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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,425 --> 00:00:04,405 BEN HANSON: For the past 50 years, 2 00:00:04,425 --> 00:00:08,345 there's been evidence of highly advanced technology in our skies, 3 00:00:08,365 --> 00:00:12,205 baffling Navy Top Gun and military helicopter pilots alike. 4 00:00:12,225 --> 00:00:13,385 OK, you're in. 5 00:00:13,405 --> 00:00:16,185 These massive TicTac-shaped objects 6 00:00:16,205 --> 00:00:20,205 appear to move at warp speeds, defying the laws of physics. 7 00:00:20,225 --> 00:00:22,465 This object was going 24,000 miles an hour. 8 00:00:22,485 --> 00:00:25,105 Something came in moving very fast and almost hit us 9 00:00:25,125 --> 00:00:27,305 and I have no idea what it was. 10 00:00:28,505 --> 00:00:32,185 Could these UFOs be the proof that we are not alone? 11 00:00:32,205 --> 00:00:35,445 'Cause it really --- happened. You think I'm lying? 12 00:00:35,465 --> 00:00:37,585 And if so, what do they want? 13 00:00:38,105 --> 00:00:41,485 Do you think we're prepared to meet with such superior technology? 14 00:00:41,505 --> 00:00:43,525 Unequivocally, no. 15 00:00:48,445 --> 00:00:50,525 I'm Ben Hanson, former Federal Agent. 16 00:00:50,545 --> 00:00:54,185 My grandfather worked at a highly classified air force base 17 00:00:54,205 --> 00:00:57,165 and convinced me we are not alone in the universe. 18 00:00:57,185 --> 00:01:00,505 Then I had my own encounter that changed my life forever. 19 00:01:00,525 --> 00:01:03,125 Welcome to UFO country. 20 00:01:03,145 --> 00:01:05,165 Now I've gained access 21 00:01:05,185 --> 00:01:07,245 to a Top Secret archive from Project Blue Book... 22 00:01:07,265 --> 00:01:11,365 This planet has been under surveillance for centuries. 23 00:01:12,585 --> 00:01:15,525 ...containing reports of over 10,000 UFO sightings 24 00:01:15,545 --> 00:01:18,145 investigated by the US Government. 25 00:01:18,165 --> 00:01:19,525 We could very well be standing 26 00:01:19,545 --> 00:01:22,425 on an exact place where the UFO crashed. 27 00:01:22,445 --> 00:01:25,585 My mission is to uncover the truth. 28 00:01:41,485 --> 00:01:44,205 I'm on my way to meet Kevin Day 29 00:01:44,225 --> 00:01:46,525 who is a former chief radar officer for the Navy. 30 00:01:46,545 --> 00:01:50,105 Years ago Kevin was stationed off the coast of California 31 00:01:50,125 --> 00:01:52,445 and he actually had a front row seat 32 00:01:52,465 --> 00:01:56,105 to one of the biggest UFO sightings in the 21st century, 33 00:01:56,125 --> 00:01:57,545 the Nimitz Video. 34 00:02:04,145 --> 00:02:07,145 In 2004, the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier 35 00:02:07,165 --> 00:02:10,365 was on a combat training mission off the coast of San Diego 36 00:02:10,385 --> 00:02:12,565 when officer Kevin Day had an encounter 37 00:02:12,585 --> 00:02:15,325 with an unidentified flying object. 38 00:02:24,105 --> 00:02:26,505 The cylindrical object in the shape of a TicTac 39 00:02:26,525 --> 00:02:30,525 covered somewhere between 15 and 24,000 feet in mid air 40 00:02:30,545 --> 00:02:34,105 and then suddenly darted off. 41 00:02:34,445 --> 00:02:36,345 13 years later, 42 00:02:36,365 --> 00:02:39,205 video of the encounter was leaked to the New York Times. 43 00:02:39,225 --> 00:02:42,425 The video is considered the gold standard of UFO encounters 44 00:02:42,445 --> 00:02:46,585 and to this day, analysts have been unable to identify the craft. 45 00:02:47,105 --> 00:02:50,365 There's simply no denying that this was a UFO. 46 00:02:51,365 --> 00:02:54,545 Kevin Day was the radar operator on the Nimitz that day. 47 00:02:54,565 --> 00:02:59,305 Since leaving the Navy, he's been warned not to discuss what he saw 48 00:02:59,325 --> 00:03:03,165 but he's agreed to meet with Ben, no matter the risk. 49 00:03:04,545 --> 00:03:06,245 Been waiting a long time to meet you. 50 00:03:07,585 --> 00:03:11,385 I have some very specific questions I'd like to take some notes on 51 00:03:11,405 --> 00:03:13,525 if you don't mind, but why don't we start out first of all... 52 00:03:13,545 --> 00:03:16,345 Could you take me back to that day? 53 00:03:16,365 --> 00:03:19,185 Tell me, what was it like through your eyes. 54 00:03:22,465 --> 00:03:24,305 In the morning of the 14th, 55 00:03:24,325 --> 00:03:26,325 we had planned to do a major air defence exercise 56 00:03:26,345 --> 00:03:30,265 so we were off the coast about 90 miles off San Diego that day. 57 00:03:32,585 --> 00:03:36,185 I was up on watch. I was anti-air warfare coordinator. 58 00:03:36,205 --> 00:03:38,585 I'm the actual guy that makes the identifications. 59 00:03:39,105 --> 00:03:42,345 My whole job is to identify stuff that flies. 60 00:03:42,365 --> 00:03:43,425 OK. 61 00:03:46,425 --> 00:03:50,245 And I notice these really strange contacts off Catalina Island. 62 00:03:53,165 --> 00:03:56,125 They were at 28,000 feet in a real loose formation 63 00:03:56,145 --> 00:03:58,365 and they were tracking south at 100 knots. 64 00:04:01,525 --> 00:04:03,485 Interesting. I'm a pilot... 65 00:04:03,505 --> 00:04:05,465 You could see why you're like, 66 00:04:05,485 --> 00:04:08,525 "Whoa, what's something that slow doing this high up?" 67 00:04:08,545 --> 00:04:11,345 I had never seen anything fly like that before. 68 00:04:13,545 --> 00:04:16,245 Immediately we're thinking "Hey, are these things real?" 69 00:04:16,265 --> 00:04:18,465 This seems a type of glitch. 70 00:04:18,485 --> 00:04:20,325 So we ran a bunch of diagnostic tests 71 00:04:20,345 --> 00:04:22,465 and we brought all our systems back up and the contacts were... 72 00:04:22,485 --> 00:04:25,205 They were stronger now. 73 00:04:25,225 --> 00:04:27,485 The object seemed to ping-pong through the sky, 74 00:04:27,505 --> 00:04:32,305 changing speed and directions in ways that defy the laws of physics. 75 00:04:32,325 --> 00:04:34,445 That's when I became concerned about these things. 76 00:04:34,465 --> 00:04:38,365 I strongly recommended we take on the aircraft 77 00:04:38,385 --> 00:04:41,105 that just launched off the Nimitz and go intercept one 78 00:04:41,125 --> 00:04:42,385 and see what it is. 79 00:04:43,485 --> 00:04:45,465 The commander happened to be airborne. 80 00:04:45,485 --> 00:04:48,425 He was one of the first to launch off the Nimitz. 81 00:04:48,445 --> 00:04:51,285 One of the best pilots the Navy's probably ever produced. 82 00:04:52,525 --> 00:04:55,225 So I said "Hey, let's intercept one of these things." 83 00:04:55,245 --> 00:04:56,425 As soon as that happened, he's like, 84 00:04:56,445 --> 00:04:59,325 "Oh my God, oh, my God, I'm engaged, I'm engaged." 85 00:05:03,485 --> 00:05:06,145 Pilots describe the object 86 00:05:06,165 --> 00:05:08,525 as a white, 40-foot-long TicTac-shaped craft. 87 00:05:10,545 --> 00:05:13,205 That object dropped from 28,000 feet 88 00:05:13,225 --> 00:05:17,225 down to the surface of the water in less than a second. 89 00:05:18,225 --> 00:05:20,125 He's like, "I'm gonna go check this out, right." 90 00:05:20,145 --> 00:05:21,445 So he leaves his wing man up high 91 00:05:21,465 --> 00:05:23,565 and he follows it down to the surface 92 00:05:23,585 --> 00:05:25,285 and this thing recognises him. 93 00:05:32,525 --> 00:05:35,105 And next thing you know, phew, this thing's gone. 94 00:05:42,505 --> 00:05:44,145 Wow. Yeah. 95 00:05:44,165 --> 00:05:47,185 And it was one of the most humbling moments of my life. 96 00:05:47,205 --> 00:05:49,505 We were a highly trained group of people on that ship. 97 00:05:49,525 --> 00:05:51,585 Years of experience. 98 00:05:52,105 --> 00:05:55,105 And these objects totally kicked out ---. 99 00:05:55,125 --> 00:05:59,385 If they had been hostile, there was nothing I could have done. 100 00:05:59,405 --> 00:06:01,365 Do you think they were curious 101 00:06:01,385 --> 00:06:03,485 about what you guys were doing out there? 102 00:06:03,505 --> 00:06:06,265 I'm gonna speculate here, Ben, 'cause I don't know 103 00:06:06,285 --> 00:06:09,385 but I think they've been here for a long, long time. 104 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:14,285 And I'm gonna speculate even a little bit farther, 105 00:06:14,305 --> 00:06:17,265 I think that technology upgrade that our ship had received, 106 00:06:17,285 --> 00:06:22,145 I think it gave us the ability to suddenly see these things. 107 00:06:23,565 --> 00:06:26,185 So I actually have the video right here. 108 00:06:28,565 --> 00:06:31,145 Alright, so here's the video. 109 00:06:40,325 --> 00:06:44,565 OK, so he's following this and his altitude is level. 110 00:06:50,445 --> 00:06:52,585 And there it goes. There it goes. 111 00:06:53,105 --> 00:06:55,325 Just zips off. Yeah. Imagine it. 112 00:06:55,345 --> 00:06:58,225 Star Trek, huh. When it just like, chew! 113 00:07:00,405 --> 00:07:04,305 So based on what you were seeing on your radar scope, the video... 114 00:07:04,325 --> 00:07:06,485 Do we have an estimate of how fast this was going? 115 00:07:06,505 --> 00:07:08,425 They crunched the numbers on that 116 00:07:08,445 --> 00:07:10,365 and it turns out this object, whatever it was, 117 00:07:10,385 --> 00:07:14,445 was going a really in excess of 24,000 miles an hour. 118 00:07:16,525 --> 00:07:19,565 24,0000 miles an hour? Yeah. 119 00:07:19,585 --> 00:07:23,565 And the G-Forces, the gravities, 13, 15 G-forces. 120 00:07:23,585 --> 00:07:28,325 A human can withstand maybe nine without special gear and stuff. 121 00:07:28,345 --> 00:07:30,325 The aircraft itself can survive 122 00:07:30,345 --> 00:07:33,305 maybe 15, 14, 15 G before it flies apart. 123 00:07:36,105 --> 00:07:37,385 Was your audio traffic... 124 00:07:37,405 --> 00:07:40,145 all that you recorded during that, ever recovered? 125 00:07:40,165 --> 00:07:43,425 Was that ever found? People came on board the ship. 126 00:07:45,205 --> 00:07:47,185 Was looking like air force officers. 127 00:07:48,365 --> 00:07:50,525 They had top secret clearances. 128 00:07:53,265 --> 00:07:55,365 These guys collected a bunch of stuff. 129 00:08:03,305 --> 00:08:04,385 We have a system there 130 00:08:04,405 --> 00:08:08,505 that records all your external communications on an optical disk. 131 00:08:08,525 --> 00:08:11,305 Man, those comms were taken. 132 00:08:11,325 --> 00:08:14,345 All the actual voice data was taken. 133 00:08:14,365 --> 00:08:16,485 All your audio from your radio traffic is gone? 134 00:08:16,505 --> 00:08:18,345 Yes. 135 00:08:18,365 --> 00:08:20,565 And ditto for the radar. 136 00:08:25,545 --> 00:08:28,405 And then they got back on the helicopter and left. 137 00:08:28,425 --> 00:08:30,565 Where did they go? I don't know. 138 00:08:30,585 --> 00:08:35,285 That's what happened. It really --- happened. 139 00:08:35,305 --> 00:08:38,385 You think I'm lying? I mean, really? 140 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:41,345 No. I'm not. 141 00:08:43,505 --> 00:08:48,125 Was there any follow up officially? Like after the incident happens. 142 00:08:48,145 --> 00:08:50,125 No one came to talk to you about it. 143 00:08:50,145 --> 00:08:51,485 No, that's what bugs me so much about this. 144 00:08:51,505 --> 00:08:54,585 I tried to talk to the captain about it who seemed... 145 00:08:55,105 --> 00:08:56,325 disinterested. 146 00:08:56,345 --> 00:08:59,145 And trying to talk to the people in my office about it. 147 00:08:59,165 --> 00:09:01,565 No one wanted to hear it. And to this day it disturbs me 148 00:09:01,585 --> 00:09:04,425 because, what do you mean, you're not curious about it? 149 00:09:04,445 --> 00:09:07,465 These things are there. They're right in our air space 150 00:09:07,485 --> 00:09:11,445 and there's definitely concerns for safety of flight. 151 00:09:11,465 --> 00:09:15,405 But that's not the only thing that disturbed Kevin Day. 152 00:09:15,425 --> 00:09:18,525 After the incident, Kevin began to have nightmares. 153 00:09:18,545 --> 00:09:21,565 My concerns actually manifested into nightmares. 154 00:09:21,585 --> 00:09:25,245 You were having what types of... 155 00:09:25,265 --> 00:09:27,525 It's like end of the road type of ---. 156 00:09:27,545 --> 00:09:31,545 Tsunamis, tidal waves, earthquakes, forest fires, floods, 157 00:09:31,565 --> 00:09:34,345 that type of stuff, which was really weird. 158 00:09:34,365 --> 00:09:38,325 And I didn't know what the hell was going on with me. 159 00:09:40,405 --> 00:09:43,425 The reason why I am here talking to you is because... 160 00:09:45,365 --> 00:09:47,205 Something's happening here 161 00:09:47,225 --> 00:09:52,285 and my personal fear is what if happened to me 162 00:09:52,305 --> 00:09:55,145 happens to the whole damn world at the same time? 163 00:09:57,305 --> 00:10:00,485 And nobody knows why. And everything's changing. 164 00:10:00,505 --> 00:10:04,165 That might not end so well for us, Ben, 165 00:10:04,185 --> 00:10:06,365 so I think we need to prepare for this 166 00:10:06,385 --> 00:10:08,365 because it's coming whether we want it to or not. 167 00:10:12,205 --> 00:10:15,165 I didn't expect Kevin to be so emotionally impacted 168 00:10:15,185 --> 00:10:16,405 from this event. 169 00:10:16,425 --> 00:10:19,125 It's been 15 years since this occurred 170 00:10:19,145 --> 00:10:23,385 and yet you can see in his eyes, this completely changed his world. 171 00:10:23,405 --> 00:10:27,385 He felt like these objects may have been here for a long time. 172 00:10:27,405 --> 00:10:30,405 Can we place this event that was only 15 years old in history, 173 00:10:30,425 --> 00:10:34,185 a pattern perhaps is emerging. 174 00:10:37,125 --> 00:10:40,365 Ben contacts the one person he thinks knows the truth, 175 00:10:40,385 --> 00:10:41,545 Jennie Zeidman. 176 00:10:41,565 --> 00:10:43,425 The last remaining member 177 00:10:43,445 --> 00:10:46,245 of the top secret government agency, 178 00:10:46,265 --> 00:10:48,205 Project Blue Book. 179 00:10:49,165 --> 00:10:51,185 Starting in 1952, 180 00:10:51,205 --> 00:10:55,185 Project Blue Book analysed thousands of UFO encounters. 181 00:10:55,205 --> 00:10:59,425 Like Kevin, Jennie has never gone public with what she knows 182 00:10:59,445 --> 00:11:00,465 but she's agreed to share 183 00:11:00,485 --> 00:11:03,265 what the government knows about the UFOs 184 00:11:03,285 --> 00:11:06,305 and grant Ben access to her case files. 185 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:10,245 Jennie, Mark, 186 00:11:10,265 --> 00:11:12,305 I just had a really great conversation 187 00:11:12,325 --> 00:11:15,405 with Kevin Day of the USS Nimitz case. 188 00:11:15,425 --> 00:11:20,545 A very personal, up close, kind of terrifying experience 189 00:11:20,565 --> 00:11:24,345 that these military pilots had with this UFO. 190 00:11:27,165 --> 00:11:31,185 If they had been hostile, there is nothing I could have done. 191 00:11:31,565 --> 00:11:33,525 Jennie, what do you think of this? 192 00:11:33,545 --> 00:11:36,425 This was a horrible, scary thing. 193 00:11:36,445 --> 00:11:40,345 Well, you see Donnelly couldn't control anything about it. 194 00:11:40,365 --> 00:11:42,505 He didn't even know what it was. 195 00:11:42,525 --> 00:11:46,265 Joining Jennie and Ben is UFO Historian, Mark O'Connell. 196 00:11:46,285 --> 00:11:50,545 All we know for sure is he was very close to this object. 197 00:11:50,565 --> 00:11:52,325 But what is it? 198 00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:55,285 It's an enigma, wrapped up in a mystery. 199 00:11:55,305 --> 00:11:58,345 But it's not the first time Jennie's heard accounts 200 00:11:58,365 --> 00:12:02,525 of an oval-shaped craft playing games with American military pilots. 201 00:12:02,545 --> 00:12:06,425 Jennie sends Mark to dig up one of the cases in her archive, 202 00:12:06,445 --> 00:12:10,425 the Coyne UFO helicopter case of 1973. 203 00:12:10,445 --> 00:12:15,165 There was a profusion of UFO cases in the fall of 1973. 204 00:12:15,185 --> 00:12:18,445 Most of them were in the East of United States. 205 00:12:18,465 --> 00:12:22,385 Among them, the Coyne helicopter case. 206 00:12:23,225 --> 00:12:27,465 Most of the time with UFO reports there's one person. 207 00:12:27,485 --> 00:12:31,345 The Coyne case has separate witnesses. 208 00:12:32,425 --> 00:12:35,505 Several witnesses all reported seeing the same thing, 209 00:12:35,525 --> 00:12:40,165 a cylindrical object flying across the sky at incredible speeds 210 00:12:40,185 --> 00:12:42,585 just like the Nimitz TicTac video. 211 00:12:49,405 --> 00:12:53,325 I interviewed the crew, mostly separately. 212 00:12:53,345 --> 00:12:57,285 And they were very cooperative? They were very cooperative. 213 00:12:57,305 --> 00:13:02,185 Coyne is very serious and I can't imagine him pulling anything. 214 00:13:02,205 --> 00:13:06,105 I think we got the tapes right here. Well, let's have a listen. 215 00:13:06,125 --> 00:13:08,385 Jennie's tapes are the original interviews 216 00:13:08,405 --> 00:13:11,085 she conducted with the Coyne helicopter crew 217 00:13:11,105 --> 00:13:13,125 about their UFO encounter. 218 00:13:13,145 --> 00:13:15,545 First up, Sergeant Healey, the flight medic, 219 00:13:15,565 --> 00:13:18,125 describes that the object looked like. 220 00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:36,505 Next, Robert Yanacsek, Crew Chief, describes how the UFO moved. 221 00:13:53,185 --> 00:13:56,265 Finally Captain Coyne, the helicopter pilot, 222 00:13:56,285 --> 00:13:58,265 describes the encounter. 223 00:14:17,145 --> 00:14:20,285 The UFO described by the Coyne helicopter crew 224 00:14:20,305 --> 00:14:24,525 and the Nimitz Naval pilots 30 years later sound eerily similar 225 00:14:24,545 --> 00:14:27,405 in appearance, movement and encounter 226 00:14:27,425 --> 00:14:28,565 but that's not all. 227 00:14:29,085 --> 00:14:31,525 Soon after the Coyne incident, Sergeant Healey, 228 00:14:31,545 --> 00:14:35,305 like Kevin Day, began having strange nightmares. 229 00:14:46,365 --> 00:14:50,165 Sounds like someone who suffered something very traumatic. 230 00:14:50,185 --> 00:14:52,365 This was a nightmare, 231 00:14:52,385 --> 00:14:54,285 and a nightmare of you watching something 232 00:14:54,305 --> 00:14:56,385 which you have no control over. 233 00:14:58,505 --> 00:15:00,445 So do we have anything else reported? 234 00:15:00,465 --> 00:15:03,325 Other witnesses? Did they come out at the time? 235 00:15:03,345 --> 00:15:08,285 As Jennie soon discovered, people on the ground also saw the object. 236 00:15:08,305 --> 00:15:12,285 The second group was a family. Several kids, the mother driving. 237 00:15:12,305 --> 00:15:15,165 Is this the case file here? Uh-huh. 238 00:15:15,185 --> 00:15:17,085 Well, let's have a listen. 239 00:17:07,445 --> 00:17:13,225 That illustration is true to the testimony of the family in the car. 240 00:17:13,245 --> 00:17:16,265 So they were actually pretty close. 241 00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:20,245 Well, one of the kids said the object was as big as a school bus 242 00:17:20,265 --> 00:17:25,085 and this is a very credible testimony 243 00:17:25,105 --> 00:17:30,185 so that means that these are truly unidentified objects. 244 00:17:30,505 --> 00:17:34,345 You were over several months talking to them so each rendition... 245 00:17:34,365 --> 00:17:37,345 Oh, over months and none of these stories ever changed. 246 00:17:39,425 --> 00:17:42,485 By this time, I had been working on the case so long 247 00:17:42,505 --> 00:17:47,085 that I probably just sat and looked at the papers 248 00:17:47,105 --> 00:17:50,305 and said "This is it." 249 00:17:57,065 --> 00:18:01,385 And I'm looking at this and thinking about Kevin Day's description. 250 00:18:01,405 --> 00:18:05,245 What they described as a TicTac, right? 251 00:18:05,265 --> 00:18:09,165 Cylindrical, no wings, no tail, 252 00:18:09,185 --> 00:18:11,205 and I can't help but think 253 00:18:11,225 --> 00:18:18,085 how similar we have, 1973, something such as this, right? 254 00:18:18,105 --> 00:18:20,265 Is it possible we're dealing 255 00:18:20,285 --> 00:18:23,385 the same craft? Or the same model. 256 00:18:23,405 --> 00:18:25,425 Same type of class, or like you said, model, 257 00:18:25,445 --> 00:18:28,105 maybe it was a very popular model. Yeah. 258 00:18:28,125 --> 00:18:31,225 Pretty mind boggling. I agree, it's very puzzling. 259 00:18:31,245 --> 00:18:33,545 What else can we find in history 260 00:18:34,065 --> 00:18:38,285 where we've had these very close contact reports 261 00:18:38,305 --> 00:18:42,185 with military pilots or a personnel with UFOs? 262 00:18:42,205 --> 00:18:46,525 Well, the first on record is from January 1948, 263 00:18:46,545 --> 00:18:50,205 that's when an international guard pilot named Thomas Mantell 264 00:18:50,225 --> 00:18:53,405 was ferrying a plane from Georgia up to Kentucky 265 00:18:53,425 --> 00:18:56,365 and what he didn't know was, while he was flying north, 266 00:18:56,385 --> 00:18:58,285 people all over Kentucky were recording 267 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:00,505 seeing a strange object in the sky. 268 00:19:00,525 --> 00:19:02,345 So Mantell's flying into this area 269 00:19:02,365 --> 00:19:04,125 where all these sightings had taken place 270 00:19:04,145 --> 00:19:07,205 and he gets the order to change course, 271 00:19:07,225 --> 00:19:09,385 follow this thing, find out what it is. 272 00:19:09,405 --> 00:19:12,125 So he breaks off from the three other pilots in his group 273 00:19:12,145 --> 00:19:15,205 and basically starts chasing this object, 274 00:19:15,225 --> 00:19:17,485 starts following it higher and higher. 275 00:19:17,505 --> 00:19:21,145 Unfortunately his plane wasn't equipped with oxygen. 276 00:19:21,165 --> 00:19:22,525 Ooh. Yeah. 277 00:19:22,545 --> 00:19:24,525 He was on a short flight at lower altitude 278 00:19:24,545 --> 00:19:27,185 and he didn't need the oxygen. 279 00:19:27,205 --> 00:19:31,525 And he's flying way past an altitude where you need oxygen. 280 00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:33,365 And he passed out. 281 00:19:33,385 --> 00:19:35,385 He may have actually suffocated at 30,000 feet 282 00:19:35,405 --> 00:19:37,265 before he went into his crash dive. 283 00:19:37,285 --> 00:19:42,325 All we know for sure is, he got to about 25, 30,000 feet 284 00:19:42,345 --> 00:19:44,245 and his plane crashed. 285 00:19:44,265 --> 00:19:47,525 The Mantell case was a real tragedy. 286 00:19:47,545 --> 00:19:50,545 As far as we know, it wasn't directly caused by the UFO 287 00:19:51,065 --> 00:19:52,505 but getting up there and following it 288 00:19:52,525 --> 00:19:55,145 was the impetus that maybe caused his death. 289 00:19:55,165 --> 00:19:56,285 Yeah, exactly. 290 00:19:56,305 --> 00:19:59,325 It's interesting that both cases we're talking about, 291 00:19:59,345 --> 00:20:01,445 the Nimitz case and the Coyne copter case, 292 00:20:01,465 --> 00:20:04,365 why are they so curious 293 00:20:04,385 --> 00:20:08,165 about interfering with military aircraft? 294 00:20:08,185 --> 00:20:10,545 What are they looking for? What are they testing? 295 00:20:12,145 --> 00:20:17,285 I'm a pessimist, as you may have gotten hints of from time to time. 296 00:20:17,305 --> 00:20:21,205 They're so far ahead of us technologically 297 00:20:21,225 --> 00:20:26,165 and I don't see how we could ever survive. 298 00:20:30,545 --> 00:20:32,525 There's a lot of information here to process 299 00:20:32,545 --> 00:20:36,145 and I would love to read over your full report, Jennie. 300 00:20:36,165 --> 00:20:38,205 Is there anyone that you think I could talk to 301 00:20:38,225 --> 00:20:40,385 that was actually there that day? 302 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:43,085 Yeah, we managed to track down Rick Jezzi. 303 00:20:43,105 --> 00:20:45,165 Really? Oh, yeah. 304 00:20:45,185 --> 00:20:47,385 One of the four crewmen on the helicopter. 305 00:20:47,405 --> 00:20:49,445 He was at the controls of the helicopter 306 00:20:49,465 --> 00:20:51,325 when they first sighted the object 307 00:20:51,345 --> 00:20:54,305 so he's gonna have a lot of really good stuff to share with you. 308 00:20:54,325 --> 00:20:55,445 Oh, I can't wait. 309 00:20:55,465 --> 00:21:00,365 But you better see him fast 'cause time is a-fleeting. 310 00:21:06,225 --> 00:21:10,425 Jennie arranges a meeting with Coyne helicopter pilot, Rick Jezzi. 311 00:21:10,445 --> 00:21:14,125 Rick hasn't gone on record since the 1970s 312 00:21:14,145 --> 00:21:16,165 but due to Ben's background 313 00:21:16,185 --> 00:21:19,105 he's agreed to meet him in a hotel in Philadelphia. 314 00:21:19,125 --> 00:21:22,245 Interviewing Rick is a once in a lifetime opportunity. 315 00:21:23,125 --> 00:21:25,105 Interview with Rick Jezzi. 316 00:21:27,105 --> 00:21:29,405 Rick, thank you so much for meeting me here. 317 00:21:29,425 --> 00:21:35,065 I have talked to Jennie Zeidman and gone over a lot of things 318 00:21:35,085 --> 00:21:37,445 and I'm so happy to have you actually here 319 00:21:37,465 --> 00:21:39,285 because, unfortunately as I understand, 320 00:21:39,305 --> 00:21:41,525 most of the crew, or all of them, are all gone. 321 00:21:41,545 --> 00:21:44,485 Last man standing. 322 00:21:44,505 --> 00:21:47,285 I know, maybe it's been a while since you've told the story. 323 00:21:47,305 --> 00:21:50,205 Can you take me back to that and just try to... 324 00:21:50,225 --> 00:21:53,285 Do you remember the details? Who noticed something unusual first 325 00:21:53,305 --> 00:21:54,545 and what happened? 326 00:22:12,065 --> 00:22:14,525 Then all of a sudden, the commentary increases in tempo. 327 00:22:33,405 --> 00:22:37,365 But it was much, much faster than what we were used to seeing 328 00:22:37,385 --> 00:22:40,265 at that altitude on our regular flight. 329 00:22:46,405 --> 00:22:48,345 Which, in an army helicopter is, 330 00:22:48,365 --> 00:22:50,245 you cut the throttle and you put the collective down 331 00:22:50,265 --> 00:22:53,065 and you drop, and you drop pretty aggressively. 332 00:22:53,085 --> 00:22:55,425 But the helicopter didn't drop at all. 333 00:22:57,305 --> 00:23:00,145 Instead it started rapidly gaining altitude 334 00:23:01,245 --> 00:23:03,445 completely out of the pilot's control. 335 00:23:08,145 --> 00:23:09,545 And I have no idea what it was. 336 00:23:14,065 --> 00:23:17,445 Ben Hansen is investigating the 2004 UFO sighting 337 00:23:17,465 --> 00:23:21,405 that shocked Kevin Day's crew onboard the USS Nimitz. 338 00:23:21,425 --> 00:23:23,325 I think we need to prepare for this 339 00:23:23,345 --> 00:23:25,225 because it's coming whether we want it to or not. 340 00:23:25,245 --> 00:23:29,325 Could this be the very same UFO that visited pilot Rick Jezzi 341 00:23:29,345 --> 00:23:33,345 during the infamous Coyne incident of 1973? 342 00:23:33,365 --> 00:23:35,325 I only got to see the object. 343 00:23:35,345 --> 00:23:38,365 It was directly above us 344 00:23:38,385 --> 00:23:41,485 and what I noticed was a very bright, white light. 345 00:23:41,505 --> 00:23:44,345 It was close enough to be of major concern. 346 00:23:47,065 --> 00:23:50,305 To avoid collision, Coyne attempted a rapid descent. 347 00:23:50,325 --> 00:23:52,505 But instead, the TicTac-shaped object 348 00:23:52,525 --> 00:23:55,145 pulled the helicopter towards it. 349 00:23:55,165 --> 00:23:57,105 By the crew members accounts 350 00:23:57,125 --> 00:24:01,525 they climbed from 1700 feet to 3500 feet in ten seconds. 351 00:24:05,365 --> 00:24:08,085 ..all the way to the horizon where it disappeared. 352 00:24:15,145 --> 00:24:18,165 After it passed, we got back to altitude. 353 00:24:18,185 --> 00:24:20,525 We flew back to Cleveland, Arkansas, and landed. 354 00:24:21,045 --> 00:24:23,525 First reaction was, we contact the DFEA. 355 00:24:24,045 --> 00:24:26,365 They weren't flying, every aircraft was down that day. 356 00:24:28,045 --> 00:24:31,205 With no flights airborne at the flight of the encounter, 357 00:24:31,225 --> 00:24:35,185 the strange craft was truly an identified object. 358 00:24:35,205 --> 00:24:38,125 So we reported it as a near miss 359 00:24:38,145 --> 00:24:42,265 and that was the official position that was taken. 360 00:24:42,285 --> 00:24:44,185 Wow. OK. 361 00:24:44,205 --> 00:24:47,285 Well, that's quite the experience. 362 00:24:47,305 --> 00:24:49,505 When you landed as a crew, you made the official reports 363 00:24:49,525 --> 00:24:53,185 but did they do any follow up of that? 364 00:24:53,205 --> 00:24:55,105 Did they find this concerning? 365 00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:57,285 No. There was no follow up from the military at all? 366 00:24:57,305 --> 00:24:58,465 None at all? Not at all. 367 00:24:58,485 --> 00:25:00,385 Wow. 368 00:25:02,225 --> 00:25:04,445 My puzzlement is, why would the military, the FAA, 369 00:25:04,465 --> 00:25:06,465 not be more concerned with finding out? 370 00:25:06,485 --> 00:25:11,145 Oh, I think the military know a lot more than they say 371 00:25:11,165 --> 00:25:13,465 but obviously they're not discussing it. 372 00:25:14,465 --> 00:25:17,485 Now one of the things that... true, it happened, 373 00:25:17,505 --> 00:25:21,045 was that the mag compass on that helicopter 374 00:25:21,065 --> 00:25:23,305 never functioned the same way as it did before. 375 00:25:24,465 --> 00:25:27,445 At times, it would just spin on its own. 376 00:25:27,465 --> 00:25:30,105 Really? And then it would stop. 377 00:25:30,125 --> 00:25:32,125 And it would point some place that it shouldn't be pointing to. 378 00:25:32,145 --> 00:25:34,105 It was weird. It was replaced later. 379 00:25:34,125 --> 00:25:37,085 Unfortunately, that piece of hard evidence 380 00:25:37,105 --> 00:25:39,125 appears to have been destroyed 381 00:25:39,145 --> 00:25:41,185 and the story covered up. 382 00:25:41,205 --> 00:25:43,085 Did you ever talk to each other about, 383 00:25:43,105 --> 00:25:45,465 like, "Hey, should we talk to the public about this?" 384 00:25:45,485 --> 00:25:48,245 There was some sensitivity about being embarrassed. 385 00:25:48,265 --> 00:25:50,245 "Who are these gooks who saw a UFO?" 386 00:25:50,265 --> 00:25:53,465 That permeated some of the discussion that we had the next day. 387 00:26:07,245 --> 00:26:08,525 Wow. 388 00:26:09,045 --> 00:26:11,045 I, again, wanted to really thank you, Rick. 389 00:26:11,065 --> 00:26:13,365 It may not have been easy for you to come here today, 390 00:26:13,385 --> 00:26:16,465 but thank you for trusting me in hearing your story, 391 00:26:16,485 --> 00:26:20,225 I really appreciate it. OK. Thank you. 392 00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,245 NARRATOR: Rick's experienced a terrifying encounter 393 00:26:22,265 --> 00:26:24,185 similar to Kevin Day's. 394 00:26:24,205 --> 00:26:28,505 Now both men have the same question. Why did the government cover it up? 395 00:26:30,325 --> 00:26:33,485 Something unexplainable happened to Rick's helicopter - 396 00:26:33,505 --> 00:26:35,505 when they attempted to descend, 397 00:26:35,525 --> 00:26:40,345 the helicopter instead ascended 1800 feet in a matter of seconds. 398 00:26:40,365 --> 00:26:44,305 Is it possible that the UFO was pulling it up like a magnet? 399 00:26:44,325 --> 00:26:47,165 Ben decides to set up an experiment. 400 00:26:47,185 --> 00:26:48,485 BEN: Good morning. You must be Andrew. 401 00:26:48,505 --> 00:26:51,285 I'm Andrew. Nice to meet you, Ben. Ben. Nice to meet you. 402 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:54,045 Andrew Adrion is a helicopter pilot 403 00:26:54,065 --> 00:26:56,445 who specialises in high altitude manoeuvres. 404 00:26:56,465 --> 00:26:59,485 You got the notes that I sent you about what we're trying to do? 405 00:26:59,505 --> 00:27:02,305 I did. Great, well, let's get started. 406 00:27:02,325 --> 00:27:06,165 NARRATOR: Ufologists theorise that extra-terrestrial spacecraft 407 00:27:06,185 --> 00:27:09,265 use magnetic forces to propel themselves through the galaxy. 408 00:27:09,285 --> 00:27:15,145 Could this also account for the helicopters rapid ascent in 1973? 409 00:27:15,165 --> 00:27:17,265 Ben wants to put this theory to the test. 410 00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:23,125 BEN: We have to make sure the crew has some experience in this too 411 00:27:23,145 --> 00:27:25,485 because some of them get air sick. 412 00:27:28,125 --> 00:27:29,425 Clear! 413 00:27:29,445 --> 00:27:32,045 Alright. I'm ready to do this. 414 00:28:15,245 --> 00:28:16,485 Whoa-hoo! 415 00:28:21,025 --> 00:28:22,425 NARRATOR: Chief radar officer Kevin Day 416 00:28:22,445 --> 00:28:26,065 came in contact with a UFO in 2004. 417 00:28:26,085 --> 00:28:28,125 It really --- happened. 418 00:28:29,165 --> 00:28:32,365 30 years earlier, helicopter pilot Rick Jezzi 419 00:28:32,385 --> 00:28:35,045 saw the same TicTac-shaped craft. 420 00:28:35,065 --> 00:28:37,125 The object was directly above us. 421 00:28:37,145 --> 00:28:39,185 Ben is determined to find out 422 00:28:39,205 --> 00:28:41,405 if alien ships are deliberately making contact 423 00:28:41,425 --> 00:28:43,445 with US military aircraft. 424 00:28:45,465 --> 00:28:48,405 Today, Ben is conducting an experiment. 425 00:28:48,425 --> 00:28:53,025 Back in 1973, the helicopter crew claimed the vehicle climbed 426 00:28:53,045 --> 00:28:58,245 from 1700 feet to 3500 feet in just ten seconds. 427 00:28:58,265 --> 00:29:00,365 Is a helicopter even capable of that? 428 00:29:00,385 --> 00:29:04,025 Or was it caught in the magnetic pull of a UFO? 429 00:29:57,385 --> 00:30:01,105 The test is complete and the results are clear. 430 00:30:01,125 --> 00:30:05,225 A helicopter can not climb 1800 feet in ten seconds. 431 00:30:39,505 --> 00:30:43,325 That was fun. 432 00:30:43,345 --> 00:30:46,145 This experiment was a huge success. 433 00:30:46,165 --> 00:30:49,445 I learned some things that I was not expecting with a helicopter. 434 00:30:49,465 --> 00:30:52,225 What it told me is that 435 00:30:52,245 --> 00:30:56,425 any helicopter is not going to be able to make that rate of climb 436 00:30:56,445 --> 00:30:59,165 naturally within ten seconds. 437 00:30:59,185 --> 00:31:03,065 I just don't see it happening. We're left with the X-Factor. 438 00:31:03,085 --> 00:31:08,105 Some external force had to have created this scenario 439 00:31:08,125 --> 00:31:12,385 where the helicopter ascended 1800 feet in ten to 12 seconds. 440 00:31:14,225 --> 00:31:15,405 NARRATOR: Ben is now convinced 441 00:31:15,425 --> 00:31:18,265 that the helicopter was somehow manipulated 442 00:31:18,285 --> 00:31:21,085 by the TicTac-shaped UFO it encountered. 443 00:31:21,105 --> 00:31:24,285 But the question remains, how did the TicTac achieve this 444 00:31:24,305 --> 00:31:26,145 and why? 445 00:31:26,165 --> 00:31:29,325 To find out, Ben is meeting with a local UFO expert 446 00:31:29,345 --> 00:31:32,225 who claims to have never before revealed info 447 00:31:32,245 --> 00:31:34,325 on the Coyne helicopter case. 448 00:31:36,065 --> 00:31:38,045 Hey, you must be Tom. Hey, how are you? I'm Tom. 449 00:31:38,065 --> 00:31:39,325 Nice to meet you. 450 00:31:39,345 --> 00:31:42,465 So thank you so much for meeting me here. 451 00:31:42,485 --> 00:31:44,405 I'm really interested to first know 452 00:31:44,425 --> 00:31:48,325 how did you get started investigating the Coyne copter case? 453 00:31:48,345 --> 00:31:51,405 One thing that really made me start digging in this whole case, 454 00:31:51,425 --> 00:31:54,445 you've got trace evidence from mechanical issues on the helicopter. 455 00:31:54,465 --> 00:31:58,225 I'm a pilot and when you do maintenance on any aircraft, 456 00:31:58,245 --> 00:32:04,125 that maintenance follows the aircraft for the life of the plane, 457 00:32:04,145 --> 00:32:06,145 the helicopter you're required to. Right. 458 00:32:06,165 --> 00:32:10,345 Do you know if the military made official documentation 459 00:32:10,365 --> 00:32:14,025 of those affects on the craft, or what happened to it afterward? 460 00:32:14,045 --> 00:32:15,305 Well, here's the problem. 461 00:32:15,325 --> 00:32:19,405 When you dig into it, you find out that the compass was swapped out, 462 00:32:19,425 --> 00:32:21,385 and after 90 days 463 00:32:21,405 --> 00:32:24,485 they threw away the documentation associated with it. 464 00:32:26,185 --> 00:32:29,225 Yeah, yeah, right. 465 00:32:29,245 --> 00:32:32,025 Then they went back later on 466 00:32:32,045 --> 00:32:34,285 and started talking to the crew about some unusual dreams. 467 00:32:36,205 --> 00:32:39,085 What they related to? Out of body experiences. 468 00:32:40,245 --> 00:32:43,365 Kevin day in 2004 and Rick's crew in 1973 469 00:32:43,385 --> 00:32:47,045 both discussed having residual nightmares 470 00:32:47,065 --> 00:32:48,365 after their UFO encounters. 471 00:32:48,385 --> 00:32:51,225 My concerns actually manifested into nightmares - 472 00:32:51,245 --> 00:32:53,385 tsunamis, tidal waves, earthquakes, forest fires, floods, 473 00:32:53,405 --> 00:32:55,205 that type of stuff. 474 00:33:01,105 --> 00:33:04,145 They want to know about the content of the dreams 475 00:33:04,165 --> 00:33:05,225 and they wanna know all about the dreams? 476 00:33:05,245 --> 00:33:07,305 That's right. They wanted to know about the dreams. 477 00:33:07,325 --> 00:33:09,385 So who was it that asked them about their dreams? 478 00:33:09,405 --> 00:33:12,165 It came from the surgeon general's office. 479 00:33:14,085 --> 00:33:16,085 Has the government long known 480 00:33:16,105 --> 00:33:20,485 that apocalyptic nightmares were an after effect of UFO encounters? 481 00:33:20,505 --> 00:33:24,305 Tell me a little bit more about the effects on the Huey helicopter. 482 00:33:24,325 --> 00:33:28,225 On the helicopter they did a Magnaflux test the next day. 483 00:33:28,245 --> 00:33:30,085 The Magnaflux test, 484 00:33:30,105 --> 00:33:32,445 what they would do, is spray on a chemical, 485 00:33:32,465 --> 00:33:37,105 then it would put an ultraviolet light to it and look for fractures. 486 00:33:37,125 --> 00:33:42,065 Well, why would you do a Magnaflux test out of the clear blue sky? 487 00:33:42,085 --> 00:33:45,165 It's only unless you're looking for something. 488 00:33:45,185 --> 00:33:47,365 Do you know who did this? I mean, their superiors, or... 489 00:33:47,385 --> 00:33:49,325 It's just like the mechanics, 490 00:33:49,345 --> 00:33:51,365 there was no mention of exactly who ordered it 491 00:33:51,385 --> 00:33:53,445 but it was just done. 492 00:33:53,465 --> 00:33:56,425 So they get back, they do these tests on the helicopter. 493 00:33:56,445 --> 00:34:02,305 It's unusual to be testing an aircraft on a routine flight, right? 494 00:34:02,325 --> 00:34:05,445 That soon afterwards, why would you do that? 495 00:34:05,465 --> 00:34:08,325 To me that would be such a major coincidence 496 00:34:08,345 --> 00:34:11,105 that they would do it the next day. 497 00:34:11,125 --> 00:34:14,065 So what about the crew? Did they debrief them on the whole thing? 498 00:34:14,085 --> 00:34:16,465 Well, that's another interesting thing. 499 00:34:16,485 --> 00:34:19,025 So it took six months 500 00:34:19,045 --> 00:34:23,125 for eventually a disposition to get filled out with the FAA, 501 00:34:23,145 --> 00:34:27,265 where they documented everything that happened. 502 00:34:27,285 --> 00:34:31,505 And I ask Healey and Yanacsek, both, about that document. 503 00:34:32,025 --> 00:34:35,305 I said "Does the military mind you talking about this?" 504 00:34:35,325 --> 00:34:39,285 "As long as we stay with the story." Mm-mm. 505 00:34:39,305 --> 00:34:42,445 So basically what they were saying is "As long as I don't vary 506 00:34:42,465 --> 00:34:45,405 and kinda become very opinionated on everything 507 00:34:45,425 --> 00:34:49,285 and I just stay with the script, they're fine with me." 508 00:34:49,305 --> 00:34:52,365 Huh. So I'm like, "That's unusual." 509 00:34:52,385 --> 00:34:55,065 What happens to the helicopter 510 00:34:55,085 --> 00:34:56,485 Well, that to me is a good question 511 00:34:56,505 --> 00:34:59,345 because that's your biggest piece of physical evidence. 512 00:34:59,365 --> 00:35:02,045 Great. 513 00:35:02,065 --> 00:35:04,285 find out that the helicopter was pulled out of service, 514 00:35:04,305 --> 00:35:08,265 reassigned another number and send to Columbia. 515 00:35:08,285 --> 00:35:11,025 I found WikiLeaks documents to that effect. 516 00:35:11,045 --> 00:35:12,245 Really? Yes. 517 00:35:12,265 --> 00:35:17,245 This helicopter, in March of 2009, crashed, 518 00:35:17,265 --> 00:35:20,065 killing all four crewmen on board. 519 00:35:22,405 --> 00:35:24,405 And it wasn't because it was shot down. 520 00:35:24,425 --> 00:35:25,445 Huh! 521 00:35:25,465 --> 00:35:29,245 What if this helicopter had ongoing mechanical issues? 522 00:35:29,265 --> 00:35:33,345 What if he found maybe magnetic affects on the helicopter 523 00:35:33,365 --> 00:35:36,025 all these years later? 524 00:35:36,045 --> 00:35:40,505 Based on Tom's research, is it possible that the 1973 UFO encounter 525 00:35:41,025 --> 00:35:43,165 damaged the helicopter, 526 00:35:43,185 --> 00:35:45,205 which in turn caused it to crash 527 00:35:45,225 --> 00:35:47,285 years later in the jungles of Columbia? 528 00:35:47,305 --> 00:35:50,305 Awesome. Tom, you have given me so much information, thank you. 529 00:35:50,325 --> 00:35:52,085 Thank you. 530 00:35:52,405 --> 00:35:57,065 Tom has really gone the extra mile in a lot of aspects of this case. 531 00:35:57,085 --> 00:36:00,205 He actually tried to track down where the helicopter went. 532 00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:03,225 The question is, are some of the problems 533 00:36:03,245 --> 00:36:08,085 that contributed to the crash related to this UFO incident? 534 00:36:09,185 --> 00:36:11,145 NARRATOR: A bigger question remains. 535 00:36:11,165 --> 00:36:13,365 With the similarities of the two incidents, 536 00:36:13,385 --> 00:36:16,185 how many other pilots and crew have had experiences 537 00:36:16,205 --> 00:36:18,385 like Kevin Day and Rick Jezzi? 538 00:36:18,405 --> 00:36:21,345 To find out, Ben is reaching out to NARCAP, 539 00:36:21,365 --> 00:36:25,025 an organisation that tracks anonymous pilot reports 540 00:36:25,045 --> 00:36:27,345 of encounters with UFOs. 541 00:36:28,445 --> 00:36:31,365 Hi, Ted. Hi, good morning. 542 00:36:31,385 --> 00:36:33,225 Thank you for meeting with me. 543 00:36:33,245 --> 00:36:35,345 Can you tell me, on average, 544 00:36:35,365 --> 00:36:40,165 how many new cases do you get reported to you from pilots? 545 00:36:40,185 --> 00:36:43,245 We average about two dozen cases a year. 546 00:36:44,425 --> 00:36:45,485 Wow. 547 00:36:50,385 --> 00:36:54,265 Both Kevin Day and Rick Jezzi had unexplainable encounters 548 00:36:54,285 --> 00:36:57,305 with TicTac-shaped UFOs during their time in the military... 549 00:36:57,325 --> 00:37:01,465 It really --- happened. You think I'm lying? 550 00:37:01,485 --> 00:37:04,425 ..that were later swept under the rug. 551 00:37:04,445 --> 00:37:06,365 There was no follow up from the military at all. 552 00:37:06,385 --> 00:37:08,085 Not at all? None at all. 553 00:37:08,105 --> 00:37:11,005 Is the government covering up these encounters 554 00:37:11,025 --> 00:37:13,285 because they know more than they admit? 555 00:37:13,305 --> 00:37:16,365 And if so, why are they hiding the truth from us? 556 00:37:16,385 --> 00:37:19,145 Ben is meeting with the head of an organisation 557 00:37:19,165 --> 00:37:22,405 that supports victims of UFO encounters to find out. 558 00:37:22,425 --> 00:37:24,225 BEN: On average, 559 00:37:24,245 --> 00:37:26,025 how many new cases 560 00:37:26,045 --> 00:37:28,005 do you get reported to you from pilots? 561 00:37:28,025 --> 00:37:30,325 We average about two dozen case a year. 562 00:37:32,105 --> 00:37:33,285 Wow. 563 00:37:33,305 --> 00:37:36,165 Yes, we feel it's the tip of the iceberg. 564 00:37:36,185 --> 00:37:39,185 Generally FAA will not take them on and won't study them 565 00:37:39,205 --> 00:37:42,345 and this is a very irrational perspective in my opinion 566 00:37:42,365 --> 00:37:47,045 because spending time in the gathering of airmen, 567 00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:49,085 somebody's got something to tell me. 568 00:37:49,105 --> 00:37:52,025 Ted, you've been doing this for quite some time. 569 00:37:52,045 --> 00:37:56,025 What do you think they are? Where do you think they're from? 570 00:37:57,045 --> 00:37:59,205 That's the big question. 571 00:37:59,225 --> 00:38:01,245 Some of them I think are natural phenomena 572 00:38:01,265 --> 00:38:03,245 but others make a different explanation. 573 00:38:03,265 --> 00:38:05,025 They're clearly technical. 574 00:38:05,045 --> 00:38:07,105 They're clearly superior in performance 575 00:38:07,125 --> 00:38:11,005 to any known aerial phenomena including airplanes. 576 00:38:11,025 --> 00:38:14,125 I have a hard time believing that they're human technology, 577 00:38:14,145 --> 00:38:16,405 wherever they're from. 578 00:38:16,425 --> 00:38:18,465 Do you think we're prepared? 579 00:38:18,485 --> 00:38:23,325 If this were malevolent, if they have bad intentions, 580 00:38:23,345 --> 00:38:27,445 do you think we're prepared to meet with such superior technology? 581 00:38:27,465 --> 00:38:33,225 No. No. Unequivocally, no. 582 00:38:34,165 --> 00:38:37,205 We're talking about something very, very different 583 00:38:37,225 --> 00:38:41,365 and we've had no real preparation for it, just rumours. 584 00:38:41,385 --> 00:38:44,005 If you take all these factors together, 585 00:38:44,025 --> 00:38:47,485 I don't know why the media especially, or the government, 586 00:38:48,005 --> 00:38:52,365 doesn't take more notice of these things, because they're significant. 587 00:38:52,385 --> 00:38:55,065 They could be potentially very dangerous 588 00:38:55,085 --> 00:38:58,485 and they're happening. That's a good synopsis right there. 589 00:38:59,005 --> 00:39:01,005 Alright, well, Ted, thank you so much. 590 00:39:01,025 --> 00:39:02,285 You've, you've given me a lot to think about. 591 00:39:02,305 --> 00:39:04,305 Everything that you've done to collect these reports 592 00:39:04,325 --> 00:39:07,265 I think is very important, and I appreciate your time. 593 00:39:07,285 --> 00:39:10,345 Thank you very much, Ben. 594 00:39:11,385 --> 00:39:13,485 Ted and the NARCAP organisation 595 00:39:14,005 --> 00:39:17,065 have been studying UFO pilot reports for decades 596 00:39:17,085 --> 00:39:23,025 and what he concludes is that these are not conventional craft. 597 00:39:23,045 --> 00:39:25,225 They're probably not from here, they're extra-terrestrial 598 00:39:25,245 --> 00:39:27,485 and I think that is confirming 599 00:39:28,005 --> 00:39:31,005 what I've been seeing in the Coyne copter case 600 00:39:31,025 --> 00:39:32,305 and with the Nimitz video. 601 00:39:32,325 --> 00:39:35,225 So if these are the types of reports we're getting 602 00:39:35,245 --> 00:39:37,045 that are coming forward, 603 00:39:37,065 --> 00:39:39,405 think about all the others we're not receiving. 604 00:39:39,425 --> 00:39:42,325 NARRATOR: Digging in to NARCAP's archives, 605 00:39:42,345 --> 00:39:45,025 Ben turns up a shocking video 606 00:39:45,045 --> 00:39:48,005 taken by two documentary film makers. 607 00:39:50,145 --> 00:39:53,045 Has the TicTac craft 608 00:39:53,065 --> 00:39:55,145 Ben is meeting back up with Kevin Day 609 00:39:55,165 --> 00:39:58,105 and legendary ufologist Doctor Bruce Maccabee 610 00:39:58,125 --> 00:40:00,245 to find out their opinions. 611 00:40:00,265 --> 00:40:03,065 I'd like to start with this video 612 00:40:03,085 --> 00:40:07,405 that we obtained from a more recent case out of Beaver, Utah. 613 00:40:07,425 --> 00:40:10,025 Kinda just like your opinions on this. 614 00:40:13,005 --> 00:40:14,125 There. Right there. 615 00:40:14,145 --> 00:40:15,445 So, so fast. 616 00:40:15,465 --> 00:40:18,105 Here's a slowed down version. 617 00:40:19,005 --> 00:40:20,325 But as you see, it come here. 618 00:40:20,345 --> 00:40:22,325 Came down through that far gully and shoo. 619 00:40:22,345 --> 00:40:26,205 Extensively, this does come from that valley, right? 620 00:40:26,225 --> 00:40:28,225 It appears that way. 621 00:40:28,245 --> 00:40:30,125 As long as it's away, 622 00:40:30,145 --> 00:40:32,165 it's a big thing and it's going at an extremely high speed. 623 00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:37,345 Coming out of the right here. OK, it starts to take shape. 624 00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:41,205 I'm noticing the shape of it, seems similar. 625 00:40:41,225 --> 00:40:44,465 How would you describe that. I look at it and say pill-shaped, TicTac. 626 00:40:44,485 --> 00:40:46,365 Looks like a TicTac. Yeah. 627 00:40:48,005 --> 00:40:51,425 Are we perhaps looking at the same phenomenon? 628 00:40:51,445 --> 00:40:54,105 That's my personal speculation. 629 00:40:54,125 --> 00:40:56,085 NARRATOR: The craft Kevin encountered, 630 00:40:56,105 --> 00:40:58,385 the one that pulled Rick Jezzi's helicopter 631 00:40:58,405 --> 00:41:00,425 and this new object out of Utah, 632 00:41:00,445 --> 00:41:03,445 all share the signature TicTac shape. 633 00:41:03,465 --> 00:41:05,405 So Bruce, I'm sure you've looked over this. 634 00:41:05,425 --> 00:41:08,225 What is your take when you initially saw this? 635 00:41:08,245 --> 00:41:10,065 Well, I often wonder 636 00:41:10,085 --> 00:41:11,305 whether somebody got his head chopped off 637 00:41:11,325 --> 00:41:13,265 for the release of this stuff. 638 00:41:13,285 --> 00:41:18,145 Anyway, this thing, whatever it was, was out of its cage. 639 00:41:18,165 --> 00:41:20,245 Playing with us. 640 00:41:20,265 --> 00:41:22,045 Yeah. 641 00:41:22,065 --> 00:41:25,005 Here they're saying, "We can do something you can't do." Shoo! 642 00:41:26,465 --> 00:41:29,125 The type of thing that's been reported for years 643 00:41:29,145 --> 00:41:31,385 but people didn't believe it. 644 00:41:31,405 --> 00:41:32,485 Previously, 645 00:41:33,005 --> 00:41:35,265 the government has tried to keep this whole subject at arms length 646 00:41:35,285 --> 00:41:39,145 and if everybody who was a witness fell off the cliff, 647 00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:42,005 the government wouldn't care. 648 00:41:42,025 --> 00:41:43,185 So what you're saying is 649 00:41:43,205 --> 00:41:45,245 they may have been seeing the same types of objects 650 00:41:45,265 --> 00:41:47,425 but they were just seeing it differently? 651 00:41:47,445 --> 00:41:49,325 Well, they didn't know how to interpret it? 652 00:41:49,345 --> 00:41:51,105 We have suspected that the government 653 00:41:51,125 --> 00:41:53,305 is doing more than they are saying, for years, 654 00:41:53,325 --> 00:41:58,165 the problem is they can't keep the UFOs themselves quiet 655 00:41:58,185 --> 00:42:02,005 and the whole phenomenon's being driven by them. 656 00:42:06,045 --> 00:42:08,365 Right, thank you very much. 657 00:42:09,205 --> 00:42:11,385 NARRATOR: After meeting with Bruce and Kevin, 658 00:42:11,405 --> 00:42:14,005 Ben returns home with Jennie's file. 659 00:42:14,025 --> 00:42:16,145 Based on his investigation, 660 00:42:16,165 --> 00:42:19,145 Rick and his crew likely encountered something other-worldly. 661 00:42:19,165 --> 00:42:22,065 Whatever it was, it's returned. 662 00:42:25,285 --> 00:42:27,125 So there's still one piece of the puzzle 663 00:42:27,145 --> 00:42:28,285 that I'm not completely sure about. 664 00:42:28,305 --> 00:42:31,025 What was the government's role in all of this? 665 00:42:31,045 --> 00:42:33,105 Kevin Day and the helicopter crew, 666 00:42:33,125 --> 00:42:36,345 they really didn't give testimony the attention that it deserved 667 00:42:36,365 --> 00:42:39,145 and then the government went completely silent. 668 00:42:39,165 --> 00:42:41,325 So I was researching this 669 00:42:41,345 --> 00:42:44,265 and something really interesting happened. 670 00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:49,365 The Nimitz video has now become the central focus of the media 671 00:42:49,385 --> 00:42:51,385 because the Pentagon came out 672 00:42:51,405 --> 00:42:54,405 and said "Not only do we confirm that the video's authentic, 673 00:42:54,425 --> 00:42:58,345 but it depicts a truly unidentified flying object." 674 00:42:58,365 --> 00:43:00,185 In response, 675 00:43:00,205 --> 00:43:03,065 a retired government official issued the following statement: 676 00:43:14,305 --> 00:43:18,125 Personally, I'm glad that the Pentagon has finally come clean 677 00:43:18,145 --> 00:43:20,145 with the existence of UFOs. 678 00:43:20,165 --> 00:43:24,245 But the TicTac mystery still remains an unexplained threat. 679 00:43:24,265 --> 00:43:26,405 Should we be more concerned 680 00:43:26,425 --> 00:43:30,045 as to why these objects suddenly reappeared again, 681 00:43:30,065 --> 00:43:33,205 and should our pilots be prepared 682 00:43:33,225 --> 00:43:36,345 for more close encounters like Rick and Kevin experienced? 683 00:43:36,365 --> 00:43:40,385 If these TicTac UFOs are piloted by extra-terrestrials 684 00:43:40,405 --> 00:43:43,325 who are technologically light years ahead of us, 685 00:43:43,345 --> 00:43:45,345 should we be afraid? 686 00:43:45,365 --> 00:43:47,265 My search for answers continues. 687 00:43:47,285 --> 00:43:50,285 Captioned by Ai-Media ai-media.tvdummy end of file 82581

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