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What is your favorite Western of the ones
you appeared in and why?
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My favorites?
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I have a few from Italy but I've forgotten their names,
where I was the lead,
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but my favorites are the ones with Clint Eastwood,
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"For a Few Dollars More", for example.
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Why?
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Because "A Fistful of Dollars" was filmed before that one,
also by Sergio Leone,
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I worked on that film with Sergio Leone
and he spent a lot of money on it,
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and it bankrupted the Italian company.
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And they told him, look, these Spaniards don't have
any money and we don't either.
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so on that long road along the Via Veneto in Italy,
with the American Clint Eastwood,
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we decided, let's see what we can do in Spain.
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So in the beginning that film was going badly
because there was no money.
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The village in Spain where we shot belonged to
Gregorio Manzanos and they didn't pay him.
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It was a disaster.
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I was working on 3 films at the same time, one in the East,
and I would arrive at night and then go back.
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One day I got home late and went straight to sleep.
And so the movie seemed like it was a disaster.
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But later on that film was number two
in the global box office.
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From there the status of Sergio Leone, Clint Eastwood
and Lee Van Cleef started to rise
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along with the rest of us who did spaghetti westerns,
so that was very good.
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I always liked the Spaghetti Western because it was different.
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They weren't like the old Western films
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They became popular due to the success of this movie.
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Then "For A Few Dollars More" was made
and had even more success.
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And the Americans started to copy how Sergio Leone did it.
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Understand? So in the beginning our Westerns in Almeria
didn't have any Americans in them.
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but since I was in the Vertical Trade Union, I could see
that it was very important to have an American name,
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because this would give us a sales advantage.
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That's what I always said, and from there on we did more.
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But we made good looking Westerns with the Italians
and they were good.
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When did you start and why did you decide to become an actor?
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By coincidence.
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I wanted to become an actor since I was a boy,
but the desire later passed and I set it aside.
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I joined the Civil Guard, because I was a son of a Civil Guard.
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I worked as a miner for seven years, then I went
into the Civil Guard to complete my military service.
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And I became a corporal in the Civil Guard.
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And then I left the Civil Guard and went to Madrid
to work with a Minister
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as a chauffeur, security guard, and everything.
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And one day I felt like a failure, so I said,
"I've come down in the world, I have to go somewhere."
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Then I met these students who had just finished film school
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And they told me, "Why don't you come with us?
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They were going to work on the film "King of Kings",
so I went with them.
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And there were like one hundred fifty,
two hundred people there.
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And the casting director chose only five people,
of which I was one
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And from there I started out as a stuntman.
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Margarita Delgras, who was daughter of Gonzalo Delgras,
was in the film,
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and she told me that her father was making a movie
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and she wanted me to work as an actor with him
because I was good looking and she thought I'd do well.
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And that was my first film, 52 years ago.
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Eventually I started to frequently work as an actor.
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Also secondly as a stuntman, which worked out well for me.
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This is how it went - every time I went to do a movie
they had my double wearing the exact same clothes as me ...
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And the director would always tell me, "Bran, I want you
to do the stunt, you know I want to see your face".
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And of course I broke a lot of bones and that's how it started.
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So I naturally transitioned from stuntman to actor.
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How was the casting done in these European Westerns?
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In these European Westerns the casting was very easy.
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There were very few people and they usually called you
directly because they'd seen you in an ad or something.
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The problem with this was, with big actors like Fernando
Fern�n G�mez and a lot of important actors was their English.
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I concentrated on studying English and went to London.
It helped me a lot.
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Because when a director called you, maybe he called
2, 3, 4 others for the part,
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or he only called you because of a photo or film
he'd seen you in,
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The important thing was to speak to the director directly.
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The actors would say, "Look", they'd say it in Spanish,
"I can learn my dialogue perfectly,
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but what I can't do is have a conversation with you."
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From there I started doing a lot of films - the American type
with the Americans, with Italy, with everyone.
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I spoke to the director directly and showed him how my
character worked,
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my method of acting with the eyes,
my appearance and all that.
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And there it is. I've done a lot of these types of films.
I've done more films with these companies than anyone.
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I've done more than fifty for Spain, and some actors
have done only two.
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What actor impressed you?
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Well, Clint Eastwood did not speak to anyone.
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I told Clint one day, "Look, a friend of mine wants you to
go to his house to eat dinner with his wife and me."
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And Clint was marvelous. We entered at 8 at night
and left at 3 in the morning. I was delighted.
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He was very sweet. Very timid, but very sweet.
Very intelligent, very humble.
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And he gave me the impression that American actors
are calm, good.
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Was it a problem acting/communicating with the actors in the
production when each one spoke their own native language?
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I never had a problem.
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I listened carefully and I studied my lines as well as the ones
of the others, so I didn't have any problems.
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How would you summarize your acting career now that
you've acted for more than 5 decades?
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I've had a love for cinema since I was a kid,
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but it was just chance that I went with those two friends
to work on that major film
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that gave me the opportunity to talk with
the director Nicholas Ray.
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Understand? For me that was very special and
I appreciated it.
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In the beginning I wasn't afraid of anything,
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but it was difficult when they called you for a film at the last
minute because another actor couldn't make it.
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I remember one time with William Holden
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they called me and I arrived late.
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I had a few drinks that night and I arrived home really late,
and they called me to work at 8am the next morning.
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They said, "Look, Mr. Brana, we need an actor.
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We need you because we know who you're reliable
and you speak English."
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When I saw that Fernando Arribas was working on the film
as cinematographer I said "Fine, fine, I'm delighted!"
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The next morning they said, "There's a car waiting for you
in front of your house and William Holden is in it also."
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And I said, "Fuck! Someone come and throw cold water on me!""
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Fortunately everything went very well and
they gave me a lot of dialogue in English with William.
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What was your favorite genre?
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My favorite? I don't really have one.
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I've done everything - Peplums, Robin Hood and Zorro films,
mad dog killers and modern day films, I played outlaw leaders,
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all of them. Lawyers, judges .....
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I've made many co-productions.
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All this more or less because of my looks.
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and the English. English was essential.
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In your first Western in 1964, directed by Ramon Dorando ...
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Torrado, Ramon Torrado.
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With Frank Latimore and Diana Lorys
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How did you find this role and how was it making
your first Western?
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For my first Western they contacted me directly, because
I was just starting out.
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I saw all the directors and Ramon Torrado did
a lot of movies.
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He was a calm man who carried a lot of weight at that time.
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He saw me in other films and liked what he saw.
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He simply called. There wasn't a screen test
or anything like that.
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He just said, "I want you to do this role."
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And what about Frank Latimore, how was it working with him?
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Well, Frank Latimore was an intimate friend of mine
for many years.
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We were friends, I always went to his house, he came to mine.
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I had a great friendship with Frank Latimore.
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He was married to an Asian woman, a woman who
was very hard.
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Do you remember any anecdotes about this first Western?
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To tell you the truth, in hindsight it seems like
it was so simple.
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Making a Western was like milking a cow.
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The hard ones were ahead of me, so it didn't make any
real impression.
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That same year you did "A Fistful Of Dollars".
Did you have the sense that it was going to be a special film?
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No one had that sense, because, in the beginning, as I said
before, there was no money in Italy or here in Spain.
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Jaime Comas, who was a board certified lawyer,
had a lot of money.
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He tried to find a way to make it all work.
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They rented the town from Manzaranes. but they also
didn't pay him,
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so I continued to make other movies since it looked like
this wasn't going to be finished and was a disaster.
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That's what most of us thought.
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After that the Spaniards abandoned it because
there was no money.
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The Italians maintained their support and moved forward,
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and the Americans started to look at the rushes and it all
seemed good to them.
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When we were almost finished they started to say
"This is going to be an important film."
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What was your relationship like with Sergio Leone?
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He wanted me in his whole trilogy -
I was like a good luck charm.
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Actually Sergio was a man who feared getting on a plane.
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A sweet man, but confident.
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Very serious, always well prepared. You always had to
prepare your dialogue very well.
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He wasn't violent. but he wouldn't be satisfied until all
the dialogue was spoken the way he wanted.
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He did this with his hands, so we called him "The Clacker".
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He did that with his hands, but he was very quiet. He signaled
what to do or say and he didn't care if it caused a delay.
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No, he was too experienced for that.
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I remember one day when I was shooting other movies in
Rome and, at the airport, the plane was really delayed.
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I was flying as a tourist and this man comes, sits next to me
and takes my hand.
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And it was Sergio Leone, and he said, "Franco,
I'm afraid we're going to die."
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And I said, "Soldier on, we're not going to die."
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And Sergio held my hand for the entire trip.
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Later, when Sergio became rich,
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Sergio started to take the chestnuts out of the fire.
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And now in "For A Few Dollars More" Clint Eastwood
charged a million dollars,
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The director a million dollars, and Lee Van Cleef
a half million dollars.
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Incredible how much in a year and a half Sergio's
finances changed!
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In 1964 you make "Ride and Kill" with Jos� Luis Borau
and Mario Caiano,
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the part of the protagonist was Alex Nicol,
and with Claudio Undari, Luis Induni
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My question is who directed this film because there are
two different directors listed. Do you remember?
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Tell me the two names again ....
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Jos� Luis Borau and Mario Caiano. "Ride and Kill".
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I believe Mario Caiano did that one.
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And how was it working with Alex Nicol and Claudio Undari?
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Fine. Normal, very calm. Fine, good.
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In '64 you made "Apache Fury" with Jose Maria Elorrieta.
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You again work with Frank Latimore and George Martin.
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In this film you had a bigger part and your name
changed to Frankie Bradford.
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Why did you change your name?
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The producers wanted to change my name to an American one.
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It became Frank. No more Francisco. It was the same name
that an American would have.
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And yes, George Martin worked in that film - I knew him.
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Because in the beginning he used to work in films
carrying the lights, and he did that well.
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And from there he became a stuntman.
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He asked me, "I'd like to work as a stuntman, can you
take me with you to Madrid?"
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So he came Madrid and started working as a stuntman,
and he had those good looks.
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I introduced him for the first film he did, and he didn't
have any money.
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Today he is a multi-millionaire in Miami.
Later on he dedicated himself to things other than acting.
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He did a lot of fims as a star, I brought him into the business.
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Do you remember anything about the film "Apache Fury"?
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Yes. It was the story about a judge. Elorrieta played a lawyer.
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Elorrieta was a saint. Working with him was like being
home with the family. He was very nice.
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We would stop production to eat and we would go
to the Tajo River in the morning.
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They gave us about and hour to eat and we would
leave for hours.
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Not much else - it was all good.
I got along marvelously with Frank Latimore, I tell you.
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Also in 1964 you finished "Two Violent Men",
directed by Primo Zeglio ...
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Yes, Primo Zeglio.
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with George Martin, Susy Anderson, Luis Induni. Did you get along
with George Martin and what type of person was he on and off set?
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George Martin was someone who came from nothing.
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George Martin was part of a gymnastic team.
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And he was in the military when his team flew to Canarias
and the plane crashed, killing everyone.
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He was the only one that survived from his team.
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After that success came to him in a roundabout way.
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He was in the movies as a stunt man.
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There were only a few stunt men in Barcelona, and they would
send them home because they said they were worthless.
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And we were going to Madrid. so this is where
George Martin asked me,
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"Frank, can you take me to Madrid with you because
I want to work in movies?"
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Besides, as a stuntman he was phenomenal.
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He would throw himself twenty feet or whatever,
from the horses.
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So I helped him get his start. Then one day the agent
that worked with me asked,
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"Do you know of a handsome guy who can act
and has a good look?"
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I showed her the photo of George Martin - "This guy?"
"Hell yes, this guy!"
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From that point on he became a star.
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We made that film in Candanch�.
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In 1964 you make another Western with Amando De Ossorio,
"Tomb Of The Pistolero" with George Martin and Tito Garcia.
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You will become a good lawyer.
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So what do you all think?
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You have won your first case.
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Take the gold.
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Do you have any recollections about this film?
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The director, Amando De Ossorio, was my friend.
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There was a cafeteria on the grounds where
the actors hung out.
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Armando was a good friend of mine. He knew me from all
the things I'd done and he was delightful.
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Amando was real talkative.
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The filming was, how should I say, very calm.
Very friendly with everyone.
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It was all very, very good - like being at home.
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How was Jack Taylor as a fellow actor?
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Well, Jack Taylor was an American who worked here
in Spain for many years.
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He was a little older than me although he did not look it.
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He was always good to work with as an actor.
He was humble when it was time to work.
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And in those films, where it helped to speak English,
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it worked out well because he was American and
good-looking.
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After that you did "Murieta" with George Sherman.
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How was it working with an American Director?
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Very good. I've found the Americans to be phenomenal.
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I had an experience with a new Spanish director ...
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I asked him, "Listen, can I do this?"
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He said arrogantly, "No. I'm the director here."
It was his first film.
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Conversely, with George Sherman, I said, "I would like
to do this with a certain gesture ...
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In the dialogue I'd like to stick a sentence here.
What do you think?" I don't remember the sentence ...
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He said, "Say it. Very good, thank you!"
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"Murieta" by George Sherman
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How was it working with Jeffrey Hunter, who you
worked with in "King of Kings"?
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Very well. I called him a friend ever since
"King of Kings". He was great!
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And what were the principal differences between a Spanish
co-production and an American co-production?
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Well, let's see .... there are some things that seemed strange
to me right from the start.
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If you're talking about personnel making you feel at home,
the films in Europe were much better.
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When it was time to eat, you sat in a restaurant to eat
and take a break.
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However, with the Americans, you had to get in line
to get your allotment of food.
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They had customs that were very different,
and one time I saw ...
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Henry Fonda in line getting his portion of food,
and Sergio Leone cut in front of him and took something.
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And Henry Fonda told him, "Do me a favor and don't touch the
food. Get in line like me. I've been doing this for many years".
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And the director had to get in line.
These seem like silly ways, but ...
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In 1965 you did "The Last Tomahawk", directed by Harold Reinl.
It was similar to his other German films in the Winnetou series.
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Among the actors was Joachim Fuchsberger.
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Do you remember anything about the film, cast, or production?
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Yes, I remember a lot. That film, for me, was like being at
home. Like being with family,
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because from the stars to everyone else, there was a familiar
atmosphere. Like a crew of friends.
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There wasn't a voice that was louder than the other - perfect!
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In 1965, you also did "Massacre at Fort Grant" with
Jose Maria Elorrieta.
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The cast included German Cobos, Aldo Sambrell, Cris Huerta,
and Luis Barboo.
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Do you remember anything about "Massacre at Fort Grant"?
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Yes. I remember it was shot in a town that was owned
by a judge.
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"Sunscorched" directed by Jaime Jes�s Balc�zar,
with Mark Stevens, Mario Adorf, Marianne Koch, Luis Induni ,...
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Do you remember anything about "Sunscorched"?
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Well, I remember that it was a film that was also very relaxed
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because this one was directed by Jaime Jes�s Balcazar.
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The Balcazars were two brothers.
Jesus was the younger and had been a priest.
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I got along very well with him, you know?
He was a very calm and educated man.
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And he knew the industry, and that was very important
as a director.
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He knew the industry very well and worked comfortably.
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Working comfortably is so important, because if the director
yells at you the first day, you know he'll be difficult.
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Overall the directors weren't difficult with me.
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Others would get mad with these kinds of directors,
but I adapted to them.
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Tell me about Lee Van Cleef, if you knew him,
how he was to act with, and off the set.
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Well, Lee Van Cleef was a normal guy,
but, he did not have the sweetness of Clint Eastwood.
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He was a man who had done a lot of small films in America.
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but what made him a star was "For a Few Dollars More".
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That was when he started to become the Lee Van Cleef we
all became familiar with.
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Because before that he was someone who made small films.
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And as a person, he was normal, but not very friendly either.
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He kept to himself and went about his work.
Understand?
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And how was it working with Gian Maria Volonte?
He was a communist, wasn't he?
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I got along wonderfully with Gian Maria Volonte, even
though we differ in our political beliefs.
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However, we got along wonderfully.
But Volonte was violent.
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He had a fight with another guy - what was his name?
The Cuban who lived in the United States ....
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Tomas Milian. They had a rough one.
They got along by shooting at each other!
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"For a Few Dollars More" ....
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Well, it was a normal film at the time, and Sergio Leone
was already a rich man.
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From the start he brought his own men with him during
the production.
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I'm not saying they were killers, but they were that type.
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They were security guards and that was different.
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However, Sergio was always very sweet to me,
and he had money.
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I stopped production one day .... I think it was in
"Once Upon A Time In The West",
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Yes, I stopped Sergio because we had been working for
nine hours, almost ten ...
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I was the one who specifically finalized the laws of the
vertical trade union - I finalized it myself for the most part.
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I said, "The Spaniards will not work anymore today."
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We faced off there for half an hour because
of those men who appeared to be security guards.
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I've never seen Sergio act that way. He had changed.
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I told him, "Look, the Spaniards have worked a full day.
The work day has ended, and also, it's Sunday."
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I stipulated that we charge double on Sunday, or triple,
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and you had to tell us beforehand if you needed to shoot.
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So I was in the hotel looking at the note signed by Frank
Brana, Claudia Cardinale, Charles Bronson, and others
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that said he had to ask permission for that - it's the law.
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Finally Sergio said, "Please ... " He hugged me and stood
for awhile with me.
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That was the end of that. In the end Sergio always wanted
me to be in all his films.
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"Adios Gringo" was directed by Giorgio Stegani and the cast
included Giuliano Gemma. How was it to work with Gemma?
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We got along very well. He was very sweet. Giuliano started
out as a fireman, and then became a stuntman.
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So we understood each other very well.
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Very likable, and we are true friends.
Very good friends.
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Next is "A Coffin For The Sheriff" by Mario Caiano, with Anthony
Steffen, Eduardo Fajardo, George Rigaud, Armando Calvo.
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Do you remember anything about this movie?
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Well, yes, I remember a lot, because it was a lot of fun.
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The star, Anthony Steffen, Antonio de Teff� was his real name,
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Well, he was very soft. The man was 197 pounds, but
very soft.
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We were always joking with him. I remember
one day we were doing a fight scene in the saloon
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and his hand slipped and he hit me in the face.
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And I told him, "You hit me in the face again, I'll punch
you so hard they'll have to bury you."
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But you said that as a friend?
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Yes, it was really nothing. We were all friends on that film.
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Amongst all these personalities .... well, even my brother
had a small part - Gonzalo Brana. He looked a lot like me.
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And what about the director, Mario Caiano?
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I got along very well with Mario Caiano because I did
another film with him in Egypt, I believe.
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Mario Caiano worked very fast. He knew what he wanted.
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He was always engrossed in the script. I got
along well with him.
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In 1966 you did "Mestizo" with Julio Buchs?
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Yes, I remember that it was a film that was
common and rural.
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I can't tell you specifics, but it was fine - a friendly
atmosphere. Very good.
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And what about the star, Hugo Blanco?
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Ah, Hugo Blanco, fine, he is a great friend. He's Argentinian.
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He relocated to Spain where he began in film. He
is also a good actor.
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Next is "Savage Gringo", directed by Antonio Roman. They
also list Mario Bava as director.
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Who really directed it, Antonio Roman or Mario Bava?
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Antonio Roman.
It was shot in Rome and Barcelona.
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Recently I've seen Mario Bava credited as director in this film.
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Well, the Italians put it there because they wanted an
Italian director listed in the film.
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"A Taste Of Killing" by Tonino Valeri, with the protagonist
Craig Hill ...
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Do you want me to comment about George Wang now?
Well, to me he was like one of the Spaniards there,
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so I didn't treat him like an American.
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He was from China, right?
And acted in Mexican roles ....
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Yes, he played Mexicans.
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And what do you remember about Craig Hill as an actor and
as a person?
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Phenomenal! Craig Hill was a marvelous person and a
sensational actor.
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Always with his dialogue memorized without any problems.
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A good companion who ws agreeable to everything.
A really good guy ..
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And you're still friends with him?
Yes.
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You stayed in contact?
Yes.
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"A Taste of Killing" was directed by Tonino Valerii.
He had been an assistant director in the first two Leone westerns.
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Do you remember him working with Leone?
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And how was it working with him?
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Fine. What happens is, when you're an assistant to an
important director, the assistant is always the one yelling.
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So the distinction is, the director was relaxed, whereas he,
as the assistant, was a bit nervous, bossy, but generally fine.
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Then in 1966 you did one of the big, big European
Westerns, "The Big Gundown", which got a lot of publicity.
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It was directed by Sergio Sollima, and starred
Lee Van Cleef and Tomas Milian.
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Yes, yes.
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You were one of the workers on Nieves Navarro's ranch.
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Yes, I was the leader of the gang.
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How was it working with Nieves Navarro?
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Ah, it was very good and we were also friends.
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It was very good with Nieves and with all the others.
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Lee Van Cleef kills me in the end, but I had to do
another film in Rome, and things were left unfinished,
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so my brother doubled for me.
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You had scenes with Tomas Milian and Lee Van Cleef.
How was it working with them on set?
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Very good. I got along very well with Tomas MIlian
since he was also Hispanic.
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But Milian had a big temper. A very big temper.
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I thought he was lewd.
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Yes, he was lewd, but he was confrontational only when
someone crossed him.
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Lee Van Cleef always kept to himself, very good, normal.
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How was it working with Sergio Sollima?
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Sergio was very sweet, very good - marvelous!
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We did another film together around Italy
and I was delighted working with him.
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He would put his hand on your shoulder and tell you
what he wanted.
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And since I had experience with him, I had no problems
whatsoever. He was a very calm director.
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Can you tell us about your casting in "The Good, The Bad,
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Well, in reality I had very little to do in "The Good, The Bad
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but Sergio wanted me to be in the beginning of the film.
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However, I was doing another movie in Almeria.
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But it went well and we ended up shooting an entire day.
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Leone shot at a slow pace, because, since it was the
beginning of the film, he wanted to do it clean, well.
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It was the day that I clocked in at ten hours.
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And they paid me for it - they paid me double.
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And how was Eli Wallach?
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I got along with Eli Wallach very well, he was charming.
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Eli Wallach, I believe, lived in Madrid with his
16 year old daughter.
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Charming. wonderful. He was like an uncle -
your father's brother who lives in your house ...
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who's the nice one, not the hard one - no, no, no.
Charming!
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Next, in 1967 is "The Ugly Ones" directed by Eugenio Martin.
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The cast includes Tomas Milian, Richard Wyler, Hugo Blanco,
Mario Brega, Ricardo Palacios.
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Do you have any stories about this film?
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No, I really don't remember anything special,
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because in this profession I dress up as the character,
act as the character, and then forget it.
376
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You have a very small role in this film - you die in
the beginning.
377
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Yes, well to me it's the same whether the role is small or big.
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How was it working with Eugenio Martin in "The Ugly Ones"?
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Fine with Eugenio. He was always very proper.
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I did another film with Eugenio before this one ...
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where I met ... wait a minute - George Martin.
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We're talking 49 or 50 years ago!
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Next in 1967 you did "A Few Bullets More" directed by
Julio Buchs.
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Yes, I remember that I was friends with everyone,
including the American star who died.
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You mean the German Peter Lee Lawrence ...
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Yes, Peter Lee Lawrence. I was a friend of his -
he liked me very much.
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I don't remember much else. It was like being at home
amongst friends.
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In 1967 you were in "Django Kill, If You Live Shoot!"
directed by Giulio Questi
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with Tomas Milian, Ray Lovelock, Roberto Camardiel, Peiro Lulli.
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This was your third film with Milian in a year. Any memories
of this surreal Western?
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Well, this one was a film that consisted of actors with
minor resentments,
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but other than that it was a good film.
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A film that I thought was well done, well directed.
A film that I liked doing.
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What were the conditions like working on this film?
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Normal for me, because they all respected me
because I was tough. I always was.
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I knew my place, but I was tough.
Most of the time everything worked out well for me.
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In 1967 you did "Rattler Kid" directed by Leon Klimovsky.
398
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The cast includes Richard Wyler and Brad Harris.
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You previously worked with Richard Wyler in "The Ugly Ones".
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How was he to work with?
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Very good, very proper. The same - a good friend.
402
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:43,040
And what about the muscleman Brad Harris? Did he like
doing Westerns after doing the Hercules Peplum films?
403
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I don't think he was very much into the Western genre,
but he did a good job acting in them.
404
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And what about Leon Klimovsky?
405
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Leon Klimovsky was very sweet - he was a very sweet man.
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Next is 1967's "God Forgives ... I Don't" by Giuseppe Colizzi.
And in the cast, Terence Hill, Bud Spencer, Frank Wolff etc.
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You're in the first scene after the massacre on the train.
Do you remember this film?
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"God Forgives ... I don't" - ah yes, let me see ...
they called for me to have a big role in this film in Spain,
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but it was a low budget film and I was doing an important
film in Rome at the same time.
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I don't remember which one, but it paid very well.
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So I turned it down because I thought the film was going
to be a minor film.
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But it turned out well, and was a very acceptable film,
almost good, but they needed to shoot more footage.
413
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They knew I was in Rome doing the other film and
knew it was coming to an end,
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so I stayed five more days so I could play that character
in the beginning of the film.
415
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040
How was it working with Bud Spencer and Terence Hill?
416
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Ah, very good, but I didn't work with Spencer.
No?
417
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:16,040
No. That was the first film they did together. That's
where it all began when they became a team.
418
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:23,040
I've worked with Terence Hill and he was very sweet.
We got along marvelously.
419
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,040
I used to ride around in his car. I didn't know Bud.
420
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,040
What about the director Giuseppe Colizzi?
421
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Good, very good.
422
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:44,040
And what do you remember about Frank Wolff?
He commited suicide later on after doing the Westerns.
423
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:57,040
Well, I remember he was a very introverted man,
but always a man that you could talk to.
424
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Very calm, but introverted.
425
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,040
I saw something was a bit off in him, but it didn't register.
426
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,040
Next in 1967 you were cast again with Sergio Sollima in
"Face to Face" starring Tomas Milian and Gian Maria Volonte.
427
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,040
Well, I don't do casting. They'd call and say they
wanted Brana - period.
428
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,040
It's not like now where 200 people audition for one part.
429
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:34,040
This was the fourth film you made with Tomas Milian.
Was he different in this film?
430
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Because he was known for being difficult to work with.
Very arrogant.
431
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,040
Tomas Milian had a lot of balls - he did not stand for any
sort of mistreatment.
432
00:46:48,000 --> 00:47:00,040
I remember in "The Big Gundown" with Lee Van Cleef,
that he had to fall face down into mud in a pig sty.
433
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:08,040
And there were pigs there where we were shooting.
434
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,040
He fell face first into the pig muck. He was very professional.
435
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,040
He was a man who really believed he was correct in the way
he interpreted a scene and stood his ground to do it that way.
436
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,040
He would fight with anyone telling him to change it.
437
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,040
Like Gian Maria Volonte ....
438
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Do you remember any incidents between Milian and Volonte?
439
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:47,040
Well, I know they barked at each other a little, like a
4pair of dogs, but nothing special.
440
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,040
And how was Sollima in this movie?
441
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Sollima was like he always was - very sweet. It was
like being at home with Sollima.
442
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,040
In 1968 you did "Ringo the Lone Rider" directed by
Rafael Romero Marchent.
443
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,040
The cast included Peter Martell, Piero Lulli, Armando Calvo,
Jose Jaspe.
444
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,040
Do you remember anything about this film and its cast?
445
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,040
Well, I remember that it was one of the many films where
I had a good time. A very good time!
446
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Frank Brana continued to make Euro Estern
untill late in the 70th.
447
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:17,880
He pased away in the year 2012 in Madrid,
at the age of 77.
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