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This captain comes into our Homicide Unit
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holding an envelope in his hand.
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And he gave it to my partner, Dana.
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Inside was a photocopy
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of three Polaroid photos
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of a dead woman that I recognized as Vicki Wegerle.
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Vicki Wegerle was a homicide victim from 1986,
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but the police department doesn't take pictures of crime victims
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with a Polaroid.
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Somebody obviously took her picture as she was dying.
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At the very bottom,
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was the symbol used by a serial killer who started killing in 1974.
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The victims had been bound, gagged and strangled with a cord.
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It'd been decades since his last communication.
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A plastic bag over her head, and a cord looped around her neck.
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Most people thought that he was either in prison, or dead,
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or moved away.
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My boss looked over that letter.
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I'll never forget what he said.
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"Gentlemen...
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hug and kiss your families, because we're gonna work for a long time."
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"BTK is back."
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Okay, we're recording.
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Okay.
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My name is Kelly Otis, and in 2004,
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I was a homicide detective with the Wichita Police Department.
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When I was young, my father died,
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and I was raised by a very strong single mother.
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At the age of 21, I entered the police academy.
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I did 11 years in patrol, and then I got promoted to detective.
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And that's when I started working with my partner, Dana.
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I've always wanted to be a detective, ever since I was a little kid.
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I just didn't take people committing heinous crimes
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and getting away with it very well.
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When we got the letter from BTK,
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we put together a task force including Kelly Otis...
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How's that sound? Is that okay?
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...myself and Tim Relph.
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I remember BTK well from my childhood.
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The daughter was found hanging from a pipe in the basement.
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You didn't have to worry about the bogeyman or anything like that.
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Your fear was this brutal murderer.
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What leads do you have?
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Well, very honestly, we have... no solid leads at all.
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Once he reemerged,
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you know exactly what your task is.
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It's time for us... to catch that guy.
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I started looking through the old files,
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photographs, and the diagrams of the crime scene.
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The first murders attributed to BTK,
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um, were the Oteros.
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The BTK story goes back to January of 1974.
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BTK cut the phone lines at the back of the house.
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And he entered through the back door, ended up taking control of the family.
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Strangling Mr. Otero.
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Mrs. Otero.
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And the young boy.
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He then took Josephine Otero to the basement.
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She was bound up and then hung from a sewer pipe.
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Josephine Otero was just 11 years old.
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I had kids at the time,
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and I found it extremely disturbing looking at those pictures.
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It... It was horrendous.
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And you... you can't unsee something, right?
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BTK's second murder was Kathryn Bright.
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His next victim was a single mother,
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Shirley Vian.
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And then there was Nancy Fox,
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who was bound and tortured.
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He sent multiple communications
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to media outlets describing what he did.
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"The code words for me will be bind them,
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torture them,
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kill them.
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BTK."
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We talked about it a lot, and we agreed
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that if he would start sending letters like he did back in the '70s,
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we'd have a shot at catching him.
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Now we have much better fingerprinting and DNA testing.
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If he made one mistake, our unit would be able to pick up on that.
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BTK was serious about wanting to spread panic,
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wanting to spread fear.
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National attention is exactly what he wanted.
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And so we used the media
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to appeal to his narcissistic side.
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Wichita Police Department, on Friday,
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received a letter that most likely came from BTK.
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There was hope he would send additional packages or letters
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without actually killing someone new.
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This is one of the most challenging cases I've ever been involved with,
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and I find the individual that is doing this
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would be very interesting to talk to.
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A serial killer apparently has resurfaced.
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The killer breaking his silence after 25 years.
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People immediately fell back into their fears.
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Maybe he's a little closer.
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It's stressful.
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Could be
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the guy next door.
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I... You know, I have no clue.
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It had been a little bit over six weeks.
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We hadn't heard anything from BTK.
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And finally...
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...we get this phone call.
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Good evening. We have exclusive details
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on new communication that could be from the serial killer BTK.
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When we opened it up, we weren't sure what we'd find.
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The contents looked very suspicious.
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The news station had received communication
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allegedly from BTK.
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The police were called, and in no time,
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a detective arrived to retrieve the letter,
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to see if it contains the clues needed to track down BTK.
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When we got it back up to the crime lab, oh, I was extremely excited.
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Maybe we'd get some DNA off the envelope.
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Maybe we'd get a hair sample.
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But when we opened it up...
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it was extremely bizarre.
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Inside of that package,
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had a word-search puzzle.
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We found words like "victim."
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"Follow."
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And then "insurance man."
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"Lost pet."
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"Serviceman."
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He was playing a game with us.
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And I think that he was having fun with it.
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When the crime lab processed the evidence,
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there was no DNA, no hairs, no fibers, no fingerprints.
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And it was so frustrating.
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If you have any information that can help police,
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you can call the BTK tip line.
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The number, two-six-eight-four-one-seven-four,
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open from 8:00 to 5:00, Monday through Friday.
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The phones began to ring, and they didn't stop.
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Four hundred or more tips in the first 24 hours.
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By 48 hours, it was over a thousand tips.
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People were calling in from all over the country.
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They suspected so-and-so is BTK.
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It was almost overwhelming.
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But we had a huge advantage in 2004 than any detective that touched this case.
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DNA technology is a huge asset to investigators.
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Cops back in the day took really good care of the evidence from the crime scenes.
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And so, we were able to get DNA profiles of BTK
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that were left in the Otero home in 1974.
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Every time we got a potential suspect,
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all I had to do was go get their DNA,
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and the DNA would tell us if it was him or not.
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We worked all hours.
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Dana and I became fans of Diet Mountain Dew
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because of its high caffeine content.
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And we were eating out three times a day.
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Cheeseburgers and chicken fried steak for dinner.
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Food that was not good for you.
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Your family suffered because BTK was all you'd think about.
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Catching him was all you're driven to do.
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Living like that, you know, was difficult.
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There was some frustration that we were going into
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six, seven months now,
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and we had no good suspects.
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It's a grind on you, and it's a grind for your family.
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If I knew it was gonna be a long night, I'd just go home,
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kiss my wife and, uh, just looked in on the kids.
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You can get a little stream of light pretty quickly from those kids.
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But then, afterwards, I went right back to work.
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I was in the office working late when I got a call.
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An unusual package was discovered
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taped to a stop sign at First and Kansas.
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Inside, there were multiple index cards.
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And the title was "Death on a Cold January Morning."
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It was an absolute blow-for-blow about what happened in the Otero house.
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How he came to the decision to pick the Oteros,
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how he approached the house,
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what he did with each victim.
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It contained so much detail, there was little doubt that it was BTK.
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I have five children, and, at that time,
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my oldest child was
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about ten years old.
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The thought that he could strangle a child,
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the thought that he could hang a child...
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You certainly realized the depravity of it.
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We had to stop him from doing it again.
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Police say they are still receiving tips
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and want the public to continue to call the BTK tip line.
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The number, two-six-eight-four-one-seven...
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Saturday night, I'm going through tips, and I find one I found very interesting.
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This gentleman matched what we knew about BTK.
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The consensus was BTK would be extremely smart,
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probably lived alone.
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An eyewitness at the Kathryn Bright murder,
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back in the '70s,
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believed BTK had to be in his twenties,
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and that would now put him in his fifties.
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The person named in the tip was a professor, kind of a shut-in.
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He'd lived with his mother up until her death.
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So, I got a hold of my brother Dana and said,
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"Come with me, this one's kind of different."
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We didn't have a really good suspect very often.
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There's a possibility this person could be BTK.
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And I can hear footsteps in the house.
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And the door slowly starts to open.
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I see the tip of a butcher knife.
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I said, "This is the Wichita Police.
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I need to ask a few questions,
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but I'd really like you to put that knife away."
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Dana and I are looking at each other like, "This is kind of weird."
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He comes back, and he opens the door,
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then turns around and walks inside.
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It was dusty, and dingy, and dark.
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Your eyes take some time to adjust.
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Kelly's talking to him about, you know, getting a DNA swab from him.
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And I'm looking around, and I see all these ropes tied in knots.
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Bind, torture, and kill.
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That, of course, makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
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I'm trying to draw Kelly's attention to this.
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And then my flashlight lands on an engineering book.
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When BTK sent his very first letter in the '70s,
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he put it in this book at the library,
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and the book was Applied Engineering Mechanics.
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So, now I'm in this house with this gentleman
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who fits the age profile
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and obviously likes knots.
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And now he has an engineering book,
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and I thought, "Holy cow, this could be the guy."
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Finally, he allowed me to take his DNA.
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And as we were walking out of the house,
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I got goosebumps.
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Evidence was taken to the Forensic Science Center to be tested.
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I had them move it to the front of the line, because I thought,
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"If anybody is gonna be him that I dealt with, it'll be this guy."
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Two days later...
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I got a call.
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Said, "Nope, no match."
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I was disappointed, for sure.
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I thought we were talking to BTK, and we weren't.
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Another possible communication from BTK,
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a suspicious letter left at the downtown library.
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- Okay.
- All right.
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What he said was, "I have spotted a female, a latchkey kid.
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Just got to work out the details.
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I'm much older and have to condition myself carefully.
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I think fall or winter will be just right for the hit."
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He was telling us he had a victim picked out
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who was probably a child.
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And that was petrifying for all of us.
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We believed that he had just become more emboldened
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because we hadn't caught him.
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The stress was... was climbing really, really high.
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Now, would this latest letter be a warning?
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Wichita Police seem concerned BTK might strike again.
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When I got home late, I'd turn on some mindless TV show.
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And I might drink a little bit of a good whiskey.
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And then I'd go crawl in bed.
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But my brain would begin to spin.
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So, I'd get out of bed, shower, shave, put on a clean suit,
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and go back to work.
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There were times I'd roll in at 4:00 a.m.,
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and there'd be another detective who couldn't sleep.
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And so we would sit in the task force office
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talking about theories and strategy.
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And what in the heck can we do to stop him?
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This is KAKE News.
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It appears BTK is communicating again.
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KAKE TV receiving another mysterious message today.
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Investigators arrived minutes later
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to pick up the postcard and evaluate it.
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BTK had written,
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"Where between 69th Street North and 77th Street North on Seneca Street?"
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Which is north of Wichita out into a rural area.
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And then it said, "Have you or PD received number seven
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at Home Depot drop site
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January 8 of '05?"
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So, he was telling us about two packages that hadn't been recovered.
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That was huge.
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It was game on at that point.
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I drove up to North Seneca to collect the first package.
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This was a secluded area.
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The road was sand and dirt,
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and leaning up against a street sign,
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there's a.
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Post Toasties cereal box.
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Cereal box for a serial killer, I guess.
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Inside it was a cheap doll...
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tied to a sewer pipe.
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It was sickening.
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He was trying to make this look like Josephine Otero.
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The idea that he might kill someone else,
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that it may be a kid,
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you know, was taken to heart by everybody on the task force.
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If you wanna kick a police department into high gear,
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just threaten children.
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You're just pressing all the buttons to get a police department fired up.
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I drove to the Home Depot to see if we could recover the other package.
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We didn't know what we were looking for.
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We went all over that store...
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and just did not find anything.
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So, we put a sign there to ask anybody if they saw anything unusual.
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Our concern is that it'd been found and disposed of.
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That people didn't recognize it for what it was and thrown it away.
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It was after midnight.
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I got a call from the 911 dispatcher,
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and she said they had had a phone call from a gentleman,
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and that he was an employee of Home Depot.
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He recalled finding something suspicious in the bed of his pickup truck,
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which was parked in the parking lot.
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I called him and I asked him what he thought was suspicious,
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and he said, "It was a cereal box."
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I said, "Well, where is that now?"
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And he said, "I have it on my kitchen table."
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Inside, there was another note.
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Okay. All right.
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You ready?
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We're ready.
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"Can I communicate with floppy
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and not be traced to a computer?
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Be honest.
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I will try a floppy for a test run sometime in the near future.
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February or March."
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This was a bad strategy on his part.
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Some things are deposited upon floppies or thumb drives
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when you put them in a computer.
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Most people don't realize that,
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and we were way willing to bet that he didn't realize it.
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He wanted us to respond by taking out a personal ad in the newspaper,
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and he wanted us to refer to him as Rex.
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The decision was made that we weren't gonna be honest with him.
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And so, we put an ad in the paper that said,
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"Rex, it'll be okay."
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You just felt the pendulum moving.
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We were gaining ground on him.
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The employee that found the package was able to pinpoint the date
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when the package ended up in his vehicle.
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Home Depot had an extensive video surveillance system.
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Maybe we'd capture video of BTK coming in and leaving.
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The video was pretty grainy,
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so fuzzy, you're... you're not gonna make any ID.
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But as it pulled away,
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we were able to get some good shots of the side of the vehicle.
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We watched it
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repeatedly.
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Sizing it up against other cars.
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Ground clearance, the wheelbase,
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the rake of the windshield.
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We sent a bunch of those pictures to video forensics.
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And pretty quickly, they came back with a confirmation.
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The vehicle's a Jeep Cherokee.
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That's investigative gold.
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You know, we knew he had a Cherokee. He was caught on video.
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Now he wants to send us a floppy?
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That's more mistakes in the last couple of weeks
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than he's made in 31 years.
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And you can only make mistakes so long and not be caught.
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Two weeks after putting the ad in the paper,
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Fox TV station, here in Wichita, got a package in the mail.
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I was really excited to go get it.
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I would probably
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own up to driving a little bit above the posted speed limit, yes.
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We gloved up.
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Pulled out this little postcard.
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And then...
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...there was a floppy disk.
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We were all gathered around.
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It was dead quiet.
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There was one document on there called "Test," a Word file.
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The software is licensed
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to Christ Lutheran Church.
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And this document was printed by a user named Dennis.
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A computer forensics examiner gets on the Internet
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and searches for Christ Lutheran Church...
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and the name Dennis...
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and comes up with the president of that congregation.
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Dennis Rader.
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When we ran him through local state and national databases,
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there was no criminal history whatsoever.
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Just looked like a normal guy.
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He was working for the city as a, uh, compliance officer.
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He was married, uh, had a daughter and a son.
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We got his address,
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and then we were headed out the door.
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It was like a race to drive by there.
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But I didn't drive fast enough.
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And Tim Relph beat us there
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because he drives that way.
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We knew the house'd be on the east side of the road.
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That driveway isn't visible
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until you get almost in front of the house.
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And...
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we saw the Cherokee.
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It was excitement. It was crazy excitement.
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00:27:03,955 --> 00:27:06,625
And I stomped on the accelerator, you know, spun the tires.
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I called the lieutenant, said,
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"Grab everybody you can get your hands on and come down.
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We're going through the door, he's there."
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And he said...
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"Stop.
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You guys need to come back."
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I knew we didn't have enough evidence to arrest him,
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00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,361
but you can see
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this is everything you've been working for not only in the last 11 months,
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00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:41,993
but... but as... as a policeman, as a homicide detective,
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00:27:42,077 --> 00:27:44,245
this... this is it.
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00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,247
And he wants me to turn and leave,
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00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:47,331
and I'm like...
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You know, that...
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That's a tough, tough phone call.
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00:27:53,922 --> 00:27:57,050
You got to turn your car and you got to head back to Wichita.
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00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,521
The research into Dennis Rader was in full overdrive.
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00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,358
It was like, learn everything we can about this guy.
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00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:17,696
Is there someplace we can find his DNA?
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00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:22,158
And that's when we discovered
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one of his children had attended Kansas State University.
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Most female students can have free checkups,
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00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:37,382
so we wondered if maybe she had an exam that would have saved any of her DNA.
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00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,844
Because a familial DNA match
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would be enough for us to arrest Dennis Rader.
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00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:48,226
We were able to seize that DNA.
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00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:52,480
And then we were just on hold
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waiting for the results.
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00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,612
And then my cell phone rang.
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That was a, um...
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That's probably the happiest phone call I ever got in my life, truly.
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00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:19,758
Dennis Rader's BTK.
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It's him.
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I drove to our task force office.
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00:29:30,894 --> 00:29:32,061
Dana was already there.
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00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:34,397
Tim's already there.
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00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:37,984
We were ready to take this guy off the street,
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put him in prison for the rest of his life.
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00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:45,867
But then the next morning,
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00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:50,914
the chief wanted the SWAT team to arrest Dennis Rader.
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00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:55,376
I said, "Chief, um, we want to arrest him.
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00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:58,505
We're the ones that have been chasing him for 11 months.
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00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:01,341
We can arrest him just as easy as a SWAT team."
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00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:04,385
And he kind of gave me the look like, you know,
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00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:06,221
maybe I was a little bit out of line.
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00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:08,223
Kelly Otis would have burned his house down
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00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:10,183
if we didn't get a chance to arrest him.
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00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,102
And the chief said, "Okay."
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00:30:20,401 --> 00:30:23,530
He worked in this office up here, just south of 61st.
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00:30:24,739 --> 00:30:28,159
But we knew that we had to keep this a very low-key takedown.
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00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:31,079
So, our plan was to line up on a side street,
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00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:34,791
and as soon as we knew he was coming home, we would set up the arrest.
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00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:40,463
The helicopter above,
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00:30:40,547 --> 00:30:43,007
it's telling us, uh, where he's located,
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00:30:43,091 --> 00:30:44,509
so we know he's on his way.
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00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:50,932
He's been stopped on that curb line.
447
00:30:52,433 --> 00:30:54,894
I'm in between these two cars with a 12-gauge shotgun,
448
00:30:54,978 --> 00:30:56,563
just in case he came out armed.
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00:30:58,439 --> 00:31:01,526
The detectives grabbed him, pulled him out of the truck,
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00:31:01,609 --> 00:31:03,778
and put him face down in the middle of the street.
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00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:08,032
I Immediately pulled my handcuffs out and cuffed him.
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I was glad to be the person to do that.
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00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:15,581
He's a big guy.
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Um, stocky, tall.
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He's wearing his uniform from his work day.
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00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:23,047
As we were getting ready to move him, he looked at us and said...
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"Would somebody please go tell my wife I won't be home for lunch?
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00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,387
I assume you know where I live."
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00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:36,477
We wanted to get Dennis Rader out of here.
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00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:42,108
Now, we have to put 30 years of violent crimes together
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00:31:42,191 --> 00:31:43,943
to present to a judge and a jury.
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00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:45,612
So, the work was not done.
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00:31:49,073 --> 00:31:51,868
Dennis Rader was brought in to our headquarters.
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He was escorted to the fifth floor, where we had a room already prepared.
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There was an FBI agent and a lieutenant in the Homicide section.
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Impressive people, impressive credentials
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00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:12,305
appealing to his narcissistic side.
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00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:18,561
The rest of us were watching over closed-circuit TV.
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00:32:19,646 --> 00:32:22,148
Is he gonna talk? Is he gonna deny?
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00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:25,068
Lots of anticipation.
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00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,158
As a suspect, I assume you have something on me,
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00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:34,160
otherwise you wouldn't have brought me in.
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00:32:34,827 --> 00:32:36,412
He seemed cocky.
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00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:39,874
He wasn't worried about what was gonna happen.
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00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:44,420
And then the lieutenant tells him,
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00:32:44,504 --> 00:32:46,464
"This is how we caught you."
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00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:49,926
Things have occurred medically with your children,
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00:32:50,009 --> 00:32:51,511
and those samples are saved.
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00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:55,264
That's what brings me to you.
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00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:58,142
That's why I know your... your DNA is gonna match BTK's.
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00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:01,354
So, why don't you just say it?
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00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:05,233
Say... say who you are.
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00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:13,573
BTK.
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00:33:17,036 --> 00:33:20,206
Then he talked... for hours.
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00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:27,171
Hours.
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00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:30,049
Gloating on what he did.
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00:33:33,636 --> 00:33:37,432
This is his greatest accomplishment, and he's never been able to talk about it.
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00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:39,684
And make no mistake about it, he's proud of it.
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00:33:40,268 --> 00:33:42,188
Then I whispered in her ear a little bit.
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00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:45,898
You know, I told her BTK was a bad guy.
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00:33:46,899 --> 00:33:49,027
That's when you get upset, when you get angry.
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00:33:52,238 --> 00:33:53,656
He had no remorse.
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None.
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I was really sick of him.
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The next morning, I... I went to church, you know, and just...
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Just praised God.
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00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,404
Okay.
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00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:47,418
This is such a bad idea. Us three on microphones right now.
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00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:49,419
Exactly.
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00:34:50,129 --> 00:34:53,841
- That is Dennis' most worst punishment.
- Yeah.
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00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:56,844
Not that he's locked up, but that nobody gives a shit about him.
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00:34:56,928 --> 00:34:57,928
Yeah.
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00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:01,099
This man that had infected my childhood,
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00:35:01,182 --> 00:35:02,308
you know, he was done.
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00:35:03,142 --> 00:35:07,105
Few people get the chance to vanquish their tormentors like that.
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00:35:07,188 --> 00:35:10,024
Very few people get to slay their childhood dragons.
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