Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:10,395 --> 00:00:13,697
Probably a lot of different deaths,
a lot of violent deaths.
2
00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:16,668
It just seems like it's
getting worse for everyone.
3
00:00:16,671 --> 00:00:19,071
He says, "Those [bleep] got to go."
4
00:00:19,074 --> 00:00:21,208
WYN: He shoots himself with the same rifle
5
00:00:21,211 --> 00:00:22,744
that killed his stepdaughter.
6
00:00:22,747 --> 00:00:24,330
That's a twist.
7
00:00:24,332 --> 00:00:27,116
Someone said, "That's the room of death."
8
00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:30,120
My son whispered, he says,
"That's a bad guy."
9
00:00:30,123 --> 00:00:31,889
Would you say they're a threat?
10
00:00:33,027 --> 00:00:37,697
Something wiped everybody out.
11
00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:40,367
"You're mine. You can't escape."
12
00:00:40,370 --> 00:00:42,771
My name is Amy Allan.
13
00:00:42,774 --> 00:00:45,675
[Crying] What's happening?
14
00:00:45,678 --> 00:00:46,777
I see dead people.
15
00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,213
It seems like a devil.
16
00:00:49,216 --> 00:00:50,916
I speak to dead people.
17
00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:52,584
He's pissed off.
18
00:00:52,587 --> 00:00:54,020
And they speak to me.
19
00:00:54,022 --> 00:00:55,655
I felt real fear.
20
00:00:55,658 --> 00:00:59,126
But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
21
00:00:59,129 --> 00:01:00,696
I think she's being murdered.
22
00:01:00,699 --> 00:01:02,020
I rely on my partner.
23
00:01:02,221 --> 00:01:03,838
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
24
00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,506
I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
25
00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:07,242
Serial killer pops in my head.
26
00:01:07,244 --> 00:01:10,812
And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
27
00:01:10,816 --> 00:01:12,015
Nobody believes me.
28
00:01:12,017 --> 00:01:13,450
It's my job to reveal them.
29
00:01:13,453 --> 00:01:15,753
- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
30
00:01:15,756 --> 00:01:17,489
But Steve and I never speak...
31
00:01:17,491 --> 00:01:19,525
We never communicate
during an investigation.
32
00:01:19,528 --> 00:01:20,727
...until the very end.
33
00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:22,396
You got problems. I got news for you.
34
00:01:22,398 --> 00:01:24,682
When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
35
00:01:24,685 --> 00:01:26,768
This is our house...
whether they like it or not.
36
00:01:26,771 --> 00:01:28,037
Or time to get out.
37
00:01:28,039 --> 00:01:31,107
This is their house, the house of the dead.
38
00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,240
- Sync and corrected by TheDelta -
- www.addic7ed.com -
39
00:01:48,217 --> 00:01:50,218
I'm in Sumpter, Oregon.
40
00:01:50,221 --> 00:01:53,222
It's a small mountain town about
two hours from Boise, Idaho.
41
00:01:53,225 --> 00:01:55,241
Now, we got called in by a couple
42
00:01:55,244 --> 00:01:57,995
that live and work in a B&B in town.
43
00:01:57,998 --> 00:02:00,348
They want to turn the
business over to their son,
44
00:02:00,350 --> 00:02:03,451
but the activity's gotten so
violent and physical lately,
45
00:02:03,455 --> 00:02:05,372
they don't know what to do,
and they're worried.
46
00:02:05,374 --> 00:02:07,624
They sound scared and
desperately want us to find
47
00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:09,961
a way to keep the B&B in the family.
48
00:02:19,059 --> 00:02:23,746
MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
I look for any leading information.
49
00:02:23,749 --> 00:02:26,467
Photographs, antiques, and personal items
50
00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:28,787
can influence her findings.
51
00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:32,959
So it's important I
cover or remove them all.
52
00:02:32,963 --> 00:02:36,230
When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
53
00:02:50,903 --> 00:02:55,890
There is a lot of physical pain here.
54
00:02:55,893 --> 00:02:59,028
My whole head hurts a lot,
55
00:02:59,032 --> 00:03:03,001
and there's a lot of dead people here.
56
00:03:05,139 --> 00:03:10,610
They all died horribly
and I would say violently.
57
00:03:18,724 --> 00:03:20,809
STEVE: Barb, I'm glad to be here.
58
00:03:20,812 --> 00:03:23,813
This is beautiful place,
but you got a problem here.
59
00:03:23,816 --> 00:03:25,816
Yeah. We love the place.
60
00:03:25,819 --> 00:03:28,603
We've had it for 17 years,
61
00:03:28,606 --> 00:03:31,607
and we've always had little things happen,
62
00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:33,193
but it just seems like
63
00:03:33,195 --> 00:03:36,713
it's getting worse for our guests,
for everyone.
64
00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,584
Now, Barb, as far as activity goes,
what are we talking about?
65
00:03:39,587 --> 00:03:41,838
We hear noises that we can't explain,
66
00:03:41,841 --> 00:03:44,658
things are moved,
67
00:03:44,661 --> 00:03:46,444
people feel sick.
68
00:03:46,446 --> 00:03:48,413
And now it's getting really physical.
69
00:03:48,416 --> 00:03:49,698
People are being touched.
70
00:03:49,701 --> 00:03:51,768
I'm just concerned, you know, because we...
71
00:03:51,770 --> 00:03:53,403
Like I say, it's our home first,
72
00:03:53,406 --> 00:03:55,223
and you want to be happy in your home.
73
00:03:55,226 --> 00:03:57,676
And then when we have people come in,
74
00:03:57,679 --> 00:04:00,864
we want to feel that they
are safe and secure here.
75
00:04:00,867 --> 00:04:04,285
What do you know about the
history of the building itself?
76
00:04:04,288 --> 00:04:08,774
That it opened in May of 1900
as Sumpter General Hospital.
77
00:04:08,778 --> 00:04:10,794
- So this was a hospital?
- Mm-hmm.
78
00:04:10,797 --> 00:04:11,796
That was what it was built for.
79
00:04:11,798 --> 00:04:13,047
Okay.
80
00:04:13,049 --> 00:04:15,166
You're looking to retire and
turn this over to your son,
81
00:04:15,169 --> 00:04:16,752
- is that right?
- Yeah, that was the idea.
82
00:04:19,842 --> 00:04:22,376
And he's got two little kids.
83
00:04:22,379 --> 00:04:24,113
I just...
84
00:04:24,116 --> 00:04:28,184
I want to make sure that
they're safe when they're here.
85
00:04:28,187 --> 00:04:30,621
- How attached are you to this place?
- I love it.
86
00:04:30,624 --> 00:04:32,791
I guess we just really thought,
87
00:04:32,794 --> 00:04:35,378
"Oh, that building just needs to be"...
88
00:04:39,018 --> 00:04:40,935
"Needs some love and attention."
89
00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:49,864
AMY: What the hell?
90
00:04:49,867 --> 00:04:52,417
There's quite a few dead women here.
91
00:04:54,556 --> 00:05:00,161
They seem to be from a while ago,
92
00:05:00,165 --> 00:05:06,235
maybe 1890...
93
00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,508
like 1905?
94
00:05:09,511 --> 00:05:13,880
One of the ladies is the representative
95
00:05:13,883 --> 00:05:18,619
and head honcho of these other four women.
96
00:05:22,628 --> 00:05:26,264
I don't know why they got stuck here.
97
00:05:26,267 --> 00:05:29,769
They didn't die all at the same time.
98
00:05:32,809 --> 00:05:34,677
There's a man.
99
00:05:34,679 --> 00:05:36,145
Mm.
100
00:05:36,148 --> 00:05:38,848
He doesn't look good. He's a little old man.
101
00:05:38,851 --> 00:05:42,053
He's mean. He is ornery.
102
00:05:42,056 --> 00:05:43,672
Ow.
103
00:05:43,675 --> 00:05:49,562
He definitely can make
physical contact with people.
104
00:05:49,566 --> 00:05:51,399
He's pinching and poking.
105
00:05:51,402 --> 00:05:53,469
[Grunts]
106
00:05:53,471 --> 00:05:55,037
I don't like him.
107
00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:01,213
STEVE: Okay, what's going on in here?
108
00:06:01,215 --> 00:06:03,616
We keep hearing loud bangs,
109
00:06:03,619 --> 00:06:06,736
like an encyclopedia,
heavy book being dropped flat
110
00:06:06,739 --> 00:06:07,955
on a wooden floor.
111
00:06:07,958 --> 00:06:09,374
And we'd get up. We were in bed.
112
00:06:09,376 --> 00:06:11,176
We'd get up, and we look all around.
113
00:06:11,179 --> 00:06:13,046
We don't see anything that made a noise.
114
00:06:13,049 --> 00:06:14,682
And what about guests?
115
00:06:14,684 --> 00:06:15,983
No, there were no guests.
116
00:06:15,986 --> 00:06:17,285
Well, this is a B&B.
117
00:06:17,287 --> 00:06:18,954
You sure nobody came in
to try to get a room?
118
00:06:18,957 --> 00:06:21,173
There wasn't anything.
I mean, we both looked.
119
00:06:21,176 --> 00:06:23,210
Anything else in this room?
120
00:06:23,213 --> 00:06:24,462
Yes. One day,
121
00:06:24,464 --> 00:06:26,314
these doors were propped
open like they are right now.
122
00:06:26,317 --> 00:06:27,483
Okay.
123
00:06:27,485 --> 00:06:31,503
I'm in the other room,
hear a noise, come out here,
124
00:06:31,507 --> 00:06:34,425
and this picture is lying facedown
125
00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:37,229
right here on the floor.
126
00:06:40,085 --> 00:06:42,636
It would have had to come
up and over and down.
127
00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:43,805
Okay, so when you...
128
00:06:43,807 --> 00:06:45,340
It was just a couple minutes before,
129
00:06:45,343 --> 00:06:47,310
you saw the doors like this.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
130
00:06:47,313 --> 00:06:48,645
And that picture was...
131
00:06:48,647 --> 00:06:50,514
Was lying facedown right there.
132
00:06:50,517 --> 00:06:52,967
Now, any guests?
133
00:06:52,970 --> 00:06:53,969
No guests.
134
00:06:53,971 --> 00:06:55,170
So nobody else was in the building?
135
00:06:55,173 --> 00:06:56,272
No one.
136
00:06:56,274 --> 00:06:58,325
I can't even figure out,
137
00:06:58,328 --> 00:07:00,911
unless it fell and came through here,
138
00:07:00,914 --> 00:07:03,265
but even that's pushing it.
139
00:07:03,268 --> 00:07:05,218
I can't even figure out how to debunk that.
140
00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:09,339
Now, have any guests had issues
with things moving on their own?
141
00:07:09,343 --> 00:07:11,976
A lot of guests have experienced that.
142
00:07:11,979 --> 00:07:14,146
Their glasses. Okay.
143
00:07:14,149 --> 00:07:15,599
Kick their shoes off here
144
00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:18,068
and find them over there the next morning.
145
00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:20,021
That's bizarre.
146
00:07:21,224 --> 00:07:25,728
The old man, he's tired of these women.
147
00:07:25,732 --> 00:07:29,717
He's trying to keep them out of the house,
148
00:07:29,721 --> 00:07:32,739
but it's not working,
149
00:07:32,742 --> 00:07:35,376
and I think he really hates the lead one.
150
00:07:35,379 --> 00:07:38,613
They've had fights,
151
00:07:38,616 --> 00:07:41,717
and it's affected their environment.
152
00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,855
Some objects moved or thrown.
153
00:07:44,858 --> 00:07:47,158
And, like, the electricity
154
00:07:47,161 --> 00:07:51,230
definitely was affected in those situations.
155
00:07:58,993 --> 00:08:00,244
I spoke with your wife.
156
00:08:00,246 --> 00:08:01,445
JAY: Mm-hmm.
157
00:08:01,448 --> 00:08:03,381
And she was telling me
about some of the things
158
00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:04,783
you got going on here.
159
00:08:04,786 --> 00:08:06,285
It seems like you got a bit of a problem.
160
00:08:06,287 --> 00:08:09,088
The increased activity in
the last couple of years,
161
00:08:09,091 --> 00:08:11,091
especially in the last few months,
162
00:08:11,094 --> 00:08:13,544
has given me some concern.
163
00:08:13,547 --> 00:08:14,797
Has it hurt business?
164
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,233
In recent months,
there have been three or four times
165
00:08:17,236 --> 00:08:18,869
where, in room six,
166
00:08:18,871 --> 00:08:20,037
somebody has sensed
167
00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,624
that somebody had crawled
into bed with them.
168
00:08:22,627 --> 00:08:26,679
And in one case, I had a young lady up there
169
00:08:26,682 --> 00:08:30,434
who said the next morning that,
whatever it was,
170
00:08:30,438 --> 00:08:33,072
was breathing in her ear,
and it startled her.
171
00:08:33,075 --> 00:08:35,692
She woke up, and she yelled.
172
00:08:35,695 --> 00:08:39,063
What if that had been
somebody that had a bad ticker
173
00:08:39,066 --> 00:08:42,034
and was fairly old, you know?
174
00:08:42,037 --> 00:08:44,320
What kind of experience are
you having in the house?
175
00:08:44,323 --> 00:08:47,208
Electrical problems drive me crazy.
176
00:08:47,211 --> 00:08:50,328
Lights going on and off by themselves,
177
00:08:50,331 --> 00:08:52,515
timers going off.
178
00:08:52,518 --> 00:08:53,934
What about the wiring?
179
00:08:53,936 --> 00:08:55,819
Wiring's all brand-new.
180
00:08:55,822 --> 00:08:57,722
Have you seen anything else,
heard anything else?
181
00:08:57,725 --> 00:08:58,858
Yeah.
182
00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:01,277
A friend of mine and I
were here in the kitchen,
183
00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,463
and looking up here...
184
00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:06,367
and I can only see it from the knees down...
185
00:09:06,370 --> 00:09:09,371
something or someone came down the stairs.
186
00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:11,374
There wasn't anybody in here,
187
00:09:11,377 --> 00:09:13,828
and the back door was locked upstairs.
188
00:09:13,831 --> 00:09:16,181
Okay, so you guys go up there
and check it out, though?
189
00:09:16,184 --> 00:09:17,817
- Yeah.
- Nothing.
190
00:09:17,819 --> 00:09:19,919
There's nobody there.
191
00:09:19,922 --> 00:09:21,455
Amy once in a while will tell people this...
192
00:09:21,458 --> 00:09:23,324
"You got a serious problem
that's gonna get a lot worse.
193
00:09:23,326 --> 00:09:24,859
You need to get the hell out of here."
194
00:09:24,862 --> 00:09:27,796
What would you think if you heard that?
195
00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:30,550
Blood, sweat, and tears for 17 years
196
00:09:30,553 --> 00:09:32,436
have gone into this place.
197
00:09:32,439 --> 00:09:37,192
Yeah, so it would be really
hard to just walk away from it.
198
00:09:37,196 --> 00:09:38,829
Okay.
199
00:09:38,831 --> 00:09:42,132
MATTHEW: Can the living see this angry man?
200
00:09:42,136 --> 00:09:45,054
Yes, and he looks creepy.
201
00:09:45,057 --> 00:09:47,224
His face is a horrible mess.
202
00:09:47,226 --> 00:09:50,644
It's like if he took ash
203
00:09:50,648 --> 00:09:53,782
and was trying to re-create his face.
204
00:09:53,785 --> 00:09:56,236
Ohh, I feel dizzy.
205
00:09:56,239 --> 00:09:58,239
I don't feel good.
206
00:09:58,242 --> 00:10:00,909
He's hurting living people.
207
00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:29,510
STEVE: So, Brian,
I was taing to your mom and dad,
208
00:10:29,512 --> 00:10:31,061
and your mom was expressing concerns
209
00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:33,281
about your kids being here.
210
00:10:33,284 --> 00:10:36,235
Do you have the same concerns?
211
00:10:36,238 --> 00:10:40,290
My son comes here,
and he's seeing imaginary people,
212
00:10:40,294 --> 00:10:42,156
and he doesn't see them at my house.
213
00:10:42,256 --> 00:10:44,172
He even refers to them as "the bad people."
214
00:10:44,175 --> 00:10:46,375
Putting him down for a nap,
215
00:10:46,378 --> 00:10:47,861
and he points over at
the chair in the corner,
216
00:10:47,863 --> 00:10:53,717
and in a very different voice,
he says, "That's a bad guy."
217
00:10:53,722 --> 00:10:56,790
Needless to say, it was just ominous.
218
00:10:56,793 --> 00:10:58,659
So what about you as far as experiences go?
219
00:10:58,661 --> 00:11:00,111
I have had one.
220
00:11:00,114 --> 00:11:04,266
I was in my room,
and the bed that I'm on started shaking.
221
00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:07,271
I actually thought, "Oh, earthquake?"
222
00:11:07,274 --> 00:11:09,474
Jumped off the bed, looked, still shaking,
223
00:11:09,477 --> 00:11:12,178
and nothing else in the house was moving.
224
00:11:12,181 --> 00:11:14,581
Well,
how big of a shake are we talking about?
225
00:11:14,583 --> 00:11:18,168
I was getting moved,
so it was like, you know, moving.
226
00:11:18,172 --> 00:11:19,688
- That hard?
- Yeah, yeah.
227
00:11:19,690 --> 00:11:21,624
So, I know your mom's got cats.
228
00:11:21,627 --> 00:11:24,478
I literally looked to see if there was,
like, a cat that crawled up underneath,
229
00:11:24,481 --> 00:11:26,164
and there isn't even a space under there,
230
00:11:26,167 --> 00:11:27,282
so it's not possible.
231
00:11:28,819 --> 00:11:31,838
I don't want it around.
I don't want my kids around it.
232
00:11:31,841 --> 00:11:34,208
I don't want to have to
talk about that with them.
233
00:11:39,417 --> 00:11:42,920
AMY: I don't like it in here.
234
00:11:47,261 --> 00:11:51,865
These women come in here,
and they're all dressed in black.
235
00:11:51,868 --> 00:11:54,435
I don't like them back here.
236
00:11:54,438 --> 00:11:58,273
They're not the same as
when they're downstairs.
237
00:11:58,277 --> 00:12:01,779
These women are creepy, man.
238
00:12:04,284 --> 00:12:07,119
This could be what the old
man was talking about...
239
00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:09,738
_
240
00:12:09,959 --> 00:12:16,297
But I think him trying
to get rid of these women
241
00:12:16,302 --> 00:12:21,005
might ultimately not be such a bad thing.
242
00:12:21,008 --> 00:12:24,643
He very much has the attitude of,
243
00:12:24,647 --> 00:12:26,880
"This is my house." You know what I mean?
244
00:12:26,883 --> 00:12:28,750
"And those [bleep] got to go."
245
00:12:37,464 --> 00:12:39,098
STEVE: Kari, I understand
246
00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:40,966
you're actually staying in the
hotel tonight in this room.
247
00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:42,168
I am.
248
00:12:42,170 --> 00:12:44,304
Okay, is this the first
time you're staying here?
249
00:12:44,307 --> 00:12:46,574
No, I've stayed here two other times.
250
00:12:46,577 --> 00:12:48,243
Kari, have you had any experiences
251
00:12:48,246 --> 00:12:49,279
while you've been here?
252
00:12:49,281 --> 00:12:52,849
I've seen a woman about three times.
253
00:12:52,852 --> 00:12:57,221
The first night I stayed here,
I woke up, and there was a woman.
254
00:12:57,225 --> 00:13:02,178
To me, she just looked like a
black figure walking around.
255
00:13:02,182 --> 00:13:05,216
So I fell back to sleep,
256
00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:07,403
and I woke up to turn over on my bed,
257
00:13:07,406 --> 00:13:09,472
and there was that same dark figure
258
00:13:09,475 --> 00:13:11,776
actually sitting on the side of this bed
259
00:13:11,779 --> 00:13:16,256
and looking into the mirror
and brushing her hair.
260
00:13:16,357 --> 00:13:18,691
Were you boozing that night?
Were you drinking?
261
00:13:18,694 --> 00:13:19,094
No.
262
00:13:19,095 --> 00:13:21,879
Okay, so you said you saw her three times.
263
00:13:21,882 --> 00:13:23,932
When was the third?
264
00:13:23,935 --> 00:13:25,301
The third was actually last night
265
00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:26,470
when I stayed in this room.
266
00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:28,672
- Last night?
- Yeah.
267
00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:30,542
I was looking up towards the wall,
268
00:13:30,545 --> 00:13:33,979
and the next thing you know,
there's a skeleton face.
269
00:13:33,982 --> 00:13:35,315
You're just frozen.
270
00:13:35,317 --> 00:13:39,152
You don't know what to say,
or you can't scream.
271
00:13:39,156 --> 00:13:41,306
You can't do anything.
272
00:13:41,309 --> 00:13:43,143
Why do you come back?
273
00:13:43,145 --> 00:13:44,911
It brings up curiosity.
274
00:13:44,914 --> 00:13:49,100
You want to come here and see
if anything's gonna happen.
275
00:13:49,104 --> 00:13:52,505
I doubt that anything is gonna happen to me.
276
00:13:54,910 --> 00:14:01,249
They've been busted in
this room, the ladies...
277
00:14:01,253 --> 00:14:05,589
Like, somebody waking up in here
278
00:14:05,593 --> 00:14:10,662
and catching them doing [bleep] to the,
you know, person.
279
00:14:10,666 --> 00:14:15,903
'Cause I keep seeing this
one thing over and over again.
280
00:14:15,907 --> 00:14:18,107
Like, them surrounding the
bed with the people in it.
281
00:14:18,110 --> 00:14:20,894
And they would definitely have that feeling
282
00:14:20,897 --> 00:14:23,915
of, like, they couldn't move,
they couldn't talk,
283
00:14:23,918 --> 00:14:27,837
they can't breathe.
284
00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:32,860
So it sounds like you're experiencing a lot.
285
00:14:32,863 --> 00:14:34,630
I mean, anything else happening?
286
00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:37,300
Since I got in this house,
I just felt drained.
287
00:14:37,303 --> 00:14:38,552
I got, like, physically ill.
288
00:14:38,554 --> 00:14:40,354
Describe what you mean by ill.
289
00:14:40,357 --> 00:14:43,742
Like, you felt like you were
just about ready to throw up.
290
00:14:43,745 --> 00:14:47,730
When I got into his room, I just felt tired.
291
00:14:47,734 --> 00:14:50,151
I felt like I had just been drugged.
292
00:14:50,154 --> 00:14:53,105
You can hardly breathe
when you get into here.
293
00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,745
And the women are definitely
294
00:14:57,748 --> 00:15:00,832
feeding off of any living people around.
295
00:15:00,835 --> 00:15:04,704
They move through, like, in a pack,
296
00:15:04,707 --> 00:15:07,474
and then they just kind of feed.
297
00:15:10,447 --> 00:15:15,751
They're definitely taking
energy away from living people.
298
00:15:15,755 --> 00:15:18,089
MATTHEW: How would that affect the living?
299
00:15:18,092 --> 00:15:24,830
If the person woke up while
the ladies were doing it,
300
00:15:24,835 --> 00:15:31,406
then they would feel like
they couldn't move and stuff.
301
00:15:31,410 --> 00:15:36,247
But if they don't,
then they would feel really awful.
302
00:15:36,251 --> 00:15:37,833
Would you say they're a threat?
303
00:15:37,836 --> 00:15:39,286
Mm-hmm.
304
00:15:39,288 --> 00:15:42,239
If you were exposed to this consistently,
305
00:15:42,242 --> 00:15:44,926
you'd probably have a heart attack
306
00:15:44,929 --> 00:15:47,179
or develop severe issues.
307
00:16:03,907 --> 00:16:05,474
STEVE: This is a small town.
308
00:16:05,476 --> 00:16:07,810
It only has a couple
hundred people living in it,
309
00:16:07,813 --> 00:16:10,480
so it didn't take me long to
track down a local historian.
310
00:16:10,483 --> 00:16:13,250
She tells me that Jay and Barb's B&B
311
00:16:13,253 --> 00:16:15,504
has a long and dramatic history.
312
00:16:23,834 --> 00:16:27,169
So, you had mentioned that the
building I'm investigating,
313
00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:29,573
that's now a B&B, had a dramatic history.
314
00:16:29,576 --> 00:16:30,842
Yes, it has.
315
00:16:30,845 --> 00:16:33,445
And my client thinks it
opened up as a hospital.
316
00:16:33,448 --> 00:16:34,814
- Is that correct?
- Correct.
317
00:16:34,816 --> 00:16:37,684
JB Stoddard, and there's a picture of him,
318
00:16:37,687 --> 00:16:41,238
he and his wife, Esther,
bought the property in 1899,
319
00:16:41,242 --> 00:16:45,494
and then they built a hospital,
and it opened in June of 1900.
320
00:16:45,497 --> 00:16:49,566
And it operated as a hospital until 1917.
321
00:16:49,570 --> 00:16:51,287
Now, do you know anything about this guy?
322
00:16:51,387 --> 00:16:53,854
He was definitely a very smart businessman.
323
00:16:53,857 --> 00:16:55,474
He was born in Utah,
324
00:16:55,477 --> 00:16:59,662
and he and his family were
in the lumber industry there,
325
00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:01,316
and he came here, started a mill.
326
00:17:01,318 --> 00:17:03,752
Most of the buildings in Sumpter
327
00:17:03,755 --> 00:17:05,454
were built with lumber from his mills.
328
00:17:05,457 --> 00:17:09,526
Now, did he own the hospital
the entire time it was open?
329
00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:12,113
No, he sold out in 1903.
330
00:17:12,116 --> 00:17:14,900
He sold to a couple of the
doctors who worked there.
331
00:17:14,903 --> 00:17:17,771
Okay. All right.
332
00:17:17,774 --> 00:17:19,223
Now, what eventually happened to him?
333
00:17:19,226 --> 00:17:21,793
He passed away in 1925.
334
00:17:21,796 --> 00:17:24,564
There's a copy of his death certificate.
335
00:17:26,936 --> 00:17:29,788
He died of dementia. He was 68.
336
00:17:32,643 --> 00:17:37,364
AMY: This grumpy old man confuses me.
337
00:17:37,368 --> 00:17:40,569
I think he owned this at one point.
338
00:17:40,572 --> 00:17:43,072
MATTHEW: Do you get an age for him?
339
00:17:43,075 --> 00:17:48,078
He's... Gosh, like 70s.
340
00:17:48,082 --> 00:17:52,919
Doesn't look like he died very well.
341
00:17:52,923 --> 00:17:56,291
Skin and bone.
342
00:17:56,294 --> 00:17:59,128
Definitely mentally unsound.
343
00:17:59,131 --> 00:18:02,632
He's very frail.
344
00:18:02,635 --> 00:18:10,508
Maybe he has Alzheimer's or something.
345
00:18:12,348 --> 00:18:14,282
You blink, you go through this town.
346
00:18:14,285 --> 00:18:16,252
Why would they build a hospital here?
347
00:18:16,254 --> 00:18:18,688
At that time, this was quite a metropolis.
348
00:18:18,691 --> 00:18:20,858
There were about 4,500 people here.
349
00:18:20,861 --> 00:18:22,811
Really?
350
00:18:22,814 --> 00:18:25,831
Here's a picture that
shows Sumpter at its peak.
351
00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:30,136
It shows the wood streets,
the Capital Hotel.
352
00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,474
Then going up the street, that's the school.
353
00:18:32,477 --> 00:18:34,177
Okay, this white building here?
354
00:18:34,179 --> 00:18:35,461
Right.
355
00:18:35,464 --> 00:18:37,481
And then next to it is what
was the hospital at that time.
356
00:18:37,483 --> 00:18:40,184
We had all kinds of miners
357
00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:42,137
and then all the supporting industries
358
00:18:42,140 --> 00:18:43,389
that go along with that.
359
00:18:43,392 --> 00:18:45,425
Okay, now,
what kind of mines we talking about?
360
00:18:45,427 --> 00:18:46,593
- Gold mines.
- Gold.
361
00:18:46,596 --> 00:18:48,663
Yes, so there were cave-ins,
362
00:18:48,666 --> 00:18:50,883
crushing injuries, and those kinds of things
363
00:18:50,885 --> 00:18:53,435
where a hospital was definitely needed.
364
00:18:53,438 --> 00:18:56,473
Now, did the townspeople use the hospital,
as well?
365
00:18:56,477 --> 00:18:57,643
Yes, they did.
366
00:18:57,645 --> 00:19:00,279
There were people that had
all kinds of injuries...
367
00:19:00,282 --> 00:19:03,116
burns from house fires, horseback injuries,
368
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,086
flu epidemics, moms having babies.
369
00:19:06,089 --> 00:19:07,822
So that hospital covered everything?
370
00:19:07,825 --> 00:19:09,725
Absolutely.
371
00:19:12,464 --> 00:19:16,334
Oh, God, the head pain is ridiculous.
372
00:19:16,337 --> 00:19:18,721
Ridiculous, ridiculous.
373
00:19:18,724 --> 00:19:20,907
[Whimpers]
374
00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:22,443
Do you know what it's from?
375
00:19:22,445 --> 00:19:27,148
Well, people being hit in the head.
376
00:19:30,155 --> 00:19:31,922
[Groans]
377
00:19:31,925 --> 00:19:34,025
I don't know what's happening.
378
00:19:34,028 --> 00:19:38,731
There's been a lot of loss here, you know...
379
00:19:38,735 --> 00:19:41,753
women having miscarriages.
380
00:19:43,873 --> 00:19:45,307
Uh...
381
00:19:45,310 --> 00:19:46,710
What?
382
00:19:48,447 --> 00:19:52,283
There's a big old blood stain on the floor.
383
00:19:52,287 --> 00:19:54,954
I can't make it go away.
384
00:19:54,957 --> 00:19:56,323
How large is it?
385
00:19:56,325 --> 00:19:59,076
It's pretty [bleep] Somebody bled out.
386
00:20:00,881 --> 00:20:04,467
Quite a lot of people,
quite a lot of different deaths,
387
00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,336
a lot of violent deaths.
388
00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:08,873
Who the [bleep] knows what happened there,
389
00:20:08,876 --> 00:20:12,244
but there is something there.
390
00:20:12,247 --> 00:20:15,382
[Groans]
391
00:20:19,523 --> 00:20:25,278
There's someone throwing up a lot, crying,
392
00:20:25,282 --> 00:20:28,416
and they're dying 'cause they're sick.
393
00:20:28,419 --> 00:20:31,037
[Sighs] [Bleep]
394
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,140
Ow.
395
00:20:34,744 --> 00:20:38,647
STEVE: You said the hospital
closed down in 1917. Why?
396
00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:41,301
There was a fire in August of 1917
397
00:20:41,304 --> 00:20:45,289
that destroyed nearly all of
the business area in Sumpter.
398
00:20:47,394 --> 00:20:49,629
Wow.
399
00:20:49,632 --> 00:20:53,917
I'd say 99.9% of the businesses
and quite a few residences
400
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,805
were destroyed.
401
00:20:55,808 --> 00:21:00,477
And then this shows the
destruction after the fire.
402
00:21:01,948 --> 00:21:03,782
Wow.
403
00:21:03,785 --> 00:21:06,820
Those were two of the
bigger buildings in town,
404
00:21:06,823 --> 00:21:09,240
and it just totally destroyed them.
405
00:21:09,243 --> 00:21:11,176
Did the B&B I'm investigating get hit?
406
00:21:11,178 --> 00:21:12,177
No, it didn't.
407
00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:14,363
It was right on the edge of the fire.
408
00:21:14,366 --> 00:21:16,316
Now, do we know how it started?
409
00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,368
It started at the Capital Hotel,
410
00:21:18,371 --> 00:21:21,406
and the it spread quickly
'cause of the wood streets.
411
00:21:21,409 --> 00:21:23,142
Oh, geez.
412
00:21:23,145 --> 00:21:24,878
Did people die in this fire?
413
00:21:24,881 --> 00:21:27,298
There is one article that speaks to the fact
414
00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:30,051
that two miners were killed.
415
00:21:32,373 --> 00:21:36,092
Okay, so the fire happens in 1917,
416
00:21:36,096 --> 00:21:38,964
and it stops being a hospital,
so what happens after that?
417
00:21:38,967 --> 00:21:43,269
It became the Masonic
Hall in 1918 until 1973.
418
00:21:43,272 --> 00:21:45,773
After the fire, the town never recovered.
419
00:22:02,598 --> 00:22:07,702
It's really strange because I...
I see it more crowded.
420
00:22:07,706 --> 00:22:10,941
It looks different.
421
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:23,790
Like I'm actually seeing more of a town,
I guess.
422
00:22:24,862 --> 00:22:26,696
Okay.
423
00:22:26,699 --> 00:22:30,584
There's like a wooden, like,
sidewalk or something.
424
00:22:30,587 --> 00:22:33,438
Like, they're just kind of showing me,
425
00:22:33,441 --> 00:22:35,441
like, things were good,
426
00:22:35,444 --> 00:22:39,279
and then, uh...
427
00:22:39,283 --> 00:22:43,385
a few things happened to stop that.
428
00:22:43,388 --> 00:22:45,422
What do you mean?
429
00:22:45,425 --> 00:22:48,359
Something wiped everybody out.
430
00:23:05,908 --> 00:23:08,477
STEVE: So far, I've got a town
that was nearly wiped out by a fire
431
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,583
and a property that was once a hospital
432
00:23:10,683 --> 00:23:12,232
where countless people died,
433
00:23:12,235 --> 00:23:14,169
but I need to see if there's anything else.
434
00:23:15,922 --> 00:23:17,056
Searching through the archives,
435
00:23:17,059 --> 00:23:18,925
I discovered the hospital's first patient
436
00:23:18,928 --> 00:23:20,828
is a miner named Fred Kane.
437
00:23:21,798 --> 00:23:25,384
Turns out, he went crazy and
brutally murdered a 4-year-old
438
00:23:25,387 --> 00:23:27,704
before turning the gun on himself.
439
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:33,578
Obviously, I want to know
more about this case,
440
00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:35,615
so I've called a local police chief,
441
00:23:35,618 --> 00:23:37,751
and he agreed to look into it for me.
442
00:23:41,191 --> 00:23:43,225
Well, Chief Lohner, thanks for meeting me.
443
00:23:43,228 --> 00:23:44,661
I appreciate that.
444
00:23:44,663 --> 00:23:46,129
The Fred Kane murder case,
445
00:23:46,132 --> 00:23:48,333
you were able to look into it for me.
446
00:23:48,336 --> 00:23:49,217
What were you able to find out?
447
00:23:49,317 --> 00:23:51,684
I found that Fred Kane,
he was a miner up in the Sumpter area.
448
00:23:51,687 --> 00:23:53,921
He actually had went to that hospital
449
00:23:53,924 --> 00:23:57,892
that you're investigating
back on June 12th of 1900.
450
00:23:57,895 --> 00:23:59,428
He was actually the first
patient of the hospital
451
00:23:59,431 --> 00:24:03,466
after being kicked by a horse
up at the Montezuma Mine.
452
00:24:04,787 --> 00:24:06,872
So, this is before the murder.
453
00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:08,074
It is.
454
00:24:08,076 --> 00:24:10,443
A few months later, on September 19th,
455
00:24:10,446 --> 00:24:11,612
up at the family cabin
456
00:24:11,614 --> 00:24:13,814
where Fred Kane lived with his wife, Naomi,
457
00:24:13,817 --> 00:24:16,117
and her 4-year-old daughter,
his stepdaughter,
458
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,087
a young gal by the name of Ruth Toney,
459
00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:22,042
Fred... He took his Winchester
rifle and left the residence.
460
00:24:22,045 --> 00:24:24,062
And when Fred came back into the cabin,
461
00:24:24,065 --> 00:24:26,165
he fired a round from his Winchester,
462
00:24:26,168 --> 00:24:28,668
and that actually shot through Ruth
463
00:24:28,671 --> 00:24:31,339
and entered the body of Naomi at the time.
464
00:24:31,342 --> 00:24:36,595
The child is dead instantly by
every report that we could find.
465
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:39,205
- Okay, what happens next?
- Fred picked up a club,
466
00:24:39,207 --> 00:24:41,290
and he started beating Naomi with the club,
467
00:24:41,293 --> 00:24:43,397
and then, all of a sudden,
he stopped beating her,
468
00:24:43,497 --> 00:24:44,891
and he looked at her, and he said,
469
00:24:44,992 --> 00:24:46,825
"You got blood on your dress."
470
00:24:46,828 --> 00:24:48,495
So this guy's a whack job.
471
00:24:48,497 --> 00:24:50,822
You know, see, there had been no
indication of any mental illness
472
00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:53,011
with Fred Kane prior to this occurrence,
473
00:24:53,112 --> 00:24:56,046
but he obviously was suffering
from some type of mental delusion
474
00:24:56,049 --> 00:24:58,049
at the time if you believe Naomi's accounts.
475
00:24:58,052 --> 00:24:59,585
Now, what does she do?
476
00:24:59,587 --> 00:25:01,587
She told him that there
had been another assailant
477
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:03,490
in the residence that had shot her
478
00:25:03,493 --> 00:25:05,326
and that's where the blood came from,
479
00:25:05,329 --> 00:25:07,630
and she said he just ran out into the woods.
480
00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:09,310
And so Fred took off out the door.
481
00:25:09,410 --> 00:25:11,410
She then fled the cabin
as soon as he was gone,
482
00:25:11,413 --> 00:25:13,580
and she went to a nearby
cabin where she was located
483
00:25:13,583 --> 00:25:15,383
by two workers that had been in the area.
484
00:25:15,385 --> 00:25:17,886
He came back to the residence,
saw Naomi was gone,
485
00:25:17,889 --> 00:25:19,755
saw the child lifeless on the floor,
486
00:25:19,758 --> 00:25:21,391
and he set the cabin on fire.
487
00:25:21,394 --> 00:25:23,644
And in the meantime,
488
00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,764
he takes off and runs
to his brother's cabin,
489
00:25:25,766 --> 00:25:27,516
which is just a short distance away,
490
00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,153
lights it on fire,
491
00:25:30,156 --> 00:25:32,306
and the report indicates
that he shoots himself
492
00:25:32,309 --> 00:25:34,075
with the same rifle that
killed his stepdaughter.
493
00:25:34,078 --> 00:25:35,378
Geez.
494
00:25:35,380 --> 00:25:38,414
He shoots himself in the chest,
but he actually survives.
495
00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:41,151
He ultimately ended up at
Sumpter General Hospital
496
00:25:41,154 --> 00:25:42,353
just two hours later
497
00:25:42,356 --> 00:25:45,057
after Naomi had been admitted
to the same hospital.
498
00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:50,063
Okay, so both of them wind up in
the location I'm investigating
499
00:25:50,067 --> 00:25:52,267
but when it was a hospital?
500
00:25:52,269 --> 00:25:54,002
Correct. Both with gunshot wounds.
501
00:25:54,005 --> 00:25:57,907
Fred ultimately died of his
injuries on October 10th.
502
00:25:57,910 --> 00:25:59,860
Okay, now, what happens to Naomi?
503
00:25:59,863 --> 00:26:02,080
She ultimately was
released from the hospital,
504
00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:04,333
and she ended up up in Portland,
505
00:26:04,336 --> 00:26:06,954
where she actually died
exactly six years to the day
506
00:26:06,957 --> 00:26:08,206
of the original shooting.
507
00:26:08,208 --> 00:26:11,092
She died on September 19, 1906.
508
00:26:11,095 --> 00:26:12,962
She was 35 years old at the time.
509
00:26:12,965 --> 00:26:15,298
Kind of the irony on this, with the theory
510
00:26:15,301 --> 00:26:18,669
that Fred was insane at
the time of the shooting,
511
00:26:18,672 --> 00:26:22,341
was that she died by what
the medical examiners report,
512
00:26:22,345 --> 00:26:25,312
the death certificate states
is a general collapse,
513
00:26:25,315 --> 00:26:28,233
the contributing factor being insanity.
514
00:26:28,236 --> 00:26:29,652
You're kidding me.
515
00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:31,237
No.
516
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,656
Well, that's a twist.
517
00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:43,369
AMY: There's a couple of the
women who are extremely depressed.
518
00:26:43,374 --> 00:26:48,210
Like, if they were still alive,
they would be suicidal,
519
00:26:48,213 --> 00:26:52,248
you know, that's how depressed they are.
520
00:26:52,252 --> 00:26:56,087
One of them lost her whole family,
521
00:26:56,090 --> 00:27:01,093
and she still feels that,
like, it happened that day.
522
00:27:01,097 --> 00:27:08,736
She can't move beyond that loss.
523
00:27:16,618 --> 00:27:19,887
I encountered several
dead people on my walk.
524
00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:23,375
But the woman surrounding
a man asleep in his bed
525
00:27:23,379 --> 00:27:25,545
had me the most concerned.
526
00:27:25,548 --> 00:27:30,968
There's about five women who
are at the foot of the bed
527
00:27:30,972 --> 00:27:33,573
staring at this man.
528
00:27:33,576 --> 00:27:37,812
And at the center is a dominant female.
529
00:27:37,815 --> 00:27:42,984
She has dark brown hair, dark brown eyes,
530
00:27:42,988 --> 00:27:45,723
thin, arched eyebrows.
531
00:27:45,726 --> 00:27:52,664
She has a high-collared,
black, very plain dress on.
532
00:27:55,071 --> 00:27:56,121
Is this what you saw?
533
00:27:56,123 --> 00:27:59,375
Yes, that's what I saw.
534
00:28:22,638 --> 00:28:25,340
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
535
00:28:25,343 --> 00:28:27,476
we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other
536
00:28:27,479 --> 00:28:29,863
and our clients for the first time.
537
00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:34,419
Amy, I'd like you to meet Barb and Jay.
538
00:28:34,423 --> 00:28:35,662
They're a married couple,
539
00:28:35,762 --> 00:28:39,130
and they live and run this place
as a B&B for the last 17 years.
540
00:28:39,133 --> 00:28:41,801
They've always had activity,
541
00:28:41,804 --> 00:28:45,088
but recently, it's gotten out of control.
542
00:28:45,092 --> 00:28:48,444
They're looking to pass
this on to their son,
543
00:28:48,447 --> 00:28:49,913
who has two beautiful children.
544
00:28:49,915 --> 00:28:52,282
AMY: Oh.
545
00:28:52,285 --> 00:28:54,452
The problem is, they're really not sure
546
00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:57,055
if it's safe to keep this
business in the family.
547
00:28:57,058 --> 00:29:01,110
Now that Amy knows a little
bit about what's going on here,
548
00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:03,498
she's gonna tell us about her walk.
549
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:08,136
This was a really difficult walk for me,
550
00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:10,974
feeling, you know, really physically ill.
551
00:29:10,977 --> 00:29:13,544
Actually up there... top-10 worst.
552
00:29:13,547 --> 00:29:15,047
Wow.
553
00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:18,318
There's a lot of sickness here.
554
00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:23,824
As soon as I got out of the car,
it was like chaos ensued,
555
00:29:23,958 --> 00:29:28,628
and a lot of, you know,
dead people were freaking out.
556
00:29:28,632 --> 00:29:34,402
A lot of them that I encountered
outside had died horribly.
557
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:38,208
Necks were broken,
heads were just bashed in.
558
00:29:38,212 --> 00:29:43,315
And the head and the neck pain
that I felt out there from them
559
00:29:43,318 --> 00:29:46,686
continued all throughout the walk.
560
00:29:46,690 --> 00:29:51,693
And then I went upstairs
and saw a lot of sickness.
561
00:29:51,697 --> 00:29:55,065
I saw a woman who had a miscarriage,
562
00:29:55,068 --> 00:29:59,270
a huge bloodstain on the floor,
563
00:29:59,273 --> 00:30:01,590
and then another woman
in one of the bedrooms
564
00:30:01,593 --> 00:30:02,926
who seemed to be very ill.
565
00:30:02,929 --> 00:30:06,230
Like, sweat and vomiting and all of that.
566
00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:10,185
You know, that's an easyone to answer.
567
00:30:10,189 --> 00:30:12,840
This building was built in 1900
but not as a bed-and-breakfast.
568
00:30:12,843 --> 00:30:14,059
It was built as a hospital.
569
00:30:14,061 --> 00:30:15,593
- What?
- Yeah.
570
00:30:15,596 --> 00:30:17,430
Oh, my gosh. Oh.
571
00:30:17,432 --> 00:30:22,585
The thing was,
it operated as a hospital from 1900 to 1917.
572
00:30:22,589 --> 00:30:25,740
Back in that time,
there was 4,500 people living here.
573
00:30:25,743 --> 00:30:26,809
Okay, okay.
574
00:30:26,812 --> 00:30:28,011
This was a mining town.
575
00:30:28,013 --> 00:30:29,846
When you talked about head injuries
576
00:30:29,849 --> 00:30:31,265
and all this other stuff.
577
00:30:31,268 --> 00:30:35,821
So these guys were killed by cave-ins,
explosions.
578
00:30:35,824 --> 00:30:38,191
I got a stack of articles
579
00:30:38,194 --> 00:30:40,060
talking about all these
injuries that happened here,
580
00:30:40,063 --> 00:30:42,230
and they were all brought to this hospital.
581
00:30:42,233 --> 00:30:45,067
Matter of fact,
this was the hospital for the whole town.
582
00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:48,305
Oh, that makes sense.
583
00:30:48,308 --> 00:30:51,626
A mining town would explain
probably the physical injuries.
584
00:30:51,629 --> 00:30:55,597
And this being used as a
hospital explains the illness.
585
00:30:56,918 --> 00:30:59,070
So, what else did you get?
586
00:30:59,073 --> 00:31:01,189
There are about five or six women.
587
00:31:01,192 --> 00:31:03,159
They kind of travel as a pack.
588
00:31:03,162 --> 00:31:06,196
They're definitely from around 1890, 1905.
589
00:31:06,199 --> 00:31:09,300
One of the women was all dressed in black
590
00:31:09,303 --> 00:31:10,870
and seemed to be mourning.
591
00:31:10,872 --> 00:31:14,407
She definitely seems to be
the leader of the group.
592
00:31:14,411 --> 00:31:18,663
They all died at different
times from various illnesses.
593
00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:21,033
Does that make sense
'cause it was a hospital here?
594
00:31:21,036 --> 00:31:22,368
Well, now it does, yeah.
595
00:31:22,371 --> 00:31:24,221
Let me ask you a question
about the women that are here.
596
00:31:24,224 --> 00:31:25,490
Do you think they can be seen?
597
00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:29,294
I definitely think that the
main lady presents herself.
598
00:31:29,297 --> 00:31:31,998
Jay, tell her what you saw that day.
599
00:31:32,985 --> 00:31:35,403
Well, I was in the kitchen,
and out of the corner of my eye,
600
00:31:35,406 --> 00:31:38,174
glanced up here on that staircase,
601
00:31:38,177 --> 00:31:41,011
and something came down,
602
00:31:41,014 --> 00:31:44,582
and I could see its legs
from maybe the knees down.
603
00:31:44,585 --> 00:31:46,151
What did the legs look like?
604
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,520
Shadows.
605
00:31:47,522 --> 00:31:49,139
Mm-hmm, okay.
606
00:31:49,142 --> 00:31:51,659
There were two women from this group
607
00:31:51,662 --> 00:31:54,763
that were extremely depressed.
608
00:31:54,766 --> 00:31:57,850
The living would probably
feel this depression
609
00:31:57,853 --> 00:32:00,103
because it's so thick.
610
00:32:00,106 --> 00:32:03,308
One of the women lost
her whole family at once,
611
00:32:03,311 --> 00:32:06,812
and she can't get over it.
612
00:32:06,816 --> 00:32:12,854
She seems hopeless and lost,
crying all the time,
613
00:32:12,858 --> 00:32:15,558
suicidal, even though she's dead.
614
00:32:15,561 --> 00:32:18,579
She lost her entire family in one day?
615
00:32:18,582 --> 00:32:19,714
Yeah.
616
00:32:19,716 --> 00:32:21,399
Now, there's one woman that comes to mind
617
00:32:21,402 --> 00:32:23,152
that ended up here when it was a hospital
618
00:32:23,155 --> 00:32:24,738
that had a very traumatic experience.
619
00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:28,141
Her name was Naomi Kane,
and her husband, Fred Kane,
620
00:32:28,145 --> 00:32:31,146
was actually the first
patient in this hospital
621
00:32:31,149 --> 00:32:33,383
when he got kicked by a horse.
622
00:32:33,386 --> 00:32:36,087
Now, on September 19th that same year,
623
00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:38,490
Naomi was holding her 4-year-old daughter
624
00:32:38,493 --> 00:32:40,860
from a previous marriage in her arms.
625
00:32:40,862 --> 00:32:44,163
Fred came into the house with
a rifle and shot at them.
626
00:32:45,201 --> 00:32:48,803
The bullet went through the baby,
killed her,
627
00:32:48,806 --> 00:32:51,474
and then went into Naomi.
628
00:32:51,477 --> 00:32:55,095
Somehow she escapes and gets
taken to the hospital here.
629
00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:56,699
Fred, in the meantime,
630
00:32:56,701 --> 00:33:00,085
lights the house that they lived
in on fire and shoots himself,
631
00:33:00,089 --> 00:33:02,173
but he survived.
632
00:33:02,175 --> 00:33:03,758
Somebody found him,
633
00:33:03,761 --> 00:33:05,627
and they brought him to this hospital,
as well.
634
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:07,997
He wound up dying about three weeks later.
635
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,354
Six years to the day after the shooting,
636
00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:15,408
she dies at the young age of 35.
637
00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:17,810
The official cause of death
on her death certificate says
638
00:33:17,813 --> 00:33:20,847
general collapse from insanity.
639
00:33:20,851 --> 00:33:23,686
How do you die from insanity?
640
00:33:23,689 --> 00:33:24,838
I think she committed suicide, to be honest.
641
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,256
That's what I'm thinking, too.
642
00:33:26,259 --> 00:33:27,325
Seems to fit.
643
00:33:27,327 --> 00:33:29,126
Do you have any sense that
644
00:33:29,129 --> 00:33:31,530
she may be one of those women?
645
00:33:31,533 --> 00:33:33,366
Yeah.
646
00:33:37,273 --> 00:33:40,942
Then I met this interesting character.
647
00:33:40,945 --> 00:33:41,978
He was in the back over here.
648
00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:43,613
That's their bedroom.
649
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,285
He kind of was throwing attitude,
650
00:33:47,287 --> 00:33:50,722
definitely grumpy,
kind of crotchety older man.
651
00:33:50,726 --> 00:33:54,244
He was probably in his 70s.
652
00:33:54,247 --> 00:33:56,380
He felt like this place belonged to him,
653
00:33:56,383 --> 00:34:00,852
so I was thinking he either
owned it or he lived here.
654
00:34:00,856 --> 00:34:03,240
He definitely didn't have a good death.
655
00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:07,778
His face was not in good shape.
656
00:34:07,782 --> 00:34:09,065
And then, he, like, runs up,
657
00:34:09,068 --> 00:34:11,034
and he starts, like,
pinching me and poking me.
658
00:34:11,036 --> 00:34:13,387
Barb, can you explain to Amy
659
00:34:13,390 --> 00:34:16,691
what your son and your grandson
experienced in one of the rooms?
660
00:34:16,695 --> 00:34:18,862
Yes. He was putting him down for a nap,
661
00:34:18,864 --> 00:34:21,064
and so he was lying on the bed with him,
662
00:34:21,067 --> 00:34:23,300
and the grandson pointed at a chair,
663
00:34:23,303 --> 00:34:25,253
and there wasn't anybody in the chair,
664
00:34:25,256 --> 00:34:28,358
but then he said, "That's the bad guy."
665
00:34:29,477 --> 00:34:31,779
You mention you think he owned the place?
666
00:34:31,782 --> 00:34:33,181
Yeah.
667
00:34:33,184 --> 00:34:35,968
Well, the original owner is a guy,
James Stoddard,
668
00:34:35,971 --> 00:34:39,856
that had businesses in town with the lumber.
669
00:34:39,859 --> 00:34:40,892
He had this place for like three years,
670
00:34:40,895 --> 00:34:42,227
and he sold it to some doctors.
671
00:34:42,229 --> 00:34:44,630
He knew they needed a hospital here,
and he built it.
672
00:34:44,633 --> 00:34:47,701
You said the guy was in his 70s.
673
00:34:47,704 --> 00:34:49,503
This guy died at the age of 68.
674
00:34:49,506 --> 00:34:52,791
You mention he had a horrible death.
675
00:34:52,794 --> 00:34:54,444
This guy actually died from dementia.
676
00:34:56,047 --> 00:35:00,584
So more than likely,
this is the guy, the same...
677
00:35:00,588 --> 00:35:02,054
- Sounded like it.
- Sure seems like it.
678
00:35:02,057 --> 00:35:03,223
Yeah.
679
00:35:03,225 --> 00:35:05,425
- Mischievous, yeah.
- Mischievous old codger.
680
00:35:05,428 --> 00:35:06,427
Yes.
681
00:35:06,429 --> 00:35:07,729
Mm.
682
00:35:07,732 --> 00:35:10,065
It doesn't surprise me that
this man is still here,
683
00:35:10,068 --> 00:35:12,135
as the dead often come back to the place
684
00:35:12,137 --> 00:35:14,487
which had the most meaning in their lives.
685
00:35:15,525 --> 00:35:19,778
There's a lot of stuff going on
between him and the dead women.
686
00:35:19,781 --> 00:35:22,732
He does not like them at all.
687
00:35:22,735 --> 00:35:25,753
He said that this is his house
688
00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:28,340
and that those [bleep] need to go.
689
00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:31,211
There's been about five or six times
690
00:35:31,214 --> 00:35:34,332
where him and the main
lady got into a fight,
691
00:35:34,335 --> 00:35:38,253
and I saw, like,
physical things happening around them
692
00:35:38,256 --> 00:35:40,156
because of this exchange.
693
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:44,278
Specifically, I saw,
like, electrical issues.
694
00:35:44,282 --> 00:35:46,866
And this is only when they're fighting.
695
00:35:46,869 --> 00:35:49,103
That explains a lot of things, right?
696
00:35:49,105 --> 00:35:50,320
Yes, it does.
697
00:35:50,323 --> 00:35:53,925
Upstairs, the TV going on and off by itself,
698
00:35:53,928 --> 00:35:57,213
lights going on and off by themselves.
699
00:35:57,216 --> 00:35:59,132
There's nobody to turn it on.
700
00:35:59,135 --> 00:36:02,270
And does this happen often?
701
00:36:02,273 --> 00:36:03,822
- Recently, yes.
- Last little while.
702
00:36:03,825 --> 00:36:06,659
We really don't want anyone
to just get frightened to...
703
00:36:06,662 --> 00:36:10,614
I mean, to have a health issue because of...
704
00:36:10,618 --> 00:36:12,969
You got a legitimate issue here.
705
00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:18,125
Initially, I didn't like the older man,
706
00:36:18,128 --> 00:36:22,514
and then I went upstairs
and saw the women up there,
707
00:36:22,518 --> 00:36:24,901
and it was a very different story.
708
00:36:25,587 --> 00:36:27,455
Are they different women, or...?
709
00:36:27,458 --> 00:36:29,224
No, it's the same women.
710
00:36:29,227 --> 00:36:31,895
Up there, what they were doing
711
00:36:31,898 --> 00:36:34,798
was taking the energy from the living.
712
00:36:34,801 --> 00:36:36,034
Yeah.
713
00:36:37,271 --> 00:36:40,640
And they just all stand around the bed
714
00:36:40,643 --> 00:36:43,177
and literally are just, like,
almost breathing it in.
715
00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:46,247
The main woman does know what she's doing.
716
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:48,801
And she's doing it to sustain herself.
717
00:36:50,004 --> 00:36:52,022
I spoke to one of your guests
718
00:36:52,025 --> 00:36:53,624
that was staying here that night I was here.
719
00:36:53,627 --> 00:36:55,627
She said she just felt like the whole energy
720
00:36:55,629 --> 00:36:57,930
just got sucked right out of her.
721
00:36:57,933 --> 00:37:01,551
We've had guests on more than one occasion
722
00:37:01,555 --> 00:37:06,224
that have sensed somebody
sitting on the edge of the bed,
723
00:37:06,227 --> 00:37:07,610
crawling into bed with them.
724
00:37:07,613 --> 00:37:09,730
That's exactly what's going on.
725
00:37:11,985 --> 00:37:13,936
I did a sketch
726
00:37:13,938 --> 00:37:17,289
of what people may encounter
when they're in the bed.
727
00:37:32,179 --> 00:37:34,213
Yeah.
728
00:37:34,216 --> 00:37:36,950
BARBARA: That's really frightening.
729
00:37:36,953 --> 00:37:39,787
I mean, anybody that comes here... the kids,
the grandkids...
730
00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:44,043
I don't want them to be
afraid to go upstairs.
731
00:38:00,126 --> 00:38:02,461
AMY: I did do a sketch
732
00:38:02,464 --> 00:38:06,983
of what people may encounter
when they're in the bed.
733
00:38:24,259 --> 00:38:25,660
Yeah.
734
00:38:25,662 --> 00:38:28,629
BARBARA: That's really frightening.
735
00:38:28,633 --> 00:38:31,885
I mean, anybody that comes here... the kids,
the grandkids...
736
00:38:31,888 --> 00:38:36,190
I don't want them to be
afraid to go upstairs.
737
00:38:40,615 --> 00:38:42,883
I don't want to be afraid to go upstairs.
738
00:38:42,886 --> 00:38:47,355
You know, it would be nice
if the family could continue
739
00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:52,838
to come here and live here
and be happy and safe...
740
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:54,723
Mm-hmm.
741
00:38:54,725 --> 00:38:57,943
...for them to love this
place as much as I do.
742
00:39:00,567 --> 00:39:02,734
Your son Brian told me
a story about the bed.
743
00:39:02,736 --> 00:39:04,653
JAY: Mm-hmm.
744
00:39:04,656 --> 00:39:07,207
He was awake in bed,
745
00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:12,096
and, all of a sudden,
the bed started to shake.
746
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,450
Okay.
747
00:39:14,453 --> 00:39:15,736
When he described it to me, I mean...
748
00:39:15,738 --> 00:39:16,787
It was shaking.
749
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:18,823
That could be her.
750
00:39:24,165 --> 00:39:29,169
She's strong, and she can be
very physical and very forceful.
751
00:39:29,173 --> 00:39:34,009
If somebody irks her,
she definitely will let them know.
752
00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:36,547
But if you're exposed to that consistently
753
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:38,116
over a long period of time,
754
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:42,238
it can cause serious
illnesses and heart issues
755
00:39:42,241 --> 00:39:44,157
and things like that.
756
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,161
Wow.
757
00:39:51,336 --> 00:39:54,472
You know, you don't want to
pass something like this on
758
00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:55,807
to your son and grandchildren.
759
00:39:55,809 --> 00:40:01,647
No, I wouldn't do that until
this issue is resolved.
760
00:40:02,969 --> 00:40:05,220
How do we stop her?
761
00:40:06,658 --> 00:40:08,492
We want to put a stop to it.
762
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:13,164
[Owl hoots]
763
00:40:13,167 --> 00:40:15,084
Well, guys,
I know this has been a lot tonight,
764
00:40:15,087 --> 00:40:17,203
but at least you know what's going on.
765
00:40:17,205 --> 00:40:19,789
The big question is,
can you stay here safely
766
00:40:19,792 --> 00:40:22,510
and pass it on to your
family like you want to?
767
00:40:22,513 --> 00:40:25,547
For that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
768
00:40:25,551 --> 00:40:27,718
Okay.
769
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,789
So, first off, there needs to
be a pastor who's brought in,
770
00:40:31,793 --> 00:40:36,495
and this individual needs to do a blessing
771
00:40:36,499 --> 00:40:42,170
and needs to tell the women
and the other lost souls to go.
772
00:40:42,174 --> 00:40:44,591
And this needs to be a
direct order from him.
773
00:40:44,594 --> 00:40:47,678
It needs to be firm.
774
00:40:47,681 --> 00:40:50,549
What this will do is,
775
00:40:50,552 --> 00:40:55,521
all of the women will leave,
and the older man will leave.
776
00:40:55,525 --> 00:40:57,892
The second thing is,
777
00:40:57,895 --> 00:41:03,115
you need a person who is a Reiki
master and does home cleansings,
778
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,169
so that's a healer,
779
00:41:05,172 --> 00:41:10,242
to come in and do a cleansing
of the whole location,
780
00:41:10,245 --> 00:41:12,278
and that's gonna get rid of, like,
781
00:41:12,281 --> 00:41:15,282
all of the residual illness and trauma
782
00:41:15,285 --> 00:41:18,003
that's been kind of absorbed here.
783
00:41:18,006 --> 00:41:20,106
And that'll get rid of all that stuff
784
00:41:20,109 --> 00:41:21,425
that's here with the hospital?
785
00:41:21,428 --> 00:41:22,460
Yeah.
786
00:41:26,918 --> 00:41:28,869
You look like you feel like... [Sighs]
787
00:41:28,872 --> 00:41:30,571
I am so relieved.
788
00:41:30,573 --> 00:41:34,075
Are you gonna take Amy's advice?
789
00:41:34,078 --> 00:41:35,661
Yes, yes. Absolutely.
790
00:41:35,664 --> 00:41:37,981
It's got to make you feel good
791
00:41:37,984 --> 00:41:40,017
you could keep this place in the family now.
792
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:41,586
Yes. Absolutely.
793
00:41:44,241 --> 00:41:46,125
It's a happy cry.
794
00:41:48,397 --> 00:41:51,332
AMY: It won't be easy
removing the layers of dead
795
00:41:51,335 --> 00:41:53,335
inside this location.
796
00:41:53,338 --> 00:41:56,673
But with the help of a
pastor and a Reiki master,
797
00:41:56,676 --> 00:41:58,509
the dead will be set free.
798
00:41:58,512 --> 00:42:00,112
And I believe Jay and Barb
799
00:42:00,114 --> 00:42:01,997
can pass down their bed-and-breakfast
800
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,050
to future generations.
801
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:08,650
Repair and Synchronization by
Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0
60987
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.