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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,817 --> 00:00:14,187 Those creatures are here. 2 00:00:14,421 --> 00:00:16,413 They can take your soul. 3 00:00:16,513 --> 00:00:18,154 It was a man, but he didn't look human. 4 00:00:18,156 --> 00:00:19,761 That had to scare the [bleep] out of you. 5 00:00:19,763 --> 00:00:22,133 They have, like, pointed ears, sharp teeth. 6 00:00:22,135 --> 00:00:24,036 Seems like she's possessed sometimes. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,833 A lot of [bleep] pain in this room. 8 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:30,218 I live in constant fear we're being haunted. 9 00:00:30,220 --> 00:00:34,193 What is going on here? 10 00:00:34,374 --> 00:00:36,569 "You're mine. You can't escape." 11 00:00:36,569 --> 00:00:39,740 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:39,807 --> 00:00:40,643 [Crying] What's happening? 13 00:00:40,817 --> 00:00:43,046 I see dead people. 14 00:00:43,048 --> 00:00:45,089 It seems like a devil. 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,028 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:47,128 --> 00:00:48,550 He's pissed off. 17 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:50,182 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:50,282 --> 00:00:52,001 I felt real fear. 19 00:00:52,201 --> 00:00:55,412 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:55,414 --> 00:00:56,687 I think she's being murdered. 21 00:00:56,787 --> 00:00:58,623 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:58,623 --> 00:01:00,192 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:00,194 --> 00:01:02,196 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:02,298 --> 00:01:03,904 Serial killer pops in my head. 25 00:01:03,946 --> 00:01:07,608 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:07,610 --> 00:01:08,810 Nobody believes me. 27 00:01:08,812 --> 00:01:10,278 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,056 - Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do. 29 00:01:12,122 --> 00:01:13,590 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:13,690 --> 00:01:15,831 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,535 Until the very end. 32 00:01:17,537 --> 00:01:19,091 You got problems. I got news for you. 33 00:01:19,107 --> 00:01:21,314 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:21,516 --> 00:01:22,885 This is our house... whether they like it or not. 35 00:01:22,918 --> 00:01:24,823 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:24,923 --> 00:01:27,366 This is their house, the house of the dead. 37 00:01:27,683 --> 00:01:32,118 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 38 00:01:46,633 --> 00:01:49,405 I'm in the heart of the rust belt... Toledo, Ohio. 39 00:01:49,407 --> 00:01:52,543 I'm heading over to meet with a woman named Angie. 40 00:01:52,545 --> 00:01:55,784 She says everyone in the family's being affected. 41 00:01:55,786 --> 00:02:00,024 They're being pushed, scratched, burnt, and even molested. 42 00:02:00,026 --> 00:02:02,497 When I heard this on the phone, I got upset. 43 00:02:02,499 --> 00:02:04,099 And I'm really hoping we can help her out. 44 00:02:13,114 --> 00:02:15,148 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 45 00:02:15,150 --> 00:02:18,918 I look for any leading information. 46 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:22,790 This house is filled with photos and religious symbols. 47 00:02:22,792 --> 00:02:25,061 Once they're covered or removed, 48 00:02:25,063 --> 00:02:27,831 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 49 00:02:44,728 --> 00:02:46,829 AMY: What the hell? 50 00:02:50,068 --> 00:02:52,770 There's a male here who... 51 00:02:52,772 --> 00:02:57,044 knows how it used to be and is disturbed, 52 00:02:57,046 --> 00:03:01,214 so he's very much functioning in that reality, 53 00:03:01,216 --> 00:03:02,582 and he's angry. 54 00:03:02,584 --> 00:03:03,982 He's [bleep] pissed. 55 00:03:03,984 --> 00:03:06,384 There's something wrong with his head. 56 00:03:07,755 --> 00:03:09,956 [Inhales deeply] Mm. 57 00:03:09,958 --> 00:03:13,591 The head pain is so bad. 58 00:03:25,773 --> 00:03:27,608 STEVE: So, Angie, I'm glad I'm here 59 00:03:27,610 --> 00:03:29,844 'cause you sounded pretty upset on the phone. 60 00:03:29,846 --> 00:03:32,212 So, just give me an idea of what's happening. 61 00:03:32,214 --> 00:03:34,584 - ANGIE: We've been here about 12 years. - Okay. 62 00:03:34,586 --> 00:03:37,355 Shortly after we moved in is when the activity started. 63 00:03:37,357 --> 00:03:40,854 At first, it just started out as noises. 64 00:03:40,856 --> 00:03:44,056 It increased to apparitions. 65 00:03:44,058 --> 00:03:47,256 It's getting now to the point where it's getting violent. 66 00:03:47,258 --> 00:03:50,825 We've had a couple of episodes where we've been burned. 67 00:03:50,827 --> 00:03:53,761 We've been scratched, 68 00:03:53,763 --> 00:03:55,761 we've been pushed, we've been shoved. 69 00:03:55,763 --> 00:03:58,595 I live in constant fear here. 70 00:03:58,597 --> 00:03:59,864 Who do you live here with? 71 00:03:59,866 --> 00:04:01,699 I live here with my partner, Leslie, 72 00:04:01,701 --> 00:04:03,100 my daughter, Maggie, 73 00:04:03,102 --> 00:04:06,372 and my 2-year-old grandson, Nathan. 74 00:04:06,374 --> 00:04:08,676 Oh, he's precious. 75 00:04:08,678 --> 00:04:11,879 It seems like it got worse after he was born. 76 00:04:14,052 --> 00:04:16,186 - Is he being affected by this? - He is. 77 00:04:16,188 --> 00:04:18,821 We were sitting in the living room, watching TV. 78 00:04:18,823 --> 00:04:21,661 He was sitting on the floor, playing with his toys, 79 00:04:21,663 --> 00:04:24,495 and we seen him literally lift up off the ground 80 00:04:24,497 --> 00:04:26,463 and was shoved a good foot and a half. 81 00:04:26,465 --> 00:04:29,503 I fear greatly for him 82 00:04:29,505 --> 00:04:32,239 because he's unable to protect himself, 83 00:04:32,241 --> 00:04:34,641 and I feel like we can't protect him, either. 84 00:04:34,643 --> 00:04:37,780 - Why don't you just move? - We're into it financially. 85 00:04:37,782 --> 00:04:40,016 We put all of our money into buying this home, 86 00:04:40,018 --> 00:04:42,183 and we can't afford to move. 87 00:04:42,185 --> 00:04:44,317 Do you know any history of the house at all? 88 00:04:44,319 --> 00:04:45,384 Me, personally, no. 89 00:04:45,386 --> 00:04:47,520 I don't know any history of the house. 90 00:04:47,522 --> 00:04:49,654 Have you ever had paranormal activity 91 00:04:49,656 --> 00:04:51,824 - prior to moving into this house? - Never. 92 00:04:51,826 --> 00:04:54,324 - I was never a believer. - What about now? 93 00:04:54,326 --> 00:04:56,890 [Sighs] I believe it wholeheartedly. 94 00:04:56,892 --> 00:04:58,258 We're being haunted. 95 00:05:03,229 --> 00:05:05,963 AMY: There's something here, 96 00:05:05,965 --> 00:05:07,766 and it came in through the front door. 97 00:05:11,534 --> 00:05:15,033 These things... they look like little [bleep] demons, 98 00:05:15,035 --> 00:05:17,502 and they're getting too out of hand. 99 00:05:18,704 --> 00:05:22,039 That's what this older dude was saying. 100 00:05:22,041 --> 00:05:25,574 And he says, "I can't handle that. 101 00:05:25,576 --> 00:05:27,607 "I can't get involved in that. 102 00:05:27,609 --> 00:05:29,940 I can't do anything about that." 103 00:05:29,942 --> 00:05:34,244 Things have just gotten too bad. 104 00:05:34,246 --> 00:05:36,478 He can't fight anymore because they're gonna get him. 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,814 They can take your soul. 106 00:05:39,310 --> 00:05:41,710 _ 107 00:05:48,063 --> 00:05:50,898 STEVE: Okay, what's going on in here? 108 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:53,334 I've seen various apparitions in here. 109 00:05:53,336 --> 00:05:56,269 There was an older gentleman I seen in here, 110 00:05:56,271 --> 00:05:58,036 wearing kind of like a suit. 111 00:05:58,038 --> 00:05:59,470 Grayish hair. 112 00:05:59,472 --> 00:06:02,173 He startles me at first, but he doesn't seem threatening. 113 00:06:02,175 --> 00:06:04,043 Okay, what time period do you think he's from? 114 00:06:04,045 --> 00:06:07,277 I would say early 1900s. 115 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,715 If you saw a photo, would you be able to identify him? 116 00:06:09,717 --> 00:06:11,250 I would. 117 00:06:11,252 --> 00:06:12,417 Now, what else are you seeing in here? 118 00:06:12,419 --> 00:06:14,253 One time in the stairwell, 119 00:06:14,255 --> 00:06:18,025 there was an apparition of a little boy. 120 00:06:18,027 --> 00:06:19,327 Can you describe him? 121 00:06:19,329 --> 00:06:21,630 He appeared to have been in a fire. 122 00:06:21,632 --> 00:06:24,566 He had a burnt face, burnt arms. 123 00:06:24,568 --> 00:06:27,770 Angie, I got to do my due diligence and ask 124 00:06:27,772 --> 00:06:29,672 questions you're not gonna like, but... 125 00:06:29,674 --> 00:06:32,574 Okay. Medications? Alcohol abuse? 126 00:06:32,576 --> 00:06:34,277 Anything that may cause you to hallucinate 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,144 and see these things? 128 00:06:35,146 --> 00:06:36,578 No, sir. 129 00:06:36,580 --> 00:06:39,710 - I seen one other one. - What's that? 130 00:06:39,712 --> 00:06:42,412 This one bothers me 'cause it really scared me. 131 00:06:42,414 --> 00:06:44,778 [Sighs] 132 00:06:46,281 --> 00:06:48,750 It was a man, but he didn't look human. 133 00:06:48,752 --> 00:06:51,021 He was in the mirror. 134 00:06:51,023 --> 00:06:54,589 He had two horns off the top of his head. 135 00:06:54,591 --> 00:06:56,723 Big teeth. 136 00:06:56,725 --> 00:06:58,258 I would say at least 6 foot, 137 00:06:58,260 --> 00:07:01,794 and I seen him kind of let out a growl, 138 00:07:01,796 --> 00:07:03,665 and it came right at me. 139 00:07:03,667 --> 00:07:05,765 "Foof," right through me, 140 00:07:05,767 --> 00:07:08,602 and I immediately broke out into tears, 141 00:07:08,604 --> 00:07:10,470 felt like I was gonna faint. 142 00:07:10,472 --> 00:07:12,138 I was sick to my stomach. 143 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:14,040 - That had to scare the [bleep] out of you. - It did. 144 00:07:14,042 --> 00:07:15,241 All I can tell you, Steve, 145 00:07:15,243 --> 00:07:17,311 it was the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life. 146 00:07:21,652 --> 00:07:27,821 Those demons... they are very [bleep] weird-looking. 147 00:07:27,823 --> 00:07:30,558 They kind of have, like, bat faces. 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,693 They have, like, pointed ears, big eyes, 149 00:07:34,695 --> 00:07:39,133 sharp teeth, kind of centered on this female. 150 00:07:44,678 --> 00:07:46,778 Okay, what's going on in here? 151 00:07:46,780 --> 00:07:49,014 I've had things move around in the room. 152 00:07:49,016 --> 00:07:51,787 I've had my glasses moved. 153 00:07:51,789 --> 00:07:54,256 You sure it's not your grandson maybe playing games 154 00:07:54,258 --> 00:07:55,458 or just moving stuff on you? 155 00:07:55,460 --> 00:07:56,493 Probably not. 156 00:07:56,495 --> 00:07:59,630 He's two, and most of it's up high... 157 00:07:59,632 --> 00:08:02,567 the stuff that's moved... and I put my glasses up high, 158 00:08:02,569 --> 00:08:04,669 - so no, it's not him. - All right. 159 00:08:04,671 --> 00:08:06,104 Anything else? 160 00:08:06,106 --> 00:08:08,472 I was laying in bed, sleeping one night, 161 00:08:08,474 --> 00:08:13,240 and I had a physical presence come over me. 162 00:08:13,242 --> 00:08:15,441 I felt like I was being pinned to the bed. 163 00:08:15,443 --> 00:08:21,678 My shirt was pulled up around my chest area. 164 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,213 - Okay. - I felt like I was being 165 00:08:23,215 --> 00:08:25,619 physically assaulted at the moment. 166 00:08:25,621 --> 00:08:26,853 Talking about sexually assaulted? 167 00:08:26,855 --> 00:08:28,886 Yes, sir. 168 00:08:28,888 --> 00:08:33,960 I just remember feeling... violated. 169 00:08:33,962 --> 00:08:35,260 I was just crying. 170 00:08:35,262 --> 00:08:37,496 Okay. So, how long did it last? 171 00:08:37,498 --> 00:08:39,600 It seemed like it lasted forever, 172 00:08:39,602 --> 00:08:42,304 but I started praying, 173 00:08:42,306 --> 00:08:44,436 and within a couple of minutes, it stopped. 174 00:08:49,313 --> 00:08:52,252 [Singsong voice] There's a lot of things 175 00:08:52,254 --> 00:08:53,889 that went on up here. 176 00:09:02,897 --> 00:09:04,830 There's, like, panic. 177 00:09:04,832 --> 00:09:06,599 Oh, geez. 178 00:09:06,601 --> 00:09:08,236 Uh... 179 00:09:08,238 --> 00:09:11,375 Oh. 180 00:09:11,377 --> 00:09:14,679 I am seeing a woman. 181 00:09:14,681 --> 00:09:18,745 She's being... 182 00:09:18,747 --> 00:09:23,450 physically attacked by nothing... like, dragged. 183 00:09:23,452 --> 00:09:27,120 What the [bleep] is going on here? 184 00:09:28,490 --> 00:09:31,292 She's not the only one. 185 00:09:34,529 --> 00:09:36,600 Holy [bleep] 186 00:09:39,103 --> 00:09:42,304 This is, like, one of the worst rooms. 187 00:09:42,306 --> 00:09:44,006 Why? 188 00:09:44,008 --> 00:09:45,910 There's definitely an agent here 189 00:09:45,912 --> 00:09:48,915 who's [bleep] very unhappy 190 00:09:48,917 --> 00:09:54,087 and not stable and lashing out. 191 00:09:57,862 --> 00:09:59,796 It's a poltergeist. 192 00:10:23,133 --> 00:10:25,437 STEVE: Maggie, I was talking to your mom, 193 00:10:25,439 --> 00:10:27,706 and she was telling me about everything that's going on in the house. 194 00:10:27,708 --> 00:10:29,243 Mm-hmm. 195 00:10:29,245 --> 00:10:30,779 - Now, this is your son's room? - Yes. 196 00:10:30,781 --> 00:10:32,982 Apparently, your mom said she actually saw him 197 00:10:32,984 --> 00:10:35,916 get picked up and kind of thrown or pushed. 198 00:10:35,918 --> 00:10:37,617 Yeah, it has happened. 199 00:10:37,619 --> 00:10:39,087 He was playing in his room. 200 00:10:39,089 --> 00:10:42,356 I was cleaning up, and I heard him hit the ground, 201 00:10:42,358 --> 00:10:45,629 and when I came into his room, he was flat on his back, 202 00:10:45,631 --> 00:10:47,531 and his face was bloodshot red. 203 00:10:47,533 --> 00:10:50,931 - Now, was there anything he could have jumped off of? - No. 204 00:10:50,933 --> 00:10:53,168 He wasn't climbing on anything. He didn't trip over anything. 205 00:10:53,170 --> 00:10:56,738 As a mother, I know his cries, 206 00:10:56,740 --> 00:10:58,938 and it was definitely something I've never heard before. 207 00:10:58,940 --> 00:11:00,638 Okay, so, this was a terrifying cry? 208 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,677 Yeah, this was... he wanted to get out of here. 209 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,580 Something scared him. 210 00:11:06,582 --> 00:11:08,614 Okay, anything else going on up here? 211 00:11:08,616 --> 00:11:09,614 Yeah, actually. 212 00:11:09,616 --> 00:11:11,380 One day, it was just me and him here, 213 00:11:11,382 --> 00:11:13,583 and I came up to check on him, 214 00:11:13,585 --> 00:11:15,450 and he was leaning out of his window, 215 00:11:15,452 --> 00:11:18,687 throwing his toys out, and this window's never unlocked. 216 00:11:18,689 --> 00:11:20,757 There's no way he could unlock the window. 217 00:11:20,759 --> 00:11:23,160 He can't open doors, like doorknobs. 218 00:11:23,162 --> 00:11:27,899 I got really scared because he could have easily fallen out. 219 00:11:27,901 --> 00:11:30,067 - You said it's always locked? - It's locked right now. 220 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:32,237 So, who would have unlocked it? 221 00:11:32,239 --> 00:11:35,509 It's only me and him here, and I definitely didn't do it. 222 00:11:35,511 --> 00:11:38,845 - But it was closed when you last saw it? - Oh, yeah. 223 00:11:38,847 --> 00:11:42,185 And there was nobody else around? 224 00:11:42,187 --> 00:11:44,055 Nope. 225 00:11:44,057 --> 00:11:47,659 That's a problem. 226 00:11:55,334 --> 00:11:57,505 AMY: This is not good. 227 00:12:01,809 --> 00:12:04,144 There might be someone here, 228 00:12:04,146 --> 00:12:07,846 at a very [bleep] young age, 229 00:12:07,848 --> 00:12:10,648 figured out that they were capable 230 00:12:10,650 --> 00:12:12,582 of manipulating their environment, 231 00:12:12,584 --> 00:12:16,051 and those are why those creatures are here. 232 00:12:19,421 --> 00:12:22,688 There's a relationship there 233 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:25,823 between this thing and this living person. 234 00:12:25,825 --> 00:12:28,894 The older man was trying to stop this, 235 00:12:28,896 --> 00:12:32,364 then it changed, and now there's more. 236 00:12:32,366 --> 00:12:34,032 There's more of them. 237 00:12:43,843 --> 00:12:46,247 Leslie, I was talking to your partner, Angie, 238 00:12:46,249 --> 00:12:48,348 and I spoke to her daughter, Maggie, 239 00:12:48,350 --> 00:12:50,115 they seemed pretty upset 240 00:12:50,117 --> 00:12:51,682 - about the things that are happening here. - LESLIE: Yes. 241 00:12:51,684 --> 00:12:53,617 - I mean, she's your partner. - Yes. 242 00:12:53,619 --> 00:12:56,386 - I mean, she looks like she's taking it hard. - Yeah, she does. 243 00:12:56,388 --> 00:12:58,189 Hard on her and makes it hard on me 244 00:12:58,191 --> 00:13:00,492 - to watch her go through some of the stuff. - Right. 245 00:13:00,494 --> 00:13:04,227 The fighting, and, just... it's hard. 246 00:13:04,229 --> 00:13:06,493 - The mood swings. - Especially Maggie. 247 00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:07,728 Nothing. 248 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:10,498 I swear, it seems like she's possessed sometimes... 249 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:13,737 just angry and mean and hateful she gets. 250 00:13:13,739 --> 00:13:15,306 I don't like the drama. 251 00:13:15,308 --> 00:13:18,341 Just want everything to go back to normal. 252 00:13:18,343 --> 00:13:20,677 Well, that brings me to a question I have for you. 253 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,681 I mean, everybody's experienced something. 254 00:13:22,683 --> 00:13:23,917 - Have you? - Yes, I have. 255 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:25,418 Okay, like what? 256 00:13:25,420 --> 00:13:27,854 My cross on my neck got ripped off 257 00:13:27,856 --> 00:13:30,054 and thrown across the floor. 258 00:13:30,056 --> 00:13:32,790 - You mean, you had a necklace? - Yes. 259 00:13:32,792 --> 00:13:34,356 And it ripped off your chest? 260 00:13:34,358 --> 00:13:35,690 Ripped off. Yes. Broke. 261 00:13:36,993 --> 00:13:39,793 Thrown across the hardwood floor and slid. 262 00:13:39,795 --> 00:13:42,957 That's... 263 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:45,327 It was strange. 264 00:13:45,329 --> 00:13:47,129 - Strange? It's a little bit scary. - Yeah. 265 00:13:47,131 --> 00:13:48,732 - Was anybody else home? - No. 266 00:13:49,833 --> 00:13:51,465 So, what did you end up doing when that happened? 267 00:13:51,467 --> 00:13:53,533 - Did you get your cross again? - Yeah, I sure did. 268 00:13:53,535 --> 00:13:55,401 I picked it back up, and I said, "You think you broke it? 269 00:13:55,403 --> 00:13:57,870 You didn't 'cause I got another clasp I can put it on," 270 00:13:57,872 --> 00:13:59,672 and I stuck it back on another one. 271 00:13:59,674 --> 00:14:01,173 I don't know what my partner's gonna say. 272 00:14:01,175 --> 00:14:03,043 She may tell you that whatever's here, you can't fix. 273 00:14:03,045 --> 00:14:04,415 You got to get the hell out of here. 274 00:14:04,417 --> 00:14:05,885 I mean, how would you feel about that? 275 00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:07,318 I'd probably get the hell out of here. 276 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,153 - You would? - Mm-hmm. 277 00:14:13,291 --> 00:14:14,859 There's the battle. 278 00:14:14,861 --> 00:14:16,925 There's this [bleep] battle going on 279 00:14:16,927 --> 00:14:20,397 between the living and these things. 280 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:22,230 Do you know what these things are? 281 00:14:22,232 --> 00:14:24,299 I don't believe they were ever alive. 282 00:14:24,301 --> 00:14:27,538 I guess you would call them, like, some kind of demons. 283 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:30,041 They're kept out. 284 00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:34,978 They can be kept at bay because they respond to religion, 285 00:14:34,980 --> 00:14:38,715 but it doesn't matter because the poltergeist is always here. 286 00:14:44,087 --> 00:14:46,020 There's a lot of pain in this room. 287 00:14:46,022 --> 00:14:48,823 A lot of [bleep] pain in this room. 288 00:14:48,825 --> 00:14:53,325 The living... they're fighting, 289 00:14:53,327 --> 00:14:56,160 and they're crying, and it never stops. 290 00:14:56,162 --> 00:14:59,631 These people... what they're doing to each other, it's awful. 291 00:14:59,633 --> 00:15:01,432 I can't stand it anymore. 292 00:15:01,434 --> 00:15:03,500 Would you say it's dangerous for the living to be here? 293 00:15:03,502 --> 00:15:05,301 The house isn't the issue. 294 00:15:05,303 --> 00:15:06,434 What is? 295 00:15:06,436 --> 00:15:08,671 They are. 296 00:15:08,673 --> 00:15:10,175 They who? 297 00:15:10,177 --> 00:15:11,977 The living people. 298 00:15:24,848 --> 00:15:27,017 STEVE: Angie didn't know any history about her home, 299 00:15:27,019 --> 00:15:28,586 so I made a few calls. 300 00:15:28,588 --> 00:15:30,955 And a retired homicide detective tells me 301 00:15:30,957 --> 00:15:32,957 a famous criminal used to live there. 302 00:15:32,959 --> 00:15:35,359 He did some research into it for me, 303 00:15:35,361 --> 00:15:37,094 and he found some information he says 304 00:15:37,096 --> 00:15:38,863 will definitely help my investigation. 305 00:15:48,237 --> 00:15:50,005 Well, Bob, thanks for meeting me. 306 00:15:50,007 --> 00:15:51,505 - I appreciate it. - BOB: Sure. 307 00:15:51,507 --> 00:15:54,072 Now, you mentioned on the phone there was an actual criminal 308 00:15:54,074 --> 00:15:55,871 that lived in the property I'm investigating. 309 00:15:55,873 --> 00:15:57,272 Right. Yes, there was. 310 00:15:57,274 --> 00:16:00,510 Clarence Brown had moved into that home with his family. 311 00:16:00,512 --> 00:16:02,311 He was young. 312 00:16:02,313 --> 00:16:04,813 He was 17 at the time in 1930. 313 00:16:04,815 --> 00:16:07,982 Of course, the Depression hit the family real bad, 314 00:16:07,984 --> 00:16:10,820 and they lost most of everything they had, 315 00:16:10,822 --> 00:16:14,159 even though they had had a lucrative printing business. 316 00:16:14,161 --> 00:16:16,293 Clarence especially took it pretty hard. 317 00:16:16,295 --> 00:16:17,993 He didn't think the government 318 00:16:17,995 --> 00:16:20,627 put enough money into the local economy, 319 00:16:20,629 --> 00:16:23,231 and he was gonna do his part to help out, 320 00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:27,467 and he got this idea about counterfeiting bills. 321 00:16:27,469 --> 00:16:29,602 He kind of felt like he was a Robin Hood. 322 00:16:29,604 --> 00:16:31,238 Here's a picture of him. 323 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,441 He was just a clean-cut, ordinary-looking kid, you know. 324 00:16:34,443 --> 00:16:38,178 Now, was he operating out of the house I'm investigating? 325 00:16:38,180 --> 00:16:39,747 He operated out of the house, and then, I guess, 326 00:16:39,749 --> 00:16:43,117 part of it moved over to the family printing business 327 00:16:43,119 --> 00:16:45,222 across the river on Huron Street. 328 00:16:45,224 --> 00:16:47,057 How big of an operation are we talking about? 329 00:16:47,059 --> 00:16:48,757 Well, they got to the point 330 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:50,792 of being considered international. 331 00:16:50,794 --> 00:16:54,529 There was a lot of their money showing up in Indiana, 332 00:16:54,531 --> 00:16:56,464 Michigan, the surrounding states, 333 00:16:56,466 --> 00:16:59,236 Illinois, even into Windsor, Canada. 334 00:16:59,238 --> 00:17:02,407 - So, who was all involved? Was it just this guy, Clarence? - Well, no. 335 00:17:02,409 --> 00:17:05,244 Clarence and Sherman, his dad, and his brother, 336 00:17:05,246 --> 00:17:06,379 and two other associates. 337 00:17:06,381 --> 00:17:07,882 Okay, so, he basically ran it. 338 00:17:07,884 --> 00:17:10,452 - Yes, he did. - So, what happens next? 339 00:17:10,454 --> 00:17:13,821 Eventually, he got caught. They were busted in 1935. 340 00:17:13,823 --> 00:17:17,529 They raided the Huron Street plant 341 00:17:17,531 --> 00:17:20,897 and seized probably $20,000 there 342 00:17:20,899 --> 00:17:22,831 - and a bunch of equipment. - Okay. 343 00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:24,231 That led them over to 344 00:17:24,233 --> 00:17:27,065 the house that you're looking into on east side. 345 00:17:27,067 --> 00:17:30,099 Got another 6 grand there and a lot of equipment. 346 00:17:30,101 --> 00:17:32,036 A lot of money back then. That's a lot of money today. 347 00:17:32,038 --> 00:17:35,568 Yeah, in today's figures, it would be about $340,000. 348 00:17:35,570 --> 00:17:38,940 Now, when all is said and done, how many people got arrested? 349 00:17:38,942 --> 00:17:40,474 There were five total, yes. 350 00:17:40,476 --> 00:17:43,545 It was Clarence; his father, Sherman; 351 00:17:43,547 --> 00:17:46,382 brother Louis; and two other associates. 352 00:17:46,384 --> 00:17:49,648 But when it came to trial, according to this article here, 353 00:17:49,650 --> 00:17:52,985 Clarence took the heat for the entire family 354 00:17:52,987 --> 00:17:55,557 and got a 3 1/2-year sentence, 355 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:57,393 and he did about 2 1/2 years. 356 00:18:01,701 --> 00:18:04,103 AMY: The older male, 357 00:18:04,105 --> 00:18:06,574 I feel him very much involved with the structure. 358 00:18:06,576 --> 00:18:09,109 Do you know anything about what he was like in life? 359 00:18:09,111 --> 00:18:13,780 I would say that he was a... 360 00:18:13,782 --> 00:18:16,148 no bull[bleep] kind of guy. 361 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:21,586 I would guess that he might have been, like, a boss 362 00:18:21,588 --> 00:18:23,656 because he's very much like, 363 00:18:23,658 --> 00:18:26,225 "This is what's going on. This is what we're doing. This is what's happening." 364 00:18:26,227 --> 00:18:28,196 Does the old man interact with the living? 365 00:18:28,198 --> 00:18:32,503 It think he's tried talking to them. 366 00:18:32,505 --> 00:18:37,010 He's definitely trying to keep these demons at bay. 367 00:18:37,012 --> 00:18:39,746 I think he was also trying 368 00:18:39,748 --> 00:18:44,118 to give warnings about what's going on. 369 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,558 [Door creaks] 370 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,492 Like, I see him talking to somebody laying in bed, 371 00:18:50,494 --> 00:18:54,364 trying to explain things to them. 372 00:18:57,402 --> 00:18:59,306 So, he gets sentenced to 3 1/2 years. 373 00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:01,108 - He does 2 1/2, and he gets out. - Right. 374 00:19:01,110 --> 00:19:03,345 Okay, does he go back to counterfeiting? I mean, what's he do? 375 00:19:03,347 --> 00:19:05,079 No, he gave up the counterfeiting, 376 00:19:05,081 --> 00:19:06,913 moved back into your clients' house. 377 00:19:06,915 --> 00:19:08,615 His mom lived there, too. 378 00:19:08,617 --> 00:19:10,483 He got a job at a local printing shop, 379 00:19:10,485 --> 00:19:12,619 and then he got married in 1940. 380 00:19:12,621 --> 00:19:16,323 And this was the wedding of Clarence and his wife. 381 00:19:16,325 --> 00:19:19,460 And him and his wife had three little boys. 382 00:19:19,462 --> 00:19:21,330 Okay, so, what happens to this guy? 383 00:19:21,332 --> 00:19:26,100 Well, things went real bad in 1948 initially, 384 00:19:26,102 --> 00:19:27,868 when his mother died. 385 00:19:27,870 --> 00:19:30,403 It hit him pretty hard. 386 00:19:30,405 --> 00:19:34,174 Kind of started into a downward spiral mentally. 387 00:19:34,176 --> 00:19:36,642 - Did she die in the house? - She died at home. 388 00:19:36,644 --> 00:19:38,878 I have the death certificate here. 389 00:19:41,118 --> 00:19:43,653 Okay, so, cerebral hemorrhages. 390 00:19:43,655 --> 00:19:45,418 - So, it was a natural cause. - Right. 391 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:46,820 So, what happens after that? 392 00:19:46,822 --> 00:19:49,689 Things started spiraling downhill. 393 00:19:49,691 --> 00:19:51,958 He was developing a real paranoia. 394 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,897 He was convinced the government was out to get him. 395 00:19:54,899 --> 00:19:56,330 They were spying on him. 396 00:19:56,332 --> 00:20:00,100 He had pretty much alienated his wife and sons. 397 00:20:00,102 --> 00:20:03,106 It got so bad that she actually had him committed. 398 00:20:03,108 --> 00:20:05,976 They used electroshock therapy on him, 399 00:20:05,978 --> 00:20:07,677 which apparently didn't help, 400 00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:09,679 and it got so bad that she eventually 401 00:20:09,681 --> 00:20:11,380 had him committed to a mental institution... 402 00:20:13,149 --> 00:20:15,751 where he spent the last 26 years of his life, 403 00:20:15,753 --> 00:20:18,089 dying at age 83. 404 00:20:18,091 --> 00:20:22,125 This guy was the leader of a pretty good-sized operation 405 00:20:22,127 --> 00:20:24,096 early on in his life, 406 00:20:24,098 --> 00:20:26,066 and he died, wasted down to nothing. 407 00:20:33,278 --> 00:20:36,411 This guy is [bleep] sick. [Clears throat] 408 00:20:36,413 --> 00:20:38,848 Do you know how he died? Something with his head. 409 00:20:41,053 --> 00:20:42,787 He had a lot of pain in his head. 410 00:20:42,789 --> 00:20:44,320 That's all I know. 411 00:20:44,322 --> 00:20:46,757 [Exhales heavily] 412 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:48,893 He was sick for a long time. I know that. 413 00:20:50,228 --> 00:20:51,928 This [bleep] so thick. 414 00:20:51,930 --> 00:20:54,599 I don't know how they [bleep] even stay here. 415 00:21:08,975 --> 00:21:11,509 STEVE: So far, I've uncovered a major counterfeit ring 416 00:21:11,511 --> 00:21:12,877 tied to my clients' property, 417 00:21:12,879 --> 00:21:14,313 where the previous owner 418 00:21:14,315 --> 00:21:16,648 was committed to a mental institution. 419 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:18,353 But I need to see if there's anything else. 420 00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:22,894 Searching through old archives, 421 00:21:22,896 --> 00:21:24,728 I find something I didn't expect... 422 00:21:26,898 --> 00:21:30,103 a deadly explosion that happened in 1898 423 00:21:30,105 --> 00:21:34,210 right down the street from my clients' house. 424 00:21:34,212 --> 00:21:37,313 I've called out a local reporter 425 00:21:37,315 --> 00:21:40,649 who says it was one of the worst accidents in Toledo's history. 426 00:21:49,092 --> 00:21:53,062 This explosion I came across... what exactly happened? 427 00:21:53,064 --> 00:21:55,128 So, there was the Union Railroad, 428 00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:56,696 which had a grain elevator. 429 00:21:56,698 --> 00:21:58,998 Here it is right here. 430 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,003 On the night of September 21, 1898, 431 00:22:04,005 --> 00:22:05,638 25 people were working there. 432 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,073 They had just received a big shipment of oats, and they were, 433 00:22:08,075 --> 00:22:09,475 you know, processing these oats, 434 00:22:09,477 --> 00:22:12,378 but they didn't have the safety mechanisms in place. 435 00:22:12,380 --> 00:22:14,412 So, there were highly flammable dust particles 436 00:22:14,414 --> 00:22:16,945 - in the air from this device. - Okay. 437 00:22:16,947 --> 00:22:19,315 And somehow or another, these floating dust particles 438 00:22:19,317 --> 00:22:21,717 got into the furnace, 439 00:22:21,719 --> 00:22:23,617 which then exploded. 440 00:22:23,619 --> 00:22:25,851 This is the aftermath. 441 00:22:25,853 --> 00:22:29,687 This is the rubble from the explosion and the fire. 442 00:22:32,455 --> 00:22:33,689 Wow. 443 00:22:33,691 --> 00:22:35,626 I mean, it just looks like 444 00:22:35,628 --> 00:22:37,459 somebody dropped a 500-pound bomb on it. 445 00:22:37,461 --> 00:22:38,694 Oh, yeah. 446 00:22:39,795 --> 00:22:41,730 Where my clients' property is is pretty close. 447 00:22:41,732 --> 00:22:43,402 What would it have felt like for them? 448 00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:44,836 It felt like an earthquake. 449 00:22:44,838 --> 00:22:46,304 It broke out windows. 450 00:22:46,306 --> 00:22:48,475 It melted rail road cars. 451 00:22:48,477 --> 00:22:52,848 Everything with a 200-foot radius was consumed by flames. 452 00:22:52,850 --> 00:22:54,414 Wow. 453 00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:56,814 15 people were killed. 454 00:22:56,816 --> 00:22:59,252 - Two of those bodies were never recovered. - At all? 455 00:22:59,254 --> 00:23:01,920 Essentially, they were just reduced to ashes. 456 00:23:01,922 --> 00:23:05,390 One of the bodies that was never recovered 457 00:23:05,392 --> 00:23:08,963 was the youngest son of the superintendent, Mr. Parks. 458 00:23:08,965 --> 00:23:10,665 Harold was 6. 459 00:23:10,667 --> 00:23:13,835 And then, shortly after he died, 460 00:23:13,837 --> 00:23:16,102 his 10-year-old son, Hamilton, 461 00:23:16,104 --> 00:23:19,274 - also died as a result of the explosion. - Wow. 462 00:23:19,276 --> 00:23:22,079 He also had his daughter, Grace, a 19-year-old, 463 00:23:22,081 --> 00:23:25,083 who died a day after the accident. 464 00:23:25,085 --> 00:23:26,985 That's a real tragedy. 465 00:23:26,987 --> 00:23:29,455 One of the headlines referred to it 466 00:23:29,457 --> 00:23:31,390 as "The Holocaust at Toledo." 467 00:23:37,899 --> 00:23:42,032 AMY: I'm seeing people running. 468 00:23:42,034 --> 00:23:43,434 They're screaming. 469 00:23:43,436 --> 00:23:47,836 I'm just getting a lot of physical trauma. 470 00:23:49,072 --> 00:23:52,176 It was something that was huge. 471 00:23:54,413 --> 00:23:57,147 Something unexpected, something very big. 472 00:23:57,149 --> 00:23:59,116 Getting a big accident. 473 00:23:59,118 --> 00:24:00,652 [bleep] 474 00:24:00,654 --> 00:24:02,354 Like a building collapsing on them. 475 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:15,667 There were several entities that stood out during my walk, 476 00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:17,636 but what has me the most concerned 477 00:24:17,638 --> 00:24:19,837 are the demon creatures tormenting the living. 478 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:23,676 There were three or four that came from the closet, 479 00:24:23,678 --> 00:24:26,347 and there was a small kid, 480 00:24:26,349 --> 00:24:30,021 and one of them was standing behind him. 481 00:24:30,023 --> 00:24:32,191 MAN: Okay. 482 00:24:32,193 --> 00:24:34,963 The nose was kind of like a pig's nose... 483 00:24:36,366 --> 00:24:39,099 and it had, like, fangs. 484 00:24:40,634 --> 00:24:42,835 - What about the build? - Very thin. 485 00:24:42,837 --> 00:24:46,532 Longer than the average arms. 486 00:24:52,043 --> 00:24:54,241 Is this what you saw? 487 00:24:57,209 --> 00:25:00,611 Yes, that's what I saw. 488 00:25:24,019 --> 00:25:26,755 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 489 00:25:26,757 --> 00:25:29,257 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 490 00:25:29,259 --> 00:25:31,458 and our clients for the first time. 491 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:34,385 Amy, I'd like you to meet 492 00:25:34,485 --> 00:25:36,719 the three ladies that live in this house. 493 00:25:36,721 --> 00:25:38,387 This is Maggie. 494 00:25:38,389 --> 00:25:40,187 This is Angie, Maggie's mom, 495 00:25:40,189 --> 00:25:43,691 and this is Leslie, Angie's partner. 496 00:25:43,693 --> 00:25:45,759 All three of them are having a tough time here, 497 00:25:45,761 --> 00:25:47,027 and they've experienced a lot, 498 00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:49,064 but the main reason we're here 499 00:25:49,066 --> 00:25:51,929 is for Maggie's 2-year-old son, Nathan. 500 00:25:52,896 --> 00:25:54,866 AMY: Aww. 501 00:25:54,868 --> 00:25:57,036 Now, the ladies don't think it's safe for any of them, 502 00:25:57,038 --> 00:25:59,236 but they're more concerned for him. 503 00:25:59,238 --> 00:26:02,041 So, now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on, 504 00:26:02,043 --> 00:26:05,144 I'll ask her to tell us about her walk. 505 00:26:09,418 --> 00:26:12,051 AMY: So, I was outside, 506 00:26:12,053 --> 00:26:14,386 and I started seeing all of these dead people. 507 00:26:14,388 --> 00:26:18,392 They were not looking very good. 508 00:26:18,394 --> 00:26:21,194 It seemed like some kind of major accident 509 00:26:21,196 --> 00:26:23,632 that all of these people had been involved with, 510 00:26:23,634 --> 00:26:26,802 and they were in a lot of pain and agony. 511 00:26:26,804 --> 00:26:32,710 It seemed to me like some kind of collapse, like a building. 512 00:26:32,712 --> 00:26:34,980 STEVE: It makes sense. 513 00:26:34,982 --> 00:26:36,983 One of the worst accidents in Toledo's history 514 00:26:36,985 --> 00:26:40,418 happened only half a mile from your residence here. 515 00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:44,158 It was an accident involving the Union Railroad 516 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,496 where the grain elevator was operated. 517 00:26:47,498 --> 00:26:50,598 This is what the factory looked like. 518 00:26:51,867 --> 00:26:55,673 Now, back on September 21, 1898, 519 00:26:55,675 --> 00:26:58,106 dust got into the boiler, and boom. 520 00:26:59,207 --> 00:27:01,510 Huge explosion. 521 00:27:01,512 --> 00:27:03,747 This is what it looked like after. 522 00:27:06,184 --> 00:27:07,751 It looks like a war zone. 523 00:27:07,753 --> 00:27:10,788 28 people were in the building. 524 00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:12,521 15 died. 525 00:27:13,654 --> 00:27:15,717 Only 13 bodies were recovered. 526 00:27:15,719 --> 00:27:17,753 Two actually just burnt to a crisp. 527 00:27:17,755 --> 00:27:19,189 They never recovered them. 528 00:27:19,191 --> 00:27:22,193 Worst part of this story is 529 00:27:22,195 --> 00:27:24,228 the three kids that were killed because they were there, 530 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:26,062 visiting their father, who was the superintendent. 531 00:27:28,434 --> 00:27:31,533 I saw a young boy in the staircase, 532 00:27:31,535 --> 00:27:33,400 and he was burnt. 533 00:27:33,402 --> 00:27:35,070 He was burnt all over. 534 00:27:35,072 --> 00:27:38,305 I've also seen him at the top of the stairs. 535 00:27:38,307 --> 00:27:41,406 STEVE: Now, could these kids have come inside the house here? 536 00:27:41,408 --> 00:27:42,874 AMY: Yes. 537 00:27:42,876 --> 00:27:45,376 They're all over the neighborhood... these people. 538 00:27:47,812 --> 00:27:50,144 What else did you see on your walk? 539 00:27:50,146 --> 00:27:51,813 I did meet an older male. 540 00:27:53,782 --> 00:27:59,825 This individual has been trying to warn you for some time. 541 00:27:59,827 --> 00:28:02,228 He's here to protect. 542 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:05,032 He's been trying to communicate to you 543 00:28:05,034 --> 00:28:08,605 via literally talking to you or through dreams, as well. 544 00:28:08,607 --> 00:28:10,307 [Sighs] 545 00:28:10,309 --> 00:28:11,775 - You told me about the old man, right? - Right. 546 00:28:11,777 --> 00:28:14,114 I often see him tinkering around. 547 00:28:14,116 --> 00:28:16,282 We call him Clarence. 548 00:28:16,284 --> 00:28:18,419 We don't know if that's his real name. 549 00:28:18,421 --> 00:28:19,955 Where'd you get the name Clarence from? 550 00:28:19,957 --> 00:28:22,456 I don't know. I just named him it. 551 00:28:22,458 --> 00:28:26,227 I don't know if it came to me in a dream. They've been talking to you. 552 00:28:26,229 --> 00:28:28,061 You know what kind of guy he was when he was alive? 553 00:28:28,063 --> 00:28:31,564 Straightforward guy, just told you like it was. 554 00:28:31,566 --> 00:28:33,197 He liked to fix problems. 555 00:28:33,199 --> 00:28:35,300 He took charge. He took control. 556 00:28:35,302 --> 00:28:37,233 He was a boss. 557 00:28:37,235 --> 00:28:39,035 Um... 558 00:28:39,037 --> 00:28:42,004 I started to have... 559 00:28:42,006 --> 00:28:45,573 extreme pain in my head, 560 00:28:45,575 --> 00:28:48,443 and I knew that it was coming from him. 561 00:28:48,445 --> 00:28:50,912 Well, I'll tell you a story 562 00:28:50,914 --> 00:28:52,611 about a guy that lived in this house. 563 00:28:52,613 --> 00:28:54,346 Name was Clarence. 564 00:28:54,348 --> 00:28:56,513 Really? 565 00:28:56,515 --> 00:28:58,213 Hmm. 566 00:28:58,215 --> 00:29:00,882 - Clarence Brown. - My God. 567 00:29:00,884 --> 00:29:02,386 You didn't know that? 568 00:29:02,388 --> 00:29:05,324 Okay, he was 17 years old when he moved here in 1930. 569 00:29:05,326 --> 00:29:08,294 Lived here with his father, his mother, and his brother. 570 00:29:08,296 --> 00:29:10,463 Father had a printing shop in town. 571 00:29:10,465 --> 00:29:12,429 Depression hits, and they lose everything. 572 00:29:12,431 --> 00:29:14,800 Clarence is a 17-year-old kid. 573 00:29:14,802 --> 00:29:16,836 He decided, "You know what? 574 00:29:16,838 --> 00:29:18,970 "I'm gonna start up a counterfeiting business 575 00:29:18,972 --> 00:29:23,374 right in the basement here and in the shop in Huron Street." 576 00:29:23,376 --> 00:29:26,140 So, he employed his father, his brother, 577 00:29:26,142 --> 00:29:28,274 and they were printing up money 578 00:29:28,276 --> 00:29:29,976 to the point where it got international. 579 00:29:29,978 --> 00:29:32,646 He was pissed about the government 580 00:29:32,648 --> 00:29:36,381 not doing the right thing and helping the city. 581 00:29:36,383 --> 00:29:38,518 So, he thought by making money 582 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,154 and putting it into the community, it would help things. 583 00:29:41,156 --> 00:29:44,724 So, it's 1935. The FBI busts him. 584 00:29:44,726 --> 00:29:47,828 - They arrested everybody... his father, his brother. - Oh [bleep] 585 00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:49,030 He said, "No, no. It was all on me. 586 00:29:49,032 --> 00:29:50,633 I'm the one that came up with this whole scheme." 587 00:29:50,635 --> 00:29:53,471 He took the hit, 588 00:29:53,473 --> 00:29:55,707 and he did 2 1/2 out of 3 1/2 years he was supposed to do. 589 00:29:55,709 --> 00:29:57,844 So, he gets out of jail, comes back, 590 00:29:57,846 --> 00:29:59,612 and moves back into this house, 591 00:29:59,614 --> 00:30:01,147 gets married to a woman named Florence. 592 00:30:01,149 --> 00:30:03,348 And this is a photo. 593 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:07,185 This is him and Florence when they got married. 594 00:30:07,187 --> 00:30:10,352 They had three boys and lived here. 595 00:30:10,354 --> 00:30:13,722 He goes straight, and he goes to work for a local printing shop. 596 00:30:13,724 --> 00:30:15,422 1948, his mom, 597 00:30:15,424 --> 00:30:19,761 who lived in this house with him, died in the house. 598 00:30:21,497 --> 00:30:24,833 That's when his life kind of went for a turn. 599 00:30:24,835 --> 00:30:28,237 He starts getting mentally unstable. 600 00:30:28,239 --> 00:30:31,237 His wife tried everything... 601 00:30:31,239 --> 00:30:34,407 in and out of doctors, electroshock therapy. 602 00:30:34,409 --> 00:30:38,781 1971, she had him committed into a mental hospital. 603 00:30:38,783 --> 00:30:44,015 - He laid there for 26 years till he died, 1997. - Geez. 604 00:30:44,017 --> 00:30:46,220 Now, that head pain you were talking about. 605 00:30:46,222 --> 00:30:48,421 I have his death certificate. 606 00:30:48,423 --> 00:30:52,056 He died of cerebral atrophy. 607 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,698 I got photos of him later on in life. 608 00:31:00,302 --> 00:31:03,105 That's him right there. 609 00:31:03,107 --> 00:31:06,309 - So, you never knew the name Clarence? - I didn't. 610 00:31:06,311 --> 00:31:07,443 You're not bull[bleep] me, right? 611 00:31:07,445 --> 00:31:09,644 I'm not bull[bleep] I'm not bull[bleep] you. 612 00:31:09,646 --> 00:31:11,244 It happened, Steve. 613 00:31:11,246 --> 00:31:14,814 He's been talking to her for years. 614 00:31:14,816 --> 00:31:18,149 - You're pretty sure you met Clarence? - Yeah. 615 00:31:18,151 --> 00:31:19,616 I'm blown away myself. 616 00:31:19,618 --> 00:31:22,051 Makes me very emotional. 617 00:31:22,053 --> 00:31:25,821 [Sighs] 618 00:31:31,097 --> 00:31:34,997 A lot of issues were going on upstairs. 619 00:31:34,999 --> 00:31:39,039 When I went into the bedroom to the right, 620 00:31:39,041 --> 00:31:41,009 it almost felt like I was suffocating. 621 00:31:41,011 --> 00:31:43,544 There's somebody in there 622 00:31:43,546 --> 00:31:45,915 who's very unhappy and lashing out. 623 00:31:45,917 --> 00:31:49,019 That person was a possible poltergeist agent. 624 00:31:49,021 --> 00:31:52,889 Their emotions were coming out in a physical way 625 00:31:52,891 --> 00:31:55,193 and affecting their surroundings... 626 00:31:55,195 --> 00:31:57,361 objects moving without explanation 627 00:31:57,363 --> 00:32:00,430 and possible harm to others. 628 00:32:00,432 --> 00:32:01,699 Oh, my gosh. 629 00:32:01,701 --> 00:32:03,832 That was my old room. 630 00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:06,601 I have really, really bad mood swings. 631 00:32:06,603 --> 00:32:09,773 Sometimes, I can just go from being really happy 632 00:32:09,775 --> 00:32:11,206 to being really, really pissed off. 633 00:32:14,679 --> 00:32:17,314 - STEVE: Is there a poltergeist here? - Absolutely. 634 00:32:17,316 --> 00:32:19,114 Is she the living agent? 635 00:32:19,116 --> 00:32:22,351 I don't know if she created the poltergeist, 636 00:32:22,353 --> 00:32:23,718 but she's definitely feeding it. 637 00:32:26,354 --> 00:32:28,688 It isn't a fully formed entity at this point, 638 00:32:28,690 --> 00:32:31,122 but it can cause a lot of chaos. 639 00:32:31,124 --> 00:32:33,992 When I first walked upstairs, 640 00:32:33,994 --> 00:32:37,501 I did see a woman get physically attacked. 641 00:32:37,503 --> 00:32:41,208 I saw her get lifted off the floor 642 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:43,510 and dragged across the little hallway. 643 00:32:44,811 --> 00:32:47,815 She wasn't the only one being physically harmed. 644 00:32:50,721 --> 00:32:57,028 I was, uh... held down in the bed 645 00:32:57,030 --> 00:32:59,333 and sexually assaulted... 646 00:33:01,804 --> 00:33:03,071 in that bedroom. 647 00:33:03,073 --> 00:33:04,739 I couldn't breathe. 648 00:33:04,741 --> 00:33:06,442 I couldn't move. 649 00:33:06,444 --> 00:33:08,977 I don't know how long it lasted. 650 00:33:08,979 --> 00:33:11,280 It seemed like it lasted forever, 651 00:33:11,282 --> 00:33:15,549 and when it was gone, it was gone, 652 00:33:15,551 --> 00:33:16,950 but I was very sick after that. 653 00:33:16,952 --> 00:33:20,188 So, was this poltergeist what could have attacked Angie? 654 00:33:20,190 --> 00:33:22,256 Oh, no. That, I think, is something else. 655 00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:29,864 The older man was telling me that he had been fighting 656 00:33:29,866 --> 00:33:34,270 for quite some time a particular entity, 657 00:33:34,272 --> 00:33:36,105 but now there's more, 658 00:33:36,107 --> 00:33:40,806 and he can't contend with them any further. 659 00:33:40,808 --> 00:33:42,977 They're very strange-looking. 660 00:33:42,979 --> 00:33:44,878 They kind of have bat faces. 661 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,511 Their mouths are kind of round, 662 00:33:46,513 --> 00:33:48,279 and they have, like, very sharp teeth. 663 00:33:48,281 --> 00:33:50,449 They have the pointed ears. 664 00:33:50,451 --> 00:33:53,349 I do not think that these things were ever alive. 665 00:33:53,351 --> 00:33:57,820 I think they're innately, inherently evil. 666 00:33:57,822 --> 00:34:02,492 One thing I noticed was someone was saying 667 00:34:02,494 --> 00:34:04,993 some type of religious statement, 668 00:34:04,995 --> 00:34:09,269 and it did make them back... back up. 669 00:34:09,271 --> 00:34:12,373 So, for lack of a better word, 670 00:34:12,375 --> 00:34:15,212 I would say that these things are some kind of demons. 671 00:34:17,914 --> 00:34:20,518 You guys say when you pray, it stops. 672 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,220 Oh, yeah. It does. 673 00:34:22,222 --> 00:34:26,092 Also, the closet where I saw most of these things 674 00:34:26,094 --> 00:34:28,964 was in the smaller room upstairs. 675 00:34:28,966 --> 00:34:31,465 That's my son's room. 676 00:34:31,467 --> 00:34:34,534 Is it possible that he's seen them? 677 00:34:34,536 --> 00:34:36,035 Yes. 678 00:34:36,037 --> 00:34:37,534 [Voice breaking] Because... 679 00:34:37,536 --> 00:34:41,307 he used to wake up with really bad nightmares... 680 00:34:43,411 --> 00:34:45,810 and he's been pushed in his room before. 681 00:34:48,646 --> 00:34:52,083 I did do a sketch of what I saw. 682 00:35:00,855 --> 00:35:03,589 - Oh, I feel sick. - [Bleep] 683 00:35:05,325 --> 00:35:08,460 Are you kidding me? 684 00:35:11,064 --> 00:35:12,299 [Sighs] 685 00:35:17,437 --> 00:35:18,938 Oh, geez. 686 00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:21,438 That's the thing that I see. 687 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,342 [Sighs] 688 00:35:41,122 --> 00:35:44,459 AMY: I did do a sketch of what I saw. 689 00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:50,902 - Oh, I feel sick. - [Bleep] 690 00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:54,140 Are you kidding me? 691 00:35:58,379 --> 00:35:59,612 [Sighs] 692 00:36:04,684 --> 00:36:06,254 Oh, geez. 693 00:36:06,256 --> 00:36:08,756 That's the thing that I see. 694 00:36:08,758 --> 00:36:10,655 [Sighs] 695 00:36:18,732 --> 00:36:23,205 More than likely, that's the thing that attacked you. 696 00:36:25,875 --> 00:36:27,608 The big question for me now 697 00:36:27,610 --> 00:36:29,676 is are those things still in the closet? 698 00:36:29,678 --> 00:36:31,111 Um, yes. 699 00:36:33,783 --> 00:36:36,449 MAGGIE: [Sniffles] 700 00:36:36,451 --> 00:36:39,286 [Sobbing] 701 00:36:39,288 --> 00:36:42,356 It's all right, baby. 702 00:36:46,493 --> 00:36:49,597 I just feel guilty. 703 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:51,198 Why would you feel guilty, baby? 704 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,839 Just remembering him waking up and... 705 00:36:55,841 --> 00:36:57,408 [Sighs heavily] 706 00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:58,776 There's just been times 707 00:36:58,778 --> 00:37:01,244 where I've kind of just put him back to bed in there. 708 00:37:01,246 --> 00:37:02,879 It just makes me feel guilty. 709 00:37:05,914 --> 00:37:09,386 AMY: When I went into the child's room, 710 00:37:09,388 --> 00:37:12,121 I became very upset. 711 00:37:12,123 --> 00:37:17,161 The child in that room had very strong abilities. 712 00:37:17,163 --> 00:37:19,931 That child comprehended very quickly 713 00:37:19,933 --> 00:37:21,968 that he had these abilities, 714 00:37:21,970 --> 00:37:24,671 was able to manipulate his environment, 715 00:37:24,673 --> 00:37:29,779 and therefore, began attracting the other demons to come. 716 00:37:29,781 --> 00:37:32,583 These things are extraordinarily dangerous 717 00:37:32,585 --> 00:37:37,020 and that the older man is very concerned 718 00:37:37,022 --> 00:37:42,131 and feels that they are here to take... souls. 719 00:37:42,133 --> 00:37:49,003 But their goal, really, is to... possess him 720 00:37:49,005 --> 00:37:52,944 so that they can 721 00:37:52,946 --> 00:37:57,883 basically be able to function through him to do harm. 722 00:37:57,885 --> 00:38:01,089 STEVE: All the things that have happened to your son, 723 00:38:01,091 --> 00:38:05,128 him getting pushed and thrown, 724 00:38:05,130 --> 00:38:06,963 that would have been from these things? 725 00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:08,601 Yes. 726 00:38:10,937 --> 00:38:12,436 ANGIE: I worry about the baby. 727 00:38:12,438 --> 00:38:14,539 Doesn't make me feel too good about staying here. 728 00:38:14,541 --> 00:38:15,775 I'll tell you that. 729 00:38:19,548 --> 00:38:22,082 What do we do? That's what we need to know. 730 00:38:22,084 --> 00:38:24,951 What do we do? 731 00:38:24,953 --> 00:38:29,087 STEVE: I know this is not what you wanted to hear tonight. 732 00:38:29,089 --> 00:38:30,689 At least you know what's going on in the house now. 733 00:38:30,691 --> 00:38:32,990 The big question is, though, 734 00:38:32,992 --> 00:38:36,792 can you still stay here and raise Nathan safely? 735 00:38:36,794 --> 00:38:38,293 For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy, 736 00:38:38,295 --> 00:38:39,927 and hopefully, she'll have an answer for you. 737 00:38:41,796 --> 00:38:46,430 It seems to me that what's basically going on here 738 00:38:46,432 --> 00:38:50,199 is that this older man is reaching out 739 00:38:50,201 --> 00:38:54,769 because he really feels like he failed his family, 740 00:38:54,771 --> 00:38:59,241 and I think he wants to protect Nathan 741 00:38:59,243 --> 00:39:02,942 because he sees history repeating itself. 742 00:39:02,944 --> 00:39:04,511 I think that the first thing 743 00:39:04,513 --> 00:39:07,648 that needs to be done immediately 744 00:39:07,650 --> 00:39:13,387 is the contact of a priest or a demonologist... 745 00:39:13,389 --> 00:39:18,926 someone who can perform an exorcism on the home 746 00:39:18,928 --> 00:39:20,928 and the property 747 00:39:20,930 --> 00:39:23,997 that is just to be directed towards 748 00:39:23,999 --> 00:39:28,801 the negative demonic entities that are present. 749 00:39:28,803 --> 00:39:31,138 I want this exorcism 750 00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:38,173 to not incorporate the older man at all, 751 00:39:38,175 --> 00:39:43,045 so that needs to be stated to the priest or demonologist. 752 00:39:43,047 --> 00:39:46,615 The second thing that needs to be done as soon as possible... 753 00:39:46,617 --> 00:39:49,784 take Nathan to a child psychologist 754 00:39:49,786 --> 00:39:52,019 for a behavior observation. 755 00:39:52,021 --> 00:39:55,484 Once that's done, give it about two or three weeks. 756 00:39:55,486 --> 00:39:58,155 Really pay attention to his behavior. 757 00:39:58,157 --> 00:40:01,426 If it improves substantially, everything's good. 758 00:40:01,428 --> 00:40:03,226 If it does not, 759 00:40:03,228 --> 00:40:07,863 then he, as well, would need to be, uh, exorcised. 760 00:40:11,538 --> 00:40:15,307 And that would have to be done only by a priest. 761 00:40:17,243 --> 00:40:18,910 The issue with the older male... 762 00:40:18,912 --> 00:40:22,913 one night, Angie, I want you to go and lay in your bed. 763 00:40:22,915 --> 00:40:26,781 I want you to ask Clarence to come to you. 764 00:40:26,783 --> 00:40:29,654 Let him know that his work is done, 765 00:40:29,656 --> 00:40:33,223 that he did a good job, and it's time for him to go. 766 00:40:33,225 --> 00:40:35,928 Concerning the poltergeist phenomenon, 767 00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:40,365 Maggie should take up a physical but gentle form of exercise, 768 00:40:40,367 --> 00:40:43,202 such as yoga, tai chi, or qigong. 769 00:40:43,204 --> 00:40:47,472 This will help you to learn how to control your abilities. 770 00:40:47,474 --> 00:40:50,407 It'll also serve as an emotional release. 771 00:40:50,409 --> 00:40:52,142 STEVE: You guys looked pretty stunned when she said 772 00:40:52,144 --> 00:40:54,940 the exorcism of the house, but especially of the baby. 773 00:40:54,942 --> 00:40:57,411 Yeah, I didn't expect that at all. 774 00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,078 I didn't, either, to be honest with you, so... 775 00:41:05,655 --> 00:41:09,424 We'll do what we have to do to protect him. 776 00:41:09,426 --> 00:41:12,363 If, God forbid, he has to have an exorcism from a priest, 777 00:41:12,365 --> 00:41:14,397 what would he go through? 778 00:41:14,399 --> 00:41:15,999 Would it be simple? 779 00:41:16,001 --> 00:41:19,906 I don't think that it's a full possession, 780 00:41:19,908 --> 00:41:23,543 so it would be fairly quick. 781 00:41:23,545 --> 00:41:28,584 He probably wouldn't even fully register what's going on. 782 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:30,252 He'd probably think that this person 783 00:41:30,254 --> 00:41:33,219 was just praying over him, 784 00:41:33,221 --> 00:41:35,788 so I don't think it would be 785 00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:39,421 psychologically damaging in any way. 786 00:41:39,423 --> 00:41:43,391 That's tough advice that she gave you, 787 00:41:43,393 --> 00:41:45,729 and if, God forbid, he needs an exorcism, 788 00:41:45,731 --> 00:41:48,696 - are you gonna go through that? - Yeah, we have to. 789 00:41:48,698 --> 00:41:53,133 I don't want to, but I will. 790 00:41:55,372 --> 00:41:58,140 AMY: There are several dead people on Angie's property, 791 00:41:58,142 --> 00:42:01,144 but the demons inside pose the greatest threat. 792 00:42:01,146 --> 00:42:03,349 I believe if they follow my advice, 793 00:42:03,351 --> 00:42:05,383 they will free their home of the evil within it 794 00:42:05,385 --> 00:42:07,585 and be able to live a peaceful life. 795 00:42:07,635 --> 00:42:12,185 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60287

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