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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,366 - Police are saying 2 00:00:02,466 --> 00:00:04,700 multimillionaire NFL player 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,733 - Ready! 4 00:00:05,833 --> 00:00:08,466 - Love triangle, murder for profit? 5 00:00:08,566 --> 00:00:09,466 - Set! 6 00:00:09,566 --> 00:00:11,000 - And he did it at the behest 7 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:12,733 of a woman who wanted money. 8 00:00:12,833 --> 00:00:13,733 - Hut! 9 00:00:13,866 --> 00:00:15,233 [dramatic music] 10 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:18,000 - She found this, you know, hunky, muscular boy toy, 11 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:19,033 and they were out there looking 12 00:00:19,133 --> 00:00:20,566 at million dollar homes, 13 00:00:20,666 --> 00:00:22,533 but neither of them had a legitimate source 14 00:00:22,633 --> 00:00:23,533 for that money. 15 00:00:23,633 --> 00:00:25,100 - Meanwhile, his girlfriend 16 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,533 that he thinks he's gonna marry 17 00:00:26,633 --> 00:00:28,300 clearly doesn't know she's engaged. 18 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,300 - The only way that she's gonna get away with that 19 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,665 is if her fiancé is not alive. 20 00:00:32,766 --> 00:00:35,733 - You will never, ever find any reason to think 21 00:00:35,833 --> 00:00:37,800 that I had any motive to kill this girl. 22 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:40,000 - The OJ murder was a crime of passion. 23 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:42,133 This was cold and calculated. 24 00:00:42,233 --> 00:00:44,500 - The entirety of the prosecution's case 25 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,066 was built on circumstantial evidence. 26 00:00:46,166 --> 00:00:48,033 How can anybody say definitively 27 00:00:48,133 --> 00:00:49,666 that he pulled the trigger? 28 00:00:49,766 --> 00:00:52,533 - Police are saying, is that why he was a good linebacker, 29 00:00:52,633 --> 00:00:54,100 because he's a violent guy? 30 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,900 - No, I'm not a bad guy. 31 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,200 I just have a slightly different 32 00:00:57,300 --> 00:00:58,833 interpretation of the law. 33 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:02,833 - ♪ Ching-ching, you got the bling-bling ♪ 34 00:01:02,933 --> 00:01:04,465 ♪ Who needs money? ♪ 35 00:01:04,566 --> 00:01:06,033 ♪ Come on, you need money ♪ 36 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:07,400 ♪ Come on, show me the money ♪ 37 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:09,233 ♪ But I never let it take me away ♪ 38 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:11,733 ♪ 'Cause you a star, you drive a car ♪ 39 00:01:11,833 --> 00:01:13,200 ♪ Got the latest fashions and trends ♪ 40 00:01:13,300 --> 00:01:15,433 ♪ But tell me who you are ♪ 41 00:01:15,533 --> 00:01:17,933 [hip-hip music] 42 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:23,333 [tense music] 43 00:01:23,433 --> 00:01:25,765 - My name is Eric Naposki. 44 00:01:25,866 --> 00:01:29,533 In 2011, I was convicted of a crime 45 00:01:29,633 --> 00:01:34,066 that occurred in 1994, 46 00:01:34,166 --> 00:01:36,265 a crime that I did not commit, 47 00:01:36,366 --> 00:01:40,566 as I enter a 14th year of incarceration. 48 00:01:41,966 --> 00:01:45,433 I'm in the process of finding the truth, 49 00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:49,700 clearing my name, and going home to my family. 50 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,400 - My name is Michael Cohen, and I'm a sports journalist. 51 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:55,566 I was working on a story about Eric Naposki 52 00:01:55,666 --> 00:01:57,500 for "Sports Illustrated." 53 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,366 Well, there were all these interesting parallels 54 00:01:59,466 --> 00:02:01,800 between Eric Naposki and Aaron Hernandez. 55 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:04,466 They were both football players in Connecticut 56 00:02:04,566 --> 00:02:05,866 spending time there. 57 00:02:05,966 --> 00:02:07,433 And then they both played for the Patriots, 58 00:02:07,533 --> 00:02:09,066 which was a huge tie in. 59 00:02:09,166 --> 00:02:11,900 And then both of them ended up getting convicted of murder. 60 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,833 So I reached out to Eric and said, 61 00:02:13,933 --> 00:02:15,066 "Hey, I'm from Connecticut. 62 00:02:15,166 --> 00:02:16,566 "I know you have ties to Connecticut. 63 00:02:16,666 --> 00:02:19,633 "I'd like to write a story that examines from your side 64 00:02:19,733 --> 00:02:21,966 and from the prosecution's side." 65 00:02:22,066 --> 00:02:24,333 And he sent me over a hundred written pages 66 00:02:24,433 --> 00:02:27,033 of letters outlining his life. 67 00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:28,900 There was a fairy tale element to it, 68 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,466 a naivety to it, 69 00:02:30,566 --> 00:02:32,133 where everything was kind of viewed 70 00:02:32,233 --> 00:02:35,333 through rose tinted glasses, almost Disney-like. 71 00:02:35,433 --> 00:02:38,333 [upbeat hip-hop music] 72 00:02:38,433 --> 00:02:45,433 ♪ ♪ 73 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,733 - You know, growing up in the Bronx at a young age, 74 00:02:49,833 --> 00:02:51,000 I would go out, and there would be 75 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:53,766 a few hundred kids in the playground. 76 00:02:53,866 --> 00:02:56,066 And I would be exposed to older kids 77 00:02:56,166 --> 00:02:57,666 running and tackling, 78 00:02:57,766 --> 00:02:59,666 and we were roughhousing from the day I was 79 00:02:59,766 --> 00:03:01,400 in the park at six years old. 80 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:02,666 I was a roughhouser. 81 00:03:02,766 --> 00:03:05,666 But as soon as I saw football, I knew-- 82 00:03:05,766 --> 00:03:07,300 I'm like, I have to do that. 83 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,100 - Football introduced him to some 84 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,700 of the strong male figures that he didn't necessarily have 85 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,466 as a very young child. 86 00:03:14,566 --> 00:03:16,566 - I'm Ron Santavicca. 87 00:03:16,666 --> 00:03:18,100 I'm a high school football coach. 88 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,133 I've coached football for 47 years, 89 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:25,166 and I was Eric's high school coach back in the '80s. 90 00:03:25,266 --> 00:03:28,366 He was very nice. He was a compassionate kid. 91 00:03:28,466 --> 00:03:31,166 He was enthusiastic about playing. 92 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:33,900 And to be a tackler, you have to have 93 00:03:33,966 --> 00:03:37,166 a little loose screw at some place, like I know I did. 94 00:03:37,266 --> 00:03:38,900 - Football is an ultimate test 95 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,866 of who you are as an individual. 96 00:03:40,966 --> 00:03:42,966 You can show what you're about without getting in trouble. 97 00:03:43,066 --> 00:03:44,166 Right? 98 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:45,466 You take a person to the ground 99 00:03:45,566 --> 00:03:47,933 or hit them hard and get a pat on the back. 100 00:03:48,033 --> 00:03:51,133 - It's an innate ability, something inside 101 00:03:51,233 --> 00:03:53,066 that wants you to be aggressive, 102 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:57,033 to tackle your opponent, to make a play. 103 00:03:57,133 --> 00:04:01,000 That's the relentlessness he had. 104 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:05,866 - As a football player, as you go further in the game, 105 00:04:05,966 --> 00:04:09,066 the speed, and the physicality, and the violence of the game 106 00:04:09,166 --> 00:04:10,833 starts to weed people out. 107 00:04:10,933 --> 00:04:13,500 - So he practiced more than most people did. 108 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,100 He ended up being the strongest. 109 00:04:17,132 --> 00:04:19,233 His gym discipline, his workout discipline, 110 00:04:19,332 --> 00:04:21,632 really had him stand out for the NFL. 111 00:04:21,733 --> 00:04:23,332 - Is he gonna be able to take the next step 112 00:04:23,433 --> 00:04:26,133 in his willingness to endure the physical pain of going 113 00:04:26,233 --> 00:04:28,300 against bigger, and stronger, and tougher players? 114 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,666 - He had it in his head that that was gonna happen, 115 00:04:31,766 --> 00:04:33,233 and he made it happen. 116 00:04:33,332 --> 00:04:34,800 - I got an agent. 117 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:36,900 And when I went to the trial camp in New England, 118 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,466 they offered me a contract, and I took it. 119 00:04:39,566 --> 00:04:42,866 [chuckles] No questions asked. 120 00:04:42,966 --> 00:04:45,000 In order to prove myself, 121 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:47,600 I had to do it on special teams. 122 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:51,166 And special teams are built for athletic people 123 00:04:51,266 --> 00:04:53,900 who like to hit, who like to make tackles, right? 124 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,633 It's an aggressive position. 125 00:04:55,733 --> 00:04:59,300 - If you are a core special teams guy, 126 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,366 the physical velocity of the collisions 127 00:05:02,466 --> 00:05:04,000 are just so violent. 128 00:05:04,100 --> 00:05:06,000 - Oh, he gets blasted! 129 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:08,366 - Go get your Vespa and put a helmet on. 130 00:05:08,466 --> 00:05:11,566 Go to about 20, 25 miles an hour 131 00:05:11,666 --> 00:05:14,000 directly into the wall you're standing in front of. 132 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:16,832 And do it 80 times in a row. 133 00:05:16,933 --> 00:05:18,666 - When you play as long as I played, 134 00:05:18,766 --> 00:05:20,233 there's certainly gonna be some 135 00:05:20,332 --> 00:05:23,166 incredibly violent collisions that you were a part of. 136 00:05:23,266 --> 00:05:26,766 - Sam Morris, good penetration. 137 00:05:26,866 --> 00:05:29,600 - It felt like my brain had left my skull. 138 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:32,332 My teammate, who I hit, he broke his neck, 139 00:05:32,433 --> 00:05:35,533 and was in a halo for two months after that hit. 140 00:05:35,633 --> 00:05:37,400 And even being knocked out cold, 141 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:40,200 I'm gonna find a way to get back into the game. 142 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:42,733 - Eric romanticized in his letters 143 00:05:42,832 --> 00:05:44,466 how he would take pride in injuring 144 00:05:44,566 --> 00:05:46,533 an opponent's star player with such a big hit 145 00:05:46,633 --> 00:05:48,400 to knock a star player out of the game. 146 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:50,400 - And I did a lot of getting hurt. 147 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:52,832 [dramatic music] 148 00:05:52,933 --> 00:05:54,133 - You good, bro? 149 00:05:54,233 --> 00:05:56,000 - Eric expressed to me that he suffered 150 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:58,666 between 10 and 20 concussions on the football field 151 00:05:58,766 --> 00:05:59,933 and continued to play. 152 00:06:00,033 --> 00:06:02,200 - You know, I was making my body do things 153 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:04,433 that it might not have been born to do, 154 00:06:04,533 --> 00:06:06,266 but that my heart wanted it to do. 155 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:09,666 - And his time in the NFL, he played in total five games 156 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:11,533 over the course of his career. 157 00:06:11,633 --> 00:06:13,533 - NFL, you're not for long. 158 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,332 - Because of injuries, you're only in there 159 00:06:19,433 --> 00:06:21,700 for a short period of time. 160 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,766 - So in between the third season 161 00:06:23,866 --> 00:06:25,933 and what would have been my fourth season, 162 00:06:26,033 --> 00:06:27,533 the NFL began 163 00:06:27,633 --> 00:06:29,300 the World League of American Football. 164 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,200 ♪ ♪ 165 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:33,700 - For the season premiere 166 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,466 of the World League of American Football. 167 00:06:35,566 --> 00:06:37,500 - World League Football was like 168 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,566 a minor league feeding system for the NFL. 169 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:43,666 But they were also trying to get 170 00:06:43,766 --> 00:06:45,866 the European market to get interested 171 00:06:45,966 --> 00:06:48,133 in American football, 172 00:06:48,233 --> 00:06:49,566 and it was good football. 173 00:06:49,666 --> 00:06:51,466 - And as it turned out, I ended up having 174 00:06:51,566 --> 00:06:53,332 probably the best season of my career. 175 00:06:53,433 --> 00:06:54,900 - As he makes his way-- 176 00:06:54,966 --> 00:07:00,233 fumble, drag, and fall into the arms of Eric Naposki! 177 00:07:00,333 --> 00:07:03,000 - And I'm doing sacks, and I'm doing interceptions. 178 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:05,633 - He was finally playing a starring role on defense, 179 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:06,833 not just special teams. 180 00:07:06,933 --> 00:07:09,233 - Across the middle, and it's caught. 181 00:07:09,333 --> 00:07:11,033 Oh, and Naposki just nailed him. 182 00:07:11,133 --> 00:07:12,466 - He loved the environment. He loved his coaches. 183 00:07:12,566 --> 00:07:13,733 He loved his teammates. 184 00:07:13,833 --> 00:07:16,800 So for him, it was an extremely enjoyable time. 185 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:17,866 - But then I couldn't 186 00:07:17,966 --> 00:07:19,366 capitalize on the season. 187 00:07:19,466 --> 00:07:20,866 - Naposki, one of their best ones, 188 00:07:20,966 --> 00:07:22,300 out for the second year in a row 189 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,233 for the playoffs with injuries. 190 00:07:24,332 --> 00:07:26,466 - Ultimately, he decided that there wasn't 191 00:07:26,566 --> 00:07:28,233 enough healing being done. 192 00:07:28,332 --> 00:07:29,700 And that's when he started to settle 193 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,066 into a, you know, quote, unquote, "civilian life." 194 00:07:32,166 --> 00:07:35,066 [upbeat music] 195 00:07:35,166 --> 00:07:36,832 ♪ ♪ 196 00:07:36,933 --> 00:07:39,000 - For his personality, 197 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:42,300 the perception of California was a very good fit for him. 198 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,266 The weather, the chill lifestyle, 199 00:07:45,366 --> 00:07:48,200 it's not the New York rat race. 200 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:50,033 Everybody has a dog, 201 00:07:50,133 --> 00:07:52,266 everybody is outside most of the year, 202 00:07:52,366 --> 00:07:54,800 that he thought that was gonna be a very good fit for him. 203 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:57,533 ♪ ♪ 204 00:07:57,633 --> 00:08:00,266 - When me and Nanette met, we met at a gym. 205 00:08:00,366 --> 00:08:02,033 The relationship really developed 206 00:08:02,133 --> 00:08:04,833 over about a year and a half period of time. 207 00:08:04,933 --> 00:08:07,066 - She's super attractive. 208 00:08:07,166 --> 00:08:09,200 She's charming. She's friendly. 209 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:11,100 What I heard about her was she was 210 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,733 a pretty low-level employee at a medical device company. 211 00:08:14,833 --> 00:08:17,300 Basically said, "Hey, I have this idea for a device. 212 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,600 "It separates plasma from blood. 213 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:21,766 I don't know what to do with this." 214 00:08:21,866 --> 00:08:23,800 She brought the idea to the CEO 215 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:25,700 who became her business partner. 216 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,000 And he said, "You know what? 217 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:28,166 "If anything comes of it, 218 00:08:28,266 --> 00:08:29,366 "we'll treat it like a lottery ticket. 219 00:08:29,466 --> 00:08:30,633 We'll split it." 220 00:08:30,733 --> 00:08:34,732 That ended up being a product that was spun off 221 00:08:34,832 --> 00:08:39,566 and sold for $50 million. 222 00:08:39,665 --> 00:08:41,000 And he kept his word. 223 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:43,433 They split it 50/50 like a lottery ticket. 224 00:08:43,533 --> 00:08:44,900 - Thought she was rich, right? 225 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,433 She owned a $5 million beach house. 226 00:08:46,533 --> 00:08:47,733 She had plenty of money. 227 00:08:47,833 --> 00:08:49,600 She drove a Cadillac. She wore Rolex watches. 228 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:51,665 So that part of my life with her 229 00:08:51,766 --> 00:08:54,200 was more of the exciting going out, 230 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:57,466 planning vacations and trips. 231 00:08:57,566 --> 00:08:59,300 I was enjoying myself. 232 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,600 I was really starting to live 233 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:02,500 the Southern California lifestyle. 234 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,966 - He's in love. 235 00:09:04,066 --> 00:09:06,033 They're picturing a life together-- 236 00:09:06,133 --> 00:09:10,266 the kids, the future, the American dream. 237 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,066 And they seemed like a really good fit. 238 00:09:13,166 --> 00:09:16,066 [tense music] 239 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:17,400 ♪ ♪ 240 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:21,033 - In December 1994, I was working in patrol. 241 00:09:21,133 --> 00:09:23,900 We had a call come out of a shooting 242 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,466 that had just taken place, 243 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:28,333 and the victim was not home alone, 244 00:09:28,433 --> 00:09:31,366 that he'd been home, accompanied by his son, Kevin. 245 00:09:46,233 --> 00:09:49,233 - Kevin had been in an accident many years earlier 246 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:50,933 and had some brain trauma. 247 00:09:51,033 --> 00:09:54,633 To this day, that 911 recording still sticks out in my mind 248 00:09:54,733 --> 00:09:56,533 as one of the most chilling. 249 00:10:05,966 --> 00:10:07,300 [police siren wailing] 250 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,600 [dramatic music] 251 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:10,466 - After entering the house, 252 00:10:10,566 --> 00:10:12,366 I immediately came upon the victim, 253 00:10:12,466 --> 00:10:13,733 who was still laying on the kitchen floor, 254 00:10:13,833 --> 00:10:15,100 Bill McLaughlin. 255 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,300 The gentleman had been, obviously, confronted 256 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,300 within his residence and shot several times in the chest, 257 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,266 almost an overkill. 258 00:10:22,366 --> 00:10:25,800 Later on, a female had arrived at the crime scene. 259 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:29,500 She identified herself as Nanette Johnston, 260 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,566 and that she resided with Bill McLaughlin and that, 261 00:10:32,665 --> 00:10:35,200 in fact, she was his fiancée. 262 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:37,165 ♪ ♪ 263 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,033 [dramatic music] 264 00:10:41,133 --> 00:10:43,700 - Whenever you've got a murder that has taken place, 265 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,900 we want to look at everybody potentially 266 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,600 that could be responsible and did a walk through 267 00:10:48,700 --> 00:10:49,933 at the crime scene. 268 00:10:50,033 --> 00:10:52,733 And pieces of evidence were standing out. 269 00:10:52,833 --> 00:10:54,533 There were numerous spent cartridges, 270 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:57,100 so it appeared that the suspect had used 271 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,833 a semiautomatic weapon. 272 00:10:59,933 --> 00:11:03,533 There was a key left in the lock on the front door. 273 00:11:03,633 --> 00:11:06,033 On the floor mat was an additional key 274 00:11:06,133 --> 00:11:07,433 dropped by somebody. 275 00:11:07,533 --> 00:11:10,400 Investigation 101 is you're gonna to look at who's 276 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:13,300 the closest to the victim-- loved ones, spouses-- 277 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,000 in order to access those keys. 278 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:20,133 ♪ ♪ 279 00:11:20,233 --> 00:11:23,633 Nanette stated that she had been attending a soccer game 280 00:11:23,733 --> 00:11:25,633 that her son was participating in 281 00:11:25,733 --> 00:11:28,600 30 minutes north of Newport Beach. 282 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:30,033 Once the game had ended, 283 00:11:30,133 --> 00:11:31,100 she had taken her children 284 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:32,500 to South Coast Plaza. 285 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,033 She provided receipts 286 00:11:34,133 --> 00:11:35,165 for purchases she made, 287 00:11:35,266 --> 00:11:36,433 so we were able to get 288 00:11:36,533 --> 00:11:37,466 somewhat of a timeline 289 00:11:37,566 --> 00:11:38,733 of her whereabouts 290 00:11:38,833 --> 00:11:40,033 at the time that we believe 291 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:42,000 the shooting had taken place. 292 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:43,566 At first blush, you're looking at her 293 00:11:43,665 --> 00:11:45,833 and saying, well, she appears to be a caring mother. 294 00:11:45,933 --> 00:11:48,165 And she even expressed some type of fear 295 00:11:48,266 --> 00:11:50,566 that she didn't want to remain at the residence 296 00:11:50,665 --> 00:11:53,866 that night due to the fact that the killer was still out. 297 00:11:53,933 --> 00:11:55,200 ♪ ♪ 298 00:11:55,266 --> 00:11:57,366 Mr. McLaughlin owned another beach house 299 00:11:57,466 --> 00:11:59,366 five or six blocks away. 300 00:11:59,466 --> 00:12:02,400 When we escorted her to the other residence, 301 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:04,600 she never once asked, 302 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:06,566 "Can I have security sit on my house? 303 00:12:06,666 --> 00:12:09,533 "Do we have any idea who might have done this?" 304 00:12:09,633 --> 00:12:11,066 Which really stuck out to me 305 00:12:11,166 --> 00:12:12,333 because the parallel 306 00:12:12,433 --> 00:12:14,300 to the OJ Simpson murder was the same thing. 307 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,566 OJ never really once was worried about this killer 308 00:12:17,666 --> 00:12:20,733 that was out there that had killed his wife. 309 00:12:20,833 --> 00:12:22,866 Unbeknownst to her, we maintained 310 00:12:22,966 --> 00:12:24,700 a surveillance team on her. 311 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,066 ♪ ♪ 312 00:12:27,133 --> 00:12:30,133 It was a few days later when I saw a Nissan Pathfinder 313 00:12:30,233 --> 00:12:31,800 pull up to the residence. 314 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:33,133 ♪ ♪ 315 00:12:33,233 --> 00:12:35,833 The driver gets out. It's a big guy. 316 00:12:35,933 --> 00:12:40,333 I immediately exited my car, walked out onto the beach, 317 00:12:40,433 --> 00:12:44,433 and was able to get a view inside. 318 00:12:44,533 --> 00:12:46,733 I saw Nanette and this gentleman 319 00:12:46,833 --> 00:12:49,165 have a pretty intimate embrace and kiss. 320 00:12:49,266 --> 00:12:51,433 After her fiancé had been brutally murdered 321 00:12:51,533 --> 00:12:53,633 with no concern that this crazed killer 322 00:12:53,733 --> 00:12:55,700 was still out there, it stunk on ice. 323 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,500 I mean, we needed to identify who 324 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,200 this guy was and his relationship with Nanette. 325 00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:03,366 When we ran that plate, it came back 326 00:13:03,466 --> 00:13:05,133 with the last name of Naposki. 327 00:13:05,233 --> 00:13:08,966 - I think I was arrested on a traffic violation. 328 00:13:09,066 --> 00:13:11,633 - Police officers did an inventory search 329 00:13:11,733 --> 00:13:15,166 of the vehicle he drove in, and they found a notebook pad 330 00:13:15,266 --> 00:13:17,333 that had handwritten license plate belonging 331 00:13:17,433 --> 00:13:19,466 to our victim in his possession in his vehicle. 332 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:21,866 So straws on a camel's back, 333 00:13:21,966 --> 00:13:23,500 but they're starting to add up. 334 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,000 - And they bring him in. 335 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,133 He has no idea what's going on. 336 00:13:27,233 --> 00:13:29,533 - And there I am, in an interview room. 337 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:49,733 - We were trying to get an accurate picture on who Eric 338 00:13:49,833 --> 00:13:52,566 was and what his relationship was with not only Nanette, 339 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:53,966 but with our victim. 340 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:15,000 - This is his 20-something year old girlfriend 341 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:16,066 that he's in love with 342 00:14:16,166 --> 00:14:18,466 and her older CEO business partner. 343 00:14:18,566 --> 00:14:20,466 And he was like, I don't know what they're getting at, 344 00:14:20,566 --> 00:14:22,733 but I'm not an idiot. 345 00:14:22,833 --> 00:14:24,466 I'm not playing ball with this. 346 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:40,233 Man, I'm in the middle of what the cops 347 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:41,900 believe is a love triangle. 348 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,900 Right? I was believing her. 349 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,733 And they say, "Well, buddy, you've been lied to. 350 00:14:46,833 --> 00:14:48,100 They're together." 351 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,966 - Eric's only alibi was that he had left his house 352 00:14:51,066 --> 00:14:52,800 at Tustin at a specific time, 353 00:14:52,900 --> 00:14:55,233 and that he got paged by his work, 354 00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:57,633 and that he had pulled over to a restaurant 355 00:14:57,733 --> 00:14:59,700 a short distance away from his residence 356 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,800 to let them know that he was running a little late. 357 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:29,166 - He worked at a nightclub that was literally two blocks 358 00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:31,066 from our victim's residence. 359 00:15:31,166 --> 00:15:34,000 And Eric says that it was physically impossible for him 360 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:37,533 to drive from an area in Tustin after making a phone call, 361 00:15:37,633 --> 00:15:40,033 which he thought was documented, to Newport Beach, 362 00:15:40,133 --> 00:15:42,333 complete a murder, and then show up at his workplace. 363 00:15:42,433 --> 00:15:46,866 - Meanwhile, the police are putting articles 364 00:15:46,933 --> 00:15:49,900 and stories in our old hometown, 365 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,665 trying to get information on, 366 00:15:51,766 --> 00:15:53,200 has this ever happened before, 367 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:54,733 does he have a history of violence? 368 00:15:54,833 --> 00:15:56,366 You know, big, strong, tough football player, 369 00:15:56,466 --> 00:16:00,166 a linebacker, you know, a borderline violent position. 370 00:16:00,266 --> 00:16:02,133 Is that why he was a good linebacker, 371 00:16:02,233 --> 00:16:04,100 because he's a violent guy? 372 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,666 - Well, there were a couple of incidents 373 00:16:05,766 --> 00:16:08,133 outside the various nightclubs Eric worked at, 374 00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:10,833 where colleagues saw him get in fights with people, 375 00:16:10,933 --> 00:16:12,966 or at one time, joking that he needed to move back 376 00:16:13,066 --> 00:16:14,500 to New York because in New York, 377 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,100 you can actually get away with murder. 378 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,600 And it scared certain people, 379 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:18,833 there's no question about it. 380 00:16:18,933 --> 00:16:21,100 - We found out later that Eric also had 381 00:16:21,166 --> 00:16:23,266 a 9-millimeter registered to him. 382 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,566 - So he completely shuts down, 383 00:16:43,665 --> 00:16:46,200 which probably wasn't the greatest idea. 384 00:16:46,300 --> 00:16:49,933 So if you're the police, you see that as odd behavior, 385 00:16:50,033 --> 00:16:51,833 he's being defensive, and not playing ball. 386 00:16:51,933 --> 00:16:54,766 Maybe this is somebody that we should look at. 387 00:16:54,866 --> 00:16:56,633 - The layman would look at this evidence 388 00:16:56,733 --> 00:16:57,933 laying on a table, 389 00:16:58,033 --> 00:16:59,800 they'd all say, well, push Eric to the top 390 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:01,466 of our suspect list. 391 00:17:01,566 --> 00:17:04,800 But as far as a smoking gun or the actual weapon 392 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,266 that was used to kill him, those things were not present. 393 00:17:08,366 --> 00:17:10,532 So he never reached certain criteria 394 00:17:10,633 --> 00:17:12,032 to get a filing with the district attorney 395 00:17:12,133 --> 00:17:14,866 for a murder charge against Eric. 396 00:17:14,965 --> 00:17:18,000 Within a year or two of this murder, 397 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:20,766 the case went into the cold case files. 398 00:17:20,866 --> 00:17:22,633 - Because I didn't commit the murder. 399 00:17:22,733 --> 00:17:24,733 Because I wouldn't commit the murder. 400 00:17:24,833 --> 00:17:26,233 ♪ ♪ 401 00:17:26,333 --> 00:17:29,300 Nanette never told me they were ever engaged. 402 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,966 I was believing her. I was in love with her. 403 00:17:32,066 --> 00:17:35,033 But everything she had told me over the last couple of years 404 00:17:35,133 --> 00:17:36,733 was nothing but a lie. 405 00:17:36,833 --> 00:17:40,766 And my devotion to her is what really got me in trouble. 406 00:17:40,866 --> 00:17:43,600 Well, I actually bought that gun for Nanette. 407 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,300 [upbeat hip-hop music] 408 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,700 - So Eric started to realize that he wanted 409 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,933 to get away from Nanette. 410 00:17:56,033 --> 00:17:57,466 It wasn't prudent for him 411 00:17:57,566 --> 00:18:00,066 to be geographically near her anymore. 412 00:18:00,166 --> 00:18:01,600 Then he goes back over to Spain 413 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:03,900 to Barcelona Dragons again. 414 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 - And inside the 30 yard line. 415 00:18:07,100 --> 00:18:08,866 - And he's playing almost just as well 416 00:18:08,966 --> 00:18:11,433 as he did when he was much younger in the early '90s. 417 00:18:11,533 --> 00:18:14,000 - Next thing you know, he's the captain of the team. 418 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:18,233 He's one of three main stars in the entire league. 419 00:18:18,333 --> 00:18:20,666 - 91, Eric Naposki, is gonna come in 420 00:18:20,766 --> 00:18:22,966 from the side on this one and fill this hole up. 421 00:18:23,066 --> 00:18:24,533 Picture perfect tackle. 422 00:18:24,633 --> 00:18:26,100 - He told me he had a fan club. 423 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,033 I was like, 424 00:18:28,133 --> 00:18:29,833 no way. 425 00:18:31,366 --> 00:18:33,266 [ominous music] 426 00:18:33,366 --> 00:18:35,200 - Around the time Eric moved on, 427 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:37,200 there were still lots of unanswered questions 428 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,066 from the investigation. 429 00:18:39,166 --> 00:18:40,533 - Look, the killers in this case 430 00:18:40,633 --> 00:18:41,566 thought they got away with it. 431 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:42,733 One of the things that's great 432 00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:44,266 about the Newport Beach Police Department 433 00:18:44,366 --> 00:18:46,166 is they never gave up on a homicide. 434 00:18:46,266 --> 00:18:48,800 - How much each was involved, we still didn't know, 435 00:18:48,900 --> 00:18:51,733 but we knew we had the right suspects. 436 00:18:51,833 --> 00:18:55,166 If you want a built-in motive for murder, that would be, 437 00:18:55,266 --> 00:18:57,166 obviously, finding all we can on the background 438 00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:59,366 on Nanette Johnston. 439 00:18:59,466 --> 00:19:03,266 We discovered Nanette met Mr. McLaughlin through one 440 00:19:03,366 --> 00:19:06,866 of these singles newspapers, and not mixing any bones, 441 00:19:06,966 --> 00:19:08,800 saying she's looking for a wealthy, older man 442 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:10,000 to take care of her, 443 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:11,333 and she'd take care of him, 444 00:19:11,433 --> 00:19:12,733 and here's my phone number. 445 00:19:12,833 --> 00:19:14,733 Bill McLaughlin's daughters were concerned. 446 00:19:14,833 --> 00:19:17,600 - I said, Dad, I don't really like her. 447 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:19,766 I think she's with you for your money. 448 00:19:19,866 --> 00:19:21,333 - She was a man hunter. 449 00:19:21,433 --> 00:19:23,433 She would create a relationship, 450 00:19:23,533 --> 00:19:26,466 have that person fall in love, make babies, 451 00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:29,933 and every one of 'em so happened to be millionaires. 452 00:19:30,033 --> 00:19:33,100 Within a year, Nanette claimed that she was engaged 453 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,833 to be married to Mr. McLaughlin. 454 00:19:34,933 --> 00:19:37,400 - And she told everyone she was his fiancée. 455 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:39,500 - She had a whopper of a ring. 456 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,800 - Pretty soon, she's the trustee of his estate, 457 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:43,833 she's got a provision in his will. 458 00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:47,500 - The investigators were looking into that end of it 459 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,800 to finding a motive for a homicide. 460 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:51,733 But when she found Eric, she found this, 461 00:19:51,833 --> 00:19:53,900 you know, hunky, muscular boy toy, 462 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,100 and they were out there looking 463 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,400 at million dollar homes, 464 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,400 claiming that they were gonna come into funds, 465 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:00,566 to money, quite a bit of money, to actually go out there 466 00:20:00,666 --> 00:20:02,933 and purchase these homes with Eric and live, 467 00:20:03,033 --> 00:20:04,800 you know, the happily ever after. 468 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:06,600 But neither of them had a legitimate source 469 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:07,700 for that money. 470 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,633 The only way that she's gonna get away 471 00:20:09,733 --> 00:20:12,033 with that is if Mr. McLaughlin's not alive. 472 00:20:12,133 --> 00:20:14,666 - She needed somebody to kill Bill McLaughlin, 473 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:18,166 and she found a willing dupe in Eric Naposki. 474 00:20:18,266 --> 00:20:20,533 As soon as he has fulfilled his purpose, 475 00:20:20,633 --> 00:20:24,400 Nanette Johnston goes from rich guy to rich guy. 476 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:27,033 She's got no room in her life for him. 477 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,166 [crowd roaring] 478 00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:33,366 - In front of a screaming crowd of 30,000, 479 00:20:33,466 --> 00:20:35,300 Eric winds up making the World Bowl. 480 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,500 - And their goal coming out of training camp was 481 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,866 to host the World Bowl game, get off to a fast start. 482 00:20:39,966 --> 00:20:41,300 - And he rose to the occasion, 483 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,366 helping make some decisive plays. 484 00:20:43,466 --> 00:20:46,233 - Eric Naposki started it. 485 00:20:46,333 --> 00:20:50,000 Hugh Hunter finished the job for Barcelona. 486 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:51,900 - And investigators received a call 487 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,133 from Mr. McLaughlin's daughters. 488 00:20:54,233 --> 00:20:56,466 They had been doing their own forensic examination 489 00:20:56,566 --> 00:21:00,900 of his accounts and found that Nanette was writing herself 490 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,100 checks for hundreds of thousands of dollars 491 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,500 leading up to the day that Mr. McLaughlin was killed. 492 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,666 [phone dialing] 493 00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:11,766 [phone ringing] 494 00:21:54,866 --> 00:21:58,433 - She pled guilty to being a thief 495 00:21:58,533 --> 00:22:01,733 of hundreds of thousands of dollars and did jail time. 496 00:22:04,433 --> 00:22:07,100 - Essentially, Bill McLaughlin needed to die 497 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,566 before he discovered that Nanette was stealing from him. 498 00:22:09,666 --> 00:22:11,566 - We all knew that was the motive. 499 00:22:11,666 --> 00:22:14,266 Her admitting guilt to that gave us a step closer 500 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,633 to maybe, hopefully, one day, getting a murder filing. 501 00:22:16,733 --> 00:22:18,133 ♪ ♪ 502 00:22:18,233 --> 00:22:20,533 - While Nanette was in trouble for fraud, 503 00:22:20,633 --> 00:22:22,400 Eric reaches the height of his career 504 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:24,700 with a passionate performance in the World Bowl. 505 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,200 - There's Eric Naposki. He's waited so long for this. 506 00:22:27,266 --> 00:22:29,066 He missed out in '91. 507 00:22:29,166 --> 00:22:31,466 He's gonna get it now. 508 00:22:31,566 --> 00:22:34,200 - Eventually, Eric and the Barcelona Dragons 509 00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:37,400 end up outclassing their opponents to win the game. 510 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:39,166 - And the Barcelona Dragons 511 00:22:39,266 --> 00:22:41,433 are champions of the World League. 512 00:22:41,533 --> 00:22:44,566 ♪ ♪ 513 00:22:44,666 --> 00:22:47,166 - This is a case I'd heard about 514 00:22:47,266 --> 00:22:48,500 my first day in the unit. 515 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,700 My predecessor told me about the McLaughlin case 516 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,700 and said that she thought that if we put some time into it 517 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,066 that it might be solvable. 518 00:22:55,166 --> 00:22:58,000 So we bring out these boxes, and we dust them off, 519 00:22:58,100 --> 00:22:59,166 and you open 'em up, 520 00:22:59,266 --> 00:23:00,166 and they're almost like time capsules. 521 00:23:00,266 --> 00:23:01,400 And you're looking for details, 522 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:02,866 and you're putting the pieces together. 523 00:23:02,966 --> 00:23:04,900 And then there's that aha moment. 524 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,533 - Eric told me everything. 525 00:23:06,633 --> 00:23:08,800 He told me that he wanted to kill Bill. 526 00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:11,900 ♪ ♪ 527 00:23:14,733 --> 00:23:19,333 - Back in 1994, they opened up calls to the public. 528 00:23:19,433 --> 00:23:22,366 Jenny and Kim McLaughlin, the two surviving daughters, 529 00:23:22,466 --> 00:23:25,266 they had set aside reward money for somebody 530 00:23:25,366 --> 00:23:26,666 that was willing to step forward 531 00:23:26,766 --> 00:23:28,133 and help solve the murder. 532 00:23:28,233 --> 00:23:30,533 And there were all these tapes that came in. 533 00:23:30,633 --> 00:23:32,466 So the picture of the scene. 534 00:23:32,566 --> 00:23:35,166 My assigned investigator, Detective Larry Montgomery, 535 00:23:35,266 --> 00:23:38,100 is sitting there, and he's listening to the call 536 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,600 of some well-meaning person 537 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:42,133 that wanted to help that had nothing of value. 538 00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:44,866 He let it run, and the tape is still playing, 539 00:23:44,966 --> 00:23:48,833 and there's another call that comes through that was missed. 540 00:24:03,933 --> 00:24:05,766 - And now, all of a sudden, we've got Suzanne Cogar. 541 00:24:05,866 --> 00:24:07,333 - I'm Suzanne Cogar, 542 00:24:07,466 --> 00:24:10,466 and I knew Eric Naposki back in the '90s. 543 00:24:10,566 --> 00:24:13,166 He was my neighbor at our apartment complex. 544 00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:16,800 When I first met Eric, it was at the pool. 545 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,900 And it was just really easy to become friends with him 546 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,333 because he was also a very friendly person. 547 00:24:23,433 --> 00:24:27,833 One evening, Eric knocked on my door unexpectedly. 548 00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:30,900 He just started unloading on me, 549 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,733 telling me about his feelings for Nanette 550 00:24:33,833 --> 00:24:35,700 and how they were in this relationship 551 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,700 and he cared for her very deeply. 552 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,233 And then he told me that she was living 553 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:41,700 with Bill McLaughlin. 554 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,866 He was her business partner. 555 00:24:43,966 --> 00:24:46,200 He was upset about it. I think he was jealous. 556 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,266 He was just--he had a lot of emotions going on, 557 00:24:48,366 --> 00:24:49,333 I could tell. 558 00:24:49,433 --> 00:24:52,633 And he said that Nanette had told him 559 00:24:52,733 --> 00:24:57,066 that Bill McLaughlin was making unwanted sexual advances 560 00:24:57,166 --> 00:24:58,200 on Nanette. 561 00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:00,433 And I could see the intensity 562 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:03,166 in his eyes and in his demeanor. 563 00:25:03,266 --> 00:25:06,300 Then it switched to his feelings 564 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,333 toward Bill McLaughlin. 565 00:25:29,366 --> 00:25:32,266 - Fast forward, Suzanne Cogar sees Eric Naposki 566 00:25:32,366 --> 00:25:33,633 then after the murder. 567 00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:36,700 And he said, hey, remember that Bill McLaughlin guy? 568 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,133 Did you hear he was murdered? 569 00:25:38,233 --> 00:25:41,733 - Wait--the guy that you told me a few weeks ago 570 00:25:41,833 --> 00:25:43,333 that you wanted to have killed? 571 00:25:43,433 --> 00:25:46,066 - She goes, "Oh, my God, Eric, I don't want to-- 572 00:25:46,166 --> 00:25:47,666 I don't even want to know." 573 00:25:47,733 --> 00:25:49,500 - He said, "Oh, I didn't do it, 574 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,100 but I might have had someone do it." 575 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,333 And he just smirked when he said it. 576 00:25:55,433 --> 00:25:58,300 - He basically pronounces his motive-- 577 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,433 that he hates Bill McLaughlin and wishes that he was dead. 578 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,600 - I think that Eric was manipulated by Nanette. 579 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,133 He was doing this because she wanted him to, 580 00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:34,166 and he's doing this out of love. 581 00:26:34,266 --> 00:26:35,566 - And ready, ready, break! 582 00:26:35,666 --> 00:26:37,966 - What really sheds light on his personality 583 00:26:38,066 --> 00:26:40,166 is he can't help but brag about it. 584 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,166 It's not like the anger building up 585 00:26:42,266 --> 00:26:43,600 to it that's important. 586 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:45,800 It's the pride that he took in it. 587 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,300 There's just no way we were gonna let him 588 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,866 get away with this murder. 589 00:26:49,966 --> 00:26:52,466 [soft music] 590 00:26:52,566 --> 00:26:56,400 - About 6:30 in the morning, I got in my car, 591 00:26:56,500 --> 00:27:00,866 and there was a police officer opposite my driveway. 592 00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:03,033 I made a left out of my driveway, 593 00:27:03,133 --> 00:27:06,266 and then I turn back in my rearview mirror, 594 00:27:06,366 --> 00:27:09,700 and that's where I saw the Greenwich SWAT team. 595 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,100 [chuckles] 596 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,800 And then they said to get out of the vehicle, 597 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:14,300 lay down on the ground. 598 00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:39,900 - They got him, they arrested him, 599 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,200 extradited him back to California. 600 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:44,133 He was gone. He was gone. 601 00:27:44,233 --> 00:27:48,266 He got picked out of his reality 602 00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:51,500 and put into a completely different reality. 603 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,366 And there is no one to call or-- 604 00:27:53,466 --> 00:27:54,966 except an attorney, of course. 605 00:27:55,066 --> 00:27:56,366 [dramatic music] 606 00:27:56,466 --> 00:27:57,766 - We always believed Nanette was 607 00:27:57,866 --> 00:27:58,966 the mastermind of this thing. 608 00:27:59,066 --> 00:28:00,333 There was never a doubt that she was 609 00:28:00,433 --> 00:28:01,866 the one that stood to gain the most. 610 00:28:01,966 --> 00:28:04,000 You know, we always saw it that way. 611 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,566 We wanted to give him an opportunity 612 00:28:05,666 --> 00:28:08,966 to call Nanette and see if he would cooperate, at long last, 613 00:28:09,066 --> 00:28:11,100 and help bring justice for the McLaughlin family. 614 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,566 - He rolled the dice. 615 00:28:12,666 --> 00:28:14,100 He didn't believe that there was enough evidence 616 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,800 to convict him and/or Nanette, 617 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:17,566 and he made a decision at that point. 618 00:28:17,666 --> 00:28:20,166 That was our green light to go arrest Nanette. 619 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:22,133 - Prosecutors say Naposki plotted 620 00:28:22,233 --> 00:28:25,600 to kill William McLaughlin nearly 17 years ago for money. 621 00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:27,933 Naposki was having an affair with the victim's girlfriend, 622 00:28:28,033 --> 00:28:29,100 Nanette Packard. 623 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,333 She's also charged with the murder. 624 00:28:31,433 --> 00:28:32,866 - I said, Nanette, I'm Sergeant Byington 625 00:28:32,966 --> 00:28:34,433 with the Newport Beach Police Department. 626 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:36,833 I have a warrant for your arrest for murder. 627 00:28:36,933 --> 00:28:38,533 And she immediately said, "Whose murder?" 628 00:28:38,633 --> 00:28:40,133 This is Bill McLaughlin's murder. 629 00:28:40,233 --> 00:28:41,766 And she made a statement of, 630 00:28:41,866 --> 00:28:43,600 "Why would I want Bill McLaughlin dead? 631 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:45,966 He was worth more to me alive than dead." 632 00:28:46,066 --> 00:28:48,666 - They're looking for a scapegoat. 633 00:28:48,766 --> 00:28:51,166 She clearly had something to do with it, 634 00:28:51,266 --> 00:28:53,900 but they can't pin her for the murder. 635 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,033 So who could have done it? 636 00:28:56,133 --> 00:29:01,466 How about the 285-pound bald, tattooed, former linebacker? 637 00:29:01,566 --> 00:29:04,500 Linebackers are violent, aren't they? 638 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,533 - One of the things Eric talked about was that he 639 00:29:06,633 --> 00:29:08,300 thinks some of the hits that he's taken could 640 00:29:08,366 --> 00:29:10,400 have contributed to some of his anger issues 641 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:11,833 or his moments of rage. 642 00:29:11,933 --> 00:29:13,833 It's something that he's noticed over time. 643 00:29:13,933 --> 00:29:16,933 - In the end, football is an inherently violent game. 644 00:29:17,033 --> 00:29:19,200 When I got my concussions in the NFL, 645 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,400 I typically got very, very emotional. 646 00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:24,400 I threatened the team doctor that if he did not give me 647 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:26,800 my helmet, I was gonna come to his house 648 00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,300 and do awful things to him. 649 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,100 I don't say things like that. That's not who I am. 650 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,433 But when your brain is impaired 651 00:29:32,533 --> 00:29:34,533 and your emotions are out of control, 652 00:29:34,633 --> 00:29:36,066 that's the kind of things that can happen. 653 00:29:36,166 --> 00:29:39,400 And some guys have a difficult time finding that line 654 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,466 between where football ends and the rest 655 00:29:41,566 --> 00:29:42,733 of regular life begins. 656 00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:45,500 ♪ ♪ 657 00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:50,566 - You get, essentially, one shot at murder. 658 00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:51,900 And if somebody is acquitted, that's it. 659 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,533 Under the laws of the United States, 660 00:29:53,633 --> 00:29:54,900 double jeopardy kicks in. 661 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,233 You can't be retried. 662 00:29:56,333 --> 00:29:58,100 So I don't want to blow this in the clutch. 663 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,233 And I've got a defendant that I think 664 00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:02,733 is gonna take the stand. 665 00:30:02,833 --> 00:30:04,866 So question at that point is, 666 00:30:04,966 --> 00:30:07,800 who's gonna win out in front of the jury. 667 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:09,933 You look at Nanette's theft from Bill McLaughlin, 668 00:30:10,033 --> 00:30:11,400 and you compare it 669 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,666 to her relationship with Naposki. 670 00:30:13,766 --> 00:30:15,466 Bill McLaughlin is only gonna find out 671 00:30:15,533 --> 00:30:17,933 that she's cheating on him, that she's stealing from him, 672 00:30:18,033 --> 00:30:20,566 and she's going to be out of that house, out of his life, 673 00:30:20,666 --> 00:30:23,033 and out of money, unless he dies. 674 00:30:23,133 --> 00:30:26,000 - About 80% of the trial was actually about Nanette, 675 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:27,233 how she had no money, 676 00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:28,833 how she never invented a product. 677 00:30:28,933 --> 00:30:31,066 And I kept thinking, what does this have to do with her? 678 00:30:31,166 --> 00:30:33,566 So they were proving their case about Nanette. 679 00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:37,000 They didn't have anything to talk about with Eric. 680 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:41,000 The DA created a narrative of him being 681 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,800 an anti-society character. 682 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:48,433 - No, I'm not a bad guy. 683 00:30:48,533 --> 00:30:49,833 - ♪ The nurses all gathered round ♪ 684 00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:51,466 ♪ And they gazed in wide wonder ♪ 685 00:30:51,566 --> 00:30:54,333 - Naposki! Whoo! 686 00:30:54,433 --> 00:30:55,833 - I just have a slightly different 687 00:30:55,933 --> 00:30:57,266 interpretation of the law. 688 00:30:57,366 --> 00:31:00,033 - ♪ Said, leave this one alone ♪ 689 00:31:00,133 --> 00:31:03,700 - So in the summer and fall of 1994, 690 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Eric Naposki and Nanette Johnston 691 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:07,200 are meeting with real estate agents, 692 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,033 looking at expensive properties. 693 00:31:09,133 --> 00:31:10,400 They say that they're gonna be able 694 00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,866 to buy the house in early 1995. 695 00:31:12,966 --> 00:31:15,733 Bill McLaughlin is murdered on December 15. 696 00:31:15,833 --> 00:31:19,100 - So the DA's narrative is, why would two people who don't 697 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,366 have any money shop for a house 698 00:31:21,466 --> 00:31:22,800 that's almost $1 million? 699 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:27,666 And the jury was like, oh, that makes perfect sense. 700 00:31:27,766 --> 00:31:31,600 Except Eric thought Nanette invented a product 701 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,300 and sold it with her business partner 702 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,900 and they made $25 million each. 703 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,900 - Eric Naposki, two weeks before the murder, 704 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 got a job at the Thunderbird nightclub. 705 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,800 And, again, going back to "Casablanca," 706 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:44,333 "of all the gin joints," of every bar that that guy 707 00:31:44,433 --> 00:31:46,800 could get a job as a bouncer, he gets a job 708 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,933 131 yards away from our murder scene. 709 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:51,400 When the police first arrive at the scene, 710 00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:52,833 they find two keys. 711 00:31:52,933 --> 00:31:55,866 And, sure enough, Eric Naposki went 712 00:31:55,966 --> 00:31:58,466 into an Ace Hardware store where he had keys made. 713 00:31:58,566 --> 00:32:01,200 - And the killer then walked into his house 714 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,466 and shot Bill six times. 715 00:32:03,566 --> 00:32:05,733 - And on the mat, there's been dropped 716 00:32:05,833 --> 00:32:07,766 a pedestrian access gate key. 717 00:32:07,866 --> 00:32:09,633 That key is huge. 718 00:32:09,733 --> 00:32:12,733 That would allow him access to a gate that's right across 719 00:32:12,833 --> 00:32:14,466 from the house where Bill McLaughlin was murdered. 720 00:32:14,566 --> 00:32:16,733 And, again, it's one of these tiny little details. 721 00:32:16,833 --> 00:32:19,333 When they looked at Nanette's keys, 722 00:32:19,433 --> 00:32:21,833 her pedestrian access key was missing. 723 00:32:21,933 --> 00:32:24,433 - Why would I even leave keys at the murder scene? 724 00:32:24,533 --> 00:32:26,033 I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me, 725 00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:27,866 especially, so I got to get out of there, right? 726 00:32:27,933 --> 00:32:29,400 Because I just committed a murder 727 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,533 and I'm 6'2", 270 pounds. 728 00:32:31,633 --> 00:32:33,233 I'm gonna run across a busy street 729 00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:34,700 with a 9-millimeter in my hand. 730 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,333 - Meanwhile, it's his girlfriend 731 00:32:38,433 --> 00:32:40,233 that he thinks he's gonna marry-- 732 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:41,866 clearly doesn't know she's engaged. 733 00:32:41,966 --> 00:32:44,100 If someone said to me, hey, could you-- 734 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,600 are you gonna be in town today? 735 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:47,500 Could you make a copy of this key at the hardware store? 736 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,200 I would be like... ♪ Do, do, do, do, do ♪ 737 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,633 Yeah, I would go do it and make a copy of the key. 738 00:32:51,733 --> 00:32:55,433 - And his first interview is, "Yeah, we left the game, 739 00:32:55,533 --> 00:32:57,333 "and Nanette dropped me off at my apartment, 740 00:32:57,433 --> 00:32:58,833 and I drove to work." 741 00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:01,633 OK, and then they come in for another interview, 742 00:33:01,733 --> 00:33:04,033 and he says, "I got an alibi. 743 00:33:04,133 --> 00:33:05,300 "Well, let's see. 744 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,433 "She dropped me off, then I went up 745 00:33:06,533 --> 00:33:08,766 "to my friend Jomsky's house. 746 00:33:08,866 --> 00:33:10,500 "And then I got a page from my manager, 747 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,166 so I went to Denny's." 748 00:33:12,266 --> 00:33:15,166 So, before the trial, we went back to interview the manager. 749 00:33:15,266 --> 00:33:17,700 And the manager says, "I didn't page Eric Naposki. 750 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000 "The place doesn't start getting busy until 10:00. 751 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,533 "Nobody cares if he's there at 9:00 or not. 752 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,133 He's the head of security." 753 00:33:23,233 --> 00:33:26,300 - At the time, the person who paged me gave a statement 754 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,033 that I called back, that I was the one, in fact, 755 00:33:29,133 --> 00:33:31,633 that returned his page, that the phone that I used 756 00:33:31,733 --> 00:33:34,400 was located at Denny's, that the phone call was made 757 00:33:34,466 --> 00:33:37,600 at 8:52, that the drive between the phone booth 758 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,066 and the murder scene took 22 minutes, 759 00:33:40,166 --> 00:33:42,466 which proved there was no way for me to commit the crime. 760 00:33:42,566 --> 00:33:46,100 - We drove that route over, and over, and over again. 761 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,800 We did it on the calendar anniversary of the murder. 762 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,066 We did it on the day of the week 763 00:33:52,166 --> 00:33:53,366 anniversary of the murder. 764 00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:55,966 No matter how you slice it or dice it, 765 00:33:56,066 --> 00:33:57,933 you get there in time to commit the murder. 766 00:33:58,033 --> 00:33:59,333 - I can't say, whoa, wait a second, 767 00:33:59,433 --> 00:34:00,633 here's the phone records. 768 00:34:00,733 --> 00:34:02,166 Here's the guy that paged me. 769 00:34:02,266 --> 00:34:05,133 Here's the distance between the phone booth and the murder. 770 00:34:05,233 --> 00:34:07,133 Now figure it out. But I couldn't do that. 771 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,632 - There was no record of a phone call 772 00:34:08,733 --> 00:34:10,400 ever being made on a calling card. 773 00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:14,400 Eric's claim was that it was misplaced by his legal team, 774 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,433 by the police department, by him, by everybody. 775 00:34:16,533 --> 00:34:18,100 It's everybody else's fault, so... 776 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,433 - Now you overlap the advances in forensic science concerning 777 00:34:21,533 --> 00:34:22,833 expended shell casings. 778 00:34:22,933 --> 00:34:25,433 And what was one of 17 potential types 779 00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:29,199 of guns back in 1994 is now one kind of gun, 780 00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,100 a Beretta 92F expended the shell casings 781 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:33,500 in Bill McLaughlin's kitchen, 782 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,666 and that's the exact same gun 783 00:34:34,766 --> 00:34:37,132 that Naposki owned and then lied about. 784 00:34:37,233 --> 00:34:39,699 - Doesn't mean it was the one that I purchased. 785 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,100 Doesn't mean that at all. 786 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:42,966 There was a million 9 millimeter Berettas 787 00:34:43,065 --> 00:34:44,565 in the '90s purchased. 788 00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,266 Could have been anyone. 789 00:34:46,366 --> 00:34:47,966 Could have been someone setting me up 790 00:34:48,065 --> 00:34:50,333 to take the fall for a murder, right? 791 00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:52,266 - Guilty of first-degree murder-- 792 00:34:52,366 --> 00:34:54,100 a former football player has been convicted 793 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:55,366 of killing his lover's boyfriend 794 00:34:55,466 --> 00:34:56,699 in his Newport Beach home. 795 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,400 Eric Naposki shook his head in disbelief 796 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,933 as the verdict was read in a Santa Ana courtroom 797 00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:03,466 late this afternoon. 798 00:35:03,566 --> 00:35:07,266 - He's a physically intimidating, imposing guy, 799 00:35:07,366 --> 00:35:09,833 and number one, that he's got a temper and, number two, 800 00:35:09,933 --> 00:35:11,700 that he's capable of something like this. 801 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,766 He turns around and to me calling my name and saying, 802 00:35:14,866 --> 00:35:15,900 "You F-ing blew it. 803 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,833 You blew it, Murphy. You blew it." 804 00:35:19,566 --> 00:35:23,566 - No, I don't think Eric did it even slightly, 805 00:35:23,666 --> 00:35:25,066 or was even involved. 806 00:35:25,166 --> 00:35:29,166 I do know that, at one point, of his guns 807 00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:32,166 mysteriously went missing. 808 00:35:32,266 --> 00:35:34,333 Not that many people would have access to his guns, 809 00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,066 and Nanette certainly did. 810 00:35:36,166 --> 00:35:38,433 - We have more breaking news now on a story 811 00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:39,600 we brought you earlier. 812 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,366 That woman convicted in the 1994 murder 813 00:35:42,466 --> 00:35:43,833 of her wealthy live-in boyfriend 814 00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:45,666 just sentenced to life in prison 815 00:35:45,766 --> 00:35:47,300 without the possibility of parole. 816 00:35:47,366 --> 00:35:49,833 - And we're so glad that justice 817 00:35:49,933 --> 00:35:51,500 has been served on his behalf. 818 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,533 - It's a lot of closure for us and for many of us today. 819 00:35:55,633 --> 00:35:57,700 She got what she deserved. 820 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,600 - Nanette is the quintessential black Widow who manipulated 821 00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,966 one man into murdering Bill McLaughlin 822 00:36:04,066 --> 00:36:05,300 so she could take his money. 823 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,133 You know, and it's an old story. 824 00:36:07,233 --> 00:36:09,500 It's a plot line that movies have been made about 825 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,766 for years and years. 826 00:36:10,866 --> 00:36:13,033 And, in this case, it was real. 827 00:36:14,033 --> 00:36:16,333 But, of course, during that time between the verdict 828 00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:18,966 and sentencing, that's when we got a call 829 00:36:19,066 --> 00:36:20,866 that he wanted to talk again. 830 00:36:20,933 --> 00:36:25,033 - I am exposing myself, I'm exposing my family, 831 00:36:25,133 --> 00:36:27,833 I am exposing my children to harm. 832 00:36:27,933 --> 00:36:30,700 There's a murderer walking on the street. 833 00:36:33,466 --> 00:36:34,666 - Over the course of time, he's told many 834 00:36:34,766 --> 00:36:35,833 different versions of what happened. 835 00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:37,700 But then, after his conviction, 836 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,100 that's when he starts with the hit man theory. 837 00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:43,266 [dramatic music] 838 00:36:43,366 --> 00:36:46,133 - And Eric sent word that he wanted to talk. 839 00:36:46,233 --> 00:36:48,633 So we sat down with detectives, 840 00:36:48,733 --> 00:36:50,833 and he comes up with a completely brand-new story. 841 00:36:50,933 --> 00:36:52,333 And what he describes in that was, 842 00:36:52,433 --> 00:36:55,666 Nanette asked me to introduce her 843 00:36:55,766 --> 00:36:59,433 to a hit man, and they used my gun, 844 00:36:59,533 --> 00:37:01,133 but I had nothing to do with it. 845 00:37:01,233 --> 00:37:04,100 - Nanette Packard hired someone to kill him, 846 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,700 so she could benefit financially from the murder. 847 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,900 I didn't benefit. 848 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,266 My whole life got turned upside down. 849 00:37:11,366 --> 00:37:14,100 - But still, you have to take that information 850 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,666 and try to chase it down. 851 00:37:16,766 --> 00:37:18,666 I released the hounds again, and we go, 852 00:37:18,766 --> 00:37:21,166 and we chase down every lead we can. 853 00:37:21,266 --> 00:37:24,433 And we were unable to verify anything that Eric said, 854 00:37:24,533 --> 00:37:25,533 nothing. 855 00:37:25,633 --> 00:37:27,333 - You know, you start to wonder, 856 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,966 is he changing aspects of the story 857 00:37:29,066 --> 00:37:30,900 because he's finally telling you the truth 858 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,700 after the first couple of versions were inaccurate, 859 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,966 or was it really just lapses in memory, given the life 860 00:37:37,066 --> 00:37:39,400 that he led and for how many years he played 861 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,166 the violent sport that he did. 862 00:37:41,266 --> 00:37:44,033 - A recent NFL survey shows retired football players 863 00:37:44,133 --> 00:37:48,233 are 19 times more likely to suffer memory related problems 864 00:37:48,333 --> 00:37:49,933 or Alzheimer's disease. 865 00:37:50,033 --> 00:37:53,700 - CTE is basically a process where your brain, 866 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,466 upon repeated impacts, releases a chemical called tau. 867 00:37:58,566 --> 00:38:02,400 And this tau kind of eats away at your brain. 868 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:04,433 There's certainly the memory loss that is associated 869 00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:08,533 with CTE, the uneven behavior. 870 00:38:08,633 --> 00:38:10,566 - According to reports, teams will be required 871 00:38:10,666 --> 00:38:12,633 to seek advice from independent neurologists, 872 00:38:12,733 --> 00:38:15,366 not just team doctors, to decide when a player 873 00:38:15,466 --> 00:38:17,233 can return after a head injury. 874 00:38:17,333 --> 00:38:21,000 - "My initial reaction to the Hernandez CTE diagnosis 875 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:22,600 "was certainly no surprise. 876 00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:25,466 "Even though he was only 27, he probably played football 877 00:38:25,566 --> 00:38:28,733 since he was a kid, like most of the NFL's guys have." 878 00:38:28,833 --> 00:38:30,366 - The players who admit they have 879 00:38:30,466 --> 00:38:33,566 gotten a concussion--and let's remember, most of them don't. 880 00:38:33,666 --> 00:38:36,266 But when they do, they will probably 881 00:38:36,366 --> 00:38:38,900 be treated by someone who has a better understanding 882 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,566 of their both short-term and long-term risks 883 00:38:41,666 --> 00:38:43,200 of going back onto the field. 884 00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:46,233 - "Unlike Aaron, I never lost my cool and killed anybody. 885 00:38:46,333 --> 00:38:48,233 "That is why she was forced to use someone else 886 00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:49,600 "to commit this murder. 887 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:52,200 "My choice not to tell in '95 probably stemmed 888 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:54,600 "from residual anger about Bill's assaults 889 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:55,866 "against Nanette. 890 00:38:55,966 --> 00:38:58,666 "If CTE plays any major role in my history, 891 00:38:58,766 --> 00:39:01,033 I think it deals mostly with decision-making." 892 00:39:01,133 --> 00:39:03,600 - Yeah. It's nonsense. 893 00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:05,933 It's never he's taken ownership of anything, 894 00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:09,000 so now it's the concussion protocol, 895 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,700 that he had so many vicious hits in the NFL. 896 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,533 I think he's just a sociopath. 897 00:39:12,633 --> 00:39:15,033 I think, you know, it's everybody's-- 898 00:39:15,133 --> 00:39:17,466 to the point that he admits that he's involved 899 00:39:17,566 --> 00:39:20,800 in the conspiracy to kill this guy, even later on, 900 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:23,166 to come back, but it's someone else's fault, not me. 901 00:39:23,266 --> 00:39:25,500 - So I can sit here across from you 902 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,866 and say I couldn't have done this crime, 903 00:39:29,966 --> 00:39:32,533 but I'm doing life in prison, right? 904 00:39:32,633 --> 00:39:35,533 - I do believe that they didn't have very many options. 905 00:39:35,633 --> 00:39:37,600 And they had so much on Nanette, 906 00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,066 it was clear she's involved. 907 00:39:40,133 --> 00:39:41,700 But they didn't have a trigger person. 908 00:39:41,766 --> 00:39:45,333 - I think it's very probable that Eric had something to do 909 00:39:45,433 --> 00:39:47,133 with Bill McLaughlin's death. 910 00:39:47,233 --> 00:39:49,500 There was a point in time when Eric was 911 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,166 a legitimate love interest. 912 00:39:51,266 --> 00:39:54,433 But then once she figured out what type of buttons Eric had 913 00:39:54,533 --> 00:39:56,800 and how they could be pushed and manipulated, 914 00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:59,433 then I think she viewed Eric as more of a tool, 915 00:39:59,533 --> 00:40:02,233 more of an instrument, to commit the murder, 916 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:05,066 or at least be involved in the murder of Bill McLaughlin. 917 00:40:05,166 --> 00:40:07,666 - I have to prove that I didn't do this crime 918 00:40:07,766 --> 00:40:09,800 because someone else did this crime. 919 00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:11,066 Right? 920 00:40:11,166 --> 00:40:13,833 You have to not only prove you didn't do it. 921 00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:16,100 You have to prove someone did it. 922 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,166 - If this wasn't so brutal and so violent, 923 00:40:19,266 --> 00:40:22,733 you could almost feel sorry for this guy because he was-- 924 00:40:22,833 --> 00:40:25,533 he got rolled by this woman. 925 00:40:28,766 --> 00:40:30,733 - No idea. 926 00:40:30,833 --> 00:40:33,300 - All because I wasn't there. 927 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,566 Not because I was an immaculate murderer 928 00:40:37,666 --> 00:40:39,666 or an assassin, 929 00:40:39,766 --> 00:40:42,500 or I wore a body suit or gloves. 930 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,400 It was because I wasn't there, 931 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:46,866 which I didn't do it. 932 00:40:46,933 --> 00:40:48,633 - During the sentencing of Eric Naposki, 933 00:40:48,733 --> 00:40:50,233 Judge Froeberg even said, 934 00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:51,800 this case may be circumstantial, 935 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:55,700 but it is overwhelmingly convincing circumstantial. 936 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,733 - Eric still felt that if there was nothing 937 00:40:57,833 --> 00:40:59,166 that actually put him 938 00:40:59,266 --> 00:41:02,266 in Bill McLaughlin's house that night, 939 00:41:02,366 --> 00:41:04,400 then how can anybody say definitively 940 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:06,633 that he was involved, or that he played any role, 941 00:41:06,733 --> 00:41:08,733 or that he pulled the trigger? 942 00:41:08,833 --> 00:41:10,800 It does create an element of doubt 943 00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,366 for certain people that just captivates 944 00:41:13,466 --> 00:41:14,833 people's imaginations. 945 00:41:14,933 --> 00:41:17,833 And it's easy to see why going down the rabbit hole, 946 00:41:17,933 --> 00:41:20,633 and it's a case that people will continue to talk 947 00:41:20,733 --> 00:41:22,733 about forever, I imagine. 948 00:41:22,833 --> 00:41:25,733 [dramatic music] 949 00:41:25,833 --> 00:41:30,633 ♪ ♪ 950 00:41:30,733 --> 00:41:33,233 - And you could either believe me, 951 00:41:33,333 --> 00:41:35,533 or you could believe Murphy. 952 00:41:35,633 --> 00:41:36,700 It's an opinion. 953 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,433 ♪ ♪ 954 00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:40,200 We say there's no way I could have done it. 955 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,733 He says, afraid not. 956 00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:45,966 - He does not believe that you can stay 957 00:41:46,066 --> 00:41:47,700 in jail when you didn't do it. 958 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,200 He lives every day completely convinced he's getting out. 959 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,266 He's more optimistic than me. 960 00:41:53,366 --> 00:41:54,433 I mean, I try to be. 961 00:41:54,533 --> 00:41:56,066 Part of it feels like I'm talking 962 00:41:56,166 --> 00:41:58,900 to a child about Santa Claus. 963 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600 ♪ ♪ 74170

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