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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,377 --> 00:00:12,889 AMY: Something kills people here. 2 00:00:12,891 --> 00:00:15,861 Lots of pain. 3 00:00:15,863 --> 00:00:18,466 This isn't normal. There's something going on. 4 00:00:18,468 --> 00:00:21,805 Really strong. 5 00:00:21,807 --> 00:00:24,581 Something's grabbing my arm and hurting me. 6 00:00:24,583 --> 00:00:26,253 And then, she's screaming. 7 00:00:28,592 --> 00:00:30,762 He was classified as insane. 8 00:00:31,666 --> 00:00:33,637 This is not good. 9 00:00:33,639 --> 00:00:36,042 They're being tortured. 10 00:00:36,044 --> 00:00:38,715 Something bad's going to happen. 11 00:00:38,717 --> 00:00:41,621 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:41,623 --> 00:00:42,990 There's panic. 13 00:00:42,992 --> 00:00:44,425 And it's almost like a butchering. 14 00:00:44,427 --> 00:00:45,495 I see dead people. 15 00:00:45,497 --> 00:00:47,633 They all died horribly. 16 00:00:47,635 --> 00:00:49,337 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:49,339 --> 00:00:50,741 Get out of here. 18 00:00:50,743 --> 00:00:52,376 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:52,378 --> 00:00:54,415 Vicious. 20 00:00:54,417 --> 00:00:57,563 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:57,565 --> 00:00:59,268 It doesn't matter where you are. I'll find you. 22 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:00,836 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:00,838 --> 00:01:02,473 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:02,475 --> 00:01:04,376 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:04,378 --> 00:01:06,079 This guy's a real piece of work. 26 00:01:06,081 --> 00:01:09,755 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:09,757 --> 00:01:11,258 I feel like I live in a house of Hell. 28 00:01:11,260 --> 00:01:12,426 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:12,428 --> 00:01:14,699 This is not good. 30 00:01:14,701 --> 00:01:16,437 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:18,473 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:18,475 --> 00:01:20,242 Until the very end. 33 00:01:20,244 --> 00:01:21,713 I want my life back. 34 00:01:21,715 --> 00:01:24,185 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:24,187 --> 00:01:25,788 - Is he trying to kill her? - [Sobs] 36 00:01:25,790 --> 00:01:27,057 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:27,059 --> 00:01:28,728 Oh, my god. 38 00:01:28,730 --> 00:01:30,065 This is going to kill us. 39 00:01:31,218 --> 00:01:35,390 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 40 00:01:43,732 --> 00:01:46,072 STEVE: I'm in the small town of Falconer, New York. 41 00:01:46,074 --> 00:01:47,941 It's about an hour south of Buffalo. 42 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:50,914 I received a call from a woman named Sheila. 43 00:01:50,916 --> 00:01:53,688 She said there's something very wrong in her new home. 44 00:01:53,690 --> 00:01:56,560 The activity is nonstop, and it's violent. 45 00:01:56,562 --> 00:01:58,266 Everybody in the house is living in fear. 46 00:01:58,268 --> 00:02:01,003 But Sheila says her 14-year-old daughter is 47 00:02:01,005 --> 00:02:02,504 getting the worst of it. 48 00:02:02,506 --> 00:02:04,741 She says she may be in grave danger. 49 00:02:10,450 --> 00:02:12,086 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 50 00:02:12,088 --> 00:02:16,458 I look for anything that might influence her findings. 51 00:02:16,460 --> 00:02:17,727 Once all the family photos 52 00:02:17,729 --> 00:02:19,832 and personal items are covered or removed, 53 00:02:19,834 --> 00:02:22,536 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:02:38,531 --> 00:02:40,264 AMY: Oh, boy. 55 00:02:42,067 --> 00:02:45,873 I'm getting lots of anger and drugs. 56 00:02:45,875 --> 00:02:49,278 Someone is sick. 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,282 MATTHEW: Currently? 58 00:02:51,284 --> 00:02:52,885 It feels like it. 59 00:02:54,621 --> 00:02:56,991 Lots of pain. 60 00:02:58,663 --> 00:03:00,131 [bleep] 61 00:03:00,133 --> 00:03:02,801 Ugh, this person is a disaster. 62 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:12,210 STEVE: Sheila, when we spoke on the phone, 63 00:03:12,212 --> 00:03:14,011 I know you were upset, 64 00:03:14,013 --> 00:03:16,549 and it sounds like you've got a problem here. 65 00:03:16,551 --> 00:03:18,187 Tell me a little bit about what's going on. 66 00:03:18,189 --> 00:03:22,193 It seems like something is targeting my daughter. 67 00:03:22,195 --> 00:03:24,430 It's very hard for her to be here. 68 00:03:24,432 --> 00:03:26,366 She doesn't want to be here. 69 00:03:26,368 --> 00:03:28,635 There's nothing I can do to protect her 70 00:03:28,637 --> 00:03:30,838 'cause I don't know what's going on. 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,108 I mean, she's having experiences every day. 72 00:03:34,110 --> 00:03:35,743 She's having a lot of stomach issues, 73 00:03:35,745 --> 00:03:37,914 and the doctors can't find anything wrong with her. 74 00:03:37,916 --> 00:03:40,016 At one point, she had bruises on her hand 75 00:03:40,018 --> 00:03:41,985 that looked like somebody grabbed her. 76 00:03:43,588 --> 00:03:46,687 And that was really what prompted me 77 00:03:46,689 --> 00:03:49,653 to try and find somebody to help us. 78 00:03:49,655 --> 00:03:52,894 So, who exactly is living in the house? 79 00:03:52,896 --> 00:03:56,229 That's my husband, George. 80 00:03:56,231 --> 00:03:58,200 - This is my daughter, Sara. - Sara? 81 00:03:58,202 --> 00:04:01,406 And that's my 15-year-old son, Nathan. 82 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:02,774 Okay. 83 00:04:02,776 --> 00:04:04,775 We've all had experiences. 84 00:04:04,777 --> 00:04:06,111 Okay. 85 00:04:06,113 --> 00:04:09,148 There's all kinds of noises in the house. 86 00:04:09,150 --> 00:04:11,915 We have a lot things that just come up missing. 87 00:04:11,917 --> 00:04:14,953 My back has been worse than it's ever been. 88 00:04:14,955 --> 00:04:17,356 Now, what kind of back pain are you talking about? 89 00:04:17,358 --> 00:04:19,524 Severe, stabbing pain, 90 00:04:19,526 --> 00:04:22,126 where sometimes it takes your breath away. 91 00:04:22,128 --> 00:04:25,228 And now it's to the point where, you know, 92 00:04:25,230 --> 00:04:28,063 I'm going to different doctors, having injections, 93 00:04:28,065 --> 00:04:31,567 and taking medication just so that I can basically do 94 00:04:31,569 --> 00:04:32,501 what I need to do. 95 00:04:33,802 --> 00:04:36,003 This isn't normal. There's something going on. 96 00:04:42,810 --> 00:04:45,378 AMY: A lot of pain, a lot of pain, physical pain. 97 00:04:45,380 --> 00:04:48,547 Somebody is [bleep] in a lot of [bleep] pain. 98 00:04:48,549 --> 00:04:54,420 It's really bad back pain, like super [bleep] bad. 99 00:05:01,957 --> 00:05:08,394 First, I have no idea how anybody [bleep] lives here. 100 00:05:11,466 --> 00:05:15,569 I don't know how they sleep. I don't know how they eat. 101 00:05:15,571 --> 00:05:19,973 I don't know how they can leave. 102 00:05:21,709 --> 00:05:24,774 And just the physical pain 103 00:05:24,776 --> 00:05:31,545 that I feel that they're dealing with is ridiculous. 104 00:05:37,282 --> 00:05:38,883 STEVE: So, Sheila, why did you bring me outside? 105 00:05:38,885 --> 00:05:41,652 I see somebody walking up the steps. 106 00:05:41,654 --> 00:05:43,554 And there's a couch right in there 107 00:05:43,556 --> 00:05:45,456 where I sit at night, 108 00:05:45,458 --> 00:05:47,560 and I'm thinking somebody's coming to the door. 109 00:05:47,562 --> 00:05:50,659 So, I'll get up and answer, you know, go to the door, 110 00:05:50,661 --> 00:05:52,095 and there's nobody there. 111 00:05:52,097 --> 00:05:54,865 Can you make out any features at all, like a face or anything. 112 00:05:54,867 --> 00:05:56,966 No, it kind of happens really quick, 113 00:05:56,968 --> 00:05:59,469 but it looks more like a shadowy figure. 114 00:05:59,471 --> 00:06:03,909 Okay, so, have you ever seen this figure anyplace else? 115 00:06:03,911 --> 00:06:05,578 Yes, inside the house. 116 00:06:05,580 --> 00:06:07,249 Okay, show me. 117 00:06:11,953 --> 00:06:13,754 SHEILA: I was sitting on that same couch, 118 00:06:13,756 --> 00:06:17,059 and I heard footsteps coming down these stairs, 119 00:06:17,061 --> 00:06:19,559 so I was looking to see who it was, 120 00:06:19,561 --> 00:06:21,294 and I never heard the door open, 121 00:06:21,296 --> 00:06:24,364 but, all of a sudden, I saw that same shadowy figure, 122 00:06:24,366 --> 00:06:27,563 like, look around the corner at me 123 00:06:27,565 --> 00:06:29,667 and then came right back towards this direction. 124 00:06:29,669 --> 00:06:31,269 All right, so, you come to investigate, 125 00:06:31,271 --> 00:06:32,971 and you're sure there was nobody down here? 126 00:06:32,973 --> 00:06:34,069 I'm positive. 127 00:06:34,071 --> 00:06:36,270 Okay, did you hear it go back up the steps? 128 00:06:36,272 --> 00:06:38,141 No, I did not. 129 00:06:38,143 --> 00:06:40,343 - Okay. - [Hinges squeak] 130 00:06:40,345 --> 00:06:42,812 And you definitely hear the door. 131 00:06:42,814 --> 00:06:46,081 I got no explanation for it other than what you're telling me. 132 00:06:46,083 --> 00:06:48,116 What do you really hoping for us to do for you? 133 00:06:48,118 --> 00:06:50,885 Well, I'm hoping to be able to find out 134 00:06:50,887 --> 00:06:53,419 whatever it is that's hurting Sara. 135 00:06:53,421 --> 00:06:56,553 Just show us how or tell us how we can get rid of it 136 00:06:56,555 --> 00:06:59,022 so that we can have an everyday life, 137 00:06:59,024 --> 00:07:01,859 she can stay here without having to worry about being alone. 138 00:07:01,861 --> 00:07:03,328 I don't know what else I can do. 139 00:07:03,330 --> 00:07:06,131 Okay. 140 00:07:07,699 --> 00:07:10,302 AMY: [Groans] 141 00:07:10,304 --> 00:07:13,340 There's, like, this guy. 142 00:07:13,342 --> 00:07:15,406 He's super-religious... 143 00:07:15,408 --> 00:07:20,845 like super-religious. 144 00:07:20,847 --> 00:07:22,178 Wow. 145 00:07:23,247 --> 00:07:29,285 He wants everyone in this home to leave 146 00:07:29,287 --> 00:07:32,557 because they are unclean. 147 00:07:34,124 --> 00:07:36,891 So, you know, he's haunting the [bleep] out of them. 148 00:07:38,493 --> 00:07:39,893 MATTHEW: What does he do? 149 00:07:39,895 --> 00:07:42,062 He acts like a ghost. 150 00:07:42,064 --> 00:07:45,200 Out of here, he will stomp. 151 00:07:45,202 --> 00:07:47,705 Like, he'll... 152 00:07:47,707 --> 00:07:49,740 [Stomps, grumbles] 153 00:07:49,742 --> 00:07:55,477 He gives no privacy 154 00:07:55,479 --> 00:07:59,413 and lets it be known there's no privacy. 155 00:08:05,583 --> 00:08:07,917 So, Sara, I was talking to Mom earlier 156 00:08:07,919 --> 00:08:09,922 about the stuff that's going on here. 157 00:08:09,924 --> 00:08:11,525 And the reason I took this case is because of you 158 00:08:11,527 --> 00:08:13,258 and what she said you're going through. 159 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:16,559 She mentioned some physical problems. 160 00:08:16,561 --> 00:08:17,628 What's happening? 161 00:08:17,630 --> 00:08:19,730 Ever since we moved into this house, 162 00:08:19,732 --> 00:08:21,231 I've had really bad stomach pains 163 00:08:21,233 --> 00:08:24,199 that feel like someone's stabbing me all the time, 164 00:08:24,201 --> 00:08:27,038 and I've gone to like 10 doctors about it, 165 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,239 and none of them can figure out what's wrong. 166 00:08:29,241 --> 00:08:32,544 Is that the only physical thing you're having, I mean? 167 00:08:32,546 --> 00:08:34,881 I'll wake up at night, and I'll be getting scratched, 168 00:08:34,883 --> 00:08:36,381 and even the whole family, 169 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:39,318 like, says that it's centered around me. 170 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,623 These scratches that you're getting, I mean, 171 00:08:41,625 --> 00:08:43,257 how bad are we talking about? 172 00:08:43,259 --> 00:08:44,625 What are they looking like? 173 00:08:44,627 --> 00:08:46,626 They'll go away within three or four days, 174 00:08:46,628 --> 00:08:48,562 but I've had some that have scarred over. 175 00:08:48,564 --> 00:08:50,563 So I've had some bleeding. 176 00:08:50,565 --> 00:08:52,498 Where do you generally get these scratches? 177 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,800 On my thigh and my lower back. 178 00:08:54,802 --> 00:08:56,302 You have cats here. Yeah. 179 00:08:56,304 --> 00:08:57,804 Are we pretty sure it's not that? 180 00:08:57,806 --> 00:08:59,574 Yeah, 'cause I had them before the cats were here. 181 00:08:59,576 --> 00:09:00,709 Before the cats. 182 00:09:00,711 --> 00:09:02,343 Anything else physical happening to you? 183 00:09:02,345 --> 00:09:04,511 I've gotten bruises on my arm. 184 00:09:06,281 --> 00:09:07,848 What kind of bruises? 185 00:09:07,850 --> 00:09:11,015 Like, something's grabbing my arm and hurting me. 186 00:09:11,017 --> 00:09:14,082 It looked like four fingers going across, 187 00:09:14,084 --> 00:09:15,150 and they were really big, 188 00:09:15,152 --> 00:09:17,319 like, probably two times the size of my hand. 189 00:09:17,321 --> 00:09:19,321 - So, like a man's hands. - Yes. 190 00:09:22,692 --> 00:09:28,531 The religious guy, he prefers a particular woman here. 191 00:09:28,533 --> 00:09:31,899 I see him looming over her. 192 00:09:33,803 --> 00:09:38,473 He can make physical contact. Like, he just grabbed my head. 193 00:09:38,475 --> 00:09:41,845 He was making it known that he can touch me, 194 00:09:41,847 --> 00:09:45,612 and it felt like a tingling where his fingers would be, 195 00:09:45,614 --> 00:09:48,116 like down into my brain even. 196 00:09:48,118 --> 00:09:53,521 He gets super-big, smothering, you know, trying to smother. 197 00:09:53,523 --> 00:09:56,292 Pressure, panic. 198 00:09:56,294 --> 00:09:58,428 The way that he smothers people is 199 00:09:58,430 --> 00:10:02,228 he sticks his fingers in their mouth and down their... 200 00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:03,864 He makes people choke. 201 00:10:06,197 --> 00:10:08,864 He's like, "This is chaos, 202 00:10:08,866 --> 00:10:11,838 "and they need to fix it and take care of it 203 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:18,612 and accept Jesus Christ," into, you know, their lives. 204 00:10:18,614 --> 00:10:19,881 Okay. 205 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:25,592 Things going on all the time. 206 00:10:29,296 --> 00:10:31,598 They're being tortured. 207 00:10:52,443 --> 00:10:53,979 So, George, I was talking to Sheila, 208 00:10:53,981 --> 00:10:55,746 and you guys are practically newlyweds, right? 209 00:10:55,748 --> 00:10:56,848 Yes. 210 00:10:56,850 --> 00:10:59,286 But it seems like you can't even enjoy it. 211 00:10:59,288 --> 00:11:00,818 No. 212 00:11:00,820 --> 00:11:02,752 And I know you must be concerned for Sara, as well. 213 00:11:02,754 --> 00:11:05,188 Being the stepdad, it's my job to protect the family, 214 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:07,026 and it just freaks me out 215 00:11:07,028 --> 00:11:10,361 that I can't prevent what's happening to her. 216 00:11:10,363 --> 00:11:12,365 Do you ever experience anything? 217 00:11:12,367 --> 00:11:15,040 On two occasions, something was on the porch, 218 00:11:15,042 --> 00:11:19,107 so got the flashlight, and I took off toward the garage, 219 00:11:19,109 --> 00:11:22,776 and whatever it was went into the garage. 220 00:11:22,778 --> 00:11:26,714 Everything that was in its way was pushed aside. 221 00:11:26,716 --> 00:11:29,751 It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up 222 00:11:29,753 --> 00:11:33,719 because if I can't catch and if I can't see it 223 00:11:33,721 --> 00:11:35,689 and if I can't stop it, 224 00:11:35,691 --> 00:11:38,625 how can I stop it from coming into the house? 225 00:11:38,627 --> 00:11:40,694 So, George, with all this stuff going on in the house, 226 00:11:40,696 --> 00:11:42,396 have you tried any kind of... 227 00:11:42,398 --> 00:11:44,999 get help here or anything like that? 228 00:11:45,001 --> 00:11:47,634 One afternoon, somebody stopped by the house, 229 00:11:47,636 --> 00:11:49,838 and I'm like, "Excuse me. Can I help you? 230 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,507 Do you have the right house?" 231 00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:54,678 And he says, "Yeah, I'm from your wife's church." 232 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:58,784 He was wearing the old-style, black-rimmed hat... 233 00:11:58,786 --> 00:12:00,820 Okay. 234 00:12:00,822 --> 00:12:04,126 And a full-length black jacket. 235 00:12:04,128 --> 00:12:06,130 Like an old preacher type of thing? 236 00:12:06,132 --> 00:12:08,067 Yes, exactly like an old preacher, 237 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:10,505 like from the early 1900s maybe. 238 00:12:10,507 --> 00:12:13,705 So, he comes in, and he checks out the house, 239 00:12:13,707 --> 00:12:16,008 and he starts to make for the door. 240 00:12:16,010 --> 00:12:17,777 I'm like, "Oh, hey, wait a minute. 241 00:12:17,779 --> 00:12:18,945 You got anything to tell us?" 242 00:12:18,947 --> 00:12:22,751 And he just looks at me dead in the face and says, 243 00:12:22,753 --> 00:12:23,919 "I can't help you." 244 00:12:23,921 --> 00:12:25,521 Did you tell your wife what happened? 245 00:12:25,523 --> 00:12:26,556 Yes, I did. 246 00:12:26,558 --> 00:12:27,791 As soon as she came home, I told her. 247 00:12:27,793 --> 00:12:31,128 I said, "Hey, your friend from the church came." 248 00:12:31,130 --> 00:12:32,197 And she says, "What friend?" 249 00:12:40,812 --> 00:12:48,622 I would say that this is not a very good area in the house. 250 00:12:48,624 --> 00:12:50,624 This religious guy, 251 00:12:50,626 --> 00:12:55,660 he doesn't like it up here, either. 252 00:12:55,662 --> 00:12:59,534 It makes him agitated. 253 00:12:59,536 --> 00:13:06,008 He thinks that there is something evil here. 254 00:13:07,846 --> 00:13:09,744 This is not good. 255 00:13:09,746 --> 00:13:12,979 From his religious perspective, 256 00:13:12,981 --> 00:13:17,481 it's, you know, some kind of demon or something. 257 00:13:20,285 --> 00:13:22,188 Something kills people here. 258 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,498 STEVE: So, when I was talking to Mom, 259 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:34,333 she mentioned that everybody's having experiences in the house, 260 00:13:34,335 --> 00:13:35,868 and I was wondering about you. 261 00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:37,303 I used to sleep in this bed right here 262 00:13:37,305 --> 00:13:38,437 and had a laptop there. 263 00:13:38,439 --> 00:13:39,736 I would watch stuff before I went to sleep. 264 00:13:39,738 --> 00:13:41,939 And I used to see eyes peering at me 265 00:13:41,941 --> 00:13:44,705 through this door leading into the bathroom. 266 00:13:44,707 --> 00:13:45,972 Describe what it looked like. 267 00:13:45,974 --> 00:13:47,373 It kind of just looked like 268 00:13:47,375 --> 00:13:49,376 just two sets of balls that were red, 269 00:13:49,378 --> 00:13:51,277 that were right next to each other. 270 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:53,879 Are you sure it's not something you're looking at on your laptop 271 00:13:53,881 --> 00:13:55,214 that's screwing your eyes up? 272 00:13:55,216 --> 00:13:57,452 No, 'cause, I mean, I'm trying to comprehend 273 00:13:57,454 --> 00:13:59,690 what's going on and find a way to just prove 274 00:13:59,692 --> 00:14:01,658 that it's not, you know, paranormal. 275 00:14:01,660 --> 00:14:04,195 Right, and you're not coming up with any answers? 276 00:14:04,197 --> 00:14:05,497 I haven't come up with anything other than... 277 00:14:05,499 --> 00:14:06,597 Yeah, nothing. 278 00:14:06,599 --> 00:14:08,898 Okay, so, is there anything else going on? 279 00:14:08,900 --> 00:14:11,299 Well, I have a few items go missing for months at a time 280 00:14:11,301 --> 00:14:12,866 that I've know I placed somewhere. 281 00:14:12,868 --> 00:14:14,099 What kind of stuff? 282 00:14:14,101 --> 00:14:17,735 It's been water bottles, keys, a belt one time. 283 00:14:17,737 --> 00:14:18,971 It's not there when you check, 284 00:14:18,973 --> 00:14:20,339 and then you come back, and it's in the spot. 285 00:14:20,341 --> 00:14:22,408 Like, you know it was there before, 286 00:14:22,410 --> 00:14:23,842 but you couldn't find it. 287 00:14:23,844 --> 00:14:26,675 Are you having trouble going to bed at night or sleeping? 288 00:14:26,677 --> 00:14:28,177 Yeah, sometimes. 289 00:14:28,179 --> 00:14:29,514 I've always had feeling that somebody's watched me 290 00:14:29,516 --> 00:14:32,348 from that corner ever since we moved in. 291 00:14:36,417 --> 00:14:37,417 AMY: [bleep] 292 00:14:37,419 --> 00:14:39,254 God. 293 00:14:43,892 --> 00:14:46,559 It gets even worse in here. 294 00:14:46,561 --> 00:14:50,696 There's something here that I'm missing. 295 00:14:50,698 --> 00:14:54,534 And I'm gonna tell you that it can [bleep] jump people, 296 00:14:54,536 --> 00:14:56,734 get inside of people's bodies. 297 00:14:56,736 --> 00:14:59,606 I don't think it's this religious guy. 298 00:14:59,608 --> 00:15:02,175 It feels feminine. 299 00:15:02,177 --> 00:15:03,775 This person's good. 300 00:15:03,777 --> 00:15:05,542 They're [bleep] good. 301 00:15:05,544 --> 00:15:08,145 Really strong. 302 00:15:10,584 --> 00:15:12,250 She knows how to [bleep] hide. 303 00:15:12,252 --> 00:15:13,251 She knows that I... 304 00:15:13,253 --> 00:15:14,921 They're dangerous when they can... 305 00:15:14,923 --> 00:15:15,823 [bleep] dangerous. 306 00:15:15,825 --> 00:15:19,565 She makes people sick. 307 00:15:19,567 --> 00:15:23,536 This is way deliberate, way intentional. 308 00:15:23,538 --> 00:15:24,837 Definitely. 309 00:15:24,839 --> 00:15:32,581 And she messed people up. 310 00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:51,119 STEVE: Sheila and George didn't know anything 311 00:15:51,121 --> 00:15:52,622 about the history of their property, 312 00:15:52,624 --> 00:15:53,958 so I made few calls. 313 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,362 Turns out one of the original owners 314 00:15:56,364 --> 00:15:57,664 had real bad go of things. 315 00:15:59,233 --> 00:16:01,568 I'm heading over to meet with a local historian 316 00:16:01,570 --> 00:16:02,902 who says this story is filled 317 00:16:02,904 --> 00:16:05,273 with heartbreak, insanity, and death. 318 00:16:14,312 --> 00:16:16,844 STEVE: What can you tell me about the Southland family? 319 00:16:16,846 --> 00:16:21,415 Jon and his wife, Jane, purchased the property in 1869. 320 00:16:21,417 --> 00:16:25,786 They had 75 acres of land, and he was a farmer. 321 00:16:25,788 --> 00:16:28,656 I have an 1881 atlas of Chautauqua County 322 00:16:28,658 --> 00:16:31,392 which shows the property, the 75 acres. 323 00:16:32,761 --> 00:16:35,496 Okay, Now, on the phone, you said things were tough 324 00:16:35,498 --> 00:16:37,099 for this family. What did you mean by that? 325 00:16:37,101 --> 00:16:41,873 In 1880, John and his wife were out one morning 326 00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:43,474 - for a ride in their carriage. - Okay. 327 00:16:43,476 --> 00:16:45,444 And something spooked the horses, 328 00:16:45,446 --> 00:16:47,449 and they veered very hard, 329 00:16:47,451 --> 00:16:50,419 and it caused the carriage to topple over. 330 00:16:50,421 --> 00:16:53,121 Jonathan apparently hit his head. 331 00:16:53,123 --> 00:16:56,122 He managed to hold on to the reins, 332 00:16:56,124 --> 00:16:57,523 but he was dragged behind the horses. 333 00:16:57,525 --> 00:17:02,463 He managed to control them, and he hitched them to a post 334 00:17:02,465 --> 00:17:06,166 and went back to aid his wife and dropped dead. 335 00:17:06,168 --> 00:17:08,000 Wow. 336 00:17:09,035 --> 00:17:12,139 He must have had some hit to the head. 337 00:17:12,141 --> 00:17:13,575 So, I would assume that Jane got the property then 338 00:17:13,577 --> 00:17:14,909 once he passed. 339 00:17:14,911 --> 00:17:17,645 No, at that time period, a woman didn't automatically inherit 340 00:17:17,647 --> 00:17:20,314 her husband's full estate because there were children. 341 00:17:20,316 --> 00:17:23,252 - Okay. - They had two grown sons. 342 00:17:23,254 --> 00:17:25,386 Martin was 31, and Charles was 25. 343 00:17:25,388 --> 00:17:28,020 And they were the ones who inherited the farm. 344 00:17:28,022 --> 00:17:29,288 And so, what happens? 345 00:17:29,290 --> 00:17:32,625 In 1883, Martin was committed 346 00:17:32,627 --> 00:17:35,496 to a mental institution in Buffalo. 347 00:17:35,498 --> 00:17:36,931 What was his issue? 348 00:17:36,933 --> 00:17:39,503 His commitment was for religious excitement. 349 00:17:40,538 --> 00:17:41,536 What does that mean? 350 00:17:41,538 --> 00:17:44,739 In the mid to late 1800s, 351 00:17:44,741 --> 00:17:47,542 people were being exposed to spiritualism 352 00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:52,344 and Mormonism and other new beliefs. 353 00:17:52,346 --> 00:17:55,947 Perhaps his family was concerned about that. 354 00:17:57,016 --> 00:18:00,053 Geez. 355 00:18:00,055 --> 00:18:02,089 He was classified as insane. 356 00:18:06,864 --> 00:18:11,434 AMY: This guy I met earlier, he speaks funny. 357 00:18:12,703 --> 00:18:14,974 He does. He speaks strange. 358 00:18:14,976 --> 00:18:16,377 MATTHEW: How? 359 00:18:16,379 --> 00:18:19,381 Like old-fashioned. 360 00:18:20,416 --> 00:18:24,792 This creepy religious guy is suddenly opening up to me, 361 00:18:24,794 --> 00:18:27,894 and I'm seeing glimpses of what he was like in life. 362 00:18:27,896 --> 00:18:30,231 I thought he was in his 60s, but, actually, 363 00:18:30,233 --> 00:18:31,734 looking at him when he was healthy, 364 00:18:31,736 --> 00:18:34,102 he might have been younger. 365 00:18:34,104 --> 00:18:36,771 In his 50s, maybe, I'm thinking. 366 00:18:36,773 --> 00:18:41,242 He's very skittish. 367 00:18:42,311 --> 00:18:44,479 He's like, "Where are you going? 368 00:18:44,481 --> 00:18:45,715 "Where are you going? What's up? What's up? 369 00:18:45,717 --> 00:18:46,950 "Where are you going? Where are you going? 370 00:18:46,952 --> 00:18:49,017 Okay, okay, okay, okay." 371 00:18:50,585 --> 00:18:55,721 He was detained at some point in his life. 372 00:18:58,423 --> 00:19:01,092 So, yeah, he had problems, you know, with his family. 373 00:19:01,094 --> 00:19:02,327 There were problems there. 374 00:19:02,329 --> 00:19:03,794 Hmm. 375 00:19:04,828 --> 00:19:09,964 He's okay with us knowing some things but not everything. 376 00:19:11,935 --> 00:19:13,369 STEVE: So, now, what happens to him? 377 00:19:13,371 --> 00:19:17,270 Well, he was discharged from that commitment in 1883. 378 00:19:17,272 --> 00:19:19,839 I don't know how long he was there in 1883, 379 00:19:19,841 --> 00:19:22,008 but I found him in later census records 380 00:19:22,010 --> 00:19:23,978 working in Buffalo as a shoemaker. 381 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:25,915 So, was he okay after that? 382 00:19:25,917 --> 00:19:28,416 Well, he apparently wasn't, 383 00:19:28,418 --> 00:19:30,882 because he ended up taking his own life. 384 00:19:31,983 --> 00:19:34,653 He slit his own throat with a razor. 385 00:19:34,655 --> 00:19:36,856 Geez. 386 00:19:38,558 --> 00:19:41,394 Martin kills himself in 1909. 387 00:19:41,396 --> 00:19:44,534 - He was 60 years old at the time. - Right. 388 00:19:44,536 --> 00:19:46,536 This is interesting... "An effort is being made to find relatives." 389 00:19:46,538 --> 00:19:47,703 Correct. 390 00:19:47,705 --> 00:19:51,037 His brother's gone. His parents are gone. 391 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:52,371 He was pretty much alone. 392 00:19:58,311 --> 00:20:03,609 AMY: He, uh, got really hurt, really bad. 393 00:20:05,578 --> 00:20:07,279 He goes, "Then, it all just stopped." 394 00:20:09,783 --> 00:20:13,049 Mmm... 395 00:20:13,051 --> 00:20:14,451 He's like, "I was trying to... 396 00:20:14,453 --> 00:20:16,587 I got to get to the church. I got to get to the church." 397 00:20:17,622 --> 00:20:22,926 Didn't work out that way. Mm, they put him in the ground. 398 00:20:22,928 --> 00:20:25,362 They just threw him in the ground. 399 00:20:31,736 --> 00:20:35,474 But he's not angry anymore, not angry anymore. 400 00:20:35,476 --> 00:20:41,011 Now it's the sad. He's sad. 401 00:20:52,426 --> 00:20:55,263 STEVE: Now that I know a former owner of Sheila and George's property 402 00:20:55,265 --> 00:20:57,367 was committed to mental institution 403 00:20:57,369 --> 00:20:59,438 and later committed suicide, 404 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,940 I need to see if there's anything else 405 00:21:00,942 --> 00:21:03,142 that could help my case. 406 00:21:04,143 --> 00:21:07,713 Searching through old records, I come across the Crapo family 407 00:21:07,715 --> 00:21:14,254 and find not one but four deaths all inside my clients' house. 408 00:21:14,256 --> 00:21:16,559 I'm heading over to meet with a local genealogist 409 00:21:16,561 --> 00:21:18,259 who says she's got information 410 00:21:18,261 --> 00:21:19,695 that will definitely help my case. 411 00:21:27,008 --> 00:21:30,509 So, in my research, I came across the Crapo family 412 00:21:30,511 --> 00:21:31,776 that lived on my clients' property. 413 00:21:31,778 --> 00:21:33,879 What do you know about the family itself? 414 00:21:33,881 --> 00:21:36,483 Well, Archie Crapo and his wife and his four children 415 00:21:36,485 --> 00:21:42,456 moved here from Kansas in 1931 during the Great Depression. 416 00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:44,927 I saw that there was four deaths inside the house. 417 00:21:44,929 --> 00:21:46,429 What do you know about those? 418 00:21:46,431 --> 00:21:50,599 By this time, Archie had moved his ailing parents in with them. 419 00:21:50,601 --> 00:21:52,433 The first death was Archie's mother 420 00:21:52,435 --> 00:21:54,635 in January of 1948, 421 00:21:54,637 --> 00:21:56,970 and she died of heart failure. 422 00:21:56,972 --> 00:21:59,107 And this is her death certificate. 423 00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:00,843 She was 88 years old. 424 00:22:00,845 --> 00:22:02,111 Mm-hmm. 425 00:22:02,113 --> 00:22:05,181 Well, less than a month later, her husband dies. 426 00:22:05,183 --> 00:22:09,054 His official cause of death was heart failure, as well. 427 00:22:09,056 --> 00:22:10,689 Was he around the same age? 428 00:22:10,691 --> 00:22:11,690 I think he was about 96. 429 00:22:11,692 --> 00:22:13,126 Wow. 430 00:22:13,128 --> 00:22:14,829 So, what was the third death? 431 00:22:14,831 --> 00:22:18,165 The third death happens in 1962... 432 00:22:18,167 --> 00:22:20,033 Archie's wife, Carola. 433 00:22:20,035 --> 00:22:22,368 After a long struggle with lung cancer, 434 00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:24,271 she passes away in the house. 435 00:22:26,941 --> 00:22:28,242 She was 67. 436 00:22:30,313 --> 00:22:31,849 But what was the fourth one? 437 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:35,020 Well, Archie sold the house to his son, Joseph, 438 00:22:35,022 --> 00:22:36,555 and his wife, Joyce, and their two kids. 439 00:22:36,557 --> 00:22:38,057 Okay. 440 00:22:38,059 --> 00:22:41,993 And soon after they moved her mother in, Margaret Penticoff. 441 00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:46,232 She passes away on February 1, 1975 442 00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:49,300 of congestive heart failure in the house. 443 00:22:49,302 --> 00:22:50,301 This is a photo of her? 444 00:22:50,303 --> 00:22:52,772 This is a photo of her. 445 00:22:52,774 --> 00:22:54,240 I mean, I know it's natural causes, 446 00:22:54,242 --> 00:22:57,074 but, I mean, this house is like bad luck. 447 00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:02,481 What the hell? There's some lady. 448 00:23:02,483 --> 00:23:04,249 And they're flipping the [bleep] out. 449 00:23:07,323 --> 00:23:11,924 Feisty, feisty, and not happy that we're here, 450 00:23:11,926 --> 00:23:18,563 and she's like spitting at us and calling us names. 451 00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:21,768 We'd probably maybe hear her yelling 452 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:23,804 or maybe see her quickly. 453 00:23:25,609 --> 00:23:27,410 MATTHEW: Any idea what time period she might be from? 454 00:23:27,412 --> 00:23:29,246 '70s or '80s. 455 00:23:30,983 --> 00:23:33,250 [Hinges squeak] 456 00:23:33,252 --> 00:23:37,086 The little old lady from outside, 457 00:23:37,088 --> 00:23:39,619 she likes it in here. 458 00:23:41,521 --> 00:23:43,689 She's vomiting. 459 00:23:44,990 --> 00:23:46,823 I think she died here. 460 00:23:47,892 --> 00:23:49,225 It was fast. 461 00:23:49,227 --> 00:23:51,226 I don't know if it's her heart. 462 00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:56,930 This is making me too sick. 463 00:24:01,903 --> 00:24:04,973 It's not healthy for the living 464 00:24:04,975 --> 00:24:09,911 to be in that area 465 00:24:09,913 --> 00:24:14,047 because they are... [Grunts] 466 00:24:14,049 --> 00:24:16,984 Absorbing that. 467 00:24:16,986 --> 00:24:19,854 And that's very bad for them. 468 00:24:24,395 --> 00:24:25,862 Look, I don't know if this is gonna help my case, 469 00:24:25,864 --> 00:24:28,364 but during my research, one thing really caught my eye... 470 00:24:28,366 --> 00:24:30,366 the murder of a pregnant girl 471 00:24:30,368 --> 00:24:32,336 less than a mile from my client's house. 472 00:24:32,338 --> 00:24:35,170 I'm heading over to meet with a local police sergeant 473 00:24:35,172 --> 00:24:37,273 who said this is one of the most brutal murders 474 00:24:37,275 --> 00:24:38,543 in the county's history. 475 00:24:43,781 --> 00:24:45,982 The reason I called you is I came across that article 476 00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:49,520 about a 7-month-pregnant female that was murdered 477 00:24:49,522 --> 00:24:52,324 within less than a mile from my clients' property, 478 00:24:52,326 --> 00:24:54,325 and you were able to look into it for me. 479 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,225 Yeah, that's why I brought you here. 480 00:24:56,227 --> 00:24:58,160 Just a couple hundred yards up the riverbank is 481 00:24:58,162 --> 00:24:59,494 where the woman's body was found. 482 00:24:59,496 --> 00:25:01,663 Okay, so when did this happen? 483 00:25:01,665 --> 00:25:03,366 It was September 23, 1899. 484 00:25:03,368 --> 00:25:05,469 It was about 8:00 at night. 485 00:25:05,471 --> 00:25:07,671 There was three boys that were walking along the riverbank, 486 00:25:07,673 --> 00:25:09,138 and they heard a woman screaming. 487 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:11,975 The three of them went down to the edge of the riverbank, 488 00:25:11,977 --> 00:25:13,843 and they found the woman facedown, 489 00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:15,045 partially in the water. 490 00:25:15,047 --> 00:25:19,151 They turned her over and immediately noticed 491 00:25:19,153 --> 00:25:21,753 that she was bleeding severely from her neck. 492 00:25:21,755 --> 00:25:24,391 Before the doctor could come, she had died. 493 00:25:25,526 --> 00:25:27,793 Okay, now, did they ever wind up identifying her? 494 00:25:27,795 --> 00:25:28,762 Yes. 495 00:25:28,764 --> 00:25:30,298 They identified her at the morgue 496 00:25:30,300 --> 00:25:33,204 as 26-year-old Emily Adolphson. 497 00:25:33,206 --> 00:25:34,806 She was a Swedish immigrant. 498 00:25:34,808 --> 00:25:37,710 Her throat had been slit from her chin to her spinal column, 499 00:25:37,712 --> 00:25:38,445 and she bled to death. 500 00:25:38,447 --> 00:25:39,713 Okay. 501 00:25:39,715 --> 00:25:42,680 And they also determined that she was 7 months pregnant. 502 00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:48,021 So, did they have any idea who might have done this? 503 00:25:48,023 --> 00:25:50,325 She had a lover named Frank Vennerholm. 504 00:25:50,327 --> 00:25:51,930 Now, did they go after this guy? 505 00:25:51,932 --> 00:25:53,663 They go in the early morning hours, 506 00:25:53,665 --> 00:25:56,034 and they go to his residence to interview him. 507 00:25:56,036 --> 00:25:59,037 They scour the apartment 508 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:01,103 just trying to look for some evidence. 509 00:26:01,105 --> 00:26:02,838 They go into the closet, 510 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,775 and they find a pair of pants and a vest 511 00:26:05,777 --> 00:26:07,409 that are covered in mud and blood. 512 00:26:07,411 --> 00:26:10,080 And then, he gets arrested. 513 00:26:10,082 --> 00:26:12,283 So, does it go to trial? Does he get indicted? 514 00:26:12,285 --> 00:26:14,720 - Yes. - And so, how'd the trial go? 515 00:26:14,722 --> 00:26:17,423 They find Vennerholm guilty for the murder of Emily. 516 00:26:17,425 --> 00:26:19,025 Okay. 517 00:26:19,027 --> 00:26:25,134 On July 16, 1901, Vennerholm was executed in Auburn, New York. 518 00:26:25,136 --> 00:26:27,037 Does this guy ever confess to anything? 519 00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:28,438 He never confesses. 520 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,939 - Never? - Never. 521 00:26:32,076 --> 00:26:33,043 AMY: There's a woman. 522 00:26:33,045 --> 00:26:34,043 She's crying. 523 00:26:34,045 --> 00:26:36,245 There's a river, or, like, a stream. 524 00:26:36,247 --> 00:26:39,246 Something about that and something about her child. 525 00:26:39,248 --> 00:26:41,980 Usually, she's down like this, 526 00:26:41,982 --> 00:26:43,617 and she's like rocking, you know, 527 00:26:43,619 --> 00:26:45,452 and she's like, "Aah," crying. 528 00:26:45,454 --> 00:26:46,787 But then, she stands up, 529 00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:50,256 and she becomes this big different, 530 00:26:50,258 --> 00:26:55,196 totally different kind of thing, uh, person. 531 00:26:55,198 --> 00:26:58,764 I think that's, like, really, like, her pain and everything, 532 00:26:58,766 --> 00:26:59,767 like, comes up like that. 533 00:26:59,769 --> 00:27:01,771 And then, she's screaming. 534 00:27:05,073 --> 00:27:09,408 If someone sees this happening, it's not good for them. 535 00:27:18,384 --> 00:27:21,051 I saw several dead people during my walk, 536 00:27:21,053 --> 00:27:23,887 but the religious man smothering a female in the house 537 00:27:23,889 --> 00:27:25,955 has me the most concerned. 538 00:27:25,957 --> 00:27:29,892 AMY: There was a female on the bed. 539 00:27:29,894 --> 00:27:35,799 And there was a male there. 540 00:27:35,801 --> 00:27:41,143 He would kind of make himself into a black, thick mass. 541 00:27:46,049 --> 00:27:47,449 Amy, is this what you saw? 542 00:27:47,451 --> 00:27:49,718 Yes. 543 00:28:09,493 --> 00:28:12,628 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 544 00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:15,064 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 545 00:28:15,066 --> 00:28:17,866 and our clients for the first time. 546 00:28:17,868 --> 00:28:19,432 Amy, I'd like you to meet George and Sheila. 547 00:28:19,434 --> 00:28:21,400 This is their home. 548 00:28:21,402 --> 00:28:22,435 They've owned it about two years. 549 00:28:22,437 --> 00:28:24,704 Now, the activity's really bad here. 550 00:28:24,706 --> 00:28:26,340 They actually live here 551 00:28:26,342 --> 00:28:29,778 with Sheila's son, Nathan, who's 15. 552 00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:31,679 This is Evan, who's 18, 553 00:28:31,681 --> 00:28:33,014 who moved out about 10 days ago? 554 00:28:33,016 --> 00:28:34,149 Mm-hmm. 555 00:28:34,151 --> 00:28:35,383 And this is Sara, who's 14, 556 00:28:35,385 --> 00:28:36,884 and she's the main reason we're here. 557 00:28:36,886 --> 00:28:38,685 And she's a sweet kid, 558 00:28:38,687 --> 00:28:41,151 and she's getting physically attacked. 559 00:28:41,153 --> 00:28:42,921 They're desperate for help, and that's why they called us. 560 00:28:42,923 --> 00:28:45,326 So, now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, 561 00:28:45,328 --> 00:28:46,995 I'm gonna ask her to tell us about her walk. 562 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,601 AMY: When I first arrived, 563 00:28:53,603 --> 00:28:55,202 I noticed this little old lady there, 564 00:28:55,204 --> 00:28:59,071 and she was yelling at me from the garage. 565 00:28:59,073 --> 00:29:02,176 Later on, in the house, 566 00:29:02,178 --> 00:29:03,742 I encountered her in the kitchen, 567 00:29:03,744 --> 00:29:08,143 and I saw her and felt her become extremely ill, 568 00:29:08,145 --> 00:29:10,413 like violently ill. 569 00:29:10,415 --> 00:29:14,252 She was vomiting, extreme stomach pain. 570 00:29:14,254 --> 00:29:16,921 It's like... I'm like, "Maybe this is a heart attack." 571 00:29:16,923 --> 00:29:20,787 She projects it out so intensely 572 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:22,789 that the living would absorb this, 573 00:29:22,791 --> 00:29:25,491 and it would physically affect you. 574 00:29:25,493 --> 00:29:32,968 So, I don't think it's good for you to be in that area. 575 00:29:32,970 --> 00:29:36,940 I do think that she died possibly in the kitchen, 576 00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:41,078 and fairly recently... '70s, '80s. 577 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,748 You know, the one thing that really struck me odd 578 00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:45,449 during the research for your property... 579 00:29:45,451 --> 00:29:47,785 actually, the home itself... 580 00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:49,856 was that four people actually died right inside the house. 581 00:29:49,858 --> 00:29:51,491 Oh, my. 582 00:29:51,493 --> 00:29:54,394 - Three of them were women. - Oh. 583 00:29:54,396 --> 00:29:55,796 And all from the same family. 584 00:29:55,798 --> 00:30:00,701 Now, who I think you may be talking about is this woman. 585 00:30:00,703 --> 00:30:02,135 This is Margaret Penticoff. 586 00:30:02,137 --> 00:30:04,474 She died of congestive heart failure 587 00:30:04,476 --> 00:30:08,311 in 1975 in the home. 588 00:30:08,313 --> 00:30:10,711 Okay. How old was she when she died? 589 00:30:10,713 --> 00:30:12,578 She was pretty young... 62. 590 00:30:12,580 --> 00:30:15,515 Yeah, that looks like her. 591 00:30:15,517 --> 00:30:17,251 The lips and the nose. 592 00:30:19,819 --> 00:30:22,522 - It's a little disconcerting. - Yeah. 593 00:30:22,524 --> 00:30:25,556 Yeah, that definitely might have put a difference 594 00:30:25,558 --> 00:30:29,192 onto whether or not I would have bought the house, honestly, 595 00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:31,929 had I known. 596 00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:39,439 The other thing was when I got to the porch area, 597 00:30:39,441 --> 00:30:43,077 I felt a lot of anger, 598 00:30:43,079 --> 00:30:47,484 and this anger is actually from a living person. 599 00:30:47,486 --> 00:30:52,124 I felt that someone who's living in the house 600 00:30:52,126 --> 00:30:53,424 is actually very sick. 601 00:30:53,426 --> 00:30:58,864 I felt extreme physical pain, especially in the back. 602 00:31:01,168 --> 00:31:03,335 Yeah, it was really bad. 603 00:31:03,337 --> 00:31:05,001 That would be me. 604 00:31:06,369 --> 00:31:08,705 [Voice breaking] And pretty much every single thing 605 00:31:08,707 --> 00:31:10,107 that I go through every day. 606 00:31:10,109 --> 00:31:12,374 [Sniffles] 607 00:31:12,376 --> 00:31:15,743 And I'm angry because I hurt so bad. 608 00:31:15,745 --> 00:31:18,615 It sucks. 609 00:31:24,285 --> 00:31:28,723 And I get anxiety, and I can't breathe. 610 00:31:28,725 --> 00:31:32,130 So, every single thing you said just nailed it up. 611 00:31:33,735 --> 00:31:36,838 And it's just kind of nice to know that somebody knows 612 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,473 that I'm making it up. 613 00:31:38,475 --> 00:31:40,140 Mm-hmm. 614 00:31:40,142 --> 00:31:41,741 I can see it upsets you seeing your wife like that. 615 00:31:41,743 --> 00:31:43,109 It does. 616 00:31:43,111 --> 00:31:46,545 You know, and I really can't do anything to help her. 617 00:31:46,547 --> 00:31:49,279 Well, I didn't even realize I was angry 618 00:31:49,281 --> 00:31:52,216 until you said it, and I want my life back. 619 00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:55,153 I couldn't believe 620 00:31:55,155 --> 00:31:57,523 that people could even get out of bed in the morning 621 00:31:57,525 --> 00:32:00,862 or do anything because it's so severe. 622 00:32:00,864 --> 00:32:03,133 I was just overwhelmed. 623 00:32:03,135 --> 00:32:07,941 I felt that there were possibly other people in the house 624 00:32:07,943 --> 00:32:10,878 that might be having health issues, too. 625 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,614 Well, Sara... You've been taking her 626 00:32:12,616 --> 00:32:14,536 to the doctors for how long for her stomach? 627 00:32:14,561 --> 00:32:15,517 A year and a half. 628 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,755 And they can't find anything wrong. 629 00:32:24,761 --> 00:32:26,462 GEORGE: What else did you get? 630 00:32:26,464 --> 00:32:32,497 So, there's one male that's causing a lot of problems here. 631 00:32:32,499 --> 00:32:35,465 Right off the bat, it was... 632 00:32:35,467 --> 00:32:37,367 You know, he was telling me, you know, 633 00:32:37,369 --> 00:32:42,371 that he's extremely religious, that you... 634 00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:44,472 the family that's there now... 635 00:32:44,474 --> 00:32:48,608 needs to accept Jesus Christ into your hearts as your savior. 636 00:32:48,610 --> 00:32:51,678 He despises everybody in the house, 637 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,612 and he wants you all out 638 00:32:53,614 --> 00:32:55,916 because he believes you are not clean or pure, 639 00:32:55,918 --> 00:32:59,782 and he is taking on the role of a ghost. 640 00:32:59,784 --> 00:33:03,955 He was showing himself becoming massive and dark, 641 00:33:03,957 --> 00:33:05,557 and he was showing me 642 00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:09,428 how he would stomp down the hallway 643 00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:11,300 between the rooms and be in the hall like... 644 00:33:11,302 --> 00:33:12,734 [Stomps] 645 00:33:12,736 --> 00:33:15,437 [Sighs] The footstep stuff is something they all hear. 646 00:33:15,439 --> 00:33:18,076 Oh, yeah. 647 00:33:18,078 --> 00:33:20,446 Yep, on a daily basis. 648 00:33:21,716 --> 00:33:24,053 Now, you see a shadow figure 649 00:33:24,055 --> 00:33:26,090 - coming up the porch all the time. - Yeah. 650 00:33:26,092 --> 00:33:28,692 Like somebody's coming up the stairs 651 00:33:28,694 --> 00:33:32,297 and then passing the windows and going to the door, 652 00:33:32,299 --> 00:33:33,797 but when I go to answer the door, 653 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:35,366 - there's nobody there. - Mm-hmm. 654 00:33:35,368 --> 00:33:37,502 You got a real interesting story. 655 00:33:37,504 --> 00:33:39,370 GEORGE: It was about 2:30 in the morning. 656 00:33:39,372 --> 00:33:42,504 The shadow was on the porch, and I said, 657 00:33:42,506 --> 00:33:44,439 "I'm gonna do something," 658 00:33:44,441 --> 00:33:45,540 so I grabbed the flashlight, 659 00:33:45,542 --> 00:33:47,241 I opened the door, and this thing took off. 660 00:33:47,243 --> 00:33:48,943 - And I gave chase. - Mm-hmm. 661 00:33:48,945 --> 00:33:52,380 And we get to the garage, and I stopped immediately 662 00:33:52,382 --> 00:33:58,288 because whatever it was just cleared a path for itself. 663 00:33:58,290 --> 00:34:01,258 The bikes were thrown to the left and to the right. 664 00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:03,394 I didn't know what to do. 665 00:34:03,396 --> 00:34:04,595 STEVE: Now, does the stuff they're describing 666 00:34:04,597 --> 00:34:06,297 sound like it's him? 667 00:34:06,299 --> 00:34:08,532 I think so because those are all things 668 00:34:08,534 --> 00:34:12,673 that I think he believes would bother you. 669 00:34:12,675 --> 00:34:15,976 But the other thing that he would do is 670 00:34:15,978 --> 00:34:18,982 become physical towards people. 671 00:34:18,984 --> 00:34:21,486 He touched my head. 672 00:34:21,488 --> 00:34:28,464 He also showed me him kind of trying to smother people. 673 00:34:28,466 --> 00:34:32,135 He likes to get close to certain people while they're in bed. 674 00:34:32,137 --> 00:34:34,305 He likes to take his fingers 675 00:34:34,307 --> 00:34:36,006 and try to push them down people's throats 676 00:34:36,008 --> 00:34:39,173 to make you choke. 677 00:34:39,175 --> 00:34:43,945 This man kind of has his sights set 678 00:34:43,947 --> 00:34:47,479 on one female in particular in the household, 679 00:34:47,481 --> 00:34:49,845 and the one thing that I did see was that she had longer hair. 680 00:34:51,649 --> 00:34:54,720 What he would do is, like, go to the end of the bed 681 00:34:54,722 --> 00:34:56,387 and, like, become this dark, 682 00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:57,752 you know, this darkness 683 00:34:57,754 --> 00:34:59,754 and would then show me him, 684 00:34:59,756 --> 00:35:03,324 like, laying on top of this person. 685 00:35:03,326 --> 00:35:06,899 Yeah, that is quite disturbing. 686 00:35:06,901 --> 00:35:10,530 The main reason we're here is for your daughter, Sara. 687 00:35:10,555 --> 00:35:11,437 Right. 688 00:35:11,439 --> 00:35:14,108 - And she just kind of described her. - Yeah. 689 00:35:14,110 --> 00:35:15,578 But she's also been getting scratched. 690 00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:16,912 Okay. 691 00:35:16,914 --> 00:35:19,516 And at one point, it had looked 692 00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:22,488 like somebody had taken her by the wrist 693 00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:25,258 and held her wrist tight, and she was bruised. 694 00:35:26,895 --> 00:35:30,867 I explained the situation to an artist, and she drew it. 695 00:35:30,869 --> 00:35:32,601 Of what he's doing? 696 00:35:32,603 --> 00:35:33,769 Yes. 697 00:35:37,742 --> 00:35:39,177 Oh, geez. 698 00:35:44,151 --> 00:35:45,083 Wow. 699 00:35:50,086 --> 00:35:53,689 Wow. 700 00:35:53,691 --> 00:35:56,793 Yeah, that's very disturbing. 701 00:35:59,666 --> 00:36:02,135 You can't even protect her from him. 702 00:36:02,137 --> 00:36:04,534 That's the infuriating part. 703 00:36:04,536 --> 00:36:07,135 I can't... That's my job. 704 00:36:07,137 --> 00:36:08,671 I can't do it. 705 00:36:08,673 --> 00:36:13,976 But it at least explains some things of why maybe 706 00:36:13,978 --> 00:36:15,812 nobody could find out what's going on with her. 707 00:36:17,081 --> 00:36:18,280 They're not gonna find it. 708 00:36:18,282 --> 00:36:20,115 It's not anything that any doctors can find. 709 00:36:20,117 --> 00:36:23,155 Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. 710 00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:30,062 Do you have any idea who this guy might have been in life? 711 00:36:30,064 --> 00:36:31,966 Well, the first thing is, obviously, 712 00:36:32,167 --> 00:36:36,106 he was extremely religious. 713 00:36:36,108 --> 00:36:37,775 I know that at some point he was living with his mother, 714 00:36:37,777 --> 00:36:43,412 also that he was, at some point, detained. 715 00:36:43,414 --> 00:36:45,281 When I first met him, 716 00:36:45,283 --> 00:36:49,819 he was kind of giving me the details about his death. 717 00:36:49,821 --> 00:36:53,325 And there was extreme head and chest pain, 718 00:36:53,327 --> 00:36:56,995 and then everything just stopped for him. 719 00:36:56,997 --> 00:37:01,765 He was, I mean, severely injured and hurt. 720 00:37:01,767 --> 00:37:03,833 Well, a lot of who you're describing 721 00:37:03,835 --> 00:37:05,134 reminds me of a guy 722 00:37:05,136 --> 00:37:07,169 that actually lived on your property at one time. 723 00:37:07,171 --> 00:37:09,204 Now, a guy named Martin Southland 724 00:37:09,206 --> 00:37:12,442 moved onto your property with this parents in 1869. 725 00:37:12,444 --> 00:37:14,142 You said the guy was detained. 726 00:37:14,144 --> 00:37:15,911 Well, he was institutionalized three times. 727 00:37:15,913 --> 00:37:16,979 Oh. 728 00:37:16,981 --> 00:37:21,282 1871, 1878, and then again in 1883. 729 00:37:21,284 --> 00:37:23,318 And you said the guy was a religious freak, right? 730 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,086 - Uh, yes. - Okay. 731 00:37:26,088 --> 00:37:28,556 So, the article I came across for him... 732 00:37:28,558 --> 00:37:30,725 According to this, he's "mentally disturbed 733 00:37:30,727 --> 00:37:32,261 by religious excitement." 734 00:37:33,397 --> 00:37:36,001 And the other thing you said... He was a painful death? 735 00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:37,636 Mm-hmm. 736 00:37:37,638 --> 00:37:39,839 He didn't do it on the property, but he was living in Buffalo. 737 00:37:39,841 --> 00:37:41,875 At the age of 60, he committed suicide, 738 00:37:41,877 --> 00:37:42,878 and he cut his throat. 739 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,014 Oh. 740 00:37:44,016 --> 00:37:46,051 Makes sense, it does. 741 00:37:52,825 --> 00:37:54,125 Okay, you've got a lot going on. 742 00:37:54,127 --> 00:37:55,927 I mean, did you encounter anything else? 743 00:37:55,929 --> 00:37:57,362 Yes, I did. 744 00:37:57,364 --> 00:37:59,231 Geez. 745 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:04,708 The upstairs is a very, very bad area. 746 00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:06,276 Okay. 747 00:38:06,278 --> 00:38:08,944 I figured out that there was someone 748 00:38:08,946 --> 00:38:11,247 or something there that could jump you. 749 00:38:11,249 --> 00:38:15,416 So, this means that they can enter your body and take over. 750 00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:20,752 So, initially, I was assuming that it was the religious male, 751 00:38:20,754 --> 00:38:25,022 but later, I figured out that it's actually a female. 752 00:38:25,024 --> 00:38:28,022 She's really good. 753 00:38:28,024 --> 00:38:29,690 Like, she can hide. 754 00:38:29,692 --> 00:38:33,794 That scares me. 755 00:38:33,796 --> 00:38:37,165 I think that she is very dangerous, 756 00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:41,369 and I think she has an extreme effect on the living. 757 00:38:41,371 --> 00:38:44,039 One of things that she's doing to draw out her energy needs 758 00:38:44,041 --> 00:38:46,675 is to actually tap into the electrical impulses 759 00:38:46,677 --> 00:38:51,213 of the human brain and feed off of that, as well. 760 00:38:51,215 --> 00:38:56,487 And this could possibly cause brain damage in the long term. 761 00:38:56,489 --> 00:39:00,793 We feel lost. I don't know what to do. 762 00:39:00,795 --> 00:39:02,794 There's no words that can even describe 763 00:39:02,796 --> 00:39:03,829 how I feel about it. 764 00:39:03,831 --> 00:39:06,231 Totally helpless. 765 00:39:23,566 --> 00:39:24,700 Well, all I can say is 766 00:39:24,702 --> 00:39:26,203 I'm glad you guys called us when you did 767 00:39:26,205 --> 00:39:29,208 because, obviously, you've got a serious problem in your house. 768 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:31,408 The big question is do you stay and fight, 769 00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,776 or do you pack up your bags 770 00:39:33,778 --> 00:39:36,611 and take Nathan and Sara, especially, 771 00:39:36,613 --> 00:39:38,812 and move the hell out of here? 772 00:39:38,814 --> 00:39:41,712 For the answer to that question, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 773 00:39:43,313 --> 00:39:46,380 I have some good news and some bad news. 774 00:39:46,382 --> 00:39:52,385 Unfortunately, there's nothing that can really be done 775 00:39:52,387 --> 00:39:54,888 in the case of the elderly woman. 776 00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:57,861 If someone was to approach her 777 00:39:57,863 --> 00:40:02,166 and try to tell her that she's deceased, 778 00:40:02,168 --> 00:40:05,835 it would make matters worse. 779 00:40:05,837 --> 00:40:08,337 As far as the religious man, 780 00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:11,877 I think the best thing to do is to reach out 781 00:40:11,879 --> 00:40:16,818 to an Evangelical or Pentecostal church. 782 00:40:16,820 --> 00:40:19,587 And you need to find a holy person, 783 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:23,927 and this person needs to deliver a sermon a perform a blessing. 784 00:40:23,929 --> 00:40:27,063 And then, once that's done, he'll move right on. 785 00:40:29,501 --> 00:40:32,000 So, what do they do about this woman that jumps people? 786 00:40:32,002 --> 00:40:33,233 There needs to be three sensitives. 787 00:40:33,235 --> 00:40:37,402 It needs to be two females and one male. 788 00:40:37,404 --> 00:40:39,168 One of them has to be a physical medium. 789 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:40,969 The other two, I want to be different, 790 00:40:40,971 --> 00:40:45,810 whatever, like a psychic knower or a psychic empath. 791 00:40:45,812 --> 00:40:48,445 And what they need to do is actually have s?ance upstairs. 792 00:40:51,317 --> 00:40:54,085 That's how they're going to basically trap her... 793 00:40:54,087 --> 00:40:56,355 amongst the three of them. 794 00:40:56,357 --> 00:41:00,026 And then, each one is going to do what they do 795 00:41:00,028 --> 00:41:02,396 to move a deceased person on. 796 00:41:02,398 --> 00:41:06,234 And then, once that's completed, she'll be gone. 797 00:41:06,236 --> 00:41:09,671 In the meantime, 798 00:41:09,673 --> 00:41:15,341 because your daughter is so sensitive, 799 00:41:15,343 --> 00:41:18,645 I do think that she should not be in the house 800 00:41:18,647 --> 00:41:19,746 until this is completed. 801 00:41:22,046 --> 00:41:23,545 And things could get a lot more intense. 802 00:41:23,547 --> 00:41:24,981 [Sighs] 803 00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:27,550 Now, the question is will there be a change in Sara 804 00:41:27,552 --> 00:41:28,518 when all this is done? 805 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,754 I mean, she should be fine. 806 00:41:32,323 --> 00:41:33,623 I'm glad to hear that. 807 00:41:33,625 --> 00:41:35,424 And, you know, I don't even have to ask you 808 00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:36,891 if you're gonna take Amy's advice. 809 00:41:36,893 --> 00:41:38,291 - Oh, yeah. - GEORGE: Oh, yes. 810 00:41:38,293 --> 00:41:39,890 Without question. 811 00:41:39,892 --> 00:41:42,234 No, I just really want to get started with these tasks 812 00:41:42,334 --> 00:41:43,999 that we have that Amy has given us 813 00:41:44,001 --> 00:41:45,668 so that we can help Sara, 814 00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:46,870 help the family, and get our house back. 815 00:41:46,872 --> 00:41:49,241 It's like taking that big sigh 816 00:41:49,341 --> 00:41:51,207 that you've wanted to take forever. 817 00:41:52,443 --> 00:41:55,509 AMY: I really hope Sheila and George follow my advice 818 00:41:55,511 --> 00:41:56,843 and deal with the dangerous entities 819 00:41:56,845 --> 00:41:58,544 terrorizing their family. 820 00:41:58,546 --> 00:42:01,547 With the help of priest and mediums, 821 00:42:01,549 --> 00:42:03,416 they should be able to free their home of evil 822 00:42:03,418 --> 00:42:05,085 and lead a peaceful life. 823 00:42:05,135 --> 00:42:09,685 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62035

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