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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,225 --> 00:00:19,686 This captain comes into our Homicide Unit 2 00:00:19,769 --> 00:00:21,521 holding an envelope in his hand. 3 00:00:23,398 --> 00:00:25,191 And he gave it to my partner, Dana. 4 00:00:28,403 --> 00:00:30,321 Inside was a photocopy 5 00:00:31,072 --> 00:00:32,866 of three Polaroid photos 6 00:00:32,949 --> 00:00:36,161 of a dead woman that I recognized as Vicki Wegerle. 7 00:00:38,496 --> 00:00:42,333 Vicki Wegerle was a homicide victim from 1986, 8 00:00:42,417 --> 00:00:45,920 but the police department doesn't take pictures of crime victims 9 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:46,838 with a Polaroid. 10 00:00:46,921 --> 00:00:50,216 Somebody obviously took her picture as she was dying. 11 00:00:54,929 --> 00:00:56,056 At the very bottom, 12 00:00:56,139 --> 00:01:00,643 was the symbol used by a serial killer who started killing in 1974. 13 00:01:00,727 --> 00:01:04,314 The victims had been bound, gagged and strangled with a cord. 14 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:07,400 It'd been decades since his last communication. 15 00:01:07,484 --> 00:01:11,154 A plastic bag over her head, and a cord looped around her neck. 16 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:14,783 Most people thought that he was either in prison, or dead, 17 00:01:14,866 --> 00:01:15,866 or moved away. 18 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:18,912 My boss looked over that letter. 19 00:01:19,662 --> 00:01:21,206 I'll never forget what he said. 20 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:24,083 "Gentlemen... 21 00:01:25,043 --> 00:01:28,546 hug and kiss your families, because we're gonna work for a long time." 22 00:01:33,218 --> 00:01:34,219 "BTK is back." 23 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:04,332 Okay, we're recording. 24 00:02:04,415 --> 00:02:05,415 Okay. 25 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:07,627 My name is Kelly Otis, and in 2004, 26 00:02:07,710 --> 00:02:10,505 I was a homicide detective with the Wichita Police Department. 27 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:18,388 When I was young, my father died, 28 00:02:18,471 --> 00:02:20,849 and I was raised by a very strong single mother. 29 00:02:22,267 --> 00:02:24,894 At the age of 21, I entered the police academy. 30 00:02:24,978 --> 00:02:28,648 I did 11 years in patrol, and then I got promoted to detective. 31 00:02:30,066 --> 00:02:33,027 And that's when I started working with my partner, Dana. 32 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:43,121 I've always wanted to be a detective, ever since I was a little kid. 33 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:48,209 I just didn't take people committing heinous crimes 34 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:51,337 and getting away with it very well. 35 00:02:52,797 --> 00:02:55,091 When we got the letter from BTK, 36 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:57,927 we put together a task force including Kelly Otis... 37 00:02:58,011 --> 00:02:59,470 How's that sound? Is that okay? 38 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:02,974 ...myself and Tim Relph. 39 00:03:07,979 --> 00:03:10,815 I remember BTK well from my childhood. 40 00:03:11,441 --> 00:03:14,402 The daughter was found hanging from a pipe in the basement. 41 00:03:14,485 --> 00:03:17,572 You didn't have to worry about the bogeyman or anything like that. 42 00:03:18,781 --> 00:03:22,577 Your fear was this brutal murderer. 43 00:03:22,660 --> 00:03:23,953 What leads do you have? 44 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:27,415 Well, very honestly, we have... no solid leads at all. 45 00:03:31,127 --> 00:03:32,420 Once he reemerged, 46 00:03:32,503 --> 00:03:34,547 you know exactly what your task is. 47 00:03:36,257 --> 00:03:39,844 It's time for us... to catch that guy. 48 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:48,937 I started looking through the old files, 49 00:03:49,687 --> 00:03:52,357 photographs, and the diagrams of the crime scene. 50 00:03:55,652 --> 00:03:59,364 The first murders attributed to BTK, 51 00:03:59,948 --> 00:04:02,158 um, were the Oteros. 52 00:04:04,202 --> 00:04:08,289 The BTK story goes back to January of 1974. 53 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:11,584 BTK cut the phone lines at the back of the house. 54 00:04:12,835 --> 00:04:16,881 And he entered through the back door, ended up taking control of the family. 55 00:04:18,049 --> 00:04:19,884 Strangling Mr. Otero. 56 00:04:22,345 --> 00:04:23,513 Mrs. Otero. 57 00:04:25,223 --> 00:04:26,849 And the young boy. 58 00:04:30,019 --> 00:04:32,855 He then took Josephine Otero to the basement. 59 00:04:34,607 --> 00:04:38,236 She was bound up and then hung from a sewer pipe. 60 00:04:42,532 --> 00:04:45,368 Josephine Otero was just 11 years old. 61 00:04:46,786 --> 00:04:49,122 I had kids at the time, 62 00:04:49,205 --> 00:04:52,125 and I found it extremely disturbing looking at those pictures. 63 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:54,585 It... It was horrendous. 64 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:59,299 And you... you can't unsee something, right? 65 00:05:06,347 --> 00:05:08,725 BTK's second murder was Kathryn Bright. 66 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:16,149 His next victim was a single mother, 67 00:05:16,232 --> 00:05:17,317 Shirley Vian. 68 00:05:21,612 --> 00:05:23,698 And then there was Nancy Fox, 69 00:05:24,532 --> 00:05:26,451 who was bound and tortured. 70 00:05:30,913 --> 00:05:32,749 He sent multiple communications 71 00:05:32,832 --> 00:05:36,294 to media outlets describing what he did. 72 00:05:36,961 --> 00:05:39,505 "The code words for me will be bind them, 73 00:05:39,589 --> 00:05:40,882 torture them, 74 00:05:40,965 --> 00:05:41,965 kill them. 75 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:43,968 BTK." 76 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:54,187 We talked about it a lot, and we agreed 77 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:57,607 that if he would start sending letters like he did back in the '70s, 78 00:05:57,690 --> 00:05:59,233 we'd have a shot at catching him. 79 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:04,947 Now we have much better fingerprinting and DNA testing. 80 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:08,701 If he made one mistake, our unit would be able to pick up on that. 81 00:06:14,457 --> 00:06:17,335 BTK was serious about wanting to spread panic, 82 00:06:17,418 --> 00:06:18,711 wanting to spread fear. 83 00:06:19,587 --> 00:06:22,215 National attention is exactly what he wanted. 84 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:24,550 And so we used the media 85 00:06:24,634 --> 00:06:27,178 to appeal to his narcissistic side. 86 00:06:28,346 --> 00:06:30,139 Wichita Police Department, on Friday, 87 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:33,726 received a letter that most likely came from BTK. 88 00:06:34,310 --> 00:06:37,897 There was hope he would send additional packages or letters 89 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:40,358 without actually killing someone new. 90 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:44,195 This is one of the most challenging cases I've ever been involved with, 91 00:06:44,278 --> 00:06:46,823 and I find the individual that is doing this 92 00:06:46,906 --> 00:06:48,825 would be very interesting to talk to. 93 00:06:49,826 --> 00:06:52,662 A serial killer apparently has resurfaced. 94 00:06:52,745 --> 00:06:55,957 The killer breaking his silence after 25 years. 95 00:06:56,582 --> 00:06:59,377 People immediately fell back into their fears. 96 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:01,129 Maybe he's a little closer. 97 00:07:01,212 --> 00:07:02,130 It's stressful. 98 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,213 Could be 99 00:07:04,090 --> 00:07:05,007 the guy next door. 100 00:07:05,091 --> 00:07:06,759 I... You know, I have no clue. 101 00:07:09,762 --> 00:07:11,889 It had been a little bit over six weeks. 102 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:14,642 We hadn't heard anything from BTK. 103 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,520 And finally... 104 00:07:21,816 --> 00:07:23,234 ...we get this phone call. 105 00:07:24,318 --> 00:07:26,028 Good evening. We have exclusive details 106 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:29,866 on new communication that could be from the serial killer BTK. 107 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:32,577 When we opened it up, we weren't sure what we'd find. 108 00:07:32,660 --> 00:07:34,328 The contents looked very suspicious. 109 00:07:34,412 --> 00:07:37,165 The news station had received communication 110 00:07:37,248 --> 00:07:38,458 allegedly from BTK. 111 00:07:39,333 --> 00:07:41,293 The police were called, and in no time, 112 00:07:41,335 --> 00:07:43,880 a detective arrived to retrieve the letter, 113 00:07:43,963 --> 00:07:47,925 to see if it contains the clues needed to track down BTK. 114 00:07:51,596 --> 00:07:55,183 When we got it back up to the crime lab, oh, I was extremely excited. 115 00:07:57,101 --> 00:07:59,270 Maybe we'd get some DNA off the envelope. 116 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,190 Maybe we'd get a hair sample. 117 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:06,027 But when we opened it up... 118 00:08:09,113 --> 00:08:10,615 it was extremely bizarre. 119 00:08:13,451 --> 00:08:15,161 Inside of that package, 120 00:08:15,703 --> 00:08:17,455 had a word-search puzzle. 121 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:23,920 We found words like "victim." 122 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:26,588 "Follow." 123 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,634 And then "insurance man." 124 00:08:30,384 --> 00:08:31,511 "Lost pet." 125 00:08:32,053 --> 00:08:33,429 "Serviceman." 126 00:08:35,932 --> 00:08:38,142 He was playing a game with us. 127 00:08:39,310 --> 00:08:42,230 And I think that he was having fun with it. 128 00:08:45,066 --> 00:08:47,818 When the crime lab processed the evidence, 129 00:08:48,444 --> 00:08:51,614 there was no DNA, no hairs, no fibers, no fingerprints. 130 00:08:52,573 --> 00:08:54,158 And it was so frustrating. 131 00:08:56,911 --> 00:08:59,205 If you have any information that can help police, 132 00:08:59,288 --> 00:09:01,207 you can call the BTK tip line. 133 00:09:01,290 --> 00:09:03,960 The number, two-six-eight-four-one-seven-four, 134 00:09:04,043 --> 00:09:06,170 open from 8:00 to 5:00, Monday through Friday. 135 00:09:09,924 --> 00:09:12,009 The phones began to ring, and they didn't stop. 136 00:09:13,302 --> 00:09:16,430 Four hundred or more tips in the first 24 hours. 137 00:09:16,973 --> 00:09:19,392 By 48 hours, it was over a thousand tips. 138 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:23,145 People were calling in from all over the country. 139 00:09:23,229 --> 00:09:26,107 They suspected so-and-so is BTK. 140 00:09:27,149 --> 00:09:28,526 It was almost overwhelming. 141 00:09:29,735 --> 00:09:34,699 But we had a huge advantage in 2004 than any detective that touched this case. 142 00:09:35,950 --> 00:09:39,453 DNA technology is a huge asset to investigators. 143 00:09:39,954 --> 00:09:44,083 Cops back in the day took really good care of the evidence from the crime scenes. 144 00:09:45,459 --> 00:09:48,921 And so, we were able to get DNA profiles of BTK 145 00:09:49,005 --> 00:09:51,340 that were left in the Otero home in 1974. 146 00:09:53,050 --> 00:09:54,969 Every time we got a potential suspect, 147 00:09:55,052 --> 00:09:57,263 all I had to do was go get their DNA, 148 00:09:57,805 --> 00:09:59,932 and the DNA would tell us if it was him or not. 149 00:10:04,645 --> 00:10:05,896 We worked all hours. 150 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:09,025 Dana and I became fans of Diet Mountain Dew 151 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:10,818 because of its high caffeine content. 152 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:13,821 And we were eating out three times a day. 153 00:10:13,904 --> 00:10:16,157 Cheeseburgers and chicken fried steak for dinner. 154 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,075 Food that was not good for you. 155 00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:24,206 Your family suffered because BTK was all you'd think about. 156 00:10:25,082 --> 00:10:28,961 Catching him was all you're driven to do. 157 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:34,508 Living like that, you know, was difficult. 158 00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:45,311 There was some frustration that we were going into 159 00:10:45,394 --> 00:10:46,395 six, seven months now, 160 00:10:47,772 --> 00:10:50,232 and we had no good suspects. 161 00:10:53,069 --> 00:10:56,614 It's a grind on you, and it's a grind for your family. 162 00:10:59,617 --> 00:11:02,703 If I knew it was gonna be a long night, I'd just go home, 163 00:11:02,787 --> 00:11:05,247 kiss my wife and, uh, just looked in on the kids. 164 00:11:06,582 --> 00:11:09,794 You can get a little stream of light pretty quickly from those kids. 165 00:11:14,882 --> 00:11:18,260 But then, afterwards, I went right back to work. 166 00:11:24,892 --> 00:11:27,561 I was in the office working late when I got a call. 167 00:11:30,189 --> 00:11:32,024 An unusual package was discovered 168 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:34,527 taped to a stop sign at First and Kansas. 169 00:11:39,156 --> 00:11:42,118 Inside, there were multiple index cards. 170 00:11:43,202 --> 00:11:46,414 And the title was "Death on a Cold January Morning." 171 00:11:48,833 --> 00:11:52,628 It was an absolute blow-for-blow about what happened in the Otero house. 172 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,843 How he came to the decision to pick the Oteros, 173 00:11:59,427 --> 00:12:00,886 how he approached the house, 174 00:12:01,762 --> 00:12:03,264 what he did with each victim. 175 00:12:06,308 --> 00:12:10,146 It contained so much detail, there was little doubt that it was BTK. 176 00:12:18,028 --> 00:12:20,114 I have five children, and, at that time, 177 00:12:20,197 --> 00:12:21,741 my oldest child was 178 00:12:23,242 --> 00:12:24,242 about ten years old. 179 00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:28,706 The thought that he could strangle a child, 180 00:12:29,206 --> 00:12:31,083 the thought that he could hang a child... 181 00:12:32,042 --> 00:12:34,170 You certainly realized the depravity of it. 182 00:12:36,505 --> 00:12:38,549 We had to stop him from doing it again. 183 00:12:45,014 --> 00:12:47,014 Police say they are still receiving tips 184 00:12:47,057 --> 00:12:50,019 and want the public to continue to call the BTK tip line. 185 00:12:50,102 --> 00:12:52,062 The number, two-six-eight-four-one-seven... 186 00:12:52,146 --> 00:12:56,358 Saturday night, I'm going through tips, and I find one I found very interesting. 187 00:12:58,486 --> 00:13:02,239 This gentleman matched what we knew about BTK. 188 00:13:03,491 --> 00:13:07,411 The consensus was BTK would be extremely smart, 189 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:09,663 probably lived alone. 190 00:13:10,956 --> 00:13:13,501 An eyewitness at the Kathryn Bright murder, 191 00:13:13,584 --> 00:13:14,584 back in the '70s, 192 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:17,505 believed BTK had to be in his twenties, 193 00:13:17,588 --> 00:13:20,758 and that would now put him in his fifties. 194 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:26,430 The person named in the tip was a professor, kind of a shut-in. 195 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,184 He'd lived with his mother up until her death. 196 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,938 So, I got a hold of my brother Dana and said, 197 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,065 "Come with me, this one's kind of different." 198 00:13:38,901 --> 00:13:41,779 We didn't have a really good suspect very often. 199 00:13:42,780 --> 00:13:45,491 There's a possibility this person could be BTK. 200 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,746 And I can hear footsteps in the house. 201 00:13:52,289 --> 00:13:53,958 And the door slowly starts to open. 202 00:13:58,254 --> 00:13:59,839 I see the tip of a butcher knife. 203 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:04,260 I said, "This is the Wichita Police. 204 00:14:04,343 --> 00:14:05,761 I need to ask a few questions, 205 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:08,097 but I'd really like you to put that knife away." 206 00:14:11,809 --> 00:14:15,187 Dana and I are looking at each other like, "This is kind of weird." 207 00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:18,440 He comes back, and he opens the door, 208 00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,568 then turns around and walks inside. 209 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:29,910 It was dusty, and dingy, and dark. 210 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:32,538 Your eyes take some time to adjust. 211 00:14:34,582 --> 00:14:37,793 Kelly's talking to him about, you know, getting a DNA swab from him. 212 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:44,884 And I'm looking around, and I see all these ropes tied in knots. 213 00:14:47,845 --> 00:14:50,389 Bind, torture, and kill. 214 00:14:52,308 --> 00:14:55,728 That, of course, makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up. 215 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:00,399 I'm trying to draw Kelly's attention to this. 216 00:15:01,775 --> 00:15:04,778 And then my flashlight lands on an engineering book. 217 00:15:07,114 --> 00:15:10,409 When BTK sent his very first letter in the '70s, 218 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:13,370 he put it in this book at the library, 219 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:16,248 and the book was Applied Engineering Mechanics. 220 00:15:18,584 --> 00:15:20,794 So, now I'm in this house with this gentleman 221 00:15:20,878 --> 00:15:22,630 who fits the age profile 222 00:15:23,422 --> 00:15:25,549 and obviously likes knots. 223 00:15:26,133 --> 00:15:28,052 And now he has an engineering book, 224 00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:31,263 and I thought, "Holy cow, this could be the guy." 225 00:15:33,349 --> 00:15:35,309 Finally, he allowed me to take his DNA. 226 00:15:37,061 --> 00:15:39,229 And as we were walking out of the house, 227 00:15:39,313 --> 00:15:40,439 I got goosebumps. 228 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:46,278 Evidence was taken to the Forensic Science Center to be tested. 229 00:15:47,446 --> 00:15:50,407 I had them move it to the front of the line, because I thought, 230 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,327 "If anybody is gonna be him that I dealt with, it'll be this guy." 231 00:16:00,250 --> 00:16:01,251 Two days later... 232 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:03,544 I got a call. 233 00:16:06,674 --> 00:16:07,841 Said, "Nope, no match." 234 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,846 I was disappointed, for sure. 235 00:16:14,598 --> 00:16:17,184 I thought we were talking to BTK, and we weren't. 236 00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:25,359 Another possible communication from BTK, 237 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:28,195 a suspicious letter left at the downtown library. 238 00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:31,115 - Okay. - All right. 239 00:16:32,366 --> 00:16:36,412 What he said was, "I have spotted a female, a latchkey kid. 240 00:16:37,955 --> 00:16:39,748 Just got to work out the details. 241 00:16:40,666 --> 00:16:44,003 I'm much older and have to condition myself carefully. 242 00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:47,881 I think fall or winter will be just right for the hit." 243 00:16:50,718 --> 00:16:52,720 He was telling us he had a victim picked out 244 00:16:52,803 --> 00:16:54,179 who was probably a child. 245 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,182 And that was petrifying for all of us. 246 00:17:00,227 --> 00:17:04,064 We believed that he had just become more emboldened 247 00:17:04,148 --> 00:17:05,607 because we hadn't caught him. 248 00:17:13,574 --> 00:17:16,910 The stress was... was climbing really, really high. 249 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:24,126 Now, would this latest letter be a warning? 250 00:17:24,209 --> 00:17:28,505 Wichita Police seem concerned BTK might strike again. 251 00:17:31,508 --> 00:17:35,012 When I got home late, I'd turn on some mindless TV show. 252 00:17:37,181 --> 00:17:40,184 And I might drink a little bit of a good whiskey. 253 00:17:41,226 --> 00:17:42,603 And then I'd go crawl in bed. 254 00:17:48,233 --> 00:17:50,652 But my brain would begin to spin. 255 00:17:52,488 --> 00:17:56,158 So, I'd get out of bed, shower, shave, put on a clean suit, 256 00:17:57,367 --> 00:17:58,410 and go back to work. 257 00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,000 There were times I'd roll in at 4:00 a.m., 258 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,669 and there'd be another detective who couldn't sleep. 259 00:18:09,129 --> 00:18:11,673 And so we would sit in the task force office 260 00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:14,259 talking about theories and strategy. 261 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:19,640 And what in the heck can we do to stop him? 262 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:28,065 This is KAKE News. 263 00:18:28,148 --> 00:18:31,235 It appears BTK is communicating again. 264 00:18:31,318 --> 00:18:34,655 KAKE TV receiving another mysterious message today. 265 00:18:34,738 --> 00:18:36,615 Investigators arrived minutes later 266 00:18:36,698 --> 00:18:39,284 to pick up the postcard and evaluate it. 267 00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:42,121 BTK had written, 268 00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:48,752 "Where between 69th Street North and 77th Street North on Seneca Street?" 269 00:18:48,836 --> 00:18:52,005 Which is north of Wichita out into a rural area. 270 00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:55,300 And then it said, "Have you or PD received number seven 271 00:18:55,384 --> 00:18:56,802 at Home Depot drop site 272 00:18:56,885 --> 00:18:58,387 January 8 of '05?" 273 00:18:59,638 --> 00:19:03,225 So, he was telling us about two packages that hadn't been recovered. 274 00:19:04,685 --> 00:19:05,685 That was huge. 275 00:19:06,228 --> 00:19:07,938 It was game on at that point. 276 00:19:12,484 --> 00:19:16,488 I drove up to North Seneca to collect the first package. 277 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:23,495 This was a secluded area. 278 00:19:24,913 --> 00:19:27,875 The road was sand and dirt, 279 00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:31,044 and leaning up against a street sign, 280 00:19:31,879 --> 00:19:32,879 there's a. 281 00:19:33,964 --> 00:19:36,175 Post Toasties cereal box. 282 00:19:38,260 --> 00:19:41,513 Cereal box for a serial killer, I guess. 283 00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:47,436 Inside it was a cheap doll... 284 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:51,148 tied to a sewer pipe. 285 00:19:55,319 --> 00:19:56,320 It was sickening. 286 00:19:58,197 --> 00:20:01,074 He was trying to make this look like Josephine Otero. 287 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:08,665 The idea that he might kill someone else, 288 00:20:09,374 --> 00:20:11,043 that it may be a kid, 289 00:20:11,126 --> 00:20:14,755 you know, was taken to heart by everybody on the task force. 290 00:20:18,258 --> 00:20:20,653 If you wanna kick a police department into high gear, 291 00:20:20,677 --> 00:20:21,887 just threaten children. 292 00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:26,850 You're just pressing all the buttons to get a police department fired up. 293 00:20:31,855 --> 00:20:35,359 I drove to the Home Depot to see if we could recover the other package. 294 00:20:36,860 --> 00:20:38,820 We didn't know what we were looking for. 295 00:20:40,447 --> 00:20:42,532 We went all over that store... 296 00:20:44,952 --> 00:20:47,162 and just did not find anything. 297 00:20:49,164 --> 00:20:52,542 So, we put a sign there to ask anybody if they saw anything unusual. 298 00:20:53,961 --> 00:20:56,421 Our concern is that it'd been found and disposed of. 299 00:20:56,505 --> 00:20:59,925 That people didn't recognize it for what it was and thrown it away. 300 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:13,230 It was after midnight. 301 00:21:14,481 --> 00:21:16,441 I got a call from the 911 dispatcher, 302 00:21:17,401 --> 00:21:20,279 and she said they had had a phone call from a gentleman, 303 00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:23,031 and that he was an employee of Home Depot. 304 00:21:25,242 --> 00:21:28,662 He recalled finding something suspicious in the bed of his pickup truck, 305 00:21:28,745 --> 00:21:30,414 which was parked in the parking lot. 306 00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:33,625 I called him and I asked him what he thought was suspicious, 307 00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:35,585 and he said, "It was a cereal box." 308 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:39,506 I said, "Well, where is that now?" 309 00:21:39,589 --> 00:21:42,592 And he said, "I have it on my kitchen table." 310 00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:50,142 Inside, there was another note. 311 00:21:51,643 --> 00:21:53,312 Okay. All right. 312 00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:55,062 You ready? 313 00:21:55,731 --> 00:21:57,399 We're ready. 314 00:21:57,482 --> 00:21:59,443 "Can I communicate with floppy 315 00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:02,321 and not be traced to a computer? 316 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:04,656 Be honest. 317 00:22:06,033 --> 00:22:10,120 I will try a floppy for a test run sometime in the near future. 318 00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:11,747 February or March." 319 00:22:14,374 --> 00:22:16,585 This was a bad strategy on his part. 320 00:22:17,294 --> 00:22:20,088 Some things are deposited upon floppies or thumb drives 321 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:21,631 when you put them in a computer. 322 00:22:21,715 --> 00:22:23,258 Most people don't realize that, 323 00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:26,261 and we were way willing to bet that he didn't realize it. 324 00:22:27,971 --> 00:22:31,767 He wanted us to respond by taking out a personal ad in the newspaper, 325 00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:35,354 and he wanted us to refer to him as Rex. 326 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:40,233 The decision was made that we weren't gonna be honest with him. 327 00:22:42,444 --> 00:22:45,280 And so, we put an ad in the paper that said, 328 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:47,074 "Rex, it'll be okay." 329 00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:53,121 You just felt the pendulum moving. 330 00:22:53,622 --> 00:22:55,123 We were gaining ground on him. 331 00:23:00,587 --> 00:23:05,509 The employee that found the package was able to pinpoint the date 332 00:23:05,592 --> 00:23:07,677 when the package ended up in his vehicle. 333 00:23:09,262 --> 00:23:12,391 Home Depot had an extensive video surveillance system. 334 00:23:13,141 --> 00:23:16,144 Maybe we'd capture video of BTK coming in and leaving. 335 00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:20,023 The video was pretty grainy, 336 00:23:20,107 --> 00:23:22,567 so fuzzy, you're... you're not gonna make any ID. 337 00:23:23,902 --> 00:23:25,362 But as it pulled away, 338 00:23:25,445 --> 00:23:28,824 we were able to get some good shots of the side of the vehicle. 339 00:23:32,327 --> 00:23:33,327 We watched it 340 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:35,455 repeatedly. 341 00:23:37,124 --> 00:23:38,750 Sizing it up against other cars. 342 00:23:40,043 --> 00:23:42,254 Ground clearance, the wheelbase, 343 00:23:43,004 --> 00:23:44,381 the rake of the windshield. 344 00:23:48,301 --> 00:23:51,304 We sent a bunch of those pictures to video forensics. 345 00:23:52,556 --> 00:23:55,434 And pretty quickly, they came back with a confirmation. 346 00:23:58,562 --> 00:24:00,522 The vehicle's a Jeep Cherokee. 347 00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:03,358 That's investigative gold. 348 00:24:04,651 --> 00:24:07,446 You know, we knew he had a Cherokee. He was caught on video. 349 00:24:07,529 --> 00:24:09,656 Now he wants to send us a floppy? 350 00:24:09,739 --> 00:24:12,617 That's more mistakes in the last couple of weeks 351 00:24:12,701 --> 00:24:14,494 than he's made in 31 years. 352 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:18,623 And you can only make mistakes so long and not be caught. 353 00:24:23,044 --> 00:24:25,130 Two weeks after putting the ad in the paper, 354 00:24:25,213 --> 00:24:28,508 Fox TV station, here in Wichita, got a package in the mail. 355 00:24:29,801 --> 00:24:31,553 I was really excited to go get it. 356 00:24:32,596 --> 00:24:33,680 I would probably 357 00:24:34,764 --> 00:24:37,976 own up to driving a little bit above the posted speed limit, yes. 358 00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:42,939 We gloved up. 359 00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:46,151 Pulled out this little postcard. 360 00:24:48,361 --> 00:24:49,361 And then... 361 00:24:52,115 --> 00:24:53,366 ...there was a floppy disk. 362 00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:02,751 We were all gathered around. 363 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:08,172 It was dead quiet. 364 00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:14,429 There was one document on there called "Test," a Word file. 365 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:17,390 The software is licensed 366 00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:19,768 to Christ Lutheran Church. 367 00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:25,815 And this document was printed by a user named Dennis. 368 00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:32,322 A computer forensics examiner gets on the Internet 369 00:25:32,405 --> 00:25:35,116 and searches for Christ Lutheran Church... 370 00:25:36,743 --> 00:25:37,786 and the name Dennis... 371 00:25:40,914 --> 00:25:46,378 and comes up with the president of that congregation. 372 00:25:54,928 --> 00:25:55,929 Dennis Rader. 373 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:04,813 When we ran him through local state and national databases, 374 00:26:05,313 --> 00:26:07,607 there was no criminal history whatsoever. 375 00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:10,443 Just looked like a normal guy. 376 00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:15,448 He was working for the city as a, uh, compliance officer. 377 00:26:16,157 --> 00:26:18,994 He was married, uh, had a daughter and a son. 378 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:22,205 We got his address, 379 00:26:22,872 --> 00:26:25,166 and then we were headed out the door. 380 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,214 It was like a race to drive by there. 381 00:26:32,841 --> 00:26:34,884 But I didn't drive fast enough. 382 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,971 And Tim Relph beat us there 383 00:26:38,054 --> 00:26:39,973 because he drives that way. 384 00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:45,812 We knew the house'd be on the east side of the road. 385 00:26:47,147 --> 00:26:48,815 That driveway isn't visible 386 00:26:48,898 --> 00:26:50,900 until you get almost in front of the house. 387 00:26:52,902 --> 00:26:53,945 And... 388 00:26:55,488 --> 00:26:56,906 we saw the Cherokee. 389 00:27:01,911 --> 00:27:03,872 It was excitement. It was crazy excitement. 390 00:27:03,955 --> 00:27:06,625 And I stomped on the accelerator, you know, spun the tires. 391 00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,253 I called the lieutenant, said, 392 00:27:10,337 --> 00:27:13,006 "Grab everybody you can get your hands on and come down. 393 00:27:13,089 --> 00:27:15,258 We're going through the door, he's there." 394 00:27:16,509 --> 00:27:17,509 And he said... 395 00:27:18,303 --> 00:27:19,512 "Stop. 396 00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,432 You guys need to come back." 397 00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:31,608 I knew we didn't have enough evidence to arrest him, 398 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,361 but you can see 399 00:27:35,195 --> 00:27:38,823 this is everything you've been working for not only in the last 11 months, 400 00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:41,993 but... but as... as a policeman, as a homicide detective, 401 00:27:42,077 --> 00:27:44,245 this... this is it. 402 00:27:44,329 --> 00:27:46,247 And he wants me to turn and leave, 403 00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:47,331 and I'm like... 404 00:27:47,749 --> 00:27:48,792 You know, that... 405 00:27:49,709 --> 00:27:52,087 That's a tough, tough phone call. 406 00:27:53,922 --> 00:27:57,050 You got to turn your car and you got to head back to Wichita. 407 00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:09,521 The research into Dennis Rader was in full overdrive. 408 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,358 It was like, learn everything we can about this guy. 409 00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:17,696 Is there someplace we can find his DNA? 410 00:28:20,365 --> 00:28:22,158 And that's when we discovered 411 00:28:22,242 --> 00:28:25,412 one of his children had attended Kansas State University. 412 00:28:30,250 --> 00:28:32,794 Most female students can have free checkups, 413 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:37,382 so we wondered if maybe she had an exam that would have saved any of her DNA. 414 00:28:38,717 --> 00:28:40,844 Because a familial DNA match 415 00:28:40,927 --> 00:28:43,179 would be enough for us to arrest Dennis Rader. 416 00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:48,226 We were able to seize that DNA. 417 00:28:50,395 --> 00:28:52,480 And then we were just on hold 418 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:54,774 waiting for the results. 419 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,612 And then my cell phone rang. 420 00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:08,078 That was a, um... 421 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,919 That's probably the happiest phone call I ever got in my life, truly. 422 00:29:18,381 --> 00:29:19,758 Dennis Rader's BTK. 423 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:23,761 It's him. 424 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,059 I drove to our task force office. 425 00:29:30,894 --> 00:29:32,061 Dana was already there. 426 00:29:33,354 --> 00:29:34,397 Tim's already there. 427 00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:37,984 We were ready to take this guy off the street, 428 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:40,695 put him in prison for the rest of his life. 429 00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:45,867 But then the next morning, 430 00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:50,914 the chief wanted the SWAT team to arrest Dennis Rader. 431 00:29:52,373 --> 00:29:55,376 I said, "Chief, um, we want to arrest him. 432 00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:58,505 We're the ones that have been chasing him for 11 months. 433 00:29:58,588 --> 00:30:01,341 We can arrest him just as easy as a SWAT team." 434 00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:04,385 And he kind of gave me the look like, you know, 435 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:06,221 maybe I was a little bit out of line. 436 00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:08,223 Kelly Otis would have burned his house down 437 00:30:08,306 --> 00:30:10,183 if we didn't get a chance to arrest him. 438 00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,102 And the chief said, "Okay." 439 00:30:20,401 --> 00:30:23,530 He worked in this office up here, just south of 61st. 440 00:30:24,739 --> 00:30:28,159 But we knew that we had to keep this a very low-key takedown. 441 00:30:28,243 --> 00:30:31,079 So, our plan was to line up on a side street, 442 00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:34,791 and as soon as we knew he was coming home, we would set up the arrest. 443 00:30:38,419 --> 00:30:40,463 The helicopter above, 444 00:30:40,547 --> 00:30:43,007 it's telling us, uh, where he's located, 445 00:30:43,091 --> 00:30:44,509 so we know he's on his way. 446 00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:50,932 He's been stopped on that curb line. 447 00:30:52,433 --> 00:30:54,894 I'm in between these two cars with a 12-gauge shotgun, 448 00:30:54,978 --> 00:30:56,563 just in case he came out armed. 449 00:30:58,439 --> 00:31:01,526 The detectives grabbed him, pulled him out of the truck, 450 00:31:01,609 --> 00:31:03,778 and put him face down in the middle of the street. 451 00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:08,032 I Immediately pulled my handcuffs out and cuffed him. 452 00:31:10,785 --> 00:31:12,829 I was glad to be the person to do that. 453 00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:15,581 He's a big guy. 454 00:31:16,124 --> 00:31:17,542 Um, stocky, tall. 455 00:31:17,625 --> 00:31:19,544 He's wearing his uniform from his work day. 456 00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:23,047 As we were getting ready to move him, he looked at us and said... 457 00:31:24,507 --> 00:31:27,677 "Would somebody please go tell my wife I won't be home for lunch? 458 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,387 I assume you know where I live." 459 00:31:34,267 --> 00:31:36,477 We wanted to get Dennis Rader out of here. 460 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:42,108 Now, we have to put 30 years of violent crimes together 461 00:31:42,191 --> 00:31:43,943 to present to a judge and a jury. 462 00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:45,612 So, the work was not done. 463 00:31:49,073 --> 00:31:51,868 Dennis Rader was brought in to our headquarters. 464 00:31:54,245 --> 00:31:57,999 He was escorted to the fifth floor, where we had a room already prepared. 465 00:32:03,671 --> 00:32:06,966 There was an FBI agent and a lieutenant in the Homicide section. 466 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:09,719 Impressive people, impressive credentials 467 00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:12,305 appealing to his narcissistic side. 468 00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:18,561 The rest of us were watching over closed-circuit TV. 469 00:32:19,646 --> 00:32:22,148 Is he gonna talk? Is he gonna deny? 470 00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:25,068 Lots of anticipation. 471 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,158 As a suspect, I assume you have something on me, 472 00:32:32,241 --> 00:32:34,160 otherwise you wouldn't have brought me in. 473 00:32:34,827 --> 00:32:36,412 He seemed cocky. 474 00:32:37,622 --> 00:32:39,874 He wasn't worried about what was gonna happen. 475 00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:44,420 And then the lieutenant tells him, 476 00:32:44,504 --> 00:32:46,464 "This is how we caught you." 477 00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:49,926 Things have occurred medically with your children, 478 00:32:50,009 --> 00:32:51,511 and those samples are saved. 479 00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:55,264 That's what brings me to you. 480 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:58,142 That's why I know your... your DNA is gonna match BTK's. 481 00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:01,354 So, why don't you just say it? 482 00:33:03,856 --> 00:33:05,233 Say... say who you are. 483 00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:13,573 BTK. 484 00:33:17,036 --> 00:33:20,206 Then he talked... for hours. 485 00:33:26,170 --> 00:33:27,171 Hours. 486 00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:30,049 Gloating on what he did. 487 00:33:33,636 --> 00:33:37,432 This is his greatest accomplishment, and he's never been able to talk about it. 488 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:39,684 And make no mistake about it, he's proud of it. 489 00:33:40,268 --> 00:33:42,188 Then I whispered in her ear a little bit. 490 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:45,898 You know, I told her BTK was a bad guy. 491 00:33:46,899 --> 00:33:49,027 That's when you get upset, when you get angry. 492 00:33:52,238 --> 00:33:53,656 He had no remorse. 493 00:33:55,908 --> 00:33:56,908 None. 494 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:00,830 I was really sick of him. 495 00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:24,062 The next morning, I... I went to church, you know, and just... 496 00:34:27,899 --> 00:34:28,983 Just praised God. 497 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,404 Okay. 498 00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:47,418 This is such a bad idea. Us three on microphones right now. 499 00:34:48,419 --> 00:34:49,419 Exactly. 500 00:34:50,129 --> 00:34:53,841 - That is Dennis' most worst punishment. - Yeah. 501 00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:56,844 Not that he's locked up, but that nobody gives a shit about him. 502 00:34:56,928 --> 00:34:57,928 Yeah. 503 00:34:58,262 --> 00:35:01,099 This man that had infected my childhood, 504 00:35:01,182 --> 00:35:02,308 you know, he was done. 505 00:35:03,142 --> 00:35:07,105 Few people get the chance to vanquish their tormentors like that. 506 00:35:07,188 --> 00:35:10,024 Very few people get to slay their childhood dragons. 40160

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