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I finally felt that we
had our dream house,
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but what I really
bought was a g.
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When I was twelve,
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my family moved to
a brand new house.
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There's somel,
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trying to scare
these two children.
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I knew I was in danger.
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The fact that you
have pieces of furniture
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that are being flung
in the air, you know,
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very aggressively trying
to provoke or inflict pain.
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When I review a case,
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I always look at the
credibility of the witness.
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I'm laying down in bed
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and just feel that it
was just staring at me.
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I didn't know what he
said, I didn't hear the word,
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but it scared me.
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Something's not right here.
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A lot of peop.
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This is my daughter.
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You don't tell me to stay away.
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What the hell does it want?
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In the afterlife,
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he is quite probably
trying to seek revenge
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for what they had done.
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When I was looking for a house,
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I wanted something in the
country with a bit of land.
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So, when I saw this
house, I fell in love with it.
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Erin
Goodpipe. Take one. Marker.
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As an investigator going
into a case like Lori Kinrade's,
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you want to
establish a few things.
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Can we first rule out
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non-paranormal
occurrences happening?
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The second is,
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if there are a number
of things occurring
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that seem paranormal,
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we wanna figure out what that
motive is and who is doing it.
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We had been married
for seven years
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and we found this home
that we fell in love with
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and the price was right.
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I saw it as a fresh start for us
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and a safe place
to raise Bri-Anne.
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I finally felt that we
had our dream house,
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but what I'd really
bought was a gateway...
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To the paranormal.
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My husband and I met when I mo.
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We ended up in the
same rooming house.
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Everything seemed
wonderful at first.
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It, um, our bond just
grew, inseparable.
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And we became a
couple pretty quickly.
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With my husband,
when things were good,
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there was a lot of laughter,
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a lot of fun.
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But when things were bad,
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they were extremely bad.
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He could just go off
with the flip of a switch.
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We used to always say
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you'd have to look in his
eyes to see who was there.
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All I could hope was
moving to this new house
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would change Freddy
somehow and we needed that.
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I kept hoping for the best, bu.
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It started from the very
beginning on moving in day.
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I was two and a half years old
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when we moved into this house.
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I remember things
being less thas
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from a very young age.
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At his worst, my dad was scary.
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I just remember being very
scared of him when I was little.
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Hey! What
a friggen mess!
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It was extreme anger.
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And the thing is,
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he could be sitting beside
you and talking one minute
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and everything was fine.
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Hey!
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You hear me? I'm talking to you!
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You hear what I said?
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You pathetic woman.
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Partly I was hoping that
maybe having our own place
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that that might help.
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But it didn't change anything
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and he just seemed
to get more obsessive.
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I knew something wasn't right.
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When I was
growing up in this house,
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I heard a lot of strange voices.
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Why are they here?
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This is my house.
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It was right about here
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I heard women's
voices chattering away
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and there was no one there.
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Based on the transcripts
of Lori's testimony,
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there are a number
of strange occurrences
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that are happening in the
house since they've moved in
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and it's having an
immediate effect on the people
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living in the house,
specifically Lori's husband.
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I remember when
my dad would get into his moods,
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his eyes would just go dark
and blank and it was scary.
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I started becoming
aware pretty early on
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that there was something
that wasn't right.
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We weren't allowed
to close doors.
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He would start out by saying,"
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"we had to take the
door off to refinish it."
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But then the doors
never went back on.
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My dad was very paranoid.
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He had some idea
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that we were doing
something behind his back.
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He just had this obsession
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that if you were
behind the door,
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he didn't know
what you were doing.
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There was no sense,
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no sense to any of it.
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Frankly, I just hit a point
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I would've rather dealt
with anything paranormal
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than with my husband.
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Hey!
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You're pathetic.
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He had his moments
being totally out of control
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and the house would definitely
become way more active.
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So his instability was
just adding to the fire.
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There was definitely
a correlation
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between how intense
my dad's moods were
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and how intense the
hauntings would become.
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When you have, um,
energy that's really negative,
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perhaps you're very angry,
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then, you might find
resonance with an angry spirit
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that might be there
with that type of energy
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so they can kind of
coalesce together.
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There was always
one area of the house
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that was more active and
it was on all three floors
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and it was that
corner over there.
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I would hear noises,
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things bumping, banging.
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It was very
unnerving to hear it,
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especially when you
can't find a cause.
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That's when it became
clear that this house,
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my dream house was haunted.
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The first bedroom
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that my parents put me
in when I was very little
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was the worst.
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It was very scary.
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This was my room
when I was really little
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where all of the really
scary activity happened
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at the beginning.
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It was terrifying.
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I would hear footsteps
moving around the bed
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and just being so scared
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that I was just shaking
and I was too afraid to move,
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too afraid to blink or breathe.
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But there was nothing.
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I don't believe in telling
a child you dreamt it
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or whatever.
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But I did get a weird feeling,
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something's not right here.
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From my perspective, children,
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they've just come
from the spirit realm
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and they're aging through.
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But because of that,
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they are so sensitive
to the spirit realm
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that exists around them.
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I tend to believe that
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what children are
experiencing is real.
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I needed to understand
what was going on.
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So I decided to go
to the town archives
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to see what we could find out.
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We went through the archives
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and found out
that the house was.
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As we learned in
the neighbourhood,
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it seemed like
every family in tn
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to our home, you know,
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and they'd been
there for funerals,
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they'd been there for weddings.
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When you have events that
are really emotionally charged
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that can imprint on a space,
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for example, if you have
a wedding somewhere
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and you're a spirit,
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that might be a place that
you want to go and revisit.
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It's a special place for you.
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Likewise, if a funeral
happened there,
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you might have grief that's ree
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for a spirit who also
might be going back there
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for those familiar memories.
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My question around that
then is, well, who is that?
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Who is tied to this
space specifically?
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I heard a noise upstairs
and then I heard a voice.
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It was right up there
at the top of the stairs.
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That's where I saw her.
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She made it very clear she
didn't want me to come up.
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It's such a surreal feeling
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when you see
something like this.
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Don't come.
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Everything jus.
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The message that I
heard in my head was,
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"Don't come up."
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It was like she was
territorial, angry,
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but almost threatening.
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She wanted
me to know "I'm here".
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I got angry.
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It's like, no way.
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Like, this is my child,
this is my daughter.
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You don't tell me to stay away.
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And I just stormed right up
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and went through where
she'd been standing
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and that mama bear
thing comes out, right?
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As a child,
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it could be very scary to
have this entity around.
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You never really knew
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when she was gonna pop up
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and it felt like she
was always here,
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she was always part of
the fabric of the house.
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Lori mentions that she was
speaking with her neighbour
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and they came
across a photograph
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where there was a woman
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in the photograph
that Lori recognized.
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It was the woman
that she had be.
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I was able to
identify who she was,
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the past owner of my house.
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It was her ghost that I
saw at the top of the stairs.
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This is really crucial
because the past owner
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might be inhabiting
the house still
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as if she's living in the home.
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So when you get people
who move into your space,
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it can feel very intrusive.
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You can feel like,
okay, who are?
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I need to get them out.
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My mom did
her best to reassure me
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that she wasn't there to hurt me
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and she wasn't gonna
cause me any harm,
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but that my mom
would do what she
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that she would take care of it.
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I knew I had tf.
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I did my research and I came
across an ancient method.
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I visualized her going up
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and taken to where she
needed to go to do her healing.
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The crossing was successful
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and I believe that
she found peace
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and we found peace
as well for a while.
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I'm so relieved
that it worked out for Lori,
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that this ceremony helped
them be rid of the spirit.
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There's a sense of
harmony in the space,
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spiritually that is.
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Now I think it's time for
Lori to reconsider the abuse
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that's coming from her husband.
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I would try to
talk to him calmly
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about how neither
of us was happy
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and we needed to start
working on our lives separately.
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I remember he would just
grab armloads of our things
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and just take them
outside and set them on fire.
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Fire was his thing.
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I always kind of
figured that's the way
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we would both go out,
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that we would
both go out in a fire.
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It was definitely hell and my.
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One day when he was at work,
we took the dogs and we left.
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It ended up being
part of the agreement
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that my mom
would get this house.
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And so a few months
after we had left,
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my dad agreed to move out
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so that my mom and
I could move back in.
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We lived a relatively quiet life
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until I got an email one day
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saying that Freddy
was in the hospital
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and not expected to live,
261
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did we want to say our goodbyes.
262
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We both went down that night,
263
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but it was
absolutely terrifying.
264
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We couldn't get over the feel,
265
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he was gonna open his eyes and,
266
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but we-we said our
goodbyes and said,
267
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"We're sending
you off with no hate.
268
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"You have to go and
deal with your demons.
269
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"Go in love and light."
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It was about a week later
they'd taken him off life support.
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This is where this complex
case of Lori Kinrade's
272
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takes a terrifying turn.
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This one's gonna take longer.
- Yeah.
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It was the angry stomping.
275
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It was that energy
and that feeling
276
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like somebody wants
to get right in your face.
277
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It was familiar to the way
he would be stomping around
278
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when he was getting
ready to trash the place.
279
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That's when I realized
280
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that what was haunting
us now was Freddy,
281
00:18:45,824 --> 00:18:47,860
and he was back
with a vengeance.
282
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To be targeted by my
late abusive husband
283
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was a whole
different level of terror.
284
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Lori's late husband, Freddy,
285
00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:05,186
is probably enraged
286
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that Lori and her daughter
287
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escaped from him in life
288
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and now in the afterlife,
289
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he is quite probably
trying to seek revenge
290
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for what they had done.
291
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He really blamed me for his wo.
292
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He did tell me that
he would kill me.
293
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A lot of ways this makes
sense that even in death,
294
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he couldn't let go.
295
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I was upstairs one night
296
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and I sort of got
into a purge mode.
297
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That was terrifying.
298
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This is really
dangerous at this point.
299
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The fact that you
have pieces of furniture
300
00:20:35,067 --> 00:20:37,069
that are being flung in the air
301
00:20:37,102 --> 00:20:38,846
says that this is
really physical,
302
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:40,906
that this, spirit
is really powerful
303
00:20:40,939 --> 00:20:42,050
and is perhaps, you know,
304
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:45,344
very aggressively trying
to provoke or inflict pain.
305
00:20:45,377 --> 00:20:47,088
There was nothing
else or no one else
306
00:20:47,112 --> 00:20:49,214
that was capable of
doing that kind of violence
307
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:52,050
and it was too similar to
what he did when he was living.
308
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After my dad died,
309
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I brought the ashes
back to this house.
310
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There was really
nowhere else to keep them,
311
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so we kept them here.
312
00:21:06,732 --> 00:21:10,736
But my mom and I had
always felt uncomfortable
313
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around the ashes,
314
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it always felt a little uneasy.
315
00:21:15,907 --> 00:21:17,952
The activity in the house
had gotten so outta hand
316
00:21:17,976 --> 00:21:20,379
and things were happening
more and more often around there
317
00:21:20,412 --> 00:21:23,282
and she was getting
more and more concerned.
318
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So she messaged me and said,
319
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"We need to get these
ashes out of here right now."
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I just felt the negative energy,
321
00:21:39,931 --> 00:21:41,767
I had to get rid of it.
322
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Found a spot in Lake Huron
323
00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:51,310
and I said another goodbye
to him and released him.
324
00:21:54,813 --> 00:21:57,516
I believe what Lori
and Bri-Anne did
325
00:21:57,549 --> 00:21:58,926
was a way of getting closure.
326
00:21:58,950 --> 00:22:01,987
By putting those
ashes into the lake
327
00:22:02,020 --> 00:22:04,690
they're essentially
saying to the spirit world,
328
00:22:04,723 --> 00:22:06,158
to Freddy himself,
329
00:22:06,191 --> 00:22:07,835
that you have no power here.
330
00:22:07,859 --> 00:22:09,604
You're not a part of this home.
331
00:22:09,628 --> 00:22:12,364
Um, they're essentially
breaking spiritual bonds
332
00:22:12,397 --> 00:22:14,299
between the spirit realm,
333
00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:17,436
between Freddy and the prese.
334
00:22:24,976 --> 00:22:27,546
I can't really
explain the revenge
335
00:22:27,579 --> 00:22:30,615
other than the fact
that I was still living.
336
00:22:30,649 --> 00:22:33,118
He was still angry
because I did leave,
337
00:22:33,151 --> 00:22:35,020
I got away from him.
338
00:22:35,053 --> 00:22:36,021
We both did.
339
00:22:36,054 --> 00:22:39,558
It's my first time to
ever talk about this.
340
00:22:39,591 --> 00:22:42,260
Nobody in my family ever
knew any of this was going on.
341
00:22:45,063 --> 00:22:47,999
His life was all about secrets.
342
00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:48,967
Never telling.
343
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:49,968
Never let anybody see.
344
00:22:50,001 --> 00:22:52,003
Never let anybody in.
345
00:22:53,772 --> 00:22:55,640
I'm letting it be known.
346
00:22:55,674 --> 00:22:57,576
There's no more secrets anymore.
347
00:22:57,609 --> 00:22:59,211
We escaped,
348
00:22:59,244 --> 00:23:00,688
the long and the
short of it, right?
349
00:23:00,712 --> 00:23:02,280
We-we escaped.
350
00:23:25,437 --> 00:23:26,614
When I was twelve,
351
00:23:26,638 --> 00:23:30,075
my family moved to a brand
new house in the Menifee area,
352
00:23:30,108 --> 00:23:32,043
just south of LA.
353
00:23:34,045 --> 00:23:36,681
At the time it was
a new development.
354
00:23:36,715 --> 00:23:38,250
It wasn't even a city yet.
355
00:23:39,317 --> 00:23:41,317
It was kind of in the
middle of nowhere.
356
00:23:43,622 --> 00:23:48,693
But I was happy 'cause I
liked the peace and quiet
357
00:23:48,727 --> 00:23:50,729
and it was easy to
make new friends.
358
00:23:52,063 --> 00:23:55,066
One day, all the
peace just went away.
359
00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:12,517
My father, he worked
as a police officer.
360
00:24:15,854 --> 00:24:17,389
His job put him in conflict
361
00:24:17,422 --> 00:24:20,158
with the most dangerous
criminals in the country.
362
00:24:25,797 --> 00:24:27,842
My dad felt like
'cause of his line of work,
363
00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:30,602
it was not safe for us as
a family to be out in public.
364
00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:35,240
So what any other
family could normally do
365
00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:37,285
just sit down at a regular
fast food restaurant,
366
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,444
we had to drive out
of our town to do that.
367
00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:44,282
And you think a normal childn
368
00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:46,427
at a fast food restaurant
20 minutes away from home.
369
00:24:46,451 --> 00:24:47,462
You think that's normal.
370
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:49,087
Then you find out why.
371
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:51,423
You find out that
there's bad people
372
00:24:51,456 --> 00:24:53,058
hiding in places like this.
373
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:57,462
My dad was a target
because of his job.
374
00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:10,151
He never told us anything.
375
00:25:10,175 --> 00:25:12,655
He wanted to keep
that out of the house.
376
00:25:13,912 --> 00:25:15,947
He wanted to make
sure we were safe.
377
00:25:18,483 --> 00:25:20,563
But, you know, you're
kids, you're curious.
378
00:25:21,987 --> 00:25:24,089
You wanna know what he does.
379
00:25:28,393 --> 00:25:29,961
I wish I wasn't so curious.
380
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:38,913
Richard.
Take one. Marker.
381
00:25:38,937 --> 00:25:39,981
At first glance,
382
00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:41,373
Clyde Morrison's case
383
00:25:41,406 --> 00:25:44,042
didn't look like a particu.
384
00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:46,053
And then I began to
delve a little bit deeper
385
00:25:46,077 --> 00:25:48,317
and found that there was
more to this than met the eye.
386
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,853
I have seen many cases,
387
00:25:54,886 --> 00:25:57,222
and this is not your
average haunting.
388
00:26:00,725 --> 00:26:02,270
One night my parents were away
389
00:26:02,294 --> 00:26:04,629
and I was playing a game
with my younger brother.
390
00:26:06,531 --> 00:26:08,333
We're not normally alone.
391
00:26:08,767 --> 00:26:12,537
My family had to go do a
family emergency out of the state.
392
00:26:12,571 --> 00:26:13,581
We were gonna
take advantage of that
393
00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:15,574
and play games all night,
394
00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:17,552
eat all the food we weren't
supposed to be eating,
395
00:26:17,576 --> 00:26:19,744
all the things that
they told us not to do.
396
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:21,556
Eight.
397
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:23,281
Okay.
398
00:26:29,321 --> 00:26:32,257
It sounded like an adult, a man.
399
00:26:32,991 --> 00:26:34,225
I didn't know what he said.
400
00:26:34,259 --> 00:26:36,795
I didn't hear the
word, but it scared me.
401
00:26:57,082 --> 00:27:00,218
It sounded like
someone trying to scare us.
402
00:27:00,251 --> 00:27:03,121
Someone shouting like, "Hey".
403
00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:05,123
Something to get your attention.
404
00:27:05,156 --> 00:27:07,459
And it did, it got
all of our attention.
405
00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:15,409
Clyde and his brother
are quite young at this point
406
00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:17,602
and so there could
be all sorts of things
407
00:27:17,636 --> 00:27:19,270
and you're home alone as a kid,
408
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:20,639
you know, every little bump,
409
00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:22,941
every little sound can be scary
410
00:27:22,974 --> 00:27:24,175
and can be emphasized.
411
00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:27,078
We tend to read into a lot
of things when we're children.
412
00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:37,414
I literally thought
someone had broken in.
413
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:41,126
I knew I was in danger
right then and there.
414
00:27:42,694 --> 00:27:45,597
The only people in
that house was myself,
415
00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:47,432
my younger brother, Malcolm,
416
00:27:48,066 --> 00:27:49,601
and that was it.
417
00:27:58,677 --> 00:28:00,655
When doing a
paranormal investigation
418
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,623
you have to begin
by looking at the facts
419
00:28:02,647 --> 00:28:05,517
and ruling out
the real life things
420
00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:07,619
that are surrounding
an occurrence.
421
00:28:07,652 --> 00:28:08,987
He lives in a neighbourhood
422
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:10,631
where there is a lot of
crime that's happening,
423
00:28:10,655 --> 00:28:14,059
so there is a lot
of circumstance
424
00:28:14,092 --> 00:28:15,932
that could come into play here.
425
00:28:16,928 --> 00:28:19,664
Clyde's dad
works for the gang unit.
426
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:21,833
He deals with some
very bad individuals.
427
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:23,201
He arrests them,
428
00:28:23,234 --> 00:28:24,402
he puts them in prison.
429
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:26,404
So we have to look
at the possibility
430
00:28:26,438 --> 00:28:28,406
that we are dealing
with a violent,
431
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,675
vindictive flesh and blood,
432
00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,411
possibly homicidal individual
433
00:28:33,445 --> 00:28:35,480
who wants to hurt
a cop and his kids.
434
00:28:40,085 --> 00:28:42,687
When I looked, I saw nothing.
435
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,689
I just felt something.
436
00:28:47,859 --> 00:28:49,728
There's no one there.
437
00:28:53,364 --> 00:28:55,543
I was terrified
that somebody was there
438
00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:57,869
and I knew I wasn't gonna
be able to protect myself.
439
00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:08,689
It sounded like
someone slammed it shut
440
00:29:08,713 --> 00:29:10,381
as if they were upset.
441
00:29:14,619 --> 00:29:17,922
Clyde's account has taken a
turn from kids getting spooked
442
00:29:17,956 --> 00:29:19,767
all the way to
something physical
443
00:29:19,791 --> 00:29:23,161
like big, heavy indoor
shutters slamming.
444
00:29:23,394 --> 00:29:25,106
The shutters slammed.
445
00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:26,907
We stopped immediately
what we're doing,
446
00:29:26,931 --> 00:29:28,776
wondering what the
hell just happened
447
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,902
since no one was
even next to it.
448
00:29:30,935 --> 00:29:32,780
It takes a great
deal of physical force
449
00:29:32,804 --> 00:29:34,706
to slam a shutter.
450
00:29:34,739 --> 00:29:37,709
It takes a lot of energy
to make that happen.
451
00:29:37,742 --> 00:29:41,212
Is this something
paranormal tha,
452
00:29:41,246 --> 00:29:43,782
trying to scare
these two children
453
00:29:43,815 --> 00:29:45,683
who it knows are home alone?
454
00:29:47,652 --> 00:29:50,252
I ran outside
to get our neighbour.
455
00:29:51,823 --> 00:29:53,734
We were left in the care
of our next door neighbour
456
00:29:53,758 --> 00:29:55,360
to watch out for us.
457
00:29:57,762 --> 00:29:59,731
We were praying,
please just be home.
458
00:30:05,436 --> 00:30:08,439
So Menifee,
because it is a new city,
459
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:10,575
it was right smack
in the middle of
460
00:30:10,608 --> 00:30:13,778
some pretty known
dangerous cities.
461
00:30:16,447 --> 00:30:19,818
Bad people started going
in our neighbourhoods
462
00:30:19,851 --> 00:30:22,153
and breaking into vehicles,
463
00:30:22,187 --> 00:30:25,156
breaking into
homes and stealing.
464
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:28,760
And a lot of people felt unsafe
465
00:30:28,793 --> 00:30:30,795
and unsure of if it's
gonna keep happening.
466
00:30:33,798 --> 00:30:34,975
There's a valid concern
467
00:30:34,999 --> 00:30:38,369
that one of the people that
Clyde's father has arrested
468
00:30:38,403 --> 00:30:39,971
or one of their family members
469
00:30:40,004 --> 00:30:42,373
has found out where they
live and has targeted him.
470
00:30:42,407 --> 00:30:44,485
As soon as we told our neighbour
that somebody's in our house,
471
00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:45,677
he didn't question us.
472
00:30:45,710 --> 00:30:47,288
He immediately
told us to stay put.
473
00:30:47,312 --> 00:30:49,647
He went back into his
house to grab his shotgun
474
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:51,416
and he went to our house.
475
00:30:54,719 --> 00:30:56,788
He had searched
upstairs and downstairs
476
00:30:56,821 --> 00:30:58,941
and even in the backyard,
even in the garage.
477
00:31:00,225 --> 00:31:02,469
And he let us know that there
478
00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:03,804
and that maybe
we were just tired
479
00:31:03,828 --> 00:31:05,708
and probably just
hearing things.
480
00:31:07,332 --> 00:31:09,767
We knew we heard somebody.
481
00:31:12,604 --> 00:31:14,515
It's possible
that Clyde and his brother
482
00:31:14,539 --> 00:31:16,317
have been the
victims of a break-in,
483
00:31:16,341 --> 00:31:17,976
but nothing was taken,
484
00:31:18,009 --> 00:31:19,644
nobody was harmed,
485
00:31:19,677 --> 00:31:21,646
no intruder was seen,
486
00:31:21,679 --> 00:31:22,881
and they left the house
487
00:31:22,914 --> 00:31:26,818
without leaving any sign
of having been there at all.
488
00:31:26,851 --> 00:31:28,419
That leads me to believe
489
00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:30,822
that this is not a
living person at all.
490
00:31:30,855 --> 00:31:32,857
We're dealing with
something paranormal.
491
00:31:35,026 --> 00:31:37,838
So after the day is
going by and I realize, okay,
492
00:31:37,862 --> 00:31:39,497
the house is fine,
493
00:31:39,530 --> 00:31:41,666
there's nobody
here, I'm safe again...
494
00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:57,749
It sounded like heavy footsteps
495
00:31:57,782 --> 00:32:00,451
on the shingles
above where I slept.
496
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:26,420
It was somebody on the roof
497
00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:30,315
walking around and I froze.
498
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:34,128
My dad was not even home yet.
499
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:43,094
To hear a loud
footstep above where I slept,
500
00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:44,662
it terrified me.
501
00:32:50,335 --> 00:32:52,470
My dad came home,
502
00:32:52,503 --> 00:32:57,508
immediately a wall
of this sour smell hit.
503
00:32:58,176 --> 00:33:00,511
It was just this disgusting,
504
00:33:00,545 --> 00:33:02,680
strong odour that
came off of my dad.
505
00:33:04,515 --> 00:33:06,355
He had come back
from the morgue.
506
00:33:07,518 --> 00:33:08,486
He didn't look
at us in the eyes,
507
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:09,654
he kind of looked down.
508
00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:13,300
And we didn't
know what was going on.
509
00:33:14,325 --> 00:33:16,961
The stuff that he had
to have seen at his job
510
00:33:16,995 --> 00:33:18,529
should never have happened.
511
00:33:19,864 --> 00:33:21,508
He's seen women getting hurt,
512
00:33:21,532 --> 00:33:24,635
kids getting hurt.
513
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:27,538
He's seen countless gang
members killing each other.
514
00:33:30,375 --> 00:33:32,553
He tried to make it a habit
when he would come home,
515
00:33:32,577 --> 00:33:34,488
have a smile on
his face to show us
516
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,481
that the day didn't affect him,
517
00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:38,883
but we could tell that he
had a rough day at work.
518
00:33:40,518 --> 00:33:42,529
The fact that Clyde's father
519
00:33:42,553 --> 00:33:44,665
works in such a high stress,
520
00:33:44,689 --> 00:33:47,492
high traumatic profession
521
00:33:47,525 --> 00:33:50,361
that carries a lot of
emotional baggage
522
00:33:50,395 --> 00:33:53,531
would have a profound effect
on not only Clyde's father,
523
00:33:53,564 --> 00:33:55,867
but the whole entire family.
524
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,002
Could it be the
stresses and strains
525
00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:01,205
that Clyde's father is dealing
with as a police officer?
526
00:34:01,239 --> 00:34:02,407
Could the emotions,
527
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,941
the negative feelings
528
00:34:03,975 --> 00:34:05,910
that he experiences
because of that
529
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:07,545
be drawing something in,
530
00:34:07,578 --> 00:34:11,249
something that wants to feed
on those negative emotions?
531
00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:19,588
I told my mom
about the footsteps.
532
00:34:20,958 --> 00:34:23,361
She thought that I
was being dramatic.
533
00:34:24,729 --> 00:34:27,432
She told me that I needed to
stop watching scary movies,
534
00:34:28,466 --> 00:34:29,943
that I was just scaring myself
535
00:34:29,967 --> 00:34:31,807
and there was nothing going on.
536
00:34:35,273 --> 00:34:37,275
And I told her, well,
I didn't feel safe.
537
00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,559
But as matters escalate,
538
00:34:54,592 --> 00:34:58,162
they follow less real world
logic and it becomes apparent
539
00:34:58,196 --> 00:35:01,065
that Clyde's dealing with
something much more frightening.
540
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:04,001
Children are very
close and vulnerable
541
00:35:04,035 --> 00:35:06,170
to the spirit realm
that's around them,
542
00:35:06,204 --> 00:35:08,573
and so the fact that
Clyde is feeling this,
543
00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:10,975
he's feeling a
presence in his room,
544
00:35:11,008 --> 00:35:14,612
in his spaces, that we
need to trust what he's saying.
545
00:35:16,614 --> 00:35:17,825
Before we moved into this house,
546
00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:20,418
we got lucky enough to be
able to watch it being made
547
00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:23,154
and we were taken
there countless times
548
00:35:23,187 --> 00:35:26,157
from when it was just
piles of dirt everywhere.
549
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:29,293
And my mother, she
told us that the whole area
550
00:35:29,327 --> 00:35:32,463
was burial ground,
our whole street.
551
00:35:36,033 --> 00:35:37,602
According to Clyde's mother,
552
00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:40,438
their subdivision is
actually right on top
553
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:44,275
of sacred indigenous burial
grounds, which is huge.
554
00:35:44,308 --> 00:35:47,378
Clyde brings up a very
interesting possibility.
555
00:35:47,411 --> 00:35:51,015
Moreno Valley has been inhabs
556
00:35:51,048 --> 00:35:52,126
by the Pechanga people.
557
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:55,620
It's very important for
people to understand that
558
00:35:55,653 --> 00:35:58,389
indigenous burial
grounds are sacred.
559
00:35:58,422 --> 00:36:01,058
They're like any other
cemetery where people
560
00:36:01,092 --> 00:36:02,326
are laying to rest.
561
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,998
Can you imagine building a home
on somebody's family's remains?
562
00:36:07,031 --> 00:36:08,065
Absolutely not.
563
00:36:08,099 --> 00:36:09,867
So I can imagine that
564
00:36:09,901 --> 00:36:13,671
if-if their home is on
top of a burial ground,
565
00:36:13,704 --> 00:36:16,073
that those spirits
could potentially be
566
00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:19,143
feeling disrespected
and could be angry.
567
00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:40,707
I couldn't shake
the thought that somebody
568
00:36:40,731 --> 00:36:41,899
was just waiting.
569
00:37:00,084 --> 00:37:02,696
I started thinking maybe
it had something to do with
570
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,556
the burial ground
where my house is built.
571
00:37:06,757 --> 00:37:07,834
That alone terrified me.
572
00:37:07,858 --> 00:37:11,596
I imagined tons of spirits
everywhere outside,
573
00:37:11,629 --> 00:37:15,132
inside the house
and I was afraid.
574
00:37:15,166 --> 00:37:17,969
If it was an
indigenous burial ground,
575
00:37:18,002 --> 00:37:20,271
you would think
that these spirits
576
00:37:20,304 --> 00:37:23,608
would potentially be
bothering the whole family,
577
00:37:23,641 --> 00:37:25,710
but it specifically
targeted Clyde.
578
00:37:25,743 --> 00:37:27,078
So this leads me to believe
579
00:37:27,111 --> 00:37:29,747
that it is something
a little more personal.
580
00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:38,740
I started feeling like
somebody was staring at me.
581
00:37:40,358 --> 00:37:42,393
The hair on my
entire body stood up.
582
00:37:48,165 --> 00:37:50,110
And I was scared out of my mind.
583
00:38:15,259 --> 00:38:17,962
It felt like it
wanted to harm me
584
00:38:17,995 --> 00:38:19,473
and it was gonna
do whatever it could
585
00:38:19,497 --> 00:38:21,098
to do that.
586
00:38:30,708 --> 00:38:32,276
I'm laying down in bed.
587
00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:37,682
In the corner it was something
was just standing there.
588
00:38:37,715 --> 00:38:39,750
I can only see
the silhouette of it,
589
00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:42,119
but I can just feel it
was just staring at me.
590
00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:49,160
And it terrified
the hell out of me.
591
00:39:05,142 --> 00:39:07,178
I mean, there,
592
00:39:07,211 --> 00:39:09,180
but then there's
the next level up
593
00:39:09,213 --> 00:39:11,816
where you're just
shaking with fear.
594
00:39:11,849 --> 00:39:16,854
It came back over
and over again.
595
00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:28,631
What is this?
596
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:31,702
Where did it come from?
597
00:39:34,171 --> 00:39:36,140
What the hell does it want?
598
00:39:52,256 --> 00:39:54,568
The strange
phenomena that's plaguing Clyde
599
00:39:54,592 --> 00:39:56,861
started on the periphery.
600
00:39:56,894 --> 00:40:00,030
But as he goes through these
experiences night after night,
601
00:40:00,064 --> 00:40:05,069
it is closing in on him like a
hunter closes in on its prey.
602
00:40:09,707 --> 00:40:12,667
I would always try and
see what its face looked like.
603
00:40:15,212 --> 00:40:17,181
And it made sure it
had nothing for me
604
00:40:17,214 --> 00:40:19,550
to be able to describe
it to, to anyone.
605
00:40:28,993 --> 00:40:31,429
When an apparition
manifests visually,
606
00:40:31,462 --> 00:40:33,798
its appearance can
sometimes tell us
607
00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:36,033
about the way in which it died
608
00:40:36,066 --> 00:40:38,068
or some key piece of information
609
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:40,104
about the haunting itself.
610
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:45,994
Once I realized
I couldn't see his face,
611
00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:49,246
I remember thinking
back on the camera.
612
00:40:53,317 --> 00:40:56,287
My dad had a camera to
document certain things
613
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,355
that he was gonna
testify in court.
614
00:40:59,957 --> 00:41:02,560
And I got curious one day.
615
00:41:07,331 --> 00:41:10,100
I hit this library
button on the camera
616
00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:12,870
to see the last picture that.
617
00:41:14,705 --> 00:41:16,540
And it was-it was just horrible.
618
00:41:20,945 --> 00:41:25,783
This person had killed
himself with a shotgun.
619
00:41:28,285 --> 00:41:31,288
I immediately
connected the dots.
620
00:41:33,858 --> 00:41:36,260
My dad was going
to arrest this person
621
00:41:36,293 --> 00:41:38,496
and I believe he
blamed my father
622
00:41:38,529 --> 00:41:40,297
for having to kill himself.
623
00:41:41,165 --> 00:41:43,601
So now, he was
looking for revenge.
624
00:41:48,539 --> 00:41:49,950
We gathered the data,
625
00:41:49,974 --> 00:41:51,051
we've analyzed the evidence
626
00:41:51,075 --> 00:41:54,044
and one conclusion stands
out from all the others:
627
00:41:54,078 --> 00:41:57,515
that this victim felt
that he was cornered.
628
00:41:57,548 --> 00:41:59,483
Being arrested by Clyde's father
629
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:01,519
pushed him into
taking his own life.
630
00:42:01,552 --> 00:42:03,320
He lost his entire world
631
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:07,458
and now I think he wants
to inflict some degree of loss
632
00:42:07,491 --> 00:42:08,459
on Clyde's father.
633
00:42:08,492 --> 00:42:11,128
He's not targeting the
police officer himself,
634
00:42:11,161 --> 00:42:13,006
he's targeting the thing
that he cares for most
635
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:13,998
in all the world,
636
00:42:14,031 --> 00:42:14,999
his son.
637
00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:16,300
Who is vulnerable
638
00:42:16,333 --> 00:42:18,712
and impressionable
as a young person.
639
00:42:18,736 --> 00:42:21,372
It just makes for a
perfect revenge story.
640
00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:28,145
This thing haunted
me from the time I was 13
641
00:42:28,178 --> 00:42:29,713
until I was 18.
642
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,552
And that's when I
moved out of the house
643
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,289
and I never saw it again.
644
00:42:40,558 --> 00:42:42,638
Till this day I am
still afraid of the dark.
645
00:42:43,594 --> 00:42:47,231
I've learned that
there's a lot more to life
646
00:42:48,365 --> 00:42:51,201
and there's a lot more to dea.
647
00:42:51,569 --> 00:42:53,904
Just because they're
bad when they're alive
648
00:42:53,938 --> 00:42:56,407
doesn't mean they'll be
good when they're dead.
649
00:42:56,974 --> 00:42:58,542
Sometimes they stay bad.
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