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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,720 Subs created by: David Coleman. 2 00:00:11,477 --> 00:00:14,319 I'm getting a really sharp pain here. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,136 And the guy came up and just went, bam bam bam! 4 00:00:17,137 --> 00:00:19,402 I'm driven insane by this. 5 00:00:19,403 --> 00:00:21,087 You saw an apparition of a woman here. 6 00:00:21,088 --> 00:00:22,253 Right here, yes. 7 00:00:22,254 --> 00:00:23,930 Stop it! 8 00:00:23,931 --> 00:00:26,671 He died in a mental hospital. 9 00:00:26,672 --> 00:00:30,595 I heard this female voice. There was nobody there. 10 00:00:30,596 --> 00:00:33,236 He went insane. 11 00:00:33,591 --> 00:00:37,251 Oh, I think she got murdered. 12 00:00:39,462 --> 00:00:44,575 (Amy) We will hurt you. Don't think that we won't. 13 00:00:44,576 --> 00:00:47,696 My name is Amy Allan. 14 00:00:48,050 --> 00:00:49,514 There's something down there. 15 00:00:49,515 --> 00:00:51,100 I see dead people. 16 00:00:51,101 --> 00:00:53,216 He doesn't want me back there. 17 00:00:53,217 --> 00:00:55,411 I speak to dead people... 18 00:00:55,412 --> 00:00:56,701 She's pissed. 19 00:00:56,702 --> 00:00:57,917 And they speak to me. 20 00:00:57,918 --> 00:01:00,303 She doesn't like the people who live here. 21 00:01:00,304 --> 00:01:03,518 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 22 00:01:03,519 --> 00:01:05,171 Someone did hang themselves here. 23 00:01:05,172 --> 00:01:06,835 - Where? - There. 24 00:01:06,836 --> 00:01:08,883 I rely on my partner. 25 00:01:08,884 --> 00:01:12,207 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective. 26 00:01:12,208 --> 00:01:13,749 Did you want to kill him? 27 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:17,119 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 28 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,962 She did die in this house. 29 00:01:18,963 --> 00:01:20,389 It's my job to reveal them. 30 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:22,883 Would you be surprised if there were bodies in the basement? 31 00:01:22,884 --> 00:01:23,690 No. 32 00:01:23,691 --> 00:01:25,224 But Steve and I never speak... 33 00:01:25,225 --> 00:01:27,184 We never communicate during an investigation. 34 00:01:27,185 --> 00:01:28,530 Until the very end. 35 00:01:28,531 --> 00:01:30,019 Not good. 36 00:01:30,020 --> 00:01:31,980 Will we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 37 00:01:31,981 --> 00:01:33,156 Will it get worse? 38 00:01:33,157 --> 00:01:34,381 Or time to get out? 39 00:01:34,382 --> 00:01:36,546 - Oh, yes. - Whew. 40 00:01:36,547 --> 00:01:39,607 (Indistinct whispering) 41 00:01:54,590 --> 00:01:58,250 Steve does the Detective work. 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,816 He meets with the homeowners, interviews the witnesses. 43 00:02:02,817 --> 00:02:04,867 And finds the evidence. 44 00:02:04,868 --> 00:02:10,448 So we can later find out if there are any correlations. 45 00:02:12,267 --> 00:02:14,854 I'm pulling into Great Falls, Montana. 46 00:02:14,855 --> 00:02:18,614 It's a city that got its name from the five waterfalls that surround the area. 47 00:02:18,615 --> 00:02:24,012 I'm going to investigate a house that's about 120 years old. 48 00:02:24,013 --> 00:02:28,524 The home is occupied by a woman, Kelly, who lives there with her 6-year-old daughter. 49 00:02:28,525 --> 00:02:33,085 Kelly says she's seen a female apparition. 50 00:02:35,197 --> 00:02:37,013 She thinks she's going crazy, so I'm gonna go 51 00:02:37,014 --> 00:02:42,114 meet with her now and find out what's going on. 52 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:54,110 (Amy) Matt comes in before me to make sure the location is clean. 53 00:02:56,485 --> 00:03:00,022 He takes down any information that might seem leading. 54 00:03:00,023 --> 00:03:04,403 And could possibly influence my findings. 55 00:03:07,882 --> 00:03:12,212 He basically cleans the slate before I come in and do my walk. 56 00:03:12,213 --> 00:03:15,213 (Eerie music playing) 57 00:03:29,829 --> 00:03:32,289 (Door creaks) 58 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,640 (Amy sighs) 59 00:03:35,803 --> 00:03:37,495 So... much... 60 00:03:37,496 --> 00:03:39,536 Stress. 61 00:03:42,938 --> 00:03:47,476 Just feeling all these people, and they're just so stressed out and... 62 00:03:47,477 --> 00:03:48,545 (Sighs) 63 00:03:48,546 --> 00:03:51,906 Worried and unhappy and... 64 00:03:55,737 --> 00:03:57,586 Stop it! Oh! 65 00:03:57,587 --> 00:04:01,067 I'm driven insane by this. 66 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,160 I don't really like this place. 67 00:04:06,090 --> 00:04:09,090 (Eerie music playing) 68 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:24,549 So, Kelly, now that I'm here, uh, why don't you explain what's going on? 69 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:26,515 Well, I bought this house a couple years ago, 70 00:04:26,516 --> 00:04:29,861 and for some reason, I had to have it. I felt compelled to buy it. 71 00:04:29,862 --> 00:04:33,827 It was the, um, founder of Great Falls' home, Paris Gibson. 72 00:04:33,828 --> 00:04:37,696 - Well, what do you know about him? - Well, he had the house built in 1890, 73 00:04:37,697 --> 00:04:42,588 and he is also the person that founded Great Falls. 74 00:04:42,589 --> 00:04:47,217 So why don't you try to explain if you can what, kind of strange things are going on? 75 00:04:47,218 --> 00:04:50,585 Well, when I bought the house and I started renovating it, 76 00:04:50,586 --> 00:04:56,046 I realized that we weren't really the only ones here. 77 00:04:57,826 --> 00:05:00,803 (Kelly) There was a lot of remodel work that I had to do. 78 00:05:00,804 --> 00:05:02,922 I was standing here, looking at the floors, 79 00:05:02,923 --> 00:05:06,622 thinking about what to do with them, and then I saw the woman. 80 00:05:06,623 --> 00:05:08,891 You saw an apparition of a woman here in this room. 81 00:05:08,892 --> 00:05:12,422 - Right here, yes. - Okay, can you describe her for me? 82 00:05:12,423 --> 00:05:16,585 She was very tall and slender, very well-dressed. 83 00:05:16,586 --> 00:05:19,204 Old clothes, like around the turn of the century. 84 00:05:19,205 --> 00:05:23,035 And I believe it's Valeria Gibson. 85 00:05:23,036 --> 00:05:24,581 Who's Valeria Gibson? 86 00:05:24,582 --> 00:05:30,482 Valeria Gibson was Paris Gibson's wife, and I think she still lives here with us. 87 00:05:31,859 --> 00:05:34,462 - Have you ever told anybody that? - Very few people. 88 00:05:34,463 --> 00:05:37,454 - Do they think you're crazy, or... - Pretty much. 89 00:05:37,455 --> 00:05:40,431 And then all of a sudden, after I saw her... 90 00:05:40,432 --> 00:05:42,324 She just tells me things. 91 00:05:42,325 --> 00:05:44,793 They sort of just come to me, like, in my dreams. 92 00:05:44,794 --> 00:05:47,296 (Steve) Kelly's right... 93 00:05:47,297 --> 00:05:49,352 She may actually be crazy. 94 00:05:49,353 --> 00:05:52,678 If I'm getting this right, you're telling me she's putting thoughts into your head. 95 00:05:52,679 --> 00:05:54,689 - Yes. - Okay. 96 00:05:54,690 --> 00:05:58,675 She just sort of tells me what to do. 97 00:05:58,676 --> 00:06:00,876 I came here thinking she was seeing a ghost. 98 00:06:00,877 --> 00:06:06,777 Now she's telling me that she has a ghost that's actually controlling her dreams. 99 00:06:09,592 --> 00:06:12,592 (Floorboards creaking) 100 00:06:14,901 --> 00:06:17,747 Someone just walked from here... 101 00:06:17,748 --> 00:06:20,688 Over to the stairs. 102 00:06:25,084 --> 00:06:28,788 I think they're just spying on us. 103 00:06:28,789 --> 00:06:31,849 I think that maybe... 104 00:06:31,859 --> 00:06:35,197 People can see them sometimes. 105 00:06:35,198 --> 00:06:37,008 When I communicate with the dead, 106 00:06:37,009 --> 00:06:41,234 they sometimes tell me about the encounters they've already had with the living. 107 00:06:41,235 --> 00:06:47,135 Somebody's definitely seen a dead person here, like an apparition. 108 00:06:50,296 --> 00:06:55,353 When I saw her apparition, it gave me the idea that I needed to tear this wall out. 109 00:06:55,354 --> 00:06:57,893 And when I tore the wall out, this is what I found. 110 00:06:57,894 --> 00:07:00,986 This is an old, old inkwell... 111 00:07:00,987 --> 00:07:03,298 From, like, 1895. 112 00:07:03,299 --> 00:07:06,325 And I believe it was Valeria's. 113 00:07:06,326 --> 00:07:09,552 Now do you think she wanted you to find this? 114 00:07:09,553 --> 00:07:12,253 Oh, I'm sure of it, because I would never have taken this wall out. 115 00:07:12,254 --> 00:07:15,301 I had no reason to take the wall out. 116 00:07:15,302 --> 00:07:20,267 And I think there's a diary that's still in this house, but I can't find it. 117 00:07:20,268 --> 00:07:24,544 Kelly's story sounds insane, but it does make some sense. 118 00:07:24,545 --> 00:07:28,831 She dreamed she'd find something hidden inside a wall, and she did. 119 00:07:28,832 --> 00:07:31,054 So I get that she would expect the same result, 120 00:07:31,055 --> 00:07:33,800 when she dreams about a hidden diary. 121 00:07:33,801 --> 00:07:36,801 (Eerie music playing) 122 00:07:38,858 --> 00:07:41,738 (Heartbeat pounding) 123 00:07:42,613 --> 00:07:44,953 (Amy sighs) 124 00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:06,921 Man, they do not want me to see this, do they? 125 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:10,475 See what? 126 00:08:10,524 --> 00:08:16,224 I don't know why there's screaming and yelling going on. 127 00:08:17,895 --> 00:08:21,255 What are you looking for? 128 00:08:27,825 --> 00:08:31,891 That's so weird, I feel almost like... 129 00:08:31,892 --> 00:08:34,628 There should be... 130 00:08:34,629 --> 00:08:36,729 A room. 131 00:08:37,097 --> 00:08:38,758 Mm... 132 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,587 Somebody's putting stuff in there and... 133 00:08:41,588 --> 00:08:43,500 Who's putting stuff in there? 134 00:08:43,501 --> 00:08:45,661 A woman. 135 00:08:46,460 --> 00:08:51,800 (Matt) What kind of stuff are they putting in there? 136 00:08:55,534 --> 00:08:57,514 Books. 137 00:08:59,342 --> 00:09:01,987 I feel like somebody's in there, but... 138 00:09:01,988 --> 00:09:04,928 Let's pull it out. 139 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,782 Where the [Bleep] did they go? 140 00:09:11,783 --> 00:09:14,843 (Indistinct whispering) 141 00:09:25,604 --> 00:09:28,604 (Eerie music playing) 142 00:09:34,691 --> 00:09:37,445 I feel like it should go through somewhere. 143 00:09:37,446 --> 00:09:40,240 Well, why don't we pull it all out? 144 00:09:40,241 --> 00:09:44,385 (Amy) I can feel that this place was used for hiding very important things. 145 00:09:44,386 --> 00:09:49,126 But now there's nothing left but insulation. 146 00:09:56,510 --> 00:09:59,000 (Whispering) Ow. 147 00:09:59,001 --> 00:10:01,101 (Groans) 148 00:10:02,506 --> 00:10:06,276 I'm getting really sharp pain through my chest... 149 00:10:06,277 --> 00:10:09,457 Really sharp pain here. 150 00:10:09,612 --> 00:10:12,981 I think this is the female. 151 00:10:12,982 --> 00:10:18,485 I'm hearing a female say, yes, it's me, I died here. Mm-hmm. 152 00:10:18,486 --> 00:10:20,346 How? 153 00:10:22,023 --> 00:10:24,015 (Footsteps) 154 00:10:24,016 --> 00:10:26,896 I'm seeing stairs. 155 00:10:30,738 --> 00:10:32,634 (Steve) This is new territory for me. 156 00:10:32,635 --> 00:10:34,736 I'm standing here with a woman who's convinced 157 00:10:34,737 --> 00:10:37,560 that a dead woman is implanting thoughts into her head. 158 00:10:37,561 --> 00:10:40,508 I can tell you what she told me what happened to her. 159 00:10:40,509 --> 00:10:44,646 She was up here writing, and, um, her son Theodore came up, 160 00:10:44,647 --> 00:10:46,481 and they got into a confrontation. 161 00:10:46,482 --> 00:10:49,617 And he pushed her down the stairs. 162 00:10:49,618 --> 00:10:51,586 (Woman screaming) 163 00:10:51,587 --> 00:10:53,421 And she broke her neck and died. 164 00:10:53,422 --> 00:10:55,941 - That's what she's relayed to you? - Yeah. Yes. 165 00:10:55,942 --> 00:10:59,261 That came to me in a... in a dream. 166 00:10:59,262 --> 00:11:02,163 (Amy) She's, like, running up the stairs... (Heavy breathing) 167 00:11:02,164 --> 00:11:07,384 And then I do see her... she's falling back down. 168 00:11:07,588 --> 00:11:10,838 Somebody did this to her? 169 00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:12,759 Um... 170 00:11:13,335 --> 00:11:17,295 She's saying it was done to her. 171 00:11:17,311 --> 00:11:20,969 You know, there was a lot of things done to her. 172 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:24,389 Her whole life was kind of... 173 00:11:24,390 --> 00:11:26,913 Dictated. And... 174 00:11:26,914 --> 00:11:29,854 How she died was... 175 00:11:30,143 --> 00:11:32,663 Also dictated. 176 00:11:33,624 --> 00:11:37,267 (Amy) I'm actually seeing a woman... 177 00:11:37,268 --> 00:11:40,028 Who was murdered. 178 00:11:42,870 --> 00:11:45,239 (Kelly) Valeria Gibson told me that there's 179 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,543 underground tunnels underneath the house, too. 180 00:11:48,544 --> 00:11:53,227 And they took her corpse down to the basement. 181 00:11:53,228 --> 00:11:57,023 And through the tunnels to the Park Hotel. 182 00:11:57,024 --> 00:11:59,067 It says in the newspaper that, 183 00:11:59,068 --> 00:12:02,701 she jumped off the Park Hotel and committed suicide, but she didn't do that. 184 00:12:02,702 --> 00:12:04,429 She didn't commit suicide. 185 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:09,705 And I think that's what she wants people to know, and that's why she's telling me that. 186 00:12:09,706 --> 00:12:13,881 From what you're saying, if she's saying it, is that they made it look accidental. 187 00:12:13,882 --> 00:12:16,822 It was a cover-up. 188 00:12:17,805 --> 00:12:21,645 And Valeria's telling me that... 189 00:12:22,127 --> 00:12:25,054 The family got the tunnel system going. 190 00:12:25,055 --> 00:12:28,539 These tunnels are all associated with this house? 191 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:29,534 Yep. 192 00:12:29,535 --> 00:12:31,853 And you've never seen this tunnel yourself. 193 00:12:31,854 --> 00:12:33,788 - No. - Okay. 194 00:12:33,789 --> 00:12:37,525 I had a dream, and I know where they are. 195 00:12:37,526 --> 00:12:40,695 But I haven't opened the one up from underneath my house. 196 00:12:40,696 --> 00:12:42,930 - But I know where it is, yes. - You do? 197 00:12:42,931 --> 00:12:44,911 I do. 198 00:12:54,709 --> 00:12:57,830 This is where I think the tunnels are. 199 00:12:57,831 --> 00:13:00,782 Okay, and you think that because Valeria... 200 00:13:00,783 --> 00:13:02,483 - Told me. - Okay. 201 00:13:02,484 --> 00:13:05,966 This is where they took the corpse out down to the Park Hotel. 202 00:13:05,967 --> 00:13:08,351 Did you ever have blueprints for this house, by any chance? 203 00:13:08,352 --> 00:13:10,514 - I never did. - Okay. 204 00:13:10,515 --> 00:13:13,118 When I bought the house, I checked out City Hall... 205 00:13:13,119 --> 00:13:16,607 To see if I could get a set of blueprints, and they're completely gone. 206 00:13:16,608 --> 00:13:18,878 There's nothing showing any kind of a tunnel or anything. 207 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:20,803 - That's why... - All the tunnels are unrecorded. 208 00:13:20,804 --> 00:13:22,018 Right. 209 00:13:22,019 --> 00:13:24,332 I'm having a hard time believing everything I'm hearing, 210 00:13:24,333 --> 00:13:27,603 but I've heard stranger things that turned out to be true. 211 00:13:27,604 --> 00:13:31,445 And since I can't disprove any of this, I'm gonna continue the investigation 212 00:13:31,446 --> 00:13:34,582 and see if there's anything I can validate. 213 00:13:34,583 --> 00:13:37,583 (Eerie music playing) 214 00:13:46,722 --> 00:13:48,882 Oh, man. 215 00:13:53,588 --> 00:13:58,328 I really... I really don't like it in here. 216 00:14:02,043 --> 00:14:04,045 (Rubbing hands together) 217 00:14:04,046 --> 00:14:06,086 (Sighs) 218 00:14:08,216 --> 00:14:10,796 (Door creaking) 219 00:14:11,153 --> 00:14:13,154 (Scoffs) 220 00:14:13,155 --> 00:14:15,675 What is that? 221 00:14:15,885 --> 00:14:21,225 See, I'm wondering if the floor could go down more. 222 00:14:21,531 --> 00:14:25,495 I see probably, like, a few people... 223 00:14:25,496 --> 00:14:28,769 Um, down in the ground further. 224 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:31,350 I feel like... 225 00:14:31,762 --> 00:14:35,182 There's like, more down... 226 00:14:37,712 --> 00:14:40,892 Like a little cellar area. 227 00:14:40,893 --> 00:14:44,073 Or something like that. 228 00:14:51,359 --> 00:14:53,461 (Steve) After speaking with Kelly today, 229 00:14:53,462 --> 00:14:57,153 I'm having a problem trying to prove any of this. 230 00:14:57,154 --> 00:14:59,188 Basically, it's hearsay. 231 00:14:59,189 --> 00:15:03,437 I need to start with something concrete, so I'm gonna go look into the tunnels. 232 00:15:03,438 --> 00:15:05,072 I called a guy named Brad. 233 00:15:05,073 --> 00:15:09,010 He's gonna use some radar equipment to see if there's any tunnels under the house. 234 00:15:09,011 --> 00:15:10,995 Basically, it sends a signal down, 235 00:15:10,996 --> 00:15:13,781 which then reflects off of things in the subsurface. 236 00:15:13,782 --> 00:15:17,885 If there's a change in reflectivity, like from a void space, 237 00:15:17,886 --> 00:15:23,724 the signal comes back up very distinctly and records on the instrument. 238 00:15:23,725 --> 00:15:26,725 (Eerie music playing) 239 00:15:44,323 --> 00:15:47,023 (Buttons beeping) 240 00:15:58,990 --> 00:16:01,510 (Device beeps) 241 00:16:01,697 --> 00:16:04,517 (Beeping increases) 242 00:16:11,183 --> 00:16:13,109 Okay, so what's the verdict? 243 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:16,619 There was some change in the fill material. 244 00:16:16,620 --> 00:16:21,002 So it's possible there could have been a tunnel there that was then filled in later. 245 00:16:21,003 --> 00:16:23,738 Okay, Brad's test found an area of the basement 246 00:16:23,739 --> 00:16:27,876 filled with different dirt from the rest of it, so maybe Kelly's right. 247 00:16:27,877 --> 00:16:32,017 There could be a tunnel under there. 248 00:16:33,615 --> 00:16:36,495 (Heartbeat pounding) 249 00:16:43,425 --> 00:16:45,945 What is that? 250 00:16:48,890 --> 00:16:50,640 Big man. 251 00:16:50,641 --> 00:16:54,901 Doesn't want me back there. Does not want me back there. 252 00:16:54,902 --> 00:16:55,979 He's like... 253 00:16:55,980 --> 00:16:58,910 (Voice echoing) Get outta here. Shut up. 254 00:16:58,911 --> 00:17:03,687 (Normal voice) And he's calling me some names like, you [Bleep], blah blah blah. 255 00:17:03,688 --> 00:17:07,288 He's telling me to go away. 256 00:17:07,892 --> 00:17:10,658 - Can you see him? - Yeah, he's a big guy. 257 00:17:10,659 --> 00:17:16,559 I don't know how he fits in there, because he's bigger than the door. 258 00:17:19,228 --> 00:17:25,005 He's probably, like, 6-foot, and he's, like, a real stocky guy. 259 00:17:25,006 --> 00:17:28,463 He's very protective of this area. 260 00:17:28,464 --> 00:17:32,364 He's yelling in my ear really... 261 00:17:33,709 --> 00:17:35,869 Stop it. 262 00:17:40,056 --> 00:17:41,856 Mm. 263 00:17:42,326 --> 00:17:44,334 He's like, uh, (Clicks lips) 264 00:17:44,335 --> 00:17:46,363 Stop it. (Gasps) 265 00:17:46,364 --> 00:17:49,424 (Indistinct whispering) 266 00:18:00,979 --> 00:18:03,381 (Amy) Walking through the basement of this house, 267 00:18:03,382 --> 00:18:07,591 there's a large man who's blocking the doorway and won't stop yelling at me. 268 00:18:07,592 --> 00:18:11,495 I think he's trying to stop me from seeing what's in the back of that room. 269 00:18:11,496 --> 00:18:15,494 He's, like, retreating, because I didn't leave. 270 00:18:15,495 --> 00:18:20,604 And, um, he doesn't really want to give me any more information. 271 00:18:20,605 --> 00:18:23,154 Um, and he's just like, just don't touch anything. 272 00:18:23,155 --> 00:18:26,575 Just don't touch anything. 273 00:18:33,216 --> 00:18:37,806 (Steve) I still don't know what to make of this woman Kelly. 274 00:18:37,807 --> 00:18:40,724 She lives in a house built by the founder of Great Falls, 275 00:18:40,725 --> 00:18:44,595 and she thinks his dead wife is planting thoughts into her head. 276 00:18:44,596 --> 00:18:47,765 I'm gonna go talk to the guys who did remodeling in the house. 277 00:18:47,766 --> 00:18:50,879 I'm gonna find out if their story jives with what Kelly is telling me. 278 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,947 Kelly told me you guys did some work in there, 279 00:18:52,948 --> 00:18:55,473 and she said you had some strange things happen. 280 00:18:55,474 --> 00:18:58,868 Um, one time, when we were working on the trim work in the living room area, 281 00:18:58,869 --> 00:19:01,813 we heard this female voice coming from the kitchen area. 282 00:19:01,814 --> 00:19:04,984 And I said, well, great, Kelly's here. So we walk out there and, 283 00:19:04,985 --> 00:19:08,045 there's nobody there. 284 00:19:08,110 --> 00:19:11,086 All of a sudden, we hear these footsteps upstairs. 285 00:19:11,087 --> 00:19:13,279 So I said, well, she must be upstairs. 286 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:18,211 And so Mark runs upstairs, and he came back and he goes, there's nobody there. 287 00:19:18,212 --> 00:19:22,054 There'd be times, uh, that he'd be gone picking me up material, 288 00:19:22,055 --> 00:19:24,667 and, uh, I'd hear somebody talking. 289 00:19:24,668 --> 00:19:27,624 You know, it's full conversation, a woman's voice. 290 00:19:27,625 --> 00:19:29,653 And I'm thinking, oh, great, they're back. 291 00:19:29,654 --> 00:19:31,598 I go out there to go see where he parked 292 00:19:31,599 --> 00:19:33,493 and grab my material, and they're not even here. 293 00:19:33,494 --> 00:19:37,121 Nobody's here, you know. It's just me and the house. 294 00:19:37,122 --> 00:19:39,367 (Steve) Now you guys won't go back in the house, right? 295 00:19:39,368 --> 00:19:41,768 - No. - No. 296 00:19:42,973 --> 00:19:45,973 (Eerie music playing) 297 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:53,280 (Stairs creaking) 298 00:19:59,979 --> 00:20:05,879 This woman's saying, you know, I just don't want any more of this going on. 299 00:20:06,232 --> 00:20:11,374 You know, I just want to sleep, and I just want to relax. 300 00:20:11,375 --> 00:20:14,104 - Who's saying this? - This lady. 301 00:20:14,105 --> 00:20:17,432 It's the same lady as... 302 00:20:17,433 --> 00:20:19,833 Downstairs... 303 00:20:20,318 --> 00:20:24,325 But she's kind of, like, walking away from me. 304 00:20:24,326 --> 00:20:27,419 She thinks, you know, that we're evil. 305 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:31,560 And, uh, that we shouldn't be here. 306 00:20:32,122 --> 00:20:33,966 These children... 307 00:20:33,967 --> 00:20:37,627 She's trying to protect them. 308 00:20:41,264 --> 00:20:45,276 She can't do the things that she wants to do. 309 00:20:45,277 --> 00:20:48,805 Um, because there's all these different people that come. 310 00:20:48,806 --> 00:20:54,578 And different things happening, and they don't make sense to her. 311 00:20:54,579 --> 00:21:00,479 And, uh, she's gonna leave, because she thinks that we're evil. 312 00:21:03,989 --> 00:21:07,357 (Steve) Since Kelly's convinced she's seeing the ghost of Valeria Gibson. 313 00:21:07,358 --> 00:21:12,458 I need to find out more about the Gibson family. 314 00:21:14,931 --> 00:21:17,721 Paris Gibson is legendary in Great Falls. 315 00:21:17,722 --> 00:21:20,307 He founded the city in 1883. 316 00:21:20,308 --> 00:21:25,259 You can't even spit in this town without hitting something with his name on it. 317 00:21:25,260 --> 00:21:29,112 What's weird is, I can't find much on Valeria. 318 00:21:29,113 --> 00:21:33,750 Not even solid evidence as to when or if she ever lived in that house. 319 00:21:33,751 --> 00:21:36,612 She did have two sons... Theodore and Philip... 320 00:21:36,613 --> 00:21:39,362 Who were both very involved in Paris' business. 321 00:21:39,363 --> 00:21:43,927 And two other children that were born before them but died at a very young age. 322 00:21:43,928 --> 00:21:48,601 But I can't find a single portrait or picture of Valeria around this town. 323 00:21:48,602 --> 00:21:51,101 And that's a bit suspicious. 324 00:21:51,102 --> 00:21:54,102 (Eerie music playing) 325 00:21:58,642 --> 00:22:01,462 (Footsteps echoing) 326 00:22:03,814 --> 00:22:08,497 (Amy) I'm hearing a guy yell at me that nobody wants me here. 327 00:22:08,498 --> 00:22:10,520 Okay, this is a very... 328 00:22:10,521 --> 00:22:12,921 Quiet group. 329 00:22:13,995 --> 00:22:15,959 They don't like outsiders. 330 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,361 (Men speaking indistinctly) 331 00:22:18,362 --> 00:22:20,163 There are men. 332 00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:23,361 How are these men that are around her related? 333 00:22:23,362 --> 00:22:26,602 I think they're family. 334 00:22:36,112 --> 00:22:39,068 There's something really... 335 00:22:39,069 --> 00:22:41,109 Foul... 336 00:22:41,552 --> 00:22:43,592 Foul... 337 00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:48,319 And nasty. 338 00:22:48,456 --> 00:22:50,436 And... 339 00:22:52,095 --> 00:22:56,045 I think someone who was a little... 340 00:22:56,046 --> 00:22:58,368 Mentally unstable. 341 00:22:58,369 --> 00:23:00,589 (Laughter) 342 00:23:00,832 --> 00:23:05,432 They're screaming. They're screaming, we will hurt you. 343 00:23:05,433 --> 00:23:08,923 Don't think that we won't. 344 00:23:08,924 --> 00:23:11,984 (Indistinct whispering) 345 00:23:20,311 --> 00:23:23,311 (Eerie music playing) 346 00:23:27,788 --> 00:23:32,435 How are these men that are around her related? 347 00:23:32,436 --> 00:23:34,529 Um, I think... 348 00:23:34,530 --> 00:23:37,170 They're family. 349 00:23:38,867 --> 00:23:42,947 I think someone who was a little... 350 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,153 Mentally unstable. 351 00:23:45,154 --> 00:23:46,985 (Laughter) 352 00:23:46,986 --> 00:23:49,655 And it's so weird. Yeah, it's weird. 353 00:23:49,656 --> 00:23:54,431 They're screaming. They're screaming, we will hurt you. 354 00:23:54,432 --> 00:23:57,972 Don't think that we won't. 355 00:24:03,135 --> 00:24:05,776 (Steve) Continuing my research into the Gibson family, 356 00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:10,242 I read some disturbing things about Paris Gibson's sons Theodore and Philip. 357 00:24:10,243 --> 00:24:12,849 Since Theodore also lived in Kelly's house for quite a while, 358 00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:16,154 I'm meeting with a town historian to get his thoughts on the two sons. 359 00:24:16,155 --> 00:24:18,695 Uh, do you know anything about the sons themselves? 360 00:24:18,696 --> 00:24:24,366 In many ways, I think of the two sons as good cop/bad cop. 361 00:24:24,367 --> 00:24:27,371 Philip was a toughie. 362 00:24:27,372 --> 00:24:31,952 He was in fights. He was Paris Gibson's enforcer. 363 00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:37,853 Uh, Theodore was the good cop, and it was almost like they were playing roles. 364 00:24:39,382 --> 00:24:42,382 (Eerie music playing) 365 00:24:50,463 --> 00:24:54,543 (Amy) Some guy was hitting the guy. 366 00:24:55,398 --> 00:24:57,758 Sometimes when I touch objects, 367 00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:01,927 my mind is flooded with the residual imprint that lives within them. 368 00:25:01,928 --> 00:25:06,810 It's basically like opening up a window to another point in time. 369 00:25:06,811 --> 00:25:10,531 Somebody hit him on his hands. 370 00:25:11,952 --> 00:25:15,099 The guy came up and just went, bam bam bam! 371 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:19,660 And I think he broke some of his fingers. 372 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,699 - The other guy was a nut job. - (Matt) Which one? 373 00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:27,620 The one who's hitting this other guy's hands. 374 00:25:27,997 --> 00:25:30,895 The guy was, like, just in shock. 375 00:25:30,896 --> 00:25:33,228 (Voice echoing) What's wrong with you? 376 00:25:33,229 --> 00:25:37,009 What... why are you doing that? 377 00:25:42,311 --> 00:25:47,171 Philip, uh, was sent to Warm Springs, Montana. 378 00:25:47,174 --> 00:25:50,119 To the state mental hospital. 379 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,791 The medical records say in his case it was exhaustion of paresis, 380 00:25:54,792 --> 00:25:56,492 and that is a mental disorder. 381 00:25:56,493 --> 00:25:59,395 And he died in the mental hospital. 382 00:25:59,396 --> 00:26:03,310 Ironically, later the other son, Theodore. 383 00:26:03,311 --> 00:26:06,848 Suffered some similar mental problems. 384 00:26:06,849 --> 00:26:10,787 And he was sent to Warm Springs, as well. 385 00:26:10,788 --> 00:26:13,976 So both of her sons died in the state mental hospital? 386 00:26:13,977 --> 00:26:16,617 That's correct. 387 00:26:18,127 --> 00:26:20,525 The other guy was just like... (Laughs crazily) 388 00:26:20,526 --> 00:26:23,598 Like, he thought it was just funny. 389 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:27,019 He was definitely unstable. 390 00:26:30,842 --> 00:26:34,634 (Steve) Now that I have some solid facts about the Paris Gibson family home. 391 00:26:34,635 --> 00:26:40,399 It's time to find out more about the house after the family died off. 392 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,498 Kelly's neighbor Mark was born and raised in the house next door, 393 00:26:43,499 --> 00:26:45,875 and has lived there for over 40 years. 394 00:26:45,876 --> 00:26:48,540 Mark, as I was talking to Kelly about what's going on at her house, 395 00:26:48,541 --> 00:26:50,858 she said that... 396 00:26:50,859 --> 00:26:53,446 She thinks she's living with the spirit of Valeria Gibson. 397 00:26:53,447 --> 00:26:55,141 What... what do you think about that? 398 00:26:55,142 --> 00:26:59,682 Um, yeah, actually, I think it's... it's very possible. 399 00:26:59,683 --> 00:27:04,300 And the reason being is, uh, things I've experienced over there myself. 400 00:27:04,301 --> 00:27:06,122 Now have you seen anything at her house? 401 00:27:06,123 --> 00:27:07,984 I haven't seen anything, but I've felt things. 402 00:27:07,985 --> 00:27:11,585 Absolutely, I've felt things. 403 00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:14,034 I have felt threatened... 404 00:27:14,035 --> 00:27:18,719 Um, times where I would not go in that house. 405 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,970 Well, that's strange, because she has a totally different outlook about it. 406 00:27:21,971 --> 00:27:23,760 She doesn't have any fear of it. 407 00:27:23,761 --> 00:27:27,030 It seemed that, um, whatever was going on over there, 408 00:27:27,031 --> 00:27:30,511 it was focused towards men. 409 00:27:30,798 --> 00:27:34,398 She had workers that would... 410 00:27:34,482 --> 00:27:38,894 Have a lot of issues, hear a lot of things, and refuse to go in her home. 411 00:27:38,895 --> 00:27:40,512 What do you know about her house? 412 00:27:40,513 --> 00:27:42,971 I've been born and raised in this neighborhood, in this house, 413 00:27:42,972 --> 00:27:44,512 and I know quite a bit about it. 414 00:27:44,513 --> 00:27:49,252 A lot of these older homes were converted into apartments. 415 00:27:49,253 --> 00:27:54,176 Kelly's home was, um, turned into a renter or boardinghouse. 416 00:27:54,177 --> 00:27:56,360 What kind of, uh, people were living here? 417 00:27:56,361 --> 00:27:59,463 In the early years, when they first started, it was military personnel. 418 00:27:59,464 --> 00:28:01,483 In Kelly's place, it was a little different. 419 00:28:01,484 --> 00:28:05,186 The people that were renting exclusively over at... 420 00:28:05,187 --> 00:28:08,288 The Gibson home were... 421 00:28:08,289 --> 00:28:10,890 Mentally challenged. 422 00:28:10,891 --> 00:28:14,445 People that were out of, um, an institution. 423 00:28:14,446 --> 00:28:15,767 - Really? - Yes. 424 00:28:15,768 --> 00:28:19,124 The owner that I remember as growing up. 425 00:28:19,125 --> 00:28:20,710 He... 426 00:28:20,711 --> 00:28:23,311 He went insane. 427 00:28:23,312 --> 00:28:27,358 But I do remember him being escorted out of his home. 428 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,027 And I... that's what I remember, sitting on the front porch, 429 00:28:30,028 --> 00:28:33,270 watching him being taken out... 430 00:28:33,271 --> 00:28:35,837 Literally in a white straitjacket. 431 00:28:35,838 --> 00:28:40,504 It was... it was a big ordeal, and it was a spectacle. 432 00:28:40,505 --> 00:28:46,405 I mean, he was taken to Warm Springs after living in that home. 433 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,129 (Steve) So let me get this straight... 434 00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:52,650 This guy that used to own the Gibson house wound up in a mental hospital? 435 00:28:52,651 --> 00:28:55,342 Paris Gibson's kids, too? 436 00:28:55,343 --> 00:29:00,191 If Kelly's having a mental breakdown, she wouldn't be the first one in this house. 437 00:29:00,192 --> 00:29:03,192 (Eerie music playing) 438 00:29:13,237 --> 00:29:17,317 Man, I am getting a lot of people. 439 00:29:17,970 --> 00:29:23,126 When I first walked into this house, the amount of activity I saw was pretty normal. 440 00:29:23,127 --> 00:29:26,350 But the longer I stay here, the more I feel consumed 441 00:29:26,351 --> 00:29:30,300 by the abnormal amount of the dead vying for my attention. 442 00:29:30,301 --> 00:29:35,521 There's a lot of, uh, of people coming and going. 443 00:29:37,061 --> 00:29:42,034 I mean, there's more than, uh, would be normal... 444 00:29:42,035 --> 00:29:44,555 In the house. 445 00:29:45,626 --> 00:29:47,666 (Sighs) 446 00:29:50,264 --> 00:29:53,684 What is with these people? 447 00:29:54,327 --> 00:29:57,087 It's just weird. 448 00:29:58,908 --> 00:30:01,629 And there's so much, uh... 449 00:30:01,630 --> 00:30:04,105 Sadness, uh... 450 00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:06,135 (Groans) 451 00:30:06,136 --> 00:30:09,256 And illness and, uh... 452 00:30:10,073 --> 00:30:15,973 Yeah, lots of people, like, climbing in and out of the windows. 453 00:30:16,569 --> 00:30:22,469 And then people who don't want to talk, who are taunting us. 454 00:30:22,598 --> 00:30:27,458 We have one who's having psychological issues. 455 00:30:28,084 --> 00:30:33,904 And one who doesn't like us, because we're not from here. 456 00:30:34,442 --> 00:30:38,679 (Amy) Is this really happening, or am I crazy? 457 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,740 (Indistinct whispering) 458 00:30:49,229 --> 00:30:52,229 (Eerie music playing) 459 00:31:06,253 --> 00:31:09,168 Now that Amy and I have finished with our investigation, 460 00:31:09,169 --> 00:31:13,542 this is the first time we'll be hearing each other's findings. 461 00:31:13,543 --> 00:31:16,457 Kelly's a little on edge about what we're gonna reveal, 462 00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:19,744 so she asked her neighbor Mark to join her for some moral support. 463 00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:21,335 He reluctantly agreed. 464 00:31:21,336 --> 00:31:24,902 The reason we were called in is Kelly's had some issues in the house. 465 00:31:24,903 --> 00:31:27,749 I'd like Kelly to now tell you about her interactions. 466 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:29,771 (Kelly) A year and a half ago, I bought this house. 467 00:31:29,772 --> 00:31:33,378 And Paris Gibson was the founder of Great Falls, and this was his house. 468 00:31:33,379 --> 00:31:37,615 And, um, he lived here with his wife Valeria. 469 00:31:37,616 --> 00:31:42,053 And I've been communicating with a woman for the past year and a half. 470 00:31:42,054 --> 00:31:44,616 And I believe that it's Valeria. 471 00:31:44,617 --> 00:31:49,327 I would like to know if I am totally crazy. 472 00:31:49,328 --> 00:31:51,486 Well, you're not crazy. 473 00:31:51,487 --> 00:31:55,267 Um, I encountered a woman here. 474 00:31:55,528 --> 00:31:57,064 Wow. 475 00:31:57,065 --> 00:32:01,096 When I came in, she was the first person I connected with. 476 00:32:01,097 --> 00:32:04,675 And had two children that she was protecting with her. 477 00:32:04,676 --> 00:32:08,117 She thinks, you know, that we're evil. 478 00:32:08,118 --> 00:32:11,742 And, uh, that we shouldn't be here. 479 00:32:11,743 --> 00:32:13,844 These children... 480 00:32:13,845 --> 00:32:17,117 She's trying to protect them. 481 00:32:17,118 --> 00:32:20,584 During my background investigation, I found out that Valeria had four children. 482 00:32:20,585 --> 00:32:22,748 Two of them actually died at a very young age. 483 00:32:22,749 --> 00:32:25,315 One was 1, and one was 2. 484 00:32:25,316 --> 00:32:27,954 Um, well, I know she was protecting them. 485 00:32:27,955 --> 00:32:30,086 She wouldn't let me interact with them at all. 486 00:32:30,087 --> 00:32:33,496 She wouldn't let me see them, so that there would be no, 487 00:32:33,497 --> 00:32:35,120 interaction with the children. 488 00:32:35,121 --> 00:32:38,659 Because she wanted to protect them as much as possible. 489 00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:40,398 And... 490 00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:43,166 She's surrounded by a lot of men. 491 00:32:43,167 --> 00:32:46,111 And it was hard to communicate with her, 492 00:32:46,112 --> 00:32:49,297 because the men didn't want her to talk to me. 493 00:32:49,298 --> 00:32:51,953 And they were kind of making her feel guilty. 494 00:32:51,954 --> 00:32:57,359 And she felt, um, that communicating with me might be evil. 495 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,393 Kelly, tell her the story that you relayed to me 496 00:33:00,394 --> 00:33:03,001 about what you think might have went on here. 497 00:33:03,002 --> 00:33:05,234 Well, Valeria Gibson... 498 00:33:05,235 --> 00:33:08,329 I feel, I guess, that she's a very intelligent woman. 499 00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:11,541 And very outspoken, but she couldn't speak. 500 00:33:11,542 --> 00:33:14,092 She was repressed. 501 00:33:14,093 --> 00:33:17,095 She was not allowed to... 502 00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:18,990 To talk about anything. 503 00:33:18,991 --> 00:33:21,271 And she... 504 00:33:22,722 --> 00:33:28,045 Has sort of communicated to me that a lot of bad things have happened in this house. 505 00:33:28,046 --> 00:33:31,826 And that those men were responsible for a lot of very bad things. 506 00:33:31,827 --> 00:33:35,454 Yes, I would agree with that 100%. 507 00:33:35,455 --> 00:33:38,035 Um, in fact... 508 00:33:38,465 --> 00:33:41,281 I did get her death. 509 00:33:41,282 --> 00:33:46,861 I did see her running and possibly falling down the stairs. 510 00:33:46,862 --> 00:33:49,968 (Amy) She's, like, running up the stairs. 511 00:33:49,969 --> 00:33:53,164 She's falling back down. 512 00:33:53,165 --> 00:33:56,825 Oh, I think she got murdered. 513 00:33:57,117 --> 00:33:59,404 I felt like her death was not natural. 514 00:33:59,405 --> 00:34:02,024 It... it was a murder. 515 00:34:02,025 --> 00:34:04,176 I... wow. Wow. 516 00:34:04,177 --> 00:34:06,893 Because that's exactly what I said to Steve. 517 00:34:06,894 --> 00:34:09,912 What she's communicated to me... 518 00:34:09,913 --> 00:34:11,714 Wow, um... 519 00:34:11,715 --> 00:34:16,752 Is that she was pushed down the third-floor staircase and broke her neck. 520 00:34:16,753 --> 00:34:18,914 - Wow. - Mm hmm. 521 00:34:18,915 --> 00:34:21,500 And the... the newspapers had reported... 522 00:34:21,501 --> 00:34:24,070 That she fell off the Park Hotel. 523 00:34:24,071 --> 00:34:28,084 But that was not what happened. She was murdered here. 524 00:34:28,085 --> 00:34:31,498 (Steve) The odd thing about it, there's not much, I mean, there's newspaper articles. 525 00:34:31,499 --> 00:34:35,993 There's only two. One says she died accidentally from a fall. 526 00:34:35,994 --> 00:34:38,853 And the other one just says she died. They're contradicting. 527 00:34:38,854 --> 00:34:40,386 Mm-hmm. 528 00:34:40,387 --> 00:34:44,640 To top it all off, the death certificate was signed off on, which I have. 529 00:34:44,641 --> 00:34:47,209 And it said that it was an accidental death. 530 00:34:47,210 --> 00:34:49,190 But... 531 00:34:49,666 --> 00:34:52,250 That's it... just accidental. 532 00:34:52,251 --> 00:34:57,388 And it was actually signed off on by her brother-in-law, her sister's husband. 533 00:34:57,389 --> 00:35:00,492 When you look at the facts surrounding Valeria's death. 534 00:35:00,493 --> 00:35:03,217 A lot of fingers point towards the Gibson family. 535 00:35:03,218 --> 00:35:06,068 Kelly might be on to something, it's very possible, 536 00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:08,540 this could have been some kind of a cover-up. 537 00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:11,894 She was transported through the underground tunnel from this house, 538 00:35:11,895 --> 00:35:14,063 to the Park Hotel. 539 00:35:14,064 --> 00:35:17,298 And she... her body was dumped off. 540 00:35:17,299 --> 00:35:19,464 Wow. Okay. 541 00:35:19,465 --> 00:35:22,268 And that's what I told Steve. 542 00:35:22,269 --> 00:35:27,215 Amy, I saw the look on your face when Kelly mentioned the underground tunnels. 543 00:35:27,216 --> 00:35:30,559 Um, what I can recall is that... 544 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,452 I was in the basement, and I wanted to go down further, 545 00:35:34,453 --> 00:35:36,890 which made no sense to me at the time. 546 00:35:36,891 --> 00:35:40,218 It was kind of a little frustrating. 547 00:35:40,219 --> 00:35:43,111 I feel like there's, like.. 548 00:35:43,112 --> 00:35:44,911 More down. 549 00:35:44,912 --> 00:35:48,332 Like a little cellar area. 550 00:35:49,071 --> 00:35:50,889 When Kelly mentioned about the tunnels, 551 00:35:50,890 --> 00:35:55,034 I called in a guy, Brad, and he used a system called ground-penetrating radar. 552 00:35:55,035 --> 00:35:57,027 They do a lot of this testing around here for 553 00:35:57,028 --> 00:35:58,938 - old mine shafts and stuff like that. - Oh. 554 00:35:58,939 --> 00:36:01,440 So I had him do a test here. 555 00:36:01,441 --> 00:36:04,235 Um, he didn't find any tunnels, 556 00:36:04,236 --> 00:36:06,593 but what he did find was, uh... 557 00:36:06,594 --> 00:36:11,183 Areas where it looked like there may have been tunnels that were filled in. 558 00:36:11,184 --> 00:36:13,729 - They've been filled in. - How do you know that? 559 00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:17,056 I don't know. I can't tell you that. I just know it. 560 00:36:17,057 --> 00:36:20,229 Because you can't tell when you go down there that there's anything at all. 561 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:21,237 Right, I know. 562 00:36:21,238 --> 00:36:23,124 - Mark and I have talked about this... - Yeah. 563 00:36:23,125 --> 00:36:25,443 And I'm like, I have to get in this tunnel. 564 00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:27,332 I have to get in this tunnel. 565 00:36:27,333 --> 00:36:31,506 Right. I understand that feeling totally. 566 00:36:31,507 --> 00:36:34,567 (Indistinct whispering) 567 00:36:35,557 --> 00:36:39,957 One of the things that uh, I did get as well, was... 568 00:36:39,958 --> 00:36:43,618 Something about, uh, five men. 569 00:36:44,606 --> 00:36:46,159 And two of the men were... 570 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,280 Were unstable mentally. 571 00:36:51,573 --> 00:36:55,398 (Amy) Some guy was hitting the guy. 572 00:36:55,399 --> 00:36:58,513 The guy came up and just went, bam bam bam! 573 00:36:58,514 --> 00:37:01,482 And I think he broke some of his fingers. 574 00:37:01,483 --> 00:37:04,423 Guy was a nut job. 575 00:37:05,165 --> 00:37:08,290 Well, when I was speaking with Ken, the historian in town. 576 00:37:08,291 --> 00:37:13,527 He mentioned that the son Philip was the muscle for the father, so... 577 00:37:13,528 --> 00:37:16,348 Is he still here? 578 00:37:18,166 --> 00:37:20,026 Yes. 579 00:37:21,937 --> 00:37:24,997 (Indistinct whispering) 580 00:37:37,594 --> 00:37:39,958 Is he still here? 581 00:37:39,959 --> 00:37:41,624 Yes. 582 00:37:41,625 --> 00:37:46,462 But he came in from outside, and so he's not in the house. 583 00:37:46,463 --> 00:37:49,943 He's outside of the house. 584 00:37:50,092 --> 00:37:54,036 Well, it turns out that both the sons, Theodore and Philip, went insane. 585 00:37:54,037 --> 00:37:55,028 (Gasps) 586 00:37:55,029 --> 00:37:56,287 Oh, my. 587 00:37:56,288 --> 00:37:59,047 And I got Theodore's death certificate here, 588 00:37:59,048 --> 00:38:04,748 and it says exhaustion of general paralysis of the insane. 589 00:38:04,938 --> 00:38:08,569 Philip went insane, also, according to the documentation on his death certificate. 590 00:38:08,570 --> 00:38:11,157 Exhaustion of para... same thing... insane. 591 00:38:11,158 --> 00:38:12,826 Wow. 592 00:38:12,827 --> 00:38:15,665 The most frustrating thing about this case for me... 593 00:38:15,666 --> 00:38:19,867 There's nothing about Valeria anywhere. There's no portraits. There's no pictures. 594 00:38:19,868 --> 00:38:21,730 Apparently somebody wanted her to be anonymous. 595 00:38:21,731 --> 00:38:23,673 Why is there no documentation on her? 596 00:38:23,674 --> 00:38:25,326 - Right. - Why are there no photos of her? 597 00:38:25,327 --> 00:38:28,644 I don't get that. An influential man like that... 598 00:38:28,645 --> 00:38:32,390 You would think the woman he's married to, there would be something about her. 599 00:38:32,391 --> 00:38:34,541 - Yeah. - I think she'd become a problem. 600 00:38:34,542 --> 00:38:37,425 Because of their stature in this town. 601 00:38:37,426 --> 00:38:42,025 Her murder needed to be just wiped off the face of history, really. 602 00:38:42,026 --> 00:38:43,517 - Excuses. - Well, that's the whole... 603 00:38:43,518 --> 00:38:47,594 The suppression and how she was treated, which is horribly, so... 604 00:38:47,595 --> 00:38:50,838 Do you think the woman you saw is the same woman she saw? 605 00:38:50,839 --> 00:38:53,196 I don't know. She didn't tell me who she was. 606 00:38:53,197 --> 00:38:58,474 There was no opportunity, really, um, just because of the men coming in. 607 00:38:58,475 --> 00:39:01,844 - She's in the house. - She's guarding this house. 608 00:39:01,845 --> 00:39:04,251 - Yeah. - This was her house. 609 00:39:04,252 --> 00:39:08,184 The woman in this house stayed behind for a very specific reason. 610 00:39:08,185 --> 00:39:10,704 To guard the spirits of these two young children, 611 00:39:10,705 --> 00:39:13,410 from all of the insanity around them. 612 00:39:13,411 --> 00:39:15,993 Kelly, explain to her what you were talking with me about, 613 00:39:15,994 --> 00:39:17,497 the ink bottle you found here. 614 00:39:17,498 --> 00:39:19,001 And you said something about a diary. 615 00:39:19,002 --> 00:39:22,925 There's a diary. There's some documentation that's written down... 616 00:39:22,926 --> 00:39:26,484 Somewhere in this house of what happened to Valeria. 617 00:39:26,485 --> 00:39:31,285 But I cannot find it. This just tortures me. 618 00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:34,081 Somebody's putting stuff in there. 619 00:39:34,082 --> 00:39:37,691 (Matt) What kind of stuff are they putting in there? 620 00:39:37,692 --> 00:39:39,672 Books. 621 00:39:41,075 --> 00:39:43,300 I kind of saw like, 622 00:39:43,301 --> 00:39:47,104 her putting a little box in there or books in there. 623 00:39:47,105 --> 00:39:50,313 She told me I needed to tear the wall out to find the inkwell. 624 00:39:50,314 --> 00:39:52,896 I mean, I didn't even know it was there. 625 00:39:52,897 --> 00:39:56,151 Kelly, you just wake up sometimes and you know things. Is that right? 626 00:39:56,152 --> 00:39:57,280 That's how she talks to me. 627 00:39:57,281 --> 00:39:58,969 - It's at night in my dreams. - Right. 628 00:39:58,970 --> 00:40:02,204 I just know these things, and I'm like, this is crazy. 629 00:40:02,205 --> 00:40:05,304 Um, you know, when you're asleep is the easiest 630 00:40:05,305 --> 00:40:08,113 time for them to communicate with you. 631 00:40:08,114 --> 00:40:13,449 Because the brain is actually the most active when we're asleep. 632 00:40:13,450 --> 00:40:16,986 Which may mean that it's so active, 633 00:40:16,987 --> 00:40:22,887 that it's actually open to receiving the information from the dead. 634 00:40:24,029 --> 00:40:26,529 The other thing about the houses here... 635 00:40:26,530 --> 00:40:28,392 Uh, they made 'em into boardinghouses. 636 00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:31,191 So you had a lot of transient occupants coming in and out of here. 637 00:40:31,192 --> 00:40:35,349 Mm-hmm. I got a lot of different stories. 638 00:40:35,350 --> 00:40:38,167 Why is there such a heavy feeling or dark feeling still there? 639 00:40:38,168 --> 00:40:41,393 Sometimes a location will hold on to... 640 00:40:41,394 --> 00:40:45,388 Very traumatic, major events that have occurred. 641 00:40:45,389 --> 00:40:48,278 That leave an imprint on the location. 642 00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:51,233 Is there anything that would help... 643 00:40:51,234 --> 00:40:54,824 Prove what we're talking about. 644 00:40:54,825 --> 00:40:59,625 Valeria's death... I mean, is there anything? 645 00:40:59,662 --> 00:41:03,358 I really wish I could find more evidence to support these theories. 646 00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:04,967 It seems very possible. 647 00:41:04,968 --> 00:41:09,151 The answers we're looking for could be somewhere in this house. 648 00:41:09,152 --> 00:41:14,310 The main thing that the dead typically want us to do is to tell their stories. 649 00:41:14,311 --> 00:41:17,121 I've been in positions where I've had to tell the dead's story, 650 00:41:17,122 --> 00:41:20,568 and some people didn't react very well to it. 651 00:41:20,569 --> 00:41:26,184 Um, so you do have to be careful about how you go about it in some situations. 652 00:41:26,185 --> 00:41:30,743 (Amy) Kelly is communicating with a female apparition on a very primitive level. 653 00:41:30,744 --> 00:41:33,991 With time, she can learn how to hone her abilities... 654 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:38,061 And establish a direct line of communication with the spirit. 655 00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:41,173 If you want to, um, hear them out. 656 00:41:41,174 --> 00:41:43,439 Before you go to sleep you could say, you know, 657 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,376 it's okay to come and talk to me. 658 00:41:46,377 --> 00:41:48,501 Not through me. 659 00:41:48,502 --> 00:41:52,648 And show... you know, through my dreams you can tell me your story. 660 00:41:52,649 --> 00:41:55,576 - It'll help them. - That's amazing. 661 00:41:55,577 --> 00:41:57,411 I mean, it's just amazing, 662 00:41:57,412 --> 00:42:00,929 because it's not something that I can really tell very many people. 663 00:42:00,930 --> 00:42:02,749 - I mean, Mark knows. - Right. 664 00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:06,345 But that's not something you can actually, like, have a complete conversation with, 665 00:42:06,346 --> 00:42:09,064 because they think you're a raging lunatic. 666 00:42:09,065 --> 00:42:11,045 Right. 667 00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:13,861 Thank you. 668 00:42:13,862 --> 00:42:19,762 Sync & corrections by P2Pfiend. 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