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They scare them so bad. 2 00:00:14,727 --> 00:00:16,696 MIKE: Activity has spiked here. 3 00:00:16,698 --> 00:00:18,202 It's higher than it's been in a long time. 4 00:00:18,204 --> 00:00:20,949 They're trapped. 5 00:00:20,951 --> 00:00:23,090 Now they're gonna be tortured. 6 00:00:23,092 --> 00:00:24,364 STEVE: What was her cause of death? 7 00:00:24,366 --> 00:00:26,403 One gunshot wound through the base of the skull. 8 00:00:26,405 --> 00:00:29,278 I feel like hurting people. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,688 I want you to find out who killed Mary Jane. 10 00:00:32,690 --> 00:00:35,897 People have done very bad things 11 00:00:35,899 --> 00:00:38,943 after they've left this place. 12 00:00:38,945 --> 00:00:41,615 Something bad's going to happen. 13 00:00:41,617 --> 00:00:44,519 My name is Amy Allan. 14 00:00:44,521 --> 00:00:45,887 There's panic. 15 00:00:45,889 --> 00:00:47,322 And it's almost like a butchering. 16 00:00:47,324 --> 00:00:48,397 I see dead people. 17 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:50,538 They all died horribly. 18 00:00:50,540 --> 00:00:52,243 I speak to dead people. 19 00:00:52,245 --> 00:00:53,654 Get out of here. 20 00:00:53,656 --> 00:00:55,289 And they speak to me. 21 00:00:55,291 --> 00:00:57,325 Vicious. 22 00:00:57,327 --> 00:01:00,470 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 23 00:01:00,472 --> 00:01:02,172 It doesn't matter where you are. I'll find you. 24 00:01:02,174 --> 00:01:03,740 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:03,742 --> 00:01:05,375 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 26 00:01:05,377 --> 00:01:07,278 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 27 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,983 This guy's a real piece of work. 28 00:01:08,985 --> 00:01:12,659 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 29 00:01:12,661 --> 00:01:14,162 I feel like I live in a house of Hell. 30 00:01:14,164 --> 00:01:15,332 It's my job to reveal them. 31 00:01:15,334 --> 00:01:17,605 This is not good. 32 00:01:17,607 --> 00:01:19,343 But Steve and I never speak... 33 00:01:19,345 --> 00:01:21,381 We never communicate during an investigation. 34 00:01:21,383 --> 00:01:23,149 Until the very end... 35 00:01:23,151 --> 00:01:24,619 I want my life back. 36 00:01:24,621 --> 00:01:26,857 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 37 00:01:26,859 --> 00:01:28,661 - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs] 38 00:01:28,663 --> 00:01:29,930 Or time to get out. 39 00:01:29,932 --> 00:01:31,435 Oh, my God. 40 00:01:31,437 --> 00:01:33,140 This is going to kill us. 41 00:01:34,220 --> 00:01:38,408 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 42 00:01:46,141 --> 00:01:50,980 STEVE: I'm in Oregon, Illinois, about 100 miles west of Chicago. 43 00:01:50,982 --> 00:01:53,352 I got a call from a former mayor of the town 44 00:01:53,354 --> 00:01:54,856 who owns a restaurant there. 45 00:01:54,858 --> 00:01:56,692 He told me his place is haunted, 46 00:01:56,694 --> 00:01:59,264 and that his employees and customers are scared, 47 00:01:59,266 --> 00:02:01,403 but that's not what caught my attention 48 00:02:01,405 --> 00:02:02,638 about this case. 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,876 He thinks the place is being haunted 50 00:02:04,878 --> 00:02:07,881 by an unsolved murder that happened many years ago. 51 00:02:07,883 --> 00:02:09,648 Now, I'm not sure about all that, 52 00:02:09,650 --> 00:02:11,384 but he sounded pretty desperate, 53 00:02:11,386 --> 00:02:13,254 and I'm hoping we can help him out. 54 00:02:19,532 --> 00:02:21,203 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 55 00:02:21,205 --> 00:02:23,340 I need to make sure photos, paintings, 56 00:02:23,342 --> 00:02:26,077 and anything else that could influence her findings 57 00:02:26,079 --> 00:02:27,713 are covered or removed. 58 00:02:27,715 --> 00:02:29,013 When I'm finished, 59 00:02:29,015 --> 00:02:32,085 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 60 00:02:42,763 --> 00:02:44,930 AMY: Okay. 61 00:02:44,932 --> 00:02:48,170 [Door creaks] 62 00:02:48,172 --> 00:02:50,105 Mm. 63 00:02:50,107 --> 00:02:52,275 This place makes you feel 64 00:02:52,277 --> 00:02:57,249 like someone's just come up and punched you in the stomach. 65 00:02:58,118 --> 00:03:02,358 You know, like, you're getting the air knocked out of you, 66 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,394 and you want to just vomit. 67 00:03:04,396 --> 00:03:11,733 That's kind of how it feels here. 68 00:03:11,735 --> 00:03:14,202 I would just get out of here, you know? 69 00:03:14,204 --> 00:03:17,270 There's no hope here. 70 00:03:26,508 --> 00:03:29,178 So, Mike, one of the things we spoke about on the phone 71 00:03:29,180 --> 00:03:31,816 was how intense the activity has gotten in this place. 72 00:03:31,818 --> 00:03:34,517 Give me a rundown what the hell's going on. 73 00:03:34,519 --> 00:03:36,954 Noises, things flying across the room, 74 00:03:36,956 --> 00:03:40,624 shadow figures, people being touched. 75 00:03:40,626 --> 00:03:42,992 We've had customers actually get up and leave. 76 00:03:42,994 --> 00:03:45,127 Okay, are you losing business, you think, 77 00:03:45,129 --> 00:03:47,498 because of some of this stuff that's going on? 78 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:49,266 Of course, it's gone down. 79 00:03:49,268 --> 00:03:51,168 It's not what it used to be. 80 00:03:51,170 --> 00:03:53,269 - I understand you're a former mayor. - Correct. 81 00:03:53,271 --> 00:03:55,072 What year was that? 82 00:03:55,074 --> 00:03:58,045 That was from 1999 to 2003. 83 00:03:58,047 --> 00:04:00,146 When did you buy this place? 84 00:04:00,148 --> 00:04:03,982 I bought the place in 1993. 85 00:04:03,984 --> 00:04:06,051 Okay, so was it a bar and restaurant 86 00:04:06,053 --> 00:04:07,152 when you bought it? 87 00:04:07,154 --> 00:04:08,787 No, it was in a shambles. 88 00:04:08,789 --> 00:04:11,420 Matter of fact, here's a picture of the place. 89 00:04:11,422 --> 00:04:13,021 It was condemned. 90 00:04:15,290 --> 00:04:16,760 So, you have this place over 20 years. 91 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:18,526 Why are you calling us now? 92 00:04:18,528 --> 00:04:19,992 Activity has spiked here. 93 00:04:19,994 --> 00:04:22,494 It's higher than it's been in a long time. 94 00:04:22,496 --> 00:04:24,062 Did anything change? 95 00:04:24,064 --> 00:04:25,895 I moved in here a few years ago, okay, 96 00:04:25,897 --> 00:04:27,995 and I guess I've just become more aware of it 97 00:04:27,997 --> 00:04:32,867 being here 24/7 instead of just 10 hours a day. 98 00:04:32,869 --> 00:04:35,302 You mentioned that you have a theory 99 00:04:35,304 --> 00:04:37,903 about who you think is haunting this place. 100 00:04:37,905 --> 00:04:39,571 It dates back to 1948. 101 00:04:39,573 --> 00:04:41,106 Mary Jane Reed and her date. 102 00:04:41,108 --> 00:04:42,976 They spent their last night alive 103 00:04:42,978 --> 00:04:43,978 in this building. 104 00:04:45,447 --> 00:04:48,245 - This is Mary Jane Reed? - Correct. 105 00:04:51,855 --> 00:04:54,521 I made it my mission to solve this murder. 106 00:04:54,523 --> 00:04:57,432 Is there a cold case unit working on this currently? 107 00:04:57,457 --> 00:04:58,183 No. 108 00:04:58,994 --> 00:05:01,631 You're the cold case unit working on it? 109 00:05:01,633 --> 00:05:03,232 I had the gal's body exhumed. 110 00:05:04,901 --> 00:05:08,838 I've dropped probably $150,000 on it 111 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:11,272 over the past 15 years. 112 00:05:11,274 --> 00:05:13,107 On looking into this case? 113 00:05:13,109 --> 00:05:14,843 - Correct. - [Sighs] 114 00:05:14,845 --> 00:05:18,143 I mean, is that part of the reason you're living here now? 115 00:05:18,145 --> 00:05:19,746 It's the reason I don't have a house anymore. 116 00:05:19,748 --> 00:05:21,182 I'm living here, yes. 117 00:05:21,184 --> 00:05:23,015 Why are you spending this kind of money on a case 118 00:05:23,017 --> 00:05:24,346 that's got nothing to do with you? 119 00:05:24,348 --> 00:05:27,249 Because the family needs closure. 120 00:05:27,251 --> 00:05:29,983 Her spirit needs closure. 121 00:05:29,985 --> 00:05:32,714 So, Mike, I got to ask you, what makes you think 122 00:05:32,716 --> 00:05:35,483 that it's Mary Jane Reed that's here? 123 00:05:35,485 --> 00:05:37,616 If I'm not doing anything, 124 00:05:37,618 --> 00:05:40,586 or if I'm letting my efforts slide, 125 00:05:40,588 --> 00:05:43,653 the paranormal activity here spikes. 126 00:05:43,655 --> 00:05:45,088 I can't let it go. 127 00:05:45,090 --> 00:05:47,624 STEVE: So, I've got a client who's so positive 128 00:05:47,626 --> 00:05:49,760 he knows who's haunting his property, 129 00:05:49,762 --> 00:05:51,761 he's literally spent his life savings 130 00:05:51,763 --> 00:05:52,994 trying to solve a crime 131 00:05:52,996 --> 00:05:55,395 he thinks will put the victim's spirit to rest. 132 00:05:55,397 --> 00:05:57,496 He's even had one of the victims' bodies 133 00:05:57,498 --> 00:05:59,498 exhumed and re-examined by a coroner, 134 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:02,499 and trust me, that's no easy thing to have done. 135 00:06:02,501 --> 00:06:04,969 This case is gonna be an unusual one. 136 00:06:06,241 --> 00:06:08,043 [Door creaks] 137 00:06:08,045 --> 00:06:09,844 AMY: There's a woman. 138 00:06:09,846 --> 00:06:14,349 She looks young, maybe 20s. 139 00:06:14,351 --> 00:06:18,251 Really... nasty. 140 00:06:19,218 --> 00:06:21,421 She is something. 141 00:06:21,423 --> 00:06:23,591 Very physical, very solid. 142 00:06:23,593 --> 00:06:29,399 She can really do 143 00:06:29,401 --> 00:06:33,671 a lot of harm to people physically. 144 00:06:35,208 --> 00:06:37,311 I would assume that people would see her. 145 00:06:37,313 --> 00:06:41,351 She likes to sit by people. That's a big thing for her. 146 00:06:41,353 --> 00:06:43,487 But it's very unnerving. 147 00:06:43,489 --> 00:06:46,859 She's just wicked. 148 00:06:52,297 --> 00:06:54,899 What's going on in this area here? 149 00:06:54,901 --> 00:06:57,569 Well, it was in the lounge area 150 00:06:57,571 --> 00:07:00,671 that I saw this apparition of this young girl. 151 00:07:03,009 --> 00:07:04,642 That was like the third time 152 00:07:04,644 --> 00:07:06,477 that she'd been in the building. 153 00:07:06,479 --> 00:07:07,780 Saw her go out the front door. 154 00:07:07,782 --> 00:07:10,052 I was maybe seven seconds behind her, 155 00:07:10,054 --> 00:07:11,789 and by the time I got to the doorway 156 00:07:11,791 --> 00:07:14,024 and looked the other way, she was gone. 157 00:07:14,026 --> 00:07:16,561 You're sure it wasn't a real person, then? 158 00:07:16,563 --> 00:07:18,331 It sure looked like a real person to me, 159 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:20,433 but how she disappeared after she got out the door 160 00:07:20,435 --> 00:07:22,368 when I followed her out, I don't have a clue. 161 00:07:22,370 --> 00:07:24,103 You think it's this girl, Mary Jane? 162 00:07:24,105 --> 00:07:26,371 I'm thinking that it almost had to be. 163 00:07:26,373 --> 00:07:28,439 Is there anything else you've seen? 164 00:07:28,441 --> 00:07:29,473 The shadows. 165 00:07:29,475 --> 00:07:31,942 You see them out of the corner of your eye, 166 00:07:31,944 --> 00:07:34,443 and you turn your head, and they're gone. 167 00:07:34,445 --> 00:07:35,645 There's no shadows. 168 00:07:35,647 --> 00:07:37,281 You think you see something, 169 00:07:37,283 --> 00:07:39,917 or you feel like you're being watched. 170 00:07:39,919 --> 00:07:41,485 Okay, now, there's a lot of people 171 00:07:41,487 --> 00:07:43,020 that are in and out of this place. 172 00:07:43,022 --> 00:07:44,689 Are you sure it's not being reflected 173 00:07:44,691 --> 00:07:46,291 by another person or living person? 174 00:07:46,293 --> 00:07:48,193 I don't typically see those when we're open. 175 00:07:48,195 --> 00:07:50,663 I mean, if I thought that there was someone around, 176 00:07:50,665 --> 00:07:52,866 and that's what it was, I wouldn't have even brought it up. 177 00:07:56,369 --> 00:08:00,873 AMY: There are these things really just everywhere. 178 00:08:00,875 --> 00:08:05,613 I don't like being here because I feel this is something 179 00:08:05,615 --> 00:08:09,115 that can affect the living very easily. 180 00:08:09,117 --> 00:08:10,985 MATTHEW: Can you describe these things? 181 00:08:10,987 --> 00:08:12,924 They're three-dimensional. 182 00:08:12,926 --> 00:08:16,392 Living people see this dark thing 183 00:08:16,394 --> 00:08:18,361 standing in the doorway. 184 00:08:20,866 --> 00:08:24,737 A dark presence, but it's solid. 185 00:08:24,739 --> 00:08:26,939 Instead of seeing an open doorway, 186 00:08:26,941 --> 00:08:29,774 there's like a solid darkness. 187 00:08:37,255 --> 00:08:39,190 It's worse in here. 188 00:08:39,192 --> 00:08:43,894 It's so [bleep] bad. 189 00:08:45,029 --> 00:08:49,334 This place... 190 00:08:49,336 --> 00:08:51,034 just destroys. 191 00:08:54,973 --> 00:08:56,740 It's so dangerous. 192 00:08:56,742 --> 00:09:03,014 It's hard to focus on, really, anything. 193 00:09:05,851 --> 00:09:10,455 I... I don't understand how these things came here. 194 00:09:10,457 --> 00:09:15,390 It has its roots in Satanism. 195 00:09:15,392 --> 00:09:19,994 It has to do with religion, 196 00:09:19,996 --> 00:09:23,432 but there's nothing religion can do to help. 197 00:09:23,434 --> 00:09:26,001 Do you know where it came from? 198 00:09:26,003 --> 00:09:29,307 Well, like, Hell, you know? 199 00:09:30,410 --> 00:09:31,812 They're from Hell. 200 00:09:44,651 --> 00:09:46,950 STEVE: Something was off when I started interviewing 201 00:09:46,952 --> 00:09:48,586 the employees of Mike's restaurant. 202 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,123 Okay, what did you see? 203 00:09:51,125 --> 00:09:53,824 Maybe a black figure, I don't know. 204 00:09:53,826 --> 00:09:55,760 As I asked them about their experiences, 205 00:09:55,762 --> 00:09:58,229 I got the feeling they were keeping something from me. 206 00:09:58,231 --> 00:10:00,163 There's something that creeps me out here 207 00:10:00,165 --> 00:10:01,798 that I cannot explain. 208 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,033 Like what? 209 00:10:03,035 --> 00:10:04,734 Just all kinds of stuff. 210 00:10:04,736 --> 00:10:06,934 And with over 20 years in law enforcement, 211 00:10:06,936 --> 00:10:09,202 I know when I'm not getting a clear answer. 212 00:10:09,204 --> 00:10:10,803 How long did this last? 213 00:10:10,805 --> 00:10:13,140 I can't really tell you. 214 00:10:13,142 --> 00:10:15,711 You think whatever's here is good or bad? 215 00:10:15,713 --> 00:10:18,144 I... I have no idea. 216 00:10:18,146 --> 00:10:20,146 Finally, I had enough. 217 00:10:20,148 --> 00:10:22,417 It's a little frustrating, I got to be honest with you. 218 00:10:22,419 --> 00:10:24,654 Sounds like something that you guys discussed ahead of time 219 00:10:24,656 --> 00:10:26,057 how you were gonna answer things. 220 00:10:27,127 --> 00:10:30,130 When everybody I'm talking to is that same way, 221 00:10:30,132 --> 00:10:32,633 it's a pattern, and it just, you know, 222 00:10:32,635 --> 00:10:35,202 tells me that something's not right here. 223 00:10:43,479 --> 00:10:44,947 Like, right now, 224 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:48,884 it literally feels like my mind is being erased. 225 00:10:50,687 --> 00:10:53,121 That's what happens to people here. 226 00:10:53,123 --> 00:10:54,756 They're trying to make it 227 00:10:54,758 --> 00:10:57,127 so like I can't figure things out. 228 00:10:57,129 --> 00:11:02,431 Those things... you know, I'm not gonna call 'em demons 229 00:11:02,433 --> 00:11:06,100 'cause they're not demons. 230 00:11:06,102 --> 00:11:08,202 They said "legions." 231 00:11:08,204 --> 00:11:11,709 I don't know what that means. 232 00:11:11,711 --> 00:11:14,979 AMY: Something or someone is trying to confuse me. 233 00:11:14,981 --> 00:11:17,815 I'm hearing that there are legions of demons here, 234 00:11:17,817 --> 00:11:20,152 but that doesn't seem right. 235 00:11:20,154 --> 00:11:22,422 I feel like there are dead people here 236 00:11:22,424 --> 00:11:24,757 who want to talk to me, but they can't. 237 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:27,995 I'm feeling them reaching out. 238 00:11:27,997 --> 00:11:30,733 These things are standing between us. 239 00:11:32,666 --> 00:11:36,403 I feel like I want to scream, I want to cry, 240 00:11:36,405 --> 00:11:40,309 like I want to do all these things, and I can't. 241 00:11:40,311 --> 00:11:43,112 I'm feeling what the living here feel. 242 00:11:43,114 --> 00:11:44,947 It feels like terror. 243 00:11:52,050 --> 00:11:54,085 So, what about experiences that you can't explain 244 00:11:54,087 --> 00:11:55,487 while you've been working here. 245 00:11:55,489 --> 00:11:56,755 - Have you had any? - Yes. 246 00:11:56,757 --> 00:11:58,490 Okay, tell me about some of them. 247 00:11:58,492 --> 00:12:00,359 Yeah, I've seen shadow figures. 248 00:12:00,361 --> 00:12:02,528 That's the only way I can describe it. 249 00:12:02,530 --> 00:12:03,997 Okay, how often? 250 00:12:03,999 --> 00:12:07,301 Probably five times, at least. 251 00:12:07,303 --> 00:12:09,004 So, when you see this shadow thing, 252 00:12:09,006 --> 00:12:11,220 you sure it's not a reflection of a shadow of somebody? 253 00:12:11,245 --> 00:12:11,774 No. 254 00:12:11,776 --> 00:12:15,181 - How are you so sure? - No, I... how could it be a reflection? 255 00:12:15,183 --> 00:12:17,014 I mean, there was nobody here. 256 00:12:17,016 --> 00:12:18,916 Are you uncomfortable working here? 257 00:12:18,918 --> 00:12:23,323 I'm not, in the building itself, but... 258 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:25,992 there's something that's following me home now. 259 00:12:25,994 --> 00:12:28,698 I'm wondering if it's the bad energy, 260 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:30,100 and he doesn't like 261 00:12:30,102 --> 00:12:33,969 that we're talking about all this and stirring things up. 262 00:12:33,971 --> 00:12:36,972 About three or four weeks ago, 263 00:12:36,974 --> 00:12:40,141 about 3:00 in the morning, I was sound asleep, 264 00:12:40,143 --> 00:12:41,844 and the end of my bed... 265 00:12:41,846 --> 00:12:44,549 Pretend like this is the bed, right? 266 00:12:44,551 --> 00:12:46,316 And here's my bedspread. 267 00:12:46,318 --> 00:12:48,449 We're talking a heavy comforter. 268 00:12:48,451 --> 00:12:52,120 It was clawing like this, like this, 269 00:12:52,122 --> 00:12:56,023 and then it took it and went like this. 270 00:12:56,025 --> 00:12:59,628 Scared me to death. 271 00:12:59,630 --> 00:13:01,297 I said it out loud, 272 00:13:01,299 --> 00:13:04,900 "[Bleep], get the [bleep] out of my house." 273 00:13:04,902 --> 00:13:07,835 - Do you have animals in the house? - No animals. 274 00:13:07,837 --> 00:13:09,968 Okay, that had to scare the hell out of you. 275 00:13:09,993 --> 00:13:10,536 It did. 276 00:13:10,538 --> 00:13:11,771 Feel me. 277 00:13:11,773 --> 00:13:13,474 Yeah, you are. You're shaking. 278 00:13:13,476 --> 00:13:15,109 Yeah, I'm shaking. 279 00:13:15,111 --> 00:13:19,313 I don't want to cry, but I'm not sleeping well, 280 00:13:19,315 --> 00:13:22,051 and I'll thank you if I can get some answers. 281 00:13:22,053 --> 00:13:23,419 I just want it to stop. 282 00:13:26,958 --> 00:13:29,728 AMY: Sometimes these dark things that are here 283 00:13:29,730 --> 00:13:31,796 will leave with people. 284 00:13:31,798 --> 00:13:34,698 MATTHEW: They'll stay with them, or they come back? 285 00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:36,601 I don't feel like they come back. 286 00:13:36,603 --> 00:13:38,236 I do feel like they stay with them. 287 00:13:38,238 --> 00:13:42,190 Can they do anything physical to the living? 288 00:13:42,215 --> 00:13:43,507 Yes, it... 289 00:13:43,509 --> 00:13:45,010 [Scoffs] 290 00:13:45,012 --> 00:13:46,812 You know, I think people can be harmed. 291 00:13:46,814 --> 00:13:50,349 I think people could become possessed. 292 00:13:50,351 --> 00:13:54,856 Suggestions being put into people's minds. 293 00:13:54,858 --> 00:13:59,664 This is how they influence, whispering... 294 00:13:59,666 --> 00:14:02,399 [Whispering voices] 295 00:14:02,401 --> 00:14:05,402 Into your mind, 296 00:14:05,404 --> 00:14:09,408 making you do bad things to people. 297 00:14:09,410 --> 00:14:13,108 I feel like doing bad things. 298 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:14,844 I feel like hurting people. 299 00:14:16,047 --> 00:14:19,918 Living people have done very bad things 300 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,385 after they've left this place. 301 00:14:24,387 --> 00:14:26,718 Do you know what they want? 302 00:14:28,055 --> 00:14:30,425 Chaos and destruction. 303 00:14:44,548 --> 00:14:47,686 STEVE: Mike is obsessed with this Mary Jane Reed murder case, 304 00:14:47,688 --> 00:14:50,190 and he wanted to show me all the evidence he found. 305 00:14:50,192 --> 00:14:53,659 But honestly, I don't trust civilian investigators. 306 00:14:53,661 --> 00:14:56,528 So, I called on a pro, a retired detective 307 00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:58,564 who has the case file and is gonna walk me through it. 308 00:15:07,006 --> 00:15:09,722 STEVE: So, Bill, I want to start out with a clean slate. 309 00:15:09,822 --> 00:15:11,787 What do you know about this case? 310 00:15:11,789 --> 00:15:14,459 Stanley Skridla. Here's a picture of him. 311 00:15:14,461 --> 00:15:16,891 He's a former Navy Seabee. 312 00:15:17,752 --> 00:15:20,017 June 24, 1948, 313 00:15:20,117 --> 00:15:23,487 he meets up with this young girl, Mary Jane Reed, 314 00:15:23,489 --> 00:15:26,656 and they set up to go on a date. 315 00:15:26,658 --> 00:15:28,758 - Okay. - And they end up at this place 316 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,265 called Alexander's Log Cabin Inn, 317 00:15:31,267 --> 00:15:34,199 - which is a bar. - Okay. 318 00:15:34,201 --> 00:15:36,601 They meet up with a deputy sheriff 319 00:15:36,603 --> 00:15:38,905 by the name of Willard Burright, 320 00:15:38,907 --> 00:15:40,440 better known as "Jiggs" 321 00:15:40,442 --> 00:15:43,079 to most of the people around the area. 322 00:15:43,081 --> 00:15:45,282 He's a 42-year-old married man, 323 00:15:45,284 --> 00:15:46,384 and it's rumored that 324 00:15:46,386 --> 00:15:50,489 he's having an affair with Mary Jane. 325 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:52,060 Okay, if that's the case, 326 00:15:52,062 --> 00:15:54,298 and she walks in with a young guy... 327 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:56,167 The deputy sheriff walks up to them, 328 00:15:56,169 --> 00:15:58,266 and he wants Mary Jane to leave with him. 329 00:15:58,268 --> 00:16:00,568 And she refuses. 330 00:16:00,570 --> 00:16:02,539 They end up in this big argument, 331 00:16:02,541 --> 00:16:04,575 and she ends up slapping the deputy 332 00:16:04,577 --> 00:16:08,278 and then leaves out of there with Skridla. 333 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,145 Okay, so what happens next? 334 00:16:10,147 --> 00:16:12,446 They end up at your client's property, 335 00:16:12,448 --> 00:16:15,051 which was called the Stenhouse back then. 336 00:16:15,053 --> 00:16:16,520 They were gonna go inside, 337 00:16:16,522 --> 00:16:18,021 but according to witnesses, 338 00:16:18,023 --> 00:16:19,488 Stanley gets out of the car, 339 00:16:19,490 --> 00:16:20,622 but all of a sudden, 340 00:16:20,624 --> 00:16:22,358 he stops and gets back in his car, 341 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,626 and they drive off, 342 00:16:23,628 --> 00:16:27,395 and that's the last time that anybody saw them alive. 343 00:16:38,604 --> 00:16:40,171 AMY: [Grunts] 344 00:16:41,339 --> 00:16:43,575 There's people down here. 345 00:16:43,577 --> 00:16:45,246 MATTHEW: Who? 346 00:16:45,248 --> 00:16:46,615 [Humming] 347 00:16:46,617 --> 00:16:51,686 There's a man and this woman. 348 00:16:51,688 --> 00:16:54,889 Two, maybe three people. 349 00:16:59,698 --> 00:17:01,965 Female has brown, curly hair. 350 00:17:01,967 --> 00:17:04,836 She's wearing a dress. 351 00:17:04,838 --> 00:17:08,308 I'm hearing she's up to no good. 352 00:17:08,310 --> 00:17:12,550 They look scared. 353 00:17:16,387 --> 00:17:18,722 I do feel like there was a female victim, 354 00:17:18,724 --> 00:17:21,161 but I also feel like there's a male victim. 355 00:17:21,163 --> 00:17:26,467 Her and this man knew each other, 356 00:17:26,469 --> 00:17:28,804 possibly killed either at the same time 357 00:17:28,806 --> 00:17:31,069 or very [bleep] close. 358 00:17:33,406 --> 00:17:35,309 When they left the Stenhouse, 359 00:17:35,311 --> 00:17:37,845 they left somewhere just before midnight, 360 00:17:37,847 --> 00:17:41,313 and witnesses said that they were being followed 361 00:17:41,315 --> 00:17:42,915 by an older model car 362 00:17:42,917 --> 00:17:45,552 with two pretty good-sized guys in there. 363 00:17:45,554 --> 00:17:49,690 And they went to a very popular make-out area 364 00:17:49,692 --> 00:17:51,592 called Lover's Lane. 365 00:17:51,594 --> 00:17:53,527 Okay. 366 00:17:53,529 --> 00:17:57,230 Stanley's body was actually found there the next morning, 367 00:17:57,232 --> 00:17:59,167 - lying in a ditch. - Really? 368 00:17:59,169 --> 00:18:01,972 I have a picture here of the crime scene. 369 00:18:01,974 --> 00:18:05,476 And what was his cause of death? 370 00:18:05,478 --> 00:18:06,810 Multiple gunshot wounds 371 00:18:06,812 --> 00:18:10,382 - to his abdomen, his chest... - Geez. 372 00:18:10,384 --> 00:18:12,184 His groin, his arm. 373 00:18:12,186 --> 00:18:14,821 But there was another report that indicated 374 00:18:14,823 --> 00:18:17,393 that he had one gunshot wound to his back. 375 00:18:17,395 --> 00:18:19,664 Okay, where's Mary Jane? 376 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:23,267 Mary Jane's body was found four days later, 377 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:28,373 and she's about a mile away from where Skridla was found. 378 00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:32,043 - Okay. - This is a picture of her crime scene. 379 00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:34,713 And what was her cause of death? 380 00:18:34,715 --> 00:18:38,081 One gunshot wound through the base of the skull. 381 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:41,084 All right, so it sounds like 382 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:43,820 whoever did these murders killed him first, 383 00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:46,154 and then later on killed her 384 00:18:46,156 --> 00:18:47,889 and then dumped her body in a different spot. 385 00:18:47,989 --> 00:18:49,324 Right. 386 00:18:50,792 --> 00:18:53,861 Somebody's hitting me on the back. 387 00:18:53,863 --> 00:18:56,761 Upper left of my back. 388 00:18:56,763 --> 00:18:58,095 Someone's hitting me there, 389 00:18:58,097 --> 00:18:59,797 hitting me there, hitting me there, 390 00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:01,465 falling down on the ground, 391 00:19:01,467 --> 00:19:02,600 but it's dark. 392 00:19:02,602 --> 00:19:04,499 I don't know if it's actually down here. 393 00:19:04,501 --> 00:19:05,600 Might be outside. 394 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,740 I think it's like a sneak attack. 395 00:19:11,742 --> 00:19:14,408 Someone hits the... hits the [bleep] ground. 396 00:19:16,476 --> 00:19:18,342 Mm. 397 00:19:18,344 --> 00:19:21,245 There's a lot of pain here. 398 00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:25,482 I do feel stabbing-like sensations. 399 00:19:25,484 --> 00:19:30,182 Neck area, chest area, and the back. 400 00:19:30,184 --> 00:19:33,186 It's like sharp pains. 401 00:19:33,188 --> 00:19:36,924 I feel this being crushed. 402 00:19:36,926 --> 00:19:39,592 Mm, to the throat. 403 00:19:39,594 --> 00:19:42,996 I think the female's with the neck. 404 00:19:42,998 --> 00:19:45,297 I think the male is to the back. 405 00:19:48,437 --> 00:19:50,771 Now, I know this is an unsolved double homicide, 406 00:19:50,773 --> 00:19:52,936 but was anybody ever charged in this case? 407 00:19:52,938 --> 00:19:54,304 There were no arrests made, 408 00:19:54,306 --> 00:19:56,542 but there's two possibilities in this case. 409 00:19:56,544 --> 00:20:00,212 Well, first, there was Jiggs, the deputy sheriff. 410 00:20:00,214 --> 00:20:02,279 - Okay, for obvious reasons. - Yes. 411 00:20:02,281 --> 00:20:03,879 Why wasn't he ever charged? 412 00:20:03,881 --> 00:20:05,951 Well, there's a couple interesting points about that. 413 00:20:05,953 --> 00:20:07,819 He was actually the detective 414 00:20:07,821 --> 00:20:10,887 - that was heading up the investigation. - [Laughs] 415 00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:13,663 Okay, there's a little conflict of interest there. 416 00:20:13,688 --> 00:20:14,357 Yeah. 417 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,324 And all the evidence that was brought out against him 418 00:20:17,326 --> 00:20:19,593 - was strictly circumstantial. - Okay. 419 00:20:19,595 --> 00:20:20,926 Now, what about the two guys 420 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:22,595 following them out of the parking lot? 421 00:20:22,597 --> 00:20:24,230 Those are the other two suspects. 422 00:20:24,232 --> 00:20:27,458 In 1948, a guy by the name of Harry Deshazo... 423 00:20:27,483 --> 00:20:28,264 Okay. 424 00:20:28,266 --> 00:20:32,173 Shows up at the sheriff's office and tries to confess. 425 00:20:32,175 --> 00:20:34,707 Oh. He tells the sheriff's department 426 00:20:34,709 --> 00:20:37,876 that he and his brother, Perry, 427 00:20:37,878 --> 00:20:42,313 followed them to Lover's Lane and were going to rob them, 428 00:20:42,315 --> 00:20:45,745 but Harry says that this robbery went bad, 429 00:20:45,747 --> 00:20:48,950 and Perry ends up shooting the two victims. 430 00:20:48,952 --> 00:20:50,418 That's interesting. 431 00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:52,753 Why would the sheriff sit on that? 432 00:20:52,755 --> 00:20:54,321 - We don't know. - Wow. 433 00:20:54,323 --> 00:20:56,157 I don't know if we'll ever know. 434 00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:06,297 There's these three people who might be involved. 435 00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:08,297 With? 436 00:21:08,299 --> 00:21:11,032 This situation, 437 00:21:11,034 --> 00:21:13,735 which is, I think, two men and one woman. 438 00:21:13,737 --> 00:21:15,907 Okay. 439 00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:17,941 Then I'm getting a completely other image 440 00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,311 of a guy standing with a double-barrel shotgun... 441 00:21:22,551 --> 00:21:23,617 holding it on someone... 442 00:21:23,619 --> 00:21:25,719 I don't see who... 443 00:21:25,721 --> 00:21:30,395 and in a rage. 444 00:21:30,397 --> 00:21:33,765 They're trying to 445 00:21:33,767 --> 00:21:36,135 communicate to me what happened. 446 00:21:39,376 --> 00:21:41,446 Oh, [bleep] 447 00:21:41,448 --> 00:21:44,048 You okay? 448 00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:46,451 No, no, no. No, no, no. 449 00:22:06,234 --> 00:22:08,167 Surprisingly, Mary Jane Reed's brother 450 00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:09,968 is still alive and living in town, 451 00:22:09,970 --> 00:22:13,499 so I reached out to him, and he agreed to talk to me. 452 00:22:13,501 --> 00:22:15,666 He said his sister's murder 453 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,700 ended up destroying their family. 454 00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:30,206 I know it's been a very long time, 455 00:22:30,208 --> 00:22:31,989 but my condolences on your sister's death. 456 00:22:32,014 --> 00:22:32,941 WARREN: Thank you. 457 00:22:32,943 --> 00:22:35,843 Mary Jane kind of was my pride and joy, 458 00:22:35,845 --> 00:22:38,446 and she took very good care of me. 459 00:22:38,448 --> 00:22:40,450 How did you take it? 460 00:22:40,452 --> 00:22:42,482 Oh, I... I did my share of bawling. 461 00:22:42,484 --> 00:22:45,318 I missed her very much. 462 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,988 What about the murder itself? 463 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:49,521 Are you still concerned about finding out who did it? 464 00:22:49,523 --> 00:22:52,757 I really believe it was the sheriff. 465 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:54,896 Jiggs was his name, right? 466 00:22:54,898 --> 00:22:57,598 Jiggs Burright, yes. 467 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,136 Every now and then, he would just stop 468 00:23:00,138 --> 00:23:03,269 and just sit there in his car and look over at us. 469 00:23:03,271 --> 00:23:05,336 Really? 470 00:23:05,338 --> 00:23:07,137 Did you think he was obsessed with your sister? 471 00:23:07,139 --> 00:23:11,942 Yes, and I also believe that he was very jealous of her. 472 00:23:11,944 --> 00:23:14,010 Now, why do you say that? 473 00:23:14,012 --> 00:23:16,344 'Cause if she was with someone else, 474 00:23:16,346 --> 00:23:18,947 it seemed like he got upset with her. 475 00:23:23,019 --> 00:23:24,819 AMY: These scary people, 476 00:23:24,821 --> 00:23:27,458 it's very difficult for them to come out 477 00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:32,229 because there are things 478 00:23:32,231 --> 00:23:36,468 that are trying to prevent that from happening. 479 00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:38,571 The problem here is that 480 00:23:38,573 --> 00:23:42,712 the dead aren't allowed to speak, 481 00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:46,314 and really, the living aren't, either. 482 00:23:46,316 --> 00:23:53,183 These evil [bleep] are trying desperately to maintain control, 483 00:23:53,185 --> 00:23:55,318 keeping everybody trapped. 484 00:23:57,955 --> 00:24:01,222 Now they're gonna be tortured, see? 485 00:24:01,224 --> 00:24:02,288 What does that mean? 486 00:24:05,528 --> 00:24:08,427 They're... gonna... 487 00:24:10,529 --> 00:24:12,264 make it bad for them. 488 00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:17,767 STEVE: Do you remember anything 489 00:24:17,769 --> 00:24:19,870 about the day you found out about your sister? 490 00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:21,838 WARREN: Yes, I do, very clear. 491 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,172 I'll never forget it. 492 00:24:23,174 --> 00:24:25,706 I was 6 at the time, 493 00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,343 and two detectives came to the house, 494 00:24:28,345 --> 00:24:30,578 and my mother opened the door, 495 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:34,051 and I was standing there with her, holding her hand. 496 00:24:34,053 --> 00:24:36,420 - Okay. - They said, "Mrs. Reed, 497 00:24:36,422 --> 00:24:38,591 "we got very bad news for you. 498 00:24:38,593 --> 00:24:41,696 We found Mary Jane. She was murdered." 499 00:24:42,964 --> 00:24:47,867 And I felt my mother's knees just weakening. 500 00:24:47,869 --> 00:24:51,539 I thought she was gonna fall. 501 00:24:51,541 --> 00:24:53,842 And one of the officers kind of got a hold of her 502 00:24:53,844 --> 00:24:55,310 and held her up for a while. 503 00:24:55,312 --> 00:24:58,718 Now, you had mentioned that... on the phone... 504 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,688 - things got really bad at home after that. - Very bad. 505 00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:03,690 What happened? 506 00:25:03,692 --> 00:25:05,693 They ended up sending her down 507 00:25:05,695 --> 00:25:09,431 to East Moline State Hospital at that time. 508 00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:12,201 She was there over a year. 509 00:25:12,203 --> 00:25:13,737 After the year that she was there, 510 00:25:13,739 --> 00:25:14,905 did it help her any? 511 00:25:14,907 --> 00:25:18,545 She wasn't quite as nervous as she was prior, 512 00:25:18,547 --> 00:25:24,646 but yet... she wasn't herself, either. 513 00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,448 This is a picture of my father and mother 514 00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,582 on their 50th wedding anniversary. 515 00:25:29,584 --> 00:25:32,151 Your mom looks sad in this photo. 516 00:25:32,153 --> 00:25:35,192 So does your father, actually. 517 00:25:35,194 --> 00:25:38,733 Well, see, I made a promise to her before she died. 518 00:25:38,735 --> 00:25:42,306 She looked me in the eye, and she said, 519 00:25:42,308 --> 00:25:46,778 "There's one thing I want you to do for me. 520 00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:50,917 I want you to find out who killed Mary Jane." 521 00:25:50,919 --> 00:25:55,557 I looked her in the eye, and I said, "I'll try, mother." 522 00:26:05,203 --> 00:26:08,106 AMY: I saw several entities during my walk, 523 00:26:08,108 --> 00:26:10,578 but the murdered woman in the basement 524 00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:12,180 had me the most concerned. 525 00:26:12,182 --> 00:26:15,987 When I initially met her, she was kind of crouched down. 526 00:26:15,989 --> 00:26:19,926 She's white, darker brown hair. 527 00:26:19,928 --> 00:26:24,433 Her face was more round, pretty delicate. 528 00:26:24,435 --> 00:26:26,366 How old would you say she was? 529 00:26:26,368 --> 00:26:28,798 18 to 23. 530 00:26:33,835 --> 00:26:35,835 Is this what you saw? 531 00:26:35,837 --> 00:26:37,838 Yes, that's what I saw. 532 00:26:57,712 --> 00:27:00,248 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 533 00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:01,820 we're ready to reveal our findings 534 00:27:01,822 --> 00:27:05,289 to each other and our clients for the first time. 535 00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:06,823 Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Mike. 536 00:27:06,825 --> 00:27:08,525 He owns this place. 537 00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:11,360 He's not our typical client for two reasons. 538 00:27:11,362 --> 00:27:13,795 One, he used to be the mayor here, 539 00:27:13,797 --> 00:27:17,598 and two, he thinks he knows who's haunting his business. 540 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,532 I mean, as the night goes by, 541 00:27:19,534 --> 00:27:21,933 we'll find out if you're right or not. 542 00:27:21,935 --> 00:27:24,201 This is Marge. She's been working here a long, long time. 543 00:27:24,203 --> 00:27:26,569 Now that the activity's gotten much, much worse, 544 00:27:26,571 --> 00:27:28,372 she's pretty scared for her own safety. 545 00:27:28,374 --> 00:27:31,173 Now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, 546 00:27:31,175 --> 00:27:36,209 I'm just gonna have her describe her walk for us. 547 00:27:36,211 --> 00:27:38,078 AMY: I went down into the basement, 548 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,288 and I didn't really like it down there very much. 549 00:27:44,290 --> 00:27:46,923 I felt very unwelcome. 550 00:27:48,892 --> 00:27:51,461 And after a minute, 551 00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:55,100 I saw three people hunched down there, 552 00:27:55,102 --> 00:27:57,738 and it was two men and one woman. 553 00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:00,076 Somehow, they know each other. 554 00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:01,778 I don't know how, but there... 555 00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:03,813 there's a familiarity there between them. 556 00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:09,183 And she was indicating that she had been murdered. 557 00:28:11,018 --> 00:28:14,855 And it seemed like she and the man she knew 558 00:28:14,857 --> 00:28:18,124 either died at the same time or very close to each other. 559 00:28:18,126 --> 00:28:21,890 She was wearing a nice dress. It was kind of dusk. 560 00:28:21,892 --> 00:28:25,862 Amy, I got a pretty good idea of what you saw. 561 00:28:25,864 --> 00:28:28,563 It's one of the main reasons we're here. 562 00:28:28,565 --> 00:28:30,564 Back in 1948, there was a double homicide. 563 00:28:30,566 --> 00:28:32,932 The victims were Mary Jane Reed 564 00:28:32,934 --> 00:28:35,904 and a guy named Stanley Skridla. 565 00:28:35,906 --> 00:28:37,337 This is Mary Jane. 566 00:28:41,476 --> 00:28:43,711 Here's a picture of Stanley. 567 00:28:43,713 --> 00:28:46,817 Stanley was 28 years old. She was 17. 568 00:28:46,819 --> 00:28:49,854 Now, she went on a date with Stanley that night, 569 00:28:49,856 --> 00:28:51,322 first time. 570 00:28:51,324 --> 00:28:52,892 The last place they were seen alive 571 00:28:52,894 --> 00:28:55,063 was actually in the parking lot of this restaurant. 572 00:28:57,433 --> 00:28:59,168 Mike is very fixated on this case. 573 00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:00,403 He thinks it's the reason 574 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,205 the restaurant is actually haunted. 575 00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:05,675 I've been working on it since 1999 576 00:29:05,677 --> 00:29:07,543 when I was elected mayor. 577 00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:14,018 I've spent tons of money and hundreds of hours. 578 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:15,886 He's actually lost his house over it, 579 00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:18,356 - that's how much this case means to him. - Right. 580 00:29:18,358 --> 00:29:20,792 Now, did you get a good look of anybody down there? 581 00:29:20,794 --> 00:29:23,493 Yes, I had a sketch done 582 00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:26,498 of the female that I saw in the basement. 583 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,100 I got to see this. 584 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,606 Wow. 585 00:29:36,777 --> 00:29:38,077 Yeah. 586 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,846 You guys tell me. 587 00:29:46,323 --> 00:29:47,922 That's awful close, Amy. 588 00:29:47,924 --> 00:29:52,928 Look at the cheek line right here, the eyebrows. 589 00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:54,196 It's close enough for me. 590 00:29:54,198 --> 00:29:55,898 All right, let me ask you a question. 591 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,767 You get any idea of how these people died 592 00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:59,268 that were in the basement? 593 00:29:59,270 --> 00:30:02,774 I think it happened outside at night. 594 00:30:02,776 --> 00:30:04,942 The female indicated to me 595 00:30:04,944 --> 00:30:09,180 something with the throat area, very painful. 596 00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:11,114 What about the man? 597 00:30:11,116 --> 00:30:13,150 I felt impact in my back. 598 00:30:13,152 --> 00:30:16,954 I felt the falling sensation, 599 00:30:16,956 --> 00:30:19,890 hit... my face hitting the gravel, 600 00:30:19,892 --> 00:30:22,260 so it was something, a dirt road. 601 00:30:22,262 --> 00:30:24,028 It was like a sneak attack. 602 00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:25,563 They either died together, 603 00:30:25,565 --> 00:30:28,467 or they died very close together. 604 00:30:28,469 --> 00:30:30,138 Wow. 605 00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:31,074 Dead on. 606 00:30:31,076 --> 00:30:32,575 I'm very impressed, 607 00:30:32,577 --> 00:30:34,777 Needless to say.. 608 00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:37,247 This is the million-dollar question here. 609 00:30:37,249 --> 00:30:39,917 Any indication of who might have killed them? 610 00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:43,218 She kind of indicated that it was two males. 611 00:30:45,790 --> 00:30:48,990 So, this is gonna make a lot more sense to you, I think, 612 00:30:48,992 --> 00:30:51,323 once I lay out the rest of the evening 613 00:30:51,325 --> 00:30:54,063 that Stanley and Mary Jane were killed. 614 00:30:54,065 --> 00:30:54,999 Okay. 615 00:30:55,001 --> 00:30:56,832 Stanley picked her up at work. 616 00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:58,300 They went out on the town. 617 00:30:58,302 --> 00:31:01,502 They wound up at a tavern called Alexander's Log Cabin Inn. 618 00:31:01,504 --> 00:31:02,936 They ran into this guy. 619 00:31:02,938 --> 00:31:06,007 I got a photo here of Deputy Sheriff Willard Burright, 620 00:31:06,009 --> 00:31:07,308 also known as "Jiggs." 621 00:31:09,543 --> 00:31:10,677 Oh. 622 00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:14,083 Apparently, and this is documented 623 00:31:14,085 --> 00:31:16,085 in police reports from the time 624 00:31:16,087 --> 00:31:18,688 that they were having an affair. 625 00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:20,823 Jiggs was a 42-year-old married man. 626 00:31:20,825 --> 00:31:23,262 Mary Jane was 17. 627 00:31:23,264 --> 00:31:24,895 [Gasps] 628 00:31:24,897 --> 00:31:27,362 Now, when I spoke to Mary Jane's brother, 629 00:31:27,364 --> 00:31:28,530 who is still alive, 630 00:31:28,532 --> 00:31:30,200 he was maybe 6 at the time. 631 00:31:30,202 --> 00:31:31,837 He used to see him come by 632 00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,372 and just stand outside in the radio car 633 00:31:34,374 --> 00:31:36,440 and stare at her in the backyard. 634 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:39,279 Oh. 635 00:31:39,281 --> 00:31:43,450 So, he sees her with Stanley, 636 00:31:43,452 --> 00:31:45,019 and he gets upset. 637 00:31:45,021 --> 00:31:47,090 They got into an altercation. 638 00:31:47,092 --> 00:31:49,126 She wound up smacking him 'cause he kept saying, 639 00:31:49,128 --> 00:31:50,992 "I want you to come with me, come with me." 640 00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:53,063 She's, like, "No, leave me alone"... smacks him. 641 00:31:53,065 --> 00:31:54,795 Stanley and Mary Jane leave. 642 00:31:54,797 --> 00:31:56,562 Now, the next spot the two of them came to 643 00:31:56,564 --> 00:31:58,897 is this place, which was known as the Stenhouse back then. 644 00:31:58,899 --> 00:32:01,266 They pull up to get into the parking lot. 645 00:32:01,268 --> 00:32:04,870 Stanley gets out, and for some reason, 646 00:32:04,872 --> 00:32:08,372 he gets back in and takes off. 647 00:32:08,374 --> 00:32:09,742 We don't know if something spooked him. 648 00:32:09,744 --> 00:32:11,045 According to witnesses, 649 00:32:11,047 --> 00:32:13,448 they said they were followed by two big guys in a car. 650 00:32:14,315 --> 00:32:16,217 There's a place called Lover's Lane 651 00:32:16,219 --> 00:32:17,352 like most towns have. 652 00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:19,323 It's about a mile from here. 653 00:32:19,325 --> 00:32:22,191 Next morning, they find Stanley's body facedown. 654 00:32:22,193 --> 00:32:23,692 He was shot four times... 655 00:32:23,694 --> 00:32:26,464 three in the front, one in the back. 656 00:32:26,466 --> 00:32:30,699 That's Stanley's death certificate here. 657 00:32:30,701 --> 00:32:32,736 Now, four days later, 658 00:32:32,738 --> 00:32:37,877 Mary Jane's body was found about a mile away in a ditch. 659 00:32:39,412 --> 00:32:40,478 Now, when she's found, 660 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,378 she's found with a single gunshot wound 661 00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:43,547 to the back of the head. 662 00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:45,516 Now, I got her death certificate here. 663 00:32:48,282 --> 00:32:50,118 Now, here's where it gets really interesting. 664 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,988 About 10 years ago, Mike had the body exhumed. 665 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:53,457 Okay. 666 00:32:53,459 --> 00:32:55,456 He was hoping to find some clues about the murder. 667 00:32:55,458 --> 00:32:57,991 Now, you said you thought she suffered a neck injury. 668 00:32:57,993 --> 00:33:00,528 A couple of the anthropologists that looked at the body 669 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:02,364 thought that the head was decapitated. 670 00:33:03,566 --> 00:33:05,499 Oh, my God. 671 00:33:05,501 --> 00:33:07,772 Here's the skull that they exhumed. 672 00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:14,178 Right. 673 00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:15,846 Now, Amy, you got to understand something. 674 00:33:15,848 --> 00:33:16,913 This case was never solved, 675 00:33:16,915 --> 00:33:18,382 but according to the police reports, 676 00:33:18,384 --> 00:33:19,717 there were a couple of suspects. 677 00:33:19,719 --> 00:33:21,420 One of 'em was Jiggs. 678 00:33:21,422 --> 00:33:23,955 Mike is convinced he did this. 679 00:33:23,957 --> 00:33:25,556 Am I right? 680 00:33:25,558 --> 00:33:30,529 He is a person of interest beyond a shadow of a doubt. 681 00:33:30,531 --> 00:33:33,432 Who I think it is is this guy. 682 00:33:34,301 --> 00:33:36,001 This is Perry Deshazo. 683 00:33:36,003 --> 00:33:38,102 Remember those two guys witnesses saw 684 00:33:38,104 --> 00:33:39,303 following the couple? 685 00:33:39,305 --> 00:33:41,472 I think he was one of 'em. 686 00:33:41,474 --> 00:33:45,172 Perry's brother, Harry, went to the ex-sheriff 687 00:33:45,174 --> 00:33:47,976 trying to basically confess to the crime. 688 00:33:47,978 --> 00:33:52,312 He admitted that they went to go rob Mary Jane and Stanley. 689 00:33:52,314 --> 00:33:55,412 Went bad. Stanley fought back, got shot. 690 00:33:55,414 --> 00:33:56,815 Mary's a witness. 691 00:33:56,817 --> 00:33:58,949 They shoot her in the back of the head, 692 00:33:58,951 --> 00:34:00,815 and they dump both their bodies. 693 00:34:00,817 --> 00:34:02,083 Now, for some reason, 694 00:34:02,085 --> 00:34:05,019 the ex-sheriff they told sat on this information. 695 00:34:05,021 --> 00:34:07,386 These guys were never arrested. 696 00:34:07,388 --> 00:34:09,521 And you don't think it's possible 697 00:34:09,523 --> 00:34:12,292 that this could have been orchestrated by him? 698 00:34:12,294 --> 00:34:13,760 Cops know what they're doing. 699 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:15,161 I'm curious what you think. 700 00:34:15,163 --> 00:34:17,729 I know what I think. I'm curious what you think. 701 00:34:17,731 --> 00:34:19,598 Well, I know it was definitely two men. 702 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,673 I know that the man 703 00:34:23,675 --> 00:34:28,008 who hit and killed the other man 704 00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:29,443 was definitely strong. 705 00:34:29,445 --> 00:34:32,112 The thing that's bothering me, it's, like, 706 00:34:32,114 --> 00:34:35,114 why would I hear, "She's up to no good"? 707 00:34:39,757 --> 00:34:41,159 What else did you see on your walk? 708 00:34:41,161 --> 00:34:42,795 I know we've been harping on this homicide. 709 00:34:42,797 --> 00:34:46,968 There's something else going on here. 710 00:34:48,604 --> 00:34:54,109 I could feel like the dead people wanting to talk 711 00:34:54,111 --> 00:34:57,216 or wanting to reach out to me, but I couldn't. 712 00:34:57,218 --> 00:34:59,416 - The connection could not be made. - Mm-hmm. 713 00:34:59,418 --> 00:35:01,716 The reason for that is, I saw these dark things, 714 00:35:01,718 --> 00:35:03,687 and they were blocking me. 715 00:35:03,689 --> 00:35:05,189 I felt like these things 716 00:35:05,191 --> 00:35:07,558 would definitely be occasionally seen 717 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,830 as far as, like, this feeling of this oppressive darkness. 718 00:35:11,832 --> 00:35:16,571 Yeah, I've seen shadows in the hallway right out front. 719 00:35:16,573 --> 00:35:19,572 The shadows appear out of the corner of your eye, 720 00:35:19,574 --> 00:35:20,672 and then there's nobody there. 721 00:35:20,674 --> 00:35:22,306 Okay, that makes sense. 722 00:35:22,308 --> 00:35:27,150 I felt that this could have a very big impact on the living, 723 00:35:27,152 --> 00:35:29,718 like, both physically and emotionally. 724 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:33,722 I think that people here could lose control over themselves 725 00:35:33,724 --> 00:35:35,590 and not really understand why. 726 00:35:35,592 --> 00:35:38,421 Like, at points, I wanted to just start screaming, 727 00:35:38,423 --> 00:35:39,755 like, with frustration, 728 00:35:39,757 --> 00:35:41,823 and then I wanted to start crying. 729 00:35:41,825 --> 00:35:46,156 These things are also capable of affecting memory. 730 00:35:46,158 --> 00:35:48,857 Anytime I would be on to something, 731 00:35:48,859 --> 00:35:51,226 that's when my mind would be completely erased, 732 00:35:51,228 --> 00:35:52,927 and I couldn't even, 733 00:35:52,929 --> 00:35:55,531 like, recall what I was just thinking. 734 00:35:55,533 --> 00:35:57,233 Oh, my gosh. 735 00:35:57,235 --> 00:35:58,633 And this is how I think 736 00:35:58,635 --> 00:36:00,534 this thing is keeping control 737 00:36:00,536 --> 00:36:02,668 over both the dead and the living. 738 00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:04,938 It's kind of creating a trap. 739 00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:07,442 Could this thing where you're saying it erased the mind 740 00:36:07,444 --> 00:36:08,610 - do that to the living here? - Yes. 741 00:36:08,612 --> 00:36:11,810 So, what I was experiencing with the living, 742 00:36:11,812 --> 00:36:13,179 interviewing them, 743 00:36:13,181 --> 00:36:14,548 to tell you the truth, I was getting pissed. 744 00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:16,916 It felt like I was being lied to. 745 00:36:16,918 --> 00:36:19,886 That's when my cop ears get raised a little. 746 00:36:19,888 --> 00:36:21,955 - Because you think they're lying. - Right. 747 00:36:21,957 --> 00:36:23,958 'Cause you think they're manipulating the truth. 748 00:36:23,983 --> 00:36:24,458 Yes. 749 00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:26,694 Wouldn't a cop want to make another cop think that, 750 00:36:26,696 --> 00:36:28,827 if they were trying to throw them off their trail? 751 00:36:28,852 --> 00:36:29,686 Possibly, yeah. 752 00:36:30,898 --> 00:36:34,198 I'm looking at something here as a possibility. 753 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,135 Now, here's what I was being told could be done 754 00:36:39,137 --> 00:36:41,270 that, you know, people come here, 755 00:36:41,272 --> 00:36:43,704 and that entities can follow them home. 756 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,376 It can cause huge problems for the living. 757 00:36:47,378 --> 00:36:50,807 It's likely their homes will become active. 758 00:36:52,377 --> 00:36:54,146 People could become possessed, 759 00:36:54,148 --> 00:36:57,315 and people could become physically harmed. 760 00:36:57,317 --> 00:36:58,980 Oh, my God. 761 00:36:59,481 --> 00:37:00,648 That's the reason 762 00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:02,218 I asked Marge to sit down with us at the table 763 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,720 because she felt something followed her home. 764 00:37:05,722 --> 00:37:08,456 About a month ago, I went home, 765 00:37:08,458 --> 00:37:11,390 and I was having a dream, 766 00:37:11,392 --> 00:37:15,296 and I was fighting something in this dream. 767 00:37:15,298 --> 00:37:16,729 Well, I actually woke up, 768 00:37:16,731 --> 00:37:18,463 it took the bottom of my bedspread, 769 00:37:18,465 --> 00:37:22,667 and it went like... and it was clawing like this. 770 00:37:22,669 --> 00:37:24,868 And then it took it, and it literally took it like this. 771 00:37:26,337 --> 00:37:28,873 I literally jumped out of that bed screaming. 772 00:37:30,209 --> 00:37:32,143 I was hearing the word "Legion." 773 00:37:32,145 --> 00:37:33,309 "We are the legion," 774 00:37:33,311 --> 00:37:35,644 which is demonic... 775 00:37:35,646 --> 00:37:38,877 but it wasn't adding up for me. 776 00:37:38,879 --> 00:37:41,079 It just wasn't adding up for me as far as it being 777 00:37:41,081 --> 00:37:43,383 a legion of demons running amuck. 778 00:37:43,385 --> 00:37:46,517 STEVE: Then what the hell do you think it is? 779 00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:47,849 I really... 780 00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:49,183 I'm leaning towards the cop. 781 00:38:07,004 --> 00:38:09,235 AMY: I was hearing the word "Legion," 782 00:38:09,237 --> 00:38:11,201 but it wasn't adding up for me. 783 00:38:11,203 --> 00:38:13,605 It just wasn't adding up for me as far as it being 784 00:38:13,607 --> 00:38:16,008 a legion of demons running amuck. 785 00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:19,141 STEVE: Then what the hell do you think it is? 786 00:38:19,143 --> 00:38:20,510 I really... 787 00:38:20,512 --> 00:38:22,178 I'm leaning towards the cop. 788 00:38:25,682 --> 00:38:27,582 I was never convinced 789 00:38:27,584 --> 00:38:31,117 that there were, you know, demons here. 790 00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,351 But somehow Jiggs kind of figured out 791 00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:35,785 - how to throw you off track. - Yes, yes. 792 00:38:35,787 --> 00:38:37,984 - Okay. - Trying to set up the scene 793 00:38:37,986 --> 00:38:40,186 to look like there's demonic [bleep] 794 00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:46,993 And I'm going based on how efficiently 795 00:38:46,995 --> 00:38:51,196 - he is manipulating this place... - This place. 796 00:38:51,198 --> 00:38:53,862 The people in it, me, 797 00:38:53,864 --> 00:38:56,750 you know, to not get to the truth. 798 00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:58,250 _ 799 00:39:00,099 --> 00:39:01,666 So, everything that's going on here... 800 00:39:01,668 --> 00:39:03,268 people getting tugged, 801 00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:07,003 the memory scrubbing, so to speak, 802 00:39:07,005 --> 00:39:09,873 things tossed, followed home, the shadows, 803 00:39:09,875 --> 00:39:12,440 that's all coming from Jiggs? 804 00:39:12,442 --> 00:39:15,241 Yes, that's my belief, yes. 805 00:39:15,243 --> 00:39:17,412 AMY: I believe the police chief 806 00:39:17,414 --> 00:39:19,914 was the mastermind behind these murders, 807 00:39:19,916 --> 00:39:22,384 and in death, he's trapping the victims here 808 00:39:22,386 --> 00:39:25,384 so that the truth about his part in organizing the crime 809 00:39:25,386 --> 00:39:26,918 never gets out. 810 00:39:29,556 --> 00:39:31,559 STEVE: So, Mike, through all these years, 811 00:39:31,561 --> 00:39:33,726 you thought the haunting of your business here 812 00:39:33,728 --> 00:39:35,928 had to do with the Mary Jane Reed murder case, 813 00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:37,530 and amazingly, you were right. 814 00:39:37,532 --> 00:39:38,998 But the other thing is, 815 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,466 you got some pretty vicious entity here 816 00:39:41,468 --> 00:39:42,932 doing some crazy stuff. 817 00:39:42,934 --> 00:39:45,369 So, we know what it is, 818 00:39:45,371 --> 00:39:47,105 but we don't know how to fight it. 819 00:39:47,107 --> 00:39:49,505 So, for that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 820 00:39:53,176 --> 00:39:57,876 So, what I would like you to do is for you 821 00:39:57,878 --> 00:40:02,214 to demand Mary Jane and this man 822 00:40:02,216 --> 00:40:05,848 leave this restaurant with you. 823 00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:08,584 You have to take them away from here. 824 00:40:08,586 --> 00:40:10,755 What I want you to say 825 00:40:10,757 --> 00:40:13,923 is basically that they can go, 826 00:40:13,925 --> 00:40:16,487 that you're releasing them. 827 00:40:16,489 --> 00:40:18,290 They're not gonna feel trapped anymore, 828 00:40:18,292 --> 00:40:23,260 and in all likelihood, they will all go. 829 00:40:23,262 --> 00:40:24,894 Now, let me ask you a question. 830 00:40:24,896 --> 00:40:26,863 Is she aware of what Mike's gone through 831 00:40:26,865 --> 00:40:31,701 - to help try to solve her... - Oh, yes, absolutely. 832 00:40:31,703 --> 00:40:33,435 And I think that might make it 833 00:40:33,437 --> 00:40:35,737 a little bit even harder for her to let go. 834 00:40:35,739 --> 00:40:39,040 But you're gonna be her hero. 835 00:40:42,281 --> 00:40:45,983 The second step is 836 00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:50,114 for a holy man to come in to get rid of him. 837 00:40:50,214 --> 00:40:51,541 The cop. 838 00:40:51,641 --> 00:40:53,710 I want the holy man 839 00:40:53,712 --> 00:40:57,782 to do, like, a blessing and a sermon ceremony... 840 00:40:57,784 --> 00:41:02,787 because he has a root fear of religion. 841 00:41:02,789 --> 00:41:07,192 His thing is about self-preservation. 842 00:41:07,194 --> 00:41:08,860 He doesn't want to go to Hell. 843 00:41:11,796 --> 00:41:13,529 I like her plan. 844 00:41:13,531 --> 00:41:15,732 Are you gonna take Amy's advice on this 845 00:41:15,734 --> 00:41:17,876 and do what she asks? Why, of course. 846 00:41:18,554 --> 00:41:21,014 Anything for peace of mind 847 00:41:21,016 --> 00:41:23,347 and create a safe environment. 848 00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:25,812 And Marge, are you gonna help out with this? 849 00:41:25,814 --> 00:41:29,713 Whatever I can do. Whatever he asks. 850 00:41:29,715 --> 00:41:34,452 How are you gonna feel about letting go of Mary Jane? 851 00:41:34,454 --> 00:41:37,225 Anything that can bring the family closure 852 00:41:37,227 --> 00:41:40,064 and bring her unrested soul closure 853 00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:43,068 is a game winner as far as I'm concerned. 854 00:41:45,706 --> 00:41:48,242 It won't be easy removing the layers of dead people 855 00:41:48,244 --> 00:41:50,545 inside this location, 856 00:41:50,547 --> 00:41:53,478 but if Mike and Marge follow my advice, 857 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,346 the dead will be set free, 858 00:41:55,348 --> 00:41:56,781 and Mike can find peace 859 00:41:56,783 --> 00:42:00,051 knowing he's put a stop to Mary Jane's suffering. 860 00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:04,651 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 63581

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