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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,395 --> 00:00:13,697 Probably a lot of different deaths, a lot of violent deaths. 2 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:16,668 It just seems like it's getting worse for everyone. 3 00:00:16,671 --> 00:00:19,071 He says, "Those [bleep] got to go." 4 00:00:19,074 --> 00:00:21,208 WYN: He shoots himself with the same rifle 5 00:00:21,211 --> 00:00:22,744 that killed his stepdaughter. 6 00:00:22,747 --> 00:00:24,330 That's a twist. 7 00:00:24,332 --> 00:00:27,116 Someone said, "That's the room of death." 8 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:30,120 My son whispered, he says, "That's a bad guy." 9 00:00:30,123 --> 00:00:31,889 Would you say they're a threat? 10 00:00:33,027 --> 00:00:37,697 Something wiped everybody out. 11 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:40,367 "You're mine. You can't escape." 12 00:00:40,370 --> 00:00:42,771 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:42,774 --> 00:00:45,675 [Crying] What's happening? 14 00:00:45,678 --> 00:00:46,777 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,213 It seems like a devil. 16 00:00:49,216 --> 00:00:50,916 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:52,584 He's pissed off. 18 00:00:52,587 --> 00:00:54,020 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:54,022 --> 00:00:55,655 I felt real fear. 20 00:00:55,658 --> 00:00:59,126 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:59,129 --> 00:01:00,696 I think she's being murdered. 22 00:01:00,699 --> 00:01:02,020 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:02,221 --> 00:01:03,838 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,506 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:05,509 --> 00:01:07,242 Serial killer pops in my head. 26 00:01:07,244 --> 00:01:10,812 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:10,816 --> 00:01:12,015 Nobody believes me. 28 00:01:12,017 --> 00:01:13,450 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:13,453 --> 00:01:15,753 - Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do. 30 00:01:15,756 --> 00:01:17,489 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:17,491 --> 00:01:19,525 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:19,528 --> 00:01:20,727 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:22,396 You got problems. I got news for you. 34 00:01:22,398 --> 00:01:24,682 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:24,685 --> 00:01:26,768 This is our house... whether they like it or not. 36 00:01:26,771 --> 00:01:28,037 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:28,039 --> 00:01:31,107 This is their house, the house of the dead. 38 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,240 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 39 00:01:48,217 --> 00:01:50,218 I'm in Sumpter, Oregon. 40 00:01:50,221 --> 00:01:53,222 It's a small mountain town about two hours from Boise, Idaho. 41 00:01:53,225 --> 00:01:55,241 Now, we got called in by a couple 42 00:01:55,244 --> 00:01:57,995 that live and work in a B&B in town. 43 00:01:57,998 --> 00:02:00,348 They want to turn the business over to their son, 44 00:02:00,350 --> 00:02:03,451 but the activity's gotten so violent and physical lately, 45 00:02:03,455 --> 00:02:05,372 they don't know what to do, and they're worried. 46 00:02:05,374 --> 00:02:07,624 They sound scared and desperately want us to find 47 00:02:07,627 --> 00:02:09,961 a way to keep the B&B in the family. 48 00:02:19,059 --> 00:02:23,746 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 49 00:02:23,749 --> 00:02:26,467 Photographs, antiques, and personal items 50 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:28,787 can influence her findings. 51 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:32,959 So it's important I cover or remove them all. 52 00:02:32,963 --> 00:02:36,230 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:50,903 --> 00:02:55,890 There is a lot of physical pain here. 54 00:02:55,893 --> 00:02:59,028 My whole head hurts a lot, 55 00:02:59,032 --> 00:03:03,001 and there's a lot of dead people here. 56 00:03:05,139 --> 00:03:10,610 They all died horribly and I would say violently. 57 00:03:18,724 --> 00:03:20,809 STEVE: Barb, I'm glad to be here. 58 00:03:20,812 --> 00:03:23,813 This is beautiful place, but you got a problem here. 59 00:03:23,816 --> 00:03:25,816 Yeah. We love the place. 60 00:03:25,819 --> 00:03:28,603 We've had it for 17 years, 61 00:03:28,606 --> 00:03:31,607 and we've always had little things happen, 62 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:33,193 but it just seems like 63 00:03:33,195 --> 00:03:36,713 it's getting worse for our guests, for everyone. 64 00:03:36,717 --> 00:03:39,584 Now, Barb, as far as activity goes, what are we talking about? 65 00:03:39,587 --> 00:03:41,838 We hear noises that we can't explain, 66 00:03:41,841 --> 00:03:44,658 things are moved, 67 00:03:44,661 --> 00:03:46,444 people feel sick. 68 00:03:46,446 --> 00:03:48,413 And now it's getting really physical. 69 00:03:48,416 --> 00:03:49,698 People are being touched. 70 00:03:49,701 --> 00:03:51,768 I'm just concerned, you know, because we... 71 00:03:51,770 --> 00:03:53,403 Like I say, it's our home first, 72 00:03:53,406 --> 00:03:55,223 and you want to be happy in your home. 73 00:03:55,226 --> 00:03:57,676 And then when we have people come in, 74 00:03:57,679 --> 00:04:00,864 we want to feel that they are safe and secure here. 75 00:04:00,867 --> 00:04:04,285 What do you know about the history of the building itself? 76 00:04:04,288 --> 00:04:08,774 That it opened in May of 1900 as Sumpter General Hospital. 77 00:04:08,778 --> 00:04:10,794 - So this was a hospital? - Mm-hmm. 78 00:04:10,797 --> 00:04:11,796 That was what it was built for. 79 00:04:11,798 --> 00:04:13,047 Okay. 80 00:04:13,049 --> 00:04:15,166 You're looking to retire and turn this over to your son, 81 00:04:15,169 --> 00:04:16,752 - is that right? - Yeah, that was the idea. 82 00:04:19,842 --> 00:04:22,376 And he's got two little kids. 83 00:04:22,379 --> 00:04:24,113 I just... 84 00:04:24,116 --> 00:04:28,184 I want to make sure that they're safe when they're here. 85 00:04:28,187 --> 00:04:30,621 - How attached are you to this place? - I love it. 86 00:04:30,624 --> 00:04:32,791 I guess we just really thought, 87 00:04:32,794 --> 00:04:35,378 "Oh, that building just needs to be"... 88 00:04:39,018 --> 00:04:40,935 "Needs some love and attention." 89 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:49,864 AMY: What the hell? 90 00:04:49,867 --> 00:04:52,417 There's quite a few dead women here. 91 00:04:54,556 --> 00:05:00,161 They seem to be from a while ago, 92 00:05:00,165 --> 00:05:06,235 maybe 1890... 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,508 like 1905? 94 00:05:09,511 --> 00:05:13,880 One of the ladies is the representative 95 00:05:13,883 --> 00:05:18,619 and head honcho of these other four women. 96 00:05:22,628 --> 00:05:26,264 I don't know why they got stuck here. 97 00:05:26,267 --> 00:05:29,769 They didn't die all at the same time. 98 00:05:32,809 --> 00:05:34,677 There's a man. 99 00:05:34,679 --> 00:05:36,145 Mm. 100 00:05:36,148 --> 00:05:38,848 He doesn't look good. He's a little old man. 101 00:05:38,851 --> 00:05:42,053 He's mean. He is ornery. 102 00:05:42,056 --> 00:05:43,672 Ow. 103 00:05:43,675 --> 00:05:49,562 He definitely can make physical contact with people. 104 00:05:49,566 --> 00:05:51,399 He's pinching and poking. 105 00:05:51,402 --> 00:05:53,469 [Grunts] 106 00:05:53,471 --> 00:05:55,037 I don't like him. 107 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:01,213 STEVE: Okay, what's going on in here? 108 00:06:01,215 --> 00:06:03,616 We keep hearing loud bangs, 109 00:06:03,619 --> 00:06:06,736 like an encyclopedia, heavy book being dropped flat 110 00:06:06,739 --> 00:06:07,955 on a wooden floor. 111 00:06:07,958 --> 00:06:09,374 And we'd get up. We were in bed. 112 00:06:09,376 --> 00:06:11,176 We'd get up, and we look all around. 113 00:06:11,179 --> 00:06:13,046 We don't see anything that made a noise. 114 00:06:13,049 --> 00:06:14,682 And what about guests? 115 00:06:14,684 --> 00:06:15,983 No, there were no guests. 116 00:06:15,986 --> 00:06:17,285 Well, this is a B&B. 117 00:06:17,287 --> 00:06:18,954 You sure nobody came in to try to get a room? 118 00:06:18,957 --> 00:06:21,173 There wasn't anything. I mean, we both looked. 119 00:06:21,176 --> 00:06:23,210 Anything else in this room? 120 00:06:23,213 --> 00:06:24,462 Yes. One day, 121 00:06:24,464 --> 00:06:26,314 these doors were propped open like they are right now. 122 00:06:26,317 --> 00:06:27,483 Okay. 123 00:06:27,485 --> 00:06:31,503 I'm in the other room, hear a noise, come out here, 124 00:06:31,507 --> 00:06:34,425 and this picture is lying facedown 125 00:06:34,428 --> 00:06:37,229 right here on the floor. 126 00:06:40,085 --> 00:06:42,636 It would have had to come up and over and down. 127 00:06:42,639 --> 00:06:43,805 Okay, so when you... 128 00:06:43,807 --> 00:06:45,340 It was just a couple minutes before, 129 00:06:45,343 --> 00:06:47,310 you saw the doors like this. Yes, yeah, yeah. 130 00:06:47,313 --> 00:06:48,645 And that picture was... 131 00:06:48,647 --> 00:06:50,514 Was lying facedown right there. 132 00:06:50,517 --> 00:06:52,967 Now, any guests? 133 00:06:52,970 --> 00:06:53,969 No guests. 134 00:06:53,971 --> 00:06:55,170 So nobody else was in the building? 135 00:06:55,173 --> 00:06:56,272 No one. 136 00:06:56,274 --> 00:06:58,325 I can't even figure out, 137 00:06:58,328 --> 00:07:00,911 unless it fell and came through here, 138 00:07:00,914 --> 00:07:03,265 but even that's pushing it. 139 00:07:03,268 --> 00:07:05,218 I can't even figure out how to debunk that. 140 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:09,339 Now, have any guests had issues with things moving on their own? 141 00:07:09,343 --> 00:07:11,976 A lot of guests have experienced that. 142 00:07:11,979 --> 00:07:14,146 Their glasses. Okay. 143 00:07:14,149 --> 00:07:15,599 Kick their shoes off here 144 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:18,068 and find them over there the next morning. 145 00:07:18,071 --> 00:07:20,021 That's bizarre. 146 00:07:21,224 --> 00:07:25,728 The old man, he's tired of these women. 147 00:07:25,732 --> 00:07:29,717 He's trying to keep them out of the house, 148 00:07:29,721 --> 00:07:32,739 but it's not working, 149 00:07:32,742 --> 00:07:35,376 and I think he really hates the lead one. 150 00:07:35,379 --> 00:07:38,613 They've had fights, 151 00:07:38,616 --> 00:07:41,717 and it's affected their environment. 152 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,855 Some objects moved or thrown. 153 00:07:44,858 --> 00:07:47,158 And, like, the electricity 154 00:07:47,161 --> 00:07:51,230 definitely was affected in those situations. 155 00:07:58,993 --> 00:08:00,244 I spoke with your wife. 156 00:08:00,246 --> 00:08:01,445 JAY: Mm-hmm. 157 00:08:01,448 --> 00:08:03,381 And she was telling me about some of the things 158 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:04,783 you got going on here. 159 00:08:04,786 --> 00:08:06,285 It seems like you got a bit of a problem. 160 00:08:06,287 --> 00:08:09,088 The increased activity in the last couple of years, 161 00:08:09,091 --> 00:08:11,091 especially in the last few months, 162 00:08:11,094 --> 00:08:13,544 has given me some concern. 163 00:08:13,547 --> 00:08:14,797 Has it hurt business? 164 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,233 In recent months, there have been three or four times 165 00:08:17,236 --> 00:08:18,869 where, in room six, 166 00:08:18,871 --> 00:08:20,037 somebody has sensed 167 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,624 that somebody had crawled into bed with them. 168 00:08:22,627 --> 00:08:26,679 And in one case, I had a young lady up there 169 00:08:26,682 --> 00:08:30,434 who said the next morning that, whatever it was, 170 00:08:30,438 --> 00:08:33,072 was breathing in her ear, and it startled her. 171 00:08:33,075 --> 00:08:35,692 She woke up, and she yelled. 172 00:08:35,695 --> 00:08:39,063 What if that had been somebody that had a bad ticker 173 00:08:39,066 --> 00:08:42,034 and was fairly old, you know? 174 00:08:42,037 --> 00:08:44,320 What kind of experience are you having in the house? 175 00:08:44,323 --> 00:08:47,208 Electrical problems drive me crazy. 176 00:08:47,211 --> 00:08:50,328 Lights going on and off by themselves, 177 00:08:50,331 --> 00:08:52,515 timers going off. 178 00:08:52,518 --> 00:08:53,934 What about the wiring? 179 00:08:53,936 --> 00:08:55,819 Wiring's all brand-new. 180 00:08:55,822 --> 00:08:57,722 Have you seen anything else, heard anything else? 181 00:08:57,725 --> 00:08:58,858 Yeah. 182 00:08:58,860 --> 00:09:01,277 A friend of mine and I were here in the kitchen, 183 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,463 and looking up here... 184 00:09:03,466 --> 00:09:06,367 and I can only see it from the knees down... 185 00:09:06,370 --> 00:09:09,371 something or someone came down the stairs. 186 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:11,374 There wasn't anybody in here, 187 00:09:11,377 --> 00:09:13,828 and the back door was locked upstairs. 188 00:09:13,831 --> 00:09:16,181 Okay, so you guys go up there and check it out, though? 189 00:09:16,184 --> 00:09:17,817 - Yeah. - Nothing. 190 00:09:17,819 --> 00:09:19,919 There's nobody there. 191 00:09:19,922 --> 00:09:21,455 Amy once in a while will tell people this... 192 00:09:21,458 --> 00:09:23,324 "You got a serious problem that's gonna get a lot worse. 193 00:09:23,326 --> 00:09:24,859 You need to get the hell out of here." 194 00:09:24,862 --> 00:09:27,796 What would you think if you heard that? 195 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:30,550 Blood, sweat, and tears for 17 years 196 00:09:30,553 --> 00:09:32,436 have gone into this place. 197 00:09:32,439 --> 00:09:37,192 Yeah, so it would be really hard to just walk away from it. 198 00:09:37,196 --> 00:09:38,829 Okay. 199 00:09:38,831 --> 00:09:42,132 MATTHEW: Can the living see this angry man? 200 00:09:42,136 --> 00:09:45,054 Yes, and he looks creepy. 201 00:09:45,057 --> 00:09:47,224 His face is a horrible mess. 202 00:09:47,226 --> 00:09:50,644 It's like if he took ash 203 00:09:50,648 --> 00:09:53,782 and was trying to re-create his face. 204 00:09:53,785 --> 00:09:56,236 Ohh, I feel dizzy. 205 00:09:56,239 --> 00:09:58,239 I don't feel good. 206 00:09:58,242 --> 00:10:00,909 He's hurting living people. 207 00:10:27,409 --> 00:10:29,510 STEVE: So, Brian, I was taing to your mom and dad, 208 00:10:29,512 --> 00:10:31,061 and your mom was expressing concerns 209 00:10:31,064 --> 00:10:33,281 about your kids being here. 210 00:10:33,284 --> 00:10:36,235 Do you have the same concerns? 211 00:10:36,238 --> 00:10:40,290 My son comes here, and he's seeing imaginary people, 212 00:10:40,294 --> 00:10:42,156 and he doesn't see them at my house. 213 00:10:42,256 --> 00:10:44,172 He even refers to them as "the bad people." 214 00:10:44,175 --> 00:10:46,375 Putting him down for a nap, 215 00:10:46,378 --> 00:10:47,861 and he points over at the chair in the corner, 216 00:10:47,863 --> 00:10:53,717 and in a very different voice, he says, "That's a bad guy." 217 00:10:53,722 --> 00:10:56,790 Needless to say, it was just ominous. 218 00:10:56,793 --> 00:10:58,659 So what about you as far as experiences go? 219 00:10:58,661 --> 00:11:00,111 I have had one. 220 00:11:00,114 --> 00:11:04,266 I was in my room, and the bed that I'm on started shaking. 221 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:07,271 I actually thought, "Oh, earthquake?" 222 00:11:07,274 --> 00:11:09,474 Jumped off the bed, looked, still shaking, 223 00:11:09,477 --> 00:11:12,178 and nothing else in the house was moving. 224 00:11:12,181 --> 00:11:14,581 Well, how big of a shake are we talking about? 225 00:11:14,583 --> 00:11:18,168 I was getting moved, so it was like, you know, moving. 226 00:11:18,172 --> 00:11:19,688 - That hard? - Yeah, yeah. 227 00:11:19,690 --> 00:11:21,624 So, I know your mom's got cats. 228 00:11:21,627 --> 00:11:24,478 I literally looked to see if there was, like, a cat that crawled up underneath, 229 00:11:24,481 --> 00:11:26,164 and there isn't even a space under there, 230 00:11:26,167 --> 00:11:27,282 so it's not possible. 231 00:11:28,819 --> 00:11:31,838 I don't want it around. I don't want my kids around it. 232 00:11:31,841 --> 00:11:34,208 I don't want to have to talk about that with them. 233 00:11:39,417 --> 00:11:42,920 AMY: I don't like it in here. 234 00:11:47,261 --> 00:11:51,865 These women come in here, and they're all dressed in black. 235 00:11:51,868 --> 00:11:54,435 I don't like them back here. 236 00:11:54,438 --> 00:11:58,273 They're not the same as when they're downstairs. 237 00:11:58,277 --> 00:12:01,779 These women are creepy, man. 238 00:12:04,284 --> 00:12:07,119 This could be what the old man was talking about... 239 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:09,738 _ 240 00:12:09,959 --> 00:12:16,297 But I think him trying to get rid of these women 241 00:12:16,302 --> 00:12:21,005 might ultimately not be such a bad thing. 242 00:12:21,008 --> 00:12:24,643 He very much has the attitude of, 243 00:12:24,647 --> 00:12:26,880 "This is my house." You know what I mean? 244 00:12:26,883 --> 00:12:28,750 "And those [bleep] got to go." 245 00:12:37,464 --> 00:12:39,098 STEVE: Kari, I understand 246 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:40,966 you're actually staying in the hotel tonight in this room. 247 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:42,168 I am. 248 00:12:42,170 --> 00:12:44,304 Okay, is this the first time you're staying here? 249 00:12:44,307 --> 00:12:46,574 No, I've stayed here two other times. 250 00:12:46,577 --> 00:12:48,243 Kari, have you had any experiences 251 00:12:48,246 --> 00:12:49,279 while you've been here? 252 00:12:49,281 --> 00:12:52,849 I've seen a woman about three times. 253 00:12:52,852 --> 00:12:57,221 The first night I stayed here, I woke up, and there was a woman. 254 00:12:57,225 --> 00:13:02,178 To me, she just looked like a black figure walking around. 255 00:13:02,182 --> 00:13:05,216 So I fell back to sleep, 256 00:13:05,219 --> 00:13:07,403 and I woke up to turn over on my bed, 257 00:13:07,406 --> 00:13:09,472 and there was that same dark figure 258 00:13:09,475 --> 00:13:11,776 actually sitting on the side of this bed 259 00:13:11,779 --> 00:13:16,256 and looking into the mirror and brushing her hair. 260 00:13:16,357 --> 00:13:18,691 Were you boozing that night? Were you drinking? 261 00:13:18,694 --> 00:13:19,094 No. 262 00:13:19,095 --> 00:13:21,879 Okay, so you said you saw her three times. 263 00:13:21,882 --> 00:13:23,932 When was the third? 264 00:13:23,935 --> 00:13:25,301 The third was actually last night 265 00:13:25,304 --> 00:13:26,470 when I stayed in this room. 266 00:13:26,472 --> 00:13:28,672 - Last night? - Yeah. 267 00:13:28,675 --> 00:13:30,542 I was looking up towards the wall, 268 00:13:30,545 --> 00:13:33,979 and the next thing you know, there's a skeleton face. 269 00:13:33,982 --> 00:13:35,315 You're just frozen. 270 00:13:35,317 --> 00:13:39,152 You don't know what to say, or you can't scream. 271 00:13:39,156 --> 00:13:41,306 You can't do anything. 272 00:13:41,309 --> 00:13:43,143 Why do you come back? 273 00:13:43,145 --> 00:13:44,911 It brings up curiosity. 274 00:13:44,914 --> 00:13:49,100 You want to come here and see if anything's gonna happen. 275 00:13:49,104 --> 00:13:52,505 I doubt that anything is gonna happen to me. 276 00:13:54,910 --> 00:14:01,249 They've been busted in this room, the ladies... 277 00:14:01,253 --> 00:14:05,589 Like, somebody waking up in here 278 00:14:05,593 --> 00:14:10,662 and catching them doing [bleep] to the, you know, person. 279 00:14:10,666 --> 00:14:15,903 'Cause I keep seeing this one thing over and over again. 280 00:14:15,907 --> 00:14:18,107 Like, them surrounding the bed with the people in it. 281 00:14:18,110 --> 00:14:20,894 And they would definitely have that feeling 282 00:14:20,897 --> 00:14:23,915 of, like, they couldn't move, they couldn't talk, 283 00:14:23,918 --> 00:14:27,837 they can't breathe. 284 00:14:30,559 --> 00:14:32,860 So it sounds like you're experiencing a lot. 285 00:14:32,863 --> 00:14:34,630 I mean, anything else happening? 286 00:14:34,633 --> 00:14:37,300 Since I got in this house, I just felt drained. 287 00:14:37,303 --> 00:14:38,552 I got, like, physically ill. 288 00:14:38,554 --> 00:14:40,354 Describe what you mean by ill. 289 00:14:40,357 --> 00:14:43,742 Like, you felt like you were just about ready to throw up. 290 00:14:43,745 --> 00:14:47,730 When I got into his room, I just felt tired. 291 00:14:47,734 --> 00:14:50,151 I felt like I had just been drugged. 292 00:14:50,154 --> 00:14:53,105 You can hardly breathe when you get into here. 293 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,745 And the women are definitely 294 00:14:57,748 --> 00:15:00,832 feeding off of any living people around. 295 00:15:00,835 --> 00:15:04,704 They move through, like, in a pack, 296 00:15:04,707 --> 00:15:07,474 and then they just kind of feed. 297 00:15:10,447 --> 00:15:15,751 They're definitely taking energy away from living people. 298 00:15:15,755 --> 00:15:18,089 MATTHEW: How would that affect the living? 299 00:15:18,092 --> 00:15:24,830 If the person woke up while the ladies were doing it, 300 00:15:24,835 --> 00:15:31,406 then they would feel like they couldn't move and stuff. 301 00:15:31,410 --> 00:15:36,247 But if they don't, then they would feel really awful. 302 00:15:36,251 --> 00:15:37,833 Would you say they're a threat? 303 00:15:37,836 --> 00:15:39,286 Mm-hmm. 304 00:15:39,288 --> 00:15:42,239 If you were exposed to this consistently, 305 00:15:42,242 --> 00:15:44,926 you'd probably have a heart attack 306 00:15:44,929 --> 00:15:47,179 or develop severe issues. 307 00:16:03,907 --> 00:16:05,474 STEVE: This is a small town. 308 00:16:05,476 --> 00:16:07,810 It only has a couple hundred people living in it, 309 00:16:07,813 --> 00:16:10,480 so it didn't take me long to track down a local historian. 310 00:16:10,483 --> 00:16:13,250 She tells me that Jay and Barb's B&B 311 00:16:13,253 --> 00:16:15,504 has a long and dramatic history. 312 00:16:23,834 --> 00:16:27,169 So, you had mentioned that the building I'm investigating, 313 00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:29,573 that's now a B&B, had a dramatic history. 314 00:16:29,576 --> 00:16:30,842 Yes, it has. 315 00:16:30,845 --> 00:16:33,445 And my client thinks it opened up as a hospital. 316 00:16:33,448 --> 00:16:34,814 - Is that correct? - Correct. 317 00:16:34,816 --> 00:16:37,684 JB Stoddard, and there's a picture of him, 318 00:16:37,687 --> 00:16:41,238 he and his wife, Esther, bought the property in 1899, 319 00:16:41,242 --> 00:16:45,494 and then they built a hospital, and it opened in June of 1900. 320 00:16:45,497 --> 00:16:49,566 And it operated as a hospital until 1917. 321 00:16:49,570 --> 00:16:51,287 Now, do you know anything about this guy? 322 00:16:51,387 --> 00:16:53,854 He was definitely a very smart businessman. 323 00:16:53,857 --> 00:16:55,474 He was born in Utah, 324 00:16:55,477 --> 00:16:59,662 and he and his family were in the lumber industry there, 325 00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:01,316 and he came here, started a mill. 326 00:17:01,318 --> 00:17:03,752 Most of the buildings in Sumpter 327 00:17:03,755 --> 00:17:05,454 were built with lumber from his mills. 328 00:17:05,457 --> 00:17:09,526 Now, did he own the hospital the entire time it was open? 329 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:12,113 No, he sold out in 1903. 330 00:17:12,116 --> 00:17:14,900 He sold to a couple of the doctors who worked there. 331 00:17:14,903 --> 00:17:17,771 Okay. All right. 332 00:17:17,774 --> 00:17:19,223 Now, what eventually happened to him? 333 00:17:19,226 --> 00:17:21,793 He passed away in 1925. 334 00:17:21,796 --> 00:17:24,564 There's a copy of his death certificate. 335 00:17:26,936 --> 00:17:29,788 He died of dementia. He was 68. 336 00:17:32,643 --> 00:17:37,364 AMY: This grumpy old man confuses me. 337 00:17:37,368 --> 00:17:40,569 I think he owned this at one point. 338 00:17:40,572 --> 00:17:43,072 MATTHEW: Do you get an age for him? 339 00:17:43,075 --> 00:17:48,078 He's... Gosh, like 70s. 340 00:17:48,082 --> 00:17:52,919 Doesn't look like he died very well. 341 00:17:52,923 --> 00:17:56,291 Skin and bone. 342 00:17:56,294 --> 00:17:59,128 Definitely mentally unsound. 343 00:17:59,131 --> 00:18:02,632 He's very frail. 344 00:18:02,635 --> 00:18:10,508 Maybe he has Alzheimer's or something. 345 00:18:12,348 --> 00:18:14,282 You blink, you go through this town. 346 00:18:14,285 --> 00:18:16,252 Why would they build a hospital here? 347 00:18:16,254 --> 00:18:18,688 At that time, this was quite a metropolis. 348 00:18:18,691 --> 00:18:20,858 There were about 4,500 people here. 349 00:18:20,861 --> 00:18:22,811 Really? 350 00:18:22,814 --> 00:18:25,831 Here's a picture that shows Sumpter at its peak. 351 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:30,136 It shows the wood streets, the Capital Hotel. 352 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,474 Then going up the street, that's the school. 353 00:18:32,477 --> 00:18:34,177 Okay, this white building here? 354 00:18:34,179 --> 00:18:35,461 Right. 355 00:18:35,464 --> 00:18:37,481 And then next to it is what was the hospital at that time. 356 00:18:37,483 --> 00:18:40,184 We had all kinds of miners 357 00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:42,137 and then all the supporting industries 358 00:18:42,140 --> 00:18:43,389 that go along with that. 359 00:18:43,392 --> 00:18:45,425 Okay, now, what kind of mines we talking about? 360 00:18:45,427 --> 00:18:46,593 - Gold mines. - Gold. 361 00:18:46,596 --> 00:18:48,663 Yes, so there were cave-ins, 362 00:18:48,666 --> 00:18:50,883 crushing injuries, and those kinds of things 363 00:18:50,885 --> 00:18:53,435 where a hospital was definitely needed. 364 00:18:53,438 --> 00:18:56,473 Now, did the townspeople use the hospital, as well? 365 00:18:56,477 --> 00:18:57,643 Yes, they did. 366 00:18:57,645 --> 00:19:00,279 There were people that had all kinds of injuries... 367 00:19:00,282 --> 00:19:03,116 burns from house fires, horseback injuries, 368 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,086 flu epidemics, moms having babies. 369 00:19:06,089 --> 00:19:07,822 So that hospital covered everything? 370 00:19:07,825 --> 00:19:09,725 Absolutely. 371 00:19:12,464 --> 00:19:16,334 Oh, God, the head pain is ridiculous. 372 00:19:16,337 --> 00:19:18,721 Ridiculous, ridiculous. 373 00:19:18,724 --> 00:19:20,907 [Whimpers] 374 00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:22,443 Do you know what it's from? 375 00:19:22,445 --> 00:19:27,148 Well, people being hit in the head. 376 00:19:30,155 --> 00:19:31,922 [Groans] 377 00:19:31,925 --> 00:19:34,025 I don't know what's happening. 378 00:19:34,028 --> 00:19:38,731 There's been a lot of loss here, you know... 379 00:19:38,735 --> 00:19:41,753 women having miscarriages. 380 00:19:43,873 --> 00:19:45,307 Uh... 381 00:19:45,310 --> 00:19:46,710 What? 382 00:19:48,447 --> 00:19:52,283 There's a big old blood stain on the floor. 383 00:19:52,287 --> 00:19:54,954 I can't make it go away. 384 00:19:54,957 --> 00:19:56,323 How large is it? 385 00:19:56,325 --> 00:19:59,076 It's pretty [bleep] Somebody bled out. 386 00:20:00,881 --> 00:20:04,467 Quite a lot of people, quite a lot of different deaths, 387 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,336 a lot of violent deaths. 388 00:20:06,339 --> 00:20:08,873 Who the [bleep] knows what happened there, 389 00:20:08,876 --> 00:20:12,244 but there is something there. 390 00:20:12,247 --> 00:20:15,382 [Groans] 391 00:20:19,523 --> 00:20:25,278 There's someone throwing up a lot, crying, 392 00:20:25,282 --> 00:20:28,416 and they're dying 'cause they're sick. 393 00:20:28,419 --> 00:20:31,037 [Sighs] [Bleep] 394 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,140 Ow. 395 00:20:34,744 --> 00:20:38,647 STEVE: You said the hospital closed down in 1917. Why? 396 00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:41,301 There was a fire in August of 1917 397 00:20:41,304 --> 00:20:45,289 that destroyed nearly all of the business area in Sumpter. 398 00:20:47,394 --> 00:20:49,629 Wow. 399 00:20:49,632 --> 00:20:53,917 I'd say 99.9% of the businesses and quite a few residences 400 00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,805 were destroyed. 401 00:20:55,808 --> 00:21:00,477 And then this shows the destruction after the fire. 402 00:21:01,948 --> 00:21:03,782 Wow. 403 00:21:03,785 --> 00:21:06,820 Those were two of the bigger buildings in town, 404 00:21:06,823 --> 00:21:09,240 and it just totally destroyed them. 405 00:21:09,243 --> 00:21:11,176 Did the B&B I'm investigating get hit? 406 00:21:11,178 --> 00:21:12,177 No, it didn't. 407 00:21:12,180 --> 00:21:14,363 It was right on the edge of the fire. 408 00:21:14,366 --> 00:21:16,316 Now, do we know how it started? 409 00:21:16,318 --> 00:21:18,368 It started at the Capital Hotel, 410 00:21:18,371 --> 00:21:21,406 and the it spread quickly 'cause of the wood streets. 411 00:21:21,409 --> 00:21:23,142 Oh, geez. 412 00:21:23,145 --> 00:21:24,878 Did people die in this fire? 413 00:21:24,881 --> 00:21:27,298 There is one article that speaks to the fact 414 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:30,051 that two miners were killed. 415 00:21:32,373 --> 00:21:36,092 Okay, so the fire happens in 1917, 416 00:21:36,096 --> 00:21:38,964 and it stops being a hospital, so what happens after that? 417 00:21:38,967 --> 00:21:43,269 It became the Masonic Hall in 1918 until 1973. 418 00:21:43,272 --> 00:21:45,773 After the fire, the town never recovered. 419 00:22:02,598 --> 00:22:07,702 It's really strange because I... I see it more crowded. 420 00:22:07,706 --> 00:22:10,941 It looks different. 421 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:23,790 Like I'm actually seeing more of a town, I guess. 422 00:22:24,862 --> 00:22:26,696 Okay. 423 00:22:26,699 --> 00:22:30,584 There's like a wooden, like, sidewalk or something. 424 00:22:30,587 --> 00:22:33,438 Like, they're just kind of showing me, 425 00:22:33,441 --> 00:22:35,441 like, things were good, 426 00:22:35,444 --> 00:22:39,279 and then, uh... 427 00:22:39,283 --> 00:22:43,385 a few things happened to stop that. 428 00:22:43,388 --> 00:22:45,422 What do you mean? 429 00:22:45,425 --> 00:22:48,359 Something wiped everybody out. 430 00:23:05,908 --> 00:23:08,477 STEVE: So far, I've got a town that was nearly wiped out by a fire 431 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,583 and a property that was once a hospital 432 00:23:10,683 --> 00:23:12,232 where countless people died, 433 00:23:12,235 --> 00:23:14,169 but I need to see if there's anything else. 434 00:23:15,922 --> 00:23:17,056 Searching through the archives, 435 00:23:17,059 --> 00:23:18,925 I discovered the hospital's first patient 436 00:23:18,928 --> 00:23:20,828 is a miner named Fred Kane. 437 00:23:21,798 --> 00:23:25,384 Turns out, he went crazy and brutally murdered a 4-year-old 438 00:23:25,387 --> 00:23:27,704 before turning the gun on himself. 439 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:33,578 Obviously, I want to know more about this case, 440 00:23:33,581 --> 00:23:35,615 so I've called a local police chief, 441 00:23:35,618 --> 00:23:37,751 and he agreed to look into it for me. 442 00:23:41,191 --> 00:23:43,225 Well, Chief Lohner, thanks for meeting me. 443 00:23:43,228 --> 00:23:44,661 I appreciate that. 444 00:23:44,663 --> 00:23:46,129 The Fred Kane murder case, 445 00:23:46,132 --> 00:23:48,333 you were able to look into it for me. 446 00:23:48,336 --> 00:23:49,217 What were you able to find out? 447 00:23:49,317 --> 00:23:51,684 I found that Fred Kane, he was a miner up in the Sumpter area. 448 00:23:51,687 --> 00:23:53,921 He actually had went to that hospital 449 00:23:53,924 --> 00:23:57,892 that you're investigating back on June 12th of 1900. 450 00:23:57,895 --> 00:23:59,428 He was actually the first patient of the hospital 451 00:23:59,431 --> 00:24:03,466 after being kicked by a horse up at the Montezuma Mine. 452 00:24:04,787 --> 00:24:06,872 So, this is before the murder. 453 00:24:06,875 --> 00:24:08,074 It is. 454 00:24:08,076 --> 00:24:10,443 A few months later, on September 19th, 455 00:24:10,446 --> 00:24:11,612 up at the family cabin 456 00:24:11,614 --> 00:24:13,814 where Fred Kane lived with his wife, Naomi, 457 00:24:13,817 --> 00:24:16,117 and her 4-year-old daughter, his stepdaughter, 458 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:18,087 a young gal by the name of Ruth Toney, 459 00:24:18,090 --> 00:24:22,042 Fred... He took his Winchester rifle and left the residence. 460 00:24:22,045 --> 00:24:24,062 And when Fred came back into the cabin, 461 00:24:24,065 --> 00:24:26,165 he fired a round from his Winchester, 462 00:24:26,168 --> 00:24:28,668 and that actually shot through Ruth 463 00:24:28,671 --> 00:24:31,339 and entered the body of Naomi at the time. 464 00:24:31,342 --> 00:24:36,595 The child is dead instantly by every report that we could find. 465 00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:39,205 - Okay, what happens next? - Fred picked up a club, 466 00:24:39,207 --> 00:24:41,290 and he started beating Naomi with the club, 467 00:24:41,293 --> 00:24:43,397 and then, all of a sudden, he stopped beating her, 468 00:24:43,497 --> 00:24:44,891 and he looked at her, and he said, 469 00:24:44,992 --> 00:24:46,825 "You got blood on your dress." 470 00:24:46,828 --> 00:24:48,495 So this guy's a whack job. 471 00:24:48,497 --> 00:24:50,822 You know, see, there had been no indication of any mental illness 472 00:24:50,923 --> 00:24:53,011 with Fred Kane prior to this occurrence, 473 00:24:53,112 --> 00:24:56,046 but he obviously was suffering from some type of mental delusion 474 00:24:56,049 --> 00:24:58,049 at the time if you believe Naomi's accounts. 475 00:24:58,052 --> 00:24:59,585 Now, what does she do? 476 00:24:59,587 --> 00:25:01,587 She told him that there had been another assailant 477 00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:03,490 in the residence that had shot her 478 00:25:03,493 --> 00:25:05,326 and that's where the blood came from, 479 00:25:05,329 --> 00:25:07,630 and she said he just ran out into the woods. 480 00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:09,310 And so Fred took off out the door. 481 00:25:09,410 --> 00:25:11,410 She then fled the cabin as soon as he was gone, 482 00:25:11,413 --> 00:25:13,580 and she went to a nearby cabin where she was located 483 00:25:13,583 --> 00:25:15,383 by two workers that had been in the area. 484 00:25:15,385 --> 00:25:17,886 He came back to the residence, saw Naomi was gone, 485 00:25:17,889 --> 00:25:19,755 saw the child lifeless on the floor, 486 00:25:19,758 --> 00:25:21,391 and he set the cabin on fire. 487 00:25:21,394 --> 00:25:23,644 And in the meantime, 488 00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,764 he takes off and runs to his brother's cabin, 489 00:25:25,766 --> 00:25:27,516 which is just a short distance away, 490 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,153 lights it on fire, 491 00:25:30,156 --> 00:25:32,306 and the report indicates that he shoots himself 492 00:25:32,309 --> 00:25:34,075 with the same rifle that killed his stepdaughter. 493 00:25:34,078 --> 00:25:35,378 Geez. 494 00:25:35,380 --> 00:25:38,414 He shoots himself in the chest, but he actually survives. 495 00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:41,151 He ultimately ended up at Sumpter General Hospital 496 00:25:41,154 --> 00:25:42,353 just two hours later 497 00:25:42,356 --> 00:25:45,057 after Naomi had been admitted to the same hospital. 498 00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:50,063 Okay, so both of them wind up in the location I'm investigating 499 00:25:50,067 --> 00:25:52,267 but when it was a hospital? 500 00:25:52,269 --> 00:25:54,002 Correct. Both with gunshot wounds. 501 00:25:54,005 --> 00:25:57,907 Fred ultimately died of his injuries on October 10th. 502 00:25:57,910 --> 00:25:59,860 Okay, now, what happens to Naomi? 503 00:25:59,863 --> 00:26:02,080 She ultimately was released from the hospital, 504 00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:04,333 and she ended up up in Portland, 505 00:26:04,336 --> 00:26:06,954 where she actually died exactly six years to the day 506 00:26:06,957 --> 00:26:08,206 of the original shooting. 507 00:26:08,208 --> 00:26:11,092 She died on September 19, 1906. 508 00:26:11,095 --> 00:26:12,962 She was 35 years old at the time. 509 00:26:12,965 --> 00:26:15,298 Kind of the irony on this, with the theory 510 00:26:15,301 --> 00:26:18,669 that Fred was insane at the time of the shooting, 511 00:26:18,672 --> 00:26:22,341 was that she died by what the medical examiners report, 512 00:26:22,345 --> 00:26:25,312 the death certificate states is a general collapse, 513 00:26:25,315 --> 00:26:28,233 the contributing factor being insanity. 514 00:26:28,236 --> 00:26:29,652 You're kidding me. 515 00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:31,237 No. 516 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,656 Well, that's a twist. 517 00:26:36,529 --> 00:26:43,369 AMY: There's a couple of the women who are extremely depressed. 518 00:26:43,374 --> 00:26:48,210 Like, if they were still alive, they would be suicidal, 519 00:26:48,213 --> 00:26:52,248 you know, that's how depressed they are. 520 00:26:52,252 --> 00:26:56,087 One of them lost her whole family, 521 00:26:56,090 --> 00:27:01,093 and she still feels that, like, it happened that day. 522 00:27:01,097 --> 00:27:08,736 She can't move beyond that loss. 523 00:27:16,618 --> 00:27:19,887 I encountered several dead people on my walk. 524 00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:23,375 But the woman surrounding a man asleep in his bed 525 00:27:23,379 --> 00:27:25,545 had me the most concerned. 526 00:27:25,548 --> 00:27:30,968 There's about five women who are at the foot of the bed 527 00:27:30,972 --> 00:27:33,573 staring at this man. 528 00:27:33,576 --> 00:27:37,812 And at the center is a dominant female. 529 00:27:37,815 --> 00:27:42,984 She has dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, 530 00:27:42,988 --> 00:27:45,723 thin, arched eyebrows. 531 00:27:45,726 --> 00:27:52,664 She has a high-collared, black, very plain dress on. 532 00:27:55,071 --> 00:27:56,121 Is this what you saw? 533 00:27:56,123 --> 00:27:59,375 Yes, that's what I saw. 534 00:28:22,638 --> 00:28:25,340 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 535 00:28:25,343 --> 00:28:27,476 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 536 00:28:27,479 --> 00:28:29,863 and our clients for the first time. 537 00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:34,419 Amy, I'd like you to meet Barb and Jay. 538 00:28:34,423 --> 00:28:35,662 They're a married couple, 539 00:28:35,762 --> 00:28:39,130 and they live and run this place as a B&B for the last 17 years. 540 00:28:39,133 --> 00:28:41,801 They've always had activity, 541 00:28:41,804 --> 00:28:45,088 but recently, it's gotten out of control. 542 00:28:45,092 --> 00:28:48,444 They're looking to pass this on to their son, 543 00:28:48,447 --> 00:28:49,913 who has two beautiful children. 544 00:28:49,915 --> 00:28:52,282 AMY: Oh. 545 00:28:52,285 --> 00:28:54,452 The problem is, they're really not sure 546 00:28:54,455 --> 00:28:57,055 if it's safe to keep this business in the family. 547 00:28:57,058 --> 00:29:01,110 Now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on here, 548 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:03,498 she's gonna tell us about her walk. 549 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:08,136 This was a really difficult walk for me, 550 00:29:08,140 --> 00:29:10,974 feeling, you know, really physically ill. 551 00:29:10,977 --> 00:29:13,544 Actually up there... top-10 worst. 552 00:29:13,547 --> 00:29:15,047 Wow. 553 00:29:15,050 --> 00:29:18,318 There's a lot of sickness here. 554 00:29:18,321 --> 00:29:23,824 As soon as I got out of the car, it was like chaos ensued, 555 00:29:23,958 --> 00:29:28,628 and a lot of, you know, dead people were freaking out. 556 00:29:28,632 --> 00:29:34,402 A lot of them that I encountered outside had died horribly. 557 00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:38,208 Necks were broken, heads were just bashed in. 558 00:29:38,212 --> 00:29:43,315 And the head and the neck pain that I felt out there from them 559 00:29:43,318 --> 00:29:46,686 continued all throughout the walk. 560 00:29:46,690 --> 00:29:51,693 And then I went upstairs and saw a lot of sickness. 561 00:29:51,697 --> 00:29:55,065 I saw a woman who had a miscarriage, 562 00:29:55,068 --> 00:29:59,270 a huge bloodstain on the floor, 563 00:29:59,273 --> 00:30:01,590 and then another woman in one of the bedrooms 564 00:30:01,593 --> 00:30:02,926 who seemed to be very ill. 565 00:30:02,929 --> 00:30:06,230 Like, sweat and vomiting and all of that. 566 00:30:06,233 --> 00:30:10,185 You know, that's an easyone to answer. 567 00:30:10,189 --> 00:30:12,840 This building was built in 1900 but not as a bed-and-breakfast. 568 00:30:12,843 --> 00:30:14,059 It was built as a hospital. 569 00:30:14,061 --> 00:30:15,593 - What? - Yeah. 570 00:30:15,596 --> 00:30:17,430 Oh, my gosh. Oh. 571 00:30:17,432 --> 00:30:22,585 The thing was, it operated as a hospital from 1900 to 1917. 572 00:30:22,589 --> 00:30:25,740 Back in that time, there was 4,500 people living here. 573 00:30:25,743 --> 00:30:26,809 Okay, okay. 574 00:30:26,812 --> 00:30:28,011 This was a mining town. 575 00:30:28,013 --> 00:30:29,846 When you talked about head injuries 576 00:30:29,849 --> 00:30:31,265 and all this other stuff. 577 00:30:31,268 --> 00:30:35,821 So these guys were killed by cave-ins, explosions. 578 00:30:35,824 --> 00:30:38,191 I got a stack of articles 579 00:30:38,194 --> 00:30:40,060 talking about all these injuries that happened here, 580 00:30:40,063 --> 00:30:42,230 and they were all brought to this hospital. 581 00:30:42,233 --> 00:30:45,067 Matter of fact, this was the hospital for the whole town. 582 00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:48,305 Oh, that makes sense. 583 00:30:48,308 --> 00:30:51,626 A mining town would explain probably the physical injuries. 584 00:30:51,629 --> 00:30:55,597 And this being used as a hospital explains the illness. 585 00:30:56,918 --> 00:30:59,070 So, what else did you get? 586 00:30:59,073 --> 00:31:01,189 There are about five or six women. 587 00:31:01,192 --> 00:31:03,159 They kind of travel as a pack. 588 00:31:03,162 --> 00:31:06,196 They're definitely from around 1890, 1905. 589 00:31:06,199 --> 00:31:09,300 One of the women was all dressed in black 590 00:31:09,303 --> 00:31:10,870 and seemed to be mourning. 591 00:31:10,872 --> 00:31:14,407 She definitely seems to be the leader of the group. 592 00:31:14,411 --> 00:31:18,663 They all died at different times from various illnesses. 593 00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:21,033 Does that make sense 'cause it was a hospital here? 594 00:31:21,036 --> 00:31:22,368 Well, now it does, yeah. 595 00:31:22,371 --> 00:31:24,221 Let me ask you a question about the women that are here. 596 00:31:24,224 --> 00:31:25,490 Do you think they can be seen? 597 00:31:25,492 --> 00:31:29,294 I definitely think that the main lady presents herself. 598 00:31:29,297 --> 00:31:31,998 Jay, tell her what you saw that day. 599 00:31:32,985 --> 00:31:35,403 Well, I was in the kitchen, and out of the corner of my eye, 600 00:31:35,406 --> 00:31:38,174 glanced up here on that staircase, 601 00:31:38,177 --> 00:31:41,011 and something came down, 602 00:31:41,014 --> 00:31:44,582 and I could see its legs from maybe the knees down. 603 00:31:44,585 --> 00:31:46,151 What did the legs look like? 604 00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,520 Shadows. 605 00:31:47,522 --> 00:31:49,139 Mm-hmm, okay. 606 00:31:49,142 --> 00:31:51,659 There were two women from this group 607 00:31:51,662 --> 00:31:54,763 that were extremely depressed. 608 00:31:54,766 --> 00:31:57,850 The living would probably feel this depression 609 00:31:57,853 --> 00:32:00,103 because it's so thick. 610 00:32:00,106 --> 00:32:03,308 One of the women lost her whole family at once, 611 00:32:03,311 --> 00:32:06,812 and she can't get over it. 612 00:32:06,816 --> 00:32:12,854 She seems hopeless and lost, crying all the time, 613 00:32:12,858 --> 00:32:15,558 suicidal, even though she's dead. 614 00:32:15,561 --> 00:32:18,579 She lost her entire family in one day? 615 00:32:18,582 --> 00:32:19,714 Yeah. 616 00:32:19,716 --> 00:32:21,399 Now, there's one woman that comes to mind 617 00:32:21,402 --> 00:32:23,152 that ended up here when it was a hospital 618 00:32:23,155 --> 00:32:24,738 that had a very traumatic experience. 619 00:32:24,740 --> 00:32:28,141 Her name was Naomi Kane, and her husband, Fred Kane, 620 00:32:28,145 --> 00:32:31,146 was actually the first patient in this hospital 621 00:32:31,149 --> 00:32:33,383 when he got kicked by a horse. 622 00:32:33,386 --> 00:32:36,087 Now, on September 19th that same year, 623 00:32:36,090 --> 00:32:38,490 Naomi was holding her 4-year-old daughter 624 00:32:38,493 --> 00:32:40,860 from a previous marriage in her arms. 625 00:32:40,862 --> 00:32:44,163 Fred came into the house with a rifle and shot at them. 626 00:32:45,201 --> 00:32:48,803 The bullet went through the baby, killed her, 627 00:32:48,806 --> 00:32:51,474 and then went into Naomi. 628 00:32:51,477 --> 00:32:55,095 Somehow she escapes and gets taken to the hospital here. 629 00:32:55,099 --> 00:32:56,699 Fred, in the meantime, 630 00:32:56,701 --> 00:33:00,085 lights the house that they lived in on fire and shoots himself, 631 00:33:00,089 --> 00:33:02,173 but he survived. 632 00:33:02,175 --> 00:33:03,758 Somebody found him, 633 00:33:03,761 --> 00:33:05,627 and they brought him to this hospital, as well. 634 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:07,997 He wound up dying about three weeks later. 635 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,354 Six years to the day after the shooting, 636 00:33:13,358 --> 00:33:15,408 she dies at the young age of 35. 637 00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:17,810 The official cause of death on her death certificate says 638 00:33:17,813 --> 00:33:20,847 general collapse from insanity. 639 00:33:20,851 --> 00:33:23,686 How do you die from insanity? 640 00:33:23,689 --> 00:33:24,838 I think she committed suicide, to be honest. 641 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,256 That's what I'm thinking, too. 642 00:33:26,259 --> 00:33:27,325 Seems to fit. 643 00:33:27,327 --> 00:33:29,126 Do you have any sense that 644 00:33:29,129 --> 00:33:31,530 she may be one of those women? 645 00:33:31,533 --> 00:33:33,366 Yeah. 646 00:33:37,273 --> 00:33:40,942 Then I met this interesting character. 647 00:33:40,945 --> 00:33:41,978 He was in the back over here. 648 00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:43,613 That's their bedroom. 649 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,285 He kind of was throwing attitude, 650 00:33:47,287 --> 00:33:50,722 definitely grumpy, kind of crotchety older man. 651 00:33:50,726 --> 00:33:54,244 He was probably in his 70s. 652 00:33:54,247 --> 00:33:56,380 He felt like this place belonged to him, 653 00:33:56,383 --> 00:34:00,852 so I was thinking he either owned it or he lived here. 654 00:34:00,856 --> 00:34:03,240 He definitely didn't have a good death. 655 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:07,778 His face was not in good shape. 656 00:34:07,782 --> 00:34:09,065 And then, he, like, runs up, 657 00:34:09,068 --> 00:34:11,034 and he starts, like, pinching me and poking me. 658 00:34:11,036 --> 00:34:13,387 Barb, can you explain to Amy 659 00:34:13,390 --> 00:34:16,691 what your son and your grandson experienced in one of the rooms? 660 00:34:16,695 --> 00:34:18,862 Yes. He was putting him down for a nap, 661 00:34:18,864 --> 00:34:21,064 and so he was lying on the bed with him, 662 00:34:21,067 --> 00:34:23,300 and the grandson pointed at a chair, 663 00:34:23,303 --> 00:34:25,253 and there wasn't anybody in the chair, 664 00:34:25,256 --> 00:34:28,358 but then he said, "That's the bad guy." 665 00:34:29,477 --> 00:34:31,779 You mention you think he owned the place? 666 00:34:31,782 --> 00:34:33,181 Yeah. 667 00:34:33,184 --> 00:34:35,968 Well, the original owner is a guy, James Stoddard, 668 00:34:35,971 --> 00:34:39,856 that had businesses in town with the lumber. 669 00:34:39,859 --> 00:34:40,892 He had this place for like three years, 670 00:34:40,895 --> 00:34:42,227 and he sold it to some doctors. 671 00:34:42,229 --> 00:34:44,630 He knew they needed a hospital here, and he built it. 672 00:34:44,633 --> 00:34:47,701 You said the guy was in his 70s. 673 00:34:47,704 --> 00:34:49,503 This guy died at the age of 68. 674 00:34:49,506 --> 00:34:52,791 You mention he had a horrible death. 675 00:34:52,794 --> 00:34:54,444 This guy actually died from dementia. 676 00:34:56,047 --> 00:35:00,584 So more than likely, this is the guy, the same... 677 00:35:00,588 --> 00:35:02,054 - Sounded like it. - Sure seems like it. 678 00:35:02,057 --> 00:35:03,223 Yeah. 679 00:35:03,225 --> 00:35:05,425 - Mischievous, yeah. - Mischievous old codger. 680 00:35:05,428 --> 00:35:06,427 Yes. 681 00:35:06,429 --> 00:35:07,729 Mm. 682 00:35:07,732 --> 00:35:10,065 It doesn't surprise me that this man is still here, 683 00:35:10,068 --> 00:35:12,135 as the dead often come back to the place 684 00:35:12,137 --> 00:35:14,487 which had the most meaning in their lives. 685 00:35:15,525 --> 00:35:19,778 There's a lot of stuff going on between him and the dead women. 686 00:35:19,781 --> 00:35:22,732 He does not like them at all. 687 00:35:22,735 --> 00:35:25,753 He said that this is his house 688 00:35:25,757 --> 00:35:28,340 and that those [bleep] need to go. 689 00:35:28,343 --> 00:35:31,211 There's been about five or six times 690 00:35:31,214 --> 00:35:34,332 where him and the main lady got into a fight, 691 00:35:34,335 --> 00:35:38,253 and I saw, like, physical things happening around them 692 00:35:38,256 --> 00:35:40,156 because of this exchange. 693 00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:44,278 Specifically, I saw, like, electrical issues. 694 00:35:44,282 --> 00:35:46,866 And this is only when they're fighting. 695 00:35:46,869 --> 00:35:49,103 That explains a lot of things, right? 696 00:35:49,105 --> 00:35:50,320 Yes, it does. 697 00:35:50,323 --> 00:35:53,925 Upstairs, the TV going on and off by itself, 698 00:35:53,928 --> 00:35:57,213 lights going on and off by themselves. 699 00:35:57,216 --> 00:35:59,132 There's nobody to turn it on. 700 00:35:59,135 --> 00:36:02,270 And does this happen often? 701 00:36:02,273 --> 00:36:03,822 - Recently, yes. - Last little while. 702 00:36:03,825 --> 00:36:06,659 We really don't want anyone to just get frightened to... 703 00:36:06,662 --> 00:36:10,614 I mean, to have a health issue because of... 704 00:36:10,618 --> 00:36:12,969 You got a legitimate issue here. 705 00:36:14,973 --> 00:36:18,125 Initially, I didn't like the older man, 706 00:36:18,128 --> 00:36:22,514 and then I went upstairs and saw the women up there, 707 00:36:22,518 --> 00:36:24,901 and it was a very different story. 708 00:36:25,587 --> 00:36:27,455 Are they different women, or...? 709 00:36:27,458 --> 00:36:29,224 No, it's the same women. 710 00:36:29,227 --> 00:36:31,895 Up there, what they were doing 711 00:36:31,898 --> 00:36:34,798 was taking the energy from the living. 712 00:36:34,801 --> 00:36:36,034 Yeah. 713 00:36:37,271 --> 00:36:40,640 And they just all stand around the bed 714 00:36:40,643 --> 00:36:43,177 and literally are just, like, almost breathing it in. 715 00:36:43,180 --> 00:36:46,247 The main woman does know what she's doing. 716 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:48,801 And she's doing it to sustain herself. 717 00:36:50,004 --> 00:36:52,022 I spoke to one of your guests 718 00:36:52,025 --> 00:36:53,624 that was staying here that night I was here. 719 00:36:53,627 --> 00:36:55,627 She said she just felt like the whole energy 720 00:36:55,629 --> 00:36:57,930 just got sucked right out of her. 721 00:36:57,933 --> 00:37:01,551 We've had guests on more than one occasion 722 00:37:01,555 --> 00:37:06,224 that have sensed somebody sitting on the edge of the bed, 723 00:37:06,227 --> 00:37:07,610 crawling into bed with them. 724 00:37:07,613 --> 00:37:09,730 That's exactly what's going on. 725 00:37:11,985 --> 00:37:13,936 I did a sketch 726 00:37:13,938 --> 00:37:17,289 of what people may encounter when they're in the bed. 727 00:37:32,179 --> 00:37:34,213 Yeah. 728 00:37:34,216 --> 00:37:36,950 BARBARA: That's really frightening. 729 00:37:36,953 --> 00:37:39,787 I mean, anybody that comes here... the kids, the grandkids... 730 00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:44,043 I don't want them to be afraid to go upstairs. 731 00:38:00,126 --> 00:38:02,461 AMY: I did do a sketch 732 00:38:02,464 --> 00:38:06,983 of what people may encounter when they're in the bed. 733 00:38:24,259 --> 00:38:25,660 Yeah. 734 00:38:25,662 --> 00:38:28,629 BARBARA: That's really frightening. 735 00:38:28,633 --> 00:38:31,885 I mean, anybody that comes here... the kids, the grandkids... 736 00:38:31,888 --> 00:38:36,190 I don't want them to be afraid to go upstairs. 737 00:38:40,615 --> 00:38:42,883 I don't want to be afraid to go upstairs. 738 00:38:42,886 --> 00:38:47,355 You know, it would be nice if the family could continue 739 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:52,838 to come here and live here and be happy and safe... 740 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:54,723 Mm-hmm. 741 00:38:54,725 --> 00:38:57,943 ...for them to love this place as much as I do. 742 00:39:00,567 --> 00:39:02,734 Your son Brian told me a story about the bed. 743 00:39:02,736 --> 00:39:04,653 JAY: Mm-hmm. 744 00:39:04,656 --> 00:39:07,207 He was awake in bed, 745 00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:12,096 and, all of a sudden, the bed started to shake. 746 00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,450 Okay. 747 00:39:14,453 --> 00:39:15,736 When he described it to me, I mean... 748 00:39:15,738 --> 00:39:16,787 It was shaking. 749 00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:18,823 That could be her. 750 00:39:24,165 --> 00:39:29,169 She's strong, and she can be very physical and very forceful. 751 00:39:29,173 --> 00:39:34,009 If somebody irks her, she definitely will let them know. 752 00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:36,547 But if you're exposed to that consistently 753 00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:38,116 over a long period of time, 754 00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:42,238 it can cause serious illnesses and heart issues 755 00:39:42,241 --> 00:39:44,157 and things like that. 756 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,161 Wow. 757 00:39:51,336 --> 00:39:54,472 You know, you don't want to pass something like this on 758 00:39:54,475 --> 00:39:55,807 to your son and grandchildren. 759 00:39:55,809 --> 00:40:01,647 No, I wouldn't do that until this issue is resolved. 760 00:40:02,969 --> 00:40:05,220 How do we stop her? 761 00:40:06,658 --> 00:40:08,492 We want to put a stop to it. 762 00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:13,164 [Owl hoots] 763 00:40:13,167 --> 00:40:15,084 Well, guys, I know this has been a lot tonight, 764 00:40:15,087 --> 00:40:17,203 but at least you know what's going on. 765 00:40:17,205 --> 00:40:19,789 The big question is, can you stay here safely 766 00:40:19,792 --> 00:40:22,510 and pass it on to your family like you want to? 767 00:40:22,513 --> 00:40:25,547 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 768 00:40:25,551 --> 00:40:27,718 Okay. 769 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:31,789 So, first off, there needs to be a pastor who's brought in, 770 00:40:31,793 --> 00:40:36,495 and this individual needs to do a blessing 771 00:40:36,499 --> 00:40:42,170 and needs to tell the women and the other lost souls to go. 772 00:40:42,174 --> 00:40:44,591 And this needs to be a direct order from him. 773 00:40:44,594 --> 00:40:47,678 It needs to be firm. 774 00:40:47,681 --> 00:40:50,549 What this will do is, 775 00:40:50,552 --> 00:40:55,521 all of the women will leave, and the older man will leave. 776 00:40:55,525 --> 00:40:57,892 The second thing is, 777 00:40:57,895 --> 00:41:03,115 you need a person who is a Reiki master and does home cleansings, 778 00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:05,169 so that's a healer, 779 00:41:05,172 --> 00:41:10,242 to come in and do a cleansing of the whole location, 780 00:41:10,245 --> 00:41:12,278 and that's gonna get rid of, like, 781 00:41:12,281 --> 00:41:15,282 all of the residual illness and trauma 782 00:41:15,285 --> 00:41:18,003 that's been kind of absorbed here. 783 00:41:18,006 --> 00:41:20,106 And that'll get rid of all that stuff 784 00:41:20,109 --> 00:41:21,425 that's here with the hospital? 785 00:41:21,428 --> 00:41:22,460 Yeah. 786 00:41:26,918 --> 00:41:28,869 You look like you feel like... [Sighs] 787 00:41:28,872 --> 00:41:30,571 I am so relieved. 788 00:41:30,573 --> 00:41:34,075 Are you gonna take Amy's advice? 789 00:41:34,078 --> 00:41:35,661 Yes, yes. Absolutely. 790 00:41:35,664 --> 00:41:37,981 It's got to make you feel good 791 00:41:37,984 --> 00:41:40,017 you could keep this place in the family now. 792 00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:41,586 Yes. Absolutely. 793 00:41:44,241 --> 00:41:46,125 It's a happy cry. 794 00:41:48,397 --> 00:41:51,332 AMY: It won't be easy removing the layers of dead 795 00:41:51,335 --> 00:41:53,335 inside this location. 796 00:41:53,338 --> 00:41:56,673 But with the help of a pastor and a Reiki master, 797 00:41:56,676 --> 00:41:58,509 the dead will be set free. 798 00:41:58,512 --> 00:42:00,112 And I believe Jay and Barb 799 00:42:00,114 --> 00:42:01,997 can pass down their bed-and-breakfast 800 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,050 to future generations. 801 00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:08,650 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60987

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