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AMY: The guy in the black is bad.
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He's always been bad.
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I became obsessed with this place.
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They think I'm insane.
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He can induce fear.
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Her attachment to the
place is a little spooky.
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61-year-old male who hung himself
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with a belt in the closet.
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AMY: Oh, my God.
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ROSANNA: I never say I own the place.
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I say the place owns me.
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AMY: They're saying,
"Can't you get us out of here?"
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I think that he harmed many women.
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"You're mine. You can't escape."
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My name is Amy Allan.
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[Crying] What's happening?
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I see dead people.
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It seems like a devil.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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I felt real fear.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she's being murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Serial killer pops in my head.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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Nobody believes me.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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You got problems. I got news for you.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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This is our house...
whether they like it or not.
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Or time to get out.
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This is their house, the house of the dead.
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[Gulls crying]
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I'm in Santa Paula, California.
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It's about an hour North of Los Angeles.
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I got a call from a
19-year-old named Gabriella.
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She tells me her parents, Rosanna and Tom,
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live in and run a historic hotel.
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Gabriella says the activity there is so bad
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she won't step foot in the place.
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She even sent me a video
that's got me really concerned.
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It just only hurt our
family by owning this hotel.
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It has this very negative, dark energy.
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I really worry about their mental health.
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It just really freaks me out.
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STEVE: I reached out to Tom and Rosanna,
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who agree the hotel is
ripping their family apart.
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They say if we can't help them,
they may lose everything.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
I look for anything
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that might influence her findings.
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This hotel has a lot of
artwork and historic photos
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that have to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: During my opening, I saw a cemetery.
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There are adults crying... men and women.
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There are about a dozen
little wooden crosses.
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And I hear, "The children all died."
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[Sighs]
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I feel really sick.
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Like, I can't, like, breathe.
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I think there's something in the air.
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There's something in the air.
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[Door creaks]
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Oh, boy.
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This is not good.
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Rosanna, your daughter Gabriella
got in touch with me,
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and she's really concerned
about what's happening here
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and what happened to the family.
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Gabriella has always voiced the fact
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that ever since we bought the place,
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she feels like she lost her parents.
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Okay, so, do you think she's right?
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Yeah, she's right.
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Okay.
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10 years ago, I came here
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and I saw this building that was beautiful.
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But it was in such disrepair,
I told my husband,
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"Let's do something about this building.
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This building needs help."
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So, I convinced my family.
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It was my idea, my project.
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And my family really resents that.
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I became obsessed.
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Geez.
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Now, who exactly lives here?
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This is my daughter Aisha,
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my husband, Tom, and there's myself.
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Gabriella's in New York.
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New York, yes.
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And this is our home in Malibu.
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We had the most beautiful, spacious home
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on an acre overlooking the
most beautiful beaches.
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- So, this is where you lived before?
- Yes.
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And I understand you still own it,
but you rent it out.
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- Yes, we do.
- And how long have you guys been here?
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Six months.
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So, if you wanted to go back there,
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you can go back there.
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I don't want to be rude,
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but I think you're a little insane, myself.
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I don't have the strength
and confidence to leave.
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I think this place needs me.
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At the same time,
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it's destroying your family dynamics.
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Yes. I'm very torn.
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What's some of the overall things
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that people are experiencing?
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We get people that wake up
in the middle of the night
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saying that they can't sleep here
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because they feel that their bodies
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are being pulled to the floor.
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Contractors running downstairs and saying,
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"We just saw these children
running down the hall
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and then they went into a wall."
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There are people who hear
their names being whispered,
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like, "Steve."
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Wow.
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But also, people are jumpy... more anxiety.
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And the intensity between my
husband and myself increased.
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Everybody's, like, ready to snap.
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How's your relationship
when you're not here?
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Much happier.
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So, why don't we just move out of the hotel?
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I'm, you know, scared to leave it
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because I don't know what would happen
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if I ever thought of
selling it or leaving it.
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How would it punish me?
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There's something here that I don't like.
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It's kind of making me anxious.
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Like, that kind of
rock-in-your-stomach feeling.
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Like, the fear is just disgusting.
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Like I'm stressed out.
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I feel very stressed out.
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I feel like something bad's going to happen.
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I've been resistant to coming up here.
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I get a creepy feeling here.
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I can't even send my employees
up here by themselves to clean.
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I always have to assign two
or with the maintenance guy.
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- I mean, they just won't do it by themselves.
- Okay.
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Now, this doesn't look renovated.
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Eight years ago.
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This was the last floor
that we were finishing up.
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And we put this place up on the market.
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- Okay.
- We did that a lot.
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We renovated buildings and
then put them on the market.
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My husband and I went on a trip.
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And when we were on this trip,
we got the call from hell
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saying that, "Your building is on fire
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and we don't know if we're
gonna be able to save it."
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Oh.
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Wow.
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It was just growing all over.
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It was right about this area.
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Anybody get hurt?
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Nobody got hurt, thank God.
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Now,
what makes you think this is paranormal?
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This is the irony of the whole thing.
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The fire was exactly $1.3 million of damage
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and we were insured $1.3 million.
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Like, it's trying to say to you,
"Hey, don't go anywhere."
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Now you know why I have PTSD
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from thinking about
putting it on the market.
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This place has abandonment issues.
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It doesn't let me go.
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Okay.
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Someone's yelling.
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Someone... some female's saying,
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"Oh, can't you get us out of here?
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Can't you get us out of here?"
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People running.
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There's people running.
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[Sighs]
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There was something like a
fire or something because,
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um... you know,
there was a bunch of people here
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and then they're all trying
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to get out as quickly as possible.
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STEVE: You describe how this place
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emotionally changes you when you come in
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and how, basically, you're obsessed with it.
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But have you ever had an
actual paranormal experience?
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Well, there was one time
when I was going to a room.
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And I was gonna use the restroom.
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And it was in an area that was isolated.
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And as I closed the door,
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I noticed that the doorknob had moved.
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I thought for a second
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maybe my husband was trying to scare me.
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Then the doorknob fell to the floor.
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And I thought, "Oh, my God."
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I started hitting the
door and yelling for help.
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I became like a crazy, psychotic woman.
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And how long were you stuck?
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About a half an hour.
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They found me just devastated, just sobbing.
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Okay. Now, it's an old building.
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So you sure the doorknob just didn't,
like, fall out?
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Well, I understand what you mean.
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But I saw the doorknob move.
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This place is telling me who's in control,
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that there was an energy or presence there
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that I had to respect,
and that they were in control.
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And that's why I never say I own the place.
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I say the place owns me.
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And you really believe that.
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Mm-hmm.
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'Cause there is something here.
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Okay.
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AMY: I see this guy
walking down the hallway.
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He wears all black.
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Yeah, ooh.
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Ooh [bleep] me.
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Yeah, he doesn't like women, for sure.
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Yeah, the guy in the black is bad.
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He's always been bad.
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He definitely is saying, you know,
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that he's dealt with women like me before.
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What does that mean?
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He's like, "I've taken those [bleep] out."
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Well, Tom, I was talking to your wife
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and she explained what's going on here.
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You went from oceanfront
Malibu beach house to this.
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It's night and day.
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I mean, it is culture shock moving here
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and moving to this
environment and this dwelling.
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She also mentioned she's become
obsessed with this place.
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Would you agree with that?
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Yeah, it's one of the few things
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that she says that I'll
agree with completely.
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I'm surprised she admitted that.
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Her attachment to the
place is a little spooky.
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Do you believe in this stuff at all?
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[Sighs]
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The answer is, I didn't.
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- Have you had any experience at all?
- I've had experiences.
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- What have you experienced?
- [Sighs]
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- Well, there's two distinct episodes.
- Okay.
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The first one is I was brushing my teeth
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and behind me, right here,
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I heard somebody make this really weird,
menacing sound.
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- So, I just whip around. There's nobody there.
- Right.
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I ran. I had the toothbrush in my hand.
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I had toothpaste dripping down my mouth.
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I ran into the bedroom where Rosanna was.
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It takes a lot to freak me out like that.
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Tom, you said you had two incidents.
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What was the second one?
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One of the doors to an
upstairs room was locked.
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And this was a room
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that was not supposed to
be occupied by any guest.
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The door was locked from inside.
262
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We're concerned.
We're thinking there's a guy in the room.
263
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He's not supposed to be there.
He's a stranger.
264
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What's going on there?
265
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I removed the door.
266
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And I look around.
267
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Nobody's in the closet.
Nobody's in the bathroom.
268
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And the windows were locked from the inside.
269
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I'm freaking out.
270
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I start looking in vents.
271
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There's an air conditioning vent,
272
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but it's like this.
273
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Check under the bed?
274
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Yeah, looking under the bed,
but there's not even spaces.
275
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There's nothing over there.
276
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Everything's locked from the inside.
277
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And that, to me, was even more eerie
278
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than the thing that happened to me directly.
279
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And if somebody says,
"Do you believe in ghosts?"
280
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all I can say is, "Hey,
these things happened to me
281
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and I can't explain them."
282
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Do you think it's dangerous?
283
00:13:34,672 --> 00:13:36,405
I think it could be. I think it's potent.
284
00:13:39,176 --> 00:13:42,178
AMY: The guy in the black,
he's very physical.
285
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Always, like, messing with people,
286
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like, touching, touching, touching.
287
00:13:49,287 --> 00:13:51,320
It's very distracting, very annoying,
288
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and I'm sure very
frightening for many people.
289
00:13:56,460 --> 00:13:58,394
Hmm.
290
00:13:58,396 --> 00:14:00,730
Yeah, I think this is him
291
00:14:00,732 --> 00:14:06,502
because I feel that same...
weight, that same fear.
292
00:14:06,504 --> 00:14:08,939
Now I know what made me so anxious
293
00:14:08,941 --> 00:14:11,441
when I first walked into the hotel.
294
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It's this man in black.
295
00:14:12,944 --> 00:14:15,178
His presence terrifies the living
296
00:14:15,180 --> 00:14:17,380
and he enjoys watching them suffer.
297
00:14:17,382 --> 00:14:22,152
He definitely knows how to induce fear.
298
00:14:22,154 --> 00:14:25,155
He's saying that he can really harm people.
299
00:14:33,097 --> 00:14:34,897
STEVE: Aisha, your mom feels
300
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that you guys are really upset with her.
301
00:14:37,935 --> 00:14:40,636
AISHA: We are.
302
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She's obsessed.
303
00:14:42,307 --> 00:14:45,641
The dynamic of the family
was very much disrupted.
304
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I almost felt like she loved this place
305
00:14:47,613 --> 00:14:48,778
more than me at one point.
306
00:14:48,780 --> 00:14:50,880
So, you're living here for how long?
307
00:14:50,882 --> 00:14:52,915
On and off for like 10 years.
308
00:14:52,917 --> 00:14:55,351
Why'd you bring me into
this particular room?
309
00:14:55,353 --> 00:14:56,753
Well, out of all the rooms,
310
00:14:56,755 --> 00:14:59,188
I would say this is
probably the most active.
311
00:14:59,190 --> 00:15:04,127
Recently, the curtains just started moving.
312
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There was no wind.
313
00:15:05,497 --> 00:15:07,030
The window wasn't open.
314
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You have A/C in the room?
315
00:15:08,099 --> 00:15:10,166
We do, but it wasn't on at the time.
316
00:15:10,168 --> 00:15:13,403
And it was like 2:00 a.m.,
no A/C, windows closed,
317
00:15:13,405 --> 00:15:17,373
and I look over and the curtains
are just dancing back and forth.
318
00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:19,242
Okay, was it a windy night,
anything like that?
319
00:15:19,244 --> 00:15:21,310
- Maybe a draft underneath the windows?
- No, no, no.
320
00:15:21,312 --> 00:15:22,978
Now, let me ask you a question.
321
00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:24,814
Would you stay in this place alone?
322
00:15:24,816 --> 00:15:26,115
No, I couldn't.
323
00:15:26,117 --> 00:15:28,751
This room specifically, there's an entity
324
00:15:28,753 --> 00:15:31,221
that I think doesn't like
it when there's people here.
325
00:15:31,223 --> 00:15:33,156
It's kind of like invading its territory.
326
00:15:41,098 --> 00:15:43,366
AMY: The one tall, dark guy, like,
327
00:15:43,368 --> 00:15:46,769
he doesn't want us to be in here
'cause this is his pad.
328
00:15:50,775 --> 00:15:52,975
He doesn't like it when people are in here.
329
00:15:52,977 --> 00:15:53,977
What does he do?
330
00:15:53,979 --> 00:15:56,946
He makes it, like, weird, like,
331
00:15:56,948 --> 00:16:00,516
loud and disturbing and shocking.
332
00:16:00,518 --> 00:16:02,318
He's crazy.
333
00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,920
So, I'm thinking, like,
the TV comes on full blast
334
00:16:04,922 --> 00:16:07,857
or, like, an alarm goes off.
335
00:16:07,859 --> 00:16:09,225
"Just get them out."
336
00:16:09,227 --> 00:16:12,428
He's constantly touching me,
so I don't like that.
337
00:16:12,430 --> 00:16:14,430
[Sighs]
338
00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:22,238
He's showing me, like,
he actually can hit people.
339
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,109
I see, like, he's choking women.
340
00:16:26,111 --> 00:16:28,944
You know,
like I'm seeing this woman laying in a bed
341
00:16:28,946 --> 00:16:31,414
and he's pinning her down
342
00:16:31,416 --> 00:16:35,618
and he's, like,
punching her across the face.
343
00:16:48,688 --> 00:16:50,867
I didn't think I'd have much trouble
344
00:16:50,967 --> 00:16:53,133
digging up history on
an old hotel like this,
345
00:16:53,135 --> 00:16:55,002
so I reached out to a local historian.
346
00:16:55,004 --> 00:16:57,304
And she gave me more than I bargained for.
347
00:16:57,306 --> 00:17:00,407
She says Tom and Rosanna's property
348
00:17:00,409 --> 00:17:02,743
was the scene of a brutal murder.
349
00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:04,244
[Gulls crying]
350
00:17:10,185 --> 00:17:12,352
Mary Alice,
you mentioned on the phone when we spoke
351
00:17:12,354 --> 00:17:14,288
that there was a violent incident
352
00:17:14,290 --> 00:17:16,890
that took place before
the hotel was even built.
353
00:17:16,892 --> 00:17:18,025
Yes.
354
00:17:18,027 --> 00:17:20,995
There had been a shooting on Main Street
355
00:17:20,997 --> 00:17:24,364
which had been initiated
by this outlaw Joe Dye
356
00:17:24,366 --> 00:17:30,237
who challenged a man for
having an affair with his wife.
357
00:17:30,239 --> 00:17:31,738
The man's name was Herman Haines.
358
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:34,008
Joe Dye actually shot Herman Haines
359
00:17:34,010 --> 00:17:37,444
on Main Street in 1886.
360
00:17:37,446 --> 00:17:39,146
Mary Alice, the hotel, I know where it's at.
361
00:17:39,148 --> 00:17:40,281
I saw Main Street.
362
00:17:40,283 --> 00:17:41,582
So how far do you think the shooting was...
363
00:17:41,584 --> 00:17:43,217
It was about a half block away.
364
00:17:43,219 --> 00:17:44,218
- That's it?
- Yeah.
365
00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:46,420
Now, did Joe Dye go to jail for this?
366
00:17:46,422 --> 00:17:47,922
He did.
367
00:17:47,924 --> 00:17:50,658
In fact, I understand he turned himself in.
368
00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:53,260
But he was acquitted on self-defense.
369
00:17:53,262 --> 00:17:54,328
Wow.
370
00:17:55,463 --> 00:17:57,598
So, what kind of guy was Joe Dye?
371
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,932
He was a known outlaw
372
00:17:58,934 --> 00:18:01,302
from Arizona and Southern California.
373
00:18:01,304 --> 00:18:03,604
He was known to be very mean
374
00:18:03,606 --> 00:18:06,306
and very violent and a high temper.
375
00:18:06,308 --> 00:18:08,075
Nobody messed around with Joe Dye.
376
00:18:08,077 --> 00:18:10,244
This guy's got that crazed look on his face.
377
00:18:10,246 --> 00:18:12,613
Everybody was scared to death of him.
378
00:18:12,615 --> 00:18:16,817
He even had notches on his
gun as the number of victims.
379
00:18:16,819 --> 00:18:19,086
- He had several victims?
- Yes.
380
00:18:19,088 --> 00:18:21,755
16 years before he was in Los Angeles
381
00:18:21,757 --> 00:18:23,390
that he killed his boss.
382
00:18:23,392 --> 00:18:24,992
Geez.
383
00:18:24,994 --> 00:18:28,362
He also shot a dog of
some adversary or client
384
00:18:28,364 --> 00:18:31,332
that he didn't like just to
prove that he meant business.
385
00:18:35,737 --> 00:18:38,739
AMY: The guy in the black is not good.
386
00:18:38,741 --> 00:18:42,977
I think he's from way back,
like 18... something.
387
00:18:42,979 --> 00:18:46,746
Definitely a transient...
traveled all the time.
388
00:18:46,748 --> 00:18:49,149
I'm not sure why the man in black is here,
389
00:18:49,151 --> 00:18:50,885
but I can see that he's a coward
390
00:18:50,887 --> 00:18:52,853
who shows himself as a shadow man
391
00:18:52,855 --> 00:18:55,922
so he can terrorize living
people inside this hotel.
392
00:18:55,924 --> 00:18:58,992
I think he killed prostitutes, mainly.
393
00:18:58,994 --> 00:19:01,595
He definitely strangled his victims.
394
00:19:01,597 --> 00:19:03,397
Occasionally, he'd have to shoot them.
395
00:19:06,734 --> 00:19:09,569
So, when exactly was the hotel built?
396
00:19:09,571 --> 00:19:12,206
The hotel was built in 1911.
397
00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:15,109
- Mary Alice, you mentioned there
was another incident? - Yes.
398
00:19:15,111 --> 00:19:17,812
Quite a few years later in 1969,
399
00:19:17,814 --> 00:19:22,983
this woman, Ferry Banister,
was the manager at the time.
400
00:19:22,985 --> 00:19:24,218
Okay.
401
00:19:24,220 --> 00:19:27,188
And she was awakened in
the middle of the night
402
00:19:27,190 --> 00:19:30,024
by somebody yelling and pounding on a door.
403
00:19:30,026 --> 00:19:32,259
And so she, of course, went upstairs
404
00:19:32,261 --> 00:19:34,261
to see what was going on.
405
00:19:34,263 --> 00:19:38,365
And she came across this
young man just having a fit,
406
00:19:38,367 --> 00:19:40,901
yelling he couldn't find his key.
407
00:19:40,903 --> 00:19:44,338
So, she went down and
picked up the extra key
408
00:19:44,340 --> 00:19:45,739
and brought it back.
409
00:19:45,741 --> 00:19:50,377
And he beat her up and stabbed her.
410
00:19:50,379 --> 00:19:51,912
And here is the article.
411
00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:56,082
- He fled.
- Okay.
412
00:19:56,084 --> 00:19:59,419
And witnesses saw him drive away in a car
413
00:19:59,421 --> 00:20:01,955
and he was later arrested.
414
00:20:01,957 --> 00:20:04,191
And what was the reason
for this guy stabbing her?
415
00:20:04,193 --> 00:20:05,826
I don't think they know.
416
00:20:05,828 --> 00:20:07,627
She's taken to the hospital.
417
00:20:07,629 --> 00:20:08,796
She survives.
418
00:20:08,798 --> 00:20:10,264
Is she alive today?
419
00:20:10,266 --> 00:20:11,766
She died in 2004,
420
00:20:11,768 --> 00:20:14,368
so she died an elderly woman in her 90s.
421
00:20:16,904 --> 00:20:18,239
AMY: Ow.
422
00:20:18,241 --> 00:20:20,507
Like, there's people fighting.
423
00:20:20,509 --> 00:20:22,176
Ow.
424
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,482
[Sighs]
425
00:20:28,484 --> 00:20:32,619
Some... and there's some
kind of fighting happening.
426
00:20:35,623 --> 00:20:37,958
I feel like somebody gets stabbed.
427
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,461
[Screaming]
428
00:20:40,463 --> 00:20:42,096
[Bleep] It hurts.
429
00:20:42,098 --> 00:20:43,997
I feel like it's a knife.
430
00:20:43,999 --> 00:20:46,000
I think it's a woman.
431
00:20:46,002 --> 00:20:48,935
I feel like it caught her off-guard.
432
00:20:48,937 --> 00:20:50,871
She's trying to get away.
433
00:20:50,873 --> 00:20:56,577
You know,
I just see hands and feeling all this pain.
434
00:20:56,579 --> 00:20:58,579
You all right?
435
00:20:58,581 --> 00:21:00,580
Ow.
436
00:21:14,322 --> 00:21:15,868
STEVE: So far, I've got a family
437
00:21:15,968 --> 00:21:18,207
that's been torn apart by obsession
438
00:21:18,307 --> 00:21:21,341
and a property that's
been the site of violence.
439
00:21:21,343 --> 00:21:23,310
But I need to see if there's anything else.
440
00:21:25,146 --> 00:21:26,446
Digging through the archives,
441
00:21:26,448 --> 00:21:28,248
I find that Santa Paula was devastated
442
00:21:28,250 --> 00:21:31,451
by one of the worst disasters
in California's history.
443
00:21:31,453 --> 00:21:35,455
But the headlines don't say how
it affected my client's hotel.
444
00:21:38,626 --> 00:21:40,461
I'm heading over to meet with a local author
445
00:21:40,463 --> 00:21:41,695
who says she's got information
446
00:21:41,697 --> 00:21:43,196
that will definitely help my case.
447
00:21:50,338 --> 00:21:51,788
Well, Peggy, thanks for meeting me.
448
00:21:51,888 --> 00:21:53,320
I appreciate that.
449
00:21:53,971 --> 00:21:57,439
I came across this article about
the St. Francis Dam disaster.
450
00:21:57,441 --> 00:21:59,308
What can you tell me about it?
451
00:21:59,310 --> 00:22:01,310
On the night of March 12, 1928,
452
00:22:01,312 --> 00:22:03,946
it was just a few minutes before midnight,
453
00:22:03,948 --> 00:22:05,514
the St. Francis Dam burst
454
00:22:05,516 --> 00:22:08,717
and it released 12.4
billion gallons of water.
455
00:22:08,719 --> 00:22:11,253
The flood wave was 140 feet high.
456
00:22:11,255 --> 00:22:15,223
This is what the dam looked
like before it burst.
457
00:22:15,225 --> 00:22:18,761
And this is what the dam
looked like after it burst.
458
00:22:18,763 --> 00:22:20,930
Wow.
459
00:22:20,932 --> 00:22:24,099
Five hours and 27 minutes
after the dam had broken,
460
00:22:24,101 --> 00:22:28,471
the flood wave finally swept
out to sea 54 miles later.
461
00:22:28,473 --> 00:22:29,972
It came right through here.
462
00:22:29,974 --> 00:22:32,441
It came right through the
Santa Clara River Valley.
463
00:22:32,443 --> 00:22:35,143
Look at it now,
and this is what it looked like afterwards.
464
00:22:38,848 --> 00:22:41,350
By the time the flood
waters reached Santa Paula,
465
00:22:41,352 --> 00:22:46,589
it was water and equipment
and trees and mud and bodies.
466
00:22:46,591 --> 00:22:48,157
- Oh, geez.
- It was dreadful.
467
00:22:48,159 --> 00:22:51,593
What kind of a body count we talking about?
468
00:22:51,595 --> 00:22:54,362
The official body count was about 500.
469
00:22:54,364 --> 00:22:55,498
Geez.
470
00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:57,766
But a lot of people think that it would
471
00:22:57,768 --> 00:23:00,335
have to be higher than that... 600, 700,
more.
472
00:23:00,337 --> 00:23:02,104
Do we have any idea what the death toll was
473
00:23:02,106 --> 00:23:03,305
for Santa Paula itself?
474
00:23:03,307 --> 00:23:04,940
Well, approximately at least 200.
475
00:23:04,942 --> 00:23:06,341
Where I'm investigating, Glen Tavern Inn,
476
00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:07,977
was that affected by this?
477
00:23:07,979 --> 00:23:09,644
The first floor received damage.
478
00:23:09,646 --> 00:23:11,647
- It was on high enough ground.
- Okay.
479
00:23:11,649 --> 00:23:15,017
So, the Glen Tavern Inn became a refuge
480
00:23:15,019 --> 00:23:17,786
for families that lost their homes,
481
00:23:17,788 --> 00:23:20,689
that were trying to locate the
bodies of their loved ones.
482
00:23:20,691 --> 00:23:24,093
Now, do they know what
caused the thing to burst?
483
00:23:24,095 --> 00:23:26,729
They used shoddy building materials.
484
00:23:26,731 --> 00:23:29,264
It was probably greed on
the part of Los Angeles.
485
00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:30,532
Okay.
486
00:23:35,939 --> 00:23:39,541
AMY: The floor is wrong here.
487
00:23:39,543 --> 00:23:43,145
There's like this sinking,
like it's going down,
488
00:23:43,147 --> 00:23:45,280
like a hole or something is here.
489
00:23:48,018 --> 00:23:50,185
There's a lot of commotion here.
490
00:23:50,187 --> 00:23:52,321
There's a lot of commotion here.
491
00:23:52,323 --> 00:23:55,691
The floor was wet.
492
00:23:55,693 --> 00:23:57,592
Something about the carpet was wet.
493
00:23:57,594 --> 00:23:58,627
The carpet was wet.
494
00:24:02,198 --> 00:24:04,500
There's a lot of arguing over this.
495
00:24:04,502 --> 00:24:06,101
You know, the guys are like,
496
00:24:06,103 --> 00:24:07,803
"This is gonna mess everything up
497
00:24:07,805 --> 00:24:09,404
if we don't fix this right now."
498
00:24:09,406 --> 00:24:12,941
The other men are kind of like,
"Well, we don't really care."
499
00:24:12,943 --> 00:24:15,377
It's all about money.
500
00:24:19,749 --> 00:24:21,449
I've already got a lot of history
501
00:24:21,451 --> 00:24:22,885
on Tom and Rosanna's property,
502
00:24:22,887 --> 00:24:25,120
but it turns out there's one more thing.
503
00:24:25,122 --> 00:24:27,689
A local sheriff tells me
he found a recent death
504
00:24:27,691 --> 00:24:31,026
that didn't even make the papers
right on the hotel grounds.
505
00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,004
Well, Sheriff Dean, thanks for meeting me.
506
00:24:42,006 --> 00:24:43,205
I appreciate that.
507
00:24:43,207 --> 00:24:45,373
You said you actually found
a death in the location?
508
00:24:45,375 --> 00:24:48,043
Yeah,
we actually did some checking and found
509
00:24:48,045 --> 00:24:51,046
that there was a suicide
back in 2007 that occurred.
510
00:24:51,048 --> 00:24:53,315
This is a copy of the coroner's report
511
00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:54,917
from the suicide.
512
00:24:54,919 --> 00:24:57,485
He was found in the
apartments just to the rear
513
00:24:57,487 --> 00:24:59,788
of the guest rooms at the Glen Tavern.
514
00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:01,991
61-year-old male, Henry.
515
00:25:01,993 --> 00:25:03,258
So it said he hung himself.
516
00:25:03,260 --> 00:25:05,060
What are the circumstances? Do you know?
517
00:25:05,062 --> 00:25:06,461
He had been living at the hotel
518
00:25:06,463 --> 00:25:08,663
and his family hadn't heard
from him in a couple days,
519
00:25:08,665 --> 00:25:10,533
so they actually called
the keepers and said,
520
00:25:10,535 --> 00:25:12,801
"Hey, would you mind going
and taking a look and check?"
521
00:25:12,803 --> 00:25:14,737
They used the pass key
to go in and found him.
522
00:25:14,739 --> 00:25:16,939
He could have been there
for one or two days.
523
00:25:16,941 --> 00:25:18,373
Do you know what the circumstances were?
524
00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:20,442
Did he leave a note or anything?
Or was it just one of those...
525
00:25:20,444 --> 00:25:22,477
Really wasn't much out of the ordinary.
526
00:25:22,479 --> 00:25:24,846
They did notice several 20-ounce beer cans
527
00:25:24,848 --> 00:25:26,048
that were in the trash.
528
00:25:26,050 --> 00:25:27,916
It appears he tried to hang himself
529
00:25:27,918 --> 00:25:29,384
with a belt in the closet.
530
00:25:29,386 --> 00:25:32,220
It looks like he wasn't
successful the first time
531
00:25:32,222 --> 00:25:35,490
and found another belt and, unfortunately,
532
00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:37,693
was successful on the second attempt.
533
00:25:41,631 --> 00:25:44,699
AMY: I just hear the word "mad man".
534
00:25:49,539 --> 00:25:52,875
And I see, like, a guy in the corner,
535
00:25:52,877 --> 00:25:54,776
like, hunched down and balled up.
536
00:25:54,778 --> 00:25:55,978
And he's like...
537
00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:59,648
[Chattering]
538
00:25:59,650 --> 00:26:01,550
He'll get up on the desk or the bed,
you know,
539
00:26:01,552 --> 00:26:03,585
and he's like constantly writing, writing...
540
00:26:03,587 --> 00:26:05,154
scratching and writing on the walls.
541
00:26:05,156 --> 00:26:09,791
I think this guy was probably schizophrenic.
542
00:26:09,793 --> 00:26:12,127
I think he killed himself.
543
00:26:18,901 --> 00:26:21,069
I saw several dead people on my walk,
544
00:26:21,071 --> 00:26:22,270
but the man in black
545
00:26:22,272 --> 00:26:24,572
poses the greatest threat to the living.
546
00:26:24,574 --> 00:26:26,641
I'm meeting with a sketch artist
547
00:26:26,643 --> 00:26:29,144
to describe how he appeared in life.
548
00:26:29,146 --> 00:26:32,314
He was on the thin side,
549
00:26:32,316 --> 00:26:38,220
between 5'10 " and 6'1".
550
00:26:38,222 --> 00:26:42,057
I would say that his features were sharp.
551
00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:46,996
He had a longer nose than usual,
very dark eyes.
552
00:26:51,867 --> 00:26:54,536
Is this who you saw?
553
00:26:54,538 --> 00:26:56,404
Yes.
554
00:27:17,432 --> 00:27:20,100
STEVE: Now that Amy and I
finished our investigations,
555
00:27:20,102 --> 00:27:22,903
it's time to reveal our
findings to our clients
556
00:27:22,905 --> 00:27:25,039
and each other for the first time.
557
00:27:25,041 --> 00:27:28,709
Well, Amy, I'd like you
to meet Tom and Rosanna.
558
00:27:28,711 --> 00:27:31,545
They're a married couple
559
00:27:31,547 --> 00:27:33,680
that own this place and
they actually live here.
560
00:27:33,682 --> 00:27:36,049
Now, you know how most of our
clients can't afford to move out?
561
00:27:36,051 --> 00:27:37,485
They actually can.
562
00:27:37,487 --> 00:27:40,054
I want to show you where they came from.
563
00:27:40,056 --> 00:27:42,289
It's a Malibu beach house.
564
00:27:42,291 --> 00:27:45,592
Problem is, Rosanna's gotten
obsessed with this place.
565
00:27:45,594 --> 00:27:49,130
It's taken over and she refuses to leave.
566
00:27:49,132 --> 00:27:50,931
The activity's bad here
567
00:27:50,933 --> 00:27:52,866
and it's tearing their family apart.
568
00:27:52,868 --> 00:27:54,868
Matter of fact, here's a photo of everybody.
569
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:57,738
They have two daughters... Aisha, Gabriella.
570
00:27:57,740 --> 00:27:59,740
There's Tom and Rosanna.
571
00:27:59,742 --> 00:28:01,742
Aisha actually lives here.
572
00:28:01,744 --> 00:28:04,145
But Gabriella got so fed up
with this place, she left,
573
00:28:04,147 --> 00:28:07,081
went as far away from here as she could.
574
00:28:07,083 --> 00:28:10,317
So, Rosanna wants to know
if it's safe to stay here
575
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:11,385
while the rest of the family
576
00:28:11,387 --> 00:28:12,820
wants you to talk her into leaving.
577
00:28:14,155 --> 00:28:15,355
So, now that Amy knows
578
00:28:15,357 --> 00:28:17,291
a little bit about what's going on,
579
00:28:17,293 --> 00:28:19,593
I'm gonna ask her to tell us about her walk.
580
00:28:22,030 --> 00:28:25,366
AMY: I was overwhelmed walking in.
581
00:28:25,368 --> 00:28:27,568
I got initially
582
00:28:27,570 --> 00:28:32,306
a lot of different types
of residual impressions.
583
00:28:32,308 --> 00:28:36,643
The first one was when I
was on the second floor
584
00:28:36,645 --> 00:28:40,448
and I kind of felt like
a fire had taken place.
585
00:28:40,450 --> 00:28:42,716
I was seeing all the people running,
586
00:28:42,718 --> 00:28:45,986
but I didn't feel like anybody died.
587
00:28:45,988 --> 00:28:48,789
We had a fire in 2005,
588
00:28:48,791 --> 00:28:52,059
and it was on the second and third floor.
589
00:28:52,061 --> 00:28:54,895
It was a serious fire,
but nobody was injured.
590
00:28:54,897 --> 00:28:56,063
Okay.
591
00:28:56,065 --> 00:28:57,531
I actually have a photo of the actual fire
592
00:28:57,533 --> 00:28:58,566
when it was happening.
593
00:28:59,668 --> 00:29:00,968
Wow!
594
00:29:02,737 --> 00:29:04,905
Now, this is the strange part.
595
00:29:04,907 --> 00:29:07,641
They were insured for $1.3 million exactly,
right?
596
00:29:07,643 --> 00:29:10,211
- Mm-hmm.
- It cost exactly $1.3 million to fix that.
597
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:14,247
Now, this is after renovating the place.
598
00:29:14,249 --> 00:29:16,850
They were getting ready to
sell it and then this happened.
599
00:29:16,852 --> 00:29:18,785
Okay. Wow.
600
00:29:22,224 --> 00:29:23,624
The other thing that I got
601
00:29:23,626 --> 00:29:25,292
was when I walked into the lobby.
602
00:29:25,294 --> 00:29:29,596
I saw the floor sinking and,
like, the carpets were wet.
603
00:29:29,598 --> 00:29:34,735
There was water,
and there were several men talking.
604
00:29:34,737 --> 00:29:37,871
One man was saying that if all of this
605
00:29:37,873 --> 00:29:41,642
wasn't cleaned up and fixed,
it would cause a mess.
606
00:29:41,644 --> 00:29:45,546
Another man was saying
he didn't really care,
607
00:29:45,548 --> 00:29:47,715
that he didn't want to waste the money.
608
00:29:47,717 --> 00:29:51,685
It seemed to be a pretty
stressful situation.
609
00:29:51,687 --> 00:29:56,423
Back in 1928, March 12th, to be exact,
610
00:29:56,425 --> 00:29:58,392
St. Francis Dam gave way.
611
00:29:58,394 --> 00:30:01,061
The Glen Tavern itself,
612
00:30:01,063 --> 00:30:03,363
the only damage it received
was the first floor...
613
00:30:03,365 --> 00:30:05,298
water damage.
614
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:06,433
Okay.
615
00:30:06,435 --> 00:30:08,435
The rest of the town got hit really bad.
616
00:30:08,437 --> 00:30:12,138
Now, the dam itself was
35 miles East of here.
617
00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:14,074
But when the dam failed,
618
00:30:14,076 --> 00:30:16,777
12.4 billion gallons of
water came rushing out.
619
00:30:16,779 --> 00:30:20,447
The water got as high as 140 feet,
620
00:30:20,449 --> 00:30:22,650
actually swept its way through this town.
621
00:30:22,652 --> 00:30:24,484
They estimate 500 died,
622
00:30:24,486 --> 00:30:27,253
at least 200 died that lived in Santa Paula.
623
00:30:27,255 --> 00:30:29,523
Now, the other thing is everybody
624
00:30:29,525 --> 00:30:32,559
that survived that flood
wound up in this hotel
625
00:30:32,561 --> 00:30:35,829
at some point, you know, to seek refuge.
626
00:30:35,831 --> 00:30:39,600
Makes sense now. Okay.
627
00:30:42,436 --> 00:30:44,271
What else did you see?
628
00:30:44,273 --> 00:30:48,441
When I was on the second floor,
there was a suicide
629
00:30:48,443 --> 00:30:54,114
I got of a male who seemed
to be schizophrenic.
630
00:30:54,116 --> 00:30:55,749
He was, like, crawling on the ceiling
631
00:30:55,751 --> 00:30:57,484
and he was, like, writing on the walls.
632
00:30:57,486 --> 00:31:01,188
And I got that he hung himself.
633
00:31:01,190 --> 00:31:02,689
[Groans]
634
00:31:02,691 --> 00:31:05,793
Back in 2007, you guys actually
owned the place at the time,
635
00:31:05,795 --> 00:31:08,094
a guy by the name of Henry,
636
00:31:08,096 --> 00:31:11,164
he hung himself in the closet using a belt.
637
00:31:11,166 --> 00:31:14,535
He had, according to the
coroner's report I read,
638
00:31:14,537 --> 00:31:15,736
alcohol abuse.
639
00:31:15,738 --> 00:31:18,238
He'd been drinking heavily.
640
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,474
Why he killed himself, we don't know.
641
00:31:20,476 --> 00:31:22,776
- We remember him very well.
- Yeah, we remember him.
642
00:31:22,778 --> 00:31:25,746
And he was a very nice guy.
643
00:31:25,748 --> 00:31:28,148
What floor did you say this happened?
644
00:31:28,150 --> 00:31:30,316
It's an outside area.
645
00:31:30,318 --> 00:31:31,418
There's like two rooms.
646
00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:33,654
That's correct. That's where it happened.
647
00:31:33,656 --> 00:31:35,522
It's the exact spot where he hung himself.
648
00:31:35,524 --> 00:31:37,758
That's right above our room.
649
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,992
Oh, wow.
650
00:31:38,994 --> 00:31:41,261
I'm surprised that you
found out about Henry.
651
00:31:41,263 --> 00:31:42,696
It was not in the papers.
652
00:31:42,698 --> 00:31:45,098
I get information most people can't.
653
00:31:49,203 --> 00:31:51,204
Anything else?
654
00:31:51,206 --> 00:31:54,875
In several places throughout the hotel,
655
00:31:54,877 --> 00:32:01,248
I would suddenly feel this intense fear.
656
00:32:01,250 --> 00:32:04,551
It would feel like a rock
657
00:32:04,553 --> 00:32:07,154
just fell right into my stomach.
658
00:32:07,156 --> 00:32:09,289
And then I would get really anxious.
659
00:32:09,291 --> 00:32:12,358
I definitely thought that living people
660
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,661
would feel this sensation.
661
00:32:14,663 --> 00:32:17,197
- She feels all those things.
- Mm-hmm.
662
00:32:17,199 --> 00:32:20,534
I get that terrible pit in my stomach
663
00:32:20,536 --> 00:32:22,670
and I don't know what it's coming from.
664
00:32:22,672 --> 00:32:25,138
It's like this horrible thing,
like an impending doom.
665
00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:26,974
Just...
666
00:32:26,976 --> 00:32:28,275
Rosanna, do me favor.
667
00:32:28,277 --> 00:32:30,477
Just explain to Amy about
the dynamics of the family,
668
00:32:30,479 --> 00:32:32,679
how obsessed you really are with this place.
669
00:32:32,681 --> 00:32:35,015
I feel at home. I love this place.
670
00:32:35,017 --> 00:32:39,019
But my family, they don't like
the fact that I love it so much.
671
00:32:39,021 --> 00:32:40,654
They're kind of jealous, I think.
672
00:32:40,656 --> 00:32:43,190
That scares me.
It sounds like you want to stay here forever.
673
00:32:43,192 --> 00:32:45,692
And that sounds strange.
674
00:32:45,694 --> 00:32:47,528
It sounds obsessive.
675
00:32:47,530 --> 00:32:50,397
Our kids had complained ever
since we bought the place
676
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:53,466
that it was causing us to
behave in unnatural ways,
677
00:32:53,468 --> 00:32:56,102
that something seemed to happen to us here.
678
00:32:57,939 --> 00:32:59,840
This is supposed to be temporary.
679
00:32:59,842 --> 00:33:02,375
I like it here.
680
00:33:02,377 --> 00:33:04,311
What can I say?
681
00:33:04,313 --> 00:33:05,979
I love it. It feels like home.
682
00:33:05,981 --> 00:33:07,214
I know. Sorry.
683
00:33:07,216 --> 00:33:09,750
Tell them sorry.
684
00:33:12,419 --> 00:33:14,054
STEVE: Is there a reason she
may have a draw to this place?
685
00:33:14,056 --> 00:33:15,522
Is she like a sensitive, maybe?
686
00:33:15,524 --> 00:33:17,824
Actually, I think she might be
687
00:33:17,826 --> 00:33:19,660
drawn here for a different reason.
688
00:33:19,662 --> 00:33:23,463
Some people,
they'll just be attracted to locations
689
00:33:23,465 --> 00:33:27,100
where they were in previous lives.
690
00:33:27,102 --> 00:33:32,873
They feel this strong pull and
it feels like they're home.
691
00:33:32,875 --> 00:33:34,875
- And they don't know why.
- And they don't know why.
692
00:33:34,877 --> 00:33:37,177
But I've always felt that way.
693
00:33:37,179 --> 00:33:40,080
Why would you come back? Seriously?
694
00:33:40,082 --> 00:33:41,448
Because I like it.
695
00:33:43,317 --> 00:33:45,218
And that's kind of an example
696
00:33:45,220 --> 00:33:48,354
of how those situations can
become kind of unhealthy.
697
00:33:48,356 --> 00:33:51,158
And it's become our life.
698
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,193
It's become kind of all-consuming
699
00:33:53,195 --> 00:33:55,863
for our whole family.
700
00:34:01,269 --> 00:34:05,238
The feelings that you've
had of anger and anxiety
701
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,176
are mostly caused by one entity.
702
00:34:09,178 --> 00:34:12,212
And I met him on the third floor.
703
00:34:12,214 --> 00:34:13,547
Hmm.
704
00:34:13,549 --> 00:34:17,718
One of the rooms up there
is very much his area.
705
00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:19,620
The room was 308.
706
00:34:23,791 --> 00:34:28,328
He'll do whatever it
takes to keep people out.
707
00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:31,965
He very much dislikes women.
708
00:34:31,967 --> 00:34:35,468
You know, like I'm seeing
this woman laying in a bed
709
00:34:35,470 --> 00:34:38,204
and he's pinning her down and he's, like,
710
00:34:38,206 --> 00:34:42,308
punching her across the face.
711
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:45,678
He's not a good person at all.
712
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,514
Now, 308's your most active...
713
00:34:48,516 --> 00:34:49,983
It's one of the most active, yes.
714
00:34:49,985 --> 00:34:51,985
That's where you get most
of your customer complaints.
715
00:34:51,987 --> 00:34:55,522
About two weeks ago, a man came downstairs,
716
00:34:55,524 --> 00:34:57,690
just threw the key on
the front desk and said,
717
00:34:57,692 --> 00:34:59,726
"You guys didn't tell me this was haunted."
718
00:34:59,728 --> 00:35:02,195
He stormed out of here. He was so mad.
719
00:35:03,330 --> 00:35:07,267
She got locked in a
bathroom down here one time.
720
00:35:07,269 --> 00:35:09,069
Explain that to Amy what happened.
721
00:35:09,071 --> 00:35:13,106
I was in a bathroom inside of
a room that has no windows.
722
00:35:13,108 --> 00:35:16,076
As I close the door,
I saw the doorknob move.
723
00:35:16,078 --> 00:35:19,546
And then the doorknob fell to the floor.
724
00:35:19,548 --> 00:35:20,981
Oh, wow.
725
00:35:20,983 --> 00:35:23,349
And I started hitting the door
and screaming louder and louder.
726
00:35:23,351 --> 00:35:25,853
And before you knew it,
I was in complete hysteria.
727
00:35:25,855 --> 00:35:28,755
And then finally,
housekeeper happened to go in that area
728
00:35:28,757 --> 00:35:29,990
and heard me screaming.
729
00:35:29,992 --> 00:35:33,060
It was the scariest time of my life.
730
00:35:34,529 --> 00:35:36,362
Now, is this something that this guy can do?
731
00:35:37,899 --> 00:35:41,902
It's something that he
could and would probably do.
732
00:35:49,477 --> 00:35:52,045
What I was able to get out of him
733
00:35:52,047 --> 00:35:54,281
was that he was a transient.
734
00:35:54,283 --> 00:35:56,717
This was back in the late 1800s.
735
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,989
And he is just a very,
very, very nasty person.
736
00:36:01,991 --> 00:36:05,558
I do believe that this
male was a serial killer.
737
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,862
He killed women, mostly,
and they were prostitutes.
738
00:36:11,398 --> 00:36:14,300
His preferred method was to strangle them,
739
00:36:14,302 --> 00:36:16,436
but occasionally he did
have to shoot people.
740
00:36:16,438 --> 00:36:20,206
Now, I don't know about
anybody killing prostitutes,
741
00:36:20,208 --> 00:36:22,876
but there's one guy that I
came across during research
742
00:36:22,878 --> 00:36:26,013
that might have fit the bill,
especially the time frame...
743
00:36:26,015 --> 00:36:27,647
the traveling, killing people.
744
00:36:27,649 --> 00:36:28,882
It's a guy, Joe Dye.
745
00:36:28,884 --> 00:36:31,217
Not a good guy.
746
00:36:31,219 --> 00:36:33,886
He killed a boss of his in Los Angeles.
747
00:36:33,888 --> 00:36:35,922
He actually killed another rival's dog
748
00:36:35,924 --> 00:36:37,758
to let him know he meant business.
749
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,592
- He shot and killed a dog.
- Oh.
750
00:36:39,594 --> 00:36:42,129
Apparently, he had notches on his gun
for the amount of people he killed.
751
00:36:43,331 --> 00:36:46,199
- Well, you mentioned he hated women, too.
- Mm-hmm.
752
00:36:46,201 --> 00:36:49,836
Back in 1886, he was married
to a very beautiful girl
753
00:36:49,838 --> 00:36:51,338
here in Santa Paula on a ranch
754
00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:53,373
and he used to go away a lot for work.
755
00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:56,143
When he came back on one trip,
756
00:36:56,145 --> 00:36:58,211
he had heard that this one guy,
Herman Haines,
757
00:36:58,213 --> 00:36:59,813
might be taking up with his wife.
758
00:36:59,815 --> 00:37:02,348
Joe Dye, about a half a block from here,
759
00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:03,649
put a bullet in his back
760
00:37:03,651 --> 00:37:06,219
and the guy lived for
three days and then died.
761
00:37:06,221 --> 00:37:08,789
I got a photo of him.
762
00:37:08,791 --> 00:37:12,125
- He's a crazy-looking guy.
- Ew!
763
00:37:12,127 --> 00:37:13,927
[Chuckles]
764
00:37:13,929 --> 00:37:15,996
- Those eyes.
- Wow.
765
00:37:18,332 --> 00:37:21,201
Now, do you think this is
the guy you might have seen?
766
00:37:21,203 --> 00:37:22,970
I don't know.
You can look at the sketch and tell me.
767
00:37:27,975 --> 00:37:29,509
Take a look. I mean...
768
00:37:31,846 --> 00:37:32,846
Hmm.
769
00:37:36,184 --> 00:37:38,351
They don't look like the same person.
770
00:37:40,354 --> 00:37:43,123
STEVE: I don't know about that.
771
00:37:43,125 --> 00:37:45,392
If you put a beard on him...
772
00:37:45,394 --> 00:37:47,327
Oh, yeah. Maybe.
773
00:37:50,764 --> 00:37:52,399
Well, whoever this guy was,
774
00:37:52,401 --> 00:37:54,567
what does he want with these guys?
775
00:37:54,569 --> 00:37:59,873
What he wants is to continue
being the way he was in life.
776
00:37:59,875 --> 00:38:02,675
So, he wants to kill women, really.
777
00:38:05,479 --> 00:38:07,748
What do you think about all this?
778
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:10,817
I do know that there is something here,
779
00:38:10,819 --> 00:38:13,053
but I also feel that there's
a lot of protection...
780
00:38:13,055 --> 00:38:14,554
a lot of good.
781
00:38:14,556 --> 00:38:16,556
And if there is bad entities,
782
00:38:16,558 --> 00:38:18,891
I'm sure that the good
ones will knock them out.
783
00:38:18,893 --> 00:38:21,661
You think as long as you
respect the building,
784
00:38:21,663 --> 00:38:24,231
it's gonna treat you well and protect you?
785
00:38:24,233 --> 00:38:27,834
Oh, no, no.
786
00:38:27,836 --> 00:38:29,502
Mnh-mnh.
787
00:38:46,037 --> 00:38:49,507
You think as long as you
respect the building,
788
00:38:49,509 --> 00:38:51,576
that it's gonna treat
you well and protect you?
789
00:38:51,578 --> 00:38:55,179
AMY: Oh, no, no.
790
00:38:55,181 --> 00:38:56,981
Mnh-mnh.
791
00:39:06,091 --> 00:39:07,513
I do have more compassion
792
00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:09,480
for what my daughters are saying.
793
00:39:09,482 --> 00:39:13,650
I think Gabriella would be very
happy to hear you say that.
794
00:39:13,652 --> 00:39:15,653
I think you're right.
795
00:39:18,723 --> 00:39:21,158
I know that you're right.
796
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,609
Well, you know what?
797
00:39:22,709 --> 00:39:24,409
We know what's going on in the hotel.
798
00:39:24,411 --> 00:39:25,676
But the big question remains,
799
00:39:25,678 --> 00:39:27,612
is it healthy or safe for you to stay here?
800
00:39:27,614 --> 00:39:29,247
Or do you need to leave?
801
00:39:29,249 --> 00:39:30,415
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
802
00:39:33,485 --> 00:39:35,954
I do think that you had a past life here.
803
00:39:35,956 --> 00:39:38,724
You have a connection here
804
00:39:38,726 --> 00:39:42,493
and, unfortunately, in this situation,
805
00:39:42,495 --> 00:39:45,230
you have deceased individuals here
806
00:39:45,232 --> 00:39:47,733
who have a connection with you, as well.
807
00:39:47,735 --> 00:39:50,301
And they're going to try to keep you here
808
00:39:50,303 --> 00:39:52,770
and manipulate you and blind you
809
00:39:52,772 --> 00:39:55,773
and bring that other person that they knew
810
00:39:55,775 --> 00:39:58,276
more and more to life in the present day.
811
00:39:58,278 --> 00:40:02,748
But that was then and
that was another lifetime.
812
00:40:02,750 --> 00:40:05,583
And this is now and this is your life now.
813
00:40:05,585 --> 00:40:10,188
And you need to move forward, not backwards.
814
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:15,360
So, what I would like you to
do is bring in five mediums.
815
00:40:15,362 --> 00:40:20,966
And there are three types of mediums.
816
00:40:20,968 --> 00:40:23,835
And I would like one of
each of them to be present.
817
00:40:23,837 --> 00:40:25,836
So, there's a mental medium,
818
00:40:25,838 --> 00:40:28,473
a physical medium, and a psychic medium.
819
00:40:28,475 --> 00:40:31,609
The other two can be of any discipline.
820
00:40:31,611 --> 00:40:35,112
So, they would do two things...
clear the residual energy
821
00:40:35,114 --> 00:40:37,715
from this place and also move on
822
00:40:37,717 --> 00:40:40,985
as many of the deceased people as they can.
823
00:40:40,987 --> 00:40:45,790
Following that, you should really consider
824
00:40:45,792 --> 00:40:48,426
selling this place and walking away.
825
00:40:48,428 --> 00:40:51,429
The dead are going to be whispering,
826
00:40:51,431 --> 00:40:53,364
"Don't leave, don't leave, don't leave,"
827
00:40:53,366 --> 00:40:55,967
and try to change your mind.
828
00:40:55,969 --> 00:40:57,769
Will they let me go?
829
00:40:57,771 --> 00:41:00,172
It's about you letting them go
and letting this building go.
830
00:41:00,174 --> 00:41:04,009
Keep that in your head as a mantra,
you know,
831
00:41:04,011 --> 00:41:06,278
"I'm leaving, I'm leaving, I'm leaving.
832
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,079
"You're not gonna ruin my marriage,
833
00:41:08,081 --> 00:41:10,382
"not gonna ruin my
relationships with my family.
834
00:41:10,384 --> 00:41:11,983
This is my fricking life now."
835
00:41:11,985 --> 00:41:13,751
I can see the possibilities
836
00:41:13,753 --> 00:41:16,154
and I could see where I possibly can go.
837
00:41:16,156 --> 00:41:18,990
But I'm torn because it's
like there's two people
838
00:41:18,992 --> 00:41:21,326
and I feel that other
force coming within me,
839
00:41:21,328 --> 00:41:22,994
like, saying, "No," you know?
840
00:41:22,996 --> 00:41:25,063
That my identity is here.
841
00:41:25,065 --> 00:41:28,066
I do believe that I can do it,
but it's gonna take a process.
842
00:41:28,068 --> 00:41:30,735
There's too much wiggle
room in that approach.
843
00:41:30,737 --> 00:41:32,570
You just have to make a decision.
844
00:41:32,572 --> 00:41:35,039
STEVE: Let's say she moves everybody out
845
00:41:35,041 --> 00:41:36,641
and she doesn't leave here.
846
00:41:36,643 --> 00:41:39,977
Is her past life gonna consume her?
847
00:41:39,979 --> 00:41:40,978
Yes.
848
00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:42,747
I can see that happening, yeah.
849
00:41:42,749 --> 00:41:46,251
I'm making myself and my family stuck,
you know?
850
00:41:46,253 --> 00:41:48,886
Because it is so beautiful and it...
851
00:41:48,888 --> 00:41:50,355
Let someone else take care of it.
852
00:41:50,357 --> 00:41:53,057
You've done your time.
853
00:41:53,059 --> 00:41:55,560
AMY: I really hope Rosanna follows my advice
854
00:41:55,562 --> 00:41:58,129
and leaves her past life
in the hotel behind.
855
00:41:58,131 --> 00:42:01,166
I believe if she does that
and embraces the present,
856
00:42:01,168 --> 00:42:02,901
she and her family will be free
857
00:42:02,903 --> 00:42:04,969
of the obsession tearing them apart.
858
00:42:05,019 --> 00:42:09,569
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