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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,240 --> 00:00:31,600 What is your favorite Western of the ones you appeared in and why? 2 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,600 My favorites? 3 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,680 I have a few from Italy but I've forgotten their names, where I was the lead, 4 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 but my favorites are the ones with Clint Eastwood, 5 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,680 "For a Few Dollars More", for example. 6 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,720 Why? 7 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:53,280 Because "A Fistful of Dollars" was filmed before that one, also by Sergio Leone, 8 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,840 I worked on that film with Sergio Leone and he spent a lot of money on it, 9 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,880 and it bankrupted the Italian company. 10 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,040 And they told him, look, these Spaniards don't have any money and we don't either. 11 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:19,040 so on that long road along the Via Veneto in Italy, with the American Clint Eastwood, 12 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,040 we decided, let's see what we can do in Spain. 13 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,000 So in the beginning that film was going badly because there was no money. 14 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,000 The village in Spain where we shot belonged to Gregorio Manzanos and they didn't pay him. 15 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,000 It was a disaster. 16 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,040 I was working on 3 films at the same time, one in the East, and I would arrive at night and then go back. 17 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,040 One day I got home late and went straight to sleep. And so the movie seemed like it was a disaster. 18 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,040 But later on that film was number two in the global box office. 19 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,040 From there the status of Sergio Leone, Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef started to rise 20 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,040 along with the rest of us who did spaghetti westerns, so that was very good. 21 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,040 I always liked the Spaghetti Western because it was different. 22 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 They weren't like the old Western films 23 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,040 They became popular due to the success of this movie. 24 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Then "For A Few Dollars More" was made and had even more success. 25 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:50,040 And the Americans started to copy how Sergio Leone did it. 26 00:02:51,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Understand? So in the beginning our Westerns in Almeria didn't have any Americans in them. 27 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:10,040 but since I was in the Vertical Trade Union, I could see that it was very important to have an American name, 28 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,040 because this would give us a sales advantage. 29 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 That's what I always said, and from there on we did more. 30 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,040 But we made good looking Westerns with the Italians and they were good. 31 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,040 When did you start and why did you decide to become an actor? 32 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,040 By coincidence. 33 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:40,040 I wanted to become an actor since I was a boy, but the desire later passed and I set it aside. 34 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,040 I joined the Civil Guard, because I was a son of a Civil Guard. 35 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,040 I worked as a miner for seven years, then I went into the Civil Guard to complete my military service. 36 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,040 And I became a corporal in the Civil Guard. 37 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,040 And then I left the Civil Guard and went to Madrid to work with a Minister 38 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,040 as a chauffeur, security guard, and everything. 39 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,040 And one day I felt like a failure, so I said, "I've come down in the world, I have to go somewhere." 40 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,040 Then I met these students who had just finished film school 41 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,040 And they told me, "Why don't you come with us? 42 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,040 They were going to work on the film "King of Kings", so I went with them. 43 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,040 And there were like one hundred fifty, two hundred people there. 44 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,040 And the casting director chose only five people, of which I was one 45 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,040 And from there I started out as a stuntman. 46 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,040 Margarita Delgras, who was daughter of Gonzalo Delgras, was in the film, 47 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,040 and she told me that her father was making a movie 48 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,040 and she wanted me to work as an actor with him because I was good looking and she thought I'd do well. 49 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,040 And that was my first film, 52 years ago. 50 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Eventually I started to frequently work as an actor. 51 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,040 Also secondly as a stuntman, which worked out well for me. 52 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:26,040 This is how it went - every time I went to do a movie they had my double wearing the exact same clothes as me ... 53 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,040 And the director would always tell me, "Bran, I want you to do the stunt, you know I want to see your face". 54 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,040 And of course I broke a lot of bones and that's how it started. 55 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,040 So I naturally transitioned from stuntman to actor. 56 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,040 How was the casting done in these European Westerns? 57 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,040 In these European Westerns the casting was very easy. 58 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,040 There were very few people and they usually called you directly because they'd seen you in an ad or something. 59 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:13,040 The problem with this was, with big actors like Fernando Fern�n G�mez and a lot of important actors was their English. 60 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:21,040 I concentrated on studying English and went to London. It helped me a lot. 61 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:28,040 Because when a director called you, maybe he called 2, 3, 4 others for the part, 62 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,040 or he only called you because of a photo or film he'd seen you in, 63 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,040 The important thing was to speak to the director directly. 64 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,040 The actors would say, "Look", they'd say it in Spanish, "I can learn my dialogue perfectly, 65 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,040 but what I can't do is have a conversation with you." 66 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:57,040 From there I started doing a lot of films - the American type with the Americans, with Italy, with everyone. 67 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,040 I spoke to the director directly and showed him how my character worked, 68 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,040 my method of acting with the eyes, my appearance and all that. 69 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:16,040 And there it is. I've done a lot of these types of films. I've done more films with these companies than anyone. 70 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:24,040 I've done more than fifty for Spain, and some actors have done only two. 71 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,040 What actor impressed you? 72 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,040 Well, Clint Eastwood did not speak to anyone. 73 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:42,040 I told Clint one day, "Look, a friend of mine wants you to go to his house to eat dinner with his wife and me." 74 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:52,040 And Clint was marvelous. We entered at 8 at night and left at 3 in the morning. I was delighted. 75 00:07:53,000 --> 00:08:00,040 He was very sweet. Very timid, but very sweet. Very intelligent, very humble. 76 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:09,040 And he gave me the impression that American actors are calm, good. 77 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:19,040 Was it a problem acting/communicating with the actors in the production when each one spoke their own native language? 78 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,040 I never had a problem. 79 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:30,040 I listened carefully and I studied my lines as well as the ones of the others, so I didn't have any problems. 80 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:38,040 How would you summarize your acting career now that you've acted for more than 5 decades? 81 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,040 I've had a love for cinema since I was a kid, 82 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,040 but it was just chance that I went with those two friends to work on that major film 83 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,040 that gave me the opportunity to talk with the director Nicholas Ray. 84 00:08:54,000 --> 00:09:01,040 Understand? For me that was very special and I appreciated it. 85 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,040 In the beginning I wasn't afraid of anything, 86 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:13,040 but it was difficult when they called you for a film at the last minute because another actor couldn't make it. 87 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,040 I remember one time with William Holden 88 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,040 they called me and I arrived late. 89 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:27,040 I had a few drinks that night and I arrived home really late, and they called me to work at 8am the next morning. 90 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,040 They said, "Look, Mr. Brana, we need an actor. 91 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,040 We need you because we know who you're reliable and you speak English." 92 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,040 When I saw that Fernando Arribas was working on the film as cinematographer I said "Fine, fine, I'm delighted!" 93 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,040 The next morning they said, "There's a car waiting for you in front of your house and William Holden is in it also." 94 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,040 And I said, "Fuck! Someone come and throw cold water on me!"" 95 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Fortunately everything went very well and they gave me a lot of dialogue in English with William. 96 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,040 What was your favorite genre? 97 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,040 My favorite? I don't really have one. 98 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:23,040 I've done everything - Peplums, Robin Hood and Zorro films, mad dog killers and modern day films, I played outlaw leaders, 99 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,040 all of them. Lawyers, judges ..... 100 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,040 I've made many co-productions. 101 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,040 All this more or less because of my looks. 102 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,040 and the English. English was essential. 103 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:49,040 In your first Western in 1964, directed by Ramon Dorando ... 104 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,040 Torrado, Ramon Torrado. 105 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,040 With Frank Latimore and Diana Lorys 106 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:04,040 How did you find this role and how was it making your first Western? 107 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:13,040 For my first Western they contacted me directly, because I was just starting out. 108 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,040 I saw all the directors and Ramon Torrado did a lot of movies. 109 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 He was a calm man who carried a lot of weight at that time. 110 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,040 He saw me in other films and liked what he saw. 111 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,040 He simply called. There wasn't a screen test or anything like that. 112 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,040 He just said, "I want you to do this role." 113 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,040 And what about Frank Latimore, how was it working with him? 114 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Well, Frank Latimore was an intimate friend of mine for many years. 115 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,040 We were friends, I always went to his house, he came to mine. 116 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,040 I had a great friendship with Frank Latimore. 117 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:04,040 He was married to an Asian woman, a woman who was very hard. 118 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,040 Do you remember any anecdotes about this first Western? 119 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,040 To tell you the truth, in hindsight it seems like it was so simple. 120 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:20,040 Making a Western was like milking a cow. 121 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:29,040 The hard ones were ahead of me, so it didn't make any real impression. 122 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:39,040 That same year you did "A Fistful Of Dollars". Did you have the sense that it was going to be a special film? 123 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:51,040 No one had that sense, because, in the beginning, as I said before, there was no money in Italy or here in Spain. 124 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,040 Jaime Comas, who was a board certified lawyer, had a lot of money. 125 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,040 He tried to find a way to make it all work. 126 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,040 They rented the town from Manzaranes. but they also didn't pay him, 127 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:14,040 so I continued to make other movies since it looked like this wasn't going to be finished and was a disaster. 128 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,040 That's what most of us thought. 129 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,040 After that the Spaniards abandoned it because there was no money. 130 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,040 The Italians maintained their support and moved forward, 131 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:38,040 and the Americans started to look at the rushes and it all seemed good to them. 132 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:47,040 When we were almost finished they started to say "This is going to be an important film." 133 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,040 What was your relationship like with Sergio Leone? 134 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:59,040 He wanted me in his whole trilogy - I was like a good luck charm. 135 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Actually Sergio was a man who feared getting on a plane. 136 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,040 A sweet man, but confident. 137 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Very serious, always well prepared. You always had to prepare your dialogue very well. 138 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:26,040 He wasn't violent. but he wouldn't be satisfied until all the dialogue was spoken the way he wanted. 139 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,040 He did this with his hands, so we called him "The Clacker". 140 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:39,040 He did that with his hands, but he was very quiet. He signaled what to do or say and he didn't care if it caused a delay. 141 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,040 No, he was too experienced for that. 142 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:55,040 I remember one day when I was shooting other movies in Rome and, at the airport, the plane was really delayed. 143 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:05,040 I was flying as a tourist and this man comes, sits next to me and takes my hand. 144 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:11,040 And it was Sergio Leone, and he said, "Franco, I'm afraid we're going to die." 145 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,040 And I said, "Soldier on, we're not going to die." 146 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,040 And Sergio held my hand for the entire trip. 147 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Later, when Sergio became rich, 148 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Sergio started to take the chestnuts out of the fire. 149 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:36,040 And now in "For A Few Dollars More" Clint Eastwood charged a million dollars, 150 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,040 The director a million dollars, and Lee Van Cleef a half million dollars. 151 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,040 Incredible how much in a year and a half Sergio's finances changed! 152 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:57,040 In 1964 you make "Ride and Kill" with Jos� Luis Borau and Mario Caiano, 153 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,040 the part of the protagonist was Alex Nicol, and with Claudio Undari, Luis Induni 154 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:12,520 My question is who directed this film because there are two different directors listed. Do you remember? 155 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Tell me the two names again .... 156 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Jos� Luis Borau and Mario Caiano. "Ride and Kill". 157 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,200 I believe Mario Caiano did that one. 158 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,240 And how was it working with Alex Nicol and Claudio Undari? 159 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:37,280 Fine. Normal, very calm. Fine, good. 160 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,320 In '64 you made "Apache Fury" with Jose Maria Elorrieta. 161 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,360 You again work with Frank Latimore and George Martin. 162 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,520 In this film you had a bigger part and your name changed to Frankie Bradford. 163 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Why did you change your name? 164 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,600 The producers wanted to change my name to an American one. 165 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:19,640 It became Frank. No more Francisco. It was the same name that an American would have. 166 00:17:20,360 --> 00:17:24,720 And yes, George Martin worked in that film - I knew him. 167 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:35,800 Because in the beginning he used to work in films carrying the lights, and he did that well. 168 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,840 And from there he became a stuntman. 169 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,000 He asked me, "I'd like to work as a stuntman, can you take me with you to Madrid?" 170 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:53,040 So he came Madrid and started working as a stuntman, and he had those good looks. 171 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,040 I introduced him for the first film he did, and he didn't have any money. 172 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,040 Today he is a multi-millionaire in Miami. Later on he dedicated himself to things other than acting. 173 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,040 He did a lot of fims as a star, I brought him into the business. 174 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Do you remember anything about the film "Apache Fury"? 175 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Yes. It was the story about a judge. Elorrieta played a lawyer. 176 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:30,040 Elorrieta was a saint. Working with him was like being home with the family. He was very nice. 177 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:36,040 We would stop production to eat and we would go to the Tajo River in the morning. 178 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,040 They gave us about and hour to eat and we would leave for hours. 179 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:49,040 Not much else - it was all good. I got along marvelously with Frank Latimore, I tell you. 180 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Also in 1964 you finished "Two Violent Men", directed by Primo Zeglio ... 181 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Yes, Primo Zeglio. 182 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:13,040 with George Martin, Susy Anderson, Luis Induni. Did you get along with George Martin and what type of person was he on and off set? 183 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,040 George Martin was someone who came from nothing. 184 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,040 George Martin was part of a gymnastic team. 185 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,040 And he was in the military when his team flew to Canarias and the plane crashed, killing everyone. 186 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,040 He was the only one that survived from his team. 187 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,040 After that success came to him in a roundabout way. 188 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,040 He was in the movies as a stunt man. 189 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,040 There were only a few stunt men in Barcelona, and they would send them home because they said they were worthless. 190 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,040 And we were going to Madrid. so this is where George Martin asked me, 191 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:59,040 "Frank, can you take me to Madrid with you because I want to work in movies?" 192 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,040 Besides, as a stuntman he was phenomenal. 193 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,040 He would throw himself twenty feet or whatever, from the horses. 194 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,040 So I helped him get his start. Then one day the agent that worked with me asked, 195 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,040 "Do you know of a handsome guy who can act and has a good look?" 196 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,040 I showed her the photo of George Martin - "This guy?" "Hell yes, this guy!" 197 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,040 From that point on he became a star. 198 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,040 We made that film in Candanch�. 199 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:44,040 In 1964 you make another Western with Amando De Ossorio, "Tomb Of The Pistolero" with George Martin and Tito Garcia. 200 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,040 You will become a good lawyer. 201 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,040 So what do you all think? 202 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,040 You have won your first case. 203 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,720 Take the gold. 204 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,040 Do you have any recollections about this film? 205 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,640 The director, Amando De Ossorio, was my friend. 206 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,040 There was a cafeteria on the grounds where the actors hung out. 207 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Armando was a good friend of mine. He knew me from all the things I'd done and he was delightful. 208 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Amando was real talkative. 209 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,040 The filming was, how should I say, very calm. Very friendly with everyone. 210 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,040 It was all very, very good - like being at home. 211 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,040 How was Jack Taylor as a fellow actor? 212 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Well, Jack Taylor was an American who worked here in Spain for many years. 213 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,040 He was a little older than me although he did not look it. 214 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,040 He was always good to work with as an actor. He was humble when it was time to work. 215 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,040 And in those films, where it helped to speak English, 216 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,040 it worked out well because he was American and good-looking. 217 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,040 After that you did "Murieta" with George Sherman. 218 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,040 How was it working with an American Director? 219 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Very good. I've found the Americans to be phenomenal. 220 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,040 I had an experience with a new Spanish director ... 221 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,040 I asked him, "Listen, can I do this?" 222 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,040 He said arrogantly, "No. I'm the director here." It was his first film. 223 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,040 Conversely, with George Sherman, I said, "I would like to do this with a certain gesture ... 224 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,040 In the dialogue I'd like to stick a sentence here. What do you think?" I don't remember the sentence ... 225 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,040 He said, "Say it. Very good, thank you!" 226 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,040 "Murieta" by George Sherman 227 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,040 How was it working with Jeffrey Hunter, who you worked with in "King of Kings"? 228 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Very well. I called him a friend ever since "King of Kings". He was great! 229 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,040 And what were the principal differences between a Spanish co-production and an American co-production? 230 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:40,040 Well, let's see .... there are some things that seemed strange to me right from the start. 231 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:47,040 If you're talking about personnel making you feel at home, the films in Europe were much better. 232 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,040 When it was time to eat, you sat in a restaurant to eat and take a break. 233 00:23:53,000 --> 00:24:00,040 However, with the Americans, you had to get in line to get your allotment of food. 234 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:06,040 They had customs that were very different, and one time I saw ... 235 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Henry Fonda in line getting his portion of food, and Sergio Leone cut in front of him and took something. 236 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:32,040 And Henry Fonda told him, "Do me a favor and don't touch the food. Get in line like me. I've been doing this for many years". 237 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,040 And the director had to get in line. These seem like silly ways, but ... 238 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:48,040 In 1965 you did "The Last Tomahawk", directed by Harold Reinl. It was similar to his other German films in the Winnetou series. 239 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,040 Among the actors was Joachim Fuchsberger. 240 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Do you remember anything about the film, cast, or production? 241 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,040 Yes, I remember a lot. That film, for me, was like being at home. Like being with family, 242 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:12,040 because from the stars to everyone else, there was a familiar atmosphere. Like a crew of friends. 243 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,040 There wasn't a voice that was louder than the other - perfect! 244 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,040 In 1965, you also did "Massacre at Fort Grant" with Jose Maria Elorrieta. 245 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,040 The cast included German Cobos, Aldo Sambrell, Cris Huerta, and Luis Barboo. 246 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Do you remember anything about "Massacre at Fort Grant"? 247 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,040 Yes. I remember it was shot in a town that was owned by a judge. 248 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:14,040 "Sunscorched" directed by Jaime Jes�s Balc�zar, with Mark Stevens, Mario Adorf, Marianne Koch, Luis Induni ,... 249 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Do you remember anything about "Sunscorched"? 250 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Well, I remember that it was a film that was also very relaxed 251 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,040 because this one was directed by Jaime Jes�s Balcazar. 252 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,040 The Balcazars were two brothers. Jesus was the younger and had been a priest. 253 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:39,040 I got along very well with him, you know? He was a very calm and educated man. 254 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:46,040 And he knew the industry, and that was very important as a director. 255 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,040 He knew the industry very well and worked comfortably. 256 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:57,040 Working comfortably is so important, because if the director yells at you the first day, you know he'll be difficult. 257 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Overall the directors weren't difficult with me. 258 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Others would get mad with these kinds of directors, but I adapted to them. 259 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Tell me about Lee Van Cleef, if you knew him, how he was to act with, and off the set. 260 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:20,040 Well, Lee Van Cleef was a normal guy, but, he did not have the sweetness of Clint Eastwood. 261 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,040 He was a man who had done a lot of small films in America. 262 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,040 but what made him a star was "For a Few Dollars More". 263 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,040 That was when he started to become the Lee Van Cleef we all became familiar with. 264 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,040 Because before that he was someone who made small films. 265 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,040 And as a person, he was normal, but not very friendly either. 266 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,040 He kept to himself and went about his work. Understand? 267 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,040 And how was it working with Gian Maria Volonte? He was a communist, wasn't he? 268 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,040 I got along wonderfully with Gian Maria Volonte, even though we differ in our political beliefs. 269 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,040 However, we got along wonderfully. But Volonte was violent. 270 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:15,040 He had a fight with another guy - what was his name? The Cuban who lived in the United States .... 271 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Tomas Milian. They had a rough one. They got along by shooting at each other! 272 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,040 "For a Few Dollars More" .... 273 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Well, it was a normal film at the time, and Sergio Leone was already a rich man. 274 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,040 From the start he brought his own men with him during the production. 275 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,040 I'm not saying they were killers, but they were that type. 276 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,040 They were security guards and that was different. 277 00:28:53,000 --> 00:29:00,040 However, Sergio was always very sweet to me, and he had money. 278 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:11,040 I stopped production one day .... I think it was in "Once Upon A Time In The West", 279 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Yes, I stopped Sergio because we had been working for nine hours, almost ten ... 280 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:29,040 I was the one who specifically finalized the laws of the vertical trade union - I finalized it myself for the most part. 281 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,040 I said, "The Spaniards will not work anymore today." 282 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:44,040 We faced off there for half an hour because of those men who appeared to be security guards. 283 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,040 I've never seen Sergio act that way. He had changed. 284 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:57,040 I told him, "Look, the Spaniards have worked a full day. The work day has ended, and also, it's Sunday." 285 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,040 I stipulated that we charge double on Sunday, or triple, 286 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,040 and you had to tell us beforehand if you needed to shoot. 287 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:16,040 So I was in the hotel looking at the note signed by Frank Brana, Claudia Cardinale, Charles Bronson, and others 288 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,040 that said he had to ask permission for that - it's the law. 289 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Finally Sergio said, "Please ... " He hugged me and stood for awhile with me. 290 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,040 That was the end of that. In the end Sergio always wanted me to be in all his films. 291 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:46,040 "Adios Gringo" was directed by Giorgio Stegani and the cast included Giuliano Gemma. How was it to work with Gemma? 292 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:55,040 We got along very well. He was very sweet. Giuliano started out as a fireman, and then became a stuntman. 293 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,040 So we understood each other very well. 294 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,040 Very likable, and we are true friends. Very good friends. 295 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:42,040 Next is "A Coffin For The Sheriff" by Mario Caiano, with Anthony Steffen, Eduardo Fajardo, George Rigaud, Armando Calvo. 296 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,040 Do you remember anything about this movie? 297 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,040 Well, yes, I remember a lot, because it was a lot of fun. 298 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:56,040 The star, Anthony Steffen, Antonio de Teff� was his real name, 299 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:03,040 Well, he was very soft. The man was 197 pounds, but very soft. 300 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:12,040 We were always joking with him. I remember one day we were doing a fight scene in the saloon 301 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,040 and his hand slipped and he hit me in the face. 302 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:25,040 And I told him, "You hit me in the face again, I'll punch you so hard they'll have to bury you." 303 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040 But you said that as a friend? 304 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Yes, it was really nothing. We were all friends on that film. 305 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:55,800 Amongst all these personalities .... well, even my brother had a small part - Gonzalo Brana. He looked a lot like me. 306 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120 And what about the director, Mario Caiano? 307 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:07,200 I got along very well with Mario Caiano because I did another film with him in Egypt, I believe. 308 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,240 Mario Caiano worked very fast. He knew what he wanted. 309 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,280 He was always engrossed in the script. I got along well with him. 310 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,360 In 1966 you did "Mestizo" with Julio Buchs? 311 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Yes, I remember that it was a film that was common and rural. 312 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,440 I can't tell you specifics, but it was fine - a friendly atmosphere. Very good. 313 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,440 And what about the star, Hugo Blanco? 314 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,520 Ah, Hugo Blanco, fine, he is a great friend. He's Argentinian. 315 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,560 He relocated to Spain where he began in film. He is also a good actor. 316 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Next is "Savage Gringo", directed by Antonio Roman. They also list Mario Bava as director. 317 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,720 Who really directed it, Antonio Roman or Mario Bava? 318 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,760 Antonio Roman. It was shot in Rome and Barcelona. 319 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,800 Recently I've seen Mario Bava credited as director in this film. 320 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,840 Well, the Italians put it there because they wanted an Italian director listed in the film. 321 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,040 "A Taste Of Killing" by Tonino Valeri, with the protagonist Craig Hill ... 322 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:38,040 Do you want me to comment about George Wang now? Well, to me he was like one of the Spaniards there, 323 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,040 so I didn't treat him like an American. 324 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:48,000 He was from China, right? And acted in Mexican roles .... 325 00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:50,040 Yes, he played Mexicans. 326 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,040 And what do you remember about Craig Hill as an actor and as a person? 327 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:12,040 Phenomenal! Craig Hill was a marvelous person and a sensational actor. 328 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,040 Always with his dialogue memorized without any problems. 329 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,040 A good companion who ws agreeable to everything. A really good guy .. 330 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,040 And you're still friends with him? Yes. 331 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,040 You stayed in contact? Yes. 332 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:36,040 "A Taste of Killing" was directed by Tonino Valerii. He had been an assistant director in the first two Leone westerns. 333 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:42,040 Do you remember him working with Leone? 334 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,040 And how was it working with him? 335 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:59,040 Fine. What happens is, when you're an assistant to an important director, the assistant is always the one yelling. 336 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:14,040 So the distinction is, the director was relaxed, whereas he, as the assistant, was a bit nervous, bossy, but generally fine. 337 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:24,040 Then in 1966 you did one of the big, big European Westerns, "The Big Gundown", which got a lot of publicity. 338 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,040 It was directed by Sergio Sollima, and starred Lee Van Cleef and Tomas Milian. 339 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040 Yes, yes. 340 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:37,040 You were one of the workers on Nieves Navarro's ranch. 341 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,040 Yes, I was the leader of the gang. 342 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,040 How was it working with Nieves Navarro? 343 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,040 Ah, it was very good and we were also friends. 344 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,040 It was very good with Nieves and with all the others. 345 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Lee Van Cleef kills me in the end, but I had to do another film in Rome, and things were left unfinished, 346 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,040 so my brother doubled for me. 347 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:26,040 You had scenes with Tomas Milian and Lee Van Cleef. How was it working with them on set? 348 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:33,040 Very good. I got along very well with Tomas MIlian since he was also Hispanic. 349 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040 But Milian had a big temper. A very big temper. 350 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,040 I thought he was lewd. 351 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:50,040 Yes, he was lewd, but he was confrontational only when someone crossed him. 352 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,040 Lee Van Cleef always kept to himself, very good, normal. 353 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040 How was it working with Sergio Sollima? 354 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,040 Sergio was very sweet, very good - marvelous! 355 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,040 We did another film together around Italy and I was delighted working with him. 356 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:19,040 He would put his hand on your shoulder and tell you what he wanted. 357 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:27,040 And since I had experience with him, I had no problems whatsoever. He was a very calm director. 358 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,040 Can you tell us about your casting in "The Good, The Bad, 359 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,040 Well, in reality I had very little to do in "The Good, The Bad 360 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,640 but Sergio wanted me to be in the beginning of the film. 361 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,760 However, I was doing another movie in Almeria. 362 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:48,000 But it went well and we ended up shooting an entire day. 363 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:57,040 Leone shot at a slow pace, because, since it was the beginning of the film, he wanted to do it clean, well. 364 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040 It was the day that I clocked in at ten hours. 365 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,040 And they paid me for it - they paid me double. 366 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,040 And how was Eli Wallach? 367 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,040 I got along with Eli Wallach very well, he was charming. 368 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,040 Eli Wallach, I believe, lived in Madrid with his 16 year old daughter. 369 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:28,040 Charming. wonderful. He was like an uncle - your father's brother who lives in your house ... 370 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,040 who's the nice one, not the hard one - no, no, no. Charming! 371 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040 Next, in 1967 is "The Ugly Ones" directed by Eugenio Martin. 372 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:44,040 The cast includes Tomas Milian, Richard Wyler, Hugo Blanco, Mario Brega, Ricardo Palacios. 373 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,040 Do you have any stories about this film? 374 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,040 No, I really don't remember anything special, 375 00:39:52,000 --> 00:40:01,040 because in this profession I dress up as the character, act as the character, and then forget it. 376 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,040 You have a very small role in this film - you die in the beginning. 377 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,040 Yes, well to me it's the same whether the role is small or big. 378 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,040 How was it working with Eugenio Martin in "The Ugly Ones"? 379 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,040 Fine with Eugenio. He was always very proper. 380 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:22,040 I did another film with Eugenio before this one ... 381 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:30,040 where I met ... wait a minute - George Martin. 382 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,040 We're talking 49 or 50 years ago! 383 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,040 Next in 1967 you did "A Few Bullets More" directed by Julio Buchs. 384 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:48,040 Yes, I remember that I was friends with everyone, including the American star who died. 385 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,040 You mean the German Peter Lee Lawrence ... 386 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,040 Yes, Peter Lee Lawrence. I was a friend of his - he liked me very much. 387 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,040 I don't remember much else. It was like being at home amongst friends. 388 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,040 In 1967 you were in "Django Kill, If You Live Shoot!" directed by Giulio Questi 389 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,040 with Tomas Milian, Ray Lovelock, Roberto Camardiel, Peiro Lulli. 390 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:18,040 This was your third film with Milian in a year. Any memories of this surreal Western? 391 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:28,040 Well, this one was a film that consisted of actors with minor resentments, 392 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,040 but other than that it was a good film. 393 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:39,040 A film that I thought was well done, well directed. A film that I liked doing. 394 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,040 What were the conditions like working on this film? 395 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,040 Normal for me, because they all respected me because I was tough. I always was. 396 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,040 I knew my place, but I was tough. Most of the time everything worked out well for me. 397 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,040 In 1967 you did "Rattler Kid" directed by Leon Klimovsky. 398 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,040 The cast includes Richard Wyler and Brad Harris. 399 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040 You previously worked with Richard Wyler in "The Ugly Ones". 400 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,040 How was he to work with? 401 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Very good, very proper. The same - a good friend. 402 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:43,040 And what about the muscleman Brad Harris? Did he like doing Westerns after doing the Hercules Peplum films? 403 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:53,040 I don't think he was very much into the Western genre, but he did a good job acting in them. 404 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,000 And what about Leon Klimovsky? 405 00:42:56,240 --> 00:43:01,040 Leon Klimovsky was very sweet - he was a very sweet man. 406 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:35,040 Next is 1967's "God Forgives ... I Don't" by Giuseppe Colizzi. And in the cast, Terence Hill, Bud Spencer, Frank Wolff etc. 407 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:42,040 You're in the first scene after the massacre on the train. Do you remember this film? 408 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:11,040 "God Forgives ... I don't" - ah yes, let me see ... they called for me to have a big role in this film in Spain, 409 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:21,040 but it was a low budget film and I was doing an important film in Rome at the same time. 410 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,040 I don't remember which one, but it paid very well. 411 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,040 So I turned it down because I thought the film was going to be a minor film. 412 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:42,040 But it turned out well, and was a very acceptable film, almost good, but they needed to shoot more footage. 413 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,040 They knew I was in Rome doing the other film and knew it was coming to an end, 414 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,040 so I stayed five more days so I could play that character in the beginning of the film. 415 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,040 How was it working with Bud Spencer and Terence Hill? 416 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,040 Ah, very good, but I didn't work with Spencer. No? 417 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:16,040 No. That was the first film they did together. That's where it all began when they became a team. 418 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:23,040 I've worked with Terence Hill and he was very sweet. We got along marvelously. 419 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,040 I used to ride around in his car. I didn't know Bud. 420 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,040 What about the director Giuseppe Colizzi? 421 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,040 Good, very good. 422 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:44,040 And what do you remember about Frank Wolff? He commited suicide later on after doing the Westerns. 423 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:57,040 Well, I remember he was a very introverted man, but always a man that you could talk to. 424 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040 Very calm, but introverted. 425 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,040 I saw something was a bit off in him, but it didn't register. 426 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,040 Next in 1967 you were cast again with Sergio Sollima in "Face to Face" starring Tomas Milian and Gian Maria Volonte. 427 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Well, I don't do casting. They'd call and say they wanted Brana - period. 428 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,040 It's not like now where 200 people audition for one part. 429 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:34,040 This was the fourth film you made with Tomas Milian. Was he different in this film? 430 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:41,040 Because he was known for being difficult to work with. Very arrogant. 431 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,040 Tomas Milian had a lot of balls - he did not stand for any sort of mistreatment. 432 00:46:48,000 --> 00:47:00,040 I remember in "The Big Gundown" with Lee Van Cleef, that he had to fall face down into mud in a pig sty. 433 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:08,040 And there were pigs there where we were shooting. 434 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:14,040 He fell face first into the pig muck. He was very professional. 435 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,040 He was a man who really believed he was correct in the way he interpreted a scene and stood his ground to do it that way. 436 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,040 He would fight with anyone telling him to change it. 437 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,040 Like Gian Maria Volonte .... 438 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:37,040 Do you remember any incidents between Milian and Volonte? 439 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:47,040 Well, I know they barked at each other a little, like a 4pair of dogs, but nothing special. 440 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,040 And how was Sollima in this movie? 441 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:15,040 Sollima was like he always was - very sweet. It was like being at home with Sollima. 442 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,040 In 1968 you did "Ringo the Lone Rider" directed by Rafael Romero Marchent. 443 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,040 The cast included Peter Martell, Piero Lulli, Armando Calvo, Jose Jaspe. 444 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,040 Do you remember anything about this film and its cast? 445 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,040 Well, I remember that it was one of the many films where I had a good time. A very good time! 446 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,320 Frank Brana continued to make Euro Estern untill late in the 70th. 447 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:17,880 He pased away in the year 2012 in Madrid, at the age of 77. 47928

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