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Conscious Dreaming
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For as long as we've been
able to talk about our dreams,
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we've been fascinated by
them and try to understand them.
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Within us, we have
this inbuilt virtual reality.
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We don't have to make it up.
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We don't have to invent it.
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It's there already.
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Even though strange
and impossible things
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often happen in dreams,
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we usually realize it was a
dream only after waking up.
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Many people will have
experienced this at some point
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and realize it was a dream
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and then they will have
woken up straight away.
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However, it is possible to learn, to
become aware that you are dreaming
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and start controlling the events.
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These dreams are called lucid dreams
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and the experience is like
waking up in your dream.
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A lucid dream is
when you become
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aware of the fact that
you are the dreamer
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during the dream and you
can actually vocalize that
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to yourself intellectually.
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But the odd thing
about that is, it
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tends to go along
with both the feeling of,
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oh, now I am aware in my dream
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or I've woken up in my dream.
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And also it goes along
with a sense of
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control, that I can control my dream.
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It's much more than
a vivid dream 'cause
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we all know what
vivid dreams are like,
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but there's another element
and that is
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that you are fully aware
that you are in a dream.
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Everything's sort of solid.
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My God, this is a dream.
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It's an incredible situation.
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Lucid dreaming itself
as a form of mind training
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goes a bit deeper.
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That is using the canvas
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or the platform of
the lucid dream
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to gain insight and
access to levels of mind
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which in the waking state
are often inaccessible.
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- The only limit is your imagination.
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So whatever you can imagine
you can do, you can pretty much do.
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In order to find out
more about different
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techniques of becoming
a lucid dreamer
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and the challenges faced
along the way for beginners,
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three individuals have been
selected and given different methods
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of trying to achieve
their first lucid dream.
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To ensure that the results are accurate
representations of the techniques,
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each of the candidates were
chosen with a consistent demographic.
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The first candidate to pursue
their lucid dream is Melanie Hindle.
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- My name is Melanie and I'm 26 years old.
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I like to socialize, obviously,
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like most young people do.
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And I like to travel mainly.
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That's like my, probably one
of my main passions really.
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I've always been a keen traveler.
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- Melanie will be using
meditation as a way
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of becoming more
aware in her waking life
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and will soon be meeting
with a meditation teacher.
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Meditation is regarded
as one of the most effective
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and important methods
for inducing lucid dreaming.
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- Okay, so it was my friend Patricia
who first told me about lucid dreaming
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just a couple of years ago, I think.
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And I was a bit cynical
about it at first,
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but I did some reading into it
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and then I realized that it's
actually not as uncommon
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as I thought it was.
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So I took an interest in it from there.
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It would be amazing.
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It would be amazing
to be conscious
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in your dream and
to be able to control it
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the direction that you'd like it to go.
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When I was a student,
it was really impossible
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to talk about lucid dreaming
within a scientific context.
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People then would say, "Oh, well, it's just
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people are lying or they're
inventing it and it isn't really true."
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There's been generally
very little research
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for lucid dreaming because I
would say funding difficulties.
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Who's gonna fund a
study when we can't
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see a good solid
monetary outcome for it?
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It seems like the path
of lucid dreaming
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may follow a similar path
to that of clinical hypnosis.
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In that right now,
we've got a lot of
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neuroscientific evidence
around lucid dreaming,
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a lot of psychological evidence.
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Around the benefits of lucid dreaming.
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And yet still, there's no such thing
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as a registered
lucid dream therapist,
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but there could be.
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Lucid dreaming was
first scientifically verified
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in the early 70s
by Keith Hearn
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at Hull University in the UK.
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It occurs to me one
day, "Oh, wait a minute.
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This is called rapid eye movement sleep.
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Although there's this profound
paralysis, the eyes are not inhibited."
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So I set up an experiment
with a lucid dreamer,
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a frequent lucid dreamer in a sleep lab.
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I'd previously told the
subject before sleep,
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"Look, when you become
aware you're dreaming,
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I want you to make some
regular left-right eye movements."
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These had come out in the chart record.
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I watched with great interest,
and then suddenly
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a sequence of signals,
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left-right eye movements,
and there they were.
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Absolutely amazing.
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Consider the philosophy of this.
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There's the subject, unconscious,
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in his own sort
of parallel universe
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of dreams, and yet
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knowing that,
"Oh, I've got to
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signal to that other
universe in which I am."
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And it was like getting
signals from another planet.
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It was utterly staggering.
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- Amy Thompson will be the second
individual to attempt lucid dreaming
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over the course of the coming months.
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She will be focusing on using the
traditional lucid dreaming techniques,
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such as reality testing and
wake-back-to-bed methods.
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- I've lived in my wee village, Banton,
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for all my life now.
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I've grown up there,
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and I've had horses
for all my life as well.
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I started maybe when
I was about eight.
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It's a good hobby to get into,
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although it is an expensive one.
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I've never heard about
lucid dreaming before.
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Before, obviously I'd understood
about all the different things you can do
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and how you can
control your dreams
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and be able to see and touch
and do what you want.
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That was one of the first
reasons I got interested into it.
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In a few weeks, Amy will be
meeting with Carolyn McCready,
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a lucid dreaming teacher
who will go through
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the techniques of
inducing lucid dreaming
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and help Amy in practicing the
techniques which suit her best.
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- I think it'd be very exciting to hear
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from an expert's point of
view what lucid dreaming is.
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I'm really excited to hear about her dreams
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and her stories and about
all the different people
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she's met, and I'm
really confident that
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maybe not straight afterwards
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I'll have a lucid dream,
but hopefully
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if I just keep working
on it, then I will
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I will experience my first one.
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Can anybody learn to lucid dream?
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Yes, in my experience.
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I mean, I haven't been teaching
long, like four or five years,
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but I'm yet to find
somebody who can't do it.
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There is no equipment you
need to buy to lucid dream.
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Whether you sleep in a gutter or a palace,
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you can lucid dream.
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Don't have to be Buddhist
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Don't have to be atheist
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Don't have to be Christian
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Don't have to be anything
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All you have to be
is asleep.
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I think some people are
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maybe more naturally
adapted to it than others.
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Like a language or,
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you know, some people are
better at math than others.
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It's that kind of thing, but
I think everyone can do it.
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Some people get lucid the first night
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after coming to like a half
hour talk at a music festival.
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One dude, it took him like a year,
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and he was coming to everything.
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He was coming to like every
talk, every workshop,
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every retreat, and I was like
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wanting to give him
his money back.
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I was like, "Oh, sorry, dude."
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But eventually even he had
his lucid dream.
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So everyone can learn how to do it.
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- The third and final person
to take part is Katie Riley,
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who will be using modern technology,
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which is designed to help
her in lucid dreaming practice.
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- My name's Katie Riley.
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I'm 20 years old, and I'm
from the Scottish Borders.
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From a young age, I
wanted to be in theater.
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I enjoyed, well, dancing mostly first,
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and then I got into singing
when I was at school.
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I played piano from a young age as well.
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I haven't heard of lucid dreaming.
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I mean, I might've
heard of it, but it's
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definitely nothing
I've ever known about
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or looked into at all.
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I think things like
that would sometimes,
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I wouldn't believe
in stuff like that,
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but actually looking into it, it's made
me more interested about actually
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what you can do and what can happen.
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Recently, lucid dreaming technology
has become more accessible
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thanks to the rapid
increase in iPhone apps
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and more affordable
lucid dreaming masks.
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Katie will be testing
both the iPhone apps
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and a mask to see if
these new waveforms
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of inducing lucid dreaming are beneficial.
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Before each of the candidates
pursue their individual methods,
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Melanie, Amy, and Katie
have arranged to meet
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in order to discuss what
they would like to gain
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from the experience
if they were successful
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in achieving a lucid dream.
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That's exactly what I was gonna say.
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I'm terrified of heights though.
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But because if you're lucid dreaming,
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you'll be able to get over that fear
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because you won't be scared
be cause you'll be like,
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ah, I know I'm dreaming,
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and so I'm not gonna be scared of that.
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I think that would be
the best thing as well.
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I think interest and things like that,
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like magic stuff like flying
and everything like that.
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Yeah, I want to solve
problems definitely
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in my day-to-day
life 'cause again,
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I read in a book that
you can ask questions.
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So once you realize you're dreaming,
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you can go, well, what am I
gonna do about this situation?
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Because I think my
subconscious would
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definitely have
something to say about it.
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Which one of you do you think
would be the most likely one to get one?
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I think Mel. I think Mel.
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Yeah. I think Mel.
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It feels wonderfully
free to be in a lucid dream.
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Here I am in this amazing world
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that's all kind of strange
and dreamlike
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that I can change, flow
through, manipulate.
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It's a lovely, free feeling.
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Normally, when a person
becomes lucid,
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they do so because they notice
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some incredible incongruity
in the dream.
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Like you see someone who's dead.
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You're like, wait a
minute, this is so weird.
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This is all fake.
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Everything seems solid, but paradoxically,
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you can push your hand
through a wall,
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a door, anything.
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The best way I can
describe it is probably
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from a film that
I've seen recently.
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It was the race of the Planet of the Apes.
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When the apes were sort of in
the cages and someone
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gave them this chemical.
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In the morning, they woke up.
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They looked at the hands.
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They looked at each other
and they're like, oh my God,
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I know that this is me
and I'm aware of myself.
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And this is almost how it
feels in the lucid dream.
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It's an amazing thing.
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But beyond that is so much
more as well.
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I mean, consciousness is something
that modern science can't explain.
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And this is a firsthand way
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to kind of explore your own consciousness
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and maybe the greater
consciousness as well.
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In my first lucid dream,
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I was walking along
a beach.
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It was just an ordinary, vivid dream.
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It seemed to be the south of France.
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Everything was perfect.
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Then I suddenly saw
some coins on the
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beach and it seemed
to be like a gold coin,
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about that big.
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So wait a minute, this is a dream.
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This is a lucid dream.
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Now, for purely scientific purposes,
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I decided to conjure up a young lady.
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So I could talk to her.
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So I looked down and
I looked up again.
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It had worked because there's
this woman walking towards me.
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Anyway, she came up to me and
she said, hello, my name is Jane.
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But you know, a
couple of weeks later, I
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actually met that girl
and her name was Jane.
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I went out with her a
couple of years or so.
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So today I'm meeting
with Caroline McKinney
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who is a lucid dream expert.
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Very excited, but I'm
kind of nervous as well.
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So thank you very much
for seeing me today, Caroline.
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Now for my talk.
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So what I wanted to speak to yourself about
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was lucid dreaming.
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So if you were to get into
lucid dreaming as a beginner,
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what kind of techniques
would you start off using?
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So the most important thing,
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number one thing is a
dream journal.
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And a lot of people
start their dream journal
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and then after a
couple of weeks,
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they get bored of writing
down all their dreams.
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But that's when people
really stop having lucid dreams
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is when they let the dream journal slide.
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So I can't emphasize
enough, it's really,
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really important to
have a dream journal.
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One thing you can do
is reality tests
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or state tests.
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And that's things that are kind
of checking your state of reality.
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We are unlikely to recognize
the dream as a dream
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because we don't question
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this waking reality very much.
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We just go along like we
know exactly what's happening.
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Most often people
would look at their hands
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and they would just check,
am I dreaming right now?
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And sometimes you can,
for example, pull your finger.
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The idea is that if
you do this
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several times during the
day you create a habit.
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So in your dream, suddenly
you ask yourself,
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oh, am I dreaming right now?
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And your finger goes
longer and you realize,
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oh my God, I'm actually dreaming right now.
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Another technique
which I particularly like
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is to write a "C" on your
hand for consciousness,
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but it doesn't matter
what you write.
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All day long, you look at this thing
written on your hand
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again and again
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and whenever you see it,
you say, am I conscious now?
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And you keep on doing that all day.
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And with any luck, then
you'll do it in a dream.
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And if you do that first
thing when you wake up,
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then quite often you will
find you wake up
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into a false awakening and
you can come loose that way.
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So it's a really good habit to have
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to do some kind of reality
check as soon as you wake up.
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A false awakening is where
you dream that you're woken up
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and you are absolutely
convinced you are awake.
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It's your bedroom, it's all there.
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Everything is as it is.
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But you might then
go to the bathroom,
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cleaning your teeth,
pull the curtains,
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and it's not your road outside.
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So then you go, ah, and the
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shock usually will then wake you up.
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But you can get repeated false awakenings.
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I once spoke to a woman
when she was at school.
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She dreamed that she
thought she'd woken up.
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You went down for breakfast,
but then she woke up.
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She got on a bus to go to school.
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The bell went in school, then she woke up.
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This happened half a dozen times.
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Now this is the ultimate nightmare
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because she said to this day,
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"I do not know whether
I'm awake or dreaming.".
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That's pretty nightmarish.
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Carolyn MacReady
is one in a growing
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number of lucid dreaming
teachers in the UK
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who hold a monthly
lucid dream group
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where people can come
to share their dreams
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and gain advice on their practice.
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Amy joined the group
for a session in London.
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I've actually had a couple of dreams
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where I've been interacting
with someone in my life
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that I've been having some problems with.
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And I was like, I'm in New York.
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I want to go to my sister's flat.
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And I went into her flat
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and I was like,
I want to write her a note.
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And I was like, I've got to pin it up
somewhere where she's going to see it.
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I literally did that and I
wrote this note just saying,
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I really want us to be more
in touch with each other
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and things like that, things I want to say.
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And I pinned it up in her flat.
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And then I came out of it
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and I woke up and
I was like,
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yeah, she's gotten
that note.
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It was just this feeling
of this connection.
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We should move on to Amy.
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What would you like to
either share or ask?
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I do feel like I do have weird dreams.
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Job that I currently work at just
now, I've been working as a barmaid.
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Usually after that,
when I go back
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to my bed, I wake up
kind of, and I feel like,
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it's not as if I wake up, I
feel like I'm still dreaming.
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Do you actually get
out of bed at any point?
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You do, yeah, 'cause I
had this with something I did.
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Now I get out of bed
and look for somebody
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and then realise, oh
no, they're not here
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and go to bed.
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Yeah, that's usually, eventually
comes to that point.
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But for ages, I'm fighting to part with it.
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It's just something where I had a
responsibility and sometimes I can't.
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Today, I'm hoping to just
learn more tips
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because I know that
meditation is one of
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the ways to help you
have a lucid dream.
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I think that's gonna be really
good to learn how to do that properly
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because I've always liked
the idea of meditation,
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but I've just never
really known how to do it.
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I've never really got into it.
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I've never given it the time of day.
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Well, I've been practicing meditation
probably about 17 years now.
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I'm quite a lucid dreamer.
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I dream every night and
I remember my dreams.
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When I teach, I always
start with showing people
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how to relax their body.
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But we do it seated.
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We don't do it lying down
for the obvious reason
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that if you're lying
down, you will go to sleep.
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And really, teaching you
things that aren't
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you relying on a teacher,
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but more that you can take
into your normal daily life.
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So we'll do a bit of body relaxation first.
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So like I said, you'll have to be seated.
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So I need you to turn so that
you're actually side onto me
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and you're gonna need that
cushion underneath your feet.
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All right.
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And then I'll ask you to
close your eyes.
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And then we'll start with the breath.
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Because the breath is the
anchor in any meditation.
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Just noticing as you
breathe in and out,
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the air coming in and out,
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whether you're breathing
in and out of your nose.
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Or breathing in your mouth.
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I think the key to lucid dreaming
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is meditation in essence.
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Meditation is something
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that we in the Western world
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have our own misguided view of.
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It's not what people think it is.
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That is to say, it's not learning
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how to think
and think deeply.
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It's the exact opposite.
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It's learning not to think.
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Some people can
go a whole day
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and the whole day almost
goes by like a dream.
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You know, they're doing the same job.
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They're taking the same commute
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and they don't really live that
day in the present moment.
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It's very interesting
that people who meditate.
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Say they have lucid dreams more often.
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And this is not just an anecdotal thing.
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There is actually evidence that
increasing meditation
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increases lucid dream.
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And you can open your eyes
when you feel you want to.
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Have a stop.
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Have a wee drink of water.
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Oh my God.
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- You okay?
- Yeah.
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- Whoa.
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That was amazing.
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Today, Katie is
researching information
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about the different
lucid dreaming devices
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which are available to the public.
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- Yeah, so for the
past few days, I've been
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looking at apps to do
with lucid dreaming.
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One is called DreamOn.
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DreamOn is a very straightforward idea.
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It's an app that aims to
influence your dreams.
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So before you go to bed,
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you indicate what time
you'd like to wake up
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and also what kind of
dream you'd like to have.
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Put the iPhone next to you on the bed.
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It starts to monitor your movement.
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When you are very still, it's an
indication that you're dreaming
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and it will quietly play in a soundscape
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that matches the sorts of
dreams you want to have.
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And the theory is that it
influences your dreams.
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Once they have this idea of
their dream being influenced,
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some of those dreams become lucid,
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that they start to be able
to take control of the dream.
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Also, I've been looking at
the Remy mask device as well,
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which I'm going to
use to try and see
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what happens when
I put it on at night.
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There are a lot of
kind of electronic devices
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that help you lucid dream
and iPhone apps
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and HemiSync CDs and
all these kinds of things.
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They're cool
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and they can help you
lucid dream.
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That's great, but I think they should
be viewed as stabilizers on a bike.
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You know, use them until you
know how to cycle on your own
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and then you can remove the stabilizers.
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One of the weird things
about lucid dreams
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is if you read about them or
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hear about them or go to
a lecture about them,
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it tends to make you have them more often.
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We met Caroline and
basically she was just going over
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what lucid dreaming is and why she does it.
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At first I did think, is this
for just certain people?
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Can everyone do it?
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After speaking to her, that
did give me the confidence
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and the excitement to try this.
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So when I had the one-to-one
meditation session,
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it just taught me
the sort of basics that
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beginners need to
know for meditation.
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I wouldn't say I was
cynical before I went,
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but it's definitely
made me realize
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why people do meditation.
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It's really, really helpful.
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I'm 99% at the moment that I'll have one.
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Is that too high?
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Tonight when I go to
bed, I will put it on,
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and flick the switch
and see what happens.
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I think the motivation
and the intention,
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it's a huge part
of lucid dreaming.
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Because once you really understand
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what benefits you can
get from lucid dreaming,
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then you're sending your
unconscious a message
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that this is your intention
and you really wanna do it.
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Lucid dreams have an
enormous potential for everyone.
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We spend a third of our
lives in that space asleep.
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So we're active anyway, you're
not resting during dreaming.
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So we might as
well make use of that
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non-rest time so you
could use lucid dreaming
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to just sustain egoistic fantasy,
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to engage in like
hedonistic sexual orgies
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like I used to do
when I was a teenager.
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We also can help
people who are
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00:22:46,550 --> 00:22:51,071
incarcerated, but if
they can at least escape,
497
00:22:51,856 --> 00:22:53,673
almost literally in
their dreams because
498
00:22:53,685 --> 00:22:56,843
they can be anywhere
doing anything.
499
00:22:57,616 --> 00:22:59,000
People who are paralyzed.
500
00:22:59,323 --> 00:23:01,458
Robert Wagner mentions
a guy who,
501
00:23:01,483 --> 00:23:04,710
within a dream said, "Show me the
most amazing painting "I can paint."
502
00:23:05,116 --> 00:23:09,000
And he saw this amazing
painting, all fully formed.
503
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:13,000
And he painted that
painting exactly as he saw it.
504
00:23:13,263 --> 00:23:16,770
And as he was painting it, he said it
was as though he'd painted it before.
505
00:23:16,795 --> 00:23:19,188
If you can cure
yourself of a phobia
506
00:23:19,213 --> 00:23:21,807
in a lucid dream, if
you can face a fear,
507
00:23:21,881 --> 00:23:23,880
if you can engage a past trauma
508
00:23:23,905 --> 00:23:25,904
which you were too scared
to engage in the waking state,
509
00:23:26,001 --> 00:23:28,670
if you can do that in the
lucid dream, you'll wake up
510
00:23:28,695 --> 00:23:30,856
and your waking state
will be very different.
511
00:23:31,210 --> 00:23:33,135
You get on the tube,
you see the miserable
512
00:23:33,147 --> 00:23:35,000
looking people
that are sitting there,
513
00:23:35,001 --> 00:23:39,000
but an hour beforehand, they'd all
been flying over the Grand Canyon.
514
00:23:39,001 --> 00:23:41,000
They'd all look rather good, you know?
515
00:23:41,001 --> 00:23:45,000
Because a good dream
can really make your day.
516
00:23:45,001 --> 00:23:48,405
Yeah, people are often worried
that if you do loads of lucid dreaming,
517
00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:52,000
you're gonna get like really
ungrounded, really floaty, hippy, like,
518
00:23:52,001 --> 00:23:53,000
"Oh, where's the dream?
519
00:23:53,001 --> 00:23:54,000
"Where's reality?
520
00:23:54,001 --> 00:23:54,638
"Am I alive?"
521
00:23:54,663 --> 00:23:56,000
It's like rubbish.
522
00:23:56,001 --> 00:23:57,790
The opposite happens.
523
00:23:57,815 --> 00:24:00,976
You know, the unconscious mind
is very happy for us to be lucid.
524
00:24:01,001 --> 00:24:03,000
It wants us there, saying, "Yeah, come on.
525
00:24:03,001 --> 00:24:04,100
"Be conscious.
526
00:24:04,125 --> 00:24:06,638
"Let, you know, listen to
what I've been trying to tell you
527
00:24:06,663 --> 00:24:08,463
"every single night of your life.".
528
00:24:15,234 --> 00:24:18,536
3 Months Later
529
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,796
Because I've kept track
with a dream diary now,
530
00:24:24,821 --> 00:24:27,570
which I never have before,
I've definitely started to realise
531
00:24:27,595 --> 00:24:31,736
that whatever's going on in your
life is reflected in your dreams.
532
00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:33,351
- I've seen a difference in my life.
533
00:24:33,376 --> 00:24:34,756
Like, over the last few months,
534
00:24:34,781 --> 00:24:37,531
I've become more
confident to try new things
535
00:24:37,974 --> 00:24:39,973
and not care about what anyone else thinks.
536
00:24:40,256 --> 00:24:44,236
I used to wake myself up during
the night and believe I was still at work.
537
00:24:44,474 --> 00:24:46,183
But after doing this experiment,
538
00:24:46,350 --> 00:24:48,210
it's actually taken that away.
539
00:24:49,550 --> 00:24:51,923
I do tend to meditate a lot more.
540
00:24:51,948 --> 00:24:53,948
Like, even if I'm like on
the bus on the way home,
541
00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:55,640
sometimes I just
sit there and look out
542
00:24:55,652 --> 00:24:57,101
the window and try
and clear my mind.
543
00:24:57,126 --> 00:24:58,917
That's been really beneficial, like
544
00:24:59,401 --> 00:25:00,976
learning how to do that.
545
00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:03,290
So, unfortunately, I
don't think I've actually
546
00:25:03,403 --> 00:25:05,970
managed to have a lucid dream yet.
547
00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:09,556
I think I've had something
similar to a lucid dream.
548
00:25:09,821 --> 00:25:12,690
The weird thing is I've always, every
time I've been dreaming and I wake up
549
00:25:12,715 --> 00:25:16,603
and I think I forgot to do the test,
but that one time I remembered to do it
550
00:25:16,860 --> 00:25:19,110
and I remember my finger
went through my hand
551
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:22,000
and then I tried my finger
and my finger went dead long.
552
00:25:22,001 --> 00:25:24,000
Like, I knew I was dreaming,
553
00:25:24,593 --> 00:25:25,976
but the dream was of a
lucid dream.
554
00:25:26,001 --> 00:25:30,000
It's really hard to explain, but I do
think it has opened up a wee doorway.
555
00:25:30,450 --> 00:25:33,000
So, basically, I thought
I'd had a lucid dream
556
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,000
not long ago and I woke up
and I was really excited about it.
557
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:40,000
So I did some research online, but
it turned out that what had happened
558
00:25:40,001 --> 00:25:42,000
was actually called sleep paralysis,
559
00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:45,516
which is a good sign
because that can help you
560
00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:48,976
it can develop into
a lucid dream.
561
00:25:49,001 --> 00:25:52,000
So, shortly after, it can't
have even been a week past,
562
00:25:52,150 --> 00:25:55,323
the same thing happened
and I had this sleep paralysis.
563
00:25:55,568 --> 00:25:58,516
But because I'd researched
it and understood what it was,
564
00:25:59,303 --> 00:26:04,000
I managed to develop that
into a lucid dream there and then
565
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:08,270
because I was telling myself,
you're not awake, this isn't happening.
566
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,389
Once I realised,
actually, you're just
567
00:26:10,401 --> 00:26:12,663
dreaming and you're
aware that you're dreaming,
568
00:26:12,688 --> 00:26:14,687
that's how it developed
into the lucid dream.
569
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,804
In my lucid dream, I
ended up flying and
570
00:26:18,816 --> 00:26:21,016
that was amazing
because that's exactly
571
00:26:21,041 --> 00:26:22,041
what I wanted to do.
572
00:26:23,813 --> 00:26:24,813
I flew, man.
573
00:26:29,716 --> 00:26:31,863
What do you guys think
about the idea that this world
574
00:26:31,888 --> 00:26:34,790
where we are just now is some
kind of a dream or an illusion?
575
00:26:35,390 --> 00:26:38,850
I don't believe that our life is all
just a dream, I don't believe that.
576
00:26:39,001 --> 00:26:40,471
I still want to think about it.
577
00:26:40,496 --> 00:26:43,263
Are we all sleeping just
now in another body?
578
00:26:44,109 --> 00:26:46,075
But you might just wake
up and this is a dream.
579
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,570
And then you're like,
"Oh, I dreamt last
580
00:26:47,582 --> 00:26:49,101
night "that we were
at that coffee shop."
581
00:26:49,125 --> 00:26:51,486
I don't think life is
a dream because
582
00:26:51,498 --> 00:26:53,636
I dream and I don't
want to believe it.
583
00:26:54,663 --> 00:26:57,643
Man, I don't know,
now I'm totally confused.
584
00:26:58,343 --> 00:27:00,856
It's a very human thing
to just basically accept
585
00:27:00,881 --> 00:27:03,318
what's in front of your eyes
and believe what you hear.
586
00:27:03,343 --> 00:27:05,310
Some people would say,
"Well, it's all an illusion."
587
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:08,000
Coming from the lucid
dreaming where everything
588
00:27:08,323 --> 00:27:13,336
seems to be as solid,
as tangible, as real,
589
00:27:14,063 --> 00:27:15,597
I believe it's all a dream.
590
00:27:15,850 --> 00:27:19,391
I agree with that, that's
definitely what I've experienced,
591
00:27:19,743 --> 00:27:25,000
that this is a dream and there's
something bigger than us dreaming us.
592
00:27:25,150 --> 00:27:29,000
Actually, you can't really
say everything is a dream.
593
00:27:29,350 --> 00:27:32,000
It's like saying everything is black,
594
00:27:32,550 --> 00:27:34,538
then you must compare
it to something else,
595
00:27:34,563 --> 00:27:36,490
which is not a dream,
what would that be?
596
00:27:36,783 --> 00:27:39,245
So you can never know for certain,
597
00:27:39,270 --> 00:27:40,836
there's always that
philosophical argument
598
00:27:40,861 --> 00:27:42,976
that everything is
a dream, and so on.
599
00:27:43,001 --> 00:27:45,000
In conclusion, what I would say is.
600
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:49,000
The only way you would ever
know that you're dreaming
601
00:27:49,001 --> 00:27:50,730
was if you were awake in a dream.
602
00:27:50,834 --> 00:27:54,750
Likewise, right now, this experience,
you'll only ever understand what it is
603
00:27:54,775 --> 00:27:56,774
when you're awake in this experience.
604
00:27:57,150 --> 00:28:01,756
In essence, there's
only the waking up to do.
605
00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:03,780
And once you're awake, you'll know.
606
00:28:06,350 --> 00:28:08,000
You'll know.
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