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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,368 --> 00:00:14,303 These tricksters are awful... awful, awful. 2 00:00:14,306 --> 00:00:17,774 I saw three shadow figures here at the foot of the bed. 3 00:00:17,778 --> 00:00:22,047 They're making them see things, hear things, feel things. 4 00:00:22,050 --> 00:00:24,317 She found him hanging from the rafters. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,920 Something just goes "Boom!" 6 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:29,524 This is some bizarre [bleep] you guys are talking about. 7 00:00:29,527 --> 00:00:30,526 Ohh. 8 00:00:30,528 --> 00:00:32,595 I don't know what to trust. 9 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:36,533 He's making me crazy. 10 00:00:37,037 --> 00:00:39,237 Something bad's going to happen. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,141 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:42,144 --> 00:00:43,510 There's panic. 13 00:00:43,513 --> 00:00:44,946 And it's almost like a butchering. 14 00:00:44,948 --> 00:00:46,013 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,016 --> 00:00:48,150 They all died horribly. 16 00:00:48,152 --> 00:00:49,852 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:49,855 --> 00:00:51,254 Get out of here. 18 00:00:51,256 --> 00:00:52,889 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:52,892 --> 00:00:54,925 Vicious. 20 00:00:54,928 --> 00:00:58,063 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:58,066 --> 00:00:59,765 It doesn't matter where you are. I'll find you. 22 00:00:59,767 --> 00:01:01,334 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:01,337 --> 00:01:02,970 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:02,973 --> 00:01:04,873 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:04,875 --> 00:01:06,574 This guy's a real piece of work. 26 00:01:06,577 --> 00:01:10,246 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:10,249 --> 00:01:11,748 I feel like I live in a house of Hell. 28 00:01:11,751 --> 00:01:12,917 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:12,919 --> 00:01:15,186 This is not good. 30 00:01:15,189 --> 00:01:16,955 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:16,957 --> 00:01:18,957 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:20,727 Until the very end... 33 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:22,196 I want my life back. 34 00:01:22,198 --> 00:01:24,398 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:24,401 --> 00:01:26,201 - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs] 36 00:01:26,204 --> 00:01:27,470 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:27,472 --> 00:01:29,005 Oh, my god. 38 00:01:29,008 --> 00:01:30,507 This is going to kill us. 39 00:01:32,339 --> 00:01:36,012 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 40 00:01:40,557 --> 00:01:42,540 [Wind whistling] 41 00:01:45,229 --> 00:01:47,379 [Bird cawing] 42 00:01:47,382 --> 00:01:49,766 I'm in the rural town of Independence, Oregon. 43 00:01:49,769 --> 00:01:51,735 It's about an hour south of Portland. 44 00:01:53,390 --> 00:01:55,206 I got called in by a guy named Terry, 45 00:01:55,209 --> 00:01:57,276 who sounded really desperate on the phone. 46 00:01:57,279 --> 00:02:00,847 He says the activity in his farmhouse is so bad, 47 00:02:00,850 --> 00:02:03,117 it's destroying his health and his relationship. 48 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,422 He says if we can't help him, 49 00:02:06,425 --> 00:02:08,525 he doesn't think he's gonna last another year. 50 00:02:14,603 --> 00:02:17,720 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I clear the house 51 00:02:17,723 --> 00:02:20,858 of anything that might influence her findings. 52 00:02:20,861 --> 00:02:23,945 Photos need to be removed... 53 00:02:23,948 --> 00:02:26,849 and personal items covered. 54 00:02:26,852 --> 00:02:28,101 When I'm finished, 55 00:02:28,104 --> 00:02:31,155 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 56 00:02:31,158 --> 00:02:33,292 [Bird screeches] 57 00:02:42,273 --> 00:02:45,642 Okay. Okay. 58 00:02:45,645 --> 00:02:48,746 I had a really hard time opening. 59 00:02:48,749 --> 00:02:52,801 The thing was, was that there were, like, these tricksters. 60 00:02:52,804 --> 00:02:57,790 They are treacherous... thieves and liars. 61 00:02:57,794 --> 00:02:59,727 They're creating illusions, 62 00:02:59,730 --> 00:03:03,732 and they are going into people's dreams. 63 00:03:05,271 --> 00:03:06,303 What the [bleep] 64 00:03:06,305 --> 00:03:10,441 They're having bad, horrible dreams. 65 00:03:10,445 --> 00:03:12,929 This is not good. 66 00:03:21,626 --> 00:03:24,026 [Metal creaking] 67 00:03:24,029 --> 00:03:25,412 STEVE: Terry, I'm glad I'm here, 68 00:03:25,415 --> 00:03:26,864 'cause when we spoke on the phone, 69 00:03:26,866 --> 00:03:28,166 you sounded pretty desperate. 70 00:03:28,169 --> 00:03:30,602 What exactly is going on in the house? 71 00:03:30,605 --> 00:03:32,772 Oh, gosh. We hear voices. 72 00:03:32,774 --> 00:03:34,274 There's full-body apparitions. 73 00:03:34,277 --> 00:03:37,078 I've been chased down the hallway. 74 00:03:39,617 --> 00:03:41,284 I just feel like something's here 75 00:03:41,286 --> 00:03:43,469 trying to suck the life out of me. 76 00:03:43,472 --> 00:03:44,755 Wow. 77 00:03:44,758 --> 00:03:46,091 So, who exactly lives in the house? 78 00:03:46,093 --> 00:03:50,261 Me, my partner, Bobby, and my grandson, Ashton. 79 00:03:50,265 --> 00:03:53,300 I think it's now starting after my grandson. 80 00:03:54,337 --> 00:03:56,971 All right. So, how long have you been living here? 81 00:03:56,974 --> 00:03:58,941 We've been here four years. 82 00:03:58,944 --> 00:04:00,610 What made you come here? 83 00:04:00,612 --> 00:04:03,046 With my parents being elderly, Bobby and I decided 84 00:04:03,049 --> 00:04:05,633 that it would probably be best if we moved down here 85 00:04:05,636 --> 00:04:07,919 to help take care of the farm and my parents. 86 00:04:07,922 --> 00:04:10,223 Okay. So, did you grow up in this house? 87 00:04:10,226 --> 00:04:12,593 No. This house has been moved here. 88 00:04:12,595 --> 00:04:15,996 We had an old farmhouse over there that I grew up in. 89 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,299 Okay. 90 00:04:17,301 --> 00:04:20,269 Things have progressively gotten worse over this last year. 91 00:04:20,272 --> 00:04:22,172 I've been attacked in my bed. 92 00:04:22,175 --> 00:04:25,276 I'm getting no sleep... none. 93 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,647 I get very irritable when my anxiety goes up. 94 00:04:28,650 --> 00:04:30,150 I know on the phone, when we spoke, 95 00:04:30,153 --> 00:04:32,286 it seems like your relationship's a little strained 96 00:04:32,288 --> 00:04:34,088 because of this stuff that's going on. 97 00:04:34,091 --> 00:04:36,458 It is a little strained. I don't want to be bothered. 98 00:04:36,461 --> 00:04:40,129 I just kind of want to be alone, and that's not me at all. 99 00:04:40,132 --> 00:04:41,565 Now, what about your grandson? 100 00:04:41,568 --> 00:04:44,202 He is so scared, he won't go to the bath alone. 101 00:04:44,205 --> 00:04:46,138 He doesn't want to sleep alone. 102 00:04:46,140 --> 00:04:48,040 [Sniffles] 103 00:04:48,043 --> 00:04:50,043 [Voice breaking] I'm sorry. 104 00:04:50,046 --> 00:04:53,481 I don't know how to protect my family. 105 00:04:53,484 --> 00:04:55,217 Yeah. 106 00:04:55,219 --> 00:04:57,519 I am at my wits' end. 107 00:05:04,866 --> 00:05:07,099 What the hell? 108 00:05:09,405 --> 00:05:11,939 There's a man... 109 00:05:11,942 --> 00:05:14,075 Oh, a living dude. 110 00:05:14,078 --> 00:05:16,445 He's just, like, barreling through here 111 00:05:16,448 --> 00:05:17,981 and yelling and screaming. 112 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:21,552 And he's got brown hair. 113 00:05:21,555 --> 00:05:24,356 Kind of got a round face, kind of a roundish face. 114 00:05:24,359 --> 00:05:26,092 Kind of, like, always a mess. 115 00:05:26,094 --> 00:05:27,994 MATTHEW: How old? 116 00:05:27,997 --> 00:05:30,331 Probably in his early 40s. 117 00:05:30,334 --> 00:05:31,366 Okay. 118 00:05:31,368 --> 00:05:33,902 Not a happy person. 119 00:05:39,679 --> 00:05:42,247 Okay, now I'm seeing a bunch of [bleep] 120 00:05:45,804 --> 00:05:48,555 I think there's a [bleep] telepath here 121 00:05:48,558 --> 00:05:53,427 who is inadvertently manipulating their environment. 122 00:05:53,431 --> 00:05:54,430 How? 123 00:05:54,432 --> 00:05:56,516 Like, the living people here 124 00:05:56,519 --> 00:05:59,420 are seeing things that aren't really there. 125 00:06:01,175 --> 00:06:03,075 He's making me crazy. 126 00:06:10,988 --> 00:06:14,556 TERRY: One of my very first really scary experiences 127 00:06:14,559 --> 00:06:15,992 happened here. 128 00:06:15,995 --> 00:06:17,428 I used to have a mirror 129 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:21,032 that hung in my bedroom at the end of this hallway, 130 00:06:21,036 --> 00:06:23,369 and I was coming through one afternoon 131 00:06:23,372 --> 00:06:25,739 with a load of towels from the laundry, 132 00:06:25,741 --> 00:06:28,108 and I just got this overwhelming feeling 133 00:06:28,111 --> 00:06:29,945 that somebody was behind me. 134 00:06:29,948 --> 00:06:33,282 And as I happened to look up down the hallway 135 00:06:33,285 --> 00:06:36,520 and into that mirror, I saw an old man behind me, 136 00:06:36,523 --> 00:06:38,856 I would say probably in his 70s. 137 00:06:38,859 --> 00:06:42,194 He was kind of see-through, more of, like, a gray thing, 138 00:06:42,197 --> 00:06:46,433 and he was coming behind me down the hallway. 139 00:06:46,437 --> 00:06:51,106 I ran and slammed the bedroom door behind me. 140 00:06:51,109 --> 00:06:53,226 Could it have been an intruder or anything like that? 141 00:06:53,229 --> 00:06:54,511 No. 142 00:06:54,514 --> 00:06:57,449 I open the door back up... There's nothing here. 143 00:06:57,452 --> 00:06:59,819 Interesting. Okay, so what else is going on in this hallway? 144 00:06:59,821 --> 00:07:02,154 I hear women's voices out in the living room. 145 00:07:02,157 --> 00:07:04,558 It's like a murmuring. 146 00:07:04,561 --> 00:07:07,261 You just kind of hear... [Imitating murmuring] 147 00:07:07,264 --> 00:07:08,263 That's annoying. 148 00:07:08,265 --> 00:07:09,331 Very. 149 00:07:09,334 --> 00:07:11,101 How many people would you think it is? 150 00:07:11,103 --> 00:07:12,869 Probably three to four. 151 00:07:12,872 --> 00:07:14,171 Do you go investigate? 152 00:07:14,173 --> 00:07:15,589 Yes, I usually get up. 153 00:07:15,592 --> 00:07:18,543 There have been times I've been kind of confrontational. 154 00:07:18,546 --> 00:07:19,712 And what have you said? 155 00:07:19,714 --> 00:07:21,447 "Get out of my house." 156 00:07:21,450 --> 00:07:22,816 And what happens? 157 00:07:22,819 --> 00:07:24,486 It makes it worse. 158 00:07:24,488 --> 00:07:25,854 They're bullying me. 159 00:07:25,857 --> 00:07:28,224 I never had circles under my eyes 160 00:07:28,226 --> 00:07:31,160 until I came back here and moved into this house. 161 00:07:31,163 --> 00:07:32,329 Okay. 162 00:07:37,072 --> 00:07:39,005 [Exhales sharply] 163 00:07:41,677 --> 00:07:43,010 Oh, boy. 164 00:07:47,585 --> 00:07:50,119 These, like, trickster things... 165 00:07:50,122 --> 00:07:53,157 there's a lot of them... a lot of them. 166 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,743 How many? 167 00:07:57,733 --> 00:07:59,032 50? 168 00:07:59,034 --> 00:08:04,438 But I don't know if I'm... seeing the truth. 169 00:08:07,579 --> 00:08:10,613 These tricksters are incredibly good at distorting reality. 170 00:08:10,616 --> 00:08:16,120 Between them and the telepathy, the living must be going insane. 171 00:08:16,124 --> 00:08:19,926 They'll feed into the person's paranoias and fears. 172 00:08:19,930 --> 00:08:24,332 They can reach in and pull out past traumas 173 00:08:24,335 --> 00:08:27,269 and make it a fresh issue for them, 174 00:08:27,272 --> 00:08:30,807 and they, like, overanalyze it and analyze it and analyze it, 175 00:08:30,811 --> 00:08:32,277 talking, talking, talking, 176 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:34,880 and it's like feeding it more and more and more. 177 00:08:42,894 --> 00:08:48,464 One night, I woke up and I saw three shadow figures 178 00:08:48,468 --> 00:08:50,485 down here at the foot of the bed 179 00:08:50,487 --> 00:08:53,204 that I would say were probably about this tall 180 00:08:53,207 --> 00:08:57,076 and looked like black blobs... kind of human shape. 181 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,848 I freaked out, jumped up out of bed, and I ran out. 182 00:09:00,851 --> 00:09:02,818 I was scared to death. 183 00:09:02,821 --> 00:09:05,688 You're sure there's no shadows coming in from outside? 184 00:09:05,691 --> 00:09:07,858 Those are block-out curtains, and they're closed. 185 00:09:07,861 --> 00:09:09,861 Huh. 186 00:09:09,863 --> 00:09:11,963 Actually, after we had called you, 187 00:09:11,966 --> 00:09:15,968 the other night, I got attacked in my bed again. 188 00:09:15,971 --> 00:09:17,771 I was watching TV. 189 00:09:17,774 --> 00:09:21,075 I rolled over to grab the remote, and again, 190 00:09:21,078 --> 00:09:23,963 there was a large shadow figure standing over me, 191 00:09:23,966 --> 00:09:25,615 leaning in the bed. 192 00:09:25,618 --> 00:09:27,034 I started swinging. 193 00:09:27,036 --> 00:09:30,521 I thought maybe somebody had broken into the house. 194 00:09:30,525 --> 00:09:32,759 And it just disappeared. 195 00:09:32,761 --> 00:09:35,678 When you said you were desperate, you weren't kidding. 196 00:09:35,681 --> 00:09:38,816 No. It feels like I'm being tortured. 197 00:09:42,057 --> 00:09:45,342 I feel sick... horrible, horrible [bleep] sick in here. 198 00:09:45,345 --> 00:09:46,778 Awful, awful, awful. 199 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:49,447 These tricksters, 200 00:09:49,450 --> 00:09:52,618 they are causing their own mayhem here. 201 00:09:52,621 --> 00:09:54,521 - [Groans] - MATTHEW: Are you okay? 202 00:09:54,524 --> 00:09:57,825 They're [bleep] with me. 203 00:09:57,828 --> 00:09:59,261 Real physical. Okay [bleep] 204 00:09:59,264 --> 00:10:00,897 Ah. Come on. Come on. 205 00:10:00,899 --> 00:10:02,315 [Inhales sharply] 206 00:10:02,318 --> 00:10:05,636 They come. They come. They come. 207 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:07,105 And they do. They surround... 208 00:10:07,107 --> 00:10:09,441 They do... They do it... They'll surround any bed 209 00:10:09,444 --> 00:10:11,477 that has a living person in them at night. 210 00:10:14,751 --> 00:10:16,918 They're like this big, and they're black... 211 00:10:16,921 --> 00:10:20,089 you know, black humanoid figures. 212 00:10:20,092 --> 00:10:23,443 And they all are standing together. 213 00:10:27,702 --> 00:10:29,936 They come in the front door. They crawl out of the closets. 214 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:34,875 They're attracted to the negativity in this house. 215 00:10:34,878 --> 00:10:38,446 They're having a good time feeding this. 216 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:41,285 It's not like they're like, "I'm gonna kill this person, 217 00:10:41,288 --> 00:10:43,221 but if something happens, great. 218 00:10:43,223 --> 00:10:45,723 That would be [bleep] entertaining." 219 00:10:45,726 --> 00:10:49,128 They're like, "Yeah, let's keep this going. 220 00:10:49,131 --> 00:10:49,963 Let's do this!" 221 00:11:11,987 --> 00:11:13,737 STEVE: Terry mentioned to me 222 00:11:13,740 --> 00:11:16,357 about his short tempers, his mood swings. 223 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,943 Have you noticed what he's talking about? 224 00:11:17,945 --> 00:11:19,194 Yeah. 225 00:11:19,197 --> 00:11:21,197 In the beginning, when we first got together, 226 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,218 he was so lovable and just happy. 227 00:11:24,221 --> 00:11:26,104 Just watching somebody go downhill, 228 00:11:26,106 --> 00:11:27,406 you don't want to see it. 229 00:11:27,409 --> 00:11:29,442 And there's a couple of times 230 00:11:29,445 --> 00:11:32,846 where I've actually, like, wanted to just walk away. 231 00:11:32,849 --> 00:11:34,182 Okay. 232 00:11:34,184 --> 00:11:37,786 Now, what about yourself? What have you experienced? 233 00:11:37,789 --> 00:11:39,555 I have seen something that actually terrifies me. 234 00:11:39,558 --> 00:11:40,474 Okay. 235 00:11:40,476 --> 00:11:42,325 It's a little shadow figure. 236 00:11:42,328 --> 00:11:45,997 It's probably about 2 feet tall, about up to your knee, 237 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,667 and it peeks around the corner at you. 238 00:11:48,670 --> 00:11:52,972 It's got kind of like a troll- or gremlin-looking shape to it, 239 00:11:52,976 --> 00:11:55,277 with pointed ears. 240 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,114 You don't think it's any kind of an animal or anything like that? 241 00:11:58,117 --> 00:11:59,483 You sure of that? 242 00:11:59,485 --> 00:12:01,685 It's too big to be any kind of rodent. 243 00:12:01,688 --> 00:12:03,054 Okay. 244 00:12:03,056 --> 00:12:05,223 And you would have heard it if it was some animal, huh? 245 00:12:05,226 --> 00:12:06,709 Yeah. There's no sound to it. 246 00:12:07,896 --> 00:12:09,162 Is there anything else going on? 247 00:12:09,165 --> 00:12:10,998 I saw this little fawn 248 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,968 actually hop through the back window in the bedroom, 249 00:12:13,971 --> 00:12:16,705 and it went through the bedroom 250 00:12:16,708 --> 00:12:18,708 and then took off down the hallway. 251 00:12:18,711 --> 00:12:20,344 You're talking about a baby deer? 252 00:12:20,346 --> 00:12:21,612 Yeah. 253 00:12:21,615 --> 00:12:23,748 This is some bizarre [bleep] you guys are talking about. 254 00:12:23,751 --> 00:12:25,485 I haven't heard this much stuff in one house. 255 00:12:25,487 --> 00:12:28,020 I thought I was going crazy at one point. 256 00:12:28,023 --> 00:12:29,590 - Were you boozing? - No. I don't drink. 257 00:12:29,593 --> 00:12:31,326 You don't drink? All right. Any drugs? 258 00:12:31,328 --> 00:12:32,393 Nope. 259 00:12:32,396 --> 00:12:34,480 I have no idea what that could have been. 260 00:12:34,482 --> 00:12:36,499 You can see why I thought I was going crazy. 261 00:12:39,756 --> 00:12:42,423 AMY: I'm having a lot of issues 262 00:12:42,426 --> 00:12:47,145 trying to figure out what is really going on here. 263 00:12:47,149 --> 00:12:53,287 But these tricksters... They are causing issues. 264 00:12:53,291 --> 00:12:56,859 Like, there's infinite possibilities 265 00:12:56,862 --> 00:12:58,996 of how they can manipulate the living 266 00:12:58,999 --> 00:13:04,002 into making them, you know, behave in a certain way 267 00:13:04,006 --> 00:13:09,876 or, you know, see things, hear things, feel things. 268 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,497 They're causing, you know, fighting. 269 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:15,735 They'll pit people against each other so they'll fight. 270 00:13:15,738 --> 00:13:18,322 They'll cause a lot of arguments and anger. 271 00:13:20,495 --> 00:13:26,032 One person will hear the other person talking to them, 272 00:13:26,036 --> 00:13:28,036 but it's not them. 273 00:13:28,038 --> 00:13:31,372 They manipulate dreams. 274 00:13:31,376 --> 00:13:36,947 They are making it a very negative, volatile situation. 275 00:13:36,951 --> 00:13:40,552 And they are really feeding at night. 276 00:13:48,866 --> 00:13:51,100 So, Ashton, I talked to Grandpa, 277 00:13:51,102 --> 00:13:53,502 and he's worried about you. 278 00:13:53,505 --> 00:13:55,505 He wanted me to talk to you. 279 00:13:55,508 --> 00:13:56,574 How old are you, exactly? 280 00:13:56,576 --> 00:13:57,575 7. 281 00:13:57,578 --> 00:13:59,244 7? Okay. 282 00:13:59,246 --> 00:14:01,413 Do you see anything in the house that frightens you? 283 00:14:03,987 --> 00:14:05,620 Tell me about that. 284 00:14:05,623 --> 00:14:09,041 I saw something come through the closet... 285 00:14:09,044 --> 00:14:10,860 the closet in that room. 286 00:14:12,848 --> 00:14:14,331 It was like red eyes, 287 00:14:14,334 --> 00:14:16,901 and it was like a demon or something. 288 00:14:18,339 --> 00:14:21,240 And it came on my side of the bed, 289 00:14:21,243 --> 00:14:25,078 and I felt something tickling me right here. 290 00:14:25,081 --> 00:14:27,315 Are you afraid to stay here? 291 00:14:28,854 --> 00:14:30,153 You are? 292 00:14:30,155 --> 00:14:32,872 Why are you afraid? Tell me. 293 00:14:32,875 --> 00:14:37,928 Because I see stuff moving in the hallway and the bathroom. 294 00:14:37,932 --> 00:14:39,465 What are you seeing? 295 00:14:39,468 --> 00:14:42,136 All night, I see, like, a tall man. 296 00:14:42,138 --> 00:14:45,105 I stay up almost all night. 297 00:14:50,149 --> 00:14:54,885 The little trickster dudes are different in here. 298 00:14:54,889 --> 00:14:57,923 They're more active in here as far as what they do. 299 00:15:00,763 --> 00:15:01,829 [Inhales sharply] 300 00:15:01,831 --> 00:15:04,965 Here, they're more aggressive. 301 00:15:04,969 --> 00:15:06,936 They're, like, jumping on the bed 302 00:15:06,938 --> 00:15:09,589 like they're having a good time, 303 00:15:09,592 --> 00:15:11,942 barking and growling. 304 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:12,944 [Growling] 305 00:15:12,946 --> 00:15:16,114 And I see, like... 306 00:15:16,117 --> 00:15:18,951 I see somebody's in there. Somebody's in the bed. 307 00:15:21,775 --> 00:15:23,758 And they're trying to relax. 308 00:15:23,761 --> 00:15:25,427 They're seeing, like... 309 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:26,796 [Imitates whooshing] 310 00:15:26,798 --> 00:15:29,232 Like, um... 311 00:15:29,235 --> 00:15:31,469 Uh, like, all this movement, like lights... 312 00:15:32,439 --> 00:15:36,174 and, like, you know, black, streaky things and lights 313 00:15:36,178 --> 00:15:38,078 and, like, all this chaos. 314 00:15:39,549 --> 00:15:42,851 And they're just like, "Oh, man. This is really bad." 315 00:15:57,204 --> 00:15:58,903 Terry and Bobby have no clue 316 00:15:58,906 --> 00:16:00,756 about the history of their house, 317 00:16:00,758 --> 00:16:02,057 so I pulled the property deed 318 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:04,027 and asked a local historian that I know 319 00:16:04,029 --> 00:16:05,762 to look through some of the names. 320 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:08,766 Turns out the original property owner 321 00:16:08,769 --> 00:16:09,935 was publicly disgraced 322 00:16:09,937 --> 00:16:12,137 and had to leave Independence in shame. 323 00:16:16,447 --> 00:16:18,613 Well, Diane, I appreciate you helping me out. 324 00:16:18,616 --> 00:16:21,000 So, what can you tell me about this guy Alva Shaw, 325 00:16:21,002 --> 00:16:23,119 who originally owned my clients' property? 326 00:16:23,122 --> 00:16:26,740 He was born in New York about 1819, 327 00:16:26,743 --> 00:16:28,561 and he came to Oregon in 1844. 328 00:16:28,662 --> 00:16:30,191 Okay. So, what did he do when he got here? 329 00:16:30,292 --> 00:16:33,126 He was appointed by the governor to be the superintendent 330 00:16:33,129 --> 00:16:35,196 of the state penitentiary in Portland. 331 00:16:35,198 --> 00:16:38,727 Okay, I mean, that's a pretty prestigious job 332 00:16:38,829 --> 00:16:39,595 and powerful job. 333 00:16:39,695 --> 00:16:41,028 - He's got to have a lot of connections. - He did. 334 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:42,175 How'd it work out? 335 00:16:42,276 --> 00:16:44,434 Of the 154 prisoners 336 00:16:44,535 --> 00:16:47,469 that were sent to the prison during his term, 337 00:16:47,472 --> 00:16:51,174 44 of them escaped, and only 13 were recaptured. 338 00:16:51,633 --> 00:16:52,966 So 1/3 of his prisoners escaped? 339 00:16:52,969 --> 00:16:54,919 Yes. He was blamed for that. 340 00:16:54,921 --> 00:16:55,936 Okay. 341 00:17:03,849 --> 00:17:05,749 AMY: As soon as I walk outside, 342 00:17:05,752 --> 00:17:08,586 it's like a haze has been lifted off of me, 343 00:17:08,589 --> 00:17:10,956 and I'm able to see clearly again, 344 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:14,127 and there's someone here, watching my every move. 345 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:20,701 I think that he's a dead man... a very powerful man. 346 00:17:20,705 --> 00:17:26,643 I think he had a lot of power that was placed upon him, 347 00:17:26,648 --> 00:17:29,415 a lot of strength, a lot of determination, 348 00:17:29,417 --> 00:17:31,517 a lot of authority, and I think that's why 349 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,388 he's so capable of manifesting this way. 350 00:17:37,295 --> 00:17:39,328 MATTHEW: Do you know when he's from? 351 00:17:39,331 --> 00:17:40,747 80 to 100 years ago? 352 00:17:40,749 --> 00:17:41,765 Okay. 353 00:17:41,768 --> 00:17:44,402 Do people experience him in any way? 354 00:17:44,405 --> 00:17:46,805 I would assume so, 355 00:17:46,808 --> 00:17:49,709 'cause he does have a thing with the tricksters. 356 00:17:50,613 --> 00:17:53,497 You know, the only thing I could possibly say 357 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:56,184 is that he would be some kind of leader. 358 00:17:57,155 --> 00:17:59,305 Now, you mentioned this guy had a bad go of things. 359 00:17:59,308 --> 00:18:00,891 - What are we talking about? - He did. 360 00:18:00,894 --> 00:18:05,029 He had a very bad go of things, starting in August 1866. 361 00:18:05,032 --> 00:18:08,901 First thing that happened is his mother died... Hannah Shaw. 362 00:18:08,904 --> 00:18:10,370 Okay. 363 00:18:10,373 --> 00:18:14,442 She died on August 12th, and she was 71 years old. 364 00:18:14,445 --> 00:18:16,578 And she was buried on your clients' property. 365 00:18:16,581 --> 00:18:18,314 - She's buried on the property? - Yes. 366 00:18:18,317 --> 00:18:21,352 Eight days after his mom dies, 367 00:18:21,355 --> 00:18:24,372 he hands in his resignation as superintendent, 368 00:18:24,375 --> 00:18:26,792 effective at the end of the month. 369 00:18:26,795 --> 00:18:29,062 So, did his mom dying have anything to do with him resigning? 370 00:18:29,065 --> 00:18:30,398 You know, it's possible. 371 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,235 With just four days left in his term would come the event 372 00:18:34,238 --> 00:18:37,840 that would drive him out of Independence forever. 373 00:18:37,844 --> 00:18:40,177 On August 27th, he's taken hostage 374 00:18:40,179 --> 00:18:44,882 with two of his employees by nine prisoners 375 00:18:44,886 --> 00:18:46,552 and were going to use them as shields 376 00:18:46,555 --> 00:18:47,655 to get out of the prison. 377 00:18:47,657 --> 00:18:49,590 And as they're marching, 378 00:18:49,593 --> 00:18:51,826 seeing that something needed to be done, 379 00:18:51,829 --> 00:18:54,563 Shaw grabs ahold of a fence, 380 00:18:54,566 --> 00:18:57,367 and it breaks the momentum of the escape, 381 00:18:57,370 --> 00:19:00,672 and the guards are able to shoot at the prisoners. 382 00:19:00,675 --> 00:19:02,257 That's a pretty ballsy move on his part. 383 00:19:02,259 --> 00:19:05,110 It was, and one of the prisoners is killed, 384 00:19:05,113 --> 00:19:08,615 and eight of them escape, although five are recaptured. 385 00:19:08,618 --> 00:19:10,384 The hostage standoff was big news. 386 00:19:10,387 --> 00:19:13,171 Here's an article about it that was in the local newspaper. 387 00:19:14,393 --> 00:19:16,276 All right. 388 00:19:16,278 --> 00:19:19,029 So, it sounds like this guy finally did something right. 389 00:19:19,032 --> 00:19:21,399 The public didn't see it that way. 390 00:19:21,402 --> 00:19:24,970 In this editorial, they blame him for the escape. 391 00:19:24,973 --> 00:19:26,690 They say that he was too liberal, 392 00:19:26,693 --> 00:19:29,260 that he left the shackles off the prisoners 393 00:19:29,263 --> 00:19:31,347 when he should have left them on, 394 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:33,566 that he didn't have adequate security. 395 00:19:33,568 --> 00:19:35,452 And after the escape, 396 00:19:35,455 --> 00:19:38,356 he feels like he's a pariah in the community, 397 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,559 and he sells the property that he has left, 398 00:19:40,562 --> 00:19:42,228 and he moves to California. 399 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:44,397 Now, how old was he when he died? 400 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:45,499 He was about 64. 401 00:19:45,502 --> 00:19:46,701 So, what does he die of? 402 00:19:46,703 --> 00:19:47,836 We don't know. 403 00:19:47,838 --> 00:19:49,204 The obituary just says 404 00:19:49,207 --> 00:19:51,907 that he died of an illness that lasted 13 hours. 405 00:19:51,910 --> 00:19:53,643 Oh. Okay. 406 00:19:55,315 --> 00:19:56,914 MATTHEW: Do you know how he died? 407 00:19:56,917 --> 00:19:59,551 It wasn't the way he expected or wanted. 408 00:19:59,553 --> 00:20:03,222 I think he would have liked to go out in a blaze of glory. 409 00:20:06,530 --> 00:20:09,531 He's really affecting a large area, you know? 410 00:20:09,534 --> 00:20:12,001 I don't think it's just that house. 411 00:20:12,004 --> 00:20:14,037 [ Woman screams] 412 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,126 I think he does go into homes, 413 00:20:18,129 --> 00:20:20,296 and I think he spies a lot. 414 00:20:22,284 --> 00:20:26,203 He might be attracted to that negativity of the living. 415 00:20:26,207 --> 00:20:29,391 But I do feel like he has ill intent here. 416 00:20:43,685 --> 00:20:46,419 STEVE: So far, I know the previous owner of my clients' property 417 00:20:46,422 --> 00:20:49,790 was run out of town and died from a mysterious illness. 418 00:20:49,793 --> 00:20:51,293 But I need to see 419 00:20:51,296 --> 00:20:53,329 if there's anything else that could help my case. 420 00:20:55,367 --> 00:20:56,867 Searching through old records, 421 00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:59,137 I find a deadly fight between two neighbors 422 00:20:59,139 --> 00:21:02,073 right next to Terry and Bobby's property. 423 00:21:04,964 --> 00:21:06,847 I want to know more about this deadly feud, 424 00:21:06,849 --> 00:21:08,766 so I've reached out to a local police sheriff 425 00:21:08,769 --> 00:21:10,052 to look into it for me, 426 00:21:10,054 --> 00:21:12,988 and he told me that this was a controversial case 427 00:21:12,991 --> 00:21:15,358 and that it tore the community apart. 428 00:21:21,536 --> 00:21:23,669 STEVE: Well, Sheriff Wolfe, thanks for meeting with me 429 00:21:23,672 --> 00:21:25,105 and helping me out with the case. 430 00:21:25,108 --> 00:21:26,774 The reason I got ahold of you is 431 00:21:26,776 --> 00:21:29,344 because of this article I came across about a homicide 432 00:21:29,347 --> 00:21:31,347 that happened very close to my clients' property. 433 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:33,917 This was a neighborhood feud between two gentlemen, 434 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,154 O.P. Beardsley and T.L. Perryman. 435 00:21:37,157 --> 00:21:42,694 And in 1886, we ended up with the first violent attack, 436 00:21:42,698 --> 00:21:46,600 and it was Perryman that ended up 437 00:21:46,603 --> 00:21:49,337 attacking Beardsley with a monkey wrench 438 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:54,143 and caused a pretty significant gash to him. 439 00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:59,550 And then, in 1888, Beardsley is walking with a cane, 440 00:21:59,554 --> 00:22:03,323 and Perryman comes across him and attacks him 441 00:22:03,326 --> 00:22:07,328 and actually breaks several of his ribs, 442 00:22:07,332 --> 00:22:12,168 puts a big gash on his head, and dislocates an eye. 443 00:22:12,171 --> 00:22:13,470 Now, do we have any idea 444 00:22:13,473 --> 00:22:15,006 what the hell they were fighting about to begin with? 445 00:22:15,008 --> 00:22:16,758 No one really seems to know. 446 00:22:16,761 --> 00:22:19,612 They just had a real dislike for each other. 447 00:22:19,615 --> 00:22:21,948 All right, so, now we got this guy Perryman 448 00:22:21,951 --> 00:22:24,218 giving Beardsley two beatings already... 449 00:22:24,220 --> 00:22:25,887 bad beatings, it sounds like. 450 00:22:25,890 --> 00:22:26,922 Yes, very bad. 451 00:22:26,924 --> 00:22:28,257 But, according to the article, 452 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:30,627 Perryman is the victim of the homicide, 453 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:32,213 so what happened? 454 00:22:32,215 --> 00:22:35,049 Well, March 14th of 1889... 455 00:22:35,052 --> 00:22:36,068 Okay. 456 00:22:36,071 --> 00:22:38,738 Perryman comes out 457 00:22:38,741 --> 00:22:41,775 and does a staredown with Beardsley, 458 00:22:41,778 --> 00:22:44,779 who is working on a fence with some other folks. 459 00:22:44,782 --> 00:22:46,982 Thinking he might have another beating coming, 460 00:22:46,985 --> 00:22:49,152 Beardsley ends up going to the house... 461 00:22:49,154 --> 00:22:50,787 Okay... and he gets a gun. 462 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:54,425 Beardsley goes back outside, and Beardsley shoots him. 463 00:22:54,428 --> 00:22:56,562 Just like that? There's no altercation? 464 00:22:56,565 --> 00:22:58,565 Just shoots him in the street. 465 00:22:58,568 --> 00:22:59,984 And, apparently, was shot 466 00:22:59,986 --> 00:23:03,287 once in the heart and once in the back. 467 00:23:03,290 --> 00:23:04,673 Oh, geez. Okay. 468 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:05,808 So, what happens next? 469 00:23:05,810 --> 00:23:07,894 Oh, he turned himself in to the sheriff. 470 00:23:07,897 --> 00:23:09,296 Did it go to trial? 471 00:23:09,298 --> 00:23:10,347 Yes, it did. 472 00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:12,851 He was found not guilty and acquitted. 473 00:23:16,725 --> 00:23:17,974 How's this guy not guilty 474 00:23:17,976 --> 00:23:20,026 when he shoots a guy down in cold blood? 475 00:23:20,029 --> 00:23:22,530 A jury of his peers must have felt 476 00:23:22,533 --> 00:23:24,466 that he was defending himself. 477 00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:32,676 I'm feeling, like, an impact... 478 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:33,813 in my back. 479 00:23:33,815 --> 00:23:35,381 Uh... 480 00:23:35,384 --> 00:23:40,354 And it's like a wall, like something just goes "Boom!" 481 00:23:41,225 --> 00:23:44,126 It was daytime. It was the middle of the day. 482 00:23:44,129 --> 00:23:48,331 He's probably in his late 30s or early 40s. 483 00:23:48,334 --> 00:23:51,969 And it totally shocks him... like, totally out of the blue. 484 00:23:55,278 --> 00:23:57,928 Terry mentioned that his house was physically picked up 485 00:23:57,931 --> 00:23:59,114 and moved at one point. 486 00:23:59,116 --> 00:24:02,350 So I checked into it, and he's right. 487 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,120 It was moved about 18 miles from here. 488 00:24:04,123 --> 00:24:06,390 I've reached out to an old friend of mine, 489 00:24:06,393 --> 00:24:09,110 Jeff Davis, who's an author, and he said he's got information 490 00:24:09,112 --> 00:24:10,812 that will definitely help my case. 491 00:24:17,741 --> 00:24:19,741 All right, so, this is the property 492 00:24:19,743 --> 00:24:22,344 that the house I'm investigating was moved from? 493 00:24:22,347 --> 00:24:24,247 Yes, it was built here and then moved 494 00:24:24,250 --> 00:24:27,251 about 17 or 18 miles to where you first saw it. 495 00:24:27,254 --> 00:24:29,337 You had mentioned on the phone 496 00:24:29,340 --> 00:24:31,774 that the original owner of this land 497 00:24:31,776 --> 00:24:33,392 had an interesting story. 498 00:24:33,395 --> 00:24:35,696 Well, the original landowner is a man named John Johnson. 499 00:24:35,699 --> 00:24:37,165 And there's his photo. 500 00:24:37,167 --> 00:24:40,568 And he settled here originally in 1845. 501 00:24:40,572 --> 00:24:43,206 And here's his house. 502 00:24:43,209 --> 00:24:45,009 So, what happens to this guy? 503 00:24:45,011 --> 00:24:48,145 He had tragedy after tragedy for a period of about 15 years. 504 00:24:48,148 --> 00:24:50,899 Within hours of arriving on the property, 505 00:24:50,902 --> 00:24:53,002 his father died of pneumonia. 506 00:24:53,005 --> 00:24:54,922 Okay. So his father dies. 507 00:24:54,925 --> 00:24:56,524 - Yes. - What else happened? 508 00:24:56,526 --> 00:24:58,026 And then in 1857, 509 00:24:58,029 --> 00:25:02,131 his 5-year-old nephew, Persis, died of meningitis. 510 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:06,169 And then three months later, in January of 1858, 511 00:25:06,173 --> 00:25:08,340 his father-in-law, James Taylor, died, 512 00:25:08,342 --> 00:25:10,075 and he lived right next door. 513 00:25:10,078 --> 00:25:14,981 1865, one of his other nephews, James, died of diphtheria. 514 00:25:14,985 --> 00:25:16,518 What a horrible death. 515 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,919 - Yeah. - All right. 516 00:25:17,922 --> 00:25:19,922 So, now he's got all these family members dying. 517 00:25:19,924 --> 00:25:21,024 Well, that's not all. 518 00:25:21,027 --> 00:25:25,095 On July 9, 1877, it was about 6:00 A.M., 519 00:25:25,098 --> 00:25:27,832 and his wife called him. 520 00:25:27,835 --> 00:25:29,585 See, she was in the house, 521 00:25:29,588 --> 00:25:31,805 and he was out in the barn, doing chores. 522 00:25:31,808 --> 00:25:32,974 And so he didn't come, 523 00:25:32,976 --> 00:25:35,310 and so she went into the barn to find him, 524 00:25:35,313 --> 00:25:37,079 and that's when she found him 525 00:25:37,082 --> 00:25:38,782 actually hanging from the rafters. 526 00:25:40,019 --> 00:25:41,102 Why? For what reason? 527 00:25:41,104 --> 00:25:43,387 I don't know. The family didn't know, either. 528 00:25:43,390 --> 00:25:45,991 Okay. So, 1877, he kills himself. 529 00:25:45,994 --> 00:25:47,493 How old is he at this point? He was 61. 530 00:25:47,495 --> 00:25:49,495 Now, let me ask you a question. 531 00:25:49,498 --> 00:25:51,231 Are any of them buried on the property? 532 00:25:51,234 --> 00:25:53,101 They're all buried here. 533 00:25:55,973 --> 00:25:57,740 [Groans] 534 00:25:57,743 --> 00:26:00,210 [Groans] 535 00:26:00,213 --> 00:26:02,580 Definitely a broken neck. 536 00:26:02,583 --> 00:26:04,750 Oh, this is bad. 537 00:26:04,752 --> 00:26:07,186 This is not done well. 538 00:26:12,229 --> 00:26:13,995 It's a male... old. 539 00:26:13,998 --> 00:26:15,198 Uh... 540 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,900 I'd say he's, like, in his 60s. 541 00:26:17,903 --> 00:26:19,870 He's white. 542 00:26:19,873 --> 00:26:22,374 I think... I don't know... it might have been an accident. 543 00:26:22,376 --> 00:26:24,993 An accidental hanging? 544 00:26:27,649 --> 00:26:30,016 Um... 545 00:26:30,019 --> 00:26:33,154 Because it's so badly done. 546 00:26:40,534 --> 00:26:43,068 I saw several entities during my walk, 547 00:26:43,071 --> 00:26:46,689 but the group of tricksters surrounding a living person 548 00:26:46,692 --> 00:26:48,342 had me the most concerned. 549 00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:52,914 They were probably about 3 or 4 feet tall. 550 00:26:52,917 --> 00:26:57,770 They had large heads, they're pitch-black, 551 00:26:57,774 --> 00:27:00,825 and they were all around the bed, staring at the person. 552 00:27:05,334 --> 00:27:06,767 Is this what you saw? 553 00:27:06,769 --> 00:27:08,903 Yes, this is what I saw. 554 00:27:28,816 --> 00:27:31,450 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 555 00:27:31,453 --> 00:27:33,086 we're ready to reveal our findings 556 00:27:33,088 --> 00:27:36,290 to each other and our clients for the first time. 557 00:27:36,294 --> 00:27:38,327 Amy, I'd like you to meet Terry, 558 00:27:38,329 --> 00:27:39,979 and this is his partner, Bobby. 559 00:27:39,982 --> 00:27:45,869 They live here with Terry's 7-year-old grandson, Ashton. 560 00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:46,872 Okay. 561 00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:49,341 Now, we've been doing investigations 562 00:27:49,344 --> 00:27:51,678 for quite a time now, but these guys have 563 00:27:51,681 --> 00:27:53,747 some of the wildest stories I've ever heard. 564 00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:56,251 They called us in 'cause they can't take it anymore. 565 00:27:56,254 --> 00:27:58,654 It's affecting their relationship, Terry's health, 566 00:27:58,656 --> 00:28:00,923 and, most importantly, it's affecting Ashton. 567 00:28:04,482 --> 00:28:06,031 How long have you lived here? 568 00:28:06,033 --> 00:28:07,967 About four years. 569 00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:10,470 Four years. When did the activity start? 570 00:28:10,473 --> 00:28:12,206 BOBBY: When we moved in. 571 00:28:14,211 --> 00:28:17,479 This was a very unusual walk. 572 00:28:17,482 --> 00:28:21,351 I've actually never encountered anything quite like this. 573 00:28:21,354 --> 00:28:24,321 When I went into the house, 574 00:28:24,325 --> 00:28:27,627 I actually couldn't trust anything I was seeing, 575 00:28:27,630 --> 00:28:32,349 anything I was hearing, anything I was feeling. 576 00:28:32,352 --> 00:28:36,154 It was insane, really. It was insane. 577 00:28:38,511 --> 00:28:40,561 I'm gonna back up, though, 578 00:28:40,563 --> 00:28:44,482 and I'm gonna talk about what I got outside first. 579 00:28:44,486 --> 00:28:46,736 I walked up the driveway, 580 00:28:46,738 --> 00:28:53,009 and there was this older man... probably in his 60s. 581 00:28:53,014 --> 00:28:55,731 He was outside, and he was getting down from something, 582 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,602 and he hung himself. 583 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,610 But it was horribly done and extremely painful. 584 00:29:05,614 --> 00:29:10,350 I can't believe she actually saw something like this, 585 00:29:10,354 --> 00:29:11,687 because it didn't happen here. 586 00:29:11,689 --> 00:29:15,223 Their house was actually moved here... Oh. 587 00:29:15,226 --> 00:29:16,859 From about 18 miles away. 588 00:29:16,862 --> 00:29:18,028 Okay. 589 00:29:18,030 --> 00:29:21,198 This guy John Johnson lived on the property 590 00:29:21,202 --> 00:29:23,602 that the house came from. 591 00:29:23,604 --> 00:29:25,304 This is the farmland where he lived. 592 00:29:26,926 --> 00:29:28,843 Settled in 1851. 593 00:29:28,845 --> 00:29:31,946 Now, this guy had bad luck from the minute he got there. 594 00:29:31,949 --> 00:29:33,615 His father died of pneumonia 595 00:29:33,618 --> 00:29:35,185 within hours of getting to the property, 596 00:29:35,187 --> 00:29:37,954 and then he lost a nephew, his father-in-law, 597 00:29:37,957 --> 00:29:39,173 then another nephew. 598 00:29:39,176 --> 00:29:44,396 So, on July 9, 1877, he goes out into the barn. 599 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,936 His wife goes to find him, and he's hanging. 600 00:29:48,939 --> 00:29:50,305 He committed suicide. 601 00:29:52,611 --> 00:29:54,945 So, the guy you saw, you said, was in his 60s. 602 00:29:54,947 --> 00:29:57,047 This guy Johnson died at the age of 61. 603 00:29:58,452 --> 00:30:01,153 Now, I was able to locate a photo of him. 604 00:30:03,659 --> 00:30:06,794 TERRY: Oh, my. 605 00:30:09,066 --> 00:30:11,333 [Breathes shakily] 606 00:30:11,336 --> 00:30:12,635 What's the matter? 607 00:30:12,638 --> 00:30:14,671 I've seen him. 608 00:30:14,673 --> 00:30:18,475 That's the old man from the hallway. 609 00:30:18,479 --> 00:30:22,081 I was in my house one day, 610 00:30:22,084 --> 00:30:25,285 and I just happened to glance up in the mirror, 611 00:30:25,288 --> 00:30:26,521 and behind me... 612 00:30:27,525 --> 00:30:30,692 It looked just like him. 613 00:30:30,695 --> 00:30:33,997 And it looked like he was coming after me. 614 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,034 I ran down the hallway and slammed the door behind me, 615 00:30:37,037 --> 00:30:38,403 it scared me so bad. 616 00:30:39,891 --> 00:30:41,808 Does this guy look familiar to you at all? 617 00:30:41,811 --> 00:30:44,278 Oh, yeah. 618 00:30:44,281 --> 00:30:45,580 I'm a little creeped out 619 00:30:45,582 --> 00:30:47,949 knowing that he came from another property. 620 00:30:47,952 --> 00:30:51,187 I didn't even think anything like that could be possible. 621 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:52,355 Yes, it is. 622 00:30:52,358 --> 00:30:55,726 The dead can form all sorts of attachments. 623 00:30:55,729 --> 00:30:56,995 Wow. 624 00:31:01,838 --> 00:31:04,171 When I went into the house, 625 00:31:04,174 --> 00:31:08,043 the first thing that I saw was this living male. 626 00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:13,217 And he seemed very angry and upset, 627 00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:17,989 and he was kind of yelling and screaming, very emotional, 628 00:31:17,993 --> 00:31:23,296 and I saw that he had brown hair and he was in his 40s. 629 00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:27,135 It's me. 630 00:31:28,540 --> 00:31:29,756 [Gasps] 631 00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,277 Yeah, I'm kind of confrontational with the ghosts. 632 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,882 When I can't get any sleep, I get up and I yell at them. 633 00:31:36,885 --> 00:31:39,318 Okay. 634 00:31:39,321 --> 00:31:43,557 The other thing that I got... 635 00:31:43,561 --> 00:31:46,362 [Sighs] 636 00:31:46,365 --> 00:31:50,600 There is somebody at the location with abilities. 637 00:31:52,423 --> 00:31:55,207 And their dominant ability is telepathy. 638 00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:56,509 [Gasps] 639 00:31:56,511 --> 00:32:00,780 The telepath can manipulate the minds of those around them 640 00:32:00,784 --> 00:32:04,819 into perceiving what they're perceiving. 641 00:32:04,822 --> 00:32:07,924 STEVE: So, there's only two guys living in this place. 642 00:32:07,927 --> 00:32:09,509 Which one of these two is the telepath? 643 00:32:12,767 --> 00:32:15,501 Well, right away, when I sat down... 644 00:32:15,504 --> 00:32:19,372 and you know I did not know their names... 645 00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,425 I wrote this down. Oh, geez. Look at that. 646 00:32:21,428 --> 00:32:22,377 Yeah. 647 00:32:22,379 --> 00:32:23,912 She put your first initial down. 648 00:32:29,189 --> 00:32:30,755 Wow. 649 00:32:30,757 --> 00:32:35,577 I've always kind of felt like maybe I was sensitive 650 00:32:35,581 --> 00:32:37,731 or had some weird type of power. 651 00:32:37,734 --> 00:32:41,502 I would say my moods are contagious. 652 00:32:43,709 --> 00:32:45,675 Sure explains a lot, don't it? 653 00:32:47,547 --> 00:32:49,580 It makes sense. 654 00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:56,889 We also have these other things that are here, 655 00:32:56,893 --> 00:33:01,062 and what I'll call them is the tricksters. 656 00:33:02,401 --> 00:33:05,018 Typically, a trickster is associated 657 00:33:05,021 --> 00:33:07,538 with Native American tribes, but they're all over the world. 658 00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:09,841 But that's not what's going on here. 659 00:33:09,844 --> 00:33:12,044 This is where it gets very unusual. 660 00:33:12,047 --> 00:33:14,514 There's about 50 of them. 661 00:33:14,517 --> 00:33:16,283 [Gasps] 662 00:33:16,285 --> 00:33:21,989 These guys are causing all kinds of chaos. 663 00:33:21,993 --> 00:33:26,129 They like to feed off of negative environments. 664 00:33:28,036 --> 00:33:30,236 They're about like 3 or 4 feet tall, 665 00:33:30,238 --> 00:33:33,072 shiny... very shiny... black, like, glistening. 666 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:36,310 STEVE: Well, they've seen them. 667 00:33:36,313 --> 00:33:39,214 One of the many things that these guys experience here. 668 00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:40,050 Yeah. 669 00:33:42,288 --> 00:33:44,121 I had an experience... 670 00:33:44,123 --> 00:33:46,524 three of them at the foot of my bed. 671 00:33:46,527 --> 00:33:47,659 Oh, yes. 672 00:33:47,662 --> 00:33:49,912 I jumped out of the bed, I ran through them, 673 00:33:49,914 --> 00:33:51,898 and got out into the hallway. 674 00:33:51,901 --> 00:33:55,936 I am awakened every night by these things. 675 00:33:55,939 --> 00:33:57,839 Wow. Okay. 676 00:33:57,842 --> 00:34:02,144 The thing about the bed is, when I was in that middle room, 677 00:34:02,148 --> 00:34:04,716 I actually did see them getting and having a good time... 678 00:34:04,719 --> 00:34:06,635 That's where I always see them. 679 00:34:06,637 --> 00:34:09,671 And jumping on the bed, and they were having a blast. 680 00:34:11,227 --> 00:34:14,528 Here, they're more aggressive. 681 00:34:14,531 --> 00:34:16,665 They're, like, jumping on the bed 682 00:34:16,668 --> 00:34:19,318 like they're having a good time, 683 00:34:19,321 --> 00:34:21,538 barking and growling. 684 00:34:21,541 --> 00:34:22,807 [Growling] 685 00:34:22,809 --> 00:34:25,977 And that's where Ashton sleeps. 686 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:30,117 One night, I heard him scream in the middle of the night, 687 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,753 and he came running out, and he swore 688 00:34:31,755 --> 00:34:34,288 there was red eyes in the closet staring right at him, 689 00:34:34,291 --> 00:34:36,041 that they were coming at him. 690 00:34:37,562 --> 00:34:39,829 He's scared to death. 691 00:34:39,832 --> 00:34:43,951 These things can manipulate what you see, 692 00:34:43,954 --> 00:34:48,073 and, you know, most often, 693 00:34:48,077 --> 00:34:51,945 they'll actually appear as animals and things like that. 694 00:34:51,948 --> 00:34:53,948 Tell her. 695 00:34:55,186 --> 00:34:56,852 I was laying in bed one night, 696 00:34:56,855 --> 00:34:59,439 and I saw a little fawn actually hop through the window, 697 00:34:59,442 --> 00:35:01,159 and it hopped in front of the bed 698 00:35:01,161 --> 00:35:03,161 and then just booked it down the hallway. 699 00:35:03,164 --> 00:35:04,630 Okay. 700 00:35:05,834 --> 00:35:07,333 It's really bad. 701 00:35:07,336 --> 00:35:08,586 [Sniffles] 702 00:35:16,182 --> 00:35:17,981 The other thing was, 703 00:35:17,983 --> 00:35:23,720 these guys are going to draw from you any kind of negativity 704 00:35:23,724 --> 00:35:26,609 because that's gonna feed them, 705 00:35:26,612 --> 00:35:30,864 so these things will bring up these done and over issues, 706 00:35:30,868 --> 00:35:33,035 like past traumas 707 00:35:33,038 --> 00:35:35,305 or bad things that have happened in a person's life. 708 00:35:35,308 --> 00:35:37,224 They'll, like, trigger that, 709 00:35:37,226 --> 00:35:39,476 and then you're thinking about it and thinking about it 710 00:35:39,479 --> 00:35:40,946 and talking about it and talking about it, 711 00:35:40,949 --> 00:35:42,765 and it's just feeding it and feeding it. 712 00:35:42,767 --> 00:35:44,150 Do you know what I'm saying? 713 00:35:47,858 --> 00:35:49,691 [Voice breaking] I think about that all the time. 714 00:35:51,095 --> 00:35:53,546 I don't tell anybody that. 715 00:35:56,502 --> 00:35:58,970 [Sniffles] 716 00:35:58,973 --> 00:36:02,407 It just makes you feel like no matter how much good you do, 717 00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:03,693 you'll never make up 718 00:36:03,696 --> 00:36:06,680 for every bad thing you've ever done in your life. 719 00:36:06,683 --> 00:36:09,017 [Sniffles] 720 00:36:09,019 --> 00:36:13,071 But when I'm not here, I never think it. 721 00:36:14,877 --> 00:36:17,995 Sometimes I stay long at school so I don't have to. 722 00:36:21,169 --> 00:36:22,602 He thinks I don't want to come home. 723 00:36:22,604 --> 00:36:24,337 I don't want to... 724 00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:27,308 I want something to think about that's different. 725 00:36:29,581 --> 00:36:31,381 I told nobody about that. 726 00:36:34,387 --> 00:36:35,803 I'm sorry. 727 00:36:40,529 --> 00:36:42,329 So, everything she's saying 728 00:36:42,331 --> 00:36:44,831 is making sense to both of you guys? 729 00:36:46,137 --> 00:36:49,271 So, I did have a sketch done 730 00:36:49,274 --> 00:36:51,675 of what I saw in the master bedroom. 731 00:36:57,284 --> 00:36:58,283 Ooh. 732 00:37:00,656 --> 00:37:02,489 [Gasps] 733 00:37:07,966 --> 00:37:11,767 Oh, my God. 734 00:37:25,091 --> 00:37:27,491 AMY: So, I did have a sketch done 735 00:37:27,494 --> 00:37:30,095 of what I saw in the master bedroom. 736 00:37:33,836 --> 00:37:34,835 Ooh. 737 00:37:37,208 --> 00:37:39,775 [Gasps] 738 00:37:41,380 --> 00:37:45,298 Oh, my God. 739 00:37:53,613 --> 00:37:56,047 And this is where I see them, 740 00:37:56,050 --> 00:37:59,000 is around the bottom corner of my bed. 741 00:37:59,003 --> 00:38:01,871 No wonder I'm not getting any sleep. 742 00:38:01,874 --> 00:38:04,358 Are they, like, physically capable 743 00:38:04,361 --> 00:38:06,261 of pulling the covers off of me? 744 00:38:06,264 --> 00:38:07,113 Yes. 745 00:38:08,015 --> 00:38:09,882 Oh, no. 746 00:38:09,885 --> 00:38:13,353 These tricksters have a leader. 747 00:38:13,356 --> 00:38:16,524 I saw him outside. 748 00:38:16,527 --> 00:38:20,162 When he was alive, he was a very strong, powerful man, 749 00:38:20,166 --> 00:38:25,703 and he did have a lot of power placed upon him. 750 00:38:27,142 --> 00:38:28,908 He was in charge of a lot of people. 751 00:38:28,911 --> 00:38:32,479 He was from probably, I think, about 80 to 100 years ago. 752 00:38:32,482 --> 00:38:36,584 He was extremely pissed off about the way he died 753 00:38:36,587 --> 00:38:38,854 because he didn't want to die that way. 754 00:38:38,857 --> 00:38:40,824 He should have died, like, in a blaze of glory. 755 00:38:40,827 --> 00:38:42,326 Okay, so, this guy was powerful 756 00:38:42,328 --> 00:38:44,128 and was in charge of a lot of people? 757 00:38:44,131 --> 00:38:45,631 Yes. 758 00:38:45,634 --> 00:38:47,901 So, the original owner of the property you're on now 759 00:38:47,903 --> 00:38:49,702 was this guy Alva Shaw. 760 00:38:49,705 --> 00:38:50,955 He was very well-connected. 761 00:38:50,958 --> 00:38:52,958 Matter of fact, he was so well-connected, 762 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,077 he was appointed by the governor in 1864 763 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,582 to be the superintendent of the state penitentiary in Portland. 764 00:38:59,586 --> 00:39:01,352 Problem was, he wasn't good at it. 765 00:39:01,354 --> 00:39:02,937 When he was running the penitentiary, 766 00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:03,956 44 prisoners escaped. 767 00:39:03,958 --> 00:39:04,957 [Gasps] 768 00:39:04,959 --> 00:39:07,126 Only 13 were ever recaptured. 769 00:39:07,129 --> 00:39:11,097 So, on August 27, 1866, 770 00:39:11,101 --> 00:39:12,734 eight prisoners take him hostage. 771 00:39:12,736 --> 00:39:16,371 He was able to break away, but a bunch of them escaped. 772 00:39:16,374 --> 00:39:17,874 Only five were recaptured. 773 00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:19,243 The next morning, 774 00:39:19,246 --> 00:39:21,847 he wakes up to an editorial calling him a disgrace 775 00:39:21,849 --> 00:39:24,316 and that he doesn't know how to run a prison 776 00:39:24,319 --> 00:39:27,837 and he caused this whole thing to happen. 777 00:39:27,841 --> 00:39:32,293 Now, this is him at a younger age. 778 00:39:32,296 --> 00:39:34,330 Now, he died in 1880 at the age of 64 779 00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,833 after a 13-hour illness. 780 00:39:36,836 --> 00:39:38,069 He just died. 781 00:39:38,071 --> 00:39:40,555 So, he didn't definitely go out in a blaze of glory. 782 00:39:40,558 --> 00:39:41,707 That's for sure. 783 00:39:41,709 --> 00:39:43,709 I don't know if this is the person or not. 784 00:39:43,712 --> 00:39:45,245 I really don't. 785 00:39:47,416 --> 00:39:49,350 This is so overwhelming. 786 00:39:49,353 --> 00:39:51,753 I never expected this much. 787 00:39:51,756 --> 00:39:54,824 I mean, I knew there was a lot going on, but wow. 788 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,434 So, guys, you know why you've been fighting. 789 00:40:02,437 --> 00:40:04,971 You know why your moods have been changing. 790 00:40:04,974 --> 00:40:07,308 You know why you're hearing and seeing things. 791 00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:08,776 But the big question is, 792 00:40:08,779 --> 00:40:11,480 are you gonna be able to raise Ashton here in a safe place? 793 00:40:11,483 --> 00:40:14,050 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 794 00:40:16,991 --> 00:40:19,691 A lot of things have to be attacked at the same time 795 00:40:19,694 --> 00:40:22,295 to get a good, good result. 796 00:40:22,298 --> 00:40:25,032 So, the first thing is the dead guy, the leader... 797 00:40:25,035 --> 00:40:27,235 He needs to go. 798 00:40:27,237 --> 00:40:30,071 So, what I would like to see happen with him 799 00:40:30,074 --> 00:40:33,526 is a physical medium to come in, talk to him, 800 00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:35,280 and get him to leave. 801 00:40:35,282 --> 00:40:38,116 But, at the same time, 802 00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:41,287 you also need to have a shaman come in, 803 00:40:41,290 --> 00:40:44,357 and what I want that person to do 804 00:40:44,361 --> 00:40:47,229 is to set up a perimeter around your property, 805 00:40:47,232 --> 00:40:48,898 and I mean big. 806 00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,267 Like, all the way around, okay? 807 00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:54,521 This is gonna push these tricksters out. 808 00:40:54,524 --> 00:40:56,775 So, once that's done, 809 00:40:56,778 --> 00:40:59,045 you have to deal with your abilities. 810 00:40:59,048 --> 00:41:01,031 Start keeping a daily journal. 811 00:41:01,033 --> 00:41:04,484 And what I want you to do is to write up any and all issues 812 00:41:04,488 --> 00:41:06,956 that create strong emotions within you. 813 00:41:06,959 --> 00:41:08,858 Once a week, I want you to take all those pages 814 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:11,027 that you've written all this stuff in 815 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:14,332 and burn it and just get rid of that. 816 00:41:14,335 --> 00:41:16,969 Put it away and out from you. 817 00:41:18,574 --> 00:41:20,507 Now, I spoke to Ashton. He's 7 years old. 818 00:41:20,509 --> 00:41:22,543 He really doesn't understand what's going on here, 819 00:41:22,546 --> 00:41:23,878 but he's scared. 820 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,047 How long do you think before he'll maybe feel better 821 00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:27,116 about things in the house? 822 00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,671 He'll feel a lot better 823 00:41:30,674 --> 00:41:34,042 once the shaman's moved all of the tricksters 824 00:41:34,045 --> 00:41:35,427 off the property. 825 00:41:37,466 --> 00:41:39,232 So, are you guys gonna take Amy's advice? 826 00:41:39,235 --> 00:41:40,868 Every step of the way. 827 00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:42,286 We're gonna get it taken care of. 828 00:41:42,289 --> 00:41:43,538 I want them out of my house. 829 00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:44,873 Now it's payback. 830 00:41:44,876 --> 00:41:48,177 They're gonna pay. 831 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:49,613 They're gonna go. 832 00:41:49,616 --> 00:41:53,752 AMY: I really hope Terry and Bobby follow my advice 833 00:41:53,755 --> 00:41:58,090 and deal with the tricksters terrorizing their family. 834 00:41:58,094 --> 00:41:59,961 With the help of a medium and a shaman, 835 00:41:59,963 --> 00:42:02,230 they should be able to free themselves of the evil 836 00:42:02,233 --> 00:42:03,899 surrounding their home. 837 00:42:03,949 --> 00:42:08,499 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62365

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