.
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And he's, like, kicking him.
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This guy killed this dude.
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Lots of anxiety, too,
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that they would feel back here,
like, heart racing.
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Something is with the doors.
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He's trying to keep the door closed
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'cause he's always like,
"Close the [bleep] door."
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He's a problem.
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Obviously, he was prone to violence.
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He killed someone.
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He could be physically
violent towards the living.
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STEVE: The reason your mom called us in
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is because of the fact
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that she's worried about
you and your sister.
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It's a family-owned business.
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I mean, grandparents have
had it for over 40 years.
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She eventually wants you guys to take over.
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How do you feel about that?
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The business has been around for 40 years.
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And I'd love to keep it
around for another 40.
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But I don't feel comfortable
running a business
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in a building that's potentially haunted
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with entities that could harm people.
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Okay. Well, let me ask
you a question, then.
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Are you afraid to be here?
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Yes, especially at night.
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That's when I'm most afraid to be here.
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Okay. So, what experiences
have you had, Charley?
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So I've had two experiences.
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Throughout that door, into the Santos Room,
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I saw a cowboy sitting at
the last seat of the bar.
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And he's in a brown trench coat.
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And he has, like, a cowboy hat on.
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He's drinking a beer.
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And I thought that was really strange
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because it was, like, 8:00 in the morning.
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The restaurant wasn't open yet.
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And when I got through to the other side
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and I looked through
the bar and the gallery,
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there was nobody there.
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Okay. So, it just disappeared?
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Yes, it just disappeared.
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You said there were two things.
What was the second one?
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The second one actually
happened right behind us.
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I was going through that doorway.
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And as I passed through the hallway,
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I looked through the
double doors to the window.
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And I saw a woman floating there.
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But she had no arms and no legs.
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Her hair was down.
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How long would you say her hair was?
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Uh, it was probably about,
uh, 2... 2 feet long,
256
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kind of down to a little
bit past her shoulders.
257
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Did you think you were seeing things?
258
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Basically, I had, like, an anxiety attack.
259
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And I was crying and
traumatized, basically.
260
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AMY: There's, like, this little woman here,
probably in her 40s.
261
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She's chubby, short.
262
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She's a busybody.
263
00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:44,515
She seems really, um,
new to this whole thing,
264
00:11:44,628 --> 00:11:46,995
like, being dead.
265
00:11:47,137 --> 00:11:51,673
She's trying to interact
with this male and female.
266
00:11:51,772 --> 00:11:53,989
But she says,
"They're not hearing, you know,
267
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they're not hearing me."
268
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She's not seeing a reaction.
269
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Mm-hmm.
270
00:11:57,945 --> 00:12:00,746
Or, at least, the reaction she wants.
271
00:12:07,179 --> 00:12:08,945
So, Shirley, I was talking
to your daughter.
272
00:12:09,053 --> 00:12:11,403
And, uh,
she was explaining of some of the problems
273
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that are going on in the restaurant.
274
00:12:13,369 --> 00:12:14,518
Honestly, I'm... I worry about it.
275
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And I'm concerned about it.
276
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Particularly, I think Edie, she is scared.
277
00:12:18,070 --> 00:12:19,252
I don't want her to be afraid.
278
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And I don't want my daughter to be afraid,
you know?
279
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Right.
280
00:12:22,737 --> 00:12:25,605
My partner, when she does these cases,
281
00:12:25,715 --> 00:12:27,799
and then, at the end,
sometimes, she'll tell them,
282
00:12:27,890 --> 00:12:30,023
"Listen,
you need to get the hell out of here
283
00:12:30,115 --> 00:12:31,264
or close your business."
284
00:12:31,370 --> 00:12:34,555
How would you feel about
something like that?
285
00:12:34,649 --> 00:12:35,781
Would not want to do it.
286
00:12:35,887 --> 00:12:38,354
This is the legacy for my family,
287
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what my husband and I have
built all these many years.
288
00:12:41,207 --> 00:12:44,008
And, uh, I want it for my
daughter and my grandchildren.
289
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I would not want to go.
290
00:12:45,690 --> 00:12:46,939
In the 40 years you've been here,
291
00:12:47,029 --> 00:12:48,879
have you had any experiences?
292
00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:51,136
Well, actually, the first 32 years,
293
00:12:51,228 --> 00:12:53,445
I really didn't have any
personal experiences.
294
00:12:53,536 --> 00:12:55,954
But about eight years ago, I did, yes.
295
00:12:56,046 --> 00:12:57,128
Okay. So, what happened?
296
00:12:57,267 --> 00:12:59,734
Late one night, I opened up that door.
297
00:12:59,843 --> 00:13:02,010
The minute I stepped into this room,
298
00:13:02,101 --> 00:13:04,685
a ghost lady came... I was standing there.
299
00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:06,395
She came from this side of the room...
300
00:13:06,502 --> 00:13:07,334
Okay.
301
00:13:07,472 --> 00:13:09,055
At me so fast, and then,
302
00:13:09,178 --> 00:13:11,762
like, swoosh, right passing through me.
303
00:13:11,888 --> 00:13:14,722
I turned totally, totally cold,
totally, totally cold.
304
00:13:14,817 --> 00:13:16,300
Can you describe her at all?
305
00:13:16,389 --> 00:13:17,938
- I would say small.
- Small.
306
00:13:18,028 --> 00:13:19,544
- Small, yes.
- Okay.
307
00:13:19,651 --> 00:13:21,751
Was that the only experience
that you actually had here?
308
00:13:21,843 --> 00:13:23,092
Uh, no.
309
00:13:23,198 --> 00:13:25,782
We actually had something
strange happening in here
310
00:13:25,908 --> 00:13:27,174
with the lights.
311
00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,279
Maybe two or three of them
312
00:13:28,384 --> 00:13:29,800
would just be flickering, flickering.
313
00:13:29,889 --> 00:13:32,590
So I had two different electricians come.
314
00:13:32,734 --> 00:13:34,767
So, what did the
electricians wind up saying?
315
00:13:34,908 --> 00:13:37,876
Neither company that ever
came out ever found anything.
316
00:13:40,663 --> 00:13:44,465
That little woman, she is very frustrated.
317
00:13:44,578 --> 00:13:48,313
She's very angry with them
when they're not talking to her
318
00:13:48,426 --> 00:13:50,325
or listening to her or whatever, you know?
319
00:13:50,434 --> 00:13:51,566
She gets real worked up.
320
00:13:51,654 --> 00:13:55,506
And then, I see her hair,
uh, get all, like, crazy.
321
00:13:55,603 --> 00:13:57,486
Uh, so she's, like,
whipping around in a circle
322
00:13:57,593 --> 00:14:00,694
and freaking out.
323
00:14:00,805 --> 00:14:03,005
I think, that at those times,
324
00:14:03,114 --> 00:14:06,850
maybe the living might have
some electrical issues.
325
00:14:08,602 --> 00:14:11,169
And the living might notice that.
326
00:14:15,644 --> 00:14:19,463
I think this is where the
little lady is mostly.
327
00:14:19,559 --> 00:14:22,310
She's, like, bopping around, you know,
328
00:14:22,403 --> 00:14:25,238
and, like, just in everybody's [bleep]
329
00:14:25,331 --> 00:14:29,099
And I do see her getting in a rage.
330
00:14:30,986 --> 00:14:33,286
Ooh, she's not happy.
331
00:14:33,394 --> 00:14:35,227
She's kind of having a mental breakdown.
332
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,083
STEVE: I didn't think it
would be hard to find history
333
00:14:50,204 --> 00:14:51,454
on Carla's restaurant.
334
00:14:51,543 --> 00:14:54,711
I mean, after all,
it sits right in the middle of Old Town.
335
00:14:54,805 --> 00:14:56,722
Turns out, it was easier than I thought.
336
00:14:56,813 --> 00:14:58,396
The first historian I reached out to
337
00:14:58,536 --> 00:15:00,369
said that one of the early
owners of the property
338
00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:03,912
suffered through years of debt,
regret and betrayal.
339
00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:10,308
So, Julia, you mentioned on the phone
340
00:15:10,397 --> 00:15:11,680
one of the first owners of the property
341
00:15:11,769 --> 00:15:13,853
I'm investigating had a
lot of heartache there.
342
00:15:13,944 --> 00:15:15,227
What'd you mean by that?
343
00:15:15,333 --> 00:15:18,651
Carlos and Felicitas Vigil
were married in 1910...
344
00:15:18,779 --> 00:15:19,711
Okay.
345
00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:23,117
And moved into the property in 1920.
346
00:15:23,229 --> 00:15:24,896
She was pregnant with her third child
347
00:15:25,036 --> 00:15:26,919
when they moved into the property.
348
00:15:27,010 --> 00:15:29,293
About five months after they moved in,
349
00:15:29,386 --> 00:15:31,352
their youngest, a little boy named Willie,
350
00:15:31,426 --> 00:15:33,827
he passed away.
351
00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:35,135
Okay. What was the cause?
352
00:15:35,224 --> 00:15:36,924
Gastritis.
353
00:15:37,014 --> 00:15:38,581
How'd it go for them after that?
354
00:15:38,687 --> 00:15:40,053
Ernesto was born.
355
00:15:40,192 --> 00:15:41,725
But he did pass away as well.
356
00:15:41,866 --> 00:15:44,199
He was 1 year, 1 month old.
357
00:15:44,342 --> 00:15:48,177
He had an infection that was
caused from bottle feeding.
358
00:15:49,361 --> 00:15:53,396
And he passed away in 1922.
359
00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:56,360
However, Felicitas becomes pregnant again.
360
00:15:56,453 --> 00:15:58,253
Her name was Frances.
361
00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,178
But Frances was only 2 months old
362
00:16:01,271 --> 00:16:02,437
when she passed away.
363
00:16:02,577 --> 00:16:03,659
Geez.
364
00:16:03,781 --> 00:16:08,850
She died in April of 1924
of a bronchial pneumonia.
365
00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:10,968
I'm afraid to even ask.
Did they have any more kids?
366
00:16:11,058 --> 00:16:12,007
They did.
367
00:16:12,095 --> 00:16:15,163
This time, the baby was stillborn.
368
00:16:15,258 --> 00:16:17,424
Felicitas was so devastated
369
00:16:17,566 --> 00:16:20,317
she couldn't even bring
herself to name the child.
370
00:16:22,317 --> 00:16:24,801
I mean, just losing one child
alone has got to destroy you.
371
00:16:24,927 --> 00:16:26,160
Destroy you.
372
00:16:26,248 --> 00:16:28,248
She lost four.
373
00:16:28,373 --> 00:16:30,123
Four in a row.
374
00:16:30,213 --> 00:16:34,366
Not very long after the stillborn, um,
375
00:16:34,496 --> 00:16:36,747
Carlos actually became ill.
376
00:16:36,872 --> 00:16:38,922
And what was his problem?
377
00:16:39,013 --> 00:16:39,978
Syphilis.
378
00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:42,284
Turns out, Carlos was unfaithful.
379
00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:43,175
Ah, so now I know what you meant
380
00:16:43,296 --> 00:16:45,162
when you said about betrayal.
381
00:16:45,254 --> 00:16:47,404
She actually had him committed
382
00:16:47,545 --> 00:16:50,413
to the New Mexico Hospital for the Insane
383
00:16:50,523 --> 00:16:52,957
until he passes away in 1927.
384
00:16:53,049 --> 00:16:54,899
And when he died,
385
00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,890
she did not claim his body.
386
00:16:56,981 --> 00:16:58,547
Does she stay? Does she
decide to move away?
387
00:16:58,637 --> 00:16:59,853
No, she stays.
388
00:16:59,942 --> 00:17:02,559
She does, uh, start to become quite ill.
389
00:17:02,702 --> 00:17:04,903
And eventually, she does have a stroke.
390
00:17:05,011 --> 00:17:06,710
And she died in January of 1959.
391
00:17:06,801 --> 00:17:09,785
Okay. So now, she dies in '59.
What happens to the property?
392
00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,164
She left the property to
her surviving children.
393
00:17:13,259 --> 00:17:14,925
Uh, they kept it for a few years.
394
00:17:15,049 --> 00:17:16,949
But then, they sold the property.
395
00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:20,424
15 years after Felicitas died,
396
00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:23,604
the building became the High
Noon Restaurant and Saloon.
397
00:17:26,491 --> 00:17:30,827
This angry woman,
she died fairly recently, I think,
398
00:17:30,942 --> 00:17:32,475
maybe, like, a sudden heart attack
399
00:17:32,581 --> 00:17:34,881
or something along those lines.
400
00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:36,857
Do you know how old she was?
401
00:17:36,964 --> 00:17:41,984
Uh, she looks, mm, maybe 50s or 60s.
402
00:17:42,116 --> 00:17:45,117
And she's, like,
being very obsessed with her family.
403
00:17:45,228 --> 00:17:46,149
Yeah, she's feeling...
404
00:17:46,252 --> 00:17:49,637
to do with her family in this building,
405
00:17:49,764 --> 00:17:52,098
maybe leaving it to them or something.
406
00:17:52,207 --> 00:17:54,941
Like, I am seeing a For Sale sign.
407
00:17:55,051 --> 00:17:57,719
Mm, she's not happy.
408
00:18:00,884 --> 00:18:02,234
STEVE: I've already uncovered five people
409
00:18:02,340 --> 00:18:06,125
who died on my client's property,
four of them children.
410
00:18:06,221 --> 00:18:07,520
But I need to see if there's anything else
411
00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:10,661
that can help my case.
412
00:18:10,804 --> 00:18:12,004
Searching through old records,
413
00:18:12,093 --> 00:18:15,211
I find a 16-year-old
who was fatally stabbed.
414
00:18:15,322 --> 00:18:17,005
Turns out, he lived right across the street
415
00:18:17,129 --> 00:18:20,297
from Carla's restaurant.
416
00:18:20,441 --> 00:18:21,690
I need to find out a lot more
417
00:18:21,813 --> 00:18:24,097
about this brutal attack
on the 16-year-old kid.
418
00:18:24,221 --> 00:18:25,888
And when I want to know about a homicide,
419
00:18:26,028 --> 00:18:27,528
I reach out to the cops.
420
00:18:27,618 --> 00:18:29,618
I'm heading over to meet
with a local police officer
421
00:18:29,743 --> 00:18:31,860
who's looking into this case for me.
422
00:18:38,426 --> 00:18:40,342
Well, Officer Tixier,
thanks so much for helping me out
423
00:18:40,433 --> 00:18:41,515
with this case. I appreciate it.
424
00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:43,286
- My pleasure.
- So, can you do me a favor?
425
00:18:43,394 --> 00:18:45,594
Before we get to the murder
of this 16-year-old kid,
426
00:18:45,703 --> 00:18:47,202
what do you know about the family?
427
00:18:47,292 --> 00:18:48,708
Luis Moya moved his family
428
00:18:48,797 --> 00:18:51,348
onto your client's property in 1941.
429
00:18:51,424 --> 00:18:53,857
And then, just a short time,
five years later,
430
00:18:53,966 --> 00:18:55,649
he moves his family off
your client's property
431
00:18:55,740 --> 00:18:57,790
but just directly across the street.
432
00:18:57,915 --> 00:18:59,080
So, they're in the immediate area
433
00:18:59,170 --> 00:19:00,736
when this homicide happens?
434
00:19:00,826 --> 00:19:01,791
- Yes, sir.
- Okay.
435
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,496
So take me through the homicide.
436
00:19:03,603 --> 00:19:06,921
So, uh, Luis Moya has a son, Freddy Moya.
437
00:19:07,015 --> 00:19:08,231
Him and his friend,
438
00:19:08,354 --> 00:19:10,371
they walk down the street
to a New Year's Eve party
439
00:19:10,462 --> 00:19:12,746
that was being held at the armory,
440
00:19:12,837 --> 00:19:14,937
basically to ring in 1951 into '52.
441
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,029
As they walk into the party,
442
00:19:16,117 --> 00:19:17,850
they kind of separate, go their own ways.
443
00:19:17,957 --> 00:19:19,840
And as the night is progressing,
444
00:19:19,964 --> 00:19:22,598
a group of about 10 to 13 individuals
445
00:19:22,692 --> 00:19:25,042
from the Atrisco street
gang come into the party.
446
00:19:25,150 --> 00:19:26,800
And I can see where this is going already.
447
00:19:26,924 --> 00:19:29,157
One of those people was Paul Garcia.
448
00:19:29,266 --> 00:19:29,982
Okay.
449
00:19:30,102 --> 00:19:31,602
Details are sketchy about
450
00:19:31,691 --> 00:19:33,408
what exactly transpired between the two.
451
00:19:33,498 --> 00:19:34,948
But what we do know is that
452
00:19:35,088 --> 00:19:38,022
a lot of witnesses saw a commotion
453
00:19:38,132 --> 00:19:41,100
between Paul Garcia and Freddy Moya.
454
00:19:41,194 --> 00:19:42,577
Okay.
455
00:19:42,683 --> 00:19:45,117
And then, they saw Freddy turn pale.
456
00:19:45,226 --> 00:19:46,108
They take him out of the armory.
457
00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:47,446
And that's when they realized
458
00:19:47,568 --> 00:19:49,668
that he had been stabbed
pretty severely twice,
459
00:19:49,776 --> 00:19:52,310
once in the back and
then once in his chest.
460
00:19:52,403 --> 00:19:55,454
And that chest wound
actually severed his aorta.
461
00:19:55,564 --> 00:19:57,097
- So he bled out.
- Bled out almost immediately.
462
00:19:57,188 --> 00:19:58,037
Okay.
463
00:19:58,141 --> 00:19:59,407
Paul Garcia confessed,
464
00:19:59,496 --> 00:20:01,863
was found guilty and did 15 years for it.
465
00:20:01,989 --> 00:20:03,255
Okay.
466
00:20:03,361 --> 00:20:04,894
What a way to bring in the
new year for a family, huh?
467
00:20:04,983 --> 00:20:07,534
Yes, sir.
468
00:20:07,644 --> 00:20:10,511
AMY: I'm seeing a lot of fighting.
469
00:20:10,621 --> 00:20:15,574
The guy who's got stabbed, he's back here.
470
00:20:19,086 --> 00:20:21,220
Frankie, Frank.
471
00:20:21,328 --> 00:20:23,528
I'm seeing the guy who got stabbed again.
472
00:20:23,637 --> 00:20:28,039
But this time, he's making me
experience his painful death.
473
00:20:28,187 --> 00:20:29,520
Really bad, too.
474
00:20:29,626 --> 00:20:33,427
He got stabbed in the front and the back.
475
00:20:33,524 --> 00:20:34,940
I'm just feeling it.
476
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:39,599
I think he feels betrayed and,
like, got murdered.
477
00:20:58,876 --> 00:21:01,010
STEVE: You know,
another thing stood out in my research.
478
00:21:01,134 --> 00:21:02,734
The local town marshal
479
00:21:02,841 --> 00:21:05,842
was hanged just down the
street from Carla's restaurant.
480
00:21:05,935 --> 00:21:07,218
Now, you don't hear about law enforcement
481
00:21:07,358 --> 00:21:08,940
getting the death penalty very often.
482
00:21:09,031 --> 00:21:10,197
So I called a local author
483
00:21:10,285 --> 00:21:12,602
who said Milton Yarberry was so hated
484
00:21:12,745 --> 00:21:15,695
people lined the streets
to cheer his execution.
485
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:25,252
STEVE: So, Johnny,
this story's pretty interesting to me.
486
00:21:25,342 --> 00:21:26,324
So there was a town marshal
487
00:21:26,430 --> 00:21:28,246
that was actually hanged
right down the block
488
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,803
from my client's property.
489
00:21:29,892 --> 00:21:31,125
Milton Yarberry.
490
00:21:31,247 --> 00:21:33,381
He's born in 1849 in Arkansas,
491
00:21:33,472 --> 00:21:37,090
joins an outlaw gang,
kills a couple men in Arkansas.
492
00:21:37,186 --> 00:21:41,205
And that's gonna send him
fleeing Arkansas into Texas.
493
00:21:41,302 --> 00:21:43,319
Okay. So he's got a couple
murders under his belt already.
494
00:21:43,393 --> 00:21:45,560
By 1879, at least four.
495
00:21:45,652 --> 00:21:46,801
Wow. How does a guy
496
00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:48,973
that's got at least four
bodies under his belt
497
00:21:49,081 --> 00:21:52,399
wind up in Albuquerque and as a marshal?
498
00:21:52,494 --> 00:21:54,744
He arrives in Albuquerque in 1880.
499
00:21:54,836 --> 00:21:57,003
He's traveling with a woman named Sadie
500
00:21:57,111 --> 00:21:59,545
and her 4-year-old daughter.
501
00:21:59,637 --> 00:22:03,989
When he arrives here,
he's gonna befriend Perfecto Armijo,
502
00:22:04,088 --> 00:22:05,671
who is the county sheriff.
503
00:22:05,777 --> 00:22:08,377
Perfecto gets Yarberry the job
504
00:22:08,471 --> 00:22:10,838
as Albuquerque's first town marshal.
505
00:22:10,929 --> 00:22:12,362
He apparently liked the way
506
00:22:12,452 --> 00:22:15,403
Yarberry knew his way around guns.
507
00:22:15,547 --> 00:22:17,146
And this is Yarberry here.
508
00:22:17,253 --> 00:22:18,353
That's Yarberry.
509
00:22:18,491 --> 00:22:19,523
Looks like a tough piece of work.
510
00:22:19,663 --> 00:22:21,112
Yeah, he does.
511
00:22:21,202 --> 00:22:22,801
So, this guy doesn't know
anything about his background?
512
00:22:22,907 --> 00:22:24,874
- No.
- Geez.
513
00:22:24,982 --> 00:22:26,315
So now you got a killer with a badge.
514
00:22:26,454 --> 00:22:27,787
How does this work out for the town?
515
00:22:27,876 --> 00:22:31,712
In 1881, Sadie,
the woman he came to town with,
516
00:22:31,841 --> 00:22:34,942
is apparently seeing another man,
Harry Brown.
517
00:22:35,037 --> 00:22:39,256
So Yarberry comes to talk to Harry Brown.
518
00:22:39,370 --> 00:22:41,086
I'm assuming he probably shot him.
519
00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:43,811
Shot him twice. Killed him.
520
00:22:43,953 --> 00:22:48,189
And Perfecto Armijo has
to arrest his friend.
521
00:22:48,337 --> 00:22:49,253
What happens with Brown?
522
00:22:49,373 --> 00:22:50,523
Well, during the trial,
523
00:22:50,612 --> 00:22:53,847
it's brought out that Brown had a gun.
524
00:22:53,958 --> 00:22:55,991
Yarberry pleads self-defense.
525
00:22:56,082 --> 00:22:57,198
And the jury acquits him.
526
00:22:57,287 --> 00:22:59,303
Within a few weeks,
527
00:22:59,395 --> 00:23:02,246
he's back on the job as the town marshal.
528
00:23:02,339 --> 00:23:05,223
But a few weeks after that shooting,
529
00:23:05,317 --> 00:23:06,449
there's another one.
530
00:23:06,572 --> 00:23:09,473
And that one's gonna get
Yarberry in serious trouble.
531
00:23:09,566 --> 00:23:12,350
He's investigating a shot
that's been heard fired in town.
532
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,327
He sees a man running down the street.
533
00:23:14,417 --> 00:23:15,750
He yells stop.
534
00:23:15,873 --> 00:23:18,407
When the man doesn't stop,
Yarberry shoots him.
535
00:23:18,517 --> 00:23:20,250
Again, the charge is murder.
536
00:23:20,340 --> 00:23:23,425
And this time, it takes the jury 10 minutes
537
00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,903
to find him guilty.
538
00:23:26,045 --> 00:23:30,364
And Milton Yarberry is sentenced to hang.
539
00:23:30,462 --> 00:23:32,595
2,000 people showed up.
540
00:23:32,687 --> 00:23:34,570
They are lining the streets.
541
00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:35,409
They are heckling.
542
00:23:35,547 --> 00:23:37,314
They are booing him.
543
00:23:40,014 --> 00:23:42,114
AMY: I'm hearing a lot of men yelling.
544
00:23:42,239 --> 00:23:45,040
Uh, I think they're angry.
545
00:23:45,150 --> 00:23:48,084
Um...
546
00:23:48,195 --> 00:23:53,031
it seems like there's something
big happening, going down.
547
00:23:53,146 --> 00:23:55,880
And they're, like, on top of buildings.
548
00:23:56,024 --> 00:23:59,809
But they...
but the buildings kind of look different.
549
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:00,804
Somebody did something.
550
00:24:00,909 --> 00:24:02,325
They want to kill him.
551
00:24:02,448 --> 00:24:04,782
They're walking this
man through the streets.
552
00:24:04,891 --> 00:24:06,724
And he did something very bad.
553
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,558
It's like he's on parade or something.
554
00:24:12,653 --> 00:24:14,086
It was a circus.
555
00:24:14,192 --> 00:24:16,392
In fact, I found this article.
556
00:24:16,485 --> 00:24:18,585
Local businesses were selling tickets.
557
00:24:18,709 --> 00:24:21,560
For a dollar,
you could go up to the rooftop.
558
00:24:21,654 --> 00:24:25,189
So it's likely that the
business you're investigating,
559
00:24:25,284 --> 00:24:28,418
people were up on that roof
watching the execution.
560
00:24:28,546 --> 00:24:30,279
Wow.
561
00:24:30,386 --> 00:24:33,121
But it doesn't go as planned.
562
00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:34,597
Armijo found in a journal
563
00:24:34,686 --> 00:24:37,203
this new method of hanging somebody.
564
00:24:37,296 --> 00:24:38,495
It's called the jerk method.
565
00:24:38,583 --> 00:24:40,550
And it's supposed to be a more humane way
566
00:24:40,641 --> 00:24:42,525
of executing somebody.
567
00:24:42,666 --> 00:24:46,234
But when he's jerked up,
his head hits the crossbeam,
568
00:24:46,346 --> 00:24:48,196
and his skull is crushed.
569
00:24:48,287 --> 00:24:49,953
This execution is so botched
570
00:24:50,043 --> 00:24:52,794
they can't get the noose off his neck.
571
00:24:52,888 --> 00:24:55,572
So he's buried with the rope still on him.
572
00:24:55,665 --> 00:24:58,849
Wow.
573
00:24:58,961 --> 00:25:00,527
He's white.
574
00:25:00,633 --> 00:25:02,299
He's well-known.
575
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:05,007
I don't know if he was, like,
maybe some kind of lawman
576
00:25:05,117 --> 00:25:08,619
or some [bleep]
577
00:25:08,714 --> 00:25:12,099
He says that sometimes,
he wasn't always a lawman.
578
00:25:12,193 --> 00:25:14,343
So, what the [bleep] was done to him?
579
00:25:14,435 --> 00:25:16,101
But I don't know.
580
00:25:16,225 --> 00:25:18,492
I think the guy gets hanged.
581
00:25:28,706 --> 00:25:31,039
I saw several dead people during my walk.
582
00:25:31,147 --> 00:25:33,214
But two stood out the most.
583
00:25:33,322 --> 00:25:36,323
First, the killer I saw in the kitchen.
584
00:25:36,468 --> 00:25:39,669
He is late 30s maybe.
585
00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:43,682
He had a very Italian-looking nose.
586
00:25:43,778 --> 00:25:48,114
And his eyes were closer
together than normal.
587
00:25:48,211 --> 00:25:49,911
Next, I described the angry woman
588
00:25:50,018 --> 00:25:52,552
trying to get the living's attention.
589
00:25:52,645 --> 00:25:57,265
She was, like,
grabbing his arm, shaking him.
590
00:25:57,380 --> 00:26:00,948
She has really long, black hair.
591
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,226
And when she gets mad,
592
00:26:02,314 --> 00:26:04,765
it's kind of, like, whipping around.
593
00:26:12,670 --> 00:26:14,203
Is this what you saw?
594
00:26:15,648 --> 00:26:17,314
Yes.
595
00:26:37,584 --> 00:26:40,590
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
596
00:26:40,698 --> 00:26:41,897
we're ready to reveal our findings
597
00:26:42,003 --> 00:26:45,338
to each other and our
clients for the first time.
598
00:26:45,449 --> 00:26:46,948
Now, Amy, in 1974,
599
00:26:47,089 --> 00:26:49,322
Shirley and her husband
opened this restaurant.
600
00:26:49,414 --> 00:26:51,297
It took a lot of blood, sweat and tears.
601
00:26:51,405 --> 00:26:53,405
But it became a success.
602
00:26:53,496 --> 00:26:54,945
Recently, they turned the High Noon over
603
00:26:55,052 --> 00:26:56,418
to their daughter, Carla.
604
00:26:56,524 --> 00:26:58,257
And that's kind of when
the trouble started.
605
00:26:58,364 --> 00:26:59,964
Activity's gotten physical.
606
00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:03,004
And Carla's two kids are
pretty scared to be here.
607
00:27:03,116 --> 00:27:04,965
This is actually a photo of the two kids.
608
00:27:05,089 --> 00:27:07,139
This is Charley, who's 16.
609
00:27:07,231 --> 00:27:09,164
And this is Edie, who's 13.
610
00:27:09,272 --> 00:27:10,972
Now, Carla's in a tough spot.
611
00:27:11,112 --> 00:27:12,912
She wants to honor the family legacy
612
00:27:13,052 --> 00:27:15,953
and keep the restaurant going.
613
00:27:16,064 --> 00:27:17,380
But she's also a worried mom.
614
00:27:17,469 --> 00:27:19,135
And she doesn't want to stay here
615
00:27:19,242 --> 00:27:20,575
if it's not safe for her kids.
616
00:27:20,664 --> 00:27:22,881
So now that Amy knows a little
bit about what's going on,
617
00:27:22,974 --> 00:27:24,924
I'm gonna ask her to
tell us about her walk.
618
00:27:28,143 --> 00:27:29,642
AMY: When I first got here,
619
00:27:29,748 --> 00:27:33,383
there was this commotion going on outside.
620
00:27:33,496 --> 00:27:36,197
Uh, there were a lot of men.
621
00:27:36,306 --> 00:27:38,807
And they were yelling and screaming
622
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:41,017
and just kind of going nuts.
623
00:27:41,108 --> 00:27:44,760
A lot of them were on the rooftops.
624
00:27:44,872 --> 00:27:46,939
Then, I noticed a group of men
625
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,281
kind of walking down the street.
626
00:27:49,423 --> 00:27:51,723
In the center of all of these men
627
00:27:51,831 --> 00:27:55,216
was this one man that they
were kind of manhandling.
628
00:27:55,312 --> 00:27:58,513
They hated him and wanted to kill him.
629
00:27:58,624 --> 00:28:02,209
And then, I believe that he was hanged.
630
00:28:02,338 --> 00:28:03,537
Wow.
631
00:28:03,643 --> 00:28:05,326
I didn't really have to think
about this one too long.
632
00:28:05,416 --> 00:28:08,517
There was a guy in 1883 by
the name of Milton Yarberry,
633
00:28:08,627 --> 00:28:10,477
who was hanged just down the block here.
634
00:28:10,569 --> 00:28:11,484
Okay.
635
00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:14,273
Milton was born in Arkansas in 1849.
636
00:28:14,383 --> 00:28:16,549
He started a life of crime pretty young.
637
00:28:16,658 --> 00:28:18,709
By the time he got to Albuquerque in 1880,
638
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,333
he had already killed four men.
639
00:28:20,439 --> 00:28:23,824
I actually managed to
track down a photo of him.
640
00:28:25,993 --> 00:28:27,059
Wow.
641
00:28:27,165 --> 00:28:28,564
Pretty intense-looking guy.
642
00:28:28,670 --> 00:28:32,222
Now, somehow, this illiterate murderer
643
00:28:32,317 --> 00:28:36,019
became friendly with the
local sheriff of Albuquerque.
644
00:28:36,114 --> 00:28:38,832
He was Perfecto Armijo.
645
00:28:38,942 --> 00:28:40,441
Perfecto made a bad decision
646
00:28:40,582 --> 00:28:43,699
and made Yarberry Albuquerque's
first town marshal.
647
00:28:45,634 --> 00:28:47,968
Now, Yarberry finds out that his girlfriend
648
00:28:48,076 --> 00:28:50,843
was cheating on him with
this guy named Harry Brown.
649
00:28:50,953 --> 00:28:53,320
So, how does he handle it?
Handles it with a gun.
650
00:28:53,429 --> 00:28:55,596
Tracks him down.
And he shoots him, kills him.
651
00:28:55,704 --> 00:28:58,005
He was tried for murder even
though he was the marshal.
652
00:28:58,114 --> 00:28:59,346
But he was acquitted.
653
00:28:59,436 --> 00:29:02,036
Now, you think he would lay
low after that happened.
654
00:29:02,162 --> 00:29:03,028
He didn't.
655
00:29:03,133 --> 00:29:04,432
Only a few weeks later,
656
00:29:04,521 --> 00:29:08,040
he winds up, uh,
responding to a shots-fired-type call.
657
00:29:08,135 --> 00:29:09,785
And he sees a guy, tells him to stop.
658
00:29:09,874 --> 00:29:11,290
He's walking away.
659
00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:13,964
And he shoots him three times
in the back and kills him.
660
00:29:14,074 --> 00:29:15,423
He gets tried again.
661
00:29:15,546 --> 00:29:19,231
This time,
he's found guilty and sentenced to hang.
662
00:29:20,665 --> 00:29:23,332
Now, on February 9, 1883,
663
00:29:23,426 --> 00:29:25,276
he was paraded through the
streets here in Old Town
664
00:29:25,366 --> 00:29:27,449
on the way to the gallows.
665
00:29:27,541 --> 00:29:28,957
Wow.
666
00:29:29,063 --> 00:29:30,462
Now, you said people were drunk
and rowdy and stuff like that?
667
00:29:30,568 --> 00:29:31,634
Oh, yeah.
668
00:29:31,774 --> 00:29:33,690
Building owners here
wind up selling tickets
669
00:29:33,814 --> 00:29:35,397
for $1 apiece for people
670
00:29:35,487 --> 00:29:37,537
to actually watch the
hangings from the roof.
671
00:29:37,662 --> 00:29:38,861
So, most likely, people
672
00:29:38,967 --> 00:29:41,601
were cheering his execution
on your rooftop that day.
673
00:29:41,694 --> 00:29:42,943
Wow.
674
00:29:43,083 --> 00:29:46,484
Interesting.
675
00:29:46,579 --> 00:29:49,030
So, uh, what else?
676
00:29:49,139 --> 00:29:52,057
There's three different
conscious dead people here.
677
00:29:52,183 --> 00:29:54,217
One of them was a female.
678
00:29:54,358 --> 00:29:56,125
She was in her 40s.
679
00:29:56,232 --> 00:29:59,400
I met her in the reception area.
680
00:30:00,180 --> 00:30:02,414
What?
681
00:30:02,505 --> 00:30:03,821
Continue talking. It's a...
682
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:05,193
Okay.
683
00:30:05,282 --> 00:30:07,699
The other area that she
likes to hang out at
684
00:30:07,809 --> 00:30:10,776
is that dining area.
685
00:30:10,887 --> 00:30:12,036
She was short.
686
00:30:12,125 --> 00:30:14,692
She had extremely long, beautiful hair.
687
00:30:14,784 --> 00:30:16,768
And it was dark.
688
00:30:16,909 --> 00:30:18,442
She was attempting to interact
689
00:30:18,533 --> 00:30:20,416
with the living male and female,
690
00:30:20,506 --> 00:30:23,807
trying to talk to them
and trying to grab them,
691
00:30:23,902 --> 00:30:25,635
trying to shake them.
692
00:30:25,776 --> 00:30:30,763
And she feels like they're not hearing her.
693
00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:34,914
And she would get extremely upset.
694
00:30:35,044 --> 00:30:37,177
When that would occur,
695
00:30:37,252 --> 00:30:41,221
her hair would go up and get all crazy.
696
00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:44,735
And this is how she's
expressing her frustration.
697
00:30:44,814 --> 00:30:46,480
Now, the reason they
reacted the way they did
698
00:30:46,621 --> 00:30:48,287
when you described her in that room
699
00:30:48,394 --> 00:30:50,962
is a lot of people have seen this woman.
700
00:30:51,104 --> 00:30:52,303
Lots of people.
701
00:30:52,409 --> 00:30:55,027
I stepped into the dining
room very late one night.
702
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:57,269
And the minute I stepped into the room,
703
00:30:57,395 --> 00:30:59,729
she just came rushing at me and went, like,
704
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:01,219
like, right through me.
705
00:31:01,343 --> 00:31:03,777
I screamed. I really screamed.
706
00:31:03,869 --> 00:31:08,172
Now, the funny thing is Charley,
your son, saw a similar thing.
707
00:31:08,302 --> 00:31:10,302
Explain to Amy what Charley had seen.
708
00:31:10,411 --> 00:31:12,411
He was walking down the back hallway
709
00:31:12,501 --> 00:31:14,751
and just looked through the windows
710
00:31:14,894 --> 00:31:18,195
and saw a figure, a woman in white...
711
00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:19,739
- White. Hmm.
- ...in this room.
712
00:31:19,829 --> 00:31:21,295
Okay.
713
00:31:21,418 --> 00:31:23,985
So I had a sketch done of this woman.
714
00:31:24,078 --> 00:31:26,328
And she was trying to,
715
00:31:26,421 --> 00:31:30,639
um, get the attention of a particular male.
716
00:31:33,179 --> 00:31:34,328
Oh, geez.
717
00:31:34,417 --> 00:31:37,201
This is how she looked when you saw her?
718
00:31:37,278 --> 00:31:38,878
That's upset, all right.
719
00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,066
That's scary.
720
00:31:45,174 --> 00:31:47,174
That's where I work mostly.
721
00:31:47,265 --> 00:31:48,781
That's definitely the space
722
00:31:48,888 --> 00:31:52,023
where so many people feel,
you know, a presence.
723
00:31:53,639 --> 00:31:55,573
In my mind,
I was thinking she wanted me out of there.
724
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:57,713
She wanted me out of her space.
She wanted me out of her place.
725
00:31:57,804 --> 00:32:00,505
Interesting. Okay.
726
00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:01,564
Now, did you get any idea
727
00:32:01,653 --> 00:32:03,803
who this woman might have been in life?
728
00:32:03,911 --> 00:32:06,261
She knew that she was ill before she died.
729
00:32:06,387 --> 00:32:09,955
But her actual death
came pretty sudden, uh,
730
00:32:10,051 --> 00:32:12,368
something like a sudden heart attack.
731
00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:14,477
She might have died recently.
732
00:32:14,585 --> 00:32:17,452
She looked like she was in her 60s.
733
00:32:17,546 --> 00:32:22,549
Um, there seemed to be
some issue with her family.
734
00:32:22,682 --> 00:32:24,765
I did see a For Sale sign.
735
00:32:24,856 --> 00:32:27,857
And she was absolutely unhappy about it.
736
00:32:27,968 --> 00:32:31,936
I think that she regretted the decision
737
00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:34,751
that she made about this location
738
00:32:34,843 --> 00:32:37,227
and possibly leaving it to her children.
739
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,670
That's interesting.
That's really interesting.
740
00:32:39,762 --> 00:32:41,929
There was a woman that
lived on the property here
741
00:32:42,054 --> 00:32:44,354
that suffered a lot during her time here.
742
00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:47,297
Felicity Vigil and her husband at the time,
Carlos,
743
00:32:47,408 --> 00:32:49,274
bought this property in 1920.
744
00:32:49,416 --> 00:32:51,399
After moving here, she lost four kids...
745
00:32:51,489 --> 00:32:52,655
Whoa.
746
00:32:52,761 --> 00:32:55,295
Within five years,
all under the age of 2.
747
00:32:55,404 --> 00:32:57,104
Now, to make things worse for this woman,
748
00:32:57,178 --> 00:32:59,311
her husband contracted syphilis.
749
00:32:59,402 --> 00:33:00,535
Now, she didn't have it,
750
00:33:00,658 --> 00:33:03,408
which only meant that he
had to be cheating on her.
751
00:33:03,501 --> 00:33:06,051
But the disease damaged Carlos' brain.
752
00:33:06,145 --> 00:33:10,114
And she had him committed to
the state mental hospital.
753
00:33:10,227 --> 00:33:12,427
Now, he died in 1927.
754
00:33:12,518 --> 00:33:14,268
I got his death certificate here.
755
00:33:14,358 --> 00:33:16,742
She didn't even claim his body.
756
00:33:16,835 --> 00:33:18,718
She just left it there.
757
00:33:18,859 --> 00:33:21,059
Now, Amy, you mentioned this
woman suffered from a disease
758
00:33:21,151 --> 00:33:22,317
and then died suddenly.
759
00:33:22,439 --> 00:33:25,641
Felicitas suffered from high blood pressure
760
00:33:25,752 --> 00:33:28,252
and caused her to have a stroke in 1959.
761
00:33:28,395 --> 00:33:31,763
I have her death certificate here.
762
00:33:31,875 --> 00:33:34,375
Now, she was here a long time, 39 years.
763
00:33:34,484 --> 00:33:36,518
But she died on the property.
764
00:33:36,609 --> 00:33:38,593
Now, you mentioned she had
regret about leaving this place
765
00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:40,850
to her kids,
and that's exactly what she did.
766
00:33:40,942 --> 00:33:42,609
She left it to her daughter and two sons.
767
00:33:42,715 --> 00:33:44,748
- Okay.
- Now, just a few years
768
00:33:44,889 --> 00:33:48,291
after they got the property after she died,
they sold it.
769
00:33:48,436 --> 00:33:50,520
It's kind of sad when you think about that,
you know?
770
00:33:50,611 --> 00:33:53,078
So she probably said, "Oh, look.
I'm leaving you this.
771
00:33:53,171 --> 00:33:54,854
It's our legacy,"
kind of like the way your mother
772
00:33:54,994 --> 00:33:55,993
and father are leaving you...
773
00:33:56,082 --> 00:33:57,114
- Right.
- ...the restaurant, you know?
774
00:33:57,202 --> 00:33:59,002
And... and here, her
kids just abandoned it.
775
00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:01,344
It's sad. It's very sad.
776
00:34:03,427 --> 00:34:04,793
Now, you said there were three dead people.
777
00:34:04,899 --> 00:34:06,115
Who else did you see?
778
00:34:06,236 --> 00:34:08,103
I encountered a male
779
00:34:08,194 --> 00:34:11,229
who apparently was being
stabbed in the front
780
00:34:11,322 --> 00:34:14,724
and then got him a couple
of times in the back.
781
00:34:14,836 --> 00:34:17,169
I got the name Frank or Frankie with him.
782
00:34:17,278 --> 00:34:20,012
He was indicating that he felt betrayed,
783
00:34:20,106 --> 00:34:22,723
and he feels a lot of pain and depression.
784
00:34:22,866 --> 00:34:24,732
So I felt like, around the bar area,
785
00:34:24,874 --> 00:34:28,041
people would feel this kind of pain,
stomach pain,
786
00:34:28,136 --> 00:34:29,552
lower-back pain.
787
00:34:29,691 --> 00:34:31,124
- Oh, really?
- Yeah.
788
00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:32,930
Tell Amy about that.
789
00:34:33,037 --> 00:34:34,236
I get the back pain.
790
00:34:34,376 --> 00:34:35,842
Okay.
791
00:34:35,931 --> 00:34:37,614
You know,
I think I'm gonna be able to figure out
792
00:34:37,705 --> 00:34:40,973
who this might be for
Amy and for you as well.
793
00:34:41,067 --> 00:34:42,283
You said the name Frankie.
794
00:34:42,406 --> 00:34:43,488
Yes.
795
00:34:43,577 --> 00:34:44,759
The guy I'm gonna tell you about,
796
00:34:44,882 --> 00:34:46,632
his name is Freddy Moya.
797
00:34:46,722 --> 00:34:48,639
Now, Freddy was a kid who lived
on the property with his parents
798
00:34:48,729 --> 00:34:50,262
from '41 to '46.
799
00:34:50,369 --> 00:34:51,969
Then, they moved right across the street.
800
00:34:52,109 --> 00:34:53,208
When Freddy was 16,
801
00:34:53,297 --> 00:34:56,097
he went with a friend to
a New Year's Eve party
802
00:34:56,224 --> 00:34:57,590
right down the street at the armory.
803
00:34:57,730 --> 00:34:59,563
They were ringing in 1952.
804
00:34:59,671 --> 00:35:02,906
Now, 13 gang members from
the Atrisco neighborhood
805
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:04,333
wind up coming into the party.
806
00:35:04,422 --> 00:35:07,056
And, uh, Freddy was attacked
by one of the gang members.
807
00:35:07,165 --> 00:35:09,899
He was stabbed several times
exactly where you said...
808
00:35:10,043 --> 00:35:10,942
Oh, wow.
809
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:12,846
The chest and in the back.
810
00:35:12,954 --> 00:35:15,087
Now, the stab wound in the
front is what killed him.
811
00:35:15,178 --> 00:35:17,596
It was so bad it severed his aorta.
812
00:35:17,688 --> 00:35:19,037
Then, five minutes after midnight,
813
00:35:19,127 --> 00:35:21,010
he was pronounced dead.
814
00:35:21,118 --> 00:35:22,868
Now, do you think this could
be the kid you ran into?
815
00:35:22,992 --> 00:35:23,790
Yes.
816
00:35:23,928 --> 00:35:25,344
Okay.
817
00:35:25,468 --> 00:35:28,602
So we have the lady who died
and the stabbing victim.
818
00:35:28,697 --> 00:35:30,713
But you said there was a third dead person.
819
00:35:30,804 --> 00:35:32,570
- Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
- So, who was that?
820
00:35:32,695 --> 00:35:35,829
The third dead person I ran
into was in the kitchen area.
821
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:38,708
And he's the one I'm most concerned about.
822
00:35:38,818 --> 00:35:41,702
Immediately, I felt sick, uh, nauseous.
823
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:44,613
Um, I felt intense neck pain.
824
00:35:44,707 --> 00:35:48,341
And then, I felt like hands
were on my neck squeezing.
825
00:35:48,454 --> 00:35:50,487
I heard a male laughing and saying,
826
00:35:50,628 --> 00:35:53,413
"You stupid [bleep] That'll teach ya."
827
00:35:53,506 --> 00:35:59,009
I saw the image of one
man killing another man.
828
00:35:59,110 --> 00:36:02,361
I got that he was stocky
and seemed to be in his 30s.
829
00:36:02,473 --> 00:36:05,508
Because he was such a violent,
nasty person in life,
830
00:36:05,601 --> 00:36:09,987
he could possibly, uh,
be violent and nasty in death.
831
00:36:10,085 --> 00:36:13,136
The other thing...
He's kind of obsessed with doors.
832
00:36:13,246 --> 00:36:16,998
He has to have the doors closed.
833
00:36:17,094 --> 00:36:18,961
Talk about Edie with the bathroom incident.
834
00:36:19,035 --> 00:36:21,669
Right. So my daughter went to the restroom.
835
00:36:21,779 --> 00:36:23,795
And when she went to
open that bathroom door
836
00:36:23,887 --> 00:36:25,553
to pull it open, she felt like
837
00:36:25,644 --> 00:36:29,229
someone was pushing it shut
so that she couldn't leave.
838
00:36:29,341 --> 00:36:32,442
It really, really scared her.
839
00:36:32,586 --> 00:36:33,719
You get a good look at him?
840
00:36:33,824 --> 00:36:35,924
I did. I had a sketch done.
841
00:36:36,032 --> 00:36:39,600
We could put a face to maybe
some of the problems here.
842
00:36:43,242 --> 00:36:44,659
He's a mean-looking guy.
843
00:36:44,748 --> 00:36:47,866
I can tell you that.
844
00:36:47,977 --> 00:36:49,777
Look at that.
845
00:36:53,347 --> 00:36:56,715
Wait a second. Take a look at this guy.
846
00:36:56,811 --> 00:36:59,211
Holy [bleep] take look at this.
847
00:36:59,354 --> 00:37:01,337
Take a look at this photo.
848
00:37:01,461 --> 00:37:03,778
Now take a look at this sketch.
849
00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:05,670
Oh, my God.
850
00:37:05,777 --> 00:37:07,343
- What do you think?
- Brows look very much alike.
851
00:37:07,450 --> 00:37:09,534
You can see the resemblance, the wide nose,
852
00:37:09,658 --> 00:37:12,893
the wide bridge nose.
853
00:37:13,004 --> 00:37:15,671
This guy scares the crap out of me.
854
00:37:24,608 --> 00:37:26,975
AMY: I had a sketch done.
855
00:37:27,084 --> 00:37:30,452
We can put a face to maybe
some of the problems here.
856
00:37:35,448 --> 00:37:37,482
He's a mean-looking guy.
857
00:37:37,573 --> 00:37:40,574
I can tell you that.
858
00:37:40,702 --> 00:37:44,320
Take a look at that.
859
00:37:44,416 --> 00:37:46,049
Wow.
860
00:37:46,139 --> 00:37:49,507
Wait a second. Take a look at this guy.
861
00:37:49,601 --> 00:37:52,002
Holy [bleep] look at this.
862
00:37:52,094 --> 00:37:54,078
Take a look at this photo.
863
00:37:54,169 --> 00:37:56,536
Now take a look at this sketch.
864
00:37:56,662 --> 00:37:58,462
Oh, my God.
865
00:37:58,569 --> 00:38:00,485
- What do you think?
- Brows look very much alike.
866
00:38:00,609 --> 00:38:02,359
You can see the resemblance, the wide nose,
867
00:38:02,449 --> 00:38:05,183
the wide bridge nose.
868
00:38:05,293 --> 00:38:09,162
This guy scares the crap out of me.
869
00:38:09,258 --> 00:38:11,342
The sketch looks just like Yarberry,
870
00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:12,649
the marshal who was hung.
871
00:38:12,738 --> 00:38:13,754
Yeah. Look.
872
00:38:16,552 --> 00:38:19,770
Look at the nose without the mustache.
873
00:38:20,935 --> 00:38:22,735
Oh, God. His eyes are...
874
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:24,476
Right?
875
00:38:27,711 --> 00:38:30,145
Now, when I laid down the
photo of Yarberry earlier,
876
00:38:30,237 --> 00:38:31,787
did he look familiar to you?
877
00:38:31,877 --> 00:38:33,243
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
878
00:38:33,366 --> 00:38:35,600
Big time.
879
00:38:35,691 --> 00:38:37,808
Plus, the guy's a murder.
You said the guy was a mur...
880
00:38:37,949 --> 00:38:39,315
Yeah, he is a murderer.
881
00:38:39,405 --> 00:38:40,404
Died in his 30s.
882
00:38:40,492 --> 00:38:42,826
He's 34 when he gets hung.
883
00:38:42,918 --> 00:38:44,134
Now, I didn't mention this earlier
884
00:38:44,274 --> 00:38:45,973
because I didn't think it was important.
885
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,414
But, um, you said the neck thing, right?
886
00:38:48,522 --> 00:38:49,555
There was some kind of neck
pain that you were feeling?
887
00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:50,560
Yes.
888
00:38:50,697 --> 00:38:52,780
Well, he was hung by his neck, right?
889
00:38:52,872 --> 00:38:54,972
Well, when they try to execute Yarberry,
890
00:38:55,064 --> 00:38:57,281
it went terribly wrong.
891
00:38:57,373 --> 00:39:00,357
They try to kill him using a
method called the jerk method.
892
00:39:00,450 --> 00:39:02,717
And what it was,
was a system of ropes and pulleys.
893
00:39:02,843 --> 00:39:04,109
And it failed.
894
00:39:04,198 --> 00:39:07,400
It wind up launching his
body into the wooden beam
895
00:39:07,494 --> 00:39:09,427
above the gallows and crushed his head.
896
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,543
Now, the rope was pulled
so tightly around his neck
897
00:39:14,655 --> 00:39:16,154
they couldn't get it off.
898
00:39:16,227 --> 00:39:18,727
So they had to cut it but leave
the noose intact on his neck
899
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:20,136
and buried him that way.
Oh, wow.
900
00:39:20,225 --> 00:39:24,711
STEVE:
And he was hung just down the block here.
901
00:39:28,473 --> 00:39:30,039
Well, Carla, now, we know why your kids
902
00:39:30,145 --> 00:39:32,112
are so scared to be here alone.
903
00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:35,705
But we haven't answered the big
question of can you stay here
904
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,784
and still carry on your family tradition
905
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:39,208
of having this restaurant
906
00:39:39,347 --> 00:39:42,281
and one day turn it over to your kids?
907
00:39:42,375 --> 00:39:44,875
Uh, for that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
908
00:39:48,113 --> 00:39:49,763
So what I would like you to do
909
00:39:49,853 --> 00:39:53,338
is get a medium who is
also a psychotherapist.
910
00:39:53,467 --> 00:39:54,983
That's your best bet.
911
00:39:55,072 --> 00:39:56,071
Okay.
912
00:39:56,210 --> 00:39:59,111
So the first day, when this person comes,
913
00:39:59,204 --> 00:40:02,372
I would like them to speak with her,
914
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,167
basically giving her a session
915
00:40:05,311 --> 00:40:07,427
where she can talk about
916
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:08,885
everything that went on in her life
917
00:40:08,991 --> 00:40:11,258
and kind of process it.
918
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,234
The second day, I would like the person
919
00:40:13,324 --> 00:40:18,277
to come back and assist
in her being moved on.
920
00:40:18,376 --> 00:40:21,144
The third day, this person will come.
921
00:40:21,271 --> 00:40:24,505
And they will initially work
with the stabbing victim.
922
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,833
They'll be giving that person a talking-to
923
00:40:26,959 --> 00:40:32,162
and then go ahead and move the murderer on.
924
00:40:32,261 --> 00:40:33,778
And on the fourth day,
925
00:40:33,885 --> 00:40:35,051
the person can come back
926
00:40:35,156 --> 00:40:38,991
and do a cleansing of the
building and the residual,
927
00:40:39,087 --> 00:40:42,973
um, paying specific attention to that,
uh, room.
928
00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:47,560
As long as you do all of these steps,
929
00:40:47,703 --> 00:40:50,537
it's a huge possibility that you'll be okay.
930
00:40:50,681 --> 00:40:52,881
You look a lot happier
than when I first met you.
931
00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:54,673
I'm super relieved.
932
00:40:54,763 --> 00:40:55,995
I entertained the thought
933
00:40:56,101 --> 00:40:58,835
that maybe we were having a group delusion.
934
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,853
How do you feel now about
being able to tell your dad
935
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,977
that, "Hopefully,
I can do this for another 40 years"?
936
00:41:05,102 --> 00:41:07,302
So relieved.
937
00:41:07,393 --> 00:41:08,860
He built many things along the way.
938
00:41:08,983 --> 00:41:10,616
But this is what remains.
939
00:41:10,706 --> 00:41:12,239
And this is the part that I honor.
940
00:41:12,362 --> 00:41:14,179
How does it feel to know that maybe,
one day,
941
00:41:14,269 --> 00:41:16,236
that your grandson and granddaughter
942
00:41:16,327 --> 00:41:18,661
may be running this place?
943
00:41:18,753 --> 00:41:20,136
I would really love that.
944
00:41:20,259 --> 00:41:23,760
I would feel complete in so many ways,
absolutely.
945
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:27,146
AMY: It won't be easy
946
00:41:27,252 --> 00:41:29,335
removing the dead wreaking
havoc inside this restaurant.
947
00:41:29,426 --> 00:41:32,477
But with the help of a
medium with special skills,
948
00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:34,510
the evil here should be banished.
949
00:41:34,851 --> 00:41:39,041
And Carla could keep the restaurant in
her family for generations to come.
950
00:41:39,091 --> 00:41:43,641
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