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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:30,614 If you have ever owned a slave, please raise your hand. 2 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:36,870 And there's not one hand going up anywhere in this theatre. 3 00:00:37,371 --> 00:00:40,123 Slavery is not our fault. 4 00:00:40,207 --> 00:00:41,834 We didn't do it. 5 00:00:41,917 --> 00:00:43,544 We didn't cause it. 6 00:00:43,627 --> 00:00:46,463 It's not our responsibility. 7 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:49,132 But it is our shared history. 8 00:00:54,304 --> 00:00:57,724 And when we try and turn it into something that it's not... 9 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:01,520 when we try and make more light of it than it was, 10 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:04,313 then we are denying who we really are, 11 00:01:04,397 --> 00:01:08,193 and we are impeding our ability to truly move forward 12 00:01:08,277 --> 00:01:10,654 as a community or as a nation. 13 00:01:18,537 --> 00:01:21,456 We're at the Lorraine Motel. 14 00:01:22,291 --> 00:01:25,711 And right outside Room 306, there's a wreath, 15 00:01:25,794 --> 00:01:28,714 which is approximately where Dr King was standing 16 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:30,424 when he was shot down. 17 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:35,012 And if you look across the street, there's a building over there 18 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:37,014 from where the shots were fired. 19 00:01:37,723 --> 00:01:40,517 It was a shot that almost couldn't miss. 20 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:46,273 Exactly one week before Dr King was shot, 21 00:01:46,356 --> 00:01:49,860 there was a demonstration here in Downtown Memphis 22 00:01:49,943 --> 00:01:52,446 to support the striking sanitation workers, 23 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:56,074 and my dad took my older brother and I to that demonstration. 24 00:01:58,202 --> 00:02:02,623 It broke into violence and my dad told us to run. 25 00:02:04,458 --> 00:02:06,919 It's difficult to think about now, 26 00:02:07,002 --> 00:02:11,757 because there was a young Black teenager named Larry Payne. 27 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,592 He lost his life that day. 28 00:02:13,675 --> 00:02:17,471 He encountered a police officer and was killed, and... 29 00:02:18,555 --> 00:02:22,059 It's just one of those events in my childhood 30 00:02:22,142 --> 00:02:25,354 that made me realise how lucky I was. 31 00:02:25,437 --> 00:02:29,358 How lucky I was not to end up like Larry Payne. 32 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,780 And how lucky I was to have come out of Memphis... 33 00:02:35,614 --> 00:02:36,949 in the way that I did. 34 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:56,760 We've gotta give ourselves to this struggle until the end. 35 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:59,096 Nothing would be more tragic... 36 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:01,598 than to stop... 37 00:03:03,851 --> 00:03:06,812 at this point in Memphis. 38 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:09,857 We've gotta see it through. 39 00:03:18,699 --> 00:03:22,202 Tonight, Jeff Robinson will tell us stories that we've not heard. 40 00:03:22,286 --> 00:03:24,246 Stories that we think we know, 41 00:03:24,329 --> 00:03:27,040 but have not wrestled with their meaning yet. 42 00:03:27,124 --> 00:03:28,792 The story of us. 43 00:03:29,626 --> 00:03:33,005 Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jeff Robinson, y'all. 44 00:03:43,724 --> 00:03:44,641 Hey, y'all. 45 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:50,564 I was 11 years old in 1968. 46 00:03:50,647 --> 00:03:53,025 And to my young eyes, 47 00:03:53,108 --> 00:03:57,779 we had been on a path toward racial justice that was amazing. 48 00:03:57,863 --> 00:04:01,158 There was the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. 49 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:04,536 We were winning on buses and at lunch counters. 50 00:04:06,496 --> 00:04:10,459 We were seemingly, to me, at a tipping point 51 00:04:10,542 --> 00:04:13,378 where we were either gonna roll forward 52 00:04:13,462 --> 00:04:16,005 with this incredible momentum on racial justice 53 00:04:16,089 --> 00:04:18,216 or we could roll back. 54 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:20,552 And then April 4th happened. 55 00:04:21,970 --> 00:04:23,847 And King got shot in the neck. 56 00:04:25,224 --> 00:04:29,311 And it felt like the whole thing just rolled back. 57 00:04:31,772 --> 00:04:35,400 Because then came Richard Nixon and the War on Drugs. 58 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,362 We're 50 years later now. 59 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:40,280 And once again, 60 00:04:40,364 --> 00:04:45,869 young activists in America are making Americans take a look in the mirror, 61 00:04:45,953 --> 00:04:50,082 in terms of our true history of race and racial prejudice. 62 00:04:50,165 --> 00:04:54,503 Once again, the young activists are calling us to account. 63 00:04:54,586 --> 00:04:59,299 Once again, America is having to look at issues of race dead in the eye, 64 00:04:59,383 --> 00:05:02,886 and once again, we are at a tipping point. 65 00:05:03,470 --> 00:05:06,723 And the question for all of us in this room is: 66 00:05:06,807 --> 00:05:08,725 "What are we gonna do about it?" 67 00:05:10,352 --> 00:05:13,647 We are our own worst enemies 68 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:17,985 when it comes to making true racial progress in America. 69 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:22,531 And unless we are willing to take a long and hard look in the mirror, 70 00:05:22,614 --> 00:05:27,035 this concept of taking two steps forward and three steps backward 71 00:05:27,119 --> 00:05:31,582 is where we are going to continue moving in this country. 72 00:05:40,215 --> 00:05:43,927 In 2011, my wife and I became parents. 73 00:05:44,803 --> 00:05:48,056 My sister-in-law who lived here in Queens passed away, 74 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:51,685 and we became the parents of her then-13-year-old son. 75 00:05:53,395 --> 00:05:56,940 And if you ask Matthew Liam Brooks, "What are you?" 76 00:05:57,024 --> 00:06:01,528 He will tell you, "I'm Puerto Rican, Taíno Indian and African American." 77 00:06:01,612 --> 00:06:03,280 And he's very proud of that. 78 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:05,782 And when I look at him, I say, "I understand, dude. 79 00:06:05,866 --> 00:06:07,659 But you're a young Black male. 80 00:06:07,743 --> 00:06:10,537 'Cause that's what America is gonna see." 81 00:06:10,621 --> 00:06:11,747 And all of a sudden, 82 00:06:11,830 --> 00:06:15,334 the surface skimming that I felt like I had been doing 83 00:06:15,417 --> 00:06:20,172 on the history of race and what racism meant in America, 84 00:06:20,255 --> 00:06:23,258 it wasn't enough, and so I started reading more. 85 00:06:23,342 --> 00:06:29,890 And I found myself getting angry and feeling ignorant. 86 00:06:30,474 --> 00:06:34,603 I went to Marquette University and I graduated from Harvard Law School. 87 00:06:34,686 --> 00:06:37,648 I've had one of the best educations in America, 88 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:42,611 and I started learning stuff about the history of race in this country 89 00:06:42,694 --> 00:06:45,489 that I had never heard before. 90 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:48,158 And I thought, "How could I not have known this? 91 00:06:48,242 --> 00:06:51,328 How could I not have been taught this?" 92 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:53,789 And I started thinking, "If I don't know this, 93 00:06:53,872 --> 00:06:57,543 I wonder how many other people don't know." 94 00:07:11,515 --> 00:07:13,267 Slavery had nothing to do with the war. 95 00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:17,563 That was not the cause of the Southern states seceding. 96 00:07:17,646 --> 00:07:21,483 That was not the cause of the first shot being fired on that fort over there. 97 00:07:21,567 --> 00:07:22,693 It was about money. 98 00:07:23,652 --> 00:07:25,445 And it was not about slavery. 99 00:07:25,529 --> 00:07:28,490 It was about Morrill Tariffs. It was about more money. 100 00:07:28,574 --> 00:07:33,370 Lincoln wanted to impose 45% more taxes on the Southern states. 101 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,665 Taxes on the goods the Southern states were producing. 102 00:07:36,748 --> 00:07:41,003 And those goods were, essentially, cotton, tobacco, and rice. 103 00:07:41,086 --> 00:07:42,004 Predominantly. 104 00:07:42,087 --> 00:07:43,547 And those goods... 105 00:07:44,423 --> 00:07:47,134 were produced by slave labour. 106 00:07:48,218 --> 00:07:49,052 All of it. 107 00:07:49,678 --> 00:07:50,762 Isn't that right? 108 00:07:50,846 --> 00:07:52,389 I mean... 109 00:07:52,472 --> 00:07:54,683 Ninety-five percent of it? 110 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:57,352 Isn't that right? 111 00:07:57,853 --> 00:08:03,317 If it's 95% produced by slave labour, enslaved people... 112 00:08:04,526 --> 00:08:07,613 and the North is saying, "We're gonna tax you on that 113 00:08:07,696 --> 00:08:09,531 because we want some of that money," 114 00:08:09,615 --> 00:08:11,033 and the South is saying, 115 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:12,826 "Wait a minute. We're the ones producing, 116 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:14,870 so you shouldn't be taking the money," 117 00:08:14,953 --> 00:08:17,623 that money wouldn't exist without slave labour. 118 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:21,752 That did affect the bottom line, wouldn't you agree with that? 119 00:08:21,835 --> 00:08:23,545 They chose to stay. 120 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:25,589 In most cases, in the South, 121 00:08:25,672 --> 00:08:29,343 that's the way it worked, because they were treated as family. 122 00:08:30,093 --> 00:08:31,553 And they knew what they had. 123 00:08:31,637 --> 00:08:34,722 They didn't know what they were being faced with if they left. 124 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:39,311 So your view is that enslaved people were treated as family? 125 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:41,938 Then why wouldn't it be all right for me to own you, 126 00:08:42,022 --> 00:08:44,399 as long as I treated you like family? 127 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:47,819 If that's the way economics work. 128 00:08:49,446 --> 00:08:51,156 Would you be satisfied with that? 129 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,617 -In today's world? -In any world. 130 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:56,453 -In today's time? -At any time. 131 00:08:56,537 --> 00:08:57,371 No. 132 00:09:00,249 --> 00:09:01,875 So was slavery evil? 133 00:09:01,959 --> 00:09:03,085 Yes. 134 00:09:04,002 --> 00:09:05,295 I'm not denying it. 135 00:09:05,379 --> 00:09:09,258 And this flag has nothing to do with that? 136 00:09:09,341 --> 00:09:10,175 No. 137 00:09:12,678 --> 00:09:14,638 This was a soldier's battle flag. 138 00:09:17,391 --> 00:09:18,767 I think I need to-- 139 00:09:18,851 --> 00:09:23,146 I'm a little sick today, and so I'm just standing in the heat. 140 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,107 Thank you for talking to me. I will say that. 141 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:27,150 I appreciate that. 142 00:09:27,234 --> 00:09:29,319 -Thank you very much for talking to me. -Yes, sir. 143 00:09:38,453 --> 00:09:40,330 I needed to walk away. 144 00:09:42,207 --> 00:09:48,088 I am definitely interested in engaging with people that don't agree. 145 00:09:48,172 --> 00:09:51,884 But it seemed like facts... 146 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:56,013 were not that important to this gentleman. 147 00:09:56,096 --> 00:10:01,226 He knew that what he was saying made no sense whatsoever, 148 00:10:01,310 --> 00:10:03,645 but he believes it so deeply... 149 00:10:04,730 --> 00:10:06,899 that he's unwilling to let go of it. 150 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:14,114 So I don't know if he can be reached. 151 00:10:15,574 --> 00:10:21,330 But I know that if no one tries, he definitely won't change. 152 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:36,261 People aren't just good or bad. 153 00:10:36,345 --> 00:10:38,472 People are many things. 154 00:10:38,555 --> 00:10:42,267 Every person in this theatre knows that's true, 155 00:10:42,351 --> 00:10:44,269 'cause every one of us has been 156 00:10:44,353 --> 00:10:47,898 a saint or a sinner at some times in our life. 157 00:10:47,981 --> 00:10:49,399 And you know what? 158 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:52,319 Countries aren't just one thing either. 159 00:10:52,402 --> 00:10:54,029 They're many things. 160 00:10:54,112 --> 00:11:00,035 America has demonstrated its greatness time and time and time again. 161 00:11:00,118 --> 00:11:02,955 And America is one of the most racist countries 162 00:11:03,038 --> 00:11:04,540 on the face of the Earth. 163 00:11:04,623 --> 00:11:07,960 Those two things are not mutually exclusive. 164 00:11:08,919 --> 00:11:11,088 It is not an either-or. 165 00:11:15,759 --> 00:11:18,554 And the reason I'm asking us to think about this 166 00:11:18,637 --> 00:11:22,182 is that, literally, the future is at stake. 167 00:11:26,812 --> 00:11:29,022 Can I see a show of hands? 168 00:11:29,106 --> 00:11:32,693 How many people can see a triangle in the form on the board? 169 00:11:32,776 --> 00:11:34,361 Just throw your hands up. 170 00:11:34,444 --> 00:11:35,779 How about a circle? 171 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:38,448 How about a star? 172 00:11:39,783 --> 00:11:41,243 The Star of David? 173 00:11:42,327 --> 00:11:44,997 You realise none of those shapes are on this screen? 174 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,498 Not one of them. 175 00:11:46,999 --> 00:11:48,250 Not one of them. 176 00:11:48,333 --> 00:11:52,296 But what your brain does is to fill in the gaps, 177 00:11:52,379 --> 00:11:54,173 so that the world makes sense. 178 00:11:54,256 --> 00:11:57,843 And we look at these shapes and we say, "I kind of recognise them." 179 00:11:57,926 --> 00:12:01,305 And so we fill in the gaps so the world makes sense. 180 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:04,641 And that doesn't have any problem when you're doing something like this. 181 00:12:04,725 --> 00:12:09,897 But the thing is that we can fill in the gaps on all sorts of things, 182 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:12,191 including our judgements about people. 183 00:12:12,274 --> 00:12:13,108 And sometimes, 184 00:12:13,192 --> 00:12:17,196 what we're filling in the gaps with comes from a really ugly place. 185 00:12:17,279 --> 00:12:21,491 This is the only time tonight I'm going to ask you to do this. 186 00:12:21,575 --> 00:12:23,744 I want you to work with me, 187 00:12:23,827 --> 00:12:27,456 and I'm gonna ask you to, loudly and quickly, 188 00:12:27,539 --> 00:12:30,709 say the colour, not the word. 189 00:12:30,792 --> 00:12:32,794 -Are we ready? -Yes. 190 00:12:32,878 --> 00:12:34,171 Ready? 191 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:35,214 Go. 192 00:12:35,297 --> 00:12:39,176 Red, yellow, blue, green, brown. 193 00:12:39,259 --> 00:12:41,762 Blue, brown, red, yellow, green. 194 00:12:41,845 --> 00:12:42,763 Faster. 195 00:12:42,846 --> 00:12:45,724 Red, yellow, blue, green, brown. 196 00:12:45,807 --> 00:12:48,143 Blue, brown, red, yellow, green. 197 00:12:53,857 --> 00:12:58,403 This thing is 80 years old. 198 00:12:59,404 --> 00:13:03,158 And what it does is to simply demonstrate 199 00:13:03,242 --> 00:13:05,118 that you are making connections 200 00:13:05,202 --> 00:13:09,248 between the word and the colour below your conscious level. 201 00:13:09,331 --> 00:13:11,542 You don't even know that you're doing it. 202 00:13:11,625 --> 00:13:14,294 And when that connection is broken, 203 00:13:14,378 --> 00:13:18,173 it actually takes just a little bit more time 204 00:13:18,257 --> 00:13:20,425 to get to the right answer. 205 00:13:20,509 --> 00:13:26,765 That is the heart of the science about unconscious bias. 206 00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:31,270 Whether it's unconscious bias or deliberate bias... 207 00:13:32,145 --> 00:13:36,525 the person experiencing it experiences exactly the same thing. 208 00:13:36,608 --> 00:13:40,112 If you don't get the job because a racist doesn't hire you, 209 00:13:40,195 --> 00:13:42,739 or because somebody has unconscious bias, 210 00:13:42,823 --> 00:13:44,449 you still don't have a job. 211 00:13:44,533 --> 00:13:49,580 If you get arrested because somebody had bias to call the police 212 00:13:49,663 --> 00:13:53,917 because someone Black is existing in space and they're nervous, 213 00:13:54,001 --> 00:13:56,378 whether it's unconscious or deliberate, 214 00:13:56,461 --> 00:13:59,590 you still have to deal with a law enforcement officer. 215 00:13:59,673 --> 00:14:02,009 The difference is meaningless 216 00:14:02,092 --> 00:14:06,805 when it is talking about the experience of the person who is victimised by it. 217 00:14:08,223 --> 00:14:12,060 I'm moving from D.C., I'm sweating right now. I'm in my apartment. 218 00:14:12,144 --> 00:14:13,562 But, you know... 219 00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:16,523 somebody called the cops on me in my own building. 220 00:14:16,607 --> 00:14:18,025 About-- How many of y'all? 221 00:14:19,443 --> 00:14:21,153 About six of y'all showed up. 222 00:14:22,154 --> 00:14:25,782 New at 5:00, a rude welcome to the neighbourhood 223 00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,577 for a man on the Upper West Side. 224 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:30,787 He was moving into his apartment building 225 00:14:30,871 --> 00:14:35,334 when a half-dozen NYPD officers suddenly showed up. 226 00:14:35,417 --> 00:14:39,296 Darren Martin streamed the encounter live on Instagram. 227 00:14:39,379 --> 00:14:42,049 He says one of his neighbours called the police 228 00:14:42,132 --> 00:14:44,593 thinking that he was actually breaking into the apartment. 229 00:14:44,676 --> 00:14:46,637 Even claiming that he had a weapon. 230 00:14:48,931 --> 00:14:52,518 -So this is 106th Street in Manhattan? -Yep. 231 00:14:52,601 --> 00:14:54,603 And on the night in question, 232 00:14:55,103 --> 00:14:57,814 looking at where this car is parked right here, 233 00:14:57,898 --> 00:14:59,316 is this where your U-Haul was? 234 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:03,278 Our U-Haul was parked right outside. Right over here where this car is. 235 00:15:03,362 --> 00:15:05,113 Right in front of the building. 236 00:15:05,197 --> 00:15:07,950 -And then, it looks like 56 is-- -Right over here, yeah. 237 00:15:08,033 --> 00:15:10,452 So this is the apartment that I was moving into. 238 00:15:10,536 --> 00:15:11,703 Yeah, this is it. 239 00:15:13,121 --> 00:15:16,834 And it's outside. It's a regular building. Looks like any other walk-up here. 240 00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,461 I don't know what those cops' intentions were when they came. 241 00:15:19,545 --> 00:15:21,421 They were looking for someone with a weapon. 242 00:15:22,673 --> 00:15:24,091 I could've been killed. 243 00:15:25,551 --> 00:15:28,136 -Can I go see my guy? Can I go upstairs? -Not right now. 244 00:15:28,220 --> 00:15:30,889 -Why not? Why can't I go anywhere? -We have to check it out. 245 00:15:30,973 --> 00:15:32,349 What's the problem? I live here. 246 00:15:32,432 --> 00:15:35,227 -We gotta do our investigation. -What are you investigating? 247 00:15:35,310 --> 00:15:36,603 Listen, they called, right? 248 00:15:36,687 --> 00:15:38,772 -We're doing our job. That's it. -Who called you? 249 00:15:38,856 --> 00:15:40,190 If you're doing nothing wrong-- 250 00:15:40,274 --> 00:15:42,359 -Who called you? -Someone called us. 251 00:15:43,068 --> 00:15:45,612 Well, I'm glad that this is nothing more 252 00:15:45,696 --> 00:15:48,824 than a cramped space in a hallway 253 00:15:48,907 --> 00:15:52,578 in an apartment building on 106th Street in New York, 254 00:15:52,661 --> 00:15:54,746 and not another landmark 255 00:15:54,830 --> 00:15:59,209 where another person from our community is killed by the police 256 00:15:59,293 --> 00:16:00,711 and we're asking why. 257 00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:07,676 The biases and prejudices 258 00:16:07,759 --> 00:16:11,889 about race in America are so deep in our DNA 259 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:16,185 that sometimes we don't even recognise that they're there. 260 00:16:17,144 --> 00:16:20,647 Take the Implicit Association Test, if you haven't taken it. 261 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,066 It's up on the Harvard website, 262 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:27,905 and it tests your implicit or unconscious association on all kinds of things. 263 00:16:27,988 --> 00:16:30,782 On race, on gender, all kinds of things. 264 00:16:30,866 --> 00:16:33,660 And I was interested, as I was looking at all of this information, 265 00:16:33,744 --> 00:16:37,581 so I went and took it, and it made a mistake. 266 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,291 So I had to take it again. 267 00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:45,088 Because, see, it gave these results and it's like, "That ain't me." 268 00:16:45,172 --> 00:16:46,882 So I took it again. 269 00:16:46,965 --> 00:16:49,301 And it had the same results. 270 00:16:49,384 --> 00:16:52,429 A negative impression of Black males. 271 00:16:53,263 --> 00:16:56,558 A negative impression of myself. 272 00:16:57,726 --> 00:17:00,646 And I thought, "Where did that come from?" 273 00:17:00,729 --> 00:17:07,736 I've had some good days 274 00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:09,363 I've had... 275 00:17:09,445 --> 00:17:10,948 All right, Betty Jo, where you at? 276 00:17:11,031 --> 00:17:15,285 Some hills to climb 277 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:20,374 I've had some weary days 278 00:17:20,457 --> 00:17:23,417 And some sleepless nights... 279 00:17:23,502 --> 00:17:25,420 Well, he's got his hands up there for her now. 280 00:17:28,382 --> 00:17:30,092 This guy's still walking. 281 00:17:31,218 --> 00:17:32,886 He isn't following commands. 282 00:17:33,846 --> 00:17:35,639 Time for a Taser, I think. 283 00:17:37,474 --> 00:17:40,602 That looks like a bad dude too. May be on something. 284 00:17:41,436 --> 00:17:43,230 He may have just been Tasered. 285 00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:45,357 Shots fired! 286 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:50,279 Twenty-one, we have shots fired. We have one suspect down. 287 00:17:53,740 --> 00:17:57,995 Sometimes clouds hang low 288 00:17:59,246 --> 00:18:05,419 I can hardly see the road 289 00:18:10,465 --> 00:18:14,428 Has your brother been misportrayed, in terms of who he was? 290 00:18:14,511 --> 00:18:16,513 Yes, he has. The narrative... 291 00:18:17,973 --> 00:18:21,518 started out as Terence being a suspect. 292 00:18:21,602 --> 00:18:24,062 Well, he was a student, not a suspect. 293 00:18:24,563 --> 00:18:27,232 Just left school 15 minutes earlier. 294 00:18:27,316 --> 00:18:29,943 Fifteen minutes later, he was dead. 295 00:18:31,612 --> 00:18:33,739 In the media, he was a thug. 296 00:18:33,822 --> 00:18:36,200 He was a criminal. He was a drug addict. 297 00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:39,244 -He was a bad dude. -Yes. 298 00:18:39,328 --> 00:18:41,997 Nobody ever humanised my brother. 299 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,418 And I had to let America know who that bad dude was. 300 00:18:46,502 --> 00:18:47,711 That was my twin. 301 00:18:49,129 --> 00:18:50,297 He was a father. 302 00:18:52,090 --> 00:18:53,091 He was a son. 303 00:18:53,175 --> 00:18:56,386 He was a brother, an uncle, a cousin. 304 00:18:57,095 --> 00:18:58,514 He was a friend. 305 00:18:59,848 --> 00:19:01,892 He had a family who loved him. 306 00:19:03,435 --> 00:19:06,104 And my brother did not deserve to die, 307 00:19:06,605 --> 00:19:09,191 unarmed, with his hands in the air. 308 00:19:09,274 --> 00:19:14,738 Nobody deserves to die and take their last breath alone. 309 00:19:15,572 --> 00:19:17,533 He took his last breath alone. 310 00:19:18,742 --> 00:19:21,245 He laid in the street like an animal. 311 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:33,924 George Orwell did not write about a year. 312 00:19:34,007 --> 00:19:36,802 He wrote about a mindset of oppression. 313 00:19:36,885 --> 00:19:41,098 And there are two things that he said that I would strive for each of us 314 00:19:41,181 --> 00:19:43,642 to please remember as we go forward. 315 00:19:43,725 --> 00:19:47,396 The first, "Who controls the past, controls the future. 316 00:19:47,479 --> 00:19:50,607 And who controls the present, controls the past." 317 00:19:50,691 --> 00:19:52,985 A government that is in power 318 00:19:53,068 --> 00:19:58,156 has the ability to shape the views of the population it governs 319 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,955 by putting out a narrative that sometimes has nothing to do with the truth. 320 00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:09,710 People don't realise, the Civil War-- 321 00:20:12,212 --> 00:20:15,507 -Yeah. -If you think about it, why? 322 00:20:15,591 --> 00:20:17,217 People don't ask that question. 323 00:20:17,301 --> 00:20:19,052 "But why was there the Civil War?" 324 00:20:19,136 --> 00:20:21,763 Why could that one not have been worked out? 325 00:20:21,847 --> 00:20:23,974 I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later, 326 00:20:24,057 --> 00:20:25,684 you wouldn't have had the Civil War. 327 00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:26,768 He was-- 328 00:20:27,603 --> 00:20:30,355 He was a very tough person, 329 00:20:30,439 --> 00:20:33,108 but he had a big heart and he was-- 330 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:36,445 He was really angry... 331 00:20:37,196 --> 00:20:40,199 that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. 332 00:20:40,282 --> 00:20:42,534 He said, "There's no reason for this." 333 00:20:44,369 --> 00:20:47,164 There are several things that are problematic there. 334 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:55,297 The first is that Andrew Jackson died almost 16 years before the Civil War. 335 00:20:55,380 --> 00:20:59,885 The second is that if he had said, "There's no reason for this," 336 00:20:59,968 --> 00:21:02,638 it wouldn't have been because he was saying, 337 00:21:02,721 --> 00:21:05,224 "There's no reason to have slavery," 338 00:21:05,307 --> 00:21:10,062 because Andrew Jackson had no problem with enslaving people. 339 00:21:10,145 --> 00:21:12,231 He was a slaver. 340 00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:18,779 And Andrew Jackson will tell you what he thinks about slavery himself. 341 00:21:18,862 --> 00:21:22,449 Andrew Jackson posted this ad offering a reward 342 00:21:22,533 --> 00:21:26,954 for the capture of an enslaved person who had escaped from him. 343 00:21:27,704 --> 00:21:33,377 And the ad describes the enslaved man, what he was wearing, where he might run, 344 00:21:33,460 --> 00:21:37,422 promises to pay all expenses involved in capturing him 345 00:21:37,506 --> 00:21:40,592 in addition to the $50 reward, 346 00:21:40,676 --> 00:21:47,140 and $10 extra for every hundred lashes any person will give him, 347 00:21:47,224 --> 00:21:49,810 to the amount of 300. 348 00:21:51,186 --> 00:21:55,148 That's who Andrew Jackson was. 349 00:21:55,232 --> 00:22:01,029 And that is who is on the face of our $20 bills. 350 00:22:02,573 --> 00:22:05,033 Countries aren't just one thing. 351 00:22:08,412 --> 00:22:11,790 They would sell enslaved people out of this location 352 00:22:11,874 --> 00:22:13,542 six days a week. 353 00:22:13,625 --> 00:22:18,297 Everyone from newborns to 70-year-olds were sold out of here. 354 00:22:19,965 --> 00:22:23,594 For enslaved people to make the most money 355 00:22:23,677 --> 00:22:26,805 for the traders and for the sellers, 356 00:22:26,889 --> 00:22:28,974 they have to be prepped first. 357 00:22:29,057 --> 00:22:34,855 Prep could be everything from high-fat and high-protein diets 358 00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:37,274 to get them into better physical shape, 359 00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:39,818 as well as, you know, fresh clothing. 360 00:22:39,902 --> 00:22:43,363 You have this sort of prepping of the skin through oiling. 361 00:22:43,447 --> 00:22:45,282 If they're looking a little bit older, 362 00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:47,784 they could either dye the hair 363 00:22:47,868 --> 00:22:50,287 or pluck any greys that someone would have, 364 00:22:50,370 --> 00:22:54,333 things of that nature, in order to, when they come up onto the block, 365 00:22:54,416 --> 00:22:57,836 they're able to garner the largest amount of money. 366 00:22:59,505 --> 00:23:02,799 And I'm looking at, here, a "List of Negroes." 367 00:23:02,883 --> 00:23:08,263 And it says, number one, the name is Sunday, the age is 45. 368 00:23:08,347 --> 00:23:11,308 Enslaved people, they didn't have last names, 369 00:23:11,391 --> 00:23:14,561 generally, until the 1870 Census. 370 00:23:15,854 --> 00:23:19,066 And so it was the question of, "What is your name?" 371 00:23:20,526 --> 00:23:23,278 Because the names could be changed each time you were sold? 372 00:23:23,362 --> 00:23:24,696 They would be changed. 373 00:23:24,780 --> 00:23:27,533 That's the first thing that is changed every time you're sold. 374 00:23:27,616 --> 00:23:29,993 So on all broadsides you will ever see, 375 00:23:30,077 --> 00:23:32,120 this is just the name they come to the sale with. 376 00:23:32,204 --> 00:23:35,999 And keep in mind that the enslaved property of slave owners 377 00:23:36,083 --> 00:23:38,544 was worth more than everything else they owned. 378 00:23:38,627 --> 00:23:40,629 It was worth more than the plantation. 379 00:23:40,712 --> 00:23:42,089 It was worth more than the land. 380 00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:44,550 More than the goods that are produced on that plantation. 381 00:23:44,633 --> 00:23:45,509 More than the house. 382 00:23:45,592 --> 00:23:48,136 More than any other liveries that they have. 383 00:23:48,220 --> 00:23:53,934 So the first thing that's going to be sold to pay for a debt is your enslaved. 384 00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:55,894 Because you didn't have to buy them outright. 385 00:23:56,562 --> 00:23:57,896 You could mortgage them. 386 00:24:00,524 --> 00:24:03,861 When it came to movement of enslaved, 387 00:24:03,944 --> 00:24:08,156 prior to being brought onto that block, they're going to be chained. 388 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,409 Now, everyone's going to be chained. 389 00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,411 It's not just going to be grown-ups. 390 00:24:12,494 --> 00:24:15,455 It's not going to be the elderly. It'll also be the children. 391 00:24:15,956 --> 00:24:19,376 And so I think what I'm looking at are shackles 392 00:24:19,459 --> 00:24:22,796 that were designed for an adult male, 393 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,760 and shackles that were designed for a child of maybe 3 or 4. 394 00:24:28,844 --> 00:24:30,137 Yes. Yes. 395 00:24:37,394 --> 00:24:38,520 Ista... 396 00:24:39,479 --> 00:24:40,772 what are... 397 00:24:43,150 --> 00:24:48,739 the three holes that I see in these bricks in the walls there? 398 00:24:48,822 --> 00:24:50,115 They're fingerprints. 399 00:24:51,408 --> 00:24:55,329 Enslaved people would begin to learn a skill at the age of about 6. 400 00:24:55,412 --> 00:24:58,832 And so fingerprints and handprints and thumbprints 401 00:24:58,916 --> 00:25:01,293 exist all throughout the city, 402 00:25:01,376 --> 00:25:03,837 because enslaved people built the city. 403 00:25:04,588 --> 00:25:08,717 And so on churches, on businesses, on-- 404 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,677 In alleyways, you see these. 405 00:25:10,761 --> 00:25:13,847 In theatres, you see these all throughout the city 406 00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:15,474 in very, very subtle ways. 407 00:25:15,557 --> 00:25:18,393 And if you don't know what you're looking for, you may not see them. 408 00:25:18,894 --> 00:25:19,978 But they're there. 409 00:25:20,062 --> 00:25:25,901 Absolutely, and they are a way of the enslaved who created this city 410 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:28,862 and created the economy that created this country 411 00:25:28,946 --> 00:25:31,865 to remind us, "Hey, I was here too." 412 00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:45,879 And so if I make the statement to you: 413 00:25:45,963 --> 00:25:50,259 "America was founded on white supremacy." 414 00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:54,263 You could say, "Jeff, that's an extreme statement." 415 00:25:54,346 --> 00:25:58,725 And what I would say to you is, "Don't believe a word I say about it. 416 00:25:58,809 --> 00:26:02,312 Just listen to what Americans said." 417 00:26:02,396 --> 00:26:06,275 Because they were willing to tell you exactly what they thought. 418 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:08,485 All you have to do is go look. 419 00:26:08,569 --> 00:26:12,990 We know that in 1619, 20-and-odd enslaved people 420 00:26:13,073 --> 00:26:16,326 were brought to America, landed in Jamestown. 421 00:26:17,452 --> 00:26:21,039 And by 1636, less than 20 years later, 422 00:26:21,123 --> 00:26:26,753 we launched the first American-made slave ship, the Desire. 423 00:26:26,837 --> 00:26:29,506 And it wasn't built in Alabama or Mississippi. 424 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:32,134 It was built in Massachusetts. 425 00:26:32,217 --> 00:26:35,637 And look at the name of the ship. The Desire. 426 00:26:35,721 --> 00:26:40,017 And the names of the three subsequent ships built in America 427 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,312 to go to Africa to get enslaved people. 428 00:26:43,395 --> 00:26:47,441 The Fortune, the Hope andthe Prosperity. 429 00:26:47,524 --> 00:26:51,570 They are telling you with language that is crystal clear 430 00:26:51,653 --> 00:26:55,282 what they think about the concept of white supremacy. 431 00:26:55,365 --> 00:26:58,285 In 1662, Virginia passed a law that said, 432 00:26:58,368 --> 00:27:01,371 "Children of enslaved mothers are also enslaved." 433 00:27:01,455 --> 00:27:02,539 Very simple law. 434 00:27:02,623 --> 00:27:03,874 Why did they need it? 435 00:27:03,957 --> 00:27:07,461 Because it was clear that white slave masters 436 00:27:07,544 --> 00:27:12,841 were raping Black women on a normal and regular basis, 437 00:27:12,925 --> 00:27:15,302 and these rapes were producing children. 438 00:27:15,385 --> 00:27:18,347 And the law just wanted to say, "We don't want there to be any mistake. 439 00:27:18,430 --> 00:27:21,225 If those babies come out with blue eyes or freckles, 440 00:27:21,308 --> 00:27:25,145 those aren't people, those are enslaved people." 441 00:27:25,896 --> 00:27:27,814 The law made sure to know that. 442 00:27:27,898 --> 00:27:31,985 Virginia then passed a law saying, "If slaves become Christians, 443 00:27:32,069 --> 00:27:33,820 that doesn't mean that they're freed." 444 00:27:33,904 --> 00:27:37,699 Because you become a Christian if you are enslaved 445 00:27:37,783 --> 00:27:42,204 only by the charity and piety of your owner. 446 00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:46,667 This is the language that Americans were using 447 00:27:46,750 --> 00:27:49,127 to describe the institution of slavery. 448 00:27:49,211 --> 00:27:52,631 They equated it with charity and piety. 449 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:55,509 1669, Virginia passed a law, 450 00:27:55,592 --> 00:28:00,931 "An enslaved person's death while resisting a master is not a felony." 451 00:28:01,014 --> 00:28:03,559 Would you look at those words, please? 452 00:28:03,642 --> 00:28:07,396 And think about the videos you have seen in the past ten years 453 00:28:07,479 --> 00:28:13,485 of Black and brown people ending up dead in altercations with police officers 454 00:28:13,569 --> 00:28:15,612 when they are unarmed? 455 00:28:15,696 --> 00:28:17,739 It's still not a felony. 456 00:28:20,409 --> 00:28:24,830 In 1739, there was a slave revolt in Stono, South Carolina, 457 00:28:24,913 --> 00:28:26,582 that was incredibly violent. 458 00:28:26,665 --> 00:28:29,585 There were some white people that were actually beheaded. 459 00:28:29,668 --> 00:28:33,797 And the state of South Carolina responded, and they responded quickly. 460 00:28:33,881 --> 00:28:38,886 By 1740, they had passed a 58-chapter law, 461 00:28:38,969 --> 00:28:42,973 and the purpose of that law, in their words, not mine, 462 00:28:43,056 --> 00:28:48,604 "So that the slave may be kept in due subjugation and obedience." 463 00:28:50,522 --> 00:28:55,110 This wasn't just social racism or individual racism. 464 00:28:55,194 --> 00:28:58,739 This was the law inscribing this. 465 00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:05,621 Can you talk just a little bit about where you're taking us? 466 00:29:05,704 --> 00:29:08,999 I'm taking you on Ashley Avenue 467 00:29:09,082 --> 00:29:13,295 between Fishburne and Line Streets. 468 00:29:14,755 --> 00:29:17,633 Now, the neighbourhood didn't look like it looks today. 469 00:29:17,716 --> 00:29:20,219 It was a lot of farmland and some wooded area. 470 00:29:25,724 --> 00:29:29,603 Some people just refer to it as the Ashley Avenue Oak. 471 00:29:32,689 --> 00:29:37,110 Lynchings or hangings took place here on this very spot. 472 00:29:40,864 --> 00:29:45,827 This happened from slavery, it happened all the way up until the early 1900s. 473 00:29:45,911 --> 00:29:49,623 So there were lynchings here even after the Civil War ended? 474 00:29:49,706 --> 00:29:50,832 Absolutely. 475 00:29:56,797 --> 00:29:59,716 Well, everybody needs to know what happened here 476 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,802 so that we would all be able to learn from it. 477 00:30:01,885 --> 00:30:03,554 Because it's a part of our history. 478 00:30:04,346 --> 00:30:05,597 American history. 479 00:30:18,735 --> 00:30:22,322 The word "slavery" appears once in the Constitution. 480 00:30:22,406 --> 00:30:26,201 That's in the 13th Amendment, outlawing slavery. 481 00:30:26,285 --> 00:30:28,287 And if you go back to the historical documents, 482 00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:31,290 what you'll see is that the Southern states would get upset 483 00:30:31,373 --> 00:30:33,375 when the word "slavery" was used. 484 00:30:33,458 --> 00:30:37,629 And for God's sakes, we don't wanna make white people uncomfortable. 485 00:30:37,713 --> 00:30:41,216 So the Northerners said, "Don't worry, we won't use the word 'slavery' 486 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,177 when we go to the Constitution. 487 00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:47,097 We'll call them things like 'such persons.'" 488 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:52,269 The Three-fifths Clause in Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution. 489 00:30:52,352 --> 00:30:56,523 All those Black folks in Virginia, 236,000? 490 00:30:56,607 --> 00:30:59,526 Well, they will be counted as three-fifths of a person. 491 00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:00,944 Each one of them. 492 00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:07,534 Article I, Section 9, no ban on migration or importations of such persons 493 00:31:07,618 --> 00:31:08,869 until 1808. 494 00:31:08,952 --> 00:31:10,204 What are they saying? 495 00:31:10,287 --> 00:31:13,874 "We have built all of these ships to go get enslaved people, 496 00:31:13,957 --> 00:31:17,085 and we need at least about 20 years to keep doing it." 497 00:31:17,169 --> 00:31:18,712 So the Constitution says, 498 00:31:18,795 --> 00:31:21,465 "You can keep doing it for the next 20 years." 499 00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:23,050 Article II, Section 1. 500 00:31:23,133 --> 00:31:25,135 "Each state shall appoint a number of electors 501 00:31:25,219 --> 00:31:28,514 equal to the number of senators and representatives." 502 00:31:28,597 --> 00:31:32,434 What we are talking about, folks, is the Electoral College. 503 00:31:32,518 --> 00:31:35,437 The Electoral College was based on the fact 504 00:31:35,521 --> 00:31:37,981 that the Southern states were concerned 505 00:31:38,065 --> 00:31:39,900 about the power that they would have 506 00:31:39,983 --> 00:31:44,655 to prevent the government from taking the enslaved people from them. 507 00:31:44,738 --> 00:31:46,865 And this was one of the compromises. 508 00:31:46,949 --> 00:31:49,034 That Three-fifths Clause? 509 00:31:49,117 --> 00:31:53,914 Three-fifths of 236,000 adds a lot of delegates. 510 00:31:55,791 --> 00:31:58,585 Article IV, Section 2, no freedom for a runaway, 511 00:31:58,669 --> 00:32:01,296 because slaves have to be returned to owners on demand. 512 00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:05,676 And people have said that the folks who wrote our Constitution were brilliant. 513 00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:07,094 And I agree with that. 514 00:32:07,177 --> 00:32:09,346 They were brilliant and they were sneaky too. 515 00:32:09,429 --> 00:32:14,434 Because they said, "You know, somebody may try and amend the Constitution 516 00:32:14,518 --> 00:32:17,104 and get rid of Article I, Section 9. 517 00:32:17,187 --> 00:32:21,400 So in Article V, they said "You can't amend Article I, Section 9, 518 00:32:21,483 --> 00:32:22,776 until 1808." 519 00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:27,906 This is how important the concept of white supremacy 520 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:30,993 was to the people that founded the country. 521 00:32:31,076 --> 00:32:34,955 When they were talking about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, 522 00:32:35,038 --> 00:32:38,959 they saw that as being completely consistent 523 00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:41,920 with enslaving people. 524 00:32:43,463 --> 00:32:45,007 The law picked a side. 525 00:32:48,594 --> 00:32:51,763 If you read the historians, they will tell you 526 00:32:51,847 --> 00:32:56,476 that modern-day police departments were originally formed, 527 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,688 especially in the South, in slave patrols. 528 00:32:59,771 --> 00:33:02,524 I am not saying that modern-day police officers 529 00:33:02,608 --> 00:33:04,484 are members of a slave patrol. 530 00:33:04,568 --> 00:33:05,694 They are not. 531 00:33:05,777 --> 00:33:09,364 There are law enforcement officers all over America 532 00:33:09,448 --> 00:33:12,826 who are fighting for racial justice 533 00:33:12,910 --> 00:33:17,664 and Constitutional and decent policing in our communities. 534 00:33:17,748 --> 00:33:19,291 But I will tell you this: 535 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,502 People in my community, 536 00:33:21,585 --> 00:33:25,339 from my great-great-great grandfathers on down, 537 00:33:25,422 --> 00:33:28,509 have had a reason to fear that badge. 538 00:33:28,592 --> 00:33:30,093 Because the people wearing it, 539 00:33:30,177 --> 00:33:32,679 and the weapons and guns that they carried, 540 00:33:32,763 --> 00:33:35,891 were used to oppress us. 541 00:33:35,974 --> 00:33:37,809 So the next time you're wondering, 542 00:33:37,893 --> 00:33:42,147 "Why is there such animosity in the Black community 543 00:33:42,231 --> 00:33:43,815 when it comes to policing? 544 00:33:43,899 --> 00:33:45,317 Why is there such concern?" 545 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,444 It's in our DNA. 546 00:33:50,489 --> 00:33:52,491 I always used to tell Eric, 547 00:33:52,574 --> 00:33:57,621 you know, "Don't have any interactions with the police officers. 548 00:33:57,704 --> 00:34:00,582 Because the police officers, they have the upper hand. 549 00:34:00,666 --> 00:34:03,001 You have to remember, they're the ones with the guns. 550 00:34:03,126 --> 00:34:07,381 They're the ones that could arrest you, and no matter what you say." 551 00:34:07,464 --> 00:34:10,342 So he would say, "Oh, yeah, I know, Ma." 552 00:34:10,842 --> 00:34:13,679 And even with all the talk, 553 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:18,058 we can talk to our children as much as we want, 554 00:34:18,141 --> 00:34:24,523 it's not always gonna be a good turnout when things like this happen. 555 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:26,900 That's Eric. 556 00:34:26,984 --> 00:34:31,737 Eric is, I think, five months old in that picture, if that old. 557 00:34:32,906 --> 00:34:34,699 He was my first-born. 558 00:34:36,784 --> 00:34:40,539 Eric was a gentle giant. 559 00:34:40,621 --> 00:34:43,583 He was a person who cared about other people 560 00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:46,378 and who thought everyone was his friend. 561 00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:47,462 Are you serious? 562 00:34:52,384 --> 00:34:54,219 If you can share it... 563 00:34:55,929 --> 00:35:00,184 what was going through your mind as you heard your son saying, 564 00:35:00,267 --> 00:35:01,560 "I can't breathe"? 565 00:35:02,186 --> 00:35:07,482 Until now, I cannot look at that video in its entirety, 566 00:35:07,566 --> 00:35:09,818 because when I seen it for the first time, 567 00:35:09,902 --> 00:35:13,530 I remember me going through this house banging on walls, 568 00:35:13,614 --> 00:35:18,035 yelling at the police officers, "Let him go! Let him go!" 569 00:35:18,118 --> 00:35:21,121 Now I could see exactly what they did to him. 570 00:35:21,205 --> 00:35:22,539 Do not touch me. 571 00:35:22,623 --> 00:35:28,337 When this tragedy happened to me, I just wanted to take to my bed, 572 00:35:29,254 --> 00:35:30,839 and just go to sleep, 573 00:35:30,923 --> 00:35:34,843 and just wake up when this terrible nightmare was over. 574 00:35:36,178 --> 00:35:38,138 But it was never over. 575 00:35:38,222 --> 00:35:44,520 And the Holy Spirit spoke to me one evening and says, 576 00:35:44,603 --> 00:35:48,315 "Are you gonna lay there and die like your son? 577 00:35:48,398 --> 00:35:52,194 Or are you gonna get up, lift up his name, 578 00:35:52,277 --> 00:35:59,201 and let people know exactly who he was and not let the media demonise him?" 579 00:35:59,284 --> 00:36:02,788 My son will not have died in vain. 580 00:36:02,871 --> 00:36:05,541 We are gonna support him every step of the way. 581 00:36:05,624 --> 00:36:08,794 Me and my grandchildren, my nieces, nephews, sisters, 582 00:36:08,877 --> 00:36:12,673 everybody is going to support this cause, 583 00:36:12,756 --> 00:36:15,717 'cause we won't rest until we get justice. 584 00:36:15,801 --> 00:36:21,390 Even though it's too late for my son, we have to save other lives. 585 00:36:22,724 --> 00:36:25,477 How would you like your son to be remembered? 586 00:36:26,562 --> 00:36:29,898 Well, I would like my son to be remembered as 587 00:36:29,982 --> 00:36:36,071 the sacrificial lamb, that everyone knows his name now. 588 00:36:36,154 --> 00:36:40,576 And I am so glad that it is making a difference, 589 00:36:40,659 --> 00:36:44,454 that people are more aware of the cruelty 590 00:36:44,538 --> 00:36:48,125 and the injustice that's going on with people of colour, 591 00:36:48,208 --> 00:36:52,629 and maybe they will stand up and take notice, and say, 592 00:36:52,713 --> 00:36:55,507 "Well, hey, we have to do something about this." 593 00:36:58,385 --> 00:36:59,469 This is real. 594 00:36:59,553 --> 00:37:02,556 We see what's actually going on in this world today. 595 00:37:03,515 --> 00:37:09,313 And I'm just hoping that his name will live on in history forever. 596 00:37:09,396 --> 00:37:13,400 And as long as I live, I will always say his name, 597 00:37:13,483 --> 00:37:16,695 and I will ask everyone else to please say his name, 598 00:37:16,778 --> 00:37:20,073 and tell people what does it mean to them. 599 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,493 -His name was Eric Garner. -Yes. 600 00:37:23,577 --> 00:37:26,830 Eric Garner was his name. Is his name. 601 00:37:30,834 --> 00:37:35,339 A home and country 602 00:37:35,422 --> 00:37:40,302 Should leave us no more 603 00:37:40,385 --> 00:37:44,723 Their blood has washed out 604 00:37:44,806 --> 00:37:50,270 Their foul footsteps' pollution 605 00:37:50,354 --> 00:37:55,317 No refuge could save 606 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,613 The hireling and slave 607 00:37:59,696 --> 00:38:04,368 From the terror of flight 608 00:38:04,451 --> 00:38:09,289 Or the gloom of the grave 609 00:38:09,373 --> 00:38:14,211 And the star-spangled banner 610 00:38:14,294 --> 00:38:20,425 In triumph doth wave... 611 00:38:20,509 --> 00:38:22,928 In case you doubt the lyrics to the third verse 612 00:38:23,011 --> 00:38:25,180 of the national anthem that you just heard, 613 00:38:25,264 --> 00:38:29,059 these are the handwritten lyrics from Francis Scott Key. 614 00:38:29,142 --> 00:38:34,565 "No refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight, 615 00:38:34,648 --> 00:38:37,067 or the gloom of the grave." 616 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:41,530 He is celebrating the murder of enslaved people. 617 00:38:41,613 --> 00:38:43,198 And why would he do that? 618 00:38:43,282 --> 00:38:45,576 He was the wealthy owner of enslaved people. 619 00:38:45,659 --> 00:38:48,120 He came from a Maryland plantation-owning family. 620 00:38:48,203 --> 00:38:51,248 In United States v. Reuben Crandall, 621 00:38:51,331 --> 00:38:55,544 he prosecuted a man for possessing abolitionist literature. 622 00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:58,505 He was the city prosecutor in Washington, D.C., 623 00:38:58,589 --> 00:39:01,091 and he sought the death penalty. 624 00:39:01,175 --> 00:39:03,218 And here is his closing argument. 625 00:39:03,302 --> 00:39:06,930 "Are you willing, gentlemen, to abandon your country, 626 00:39:07,014 --> 00:39:11,476 to permit it to be taken from you and occupied by the abolitionist, 627 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:17,816 according to whose taste it is to associate and amalgamate with the Negro?" 628 00:39:19,401 --> 00:39:24,364 I guess he wrote a nice poem, but that's who Francis Scott Key is. 629 00:39:27,242 --> 00:39:31,705 By 1835, cotton from enslaved people's labour, 630 00:39:31,788 --> 00:39:35,042 55% of U.S. exports. 631 00:39:35,125 --> 00:39:38,754 So when we see America starting to become industrialised, 632 00:39:38,837 --> 00:39:43,383 we see that cotton from the labour of enslaved people 633 00:39:43,467 --> 00:39:45,761 was a critical part of this. 634 00:39:45,844 --> 00:39:49,640 Twelve U.S. presidents owned enslaved people. 635 00:39:49,723 --> 00:39:53,519 This covered about 50 of America's first 60 years, 636 00:39:53,602 --> 00:39:55,646 and that's why I am saying to you, 637 00:39:55,729 --> 00:40:00,025 the people that founded this country had no problem with white supremacy. 638 00:40:00,108 --> 00:40:05,697 They depended on it to make America a great nation. 639 00:40:11,078 --> 00:40:13,664 So when did slavery end in New York? 640 00:40:13,747 --> 00:40:17,459 Slavery in New York ended in 1827, 641 00:40:17,543 --> 00:40:21,797 but to really understand New York's rise, 642 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,800 in terms of becoming a financial powerhouse, 643 00:40:24,883 --> 00:40:28,637 it's important to understand the connection between New York 644 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:35,727 and enslavement, even after slavery was abolished in New York City. 645 00:40:37,354 --> 00:40:42,025 The building behind us is the Cotton Exchange, established in the 1850s, 646 00:40:42,109 --> 00:40:46,780 one of the greatest commodities exchanges in the country. 647 00:40:46,864 --> 00:40:52,995 New York was a centre for finance, is still the centre for finance, 648 00:40:53,078 --> 00:40:56,206 and this is where slaveholders would come 649 00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:59,626 to get all their endeavours financed and insured. 650 00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:05,257 We found out recently that major insurers like AIG and Aetna 651 00:41:05,340 --> 00:41:08,760 insured enslaved people as goods. 652 00:41:08,844 --> 00:41:14,933 Enslaved people who died en route during the Middle Passage, 653 00:41:15,017 --> 00:41:17,686 enslaved people who died on the plantation, 654 00:41:17,769 --> 00:41:20,606 all those people, with their lives, were insured. 655 00:41:20,689 --> 00:41:22,691 So they have life insurance policies. 656 00:41:22,774 --> 00:41:27,237 Also, major investment banks, like the now-defunct Lehman Brothers, 657 00:41:27,863 --> 00:41:31,950 provided financing for slaveholders. 658 00:41:32,784 --> 00:41:36,413 So the economy of New York was entwined with slavery. 659 00:41:38,707 --> 00:41:43,712 We're walking up just from the waterfront, right back here, about a block away, 660 00:41:43,795 --> 00:41:49,259 and as we're coming to the corner of Water and Wall Streets, 661 00:41:49,343 --> 00:41:51,011 there is this little park. 662 00:41:58,060 --> 00:42:01,813 I have an idea in my mind when you say "slave market." 663 00:42:01,897 --> 00:42:06,777 But can you just tell us, explicitly, what was happening on this site? 664 00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:09,196 So there was a municipal market, a pavilion, 665 00:42:09,279 --> 00:42:13,283 that operated from 1711 until 1762. 666 00:42:13,367 --> 00:42:18,705 By the mid-1700s, one in five New Yorkers were enslaved. 667 00:42:18,789 --> 00:42:20,499 So they created this municipal market, 668 00:42:20,582 --> 00:42:23,335 where once you were kidnapped and brought here, 669 00:42:23,418 --> 00:42:25,629 you would be sold at this pavilion. 670 00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:29,007 In addition, if you were already enslaved in New York, 671 00:42:29,091 --> 00:42:32,135 and your slaveholder didn't have something for you to do during the day, 672 00:42:32,219 --> 00:42:36,557 you could be rented out for the day at this market. 673 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,143 Like any other transaction that might occur in the city 674 00:42:40,227 --> 00:42:43,105 where the city would impose a tax to get revenue, 675 00:42:43,188 --> 00:42:46,567 the slave trade was just another thing to be taxed? 676 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:49,862 Exactly. And that's why New York City was such a pro-slavery city. 677 00:42:49,945 --> 00:42:51,905 When we say that to people, they're shocked. 678 00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:54,449 New York was pro-slavery. 679 00:42:54,533 --> 00:42:58,370 New York received, from cotton alone, 680 00:42:58,453 --> 00:43:01,915 $200 million in that time's currency. 681 00:43:01,999 --> 00:43:06,795 So if you could imagine the interests that would wanna protect that. 682 00:43:09,631 --> 00:43:13,177 How many of you knew that the mayor of New York City 683 00:43:13,260 --> 00:43:17,681 advocated that New York leave the Union during the Civil War? 684 00:43:18,348 --> 00:43:20,475 He didn't say, "Join the Confederacy." 685 00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,354 What he said was, "With our aggrieved brethren of the slave states, 686 00:43:24,438 --> 00:43:27,316 we have friendly relations and a common sympathy. 687 00:43:27,399 --> 00:43:32,487 We have not participated in the warfare upon their Constitutional rights 688 00:43:32,571 --> 00:43:34,531 or their domestic institutions." 689 00:43:34,615 --> 00:43:37,326 He was saying, "We can't give this up. 690 00:43:37,409 --> 00:43:40,370 If we withdraw from the Union, we don't have to join the South. 691 00:43:40,454 --> 00:43:44,416 We can make business deals with the North, and business deals with the South. 692 00:43:44,499 --> 00:43:46,960 The money will keep coming in." 693 00:43:48,712 --> 00:43:53,592 So, what was the role of slavery in America on the eve of the Civil War? 694 00:43:53,675 --> 00:43:59,223 Well, that yearly cotton production, 1.5 million pounds in 1790, 695 00:43:59,306 --> 00:44:05,646 try 2.3 billion pounds, 60% of U.S. exports by 1860. 696 00:44:05,729 --> 00:44:11,109 If any of you have ever held a ball of freshly picked cotton in your hand, 697 00:44:11,193 --> 00:44:13,529 with no stems or no sticks on it, 698 00:44:13,612 --> 00:44:17,449 you will know that it weighs virtually nothing. 699 00:44:18,116 --> 00:44:20,911 How much of that do you think you had to pick 700 00:44:20,994 --> 00:44:24,706 to get to 2.3 billion pounds of it? 701 00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:25,958 And how did they do that? 702 00:44:26,041 --> 00:44:29,545 Because the number of enslaved people wasn't 700,000 anymore. 703 00:44:29,628 --> 00:44:31,421 It was 4 million. 704 00:44:31,964 --> 00:44:37,511 And remember, we're not bringing over people on slave ships after 1808. 705 00:44:37,594 --> 00:44:40,347 Now, history will show there were definitely ships 706 00:44:40,430 --> 00:44:46,103 of enslaved people brought after 1808, but that market dried up very quickly. 707 00:44:46,186 --> 00:44:49,898 This was done by breeding. 708 00:44:50,607 --> 00:44:53,151 Black women were bred... 709 00:44:54,528 --> 00:44:56,822 so that they would bear children 710 00:44:56,905 --> 00:45:00,659 who could continue American cotton production. 711 00:45:04,329 --> 00:45:08,041 The value of enslaved people, in 1860 dollars, 712 00:45:08,125 --> 00:45:11,545 $3.5 billion dollars. 713 00:45:12,379 --> 00:45:16,633 One hundred billion dollars in today's money. 714 00:45:17,718 --> 00:45:20,596 More millionaires per capita in the Mississippi Valley, 715 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:22,764 that's Tennessee, Mississippi, and Louisiana, 716 00:45:22,848 --> 00:45:24,641 than any place else in America. 717 00:45:24,725 --> 00:45:29,146 Today, that is one of the poorest sections in the country. 718 00:45:29,229 --> 00:45:33,400 There are all kinds of people who are desperate to make arguments 719 00:45:33,483 --> 00:45:37,487 that the Civil War was about something other than slavery. 720 00:45:37,571 --> 00:45:42,951 In the state of Texas, elected officials are trying to pass laws 721 00:45:43,035 --> 00:45:47,289 that will require their school teachers to teach that slavery 722 00:45:47,372 --> 00:45:50,459 was a side issue in the Civil War. 723 00:45:51,668 --> 00:45:55,422 And my response to that is, once again, don't believe me. 724 00:45:55,506 --> 00:45:59,051 Just go back and look at what the states said. 725 00:45:59,134 --> 00:46:04,014 "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery, 726 00:46:04,097 --> 00:46:07,226 the greatest material interest of the world." 727 00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:12,481 "The people of the slaveholding states are bound together by the same necessity 728 00:46:12,564 --> 00:46:16,527 and determination to preserve African slavery." 729 00:46:16,610 --> 00:46:20,197 "That the servitude of the African race, as existing in these states, 730 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,618 is mutually beneficial to both bond and free." 731 00:46:24,701 --> 00:46:28,413 "The election of Mr Lincoln cannot be regarded otherwise 732 00:46:28,497 --> 00:46:30,207 than a solemn declaration 733 00:46:30,290 --> 00:46:33,669 on the part of a great majority of the Northern people 734 00:46:33,752 --> 00:46:38,382 of hostility to the South, her property, and her institutions." 735 00:46:38,465 --> 00:46:41,593 "They have endeavoured to weaken our security, 736 00:46:41,677 --> 00:46:45,055 to disturb our domestic peace and tranquillity, 737 00:46:45,138 --> 00:46:47,933 and persistently refused to comply 738 00:46:48,016 --> 00:46:52,145 with their express Constitutional obligations to us, 739 00:46:52,229 --> 00:46:54,439 in reference to that property." 740 00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:59,695 Georgia was essentially saying, "You freaking lied to us. 741 00:46:59,778 --> 00:47:03,490 You told us that we could keep these people as enslaved people, 742 00:47:03,574 --> 00:47:05,617 and now you're taking them away from us, 743 00:47:05,701 --> 00:47:07,786 and we're leaving the Union because of it." 744 00:47:07,870 --> 00:47:10,038 And you know what? Georgia was right. 745 00:47:10,581 --> 00:47:15,210 They were promised that they would get to keep people as enslaved people. 746 00:47:15,836 --> 00:47:20,048 I'm from the state of Tennessee, and if I wanna go to my home state, 747 00:47:20,132 --> 00:47:24,761 and walk into the Tennessee statehouse to see one of my state legislators, 748 00:47:24,845 --> 00:47:28,682 I gotta walk past this guy, Nathan Bedford Forrest, 749 00:47:28,765 --> 00:47:33,395 who was either the originator of the KKK, or one of its first Grand Wizards, 750 00:47:33,478 --> 00:47:39,234 somebody that was clearly involved with the KKK coming to a height of power, 751 00:47:39,318 --> 00:47:42,029 somebody that was a Confederate soldier, 752 00:47:42,112 --> 00:47:45,199 and what he had to say about the Civil War, at least he was honest, 753 00:47:45,282 --> 00:47:49,119 "If we ain't fighting for slavery, then what the hell are we fighting for?" 754 00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:57,294 Ignorance is not bliss, because it allows a false history to thrive. 755 00:47:57,377 --> 00:48:00,339 "Who controls the past, controls the future." 756 00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:04,134 And if slavery just ended, and then we had the Civil Rights Movement, 757 00:48:04,218 --> 00:48:07,429 and everything was fine, then what are we still complaining about? 758 00:48:07,513 --> 00:48:10,224 "Who controls the past, controls the future." 759 00:48:10,307 --> 00:48:12,726 And your children, they are being taught 760 00:48:12,809 --> 00:48:15,103 that slavery was a side issue in the Civil War. 761 00:48:19,149 --> 00:48:21,902 Six months before the Emancipation Proclamation, 762 00:48:21,985 --> 00:48:26,490 Abraham Lincoln passed the Compensated Emancipation Act. 763 00:48:26,573 --> 00:48:28,116 What did that do? 764 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,993 He freed D.C. slaves, 765 00:48:30,077 --> 00:48:34,748 and first, he set up a commission to pay approximately $300, 766 00:48:34,831 --> 00:48:37,793 which was about $7000 in today's money, 767 00:48:37,876 --> 00:48:43,590 in compensation to former slave owners, for each enslaved African freed. 768 00:48:43,674 --> 00:48:46,635 Please read that carefully. I'm not fooling. 769 00:48:46,718 --> 00:48:53,433 After nine months, 900 slave owners were paid $1 million, 770 00:48:53,517 --> 00:48:56,186 in 1860 money... 771 00:48:57,396 --> 00:48:59,648 for lost property. 772 00:49:00,482 --> 00:49:05,112 So when people have a discussion about reparations for slavery, 773 00:49:05,195 --> 00:49:09,741 it's a false debate, because reparations have already been paid. 774 00:49:09,825 --> 00:49:12,452 They were paid to slave owners. 775 00:49:14,538 --> 00:49:19,668 At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land... 776 00:49:20,377 --> 00:49:23,255 through an act of Congress, 777 00:49:23,338 --> 00:49:28,010 our government was giving away millions of acres of land 778 00:49:28,093 --> 00:49:30,053 in the West and the Midwest. 779 00:49:31,221 --> 00:49:33,515 Which meant that it was willing to undergird 780 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:36,643 its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor. 781 00:49:36,727 --> 00:49:39,354 But not only did they give the land... 782 00:49:40,189 --> 00:49:42,649 they built land grant colleges 783 00:49:42,733 --> 00:49:45,861 with government money to teach them how to farm. 784 00:49:45,944 --> 00:49:52,284 Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. 785 00:49:52,367 --> 00:49:56,121 Not only that, they provided low interest rates 786 00:49:56,205 --> 00:49:59,166 in order that they could mechanise their farms. 787 00:49:59,249 --> 00:50:02,628 Not only that, today many of these people 788 00:50:02,711 --> 00:50:07,674 are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, 789 00:50:07,758 --> 00:50:10,219 and they are the very people telling the Black man 790 00:50:10,302 --> 00:50:13,430 that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. 791 00:50:14,598 --> 00:50:18,143 And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality. 792 00:50:18,227 --> 00:50:20,270 Now, when we come to Washington... 793 00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:26,944 in this campaign, we are coming to get our cheque. 794 00:50:30,531 --> 00:50:32,199 So, what happened after the war? 795 00:50:32,282 --> 00:50:34,493 Something was happening in the South, 796 00:50:34,576 --> 00:50:38,080 because the enslaved people who were newly freed 797 00:50:38,163 --> 00:50:41,917 had been in the starting blocks for 246 years. 798 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,045 And when the word "go" came, they were ready. 799 00:50:45,128 --> 00:50:51,093 'Cause what many people fail to recognise is Reconstruction was actually working. 800 00:50:52,302 --> 00:50:56,223 In 1868, before the 15th Amendment passed, 801 00:50:56,306 --> 00:51:01,228 there were 700,000 Black registered voters in the South. 802 00:51:01,311 --> 00:51:05,774 Two thousand Black men served in elected office. 803 00:51:05,858 --> 00:51:08,819 There was a Civil Rights Act in 1875. 804 00:51:08,902 --> 00:51:12,573 I bet most of the lawyers in this room don't even know this. 805 00:51:12,656 --> 00:51:14,741 It outlawed racial discrimination 806 00:51:14,825 --> 00:51:18,787 in housing, schools, public transportation, and jury service. 807 00:51:18,871 --> 00:51:22,624 It was just overruled by the Supreme Court in 1883. 808 00:51:23,208 --> 00:51:25,878 And then Rutherford Hayes got elected president. 809 00:51:25,961 --> 00:51:29,882 And in 1877, he withdrew the Northern troops from the South, 810 00:51:29,965 --> 00:51:32,718 and what happened then is that the Confederates regrouped 811 00:51:32,801 --> 00:51:35,262 as organisations like the KKK. 812 00:51:35,345 --> 00:51:39,766 The Southern states started passing laws to enforce and maintain white supremacy, 813 00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:45,564 and if you want an example of what was happening, in 1896 in Louisiana, 814 00:51:45,647 --> 00:51:50,736 there were 130,344 Black registered voters, 815 00:51:50,819 --> 00:51:53,655 and two years later, there were just over 5000. 816 00:51:53,739 --> 00:51:58,619 Why do you think 125,000 people 817 00:51:58,702 --> 00:52:01,455 decided not to vote? 818 00:52:04,833 --> 00:52:07,669 There was a chance at the end of the Civil War, 819 00:52:08,212 --> 00:52:11,089 and there was Reconstruction, and it was working. 820 00:52:11,173 --> 00:52:15,177 And they reached the tipping point, and they just rolled right back. 821 00:52:17,221 --> 00:52:20,140 And this is what we rolled back to. 822 00:52:22,518 --> 00:52:27,981 In 1896, the United States Supreme Court decided Plessy v. Ferguson. 823 00:52:28,065 --> 00:52:32,778 Mr Plessy got on a train, on purpose, knowing he would be arrested, 824 00:52:32,861 --> 00:52:35,822 to test the law in America. 825 00:52:35,906 --> 00:52:38,575 And the United States Supreme Court said, 826 00:52:38,659 --> 00:52:43,038 "The law of America is separate, but equal." 827 00:52:43,121 --> 00:52:47,376 It's not the custom, it's the law of the land. 828 00:52:50,379 --> 00:52:52,798 Now, I'm gonna ask you to look at that image, 829 00:52:52,881 --> 00:52:57,135 and understand what was normal, 830 00:52:57,219 --> 00:53:00,556 accepted, and American... 831 00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:03,684 in our country. 832 00:53:13,986 --> 00:53:17,781 Because you wanna talk about race in America at the turn of the 20th century, 833 00:53:17,865 --> 00:53:21,201 well, there were race riots in New Orleans and New York City. 834 00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:25,122 In 1901, 105 Black people are lynched. 835 00:53:25,205 --> 00:53:28,208 1902, 85 Black people are lynched. 836 00:53:28,292 --> 00:53:31,461 1903, 84 Black people lynched. 837 00:53:31,545 --> 00:53:34,923 1904, 76 Black people lynched. 838 00:53:35,007 --> 00:53:38,135 1905, 57 Black people lynched. 839 00:53:38,218 --> 00:53:41,388 1906, 62 Black people lynched. 840 00:53:41,471 --> 00:53:44,600 1907, 58 Black people lynched. 841 00:53:44,683 --> 00:53:47,728 1908, 89 Black people lynched. 842 00:53:47,811 --> 00:53:50,856 1909, 69 Black people lynched. 843 00:53:50,939 --> 00:53:54,151 1910, 67 Black people lynched. 844 00:53:54,234 --> 00:53:57,404 Between 1877 and 1950, 845 00:53:57,487 --> 00:54:03,702 more than 4000 racial, terrorised lynchings in America. 846 00:54:14,213 --> 00:54:18,800 This article appeared in the Chicago Defender, December 20, 1947. 847 00:54:18,884 --> 00:54:25,307 It says, "Enraged, jealous whites shoot down successful businessman. 848 00:54:25,390 --> 00:54:29,728 Believed Dixie gang murdered young father. 849 00:54:29,811 --> 00:54:33,982 Enraged whites, jealous over the business success of a Negro, 850 00:54:34,066 --> 00:54:37,528 are believed to be the lynchers of Elmore Bolling, 851 00:54:37,611 --> 00:54:42,157 who was found last week, riddled with shotgun and pistol bullets. 852 00:54:42,241 --> 00:54:48,163 Those who know say Bolling has long been a marked man, 853 00:54:48,247 --> 00:54:54,294 since he was rated by whites here as too successful to be a Negro." 854 00:54:58,423 --> 00:55:01,593 Your family found your father's body in a ditch. 855 00:55:02,135 --> 00:55:04,263 Is this the ditch that we're looking at now? 856 00:55:04,346 --> 00:55:06,181 Yes, this is actually the spot, 857 00:55:06,265 --> 00:55:10,102 and it's ingrained in my memory 858 00:55:10,185 --> 00:55:13,856 where I'm just looking at him in the ditch with his eyes open. 859 00:55:16,984 --> 00:55:18,277 We heard the shots. 860 00:55:19,152 --> 00:55:22,447 We thought that someone was killing some cows, 861 00:55:22,531 --> 00:55:25,200 but we actually heard the shots that killed my dad. 862 00:55:27,953 --> 00:55:31,582 We all went down there, not knowing what to expect. 863 00:55:33,375 --> 00:55:37,880 His truck that he was driving was still running, with the lights on. 864 00:55:39,548 --> 00:55:43,218 He had been shot six times with a pistol, and once in the back with a shotgun. 865 00:55:46,513 --> 00:55:50,350 I knew that what had happened to my father 866 00:55:50,434 --> 00:55:53,645 was extremely bad. 867 00:55:54,354 --> 00:56:00,736 I cried most of the time until my mom finally sent me away with the neighbour. 868 00:56:02,988 --> 00:56:05,782 This is a fabulous picture. 869 00:56:05,866 --> 00:56:08,035 Could you tell us who is here? 870 00:56:08,118 --> 00:56:14,374 This is Mom, Bertha Bolling. Bertha Nowden Bolling. 871 00:56:15,876 --> 00:56:19,004 And this is my dad, Elmore Bolling. 872 00:56:19,087 --> 00:56:23,342 And one of the things that we always laugh about, the children, 873 00:56:23,425 --> 00:56:28,722 is that this thing in his hand, actually, is her purse. 874 00:56:28,805 --> 00:56:30,599 She kept the money. 875 00:56:30,682 --> 00:56:36,188 So on this picture, Dad took her purse and had it under his arm, 876 00:56:36,271 --> 00:56:37,940 because that was the money. 877 00:56:42,778 --> 00:56:47,866 What was the trajectory of your family after your father was lynched? 878 00:56:48,492 --> 00:56:51,245 By my father being the main breadwinner, 879 00:56:51,328 --> 00:56:55,874 we went from prosperity to poverty almost overnight. 880 00:56:55,958 --> 00:57:01,797 And my mom, she became a presser in a dry cleaners. 881 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,717 And her arms had the burns that showed, 882 00:57:05,801 --> 00:57:08,971 you know, that came along with that kind of labour. 883 00:57:09,054 --> 00:57:12,140 And that was the labour that put me through college. 884 00:57:15,018 --> 00:57:19,815 The lynchings occurred for terroristic purposes. 885 00:57:19,898 --> 00:57:22,651 They wanted to keep Blacks terrified, 886 00:57:22,734 --> 00:57:26,321 to keep them from trying to do things, and it worked. 887 00:57:28,615 --> 00:57:30,033 Was anyone ever prosecuted? 888 00:57:30,117 --> 00:57:36,874 No. The killers who, actually, one of them actually admitted that he killed my father 889 00:57:36,957 --> 00:57:41,044 because he insulted his wife over the telephone, were never indicted. 890 00:57:48,343 --> 00:57:51,889 And that was what made me decide to do the historic marker. 891 00:57:53,390 --> 00:57:58,478 I had to have some symbol to tell the world 892 00:57:58,562 --> 00:58:05,319 that here was a good man that was killed just because he was successful. 893 00:58:05,861 --> 00:58:10,866 Am I correct that it is on, literally, the very spot where your father was killed? 894 00:58:10,949 --> 00:58:13,744 Within feet of where he was actually killed. 895 00:58:32,763 --> 00:58:36,600 And Confederate monuments started appearing in America. 896 00:58:37,184 --> 00:58:40,771 And these weren't monuments that were built right after the Civil War, 897 00:58:40,854 --> 00:58:43,982 when people were thinking, "Oh, my God, we just lost this war, 898 00:58:44,066 --> 00:58:47,819 and our heroes are so dear to our heart. We wanna memorialise them." 899 00:58:47,903 --> 00:58:51,240 No, no. They came mostly in the 20th century. 900 00:58:52,366 --> 00:58:54,660 This is a guy named John Pelham. 901 00:58:55,369 --> 00:58:56,828 What did he do? 902 00:58:56,912 --> 00:59:00,040 Well, he resigned from West Point in 1861 903 00:59:00,123 --> 00:59:04,002 to join the Confederate Army, and here's what he did to get a monument. 904 00:59:04,545 --> 00:59:09,132 "He displayed a genius for dashing to a spot that commanded the battlefield, 905 00:59:09,216 --> 00:59:11,802 and bravely raining shot and canisters 906 00:59:11,885 --> 00:59:14,596 on forces that greatly outnumbered his own." 907 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:19,393 Translated, he killed a whole bunch of American soldiers 908 00:59:19,476 --> 00:59:21,478 in defence of slavery. 909 00:59:22,437 --> 00:59:28,360 And they built a monument to him for that, not for something else. 910 00:59:28,443 --> 00:59:32,030 When people say, "Well, George Washington owned slaves too, and he has a monument. 911 00:59:32,114 --> 00:59:33,782 Are you gonna take away his monument?" 912 00:59:33,866 --> 00:59:37,536 And my response is the Washington Monument was not built 913 00:59:37,619 --> 00:59:39,705 because George Washington owned slaves. 914 00:59:39,788 --> 00:59:43,792 He did own slaves, and he will be damned for that. 915 00:59:43,876 --> 00:59:48,088 Having said that, George Washington led the Revolutionary Army, 916 00:59:48,172 --> 00:59:49,965 and, I don't know, he founded the country? 917 00:59:50,048 --> 00:59:52,551 So maybe that's why they built him a monument. 918 00:59:54,761 --> 00:59:59,266 The fact that he owned enslaved people had nothing to do with his monument. 919 00:59:59,349 --> 01:00:02,978 The Confederate monuments were built for one reason, 920 01:00:03,061 --> 01:00:08,150 to honour people for what they did from 1861 to 1865. 921 01:00:08,233 --> 01:00:10,319 And those monuments honour people 922 01:00:10,402 --> 01:00:13,280 during that time period for doing one thing, 923 01:00:13,363 --> 01:00:16,366 maiming and murdering American soldiers 924 01:00:16,450 --> 01:00:20,078 so that they could keep owning enslaved people. 925 01:00:21,538 --> 01:00:23,415 That's where the monuments are. 926 01:00:25,417 --> 01:00:27,544 Those are the top ten states. 927 01:00:29,755 --> 01:00:33,258 And this is who we are in America. 928 01:00:34,426 --> 01:00:37,888 What's up, y'all? Tami Sawyer here. 929 01:00:38,847 --> 01:00:42,643 I'm live at the Nathan Bedford Forrest statue. 930 01:00:43,352 --> 01:00:45,479 Right here in Memphis, Tennessee. 931 01:00:45,562 --> 01:00:49,858 I just wanted to come down and let Nathan Bedford Forrest know... 932 01:00:50,943 --> 01:00:53,445 that he has a formidable opponent. 933 01:00:56,490 --> 01:01:02,120 I was asked, "What's one thing you think you could make happen in a year?" 934 01:01:02,204 --> 01:01:04,581 I said, "We can get these damn statues removed." 935 01:01:04,665 --> 01:01:09,378 And I didn't believe it, but I said, "That sounds like one thing we could do." 936 01:01:09,461 --> 01:01:12,798 And I went on Facebook, and I made a post that said, 937 01:01:12,881 --> 01:01:15,217 "Who wants to talk about these statues?" And next thing, 938 01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:19,763 we had filled Bruce Elementary gym with 350 Memphians of all ages, 939 01:01:19,847 --> 01:01:22,349 races, genders, sexualities, creeds, 940 01:01:22,432 --> 01:01:25,602 even a descendant of Nathan Bedford Forrest himself, 941 01:01:25,686 --> 01:01:27,604 who came together to say, 942 01:01:28,188 --> 01:01:31,191 "We want Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jefferson Davis, 943 01:01:31,275 --> 01:01:34,236 and all Confederate memorabilia, removed from our city." 944 01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:36,697 -Take them down. -901. 945 01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,991 -Take them down. -901. 946 01:01:40,242 --> 01:01:42,494 Protect the people, not the statue. 947 01:01:42,578 --> 01:01:44,663 Protect the people, not the statue. 948 01:01:44,746 --> 01:01:47,249 Protect the people, not the statue. 949 01:01:49,543 --> 01:01:51,503 How do you respond to the people that say, 950 01:01:51,587 --> 01:01:55,507 "This isn't about slavery or oppression of Black people. 951 01:01:55,591 --> 01:01:58,635 This is about Southern culture, and Southern history, 952 01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:00,971 and maintaining our history"? 953 01:02:02,431 --> 01:02:07,102 I think that those people need to, one, learn history. 954 01:02:07,186 --> 01:02:10,856 When people talk about Southerners, they think about white people. 955 01:02:10,939 --> 01:02:14,109 But the economy of the South and the culture of the South 956 01:02:14,193 --> 01:02:16,653 was built off slavery. 957 01:02:16,737 --> 01:02:21,116 The food we eat, right? Fried chicken, ham hocks, collard greens. 958 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,618 That's Black people. 959 01:02:22,701 --> 01:02:24,369 The music we listen to. 960 01:02:24,453 --> 01:02:29,291 Elvis is not Elvis without Black musicians, right? 961 01:02:29,374 --> 01:02:32,503 Martin Luther King was killed here, right? 962 01:02:32,586 --> 01:02:34,880 Blackness, the blood of Black people, 963 01:02:34,963 --> 01:02:38,091 seeps so deeply into the ground of the South, 964 01:02:38,175 --> 01:02:39,510 you cannot look at-- 965 01:02:39,593 --> 01:02:42,638 You cannot describe Southerners or Southern history 966 01:02:42,721 --> 01:02:46,725 or American history with the exclusion of Black people. 967 01:02:46,808 --> 01:02:51,647 And so the people who say that we're rewriting history, they rewrote history. 968 01:02:51,730 --> 01:02:54,066 Now, if we had a statue that says, 969 01:02:54,149 --> 01:02:59,196 "Here lies the graves of a notorious slave owner and his wife, 970 01:02:59,988 --> 01:03:02,950 who only became one of the richest people in Memphis 971 01:03:03,033 --> 01:03:07,204 because of his brutal practises towards Black Americans." 972 01:03:07,955 --> 01:03:13,460 But that's not the history that people are ready to reconcile. 973 01:03:15,337 --> 01:03:18,257 And I see our Black kids, their lights go out in their eyes 974 01:03:18,340 --> 01:03:21,134 at 3, 4, 5 years old. 975 01:03:21,218 --> 01:03:24,930 They believe they're lesser than by the time they've reached kindergarten. 976 01:03:26,557 --> 01:03:28,892 And if we can change anything, 977 01:03:28,976 --> 01:03:31,812 I believe that we could change the landscape of our city 978 01:03:31,895 --> 01:03:35,023 so they didn't have to be reminded on a daily basis 979 01:03:35,107 --> 01:03:39,361 that they are considered second-class citizens by many people in this country. 980 01:03:41,572 --> 01:03:45,701 History is being made in Memphis tonight. 981 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,912 Within the next few hours... 982 01:03:50,205 --> 01:03:56,044 both the Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jefferson Davis statues 983 01:03:56,128 --> 01:03:58,714 will no longer stand in our city. 984 01:04:04,136 --> 01:04:06,305 While we watched the cranes come in, 985 01:04:06,388 --> 01:04:10,392 the park get filled with workers, and I was right across the street to witness, 986 01:04:10,475 --> 01:04:13,437 at 9:01 on December 20th, 2017, 987 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,481 Nathan Bedford Forrest rise above that pedestal 988 01:04:16,565 --> 01:04:18,483 for the first time since he was placed. 989 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,740 What was that feeling like? 990 01:04:25,490 --> 01:04:27,451 It's a complicated feeling. 991 01:04:27,534 --> 01:04:32,623 One of relief, one of joy, and one of sadness. 992 01:04:32,706 --> 01:04:33,916 Where was the sadness from? 993 01:04:34,917 --> 01:04:38,003 We had to fight so hard, right? 994 01:04:38,086 --> 01:04:41,340 That I had friends who went to jail for this, 995 01:04:41,423 --> 01:04:44,426 that a woman was killed for this, right? 996 01:04:44,510 --> 01:04:46,803 And that our statue came down, 997 01:04:46,887 --> 01:04:51,266 and almost another thousand stand across the country. 998 01:04:52,226 --> 01:04:54,811 And that people are working harder to protect them 999 01:04:54,895 --> 01:04:58,357 and tell us that we are wrong or attention-seekers 1000 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,277 than they are to reconcile and get to a point of truth 1001 01:05:02,361 --> 01:05:04,988 and understanding about who these people were. 1002 01:05:23,966 --> 01:05:27,678 February 10, 1915, The Birth of a Nation is released. 1003 01:05:27,761 --> 01:05:34,017 D.W. Griffith's stupendous motion picture production of Thomas Dixon's famous story, 1004 01:05:34,101 --> 01:05:35,227 The Clansman. 1005 01:05:35,310 --> 01:05:40,941 It employed the services of 18,000 people, and a symphony orchestra of 40. 1006 01:05:41,024 --> 01:05:43,569 As you can see, it took three years in production. 1007 01:05:45,737 --> 01:05:49,825 It was one of the first movies screened in the White House. 1008 01:05:51,910 --> 01:05:55,914 And it had white actors in blackface, like this one. 1009 01:05:58,333 --> 01:06:00,335 And this story, by the way... 1010 01:06:02,045 --> 01:06:07,509 does damage, not only to every Black person... 1011 01:06:09,011 --> 01:06:13,348 but it takes the issue of sexual assault... 1012 01:06:13,974 --> 01:06:18,812 and twists it in a way that's incredible. 1013 01:06:20,856 --> 01:06:24,067 Because, of course, rather than let a Black man touch her... 1014 01:06:28,822 --> 01:06:30,490 she'll jump to her death. 1015 01:06:35,454 --> 01:06:38,248 This is what Woodrow Wilson had to say about the movie. 1016 01:06:38,332 --> 01:06:41,793 "The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation 1017 01:06:41,877 --> 01:06:45,923 until at last, there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, 1018 01:06:46,006 --> 01:06:50,761 a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country." 1019 01:06:50,844 --> 01:06:54,139 This is the president of the United States. 1020 01:06:54,223 --> 01:06:58,519 Folks, this was entertainment. 1021 01:06:59,353 --> 01:07:03,190 This was a pleasant evening at the movies. 1022 01:07:04,316 --> 01:07:09,154 This is who we are as Americans at the turn of the last century. 1023 01:07:17,704 --> 01:07:21,875 Over your shoulder is a bridge with a man's name on it. 1024 01:07:21,959 --> 01:07:27,339 And I have seen pictures of that bridge ever since I was a young, young child, 1025 01:07:27,422 --> 01:07:31,176 and I see the name Edmund Pettus. 1026 01:07:31,260 --> 01:07:33,470 I think there are very few people in America 1027 01:07:33,554 --> 01:07:36,390 who know who Edmund Pettus really was. 1028 01:07:38,225 --> 01:07:44,731 Edmund Pettus was a powerful leader in this area. 1029 01:07:45,566 --> 01:07:48,819 He was a former U.S. Senator. 1030 01:07:50,612 --> 01:07:57,202 Most importantly, he was the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. 1031 01:07:57,286 --> 01:07:58,453 Highest leader. 1032 01:07:58,537 --> 01:08:02,416 When this bridge was completed in 1940 or so, 1033 01:08:02,499 --> 01:08:04,376 they wanted a symbol. 1034 01:08:04,459 --> 01:08:05,919 They wanted to name... 1035 01:08:06,712 --> 01:08:12,634 the bridge after somebody who would send a signal 1036 01:08:12,718 --> 01:08:14,469 of "stay in your place," 1037 01:08:14,553 --> 01:08:20,475 because symbols are more powerful than words. 1038 01:08:20,559 --> 01:08:23,895 And so this is a very powerful symbol. 1039 01:08:23,979 --> 01:08:29,067 Every time someone cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge, it gets in them. 1040 01:08:29,151 --> 01:08:33,529 Every time someone see a photo of it, it gets in them. 1041 01:08:33,613 --> 01:08:38,160 Every time one sees something on TV, it gets in them. 1042 01:08:38,243 --> 01:08:40,203 So that's why, in the Senate, 1043 01:08:40,996 --> 01:08:45,000 I introduced a resolution 1044 01:08:45,082 --> 01:08:49,087 to change the name from Edmund Pettus Bridge 1045 01:08:49,171 --> 01:08:51,506 to the Freedom Bridge. 1046 01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:54,926 The state of Alabama, last year, passed a law that said 1047 01:08:55,010 --> 01:08:58,430 you cannot change the names of any of these 1048 01:08:58,514 --> 01:09:01,558 so-called iconic white supremacist symbols. 1049 01:09:03,393 --> 01:09:05,895 And somebody says, "Well, this is history." 1050 01:09:06,772 --> 01:09:09,191 This is symbolism. This is not history. 1051 01:09:09,274 --> 01:09:12,903 We ought never confuse symbolism with history. 1052 01:09:13,946 --> 01:09:19,952 Symbolism is somebody's idea about a response to what happened. 1053 01:09:20,035 --> 01:09:21,411 Not what happened. 1054 01:09:21,495 --> 01:09:23,872 You are to move off of the street immediately 1055 01:09:23,956 --> 01:09:26,792 and assemble in front of Lehman's Pontiac Dealer, 1056 01:09:26,875 --> 01:09:29,002 otherwise you will not be protected. 1057 01:09:39,513 --> 01:09:43,934 And here it is, 50-some years later after that, 1058 01:09:44,017 --> 01:09:46,603 and we're still fighting for the right to vote, 1059 01:09:46,687 --> 01:09:50,357 we're still fighting to keep our children from being killed, 1060 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:56,029 we're still fighting to keep our people from being incarcerated, 1061 01:09:56,113 --> 01:09:58,740 we're still fighting for all kinds of things. 1062 01:09:58,824 --> 01:10:02,744 So that just demonstrates the depth of white supremacy. 1063 01:10:02,828 --> 01:10:05,581 And I didn't fully understand that. 1064 01:10:16,425 --> 01:10:18,760 The Greenwood neighbourhood in Tulsa 1065 01:10:18,844 --> 01:10:21,471 was called Black Wall Street by many people. 1066 01:10:22,055 --> 01:10:25,475 These are some of the images of how Black Americans 1067 01:10:25,559 --> 01:10:30,439 were living in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in 1921. 1068 01:10:30,522 --> 01:10:35,068 The level of economic advancement was astounding. 1069 01:10:39,364 --> 01:10:44,786 Six hundred businesses, 21 churches, 21 restaurants, 30 grocery stores, 1070 01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:48,874 two movie theatres, six private airplanes, 1071 01:10:48,957 --> 01:10:53,837 a hospital, bank, post office, schools. 1072 01:10:53,921 --> 01:10:58,467 Libraries, law offices, even a bus system. 1073 01:10:59,468 --> 01:11:03,722 On May 30th of 1921, a young Black man was arrested 1074 01:11:03,805 --> 01:11:08,310 and accused of trying to assault a white female elevator operator. 1075 01:11:08,393 --> 01:11:12,648 All of the historical records say that the kid tripped in the elevator 1076 01:11:12,731 --> 01:11:14,358 and bumped into this white woman. 1077 01:11:14,441 --> 01:11:17,110 But he was arrested, and the rumour mill started, 1078 01:11:17,194 --> 01:11:18,403 and a lynch mob formed. 1079 01:11:21,448 --> 01:11:24,993 Well, the men in Greenwood were World War I veterans, 1080 01:11:25,077 --> 01:11:26,745 and when they heard about the lynch mob, 1081 01:11:26,828 --> 01:11:29,414 they got their guns and they went down to the courthouse. 1082 01:11:29,498 --> 01:11:34,294 Not to break anybody out, but to keep the lynch mob out. 1083 01:11:38,799 --> 01:11:43,470 On June 1st, 1921, white people rented airplanes. 1084 01:11:43,554 --> 01:11:45,848 They got burning balls of turpentine, 1085 01:11:45,931 --> 01:11:49,893 and they dropped them on the businesses and homes in Greenwood. 1086 01:11:50,727 --> 01:11:54,523 And when Black people ran out of the burning buildings and homes, 1087 01:11:54,606 --> 01:11:58,861 they were shot dead by white people standing outside. 1088 01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:04,616 I get angry when I read about this 1089 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:07,286 referred to as "the Tulsa Riot." 1090 01:12:07,369 --> 01:12:11,206 This was not a riot. This was a massacre. 1091 01:12:22,509 --> 01:12:26,680 This was the cost of preventing a lynching. 1092 01:12:33,312 --> 01:12:36,231 I thought the world was coming to an end. 1093 01:12:37,232 --> 01:12:40,360 I felt, "Well, what in the world is going on?" 1094 01:12:40,444 --> 01:12:44,740 Being as young as I was, I didn't understand. 1095 01:12:44,823 --> 01:12:46,116 But it was quite a mess. 1096 01:12:46,992 --> 01:12:48,660 It was quite something. 1097 01:12:52,372 --> 01:12:56,126 Would you introduce yourself, please? Tell folks your name? 1098 01:12:57,044 --> 01:13:01,256 My name is Lessie Evelyn Randle. 1099 01:13:01,882 --> 01:13:05,010 It was Benningfield before I married, and... 1100 01:13:06,637 --> 01:13:09,640 I am 100 and...years old. 1101 01:13:21,068 --> 01:13:23,904 I remember, I don't know what you call them, rebels, 1102 01:13:23,987 --> 01:13:25,697 or what they were, came in, 1103 01:13:25,781 --> 01:13:28,408 and they just spared Grandmother's home, 1104 01:13:28,492 --> 01:13:30,118 they didn't burn her home. 1105 01:13:30,202 --> 01:13:33,580 But the homes all around us were burned, 1106 01:13:33,664 --> 01:13:39,253 and stores were just cleaned out... 1107 01:13:40,212 --> 01:13:43,006 and everything, but it was quite something. 1108 01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:45,717 I never want to see anything like that again. 1109 01:13:47,928 --> 01:13:54,852 I saw two or three being shot down as we were escaping. 1110 01:13:56,812 --> 01:14:02,568 At one time, we went in an area where they had killed so many, 1111 01:14:02,651 --> 01:14:08,657 just had them piled up in the street in a pile. 1112 01:14:09,283 --> 01:14:12,619 And I thought that was terrible. 1113 01:14:13,245 --> 01:14:16,039 I remember thinking that... 1114 01:14:16,123 --> 01:14:18,876 I said, "What are these people doing lying around like this?" 1115 01:14:18,959 --> 01:14:23,005 One of the people told me, "They're dead. They were killed." 1116 01:14:23,839 --> 01:14:25,174 I said, "Oh, my God." 1117 01:14:25,257 --> 01:14:28,677 That, of course, scared me, being a kid and everything, 1118 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,596 but it was quite something. 1119 01:14:38,979 --> 01:14:43,066 -So this is a city-owned cemetery? -Yes. 1120 01:14:43,150 --> 01:14:45,652 -The name of it is...? -Oaklawn Cemetery. 1121 01:14:46,361 --> 01:14:50,282 And it was a place where we have 1122 01:14:50,365 --> 01:14:52,618 very credible evidence, 1123 01:14:52,701 --> 01:14:55,579 eyewitness testimony that's been passed down, 1124 01:14:55,662 --> 01:14:56,788 that bodies were dumped. 1125 01:14:57,706 --> 01:15:01,877 And we've gotten documented stories from white citizens that live in Tulsa 1126 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,464 who had families here during the massacre and before. 1127 01:15:05,547 --> 01:15:07,758 'Cause one of the guys that I interviewed told me, 1128 01:15:07,841 --> 01:15:09,384 he said, "My father took me..." 1129 01:15:10,052 --> 01:15:12,888 You used to be able to walk up to the rail system. 1130 01:15:13,514 --> 01:15:18,185 He said they brought rail cars through here, flatbed rail cars, 1131 01:15:18,268 --> 01:15:20,145 and they just rolled bodies off. 1132 01:15:21,271 --> 01:15:24,316 But our contention was the bodies were dumped 1133 01:15:25,275 --> 01:15:27,653 all the way where the underpass is, 1134 01:15:27,736 --> 01:15:32,783 and they intentionally put the interstate on top of their bodies, 1135 01:15:32,866 --> 01:15:35,661 knowing that nobody would ever think... 1136 01:15:35,744 --> 01:15:37,788 -To look under the road. -To look under the road. 1137 01:15:40,332 --> 01:15:45,921 What is the most reasonable estimate of how many people died? 1138 01:15:46,004 --> 01:15:50,259 You're looking at 4000 people... 1139 01:15:50,926 --> 01:15:53,053 - Easy. -that you cannot account for. 1140 01:15:53,637 --> 01:15:56,014 -Yeah, I agree. -So it's a genocide. 1141 01:15:56,098 --> 01:15:57,933 It's an ethnic cleansing, you know? 1142 01:15:58,016 --> 01:16:01,103 Even to call it a massacre marginalises it, 1143 01:16:01,186 --> 01:16:03,981 because it's just too big. 1144 01:16:04,064 --> 01:16:05,941 It's too big of a story. 1145 01:16:08,235 --> 01:16:10,654 -You see the steps over to the left? -Yes. 1146 01:16:10,737 --> 01:16:14,032 We call those the Steps of No Return. 1147 01:16:15,492 --> 01:16:18,287 And why are they called the Steps of No Return? 1148 01:16:18,370 --> 01:16:20,622 'Cause the houses were never rebuilt. 1149 01:16:25,294 --> 01:16:26,712 Yeah, it's a powerful... 1150 01:16:28,714 --> 01:16:30,215 Powerful place to be. 1151 01:16:31,175 --> 01:16:33,093 And you look forward, you look at the city, 1152 01:16:33,177 --> 01:16:35,888 -and you just imagine what was. -And what could have been. 1153 01:16:35,971 --> 01:16:38,515 -Yeah. -If this hadn't been destroyed. 1154 01:16:40,017 --> 01:16:43,353 This city could've had an incredibly different destiny. 1155 01:16:43,437 --> 01:16:45,480 -Yeah. -Definitely. 1156 01:16:55,949 --> 01:16:58,911 I never wanna see anything like that again. 1157 01:16:59,536 --> 01:17:03,040 Of course, you never know what may happen again. You never know. 1158 01:17:03,457 --> 01:17:06,710 Because the way it's going now, from what I've seen... 1159 01:17:08,378 --> 01:17:11,048 I feel like anything could happen. 1160 01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:18,263 How is it possible that this could happen in America 1161 01:17:18,347 --> 01:17:23,060 and not be taught in history books up one side and down the other? 1162 01:17:26,647 --> 01:17:30,275 Do you know how many people were prosecuted for the Tulsa Massacre? 1163 01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:31,360 Zero. 1164 01:17:32,069 --> 01:17:37,824 Do you think law enforcement didn't know who rented an airplane on June 1st? 1165 01:17:37,908 --> 01:17:41,411 Do you think law enforcement couldn't tell from the pictures 1166 01:17:41,495 --> 01:17:44,915 who were walking around town with shotguns over their shoulders 1167 01:17:44,998 --> 01:17:48,085 to figure out who may have shot some of the Black people? 1168 01:17:48,168 --> 01:17:52,339 Do you really think law enforcement didn't know what happened? 1169 01:17:52,965 --> 01:17:56,635 The reason I have shown this, and shown the pictures of lynchings, 1170 01:17:56,718 --> 01:18:00,556 is that these kind of things could not happen 1171 01:18:00,639 --> 01:18:05,269 without law enforcement acquiescence or direct involvement. 1172 01:18:05,352 --> 01:18:08,939 You can't hang somebody from a tree in the middle of the city 1173 01:18:09,022 --> 01:18:11,400 and have the police not know about it. 1174 01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:19,366 The hand you see in that picture is the hand of Emmett Till's mother. 1175 01:18:19,908 --> 01:18:23,579 That woman is one of the bravest women in American history, 1176 01:18:23,662 --> 01:18:27,916 because she took her personal tragedy, 1177 01:18:28,458 --> 01:18:32,921 her incredibly personal tragedy, and she made a decision. 1178 01:18:33,005 --> 01:18:37,217 "I am going to make America look at who we are." 1179 01:18:37,301 --> 01:18:43,640 And in 1955, this next picture appeared in newspapers across America. 1180 01:18:44,808 --> 01:18:46,852 And I believe, personally, 1181 01:18:46,935 --> 01:18:49,938 that many white people across America woke up 1182 01:18:50,022 --> 01:18:51,982 and looked at this picture in the paper, 1183 01:18:52,065 --> 01:18:54,860 and said something to themselves like this: 1184 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,280 "I know those coloured people down there are causing a problem... 1185 01:18:59,448 --> 01:19:01,491 but I didn't sign up for this." 1186 01:19:12,127 --> 01:19:14,129 Everyone thinks that America 1187 01:19:14,213 --> 01:19:17,633 is still one of the most segregated countries in the world 1188 01:19:17,716 --> 01:19:22,554 because of social individual prejudice, and finances. 1189 01:19:22,638 --> 01:19:26,225 And I'm not saying that those two things don't have some relationship 1190 01:19:26,308 --> 01:19:28,393 to our segregated country. 1191 01:19:29,311 --> 01:19:32,731 What I am saying is, federal, state and local governments 1192 01:19:32,814 --> 01:19:35,776 deliberately sabotaged Black homeownership. 1193 01:19:35,859 --> 01:19:37,819 This wasn't a mistake. 1194 01:19:37,903 --> 01:19:42,407 This was the deliberate policy of the federal government. 1195 01:19:43,367 --> 01:19:46,411 The Federal Housing Authority drew redline maps 1196 01:19:46,495 --> 01:19:50,666 of every major city in America. 1197 01:19:50,749 --> 01:19:54,127 That's the redline map of Brooklyn, New York. 1198 01:19:56,129 --> 01:20:00,884 "A," or green ranking, meant the neighbourhood was homogeneous. 1199 01:20:00,968 --> 01:20:03,971 A "B," or blue ranking, meant it was still desirable 1200 01:20:04,054 --> 01:20:05,931 and expected to remain stable. 1201 01:20:06,014 --> 01:20:08,725 A "C" ranking meant it was declining, 1202 01:20:08,809 --> 01:20:12,563 beginning to be integrated, bordering on Black neighbourhoods. 1203 01:20:12,646 --> 01:20:18,610 And a "D" ranking was red, for redlining, any Black presence at all. 1204 01:20:19,862 --> 01:20:24,283 And this was the truth from sea to shining sea. 1205 01:20:25,576 --> 01:20:28,954 And then we reach 1954, with Brown v. The Board. 1206 01:20:29,538 --> 01:20:32,124 I will tell you, this had a major impact on my life, 1207 01:20:32,207 --> 01:20:34,585 in terms of school desegregation. 1208 01:20:36,044 --> 01:20:39,006 This is what Thurgood Marshall argued in the Supreme Court. 1209 01:20:39,631 --> 01:20:42,342 "Separate but equal was the inherent determination 1210 01:20:42,426 --> 01:20:46,930 that people who were formerly in slavery, regardless of anything else, 1211 01:20:47,014 --> 01:20:50,601 shall be kept as near that stage as is possible." 1212 01:20:50,684 --> 01:20:52,144 And doesn't that make sense? 1213 01:20:52,227 --> 01:20:55,314 What the heck is "separate but equal" except: 1214 01:20:55,397 --> 01:20:57,232 "You are not human enough. 1215 01:20:57,316 --> 01:21:00,611 Don't drink my water out of my water fountain, 1216 01:21:00,694 --> 01:21:06,074 don't use the bathroom and my toilet, don't go to school with my children." 1217 01:21:07,284 --> 01:21:13,040 Let's stroll and see if we can find our eighth grade graduation picture 1218 01:21:13,123 --> 01:21:16,752 and second grade First Communion picture. 1219 01:21:17,461 --> 01:21:18,670 It used to be down here. 1220 01:21:19,922 --> 01:21:23,467 I think the lights may come on as we walk. 1221 01:21:25,928 --> 01:21:27,513 -There we go. -There it is. 1222 01:21:28,263 --> 01:21:29,389 Here we go. 1223 01:21:29,848 --> 01:21:32,309 -Yeah. -1963. 1224 01:21:33,101 --> 01:21:36,063 -There's First Communion. -First Communion. 1225 01:21:36,146 --> 01:21:37,314 That's me. 1226 01:21:39,107 --> 01:21:41,193 -That's Opie right there. -That's right. 1227 01:21:41,276 --> 01:21:43,654 -That's my older brother, Herbert. -Yep. 1228 01:21:47,741 --> 01:21:51,370 My older brother, Herbert, and I were the first two Black kids 1229 01:21:51,453 --> 01:21:53,330 to come to school at St. Louis. 1230 01:21:53,413 --> 01:21:57,709 Opie, you and I met each other the summer before the second grade, 1231 01:21:57,793 --> 01:22:01,338 and that was the start of one of the best friendships 1232 01:22:01,421 --> 01:22:03,590 I've ever had in my life. 1233 01:22:04,633 --> 01:22:09,012 Well, as we were going to school here, 1234 01:22:09,096 --> 01:22:11,265 and different things were happening in the world, 1235 01:22:11,348 --> 01:22:14,601 I remember when King was assassinated, for example. 1236 01:22:15,352 --> 01:22:17,104 Op, what do you remember about that? 1237 01:22:17,187 --> 01:22:21,900 I remembered that... I think it was the first time I saw my father 1238 01:22:22,484 --> 01:22:25,153 be armed with a shotgun in our house 1239 01:22:25,237 --> 01:22:30,367 just because of the fear of civil unrest. 1240 01:22:32,077 --> 01:22:36,665 But we were still so young at that time 1241 01:22:36,748 --> 01:22:41,920 that we didn't have a true sense of what was really going on. 1242 01:22:42,004 --> 01:22:42,880 Yeah. 1243 01:22:42,963 --> 01:22:44,882 -We were just having fun. -Yeah. 1244 01:22:44,965 --> 01:22:50,554 And we would go places, and the only thing that really... 1245 01:22:50,637 --> 01:22:55,058 I think the first time that I felt any discomfort is, 1246 01:22:55,142 --> 01:22:56,602 and you might recall this, 1247 01:22:56,685 --> 01:23:00,856 we took the bus to the Crosstown Theater, 1248 01:23:00,939 --> 01:23:04,943 and the movie Patton had just come out, with George C. Scott. 1249 01:23:05,402 --> 01:23:07,070 And at the Crosstown... 1250 01:23:08,655 --> 01:23:11,325 we went and we had to sit in the balcony 1251 01:23:11,408 --> 01:23:17,206 because Jeffery wasn't allowed to sit in the main area. 1252 01:23:18,165 --> 01:23:22,294 I didn't think much of it because I wanted to sit in the balcony to start with. 1253 01:23:22,377 --> 01:23:23,545 It's pretty neat up there. 1254 01:23:23,629 --> 01:23:28,967 But it was the first time that I realised that there were differences 1255 01:23:29,051 --> 01:23:31,720 on how we were treated by others. 1256 01:23:31,803 --> 01:23:35,974 And I remember it was something that we kind of brushed off 1257 01:23:36,058 --> 01:23:40,979 in our childhood, but looking back on it, it's just sad. 1258 01:23:42,105 --> 01:23:44,107 One thing I remember more than anything else 1259 01:23:44,191 --> 01:23:47,027 about those days, where y'all were concerned, 1260 01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:49,863 and hopefully you don't even hardly remember this, 1261 01:23:49,947 --> 01:23:55,202 because I tried to take care of it in a very professional manner. 1262 01:23:56,495 --> 01:24:00,332 We went to Sacred Heart in Walls, to a basketball game, 1263 01:24:00,415 --> 01:24:05,462 and we were all getting out of the car, and we were walking into the gym. 1264 01:24:06,046 --> 01:24:09,716 And a man grabbed me by the arm, and said, "What are you doing?" 1265 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:10,926 And I said, "Pardon me?" 1266 01:24:11,009 --> 01:24:15,556 And he said, "We don't allow Blacks in the gym, or to play in the gym." 1267 01:24:15,639 --> 01:24:18,851 So this is Mississippi, which is right over the line. 1268 01:24:18,934 --> 01:24:20,602 And I said, "Well, that's fine." 1269 01:24:20,686 --> 01:24:23,939 And I remember turning to y'all, and I said, 1270 01:24:24,022 --> 01:24:26,024 "They've got a problem with the clock, 1271 01:24:26,108 --> 01:24:29,403 and with what's going on here, we all are out here. We're leaving." 1272 01:24:29,987 --> 01:24:34,992 And the parents of the team, they were fine with it. 1273 01:24:35,075 --> 01:24:36,702 I explained to a couple of them. 1274 01:24:36,785 --> 01:24:38,829 We were walking out the gym door, 1275 01:24:38,912 --> 01:24:43,417 and the pastor there at Sacred Heart was coming in. 1276 01:24:44,084 --> 01:24:46,503 He stopped me, and said, "Mr Orians, what are you doing?" 1277 01:24:46,587 --> 01:24:49,548 And I said, "Well, this is what happened when I went in the gym." 1278 01:24:49,631 --> 01:24:52,176 And he goes, "No, that ain't happening." 1279 01:24:53,969 --> 01:24:55,846 And he went back in that gym, 1280 01:24:55,929 --> 01:24:59,016 and he got the coaches and the parents together, 1281 01:24:59,099 --> 01:25:01,310 and we went back into the gym and we played. 1282 01:25:03,979 --> 01:25:05,439 I didn't know that. 1283 01:25:05,522 --> 01:25:06,607 I figured not. 1284 01:25:17,701 --> 01:25:21,246 What I remember about that tournament, 1285 01:25:21,330 --> 01:25:24,791 a kid on the other team, at one point, calling me a nigger. 1286 01:25:25,542 --> 01:25:27,503 And I remember there was a time out, 1287 01:25:27,586 --> 01:25:31,006 and my dad must have been near the bench, and I said to him, 1288 01:25:31,089 --> 01:25:33,175 "You know, this kid called me a nigger." 1289 01:25:33,634 --> 01:25:36,678 He looked me in the eye and he said, "What do you wanna do about it? 1290 01:25:36,762 --> 01:25:40,474 Do you wanna quit? Do you wanna cry? Or do you wanna keep playing?" 1291 01:25:40,933 --> 01:25:42,809 And I was like, "I wanna keep playing." 1292 01:25:42,893 --> 01:25:47,439 And he's like, "Then forget about it and keep playing," which is what I did. 1293 01:25:48,148 --> 01:25:51,652 But my memory of that was always just that 1294 01:25:51,735 --> 01:25:53,111 it was this kid... 1295 01:25:55,822 --> 01:25:57,366 who had interacted with me. 1296 01:25:58,367 --> 01:26:00,953 I definitely remember the trip to Walls, Mississippi, 1297 01:26:01,036 --> 01:26:04,873 because I remember that you could get a Coca-Cola for a nickel 1298 01:26:04,957 --> 01:26:05,958 in those machines, 1299 01:26:06,041 --> 01:26:10,379 and up here, it was like 10 or 15 cents, and I'm like, "Damn, this is great. 1300 01:26:10,462 --> 01:26:14,091 Maybe we wanna live here," and my father's like, "I don't think we do." 1301 01:26:14,883 --> 01:26:17,344 But it's one of the things 1302 01:26:17,427 --> 01:26:22,307 that you protected all of us from, 1303 01:26:22,766 --> 01:26:27,187 and I just wondered whether those things were still in your head. 1304 01:26:29,398 --> 01:26:31,817 I was thinking about this work that we're doing, 1305 01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:33,902 and thinking about coming back to Memphis, 1306 01:26:33,986 --> 01:26:38,198 that the relationships that I built here, 1307 01:26:38,657 --> 01:26:40,993 even though I haven't seen people in so long, 1308 01:26:41,076 --> 01:26:44,329 are some of the warmest things that I can ever remember. 1309 01:26:44,413 --> 01:26:50,169 And these kind of relationships are the things that are important in life. 1310 01:26:50,252 --> 01:26:52,838 And it is so good to see both of you. 1311 01:26:52,921 --> 01:26:57,551 And I just love the fact that we were able to grow up together. 1312 01:26:59,219 --> 01:27:01,638 Dick, I'm gonna give you back this ball. 1313 01:27:02,306 --> 01:27:04,850 The first integrated high school game in Memphis, 1314 01:27:04,933 --> 01:27:08,854 Catholic, 14, Father Bertrand, 7. 1315 01:27:08,937 --> 01:27:10,230 -There you go. -Yeah. 1316 01:27:10,314 --> 01:27:11,899 -Thank you both so much. -All right. 1317 01:27:11,982 --> 01:27:14,026 -Jeffery, man, good seeing you. -Absolutely. 1318 01:27:14,651 --> 01:27:16,570 -Dick, thank you, brother. -All right, buddy. 1319 01:27:20,949 --> 01:27:25,662 The promise of Brown, what a lie that's turned out to be. 1320 01:27:28,207 --> 01:27:32,669 American schools today are almost as segregated 1321 01:27:32,753 --> 01:27:35,255 as they were in the '50s. 1322 01:27:37,716 --> 01:27:43,263 This is the "victory" document from the Montgomery Bus Boycott. 1323 01:27:43,889 --> 01:27:46,642 The document that was circulated in the Black community 1324 01:27:46,725 --> 01:27:49,520 the night before the buses were gonna be integrated, 1325 01:27:49,603 --> 01:27:52,898 a bus boycott that lasted for more than a year, 1326 01:27:52,981 --> 01:27:56,401 where Black women were going into white homes, 1327 01:27:56,485 --> 01:27:58,445 being maids in those homes, 1328 01:27:58,529 --> 01:28:01,448 and they were getting up at 4 and 5:00 in the morning 1329 01:28:01,532 --> 01:28:03,158 to walk to those homes, 1330 01:28:03,242 --> 01:28:06,370 and then walk back to their homes in the Black neighbourhoods, 1331 01:28:06,453 --> 01:28:09,248 and get there maybe at 8:30, 9:00 at night, 1332 01:28:09,331 --> 01:28:12,042 try and feed their families, try and take care of their families, 1333 01:28:12,125 --> 01:28:16,421 and then get up the next day, and do it all over again for over a year. 1334 01:28:16,505 --> 01:28:20,217 And I get 15 minutes late to work, and I get pissed off. 1335 01:28:23,345 --> 01:28:25,639 This is the victory document. 1336 01:28:26,598 --> 01:28:30,894 "The bus driver is in charge of the bus, and has been instructed to obey the law. 1337 01:28:30,978 --> 01:28:35,357 Assume he will cooperate in helping you occupy any vacant seat. 1338 01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:39,862 Do not deliberately sit by a white person unless there is no other seat." 1339 01:28:39,945 --> 01:28:41,572 Where did this come from? 1340 01:28:41,655 --> 01:28:45,158 This is the difference that every Black person in America knows. 1341 01:28:45,242 --> 01:28:47,995 It's the slip between the law and living. 1342 01:28:48,579 --> 01:28:52,165 Yeah, the law says you can ride that bus and sit wherever you want, 1343 01:28:52,249 --> 01:28:54,960 but don't go getting yourself killed over it. 1344 01:28:56,086 --> 01:28:58,589 "In case of an incident, talk as little as possible, 1345 01:28:58,672 --> 01:29:01,675 and always in a quiet tone. Do not get up from your seat. 1346 01:29:01,758 --> 01:29:04,094 Report all incidents to the bus driver." 1347 01:29:04,178 --> 01:29:08,098 "Talk as little as possible, and always in a quiet tone." 1348 01:29:08,182 --> 01:29:10,392 Don't make white people uncomfortable, 1349 01:29:10,475 --> 01:29:13,770 because the cost of that could be your life. 1350 01:29:14,563 --> 01:29:18,525 "If another person is being molested, do not arise to go to his defence, 1351 01:29:18,609 --> 01:29:20,485 but pray for the oppressor... 1352 01:29:21,945 --> 01:29:26,450 and use moral and spiritual force to carry on the struggle for justice." 1353 01:29:26,533 --> 01:29:29,077 And I don't know what to say about that one, 1354 01:29:29,161 --> 01:29:33,749 and I definitely don't know what to say about this one. 1355 01:29:34,917 --> 01:29:38,879 "If you feel you cannot take it, walk for another week or two." 1356 01:29:40,422 --> 01:29:44,009 This is the difference between the law and living... 1357 01:29:44,968 --> 01:29:46,929 when you're Black in America. 1358 01:29:58,357 --> 01:30:01,527 When was the last time you were here in this temple? 1359 01:30:03,028 --> 01:30:04,238 Fifty years ago. 1360 01:30:06,281 --> 01:30:07,574 Larry's funeral. 1361 01:30:12,371 --> 01:30:16,834 I remember it was around 700 people here. 1362 01:30:16,917 --> 01:30:20,087 I mean, they was all outside, it was packed. 1363 01:30:21,421 --> 01:30:24,716 And Larry was in a white casket. 1364 01:30:29,012 --> 01:30:33,183 And my mother and father were standing at his casket. 1365 01:30:34,893 --> 01:30:36,979 And they was crying. 1366 01:30:46,780 --> 01:30:50,367 This is where the march started, at Clayborn Temple, 1367 01:30:50,450 --> 01:30:52,244 and they marched downtown. 1368 01:30:55,122 --> 01:30:56,915 Larry and... 1369 01:30:58,041 --> 01:31:01,670 some more of his classmates had left school, 1370 01:31:01,753 --> 01:31:05,716 because the school was urging everybody to go down there. 1371 01:31:06,425 --> 01:31:10,846 And so him and some of his friends had went down there. 1372 01:31:14,516 --> 01:31:19,188 What did your family hear about what actually happened to Larry? 1373 01:31:20,022 --> 01:31:21,690 It was-- Witnesses. 1374 01:31:21,773 --> 01:31:23,609 I mean, a lot of witnesses at that time, 1375 01:31:23,692 --> 01:31:28,405 and they said that the officer, Leslie Dean Jones, 1376 01:31:28,488 --> 01:31:30,490 he was running with a shotgun, 1377 01:31:30,574 --> 01:31:33,744 and Larry saw him running with the shotgun. 1378 01:31:33,827 --> 01:31:37,539 So he ran in what they call a boiler room, 1379 01:31:38,165 --> 01:31:40,167 and he ordered Larry to come out. 1380 01:31:41,210 --> 01:31:45,255 And Larry, he came out with his hands in the air 1381 01:31:45,339 --> 01:31:46,882 and said, "Don't shoot." 1382 01:31:49,343 --> 01:31:53,430 He put the shotgun in his stomach, and pulled the trigger... 1383 01:31:54,681 --> 01:31:56,517 at close range. 1384 01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:59,686 At close range. 1385 01:32:05,442 --> 01:32:07,736 My mother, she ran out the house, 1386 01:32:07,819 --> 01:32:09,321 she didn't have no shoes on, 1387 01:32:09,404 --> 01:32:12,616 and she reached to touch Larry, 1388 01:32:12,699 --> 01:32:15,744 and he put the barrel in her chest, and told her to "Get back, nigger." 1389 01:32:17,788 --> 01:32:19,831 And she said, "That's my son." 1390 01:32:23,710 --> 01:32:27,005 When I got home, my father, Mason Payne, 1391 01:32:27,089 --> 01:32:29,591 he was in the driveway, and he was crying. 1392 01:32:30,342 --> 01:32:32,427 And I said, "Dad, what's wrong?" 1393 01:32:32,511 --> 01:32:35,931 He said, "Larry gone. He won't be back. 1394 01:32:38,183 --> 01:32:39,351 He won't be back." 1395 01:32:43,939 --> 01:32:45,983 He was a young Black man... 1396 01:32:47,860 --> 01:32:49,570 in school and working. 1397 01:32:53,156 --> 01:32:55,242 He didn't have a chance to live his life. 1398 01:32:56,660 --> 01:32:59,913 Larry was murdered in cold blood for no reason at all. 1399 01:33:03,125 --> 01:33:05,627 Devastated. We were devastated. 1400 01:33:05,711 --> 01:33:08,338 I mean, still going through it. 1401 01:33:09,047 --> 01:33:10,591 Still going through it. 1402 01:33:12,217 --> 01:33:14,845 Larry's gone, but he will never be forgotten, 1403 01:33:15,387 --> 01:33:17,055 not by the Payne family. 1404 01:33:35,949 --> 01:33:40,204 But I must confess that that dream that I had that day 1405 01:33:40,287 --> 01:33:44,124 has, in many points, turned into a nightmare. 1406 01:33:44,208 --> 01:33:46,210 Now, I'm not one to lose hope. 1407 01:33:46,293 --> 01:33:48,545 I keep on hoping, 1408 01:33:48,629 --> 01:33:51,256 I still have faith in the future, 1409 01:33:51,340 --> 01:33:55,093 but I've had to analyse many things over the last few years, 1410 01:33:55,177 --> 01:33:57,596 and I would say, over the last few months, 1411 01:33:57,679 --> 01:34:01,517 I've gone through a lot of soul-searching and agonising moments, 1412 01:34:02,017 --> 01:34:07,189 and I've come to see that we have many more difficult days ahead, 1413 01:34:07,272 --> 01:34:11,485 and some of the old optimism was a little superficial, 1414 01:34:11,568 --> 01:34:14,571 and now it must be tempered with a solid realism. 1415 01:34:14,655 --> 01:34:20,202 And I think the realistic fact is that we still have a long, long way to go. 1416 01:34:20,285 --> 01:34:24,581 I think the biggest problem now is that we got our gains 1417 01:34:24,665 --> 01:34:28,043 over the last 12 years at bargain rates, so to speak. 1418 01:34:28,126 --> 01:34:29,878 It didn't cost the nation anything. 1419 01:34:29,962 --> 01:34:32,631 In fact, it helped the economic side of the nation 1420 01:34:32,714 --> 01:34:35,884 to integrate lunch counters and public accommodations. 1421 01:34:35,968 --> 01:34:41,557 It didn't cost the nation anything to get the right to vote established. 1422 01:34:42,057 --> 01:34:44,393 Now we are confronting issues 1423 01:34:44,935 --> 01:34:49,398 that cannot be solved without costing the nation billions of dollars. 1424 01:34:49,481 --> 01:34:52,693 Now, I think this is where we're getting our greatest resistance. 1425 01:34:52,776 --> 01:34:54,653 They may put it on many other things, 1426 01:34:54,736 --> 01:34:59,658 but we can't get rid of slums and poverty without it costing the nation something. 1427 01:35:00,409 --> 01:35:02,452 A lot of people who want change, 1428 01:35:02,536 --> 01:35:05,664 they just don't want the change to cost them anything, 1429 01:35:05,747 --> 01:35:10,085 or to require them to change anything about the way that they're living. 1430 01:35:13,338 --> 01:35:16,258 Fifty years ago, this report came out. 1431 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,386 It came out about three weeks before King was killed 1432 01:35:19,469 --> 01:35:21,597 in my hometown of Memphis. 1433 01:35:22,347 --> 01:35:26,810 And these are the things that it said, the basic conclusion of the Kerner Report: 1434 01:35:26,894 --> 01:35:29,062 "Our nation is moving toward two societies, 1435 01:35:29,146 --> 01:35:32,774 one Black, one white, separate, and unequal." 1436 01:35:32,858 --> 01:35:36,695 Folks, this is what they're saying 50 years ago. 1437 01:35:36,778 --> 01:35:39,489 "The deepening racial divide is not inevitable. 1438 01:35:39,573 --> 01:35:42,451 The movement apart can be reversed. 1439 01:35:42,534 --> 01:35:44,411 Choice is still possible. 1440 01:35:44,494 --> 01:35:47,080 Our principal task is to define that choice, 1441 01:35:47,164 --> 01:35:49,750 and press for a national resolution. 1442 01:35:50,584 --> 01:35:52,252 To pursue our present course 1443 01:35:52,336 --> 01:35:56,924 will involve the continuing polarisation of the American community 1444 01:35:57,007 --> 01:36:02,721 and ultimately the destruction of basic democratic values." 1445 01:36:03,305 --> 01:36:05,057 Does that sound familiar? 1446 01:36:07,476 --> 01:36:10,020 "What white America has never fully understood, 1447 01:36:10,103 --> 01:36:12,439 but what the Negro can never forget, 1448 01:36:12,523 --> 01:36:16,527 is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. 1449 01:36:16,610 --> 01:36:18,862 White institutions created it, 1450 01:36:18,946 --> 01:36:23,742 white institutions maintain, and white society condones it." 1451 01:36:24,243 --> 01:36:26,411 This is 50 years ago, 1452 01:36:27,037 --> 01:36:30,624 and three weeks later, that's what happened in my hometown. 1453 01:36:33,335 --> 01:36:38,423 King was killed on April 4th, 1968. 1454 01:36:39,383 --> 01:36:42,845 He was scheduled to give a speech in a Memphis church 1455 01:36:43,595 --> 01:36:47,099 that Sunday, April 7, 1968. 1456 01:36:47,683 --> 01:36:52,187 This is the title of the speech that was found among his papers 1457 01:36:52,271 --> 01:36:55,023 in the Lorraine Motel after he was killed. 1458 01:36:56,024 --> 01:36:58,402 I wonder what that speech would have been like. 1459 01:37:10,372 --> 01:37:16,712 So in 1968, the Fair Housing Act ended 34 years of legal redlining, 1460 01:37:17,254 --> 01:37:21,508 and what I wanna tell you for a few minutes now is about luck. 1461 01:37:22,593 --> 01:37:24,887 Because if you look at this picture, 1462 01:37:24,970 --> 01:37:29,558 the guy on your left with the little gangster lean 1463 01:37:29,641 --> 01:37:31,476 and the tilted hat, that's me. 1464 01:37:33,854 --> 01:37:37,482 The guy in the front with the hat looking down at my younger sister 1465 01:37:37,566 --> 01:37:40,319 is my younger brother, who's seated in the front audience. 1466 01:37:41,153 --> 01:37:43,989 And that's my father, my older brother, and my younger sister. 1467 01:37:44,072 --> 01:37:48,660 That's the house we lived in in Memphis, Tennessee, in 1962. 1468 01:37:48,744 --> 01:37:51,121 In an all-Black neighbourhood in Memphis. 1469 01:37:51,205 --> 01:37:53,999 And what happened in '68, after King was killed, 1470 01:37:54,082 --> 01:37:57,336 is that there was a developer who was essentially buying 1471 01:37:57,419 --> 01:37:59,004 all the houses in our neighbourhood. 1472 01:37:59,838 --> 01:38:02,174 Well, my dad wouldn't sell our house. 1473 01:38:02,883 --> 01:38:05,552 My dad and my mother were converted Catholics, 1474 01:38:05,636 --> 01:38:07,679 and they wanted their kids in Catholic school, 1475 01:38:07,763 --> 01:38:10,015 and that meant schools in East Memphis, 1476 01:38:10,098 --> 01:38:12,518 and that meant living in a white neighbourhood. 1477 01:38:12,601 --> 01:38:14,811 So my dad made a deal with the developer. 1478 01:38:14,895 --> 01:38:17,606 "You buy me a house, and I'll give you my house." 1479 01:38:17,689 --> 01:38:18,941 We went looking at houses. 1480 01:38:19,024 --> 01:38:22,236 Every time we would look at a house, we would offer the asking price, 1481 01:38:22,319 --> 01:38:24,530 and the house would get sold by somebody else, 1482 01:38:24,613 --> 01:38:25,864 or "Another agent sold it," 1483 01:38:25,948 --> 01:38:28,325 or "We lost the contract when we went fishing 1484 01:38:28,408 --> 01:38:31,453 and it fell out of the boat," and all these excuses. 1485 01:38:32,287 --> 01:38:34,748 This is the house that we ended up living in. 1486 01:38:35,332 --> 01:38:38,293 Four bedrooms, two and a half bathrooms, 1487 01:38:38,377 --> 01:38:41,964 a quiet place for me and my brothers and sisters to study, 1488 01:38:42,047 --> 01:38:43,549 a good school district, 1489 01:38:43,632 --> 01:38:48,887 all the things that Americans say you need in order to be successful. 1490 01:38:50,097 --> 01:38:53,517 We went to look at this house and offered the asking price, 1491 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,520 and we had white friends of ours go about a half an hour later, 1492 01:38:56,603 --> 01:38:59,356 and they offered less money, and they sold it to them, 1493 01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,191 but they were buying it for us. 1494 01:39:08,782 --> 01:39:10,909 -This does bring back a lot of memories. -Yeah. 1495 01:39:10,993 --> 01:39:14,746 -And it looks about the same as it was. -It really does. 1496 01:39:14,830 --> 01:39:19,042 Maybe a little paint, but this is pretty much how I remember it. 1497 01:39:19,793 --> 01:39:25,132 We moved into this house after Dr King was killed in 1969. 1498 01:39:25,215 --> 01:39:30,596 And your family played a role that I never quite understood 1499 01:39:30,679 --> 01:39:33,432 until you and I have just recently talked. 1500 01:39:33,515 --> 01:39:38,103 -Could you tell us about that? -My mother-in-law was a realtor. 1501 01:39:38,187 --> 01:39:42,858 She was a 64-year-old Jewish woman who had been born and raised in Memphis. 1502 01:39:42,941 --> 01:39:46,820 And so she agreed to be your parents' realtor, 1503 01:39:46,904 --> 01:39:49,198 and she would show them houses, 1504 01:39:49,281 --> 01:39:51,491 and when they came and saw this house, 1505 01:39:51,575 --> 01:39:52,951 it was a brand-new house. 1506 01:39:53,035 --> 01:39:55,329 The real estate agent came to the door, 1507 01:39:55,412 --> 01:39:58,790 and at first, I think she thought my mother-in-law was the customer. 1508 01:39:58,874 --> 01:40:00,375 My mother-in-law gave her her card, 1509 01:40:00,459 --> 01:40:02,711 and when she realised it, she said something, 1510 01:40:02,794 --> 01:40:04,880 and slammed the door in their face. 1511 01:40:05,631 --> 01:40:07,841 So by that time, they'd seen so many houses, 1512 01:40:07,925 --> 01:40:10,552 they just said, "We've got to find another way." 1513 01:40:10,636 --> 01:40:14,264 So then their friends, Web and Pat Smith, 1514 01:40:14,348 --> 01:40:17,142 were the ones who bought the house, 1515 01:40:17,226 --> 01:40:20,020 and when they came and the realtor saw them, 1516 01:40:20,103 --> 01:40:22,189 she was very excited and happy. 1517 01:40:22,272 --> 01:40:26,360 And so then they bought the house, and transferred it to your parents. 1518 01:40:27,736 --> 01:40:33,784 And what I remember is you and Andy, and my parents... 1519 01:40:33,867 --> 01:40:37,371 I have this memory of you guys laughing in our living room, 1520 01:40:37,454 --> 01:40:39,790 and I knew it had something to do with a house, 1521 01:40:39,873 --> 01:40:43,794 and I knew you and Andy had helped us to get this house 1522 01:40:43,877 --> 01:40:47,464 and we couldn't talk about it until we moved in 1523 01:40:47,548 --> 01:40:49,508 because my parents were concerned 1524 01:40:49,591 --> 01:40:51,677 that somebody would do something to the house, 1525 01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,720 if they knew we were moving in. 1526 01:40:54,221 --> 01:40:55,514 But then after you moved in, 1527 01:40:55,597 --> 01:40:58,433 did you have much difficulty in the neighbourhood? 1528 01:40:58,934 --> 01:41:02,479 I remember the first week that we moved in, 1529 01:41:02,563 --> 01:41:05,315 my daddy sat on the carport right here, 1530 01:41:05,399 --> 01:41:10,153 under the carport, in a lawn chair with a shotgun across his lap. 1531 01:41:10,237 --> 01:41:13,282 And he would sit there until early in the morning 1532 01:41:13,365 --> 01:41:16,493 because he was gonna be ready if somebody came to the house. 1533 01:41:16,577 --> 01:41:17,661 I didn't realise that. 1534 01:41:17,744 --> 01:41:20,581 I remember it took a while for people to get used to us living here. 1535 01:41:20,664 --> 01:41:24,293 The woman that lived right here came over, 1536 01:41:24,376 --> 01:41:26,795 the day we moved in, to the front door, 1537 01:41:26,879 --> 01:41:30,299 and she had a plate of chocolate chip cookies. 1538 01:41:30,757 --> 01:41:32,759 And I am addicted to chocolate chip cookies, 1539 01:41:32,843 --> 01:41:34,761 and I have been ever since I was a kid. 1540 01:41:34,845 --> 01:41:38,098 And she knocked on the door, and my mom opened the door, 1541 01:41:38,182 --> 01:41:41,435 and I had run behind my mom, just to see who it was. 1542 01:41:41,518 --> 01:41:44,605 And she said, "May I speak to the lady of the house?" 1543 01:41:44,688 --> 01:41:46,899 And my mother said, "You're looking at her." 1544 01:41:46,982 --> 01:41:50,360 And she just spun, and walked back to the house. 1545 01:41:50,444 --> 01:41:54,448 -Taking the cookies with her. -I was like, "Could I have one cookie?" 1546 01:42:09,838 --> 01:42:14,468 And so that was me and Herbert's room. That was Teresa and Michelle. 1547 01:42:14,551 --> 01:42:16,261 And was that your room or the bathroom? 1548 01:42:16,345 --> 01:42:19,389 -That's the bathroom, then my window... -Your window faces that way. 1549 01:42:21,892 --> 01:42:25,062 The yard looks even a little bigger than I remember. 1550 01:42:25,145 --> 01:42:27,397 I just remember it being huge... 1551 01:42:28,565 --> 01:42:32,194 and having to use those clippers along the edges of the fence 1552 01:42:32,277 --> 01:42:37,157 to cut that grass that he never could stand. 1553 01:42:37,241 --> 01:42:40,077 With all the shit we were taking about moving in here, 1554 01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,580 he's like, you know, "My yard will be the best yard." 1555 01:42:43,664 --> 01:42:45,123 -The showplace. -Yeah. 1556 01:42:52,589 --> 01:42:57,636 There's a cemetery right across the street, and I remember... 1557 01:42:59,555 --> 01:43:03,100 Soon after we moved in, I was over there one night. 1558 01:43:03,183 --> 01:43:06,019 I'd just come out of the house, I don't know what I was doing, 1559 01:43:06,103 --> 01:43:10,774 but I was sitting on the wall, and a police car pulled up. 1560 01:43:10,858 --> 01:43:14,194 And the officers got out and asked me who I was, 1561 01:43:14,278 --> 01:43:16,989 and they patted me down, and they said, "Where do you live?" 1562 01:43:17,072 --> 01:43:19,950 I said, "I live right across the street. I'm just hanging out here." 1563 01:43:20,033 --> 01:43:21,493 They said, "You don't live there." 1564 01:43:21,577 --> 01:43:24,204 And they brought me over here, and of course, 1565 01:43:24,288 --> 01:43:26,081 Mommy answered the door, and they're like, 1566 01:43:26,164 --> 01:43:28,959 "Just wanted to bring your son home, make sure he was safe." 1567 01:43:29,042 --> 01:43:32,838 I'm like, "No. They were saying I didn't live here. Didn't believe me." 1568 01:43:33,797 --> 01:43:35,924 And then I remember Mommy and Daddy always saying, 1569 01:43:36,008 --> 01:43:37,509 "Well, we don't have to move far. 1570 01:43:37,593 --> 01:43:40,179 We're just going right across the street." 1571 01:43:40,262 --> 01:43:43,182 So the cemetery across the street is where they're both buried. 1572 01:43:53,192 --> 01:43:55,360 Shortly before my dad died, 1573 01:43:55,444 --> 01:44:01,700 he was asking whether he and my mom made the right decision, 1574 01:44:01,783 --> 01:44:06,538 saying, "I know it was hard on you and your brothers and sisters, 1575 01:44:06,622 --> 01:44:08,832 and living in that neighbourhood had its challenges, 1576 01:44:08,916 --> 01:44:11,335 and maybe it wasn't the right decision." 1577 01:44:11,418 --> 01:44:16,381 And I don't know what would have happened to my brothers 1578 01:44:17,132 --> 01:44:22,554 or my sisters or me if we hadn't come here. 1579 01:44:24,765 --> 01:44:28,977 This is part of what made me who I am. 1580 01:44:35,234 --> 01:44:38,111 This is what luck looks like. 1581 01:44:39,321 --> 01:44:43,116 I have worked as hard as anybody in this theatre 1582 01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:47,538 to get where I am today, and I am proud of that. 1583 01:44:47,621 --> 01:44:49,581 But I am lucky. 1584 01:44:50,249 --> 01:44:53,585 I was not the smartest kid in my neighbourhood, 1585 01:44:54,461 --> 01:44:58,674 and that ball that we saw rolling back when King got shot, 1586 01:44:58,757 --> 01:45:01,426 the only reason I didn't get crushed by that ball 1587 01:45:01,510 --> 01:45:04,388 is that I had unicorns for parents, 1588 01:45:04,471 --> 01:45:08,517 who figured out some way to get their kids into a situation 1589 01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:10,602 where they had a better chance to succeed. 1590 01:45:10,686 --> 01:45:13,021 And if that's what it takes 1591 01:45:13,105 --> 01:45:15,774 to have a legitimate chance at success, 1592 01:45:15,858 --> 01:45:19,903 having unicorns for parents, or just having dumb luck... 1593 01:45:21,154 --> 01:45:24,074 Is that really a country that you want to live in? 1594 01:45:25,033 --> 01:45:27,035 And so when you hear words, 1595 01:45:27,119 --> 01:45:31,081 when you hear the concept expressed of "white privilege," 1596 01:45:31,164 --> 01:45:35,752 I am begging you to think about that in a different way. 1597 01:45:35,836 --> 01:45:39,047 White privilege doesn't mean that you haven't worked hard. 1598 01:45:39,131 --> 01:45:42,134 It doesn't mean that you haven't overcome obstacles. 1599 01:45:42,217 --> 01:45:45,053 It means that you walk through the world differently 1600 01:45:45,137 --> 01:45:48,223 than the Black and brown people in this country. 1601 01:45:48,307 --> 01:45:53,103 It does not take away from your hard work or your accomplishments at all. 1602 01:45:53,187 --> 01:45:57,232 It simply says this playing field is not level. 1603 01:45:59,234 --> 01:46:02,988 And that's because racism is more than just prejudice. 1604 01:46:03,071 --> 01:46:07,910 It is prejudice plus social power, plus legal authority. 1605 01:46:07,993 --> 01:46:12,539 And Black and brown people have never had the last two in America. 1606 01:46:12,623 --> 01:46:15,959 Not when we were brought here as enslaved people, 1607 01:46:16,043 --> 01:46:18,253 not during the Civil Rights Movement, 1608 01:46:18,337 --> 01:46:21,673 and not while Barack Obama was in the White House. 1609 01:46:24,927 --> 01:46:27,012 So, what did our prison population look like 1610 01:46:27,095 --> 01:46:29,389 as we entered the Nixon years? 1611 01:46:29,473 --> 01:46:33,310 Looked like about that, just under 400,000 people. 1612 01:46:34,728 --> 01:46:38,607 Here's what John Ehrlichman had to say about Nixon's strategy. 1613 01:46:39,900 --> 01:46:41,443 "We knew we couldn't make it illegal 1614 01:46:41,527 --> 01:46:44,321 to be either against the war or Black, 1615 01:46:44,404 --> 01:46:47,616 but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana, 1616 01:46:47,699 --> 01:46:51,203 and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalising both heavily, 1617 01:46:51,286 --> 01:46:52,955 we could disrupt those communities. 1618 01:46:53,038 --> 01:46:55,499 We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, 1619 01:46:55,582 --> 01:46:56,625 break up their meetings, 1620 01:46:56,708 --> 01:47:00,337 and vilify them night after night on the evening news. 1621 01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:04,800 Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." 1622 01:47:04,883 --> 01:47:08,095 And when we hear, today, America say, 1623 01:47:08,178 --> 01:47:12,641 "My God, the opioid epidemic, it's taking our children. 1624 01:47:12,724 --> 01:47:15,185 This is horrible. It's a medical issue. 1625 01:47:15,269 --> 01:47:18,355 We can't treat our children as enemies in a war. 1626 01:47:18,438 --> 01:47:20,232 We have to help our children." 1627 01:47:20,315 --> 01:47:23,819 I'm not trying to be facetious or to say that's not right. 1628 01:47:23,902 --> 01:47:25,153 Of course it's right. 1629 01:47:25,237 --> 01:47:27,531 But where was that sentiment when crack cocaine 1630 01:47:27,614 --> 01:47:29,867 was destroying Black communities? 1631 01:47:33,912 --> 01:47:37,708 This is Bill Clinton signing the 1994 Crime Bill, 1632 01:47:38,250 --> 01:47:41,587 a bill that did more damage to racial justice 1633 01:47:41,670 --> 01:47:43,130 in the criminal legal system 1634 01:47:43,213 --> 01:47:46,175 than any bill that I can remember in a long time. 1635 01:47:46,258 --> 01:47:49,303 This is not about Democrat or Republican. 1636 01:47:49,386 --> 01:47:51,638 This is about America. 1637 01:47:51,722 --> 01:47:54,474 Bill Clinton is saying, "When I sign this Crime Bill, 1638 01:47:54,558 --> 01:47:56,643 we together are taking a big step 1639 01:47:56,727 --> 01:47:59,354 toward bringing the laws of our land 1640 01:47:59,438 --> 01:48:02,191 back into line with the values of our people." 1641 01:48:02,274 --> 01:48:04,359 And he was speaking the truth, 1642 01:48:04,443 --> 01:48:07,321 because the values that America has expressed 1643 01:48:07,404 --> 01:48:08,739 up to that point, 1644 01:48:08,822 --> 01:48:10,824 and with what that law did, 1645 01:48:10,908 --> 01:48:14,620 they were the values of mass incarceration and white supremacy. 1646 01:48:18,207 --> 01:48:19,249 So, what happened? 1647 01:48:20,417 --> 01:48:21,877 That's what happened. 1648 01:48:24,046 --> 01:48:25,547 And it wasn't an accident. 1649 01:48:31,428 --> 01:48:32,638 And so here... 1650 01:48:33,555 --> 01:48:38,644 are pictures of what I refer to as "snuff films," 1651 01:48:38,727 --> 01:48:42,397 things that we have now gotten used to seeing in America. 1652 01:48:42,481 --> 01:48:44,983 The killings of Black and brown men and women. 1653 01:48:53,909 --> 01:48:56,328 The ten cities with the largest police departments 1654 01:48:56,411 --> 01:49:02,417 collectively paid out $1.02 billion 1655 01:49:02,501 --> 01:49:06,630 between 2010 and 2015 in police misconduct cases, 1656 01:49:06,713 --> 01:49:08,799 which include alleged beatings, 1657 01:49:08,882 --> 01:49:11,176 shootings, and wrongful imprisonments. 1658 01:49:11,260 --> 01:49:17,099 You can't pay a billion dollars for police misconduct, 1659 01:49:17,182 --> 01:49:19,142 and not have criminal activity. 1660 01:49:22,729 --> 01:49:27,276 So we now know that to some Americans, Black Lives Matter is a hate group. 1661 01:49:29,695 --> 01:49:32,072 And what I would encourage you to think about... 1662 01:49:34,283 --> 01:49:39,872 is that the things that they're saying about Black Lives Matter activists today 1663 01:49:39,955 --> 01:49:41,874 are the exact same things they were saying 1664 01:49:41,957 --> 01:49:44,418 about Martin Luther King in the '60s. 1665 01:49:48,922 --> 01:49:55,304 Martin Luther King was arrested 30 times in 12 years. 1666 01:49:56,180 --> 01:49:59,308 We have a word for that. It's called "thug." 1667 01:50:00,142 --> 01:50:03,770 That's what we refer to activists today as, in America, 1668 01:50:03,854 --> 01:50:06,064 because they're in our face. 1669 01:50:06,148 --> 01:50:08,984 They're making us look at things we don't want to look at. 1670 01:50:09,067 --> 01:50:11,987 They're interrupting our football games. 1671 01:50:14,114 --> 01:50:18,911 We've gotta give ourselves to this struggle until the end. 1672 01:50:18,994 --> 01:50:22,831 Nothing would be more tragic than to stop, 1673 01:50:22,915 --> 01:50:25,709 at this point in Memphis. 1674 01:50:25,792 --> 01:50:27,461 We've gotta see it through. 1675 01:50:29,087 --> 01:50:30,339 America was at the point 1676 01:50:30,422 --> 01:50:33,008 where we were going to move from who we were 1677 01:50:33,091 --> 01:50:36,345 to who we could be, and who we always wanted to be. 1678 01:50:36,887 --> 01:50:40,474 And I remember thinking as a kid, "Well, who's going to lead us now?" 1679 01:50:41,308 --> 01:50:44,645 The leader that was going to make this movement go somewhere 1680 01:50:44,728 --> 01:50:46,271 had been taken away, 1681 01:50:46,355 --> 01:50:50,734 and I think that's a lesson to be learned about this work, 1682 01:50:50,817 --> 01:50:54,780 and a lesson that the women who established Black Lives Matter 1683 01:50:54,863 --> 01:50:56,365 have learned clearly: 1684 01:50:56,448 --> 01:51:00,202 You can't kill one person and stop the Black Lives Matter movement. 1685 01:51:00,285 --> 01:51:03,497 And the three women that set it up that way did it on purpose, 1686 01:51:03,580 --> 01:51:08,085 so that there would be leaders in small communities all around America. 1687 01:51:09,461 --> 01:51:11,755 -Say his name! -George Floyd. 1688 01:51:12,297 --> 01:51:14,716 -No justice. -No peace. 1689 01:51:15,259 --> 01:51:19,263 You are seeing Black people, brown people, white people, 1690 01:51:19,346 --> 01:51:23,058 people from every race in this country, 1691 01:51:23,141 --> 01:51:25,686 demonstrating together. 1692 01:51:25,769 --> 01:51:28,981 That has never happened before 1693 01:51:29,064 --> 01:51:31,567 on the scale that it's happening right now. 1694 01:51:31,650 --> 01:51:33,485 -Say her name! -Breonna Taylor! 1695 01:51:33,569 --> 01:51:39,032 The possibility of radical change is in the air. 1696 01:51:39,700 --> 01:51:41,368 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 1697 01:51:41,451 --> 01:51:42,828 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 1698 01:51:42,911 --> 01:51:46,957 I want to tell you why you were invited here tonight, 1699 01:51:47,749 --> 01:51:50,210 and it really comes down to this: 1700 01:51:50,294 --> 01:51:53,046 50 years from now, somebody, 1701 01:51:53,130 --> 01:51:55,424 maybe in an auditorium like this, 1702 01:51:55,507 --> 01:51:57,718 is going to be talking to a group of people 1703 01:51:57,801 --> 01:52:01,054 about what happened in this generation. 1704 01:52:01,138 --> 01:52:05,726 Did we turn up the volume on our videos and our TV 1705 01:52:05,809 --> 01:52:10,230 and just let that ball roll back, like we have every single time 1706 01:52:10,314 --> 01:52:12,524 we've come to a tipping point? 1707 01:52:12,608 --> 01:52:16,653 Or did this generation decide to do something different? 1708 01:52:16,737 --> 01:52:20,073 And I hope and expect that each one of you 1709 01:52:20,157 --> 01:52:24,286 will be out there with me pushing that ball to a new direction. 1710 01:52:24,369 --> 01:52:26,538 Thank you very much and good night. 1711 01:53:35,315 --> 01:53:41,780 Well, I woke up this morning with my mind 1712 01:53:42,364 --> 01:53:48,328 Stayed on freedom 1713 01:53:48,954 --> 01:53:54,168 Woke up this morning with my mind 1714 01:53:54,793 --> 01:54:00,424 Stayed on freedom 1715 01:54:01,091 --> 01:54:06,847 Woke up this morning with my mind 1716 01:54:06,930 --> 01:54:11,977 Stayed on freedom 1717 01:54:12,060 --> 01:54:14,771 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1718 01:54:14,855 --> 01:54:17,482 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1719 01:54:17,566 --> 01:54:24,406 Hallelujah 1720 01:54:24,948 --> 01:54:27,117 Well, I'm walkin' and talkin' 1721 01:54:27,201 --> 01:54:32,623 With my mind stayed on freedom 1722 01:54:32,706 --> 01:54:35,667 Oh, yes, I'm walkin' and talkin' With my mind 1723 01:54:35,751 --> 01:54:40,297 You know that it's stayed on freedom 1724 01:54:40,380 --> 01:54:43,342 I said, I'm walkin' and talkin' With my mind 1725 01:54:43,425 --> 01:54:47,721 You know that it's stayed on freedom 1726 01:54:47,804 --> 01:54:49,806 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1727 01:54:49,890 --> 01:54:51,725 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1728 01:54:51,808 --> 01:54:55,562 Hallelujah 1729 01:54:55,646 --> 01:54:59,233 Oh, well, ain't no harm with your mind 1730 01:54:59,316 --> 01:55:03,278 Come on, now! Stayed on freedom 1731 01:55:03,362 --> 01:55:06,073 Oh, no, there ain't no harm with your mind 1732 01:55:06,156 --> 01:55:09,368 You know it! Stayed on freedom 1733 01:55:09,451 --> 01:55:11,328 You can sing along, now 1734 01:55:11,411 --> 01:55:13,705 Ain't no harm with your mind 1735 01:55:13,789 --> 01:55:18,168 You know it! Stayed on freedom 1736 01:55:18,252 --> 01:55:20,003 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1737 01:55:20,087 --> 01:55:21,964 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1738 01:55:22,047 --> 01:55:24,675 Hallelujah 1739 01:55:24,758 --> 01:55:26,385 Come on and walk, now 1740 01:55:26,468 --> 01:55:29,346 Walk, walk, you better walk, walk 1741 01:55:29,429 --> 01:55:33,725 Come on and walk Walk with your mind on freedom! 1742 01:55:33,809 --> 01:55:34,977 Walk, walk 1743 01:55:35,060 --> 01:55:36,687 Come on, now Walk, walk 1744 01:55:36,770 --> 01:55:41,149 You better walk, walk With your mind on freedom! 1745 01:55:41,233 --> 01:55:44,278 Oh, oh, oh 1746 01:55:44,361 --> 01:55:46,238 You better walk 1747 01:55:46,321 --> 01:55:48,156 Come on and walk 1748 01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:52,369 While I'm singing and shoutin' With my mind, yeah 1749 01:55:52,452 --> 01:55:56,248 Stayed on freedom! Are you stayed on freedom? 1750 01:55:56,331 --> 01:55:59,835 Singing and shoutin' with my mind, yeah 1751 01:55:59,918 --> 01:56:02,713 Stayed on freedom 1752 01:56:02,796 --> 01:56:05,924 You know, you're singing and shoutin' With my mind 1753 01:56:06,008 --> 01:56:10,304 You know that! Stayed on freedom 1754 01:56:10,387 --> 01:56:12,014 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1755 01:56:12,097 --> 01:56:13,849 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1756 01:56:13,932 --> 01:56:16,351 Hallelujah 1757 01:56:16,435 --> 01:56:17,352 Come on and sing! 1758 01:56:17,436 --> 01:56:19,354 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1759 01:56:19,438 --> 01:56:21,231 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1760 01:56:21,315 --> 01:56:23,775 Hallelujah 1761 01:56:23,859 --> 01:56:24,860 One more time! 1762 01:56:24,943 --> 01:56:26,695 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1763 01:56:26,778 --> 01:56:28,697 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1764 01:56:28,780 --> 01:56:35,787 Hallelujah 152949

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