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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,450 --> 00:00:12,384 AMY: That's not good. 2 00:00:12,386 --> 00:00:14,853 Something's attacking her. 3 00:00:14,855 --> 00:00:17,056 Everybody's hearing voices. 4 00:00:17,058 --> 00:00:19,491 Some living people have disappeared. 5 00:00:20,193 --> 00:00:22,361 This is the victim that he murdered. 6 00:00:22,363 --> 00:00:23,996 I'm real sick in this room. 7 00:00:23,998 --> 00:00:26,332 It's, like, trying to bite my chest and my throat. 8 00:00:27,467 --> 00:00:29,134 It definitely creeped me out. 9 00:00:29,136 --> 00:00:32,237 The dead can go into the house. 10 00:00:33,423 --> 00:00:37,042 I think that some of them could be dangerous. 11 00:00:37,978 --> 00:00:39,845 "You're mine. You can't escape." 12 00:00:39,847 --> 00:00:42,948 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:44,616 [Crying] What's happening? 14 00:00:44,618 --> 00:00:46,986 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,988 --> 00:00:48,687 It seems like a devil. 16 00:00:48,689 --> 00:00:50,289 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:50,291 --> 00:00:52,224 He's pissed off. 18 00:00:52,226 --> 00:00:53,392 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:53,394 --> 00:00:55,527 I felt real fear. 20 00:00:55,529 --> 00:00:58,530 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:58,532 --> 00:01:00,499 I think she's being murdered. 22 00:01:00,501 --> 00:01:02,101 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:02,103 --> 00:01:03,369 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:03,371 --> 00:01:05,371 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:05,373 --> 00:01:07,473 Serial killer pops in my head. 26 00:01:07,475 --> 00:01:10,676 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:10,678 --> 00:01:11,910 Nobody believes me. 28 00:01:11,912 --> 00:01:13,345 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:13,347 --> 00:01:15,614 - Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do. 30 00:01:15,616 --> 00:01:17,349 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:17,351 --> 00:01:19,385 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:19,387 --> 00:01:20,586 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:20,588 --> 00:01:22,354 You got problems. I got news for you. 34 00:01:22,356 --> 00:01:24,556 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:24,558 --> 00:01:26,625 This is our house... whether they like it or not. 36 00:01:26,627 --> 00:01:28,277 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:28,279 --> 00:01:30,963 This is their house, the house of the dead. 38 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:36,400 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 39 00:01:47,714 --> 00:01:49,148 I'm in Roseburg, Oregon. 40 00:01:49,150 --> 00:01:51,350 It's about an hour south of Eugene. 41 00:01:51,352 --> 00:01:54,119 I received a call from a woman named Lori. 42 00:01:54,121 --> 00:01:57,356 Now, she takes care of elderly people in her home. 43 00:01:57,358 --> 00:02:00,793 She says the activity is putting her patients at risk 44 00:02:00,795 --> 00:02:03,095 and destroying her personal life. 45 00:02:04,814 --> 00:02:06,965 She sounded really bad, and I'm hoping we can help her out. 46 00:02:12,772 --> 00:02:14,773 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 47 00:02:14,775 --> 00:02:17,476 I sweep the house, removing artwork, 48 00:02:17,478 --> 00:02:20,479 family photos, and personal items 49 00:02:20,481 --> 00:02:22,681 to avoid influencing her findings. 50 00:02:22,683 --> 00:02:23,916 When I'm finished, 51 00:02:23,918 --> 00:02:26,051 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 52 00:02:39,966 --> 00:02:42,734 AMY: Oh, boy. That's not good. 53 00:02:42,736 --> 00:02:45,137 You know, there's a doorway there. 54 00:02:47,991 --> 00:02:55,881 It's pretty long, and it does kind of go pretty far that way. 55 00:03:01,154 --> 00:03:05,157 There are things, 56 00:03:05,159 --> 00:03:10,462 and there's also some kind of path. 57 00:03:10,464 --> 00:03:15,934 Now, this is separate from this doorway. 58 00:03:18,605 --> 00:03:22,074 There are dead people on it, walking. 59 00:03:22,076 --> 00:03:26,345 I'm very concerned about the living people 60 00:03:26,347 --> 00:03:29,114 wandering up in there and disappearing. 61 00:03:29,116 --> 00:03:31,383 Like, where are they disappearing to? 62 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:34,686 Other dimensions. 63 00:03:42,111 --> 00:03:43,562 STEVE: Lori, I'm glad I'm here. 64 00:03:43,564 --> 00:03:45,814 You sounded really upset and desperate on the phone. 65 00:03:45,816 --> 00:03:47,199 So, what's exactly going on? 66 00:03:47,201 --> 00:03:49,234 It's really been tough here. 67 00:03:49,236 --> 00:03:51,103 Um, in the last three years, 68 00:03:51,105 --> 00:03:53,372 things have just gotten to the point 69 00:03:53,374 --> 00:03:55,841 to where I'm scared to be here. 70 00:03:55,843 --> 00:03:57,609 Now, who exactly lives in the house? 71 00:03:57,611 --> 00:04:01,063 Me, my boyfriend, Devin, his little girl, Cameron. 72 00:04:01,065 --> 00:04:04,049 I have a picture of her here. This is Cameron. 73 00:04:04,051 --> 00:04:08,554 And I have an adult foster care that we run, 74 00:04:08,556 --> 00:04:11,990 and so there's three ladies that live also in the home. 75 00:04:11,992 --> 00:04:13,325 So, they're here all the time? 76 00:04:13,327 --> 00:04:14,359 All the time. 77 00:04:14,361 --> 00:04:15,460 So, these people are, basically, 78 00:04:15,462 --> 00:04:16,862 part of your family when you think about it? 79 00:04:16,864 --> 00:04:17,880 Yes. They are. 80 00:04:17,882 --> 00:04:20,866 I also have a caregiver who lives here 81 00:04:20,868 --> 00:04:22,501 by the name of Julie. 82 00:04:22,503 --> 00:04:23,819 Are they experiencing anything? 83 00:04:23,821 --> 00:04:27,472 Yes, they're afraid to even go to bed at night. 84 00:04:27,474 --> 00:04:29,174 Everybody's hearing voices, 85 00:04:29,176 --> 00:04:33,345 items moving on their own, apparitions. 86 00:04:33,347 --> 00:04:35,597 Our health is declining here, 87 00:04:35,599 --> 00:04:37,549 and our mood swings are elevated. 88 00:04:39,269 --> 00:04:42,120 Now, how long have you been living here? 89 00:04:42,122 --> 00:04:43,238 I grew up here. 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,842 I moved away when I turned 18, 91 00:04:46,844 --> 00:04:50,846 and I moved back here about seven, eight years now. 92 00:04:50,848 --> 00:04:52,764 You know any history about the house? 93 00:04:52,766 --> 00:04:54,766 Not really, I just know that the house 94 00:04:54,768 --> 00:04:58,637 was originally about a mile north from here. 95 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:00,038 And here's a picture of the house 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,608 when it was first moved here. 97 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:06,011 So, the house has been moved? Yeah. 98 00:05:06,013 --> 00:05:07,679 Do you have any idea why it was moved? 99 00:05:07,681 --> 00:05:08,997 They had to move the house 100 00:05:08,999 --> 00:05:11,116 to make way for the interstate freeway. 101 00:05:11,118 --> 00:05:12,451 Okay. Now, do you know 102 00:05:12,453 --> 00:05:14,670 if this is still on the original property? 103 00:05:14,672 --> 00:05:16,054 Yeah, it is. 104 00:05:16,056 --> 00:05:17,990 Okay, that's interesting. 105 00:05:17,992 --> 00:05:20,826 Have you done anything in the house 106 00:05:20,828 --> 00:05:22,628 to try to fix what's happening here? 107 00:05:22,630 --> 00:05:26,415 I tried to sage it a couple times, doing a blessing. 108 00:05:26,417 --> 00:05:27,466 Okay. 109 00:05:27,468 --> 00:05:29,534 And that didn't really work. 110 00:05:29,536 --> 00:05:31,303 What do you hope we can do for you? 111 00:05:31,305 --> 00:05:33,705 The home, it means a lot to me. 112 00:05:33,707 --> 00:05:36,275 I pray and I hope that you and Amy 113 00:05:36,277 --> 00:05:39,378 can help us with what's going on here 114 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:41,847 so we can continue our business and continue living here. 115 00:05:45,385 --> 00:05:48,153 There's a barrier. 116 00:05:48,155 --> 00:05:54,126 Someone's put up, uh, protections around the property, 117 00:05:54,128 --> 00:05:58,930 but, uh, things are getting in. 118 00:05:58,932 --> 00:06:02,301 Because of the pathway and the doorway in the woods, 119 00:06:02,303 --> 00:06:04,569 the activity here is out of control. 120 00:06:04,571 --> 00:06:06,705 Dead people and strange creatures 121 00:06:06,707 --> 00:06:08,340 are walking in and out of this home. 122 00:06:08,342 --> 00:06:11,877 So, I do think that they've heard scratching on the walls, 123 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:14,980 people walking around. 124 00:06:14,982 --> 00:06:17,349 Yeah, they've seen some weird [bleep] 125 00:06:22,989 --> 00:06:24,923 Okay. What's going on in here? 126 00:06:24,925 --> 00:06:26,625 This is where the business 127 00:06:26,627 --> 00:06:28,593 and my resident and my caregiver live. 128 00:06:28,595 --> 00:06:31,246 Okay. And this was here when you lived here as a kid? 129 00:06:31,248 --> 00:06:33,332 Yes, my bedroom's right over here when I grew up. 130 00:06:33,334 --> 00:06:34,599 Let me ask you a question. 131 00:06:34,601 --> 00:06:37,469 Back then, were you having any experiences? 132 00:06:37,471 --> 00:06:38,804 We had a few experiences. 133 00:06:38,806 --> 00:06:44,009 My grandmother would see faces or people looking in at her 134 00:06:44,011 --> 00:06:46,011 through the windows and her door. 135 00:06:46,013 --> 00:06:47,846 Just faces, though. Not a body. 136 00:06:49,482 --> 00:06:51,316 How was her mind at the time? 137 00:06:51,318 --> 00:06:52,551 She was fine. 138 00:06:52,553 --> 00:06:54,119 All right. What else is going on down here? 139 00:06:54,121 --> 00:06:55,854 Well, down here we hear, 140 00:06:55,856 --> 00:06:58,990 like, footsteps upstairs when nobody's home, 141 00:06:58,992 --> 00:07:00,976 voices, like, people talking, 142 00:07:00,978 --> 00:07:03,962 conversations of people that aren't there. 143 00:07:03,964 --> 00:07:06,198 Between how many people, you think? 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,783 - Two, three. - All right. 145 00:07:07,785 --> 00:07:09,601 I mean, TVs left on upstairs, anything like that? 146 00:07:09,603 --> 00:07:14,523 No, and we have banging sounds throughout the house. 147 00:07:14,525 --> 00:07:18,377 And it sounds like someone's picking up, like, encyclopedias 148 00:07:18,379 --> 00:07:21,313 and just dropping 'em, books just booms. 149 00:07:21,315 --> 00:07:23,014 It's really crazy. 150 00:07:23,016 --> 00:07:24,816 I mean, that's got to scare the hell out of you. 151 00:07:24,818 --> 00:07:26,017 Yeah, it does. 152 00:07:28,087 --> 00:07:32,257 I'm seeing a creature thing, big and dark. 153 00:07:32,259 --> 00:07:38,597 Looks like an animal, scratching on the outside walls. 154 00:07:38,599 --> 00:07:42,300 It's not very intelligent. 155 00:07:42,302 --> 00:07:45,637 Uh... it's more like a moth. 156 00:07:45,639 --> 00:07:47,322 Do you know where it comes from? 157 00:07:47,324 --> 00:07:49,508 From that, uh, hallway. 158 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:52,327 Are the other things that come out of this hallway, 159 00:07:52,329 --> 00:07:53,612 are they like this one? 160 00:07:53,614 --> 00:07:57,249 Uh, they're all different entities. 161 00:07:57,251 --> 00:08:00,819 I think that some of them could be dangerous. 162 00:08:05,658 --> 00:08:07,492 What's going on in here? 163 00:08:07,494 --> 00:08:09,795 It's almost like a struggle every day 164 00:08:09,797 --> 00:08:11,263 just to be yourself here. 165 00:08:11,265 --> 00:08:13,899 I think all of us happen to have mood swings. 166 00:08:13,901 --> 00:08:16,535 Devin and I, we're having a really tough time. 167 00:08:16,537 --> 00:08:19,271 It's just this rage that gets into you. 168 00:08:19,273 --> 00:08:21,923 The easiest and simplest little thing 169 00:08:21,925 --> 00:08:24,726 just flares him off or flares me off. 170 00:08:24,728 --> 00:08:27,479 Now, these mood swings, is it affecting your relationship? 171 00:08:27,481 --> 00:08:30,115 Yes, our relationship's about done. 172 00:08:30,117 --> 00:08:34,686 If we can't figure this out, I think we're splitting up. 173 00:08:34,688 --> 00:08:36,388 - Really? - Yeah. 174 00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:39,191 I mean, couples go through that all the time. 175 00:08:39,193 --> 00:08:40,826 - You sure it's paranormal? - Yeah. 176 00:08:40,828 --> 00:08:43,261 Since the activity has picked up, 177 00:08:43,263 --> 00:08:45,397 we're not the same people. 178 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:46,631 Do you feel any better when you're away? 179 00:08:46,633 --> 00:08:48,800 Yeah, I feel a lot better. 180 00:08:48,802 --> 00:08:51,102 We don't fight, we don't argue, 181 00:08:51,104 --> 00:08:53,638 we don't go into these weird rages. 182 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,423 Now, is anything else going on? 183 00:08:55,425 --> 00:08:57,042 We're all getting very ill. 184 00:08:57,044 --> 00:08:59,344 I'm just fatigued in this home, 185 00:08:59,346 --> 00:09:04,416 and I've been diagnosed with fibromyalgia, lots of pain. 186 00:09:04,418 --> 00:09:06,685 When you leave here, do you feel any better? 187 00:09:06,687 --> 00:09:09,087 Yeah, I have a lot more energy. 188 00:09:09,089 --> 00:09:11,556 I'm begging you guys to help me. 189 00:09:11,558 --> 00:09:12,707 All right. 190 00:09:12,709 --> 00:09:13,959 Hopefully you called us in, in time, you know, 191 00:09:13,961 --> 00:09:15,160 and we can get this fixed. 192 00:09:15,162 --> 00:09:16,795 I hope so. 193 00:09:24,370 --> 00:09:26,972 I'm seeing a living woman in here. 194 00:09:29,675 --> 00:09:31,476 I think they are a sensitive. 195 00:09:31,478 --> 00:09:32,911 I think they know it. 196 00:09:32,913 --> 00:09:36,414 I think it's something that is in their family. 197 00:09:37,232 --> 00:09:40,255 _ 198 00:09:42,371 --> 00:09:47,125 If there's random dead people that run through, 199 00:09:47,127 --> 00:09:51,997 a person could pick up on that and the feelings from that. 200 00:09:51,999 --> 00:09:54,266 Being a sensitive in a highly active area 201 00:09:54,268 --> 00:09:56,535 over time can make you sick. 202 00:09:56,537 --> 00:09:57,836 Sick how? 203 00:09:57,838 --> 00:10:00,839 Anything from flu-like symptoms to cancer. 204 00:10:26,855 --> 00:10:28,423 STEVE: So, Devin, I was talking to Lori 205 00:10:28,425 --> 00:10:29,557 and she says you live here with her. 206 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,592 Yes, correct. 207 00:10:30,594 --> 00:10:33,161 She also explained how both of you 208 00:10:33,163 --> 00:10:35,597 have mood swings that are causing a lot of tension. 209 00:10:35,599 --> 00:10:36,731 We can just be getting along just fine, 210 00:10:36,733 --> 00:10:37,932 and all of a sudden, 211 00:10:37,934 --> 00:10:39,667 just be angry with each other for no reason. 212 00:10:39,669 --> 00:10:41,402 But what makes you think it's paranormal, though? 213 00:10:41,404 --> 00:10:42,320 I mean, couples fight. 214 00:10:42,322 --> 00:10:44,272 Because of the way it escalates, 215 00:10:44,274 --> 00:10:45,607 and the feelings that I get. 216 00:10:45,609 --> 00:10:48,126 You know, it has a lot to do with the house. 217 00:10:48,128 --> 00:10:50,745 I've sat down and had conversations with Lori 218 00:10:50,747 --> 00:10:52,747 about maybe it's the entity here. 219 00:10:52,749 --> 00:10:55,950 I can feel the vibes coming off of it. 220 00:10:55,952 --> 00:10:58,886 It's definitely gonna get enjoyment out of ... 221 00:10:58,888 --> 00:11:00,688 of wrecking a relationship. 222 00:11:00,690 --> 00:11:03,257 Have you had any experiences here? 223 00:11:03,259 --> 00:11:05,994 Uh, just the cupboards being opened. 224 00:11:05,996 --> 00:11:07,395 Lots of cupboards. 225 00:11:07,397 --> 00:11:09,130 I'm thinking, you know, 226 00:11:09,132 --> 00:11:12,166 Lori leaving the cupboards again and it's not. 227 00:11:12,168 --> 00:11:14,986 And do they lock in, or are they loose? 228 00:11:14,988 --> 00:11:16,337 They do catch. 229 00:11:16,339 --> 00:11:18,039 Do you hear it, or you just go in there and you see it? 230 00:11:18,041 --> 00:11:19,674 Just go in and see it. 231 00:11:19,676 --> 00:11:21,876 Just after I just closed 'em. 232 00:11:21,878 --> 00:11:25,146 - Anything else? - Yes. 233 00:11:25,148 --> 00:11:26,848 My daughter, she got pushed. 234 00:11:26,850 --> 00:11:28,416 - She got pushed. - Mm-hmm. 235 00:11:28,418 --> 00:11:31,185 She was outside on the steps, out there by the fish pond 236 00:11:31,187 --> 00:11:33,388 - before the fish pond was put in. - Okay. 237 00:11:33,390 --> 00:11:36,257 And I was sitting inside the house, and she ran in, 238 00:11:36,259 --> 00:11:37,992 just screaming in hysterics. 239 00:11:37,994 --> 00:11:39,577 And she's sure it wasn't one of the animals 240 00:11:39,579 --> 00:11:41,429 - bumping into her or anything like that? - No, no. 241 00:11:41,431 --> 00:11:43,564 I know she's very well stressed out about it. 242 00:11:43,566 --> 00:11:45,466 She's very scared. 243 00:11:45,468 --> 00:11:48,569 It's not fair. It's not fair to anybody. 244 00:11:54,143 --> 00:11:57,078 AMY: There's someone with long brown hair. 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,513 I think it's a girl. 246 00:11:58,515 --> 00:12:00,948 Something's happening to her. 247 00:12:00,950 --> 00:12:03,785 Something's, like, attacking her. 248 00:12:05,387 --> 00:12:07,005 Her arms, she can't lift them 249 00:12:07,007 --> 00:12:09,057 because they are being held down. 250 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:18,933 I don't know what that was. 251 00:12:19,761 --> 00:12:20,982 _ 252 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:28,276 There was this weird person that ran out of here 253 00:12:28,278 --> 00:12:32,980 and then jumped out at me, growled, 254 00:12:32,982 --> 00:12:35,850 and was, like, trying to bite my chest and my throat. 255 00:12:35,852 --> 00:12:39,654 They just ran... ran away, and it was, like, out of nowhere. 256 00:12:39,656 --> 00:12:42,890 It definitely creeped me out, though. 257 00:12:47,846 --> 00:12:49,697 DEVIN: I've seen an apparition. 258 00:12:49,699 --> 00:12:51,299 - Of what? - Of a lady. 259 00:12:51,301 --> 00:12:52,934 What kind of clothing we talking about? 260 00:12:52,936 --> 00:12:56,370 Talking about the old... old school, like 18th century. 261 00:12:56,372 --> 00:12:58,039 You know, those old shirts that used to balloon out? 262 00:12:58,041 --> 00:12:59,474 - Puff... puff out, yeah. - Puff out. 263 00:12:59,476 --> 00:13:01,459 - That's what she was wearing. - Okay. 264 00:13:01,461 --> 00:13:03,928 Now, if you had to guess on an age of this person, 265 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:05,012 what would you think? 266 00:13:05,014 --> 00:13:08,282 Probably 30s, 40s, something like that. 267 00:13:08,284 --> 00:13:10,017 Okay. So, not... not a young teenage girl. 268 00:13:10,019 --> 00:13:11,452 Were you drinking the night before? 269 00:13:11,454 --> 00:13:12,336 - Where you woke up a little hammered? - No, no. 270 00:13:12,338 --> 00:13:13,755 - Nothing like that? - No. 271 00:13:13,757 --> 00:13:16,691 Definitely more than one entity that comes through here, 272 00:13:16,693 --> 00:13:17,959 and it just seems like 273 00:13:17,961 --> 00:13:20,495 spirits are trying to get to the other side, 274 00:13:20,497 --> 00:13:22,313 and this is a go-through. 275 00:13:22,315 --> 00:13:23,981 Okay. 276 00:13:30,773 --> 00:13:35,510 I think most of the activity is coming from outside. 277 00:13:37,246 --> 00:13:40,381 It's very unsettled. 278 00:13:40,383 --> 00:13:43,151 There's a lot of traffic. 279 00:13:43,153 --> 00:13:46,954 Dead traffic. 280 00:13:46,956 --> 00:13:50,258 The house isn't in a good place. 281 00:13:54,630 --> 00:13:58,349 The first hallway is here, 282 00:13:58,351 --> 00:14:02,336 and mostly what I'm seeing coming out of this end 283 00:14:02,338 --> 00:14:05,840 are more creature-like things. 284 00:14:05,842 --> 00:14:08,976 Things I don't know what they are. 285 00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:12,613 Next to it is a path 286 00:14:12,615 --> 00:14:16,450 that a lot of the dead people are on. 287 00:14:16,452 --> 00:14:21,088 Sometimes, the ones that are consciously dead 288 00:14:21,090 --> 00:14:27,695 will... will wander off the path and can go into the house. 289 00:14:36,471 --> 00:14:38,372 STEVE: Julie, I was talking to Lori 290 00:14:38,374 --> 00:14:40,308 and she says you work and live here. 291 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:41,342 Correct. 292 00:14:41,344 --> 00:14:42,643 Okay. How long has that been going on? 293 00:14:42,645 --> 00:14:44,295 I've worked here a little over two years 294 00:14:44,297 --> 00:14:45,746 and lived here about eight months. 295 00:14:45,748 --> 00:14:47,448 Now, you've had experiences here? 296 00:14:47,450 --> 00:14:48,583 Yes, I have. 297 00:14:48,585 --> 00:14:51,319 The first one being a human bite mark 298 00:14:51,321 --> 00:14:52,787 right here on my arm. 299 00:14:52,789 --> 00:14:54,889 I woke up with it. 300 00:14:54,891 --> 00:14:56,207 Okay. Was it, like, red? 301 00:14:56,209 --> 00:14:57,558 Oh, yeah. 302 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,495 Just like little, tiny... like a human bite mark. 303 00:15:01,497 --> 00:15:02,864 Why did I get a bite mark? 304 00:15:02,866 --> 00:15:04,599 You know, I don't... I don't know. 305 00:15:04,601 --> 00:15:06,467 Why me? 306 00:15:06,469 --> 00:15:09,237 I can see it upsets you, just thinking about it. 307 00:15:09,239 --> 00:15:11,472 It does. 308 00:15:11,474 --> 00:15:13,958 You know, I'm not gonna leave, though. 309 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,943 I mean, I'm just... I won't. 310 00:15:15,945 --> 00:15:17,545 Well, you take care of these people 311 00:15:17,547 --> 00:15:18,713 like you're family to them. 312 00:15:18,715 --> 00:15:22,450 They are my family. 313 00:15:22,452 --> 00:15:24,986 Now, let me ask you a question, Julie. 314 00:15:24,988 --> 00:15:27,455 Is there any place in the house or anywhere at all 315 00:15:27,457 --> 00:15:28,606 that you don't like at all? 316 00:15:28,608 --> 00:15:30,691 Yes, the wooded area outside. 317 00:15:30,693 --> 00:15:32,460 On two different occasions, 318 00:15:32,462 --> 00:15:35,796 I've seen a light flicker and it was black outside. 319 00:15:35,798 --> 00:15:37,048 Totally dark, no lights. 320 00:15:37,050 --> 00:15:38,816 I can imagine it gets dark here. 321 00:15:38,818 --> 00:15:40,034 It does get very dark, 322 00:15:40,036 --> 00:15:44,171 and this was very clear that it was a light. 323 00:15:44,173 --> 00:15:45,990 I don't have a reason for it. 324 00:15:45,992 --> 00:15:50,144 It's like someone stood out there and lit a lighter. 325 00:15:50,146 --> 00:15:53,414 It scares me, and I come in, you know? 326 00:15:53,416 --> 00:15:55,783 But you did check the first time you saw it? 327 00:15:55,785 --> 00:15:57,852 I did, and the next morning I went out 328 00:15:57,854 --> 00:15:59,553 and looked to see if possibly 329 00:15:59,555 --> 00:16:01,589 there was a cigarette butt, you know? 330 00:16:01,591 --> 00:16:02,590 - Right. - There was nothing. 331 00:16:08,864 --> 00:16:15,336 There's this path next to this hallway thing. 332 00:16:15,338 --> 00:16:18,773 It goes this way, too, pretty far. 333 00:16:18,775 --> 00:16:25,513 Also, I think that, you know, sometimes, over the years, 334 00:16:25,515 --> 00:16:30,318 some living people have gone into this and have disappeared. 335 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,386 MATTHEW: Somebody could just walk 336 00:16:32,388 --> 00:16:34,755 into this hallway thing and disappear? 337 00:16:34,757 --> 00:16:36,791 I do think so, yes. 338 00:16:36,793 --> 00:16:37,858 So, where does it go? 339 00:16:37,860 --> 00:16:39,994 I'd say other dimensions. 340 00:16:39,996 --> 00:16:41,279 Where do those go? 341 00:16:41,281 --> 00:16:42,280 I... I don't know. 342 00:16:42,282 --> 00:16:43,764 I don't want to know. 343 00:16:59,075 --> 00:17:00,609 I went through the property deeds 344 00:17:00,611 --> 00:17:02,327 and nothing really jumped out at me, 345 00:17:02,329 --> 00:17:03,445 but when I got in touch 346 00:17:03,447 --> 00:17:05,247 with a local historian and author, 347 00:17:05,249 --> 00:17:07,115 she said the story of the first owner 348 00:17:07,117 --> 00:17:09,034 of Lori's property might help my case. 349 00:17:15,591 --> 00:17:17,425 STEVE: Well, Diane, thanks for taking the time to meet me. 350 00:17:17,427 --> 00:17:18,760 I appreciate that. 351 00:17:18,762 --> 00:17:20,679 So, who exactly was the first owner of the property 352 00:17:20,681 --> 00:17:21,897 I'm investigating? 353 00:17:21,899 --> 00:17:25,767 Rufus Beamon was the first owner of the property. 354 00:17:25,769 --> 00:17:28,136 This is a picture of him. 355 00:17:32,208 --> 00:17:35,644 This is the documents showing his ownership 356 00:17:35,646 --> 00:17:38,763 of 320 acres in... in the area of Roseburg. 357 00:17:38,765 --> 00:17:41,183 Gosh, that's a lot of property. 358 00:17:41,185 --> 00:17:42,350 That was standard. 359 00:17:42,352 --> 00:17:45,387 And if you were married, you got 640 acres. 360 00:17:45,389 --> 00:17:46,488 Wow. 361 00:17:53,462 --> 00:17:56,164 AMY: Uh, there's somebody on the floor. 362 00:17:56,166 --> 00:18:00,335 Why is this person on the floor? 363 00:18:00,337 --> 00:18:02,721 It's like something paranormal happened to him, 364 00:18:02,723 --> 00:18:04,406 and he fell down because of it. 365 00:18:13,583 --> 00:18:17,886 So, that's where he went. 366 00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:22,591 He just wants to show me things that happened to him here. 367 00:18:22,593 --> 00:18:27,495 He was haunted here. 368 00:18:27,497 --> 00:18:34,302 What I saw so far was him being in a chair and freaking out. 369 00:18:34,304 --> 00:18:36,905 I don't know if he built this place 370 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:39,407 or if he's the first owner of it, 371 00:18:39,409 --> 00:18:43,311 but he feels like that to me. 372 00:18:46,515 --> 00:18:49,251 Now, Diane, you mentioned that this guy, Beamon, 373 00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:51,219 had an interesting story that may help my case. What did you mean by that? 374 00:18:51,221 --> 00:18:54,456 He participated in the Rogue River Indian Wars. 375 00:18:54,458 --> 00:18:55,523 What happened? 376 00:18:55,525 --> 00:18:57,792 Settlers wanted the land, 377 00:18:57,794 --> 00:19:00,762 and the Native Americans, of course, 378 00:19:00,764 --> 00:19:04,115 were being shoved off their land and kind of fought back. 379 00:19:04,117 --> 00:19:05,233 Okay. 380 00:19:05,235 --> 00:19:07,902 The battle he was involved in, 381 00:19:07,904 --> 00:19:10,138 called the Battle of Hungry Hill, 382 00:19:10,140 --> 00:19:13,875 took place on October 31, 1855. 383 00:19:13,877 --> 00:19:15,644 Where exactly was this battle set? 384 00:19:15,646 --> 00:19:17,112 Just out of Roseburg. 385 00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,680 Okay. 386 00:19:18,682 --> 00:19:20,799 A group of the Native Americans 387 00:19:20,801 --> 00:19:22,784 had gone into the hills to hide. 388 00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:26,388 One of the Native Americans situated himself 389 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:28,356 so that he was a sniper, 390 00:19:28,358 --> 00:19:32,594 and he started shooting the men that were coming up the hill. 391 00:19:32,596 --> 00:19:34,796 So now, how bloody did this battle get? 392 00:19:34,798 --> 00:19:37,782 And the settlers and the militia 393 00:19:37,784 --> 00:19:39,484 lost about 39 men. 394 00:19:39,486 --> 00:19:42,604 The Native Americans probably had 15 to 16 casualties. 395 00:19:42,606 --> 00:19:46,424 This is the only battle that the Native Americans won. 396 00:19:46,426 --> 00:19:49,644 So now, did Beamon come out of this okay? 397 00:19:49,646 --> 00:19:50,679 Yes, he did. 398 00:19:50,681 --> 00:19:53,581 He returned home to his property, 399 00:19:53,583 --> 00:19:56,418 and he lived on the land for a few more years 400 00:19:56,420 --> 00:19:57,702 before he sold it, 401 00:19:57,704 --> 00:20:00,722 and then he moved up to Washington in 1861. 402 00:20:00,724 --> 00:20:02,557 So, what happens to the Native Americans? 403 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:07,195 In April of 1856, they were all rounded up 404 00:20:07,197 --> 00:20:10,732 and sent to reservations up in Northern Oregon. 405 00:20:10,734 --> 00:20:12,534 Okay. Did they ever come back here? 406 00:20:12,536 --> 00:20:15,904 No, they never regained their original lands. 407 00:20:15,906 --> 00:20:18,907 Just recently, some archaeologists found 408 00:20:18,909 --> 00:20:22,010 the original battle site and excavated it. 409 00:20:24,613 --> 00:20:27,349 The man downstairs thinks 410 00:20:27,351 --> 00:20:33,488 that it's all Native American curse stuff 411 00:20:33,490 --> 00:20:38,426 because he says that up the hill there, 412 00:20:38,428 --> 00:20:41,830 somebody did something bad to their Native American stuff. 413 00:20:43,816 --> 00:20:48,603 He says that they were doing some... some excavating. 414 00:20:48,605 --> 00:20:54,709 They were digging stuff up, and that's what he thinks happened. 415 00:21:05,554 --> 00:21:07,922 I'm real sick in this room. 416 00:21:10,459 --> 00:21:11,626 Really, really sick. 417 00:21:11,628 --> 00:21:14,329 Do you know if there's something causing this? 418 00:21:14,331 --> 00:21:17,265 Think that some of the physical ailments 419 00:21:17,267 --> 00:21:20,835 is due to some of the activity here. 420 00:21:23,038 --> 00:21:24,672 Real bad, real bad. 421 00:21:28,544 --> 00:21:31,045 Really bad. Oh. 422 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,067 STEVE: So far, I've got clients 423 00:21:47,069 --> 00:21:49,003 being terrorized by unexplained activity 424 00:21:49,005 --> 00:21:51,205 and a property that's been the site of bloodshed 425 00:21:51,207 --> 00:21:53,474 between Native Americans and white settlers. 426 00:21:53,476 --> 00:21:55,676 But I need to see if there's anything else. 427 00:21:57,379 --> 00:21:58,812 Searching through old records, 428 00:21:58,814 --> 00:22:00,781 I found a man named Richard Brumfield, 429 00:22:00,783 --> 00:22:03,017 who committed a brutal murder in 1921. 430 00:22:03,019 --> 00:22:05,219 Turns out, he has a direct connection 431 00:22:05,221 --> 00:22:06,520 to my client's property. 432 00:22:08,673 --> 00:22:10,441 As soon as I found out a murder victim 433 00:22:10,443 --> 00:22:11,742 was dumped on Lori's property, 434 00:22:11,744 --> 00:22:13,727 first call I made was to the local sheriff. 435 00:22:13,729 --> 00:22:16,463 He said it was one of the most horrific murders 436 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:17,898 in Roseburg's history. 437 00:22:26,441 --> 00:22:30,511 So, the articles I came across show that a body was dumped 438 00:22:30,513 --> 00:22:32,580 on what was once my client's property, 439 00:22:32,582 --> 00:22:35,232 and it was a sensational case. 440 00:22:35,234 --> 00:22:37,918 What do you know about the guy, Brumfield himself? 441 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,253 Well, I know Brumfield 442 00:22:39,255 --> 00:22:42,373 was a very influential professional here in Roseburg. 443 00:22:42,375 --> 00:22:45,125 He was a dentist that moved here in about 1909 444 00:22:45,127 --> 00:22:47,394 and was popular in all the social circles 445 00:22:47,396 --> 00:22:49,496 here in Roseburg at the time, as well. 446 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:51,632 Okay. So, what do you know about the case itself? 447 00:22:51,634 --> 00:22:53,267 Well, let me show you something. 448 00:22:59,074 --> 00:23:02,076 So, this picture here is of Dr. Brumfield, 449 00:23:02,078 --> 00:23:05,379 the dentist and suspect in this homicide case. 450 00:23:05,381 --> 00:23:08,716 This picture here, this is of the victim that he murdered. 451 00:23:08,718 --> 00:23:11,051 - That's William Russell. - Now, who was he? 452 00:23:11,053 --> 00:23:12,753 Well, William Russell worked on a local farm. 453 00:23:12,755 --> 00:23:14,054 Okay. 454 00:23:14,056 --> 00:23:17,875 The doctor was looking for someone that he could kill 455 00:23:17,877 --> 00:23:21,579 and use the body to fake his own death. 456 00:23:21,581 --> 00:23:24,698 So, he murders this guy to make it look like it's him? 457 00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:26,000 That's correct. 458 00:23:26,002 --> 00:23:27,301 What's the motive to kill this guy, then? 459 00:23:27,303 --> 00:23:29,570 Well, Brumfield wanted to start a new life 460 00:23:29,572 --> 00:23:31,338 with his mistress up in Canada. 461 00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:32,940 How's he wind up murdering him 462 00:23:32,942 --> 00:23:35,242 and trying to make it look like his own body? 463 00:23:35,244 --> 00:23:38,812 He ends up drinking with Mr. Russell, 464 00:23:38,814 --> 00:23:40,197 feeds him some Strychnine. 465 00:23:40,199 --> 00:23:41,482 That doesn't kill him. 466 00:23:41,484 --> 00:23:44,218 He ends up having to finish the job with a rifle, 467 00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:45,586 and he shoots him twice. 468 00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:48,689 He places his body in his vehicle here. 469 00:23:48,691 --> 00:23:51,675 Dr. Brumfield placed him in that car, 470 00:23:51,677 --> 00:23:53,994 he took his own ring off of his finger 471 00:23:53,996 --> 00:23:56,163 and placed it on the victim's hand. 472 00:23:56,165 --> 00:23:57,564 Okay. 473 00:23:57,566 --> 00:24:00,634 He actually removes the victim's dentures, or his teeth, 474 00:24:00,636 --> 00:24:04,004 and placed a stick of dynamite in the mouth of the victim, 475 00:24:04,006 --> 00:24:08,275 which ultimately exploded and decapitated the body. 476 00:24:08,277 --> 00:24:10,511 Then the car was doused with gasoline and lit on fire 477 00:24:10,513 --> 00:24:11,578 and pushed off the road. 478 00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:13,914 Okay, so that's how this car winds up 479 00:24:13,916 --> 00:24:16,083 in my client's property at that time. 480 00:24:16,085 --> 00:24:17,284 That's correct. 481 00:24:17,286 --> 00:24:19,970 This is the death certificate for William Russell. 482 00:24:19,972 --> 00:24:22,856 So, how did the cops wind up figuring out 483 00:24:22,858 --> 00:24:24,508 that it wasn't Brumfield in the car? 484 00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:27,928 Well, during the investigation, the subsequent autopsy, 485 00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:30,230 they found a document on the victim 486 00:24:30,232 --> 00:24:31,932 in the name of Mr. Russell. 487 00:24:31,934 --> 00:24:34,134 I mean, this guy really thought everything out 488 00:24:34,136 --> 00:24:36,704 except for that one little detail, as smart as he was. 489 00:24:36,706 --> 00:24:38,972 They always say there's at least one mistake left behind 490 00:24:38,974 --> 00:24:40,207 in a crime scene. 491 00:24:40,209 --> 00:24:42,493 Did they catch him immediately? What happens? 492 00:24:42,495 --> 00:24:45,979 They start a search looking for Dr. Brumfield. 493 00:24:45,981 --> 00:24:47,665 They can't find him locally, 494 00:24:47,667 --> 00:24:50,317 and they end up distributing wanted posters 495 00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:52,519 throughout the Pacific Northwest. 496 00:24:52,521 --> 00:24:54,388 How's he get caught now? 497 00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:57,191 Well, he ends up getting identified 498 00:24:57,193 --> 00:24:59,943 by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. 499 00:24:59,945 --> 00:25:01,995 - Up in Canada? - Up in Canada. 500 00:25:01,997 --> 00:25:02,980 Okay. So, they apprehend him. 501 00:25:02,982 --> 00:25:03,931 They did. 502 00:25:03,933 --> 00:25:06,333 This was a "News-Review" article 503 00:25:06,335 --> 00:25:08,068 when he was caught up in Canada. 504 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:10,938 - I'm assuming he gets extradited down here. - He did. 505 00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:12,740 Okay. So, does he go to trial? What happened? 506 00:25:12,742 --> 00:25:15,726 Went to trial, he was convicted of first-degree murder 507 00:25:15,728 --> 00:25:18,095 and sentenced to death by hanging. 508 00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:19,680 Okay. So, did they wind up hanging him? 509 00:25:19,682 --> 00:25:21,999 Actually, before he was executed, 510 00:25:22,001 --> 00:25:25,452 he hung himself while we was in the Oregon State Pen. 511 00:25:25,454 --> 00:25:27,054 Copy of the death certificate 512 00:25:27,056 --> 00:25:29,089 from the Oregon State Penitentiary, 513 00:25:29,091 --> 00:25:32,192 showing that he committed suicide by hanging. 514 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:45,873 Someone keeps saying the word "predator" 515 00:25:45,875 --> 00:25:47,975 over and over again. 516 00:25:47,977 --> 00:25:53,414 I felt something bearing down on me, 517 00:25:53,416 --> 00:25:58,402 and feeling like something really large 518 00:25:58,404 --> 00:26:02,790 was behind me, 519 00:26:02,792 --> 00:26:04,858 like, running after me. 520 00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:06,994 Like, down the hill or something. 521 00:26:06,996 --> 00:26:09,263 And then I hear that predator. 522 00:26:19,140 --> 00:26:22,209 I encountered several entities during my walk, 523 00:26:22,211 --> 00:26:23,944 but two stood out the most. 524 00:26:23,946 --> 00:26:27,548 First, the creature I saw trying to get into the house. 525 00:26:27,550 --> 00:26:30,517 It was kind of clinging to the house. 526 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:36,890 It has, like, these really long limbs that end in these claws. 527 00:26:36,892 --> 00:26:39,610 Did he have, uh, teeth or fangs, specifically? 528 00:26:39,612 --> 00:26:41,662 Yeah, a lot of fangs. 529 00:26:41,664 --> 00:26:44,565 Next, I described the haunted dead man. 530 00:26:44,567 --> 00:26:51,321 He's about 65, pretty defined square jaw. 531 00:26:51,323 --> 00:26:57,044 His nose was pretty thin, he had pretty narrow lips. 532 00:26:59,113 --> 00:27:00,481 Is that who you saw? 533 00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:04,485 Yes. 534 00:27:25,788 --> 00:27:28,357 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 535 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,525 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 536 00:27:30,527 --> 00:27:32,794 and our clients for the first time. 537 00:27:32,796 --> 00:27:35,681 Now, Amy, I don't know if you picked up on this 538 00:27:35,683 --> 00:27:39,134 during your walk, but this is both a home and a business. 539 00:27:39,136 --> 00:27:43,455 Now, on this level, Lori lives here with Devin, her boyfriend, 540 00:27:43,457 --> 00:27:46,308 and his 9-year-old daughter, Cameron. 541 00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:49,211 And downstairs, she has three elderly women 542 00:27:49,213 --> 00:27:52,047 that she takes care of as patients, full time. 543 00:27:52,049 --> 00:27:53,515 They live here. 544 00:27:53,517 --> 00:27:56,151 And you have a caretaker, Julie, that lives down there also. 545 00:27:56,153 --> 00:27:58,520 Now, there's a lot of activity here, 546 00:27:58,522 --> 00:28:01,373 and Lori's afraid for the patients downstairs 547 00:28:01,375 --> 00:28:05,060 and she thinks whatever's here is ripping her and Devin apart. 548 00:28:05,062 --> 00:28:07,763 So, now that I told Amy a little bit about 549 00:28:07,765 --> 00:28:11,366 what's going on, I'm gonna have her describe her walk to us. 550 00:28:13,603 --> 00:28:20,575 This is a very active area, and some of it's pretty unusual. 551 00:28:20,577 --> 00:28:24,312 When I came into the house, 552 00:28:24,314 --> 00:28:28,150 I saw a male laying on the floor, 553 00:28:28,152 --> 00:28:29,684 apparently dead. 554 00:28:29,686 --> 00:28:34,156 He was being tormented by something, 555 00:28:34,158 --> 00:28:38,744 and I thought that he had built this place 556 00:28:38,746 --> 00:28:42,731 or was the first owner of the home. 557 00:28:42,733 --> 00:28:46,084 He was convinced that he had all of these problems 558 00:28:46,086 --> 00:28:49,504 because he thinks there's a Native American curse, 559 00:28:49,506 --> 00:28:52,407 and he was talking about 560 00:28:52,409 --> 00:28:55,877 how something bad happened to them. 561 00:28:55,879 --> 00:28:59,581 But he kept going on and on about archaeologists 562 00:28:59,583 --> 00:29:03,385 or, like, students or something, digging up stuff, 563 00:29:03,387 --> 00:29:08,356 and that that's what caused the problems. 564 00:29:08,358 --> 00:29:10,492 Well, it makes sense to me a little bit. 565 00:29:10,494 --> 00:29:12,811 I don't know if it's gonna make sense to Amy, 566 00:29:12,813 --> 00:29:14,896 because the original owner of your land 567 00:29:14,898 --> 00:29:16,364 was a man named Rufus Beamon. 568 00:29:16,366 --> 00:29:21,403 Now, Beamon was granted 320 acres back in 1850. 569 00:29:21,405 --> 00:29:24,990 And your house is right in the middle of his original property. 570 00:29:24,992 --> 00:29:27,492 Now, when you talk about the Native American curse, 571 00:29:27,494 --> 00:29:30,078 in the 1850s, there was the Rogue River Indian Wars. 572 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,614 Beamon was involved in the only battle 573 00:29:32,616 --> 00:29:34,549 that white settlers were involved in 574 00:29:34,551 --> 00:29:37,252 with the Native Americans that the white settlers lost. 575 00:29:37,254 --> 00:29:39,321 The Americans had 39 casualties, 576 00:29:39,323 --> 00:29:42,724 and I think the Native Americans only had 15 losses. 577 00:29:42,726 --> 00:29:45,427 Even though Native Americans won that battle, 578 00:29:45,429 --> 00:29:47,946 they all got displaced to Northern Oregon 579 00:29:47,948 --> 00:29:49,231 and never came back. 580 00:29:49,233 --> 00:29:51,166 - Now, you mentioned archaeologists. - Yeah. 581 00:29:51,168 --> 00:29:53,368 They just discovered, only a couple of years ago, 582 00:29:53,370 --> 00:29:55,237 remnants from that actual war. 583 00:29:55,239 --> 00:29:56,404 Wow. 584 00:29:56,406 --> 00:29:59,474 So, Amy, do you think this is the guy you saw? 585 00:30:01,377 --> 00:30:04,412 I did do a sketch of the person that I saw, 586 00:30:04,414 --> 00:30:06,481 but he looked much older. 587 00:30:13,606 --> 00:30:15,223 You guys take a look. You tell me. 588 00:30:16,526 --> 00:30:17,792 Wow. 589 00:30:20,229 --> 00:30:24,366 Look at the nose. His hair's even parted right. 590 00:30:25,735 --> 00:30:27,419 STEVE: I've seen thousands and thousands of sketches 591 00:30:27,421 --> 00:30:28,703 during my time. 592 00:30:28,705 --> 00:30:35,110 Between the eyes, the nose... pretty damn close. 593 00:30:35,112 --> 00:30:36,344 Now, do you think Beamon's your guy? 594 00:30:36,346 --> 00:30:38,480 Very possible. 595 00:30:42,552 --> 00:30:45,053 How did the rest of your walk go? 596 00:30:45,055 --> 00:30:47,889 So, when I got here, I saw 597 00:30:47,891 --> 00:30:51,560 that there had been a barrier put up around the house, 598 00:30:51,562 --> 00:30:54,362 which was actually a smart thing to do 599 00:30:54,364 --> 00:30:56,932 because there is so much activity. 600 00:30:58,651 --> 00:31:01,002 We have saged here before. 601 00:31:01,004 --> 00:31:03,054 Have you done the outside of the house? 602 00:31:03,056 --> 00:31:04,773 - Everywhere. - Okay. 603 00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:08,543 When I was walking around, I went into the master bedroom. 604 00:31:08,545 --> 00:31:11,429 And that's where I got a couple of things. 605 00:31:11,431 --> 00:31:14,232 One was that you probably have abilities, 606 00:31:14,234 --> 00:31:17,269 and that you may know it. 607 00:31:17,271 --> 00:31:19,271 That it runs in your family. 608 00:31:19,273 --> 00:31:22,307 And what happens is that 609 00:31:22,309 --> 00:31:26,094 some of the dead that wander about here will come in, 610 00:31:26,096 --> 00:31:29,531 and they're curious about you. 611 00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:32,651 And you don't know, inherently, how to move them on 612 00:31:32,653 --> 00:31:34,369 because you're not a medium. 613 00:31:34,371 --> 00:31:36,538 You're a psychic. 614 00:31:38,407 --> 00:31:40,575 Now, did you have any idea you might be a psychic? 615 00:31:40,577 --> 00:31:41,710 Yeah, yeah. 616 00:31:41,712 --> 00:31:43,812 You didn't tell me that, did you? 617 00:31:43,814 --> 00:31:44,813 I don't tell anybody. 618 00:31:44,815 --> 00:31:46,581 Why? 619 00:31:46,583 --> 00:31:49,351 'Cause I don't like it. I shut it down. 620 00:31:49,353 --> 00:31:51,870 You know, some of the things I've seen, 621 00:31:51,872 --> 00:31:53,688 I don't want to see 'em. 622 00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:54,789 What about your family? 623 00:31:54,791 --> 00:31:56,091 Did anybody in your family, 624 00:31:56,093 --> 00:31:58,193 like your grandmother or anything like that? 625 00:31:58,195 --> 00:32:01,096 My mom, my aunts, my great aunt, all the way down. 626 00:32:01,098 --> 00:32:02,163 Oh, interesting. 627 00:32:04,967 --> 00:32:07,035 So, what else did you see? 628 00:32:07,037 --> 00:32:10,405 Most of the activity that's happening here 629 00:32:10,407 --> 00:32:14,092 is actually coming from two different places outside. 630 00:32:14,094 --> 00:32:19,981 The first one, it looks almost like this very long hallway. 631 00:32:19,983 --> 00:32:24,052 And what I saw coming out of it 632 00:32:24,054 --> 00:32:30,025 was these really odd, mutant animals. 633 00:32:30,027 --> 00:32:32,894 One, in particular, jumps on the house. 634 00:32:32,896 --> 00:32:36,748 He would bang on the house, scratch on the house. 635 00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:38,233 Uh, there was some growling. 636 00:32:39,735 --> 00:32:43,321 And he's been doing this for a very, very long time, 637 00:32:43,323 --> 00:32:44,939 trying to get in, 638 00:32:44,941 --> 00:32:47,008 but he doesn't have the wherewithal to get in. 639 00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:48,877 Yeah. You guys were looking at each other 640 00:32:48,879 --> 00:32:50,912 when she was describing, like, the scratching 641 00:32:50,914 --> 00:32:52,047 and all this other stuff. 642 00:32:52,049 --> 00:32:56,117 Yeah, that's exactly what we hear all the time. 643 00:32:58,654 --> 00:33:00,188 Why are you shaking, Lori? 644 00:33:00,190 --> 00:33:01,156 It's just overwhelming. 645 00:33:01,158 --> 00:33:03,725 I did do a sketch of him. 646 00:33:03,727 --> 00:33:04,759 [Shudders] 647 00:33:04,761 --> 00:33:06,161 - Of the creature? - Yeah. 648 00:33:06,163 --> 00:33:07,362 Oh, I got to see this. 649 00:33:07,364 --> 00:33:08,530 The one that I saw. 650 00:33:08,566 --> 00:33:10,566 _ 651 00:33:15,805 --> 00:33:17,138 That's the weirdest-looking thing... 652 00:33:23,318 --> 00:33:24,918 _ 653 00:33:25,347 --> 00:33:27,215 What does it want? 654 00:33:27,217 --> 00:33:28,616 He wants in. 655 00:33:28,618 --> 00:33:30,101 Oh. 656 00:33:30,103 --> 00:33:33,021 What would happen if he came in? 657 00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:37,192 Cause problems. 658 00:33:37,194 --> 00:33:39,661 Geez. 659 00:33:39,663 --> 00:33:41,129 So much going on. 660 00:33:41,131 --> 00:33:46,534 I have come out here, and it'd be at nighttime, 661 00:33:46,536 --> 00:33:48,353 and I can just feel the presence 662 00:33:48,355 --> 00:33:50,672 of whatever at the time it was here. 663 00:33:50,674 --> 00:33:55,643 Creepy, weird things, like, were in those trees. 664 00:33:55,645 --> 00:33:59,514 That part got me afraid, and that's where into the lay... 665 00:33:59,516 --> 00:34:02,400 "Lord Jesus Christ, leave... leave us alone." 666 00:34:02,402 --> 00:34:04,586 - Mm-hmm. - "Just leave us alone." 667 00:34:06,021 --> 00:34:09,357 Now, you said there were two things in the woods. 668 00:34:09,359 --> 00:34:11,126 What was the second thing? 669 00:34:11,128 --> 00:34:14,629 The second thing, which is very near to the hallway, 670 00:34:14,631 --> 00:34:16,948 is actually a path. 671 00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:20,952 And so, there were all these dead people, 672 00:34:20,954 --> 00:34:23,538 you know, on this, going back and forth. 673 00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:26,074 Literally, back and forth on this trail. 674 00:34:26,076 --> 00:34:28,726 It goes right through, right through here. 675 00:34:28,728 --> 00:34:31,813 And occasionally, some of them wander off 676 00:34:31,815 --> 00:34:34,516 and they'll come through the house. 677 00:34:34,518 --> 00:34:39,354 So, due to this... pathway, 678 00:34:39,356 --> 00:34:44,542 there were three things that I think can bother you guys. 679 00:34:44,544 --> 00:34:47,262 The first thing is illnesses, definitely. 680 00:34:47,264 --> 00:34:52,634 Nausea, flu-like symptoms, headaches. 681 00:34:52,636 --> 00:34:56,037 And as sensitives, this would be harder on you 682 00:34:56,039 --> 00:35:00,141 than people who are closed. 683 00:35:00,143 --> 00:35:03,394 She just described everything you're feeling. 684 00:35:03,396 --> 00:35:04,512 You haven't been well, right? 685 00:35:04,514 --> 00:35:05,647 I mean, everybody in this house is sick. 686 00:35:05,649 --> 00:35:09,033 You got diagnosed with fibromyalgia. 687 00:35:09,035 --> 00:35:10,552 Yeah. 688 00:35:10,554 --> 00:35:13,404 But the weird part is when they're not here, they're okay. 689 00:35:13,406 --> 00:35:17,175 You look like you got a headache now. 690 00:35:17,177 --> 00:35:21,729 I just feel, uh, my energy level 691 00:35:21,731 --> 00:35:25,400 has just totally been sucked dry. 692 00:35:25,402 --> 00:35:27,168 Okay, okay. That kind of makes sense. 693 00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:28,203 All right. 694 00:35:28,205 --> 00:35:30,155 Why? 695 00:35:30,157 --> 00:35:33,908 Because the dead are here, and it zaps our energy. 696 00:35:37,780 --> 00:35:41,182 And the second thing I was getting was, like, mood swings. 697 00:35:41,184 --> 00:35:43,618 One of the main reasons we were called in by in you 698 00:35:43,620 --> 00:35:46,120 was because you guys are on the verge of breaking up 699 00:35:46,122 --> 00:35:47,555 because of these mood swings. 700 00:35:47,557 --> 00:35:49,791 That's a big factor. 701 00:35:49,793 --> 00:35:52,877 It escalates to where we just don't talk to each other, 702 00:35:52,879 --> 00:35:55,396 and we're arguing for, like, the next week. 703 00:35:55,398 --> 00:35:57,365 They feed off our negativity. 704 00:35:57,367 --> 00:36:01,336 They want us to fight, they want us to just destroy... 705 00:36:01,338 --> 00:36:03,037 - Mm-hmm. - our relationship. 706 00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:06,407 It's not, like, a happy home at all. 707 00:36:10,913 --> 00:36:15,149 The third way the dead can affect you is very concerning. 708 00:36:15,151 --> 00:36:17,552 Some of them can make physical contact, 709 00:36:17,554 --> 00:36:22,824 and I did see a female asleep, 710 00:36:22,826 --> 00:36:26,527 but there was a dead person that was actually holding her, 711 00:36:26,529 --> 00:36:28,563 pinning her down to the bed. 712 00:36:28,565 --> 00:36:31,099 It was a pretty violent thing. 713 00:36:31,101 --> 00:36:33,618 And then I actually had one of the stragglers 714 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:35,036 jump out at me, 715 00:36:35,038 --> 00:36:37,472 and he just ran right up in my face 716 00:36:37,474 --> 00:36:40,858 and he was, like, kind of aiming towards my throat 717 00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:43,278 and chest area to, like, bite me. 718 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,665 I'm wondering if that happened to be what pushed my daughter? 719 00:36:47,667 --> 00:36:50,685 When she was out here at the stairs, she came running, 720 00:36:50,687 --> 00:36:52,470 "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy!" 721 00:36:52,472 --> 00:36:55,740 She was scared. She goes, "I just got pushed." 722 00:36:55,742 --> 00:36:56,874 Mm-hmm. 723 00:36:56,876 --> 00:36:58,359 I actually have a picture of his daughter. 724 00:36:58,361 --> 00:37:01,179 Aw. 725 00:37:01,181 --> 00:37:04,465 Now, her caretaker, Julie, got bit. 726 00:37:04,467 --> 00:37:06,801 She's been scratched, bit, 727 00:37:06,803 --> 00:37:10,071 and she said that she feels that there are spirits here 728 00:37:10,073 --> 00:37:12,607 - is all she told me. - Okay. 729 00:37:12,609 --> 00:37:15,543 So, the scratching, the biting, the pushing, and all that. 730 00:37:15,545 --> 00:37:17,045 Is that all the dead people? 731 00:37:17,047 --> 00:37:18,680 That could be, yeah. Mm-hmm. 732 00:37:18,682 --> 00:37:20,315 The dead that are here, I mean, 733 00:37:20,317 --> 00:37:21,449 is it a threat to them? 734 00:37:21,451 --> 00:37:24,919 Yeah. But my biggest concern 735 00:37:24,921 --> 00:37:30,725 is this in-between place, and the fact that 736 00:37:30,727 --> 00:37:36,297 living people can, though rarely, but they can disappear 737 00:37:36,299 --> 00:37:39,233 into this kind of parallel dimension. 738 00:37:39,235 --> 00:37:41,235 What do you mean by a different dimension? 739 00:37:41,237 --> 00:37:47,408 That these things are coming from parallel universes. 740 00:37:50,579 --> 00:37:52,847 Can we take a little break? 741 00:38:11,728 --> 00:38:17,300 Living people can, though rarely, but they can disappear 742 00:38:17,302 --> 00:38:20,603 into this kind of parallel dimension. 743 00:38:20,605 --> 00:38:22,605 What do you mean by a different dimension? 744 00:38:22,607 --> 00:38:28,778 That these things are coming from parallel universes. 745 00:38:31,949 --> 00:38:34,216 Can we take a little break? 746 00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:41,324 STEVE: You okay? 747 00:38:41,326 --> 00:38:42,158 DEVIN: Yeah, I'll be all right. 748 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,326 I know this is tough, 749 00:38:43,328 --> 00:38:44,827 especially because you got your daughter. 750 00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:46,095 Mm-hmm. 751 00:38:46,097 --> 00:38:48,731 I'm blessed right now that she wasn't here for this. 752 00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,119 Lori, you remember the first time we spoke 753 00:38:53,121 --> 00:38:54,270 and you said you were scared of this house? 754 00:38:54,272 --> 00:38:55,288 Yes. 755 00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:57,039 Well, you had a very good reason for that. 756 00:38:57,041 --> 00:38:59,542 But we still haven't answered your biggest question. 757 00:38:59,544 --> 00:39:01,677 Is it safe for you to stay here with Devin, 758 00:39:01,679 --> 00:39:04,080 and your patients that became your family, really? 759 00:39:04,082 --> 00:39:05,448 So, for that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 760 00:39:07,918 --> 00:39:12,188 I hate it when this happens, and it rarely happens. 761 00:39:12,190 --> 00:39:16,025 But in this particular situation, 762 00:39:16,027 --> 00:39:19,795 this home never should've been built. 763 00:39:19,797 --> 00:39:22,732 This area never should've been developed. 764 00:39:22,734 --> 00:39:28,304 There is truly something supernatural going on 765 00:39:28,306 --> 00:39:33,876 that people, way long ago, before us, 766 00:39:33,878 --> 00:39:37,263 knew and respected and stayed away from. 767 00:39:37,265 --> 00:39:40,516 And, unfortunately, the white man came 768 00:39:40,518 --> 00:39:44,003 and just obliterated those belief systems, 769 00:39:44,005 --> 00:39:48,090 and the people who were respecting those places, 770 00:39:48,092 --> 00:39:50,593 we didn't listen to them. 771 00:39:52,646 --> 00:39:56,465 With that being said, I think you should move. 772 00:39:59,786 --> 00:40:02,672 I don't think that anybody should live here. 773 00:40:02,674 --> 00:40:04,974 I don't think it's safe for anyone 774 00:40:04,976 --> 00:40:07,043 with this situation going on. 775 00:40:07,045 --> 00:40:09,178 So, what do we do with the house? 776 00:40:09,180 --> 00:40:11,080 I mean, nobody can live here. 777 00:40:11,082 --> 00:40:12,915 It's a lot to absorb, 778 00:40:12,917 --> 00:40:15,718 because I've got everything sunk into this house right now. 779 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,586 Sounds like it's just gonna get worse. 780 00:40:17,588 --> 00:40:20,489 If you were to stay, you'd have to sage, 781 00:40:20,491 --> 00:40:21,957 like, twice a day every day 782 00:40:21,959 --> 00:40:23,559 until you got a shaman 783 00:40:23,561 --> 00:40:26,645 who was from this tribe that was displaced. 784 00:40:26,647 --> 00:40:29,215 What that person would be able to do 785 00:40:29,217 --> 00:40:32,368 is create a protective barrier, 786 00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:34,520 but only for the house. 787 00:40:34,522 --> 00:40:38,207 The problem is, is that you'll be safe in the house. 788 00:40:39,543 --> 00:40:40,976 But you're not safe outside. 789 00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:43,879 You can leave the house, 790 00:40:43,881 --> 00:40:45,648 things aren't gonna follow you in 791 00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:47,049 because you'll have the protective barrier. 792 00:40:47,051 --> 00:40:50,820 But there's things all the time out there 793 00:40:50,822 --> 00:40:53,723 that could potentially harm you. 794 00:40:53,725 --> 00:40:55,758 So, this guy, Beamon, that was the first... 795 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,893 was probably right about what's going on here. 796 00:40:57,895 --> 00:40:59,428 Yeah, yeah. 797 00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:02,098 You think he brought it on, or you think he just... 798 00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:05,601 I think he feels guilty. I think he thinks he did. 799 00:41:05,603 --> 00:41:08,754 You know, I know the money situation here was not good. 800 00:41:08,756 --> 00:41:12,708 I mean, you sunk everything into this place. 801 00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:13,843 I mean, what are you gonna try to do? 802 00:41:13,845 --> 00:41:15,211 Do you have any idea? 803 00:41:15,213 --> 00:41:19,448 I'm gonna have to get ahold of the shaman, we'll start there. 804 00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:22,635 I have sage in my drawer. I'll start saging. 805 00:41:22,637 --> 00:41:24,019 We'll get through this, 806 00:41:24,021 --> 00:41:27,189 and we'll get out of here and we'll have a better time. 807 00:41:27,191 --> 00:41:29,325 I mean, right now, we're just living in our own hell. 808 00:41:31,995 --> 00:41:33,329 You didn't think it was gonna be this rough? 809 00:41:33,331 --> 00:41:34,864 I knew it was gonna be rough. 810 00:41:34,866 --> 00:41:37,099 I just didn't know it was gonna be this rough. 811 00:41:37,101 --> 00:41:41,504 There's a silver lining, you know what caused your fighting, 812 00:41:41,506 --> 00:41:44,356 which caused you guys to be on the verge of breaking up. 813 00:41:44,358 --> 00:41:46,842 Maybe now you know why, maybe you can work things out. 814 00:41:46,844 --> 00:41:48,043 That'd be nice. 815 00:41:48,045 --> 00:41:51,080 Yeah, I just got to get back to being myself again 816 00:41:51,082 --> 00:41:52,581 and things might be better. 817 00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:56,252 AMY: I really wish I had better news for Lori and Devin, 818 00:41:56,254 --> 00:42:00,156 but the activity surrounding their home is so powerful. 819 00:42:00,158 --> 00:42:01,957 The only way to ensure their safety 820 00:42:01,959 --> 00:42:04,460 is to get as far away from this property as possible. 821 00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:09,060 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62397

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