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Space, the final frontier.
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Science fiction
is basically saying
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there are no limits.
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-Space is anything we want it to be.
-Yes!
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The scale of the universe
is unbelievably stunning.
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We are asking
those big questions,
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like "Where are we going?"
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and "What does it say about us
as humans?"
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Think it answers
something elemental
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in human beings,
which is, "We love danger."
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Space travel
sounds rather perilous.
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They will never get me onto
one of those dreadful starships.
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Science fiction
inspired the rocketeers
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who brought us to the moon.
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And that's just the beginning.
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Science fiction holds out hope
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for even more
incredible discoveries.
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I think we're curious
in our bones
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about going
into the galaxy.
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What has the galaxy
ever done for you?
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Why would you wanna
save it?
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Because I'm one of the idiots
who lives in it!
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Humanity is hardwired
to explore
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and to exploit.
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We are citizens
of the universe.
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We belong there, too.
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I hate space.
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I've been thinking
about this idea
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that space is anything
we want it to be.
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It's the great unknown,
and we can project
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our fantasies and our ideas,
our sociology,
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and, you know,
we can use it just as an excuse
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to get to a completely
different culture,
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or we can take it
at face-value
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as a problem we need to solve.
Yeah.
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And I sorta think
about science f...
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Space science-fiction
as, you know, on the one hand,
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you got the hard-tech stuff,
like "2001,"
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and then, at the other end
of the spectrum,
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it's more space
as a kind of
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complete unfettering
of the imagination.
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You got...
You got two things.
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No matter how you do it,
whether it's "2001"
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or "Star Wars,"
they're adventures.
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The... The...
The big bogeyman is the unknown.
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Right.
Because the thing about humans...
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It's always been
with us...
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Is we have
an imagination.
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The night sky has always been
the great mystery.
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One, it's terrifying
because you walk out in it
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and you get eaten.
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And the other part is that
there's...
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There's things up there.
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I mean, the stars, the planets.
Yeah.
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And the things have
to mean something.
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So this is a primal attraction,
is what you're saying.
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Yes.
And man has curiosity.
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Curiosity and imagination
bring you things like stories.
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So you're saying
it's a mystical connection.
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-Yep, yep.
-But there's a mystical connection with the sky
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and with stars
and all things,
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so they relate directly
to us.
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Isn't that what we try to do
with our movies?
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-Yeah.
-Take... Capture a little bit of that awe
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and bring it into
a movie theater
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and... and feel what it might
be like to go out there?
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Houston, I have a bad
feeling about this mission.
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What Alfonso Cuar�n
does with the camera
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at the very beginning
of "Gravity"
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is you have this extended
single-camera shot
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where you watch
both George Clooney
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and Sandra Bullock
float around space,
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and you have these images
of how small a human
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can be in front of
the entire planet,
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and then the camera
will spin around
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and you'll see
how small a human
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is in front of the vastness
of the universe.
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Can't beat the view.
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That movie really
brought people to space.
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It showed them not only
what the view looked like,
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but also what it felt
like to have the view,
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and that was so important
to me to be able to share
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because the view
is unimaginable.
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It was so clean and pristine,
it almost hurt your eyes
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because the edges are
so sharp,
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and it's giant.
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So, what do you like
about being up here?
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The silence.
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When I was living up
on the space station,
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my little brother met
Sandra Bullock's brother-in-law.
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He said, "Well, you know,
my sister-in-law's
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making this movie. Maybe
your sister would talk to her."
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And my little brother said,
"She's been up there
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for a couple of months
with five guys,
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and I think she'd love
to talk to Sandra Bullock."
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How feeling?
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Like a Chihuahua
that's being tumble-dried.
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Some of the things
that she wanted to know
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were what's it like for me
when I wake up in the morning,
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what's a hard thing,
what's an easy thing,
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so that she understands how
she can make space look real.
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Sandra, I thought,
looked purposeful
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and not like a newbie.
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Space travel has been
a science-fiction theme
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for a long, long, long time.
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It is really fantastic
the lengths
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that the early
science-fiction writers went to
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to get a space craft
from the Earth even to the moon.
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George M�li�s was
originally a stage magician
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who got enamored
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with the brand-new art form
of cinematography.
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And not only, did he invent
the science-fiction movie,
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he essentially invented
movie special effects.
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And it was really based
on the two giants
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of science fiction
at the time...
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H.G. Wells and Jules Verne.
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Jules Verne provided
the plot and story
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for the first half of the movie
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with his
"From the Earth to the Moon."
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The second half was based
on H.G. Wells'
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"The First Men in the Moon."
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Early depictions of
space travel show characters
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just moving about freely,
opening up the door,
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and walking out into space
with no trouble.
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But within a couple decades,
things change pretty quickly
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in cinematic depictions of,
outer space and space travel,
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so, as early as the 1920s,
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you have films like
"Woman in the Moon"
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by Fritz Lang,
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where characters
are strapped into their seats,
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and as the ship
is taking off,
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they can feel the pressure
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of the g-force on their chests,
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struggling to breathe
as they lift off.
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And then you've got
writers that worked
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for John W. Campbell Jr.
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When he began editing
"Astounding Science Fiction,"
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who were held to a standard
of scientific verisimilitude,
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and that's when you
start getting realistic,
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believable space adventures.
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No time for count-off!
Stand by.
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Fire!
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Tell us about this trip
to the moon.
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Do you... Do you think
this is possible?
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Yes. Yes.
It's quite possible.
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-We're here, aren't we?
-Yeah.
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Not only are we here,
but,
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it can be done.
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It can be done
as soon as anyone
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is willing to foot
the bill to do it.
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Robert Heinlein was the guru
of hard science-fiction,
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but I think,
before that and beyond that,
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he was the guru
of logical science-fiction.
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Heinlein asked the question...
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Which is the classic hard
science-fiction question...
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How do you do it?
How do you solve that problem?
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Even today, that's a key theme
in science fiction.
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The pre-chain reaction
is out of control.
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We're rapidly expanding.
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Multiple satellites are down
and they keep on falling.
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The Cuar�ns wanted to
recreate the good, the bad,
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and the ugly of space travel.
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Look, we need to get
the hell out of here.
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-All right.
-You need some help there, Matt?
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-No, don't wait for us.
-It's stuck!
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One of the things
I discussed
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with the Cuar�ns
was the Kessler syndrome
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and the notion
that a destroyed satellite
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can lead to debris,
which destroys more satellites
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and more debris.
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Space debris is a real concern
for any spacecraft
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that has to travel through
low Earth orbit today.
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Explore.
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At the speeds debris can travel,
a small object like a bolt
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can hit you
with the kinetic energy
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of a howitzer round.
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The film "Gravity"
is visually compelling
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because it really sets up
the unforgiving dynamic,
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how just the smallest step
in the wrong direction
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is going to send the entire
series of events tumbling.
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And it only takes that much.
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No!
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The only really
big mistake they made
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in that movie is that, if you
were up on a space station,
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the last thing you'd do
is let George Clooney go.
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There's a lot of secrets
in the universe.
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We don't know anything.
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That's the one thing
I do know for sure.
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But we've gotta get
out of our solar system.
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We've gotta get
to another solar system.
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Yeah, but Einstein says
you can't travel
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faster than the speed of light.
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Science fiction
is basically saying
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there are no limits.
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-That's right.
-Think outside the box.
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-No matter what somebody tells you...
-Right.
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No matter
what you've learned,
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throw all that away and say,
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"I can do anything
I wanna do.
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You're in a completely
different universe."
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Traveling through hyperspace
ain't like dustin' crops, boy.
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We sometimes forget
that space
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is cosmologically big.
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Traveling to the rest of
the universe would take
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tens, thousands of years
with current technology.
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The reason we measure them
in light-years
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is because it takes
that long
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for the speed of light
to travel that distance.
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Faster-than-light travel is
the holy grail of space travel.
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And right now,
it's the "baloneum" that we...
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Baloneum is that stuff you
make up to make the story work
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and it's different
from "handwaveum,"
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which is how you distract
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the reader or the viewer,
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but... and it's not "unobtainium."
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That's a diff...
But baloneum is that stuff.
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If we had the right baloneum,
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we could make
faster-than-light travel work.
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So, here is a perfect
limitation for an artist.
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You can't go faster
than light speed.
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How are we gonna get around it
to explore the universe?
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Science-fiction writers said,
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"Okay, well, we have
to create a speed
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faster than light speed."
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Are you ready to say
goodbye to our solar system?
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Execute jump.
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I'm not sure
what's wrong here.
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Is the parking brake on?
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Compressor.
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What a rush.
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And with that rush,
science fiction
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launches an age of exploration.
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We're down
to 0.3896th of light speed.
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"Forbidden Planet"
is one of those rare,
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big-budget
science-fiction movies
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from a time when most
science-fiction movies
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looked pretty cheesy.
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It's very easy to see
many of the things
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that later science fiction,
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specifically "Star Trek,"
if not directly took from,
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was certainly inspired by.
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The ship
on "Forbidden Planet"...
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It almost looks like
the saucer section
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of the Enterprise
without the rest of it.
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These discs
that they stand on...
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It looks just like
the transporter.
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It definitely looks like
the designers of "Star Trek"
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looked at this and said,
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"Boy, this is
a beautiful-looking movie."
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"Forbidden Planet" is
definitely less diverse,
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which makes "Star Trek" special.
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Space, the final frontier.
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The importance of "Star Trek"
is that it brought space
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into the living rooms
of Americans
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and people really
across the globe.
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It made space accessible.
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"Star Trek" was a classic,
humanistic vision
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of a kind of utopian future
that you l-live and let live.
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These are
the voyages
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of the starship Enterprise.
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Gene Roddenberry
said he wanted
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to do an all-inclusive series
in space
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with all the ideas
that could more easily be done
264
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in science fiction in the '60s
than in realistic fiction.
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To boldly go
where no man has gone before.
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So, you could deal with
controversial issues,
267
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but they weren't controversial
because they're distanced.
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They're not us.
That's not our own society.
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We did wanna get into
racial issues, sexist issues,
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that were going on at the time.
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And I think it opened a door
into an alien world
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that people could say,
"Yeah, I get that."
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It offered lots
of story opportunities
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to tell stories about
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things going on
right here on Earth.
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This is no game,
Captain.
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Half a million people
have just been killed.
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There's an episode called
"A Taste of Armageddon"
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about these two planets
that have...
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That are conducting
a virtual war.
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Computers, captain.
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They fight their war
with computers, totally.
283
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Computers don't kill
a half-million people.
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Deaths have been
registered.
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Of course, they have
24 hours to report.
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To report?
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To our
disintegration machines.
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At the very end of it,
Kirk says...
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We're human beings
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with the blood
of a million savage years
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on our hands.
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But we can stop it.
293
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We can admit
that we're killers,
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but we're not
going to kill today.
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So all of these
different stories,
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they all had a social message
buried in them.
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Gene knew what he was doing,
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the writers knew
what they were doing.
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It's up to you.
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"Star Trek" was a way of saying,
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"Look, we can do better.
302
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Things, the way they are,
303
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it's not necessarily
the way they have to be."
304
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What about the cast
of the show?
305
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I'm told that NBC only wanted
white males on the bridge.
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No women, no blacks.
307
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When I brought in
a mixed-racial crew,
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both the network
and Desilu Studios,
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which had it at that time,
came in, saying,
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"What are you doing?!
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You're going to ruin us!"
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I can tell you what happened
to me the first time
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I saw "Star Trek."
Really, before "Star Trek,"
314
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there were no people
of color in the future.
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We didn't really
exist at all anywhere,
316
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and Gene Roddenberry
created this group
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where this beautiful
black woman,
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not a mammy,
was head of communications.
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Captain, I'm picking up
a sub-space distress call,
320
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priority channel.
It's from Space Station K7.
321
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So to see her in that position,
for me,
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was, like, extraordinary.
323
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And it's why
I went to Gene
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The Next Generation,"
325
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was because of what
Nichelle Nichols showed me,
326
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which was that I had
a future in the world.
327
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What about you?
Do you speak Romulan, cadet?
328
00:14:27,369 --> 00:14:30,639
Uhura.
All three dialects, sir.
329
00:14:30,672 --> 00:14:32,340
The day that I met
Nichelle Nichols,
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I was very nervous
331
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because that was
a first time for me
332
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to step into
someone else's shoes.
333
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And she suspended
any kind of judgment.
334
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If anything,
she handed me that torch
335
00:14:42,917 --> 00:14:44,253
and she said, "Run with it."
336
00:14:44,286 --> 00:14:45,554
The jamming signal's gone.
337
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Transport abilities
are reestablished.
338
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The main attribute
that "Star Trek"
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gives people is hope.
340
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May we together become greater
than the sum of both of us.
341
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What I took from
the original series
342
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was the love
humanity is able to have,
343
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even if it's set in a time
that they may never recognize,
344
00:15:07,475 --> 00:15:12,181
they may never meet,
the strive for that is tangible.
345
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Live long and prosper,
Spock.
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Live long and prosper.
347
00:15:17,319 --> 00:15:19,188
The cultural importance
of the "Star Trek" franchise
348
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can't be underestimated.
349
00:15:20,723 --> 00:15:24,527
We've had, to date, seven
different series, 13 films,
350
00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,065
and hundreds of novelizations,
comic books, board games,
351
00:15:29,098 --> 00:15:32,435
video games, costumes.
352
00:15:32,468 --> 00:15:35,037
Fans love "Star Trek"
because it does suggest
353
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that there will
be opportunities for us
354
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to meet each other in space
and to learn from each other.
355
00:15:39,741 --> 00:15:41,976
The most powerful
message, to me, of "Star Trek"
356
00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:45,580
was just the idea that, by
stepping out into the universe,
357
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we put our old problems
behind us
358
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and we become better people
through cooperation
359
00:15:50,552 --> 00:15:53,122
and, you know, believing in
a certain set of values.
360
00:15:54,455 --> 00:15:56,024
It's a very romantic notion,
361
00:15:56,057 --> 00:15:57,426
it's a very idealistic notion,
362
00:15:57,459 --> 00:15:59,328
but that's a universe
I wanna go live in.
363
00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,850
I wanna go get on a starship,
364
00:16:00,869 --> 00:16:02,705
I wanna be part
of the Federation.
365
00:16:05,672 --> 00:16:07,941
"2001,"
as far as I'm concerned,
366
00:16:07,974 --> 00:16:09,810
is the best science-fiction
film ever made.
367
00:16:09,844 --> 00:16:13,281
It is the quintessential
what space travel is.
368
00:16:13,314 --> 00:16:15,183
Yeah.
And it looks great.
369
00:16:15,215 --> 00:16:17,051
You know, it's... it's...
It's... it's just...
370
00:16:17,084 --> 00:16:18,853
It's impeccable the way
they put it together.
371
00:16:18,886 --> 00:16:22,924
The discovery coming overhead
endlessly is basically...
372
00:16:22,956 --> 00:16:24,591
Right.
The precursor
373
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of the... of the opening shot
of "Star Wars."
374
00:16:26,359 --> 00:16:29,229
Right.
It stunned everybody, myself included.
375
00:16:29,262 --> 00:16:33,767
Probably "2001" had more of an
influence on me than I realize.
376
00:16:33,801 --> 00:16:35,103
But at the same time,
377
00:16:35,136 --> 00:16:37,238
I was completely stoked
by that movie.
378
00:16:37,271 --> 00:16:40,241
It's brilliant.
379
00:16:40,273 --> 00:16:46,913
I think "2001" opened up
films to be a much broader
380
00:16:46,946 --> 00:16:48,782
and interesting canvas,
381
00:16:48,815 --> 00:16:51,319
in terms of what space travel
might be like,
382
00:16:51,352 --> 00:16:54,188
than anything that had
been shown before.
383
00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:56,690
Everything was believable,
even though we'd have
384
00:16:56,723 --> 00:16:59,993
our jaws on our laps
in amazement,
385
00:17:00,027 --> 00:17:04,998
but everything always
had a reality to it.
386
00:17:05,031 --> 00:17:07,067
That's absolutely the most
387
00:17:07,101 --> 00:17:09,404
meticulously accurate
science-fiction
388
00:17:09,437 --> 00:17:11,738
movie between Arthur C. Clarke,
389
00:17:11,771 --> 00:17:13,407
the hard science-fiction writer,
390
00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,942
and Stanley Kubrick,
the visionary filmmaker,
391
00:17:15,976 --> 00:17:17,745
who thought this image
was all you need.
392
00:17:17,777 --> 00:17:20,014
Let the audience figure it out.
393
00:17:20,046 --> 00:17:24,285
In that sense, everything
was a surprise
394
00:17:24,317 --> 00:17:30,391
and a visual entr�e
of unbelievable significance.
395
00:17:30,423 --> 00:17:32,759
But it's really not the...
The filmmaking part of it.
396
00:17:32,793 --> 00:17:34,796
It's the "let's go
into outer space" part of it.
397
00:17:34,828 --> 00:17:37,431
-That, too. That, too.
-And we have the reality now to deal with it,
398
00:17:37,465 --> 00:17:39,767
which is why Mars is
becoming more of a thing,
399
00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:41,802
but we have
to get people to say,
400
00:17:41,835 --> 00:17:43,336
"This is a fun adventure."
401
00:17:47,141 --> 00:17:49,877
Yee-haw!
402
00:17:49,910 --> 00:17:52,846
I guess I was probably
11 years old when I...
403
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,450
When I first saw "Star Wars."
404
00:17:55,482 --> 00:17:59,986
It was the most
magnificent experience
405
00:18:00,019 --> 00:18:02,190
I had ever had in my life.
406
00:18:02,222 --> 00:18:06,159
My... My mind was, you know,
searching for those answers
407
00:18:06,192 --> 00:18:07,961
and the world
and you're hungry
408
00:18:07,995 --> 00:18:10,298
and I looked at "Star Wars"
409
00:18:10,331 --> 00:18:14,335
and I j... I knew I wanted
to live in that world.
410
00:18:14,367 --> 00:18:18,138
I've been chasing "Star Wars"
for my entire career.
411
00:18:20,508 --> 00:18:22,075
"Star Wars" is a landmark film
412
00:18:22,108 --> 00:18:23,810
in the history of
science-fiction stories
413
00:18:23,844 --> 00:18:27,014
about space because it opened up
the excitement
414
00:18:27,046 --> 00:18:29,283
and the adventure of traveling
from planet to planet
415
00:18:29,315 --> 00:18:32,152
and made us all want
to go there with the heroes.
416
00:18:32,186 --> 00:18:35,256
-Take 555. Take two.
-Action.
417
00:18:35,288 --> 00:18:38,158
We built the cameras,
we built the optical printers,
418
00:18:38,191 --> 00:18:41,094
we had built the miniatures
all under one roof,
419
00:18:41,127 --> 00:18:44,197
which was kind of unusual.
420
00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:48,102
We could fabricate metal,
we could do machining,
421
00:18:48,134 --> 00:18:51,506
the chemistry
for the explosions.
422
00:18:51,538 --> 00:18:55,509
It was a whole litany
of things that were new.
423
00:18:55,543 --> 00:18:59,280
The first shot in the movie
was sort of the touchstone
424
00:18:59,313 --> 00:19:02,249
for whether it was
gonna work or not.
425
00:19:02,283 --> 00:19:06,053
It had a miniature
of the Star Destroyer,
426
00:19:06,085 --> 00:19:07,488
which was three feet long.
427
00:19:09,023 --> 00:19:11,859
When we saw it,
everybody went,"
428
00:19:11,892 --> 00:19:14,261
It's great."
429
00:19:14,295 --> 00:19:18,999
That is a shot of pure awe
where suddenly, as a viewer,
430
00:19:19,033 --> 00:19:21,369
you're just knocked out
by the potential of space
431
00:19:21,402 --> 00:19:22,937
and where this movie could go.
432
00:19:22,969 --> 00:19:24,337
This was revolutionary.
433
00:19:24,371 --> 00:19:28,809
It really felt like you
were standing there.
434
00:19:28,842 --> 00:19:30,311
And the ship was
coming overhead.
435
00:19:30,344 --> 00:19:34,148
It was so transformative.
436
00:19:34,181 --> 00:19:37,485
Talk about what
your influences were
437
00:19:37,517 --> 00:19:40,054
that fed into the creation
of "Star Wars."
438
00:19:40,086 --> 00:19:42,789
As much as "Star Wars" seemed to
just leap from your forehead...
439
00:19:42,823 --> 00:19:44,325
No.
Fully formed,
440
00:19:44,357 --> 00:19:45,892
it had roots that any...
441
00:19:45,925 --> 00:19:47,861
Anybody in the
science fiction world knows.
442
00:19:47,894 --> 00:19:49,195
Nothing, nothing,
nothing in this world
443
00:19:49,229 --> 00:19:50,931
pops into your head
fully formed.
444
00:19:50,965 --> 00:19:54,135
It's an accumulation of all
the things you've seen,
445
00:19:54,168 --> 00:19:56,103
and then, when you go
to regurgitate it
446
00:19:56,135 --> 00:19:58,071
into your own thing,
447
00:19:58,104 --> 00:20:00,307
you take
all the best parts.
448
00:20:00,341 --> 00:20:03,311
The roll-up... that was
taken from "Flash Gordon."
449
00:20:03,344 --> 00:20:05,345
The angle that it rolls
up the screen
450
00:20:05,379 --> 00:20:07,481
with the way the text
was arranged.
451
00:20:07,514 --> 00:20:09,350
Even the number of ellipses.
452
00:20:09,383 --> 00:20:13,086
And he was very much influenced
by the movies of Akira Kurosawa.
453
00:20:24,198 --> 00:20:27,101
So, in terms of cowboy films,
Lucas was very influenced
454
00:20:27,133 --> 00:20:30,604
by John Ford's "The Searchers,"
455
00:20:30,638 --> 00:20:33,240
which contains a scene
that very much mirrors
456
00:20:33,273 --> 00:20:36,911
the scene where Uncle Owen
and Aunt Beru are murdered.
457
00:20:45,486 --> 00:20:49,256
Martha!
Martha!
458
00:20:49,288 --> 00:20:52,093
Uncle Owen!
Aunt Beru!
459
00:20:52,125 --> 00:20:55,061
That definitely helped fuel
this notion that "Star Wars"
460
00:20:55,094 --> 00:20:56,896
is a space Western.
461
00:21:00,534 --> 00:21:03,270
One of the things that was
really critical in "Star Wars"
462
00:21:03,303 --> 00:21:05,006
was, again,
this sense of adrenaline
463
00:21:05,038 --> 00:21:08,541
and the idea
of trajectory in space.
464
00:21:08,575 --> 00:21:10,478
Almost there.
465
00:21:10,510 --> 00:21:13,380
And that brought some of that
visceral quality back to it,
466
00:21:13,413 --> 00:21:16,883
sort of the idea
of having that rush.
467
00:21:16,917 --> 00:21:19,587
I can't shake him!
468
00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:21,455
And you know,
it's interesting.
469
00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:24,458
The closer you get to something
that speed, the faster it feels.
470
00:21:24,490 --> 00:21:28,094
It will be just like
Beggar's Canyon back home.
471
00:21:28,127 --> 00:21:31,131
So that was really the idea
behind the trench
472
00:21:31,164 --> 00:21:32,932
for the Death Star.
473
00:21:32,966 --> 00:21:35,603
Let's get people
down into a space
474
00:21:35,635 --> 00:21:38,338
that's traveling
at an extreme speed
475
00:21:38,372 --> 00:21:40,908
and give you the excitement
that you get
476
00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:43,143
when you do it for real.
477
00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:45,146
I mean, there's so many
great shots in "Star Wars,"
478
00:21:45,179 --> 00:21:49,383
but I think if there's one
that makes my heart ache a bit,
479
00:21:49,415 --> 00:21:52,652
it's Luke seeing
the two suns set.
480
00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:55,089
It just has this very
"Somewhere Over the Rainbow"
481
00:21:55,122 --> 00:21:58,692
kind of wistful vibe to it.
482
00:21:58,726 --> 00:22:00,161
That was a shot
that I can relate to
483
00:22:00,193 --> 00:22:01,661
as a teenager in Texas.
484
00:22:01,694 --> 00:22:03,963
That is a shot that I think
any kid can relate to.
485
00:22:03,997 --> 00:22:08,568
This idea of "What is next
for me and how do I go?"
486
00:22:08,602 --> 00:22:11,639
There's this yearning that
makes this space story
487
00:22:11,671 --> 00:22:15,508
feel like something
that's happening to us.
488
00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:18,479
One of the reasons
why I made "Star Wars"
489
00:22:18,511 --> 00:22:20,580
was it's made
for 12-year-olds.
490
00:22:20,613 --> 00:22:23,150
It appeals to everybody, but it
was still made for 12-year-olds.
491
00:22:23,182 --> 00:22:25,085
We were all 12 once.
And I tell people,
492
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,487
"Don't underestimate
12-year-olds.
493
00:22:26,519 --> 00:22:28,122
They're smarter than the rest of us."
Right.
494
00:22:28,154 --> 00:22:30,190
They get stuff
much faster than you do.
495
00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:32,992
-Yeah.
-And the whole point was to get them to allow to think...
496
00:22:33,026 --> 00:22:34,729
To allow them to think
outside the box.
497
00:22:34,761 --> 00:22:36,463
The whole thing is
subjective and dream-like.
498
00:22:36,497 --> 00:22:38,431
Yeah, who said
Wookiees can't fly?
499
00:22:38,465 --> 00:22:40,167
Well, I said they can fly.
Yeah.
500
00:22:42,102 --> 00:22:44,138
I said, "I'm not gonna
obey the rules."
501
00:22:44,171 --> 00:22:47,208
If you can imagine it,
you can do it,
502
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,210
-but if you can't imagine it, you can't do it.
-Yeah.
503
00:22:49,242 --> 00:22:51,144
-Because...
-It's the prison of your own mind, again.
504
00:22:51,178 --> 00:22:52,979
It's that prison
of your own mind
505
00:22:53,013 --> 00:22:55,416
that allows you to do it,
and you can enjoy that
506
00:22:55,449 --> 00:22:57,183
and come up
with really crazy stuff.
507
00:22:57,217 --> 00:22:58,652
Yeah,
just look at Chewbacca.
508
00:22:58,684 --> 00:23:00,668
Well, I can guarantee you
there's no Wookiees in space.
509
00:23:00,687 --> 00:23:03,090
How do you know?
510
00:23:04,102 --> 00:23:07,640
You single-handedly
revolutionized science fiction
511
00:23:07,672 --> 00:23:11,676
in pop culture
with "Star Wars," 1977.
512
00:23:11,710 --> 00:23:14,913
'Cause it had been three decades
of downer stuff...
513
00:23:14,945 --> 00:23:18,249
Dystopian stuff,
apocalyptic stuff,
514
00:23:18,282 --> 00:23:20,251
and science fiction
was making less and less
515
00:23:20,285 --> 00:23:22,187
and less money every year
and then, all of a sudden,
516
00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:24,757
you came along
with another vision.
517
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:28,527
One of wonder and hope
and empowerment,
518
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:29,794
and boom!
519
00:23:29,827 --> 00:23:31,562
"Star Wars"
is a space opera.
520
00:23:31,596 --> 00:23:33,632
It's not science fiction.
521
00:23:33,664 --> 00:23:37,036
And because it's really
just, you know,
522
00:23:37,068 --> 00:23:39,238
one of those soap operas,
only in space.
523
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:41,072
Yeah, but it's more than that.
Well...
524
00:23:41,105 --> 00:23:42,740
And you know... And you know it is.
All right, all right.
525
00:23:42,774 --> 00:23:44,310
It's... It's a neo-myth.
526
00:23:44,343 --> 00:23:46,144
But it's... yeah, yes.
It fulfills the role
527
00:23:46,178 --> 00:23:47,813
that myth
played in society.
528
00:23:47,846 --> 00:23:49,013
Yeah, it is.
It's mythology.
529
00:23:49,047 --> 00:23:50,915
But you took it
to a new level.
530
00:23:50,949 --> 00:23:55,754
No film that I can think
of had the used future idea.
531
00:23:55,787 --> 00:23:58,057
The future was always shiny,
it was always perfect,
532
00:23:58,089 --> 00:24:00,992
it always had just been
unwrapped on Christmas morning
533
00:24:01,026 --> 00:24:03,796
'cause it was kind
of this optimistic ideal.
534
00:24:03,828 --> 00:24:06,565
And you said, "No, the future
has to have been lived in
535
00:24:06,597 --> 00:24:07,899
for thousands of years,"
536
00:24:07,932 --> 00:24:09,934
so the Sandcrawlers
are all rusted
537
00:24:09,968 --> 00:24:11,670
and things are
kind of broken
538
00:24:11,702 --> 00:24:14,072
and it looked like
it had been lived in.
539
00:24:14,105 --> 00:24:15,641
So where did that idea
come from?
540
00:24:15,673 --> 00:24:17,175
'Cause there was no
precursor to that.
541
00:24:17,209 --> 00:24:21,212
I just felt that it's gotta
look like it's a real place.
542
00:24:21,246 --> 00:24:24,350
The transition from the
science-fiction space travel
543
00:24:24,383 --> 00:24:26,751
of the '60s to the '70s...
Aggh!
544
00:24:26,785 --> 00:24:31,090
It probably reflects a wider
shift in culture at that time,
545
00:24:31,123 --> 00:24:33,192
the sort of general cynicism
of the '70s
546
00:24:33,224 --> 00:24:36,094
has kind of infected
this vision of the future
547
00:24:36,127 --> 00:24:38,663
and it's like, "Okay,
if we get into outer space,
548
00:24:38,697 --> 00:24:39,998
probably giant corporations
549
00:24:40,030 --> 00:24:41,700
are still gonna
be running everything."
550
00:24:41,732 --> 00:24:44,302
And that's when you get
to movies like "Alien."
551
00:24:46,904 --> 00:24:48,172
Where you have a spacecraft
552
00:24:48,205 --> 00:24:51,175
that looks like it's been
through the mill.
553
00:24:51,209 --> 00:24:55,980
Things are leaking, steam's
running out of broken pipes,
554
00:24:56,013 --> 00:24:57,215
it's grimy,
555
00:24:57,249 --> 00:24:59,651
and the place is a mess.
556
00:24:59,683 --> 00:25:01,353
Look, I'm not gonna
do any more work
557
00:25:01,385 --> 00:25:03,355
till we get this
straightened out.
558
00:25:03,387 --> 00:25:08,159
Grant, you're guaranteed
by law to get a share.
559
00:25:08,192 --> 00:25:10,061
And it's, I think,
no accident
560
00:25:10,095 --> 00:25:12,398
that, in a lot of these films,
561
00:25:12,431 --> 00:25:15,134
it's the
military-industrial complex
562
00:25:15,166 --> 00:25:17,301
that are the real monster
in space.
563
00:25:17,335 --> 00:25:18,737
This could
cause trouble for us
564
00:25:18,769 --> 00:25:20,638
on all the other
mining operations.
565
00:25:20,672 --> 00:25:22,975
That could put my people
out of business.
566
00:25:23,008 --> 00:25:26,211
Don't worry.
He's a dead man.
567
00:25:26,243 --> 00:25:29,213
From the moment that
humans set off to lands
568
00:25:29,247 --> 00:25:32,151
that they'd never been to
before, immediately what follows
569
00:25:32,183 --> 00:25:35,052
that is you see all of
the normal human problems
570
00:25:35,086 --> 00:25:39,258
that we have in societies
transposed to other worlds.
571
00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:41,826
Which means you're going
to have labor problems.
572
00:25:41,859 --> 00:25:45,263
You're going to have hazardous
environments for workers.
573
00:25:45,297 --> 00:25:46,865
You're going to have
all kinds of things
574
00:25:46,897 --> 00:25:48,266
that reflect what might be
575
00:25:48,299 --> 00:25:51,002
the reality
of outer-space exploration.
576
00:25:51,036 --> 00:25:54,038
At some point, corporations are
going to have to get involved.
577
00:25:54,072 --> 00:25:55,374
At some point,
maybe the government
578
00:25:55,406 --> 00:25:57,074
will have to take over,
579
00:25:57,107 --> 00:26:00,345
and lead to something
like a militarized society
580
00:26:00,377 --> 00:26:02,146
like "Starship Troopers."
581
00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:05,049
We break net now and
take you live to Klendathu
582
00:26:05,083 --> 00:26:06,919
where the invasion has begun.
583
00:26:06,951 --> 00:26:09,954
It's an ugly planet,
a bug planet.
584
00:26:11,957 --> 00:26:13,926
Aaaah!
585
00:26:13,959 --> 00:26:16,161
When Paul Verhoeven
and I were talking one day,
586
00:26:16,193 --> 00:26:17,995
"What movies would
we like to make?"
587
00:26:18,028 --> 00:26:19,832
He said, "Well, I've always
wanted to do a movie about,
588
00:26:19,865 --> 00:26:21,365
like, what it was like to be,
you know,
589
00:26:21,399 --> 00:26:24,937
15 years old
in Nazi Germany in 1935
590
00:26:24,970 --> 00:26:27,105
when nobody knew
it was bad yet."
591
00:26:27,137 --> 00:26:29,307
It was a pretty
interesting idea.
592
00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:31,175
It came to me the idea,
593
00:26:31,209 --> 00:26:33,045
based on being a young boy
594
00:26:33,077 --> 00:26:34,712
when I was occupied
by the Germans,
595
00:26:34,746 --> 00:26:36,315
of course, in... in Holland,
which...
596
00:26:36,347 --> 00:26:38,216
Which was fascist, clearly.
597
00:26:38,249 --> 00:26:39,984
Or Nazis,
whatever you want to call it.
598
00:26:40,018 --> 00:26:41,286
I said...
I remember saying to him,
599
00:26:41,318 --> 00:26:42,921
"Well, they won't let us
do that."
600
00:26:42,953 --> 00:26:45,022
But then I thought,
"'Starship Troopers.'
601
00:26:45,056 --> 00:26:47,292
We can do that."
602
00:26:47,325 --> 00:26:52,130
Based on the book
by Robert Heinlein.
603
00:26:52,163 --> 00:26:54,499
Really is a...
Kind of a political tract
604
00:26:54,532 --> 00:26:58,336
and fairly conservative
political tract where he said,
605
00:26:58,369 --> 00:27:00,338
"If people who had been
in the military ran the world,
606
00:27:00,372 --> 00:27:02,039
it would be fair and right."
607
00:27:02,073 --> 00:27:06,111
He really felt that
the kind of mentality
608
00:27:06,144 --> 00:27:09,448
that was encouraged
in the U.S. Army
609
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,653
was extremely important
for making boys into men.
610
00:27:16,555 --> 00:27:18,990
"Starship Troopers" is an
important science-fiction movie
611
00:27:19,024 --> 00:27:20,359
because it's one
of the few movies
612
00:27:20,392 --> 00:27:23,028
that warns us that humans
may bring
613
00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:24,929
the worst of themselves
into space
614
00:27:24,962 --> 00:27:26,498
rather than the best
of themselves.
615
00:27:26,530 --> 00:27:28,066
Burn 'em all!
616
00:27:30,035 --> 00:27:35,841
We really tried to bring in
a level of criticism
617
00:27:35,874 --> 00:27:38,376
about what these
people are doing,
618
00:27:38,410 --> 00:27:40,546
especially in the newsreels,
619
00:27:40,578 --> 00:27:43,548
continuously telling
to the audience,
620
00:27:43,582 --> 00:27:45,017
"You like these people.
621
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:47,118
These are your heroes
and heroines.
622
00:27:47,152 --> 00:27:48,452
By the way,
623
00:27:48,486 --> 00:27:51,023
they're probably fascist."
624
00:27:51,056 --> 00:27:52,257
And what's fascinating
625
00:27:52,289 --> 00:27:54,425
about these
patriotic newsreels...
626
00:27:54,459 --> 00:27:56,827
They're very
shot-for-shot similar
627
00:27:56,861 --> 00:27:58,330
to "Triumph of the Will."
628
00:28:07,972 --> 00:28:11,042
It's this galaxy
now and always!
629
00:28:11,076 --> 00:28:15,314
The movie I wanted to do was
a movie about war and propaganda
630
00:28:15,346 --> 00:28:21,019
and why we go to war and what
happens to us when we do,
631
00:28:21,051 --> 00:28:22,320
but I wanted to tell it,
you know,
632
00:28:22,354 --> 00:28:25,057
almost like a 1950s B-movie.
633
00:28:25,089 --> 00:28:28,459
"Starship Troopers" is
Troy Donahue and Sandra Dee
634
00:28:28,492 --> 00:28:31,195
go to outer space,
fight giant bugs,
635
00:28:31,229 --> 00:28:34,499
and become Nazis was
my kind of logline.
636
00:28:34,531 --> 00:28:36,167
Kill them!
Kill them all!
637
00:28:38,103 --> 00:28:40,605
The story of humankind
is exploration
638
00:28:40,638 --> 00:28:45,076
is followed by colonialization
and exploitation,
639
00:28:45,109 --> 00:28:46,410
so we've always done this.
640
00:28:46,443 --> 00:28:48,279
He figured
that he could get an alien
641
00:28:48,313 --> 00:28:50,515
back through quarantine
642
00:28:50,547 --> 00:28:53,417
if one of us
was impregnated.
643
00:28:53,451 --> 00:28:56,087
I don't know which
species is worse.
644
00:28:56,121 --> 00:28:57,922
You don't see them
each other over
645
00:28:57,955 --> 00:28:59,323
for a damn percentage.
646
00:28:59,356 --> 00:29:01,359
And I think what you see
in science fiction is,
647
00:29:01,393 --> 00:29:03,362
as we reach out
into the universe,
648
00:29:03,394 --> 00:29:06,464
we take all of
our baggage with us.
649
00:29:09,472 --> 00:29:11,741
My parents thought
that television...
650
00:29:11,774 --> 00:29:13,476
And this is back
in the early '50s...
651
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:15,511
-Yeah?
-Was the worst influence,
652
00:29:15,545 --> 00:29:17,581
so they prevented me
from watching television.
653
00:29:17,614 --> 00:29:19,717
I could only watch, like,
Jackie Gleason,
654
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:21,417
-"The Honeymooners."
-Yeah, right.
655
00:29:21,451 --> 00:29:24,855
And so I started
to imagine my own shows.
656
00:29:24,887 --> 00:29:27,223
I couldn't watch television,
I would just dream up something
657
00:29:27,257 --> 00:29:28,592
-for myself to enjoy.
-Yeah.
658
00:29:28,625 --> 00:29:31,462
And that's what kids do when
they're exercising
659
00:29:31,494 --> 00:29:32,695
their natural ability
660
00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:34,732
to create worlds
that don't exist.
661
00:29:34,764 --> 00:29:36,966
I mean, I remember when I saw
"Mysterious Island,"
662
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,568
in...
In the third grade.
663
00:29:38,601 --> 00:29:40,837
I raced home and started
doing my own version
664
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:42,372
-of "Mysterious Island."
-Yeah, yeah.
665
00:29:42,405 --> 00:29:44,273
So I think that's
the creative impulse.
666
00:29:44,307 --> 00:29:45,576
You take it in.
Y...
667
00:29:45,608 --> 00:29:47,578
I don't wanna copy it
in a slavish fan way.
668
00:29:47,610 --> 00:29:49,312
Yes.
I wanna create my own version of it.
669
00:29:49,346 --> 00:29:51,248
It was... it always had to do
with a pencil
670
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,883
and a piece of paper
and, of course, later,
671
00:29:52,915 --> 00:29:54,385
the 8-millimeter movie camera.
672
00:29:54,417 --> 00:29:57,487
But you were processing
the world back out
673
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,257
in the form of something visual.
Exactly.
674
00:30:00,289 --> 00:30:01,692
That... that...
That... that's a blast
675
00:30:01,724 --> 00:30:03,459
'cause, you know,
you do the same thing.
676
00:30:03,492 --> 00:30:05,762
When I sit down to storyboard,
I come up with my best ideas
677
00:30:05,796 --> 00:30:07,931
in the process of
making my sketches.
678
00:30:07,963 --> 00:30:09,599
I mean, ideas that weren't
even in the script
679
00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:11,635
and weren't even in my imagination...
Right.
680
00:30:11,667 --> 00:30:14,337
Will come out
as I'm actually drawing.
681
00:30:20,976 --> 00:30:24,447
The science-fiction artists
are often overlooked
682
00:30:24,481 --> 00:30:25,749
in the history
of science fiction.
683
00:30:29,819 --> 00:30:32,588
But artists have
influenced authors
684
00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:33,824
in their own right
because they're...
685
00:30:33,857 --> 00:30:35,959
You know, they're
bringing their ideas
686
00:30:35,991 --> 00:30:41,065
and characters to life visually.
687
00:30:41,097 --> 00:30:42,699
But you think back
to everything you
688
00:30:42,732 --> 00:30:45,469
probably have visualized
about science fiction,
689
00:30:45,501 --> 00:30:47,870
you're probably going back
to what a science-fiction artist
690
00:30:47,904 --> 00:30:50,741
has done.
691
00:30:50,773 --> 00:30:53,643
Chesley Bonestell is considered
the father of space art
692
00:30:53,676 --> 00:30:55,812
or astronomic art.
693
00:30:55,846 --> 00:30:58,449
He started producing
in the 1940s.
694
00:30:58,482 --> 00:31:03,553
These paintings that were
extraordinarily realistic.
695
00:31:03,587 --> 00:31:07,090
You'll find, even today,
astronomers, astronauts,
696
00:31:07,124 --> 00:31:09,827
astrophysicists, engineers
who will say that,
697
00:31:09,859 --> 00:31:11,928
you know, they got into doing
what they're doing
698
00:31:11,962 --> 00:31:15,031
because, as kids, they were
inspired by Chesley Bonestell.
699
00:31:17,901 --> 00:31:20,070
The great advantage
of science fiction
700
00:31:20,103 --> 00:31:24,475
is that you can draw anything
on this vast canvas of space.
701
00:31:24,508 --> 00:31:26,009
It's all open, you know,
702
00:31:26,041 --> 00:31:28,544
for you to throw
your own imagination in.
703
00:31:28,578 --> 00:31:30,780
With world-building,
you are creating
704
00:31:30,814 --> 00:31:32,583
a society from scratch,
705
00:31:32,616 --> 00:31:35,452
a planet from scratch,
a people from scratch.
706
00:31:35,484 --> 00:31:38,454
They may not look like people
like you or me,
707
00:31:38,488 --> 00:31:41,991
but they are people.
708
00:31:42,024 --> 00:31:44,494
Every plant that you see
709
00:31:44,528 --> 00:31:47,131
in that remarkable forest
on Pandora...
710
00:31:47,164 --> 00:31:49,633
Even if you see it
for half a second,
711
00:31:49,665 --> 00:31:52,135
has an English name,
712
00:31:52,168 --> 00:31:54,737
a Latin name, a Na'vi name,
713
00:31:54,770 --> 00:31:58,575
and probably a two-page
description on its ecology,
714
00:31:58,607 --> 00:32:01,744
on how it reproduces,
on how it's used by the Na'vi.
715
00:32:01,778 --> 00:32:04,414
So if you're gonna go
into that much detail,
716
00:32:04,446 --> 00:32:05,781
then you're not gonna
skimp on the language.
717
00:32:08,984 --> 00:32:10,520
You've got to make sure
that everything
718
00:32:10,553 --> 00:32:11,821
really holds together.
719
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:16,894
And the language I wrote it,
720
00:32:16,926 --> 00:32:19,562
it's like 400 words.
721
00:32:19,596 --> 00:32:21,030
And I make a little dictionary.
722
00:32:21,064 --> 00:32:23,600
And that was interesting
because the only two person
723
00:32:23,633 --> 00:32:25,536
who can speak the language
at the time was...
724
00:32:25,568 --> 00:32:26,970
Was Milla and me.
725
00:32:27,002 --> 00:32:30,973
We were kind of fluent
after a couple of weeks.
726
00:32:31,007 --> 00:32:32,643
What is your name?
727
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,997
That's her name.
728
00:32:40,030 --> 00:32:41,833
I think there's like
a first, middle,
729
00:32:41,866 --> 00:32:43,901
and last somewhere in there.
730
00:32:43,934 --> 00:32:46,570
Don't ask me which.
731
00:32:46,604 --> 00:32:48,973
Working with Luc Besson,
who wrote and directed
732
00:32:49,005 --> 00:32:51,608
"Fifth Element"...
It changed my life.
733
00:32:51,642 --> 00:32:54,345
Just seemed so realistic to me,
734
00:32:54,377 --> 00:32:56,079
which I was really impressed by.
735
00:32:56,113 --> 00:32:58,982
It's the white page
that you can write everything.
736
00:32:59,015 --> 00:33:03,487
You can make everything
beautiful again in space.
737
00:33:03,521 --> 00:33:05,088
I like the fantasy of it.
738
00:33:05,121 --> 00:33:08,892
I, like, just take a subject,
like the law,
739
00:33:08,925 --> 00:33:10,962
the police, the food.
740
00:33:10,994 --> 00:33:13,463
Good fortune for you.
741
00:33:13,496 --> 00:33:17,868
And then I start writing,
you know, 10, 15 pages on each.
742
00:33:17,902 --> 00:33:19,437
And then you give that
to the actors
743
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:22,874
and it gives some life
and polish on the story,
744
00:33:22,906 --> 00:33:25,609
even if you never talk about it.
745
00:33:25,643 --> 00:33:28,880
Science fiction is probably
the best way to open your mind
746
00:33:28,913 --> 00:33:30,114
about everything,
747
00:33:30,146 --> 00:33:34,085
and sci-fi is just an oil
748
00:33:34,117 --> 00:33:36,521
so the doors open easier.
749
00:33:36,553 --> 00:33:38,588
It doesn't like
750
00:33:38,621 --> 00:33:41,057
So hard to push.
751
00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:44,494
Space is the biggest canvas
to write whatever you want
752
00:33:44,528 --> 00:33:47,464
and to push all the limits
because, by definition,
753
00:33:47,498 --> 00:33:49,901
future doesn't have a limit.
754
00:33:49,934 --> 00:33:52,970
Or if there is one,
we don't know it.
755
00:33:56,072 --> 00:33:58,475
When I was eight
or nine years old,
756
00:33:58,509 --> 00:34:02,612
I was obsessed with
creating different planets,
757
00:34:02,645 --> 00:34:05,682
creating these worlds
and these universes and...
758
00:34:05,715 --> 00:34:08,786
And building them up from the
ground, even at that young age.
759
00:34:08,819 --> 00:34:12,422
And I wrote up the visuals of
"Guardians of the Galaxy."
760
00:34:12,456 --> 00:34:16,059
Hundreds of pages of documents
with the different cultures
761
00:34:16,092 --> 00:34:18,061
and what they do
and how do they think.
762
00:34:20,697 --> 00:34:25,735
We are creating a world in
outer space based on real rules
763
00:34:25,768 --> 00:34:29,739
that is still filled
with imagination and fantasy.
764
00:34:29,773 --> 00:34:32,710
Yeah.
765
00:34:32,742 --> 00:34:35,779
Yeah!
766
00:34:35,813 --> 00:34:37,848
When you're dealing
with a raccoon and a tree,
767
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,884
you are, in some ways,
dealing with space fantasy,
768
00:34:39,916 --> 00:34:45,088
but, within that, let's say
there is a talking raccoon.
769
00:34:45,121 --> 00:34:46,223
What would it be?
770
00:34:46,257 --> 00:34:47,692
And how would it be?
771
00:34:47,724 --> 00:34:49,927
And I came up with
Rocket Raccoon
772
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,996
is a result of
experiments on his body
773
00:34:53,029 --> 00:34:56,700
to turn him into something
that's designed to kill.
774
00:34:56,733 --> 00:34:59,237
Ain't no thing like me
except me.
775
00:34:59,270 --> 00:35:01,204
I am Groot.
776
00:35:01,237 --> 00:35:02,572
Yeah, you said that.
777
00:35:02,605 --> 00:35:04,507
Groot's the most
popular character
778
00:35:04,541 --> 00:35:06,244
from "Guardians of the Galaxy."
779
00:35:06,277 --> 00:35:09,012
He's probably the soul
of the movie.
780
00:35:09,045 --> 00:35:10,614
I mean, I remember
like it was yesterday.
781
00:35:10,648 --> 00:35:12,783
We were getting ready
to shoot this scene
782
00:35:12,815 --> 00:35:15,953
where Groot grows into
sort of like this nest
783
00:35:15,985 --> 00:35:17,989
and protects us
from this impact
784
00:35:18,021 --> 00:35:22,125
that was just going
to completely kill us.
785
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,162
That day when we're shooting
that scene, that...
786
00:35:25,195 --> 00:35:27,965
We couldn't stop crying.
787
00:35:27,998 --> 00:35:30,701
This character that
doesn't even exist,
788
00:35:30,733 --> 00:35:35,672
but risking his life
for mine, was very moving.
789
00:35:35,706 --> 00:35:37,141
Why are you doing this?
790
00:35:37,174 --> 00:35:39,809
It's very much of
a Christ story.
791
00:35:39,842 --> 00:35:42,178
You have this character
who gives his life
792
00:35:42,212 --> 00:35:43,581
and is born again.
793
00:35:43,614 --> 00:35:45,583
We...
794
00:35:45,616 --> 00:35:47,150
are...
795
00:35:47,183 --> 00:35:48,852
Groot.
796
00:35:48,886 --> 00:35:52,123
"We are Groot"
is the line of dialogue
797
00:35:52,155 --> 00:35:55,759
that every single other thing
in the movie is hanging on.
798
00:35:55,793 --> 00:35:58,929
It's about seeing a raccoon
and a human being
799
00:35:58,962 --> 00:36:01,866
and a green assassin
and a big oaf,
800
00:36:01,898 --> 00:36:04,801
and they find a family with
each other for the first time.
801
00:36:04,835 --> 00:36:06,070
An outer-space family.
802
00:36:06,103 --> 00:36:07,637
That's what makes it
science fiction,
803
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:09,239
is that it's
an outer-space family.
804
00:36:11,585 --> 00:36:14,804
Today, it is you who will
learn the power of Mars.
805
00:36:14,836 --> 00:36:17,578
Tomorrow, it will be
the whole world.
806
00:36:17,602 --> 00:36:20,437
You're dreaming.
Is it about Mars?
807
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:21,939
The angry red planet.
808
00:36:21,973 --> 00:36:23,942
We're heading straight
for Mars.
809
00:36:23,975 --> 00:36:26,544
Mars is burning up.
810
00:36:26,577 --> 00:36:29,413
Good God.
I'm on Mars.
811
00:36:31,082 --> 00:36:32,917
50 years ago,
space is
812
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:35,653
an extraordinarily
hostile environment
813
00:36:35,685 --> 00:36:37,588
and then we go through the
trajectory of science fiction,
814
00:36:37,622 --> 00:36:40,859
which includes exploring
the rest of the universe.
815
00:36:40,892 --> 00:36:43,127
But the solar system is now
very much within our reach.
816
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,131
The closest Mars ever gets to us
is 36 million miles,
817
00:36:47,165 --> 00:36:50,101
which doesn't seem so huge when
you think about light-years.
818
00:36:50,133 --> 00:36:53,937
It's a tiny distance
by comparison.
819
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:57,407
Stories like "The Martian"
make us believe
820
00:36:57,441 --> 00:37:01,011
that we can and will do this
in our own lifetime.
821
00:37:01,044 --> 00:37:04,615
I gotta figure out a way
to grow three years'
822
00:37:04,649 --> 00:37:06,851
worth of food here.
823
00:37:06,883 --> 00:37:08,986
On a planet
where nothing grows.
824
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:11,856
In "The Martian," what you see
is a smart person
825
00:37:11,888 --> 00:37:14,024
actually acting smart.
826
00:37:14,057 --> 00:37:16,026
Using his brain
to solve problems,
827
00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:18,663
instead of a lightsaber
or a ray gun.
828
00:37:18,696 --> 00:37:21,466
They say that, once you
grow crops somewhere,
829
00:37:21,499 --> 00:37:23,935
you've officially
colonized it.
830
00:37:23,968 --> 00:37:27,172
So, technically,
831
00:37:27,205 --> 00:37:29,507
I colonized Mars.
832
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:30,975
One of the other great things
833
00:37:31,008 --> 00:37:32,977
that Andy Weir's "The Martian"
does
834
00:37:33,010 --> 00:37:34,546
is make the experience
835
00:37:34,578 --> 00:37:37,948
seem like an everyday
experience, almost.
836
00:37:37,982 --> 00:37:41,719
You can see yourself
as Mark Watney.
837
00:37:41,752 --> 00:37:43,121
He doesn't power
through problems
838
00:37:43,153 --> 00:37:44,588
without hitting a hitch.
839
00:37:44,622 --> 00:37:46,658
He hits every
single hitch there is.
840
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,163
And you get to see him
work through them,
841
00:37:52,196 --> 00:37:55,200
and you find yourself thinking,
"I could do that."
842
00:37:55,232 --> 00:37:58,937
So, it's inspirational, but
it's also just very practical.
843
00:37:58,970 --> 00:38:03,674
I forgot to account
for the excess oxygen
844
00:38:03,707 --> 00:38:06,577
that I've been exhaling
845
00:38:06,611 --> 00:38:09,513
when I did my calculations
846
00:38:09,546 --> 00:38:11,715
because I'm stupid.
847
00:38:11,749 --> 00:38:15,453
The whole story is just one
prolonged cascade failure.
848
00:38:15,486 --> 00:38:18,156
Basically, his solution
to this immediate problem
849
00:38:18,189 --> 00:38:22,859
leads to the next problem and
the next and the next and so on.
850
00:38:22,892 --> 00:38:25,495
I would say that
the problem-solving style
851
00:38:25,528 --> 00:38:26,997
of Arthur Clarke
852
00:38:27,031 --> 00:38:29,133
and also Robert Heinlein
influenced
853
00:38:29,165 --> 00:38:30,834
how I wrote "The Martian,"
854
00:38:30,868 --> 00:38:32,971
although I would say one of
the biggest influences
855
00:38:33,004 --> 00:38:34,772
on "The Martian"
was Apollo 13,
856
00:38:34,805 --> 00:38:37,107
both the real event
and the movie.
857
00:38:37,140 --> 00:38:38,508
This is Houston.
858
00:38:38,542 --> 00:38:40,111
Say again, please.
859
00:38:40,144 --> 00:38:42,946
Houston, we have a problem.
860
00:38:42,979 --> 00:38:44,682
My father is
a particle physicist
861
00:38:44,714 --> 00:38:46,550
and my mother is
an electrical engineer,
862
00:38:46,584 --> 00:38:50,821
so I was pretty much
doomed to be a nerd.
863
00:38:50,854 --> 00:38:53,991
There is one joke where they
tell him everything he's typing
864
00:38:54,024 --> 00:38:56,160
is being broadcast live
to the entire world.
865
00:38:56,192 --> 00:38:57,861
Yeah?
866
00:38:57,895 --> 00:39:00,131
In the novel, he says,
"Look! A pair of boobs!"
867
00:39:00,163 --> 00:39:01,999
and draws, like,
these ASCII art boobs...
868
00:39:02,033 --> 00:39:05,569
That's open parenthesis, period,
"Y," period, close parenthesis.
869
00:39:05,602 --> 00:39:07,571
They didn't put that
in the movie.
870
00:39:07,604 --> 00:39:10,674
They just had everyone
and look up and go,
871
00:39:10,707 --> 00:39:12,075
My God.
872
00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:14,045
As if he'd written something
really profane.
873
00:39:16,046 --> 00:39:17,615
In the face of
overwhelming odds,
874
00:39:17,647 --> 00:39:20,617
I'm left with only one option.
875
00:39:20,651 --> 00:39:23,788
I'm gonna have to science
the out of this.
876
00:39:23,821 --> 00:39:25,890
I'm gonna have to science
the out of this.
877
00:39:25,923 --> 00:39:27,625
How... What does
that mean to you?
878
00:39:27,658 --> 00:39:32,596
Well, it equates with his
thrill of terror, saying,
879
00:39:32,629 --> 00:39:35,767
"I'm... I'm either gonna
die here or I can survive."
880
00:39:35,799 --> 00:39:40,171
-Yep.
-And so he leans heavily on what I call gallows humor.
881
00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:42,240
"I'm not gonna think
too much about this.
882
00:39:42,272 --> 00:39:44,675
I'm gonna take it
day by day, hour by hour."
883
00:39:44,709 --> 00:39:46,911
-Yeah.
-And "I'm gonna have to science the out of this"
884
00:39:46,944 --> 00:39:48,646
to get my survival going.
885
00:39:48,678 --> 00:39:50,213
-That kinda humor...
-Yeah.
886
00:39:50,247 --> 00:39:53,917
Probably keeps in check
terror and fear
887
00:39:53,950 --> 00:39:55,586
-which will stop him functioning.
-Right, right.
888
00:39:55,618 --> 00:39:56,921
Do you know
what I got out of it?
889
00:39:56,953 --> 00:39:59,756
We're all that guy.
Are...
890
00:39:59,790 --> 00:40:02,927
That our state right now
of affairs on Earth...
891
00:40:02,959 --> 00:40:05,562
-Yeah.
-Is such that we have no choice
892
00:40:05,595 --> 00:40:07,097
but to "science
the out of it"...
893
00:40:07,131 --> 00:40:08,633
-Correct.
-In order to survive.
894
00:40:08,665 --> 00:40:10,200
That's a good...
The threat's in front of us.
895
00:40:10,234 --> 00:40:12,236
Yes.
Our threats that will be solved...
896
00:40:12,269 --> 00:40:14,004
That are...
That are caused by technology,
897
00:40:14,037 --> 00:40:16,340
for the most part, and they need
to be solved by science.
898
00:40:16,374 --> 00:40:18,743
Yes. That's a good point.
Yeah?
899
00:40:18,776 --> 00:40:21,245
I think the drive
for the realism of "The Martian"
900
00:40:21,278 --> 00:40:24,314
is the fact that we will
get to Mars quite soon,
901
00:40:24,348 --> 00:40:27,819
so suddenly it's come
right back to our doorstep,
902
00:40:27,852 --> 00:40:29,587
that we now have the technology
903
00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:31,888
and are building
the sophisticated means
904
00:40:31,921 --> 00:40:34,791
for getting to Mars
and colonizing Mars.
905
00:40:34,825 --> 00:40:37,627
That's why "The Martian"
is... is important
906
00:40:37,660 --> 00:40:39,663
and why it has
that realism to it.
907
00:40:39,696 --> 00:40:41,098
This is space.
908
00:40:41,131 --> 00:40:43,166
It does not cooperate.
909
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,703
At some point, everything's
gonna go south
910
00:40:45,736 --> 00:40:47,971
and you're gonna say,
"This is it."
911
00:40:48,004 --> 00:40:49,874
Now, you can either accept that,
912
00:40:49,906 --> 00:40:52,142
or you can get to work.
913
00:40:52,176 --> 00:40:56,314
If we don't figure out how
to get to Mars and live there
914
00:40:56,346 --> 00:40:57,982
and then build
another spaceship
915
00:40:58,015 --> 00:40:59,850
that can go to another
solar system...
916
00:40:59,883 --> 00:41:01,818
-Yep.
-We're toast.
917
00:41:01,852 --> 00:41:03,321
We're toast.
Yeah. In the long term, we are.
918
00:41:03,354 --> 00:41:05,356
And to... And to say, yeah,
we've only got a million years
919
00:41:05,388 --> 00:41:06,691
to figure this out.
We better...
920
00:41:06,723 --> 00:41:08,392
We're way
behind schedule here.
921
00:41:08,426 --> 00:41:12,663
So you have to get people
to sort of buy into the idea.
922
00:41:12,696 --> 00:41:14,966
And if we didn't have these movies...
Yeah.
923
00:41:14,999 --> 00:41:16,366
To say,
"This is an adventure,
924
00:41:16,399 --> 00:41:18,135
-this is really gonna be fun"...
-Yep.
925
00:41:18,169 --> 00:41:19,270
Do you think we'd be
dumb enough
926
00:41:19,303 --> 00:41:21,272
to go in a spaceship
off to Mars
927
00:41:21,305 --> 00:41:23,073
where there's nothing there
but a bunch of red dirt?
928
00:41:23,107 --> 00:41:25,375
-Yeah.
-No, it's like the adventure,
929
00:41:25,408 --> 00:41:27,677
the whole idea of it.
930
00:41:27,711 --> 00:41:29,946
We have to do this.
931
00:41:29,979 --> 00:41:31,948
The human race
depends on it.
932
00:41:31,982 --> 00:41:33,750
Well,
thank you for doing this.
933
00:41:33,783 --> 00:41:36,887
My pleasure.
This has been an amazing brain jam.
934
00:41:36,921 --> 00:41:38,890
Yeah, well, this is all
I have to do now.
935
00:41:38,923 --> 00:41:41,526
And I don't get to
do it very much.
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