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They scare the people.
They scare them so bad.
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MIKE: Activity has spiked here.
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It's higher than it's been in a long time.
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They're trapped.
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Now they're gonna be tortured.
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STEVE: What was her cause of death?
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One gunshot wound through
the base of the skull.
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I feel like hurting people.
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I want you to find out who killed Mary Jane.
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People have done very bad things
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after they've left this place.
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Something bad's going to happen.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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There's panic.
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And it's almost like a butchering.
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I see dead people.
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They all died horribly.
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I speak to dead people.
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Get out of here.
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And they speak to me.
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Vicious.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It doesn't matter where you are.
I'll find you.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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This guy's a real piece of work.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I feel like I live in a house of Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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This is not good.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end...
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I want my life back.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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- Is he trying to kill her?
- [Sobs]
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Or time to get out.
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Oh, my God.
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This is going to kill us.
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STEVE: I'm in Oregon, Illinois,
about 100 miles west of Chicago.
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I got a call from a former mayor of the town
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who owns a restaurant there.
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He told me his place is haunted,
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and that his employees
and customers are scared,
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but that's not what caught my attention
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about this case.
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He thinks the place is being haunted
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by an unsolved murder that
happened many years ago.
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Now, I'm not sure about all that,
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but he sounded pretty desperate,
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and I'm hoping we can help him out.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
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I need to make sure photos, paintings,
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and anything else that
could influence her findings
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are covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: Okay.
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[Door creaks]
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Mm.
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This place makes you feel
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like someone's just come up
and punched you in the stomach.
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You know, like,
you're getting the air knocked out of you,
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and you want to just vomit.
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That's kind of how it feels here.
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I would just get out of here, you know?
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There's no hope here.
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So, Mike,
one of the things we spoke about on the phone
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was how intense the activity
has gotten in this place.
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Give me a rundown what the hell's going on.
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Noises, things flying across the room,
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shadow figures, people being touched.
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We've had customers
actually get up and leave.
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Okay, are you losing business, you think,
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because of some of this
stuff that's going on?
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Of course, it's gone down.
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It's not what it used to be.
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- I understand you're a former mayor.
- Correct.
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What year was that?
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That was from 1999 to 2003.
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When did you buy this place?
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I bought the place in 1993.
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Okay, so was it a bar and restaurant
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when you bought it?
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No, it was in a shambles.
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Matter of fact,
here's a picture of the place.
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It was condemned.
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So, you have this place over 20 years.
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Why are you calling us now?
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Activity has spiked here.
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It's higher than it's been in a long time.
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Did anything change?
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I moved in here a few years ago, okay,
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and I guess I've just
become more aware of it
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being here 24/7 instead
of just 10 hours a day.
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You mentioned that you have a theory
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about who you think is haunting this place.
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It dates back to 1948.
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Mary Jane Reed and her date.
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They spent their last night alive
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in this building.
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- This is Mary Jane Reed?
- Correct.
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I made it my mission to solve this murder.
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Is there a cold case unit
working on this currently?
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No.
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You're the cold case unit working on it?
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I had the gal's body exhumed.
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I've dropped probably $150,000 on it
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over the past 15 years.
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On looking into this case?
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- Correct.
- [Sighs]
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I mean, is that part of the
reason you're living here now?
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It's the reason I don't
have a house anymore.
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I'm living here, yes.
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Why are you spending this
kind of money on a case
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that's got nothing to do with you?
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Because the family needs closure.
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Her spirit needs closure.
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So, Mike, I got to ask you,
what makes you think
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that it's Mary Jane Reed that's here?
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If I'm not doing anything,
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or if I'm letting my efforts slide,
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the paranormal activity here spikes.
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I can't let it go.
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STEVE: So,
I've got a client who's so positive
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he knows who's haunting his property,
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he's literally spent his life savings
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trying to solve a crime
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he thinks will put the
victim's spirit to rest.
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He's even had one of the victims' bodies
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exhumed and re-examined by a coroner,
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and trust me,
that's no easy thing to have done.
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This case is gonna be an unusual one.
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[Door creaks]
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AMY: There's a woman.
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She looks young, maybe 20s.
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Really... nasty.
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She is something.
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Very physical, very solid.
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She can really do
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a lot of harm to people physically.
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I would assume that people would see her.
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She likes to sit by people.
That's a big thing for her.
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But it's very unnerving.
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She's just wicked.
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What's going on in this area here?
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Well, it was in the lounge area
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that I saw this apparition
of this young girl.
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That was like the third time
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that she'd been in the building.
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Saw her go out the front door.
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I was maybe seven seconds behind her,
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and by the time I got to the doorway
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and looked the other way, she was gone.
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You're sure it wasn't a real person, then?
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It sure looked like a real person to me,
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but how she disappeared
after she got out the door
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when I followed her out,
I don't have a clue.
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You think it's this girl, Mary Jane?
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I'm thinking that it almost had to be.
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Is there anything else you've seen?
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The shadows.
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You see them out of the corner of your eye,
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and you turn your head, and they're gone.
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There's no shadows.
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You think you see something,
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or you feel like you're being watched.
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Okay, now, there's a lot of people
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that are in and out of this place.
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Are you sure it's not being reflected
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by another person or living person?
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I don't typically see those when we're open.
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I mean,
if I thought that there was someone around,
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and that's what it was,
I wouldn't have even brought it up.
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AMY: There are these things
really just everywhere.
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I don't like being here because
I feel this is something
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that can affect the living very easily.
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MATTHEW: Can you describe these things?
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They're three-dimensional.
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Living people see this dark thing
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standing in the doorway.
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A dark presence, but it's solid.
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Instead of seeing an open doorway,
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there's like a solid darkness.
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It's worse in here.
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It's so [bleep] bad.
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This place...
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just destroys.
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It's so dangerous.
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It's hard to focus on, really, anything.
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I... I don't understand
how these things came here.
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It has its roots in Satanism.
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It has to do with religion,
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but there's nothing religion can do to help.
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Do you know where it came from?
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Well, like, Hell, you know?
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They're from Hell.
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STEVE: Something was off
when I started interviewing
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the employees of Mike's restaurant.
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Okay, what did you see?
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Maybe a black figure, I don't know.
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As I asked them about their experiences,
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I got the feeling they were
keeping something from me.
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There's something that creeps me out here
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that I cannot explain.
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Like what?
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Just all kinds of stuff.
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And with over 20 years in law enforcement,
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I know when I'm not getting a clear answer.
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How long did this last?
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I can't really tell you.
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You think whatever's here is good or bad?
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I... I have no idea.
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Finally, I had enough.
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It's a little frustrating,
I got to be honest with you.
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Sounds like something that you
guys discussed ahead of time
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how you were gonna answer things.
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When everybody I'm talking
to is that same way,
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it's a pattern, and it just, you know,
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tells me that something's not right here.
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Like, right now,
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it literally feels like
my mind is being erased.
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That's what happens to people here.
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They're trying to make it
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so like I can't figure things out.
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Those things... you know,
I'm not gonna call 'em demons
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'cause they're not demons.
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They said "legions."
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I don't know what that means.
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AMY: Something or someone
is trying to confuse me.
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I'm hearing that there are
legions of demons here,
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but that doesn't seem right.
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I feel like there are dead people here
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who want to talk to me, but they can't.
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I'm feeling them reaching out.
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These things are standing between us.
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I feel like I want to scream, I want to cry,
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like I want to do all these things,
and I can't.
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I'm feeling what the living here feel.
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It feels like terror.
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So, what about experiences
that you can't explain
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while you've been working here.
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- Have you had any?
- Yes.
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Okay, tell me about some of them.
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Yeah, I've seen shadow figures.
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That's the only way I can describe it.
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Okay, how often?
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Probably five times, at least.
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So, when you see this shadow thing,
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you sure it's not a reflection
of a shadow of somebody?
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No.
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- How are you so sure?
- No, I... how could it be a reflection?
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I mean, there was nobody here.
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Are you uncomfortable working here?
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I'm not, in the building itself, but...
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there's something that's
following me home now.
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I'm wondering if it's the bad energy,
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and he doesn't like
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that we're talking about all
this and stirring things up.
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About three or four weeks ago,
263
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about 3:00 in the morning,
I was sound asleep,
264
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and the end of my bed...
265
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Pretend like this is the bed, right?
266
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And here's my bedspread.
267
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We're talking a heavy comforter.
268
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It was clawing like this, like this,
269
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and then it took it and went like this.
270
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Scared me to death.
271
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I said it out loud,
272
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"[Bleep], get the [bleep] out of my house."
273
00:13:04,902 --> 00:13:07,835
- Do you have animals in the house?
- No animals.
274
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Okay, that had to scare
the hell out of you.
275
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It did.
276
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Feel me.
277
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Yeah, you are. You're shaking.
278
00:13:13,476 --> 00:13:15,109
Yeah, I'm shaking.
279
00:13:15,111 --> 00:13:19,313
I don't want to cry,
but I'm not sleeping well,
280
00:13:19,315 --> 00:13:22,051
and I'll thank you if
I can get some answers.
281
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I just want it to stop.
282
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AMY:
Sometimes these dark things that are here
283
00:13:29,730 --> 00:13:31,796
will leave with people.
284
00:13:31,798 --> 00:13:34,698
MATTHEW: They'll stay with them,
or they come back?
285
00:13:34,700 --> 00:13:36,601
I don't feel like they come back.
286
00:13:36,603 --> 00:13:38,236
I do feel like they stay with them.
287
00:13:38,238 --> 00:13:42,190
Can they do anything
physical to the living?
288
00:13:42,215 --> 00:13:43,507
Yes, it...
289
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[Scoffs]
290
00:13:45,012 --> 00:13:46,812
You know, I think people can be harmed.
291
00:13:46,814 --> 00:13:50,349
I think people could become possessed.
292
00:13:50,351 --> 00:13:54,856
Suggestions being put into people's minds.
293
00:13:54,858 --> 00:13:59,664
This is how they influence, whispering...
294
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[Whispering voices]
295
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Into your mind,
296
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making you do bad things to people.
297
00:14:09,410 --> 00:14:13,108
I feel like doing bad things.
298
00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:14,844
I feel like hurting people.
299
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Living people have done very bad things
300
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,385
after they've left this place.
301
00:14:24,387 --> 00:14:26,718
Do you know what they want?
302
00:14:28,055 --> 00:14:30,425
Chaos and destruction.
303
00:14:44,548 --> 00:14:47,686
STEVE: Mike is obsessed with
this Mary Jane Reed murder case,
304
00:14:47,688 --> 00:14:50,190
and he wanted to show me
all the evidence he found.
305
00:14:50,192 --> 00:14:53,659
But honestly,
I don't trust civilian investigators.
306
00:14:53,661 --> 00:14:56,528
So, I called on a pro, a retired detective
307
00:14:56,530 --> 00:14:58,564
who has the case file and
is gonna walk me through it.
308
00:15:07,006 --> 00:15:09,722
STEVE: So, Bill,
I want to start out with a clean slate.
309
00:15:09,822 --> 00:15:11,787
What do you know about this case?
310
00:15:11,789 --> 00:15:14,459
Stanley Skridla. Here's a picture of him.
311
00:15:14,461 --> 00:15:16,891
He's a former Navy Seabee.
312
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June 24, 1948,
313
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he meets up with this young girl,
Mary Jane Reed,
314
00:15:23,489 --> 00:15:26,656
and they set up to go on a date.
315
00:15:26,658 --> 00:15:28,758
- Okay.
- And they end up at this place
316
00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,265
called Alexander's Log Cabin Inn,
317
00:15:31,267 --> 00:15:34,199
- which is a bar.
- Okay.
318
00:15:34,201 --> 00:15:36,601
They meet up with a deputy sheriff
319
00:15:36,603 --> 00:15:38,905
by the name of Willard Burright,
320
00:15:38,907 --> 00:15:40,440
better known as "Jiggs"
321
00:15:40,442 --> 00:15:43,079
to most of the people around the area.
322
00:15:43,081 --> 00:15:45,282
He's a 42-year-old married man,
323
00:15:45,284 --> 00:15:46,384
and it's rumored that
324
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he's having an affair with Mary Jane.
325
00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:52,060
Okay, if that's the case,
326
00:15:52,062 --> 00:15:54,298
and she walks in with a young guy...
327
00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:56,167
The deputy sheriff walks up to them,
328
00:15:56,169 --> 00:15:58,266
and he wants Mary Jane to leave with him.
329
00:15:58,268 --> 00:16:00,568
And she refuses.
330
00:16:00,570 --> 00:16:02,539
They end up in this big argument,
331
00:16:02,541 --> 00:16:04,575
and she ends up slapping the deputy
332
00:16:04,577 --> 00:16:08,278
and then leaves out of there with Skridla.
333
00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,145
Okay, so what happens next?
334
00:16:10,147 --> 00:16:12,446
They end up at your client's property,
335
00:16:12,448 --> 00:16:15,051
which was called the Stenhouse back then.
336
00:16:15,053 --> 00:16:16,520
They were gonna go inside,
337
00:16:16,522 --> 00:16:18,021
but according to witnesses,
338
00:16:18,023 --> 00:16:19,488
Stanley gets out of the car,
339
00:16:19,490 --> 00:16:20,622
but all of a sudden,
340
00:16:20,624 --> 00:16:22,358
he stops and gets back in his car,
341
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:23,626
and they drive off,
342
00:16:23,628 --> 00:16:27,395
and that's the last time
that anybody saw them alive.
343
00:16:38,604 --> 00:16:40,171
AMY: [Grunts]
344
00:16:41,339 --> 00:16:43,575
There's people down here.
345
00:16:43,577 --> 00:16:45,246
MATTHEW: Who?
346
00:16:45,248 --> 00:16:46,615
[Humming]
347
00:16:46,617 --> 00:16:51,686
There's a man and this woman.
348
00:16:51,688 --> 00:16:54,889
Two, maybe three people.
349
00:16:59,698 --> 00:17:01,965
Female has brown, curly hair.
350
00:17:01,967 --> 00:17:04,836
She's wearing a dress.
351
00:17:04,838 --> 00:17:08,308
I'm hearing she's up to no good.
352
00:17:08,310 --> 00:17:12,550
They look scared.
353
00:17:16,387 --> 00:17:18,722
I do feel like there was a female victim,
354
00:17:18,724 --> 00:17:21,161
but I also feel like there's a male victim.
355
00:17:21,163 --> 00:17:26,467
Her and this man knew each other,
356
00:17:26,469 --> 00:17:28,804
possibly killed either at the same time
357
00:17:28,806 --> 00:17:31,069
or very [bleep] close.
358
00:17:33,406 --> 00:17:35,309
When they left the Stenhouse,
359
00:17:35,311 --> 00:17:37,845
they left somewhere just before midnight,
360
00:17:37,847 --> 00:17:41,313
and witnesses said that
they were being followed
361
00:17:41,315 --> 00:17:42,915
by an older model car
362
00:17:42,917 --> 00:17:45,552
with two pretty good-sized guys in there.
363
00:17:45,554 --> 00:17:49,690
And they went to a very
popular make-out area
364
00:17:49,692 --> 00:17:51,592
called Lover's Lane.
365
00:17:51,594 --> 00:17:53,527
Okay.
366
00:17:53,529 --> 00:17:57,230
Stanley's body was actually
found there the next morning,
367
00:17:57,232 --> 00:17:59,167
- lying in a ditch.
- Really?
368
00:17:59,169 --> 00:18:01,972
I have a picture here of the crime scene.
369
00:18:01,974 --> 00:18:05,476
And what was his cause of death?
370
00:18:05,478 --> 00:18:06,810
Multiple gunshot wounds
371
00:18:06,812 --> 00:18:10,382
- to his abdomen, his chest...
- Geez.
372
00:18:10,384 --> 00:18:12,184
His groin, his arm.
373
00:18:12,186 --> 00:18:14,821
But there was another report that indicated
374
00:18:14,823 --> 00:18:17,393
that he had one gunshot wound to his back.
375
00:18:17,395 --> 00:18:19,664
Okay, where's Mary Jane?
376
00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:23,267
Mary Jane's body was found four days later,
377
00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:28,373
and she's about a mile away
from where Skridla was found.
378
00:18:28,375 --> 00:18:32,043
- Okay.
- This is a picture of her crime scene.
379
00:18:32,045 --> 00:18:34,713
And what was her cause of death?
380
00:18:34,715 --> 00:18:38,081
One gunshot wound through
the base of the skull.
381
00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:41,084
All right, so it sounds like
382
00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:43,820
whoever did these murders killed him first,
383
00:18:43,822 --> 00:18:46,154
and then later on killed her
384
00:18:46,156 --> 00:18:47,889
and then dumped her
body in a different spot.
385
00:18:47,989 --> 00:18:49,324
Right.
386
00:18:50,792 --> 00:18:53,861
Somebody's hitting me on the back.
387
00:18:53,863 --> 00:18:56,761
Upper left of my back.
388
00:18:56,763 --> 00:18:58,095
Someone's hitting me there,
389
00:18:58,097 --> 00:18:59,797
hitting me there, hitting me there,
390
00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:01,465
falling down on the ground,
391
00:19:01,467 --> 00:19:02,600
but it's dark.
392
00:19:02,602 --> 00:19:04,499
I don't know if it's actually down here.
393
00:19:04,501 --> 00:19:05,600
Might be outside.
394
00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:11,740
I think it's like a sneak attack.
395
00:19:11,742 --> 00:19:14,408
Someone hits the... hits
the [bleep] ground.
396
00:19:16,476 --> 00:19:18,342
Mm.
397
00:19:18,344 --> 00:19:21,245
There's a lot of pain here.
398
00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:25,482
I do feel stabbing-like sensations.
399
00:19:25,484 --> 00:19:30,182
Neck area, chest area, and the back.
400
00:19:30,184 --> 00:19:33,186
It's like sharp pains.
401
00:19:33,188 --> 00:19:36,924
I feel this being crushed.
402
00:19:36,926 --> 00:19:39,592
Mm, to the throat.
403
00:19:39,594 --> 00:19:42,996
I think the female's with the neck.
404
00:19:42,998 --> 00:19:45,297
I think the male is to the back.
405
00:19:48,437 --> 00:19:50,771
Now,
I know this is an unsolved double homicide,
406
00:19:50,773 --> 00:19:52,936
but was anybody ever charged in this case?
407
00:19:52,938 --> 00:19:54,304
There were no arrests made,
408
00:19:54,306 --> 00:19:56,542
but there's two possibilities in this case.
409
00:19:56,544 --> 00:20:00,212
Well, first, there was Jiggs,
the deputy sheriff.
410
00:20:00,214 --> 00:20:02,279
- Okay, for obvious reasons.
- Yes.
411
00:20:02,281 --> 00:20:03,879
Why wasn't he ever charged?
412
00:20:03,881 --> 00:20:05,951
Well, there's a couple
interesting points about that.
413
00:20:05,953 --> 00:20:07,819
He was actually the detective
414
00:20:07,821 --> 00:20:10,887
- that was heading up the investigation.
- [Laughs]
415
00:20:10,889 --> 00:20:13,663
Okay, there's a little
conflict of interest there.
416
00:20:13,688 --> 00:20:14,357
Yeah.
417
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,324
And all the evidence that
was brought out against him
418
00:20:17,326 --> 00:20:19,593
- was strictly circumstantial.
- Okay.
419
00:20:19,595 --> 00:20:20,926
Now, what about the two guys
420
00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:22,595
following them out of the parking lot?
421
00:20:22,597 --> 00:20:24,230
Those are the other two suspects.
422
00:20:24,232 --> 00:20:27,458
In 1948, a guy by the
name of Harry Deshazo...
423
00:20:27,483 --> 00:20:28,264
Okay.
424
00:20:28,266 --> 00:20:32,173
Shows up at the sheriff's
office and tries to confess.
425
00:20:32,175 --> 00:20:34,707
Oh. He tells the sheriff's department
426
00:20:34,709 --> 00:20:37,876
that he and his brother, Perry,
427
00:20:37,878 --> 00:20:42,313
followed them to Lover's Lane
and were going to rob them,
428
00:20:42,315 --> 00:20:45,745
but Harry says that this robbery went bad,
429
00:20:45,747 --> 00:20:48,950
and Perry ends up shooting the two victims.
430
00:20:48,952 --> 00:20:50,418
That's interesting.
431
00:20:50,420 --> 00:20:52,753
Why would the sheriff sit on that?
432
00:20:52,755 --> 00:20:54,321
- We don't know.
- Wow.
433
00:20:54,323 --> 00:20:56,157
I don't know if we'll ever know.
434
00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:06,297
There's these three people
who might be involved.
435
00:21:06,299 --> 00:21:08,297
With?
436
00:21:08,299 --> 00:21:11,032
This situation,
437
00:21:11,034 --> 00:21:13,735
which is, I think, two men and one woman.
438
00:21:13,737 --> 00:21:15,907
Okay.
439
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:17,941
Then I'm getting a completely other image
440
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,311
of a guy standing with a
double-barrel shotgun...
441
00:21:22,551 --> 00:21:23,617
holding it on someone...
442
00:21:23,619 --> 00:21:25,719
I don't see who...
443
00:21:25,721 --> 00:21:30,395
and in a rage.
444
00:21:30,397 --> 00:21:33,765
They're trying to
445
00:21:33,767 --> 00:21:36,135
communicate to me what happened.
446
00:21:39,376 --> 00:21:41,446
Oh, [bleep]
447
00:21:41,448 --> 00:21:44,048
You okay?
448
00:21:44,050 --> 00:21:46,451
No, no, no. No, no, no.
449
00:22:06,234 --> 00:22:08,167
Surprisingly, Mary Jane Reed's brother
450
00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:09,968
is still alive and living in town,
451
00:22:09,970 --> 00:22:13,499
so I reached out to him,
and he agreed to talk to me.
452
00:22:13,501 --> 00:22:15,666
He said his sister's murder
453
00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,700
ended up destroying their family.
454
00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:30,206
I know it's been a very long time,
455
00:22:30,208 --> 00:22:31,989
but my condolences on
your sister's death.
456
00:22:32,014 --> 00:22:32,941
WARREN: Thank you.
457
00:22:32,943 --> 00:22:35,843
Mary Jane kind of was my pride and joy,
458
00:22:35,845 --> 00:22:38,446
and she took very good care of me.
459
00:22:38,448 --> 00:22:40,450
How did you take it?
460
00:22:40,452 --> 00:22:42,482
Oh, I... I did my share of bawling.
461
00:22:42,484 --> 00:22:45,318
I missed her very much.
462
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,988
What about the murder itself?
463
00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:49,521
Are you still concerned
about finding out who did it?
464
00:22:49,523 --> 00:22:52,757
I really believe it was the sheriff.
465
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:54,896
Jiggs was his name, right?
466
00:22:54,898 --> 00:22:57,598
Jiggs Burright, yes.
467
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,136
Every now and then, he would just stop
468
00:23:00,138 --> 00:23:03,269
and just sit there in his
car and look over at us.
469
00:23:03,271 --> 00:23:05,336
Really?
470
00:23:05,338 --> 00:23:07,137
Did you think he was
obsessed with your sister?
471
00:23:07,139 --> 00:23:11,942
Yes, and I also believe that
he was very jealous of her.
472
00:23:11,944 --> 00:23:14,010
Now, why do you say that?
473
00:23:14,012 --> 00:23:16,344
'Cause if she was with someone else,
474
00:23:16,346 --> 00:23:18,947
it seemed like he got upset with her.
475
00:23:23,019 --> 00:23:24,819
AMY: These scary people,
476
00:23:24,821 --> 00:23:27,458
it's very difficult for them to come out
477
00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:32,229
because there are things
478
00:23:32,231 --> 00:23:36,468
that are trying to prevent
that from happening.
479
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:38,571
The problem here is that
480
00:23:38,573 --> 00:23:42,712
the dead aren't allowed to speak,
481
00:23:42,714 --> 00:23:46,314
and really, the living aren't, either.
482
00:23:46,316 --> 00:23:53,183
These evil [bleep] are trying
desperately to maintain control,
483
00:23:53,185 --> 00:23:55,318
keeping everybody trapped.
484
00:23:57,955 --> 00:24:01,222
Now they're gonna be tortured, see?
485
00:24:01,224 --> 00:24:02,288
What does that mean?
486
00:24:05,528 --> 00:24:08,427
They're... gonna...
487
00:24:10,529 --> 00:24:12,264
make it bad for them.
488
00:24:15,633 --> 00:24:17,767
STEVE: Do you remember anything
489
00:24:17,769 --> 00:24:19,870
about the day you found
out about your sister?
490
00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:21,838
WARREN: Yes, I do, very clear.
491
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,172
I'll never forget it.
492
00:24:23,174 --> 00:24:25,706
I was 6 at the time,
493
00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,343
and two detectives came to the house,
494
00:24:28,345 --> 00:24:30,578
and my mother opened the door,
495
00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:34,051
and I was standing there with her,
holding her hand.
496
00:24:34,053 --> 00:24:36,420
- Okay.
- They said, "Mrs. Reed,
497
00:24:36,422 --> 00:24:38,591
"we got very bad news for you.
498
00:24:38,593 --> 00:24:41,696
We found Mary Jane. She was murdered."
499
00:24:42,964 --> 00:24:47,867
And I felt my mother's knees just weakening.
500
00:24:47,869 --> 00:24:51,539
I thought she was gonna fall.
501
00:24:51,541 --> 00:24:53,842
And one of the officers
kind of got a hold of her
502
00:24:53,844 --> 00:24:55,310
and held her up for a while.
503
00:24:55,312 --> 00:24:58,718
Now,
you had mentioned that... on the phone...
504
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,688
- things got really bad at home after that.
- Very bad.
505
00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:03,690
What happened?
506
00:25:03,692 --> 00:25:05,693
They ended up sending her down
507
00:25:05,695 --> 00:25:09,431
to East Moline State Hospital at that time.
508
00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:12,201
She was there over a year.
509
00:25:12,203 --> 00:25:13,737
After the year that she was there,
510
00:25:13,739 --> 00:25:14,905
did it help her any?
511
00:25:14,907 --> 00:25:18,545
She wasn't quite as
nervous as she was prior,
512
00:25:18,547 --> 00:25:24,646
but yet... she wasn't herself, either.
513
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:27,448
This is a picture of my father and mother
514
00:25:27,450 --> 00:25:29,582
on their 50th wedding anniversary.
515
00:25:29,584 --> 00:25:32,151
Your mom looks sad in this photo.
516
00:25:32,153 --> 00:25:35,192
So does your father, actually.
517
00:25:35,194 --> 00:25:38,733
Well, see,
I made a promise to her before she died.
518
00:25:38,735 --> 00:25:42,306
She looked me in the eye, and she said,
519
00:25:42,308 --> 00:25:46,778
"There's one thing I want you to do for me.
520
00:25:46,780 --> 00:25:50,917
I want you to find out
who killed Mary Jane."
521
00:25:50,919 --> 00:25:55,557
I looked her in the eye,
and I said, "I'll try, mother."
522
00:26:05,203 --> 00:26:08,106
AMY: I saw several entities during my walk,
523
00:26:08,108 --> 00:26:10,578
but the murdered woman in the basement
524
00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:12,180
had me the most concerned.
525
00:26:12,182 --> 00:26:15,987
When I initially met her,
she was kind of crouched down.
526
00:26:15,989 --> 00:26:19,926
She's white, darker brown hair.
527
00:26:19,928 --> 00:26:24,433
Her face was more round, pretty delicate.
528
00:26:24,435 --> 00:26:26,366
How old would you say she was?
529
00:26:26,368 --> 00:26:28,798
18 to 23.
530
00:26:33,835 --> 00:26:35,835
Is this what you saw?
531
00:26:35,837 --> 00:26:37,838
Yes, that's what I saw.
532
00:26:57,712 --> 00:27:00,248
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
533
00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:01,820
we're ready to reveal our findings
534
00:27:01,822 --> 00:27:05,289
to each other and our
clients for the first time.
535
00:27:05,291 --> 00:27:06,823
Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Mike.
536
00:27:06,825 --> 00:27:08,525
He owns this place.
537
00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:11,360
He's not our typical client for two reasons.
538
00:27:11,362 --> 00:27:13,795
One, he used to be the mayor here,
539
00:27:13,797 --> 00:27:17,598
and two, he thinks he knows
who's haunting his business.
540
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,532
I mean, as the night goes by,
541
00:27:19,534 --> 00:27:21,933
we'll find out if you're right or not.
542
00:27:21,935 --> 00:27:24,201
This is Marge.
She's been working here a long, long time.
543
00:27:24,203 --> 00:27:26,569
Now that the activity's gotten much,
much worse,
544
00:27:26,571 --> 00:27:28,372
she's pretty scared for her own safety.
545
00:27:28,374 --> 00:27:31,173
Now that Amy knows a little
bit about what's going on,
546
00:27:31,175 --> 00:27:36,209
I'm just gonna have her
describe her walk for us.
547
00:27:36,211 --> 00:27:38,078
AMY: I went down into the basement,
548
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,288
and I didn't really like
it down there very much.
549
00:27:44,290 --> 00:27:46,923
I felt very unwelcome.
550
00:27:48,892 --> 00:27:51,461
And after a minute,
551
00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:55,100
I saw three people hunched down there,
552
00:27:55,102 --> 00:27:57,738
and it was two men and one woman.
553
00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:00,076
Somehow, they know each other.
554
00:28:00,078 --> 00:28:01,778
I don't know how, but there...
555
00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:03,813
there's a familiarity there between them.
556
00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:09,183
And she was indicating
that she had been murdered.
557
00:28:11,018 --> 00:28:14,855
And it seemed like she and the man she knew
558
00:28:14,857 --> 00:28:18,124
either died at the same time
or very close to each other.
559
00:28:18,126 --> 00:28:21,890
She was wearing a nice dress.
It was kind of dusk.
560
00:28:21,892 --> 00:28:25,862
Amy,
I got a pretty good idea of what you saw.
561
00:28:25,864 --> 00:28:28,563
It's one of the main reasons we're here.
562
00:28:28,565 --> 00:28:30,564
Back in 1948, there was a double homicide.
563
00:28:30,566 --> 00:28:32,932
The victims were Mary Jane Reed
564
00:28:32,934 --> 00:28:35,904
and a guy named Stanley Skridla.
565
00:28:35,906 --> 00:28:37,337
This is Mary Jane.
566
00:28:41,476 --> 00:28:43,711
Here's a picture of Stanley.
567
00:28:43,713 --> 00:28:46,817
Stanley was 28 years old. She was 17.
568
00:28:46,819 --> 00:28:49,854
Now,
she went on a date with Stanley that night,
569
00:28:49,856 --> 00:28:51,322
first time.
570
00:28:51,324 --> 00:28:52,892
The last place they were seen alive
571
00:28:52,894 --> 00:28:55,063
was actually in the parking
lot of this restaurant.
572
00:28:57,433 --> 00:28:59,168
Mike is very fixated on this case.
573
00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:00,403
He thinks it's the reason
574
00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,205
the restaurant is actually haunted.
575
00:29:02,207 --> 00:29:05,675
I've been working on it since 1999
576
00:29:05,677 --> 00:29:07,543
when I was elected mayor.
577
00:29:07,545 --> 00:29:14,018
I've spent tons of money
and hundreds of hours.
578
00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:15,886
He's actually lost his house over it,
579
00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:18,356
- that's how much this case means to him.
- Right.
580
00:29:18,358 --> 00:29:20,792
Now, did you get a good
look of anybody down there?
581
00:29:20,794 --> 00:29:23,493
Yes, I had a sketch done
582
00:29:23,495 --> 00:29:26,498
of the female that I saw in the basement.
583
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,100
I got to see this.
584
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,606
Wow.
585
00:29:36,777 --> 00:29:38,077
Yeah.
586
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,846
You guys tell me.
587
00:29:46,323 --> 00:29:47,922
That's awful close, Amy.
588
00:29:47,924 --> 00:29:52,928
Look at the cheek line right here,
the eyebrows.
589
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:54,196
It's close enough for me.
590
00:29:54,198 --> 00:29:55,898
All right, let me ask you a question.
591
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,767
You get any idea of how these people died
592
00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:59,268
that were in the basement?
593
00:29:59,270 --> 00:30:02,774
I think it happened outside at night.
594
00:30:02,776 --> 00:30:04,942
The female indicated to me
595
00:30:04,944 --> 00:30:09,180
something with the throat area,
very painful.
596
00:30:09,182 --> 00:30:11,114
What about the man?
597
00:30:11,116 --> 00:30:13,150
I felt impact in my back.
598
00:30:13,152 --> 00:30:16,954
I felt the falling sensation,
599
00:30:16,956 --> 00:30:19,890
hit... my face hitting the gravel,
600
00:30:19,892 --> 00:30:22,260
so it was something, a dirt road.
601
00:30:22,262 --> 00:30:24,028
It was like a sneak attack.
602
00:30:24,030 --> 00:30:25,563
They either died together,
603
00:30:25,565 --> 00:30:28,467
or they died very close together.
604
00:30:28,469 --> 00:30:30,138
Wow.
605
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:31,074
Dead on.
606
00:30:31,076 --> 00:30:32,575
I'm very impressed,
607
00:30:32,577 --> 00:30:34,777
Needless to say..
608
00:30:34,779 --> 00:30:37,247
This is the million-dollar question here.
609
00:30:37,249 --> 00:30:39,917
Any indication of who
might have killed them?
610
00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:43,218
She kind of indicated that it was two males.
611
00:30:45,790 --> 00:30:48,990
So, this is gonna make a lot
more sense to you, I think,
612
00:30:48,992 --> 00:30:51,323
once I lay out the rest of the evening
613
00:30:51,325 --> 00:30:54,063
that Stanley and Mary Jane were killed.
614
00:30:54,065 --> 00:30:54,999
Okay.
615
00:30:55,001 --> 00:30:56,832
Stanley picked her up at work.
616
00:30:56,834 --> 00:30:58,300
They went out on the town.
617
00:30:58,302 --> 00:31:01,502
They wound up at a tavern called
Alexander's Log Cabin Inn.
618
00:31:01,504 --> 00:31:02,936
They ran into this guy.
619
00:31:02,938 --> 00:31:06,007
I got a photo here of Deputy
Sheriff Willard Burright,
620
00:31:06,009 --> 00:31:07,308
also known as "Jiggs."
621
00:31:09,543 --> 00:31:10,677
Oh.
622
00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:14,083
Apparently, and this is documented
623
00:31:14,085 --> 00:31:16,085
in police reports from the time
624
00:31:16,087 --> 00:31:18,688
that they were having an affair.
625
00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:20,823
Jiggs was a 42-year-old married man.
626
00:31:20,825 --> 00:31:23,262
Mary Jane was 17.
627
00:31:23,264 --> 00:31:24,895
[Gasps]
628
00:31:24,897 --> 00:31:27,362
Now, when I spoke to Mary Jane's brother,
629
00:31:27,364 --> 00:31:28,530
who is still alive,
630
00:31:28,532 --> 00:31:30,200
he was maybe 6 at the time.
631
00:31:30,202 --> 00:31:31,837
He used to see him come by
632
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,372
and just stand outside in the radio car
633
00:31:34,374 --> 00:31:36,440
and stare at her in the backyard.
634
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:39,279
Oh.
635
00:31:39,281 --> 00:31:43,450
So, he sees her with Stanley,
636
00:31:43,452 --> 00:31:45,019
and he gets upset.
637
00:31:45,021 --> 00:31:47,090
They got into an altercation.
638
00:31:47,092 --> 00:31:49,126
She wound up smacking him
'cause he kept saying,
639
00:31:49,128 --> 00:31:50,992
"I want you to come with me, come with me."
640
00:31:50,994 --> 00:31:53,063
She's, like, "No,
leave me alone"... smacks him.
641
00:31:53,065 --> 00:31:54,795
Stanley and Mary Jane leave.
642
00:31:54,797 --> 00:31:56,562
Now, the next spot the two of them came to
643
00:31:56,564 --> 00:31:58,897
is this place,
which was known as the Stenhouse back then.
644
00:31:58,899 --> 00:32:01,266
They pull up to get into the parking lot.
645
00:32:01,268 --> 00:32:04,870
Stanley gets out, and for some reason,
646
00:32:04,872 --> 00:32:08,372
he gets back in and takes off.
647
00:32:08,374 --> 00:32:09,742
We don't know if something spooked him.
648
00:32:09,744 --> 00:32:11,045
According to witnesses,
649
00:32:11,047 --> 00:32:13,448
they said they were followed
by two big guys in a car.
650
00:32:14,315 --> 00:32:16,217
There's a place called Lover's Lane
651
00:32:16,219 --> 00:32:17,352
like most towns have.
652
00:32:17,354 --> 00:32:19,323
It's about a mile from here.
653
00:32:19,325 --> 00:32:22,191
Next morning,
they find Stanley's body facedown.
654
00:32:22,193 --> 00:32:23,692
He was shot four times...
655
00:32:23,694 --> 00:32:26,464
three in the front, one in the back.
656
00:32:26,466 --> 00:32:30,699
That's Stanley's death certificate here.
657
00:32:30,701 --> 00:32:32,736
Now, four days later,
658
00:32:32,738 --> 00:32:37,877
Mary Jane's body was found
about a mile away in a ditch.
659
00:32:39,412 --> 00:32:40,478
Now, when she's found,
660
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,378
she's found with a single gunshot wound
661
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:43,547
to the back of the head.
662
00:32:43,549 --> 00:32:45,516
Now, I got her death certificate here.
663
00:32:48,282 --> 00:32:50,118
Now,
here's where it gets really interesting.
664
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,988
About 10 years ago,
Mike had the body exhumed.
665
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:53,457
Okay.
666
00:32:53,459 --> 00:32:55,456
He was hoping to find some
clues about the murder.
667
00:32:55,458 --> 00:32:57,991
Now, you said you thought
she suffered a neck injury.
668
00:32:57,993 --> 00:33:00,528
A couple of the anthropologists
that looked at the body
669
00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:02,364
thought that the head was decapitated.
670
00:33:03,566 --> 00:33:05,499
Oh, my God.
671
00:33:05,501 --> 00:33:07,772
Here's the skull that they exhumed.
672
00:33:12,810 --> 00:33:14,178
Right.
673
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:15,846
Now, Amy, you got to understand something.
674
00:33:15,848 --> 00:33:16,913
This case was never solved,
675
00:33:16,915 --> 00:33:18,382
but according to the police reports,
676
00:33:18,384 --> 00:33:19,717
there were a couple of suspects.
677
00:33:19,719 --> 00:33:21,420
One of 'em was Jiggs.
678
00:33:21,422 --> 00:33:23,955
Mike is convinced he did this.
679
00:33:23,957 --> 00:33:25,556
Am I right?
680
00:33:25,558 --> 00:33:30,529
He is a person of interest
beyond a shadow of a doubt.
681
00:33:30,531 --> 00:33:33,432
Who I think it is is this guy.
682
00:33:34,301 --> 00:33:36,001
This is Perry Deshazo.
683
00:33:36,003 --> 00:33:38,102
Remember those two guys witnesses saw
684
00:33:38,104 --> 00:33:39,303
following the couple?
685
00:33:39,305 --> 00:33:41,472
I think he was one of 'em.
686
00:33:41,474 --> 00:33:45,172
Perry's brother, Harry,
went to the ex-sheriff
687
00:33:45,174 --> 00:33:47,976
trying to basically confess to the crime.
688
00:33:47,978 --> 00:33:52,312
He admitted that they went to
go rob Mary Jane and Stanley.
689
00:33:52,314 --> 00:33:55,412
Went bad. Stanley fought back, got shot.
690
00:33:55,414 --> 00:33:56,815
Mary's a witness.
691
00:33:56,817 --> 00:33:58,949
They shoot her in the back of the head,
692
00:33:58,951 --> 00:34:00,815
and they dump both their bodies.
693
00:34:00,817 --> 00:34:02,083
Now, for some reason,
694
00:34:02,085 --> 00:34:05,019
the ex-sheriff they told
sat on this information.
695
00:34:05,021 --> 00:34:07,386
These guys were never arrested.
696
00:34:07,388 --> 00:34:09,521
And you don't think it's possible
697
00:34:09,523 --> 00:34:12,292
that this could have
been orchestrated by him?
698
00:34:12,294 --> 00:34:13,760
Cops know what they're doing.
699
00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:15,161
I'm curious what you think.
700
00:34:15,163 --> 00:34:17,729
I know what I think.
I'm curious what you think.
701
00:34:17,731 --> 00:34:19,598
Well, I know it was definitely two men.
702
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,673
I know that the man
703
00:34:23,675 --> 00:34:28,008
who hit and killed the other man
704
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:29,443
was definitely strong.
705
00:34:29,445 --> 00:34:32,112
The thing that's bothering me, it's, like,
706
00:34:32,114 --> 00:34:35,114
why would I hear, "She's up to no good"?
707
00:34:39,757 --> 00:34:41,159
What else did you see on your walk?
708
00:34:41,161 --> 00:34:42,795
I know we've been harping on this homicide.
709
00:34:42,797 --> 00:34:46,968
There's something else going on here.
710
00:34:48,604 --> 00:34:54,109
I could feel like the dead
people wanting to talk
711
00:34:54,111 --> 00:34:57,216
or wanting to reach out to me,
but I couldn't.
712
00:34:57,218 --> 00:34:59,416
- The connection could not be made.
- Mm-hmm.
713
00:34:59,418 --> 00:35:01,716
The reason for that is,
I saw these dark things,
714
00:35:01,718 --> 00:35:03,687
and they were blocking me.
715
00:35:03,689 --> 00:35:05,189
I felt like these things
716
00:35:05,191 --> 00:35:07,558
would definitely be occasionally seen
717
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,830
as far as, like,
this feeling of this oppressive darkness.
718
00:35:11,832 --> 00:35:16,571
Yeah, I've seen shadows in
the hallway right out front.
719
00:35:16,573 --> 00:35:19,572
The shadows appear out of
the corner of your eye,
720
00:35:19,574 --> 00:35:20,672
and then there's nobody there.
721
00:35:20,674 --> 00:35:22,306
Okay, that makes sense.
722
00:35:22,308 --> 00:35:27,150
I felt that this could have a
very big impact on the living,
723
00:35:27,152 --> 00:35:29,718
like, both physically and emotionally.
724
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:33,722
I think that people here could
lose control over themselves
725
00:35:33,724 --> 00:35:35,590
and not really understand why.
726
00:35:35,592 --> 00:35:38,421
Like, at points,
I wanted to just start screaming,
727
00:35:38,423 --> 00:35:39,755
like, with frustration,
728
00:35:39,757 --> 00:35:41,823
and then I wanted to start crying.
729
00:35:41,825 --> 00:35:46,156
These things are also
capable of affecting memory.
730
00:35:46,158 --> 00:35:48,857
Anytime I would be on to something,
731
00:35:48,859 --> 00:35:51,226
that's when my mind would
be completely erased,
732
00:35:51,228 --> 00:35:52,927
and I couldn't even,
733
00:35:52,929 --> 00:35:55,531
like, recall what I was just thinking.
734
00:35:55,533 --> 00:35:57,233
Oh, my gosh.
735
00:35:57,235 --> 00:35:58,633
And this is how I think
736
00:35:58,635 --> 00:36:00,534
this thing is keeping control
737
00:36:00,536 --> 00:36:02,668
over both the dead and the living.
738
00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:04,938
It's kind of creating a trap.
739
00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:07,442
Could this thing where you're
saying it erased the mind
740
00:36:07,444 --> 00:36:08,610
- do that to the living here?
- Yes.
741
00:36:08,612 --> 00:36:11,810
So, what I was experiencing
with the living,
742
00:36:11,812 --> 00:36:13,179
interviewing them,
743
00:36:13,181 --> 00:36:14,548
to tell you the truth,
I was getting pissed.
744
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:16,916
It felt like I was being lied to.
745
00:36:16,918 --> 00:36:19,886
That's when my cop ears
get raised a little.
746
00:36:19,888 --> 00:36:21,955
- Because you think they're lying.
- Right.
747
00:36:21,957 --> 00:36:23,958
'Cause you think they're
manipulating the truth.
748
00:36:23,983 --> 00:36:24,458
Yes.
749
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:26,694
Wouldn't a cop want to make
another cop think that,
750
00:36:26,696 --> 00:36:28,827
if they were trying to
throw them off their trail?
751
00:36:28,852 --> 00:36:29,686
Possibly, yeah.
752
00:36:30,898 --> 00:36:34,198
I'm looking at something
here as a possibility.
753
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,135
Now,
here's what I was being told could be done
754
00:36:39,137 --> 00:36:41,270
that, you know, people come here,
755
00:36:41,272 --> 00:36:43,704
and that entities can follow them home.
756
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,376
It can cause huge problems for the living.
757
00:36:47,378 --> 00:36:50,807
It's likely their homes will become active.
758
00:36:52,377 --> 00:36:54,146
People could become possessed,
759
00:36:54,148 --> 00:36:57,315
and people could become physically harmed.
760
00:36:57,317 --> 00:36:58,980
Oh, my God.
761
00:36:59,481 --> 00:37:00,648
That's the reason
762
00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:02,218
I asked Marge to sit
down with us at the table
763
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:05,720
because she felt something
followed her home.
764
00:37:05,722 --> 00:37:08,456
About a month ago, I went home,
765
00:37:08,458 --> 00:37:11,390
and I was having a dream,
766
00:37:11,392 --> 00:37:15,296
and I was fighting something in this dream.
767
00:37:15,298 --> 00:37:16,729
Well, I actually woke up,
768
00:37:16,731 --> 00:37:18,463
it took the bottom of my bedspread,
769
00:37:18,465 --> 00:37:22,667
and it went like...
and it was clawing like this.
770
00:37:22,669 --> 00:37:24,868
And then it took it,
and it literally took it like this.
771
00:37:26,337 --> 00:37:28,873
I literally jumped out
of that bed screaming.
772
00:37:30,209 --> 00:37:32,143
I was hearing the word "Legion."
773
00:37:32,145 --> 00:37:33,309
"We are the legion,"
774
00:37:33,311 --> 00:37:35,644
which is demonic...
775
00:37:35,646 --> 00:37:38,877
but it wasn't adding up for me.
776
00:37:38,879 --> 00:37:41,079
It just wasn't adding up
for me as far as it being
777
00:37:41,081 --> 00:37:43,383
a legion of demons running amuck.
778
00:37:43,385 --> 00:37:46,517
STEVE:
Then what the hell do you think it is?
779
00:37:46,519 --> 00:37:47,849
I really...
780
00:37:47,851 --> 00:37:49,183
I'm leaning towards the cop.
781
00:38:07,004 --> 00:38:09,235
AMY: I was hearing the word "Legion,"
782
00:38:09,237 --> 00:38:11,201
but it wasn't adding up for me.
783
00:38:11,203 --> 00:38:13,605
It just wasn't adding up
for me as far as it being
784
00:38:13,607 --> 00:38:16,008
a legion of demons running amuck.
785
00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:19,141
STEVE:
Then what the hell do you think it is?
786
00:38:19,143 --> 00:38:20,510
I really...
787
00:38:20,512 --> 00:38:22,178
I'm leaning towards the cop.
788
00:38:25,682 --> 00:38:27,582
I was never convinced
789
00:38:27,584 --> 00:38:31,117
that there were, you know, demons here.
790
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:33,351
But somehow Jiggs kind of figured out
791
00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:35,785
- how to throw you off track.
- Yes, yes.
792
00:38:35,787 --> 00:38:37,984
- Okay.
- Trying to set up the scene
793
00:38:37,986 --> 00:38:40,186
to look like there's demonic [bleep]
794
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:46,993
And I'm going based on how efficiently
795
00:38:46,995 --> 00:38:51,196
- he is manipulating this place...
- This place.
796
00:38:51,198 --> 00:38:53,862
The people in it, me,
797
00:38:53,864 --> 00:38:56,750
you know, to not get to the truth.
798
00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:58,250
_
799
00:39:00,099 --> 00:39:01,666
So, everything that's going on here...
800
00:39:01,668 --> 00:39:03,268
people getting tugged,
801
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:07,003
the memory scrubbing, so to speak,
802
00:39:07,005 --> 00:39:09,873
things tossed, followed home, the shadows,
803
00:39:09,875 --> 00:39:12,440
that's all coming from Jiggs?
804
00:39:12,442 --> 00:39:15,241
Yes, that's my belief, yes.
805
00:39:15,243 --> 00:39:17,412
AMY: I believe the police chief
806
00:39:17,414 --> 00:39:19,914
was the mastermind behind these murders,
807
00:39:19,916 --> 00:39:22,384
and in death, he's trapping the victims here
808
00:39:22,386 --> 00:39:25,384
so that the truth about his
part in organizing the crime
809
00:39:25,386 --> 00:39:26,918
never gets out.
810
00:39:29,556 --> 00:39:31,559
STEVE: So, Mike, through all these years,
811
00:39:31,561 --> 00:39:33,726
you thought the haunting
of your business here
812
00:39:33,728 --> 00:39:35,928
had to do with the Mary
Jane Reed murder case,
813
00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:37,530
and amazingly, you were right.
814
00:39:37,532 --> 00:39:38,998
But the other thing is,
815
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,466
you got some pretty vicious entity here
816
00:39:41,468 --> 00:39:42,932
doing some crazy stuff.
817
00:39:42,934 --> 00:39:45,369
So, we know what it is,
818
00:39:45,371 --> 00:39:47,105
but we don't know how to fight it.
819
00:39:47,107 --> 00:39:49,505
So, for that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
820
00:39:53,176 --> 00:39:57,876
So, what I would like you to do is for you
821
00:39:57,878 --> 00:40:02,214
to demand Mary Jane and this man
822
00:40:02,216 --> 00:40:05,848
leave this restaurant with you.
823
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:08,584
You have to take them away from here.
824
00:40:08,586 --> 00:40:10,755
What I want you to say
825
00:40:10,757 --> 00:40:13,923
is basically that they can go,
826
00:40:13,925 --> 00:40:16,487
that you're releasing them.
827
00:40:16,489 --> 00:40:18,290
They're not gonna feel trapped anymore,
828
00:40:18,292 --> 00:40:23,260
and in all likelihood, they will all go.
829
00:40:23,262 --> 00:40:24,894
Now, let me ask you a question.
830
00:40:24,896 --> 00:40:26,863
Is she aware of what Mike's gone through
831
00:40:26,865 --> 00:40:31,701
- to help try to solve her...
- Oh, yes, absolutely.
832
00:40:31,703 --> 00:40:33,435
And I think that might make it
833
00:40:33,437 --> 00:40:35,737
a little bit even harder for her to let go.
834
00:40:35,739 --> 00:40:39,040
But you're gonna be her hero.
835
00:40:42,281 --> 00:40:45,983
The second step is
836
00:40:45,985 --> 00:40:50,114
for a holy man to come
in to get rid of him.
837
00:40:50,214 --> 00:40:51,541
The cop.
838
00:40:51,641 --> 00:40:53,710
I want the holy man
839
00:40:53,712 --> 00:40:57,782
to do, like,
a blessing and a sermon ceremony...
840
00:40:57,784 --> 00:41:02,787
because he has a root fear of religion.
841
00:41:02,789 --> 00:41:07,192
His thing is about self-preservation.
842
00:41:07,194 --> 00:41:08,860
He doesn't want to go to Hell.
843
00:41:11,796 --> 00:41:13,529
I like her plan.
844
00:41:13,531 --> 00:41:15,732
Are you gonna take Amy's advice on this
845
00:41:15,734 --> 00:41:17,876
and do what she asks? Why, of course.
846
00:41:18,554 --> 00:41:21,014
Anything for peace of mind
847
00:41:21,016 --> 00:41:23,347
and create a safe environment.
848
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:25,812
And Marge, are you gonna help out with this?
849
00:41:25,814 --> 00:41:29,713
Whatever I can do. Whatever he asks.
850
00:41:29,715 --> 00:41:34,452
How are you gonna feel about
letting go of Mary Jane?
851
00:41:34,454 --> 00:41:37,225
Anything that can bring the family closure
852
00:41:37,227 --> 00:41:40,064
and bring her unrested soul closure
853
00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:43,068
is a game winner as far as I'm concerned.
854
00:41:45,706 --> 00:41:48,242
It won't be easy removing
the layers of dead people
855
00:41:48,244 --> 00:41:50,545
inside this location,
856
00:41:50,547 --> 00:41:53,478
but if Mike and Marge follow my advice,
857
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,346
the dead will be set free,
858
00:41:55,348 --> 00:41:56,781
and Mike can find peace
859
00:41:56,783 --> 00:42:00,051
knowing he's put a stop
to Mary Jane's suffering.
860
00:42:00,101 --> 00:42:04,651
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