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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 [sil.] Okay, let's go. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Well, let's fuck it. Well, look, 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:15,000 here is what. Shit, I hate these things. You can never ever open 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,000 them. Shit. Never once have I successfully 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,000 opened a bottle by palm, and yet everybody else seem to be able to. 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,000 Oh, well. Here is what I've got. 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Every time anybody tries to apply a rule to this business, it's full 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,000 of shit. Because this business is too chaotic for any rule to 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,000 make any sense. You want to work. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 You want to work at your... being an actor. 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,000 And that's what any actor does if they are 80 years old or whatever. They were just... or 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,000 17 or anything in between. You want to work 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,000 at being an actor, which is a process, it really doesn't never stop. 16 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000 And after a while, people just say, "Oh, 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:15,000 he is still here." And then that begins to count for something. 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:20,000 I mean, years have to go by before they started to saying that. 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 And they spend a lot of energies, like, trying to beat your way with a baseball bat. 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 But then they say, "Oh, is he still here? Yeah. 21 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,000 We're at five, Austin. Maybe, you are at five. 22 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Okay. Okay. Jesus Christ. 23 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Almighty. Shut the door. If this guy didn't look the way he looks, 24 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,000 he has got a stutter and he is, you know, fight whatever he is 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,000 and he is funny looking guy and his hair is all screwy. He beat Marlon Brando. 26 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Come with a team. I'm sorry, I haven't come up to introduce myself, it's 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,000 bad form. It's probably the excitement of meeting you for the first time. My heart is going mile a 28 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,000 minute. By the way, you can just feel it pounding. Can't you feel it? Yes, I think I can. People in 29 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,000 the universe who we think are celebrities and stars, they think of Austin 30 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,000 in that caliber. I don't think that's quite a situation. I want an answer from 31 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:25,000 you. I'll look at you, which will be a seldom's possible. He is the renaissance man. There can be no 32 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,000 true art without living. He acts, he teaches, he directs, he writes. 33 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Look at there, I got him thinking, I got him thinking. You only have to watch his acting to know 34 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,000 that he is a fan of working in a way that we likely all kind of dream of working. 35 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,000 It's machine to silly. Look, you just press yes or no. But suppose 36 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:50,000 my answer is maybe. There is no line between the man 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:55,000 and his work. It's almost as if there are all these other actors in the play 38 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,000 or the movie and then they dropped this real guy in the middle of everything. Can you see him? Yeah. 39 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Are you sure. On stage, he just stole the show, 40 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000 always. I've never seen anyone get more fan mail. The fan mail starts with you changed my life. 41 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,000 We talk about Austin being the most famous unfamous person in the world, but the truth is he is actually quite 42 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,000 famous, because he is famous in the right way, because of merit rather than notoriety. 43 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,000 He seems to have a never ending source of energy. I'm saving your life, 44 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,000 hop in. Everybody knows Austin, whether they met him or not. 45 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,000 He makes the six degrees of separation thing kind of look like ridiculous, because it is more like one or two degrees and that is all I know. 46 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Life is an anecdote, this is really 47 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 one amazing story really. 48 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Hi, AP. 49 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,000 You're looking down there. People still call you AP? 50 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Oh, yes. You can have Cobb salad work again tonight. Oh, God. 51 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,000 You live for this? I do. It could be said. It could be said. Yeah. 52 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Hi there. Yeah, great, great. 53 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Who wants pennies. Yes. 54 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:20,000 [sil.] 55 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Don't tell anyone, but yeah, I gave Rachel a dime. 56 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,000 [sil.] 57 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:35,000 There, Louie. That gives you some idea of my admiration for you. 58 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Okay. I'm gonna sit places. 59 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Great. We'll go back to the same page, please. Hello, hello, my friend. 60 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,000 I've been waiting for long time to see you. Gentleman, you've turned 61 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,000 my study into a tavern again. I've told you all, one and all, 62 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,000 a thousand times. Look at this, vodka is spilled all over my paper scrums. 63 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,000 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. One 64 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,000 thousand one hundred rules. Now you take it with you 65 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,000 today, give it to her with your own hands and you say, Saritha Sarishna 66 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 I hope you choke on it. 67 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Only be careful not to let them know that you got it from me, otherwise. 68 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Otherwise I'll give 69 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,000 them my neck and goose break coutures. What? All right, 70 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 okay. Never mind, 71 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 never mind. We are here with Austin Pendleton, 72 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,000 since making his Broadway debut in the original Fiddler on the Roof, he has 73 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,000 had principal roles in over 30 movies, many TV shows and 74 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,000 countless stage productions. He won an Obie for the 75 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000 The Last Sweet Days of Isaac, did Uncle Vanya with Steppenwolf 76 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Company and Shakespeare of Broadway and appeared in doubles in The Diary of Anne Frank 77 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:15,000 on Broadway. In movie, he was the condemned man 78 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,000 in the 1974 remake of The Front Page. A stuttering 79 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,000 lawyer in My Cousin Vinny, a math professor 80 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,000 in A Beautiful Mind, and a fish in Finding Nemo. He is also 81 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:35,000 a play writer and a director. 82 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:40,000 This is a place call Old John's. 83 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,000 This is the place we are going to eat, this is the place to go to 84 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,000 when you are working at Lincoln Center, and 85 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:55,000 it's killing me. 86 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,000 [sil.] 87 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 I'm thinking of having a Fettuccine Alfredo with chicken, I better not, 88 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:10,000 I'll get fat. The whole curse for actors 89 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:15,000 today was turning out. They can't... they won't see if you don't 90 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,000 have any credits or if you don't have... and you can't get any credits, because they won't see it. 91 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,000 I think it was very harder when I started. I will go to agency and say, 92 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,000 if you submit me into this plan, they would say what have you done. 93 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,000 I would say, well, it is what I played in college and here 94 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,000 are the little parts I've played as a leading star when I was an apprentice. They would say, 95 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,000 you expect us to submit you to Jerome Robbins. 96 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:50,000 One of the two or three great directors of that time. One of the two 97 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,000 or three great directors of the 20th century, you expect us to submit you to Jerome Robbins 98 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,000 for a leading role when you've done a few plays in college. 99 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,000 It was an example of Lord saying, when God wants to punish you, it gives you what you want. 100 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,000 I mean, I got the parts and then I don't know what to do with it. 101 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,000 And because I was having such a trouble doing 102 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:20,000 it eight times a week, I just couldn't do it. And the guy that cast, who is still a 103 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,000 friend of mine said, he used to... I used to take the subway to go around the HB, an audition crew of Uta 104 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:30,000 Hagen. He came and he set way for us. He said 105 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,000 you got this part before you really knew how to act. A whole lot of actors that 106 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,000 I known, have had the pleasure of knowing, they had this 107 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,000 persistence. And sooner or later it starts to happen, but it is sheer 108 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,000 persistence. And 109 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,000 I think I would have exhibited the same persistence, 110 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,000 if I had known that that is what we would be doing, simply because 111 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,000 I didn't know how to do anything else. Once you step outside the 112 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:10,000 narrowest circles of here, I don't know how to do anything, I really don't. 113 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:20,000 [music] 114 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Do you think that 115 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Austin finds himself to be a success? 116 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Okay. So today we're just going to 117 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,000 re-do, right? And then talk about it a little bit. Maybe I would say this 118 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:45,000 before I answer directly, maybe that's been on and off. 119 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:50,000 So you could hear Austin or is it so? This is perfect. Sometimes 120 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:55,000 what the world might see is total fulfillment may not be quite enough. Hello? 121 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Hello? Up here. Who hasn't sat in front of an 122 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Academy Award ceremony, who hasn't in some ways either he said that's 123 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:10,000 all over for me, that will never happen for me, or you might say, why hasn't that happen for me? 124 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Did you think that in beginning... you're going to walk into this... Or you might say, this is going to 125 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:20,000 happen for me. I supposed to start on that movie tomorrow, but I'm starting on Friday 126 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,000 instead. What movie is that? Oh, it's just a little movie, they are paying me $1.75 127 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,000 to do it. What? Is it like an internet movie? No, no, it's a 128 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,000 movie, but you know... So I think it may be more than a $1.75. Well, not 129 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,000 much. I mean, a $100 a day. Are you serious? Oh, 130 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:45,000 whole lot of movies were like that. And then you get a deal on the backend when it becomes a blockbuster. 131 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 But... and what they do to distribute these movies is, they put a DVD 132 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,000 of it in a bottle and put it in the ocean I think, it's you know... It's really 133 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:00,000 cruel to see these... with these fabulous casts and they go straight to the DVD, 134 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,000 it's unbelievable. Yeah. Rebecca is doing a ton of movies like that. Yeah. 135 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,000 I've done a whole lot of those since the mid-90s. I've even won awards for a couple of them. 136 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 But I mean, if those movies had seen the light of day, 137 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,000 we would be conducting this session on my yacht. 138 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Oh, my God, who's sweaters are these? 139 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,000 You can take them if you want. Yeah. I remember being in New York, I don't know what 140 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 I was doing there, because I was rarely there and I was waiting to catch a train 141 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,000 on the subway. And I just ran into Austin. 142 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Of all people, you know, I didn't know anybody in the city and 143 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:55,000 he had... oh, his hair was like this, you know. 144 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:00,000 And he had some crumbs all around here and he had on a women's 145 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,000 sweater backwards, buttoned up the back. And I said, oh, 146 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Austin, where are you off to? And he said, I'm going to a dinner party. 147 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,000 [sil.] 148 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Mr. Austin Pendleton is in the house. Thank you so much for coming by. Thank you 149 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Sissy. I don't want to hold back Austin. Please don't. I can't, can I... Please don't. Can we 150 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,000 relax? Can we have fun. Sure. Yeah. I'm so excited. And you guys probably have so much footage 151 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,000 of people talking about the sexiness of Austin Pendleton. 152 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,000 There were certain women waiting afterwards 153 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:45,000 and we guys go, that's an Austin groupie. I think every single women in the acting 154 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,000 business, in the acting world is in love with Austin. 155 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,000 When we went to see Rosmersholm, there were like five women or something. Or it is less. It seems 156 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,000 like groupies to me. Every women, every time you see, Austin Pendleton is like, Ahh. 157 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,000 He is a sexy motherfucker. 158 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:15,000 [sil.] 159 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Austin, he is part of the fabric of this city. 160 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:25,000 He don't spend very long in the pool of 161 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:30,000 New York Theatre without bumping into him. Every time I go to the 162 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,000 theatre, I swear to God, Austin Pendleton is there. He just ran just to be everywhere. 163 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,000 He is always being approached, not as 164 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,000 a famous person necessarily, but just being approached. Wonderful job. 165 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Oh, thank you. Everybody is kind of just swarms around him. It's so nice to meet you, 166 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:55,000 yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Hi. And if you bump into him, you are meeting this kind 167 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,000 of magical elf. You know, who sends inspiration everywhere. 168 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,000 You want to be in his presence. You want to hear 169 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:10,000 whatever little gems going to fell out of his mouth. My name is Carl Kelsch. 170 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,000 It was a pleasure to see you off tonight. Oh, thank you. He doesn't care about status 171 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,000 or money or if you have an agent or if you don't have an agent. He doesn't care about how famous you were or are. 172 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,000 He will be around somebody who is mega famous person and he will treat 173 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:30,000 them exactly the same as he will to his intern. Oh, yeah. He doesn't have a guarded bone 174 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,000 in his body. And because of that people 175 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,000 gravitate towards him. And let's move very fast through this room, 176 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,000 so we can go quickly to the bar. Okay. So we don't get involved 177 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,000 in fourteen small talk moments. Yes, right. So 178 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,000 here... Hey, David. 179 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Great show. Great show. You are wonderful. He is a magnet for 180 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,000 people's curiosity and people's joy, and people were just thrilled 181 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:10,000 to be with him. So what are you doing? Going down? Have a drink. You are going to have 182 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,000 a drink? Well, I'll have a drink with you. Good. Will you? Sure. 183 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,000 [sil.] The Austin Pendleton project. Oh, that the thing where they are going around 184 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,000 and... Making a movie about you. 185 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Yeah. These... What do you mean that's that thing. Aren't you know that the cameras are following you. 186 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,000 These two guys are so self-effacing. And just when you think documentary filmmakers are 187 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,000 self-effacing, that's when you have to get aware, because that's when they catch you. Well, yeah. I don't like to think about it, 188 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,000 because, you know, it's a... I mean, I'm happy, and who wouldn't 189 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,000 be happy they are doing it. But I don't like to think about it, because you get else... you know... 190 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,000 What do you know about Austin's personal life? 191 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Okay. I don't know anything about his personal life. He is a private person. 192 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:05,000 He has a wife somewhere, does he not? And no one have seen her 193 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,000 that I know. And that means something. We are trying to 194 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 get together with Andrew we were going to shoot, maybe this week, but I think that he got 195 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 busy. And it is... 196 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,000 I hope that's okay with you? Just seeing Andrew. It's too late now. 197 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Turn that off. What's that? It's too late now. 198 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,000 [sil.] 199 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,000 I think it is 200 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,000 downstairs. The first thing I do is go and get 201 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Austin's brunch, I guess you call it, which consist of some soup, 202 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,000 some hand squeezed orange juice, two bananas, 203 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,000 and double espresso and a half sandwich. The other half I eat. 204 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,000 So... Hi. 205 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Hi. So that's the story, right. 206 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,000 What? What's the story. I make the breakfast story. That's true. Every day 207 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,000 of the year. Every Monday. Yeah, I understand. Not every day. That can be 208 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:20,000 misconstrued. I started staying with Austin in 2003 209 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:25,000 and I have taken at least one class a week from him ever since. 210 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,000 I got my equity card in 1967, so I give you some idea of how long I've been doing this, 211 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,000 but I don't think I really became an actor until Austin taught me how. 212 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 Oh, I feel sexy. What I really like about Austin's method of 213 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,000 teaching is that, he is really interested in what we as actors bring to the table. 214 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:50,000 What's wrong with me. I mean we've been fighting this for years. Look, I haven't... I haven't 215 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,000 left you for a hairier person. 216 00:17:55,000 --> 00:18:00,000 Because we like each other. He teaches, gets underneath in a human way 217 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:05,000 and I just have a huge amount of respect for him and that respect makes me work 218 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:10,000 really, really hard. Okay. Good play. 219 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,000 What did you say? I dropped a line. Oh, my God. 220 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Let me take a moment to recover. 221 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,000 I would say, well, if this were on a Broadway stage, it would never 222 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,000 fly. You know, I probably like, especially at the end, but we have to let go. Why? What you said that? 223 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Well, it was just, you know. It's much better than most of us here on the Broadway stage. 224 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:40,000 Wow. [sil.] 225 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,000 Thank you. Thank you. Oh, but in advance. Yeah. Oh, my God. How great. Thank you. 226 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,000 Well I don't know where you live, but I know where you work. Yeah. 227 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Can I just hug you? 228 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,000 Can I just hug you? Okay. Okay. 229 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,000 I don't see you any more. I come home, you are going around some place. 230 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Why do you want to see, you can let somebody 231 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,000 go? What is the matter? You're like him. 232 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,000 No, it's just. I used to come home, you was always there. 233 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Now I turn around and you are a big girl. I don't know how to talk to you anymore. Why? 234 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,000 I don't know, you are running. You are running, Katie. I don't think you are listening anymore to me. Then you should let him. 235 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,000 What's the matter? You don't like him? 236 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Beautiful. 237 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,000 Now, but you tell me why I'm wrong to say that. 238 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,000 I don't know, I always feel unsound 239 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:50,000 and unsure about that the whole scene, most part of it. That's not only part of it, that's the scene. 240 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Yeah, it's upsetting. Yeah. 241 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,000 We go into acting to feel on top of things, right. 242 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 That's the last thing we should feel when we're acting, because no scene ever written 243 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,000 is about somebody on top of things. So the thing is how to use 244 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,000 actively and dynamically and dramatically 245 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,000 the fact that we don't feel on top of it. If we don't feel on top of it means 246 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:25,000 we are in touch with something in the scene. It's so 247 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:30,000 important to learn that. You know, it's a scary place to go for any human being, for me it's... 248 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,000 That's why people write plays about it. 249 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Some of the audience can 250 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:45,000 watch their worst nightmares happen in a controlled situation, 251 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:50,000 a control being that the dialog is written out and all of that. 252 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,000 But the actors have to somehow be in touch with that. 253 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,000 All of us have things inside us that could ambush us at any moment. 254 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,000 And it's when we are... we think we've got everything in 255 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:10,000 hand that we relax our guard and that's when 256 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,000 stuff happens. 257 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Okay. Another class? Ahh ahh. Another class? 258 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Yes. Then I have bad news, next two weeks 259 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:30,000 I'm going to be gone, I've got a movie. I know I've already missed three or four classes, 260 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,000 but I can't turn down this movie. Oh, what you're doing? An indie movie. This one I hope 261 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,000 might possibly one day come out. Generally, they probably go to DVD or 262 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,000 something. So who knows what this one could at least, I don't know. Maybe this one will get seen by somebody, 263 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,000 you know. That too is what show business is about. May be someone will actually see 264 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:55,000 this one. You know, 265 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,000 I'm going to wash my hands. I wash my hands off the whole situation. 266 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Okay. Oh shit. Oh. 267 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Well, no, the soap thing 268 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,000 popped right out of the container. When you push the 269 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,000 soap thing to make the soap come out be very careful, 270 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,000 because it just went boom and on to the floor. Okay 271 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,000 now. You start acting and I work through my food. Okay. 272 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Austin and food is a whole dramatic 273 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,000 experience. The way he eats food is not pleasant, 274 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,000 you and your food around him is not pleasant. It is kind of like, 275 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,000 I don't know, being around a hungry animal. He knows you bring food out that they are going to 276 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,000 be attracted to it and they are ultimately going to come over to you and eat it. 277 00:22:55,000 --> 00:23:00,000 [sil.] 278 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,000 You know, what I almost did, I almost grabbed a piece of bacon of that plate. 279 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,000 I had a physical impulse, as plate just went by 280 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,000 with some chips with bacon on top of it, I had a physical impulse just to reach and take it off 281 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:20,000 and eat it. Like in a restaurant, you know, I walk by a table and there will be 282 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,000 a bunch of French fries, people are eating, and I have to physically restrain myself from reaching 283 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:30,000 and taking a bunch of French fries off of some total stranger's plate. 284 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,000 See, this is weird, this is really weird. This is disorder. 285 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:45,000 [sil.] 286 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,000 They closed Barnes & Noble there. It makes me sad. 287 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,000 I would actually go to Barnes & Noble and sit in the corner and read about theology. 288 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Something it wouldn't happen anywhere else. 289 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:35,000 [sil.] 290 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,000 There will be no room at all on this subway car, so we have to be brutal. 291 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:50,000 [sil.] 292 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Maybe I'm just tired, 293 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,000 you know, it could be just that. 294 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,000 This... I'm tired. I should take it easy for a while. 295 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:10,000 When was the last time you took it easy? 296 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,000 The late 1980's, I remember, I took it easy a little bit, something like that. 297 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:25,000 [sil.] 298 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,000 We have transfers available for the A, C, E, and Kew Garden Meadow. 2, 3, 7, and Port Authority Bus 299 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Terminal. 32 years ago you could cheat me in a scene and some. 300 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Oh my God. 301 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Ladies and gentlemen, there is a... 302 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,000 [sil.] 303 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,000 If it had been something Tennessee Williams and I may 304 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,000 act in it, we will be doing it every weekend, 305 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,000 on Friday's through Monday nights. It's a great show, I love it. 306 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,000 I love it because everyone in it has been one time or another a student 307 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,000 over the years. Yeah. 308 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Some of the best students 309 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,000 that I've ever had. Yeah. Hi there. 310 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Hello. Hi there. Hello. Hi. Hi. Hello. It's the 311 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,000 superstar himself. It's the superstar he is facing. It's the great Austin. 312 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Yeah, that's right. Excuse me. 313 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,000 [sil.] 314 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Who is this? 315 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:55,000 I'm going to shut the door. Sure, this is embarrassing, but we have to, you know. 316 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Well, this could be the section that would sell a movie. But I 317 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,000 didn't close, I wouldn't do the nudity in rehearsal 318 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:10,000 at all, not until the dress of so-called rehearsal, because 319 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,000 we were rehearsing in the basement of a church and right in the next room was a daycare center. 320 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,000 And I just thought some kids going to run around and say, mommy, mommy, 321 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:25,000 the man from The Muppet Movie was naked today in the basement of a church. 322 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Then how was it getting naked on the stage for you. 323 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,000 You guys ready? It was fine. In that play, 324 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:40,000 you express long scenes. And so you just forget 325 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,000 about it. It's really weird. In fact, everyone saw on the middle of... there is a scene where there is 326 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,000 ...there are scenes actually once it happens, where it's never even referring to. And you are in these 327 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,000 intense arguments with people and you suddenly, I forgot to put on my clothes. 328 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,000 How are you? I'm good. I'm still dealing with a little stomach thing, had ulcerative colitis, but it's getting 329 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,000 better now, I'll be back in your class before you know it. I can't wait Yeah, me too. Thank you. 330 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,000 All right. Yeah. We are totally sold out, we are over sold. We have mats out, we have 331 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,000 put all the backstage chairs out, so everyone showed out tonight. 332 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,000 [sil.] 333 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,000 He certainly has this quality of just absolute reality 334 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,000 and authenticity. There is never any actory thing with him. 335 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,000 I've observed a play that he has directed with his students. And what I 336 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,000 noticed in that play was that same quality 337 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,000 of reality that he somehow imparted to his students. 338 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:05,000 It was like it was really happening in front of you. You know, 339 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,000 the artifices are all gone. And I 340 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,000 don't really know how he does that. 341 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:35,000 [sil.] 342 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Hello. 343 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,000 Just went on... like, thank you very much, just want to... so much... 344 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Thank you. We saw, also Ivana... Yeah. We just had a chance to really 345 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,000 talk to you, but it was just wonderful... We talked for a little bit after that, didn't we? You were 346 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,000 surrounded with... No, not that day. I think... No, I just said thank you, but you were surrounded by people and 347 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,000 I'm sure you didn't notice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, yeah. But, it's just brilliant. Thank you so 348 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,000 much. Thank you. Yeah. 349 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,000 I know it was backstage at Sophistry. 350 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,000 It was like, me, Ethan, Steve Zahn, Anthony Rapp and Austin 351 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,000 sharing a dressing room that was about this big. And Austin, 352 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,000 as I recall, he's like, came in, 353 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Austin was there and he sort of standing, my tidy 354 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,000 whitey isn't t-shirt, like, and he just didn't look happy. 355 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,000 Yeah. In the New York Times magazine was this picture of Jeff Bridges, and he said 356 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,000 the most underrated actor in America. Jeff Bridges, America's 357 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,000 most underrated actor, he is on the cover of the New York Times magazine. 358 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,000 I'm sitting here in this shithole and with fucking students. 359 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,000 I'm America's most underrated actor. Fuck Jeff Bridges. This guy gets paid a 360 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,000 million bucks a movie. This guy, you know, goes does... goes to parties with Jane Fonda. 361 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:15,000 The fuck I have been doing the hard work my whole life, I'm the most underrated actor in America. 362 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,000 And this kind of ego came out of him that I had never seen. 363 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,000 It was a completely absurd headline. And 364 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,000 he called that out what it was and it really got under his skin. In a 365 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:35,000 film he'd enjoy to see, because I started to think he was, you know, perfect. 366 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,000 And he was just so enlightened all the time and doing everything for the right reasons 367 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,000 and I was like, "Oh, wow, there is some passion there." You know. 368 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,000 These guys work hard for everything he is. Do you have any separation 369 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,000 between yourself as an artist and any... is there any other? No, I don't. I never had since I was 370 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,000 a kid. I never could imagine anything else. 371 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,000 We are talking on the late 1940's I know what. 372 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,000 And I didn't even know how it was going to happen or anything. 373 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,000 I got the idea of being in theater and by extension 374 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,000 film and so forth, way early on and it was an 8-day fix 375 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,000 and it was complicated by the fact that when I was young I literally couldn't talk. 376 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,000 Come up. Come up and read. 377 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,000 This summer... 378 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,000 I had a real, real serious problem with speech. 379 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,000 It's like these athletes who you find out they were crippled when they were kids or something, 380 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,000 and you just get... it's all about 381 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,000 trying to get free of that, and 382 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,000 you don't want to put energy into anything else. 383 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,000 When he was a little boy he said to his mother, 384 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,000 they are making fun of me, they are making fun of me, telling about 385 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,000 his contemporaries, his fellow students. And she said, so what? 386 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,000 So what? 387 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Well, there is a fiber in that answer, isn't there? What are you thinking? 388 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,000 I wish I were dead. 389 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,000 I don't think you'd give up that easy. 390 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:40,000 So what in the case where a person is sort of asking for sympathy. 391 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,000 And so what is a way of, phew, 392 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,000 going right over that and continuing to live and to function. 393 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,000 And people would say, Austin, about you are being an actor. 394 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,000 I would say, I'll do a lot of workout, and you know. 395 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000 It... I've never... it replaced like everything, 396 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,000 except actual personal relationships in my life. 397 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000 I'm and Austin going to the theater and I said, how the things are going? He said, okay. 398 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000 And he says my 399 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,000 mother is coming to see the show. 400 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,000 A classic example of a stutterer. And what does he 401 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,000 stuttered with the name, I was my 402 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,000 mother. They came to see Austin in everything. 403 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,000 In everything. 404 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000 And very often a drive from Marion, Ohio, they miss 405 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,000 nothing. I know that I've experienced his stutter 406 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,000 when it was worse and when it was not quite so bad. 407 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,000 And I may be reading into this, but the time when it was worse was when his mother came to 408 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,000 see him. My last psychiatrist 409 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,000 told me that stuttering is some conflict between expressing 410 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,000 yourself and holding back, whatever that 411 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,000 means. That would have been enough to stop many people. And he 412 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,000 just continued, just... he just continued to work on it and 413 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,000 find his way, and... It was pretty amazing to see 414 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,000 you would just have a moment with a particular word and... 415 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,000 ...would just choose another word to say. He's always got a little piece of himself 416 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,000 concentrating on will he stutter, will he not... how he'd cope with it, 417 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:55,000 will he put these words together. That's a really scary thing. As an actor, it'd be like, I could 418 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,000 get stuck in hundreds, thousands of people watching me to have that challenge 419 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,000 and be like, fuck it, I'm going to go on stage every night and I don't care. 420 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,000 What kind of actor would I become if I didn't have this problem? 421 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Not so interesting one. 422 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Today, I would say about turning down One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. 423 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,000 He is like so funny, he didn't want to be defined as a stutterer. 424 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Well, now, ladies 425 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,000 and gentlemen of the 426 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,000 jury. 427 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,000 The director of My Cousin Vinny was an old friend of mine and he send me the 428 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,000 script and said, will you do this? I said, is this a sick joke? On January 4th 429 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000 of this year, my 430 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,000 client... And I thought it will be... although it's an exclusive script, it will be a little cult movie, little that 431 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,000 I know would turn into Gone with the Wind. It's like... it's everybody's favorite movie. 432 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:10,000 It's like, you know, to this day. 433 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,000 I've made a hundred movies, this is the one 434 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,000 they are going to remember. And I did it as a favorite of my friend, because he got me drunk. 435 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,000 Coincidental. Thank you. 436 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,000 I went into acting to get away from stuttering. And here I'm going to be remembered 437 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,000 for it, it's like it's a cruel joke. What about everything we talked about? No, I got little nervous. 438 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,000 A little nervous? I'm getting better. A student of mine who is an older women 439 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,000 asked if she could have dinner with me a couple of years ago and she said, I just wanted 440 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,000 to... she had a some... I don't know how anyone ever gets over this. But in the 441 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,000 early '90s, her 13-year-old son, he died 442 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:00,000 in great pain from the brain tumor. She said, when he was dying 443 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,000 and he was in pain he just love to watch My Cousin Vinny 444 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,000 and he loved your scenes. And that's something 445 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,000 in me shifted at that point. I said, you can't... that's fantastic. 446 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Irreplaceable. Yeah. Whatever your own 447 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,000 personal things about our totally evaporate in front of something like that. 448 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,000 It's like, I said, oh, thank you for telling me that. I'm 449 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:35,000 horrifying that that happened and thank you for telling me that. I mean, it's like you 450 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,000 do the work and then it's out of your hands. 451 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,000 Do you get your... do you get pedicures? 452 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,000 No. Beautiful finger nails. Thank you. So clean. And you do it 453 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,000 yourself? Yeah, I do it myself. Oh, multi-talented. 454 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,000 The simplest theory is usually the correct one. The correct theory 455 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000 is that I was thinking too much to function properly and then I had this wild dream, 456 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,000 you were acting me in play about my life, 457 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:15,000 terrible play, and you were terrible because of the booze. A dream to replace 458 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,000 the drink, I think. See, see, it's a proverb ending in ain't, pretty naught thing. 459 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:25,000 It Don't Mean a Thing If It Ain't Got That Swing. If It Ain't Got That Swing. Two Gallants have said 460 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,000 that baby. You know your music. I do. I think you are just exotic. 461 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,000 All right, great. Faith of luck. You are released. 462 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,000 Steven, will you read the man's line from the rehearsal. 463 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,000 Certainly, read this. Austin, Thank you, Austin, that was wonderful, 464 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:50,000 and we'll try to get and tomorrow we change your direction. I was going to ask, did we get 465 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,000 any good commercial? No. We got commercials and it is going to conflict and we can't get up to do the commercials. No one in Los Angeles has 466 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,000 ever even thought of pushing me for anything like a Jessica Lange. 467 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,000 What does that mean in Jessica Lange? That kind of movie where... about real 468 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,000 people and you are not playing some absentminded professor. It's all in the name of science, 469 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,000 Charlie. Definition of being a character actor, one is, you are not the star of the movie. 470 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000 We have very little time, Mr. Larry. Who are you people? You play 471 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,000 something that supports the tech, supports the stars. 472 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Nothing. Nothing. What does that mean? You dressing 473 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,000 him smaller, you get paid less. It is precisely the moment where the mutation or 474 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,000 beast will attempt to kill an unlikeable side character. The film being 475 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,000 a visual medium demands beauty. I'm perfectly sane and sound. 476 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,000 You just have to look certain way, you have to look good enough for people to want to look at you for two hours. 477 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,000 If you don't look satisfying for two hours. Mind is 478 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,000 the true face of vampires. I get all these parts particularly 479 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,000 in TV and stuff like that, playing people who speak scientifically, I never 480 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,000 know what I'm talking about. This is an ABX technocraft. 481 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000 I learn it by wrote. Austin, he is 482 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,000 not being exceptionally good looking, he is not being exceptionally 483 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,000 poetic. Help, I'm stuck, I'm stuck. He is not 484 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,000 being exceptionally heroic. Just come on out. Oh, I can't 485 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,000 my legs are asleep. Those are all virtues. I won't sing and I won't dance. 486 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,000 Don't ask me. There is something about it that pigeon holds us successfully 487 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:45,000 enough, so that when you think of absentminded professor, Austin volley into other people's show. 488 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:50,000 I have almost never been cast as a 489 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:55,000 normal human being, because they are not sure 490 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,000 that it would be believable. 491 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:05,000 [sil.] 492 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,000 I would not be cast as a President of the United States. Get off 493 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,000 my plane. I'll be more likely actually to be elected President 494 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,000 than to be put in the role of President in a film. I don't 495 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,000 think that anybody wants to be a character actor. 496 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Why don't you give me half the money you were going to bet. Then we'll go out back, 497 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,000 I'll kick you in the nuts and we will call it a day. Secretly we all believe 498 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,000 ourselves to be complete human beings. 499 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,000 You know, I'm just trying to survive. You know, I mean, I'm just trying to 500 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,000 earn a living, just trying to pay my rents and my bills. Both Austin 501 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,000 and I whatever part we are given, we are trying like 502 00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,000 lawyers for the characters we play to make a case 503 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,000 for ourselves as complete human beings. 504 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000 Whatever the part, and I've played creatures were not even human, 505 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000 but I'm try to make the case that they are fully 506 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,000 human. Anything else you need, come see me personally. As a character, 507 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,000 you always have their kind of beating the bush and being very happy to accept what you're 508 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,000 given. Curse you AquaScum. His high get the big 509 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,000 box. I still have people who will stop me in front a multiplex 510 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,000 for say maybe two movies I may not playing, they say, do you ever act anymore 511 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,000 and you don't want to say you don't want to get... you don't want to get defensive, 512 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,000 you don't say, right there. 513 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,000 I. What? 514 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000 She can't possibly understand me. She can't possibly understand me. I'm sorry, if you... my head is 515 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,000 spinning. I understand 516 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,000 nothing. Either I'm going along with my old age or 517 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,000 suddenly everyone is becoming more cleverer than... I've been damned to understand any 518 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,000 of it, any of it. In this scene, that the two of you is beautiful, is just beautiful, 519 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,000 the two of you, yeah. What 520 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,000 do you feel? There are times when I feel a little unsteady. Is that okay for you if I used a cane? 521 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Please. Really? Use a walker, if you want, I don't know. Okay. Use a 522 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,000 wheelchair. Okay. Yeah. And there are times when I move my... when I turn or something. Yeah. Don't even make 523 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,000 it an issue. All right. Thank you. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. It couldn't be less important. This floor is too 524 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,000 flat. Yeah, I spoke to them about that. Yeah. All right. Yeah. No, 525 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:55,000 I'm not. I spoke harshly to them, but they would have none of it, what can I say. 526 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,000 Windows is checking for a solution to the problem, 527 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000 see, it just totally fucked the next five minutes of my life. 528 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,000 I was going to just finish out some e-mail. How great. You love... No, I'm 529 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,000 gonna to take a pee, I'm just ...oh god, I can't deal with this. 530 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:20,000 [sil.] 531 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,000 Hey, this... I hope I've the right number, this is for... this is for Daniel Demello. This 532 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,000 is Austin Pendleton. He has my number. 533 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,000 I want him to... I'd love it if you would invite to Small Craft Warnings 534 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,000 John Simon, the critic, and it's really... it's 535 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,000 important to me and I know that... that... I know that John Simon wants to see it and he's of course a great 536 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:50,000 critic. But, thank you very, very much. Okay, bye-bye. 537 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Okay, so that I've done 538 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,000 that and he will hate it probably, John Simon, 539 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,000 but still I don't care. I've sometimes gotten into trouble 540 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:10,000 for being what they call too personal, which in fact was just being too 541 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,000 tough. He didn't enjoy my acting very much, the first Britain play 542 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:20,000 that I had that was done in New York, he said it's got lot of great things and it has 543 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,000 flaws, but we mustn't dwell on the flaws, we must encourage him, Austin Pendleton, as a playwright, 544 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:30,000 anything to keep him off the stage. John Simon's review of Austin 545 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:35,000 and his play where he was playing, you know, and a legend, molester of a student 546 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:40,000 of his, and an alcoholic, it was Austin Pendleton for once well 547 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,000 cast. And my feeling is that if you give a 548 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:50,000 terrible review to somebody, if the person is a real artist, 549 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:55,000 he can live with that, he can transcend that. I get really paranoid 550 00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,000 anywhere about reading reviews. If they are bad, I'm afraid that it might shoot a hole in 551 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,000 what I go out and do every night, but even worse is if they're good because then you try to do 552 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,000 what you just seem described, you know, in a review. The only safe thing to 553 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,000 do is to pretend that critics all is important and maybe they are, 554 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,000 but if you take them very seriously, then you are in the position where 555 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,000 really bad review that you might get, you have to take just as seriously 556 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,000 as the favorable ones and you don't want to do that, that's only human and understandable. I 557 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,000 think you don't want to depend too much on criticism and 558 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:40,000 by saying you don't read it or by actually not reading it, you establish your 559 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:45,000 independence. There 560 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:50,000 is the two of us and a sister who is 561 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,000 five years younger than Austin, four years younger than me. And I think throughout 562 00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,000 our lives, there's been a fundamental compatibility and 563 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:05,000 bond, and that endures today. 564 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,000 Austin had this passion for theater 565 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,000 from a very early age and sort of 566 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,000 swept everybody along with it. So, he started his own 567 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,000 theatre company such as it was in our basement when he was, what, eight years old or ten years old, is what I'm thinking, 568 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,000 and he was put on these extraordinarily, extravagant productions 569 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,000 and then I would get roped into playing parts very 570 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:40,000 badly in those and Austin's whole circle of friends 571 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:45,000 developed around this theatre. And did you expect that he 572 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,000 will be as successful as he is. Oh god, yes, absolutely, no question about it. 573 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,000 I'm kind of disappointed he is not more successful. You're right, 574 00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,000 exactly. We are here. 575 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,000 Welcome. Terry, 576 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,000 hi. Look here, here is our name, THE FRANCES M PENDLETON STAGE. The M is... the 577 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,000 M stand for Manchester. If you need me to turn the stage lights on, 578 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,000 I'll be happy to do that. Sure. Here's the theatre that 579 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,000 they built with their bare hands. It's 580 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,000 a Quonset hut, as you see. It's one of the best theatres I've ever 581 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,000 worked in, just as a theatre, as a place to put on a 582 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,000 play. So this is where you directed your ...I directed... in The Glass Menagerie 583 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:45,000 in 1965, after 584 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,000 my contract in Fiddler on the Roof was up. That was where 585 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,000 Hal Prince had produced Fiddler on the Roof and he said, 'are you going to renew your 586 00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,000 contract?' And I said, why am I in a buying, because I'm now being asked 587 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,000 to go out direct my mom in The Glass Menagerie in Warren, Ohio, at our... the 588 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,000 community theatre she is part of. He said, 'you have to do that'. I said, 'but I don't want to leave 589 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Fiddler on the Roof, it's like leaving this secure place, you know. He said, 'well, I'll 590 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,000 tell you what, I'll make you a deal. You go out and you do that, 591 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,000 and then you can come back into the show. And in... in 592 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,000 the three months or so you're gone, we will have your 593 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,000 understudy play the part. And my understudy was Leonard Frey who then played the part in the movie of 594 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,000 Fiddler and got an Oscar nomination for it and was beloved in 595 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,000 that part. I happened to have that program. Oh, you do. The Glass 596 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:50,000 Menagerie. Yeah, oh my god. Here is how she build herself as an actress, 597 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,000 Mrs. Thorn Pendleton. She 598 00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,000 was this weird mixture of a feminist before her time and a 599 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,000 total non-feminist. 600 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,000 Oh, my god, that's mom. Alec is 601 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,000 this picture is 28 and I'm 30, 31, yeah. We 602 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,000 were late bloomers, yeah. I acted 603 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,000 here too under her direction a few years after that in The Seagull and... What were you in The Seagull? I was Konstantin Treplev. 604 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,000 Katina, my wife was Nina. 605 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:35,000 And also our dad was in a whole lot of productions that our mom 606 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,000 directed. He wasn't in anybody else's productions. I don't think... I don't think he was, no, no, he never did any lines. 607 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,000 Yeah, well, he would have lines, but he would learn them just in 608 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,000 sequence, he didn't know what the cues were. So, whenever there was pause, he would say 609 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:55,000 his next line. So, our mom's productions were known for their electric 610 00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:00,000 pace because people were afraid to take a pause because he would just say his next line. And 611 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,000 then... he would... then he would hear the cue come up in the dialog and he would say his thing. He was actually 612 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,000 pretty good, he was really good and he was in 613 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,000 the production of The Seagull that Katina and I were in and he had a lot of lines in that, 614 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,000 in The Seagull. Did he? Yeah, and he would... there 615 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,000 were scenes where he talks to the actress, the character who is the actress in the play, and you know, Ann Kim 616 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:30,000 Harry, and he would, he would say, 'oh my damn, you're a marvelous actress, you're 617 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,000 the greatest that I... he would turn and rehearse them, say them out to mom and the audience, all 618 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:40,000 those lines, his name was Thorn. She would said, 'Thorn, talk to 619 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:45,000 her, not to me.' 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry', you 620 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:50,000 know. She would say things to me like during The Seagull rehearsals like, 'Austin... this is in front of the whole 621 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,000 cast, 'I'd told these other actors you are a professional', a 622 00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,000 thing... without any evident 623 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:05,000 humor in her voice. But she 624 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:10,000 was also... I mean creating... she was also a whole lot of fun. 625 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,000 She was an extraordinary woman in many ways. And she was very kind to people 626 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,000 and all that, but she had a tart way of speech, wouldn't you say Terry? On occasion, 627 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,000 yes, I would say that. Yeah, yes, she would. And I have to say the results that she got on the 628 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,000 stage... Were electric. From absolute amateur 629 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,000 actors who were in indeed electric. Yeah. They were fine productions. 630 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,000 Okay. 631 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:50,000 [music] 632 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Hi, 633 00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,000 Peg. Hi, Austin, how are you? Just that I have to give him a hug. Good to see 634 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,000 you. Good to see you. This is my friend, Tensin Ascuda. Hi, nice to meet 635 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,000 you. Nice to meet you too. She is an aspiring actress. Oh. And she's gonna sort of hang with you and make sure you're okay 636 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,000 there and then she will bring you to the green room... Okay. At 6 when we're ready for you 637 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,000 and... Excited to be back? Oh, yeah, yeah. [sil.] 638 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Hi. 639 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Hi, guys. Hi. How are 640 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,000 you? Oh my god! I was so glad that you're here. It's so wonderful. Thank you. Watching and following your work for a long time, ever since The Last Sweet Days of Isaac. 641 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,000 Oh my god, 642 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,000 yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I'm Stephanie Corrianno, it's wonderful to have you here on our town. 643 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:50,000 Thank you, Stephanie. Thank you. You're a wonderful actor. What? You're a wonderful character actor, 644 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:55,000 wonderful person, just... follow your work. Thank you. My Cousin Vinny. 645 00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,000 Oh, thank you, thank you. One of my favorites. Thank you, thank you, yeah. 646 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,000 [sil.] 647 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,000 What quality do you think you took from your mother and what quality you think you took from your 648 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,000 father? I really don't know, 649 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,000 because I don't know, they both, as Alec said they were both very energetic, 650 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:25,000 career-driven. They had their issues 651 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,000 as everybody does, but they actually set it both 652 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,000 in two different ways, they try and put over their issues, you know what I mean. 653 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,000 They lived very productive lives 654 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,000 although they were both, you know, they both had 655 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,000 stuff they struggled with. And I think 656 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:55,000 that... I think 657 00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:00,000 that all three of us, that was kind of an inspiration 658 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:05,000 because you can tell they were in trouble, I mean just each of them individually, but they just... I don't know 659 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,000 they carried on. Okay. 660 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:20,000 [sil.] 661 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,000 Hi. There you are. 662 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:30,000 Hi. [sil.] 663 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,000 Oh, my... Yeah, I 664 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,000 know. It's amazing. Yeah. Look here. That was our house. Oh, your house? Yeah, when we lived out there a little... in the early 1950s 665 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,000 and then we moved to Atlantic Street. Okay, alright. Yeah. And this 666 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:50,000 was your living room. Yeah, yeah, right, in... out in the country. 667 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:55,000 Yeah. Yeah. As far as I ever got was the front of the... front door, I never got inside. Yeah. 668 00:56:55,000 --> 00:57:00,000 I've a major problem at home. My mom, she has MS 669 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,000 and she is bedridden. And my dad, he is 670 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,000 taking care of her. He is a nurse's aid and he has no income right 671 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,000 now. Wow. So, I'm just trying to... helping my mom 672 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,000 every day, you know. Oh, yeah. And I don't really have much of a life 673 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,000 ...I've been 674 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:30,000 living a lie basically... How do you mean? There's nothing inside, 675 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:35,000 I need something to bring me back to life. Yeah, 676 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:40,000 like what? An actor. 677 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:45,000 Yeah. I love acting. Would you be free to go out and work with TNT? You have to start 678 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,000 somewhere. Right. And this group is really good, really good. That's 679 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:55,000 where I started, you know. I can introduce you to 680 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,000 somebody here. Yeah, yes sir. Okay, let's see 681 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,000 Terry Gilbert is whom I'm looking to introduce you. Terry, 682 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:10,000 talk to this young man. Hi. 683 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:15,000 I got a 684 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,000 terrible review in The New York Times for Yahgo where the whole first 685 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,000 half of the review was about me and then the other half said, 'on the other hand, there 686 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,000 are some good things'. It happened that my mom was at the performance that night 687 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,000 on the evening of the day the review came out. 688 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,000 And my cousin came to see it with her and my cousin told me afterward 689 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:45,000 that... that she and my mom were in their seats after the performance and they 690 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:50,000 were going to wait for me to come up. And some person past them 691 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:55,000 and wasn't aware that she was my mom and he said to whoever he was with, 692 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,000 'God, the Times was right, Austin Pendleton is terrible.' And 693 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,000 my mom said, 'just a moment', and she never revealed she was my 694 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:10,000 mom. She just said, 'you don't know what you are talking about'. 695 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:20,000 [music] 696 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,000 Is there any food? 697 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:30,000 Anywhere? Do you have any food laid out, anywhere? Let me get some food for 698 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,000 you. Yeah, 699 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,000 okay. 700 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,000 I'm going to take a shower. And I'll wait. 701 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,000 Yeah, hi. 702 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,000 Hi. Excuse me. Hi. Hi. How is it going? 703 00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,000 Did you have a good flight? Well, it was eventful, let's put it that way. You're here now, that explains enough. 704 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,000 Yeah, right. Hey, Sean. 705 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,000 Yeah. Yeah. I haven't been in here 706 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:15,000 since I acted it here as 707 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,000 Yahgo in 1997. Wait, 708 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:25,000 this doesn't make any sense that it would be 709 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,000 dark down there. I am now retracing my steps. You 710 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,000 know, it's up this 711 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,000 way, this way. I think what they have 712 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,000 done up here is a... is a homeless shelter. 713 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:50,000 [sil.] 714 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:55,000 Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no 715 01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:00,000 shit. I can't... oh 716 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:05,000 no, oh, this is terrible. Let's see. 717 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,000 Maybe you should ask someone in there. Hello? Yeah. 718 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,000 [sil.] 719 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,000 Oh, this is bad news 720 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:25,000 here. 721 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,000 This is a very small plane. 722 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,000 oh yeah. 723 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:45,000 [sil.] 724 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:50,000 There. I'm a new man. I'm a new man. (inaudible) 725 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,000 . [sil.] 726 01:01:55,000 --> 01:02:00,000 One of the things that separates Austin from everybody else is his 727 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,000 incredible inability to give into bitterness. 728 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:10,000 He once told me as something that Joseph Pappa told him that, 729 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,000 how you most easily define success is by how you handle your disappointments. And 730 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:20,000 Austin has handled his disappointments in his life with 731 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:25,000 tremendous grace. 732 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:30,000 [music] 733 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,000 He went through a period in New York where it was very, very difficult for him. It's as if 734 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:40,000 the critics did not want him. They wanted him to stay in 735 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:45,000 a box, they wanted him to play only certain parts. And 736 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:50,000 anytime he try to do something else, they would just land on him like a ton of bricks, and 737 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,000 what did he do, he just went wherever people will let him play the great parts. 738 01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:00,000 He will act in the things you don't even know where he is, like he says, like... I know he's 739 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:05,000 only in some place, somewhere, whether it's Broadway or 99C House or someone's house. 740 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:10,000 Austin, what's with that cup? It's a cup that somebody gave and whenever 741 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:15,000 I go into a coffee bar and I get espresso or anything, I just pour it in here, well, like 742 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,000 just now, I love it. It's things from Alice in Wonderland, somebody gave it for me. Really? 743 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,000 In this business you go through a lot of downs that are... that 744 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,000 seem to be definitive, that seem to be like, 'forget it, 745 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:35,000 that's it'. And so, you have to develop 746 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:40,000 a way of looking at things that can 747 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:45,000 get you through that. When my carrier 748 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:50,000 kind of collapsed in the late '70s, I started to get offering these 749 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,000 great parts in showcases like in the place where you got tonight. I started to being 750 01:03:55,000 --> 01:04:00,000 asked to do these great classical roles. I used to be 751 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,000 told, 'don't ever do a showcase, it makes it ...it makes you look bad. The fact that you've 752 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:10,000 done it, that fact that you will freely do it'. In the world we all came up in, in 753 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,000 the '70s, theater was a religion, but how you made 754 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,000 it was your mission. Austin never lost the mission. It's 755 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:25,000 not a work ethic, it's a work necessity. If you do a showcase, 756 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:30,000 somebody is going to see it. That's the only thing 757 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:35,000 that will get you through all this, that that's the only thing that could be important. And 758 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:40,000 if you say, 'well, I'll harder on this because it's more hope, high profile 759 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,000 than I work on this', then... then you have already begun to throw it away. 760 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:50,000 You've thrown away the one thing that's the only 761 01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:55,000 thing that's ever going to get you through. I've been 762 01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,000 in a whole lot of movies that no one has ever seen, 763 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:05,000 just to pick up a little cash, just so that I could then go back and be in 764 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,000 some more of these showcases. Very important people 765 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:15,000 to me early in the work, important teachers, important people I knew kept saying, 'it's 766 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:20,000 about the work, it's 767 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:25,000 not about anything else'. 768 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:30,000 You know what, I have to go, I've to go and sleep. 769 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,000 Good night. 770 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,000 Are you going to the opening 771 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,000 night? I guess there's a party or something like that, after a few minutes, I hate 772 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,000 those things. Yeah. Everybody is looking at their phones, wondering what the reviews are, I just hate it. I really don't believe it 773 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,000 but 774 01:05:55,000 --> 01:06:00,000 you know, I cannot show up. That's our first song 775 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,000 in that show. 776 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:20,000 [sil.] 777 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:25,000 It was fantastic. Yeah, enjoyed it. Thumbs 778 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:30,000 up. Thank you. [sil.] 779 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:35,000 Hi, Josh. 780 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:40,000 Congratulations. Thank you. I hope you've been okay. Having a great evening. Oh my god, wait, food. 781 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:45,000 I need to give you a huge 782 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:50,000 hug. Where... is that wine or... You want a sip of my champagne. Where is the champagne? 783 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,000 Let's get you some. Yes. Congratulations, can we get you to do some photographs on the other side. Sure, sure. Somebody is 784 01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:00,000 getting you a glass of champagne. That's all I need, yeah. We will bring it to you. Take one 785 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,000 just together. I've to be in the picture with him? Yes. I thought my... I thought they had read my contract right, no; no. 786 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:15,000 [music] 787 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,000 Thank you. Oh, wait. Oh, thank you. 788 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:25,000 [music] 789 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:30,000 The quintessence of Pendleton. I guess we will hear the reviews. 790 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,000 Does the Times come out tonight? Oh yeah, the Times will be up within an hour or so. 791 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:40,000 How will this party find out about it? Some person 792 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:45,000 will look on their phone. And then people will start avoiding us. Yeah. There 793 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:50,000 is the moment at the party when everybody is looking at each other strangely. 794 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:55,000 Well, sometimes you don't really care, even if it's show you love, sometimes 795 01:07:55,000 --> 01:08:00,000 you just say, 'well, whatever' and other times you get nervous. It's been like that all the way along. We 796 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,000 worked so hard on it for three years, you know. What are your... what's your hunch? 797 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:10,000 I've learned long ago not to have a hunch, you just don't ever know. 798 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,000 Thank you, Jack. Nobody forces you to go into this business, so 799 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:20,000 you can't even complain, you know they didn't tell me there would be critics, you can't say that. [sil.] 800 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:25,000 Yeah. 801 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,000 Austin is the most famous guy right now. He doesn't know, he doesn't remember, 30 years 802 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:35,000 ago, April 19, when I interviewed you at the Little 803 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:40,000 Foxy, I told him he was going to be the most famous director in the world as he directed 804 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:45,000 Elizabeth Taylor for the first time she ever stepped on stage. I'm so drunk 805 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:50,000 and happy, I'm just going to go. Okay, bye. Bye. 806 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:55,000 You're the best part of this whole thing. Oh, 807 01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:00,000 thank you. Thank you so much. It's good. What's good? The New Times, it's up and it's good. What? It's good? What? What? What? Yes, 808 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:05,000 I've just been told, I haven't read it, I've just been told. Small stirrings of the heart and mind 809 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:10,000 evoke delicate musical responses in A Minister's Wife 810 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,000 who lovingly composed chamber musical that opened on Sunday night at the Mitzi E. Newhouse Theater 811 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:20,000 at Lincoln Center. The musical moves with a gentle step keeping 812 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:25,000 an intimate focus on its central characters as they circle one another in a cozy 813 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:30,000 London study that becomes the site of a well-mannered moral 814 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:35,000 and intellectual boxing match, conceived and directed by Michael Halberstam 815 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,000 and Austin Pendleton wrote the smartly condensed book, the creators of A Minster's Wife 816 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:45,000 are aiming for something closer to the original. Congratulations to you guys, you guys need to. 817 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:50,000 What did you get? We got Aces, but the 818 01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,000 crapshoots, don't take it seriously. 819 01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:00,000 That's true, but still I can see it your eyes. But still it's nice, it's very nice. Alright. 820 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,000 Don't, be careful. Always be careful. Yeah. You never know. Because 821 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:10,000 the next time out, he won't like what you do. Who knows that if there would be a next time. Yeah, right. 822 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:15,000 Yeah right, I know. Correctly they say to me right now is, 'fuck the next time'. They 823 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,000 either get what you are trying to do 824 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,000 or they don't, and that's the life in show business. Welcome to our career. Thank you. 825 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:30,000 It has its ups, it has its downs. You're right. Ladies and gentlemen, we are 826 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,000 back please, we are back and we are at the top of act four, top of act four, 827 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:40,000 please. Thank you. Okay, 828 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,000 stand by, upright, go. 829 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,000 Listen carefully and with all due respect 830 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,000 of course and you, the mademoiselle demands attention 831 01:10:55,000 --> 01:11:00,000 with your intelligence and compassion 832 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:05,000 doesn't even understand her own father. 833 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:10,000 I've been an actor for, I mean, say, and I don't remember, almost 834 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:15,000 55 years. Put a wick in your mouth, light it 835 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:20,000 and go breathe fire on everyone. During a lot of those 50 836 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:25,000 years, I've worked with him frequently, acted with him, directed him. He is 837 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:30,000 almost 90, but he was still I thought at the peak of his form. I 838 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:35,000 just came off a knee operation. I just want to, let's see. In other words I 839 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,000 was saying, take it day by day by day. And then one day in rehearsal 840 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:45,000 I was sitting and Ethan Hawke comes behind me and I turn the greet him and 841 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:50,000 I fell. Hello. Oh! Oh, Jesus Christ! Too much vodka? 842 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:55,000 Too much vodka. And everybody went, 843 01:11:55,000 --> 01:12:00,000 oh my god, oh he fell. How are you? I'm okay, no, I 844 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:05,000 didn't hurt myself, it was just... it was the funny way I turned, that's all, yeah. Story of my life. No, 845 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:10,000 she isn't. Characters in the play need to... We started talking about 846 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:15,000 my balance was not that good. 847 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:20,000 So, they just... we will get you a wheelchair and I felt uncomfortable 848 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:25,000 wheeling myself around the stage. So I said to myself, 'what 849 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:30,000 am I trying to prove?' So I told Austin this, 850 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:35,000 look, I don't think I could go on with the show. 851 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:40,000 He said, I don't think you are going to believe this, but I don't want to be in the show. I said no, 852 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:45,000 I don't believe it because you are fucking brilliant. And we get emails, 853 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:50,000 'I saw this show tonight, this guy was magnificent'. 854 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:55,000 He just gets to the heart of things. Never seen servant died, 855 01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:00,000 suddenly for some reason he wants to marry you, oh... never mind, 856 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:05,000 never mind, I'm just an old crow, that's what I 857 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:10,000 am, I am... Who is going to do it? I said, well, they want me to 858 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,000 go and do it, but I'll tell you why I'm going into it. If I... if you change your 859 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:20,000 mind in a couple of weeks and I'm doing it, all you have to do is 860 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,000 lift the phone and you will come back again. When I talked to Austin about it, he says, if 861 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:30,000 for some reason after you leave the show 862 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:35,000 and you think about it and you want to come back, you're welcome, and 863 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:40,000 I said no, no, no, no. 864 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:45,000 My head is spinning, I am so confused, dare hell with you, no, 865 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:50,000 I don't like it, I don't like any of it. And he has told, now it's over, I'll act in film 866 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:55,000 and TV, but not in theater, I'm going to get him back. The fair Ophelia, O treble woe. 867 01:13:55,000 --> 01:14:00,000 Hold off the earth awhile. 868 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,000 Till I have once more caught her 869 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,000 in my arms. What is he, whose 870 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:15,000 grief bears such an emphasis. This is I, Hamlet the Dane. 871 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:20,000 I'd made two movies with Phil, one of them is the Fifteen Minute Hamlet. Phil is 872 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:25,000 sublime in that 873 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:30,000 movie. Austin gave me my first two jobs out of college 874 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:35,000 which were probably two of the most significant jobs I've had till now. Our audition for him for the Williamstown, 875 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:40,000 a non-equity company, 876 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,000 I had to give two speeches on contemporary and a classical and I tore my pants. I went 877 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:50,000 to sit down in a chair, very much like this chair and my pocket caught on my... caught 878 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:55,000 on that arm of the chair and like tore it significantly, like it's eight inch opening gap 879 01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:00,000 in the side of my pants and I thought, oh god, that's a disaster. His 880 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,000 contemporary piece was the final speech of Tom's from The Glass Menagerie 881 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:10,000 and of course one has heard that speech 400 times. Phil did it, 882 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:15,000 it sounded like he was making it up, it sounded like no one 883 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:20,000 else had ever said this. Right from the get go, meeting him in that audition, there was no 884 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:25,000 preconceptions or judgments or biases, it felt like, it felt like he was just kind 885 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:30,000 of accepting me and my terms. For a while he was... he 886 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:35,000 told that to interviewers and they would... and they would call me up. 887 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:40,000 They would say who? Yeah, right, yeah right. They'd say, did Phil, there was a crazy actor and he was attributing his 888 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:45,000 career to you. And that's Philip Seymour Hoffman is... and 889 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,000 I would say this sounds like, aw, shucks or something, but it's just the truth. 890 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:55,000 I would say to them... I was the only one in the room when he auditioned. 891 01:15:55,000 --> 01:16:00,000 I would say anyone who is in that room who didn't pick him 892 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:05,000 truly does not belong in the business. I damn remember really thinking like, I think 893 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:10,000 I might get this job and it wasn't because I thought I like nailed the audition 894 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:15,000 or anything like that, I thought I... did something happen in that room, that was quite positive to me, and if I didn't 895 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:20,000 get that job, I felt like I think I'm going to meet that guy again. And so, I 896 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:25,000 would... it's not about my talent or about what I do. I think it's about 897 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:30,000 how people think, you know, what people want to see and how they work. 898 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:35,000 Because I went through something when I was so young, at a time 899 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:40,000 I was so scared and so anxious, and so full of fear 900 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:45,000 and I walked into a room and he was sitting there and he gave me comfort. 901 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:50,000 [music] 902 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:55,000 Do you think about 903 01:16:55,000 --> 01:17:00,000 your legacy? No. I think of trying to be bad 904 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:05,000 as infrequently as possible. You know, I'm famous 905 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:10,000 in... to a lot of people as that guy. He's an actor. Thank you. What? Oh, you're an actor? 906 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:15,000 There is... there's one school of thought, 907 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:20,000 yeah, right, yeah right. I've seen your movies. Thank you. Thank you. 908 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:25,000 Yeah. You asked about a legacy, you 909 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:30,000 want to leave behind you as little carnage as possible. 910 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,000 Is it three? Yes. I would get very freaked out if any kind of search 911 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:40,000 light would turn on the life of myself and the lives of people who are close to 912 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,000 me, I really would. If people are watching you 913 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:50,000 do your work, either your direction or your acting or whatever plays you 914 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:55,000 write, whatever, even your teaching, and they are not only watching what you're doing, they are 915 01:17:55,000 --> 01:18:00,000 computing things they know about your life, 916 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:05,000 I think that's too bad. Has 917 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:10,000 my daughter showed up? I don't think she has, actually. 918 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:15,000 Hey, how are you John? Good to see you. 919 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:20,000 Is Austin successful depends on what you mean by success and 920 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:25,000 in this culture unfortunately people mean famous by success. 921 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:30,000 Success is a really interesting concept which, you know, all of us wrestle with in some fashion 922 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:35,000 or other. I need a cell phone, I have to call my daughter. Thank you. 923 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:40,000 To the large public, he may not be well-known, well, I'm not sure that he cares about that. 924 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,000 I don't think he is an overwhelming success, but I don't think he will need to be an overwhelming 925 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:50,000 success. There is no quote making it, because if there was a quote making it he would have made it seven or eight 926 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:55,000 times already. Whatever I've managed to accomplish or figure out, that 927 01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:00,000 little bit has been through the result of Austin Pendleton's teaching and I'm 928 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:05,000 not the only person in this country or the world who will 929 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:10,000 tell you that. No, I'm looking for my daughter. When it comes 930 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:15,000 to art and when it comes to theater, he knows that that's where his life is. 931 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:20,000 I just think he is going where the work is. My experience of Austin Pendleton 932 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:25,000 comes way before he ever knew where I was. I was in college. I was assigned Oh Dad, Poor Dad, 933 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:30,000 which I could not figure out what the fuck the sign 934 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:35,000 was and I remember going to the front and 935 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:40,000 going, who plays this part, and it is Austin Pendleton. I am like, Austin 936 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,000 Pendleton, Austin Pendleton. My next six soldier 937 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:50,000 was I got into (inaudible) 938 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:55,000 then I was like, who's this sound? Austin Pendleton. 939 01:19:55,000 --> 01:20:00,000 I started noticing this weird thread developing about Austin Pendleton. So 940 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,000 then my wife was offered Uncle Vanya 941 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:10,000 and said I decided Austin Pendleton is directing it. 942 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:15,000 Not only did he have to do that, I was like, I have to 943 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:20,000 be in that with you like desperately, desperately. I was like everything's going to come together. It seemed 944 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,000 to be like a thing I never have told 945 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,000 Austin about any of this (inaudible) 946 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,000 on direction and... He's just a very brilliant, 947 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:35,000 colorful, kind, patient person. Growing up, he would 948 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:40,000 say, 'figure out what you love and the rest will fall into place'. I hoped that will unsettle me and I am 949 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:45,000 still teaching medical students and residents and assessing patients and I'm still you know contributing something to both 950 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:50,000 the field and the people of my life and if I could add any fraction of the impact he's had, that 951 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:55,000 to me is being successful. Ladies and gentlemen, Austin Pendleton. 952 01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:05,000 [music] 953 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:10,000 Okay, that's doesn't 954 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,000 mean I'm going to start at the beginning of my career and go all the way through it, but that 955 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,000 reminded me of a moment, when I was in Oh Dad, I got this extraordinary role in this play. 956 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,000 Three months after I came to New York through a series of kindly 957 01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:30,000 flukes, the only factor that had been left out 958 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:35,000 of this whole equation was that I did not yet know how to act. I had no 959 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,000 real training, about a month into 960 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:45,000 the run, I just began to unravel. I must state, it wasn't just my 961 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:50,000 imagination. I began to actually unravel people, people would mention it. 962 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:55,000 So, financier Jerry, he 963 01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:00,000 hadn't seen it a few weeks. I said, Jerry, you probably don't understand how terrible I am. He said, oh, yes, 964 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:05,000 I do, I read the performance reports, 965 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:10,000 I know, I know. So, I should... I 966 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:15,000 am going to leave. He said, I don't want that. If you quit 967 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:20,000 this show, you won't ever act again. First of all, you'd be too afraid to ever act again, and 968 01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,000 secondly, of course we will get out if you quit this show because you just couldn't handle it, you won't ever 969 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:30,000 act again. So, I can't make you stay, 970 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,000 but I want you to be an actor all your life. 971 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:40,000 So I stay... I said, what should I do? He says, you work it out. 972 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:45,000 And so, Peter's whole 973 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:50,000 sensation to being impressed with me when he saw, saw my name in the cast list that the original 974 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:55,000 location was based on sand. 975 01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:00,000 Peter spend all his time being intimidated 976 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:05,000 by something that didn't exist 977 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:10,000 and... but also that story moves me, 978 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:15,000 it moves me because of Jerry Robbins. The result of that, 979 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:20,000 that early evening chat one spring in 1962 980 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:25,000 was that here I'm and here I'm having been to 981 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,000 work with all these wonderful people. So, actually I'm thinking everybody. Thank you. 982 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:45,000 [music] 983 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:50,000 This happens, it doesn't 984 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:55,000 ever happened in the program where we dream up that we do this and then the door 985 01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:00,000 opens because of that to this and then we got a good review here, so that leads to that, 986 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:05,000 and then you know once singular sensation 987 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:10,000 you know, it hardly ever happens like that and if it does, if all falls 988 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:15,000 apart at some point. Oh, shut up. 989 01:24:20,000 --> 01:26:50,000 [music] 93945

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