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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,427 --> 00:00:15,769 I think a lot of bad things happened in the trees. 2 00:00:16,713 --> 00:00:18,271 It's getting more violent. 3 00:00:18,274 --> 00:00:19,880 I've been scratched. 4 00:00:19,884 --> 00:00:21,458 I feel like I'm being watched. 5 00:00:21,461 --> 00:00:23,948 Something's wrong with the kid. 6 00:00:23,953 --> 00:00:26,400 It smells like rotting flesh. 7 00:00:26,404 --> 00:00:29,684 When these people die, they're stuck with this thing. 8 00:00:29,689 --> 00:00:32,231 She's trying to drive her insane. 9 00:00:32,235 --> 00:00:34,839 Something bad's going to happen. 10 00:00:34,844 --> 00:00:37,352 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:37,356 --> 00:00:39,125 There's panic. 12 00:00:39,129 --> 00:00:40,564 And it's almost like a butchering. 13 00:00:40,567 --> 00:00:41,635 I see dead people. 14 00:00:41,638 --> 00:00:43,775 They all died horribly. 15 00:00:43,779 --> 00:00:45,494 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:45,498 --> 00:00:46,901 Get out of here. 17 00:00:46,904 --> 00:00:48,541 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:48,544 --> 00:00:50,580 Vicious. 19 00:00:50,584 --> 00:00:53,730 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:53,735 --> 00:00:55,646 It doesn't matter where you are. I'll find you. 21 00:00:55,650 --> 00:00:56,920 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:56,923 --> 00:00:58,191 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:00:58,194 --> 00:01:00,568 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:00,572 --> 00:01:02,278 This guy's a real piece of work. 25 00:01:02,282 --> 00:01:05,962 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:05,967 --> 00:01:07,469 I feel like I live in a house of Hell. 27 00:01:07,473 --> 00:01:08,640 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:08,643 --> 00:01:10,147 This is not good. 29 00:01:10,150 --> 00:01:12,659 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:12,664 --> 00:01:14,705 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:14,709 --> 00:01:16,076 Until the very end... 32 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:17,883 I want my life back. 33 00:01:17,887 --> 00:01:20,194 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:20,198 --> 00:01:21,533 - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs] 35 00:01:21,536 --> 00:01:22,871 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:22,874 --> 00:01:24,275 Oh, my God. 37 00:01:24,278 --> 00:01:26,179 This is going to kill us. 38 00:01:27,803 --> 00:01:31,862 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 39 00:01:40,872 --> 00:01:42,477 STEVE: I'm down here in Covington, Louisiana. 40 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,450 It's about 40 miles north of New Orleans. 41 00:01:47,292 --> 00:01:50,600 I received a call from a woman who was hysterical on the phone. 42 00:01:50,605 --> 00:01:53,807 She said the activity in her home destroyed her marriage, 43 00:01:53,812 --> 00:01:56,182 and now it's going after her three kids. 44 00:01:56,186 --> 00:01:58,623 When I spoke with her, she really tugged at my heart, 45 00:01:58,627 --> 00:02:00,060 and I hope we can help her out. 46 00:02:03,810 --> 00:02:07,453 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I have to make sure 47 00:02:07,458 --> 00:02:10,529 the location is free from any leading information. 48 00:02:11,906 --> 00:02:14,943 Family photos, personal items, and books 49 00:02:14,947 --> 00:02:17,586 have to be covered or removed. 50 00:02:17,591 --> 00:02:19,026 When I'm finished, 51 00:02:19,029 --> 00:02:22,500 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 52 00:02:31,532 --> 00:02:33,299 AMY: Oh, my God. 53 00:02:33,302 --> 00:02:39,943 The first thing that I got was really extreme amounts of anger, 54 00:02:39,951 --> 00:02:42,118 like deadly anger. 55 00:02:42,122 --> 00:02:44,493 Uh-oh. 56 00:02:48,007 --> 00:02:53,481 I think a lot of bad things happened in the trees. 57 00:02:53,488 --> 00:03:01,568 It's very brutal, savage, and dark. 58 00:03:10,767 --> 00:03:13,068 STEVE: So, Rhonda, I'm glad I'm here. 59 00:03:13,072 --> 00:03:15,776 Listening to you on the phone broke my heart, 60 00:03:15,781 --> 00:03:17,148 how desperate you are. 61 00:03:17,151 --> 00:03:18,951 It's very stressful here. 62 00:03:18,955 --> 00:03:22,693 Me and my children, they're terrified, I'm terrified. 63 00:03:22,698 --> 00:03:24,265 And how old are the kids? 64 00:03:26,906 --> 00:03:29,109 This is Scarlett. She's 10. 65 00:03:29,113 --> 00:03:31,948 Gilby, he's 6, and Savannah, she's 8. 66 00:03:31,953 --> 00:03:33,720 Are they being affected? 67 00:03:33,723 --> 00:03:38,396 Yes, I think Scarlett's probably had the most experiences. 68 00:03:38,403 --> 00:03:40,670 What have you experienced? 69 00:03:40,674 --> 00:03:44,309 We're hearing a lot of footsteps, voices. 70 00:03:44,314 --> 00:03:50,051 We're seeing shadows, and now it's getting more violent. 71 00:03:50,058 --> 00:03:51,725 How long have you been in the house? 72 00:03:51,729 --> 00:03:52,861 December of '04. 73 00:03:52,864 --> 00:03:55,000 My ex-husband and I custom-built the house. 74 00:03:55,004 --> 00:03:56,637 - Your ex-husband? - Yes. 75 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,072 Okay. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. 76 00:03:59,077 --> 00:04:01,410 Definitely think some of the activity in this house 77 00:04:01,414 --> 00:04:03,082 contributed to our divorce. 78 00:04:03,085 --> 00:04:04,219 Why do you say that? 79 00:04:04,222 --> 00:04:07,354 We were very much in love, very happy. 80 00:04:07,359 --> 00:04:09,124 He was my soul mate. 81 00:04:09,128 --> 00:04:12,493 And he was just never his regular self 82 00:04:12,498 --> 00:04:14,198 after we moved here. 83 00:04:14,202 --> 00:04:16,369 You saw a personality change? 84 00:04:16,373 --> 00:04:20,207 Yes. And there was just other issues, like substance abuse. 85 00:04:20,212 --> 00:04:22,778 He was addicted to pain medication. 86 00:04:22,783 --> 00:04:25,250 Geez. After moving here? 87 00:04:25,254 --> 00:04:26,985 After moving here. 88 00:04:26,989 --> 00:04:29,087 I don't mean to get nosy. I just... 89 00:04:29,090 --> 00:04:32,223 The more I know, the more I can convey to Amy. 90 00:04:32,228 --> 00:04:33,662 Mm-hmm. 91 00:04:33,666 --> 00:04:36,699 So you feel your husband's personality and the mood swings 92 00:04:36,704 --> 00:04:39,940 changed when he moved here with you? 93 00:04:39,945 --> 00:04:41,044 What about yourself? 94 00:04:41,047 --> 00:04:43,046 I definitely noticed it with myself, too. 95 00:04:43,049 --> 00:04:45,113 Could be angry really easy. 96 00:04:45,117 --> 00:04:46,951 I'm in pain a lot. 97 00:04:46,955 --> 00:04:48,621 I started having health problems 98 00:04:48,625 --> 00:04:50,659 the day after we bought the property. 99 00:04:50,662 --> 00:04:55,693 It's a burning in my legs and feet, and it's all the time. 100 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:59,035 And I've been to over 40 specialists. 101 00:05:00,341 --> 00:05:02,310 They still don't know what's wrong with me 102 00:05:02,314 --> 00:05:04,444 - or why it happened. - Let me ask you a question. 103 00:05:04,448 --> 00:05:06,580 As far as the investigation goes, 104 00:05:06,584 --> 00:05:08,951 what are you hoping to get out of it? 105 00:05:08,955 --> 00:05:13,588 I would hope that my children and I could not be afraid, 106 00:05:13,595 --> 00:05:15,027 have a normal childhood. 107 00:05:15,030 --> 00:05:17,361 They shouldn't have to live in fear like this. 108 00:05:23,208 --> 00:05:26,177 This is, like, ridiculously painful. 109 00:05:26,181 --> 00:05:31,944 The energy here is so bad that it could... [sighs] 110 00:05:31,952 --> 00:05:34,221 Harm a sensitive. 111 00:05:36,692 --> 00:05:38,293 It's strange 112 00:05:38,297 --> 00:05:44,330 because it is composed of not just the dead energy here 113 00:05:44,337 --> 00:05:46,004 but also the living. 114 00:05:46,008 --> 00:05:48,640 And they are absorbing this. 115 00:05:48,644 --> 00:05:53,781 That's caused an illness, I think, for the female here. 116 00:05:57,090 --> 00:06:00,060 I don't know if it's heart or if it's blood, 117 00:06:00,065 --> 00:06:03,596 but there's something physical that's manifested 118 00:06:03,601 --> 00:06:05,134 as a result of this. 119 00:06:05,137 --> 00:06:07,939 I see, like, restlessness. 120 00:06:07,944 --> 00:06:12,277 I see panic. I see series of illnesses. 121 00:06:12,283 --> 00:06:15,419 So this is something going on. 122 00:06:19,193 --> 00:06:22,829 This has, like, incapacitated this person at times. 123 00:06:22,835 --> 00:06:25,401 I think there's been hospital visits. 124 00:06:25,405 --> 00:06:27,641 And I'm, like, seeing this conversation, 125 00:06:27,645 --> 00:06:29,712 and there's a male. 126 00:06:29,716 --> 00:06:32,951 And he's just like, "Why don't"... 127 00:06:34,224 --> 00:06:37,160 Like, "Why don't we just leave?" 128 00:06:39,605 --> 00:06:42,173 God, I feel so sick. 129 00:06:46,586 --> 00:06:49,321 So, what's going on up here? 130 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:51,626 I've been slapped up here. 131 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:53,228 You've been slapped? 132 00:06:53,232 --> 00:06:54,796 - Yes. - How? 133 00:06:54,799 --> 00:06:57,901 I was over here, putting some things away, 134 00:06:57,906 --> 00:07:01,342 and it felt like someone slapped me on my butt. 135 00:07:01,347 --> 00:07:03,546 Did something fall on you maybe? 136 00:07:03,550 --> 00:07:06,217 No, nothing fell on me. Felt like a hand. 137 00:07:06,222 --> 00:07:09,123 Okay. But did you look to see if any of the kids were up here or anything? 138 00:07:09,128 --> 00:07:10,495 Yeah, they were downstairs. 139 00:07:10,498 --> 00:07:13,165 Any other physical things happen to you up here? 140 00:07:13,169 --> 00:07:15,002 Yes. This just happened recently. 141 00:07:15,006 --> 00:07:17,439 I had three scratches just appear on my arm. 142 00:07:17,443 --> 00:07:19,176 Kind of looks like cat scratches, you know? 143 00:07:19,180 --> 00:07:20,245 It's not. 144 00:07:20,248 --> 00:07:22,882 The cat that sleeps with us is declawed. 145 00:07:22,886 --> 00:07:25,354 They're still showing up here. 146 00:07:25,359 --> 00:07:27,058 Oh, yeah. I can see it. 147 00:07:27,061 --> 00:07:30,063 What about the kids? Any experiences with them? 148 00:07:30,068 --> 00:07:31,968 Yes, all of my children have had similar attacks. 149 00:07:31,972 --> 00:07:33,704 Okay. 150 00:07:38,848 --> 00:07:41,017 Oh, God. 151 00:07:41,021 --> 00:07:44,858 There's this old woman up here. 152 00:07:44,864 --> 00:07:49,533 She is very grumpy. 153 00:07:50,939 --> 00:07:53,006 Whoo! Ooh! 154 00:07:53,010 --> 00:07:54,710 Whoo! 155 00:07:54,714 --> 00:07:56,848 Talk about some [bleep] anger issues. 156 00:07:56,852 --> 00:07:58,252 [Bleep] 157 00:07:58,255 --> 00:08:00,756 She hates the living people. 158 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,725 She just says, "I haunt them. That's what I do." 159 00:08:04,731 --> 00:08:08,034 And she says she does it very well. 160 00:08:08,039 --> 00:08:13,045 I think this old woman is focused on an adult female here. 161 00:08:13,052 --> 00:08:17,154 I'm thinking she's trying to drive her insane. 162 00:08:20,997 --> 00:08:23,330 STEVE: All right. So, what's going on in the bedroom, 163 00:08:23,334 --> 00:08:25,333 as far as experiences go? 164 00:08:25,337 --> 00:08:28,341 One night, I was touched a lot. 165 00:08:28,346 --> 00:08:31,414 My head, my face, my hair was touched. 166 00:08:31,419 --> 00:08:33,787 And then I felt someone come on the foot of the bed 167 00:08:33,791 --> 00:08:35,591 and, like, sit next to me like this, 168 00:08:35,595 --> 00:08:38,995 and the bed went down, and it didn't get back up. 169 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,769 It just stayed like this. 170 00:08:40,772 --> 00:08:42,540 - It feel like a person? - Yes. 171 00:08:42,544 --> 00:08:44,578 It felt like a person was getting in the bed. 172 00:08:44,582 --> 00:08:46,146 How big of a person? 173 00:08:46,149 --> 00:08:47,983 It felt like someone my size. 174 00:08:47,987 --> 00:08:49,353 I mean, this is crazy. 175 00:08:49,356 --> 00:08:50,755 This is what I'm used to. 176 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:52,259 Unless you live it every day, 177 00:08:52,262 --> 00:08:54,863 people just don't understand what you go through. 178 00:09:01,346 --> 00:09:05,886 There have been times that the old woman 179 00:09:05,892 --> 00:09:09,723 has beat on the living woman here. 180 00:09:14,969 --> 00:09:17,871 I see her standing next to a bed. 181 00:09:17,876 --> 00:09:20,741 And the old woman is very big 182 00:09:20,745 --> 00:09:24,849 and literally just sits on her body. 183 00:09:24,855 --> 00:09:29,791 And the woman's huge, so it's like smushing the living woman. 184 00:09:33,401 --> 00:09:35,639 She's trying to drive her crazy, 185 00:09:35,643 --> 00:09:40,914 hoping that she's gonna lose her [bleep] mind, basically. 186 00:10:00,757 --> 00:10:03,093 STEVE: How long did you live here before you got divorced? 187 00:10:03,098 --> 00:10:04,364 SCOTT: About seven years. 188 00:10:04,367 --> 00:10:06,166 So, Scott, the seven years you were living here, 189 00:10:06,170 --> 00:10:08,169 did you ever experience anything you couldn't explain? 190 00:10:08,172 --> 00:10:09,339 You know, like the smells 191 00:10:09,342 --> 00:10:11,577 that would just constantly come from that room... 192 00:10:11,582 --> 00:10:13,348 The same smells, like rotting flesh. 193 00:10:13,351 --> 00:10:14,350 Which room are we talking about? 194 00:10:14,353 --> 00:10:15,386 The playroom. 195 00:10:15,389 --> 00:10:17,889 Did you ever investigate it? 196 00:10:17,893 --> 00:10:19,428 Oh, yeah. 197 00:10:19,432 --> 00:10:21,365 The drywall was, you know, dry. 198 00:10:21,369 --> 00:10:23,669 I mean, it wasn't wet. There was no moisture anywhere. 199 00:10:23,673 --> 00:10:26,174 So, there was no indication of a decaying body or anything? 200 00:10:26,178 --> 00:10:28,110 - None. - Anything else? 201 00:10:28,114 --> 00:10:29,712 No. I'm here for Rhonda 202 00:10:29,715 --> 00:10:31,748 because I know how much this is affecting her. 203 00:10:31,752 --> 00:10:33,787 Whether I'm a true believer or not, I mean, 204 00:10:33,791 --> 00:10:36,927 I have to take care of my kids and her, as well. 205 00:10:36,932 --> 00:10:39,163 You realize they're getting scratched? 206 00:10:39,167 --> 00:10:41,168 She told me about that. She showed me some of the marks. 207 00:10:41,172 --> 00:10:42,805 Yeah, I mean, that's got to drive you crazy. 208 00:10:42,808 --> 00:10:44,106 It's horrible. 209 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:46,911 I mean, how do you protect your child when that's going on? 210 00:10:46,915 --> 00:10:48,616 They shouldn't have to kind of go through this. 211 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:50,588 So, when I was talking to Rhonda, 212 00:10:50,592 --> 00:10:52,259 she basically said you guys were soul mates. 213 00:10:52,262 --> 00:10:53,593 Do you agree with that? 214 00:10:53,596 --> 00:10:55,830 Oh, yeah. I have no doubt about that. 215 00:10:55,834 --> 00:10:58,370 We felt like we were doing everything the right way, 216 00:10:58,375 --> 00:11:00,241 and then we moved in this house. 217 00:11:00,245 --> 00:11:01,944 Things just started changing. 218 00:11:01,947 --> 00:11:04,114 And the whole seven years I was here, 219 00:11:04,118 --> 00:11:06,788 I was just more unhappy than I've ever been in my life. 220 00:11:06,793 --> 00:11:09,660 My behavior started becoming more... 221 00:11:09,664 --> 00:11:11,698 little bit more aggressive. 222 00:11:11,702 --> 00:11:13,734 So, you think you've changed since you've been out of here? 223 00:11:13,738 --> 00:11:15,237 It's a weird thing you would say that. 224 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,308 I don't think I've ever been happier in my entire life. 225 00:11:20,751 --> 00:11:25,284 There's this living male, and he's just had it, 226 00:11:25,290 --> 00:11:29,525 and he's very overly dramatic 227 00:11:29,531 --> 00:11:32,268 and just, like, screaming at everyone. 228 00:11:35,044 --> 00:11:37,613 He's just not reacting well, I think, 229 00:11:37,617 --> 00:11:39,450 to everything that's going on, I guess. 230 00:11:39,454 --> 00:11:41,317 He wants out. 231 00:11:41,321 --> 00:11:45,426 He wants away from these people, the living people. 232 00:11:45,431 --> 00:11:48,198 I don't know why this living man is flipping out, 233 00:11:48,203 --> 00:11:51,037 but it has something to do with the trees outside. 234 00:11:52,445 --> 00:11:57,046 There's a male in this, like, tree house thing. 235 00:11:58,621 --> 00:12:02,458 There's some connection between this dead man 236 00:12:02,463 --> 00:12:05,496 and the living male at this place. 237 00:12:05,501 --> 00:12:07,801 They have things in common. 238 00:12:07,805 --> 00:12:11,209 I can't... can't keep talking to you 239 00:12:11,214 --> 00:12:16,284 if this is gonna keep being in the way. 240 00:12:16,291 --> 00:12:18,393 [Sighs] 241 00:12:18,397 --> 00:12:20,531 He likes this relationship 242 00:12:20,535 --> 00:12:23,871 'cause he's felt lonely for a long time, 243 00:12:23,876 --> 00:12:29,283 and he feels like this is a kindred spirit for him. 244 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,122 - How old are you? - 8. 245 00:12:38,224 --> 00:12:39,300 8 years old. 246 00:12:39,401 --> 00:12:42,068 Now, is this the room that you sleep in? 247 00:12:42,073 --> 00:12:43,506 I would, but I don't. 248 00:12:43,509 --> 00:12:46,146 You don't, huh? Where are you sleeping? 249 00:12:46,151 --> 00:12:48,252 With my mom and my sister and my brother. 250 00:12:48,256 --> 00:12:50,890 Okay. Why are you sleeping with mommy? 251 00:12:50,894 --> 00:12:53,094 Because I don't want to sleep in my room 252 00:12:53,098 --> 00:12:55,199 because I feel like I'm being watched. 253 00:12:55,203 --> 00:12:58,003 Who do you think is watching you, honey? 254 00:12:58,008 --> 00:12:59,507 I know it's not good. 255 00:12:59,510 --> 00:13:01,945 Have you ever seen anything or heard anything? 256 00:13:01,949 --> 00:13:04,884 I saw a back of a lady's head in a bun. 257 00:13:04,889 --> 00:13:07,924 Okay. Where did you see this lady's head? 258 00:13:07,929 --> 00:13:10,096 In the kitchen, on a chair. 259 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:11,499 - In the kitchen? - Yeah. 260 00:13:11,502 --> 00:13:12,501 Okay. 261 00:13:12,504 --> 00:13:13,769 Are you afraid of the house, honey? 262 00:13:13,772 --> 00:13:14,904 Yeah. 263 00:13:14,907 --> 00:13:16,639 Any place you don't like being alone in? 264 00:13:16,643 --> 00:13:18,710 All of the places. 265 00:13:22,253 --> 00:13:25,222 There's something here. There's something... 266 00:13:25,227 --> 00:13:27,160 There's something here. 267 00:13:29,334 --> 00:13:31,766 Something's wrong with the kid. 268 00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:34,805 Something's really wrong with her. 269 00:13:34,810 --> 00:13:36,944 Mm. 270 00:13:36,948 --> 00:13:40,646 Something... Something is inside the child. 271 00:13:43,889 --> 00:13:45,787 I think it looks like a woman to her. 272 00:13:45,791 --> 00:13:47,791 I saw something on the floor, 273 00:13:47,795 --> 00:13:50,495 something like it crawled in on the floor or something. 274 00:13:50,499 --> 00:13:51,933 Then I, like, see this woman, 275 00:13:51,936 --> 00:13:54,434 so I don't know if she thinks it's a woman or not. 276 00:13:54,439 --> 00:13:56,339 Sometimes she plays with it. 277 00:13:56,343 --> 00:13:58,110 There's always somebody in the room, 278 00:13:58,113 --> 00:14:00,278 and they're always talking, and it's not good. 279 00:14:00,282 --> 00:14:02,480 I don't know what this thing is. 280 00:14:02,484 --> 00:14:04,949 I think it wants to take the kid. 281 00:14:11,999 --> 00:14:14,401 So, Scarlett, I was talking to Mommy, 282 00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:18,108 and she told me you were having some experiences in the house. 283 00:14:18,114 --> 00:14:19,412 - How old are you? - 10. 284 00:14:19,415 --> 00:14:21,348 Okay. And you're the oldest, right? 285 00:14:21,352 --> 00:14:22,786 Yes. 286 00:14:22,789 --> 00:14:24,957 You guys are going through a lot here, huh? 287 00:14:24,961 --> 00:14:27,061 I've been touched and scratched. 288 00:14:27,065 --> 00:14:30,736 I've been, like, grabbed. 289 00:14:30,741 --> 00:14:33,773 I feel like fingers are just touching me. 290 00:14:33,778 --> 00:14:35,679 Now, you said you get scratched. 291 00:14:35,683 --> 00:14:38,352 How does that happen? What goes on? 292 00:14:38,356 --> 00:14:40,488 It feels like somebody's scratching me, 293 00:14:40,492 --> 00:14:43,894 and it burns really bad for, like, a long time. 294 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:45,333 Maybe a minute later, I'll look down, 295 00:14:45,336 --> 00:14:46,769 there's a giant scratch right there. 296 00:14:48,305 --> 00:14:50,169 Has anything else happened in here? 297 00:14:50,172 --> 00:14:51,771 I see apparitions. 298 00:14:51,775 --> 00:14:53,608 Okay. Of what? 299 00:14:53,612 --> 00:14:56,111 I've seen one of a girl. 300 00:14:56,115 --> 00:14:58,949 She's wearing a long, long, like, pink dress. 301 00:14:58,954 --> 00:15:00,620 What... Did it look like it was old? 302 00:15:00,623 --> 00:15:03,321 Like, old times, or does it look like it was from recent times? 303 00:15:03,326 --> 00:15:05,222 It looked like it was from old times. 304 00:15:05,225 --> 00:15:07,093 Okay. 305 00:15:07,097 --> 00:15:09,830 And I've seen, like, creatures in here. 306 00:15:09,835 --> 00:15:11,703 What kind of creatures? 307 00:15:11,706 --> 00:15:13,673 They look like people, 308 00:15:13,677 --> 00:15:18,076 but they're, like, all crouched down and scaly. 309 00:15:18,082 --> 00:15:21,054 It looks a little bit more like an alien or something. 310 00:15:21,059 --> 00:15:22,324 What are they doing? 311 00:15:22,327 --> 00:15:24,497 They're just staring at me. 312 00:15:24,501 --> 00:15:26,336 I can tell by the look on your face, 313 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:28,441 you're really afraid of these things, huh? 314 00:15:31,348 --> 00:15:33,649 MATTHEW: Can you describe this thing now? 315 00:15:33,654 --> 00:15:37,354 It can look, like, humanoid, 316 00:15:37,359 --> 00:15:40,298 but it can also look like an animal. 317 00:15:40,303 --> 00:15:42,169 It can change its height. 318 00:15:42,173 --> 00:15:44,439 It can be standing on two feet, 319 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:48,511 or it can be like an animal, on all fours. 320 00:15:48,516 --> 00:15:52,783 Always pitch-black, and it does always have wings. 321 00:15:52,789 --> 00:15:55,092 So, what would you call this? 322 00:15:55,096 --> 00:15:58,030 Most people would call it, like, a demon, 323 00:15:58,035 --> 00:16:01,668 but it's not... not a demon. 324 00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:03,909 I think it's scarier. 325 00:16:03,913 --> 00:16:10,784 I'm very confused how it's associated or around a child. 326 00:16:14,862 --> 00:16:19,164 And they can attach to people... living people. 327 00:16:19,170 --> 00:16:23,437 Like people who are alcoholics or drug addicts. 328 00:16:23,443 --> 00:16:25,043 They attach, typically, 329 00:16:25,046 --> 00:16:27,147 to somebody who's in the throes of it. 330 00:16:27,151 --> 00:16:30,117 When these people die, 331 00:16:30,122 --> 00:16:33,689 they're stuck with this thing for, like, eternity. 332 00:16:33,694 --> 00:16:39,329 I've seen, like, the dead people with these things, 333 00:16:39,336 --> 00:16:44,472 and they look like they're suffering greatly. 334 00:16:44,479 --> 00:16:48,516 Like, they seriously, like, better do what I say, 335 00:16:48,522 --> 00:16:51,122 or people are gonna [bleep] die. 336 00:16:51,126 --> 00:16:52,126 Period. 337 00:17:05,803 --> 00:17:07,935 STEVE: Even though Rhonda's house is new, 338 00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:10,473 the property deeds go back to the mid 1800s. 339 00:17:10,477 --> 00:17:12,980 I'm on my way to meet with a local historian 340 00:17:12,985 --> 00:17:15,320 who said one of the original owners of the land 341 00:17:15,324 --> 00:17:17,924 suffered heartbreak, insanity, and death. 342 00:17:25,471 --> 00:17:27,205 So, Mary, you mentioned on the phone 343 00:17:27,209 --> 00:17:29,738 that the original owners of the property I'm investigating 344 00:17:29,742 --> 00:17:31,942 had a pretty tough time there, a lot of tragedy. 345 00:17:31,946 --> 00:17:33,709 Right. But before we get to that, 346 00:17:33,713 --> 00:17:35,378 how did they even come to the property? 347 00:17:35,381 --> 00:17:38,682 Well, Frances Bossier inherited about 100 acres of property 348 00:17:38,687 --> 00:17:42,321 from her deceased grandmother in the Covington area, 349 00:17:42,327 --> 00:17:45,627 which is where your client's house is located. 350 00:17:45,632 --> 00:17:48,433 This is the land patent, showing her receiving the property. 351 00:17:49,472 --> 00:17:52,439 Okay. Now, who'd she come here with? 352 00:17:52,444 --> 00:17:55,512 She came here with her husband, Joseph. 353 00:17:55,517 --> 00:17:57,986 So I've got to assume back in the 1850s, at some point, 354 00:17:57,990 --> 00:18:00,725 the husband would've got the property turned over to his name. 355 00:18:00,730 --> 00:18:03,565 Correct. She did turn over her assets to him. 356 00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:06,769 But she thought that he was being very reckless 357 00:18:06,773 --> 00:18:07,772 with his investments, 358 00:18:07,775 --> 00:18:09,810 so she actually sued him 359 00:18:09,814 --> 00:18:13,384 to gain control of her property and funds. 360 00:18:13,389 --> 00:18:16,457 We've actually been able to find copies of the lawsuit. 361 00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:18,895 Okay, so what happens? 362 00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:20,499 Well, she actually won, 363 00:18:20,502 --> 00:18:23,540 and he had to pay her her money back, 364 00:18:23,545 --> 00:18:25,777 and she maintained control of all of her property, 365 00:18:25,781 --> 00:18:28,313 which was unheard of for that time period. 366 00:18:28,317 --> 00:18:29,815 But he must have been very reckless. 367 00:18:29,819 --> 00:18:31,952 Okay. So they were married when they went to court on this. 368 00:18:31,956 --> 00:18:33,288 Did it break them up after that? 369 00:18:33,291 --> 00:18:35,322 No, it didn't. 370 00:18:35,326 --> 00:18:36,926 Okay. Now, you mentioned on the phone 371 00:18:36,929 --> 00:18:38,729 there was a lot of tragedy with this family. 372 00:18:38,733 --> 00:18:40,499 And I'm assuming it wasn't the court case. 373 00:18:40,503 --> 00:18:43,937 No, unfortunately, in 1853, their oldest daughter, Fanny, 374 00:18:43,942 --> 00:18:47,345 drowned in an accident right here in Lake Pontchartrain. 375 00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:51,019 So I would assume, between the court case against each other 376 00:18:51,023 --> 00:18:53,356 and now they lose a kid, it had to be tough on their marriage. 377 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,761 Of course. 378 00:18:54,765 --> 00:18:56,232 Okay. 379 00:18:57,736 --> 00:19:00,805 AMY: The old woman who beats on the living woman here, 380 00:19:00,809 --> 00:19:01,941 this is her house. 381 00:19:01,944 --> 00:19:03,710 She wants the house back. 382 00:19:03,714 --> 00:19:06,179 She doesn't want the living here. 383 00:19:06,183 --> 00:19:07,882 I think she was wealthy. 384 00:19:07,886 --> 00:19:12,524 What I see from her past is a very dysfunctional family. 385 00:19:15,003 --> 00:19:17,339 I don't think she had a very good life. 386 00:19:19,544 --> 00:19:22,215 So somebody was tugging on me. 387 00:19:22,219 --> 00:19:24,818 Okay. She's a little kid. 388 00:19:24,823 --> 00:19:30,995 Kind of feel like she might have drowned... 389 00:19:33,171 --> 00:19:35,340 but, like, in an outside water, 390 00:19:35,344 --> 00:19:41,815 like, in, like, a creek or lake or something. 391 00:19:41,823 --> 00:19:44,257 You aren't kidding when you said 392 00:19:44,262 --> 00:19:46,830 there was tragedy with this family. 393 00:19:46,834 --> 00:19:48,501 Right, and, actually, that's not it. 394 00:19:48,505 --> 00:19:49,604 There was something else. 395 00:19:49,607 --> 00:19:52,308 In 1859, Joseph Bossier got involved 396 00:19:52,312 --> 00:19:55,214 with a man named J.M. Vernon. 397 00:19:55,219 --> 00:19:57,716 And he was his business partner, 398 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,989 and, like all of Bossier's business dealings, it went sour. 399 00:20:02,597 --> 00:20:04,731 J.M. Vernon was a newspaper editor, 400 00:20:04,735 --> 00:20:06,168 so to get Bossier back, 401 00:20:06,171 --> 00:20:09,342 he actually wrote some nasty things about him in the paper. 402 00:20:09,347 --> 00:20:12,481 Okay. So, what does this guy Bossier do about this slander? 403 00:20:12,486 --> 00:20:14,886 Well, he actually went to find Vernon 404 00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:16,593 in a New Orleans courthouse. 405 00:20:16,597 --> 00:20:18,999 Okay. And he brought a gun, 406 00:20:19,003 --> 00:20:22,204 and he drew his gun, but Vernon was a faster draw. 407 00:20:22,209 --> 00:20:25,077 Vernon shot Bossier four times 408 00:20:25,081 --> 00:20:28,250 in the hands, face, ribs, and mouth. 409 00:20:28,255 --> 00:20:31,056 Okay. Does he die? 410 00:20:31,061 --> 00:20:33,827 12 days later, he died, leaving Frances a widow. 411 00:20:33,831 --> 00:20:35,865 Huh. 412 00:20:37,939 --> 00:20:40,207 This guy who hangs out in this tree 413 00:20:40,211 --> 00:20:43,277 [bleep] there's a really bad pain associated with him. 414 00:20:43,282 --> 00:20:46,783 And then I am feeling like something hit me here. 415 00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:49,053 I got to just kind of let this go 416 00:20:49,058 --> 00:20:52,090 'cause it's really kind of messing me up a little bit. 417 00:20:52,094 --> 00:20:53,261 [Sighs] 418 00:20:53,264 --> 00:20:56,067 I'm trying to learn more about the man in the tree 419 00:20:56,072 --> 00:20:59,040 who's attached himself to a living male in the house, 420 00:20:59,045 --> 00:21:02,315 but all I'm getting is intense pain in the back of my head. 421 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,891 And then I hear a gunshot right next to my ear, 422 00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:07,997 and that's how he died. 423 00:21:09,670 --> 00:21:11,570 I don't know if it's self-inflicted 424 00:21:11,573 --> 00:21:13,072 or if he was shot in the head. 425 00:21:13,076 --> 00:21:14,643 God [bleep] 426 00:21:14,646 --> 00:21:16,416 This [bleep] hurts. 427 00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:18,688 I can't even concentrate. 428 00:21:18,692 --> 00:21:21,160 [Sighs] 429 00:21:35,087 --> 00:21:38,199 STEVE: This guy Joseph Bossier sounds like a real loose cannon, 430 00:21:38,302 --> 00:21:40,434 and I want to know if there's more to his story. 431 00:21:40,438 --> 00:21:42,137 But I've actually managed 432 00:21:42,239 --> 00:21:44,308 to track down one of his descendants 433 00:21:44,312 --> 00:21:46,977 who says his life was so wild, it could be made into a movie. 434 00:21:56,166 --> 00:21:58,198 STEVE: So, Rene, the reason I contacted you 435 00:21:58,202 --> 00:22:00,100 was I did an interview about the first owners of the property 436 00:22:00,103 --> 00:22:02,503 I'm investigating, and Joseph Bossier came up. 437 00:22:02,508 --> 00:22:04,174 Now, you're related to him. 438 00:22:04,177 --> 00:22:05,645 I am. 439 00:22:05,648 --> 00:22:07,079 I am his fifth great-granddaughter. 440 00:22:07,083 --> 00:22:09,215 - This is him? - That's him. 441 00:22:09,219 --> 00:22:12,488 So eventually he winds up with the property I'm investigating. 442 00:22:12,493 --> 00:22:14,226 But before that, what do you know about him? 443 00:22:14,229 --> 00:22:17,366 Well, he was in the Navy when he was 11. 444 00:22:17,371 --> 00:22:19,507 He got kicked out because he stole something. 445 00:22:19,511 --> 00:22:22,413 Then he was in the Army when he turned 12. 446 00:22:22,418 --> 00:22:24,714 I don't know why he was discharged from the Army 447 00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:26,318 - at age 12. - Okay. 448 00:22:26,322 --> 00:22:29,291 Then he became a mercenary for several different countries... 449 00:22:29,295 --> 00:22:31,794 France, Russia, Spain, Britain, Egypt. 450 00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:33,198 Wow. 451 00:22:33,201 --> 00:22:36,135 I bet even his time overseas wasn't gonna be a quiet one. 452 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,274 No. In the British Navy, as a mercenary, 453 00:22:38,278 --> 00:22:40,612 he was accused of drowning a crew member. 454 00:22:40,616 --> 00:22:43,381 Then he built a ship. 455 00:22:43,385 --> 00:22:44,585 - He did? - Yeah. 456 00:22:44,589 --> 00:22:46,291 He played pirate. 457 00:22:46,294 --> 00:22:47,792 Pirate? 458 00:22:47,795 --> 00:22:49,094 Where did he do that? 459 00:22:49,098 --> 00:22:50,731 Right out here in New Orleans. 460 00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:52,768 When you say he played pirate, did he actually rob people? 461 00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:53,839 No. 462 00:22:53,842 --> 00:22:56,545 He would see other ships out in the Gulf, 463 00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:58,918 and he would know that they were his friends. 464 00:22:58,922 --> 00:23:00,054 Okay. 465 00:23:00,057 --> 00:23:01,623 So he would raise the skull and crossbones, 466 00:23:01,626 --> 00:23:03,158 and he would board their ship. 467 00:23:03,162 --> 00:23:05,198 So, he was just out in the water, playing... 468 00:23:05,202 --> 00:23:06,833 Except for one time. 469 00:23:06,836 --> 00:23:08,168 What happened? 470 00:23:08,171 --> 00:23:11,940 Well, he thought it was his friend when he boarded the ship, 471 00:23:11,946 --> 00:23:13,645 but it wasn't who he thought it was. 472 00:23:13,648 --> 00:23:15,815 Him and his crew member got beaten 473 00:23:15,819 --> 00:23:18,320 within an inch of their life. 474 00:23:18,325 --> 00:23:19,557 Wow. 475 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,459 - Does he ever get charged with anything? - No. 476 00:23:21,463 --> 00:23:23,763 He ends up suing the captain 477 00:23:23,767 --> 00:23:25,466 for damages to his health and reputation. 478 00:23:25,469 --> 00:23:26,869 [Scoffs] Okay. 479 00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:29,507 This guy was really something else. 480 00:23:34,487 --> 00:23:38,321 AMY: There's something with military here. 481 00:23:38,326 --> 00:23:40,895 Something. 482 00:23:44,638 --> 00:23:47,038 This guy who hangs out in a tree, 483 00:23:47,042 --> 00:23:50,510 he was in the military. 484 00:23:50,516 --> 00:23:53,585 Yeah. He got twisted in the head. 485 00:23:53,589 --> 00:23:56,921 Yeah, he did. He got real [bleep] up. 486 00:23:56,926 --> 00:24:00,495 He's saying to me that, you know, 487 00:24:00,501 --> 00:24:07,573 a lot of things that he did was due to his head, 488 00:24:07,581 --> 00:24:12,684 being, you know, messed up. 489 00:24:12,691 --> 00:24:17,030 Do you know when this is from? 490 00:24:17,036 --> 00:24:18,838 This is... 491 00:24:22,082 --> 00:24:23,116 [Bleep] 492 00:24:24,555 --> 00:24:28,023 You know, he's not denying that a part of him didn't like it. 493 00:24:28,028 --> 00:24:30,362 You know, a part of him liked it, 494 00:24:30,366 --> 00:24:32,264 but he's saying, 495 00:24:32,268 --> 00:24:37,670 "I saw a lot of horrible things, and it ruined me. 496 00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:40,540 It ruined me." 497 00:24:43,848 --> 00:24:46,584 STEVE: So far, I know the original owner of my client's land 498 00:24:46,588 --> 00:24:49,722 was a reckless mercenary who wound up murdered. 499 00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:54,327 But I need to see if there's anything else that could help my case. 500 00:24:54,332 --> 00:24:57,468 Searching through old records, 501 00:24:57,473 --> 00:25:00,711 I find a man named Frank Lenel, who killed himself. 502 00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:04,618 But the reasons are unclear. 503 00:25:04,623 --> 00:25:07,660 So I've asked a local archivist to meet me here. 504 00:25:07,665 --> 00:25:11,267 He says the tragedies this man suffered could help my case. 505 00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:16,915 So, Bill, I found that article about this guy Lenel 506 00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:18,252 that killed himself. 507 00:25:18,255 --> 00:25:20,459 Do you know how he came about being on the property? 508 00:25:20,463 --> 00:25:24,800 Frank married Louisa Schultz in 1858. 509 00:25:24,806 --> 00:25:26,939 And a year later, her father died, 510 00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:29,779 and she inherited hundreds of acres of property. 511 00:25:29,783 --> 00:25:31,218 And the house was on that property. 512 00:25:31,222 --> 00:25:32,888 Okay. So, now, the article said it was 1880 513 00:25:32,891 --> 00:25:34,156 when he killed himself. 514 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,325 So, what happens before that? I mean... 515 00:25:36,329 --> 00:25:38,431 He and Louisa had about six children, 516 00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:42,136 and then, unfortunately, in 1871, she died. 517 00:25:42,142 --> 00:25:43,978 She was 36 years old. 518 00:25:43,982 --> 00:25:45,748 Okay. So she's young when she died. 519 00:25:45,751 --> 00:25:47,216 Do we know what she died of? 520 00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:48,952 No, we weren't able to find that. 521 00:25:48,955 --> 00:25:50,654 Then, the next year, 522 00:25:50,658 --> 00:25:53,928 he remarries a woman by the name of Elizabeth Davis. 523 00:25:53,933 --> 00:25:56,466 That was in 1872. 524 00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:59,371 The area was building up quite a bit. 525 00:25:59,376 --> 00:26:03,180 And because of the trains coming in and the population expansion, 526 00:26:03,185 --> 00:26:06,419 he decided, as an entrepreneur, to open a hotel, 527 00:26:06,424 --> 00:26:08,557 which he was able to do in 1880. 528 00:26:08,561 --> 00:26:10,258 That's the same year he kills himself. 529 00:26:10,262 --> 00:26:11,761 Correct. 530 00:26:11,764 --> 00:26:13,997 Now, you would think opening up a hotel would be a good thing. 531 00:26:14,001 --> 00:26:15,067 You would think so, 532 00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:17,337 but three months before he opened the hotel, 533 00:26:17,341 --> 00:26:19,775 his second wife died of unknown causes. 534 00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:21,213 She was 43 years old. 535 00:26:21,216 --> 00:26:22,450 Wow. 536 00:26:22,453 --> 00:26:24,521 Did he live long enough to see the hotel open? 537 00:26:24,525 --> 00:26:27,628 Well, he did open the hotel successfully, 538 00:26:27,633 --> 00:26:29,632 and it was a month later that he killed himself. 539 00:26:29,636 --> 00:26:32,571 In fact, he was found in the woods 540 00:26:32,576 --> 00:26:35,878 about a mile and a quarter from the hotel. 541 00:26:35,883 --> 00:26:38,720 And at the coroner's inquest, they determined 542 00:26:38,724 --> 00:26:42,563 that he had shot himself with a pistol through the chin, 543 00:26:42,569 --> 00:26:43,734 into the brain. 544 00:26:43,737 --> 00:26:45,338 Okay. 545 00:26:51,821 --> 00:26:54,953 AMY: During my walk, I saw a dead man in the trees. 546 00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:56,925 I'm meeting with a sketch artist 547 00:26:56,929 --> 00:26:59,229 to draw him as he appeared in life. 548 00:26:59,233 --> 00:27:01,866 He was in his 40s. 549 00:27:01,871 --> 00:27:05,303 He mouth is kind of feminine-looking, 550 00:27:05,308 --> 00:27:08,478 and his hair is slicked back. 551 00:27:08,483 --> 00:27:10,781 Next, I describe the disturbing scene 552 00:27:10,785 --> 00:27:13,018 I witnessed in a little girl's room. 553 00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:15,890 There was a dead woman. 554 00:27:15,895 --> 00:27:20,264 And behind the child, there was this thing. 555 00:27:20,270 --> 00:27:25,508 And it has wings, like, almost encasing his body. 556 00:27:31,291 --> 00:27:33,860 Amy, is this what you saw? 557 00:27:36,436 --> 00:27:37,737 Yes, that's what I saw. 558 00:27:58,806 --> 00:28:01,772 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 559 00:28:01,777 --> 00:28:04,244 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 560 00:28:04,248 --> 00:28:06,751 and our clients for the first time. 561 00:28:06,756 --> 00:28:10,289 Now, Amy, I want you to meet Rhonda and Scott. 562 00:28:10,294 --> 00:28:14,864 Rhonda lives in the house with her three beautiful young kids. 563 00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:19,900 Scott is their father and Rhonda's ex-husband. 564 00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:22,106 He lived in the house for a while, 565 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:24,512 and you've been out for about three years now? 566 00:28:24,516 --> 00:28:26,483 But he's a skeptic, and Rhonda wanted him here 567 00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:28,719 just so he could know the hell that she's going through 568 00:28:28,723 --> 00:28:30,254 with the kids. 569 00:28:30,257 --> 00:28:33,123 Now, you asked me to not hold the reveal in the house. 570 00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:35,327 And that's the first time you've ever done that, 571 00:28:35,331 --> 00:28:37,062 so I'm curious as to why. 572 00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:41,329 Well, there's a lot going on there. 573 00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:47,199 And I personally felt that I was physically in danger. 574 00:28:49,306 --> 00:28:52,344 During my walk, there was this man 575 00:28:52,349 --> 00:28:56,885 who was up in a tree, 576 00:28:56,891 --> 00:29:02,093 and what he was doing, basically, was watching people. 577 00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,567 It was disturbing. 578 00:29:04,972 --> 00:29:07,475 He was saying that he had attached himself 579 00:29:07,479 --> 00:29:09,781 to a male in the house, 580 00:29:09,785 --> 00:29:14,989 that he felt like this person was a kindred spirit to him 581 00:29:14,996 --> 00:29:17,031 and that he really enjoyed this 582 00:29:17,035 --> 00:29:19,504 because he had been lonely for so long. 583 00:29:19,508 --> 00:29:22,444 Now, these guys built the house in 2004, 584 00:29:22,449 --> 00:29:25,086 and Scott's the only guy that lived in the house. 585 00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:26,089 Mm-hmm. 586 00:29:26,092 --> 00:29:27,490 Now, I got to ask you a question. 587 00:29:27,493 --> 00:29:30,661 If this guy attached himself to Scott, let's say, 588 00:29:30,666 --> 00:29:32,763 would it change his behavior? 589 00:29:32,767 --> 00:29:34,499 It's possible. 590 00:29:34,503 --> 00:29:37,264 RHONDA: The whole time we were living there, 591 00:29:37,268 --> 00:29:39,232 everything about his personality was different. 592 00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:42,502 And so was it anger? 593 00:29:42,507 --> 00:29:45,075 Yes, with everybody. 594 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,547 SCOTT: My personality did change while in the house, 595 00:29:47,551 --> 00:29:49,517 and particularly toward the end there, 596 00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:51,520 I mean, I was getting really aggressive. 597 00:29:51,524 --> 00:29:54,388 And I think that contributed to, probably, the final breakup. 598 00:29:56,598 --> 00:29:58,233 Now, did you get anything about this guy, 599 00:29:58,237 --> 00:30:00,304 who he might have been when he was alive? 600 00:30:00,308 --> 00:30:02,740 What I was able to get from this individual 601 00:30:02,744 --> 00:30:04,676 was something about the military. 602 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,916 I believe he was in the military. 603 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,256 And what he said was that when he went into the military, 604 00:30:11,262 --> 00:30:14,631 he saw a lot of things that disturbed him. 605 00:30:14,636 --> 00:30:17,502 So he admits that he got a little messed up in the head 606 00:30:17,507 --> 00:30:20,174 from this whole experience. 607 00:30:20,178 --> 00:30:23,814 Then I heard the gunshot by my ear 608 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:26,520 and was obviously feeling this pain. 609 00:30:26,524 --> 00:30:31,359 What he looked like, in his death state, 610 00:30:31,366 --> 00:30:33,738 was a disaster. 611 00:30:33,742 --> 00:30:35,840 There was a couple guys on your property, 612 00:30:35,844 --> 00:30:39,778 going back with the history, that died from gunshot wounds. 613 00:30:39,783 --> 00:30:42,051 There's one guy in particular, 614 00:30:42,055 --> 00:30:43,523 what she's describing makes me think of. 615 00:30:43,527 --> 00:30:46,697 His name was Joseph Bossier and his wife, Frances, 616 00:30:46,702 --> 00:30:48,468 were the two first recorded owners of the property 617 00:30:48,471 --> 00:30:50,036 you guys live on. 618 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,974 You mentioned this guy was in the military, right? 619 00:30:51,978 --> 00:30:53,345 - Yeah. - Okay. 620 00:30:53,348 --> 00:30:56,047 So now, in 1814, at the age of 11, he joins the Navy. 621 00:30:56,051 --> 00:30:57,485 Geez. 622 00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,088 But he was discharged for theft. 623 00:30:59,091 --> 00:31:01,423 1815, he joins the Army. 624 00:31:01,427 --> 00:31:04,992 This time, he was discharged for unknown reasons. 625 00:31:04,998 --> 00:31:06,963 His involvement in the military doesn't stop there. 626 00:31:06,967 --> 00:31:11,438 Between the years of 1816 and 1823, 627 00:31:11,444 --> 00:31:14,845 he served as a mercenary in five different navies in Europe. 628 00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:16,116 - No way. - Yeah. 629 00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,685 He served in France, Egypt, Russia, Britain, and Spain. 630 00:31:19,690 --> 00:31:22,489 Now, he got thrown out of the British Navy 631 00:31:22,494 --> 00:31:26,061 because he was accused of drowning another crew member. 632 00:31:26,066 --> 00:31:29,433 Now, you said this guy died from a gunshot wound. 633 00:31:29,438 --> 00:31:32,375 In 1859, Bossier gets into a nasty dispute 634 00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:36,612 with a business partner of his, who was a guy named J.M. Vernon. 635 00:31:36,618 --> 00:31:38,251 He was also a newspaper editor. 636 00:31:38,254 --> 00:31:41,423 Now, Vernon printed some pretty nasty, disparaging things 637 00:31:41,428 --> 00:31:42,927 about Bossier, 638 00:31:42,931 --> 00:31:46,433 so Bossier found out that he was gonna be at a courthouse one day, 639 00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:49,143 and he decided to go down there and confront him about this 640 00:31:49,148 --> 00:31:50,216 with a gun. 641 00:31:50,219 --> 00:31:52,620 Vernon, actually, was a quicker draw 642 00:31:52,624 --> 00:31:55,158 and pulled out his gun and shot him four times... 643 00:31:55,162 --> 00:31:58,264 the hand, the mouth, the face, and the ribs. 644 00:31:58,269 --> 00:32:00,769 Take a look at the guy's portrait. 645 00:32:00,773 --> 00:32:03,407 That's Joseph Bossier. 646 00:32:03,412 --> 00:32:07,582 So, is this who you think you might have seen? 647 00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:10,723 Well, I did a sketch of the person I saw. 648 00:32:17,474 --> 00:32:18,607 Wow. 649 00:32:24,850 --> 00:32:26,450 That's the sketch. 650 00:32:26,453 --> 00:32:29,056 Now look at the portrait. 651 00:32:32,030 --> 00:32:35,368 Looks like the same guy. 652 00:32:35,373 --> 00:32:38,674 It's about as good a sketch and a portrait as you're gonna get. 653 00:32:41,052 --> 00:32:45,726 Unfortunately, he felt that you guys were kind of similar, 654 00:32:45,732 --> 00:32:47,032 which is kind of weird. 655 00:32:47,035 --> 00:32:49,203 My personality and his personality 656 00:32:49,207 --> 00:32:51,007 - were like kindred spirits? - Yeah. 657 00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,711 I got to be honest with you. 658 00:32:52,714 --> 00:32:54,646 When I spoke to your ex-wife, she made it sound like 659 00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:56,316 you were pretty reckless on certain things. 660 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,554 Oh, yeah. I've been notorious. 661 00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,327 As far as what? 662 00:33:01,330 --> 00:33:04,332 Making decisions that just made my life a lot more difficult 663 00:33:04,337 --> 00:33:06,503 if I would have made the right decisions. 664 00:33:11,215 --> 00:33:14,215 How did the rest of the walk go? 665 00:33:14,219 --> 00:33:18,421 So then I went upstairs, and I met this old lady 666 00:33:18,427 --> 00:33:25,196 that she has a very strong sense of ownership over the house. 667 00:33:25,204 --> 00:33:27,801 I think at one point that she owned the property. 668 00:33:27,806 --> 00:33:29,372 But for whatever reason, 669 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:32,144 she's honed in on your house specifically. 670 00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:35,013 While she was alive, she was [bleep] about her family. 671 00:33:35,018 --> 00:33:38,684 So she came from a very dysfunctional family. 672 00:33:38,689 --> 00:33:41,090 She did indicate that she was wealthy, 673 00:33:41,094 --> 00:33:43,824 and I just felt, like, a sense of isolation. 674 00:33:43,829 --> 00:33:47,330 Like, I do think that she really just pushed everybody away 675 00:33:47,335 --> 00:33:49,435 because of her attitude problem. 676 00:33:49,439 --> 00:33:51,973 Some of what you're saying could be his wife 677 00:33:51,977 --> 00:33:55,278 because she did come from wealth. 678 00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:58,787 Now, her name was Frances Bossier. 679 00:33:58,793 --> 00:34:01,227 She inherited the 100 acres that your house sits on. 680 00:34:01,231 --> 00:34:05,067 This is actually the deed for her 100 acres. 681 00:34:05,072 --> 00:34:07,874 She actually even sued to get his name off the deed 682 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,679 'cause he was so reckless with money. 683 00:34:09,683 --> 00:34:10,781 Surprisingly, they stayed married, though. 684 00:34:10,784 --> 00:34:12,284 Interesting. 685 00:34:17,598 --> 00:34:19,701 So, does the woman do anything to the living 686 00:34:19,705 --> 00:34:21,471 - that are in the house? - Yes. 687 00:34:21,475 --> 00:34:24,110 She has a very big problem with you. 688 00:34:24,114 --> 00:34:27,017 She admitted that she was physical 689 00:34:27,022 --> 00:34:30,621 and that she was trying to drive you insane. 690 00:34:32,693 --> 00:34:35,729 What about the physical stuff? What are we talking about? 691 00:34:35,734 --> 00:34:37,869 She said beating, like hitting. 692 00:34:37,873 --> 00:34:39,705 So I thought, you know, she's beating. 693 00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:42,672 I don't know. Hitting, pinching, shoving. 694 00:34:42,677 --> 00:34:47,112 Well, Rhonda and her daughter have gotten physical injuries. 695 00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:48,150 They get scratches. 696 00:34:50,124 --> 00:34:53,591 Okay. That's not good. 697 00:34:53,596 --> 00:34:58,333 The one physical thing that she showed me that she did 698 00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:01,007 was she would literally sit on you. 699 00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:02,410 RHONDA: Oh, my God. 700 00:35:02,413 --> 00:35:05,682 I felt somebody crawl on the bed before and, like, sit on it. 701 00:35:05,687 --> 00:35:07,453 - Mm-hmm. - And the bed went down. 702 00:35:07,457 --> 00:35:13,060 Okay, okay. This is really bad. 703 00:35:15,505 --> 00:35:18,676 During my walk, I got that a living woman 704 00:35:18,681 --> 00:35:23,486 was getting very sick from being exposed to the dead. 705 00:35:23,492 --> 00:35:25,761 I got that it had been going on a few years 706 00:35:25,765 --> 00:35:28,164 and that it had incapacitated this person 707 00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:32,102 and that there had been several hospital visits. 708 00:35:32,108 --> 00:35:36,713 I've been sick every day for almost 11 years now. 709 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,693 Nobody knows what happened to me, why I'm in pain. 710 00:35:42,701 --> 00:35:45,270 I'm incapacitated. I'll be in bed for weeks at a time. 711 00:35:45,274 --> 00:35:51,007 It's... it's taken over my life and ruined it. 712 00:35:51,014 --> 00:35:53,314 You got a lot going on so far. 713 00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:57,385 But I know that wasn't the finish of your walk, was it? 714 00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:58,823 No. 715 00:35:58,827 --> 00:36:01,062 How much more can we take? 716 00:36:01,066 --> 00:36:05,065 So after I left the master bedroom, 717 00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:10,474 I went down the hallway where the kids' rooms are. 718 00:36:10,481 --> 00:36:16,418 And I saw a little girl sitting cross-legged on the floor, 719 00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:19,094 talking to the dead lady. 720 00:36:19,098 --> 00:36:21,167 And I tried to go in the room. 721 00:36:21,171 --> 00:36:23,339 I couldn't go in the room. 722 00:36:23,343 --> 00:36:25,009 And that's never happened before. 723 00:36:25,013 --> 00:36:31,916 And then I saw this thing that I have never seen with a kid. 724 00:36:31,924 --> 00:36:35,225 And that really bothered me. 725 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,469 It can take on different forms. 726 00:36:38,472 --> 00:36:40,539 You know, it can be short or tall. 727 00:36:40,543 --> 00:36:43,009 It can take on an animal-like form. 728 00:36:43,014 --> 00:36:46,615 The one feature that it consistently has 729 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:48,552 is these wings, 730 00:36:48,556 --> 00:36:51,758 but they're not fully formed. 731 00:36:51,763 --> 00:36:53,896 Well, this gave me a little bit of a chill, which I never get. 732 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:56,334 And the only reason I got a little chill from it 733 00:36:56,338 --> 00:36:58,402 is because when I interviewed Scarlett, 734 00:36:58,406 --> 00:36:59,804 she described seeing a woman 735 00:36:59,807 --> 00:37:04,009 and this creepy, scaly thing that was crouched down. 736 00:37:05,583 --> 00:37:09,052 And she said it was almost like an alien 737 00:37:09,058 --> 00:37:11,225 but with scales and stuff. 738 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:13,929 She ever mention that to you? 739 00:37:13,933 --> 00:37:16,669 She told me she's seeing things in the playroom 740 00:37:16,674 --> 00:37:18,371 that look like aliens. 741 00:37:21,113 --> 00:37:24,082 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 742 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,009 Just be prepared for what you're gonna see. 743 00:37:37,014 --> 00:37:38,981 God. 744 00:37:51,902 --> 00:37:55,437 AMY: I had a sketch done of what I saw. 745 00:38:04,154 --> 00:38:06,751 Just be prepared for what you're gonna see. 746 00:38:06,755 --> 00:38:08,755 RHONDA: God. 747 00:38:16,308 --> 00:38:18,776 Gilby sees this and Scarlett. 748 00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:23,185 I never want that to happen again. 749 00:38:23,191 --> 00:38:30,095 Never want my children to experience that again. 750 00:38:30,104 --> 00:38:33,505 I almost get a feeling it's like the angel of death. 751 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:35,244 Oh, no. This is no angel. 752 00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:39,883 Well, it was interesting you said "like the angel of death." 753 00:38:39,888 --> 00:38:42,188 It's not death. 754 00:38:42,192 --> 00:38:44,527 For lack of a better term, 755 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:47,931 I guess you would call them demons and devils. 756 00:38:47,936 --> 00:38:50,236 But they're not that. 757 00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,409 They're worse. 758 00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:55,480 And when I've seen it, it's been with drug addicts, 759 00:38:55,485 --> 00:39:00,017 alcoholics, you know, severe addictions. 760 00:39:00,023 --> 00:39:05,827 So to see it with a child was utterly bizarre. 761 00:39:05,835 --> 00:39:08,906 This sucker is really evil. 762 00:39:08,911 --> 00:39:11,812 They don't instigate the addiction. 763 00:39:11,816 --> 00:39:16,753 It comes when the person's in the throes of an addiction, 764 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,860 and it pushes them over the edge and leads them to death. 765 00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:23,434 And then it keeps their soul. 766 00:39:23,437 --> 00:39:27,468 And it tortures them for eternity. 767 00:39:29,641 --> 00:39:31,711 I've had a problem with drug addictions. 768 00:39:32,883 --> 00:39:36,722 Well, more than likely, you brought it into the house. 769 00:39:36,727 --> 00:39:39,663 So I'm thinking, if you got out of your addiction, 770 00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:40,802 maybe he's pissed. 771 00:39:40,805 --> 00:39:42,672 Mm. 772 00:39:42,676 --> 00:39:44,076 He didn't get you. 773 00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,179 And then he saw something easier. 774 00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:53,324 I'm in pain a lot, so I take medicine now, 775 00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:54,996 but I'm not addicted to medicine. 776 00:39:54,999 --> 00:39:56,599 Okay. 777 00:39:56,603 --> 00:40:00,640 The problem is, this thing wants you to become to addicted. 778 00:40:06,121 --> 00:40:10,025 Well, we've had some disturbing and upsetting reveals before 779 00:40:10,030 --> 00:40:12,764 but, honestly, nothing quite like this. 780 00:40:12,769 --> 00:40:14,635 And, Rhonda, I'm so sorry that this happened in your house. 781 00:40:14,638 --> 00:40:15,636 I really am. 782 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,205 But now we're gonna find out 783 00:40:17,209 --> 00:40:19,276 if there's anything you can do about it. 784 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,618 And I'm hoping Amy has an answer for you. 785 00:40:27,028 --> 00:40:29,332 You do need to get a medium 786 00:40:29,336 --> 00:40:34,742 and cleanse your house of the dead that are there 787 00:40:34,749 --> 00:40:38,918 and seal your property so the dead cannot come back in. 788 00:40:38,924 --> 00:40:42,827 But as far as this thing goes, 789 00:40:42,833 --> 00:40:47,437 the only solution that there is is in your hands. 790 00:40:50,817 --> 00:40:53,986 It's not something that somebody can come in 791 00:40:53,991 --> 00:40:55,759 and take care of for you. 792 00:40:57,266 --> 00:41:00,269 Not a lot of people get this warning, 793 00:41:00,274 --> 00:41:03,410 and that's exactly what this is is a warning. 794 00:41:03,415 --> 00:41:08,416 These are the three reasons that this needs to stop. 795 00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:13,725 I mean, this thing, it kills people. 796 00:41:18,738 --> 00:41:20,105 I want it away from us. 797 00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:26,982 If I can change whatever's causing the pain 798 00:41:26,987 --> 00:41:29,953 and then start to get healthy again, 799 00:41:29,958 --> 00:41:31,758 get off the medication. 800 00:41:33,963 --> 00:41:36,860 It's gonna take some work. We've got some work to do. 801 00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:40,166 You think you're gonna be able to handle this? 802 00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:42,035 Mm-hmm. 803 00:41:42,038 --> 00:41:44,771 I'll get it done. 804 00:41:44,776 --> 00:41:46,777 Whatever I need to do, I'll take care of it. 805 00:41:48,784 --> 00:41:51,018 AMY: I really feel for Rhonda, 806 00:41:51,022 --> 00:41:55,158 as the entities terrorizing her family present a serious danger. 807 00:41:55,164 --> 00:41:58,897 But I believe if she cleanses her house of all the dead 808 00:41:58,902 --> 00:42:02,169 and never feeds this demon what it's looking for, 809 00:42:02,174 --> 00:42:04,877 she and her family should live in peace. 810 00:42:04,927 --> 00:42:09,477 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62038

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