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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:19,790 This captain comes into our Homicide Unit 2 00:00:19,870 --> 00:00:21,620 holding an envelope in his hand. 3 00:00:23,500 --> 00:00:25,290 And he gave it to my partner, Dana. 4 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:30,420 Inside was a photocopy 5 00:00:31,170 --> 00:00:32,970 of three Polaroid photos 6 00:00:33,050 --> 00:00:36,260 of a dead woman that I recognized as Vicki Wegerle. 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,430 Vicki Wegerle was a homicide victim from 1986, 8 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,020 but the police department doesn't take pictures of crime victims 9 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:46,940 with a Polaroid. 10 00:00:47,020 --> 00:00:50,320 Somebody obviously took her picture as she was dying. 11 00:00:55,030 --> 00:00:56,160 At the very bottom, 12 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,740 was the symbol used by a serial killer who started killing in 1974. 13 00:01:00,830 --> 00:01:04,410 The victims had been bound, gagged and strangled with a cord.. 14 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:07,500 It'd been decades since his last communication. 15 00:01:07,580 --> 00:01:11,250 A plastic bag over her head, and a cord looped around her neck.. 16 00:01:11,340 --> 00:01:14,880 Most people thought that he was either in prison, or dead, 17 00:01:14,970 --> 00:01:15,970 or moved away. 18 00:01:17,050 --> 00:01:19,010 My boss looked over that letter. 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,310 I'll never forget what he said. 20 00:01:23,180 --> 00:01:24,180 "Gentlemen… 21 00:01:25,140 --> 00:01:28,650 hug and kiss your families, because we're gonna work for a long time." 22 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:34,320 "BTK is back." 23 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,430 Okay, we're recording. 24 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Okay. 25 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,730 My name is Kelly Otis, and in 2004, 26 00:02:07,810 --> 00:02:10,610 I was a homicide detective with the Wichita Police Department. 27 00:02:16,110 --> 00:02:18,490 When I was young, my father died, 28 00:02:18,570 --> 00:02:20,950 and I was raised by a very strong single mother. 29 00:02:22,370 --> 00:02:24,990 At the age of 21, I entered the police academy. 30 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,750 I did 11 years in patrol, and then I got promoted to detective. 31 00:02:30,170 --> 00:02:33,130 And that's when I started working with my partner, Dana. 32 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,220 I've always wanted to be a detective, ever since I was a little kid. 33 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:48,310 I just didn't take people committing heinous crimes 34 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:51,440 and getting away with it very well. 35 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:55,190 When we got the letter from BTK, 36 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:58,030 we put together a task force including Kelly Otis… 37 00:02:58,110 --> 00:02:59,570 How's that sound? Is that okay? 38 00:03:00,610 --> 00:03:03,070 …myself and Tim Relph. 39 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,920 I remember BTK well from my childhood. 40 00:03:11,540 --> 00:03:14,500 The daughter was found hanging from a pipe in the basement.. 41 00:03:14,590 --> 00:03:17,670 You didn't have to worry about the bogeyman or anything like that. 42 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,680 Your fear was this brutal murderer. 43 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,050 What leads do you have? 44 00:03:24,140 --> 00:03:27,520 Well, very honestly, we have… no solid leads at all. 45 00:03:31,230 --> 00:03:32,520 Once he reemerged, 46 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,650 you know exactly what your task is. 47 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,940 It's time for us… to catch that guy. 48 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:49,040 I started looking through the old files, 49 00:03:49,790 --> 00:03:52,460 photographs, and the diagrams of the crime scene. 50 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:59,460 The first murders attributed to BTK, 51 00:04:00,050 --> 00:04:02,260 um, were the Oteros. 52 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:08,390 The BTK story goes back to January of 1974.. 53 00:04:08,470 --> 00:04:11,680 BTK cut the phone lines at the back of the house. 54 00:04:12,940 --> 00:04:16,980 And he entered through the back door, ended up taking control of the family. 55 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:19,980 Strangling Mr. Otero. 56 00:04:22,450 --> 00:04:23,610 Mrs. Otero. 57 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,950 And the young boy. 58 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,960 He then took Josephine Otero to the basement. 59 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:38,340 She was bound up and then hung from a sewer pipe. 60 00:04:42,630 --> 00:04:45,470 Josephine Otero was just 11 years old. 61 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:49,220 I had kids at the time, 62 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:52,230 and I found it extremely disturbing looking at those pictures. 63 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:54,690 It... It was horrendous. 64 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:59,400 And you... you can't unsee something, right? 65 00:05:06,450 --> 00:05:08,830 BTK's second murder was Kathryn Bright. 66 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:16,250 His next victim was a single mother, 67 00:05:16,330 --> 00:05:17,420 Shirley Vian. 68 00:05:21,710 --> 00:05:23,800 And then there was Nancy Fox, 69 00:05:24,630 --> 00:05:26,550 who was bound and tortured. 70 00:05:31,010 --> 00:05:32,850 He sent multiple communications 71 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:36,390 to media outlets describing what he did. 72 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:39,610 "The code words for me will be bind them, 73 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:40,980 torture them, 74 00:05:41,070 --> 00:05:42,070 kill them. 75 00:05:42,570 --> 00:05:44,070 BTK." 76 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:54,290 We talked about it a lot, and we agreed 77 00:05:54,370 --> 00:05:57,710 that if he would start sending letters like he did back in the '70s, 78 00:05:57,790 --> 00:05:59,330 we'd have a shot at catching him. 79 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:05,050 Now we have much better fingerprinting and DNA testing. 80 00:06:05,130 --> 00:06:08,800 If he made one mistake, our unit would be able to pick up on that. 81 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,440 BTK was serious about wanting to spread panic, 82 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,810 wanting to spread fear. 83 00:06:19,690 --> 00:06:22,320 National attention is exactly what he wanted. 84 00:06:22,940 --> 00:06:24,650 And so we used the media 85 00:06:24,730 --> 00:06:27,280 to appeal to his narcissistic side. 86 00:06:28,450 --> 00:06:30,240 Wichita Police Department, on Friday, 87 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,830 received a letter that most likely came from BTK.. 88 00:06:34,410 --> 00:06:38,000 There was hope he would send additional packages or letters 89 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,460 without actually killing someone new. 90 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:44,300 This is one of the most challenging cases I've ever been involved with, 91 00:06:44,380 --> 00:06:46,920 and I find the individual that is doing this 92 00:06:47,010 --> 00:06:48,930 would be very interesting to talk to.. 93 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:52,760 A serial killer apparently has resurfaced.. 94 00:06:52,850 --> 00:06:56,060 The killer breaking his silence after 25 years.. 95 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,480 People immediately fell back into their fears. 96 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,230 Maybe he's a little closer. 97 00:07:01,310 --> 00:07:02,230 It's stressful. 98 00:07:02,310 --> 00:07:03,310 Could be 99 00:07:04,190 --> 00:07:05,110 the guy next door. 100 00:07:05,190 --> 00:07:06,860 I... You know, I have no clue. 101 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:11,990 It had been a little bit over six weeks. 102 00:07:12,490 --> 00:07:14,740 We hadn't heard anything from BTK. 103 00:07:17,620 --> 00:07:18,620 And finally… 104 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,330 …we get this phone call. 105 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:26,130 Good evening. We have exclusive details 106 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:29,970 on new communication that could be from the serial killer BTK. 107 00:07:30,050 --> 00:07:32,680 When we opened it up, we weren't sure what we'd find. 108 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,430 The contents looked very suspicious. 109 00:07:34,510 --> 00:07:37,270 The news station had received communication 110 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:38,560 allegedly from BTK. 111 00:07:39,430 --> 00:07:41,350 The police were called, and in no time, 112 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,980 a detective arrived to retrieve the letter, 113 00:07:44,060 --> 00:07:48,030 to see if it contains the clues needed to track down BTK.. 114 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:55,280 When we got it back up to the crime lab, oh, I was extremely excited. 115 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,370 Maybe we'd get some DNA off the envelope. 116 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:02,290 Maybe we'd get a hair sample. 117 00:08:04,830 --> 00:08:06,130 But when we opened it up… 118 00:08:09,210 --> 00:08:10,720 it was extremely bizarre. 119 00:08:13,550 --> 00:08:15,260 Inside of that package, 120 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,560 had a word-search puzzle. 121 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:24,020 We found words like "victim." 122 00:08:25,690 --> 00:08:26,690 "Follow." 123 00:08:27,940 --> 00:08:29,730 And then "insurance man." 124 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,610 "Lost pet." 125 00:08:32,150 --> 00:08:33,530 "Serviceman." 126 00:08:36,030 --> 00:08:38,240 He was playing a game with us. 127 00:08:39,410 --> 00:08:42,330 And I think that he was having fun with it. 128 00:08:45,170 --> 00:08:47,920 When the crime lab processed the evidence, 129 00:08:48,540 --> 00:08:51,710 there was no DNA, no hairs, no fibers, no fingerprints. 130 00:08:52,670 --> 00:08:54,260 And it was so frustrating. 131 00:08:57,010 --> 00:08:59,310 If you have any information that can help police, 132 00:08:59,390 --> 00:09:01,310 you can call the BTK tip line. 133 00:09:01,390 --> 00:09:04,060 The number, two-six-eight-four-one-seven-four, 134 00:09:04,140 --> 00:09:06,270 open from 8:00 to 5:00, Monday through Friday. 135 00:09:10,020 --> 00:09:12,110 The phones began to ring, and they didn't stop. 136 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,530 Four hundred or more tips in the first 24 hours. 137 00:09:17,070 --> 00:09:19,490 By 48 hours, it was over a thousand tips. 138 00:09:20,330 --> 00:09:23,250 People were calling in from all over the country. 139 00:09:23,330 --> 00:09:26,210 They suspected so-and-so is BTK. 140 00:09:27,250 --> 00:09:28,630 It was almost overwhelming. 141 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,800 But we had a huge advantage in 2004 than any detective that touched this case. 142 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:39,550 DNA technology is a huge asset to investigators.. 143 00:09:40,050 --> 00:09:44,180 Cops back in the day took really good care of the evidence from the crime scenes. 144 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:49,020 And so, we were able to get DNA profiles of BTK 145 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:51,440 that were left in the Otero home in 1974. 146 00:09:53,150 --> 00:09:55,070 Every time we got a potential suspect, 147 00:09:55,150 --> 00:09:57,360 all I had to do was go get their DNA, 148 00:09:57,910 --> 00:10:00,030 and the DNA would tell us if it was him or not. 149 00:10:04,750 --> 00:10:06,000 We worked all hours. 150 00:10:06,540 --> 00:10:09,130 Dana and I became fans of Diet Mountain Dew 151 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:10,920 because of its high caffeine content. 152 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:13,920 And we were eating out three times a day. 153 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,260 Cheeseburgers and chicken fried steak for dinner. 154 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:18,180 Food that was not good for you. 155 00:10:19,890 --> 00:10:24,310 Your family suffered because BTK was all you'd think about. 156 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:29,060 Catching him was all you're driven to do. 157 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,610 Living like that, you know, was difficult. 158 00:10:42,580 --> 00:10:45,410 There was some frustration that we were going into 159 00:10:45,490 --> 00:10:46,500 six, seven months now, 160 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:50,330 and we had no good suspects. 161 00:10:53,170 --> 00:10:56,710 It's a grind on you, and it's a grind for your family. 162 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,800 If I knew it was gonna be a long night, I'd just go home, 163 00:11:02,890 --> 00:11:05,350 kiss my wife and, uh, just looked in on the kids. 164 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:09,890 You can get a little stream of light pretty quickly from those kids. 165 00:11:14,980 --> 00:11:18,360 But then, afterwards, I went right back to work. 166 00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:27,660 I was in the office working late when I got a call. 167 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:32,120 An unusual package was discovered 168 00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:34,630 taped to a stop sign at First and Kansas. 169 00:11:39,260 --> 00:11:42,220 Inside, there were multiple index cards. 170 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:46,510 And the title was "Death on a Cold January Morning." 171 00:11:48,930 --> 00:11:52,730 It was an absolute blow-for-blow about what happened in the Otero house. 172 00:11:55,940 --> 00:11:58,940 How he came to the decision to pick the Oteros, 173 00:11:59,530 --> 00:12:00,990 how he approached the house, 174 00:12:01,860 --> 00:12:03,360 what he did with each victim. 175 00:12:06,410 --> 00:12:10,250 It contained so much detail, there was little doubt that it was BTK. 176 00:12:18,130 --> 00:12:20,210 I have five children, and, at that time, 177 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:21,840 my oldest child was 178 00:12:23,340 --> 00:12:24,340 about ten years old. 179 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:28,810 The thought that he could strangle a child, 180 00:12:29,310 --> 00:12:31,180 the thought that he could hang a child… 181 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:34,270 You certainly realized the depravity of it. 182 00:12:36,610 --> 00:12:38,650 We had to stop him from doing it again. 183 00:12:45,110 --> 00:12:47,070 Police say they are still receiving tips 184 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,120 and want the public to continue to call the BTK tip line.. 185 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,160 The number, two-six-eight-four-one-seven… 186 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:56,460 Saturday night, I'm going through tips, and I find one I found very interesting. 187 00:12:58,590 --> 00:13:02,340 This gentleman matched what we knew about BTK. 188 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:07,510 The consensus was BTK would be extremely smart, 189 00:13:08,050 --> 00:13:09,760 probably lived alone. 190 00:13:11,060 --> 00:13:13,600 An eyewitness at the Kathryn Bright murder, 191 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:14,680 back in the '70s, 192 00:13:14,730 --> 00:13:17,610 believed BTK had to be in his twenties, 193 00:13:17,690 --> 00:13:20,860 and that would now put him in his fifties. 194 00:13:22,070 --> 00:13:26,530 The person named in the tip was a professor, kind of a shut-in. 195 00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:30,280 He'd lived with his mother up until her death. 196 00:13:31,620 --> 00:13:34,040 So, I got a hold of my brother Dana and said, 197 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,170 "Come with me, this one's kind of different." 198 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,880 We didn't have a really good suspect very often. 199 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,590 There's a possibility this person could be BTK. 200 00:13:48,930 --> 00:13:50,850 And I can hear footsteps in the house. 201 00:13:52,390 --> 00:13:54,060 And the door slowly starts to open. 202 00:13:58,350 --> 00:13:59,940 I see the tip of a butcher knife. 203 00:14:02,610 --> 00:14:04,360 I said, "This is the Wichita Police. 204 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,860 I need to ask a few questions, 205 00:14:05,940 --> 00:14:08,200 but I'd really like you to put that knife away." 206 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:15,290 Dana and I are looking at each other like, "This is kind of weird." 207 00:14:16,750 --> 00:14:18,540 He comes back, and he opens the door, 208 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,670 then turns around and walks inside. 209 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,010 It was dusty, and dingy, and dark. 210 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Your eyes take some time to adjust. 211 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,890 Kelly's talking to him about, you know, getting a DNA swab from him. 212 00:14:39,770 --> 00:14:44,980 And I'm looking around, and I see all these ropes tied in knots. 213 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:50,490 Bind, torture, and kill. 214 00:14:52,410 --> 00:14:55,830 That, of course, makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up. 215 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,500 I'm trying to draw Kelly's attention to this. 216 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,880 And then my flashlight lands on an engineering book. 217 00:15:07,210 --> 00:15:10,510 When BTK sent his very first letter in the '70s, 218 00:15:11,180 --> 00:15:13,470 he put it in this book at the library, 219 00:15:13,550 --> 00:15:16,350 and the book was Applied Engineering Mechanics. 220 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,890 So, now I'm in this house with this gentleman 221 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:22,730 who fits the age profile 222 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,650 and obviously likes knots. 223 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:28,150 And now he has an engineering book, 224 00:15:28,740 --> 00:15:31,360 and I thought, "Holy cow, this could be the guy." 225 00:15:33,450 --> 00:15:35,410 Finally, he allowed me to take his DNA. 226 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,330 And as we were walking out of the house, 227 00:15:39,410 --> 00:15:40,540 I got goosebumps. 228 00:15:43,130 --> 00:15:46,380 Evidence was taken to the Forensic Science Center to be tested. 229 00:15:47,550 --> 00:15:50,510 I had them move it to the front of the line, because I thought, 230 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:53,430 "If anybody is gonna be him that I dealt with, it'll be this guy." 231 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:01,350 Two days later… 232 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,640 I got a call. 233 00:16:06,770 --> 00:16:07,940 Said, "Nope, no match." 234 00:16:11,150 --> 00:16:12,950 I was disappointed, for sure. 235 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:17,280 I thought we were talking to BTK, and we weren't. 236 00:16:22,580 --> 00:16:25,460 Another possible communication from BTK, 237 00:16:25,540 --> 00:16:28,300 a suspicious letter left at the downtown library.. 238 00:16:30,050 --> 00:16:31,220 - Okay. - All right. 239 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:36,510 What he said was, "I have spotted a female, a latchkey kid. 240 00:16:38,060 --> 00:16:39,850 Just got to work out the details. 241 00:16:40,770 --> 00:16:44,100 I'm much older and have to condition myself carefully. 242 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,980 I think fall or winter will be just right for the hit." 243 00:16:50,820 --> 00:16:52,820 He was telling us he had a victim picked out 244 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:54,280 who was probably a child. 245 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:57,280 And that was petrifying for all of us. 246 00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:04,160 We believed that he had just become more emboldened 247 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:05,710 because we hadn't caught him.. 248 00:17:13,670 --> 00:17:17,010 The stress was... Was climbing really, really high. 249 00:17:21,970 --> 00:17:24,230 Now, would this latest letter be a warning?. 250 00:17:24,310 --> 00:17:28,610 Wichita Police seem concerned BTK might strike again.. 251 00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:35,110 When I got home late, I'd turn on some mindless TV show. 252 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,280 And I might drink a little bit of a good whiskey. 253 00:17:41,330 --> 00:17:42,700 And then I'd go crawl in bed. 254 00:17:48,330 --> 00:17:50,750 But my brain would begin to spin. 255 00:17:52,590 --> 00:17:56,260 So, I'd get out of bed, shower, shave, put on a clean suit, 256 00:17:57,470 --> 00:17:58,510 and go back to work. 257 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:05,100 There were times I'd roll in at 4:00 a.m., 258 00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:07,770 and there'd be another detective who couldn't sleep. 259 00:18:09,230 --> 00:18:11,770 And so we would sit in the task force office 260 00:18:11,860 --> 00:18:14,360 talking about theories and strategy. 261 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:19,740 And what in the heck can we do to stop him? 262 00:18:26,330 --> 00:18:28,170 This is KAKE News.. 263 00:18:28,250 --> 00:18:31,340 It appears BTK is communicating again.. 264 00:18:31,420 --> 00:18:34,760 KAKE TV receiving another mysterious message today.. 265 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,720 Investigators arrived minutes later 266 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,380 to pick up the postcard and evaluate it.. 267 00:18:40,890 --> 00:18:42,220 BTK had written, 268 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:48,850 "Where between 69th Street North and 77th Street North on Seneca Street?" 269 00:18:48,940 --> 00:18:52,110 Which is north of Wichita out into a rural area. 270 00:18:52,190 --> 00:18:55,400 And then it said, "Have you or PD received number seven 271 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,900 at Home Depot drop site 272 00:18:56,990 --> 00:18:58,490 January 8 of '05?" 273 00:18:59,740 --> 00:19:03,330 So, he was telling us about two packages that hadn't been recovered. 274 00:19:04,790 --> 00:19:05,790 That was huge. 275 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:08,040 It was game on at that point. 276 00:19:12,580 --> 00:19:16,590 I drove up to North Seneca to collect the first package. 277 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,600 This was a secluded area. 278 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:27,980 The road was sand and dirt, 279 00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:31,140 and leaning up against a street sign, 280 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:32,980 there's a. 281 00:19:34,060 --> 00:19:36,280 Post Toasties cereal box. 282 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,610 Cereal box for a serial killer, I guess. 283 00:19:45,370 --> 00:19:47,540 Inside it was a cheap doll… 284 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,250 tied to a sewer pipe. 285 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:56,420 It was sickening. 286 00:19:58,300 --> 00:20:01,170 He was trying to make this look like Josephine Otero. 287 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,770 The idea that he might kill someone else, 288 00:20:09,470 --> 00:20:11,140 that it may be a kid, 289 00:20:11,230 --> 00:20:14,860 you know, was taken to heart by everybody on the task force. 290 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:20,690 If you wanna kick a police department into high gear, 291 00:20:20,780 --> 00:20:21,990 just threaten children. 292 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,950 You're just pressing all the buttons to get a police department fired up. 293 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,460 I drove to the Home Depot to see if we could recover the other package. 294 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,920 We didn't know what we were looking for. 295 00:20:40,550 --> 00:20:42,630 We went all over that store… 296 00:20:45,050 --> 00:20:47,260 and just did not find anything. 297 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:52,640 So, we put a sign there to ask anybody if they saw anything unusual. 298 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:56,520 Our concern is that it'd been found and disposed of. 299 00:20:56,610 --> 00:21:00,030 That people didn't recognize it for what it was and thrown it away. 300 00:21:11,870 --> 00:21:13,330 It was after midnight. 301 00:21:14,580 --> 00:21:16,540 I got a call from the 911 dispatcher, 302 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:20,380 and she said they had had a phone call from a gentleman, 303 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:23,130 and that he was an employee of Home Depot. 304 00:21:25,340 --> 00:21:28,760 He recalled finding something suspicious in the bed of his pickup truck, 305 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:30,510 which was parked in the parking lot. 306 00:21:31,010 --> 00:21:33,730 I called him and I asked him what he thought was suspicious, 307 00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:35,690 and he said, "It was a cereal box." 308 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:39,610 I said, "Well, where is that now?" 309 00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:42,690 And he said, "I have it on my kitchen table." 310 00:21:47,660 --> 00:21:50,240 Inside, there was another note. 311 00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:53,410 Okay. All right. 312 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,160 You ready? 313 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:57,500 We're ready. 314 00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:59,540 "Can I communicate with floppy 315 00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:02,420 and not be traced to a computer? 316 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:04,760 Be honest. 317 00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:10,220 I will try a floppy for a test run sometime in the near future. 318 00:22:10,300 --> 00:22:11,850 February or March." 319 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:16,690 This was a bad strategy on his part. 320 00:22:17,390 --> 00:22:20,190 Some things are deposited upon floppies or thumb drives 321 00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:21,730 when you put them in a computer. 322 00:22:21,820 --> 00:22:23,360 Most people don't realize that, 323 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,360 and we were way willing to bet that he didn't realize it. 324 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:31,870 He wanted us to respond by taking out a personal ad in the newspaper, 325 00:22:32,660 --> 00:22:35,450 and he wanted us to refer to him as Rex. 326 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:40,330 The decision was made that we weren't gonna be honest with him. 327 00:22:42,540 --> 00:22:45,380 And so, we put an ad in the paper that said, 328 00:22:45,460 --> 00:22:47,170 "Rex, it'll be okay." 329 00:22:51,140 --> 00:22:53,220 You just felt the pendulum moving. 330 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,220 We were gaining ground on him. 331 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:05,610 The employee that found the package was able to pinpoint the date 332 00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:07,780 when the package ended up in his vehicle. 333 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,490 Home Depot had an extensive video surveillance system. 334 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Maybe we'd capture video of BTK coming in and leaving. 335 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:20,120 The video was pretty grainy, 336 00:23:20,210 --> 00:23:22,670 so fuzzy, you're... You're not gonna make any ID. 337 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,460 But as it pulled away, 338 00:23:25,550 --> 00:23:28,920 we were able to get some good shots of the side of the vehicle. 339 00:23:32,430 --> 00:23:33,430 We watched it 340 00:23:34,510 --> 00:23:35,560 repeatedly. 341 00:23:37,220 --> 00:23:38,850 Sizing it up against other cars. 342 00:23:40,140 --> 00:23:42,350 Ground clearance, the wheelbase, 343 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:44,480 the rake of the windshield. 344 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,400 We sent a bunch of those pictures to video forensics. 345 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:55,530 And pretty quickly, they came back with a confirmation. 346 00:23:58,660 --> 00:24:00,620 The vehicle's a Jeep Cherokee. 347 00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:03,460 That's investigative gold. 348 00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:07,550 You know, we knew he had a Cherokee. He was caught on video. 349 00:24:07,630 --> 00:24:09,760 Now he wants to send us a floppy? 350 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,720 That's more mistakes in the last couple of weeks 351 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,590 than he's made in 31 years. 352 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,720 And you can only make mistakes so long and not be caught. 353 00:24:23,140 --> 00:24:25,230 Two weeks after putting the ad in the paper, 354 00:24:25,310 --> 00:24:28,610 Fox TV station, here in Wichita, got a package in the mail. 355 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:31,650 I was really excited to go get it. 356 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:33,780 I would probably 357 00:24:34,860 --> 00:24:38,080 own up to driving a little bit above the posted speed limit, yes. 358 00:24:41,710 --> 00:24:43,040 We gloved up. 359 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:46,250 Pulled out this little postcard. 360 00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:49,460 And then… 361 00:24:52,220 --> 00:24:53,470 …there was a floppy disk. 362 00:25:01,020 --> 00:25:02,850 We were all gathered around. 363 00:25:07,270 --> 00:25:08,270 It was dead quiet. 364 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:14,530 There was one document on there called "Test," a Word file. 365 00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:17,490 The software is licensed 366 00:25:17,570 --> 00:25:19,870 to Christ Lutheran Church. 367 00:25:21,370 --> 00:25:25,920 And this document was printed by a user named Dennis. 368 00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:32,420 A computer forensics examiner gets on the Internet 369 00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:35,220 and searches for Christ Lutheran Church… 370 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,890 and the name Dennis… 371 00:25:41,010 --> 00:25:46,480 and comes up with the president of that congregation. 372 00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:56,030 Dennis Rader. 373 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:04,910 When we ran him through local state and national databases, 374 00:26:05,410 --> 00:26:07,710 there was no criminal history whatsoever. 375 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,540 Just looked like a normal guy. 376 00:26:12,250 --> 00:26:15,550 He was working for the city as a, uh, compliance officer. 377 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:19,090 He was married, uh, had a daughter and a son. 378 00:26:21,050 --> 00:26:22,310 We got his address, 379 00:26:22,970 --> 00:26:25,270 and then we were headed out the door. 380 00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:31,310 It was like a race to drive by there. 381 00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:34,980 But I didn't drive fast enough. 382 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:38,070 And Tim Relph beat us there 383 00:26:38,150 --> 00:26:40,070 because he drives that way. 384 00:26:43,410 --> 00:26:45,910 We knew the house'd be on the east side of the road. 385 00:26:47,250 --> 00:26:48,920 That driveway isn't visible 386 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 until you get almost in front of the house. 387 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,050 And… 388 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:57,010 we saw the Cherokee. 389 00:27:02,010 --> 00:27:03,970 It was excitement. It was crazy excitement. 390 00:27:04,060 --> 00:27:06,730 And I stomped on the accelerator, you know, spun the tires. 391 00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:10,350 I called the lieutenant, said, 392 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,110 "Grab everybody you can get your hands on and come down. 393 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:15,360 We're going through the door, he's there." 394 00:27:16,610 --> 00:27:17,610 And he said… 395 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,610 "Stop. 396 00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:22,530 You guys need to come back." 397 00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:31,710 I knew we didn't have enough evidence to arrest him, 398 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:34,460 but you can see 399 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:38,920 this is everything you've been working for not only in the last 11 months, 400 00:27:39,010 --> 00:27:42,090 but... but as... as a policeman, as a homicide detective, 401 00:27:42,180 --> 00:27:44,350 this... this is it. 402 00:27:44,430 --> 00:27:46,350 And he wants me to turn and leave, 403 00:27:46,430 --> 00:27:47,430 and I'm like… 404 00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:48,890 You know, that... 405 00:27:49,810 --> 00:27:52,190 That's a tough, tough phone call. 406 00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:57,150 You got to turn your car and you got to head back to Wichita. 407 00:28:06,910 --> 00:28:09,620 The research into Dennis Rader was in full overdrive. 408 00:28:10,620 --> 00:28:13,460 It was like, learn everything we can about this guy. 409 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,800 Is there someplace we can find his DNA? 410 00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:22,260 And that's when we discovered 411 00:28:22,340 --> 00:28:25,510 one of his children had attended Kansas State University. 412 00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:32,890 Most female students can have free checkups, 413 00:28:33,810 --> 00:28:37,480 so we wondered if maybe she had an exam that would have saved any of her DNA. 414 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:40,940 Because a familial DNA match 415 00:28:41,030 --> 00:28:43,280 would be enough for us to arrest Dennis Rader. 416 00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:48,330 We were able to seize that DNA. 417 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,580 And then we were just on hold 418 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:54,870 waiting for the results. 419 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,710 And then my cell phone rang. 420 00:29:07,180 --> 00:29:08,180 That was a, um… 421 00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:15,020 That's probably the happiest phone call I ever got in my life, truly. 422 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,860 Dennis Rader's BTK. 423 00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:23,860 It's him. 424 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,160 I drove to our task force office. 425 00:29:30,990 --> 00:29:32,160 Dana was already there. 426 00:29:33,450 --> 00:29:34,500 Tim's already there. 427 00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:38,080 We were ready to take this guy off the street, 428 00:29:38,590 --> 00:29:40,800 put him in prison for the rest of his life. 429 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,970 But then the next morning, 430 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:51,010 the chief wanted the SWAT team to arrest Dennis Rader. 431 00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:55,480 I said, "Chief, um, we want to arrest him. 432 00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:58,610 We're the ones that have been chasing him for 11 months. 433 00:29:58,690 --> 00:30:01,440 We can arrest him just as easy as a SWAT team." 434 00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:04,490 And he kind of gave me the look like, you know, 435 00:30:04,570 --> 00:30:06,320 maybe I was a little bit out of line. 436 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Kelly Otis would have burned his house down 437 00:30:08,410 --> 00:30:10,280 if we didn't get a chance to arrest him. 438 00:30:11,330 --> 00:30:13,200 And the chief said, "Okay." 439 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,630 He worked in this office up here, just south of 61st. 440 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,260 But we knew that we had to keep this a very low-key takedown. 441 00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:31,180 So, our plan was to line up on a side street, 442 00:30:31,260 --> 00:30:34,890 and as soon as we knew he was coming home, we would set up the arrest. 443 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560 The helicopter above, 444 00:30:40,650 --> 00:30:43,110 it's telling us, uh, where he's located, 445 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:44,610 so we know he's on his way. 446 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,030 He's been stopped on that curb line. 447 00:30:52,530 --> 00:30:54,990 I'm in between these two cars with a 12-gauge shotgun, 448 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,660 just in case he came out armed. 449 00:30:58,540 --> 00:31:01,630 The detectives grabbed him, pulled him out of the truck, 450 00:31:01,710 --> 00:31:03,880 and put him face down in the middle of the street. 451 00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:08,130 I Immediately pulled my handcuffs out and cuffed him. 452 00:31:10,890 --> 00:31:12,930 I was glad to be the person to do that. 453 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680 He's a big guy. 454 00:31:16,220 --> 00:31:17,640 Um, stocky, tall. 455 00:31:17,730 --> 00:31:19,640 He's wearing his uniform from his work day. 456 00:31:20,270 --> 00:31:23,150 As we were getting ready to move him, he looked at us and said… 457 00:31:24,610 --> 00:31:27,780 "Would somebody please go tell my wife I won't be home for lunch? 458 00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:29,490 I assume you know where I live." 459 00:31:34,370 --> 00:31:36,580 We wanted to get Dennis Rader out of here. 460 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:42,210 Now, we have to put 30 years of violent crimes together 461 00:31:42,290 --> 00:31:44,040 to present to a judge and a jury. 462 00:31:44,130 --> 00:31:45,710 So, the work was not done. 463 00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:51,970 Dennis Rader was brought in to our headquarters. 464 00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:58,100 He was escorted to the fifth floor, where we had a room already prepared. 465 00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:07,070 There was an FBI agent and a lieutenant in the Homicide section. 466 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:09,820 Impressive people, impressive credentials 467 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,410 appealing to his narcissistic side. 468 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,660 The rest of us were watching over closed-circuit TV. 469 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:22,250 Is he gonna talk? Is he gonna deny? 470 00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:25,170 Lots of anticipation. 471 00:32:30,050 --> 00:32:32,260 As a suspect, I assume you have something on me, 472 00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:34,260 otherwise you wouldn't have brought me in. 473 00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:36,510 He seemed cocky. 474 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,970 He wasn't worried about what was gonna happen. 475 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,520 And then the lieutenant tells him, 476 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,560 "This is how we caught you." 477 00:32:47,270 --> 00:32:50,030 Things have occurred medically with your children, 478 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:51,610 and those samples are saved. 479 00:32:54,030 --> 00:32:55,360 That's what brings me to you. 480 00:32:55,450 --> 00:32:58,240 That's why I know your... your DNA is gonna match BTK's. 481 00:32:59,910 --> 00:33:01,450 So, why don't you just say it? 482 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,330 Say... say who you are. 483 00:33:12,670 --> 00:33:13,670 BTK. 484 00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:20,310 Then he talked… for hours. 485 00:33:26,270 --> 00:33:27,270 Hours. 486 00:33:28,860 --> 00:33:30,150 Gloating on what he did. 487 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:37,530 This is his greatest accomplishment, and he's never been able to talk about it. 488 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,780 And make no mistake about it, he's proud of it. 489 00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:42,250 Then I whispered in her ear a little bit. 490 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:46,000 You know, I told her BTK was a bad guy. 491 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,130 That's when you get upset, when you get angry. 492 00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:53,760 He had no remorse. 493 00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:57,010 None. 494 00:33:59,550 --> 00:34:00,930 I was really sick of him. 495 00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:24,160 The next morning, I... I went to church, you know, and just… 496 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,080 Just praised God. 497 00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:33,500 Okay. 498 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,520 This is such a bad idea. Us three on microphones right now. 499 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,520 Exactly. 500 00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:53,940 - That is Dennis' most worst punishment. - Yeah. 501 00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:56,940 Not that he's locked up, but that nobody gives a shit about him. 502 00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:58,030 Yeah. 503 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,200 This man that had infected my childhood, 504 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,410 you know, he was done. 505 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:07,210 Few people get the chance to vanquish their tormentors like that. 506 00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:10,120 Very few people get to slay their childhood dragons. 40343

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