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- Looking up in the sky,
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and it was three white lines, vertical.
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There was one that always stayed away from it.
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- I don't know what I saw.
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- Blip in the sky, streak of light.
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- Dark, hovering object above a bridge
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that we were coming back from, and it almost looked like a-
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- This weird, kind of amorphous, opalescent kind of thing.
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- An unidentified object, it was coming in very fast.
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- It was staying perfectly still and stationary in the sky
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for about four to five minutes, until it started to move.
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- And it was so distraughtful, and it was really wicked.
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To this day, I don't know what it is.
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- Made a hard right turn, went up like 90 degrees.
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They figured that it was traveling
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at something like 800 miles an hour.
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- And then they changed formation.
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At first, it was vertical, then it went lateral,
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and then they changed to like a rectangle shape.
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But that one always stayed away from the others.
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(cool music)
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- I started out at a very young age,
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witnessing anomalous events, such as UFOs.
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And that's what got me interested in a field of ufology.
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I became a researcher and a speaker.
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Throughout the years, I have come a cross hundreds
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of people from all walks of life, from all around the world,
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who also have had similar experiences, witnessing UFOs.
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And so this phenomenon is not new.
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It's very old, and very widespread.
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Yet, this entire subject has been lacking credibility
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and acceptance from society,
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but also from the establishment.
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And it wasn't until 2017 when "The New York Times" came out
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with an article featuring three leaked videos
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from the US Navy that totally defied explanation,
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that the conversation began to shift.
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- [Pilot] (yells) Got it, (laughing) woo hoo!
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- [Radio] Roger there's something shooting-
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- [Pilot] We're going against the wind.
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The wind's 120 miles to the west.
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Well, if there's- - Look at this thing.
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- It's rotating.
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There's a whole fleet of them, look on (indistinct)
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My gosh!
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- On USS Princeton, I was responsible
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for classified material, top secret data recording.
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In November in 2004, we were doing workups
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in preparation for our next deployment.
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- I was on the USS Princeton,
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I was the leading operation specialist,
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and basically we'd control the radars,
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we'd man the radars,
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we'd fight the ship if we ever go to combat.
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My primary job was to identify everything
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that flew in the sky.
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On November 10th, I started to notice
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some really strange contacts off the coast of Catalina.
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- During those workups,
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we tracked unknown aircraft for several days.
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- This is the contacts, we're at 28,000 feet going South
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about 100 knots, and I'm thinking to myself,
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"I never seen anything fly like that."
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And I had 15 and a half years actual sea time,
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sitting behind that radar.
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At one point it was raining UFOs.
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But I'd never seen anything fly like this,
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and all the other ships are tracking it too.
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Fast Eagle flight happened to be airborne,
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Commander Fravor, the first one to launch off
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the Nimitz aircraft carrier.
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These objects fell out (vocalizing).
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These things went straight back up to 28,000 feet again
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in less than a second, and then at the very end,
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it was right in front of him.
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(object zooming)
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Disappeared.
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- They exhibited flight capabilities that were well beyond
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anything that I'd ever seen before.
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So I'm pretty familiar with just
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about the fastest things in the sky, and these things
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kinda made them look like they're toys.
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- Because these videos were taken by military servicemen,
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the Navy and the Pentagon eventually confirmed
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the veracity of these sightings.
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Senator Reid, Senator Rubio, and others prompted Congress
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to investigate these events,
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and publish an official report on these findings.
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Even though multiple credible cases were investigated,
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the UAP report, "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena"
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turned out to inconclusive, which unfortunately,
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did not surprise many of us in the UFO community.
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- When you don't know what it is,
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of course nothing can be conclusively ruled out.
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- Can they come up with any explanation?
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- Really just a fraction of evidence
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the government has on UFOs.
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- What does the US government know about UFOs?
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- Had that bombshell not come out in "The New York Times",
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and "Politico," and CNN, we wouldn't be where we are today.
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The Pentagon has not been forthcoming at all.
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They have been a huge pain in the ass
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regarding this topic, massively.
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And what's really needed with this topic,
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real evidence, real data.
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However long it takes, that's the stuff
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that becomes fool proof.
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- The next morning I get up, I say, "What the heck?
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I'm gonna write a very detailed message
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about what happened."
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I went back up to combat information center, CIC,
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and one of the lead technicians, he looks at me and says,
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"Senior Chief, the data isn't on the ship anymore."
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I said, "What are you talking about?"
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He said, "Somebody came on board our ship,
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and they took our data.
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In fact, they made us erase everything down
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in the computer room."
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Even blank tapes had gotten erased.
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- We had our data recording for all
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of our equipment taken off the ship.
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And on top of that we were ordered
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to erase everything that was left in the shop.
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- And for them to take it, it was highly unusual.
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I raised my hand, I said,
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"I think we got a safety issue here."
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And I would try to describe what happened,
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and I got laughed at.
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I got ridiculed, there was jokes posted,
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there was cartoons posted about me,
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and I got so frustrated (clears throat)
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it ended my career. (sniffs)
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- Some of my shipmates lost careers, lost wives,
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lost the ability to be able to see their children.
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These are all the consequences of these events
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that happened that we were told to not talk about.
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- And it was really scary, it was really lonely.
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And at one point I ended up,
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I didn't know what I was gonna do.
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I'd gone through all this pain and suffering, if you will.
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- It is unimaginable to think that a UFO encounter
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could affect these guys to such a point
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that they would lose their careers.
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They would lose their personal and social life.
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Now I feel even more determined
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to help find some answers about their experience.
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I feel after all these years,
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if the government is not officially at a point
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where they can offer real answers
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to these very widespread sightings,
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well, maybe it is up to us to look into the subject.
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But from a new scientific perspective,
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because that has never been done.
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I decided to take on this challenge.
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I'm going to find a way to team up with scientists
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and experts on this, and see if we can capture
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these objects ourselves, and offer some answers.
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But first I want to invite someone
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that I really, really love, William Shatner.
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I met him on multiple projects,
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because he is the icon of the sci-fi world.
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And he also has been involved in the world of ufology,
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and world mysteries for a long time,
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I think his insight is going to be fantastic
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to help us bridge the gap from sci-fi to real science.
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And that'll give us an additional perspective
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on what this UFO/UAP phenomenon is really about.
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- What has made mankind is an insatiable curiosity.
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Insatiable. What is that?
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Nobody knows.
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A phenomena.
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- This time we're talking about UFOs.
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The fact that the government is coming up
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with all these videos and saying it's real.
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- Oh, they're saying it's real?
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- Yes. - That it's really
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an unidentified flying object.
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- Have you seen the UAP report?
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- It's inconclusive.
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- Exactly. Exactly.
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So we're very frustrated-
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- But what do you want to see?
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- Data. Data.
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I think that there were a lot of very credible cases.
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Air force pilots, Navy, military,
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there are so many of those credible cases
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that you would think by now,
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we have some sort of investigation and data reporting-
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- No, no, they had investigations.
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You would think by now that they would say,
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"Here's a piece of something," or, "Here is"-
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- Yes.
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- Right.
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- So I had an idea. (laughs)
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- Which is?
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And I'm sure it was a good one.
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- I thought we need to go all the way,
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and do something at a much bigger scale.
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We need to do a scientific investigation.
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- I think that's marvelous.
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- Those Navy pilots who were off of the coast of Catalina.
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And this is where they saw these TICTAC videos.
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And other Navy ships as well, all in the same area.
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That's kind of what I'm thinking.
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We put a team of scientists, experts,
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military folks as well, since they have the experience,
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and attempt to capture something in real time.
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- Yes, if you could hone in electronically and visually.
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on some unidentified flying object,
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you'd certainly have made news, that's for sure.
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- The TICTAC videos, for example,
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there is no other angles of the same object.
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We don't have have any sort of radiation detection.
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We don't have any sort of-
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- We don't have a triangulation.
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- We don't have any triangulation.
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- Although-
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- Yes.
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- The radar picked it up as well as the cameras
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on the ships if I'm not mistaken.
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- Yes. - All you need is a phenomena.
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- It sounds like you think it's a good idea?
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- Oh, it's a wonderful idea.
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- Great,
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- Well, I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward
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to hearing, and hopefully seeing what you've uncovered.
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- Awesome, thank you.
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- That's what we need, the smoking gun that'll clench it.
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That once and for all will settle the debate.
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No ifs, ands or buts.
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And in the process, rewrite all of human history.
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(upbeat music)
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- [Caroline] I was ecstatic to find out
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that the Navy personnel from the USS Nimitz encounter
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had created the UAPx team, with renowned scientists
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and experts, to research the UFO phenomenon
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in more depth, and with rigorous scientific methodologies.
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So, the UAPx team was the perfect fit
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for this first expedition.
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(upbeat music)
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- Oh, they're here, Gary. - Hey Gary.
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Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you
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in person, Caro. - Yeah.
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Kevin, nice to meet you.
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This is awesome. - Nice to meet you.
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- This is Jeremy.
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- Good to meet you
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in the flesh. - Good to meet you.
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- Hi Jeremy. - Kevin?
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- Mr. OSIRIS. - Good to meet you.
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- Absolutely. Absolutely. (Sarah laughs)
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- These are the guys who were on the USS Princeton,
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everybody's been talking about.
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So why should we work with any anybody else,
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but the real folks who lived it?
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- The guys who started it.
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- Yeah.
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And so this moment is very exciting for me
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because if you want to bring credibility
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to this phenomenon, you have to go all the way.
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I mean, it has to be big, it has to be scientific.
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- That's the very reason why we started our company
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is 'cause we didn't have those answers.
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- We agree. - And it
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was great that they came out, and let everybody know
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this was a real thing, but there needs to be more done.
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- Well, the video's one thing,
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but we've gotta get more data.
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- Personally thinking, we need to go back
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to where you guys were, Southern California.
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What do you suggest?
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What do you think we should do?
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- Well. - Well,
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we got a couple of locations that we kinda thought
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that we're gonna do good coverage
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of the South part of the island.
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- I'd be okay if we could get a house
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on the beach right here, somewhere, that would be ideal.
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And then maybe a place with a flat roof on Catalina.
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- Then our third location could be the truck.
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- So if we do have two stationary positions,
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and then we have Jeremy in one spot,
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we could potentially achieve some sort of triangulation.
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- Yes.
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- Which is very, very important.
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- Yes. - Yup.
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- In collecting data.
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So at the end of the day, who do we have on the team?
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- So, we've got myself, Gary Voorhis,
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we've got Kevin Day, we've got Jason Turner.
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- [Kevin] And we were all on the Princeton together.
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- [Gary] We also have Dave Altman, and Michael Hall,
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both experienced UFO researchers.
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Then we have our scientist, Kevin Knuth,
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who is an associate professor in physics,
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and an expert in exoplanet research.
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We also have Matthews Szydagis,
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an associate professor in physics.
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His expertise is in dark matter and radiation detection.
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Then we have David Mason,
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he's invented several of the devices
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that can detect communication patterns coming from UAP.
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- So we have optical, we have acoustic.
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What else we got?
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- [Gary] We got thermal,
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we've got, everything we can throw at it.
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- With all this equipment and all of us over five days,
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24/7, if we don't see something,
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I'm gonna be very disappointed.
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- It would be pretty disappointing if we don't see anything,
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but that is science though.
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- Has this ever been done before?
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- Never. - And not that I know of.
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- I've never even seen it from the government.
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- We're making history.
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(intense music)
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While the main team is getting set up
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at the Laguna location,
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Gary, Kevin, and I decided to charter a plane
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to scout a location on Catalina Island,
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so we can have the best spot for our potential sightings.
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- [Gary] So after all of the events happened,
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and Kevin Day said, "Hey, let's go out there,
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and let's go find out what they are."
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- I wanna make sure it is the best vantage point
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of facing the channel.
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- Yeah, facing the channel.
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- Yeah, exactly.
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- My goal for the expeditions is to prove they're real,
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prove they're findable, and prove these things are knowable.
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We can know what they are.
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That's my goal.
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- [Caroline] I think we're gonna have like a couple
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of really, really good spots.
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- Let's see if we can figure it out,
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let's see if we can find them.
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Let's go get the missing data ourselves.
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- I wanna be the guy that makes the identification.
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That was my job in the Navy.
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- The best vantage point we found on Catalina Island
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is on the rooftop of a building facing the channel.
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We're going to have Dave, Michael, and a friend of ours,
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Chrissy Newton set up at that location.
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They will be in constant communication
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with us on the mainland and will be able to alert us
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as soon as they have a sighting.
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- You set up on a rooftop of a building.
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You got a great line of sight,
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we've got all of the equipment put out there already.
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We're gonna have your thermal, your regular binoculars.
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Anything you see, you can be able to document
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and correlate with the data that we have on the other side.
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- I got a feeling we're gonna see something.
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I mean, there's been reports of sightings
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out there since early 40's.
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- Well, you guys know what to do.
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Get over there, get everything set up.
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- Sounds great.
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- We'll take shifts.
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- Yep. - Yep.
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- Yep. - Awesome.
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- Let's get 'em done.
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(air whooshing)
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- Michael and Dave are off to Catalina.
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We are very excited, but a bit nervous
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because the logistics for the setup on Catalina,
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and the communication are quite difficult.
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There are no trucks or vehicles on the island
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to help us move the equipment.
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And even though we do have a communication protocol
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in place, we're gonna have to rely
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on a very spotty cell-phone service.
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But with team effort, we're keeping a positive outlook,
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and hoping for the best.
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(intense music)
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- Looks like we made it, Mike.
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- Ho, ho, ho.
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- Let's get these big guys set up,
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and then we'll take a quick inventory of what we've got.
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- Give us a little bit of a practice session
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on these things moving out there,
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and we'll see if we can keep up with any UAP
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that's going thousands of miles an hour.
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We might have to- - Gonna get whiplash.
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- It's gonna be hard to catch 'em but we'll see.
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(intense music)
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- When I hear that you've assembled a team
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of top scientists using state of the art equipment
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to settle some of these questions,
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I say to myself, "What took you so long?"
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I mean, the data is out there.
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So we have to jump into it.
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Wherever it goes, wherever the data leads us,
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that's where we have to go.
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So I say it's about time.
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(intense music)
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- Here we are, the first day is for equipment set up.
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We already had power outages and software malfunction.
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We only have five days to succeed at our mission.
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So the stakes are high.
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We have come prepared, but the odds
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of capturing real anomalous objects
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within these five days are 50/50.
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We just don't know what to expect.
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(intense music continues)
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- I have a friend of mine, Chrissy Newton,
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another set of eyes.
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There'll be three sets of eyes instead of two.
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- All right, I got something.
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I got something, Michael.
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- Did you? - Yep, over here.
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Hey, come here, hurry up. - Huh?
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- It's up there.
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Oh, it's moving.
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It's frigging moving.
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Hurry up.
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- Moving.
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- You see a white ball above the mountain?
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- [Chrissy] Yep, I do.
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- You see it Mike?
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- Oh yeah.
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- Oh, I see it moving now. - Is it moving?
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- Yeah, it's moving, oh.
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We saw a few things.
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The first thing that we saw when I walked in
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was a UFO that was, well, we think it was a UFO,
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we're not 100% sure.
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We did see some craft of some sort
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that was moving across the sky.
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- Tonight was good.
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I mean, I guess having an extra set of eyes did help.
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We saw a couple of strange lights in the skies, as they say,
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when we first got here,
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and we saw a few more about an hour later.
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It's kinda getting cloudy,
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so we figure we'll pack it in for tonight
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and make it back out tomorrow night.
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- When a team member spots an anomalous object,
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the protocol is to immediately contact the rest of the team
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to see if they are able to capture
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the same object from different angles.
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And they also have to record what they capture,
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and send the recording to our scientists.
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Well, the cell communication failed on that day.
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But the recordings were sent to the scientists for analysis.
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This is our first capture.
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We can't get too excited yet, but being the first day,
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I guess this is a good sign.
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(soothing music)
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- Good morning gentlemen.
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- Good morning.
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- So we got everything out,
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We got half our equipment up,
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did you get the radiation detector running?
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- Yes I did, I got it running.
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- How is the UFODAP?
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- UFODAP got a new software pushed out to me,
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I'll get it installed and running today.
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- Roger that, how's the cosmic watch?
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- It's all patched up and ready to go.
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- All right, roger that.
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Everything going good.
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Jason, anything to report?
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- No, I think we're all good, looks good to go.
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- All right.
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Well, let's work hard,
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let's get everything up and running by noon.
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We need to get as much possible time,
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data recording while we're here.
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This is our opportunity, let's get it done.
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- Excellent, let's do it. - All right.
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- Half of our equipment is experimental,
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the other half is well, some of it's old,
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and some of it's not and some of it's cutting edge.
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So it's just a matter of,
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hopefully it'll all work. (chuckles)
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(cool music)
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Where should we put this?
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- Well guys, I think that the primary place
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is gonna be right here in the corner
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about where I'm standing.
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- All right, we've got...
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- We've got a pretty perfect view of Catalina from here.
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We've got unrestricted airspace over top of us.
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So you guys, this is actually the little brother
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of what I've got in the OSIRIS.
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We've got the magnetometers, we've got the GPS,
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we've got wireless connectivity,
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we've got all the barometric pressure, weather indicators,
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ADSB, we can track known aircraft with this.
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And the best part about this is, I can see this,
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I can control this from the OSIRIS.
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So if this thing's putting out any signals,
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we're gonna get it?
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- One of my friends, Travis Taylor,
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who is an astrophysicist,
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has been involved in studying anomalous events and UAPs
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from a scientific perspective for a long time.
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So I thought I would invite him to check out our setup,
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and get his take on some of the new technology
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and equipment we brought along.
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- I'm really optimistic.
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This is great for the first day.
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- And we're gonna have to go through
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this frame by frame. - Hey guys.
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- Hey. - Look who's here.
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- Hey, hey, Travis. - Hey Travis.
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It's been a long time.
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Two years, I think since the conference.
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- You guys know each other?
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- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah.
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- Oh okay.
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This is David Mason.
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He's the brains behind all the inventions,
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but we have two major brains here as well.
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Wait till you see what's upstairs,
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it's crazy stuff. - Wow.
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- Would you like to give him a tour?
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- Absolutely. - Awesome.
520
00:23:23,234 --> 00:23:24,735
- Well, I'd love to see it. - All right, perfect.
521
00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:28,155
- I'm really excited to see the instrumentation,
522
00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:31,076
the planning that these guys have put into this experiment.
523
00:23:31,117 --> 00:23:34,370
It's gonna change the culture in the world.
524
00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:35,830
Scientists are gonna have to start taking
525
00:23:35,872 --> 00:23:37,624
this more seriously if we're gonna get
526
00:23:37,665 --> 00:23:39,250
to the bottom of the phenomenon.
527
00:23:39,291 --> 00:23:42,253
So I hear some chirps and clicks.
528
00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:44,214
- The chirps are gamma radiation,
529
00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:45,507
which are higher energy particles
530
00:23:45,548 --> 00:23:48,300
and then the clicking is the beta radiation.
531
00:23:48,343 --> 00:23:50,345
- Yeah. - Which are softer energy.
532
00:23:50,386 --> 00:23:52,054
- What part of the spectrum are you able to look at?
533
00:23:52,096 --> 00:23:55,016
- From about 10 megahertz up to about two gigahertz.
534
00:23:55,057 --> 00:23:57,935
- So you can see all the radio stations and TV stations,
535
00:23:57,978 --> 00:24:00,020
and ham bands, and everything that everybody would use.
536
00:24:00,063 --> 00:24:02,357
So if something's there that shouldn't be there,
537
00:24:02,398 --> 00:24:03,107
then you'll see it?
538
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:04,442
- Absolutely.
539
00:24:04,483 --> 00:24:05,526
- So what else you got here?
540
00:24:05,568 --> 00:24:07,570
- We've got eight FLIR thermal cameras running.
541
00:24:07,570 --> 00:24:08,696
- [Travis] Oh wow.
542
00:24:08,738 --> 00:24:10,240
And so you can see pretty much the whole sky,
543
00:24:10,281 --> 00:24:11,449
in FLIR if you want to at night.
544
00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:12,701
- [David] Absolutely.
545
00:24:12,741 --> 00:24:14,411
- Normally, UAP researchers have one FLIR
546
00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:16,580
looking like that way or that way.
547
00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:19,249
Now you can look all over, right?
548
00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:22,043
- Many of the unknown objects I have recorded
549
00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:25,297
often register temperatures minus 20 Fahrenheit.
550
00:24:25,337 --> 00:24:28,383
I've even had some down to minus 80 Fahrenheit,
551
00:24:28,424 --> 00:24:30,634
which is just extraordinarily cold.
552
00:24:30,676 --> 00:24:34,430
Exhibit no exhaust, and no explanation for it.
553
00:24:36,098 --> 00:24:37,308
- [Travis] So what's this thing?
554
00:24:37,349 --> 00:24:39,477
- [David] This is a light wave transmitter.
555
00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:43,397
- So, it's connected to a laser or something over here?
556
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,109
- It's connected to a light wave transmitter assembly.
557
00:24:46,108 --> 00:24:48,153
There seems to be an oddity about them
558
00:24:48,194 --> 00:24:50,989
because the people report that they pulsate.
559
00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:52,781
And my theory is that there must be
560
00:24:52,781 --> 00:24:54,326
some sort of information or data.
561
00:24:54,366 --> 00:24:57,662
- So what if a UAP is off in the distance,
562
00:24:57,703 --> 00:24:59,413
and it's modulating its brightness,
563
00:24:59,455 --> 00:25:00,748
changing its brightness.
564
00:25:00,789 --> 00:25:03,375
With information pattern, they're communicating with us,
565
00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:04,293
right? - That's the theory I have.
566
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,961
- And when you convert that to sound,
567
00:25:06,003 --> 00:25:09,423
our brains and our ears and various computer algorithms
568
00:25:09,465 --> 00:25:10,966
could find a pattern in that.
569
00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:12,301
- That's correct.
570
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,304
We can also take that sound that we receive,
571
00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:15,805
and put it right back on the transmitter-
572
00:25:15,846 --> 00:25:16,972
- And send it right back to it.
573
00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:18,432
- Right back to 'em.
574
00:25:18,474 --> 00:25:19,850
So if they're sending out data we don't understand,
575
00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:21,519
we can say, "Here you go."
576
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,145
- Well see, and that's the first protocol
577
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:26,107
in any communication is you say, hello world.
578
00:25:26,148 --> 00:25:27,483
If you hear hello world,
579
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:29,318
you say hello world right back to them.
580
00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:31,488
So, what's really cool about this is
581
00:25:31,529 --> 00:25:36,367
you've got a capability here to maybe detect communications,
582
00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:38,870
and rebroadcast those communications
583
00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:42,665
in both electromagnetic, or radio station, microwave,
584
00:25:42,665 --> 00:25:47,671
all that, optical, ultraviolet, visible and infrared light,
585
00:25:48,587 --> 00:25:50,173
as well as temperature.
586
00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:51,508
That gives you a broad range
587
00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:53,759
of where potential communications might be.
588
00:25:53,801 --> 00:25:56,679
We have no idea how the UAPs might be communicating.
589
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,014
- That's right.
590
00:25:58,056 --> 00:25:59,557
- I'm really impressed.
591
00:25:59,598 --> 00:26:02,101
This is exciting, and I can't wait to see it working,
592
00:26:02,143 --> 00:26:04,854
and hopefully we see a UAP and talk to it.
593
00:26:04,895 --> 00:26:05,688
- I'd like to do that.
594
00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:07,231
- I would too.
595
00:26:07,273 --> 00:26:09,858
(intense music)
596
00:26:11,111 --> 00:26:13,863
- We wanna use really high tech gear
597
00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:15,740
to collect some techno signatures.
598
00:26:15,781 --> 00:26:18,492
We're hoping to be able to use that technology,
599
00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:21,454
if we do find them to actually handshake these things,
600
00:26:21,496 --> 00:26:22,872
or maybe even talk to 'em.
601
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,879
- I gotta tell you guys, after having a tour of
602
00:26:29,878 --> 00:26:31,548
what you've got here, I'm really impressed.
603
00:26:31,589 --> 00:26:34,091
You're covering the phenomenologies
604
00:26:34,134 --> 00:26:36,094
across the spectrum of physics.
605
00:26:36,135 --> 00:26:39,013
I've never seen anything as singularly focused
606
00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:41,557
as this effort for one particular type of phenomena.
607
00:26:41,557 --> 00:26:43,058
- So here's another one of these,
608
00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,519
can't take credit for this, but this is a designed
609
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,438
by my friends and colleagues at MIT.
610
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,566
This is just a general radiation detector
611
00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:52,568
to look for anything that's anomalous
612
00:26:52,568 --> 00:26:56,239
above a normal background reading in a given location.
613
00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:58,825
(intense music)
614
00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:31,732
- I got another one. - Nice.
615
00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,317
- Look Mike, Mike it's...
616
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,652
Oh my God!
617
00:27:34,693 --> 00:27:35,694
- Okay.
618
00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:38,031
- Look towards, it's right there.
619
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,451
I'm not taking off of it this time.
620
00:27:41,451 --> 00:27:42,993
You see it? - Oh man, that's big.
621
00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,746
- [Dave] Yeah, that's not a plane.
622
00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,541
And it just showed up out of nowhere.
623
00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:51,461
- [Mike] Okay, let's see if we can get this on tape.
624
00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:52,796
- [Dave] Yep.
625
00:27:52,836 --> 00:27:56,465
(intense music continues)
626
00:28:00,511 --> 00:28:01,971
- I got it. - Yep, you got it?
627
00:28:03,431 --> 00:28:05,850
I wanna see it until it's gone, I wanna see how it travels.
628
00:28:05,892 --> 00:28:08,394
- See how it leaves. - Yep, that's what I want.
629
00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:16,569
It's not a star, it wasn't there before.
630
00:28:18,654 --> 00:28:20,781
And that would be a really bright star.
631
00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:23,618
There's no way that's a star, that was not there.
632
00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:25,620
- [Mike] It's pretty low in the horizon too.
633
00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:26,663
- [Dave] Yeah.
634
00:28:26,663 --> 00:28:29,207
(phone ringing)
635
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,503
- Hey Michael, go ahead.
636
00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:37,548
- Hey, we just saw something quite anomalous,
637
00:28:37,589 --> 00:28:40,843
and Dave and I both got it on tape
638
00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:43,763
from our night vision photography.
639
00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:46,474
Different angles, same object.
640
00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:48,685
- All right, I need to know bearing, elevation,
641
00:28:48,684 --> 00:28:50,352
which way is it going?
642
00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:53,565
- 300 degrees Northwest is where it finally appeared
643
00:28:53,605 --> 00:28:58,611
in front of us, to about 29 degrees Northeast,
644
00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:03,574
and disappeared in the clouds towards the mainland
645
00:29:03,615 --> 00:29:04,951
where you guys are.
646
00:29:04,992 --> 00:29:06,577
- All right, Michael, I'm looking on ADSB
647
00:29:06,618 --> 00:29:09,872
and M-Lab right now, we've got no aircraft in the vicinity
648
00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:11,207
of the island right now.
649
00:29:11,207 --> 00:29:13,251
We've got a couple coming up the coast,
650
00:29:13,292 --> 00:29:16,378
and we've got one heading South towards the island,
651
00:29:16,378 --> 00:29:19,757
but there is nothing that has either tracked,
652
00:29:19,798 --> 00:29:21,425
or is tracking in the directionality
653
00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:22,802
that you were talking about.
654
00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:26,306
- All right, Jason look 30 degrees towards the island.
655
00:29:26,346 --> 00:29:29,600
So gimme a description of it, like what did it look like?
656
00:29:29,642 --> 00:29:33,354
- It was just a solid white spherical object.
657
00:29:33,395 --> 00:29:35,731
- Put your hands in front of those two cameras for me.
658
00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:39,903
All right, all right, mark it on those two cameras
659
00:29:39,943 --> 00:29:44,072
for two to three minutes ago, so we can check the recording.
660
00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:48,995
(indistinct) We got a object on two different cameras.
661
00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:51,748
- Be right there.
662
00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:57,796
- All right, so this is happening.(chuckles)
663
00:29:57,836 --> 00:30:01,132
We just had a triple gamma repeating frequency just now.
664
00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:02,800
- Really?
665
00:30:02,842 --> 00:30:03,634
- Yep.
666
00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,261
Where's it Matt?
667
00:30:06,261 --> 00:30:07,806
- I'm gonna go look with the night vision
668
00:30:07,846 --> 00:30:09,848
because we need to be watching for these things.
669
00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:11,267
- Yeah, we need to be in the sky.
670
00:30:11,308 --> 00:30:12,226
- And keep your eyes peeled,
671
00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:16,439
we're getting a lot of triple spikes on-
672
00:30:16,439 --> 00:30:18,066
- On gamma. - On gamma.
673
00:30:18,106 --> 00:30:21,653
- [Micheal] I'm seeing a blinking white light.
674
00:30:21,693 --> 00:30:23,445
- Hey, Jeremy?
675
00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:26,740
Jeremy, I think it's time to get a third vantage point.
676
00:30:26,782 --> 00:30:27,866
We're gonna take off.
677
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:29,326
- All right, guys.
678
00:30:29,368 --> 00:30:32,704
Right out by Avalon, just left of Avalon,
679
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:36,334
there was a bright flash, a couple flashes.
680
00:30:36,375 --> 00:30:37,335
- [Jeremy] We got certain 737 MAX
681
00:30:37,376 --> 00:30:39,211
coming in towards us.
682
00:30:39,253 --> 00:30:43,465
- No, I saw the plane up, it's about 45 degrees altitude,
683
00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,803
but this was level with Avalon.
684
00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,637
- Oh, it's on the horizon? - On the horizon.
685
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,806
Really bright flash. - Yeah, we got one coming.
686
00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:52,307
- I'm coming. - Straight across their path.
687
00:30:52,349 --> 00:30:53,809
- Yeah, you're seeing this on the horizon.
688
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,186
- It would be on our horizon.
689
00:30:55,228 --> 00:30:56,479
- Would you say add Avalon? - Right here.
690
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,730
- Yeah, it was just to the left of Avalon.
691
00:31:00,023 --> 00:31:02,818
And it was like three really bright flashes several times.
692
00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:03,987
- All right, Jim.
693
00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:04,988
- Yeah. - Let's roll.
694
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,740
(upbeat music)
695
00:31:12,912 --> 00:31:13,954
- Hey Matthew.
696
00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:15,373
- Hey, what's going on up here?
697
00:31:15,414 --> 00:31:17,332
- [Gary] I've been getting spikes of-
698
00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:18,877
- [Mathew] This is an increase in radiation.
699
00:31:18,917 --> 00:31:20,836
- And it's been increasingly gaining,
700
00:31:20,836 --> 00:31:23,506
Sometimes the amplitudes were plateauing out
701
00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:25,341
where it couldn't go anymore.
702
00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:26,592
(Mathew chuckles)
703
00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:29,011
- Like literally in the last five, 10 minutes,
704
00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:30,847
we're getting like three bursts?
705
00:31:30,888 --> 00:31:32,347
- But to get anything from miles away,
706
00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:35,476
that means it must be an incredibly high flux source.
707
00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:36,728
Just like a light bulb,
708
00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:38,479
everything spreads out in three dimensions.
709
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,107
In order to get a reading of anything from an object
710
00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:44,277
that's really far away, that means it has
711
00:31:44,318 --> 00:31:46,486
to be an incredibly intense source.
712
00:31:46,528 --> 00:31:47,821
- Wow. - Of whatever it's producing.
713
00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:50,533
But this is more interesting if we can correlate this
714
00:31:50,532 --> 00:31:52,200
as a spike being at the same time
715
00:31:52,201 --> 00:31:53,827
as the visual observations.
716
00:31:53,869 --> 00:31:54,828
- I'm so excited.
717
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:56,163
- I'm very excited, but we need to make sure
718
00:31:56,204 --> 00:31:59,750
it's not airplane, or satellite, although,
719
00:31:59,791 --> 00:32:00,709
that's what's so great
720
00:32:00,751 --> 00:32:02,336
about our set up that makes it unique.
721
00:32:02,377 --> 00:32:04,880
Because as far as I know, there's no such thing
722
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,050
as a radioactive bird or plane.
723
00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:11,471
So that kind of starts to help rule out
724
00:32:11,511 --> 00:32:13,722
mundane explanations like that.
725
00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:16,351
(intense music)
726
00:32:59,018 --> 00:33:01,938
- Yeah, dude, there's nobody at, you see where it's going?
727
00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:03,940
- All right.
728
00:33:06,233 --> 00:33:07,401
- There's ain't nobody
729
00:33:07,442 --> 00:33:10,445
coming out here. - We'll be done with it.
730
00:33:13,031 --> 00:33:16,868
- [Gadget Prompt] Power on. Rewind.
731
00:33:16,911 --> 00:33:21,958
- (indistinct) All right, she's running.
732
00:33:28,964 --> 00:33:31,509
- All right, we're operational right now, so.
733
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:34,136
- All right, they got the UFODAP operational
734
00:33:34,136 --> 00:33:35,679
over where they're at.
735
00:33:35,721 --> 00:33:38,891
They're basically somewhere about five miles away.
736
00:33:38,932 --> 00:33:39,850
- Can you see the laser?
737
00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:41,936
- Around the 10 miles figure?
738
00:33:41,978 --> 00:33:46,983
- Yeah, I mean, look, these other traffic heading that way.
739
00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:48,567
It's all coming this way.
740
00:33:48,608 --> 00:33:49,860
- Yeah.
741
00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:50,944
- [Chrissy] We're getting triple bursts here.
742
00:33:50,987 --> 00:33:51,696
- [Gary] Yeah-
743
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:52,739
- [Chrissy] Oh yeah,
744
00:33:52,779 --> 00:33:53,990
we gotta another one. - We've got another triple.
745
00:33:54,031 --> 00:33:55,032
- [Chrissy] Awesome.
746
00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:56,325
- We got a lot of triples coming through guys,
747
00:33:56,366 --> 00:33:57,326
keep an eye out.
748
00:33:59,703 --> 00:34:04,000
- We saw some anomalous objects that are not satellites,
749
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,876
that are not drones.
750
00:34:05,917 --> 00:34:09,337
The fact that these things were solid in color,
751
00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:13,217
round to ovoid shape, moving in an anomalous pattern,
752
00:34:13,259 --> 00:34:15,677
no sound, that was incredible.
753
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,305
(intense music)
754
00:34:19,264 --> 00:34:20,849
- [Gary] You see it?
755
00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:22,934
- It didn't activate the camera at all, it just...
756
00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:26,230
That was bright as hell!
757
00:34:26,271 --> 00:34:28,356
- Yeah, it was bright, bro.
758
00:34:28,398 --> 00:34:30,567
It went right across the screen, like right here.
759
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:31,736
- Yep. - Like that and-
760
00:34:31,777 --> 00:34:33,904
- Did you see it on the...
761
00:34:33,945 --> 00:34:34,947
- No, it never showed.
762
00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:36,157
Okay, that's the weird part.
763
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,159
It never showed on the Fisheye.
764
00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,370
So the Fisheye never triggered the PTZ.
765
00:34:41,411 --> 00:34:43,455
I only saw it on the PTZ camera.
766
00:34:44,414 --> 00:34:46,708
(phone ringing)
767
00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,045
- Just trying to check in, see what you guys are going on.
768
00:34:49,086 --> 00:34:51,880
- All right, so we got some weirdness happening here.
769
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,382
- Hey, what did you get? - We saw an object,
770
00:34:53,423 --> 00:34:56,259
only on the PTZ camera.
771
00:34:56,302 --> 00:34:59,555
It did not show up on the Fisheye.
772
00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:03,059
And I've never seen where I've got two cameras
773
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:04,769
within two feet of each other,
774
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,438
one can see the object and the other one cannot.
775
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,608
So it's literally an anomalous thing where one camera
776
00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:14,694
is seeing a cloud and the object,
777
00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:17,907
when the other camera is seeing just the cloud,
778
00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:20,742
but I can't see the object where it should be.
779
00:35:20,784 --> 00:35:22,786
It's just not there.
780
00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,581
It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
781
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:28,251
(ominous music)
782
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:35,466
- It's fading- - It's gone.
783
00:35:35,507 --> 00:35:36,259
It's gone.
784
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:37,050
- It's freaking gone.
785
00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:39,512
It's just gone.
786
00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:41,597
- It disappeared, man. - Yeah, disappeared.
787
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:42,932
- Holy Macro!
788
00:35:42,931 --> 00:35:44,099
- Did you get that on video disappearing?
789
00:35:44,141 --> 00:35:44,850
- Yes I did.
790
00:35:44,891 --> 00:35:46,018
- Wow.
791
00:35:46,059 --> 00:35:48,478
(bouncy music)
792
00:35:57,112 --> 00:35:58,114
- Hey David.
793
00:35:58,114 --> 00:35:59,115
- Yeah.
794
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:03,952
- I was looking over the cosmic watch records,
795
00:36:03,952 --> 00:36:07,164
and I found a couple of high rate events
796
00:36:07,206 --> 00:36:09,166
and a high energy event.
797
00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:13,546
And that was between 6:07 and 6:13 P.M.
798
00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:16,798
Do you have anything on the FLIR at that time?
799
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,925
- Yeah, we have an anomalous object,
800
00:36:18,967 --> 00:36:21,303
and this thing is like an elongated,
801
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,097
I don't know what to call it 'cause it's not an aircraft,
802
00:36:24,139 --> 00:36:27,643
it's not a bird, it's not a bug, it doesn't fit all
803
00:36:27,684 --> 00:36:30,313
of the prosaic objects that we are aware of.
804
00:36:30,353 --> 00:36:32,022
And you notice that it's moving
805
00:36:32,063 --> 00:36:34,482
where it's contradictory to its trajectory.
806
00:36:34,483 --> 00:36:37,486
So it's like it's moving sideways against the wind,
807
00:36:37,527 --> 00:36:39,654
if it were an aerial object.
808
00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:43,784
- This looks pretty similar to the Nimitz Tic Tac incident.
809
00:36:43,826 --> 00:36:45,702
- It does, it does look like that.
810
00:36:47,163 --> 00:36:51,000
- [Pilot] (yells) Got it, (laughing) woo hoo!
811
00:36:51,041 --> 00:36:52,000
We're going against the wind.
812
00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:53,878
The wind's 120 miles to the West.
813
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,173
- And there was a 32 MeV event.
814
00:36:58,173 --> 00:37:01,384
I mean, within the time synchronization of certainty.
815
00:37:01,427 --> 00:37:03,179
- And Matthew, I've got some else here.
816
00:37:03,221 --> 00:37:07,974
It is an object, appears suddenly in the camera, and then-
817
00:37:08,016 --> 00:37:08,893
- Well, what was that?
818
00:37:08,934 --> 00:37:09,726
Oh, there's a-
819
00:37:11,186 --> 00:37:13,480
- The object appears and then moves off screen
820
00:37:13,521 --> 00:37:15,065
rather suddenly, and then now it looks
821
00:37:15,106 --> 00:37:16,358
like it's reappearing.
822
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,193
- Is that the same object coming back?
823
00:37:18,235 --> 00:37:20,695
- Could be, I mean, it looks like it's in the same location.
824
00:37:20,737 --> 00:37:22,239
Did you just see how it zigzagged?
825
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,740
It just moved in and moved out.
826
00:37:23,782 --> 00:37:25,034
This is exciting.
827
00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,117
- [Mathew] Certainly anomalous, right?
828
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:27,536
We're not gonna be able to explain that easily.
829
00:37:27,577 --> 00:37:28,913
- Not very easily.
830
00:37:28,954 --> 00:37:31,039
You can't use all the prosaic explanations
831
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,251
of bird bugs or aircraft on this one.
832
00:37:34,293 --> 00:37:36,503
And then check this out, we have a object
833
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,923
that it'll appear in the frame-
834
00:37:39,965 --> 00:37:41,342
- [Mathew] Well, what is that?
835
00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:42,550
- [David] You see that?
836
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:44,219
- [Mathew] Yeah.
837
00:37:44,219 --> 00:37:47,555
- [David] What is strange is, it's registering cold
838
00:37:47,597 --> 00:37:51,893
in the thermal camera over several pixels,
839
00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:54,063
and it has some motion to it.
840
00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:56,106
It looks like it rotates or tilts,
841
00:37:56,148 --> 00:37:59,902
and appears, and then dissipates out of the frame.
842
00:37:59,943 --> 00:38:00,860
- [Mathew] That's even weirder than
843
00:38:00,902 --> 00:38:01,861
the other things you showed me.
844
00:38:01,903 --> 00:38:02,612
- Yes.
845
00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:03,572
- What time was this at?
846
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:05,699
- At 9:29 P.M.
847
00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:09,244
- That matches in time to the night vision videos
848
00:38:09,286 --> 00:38:11,079
that we got from the island team.
849
00:38:11,121 --> 00:38:12,748
Yeah, that's when they called in
850
00:38:12,748 --> 00:38:14,791
with their night vision videos.
851
00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:17,460
They saw an anomalous object and we also saw
852
00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:19,088
an anomalous object in the FLIR.
853
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:20,756
That would be a remarkable coincidence.
854
00:38:20,797 --> 00:38:22,090
- [David] That would be remarkable.
855
00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:24,301
However, it just appear, and then just disappear
856
00:38:24,342 --> 00:38:27,637
without leaving the frame, without showing a path.
857
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,140
This was just in there and then it wasn't in there.
858
00:38:30,181 --> 00:38:31,266
- It's fading- - It's gone.
859
00:38:31,266 --> 00:38:33,184
- It's gone. - It's freaking gone.
860
00:38:33,226 --> 00:38:35,186
- Another interesting fact about this is that
861
00:38:35,228 --> 00:38:38,481
this particular camera was aimed at a 45 degree angle
862
00:38:38,523 --> 00:38:40,317
toward Catalina Island.
863
00:38:40,358 --> 00:38:42,277
- So could conceive it would be
864
00:38:42,277 --> 00:38:44,112
the same object. - Same object.
865
00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:46,324
Yep, because they're triangulating from their perspective,
866
00:38:46,364 --> 00:38:49,951
and then we're triangulating and converging at two points.
867
00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:53,164
- That would mean that we have seen the same object,
868
00:38:53,204 --> 00:38:55,790
not only from different angles,
869
00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:57,835
but also three different wavelengths;
870
00:38:57,876 --> 00:39:01,172
visible light and two different kinds of infrared, right?
871
00:39:01,213 --> 00:39:05,009
So that is unprecedented in the history of UAP research.
872
00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:07,177
- Having correlating day from different instruments,
873
00:39:07,219 --> 00:39:09,637
with different wavelengths, including radiation.
874
00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:10,847
That's just phenomenal.
875
00:39:13,224 --> 00:39:17,480
- In science, it's very important, especially when studying
876
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:20,858
an unknown phenomenon, to be able to
877
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,987
have multiple different modes or modalities of studying it,
878
00:39:25,028 --> 00:39:27,364
and being able to look at correlations
879
00:39:27,405 --> 00:39:28,865
between different devices
880
00:39:28,907 --> 00:39:30,701
that are studying the same phenomenon.
881
00:39:30,742 --> 00:39:35,038
This reduces the probability of equipment malfunction,
882
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:37,666
glitches and things like that because the probability
883
00:39:37,666 --> 00:39:42,254
was greatly reduced of something being accidental,
884
00:39:42,295 --> 00:39:45,173
if you can see it across different devices,
885
00:39:45,173 --> 00:39:47,384
especially those different devices
886
00:39:47,425 --> 00:39:49,552
are based on different technologies,
887
00:39:49,594 --> 00:39:52,639
and are looking at the same thing, different ways.
888
00:39:54,182 --> 00:39:58,938
- Today, July 14th, 2021 is an exciting eventful day.
889
00:40:00,188 --> 00:40:03,817
At 5:26 PM, a pink object appears,
890
00:40:03,858 --> 00:40:06,319
makes a U-turn, exits frame.
891
00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:07,655
Very anomalous.
892
00:40:07,695 --> 00:40:12,659
6:07 P.M., a high-energy radiation registers 32.32 MeV.
893
00:40:15,246 --> 00:40:19,208
6:09 P.M. we capture another Tic Tac like object,
894
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:20,876
traveling sideways.
895
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:24,213
Could these be the same Navy Tic Tacs that were observed
896
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:29,260
in 2004 by the USS Nimitz, then by other ships from 2014,
897
00:40:30,302 --> 00:40:33,222
all the way to 2019?
898
00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:34,723
That would be incredible.
899
00:40:34,764 --> 00:40:39,769
Later that evening at 9:29 P.M., the Catalina team captures
900
00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:43,106
an anomalous object, solid in color
901
00:40:43,148 --> 00:40:47,110
on two night vision cameras and one CCD camera,
902
00:40:47,152 --> 00:40:50,238
which correlates with the solid object caught
903
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,574
on our FLIR camera.
904
00:40:51,614 --> 00:40:54,367
Now this object registers cold,
905
00:40:54,409 --> 00:40:58,413
which means it has no propulsion system that we know of.
906
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:01,500
The object suddenly disappears simultaneously
907
00:41:01,541 --> 00:41:04,252
out of sight from the multiple angles.
908
00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:07,548
Even more intriguing is that at the same time,
909
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:12,303
the OSIRIS registers one anomalous object on one camera,
910
00:41:12,344 --> 00:41:14,096
but not the other.
911
00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:17,932
These are very intriguing, very compelling events,
912
00:41:17,932 --> 00:41:20,603
and astounding correlations.
913
00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:22,855
I think today was a breakthrough
914
00:41:22,896 --> 00:41:24,648
in our expedition and research.
915
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,275
I am very hopeful.
916
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:29,110
We're finally on the right track in uncovering
917
00:41:29,152 --> 00:41:31,654
what these Tic Tac objects may be,
918
00:41:31,697 --> 00:41:36,702
or at least getting more evidential data on UAPs and UFOs.
919
00:41:37,619 --> 00:41:40,663
(air whooshing)
920
00:41:40,706 --> 00:41:45,461
- It takes just one credible irrefutable piece of evidence
921
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:48,672
to change all of world history.
922
00:41:48,713 --> 00:41:51,342
The entire literature of the human race
923
00:41:51,382 --> 00:41:55,471
would have to be changed if we had just one incident
924
00:41:55,512 --> 00:41:56,639
that is irrefutable.
925
00:41:58,139 --> 00:42:01,851
- Science is also about the skills of data analysis.
926
00:42:01,893 --> 00:42:04,354
It's not just the hardware, it's the software.
927
00:42:04,396 --> 00:42:06,440
And I don't just mean computer software,
928
00:42:06,481 --> 00:42:09,442
I mean our human minds and our intelligence
929
00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:12,112
in applying it to analyzing the data.
930
00:42:12,153 --> 00:42:14,864
- So here's the first one right here,
931
00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:18,369
and the night was pretty clear, so you have to be careful
932
00:42:18,409 --> 00:42:19,869
not to be fooled
933
00:42:19,911 --> 00:42:22,705
by a lot of fuzzy splashes, obviously stars.
934
00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:25,416
You'll also see a lot of fast objects go by,
935
00:42:25,458 --> 00:42:29,003
which I'm pretty sure are meteors, but what is that?
936
00:42:29,003 --> 00:42:30,172
- No, that's-
937
00:42:30,213 --> 00:42:32,007
- What is that slow moving object?
938
00:42:32,048 --> 00:42:33,259
- And it's changing speed,
939
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,344
it just slowed down and curved a little bit.
940
00:42:35,385 --> 00:42:37,762
- It's changing angle and it's not blinking.
941
00:42:37,804 --> 00:42:39,389
It's not blinking like an airplane would,
942
00:42:39,431 --> 00:42:40,557
with airplane lights.
943
00:42:41,432 --> 00:42:43,686
- Part of the scientific analysis
944
00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:46,063
is to carefully rule out objects
945
00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,565
that can easily be taken for UFOs.
946
00:42:48,606 --> 00:42:52,193
For example, a human made advanced technology,
947
00:42:52,235 --> 00:42:55,364
or a mirage-like object, or an aura
948
00:42:55,405 --> 00:43:00,411
that can easily mimic a UFO because of reflectivity
949
00:43:01,494 --> 00:43:04,248
or some other atmospheric event.
950
00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:10,546
- There is a phenomena that you haven't mentioned.
951
00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:11,547
- Yes?
952
00:43:11,588 --> 00:43:16,217
- We know that whales sing songs.
953
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,262
And we know that whales can hear them
954
00:43:19,554 --> 00:43:21,306
across the ocean, 1,000 miles away.
955
00:43:22,557 --> 00:43:25,393
The sound bounces off layers
956
00:43:25,393 --> 00:43:27,979
of water of different temperatures,
957
00:43:28,021 --> 00:43:31,275
and then can be heart many miles away.
958
00:43:31,317 --> 00:43:33,152
That same phenomena applies to light.
959
00:43:33,193 --> 00:43:34,278
You're aware of that, right?
960
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,613
- Mm-hmm.
961
00:43:35,653 --> 00:43:38,532
- Fata Morgana is a mirage when people,
962
00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:43,077
and I've seen this myself, seen something on a rock
963
00:43:43,077 --> 00:43:45,748
or some distance away in the desert.
964
00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:49,251
And you could sometimes see a weird thing.
965
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,420
And when you came upon it, it disappeared.
966
00:43:51,461 --> 00:43:53,588
Something happening over there,
967
00:43:54,797 --> 00:43:58,885
the light bounces off a hot layer of air over there,
968
00:43:58,927 --> 00:44:00,637
and appears over here.
969
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:05,684
So those floating ships that we've seen, mirages,
970
00:44:06,934 --> 00:44:09,896
and many, many other objects, the explanation is that
971
00:44:11,981 --> 00:44:16,987
a lot of phenomena are natural and explicable.
972
00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:22,451
Now, it's also possible that some of these phenomena
973
00:44:23,117 --> 00:44:24,452
aren't explained,
974
00:44:24,452 --> 00:44:26,246
and that's what you're applying yourself to.
975
00:44:26,288 --> 00:44:28,916
- That's the idea of this research.
976
00:44:28,956 --> 00:44:30,416
- Right.
977
00:44:30,458 --> 00:44:32,919
- Is to explain the explainable that the average person
978
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,713
would think is an anomaly, but in fact it's not.
979
00:44:35,755 --> 00:44:37,590
- Right. - Yeah, exactly.
980
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,637
- When the normal average person looks up at the night sky,
981
00:44:42,637 --> 00:44:45,807
or even the daytime sky, and they see something
982
00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:49,228
that confuses them, typically they're making
983
00:44:49,268 --> 00:44:51,979
the cognitive jump right to a UAP.
984
00:44:52,021 --> 00:44:56,652
I can tell you for a 100% fact that we have technology
985
00:44:56,652 --> 00:45:01,490
that does some crazy things, that looks so unconventional,
986
00:45:01,489 --> 00:45:04,701
that the vast majority of the citizenry in this country
987
00:45:04,742 --> 00:45:07,663
have no idea what's actually flying in our skies.
988
00:45:07,704 --> 00:45:10,790
For example, Northrop Grumman's X47B,
989
00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:15,295
this is a mock 9-plus capable aircraft,
990
00:45:15,336 --> 00:45:18,673
it is shaped almost in an equilateral triangle,
991
00:45:18,673 --> 00:45:20,134
this thing has a service ceiling
992
00:45:20,175 --> 00:45:22,928
of roughly 40 to 50,000 feet.
993
00:45:22,969 --> 00:45:25,722
So at that altitude, you're not gonna hear sound.
994
00:45:25,764 --> 00:45:28,684
So the only thing that a person may be seeing
995
00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:31,269
is just the reflection of ambient light
996
00:45:31,311 --> 00:45:34,690
from the surface of the aircraft, which makes it look as if
997
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:38,360
there is an illuminated triangle flying across the sky.
998
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,697
One of the other examples of a drone
999
00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:43,657
that most people don't know about
1000
00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:45,242
is Northrop Grumman's Bat.
1001
00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:49,246
They're much, much smaller, the Bat could probably fit
1002
00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:51,498
in the trunk of my vehicle.
1003
00:45:51,539 --> 00:45:56,503
So these things can be launched from a catapult on a ship
1004
00:45:57,795 --> 00:45:59,756
with without having to have a runway or a flight deck.
1005
00:45:59,797 --> 00:46:01,883
They are propeller-powered, electrically-driven,
1006
00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:05,554
and they have an endurance of up to 18 hours.
1007
00:46:05,554 --> 00:46:09,724
So this is a drone that has a small battery pack,
1008
00:46:09,766 --> 00:46:14,061
but it still maintains very robust sensor capability,
1009
00:46:14,061 --> 00:46:17,900
and an extended duration of almost 20 hours
1010
00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:20,067
of flight time, giving it the capability
1011
00:46:20,068 --> 00:46:22,696
of getting out to sea, potentially swarming
1012
00:46:22,737 --> 00:46:25,406
around a vessel, and returning.
1013
00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:28,076
The things that the Tic Tac was doing,
1014
00:46:28,117 --> 00:46:32,748
in my understanding of aircraft and flight dynamics,
1015
00:46:32,789 --> 00:46:34,708
we still are not at that level.
1016
00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:37,585
(air whooshing)
1017
00:46:44,592 --> 00:46:45,344
- Thanks for coming out, Ryan.
1018
00:46:45,385 --> 00:46:46,804
- No, no problem.
1019
00:46:46,844 --> 00:46:49,722
- I'll sit down and pick your brain for little while.
1020
00:46:49,764 --> 00:46:50,598
- Sounds good.
1021
00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:51,767
- Right, so it's been a while.
1022
00:46:51,766 --> 00:46:53,100
- It has been.
1023
00:46:53,101 --> 00:46:55,771
- Thanks for coming by, ship mate, I appreciate
1024
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:59,106
you visiting us here while we're doing our research.
1025
00:46:59,148 --> 00:47:01,902
You were on board when commander Fravor did
1026
00:47:01,943 --> 00:47:05,279
his famous intercept and the Tic Tac video was created.
1027
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,615
- Yes.
1028
00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:09,660
- Could you walk me through exactly how you found out,
1029
00:47:09,701 --> 00:47:11,619
like what you were doing on board?
1030
00:47:11,661 --> 00:47:13,120
I honestly never had met you
1031
00:47:13,163 --> 00:47:14,831
and it's a pretty small ship, so.
1032
00:47:14,873 --> 00:47:15,916
- Right.
1033
00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,459
I was part of the air detachment,
1034
00:47:17,458 --> 00:47:20,169
I was leading petty officer of HSL 43S detachment
1035
00:47:20,211 --> 00:47:21,922
on board with you guys on the Princeton.
1036
00:47:21,963 --> 00:47:24,715
I had actually been in combat at the time on the phone
1037
00:47:24,757 --> 00:47:26,968
with the command back home because we needed
1038
00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:28,512
something for our aircraft.
1039
00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:30,639
So we were working out the logistics of that.
1040
00:47:30,681 --> 00:47:33,599
During that timeframe, the intercept was going on,
1041
00:47:33,641 --> 00:47:35,309
there was radar screens, so I was able to see that.
1042
00:47:35,309 --> 00:47:37,353
And then of course, all of the commotion,
1043
00:47:38,563 --> 00:47:40,356
and what was going on around me during
1044
00:47:40,398 --> 00:47:43,317
that timeframe was definitely heightened.
1045
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,198
- Were you there when the civilians had come on board?
1046
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,159
I refer to 'em now as the men in khaki because, (laughing)
1047
00:47:52,202 --> 00:47:55,205
- Right, so yeah, I was there when they showed up.
1048
00:47:55,246 --> 00:47:58,332
I was in the hangar during flight ops, they came in,
1049
00:47:58,333 --> 00:48:00,836
walked pretty much straight out of the hangar and left,
1050
00:48:00,835 --> 00:48:04,755
came back short time later with some bags and took off.
1051
00:48:04,797 --> 00:48:07,008
- [Gary] (laughs) Well, I can fill you in on what they took.
1052
00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:08,343
- Yeah, I know you can do that.
1053
00:48:08,342 --> 00:48:10,803
- Yeah, all of our data are recording.
1054
00:48:10,846 --> 00:48:15,809
So now that you saw the Tic Tac video and the GIMBAL videos
1055
00:48:17,393 --> 00:48:20,021
and all the stuff that we know about what actually happened,
1056
00:48:20,021 --> 00:48:23,357
and the flight characteristics of what it could actually do,
1057
00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:25,736
you being really familiar with aircraft being
1058
00:48:25,777 --> 00:48:29,697
in the air deck, what did you think about it?
1059
00:48:29,739 --> 00:48:33,659
- What I thought about it is there's absolutely no aircraft
1060
00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:36,246
that can do what those things were doing
1061
00:48:36,288 --> 00:48:38,748
that I know of or have seen.
1062
00:48:38,789 --> 00:48:41,460
- So no nobody wants to be the UFO guy,
1063
00:48:41,501 --> 00:48:45,255
and it's usually hard to talk about anyways.
1064
00:48:46,547 --> 00:48:48,925
What made you be able to get over all that,
1065
00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:50,052
to talk about it?
1066
00:48:50,052 --> 00:48:51,385
Was there a real big stigma in the air deck
1067
00:48:51,385 --> 00:48:52,887
about stuff like that?
1068
00:48:52,929 --> 00:48:54,889
- Well, there's always a stigma when you talk about UFOs,
1069
00:48:54,889 --> 00:48:57,516
it doesn't matter if people believe you or not,
1070
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,894
you're gonna get something for it.
1071
00:48:59,936 --> 00:49:02,897
- I always planning on making a full second career
1072
00:49:02,898 --> 00:49:05,608
in the department of defense as a contractor,
1073
00:49:05,650 --> 00:49:07,693
but because I was clowned and ridiculed
1074
00:49:07,735 --> 00:49:09,904
and kinda lost my reputation a little bit,
1075
00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:13,407
it destroyed me almost.
1076
00:49:13,407 --> 00:49:14,742
I saw this video on the TV guys like,
1077
00:49:14,784 --> 00:49:18,996
"Oh my freakin' God, it's happening?"
1078
00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:21,917
And I dropped the plate of food and I jumped on the internet
1079
00:49:21,916 --> 00:49:24,670
and found out what had just happened.
1080
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:26,003
That moment shook me to the core
1081
00:49:26,045 --> 00:49:28,381
'cause I knew my life was about to change again.
1082
00:49:28,422 --> 00:49:31,175
I had gone through all this pain and suffering if you will,
1083
00:49:31,217 --> 00:49:33,971
so I feel validated right now.
1084
00:49:36,931 --> 00:49:39,684
- My thing is is, I saw what I saw,
1085
00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:41,478
and I can't unsee what I saw.
1086
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:45,898
And if I saw it, then it happened, and I wanna back that up.
1087
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:49,443
- For me, I was lucky that I didn't have the level
1088
00:49:49,443 --> 00:49:51,654
of PTSD that some of the other guys did,
1089
00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:56,702
but instead of trying to make this public, I internalized.
1090
00:49:57,536 --> 00:49:59,454
For a long time after the event,
1091
00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:03,000
I was emotionally completely voided.
1092
00:50:03,041 --> 00:50:08,046
I didn't really care, honestly, whether I lived or died,
1093
00:50:09,547 --> 00:50:13,134
or whether or not anybody wanted to have a relationship
1094
00:50:13,175 --> 00:50:15,177
with me, nor was I capable of having
1095
00:50:15,219 --> 00:50:17,638
any type of interpersonal relationship.
1096
00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:20,182
- We need to tell the truth about the things that we see.
1097
00:50:20,224 --> 00:50:22,435
- Yeah, and that's the one thing that really bugs
1098
00:50:22,476 --> 00:50:26,440
a lot of us about that too, is that we couldn't tell
1099
00:50:26,481 --> 00:50:28,859
the ops whole truth about things.
1100
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:30,485
And if you did, nobody would believe you 'cause
1101
00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:31,903
the government didn't tell the truth either.
1102
00:50:31,945 --> 00:50:33,113
- Of course.
1103
00:50:33,155 --> 00:50:34,823
- Well, so do you wanna see what we gotta go going upstairs?
1104
00:50:34,864 --> 00:50:35,990
- All right, I'd love to see it.
1105
00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:37,324
- All right, let's go do it.
1106
00:50:37,324 --> 00:50:39,869
(intense music)
1107
00:50:43,206 --> 00:50:46,168
- Every step we make towards finding out
1108
00:50:46,168 --> 00:50:49,211
what these Navy Tic Tac objects are about
1109
00:50:49,253 --> 00:50:53,759
is a step towards these guys' recovery in a way.
1110
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,847
In coming to terms with the event that changed their lives,
1111
00:51:00,014 --> 00:51:03,225
I feel, with this mission, we are uncovering
1112
00:51:03,268 --> 00:51:06,103
more and more pieces of the puzzle
1113
00:51:06,146 --> 00:51:09,858
that will hopefully someday bring some answers
1114
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,693
to these very strange events.
1115
00:51:14,862 --> 00:51:18,783
We are four days in the expedition, I am getting
1116
00:51:18,824 --> 00:51:22,036
really excited about the results we have so far.
1117
00:51:22,036 --> 00:51:24,038
Hopefully we'll have more tomorrow.
1118
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:26,625
Meanwhile, David Mason's inventions
1119
00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:29,669
that convert light to sound and sound to light
1120
00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:32,588
have been operational 24/7.
1121
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:35,925
They've been capturing the light that comes from objects
1122
00:51:35,967 --> 00:51:38,220
in the sky, and retransmitting
1123
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:42,099
the same pattern back to space nonstop.
1124
00:51:42,139 --> 00:51:45,309
I decided to give it a try, and see if we could capture
1125
00:51:45,351 --> 00:51:47,728
the sound of an anomalous object,
1126
00:51:47,771 --> 00:51:52,526
and broadcast our own music and sound back to them in space.
1127
00:51:55,778 --> 00:51:57,114
- So that's the object. - So which star is that?
1128
00:51:57,155 --> 00:52:00,117
- You're looking at Altair, so if you aim the goggles
1129
00:52:00,157 --> 00:52:01,951
and keep it in the center field of view,
1130
00:52:01,992 --> 00:52:02,744
- Right, right.
1131
00:52:02,786 --> 00:52:03,994
- Now you can hear it.
1132
00:52:04,036 --> 00:52:05,329
- Oh, yeah.
1133
00:52:05,371 --> 00:52:07,081
- [David] You can hear the rumble from it.
1134
00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:09,751
- Oh, there's an airplane.
1135
00:52:09,751 --> 00:52:12,420
Oh, I can hear the airplane, it's different.
1136
00:52:12,461 --> 00:52:13,755
(airplane zooming)
1137
00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:15,257
Can you see over there, over there, can you see?
1138
00:52:15,297 --> 00:52:16,590
It's getting a different sound.
1139
00:52:16,632 --> 00:52:19,135
- It looks like it could be a satellite.
1140
00:52:19,177 --> 00:52:22,764
- Oh wow, how cool. (laughs)
1141
00:52:22,806 --> 00:52:25,099
So is this the middle one, is that the visible light?
1142
00:52:25,141 --> 00:52:26,183
- Yes.
1143
00:52:26,976 --> 00:52:29,980
So we have two different types of music
1144
00:52:30,021 --> 00:52:32,315
being transmitted on two different spectrums.
1145
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,986
So it's kinda like radio stations
1146
00:52:36,027 --> 00:52:37,278
that have different frequencies.
1147
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,780
So that way we can separate 'em out
1148
00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:40,282
and just put out different data.
1149
00:52:41,782 --> 00:52:45,286
- I am blown away by David Mason's inventions.
1150
00:52:45,286 --> 00:52:49,165
If we are able to capture the sound of objects in the sky,
1151
00:52:49,206 --> 00:52:53,002
then we can potentially identify the acoustic pattern
1152
00:52:53,043 --> 00:52:56,297
of a UFO, which can give us more information
1153
00:52:56,338 --> 00:52:58,674
about the properties of these objects.
1154
00:52:58,717 --> 00:53:01,802
And the music that we broadcast can reach
1155
00:53:01,802 --> 00:53:05,139
all points in space, and potentially a UFO
1156
00:53:05,139 --> 00:53:08,976
would receive our music as a mode of communication,
1157
00:53:08,976 --> 00:53:11,312
and hopefully will attempt to communicate back
1158
00:53:11,353 --> 00:53:13,063
with us here on earth.
1159
00:53:13,106 --> 00:53:16,985
The only way to find out if this mode of communication works
1160
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:20,030
is to keep the devices running continuously,
1161
00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:22,656
and see if we can then correlate them
1162
00:53:22,657 --> 00:53:27,204
with an actual UFO siding in a measurable way.
1163
00:53:27,244 --> 00:53:29,038
That would be phenomenal.
1164
00:53:30,373 --> 00:53:34,043
- Day four, really tired, I hadn't been sleeping at all.
1165
00:53:34,085 --> 00:53:36,795
Other than that, we still got some more anomalous data
1166
00:53:36,838 --> 00:53:38,381
with the radiation detectors,
1167
00:53:38,422 --> 00:53:41,675
and we got the FLIRs going continuous still,
1168
00:53:41,717 --> 00:53:43,010
looking forward to tomorrow,
1169
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:45,179
I'm gonna go catch a couple hours of sleep.
1170
00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:47,932
(upbeat music)
1171
00:54:04,114 --> 00:54:06,033
- Tell me when Gary gets here, so lemme catch some sleep.
1172
00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:08,536
- Already here. - You're too late.
1173
00:54:08,577 --> 00:54:10,538
(laughing) Good morning.
1174
00:54:10,579 --> 00:54:11,789
- Morning.
1175
00:54:11,831 --> 00:54:13,124
That was all right.
1176
00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:14,751
Oh well, you still have to work.
1177
00:54:14,793 --> 00:54:16,878
Everything's starting to look up finally.
1178
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,128
- Yeah, that's good, bro.
1179
00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:19,630
That's really good.
1180
00:54:19,672 --> 00:54:21,215
- It's good for everybody except the neighbors.
1181
00:54:21,257 --> 00:54:23,009
They think our equipment can see through their walls.
1182
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:24,219
(Gary & Dave laughing)
1183
00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:25,552
- Yeah, when the police come in last night,
1184
00:54:25,594 --> 00:54:27,221
they were a little concerned at first,
1185
00:54:27,222 --> 00:54:29,224
but then once we showed 'em what we had going on,
1186
00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:32,686
it was like, man, he was intrigued.
1187
00:54:32,726 --> 00:54:34,270
- Yeah, it must have been interesting since they sent
1188
00:54:34,311 --> 00:54:36,897
the other two up here too. (laughing)
1189
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:38,233
At least they all had a good time.
1190
00:54:38,233 --> 00:54:39,567
- [Dave] That's true, that's true.
1191
00:54:39,608 --> 00:54:41,068
All right, man, let's get to work.
1192
00:54:41,110 --> 00:54:41,987
- Let's get to work.
1193
00:54:42,027 --> 00:54:43,279
- How come it's always radiation
1194
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,154
and they're never bringing coffee?
1195
00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:45,490
- Well. - Well, you know.
1196
00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:51,245
- Hey, we got an anomalous event for you to check out.
1197
00:54:51,288 --> 00:54:52,204
- Did it show up on FLIR?
1198
00:54:52,246 --> 00:54:53,289
- No, but you know what?
1199
00:54:53,331 --> 00:54:54,624
I think you can help us with it.
1200
00:54:54,666 --> 00:54:57,294
- Check it out, goes all the way down the coast,
1201
00:54:57,335 --> 00:55:00,213
turns around, tracks back up, that little black dot is us.
1202
00:55:01,463 --> 00:55:02,840
- Wait, what's on that orange path?
1203
00:55:02,882 --> 00:55:03,758
Is that-
1204
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,135
- That's the flight path.
1205
00:55:05,175 --> 00:55:06,427
The historical flight path going down, coming back out,
1206
00:55:06,427 --> 00:55:08,304
veering out right over our roof.
1207
00:55:08,346 --> 00:55:10,431
- Oh, is that a helicopter?
1208
00:55:10,472 --> 00:55:12,976
- (laughing) Yeah it's not a- - Helicopter
1209
00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:14,101
- It's a helicopter. - Yeah.
1210
00:55:14,101 --> 00:55:14,978
- But wait is-
1211
00:55:15,019 --> 00:55:16,646
- Just messing with you man.
1212
00:55:16,688 --> 00:55:18,273
- Couldn't this be copy as espionage?
1213
00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:19,983
- I called the company-
1214
00:55:20,025 --> 00:55:21,776
- (crosstalk) much of a corporation yet.
1215
00:55:21,775 --> 00:55:24,153
That's a video of it going over the top of us.
1216
00:55:24,195 --> 00:55:25,113
- That's crazy.
1217
00:55:25,155 --> 00:55:26,156
- Yeah.
1218
00:55:26,197 --> 00:55:26,990
Get back to work, man.
1219
00:55:28,032 --> 00:55:28,782
- All right.
1220
00:55:28,824 --> 00:55:29,616
- So Gary?
1221
00:55:29,617 --> 00:55:30,285
- Yeah.
1222
00:55:30,284 --> 00:55:31,201
- Navy guy walks into a bar.
1223
00:55:31,244 --> 00:55:32,746
He's got a three-foot salami under one arm
1224
00:55:32,786 --> 00:55:33,788
and a poodle under the other.
1225
00:55:33,788 --> 00:55:35,289
- Yep, sounds like a good time.
1226
00:55:35,289 --> 00:55:38,208
(cheerful music)
1227
00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:46,843
- This has been hard, because it's a huge amount of work,
1228
00:55:46,885 --> 00:55:49,888
a huge amount of data and equipment,
1229
00:55:49,929 --> 00:55:54,017
but I'm getting really excited because David Mason tells me,
1230
00:55:54,059 --> 00:55:56,311
he recorded a flurry
1231
00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:59,146
of raining objects falling down from the sky.
1232
00:55:59,188 --> 00:56:01,482
(air whooshing)
1233
00:56:01,523 --> 00:56:05,694
Kevin Day said at one point it was raining Tic Tacs.
1234
00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:08,280
I don't know if these are the same raining Tic Tacs
1235
00:56:08,322 --> 00:56:10,824
that Kevin Day was talking about,
1236
00:56:10,824 --> 00:56:13,160
but it sure sounds very intriguing,
1237
00:56:13,202 --> 00:56:15,204
and I can't wait to find out.
1238
00:56:16,581 --> 00:56:18,166
- What do you guys got?
1239
00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:19,793
- We've got something really interesting here, Gary.
1240
00:56:19,833 --> 00:56:20,918
Now watch the screen.
1241
00:56:22,211 --> 00:56:24,338
What we have is objects that appear to be dropping
1242
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:26,173
from the sky and, you see that?
1243
00:56:26,215 --> 00:56:28,384
It's just there momentarily and looks like
1244
00:56:28,425 --> 00:56:31,261
they're actually dropping into the ocean.
1245
00:56:31,304 --> 00:56:32,555
- That's crazy.
1246
00:56:32,597 --> 00:56:33,681
- And I've looked at this and I'm think
1247
00:56:33,681 --> 00:56:36,184
could this be a camera artifact?
1248
00:56:36,184 --> 00:56:39,019
However, there's a transition of decay time.
1249
00:56:39,061 --> 00:56:40,355
So this is very strange.
1250
00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:43,650
- So could these be like ice forming and dropping
1251
00:56:43,690 --> 00:56:45,359
into the water or, I mean.
1252
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,320
- No, because what we're also seeing is it's transitioning
1253
00:56:48,362 --> 00:56:51,490
where it's appearing in the field of view momentarily,
1254
00:56:51,532 --> 00:56:53,076
and then disappearing,
1255
00:56:53,117 --> 00:56:55,619
but it's clearly having a trajectory that's downward.
1256
00:56:55,661 --> 00:56:57,371
- I'm seeing 'em come in and then out,
1257
00:56:57,414 --> 00:56:59,332
and then in again when they hit the water.
1258
00:56:59,373 --> 00:57:00,500
- It looks like they hit the water.
1259
00:57:00,541 --> 00:57:02,626
Looks like they illuminate in the water.
1260
00:57:02,668 --> 00:57:03,877
- [Gary] That's amazing.
1261
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,088
- [Mathew] Does this remind you of anything?
1262
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,381
- Sure does.
1263
00:57:06,422 --> 00:57:08,090
It reminds me of the Tic Tacs from '04.
1264
00:57:08,132 --> 00:57:12,010
They would go from 28,000 feet down the sea level like that,
1265
00:57:12,052 --> 00:57:14,263
I mean just straight down, just like that.
1266
00:57:14,304 --> 00:57:18,225
- I first saw the first group of those, whatever they were
1267
00:57:18,268 --> 00:57:22,271
on the 10th of November and the intercept
1268
00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:25,066
with FASTGO flight happened on the 14th.
1269
00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:26,901
And I continued to see these things up until
1270
00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:29,571
about the 19th of November.
1271
00:57:29,612 --> 00:57:32,115
And they were always in groups of five to 10.
1272
00:57:32,157 --> 00:57:34,242
But if you were to add up all the groups,
1273
00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:36,411
there was about 100 of these objects.
1274
00:57:36,411 --> 00:57:38,413
- There were dozens of such tracks like this,
1275
00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:41,123
which correlate not only with high energies,
1276
00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:43,876
but also high rates in the cosmic watch.
1277
00:57:43,918 --> 00:57:47,130
- After we examined the videos that we recorded,
1278
00:57:47,172 --> 00:57:49,798
we were able to calculate the size of the objects based
1279
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,554
on the camera field of view and the distance of the horizon.
1280
00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:59,224
We found that the objects were at least four feet across,
1281
00:57:59,266 --> 00:58:02,102
and falling at least at 5,000 miles an hour,
1282
00:58:02,144 --> 00:58:05,773
and the objects that were distant were measured out
1283
00:58:05,815 --> 00:58:09,652
at 69 feet across, and falling at a speed
1284
00:58:09,693 --> 00:58:12,322
of at least 84,000 miles per hour.
1285
00:58:12,362 --> 00:58:16,451
So even if we were off in calculations by 50%,
1286
00:58:16,492 --> 00:58:19,536
we have some extraordinary numbers that can't explain
1287
00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:22,874
this phenomenon as being something natural or known.
1288
00:58:24,041 --> 00:58:25,585
- Hey, you guys, what are you up to?
1289
00:58:25,626 --> 00:58:28,505
- They're showing me some basically objects falling
1290
00:58:28,545 --> 00:58:30,172
from the sky to the ocean.
1291
00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,509
They found some correlating data
1292
00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:36,846
with the radiation detection, and I mean, honestly,
1293
00:58:36,887 --> 00:58:39,973
it reminds me of the stuff we were seeing in '04.
1294
00:58:40,016 --> 00:58:41,809
- Wow! Tic Tacs?
1295
00:58:41,851 --> 00:58:42,977
It maybe Tic Tacs?
1296
00:58:43,018 --> 00:58:44,311
- [Gary] Maybe.
1297
00:58:44,311 --> 00:58:45,103
- [Caroline] Caught on our cameras?
1298
00:58:45,146 --> 00:58:46,356
That's incredible.
1299
00:58:46,396 --> 00:58:47,773
- I mean, the fade out makes it look like
1300
00:58:47,815 --> 00:58:50,818
it is really something dropping from the sky,
1301
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:53,363
based on the way it fades out.
1302
00:58:53,403 --> 00:58:54,697
- That's great.
1303
00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:56,865
Wow, we got a lot of stuff actually.
1304
00:58:56,907 --> 00:58:58,492
- [Gary] Honestly, I'm very surprised
1305
00:58:58,534 --> 00:58:59,409
about everything that we've got.
1306
00:58:59,452 --> 00:59:01,287
- You know, David yesterday,
1307
00:59:01,329 --> 00:59:03,831
we were doing all the night vision stuff.
1308
00:59:03,873 --> 00:59:06,041
- We just continuously broadcast
1309
00:59:06,083 --> 00:59:09,044
this over ultraviolet spectrum and white spectrum
1310
00:59:09,086 --> 00:59:10,338
and infrared spectrum.
1311
00:59:10,338 --> 00:59:11,839
- So let's say we've provoked it.
1312
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,673
- We provoked it.
1313
00:59:12,673 --> 00:59:15,009
(Caroline laughing)
1314
00:59:15,009 --> 00:59:18,346
We have recorded objects falling down from the sky
1315
00:59:18,387 --> 00:59:21,014
at extraordinary speed that seem
1316
00:59:21,056 --> 00:59:24,768
to have similar characteristics as the raining Tic Tacs
1317
00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:27,771
that Kevin Day witnessed in 2004.
1318
00:59:27,813 --> 00:59:31,525
Our measurements of their size and speed also fall
1319
00:59:31,568 --> 00:59:34,528
within the same range as the findings made
1320
00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:37,864
by the scientific coalition of UAP studies,
1321
00:59:37,907 --> 00:59:42,327
as well as Dr. Knuth's scientific paper, "Entropy."
1322
00:59:42,369 --> 00:59:46,540
These in depth scientific analysis of the Navy Tic Tacs,
1323
00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:50,420
details similar estimated size and velocities
1324
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:53,880
in the tens of thousands of miles per hour,
1325
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,552
just like the objects we have captured on our FLIR cameras.
1326
00:59:58,552 --> 01:00:00,721
We are getting more validation
1327
01:00:00,722 --> 01:00:03,432
from other legitimate organizations
1328
01:00:03,474 --> 01:00:07,562
about potential UAP properties, which is exactly
1329
01:00:07,561 --> 01:00:12,232
what is needed for this level of rigorous research.
1330
01:00:14,527 --> 01:00:17,447
- So what kind of category do we think these things are?
1331
01:00:17,487 --> 01:00:20,115
Are they physical objects, a natural phenomena,
1332
01:00:20,157 --> 01:00:22,534
or are they mental manifestations?
1333
01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:24,621
Are we all imagining seeing these things?
1334
01:00:24,661 --> 01:00:25,621
I doubt that because we measure
1335
01:00:25,663 --> 01:00:27,081
with scientific instruments, right?
1336
01:00:27,123 --> 01:00:28,583
- Right.
1337
01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:30,335
We're not all being hacked, and spoofed on this.
1338
01:00:30,376 --> 01:00:31,586
- Yeah.
1339
01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:33,630
- So my thoughts are, it is from some
1340
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:37,759
sort of intelligent creation and intelligent construction,
1341
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,094
meaning it's a technological device.
1342
01:00:40,135 --> 01:00:42,429
It could be organic, it could be electromagnetic,
1343
01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:44,098
could be who knows what?
1344
01:00:44,139 --> 01:00:48,393
- On this hand it's ours, and on this hand, it's not ours.
1345
01:00:48,436 --> 01:00:50,605
And the answer lies somewhere in between.
1346
01:00:50,646 --> 01:00:52,731
So my mind right now is open.
1347
01:00:52,773 --> 01:00:54,650
If it turns out to be our stuff
1348
01:00:54,692 --> 01:00:56,818
or some other country's stuff, I'm good with that.
1349
01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:58,695
Okay, I have my answer.
1350
01:00:58,737 --> 01:01:01,657
If it turns out to be something not from this planet,
1351
01:01:01,699 --> 01:01:02,617
I'm good with that too.
1352
01:01:02,617 --> 01:01:03,993
Okay, I have my answer now.
1353
01:01:04,034 --> 01:01:08,498
- That stuff, knowledge, information, engineering,
1354
01:01:08,539 --> 01:01:10,917
that right now, to my knowledge,
1355
01:01:10,958 --> 01:01:13,001
nobody on this planet knows how to do it.
1356
01:01:13,835 --> 01:01:15,045
- Right. - Right?
1357
01:01:15,088 --> 01:01:17,548
So that suggests that it's somebody from
1358
01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:21,260
some other place has done this, or maybe other time.
1359
01:01:21,302 --> 01:01:23,387
- And I think that's an important point.
1360
01:01:23,429 --> 01:01:26,139
You mentioned earlier, the multiple cases,
1361
01:01:26,139 --> 01:01:27,683
you mentioned the Bassoon case.
1362
01:01:27,724 --> 01:01:31,061
That's from 1951, and you've got these objects moving
1363
01:01:31,103 --> 01:01:34,231
at very high accelerations and taking off at high speeds.
1364
01:01:34,273 --> 01:01:36,150
The pilot estimated it is leaving
1365
01:01:36,192 --> 01:01:40,028
at about 1500 miles an hour, and it was tracked on radar
1366
01:01:40,070 --> 01:01:42,949
from Newfoundland at 1800 miles an hour.
1367
01:01:42,989 --> 01:01:46,743
This is two years before the air speed record
1368
01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:50,039
of 695 miles an hour was broken.
1369
01:01:50,081 --> 01:01:52,541
So this thing was moving three or four times faster
1370
01:01:52,583 --> 01:01:54,168
than the air speed record.
1371
01:01:54,168 --> 01:01:56,671
- They're also now declassified reports thanks to FOIA,
1372
01:01:56,670 --> 01:01:59,339
mentioning flying white butane tanks.
1373
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:01,425
That sounds like a lot like a Tic Tac to me.
1374
01:02:01,467 --> 01:02:03,010
And that was the late '40s early '50s.
1375
01:02:03,052 --> 01:02:04,679
Well, let me put this in perspective,
1376
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:09,726
Einstein, Rosen and Polski came up with these concepts
1377
01:02:10,726 --> 01:02:14,688
in the 1905 timeframe, into later about 1913.
1378
01:02:14,688 --> 01:02:18,400
So in about 100 years, is all that humanity
1379
01:02:18,443 --> 01:02:22,530
has had a basic construct to say,
1380
01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:26,033
faster than like travel, worm holes, warp drives,
1381
01:02:26,032 --> 01:02:27,576
are even possible.
1382
01:02:27,617 --> 01:02:32,331
And it wasn't until 1994 that someone was clever enough,
1383
01:02:33,583 --> 01:02:37,043
Alcubierre came up with the warp physics that says,
1384
01:02:37,043 --> 01:02:40,505
"Okay, well the physics we've learned since 1905 tells us,"
1385
01:02:40,547 --> 01:02:42,132
okay, maybe it is possible to do what they do
1386
01:02:42,175 --> 01:02:44,594
in Star Trek and other science fiction, movies and books,
1387
01:02:44,635 --> 01:02:47,430
but that's only 100 to 120 years.
1388
01:02:47,472 --> 01:02:48,556
- Yeah.
1389
01:02:48,597 --> 01:02:49,724
- Not thousands not millions. - The universe
1390
01:02:49,724 --> 01:02:51,726
is 13.7 billion years old.
1391
01:02:51,726 --> 01:02:54,019
There's a civilization somewhere near us
1392
01:02:54,061 --> 01:02:55,855
that's thousands of years old.
1393
01:02:55,896 --> 01:02:59,232
Their Einstein was 10,000 years ago, for example.
1394
01:02:59,233 --> 01:03:01,318
So where does that put them now?
1395
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,403
- What if you have multiple civilizations
1396
01:03:03,445 --> 01:03:04,739
and they have different technologies?
1397
01:03:04,739 --> 01:03:05,740
'Cause they use different things.
1398
01:03:05,739 --> 01:03:07,324
- Of course they do.
1399
01:03:07,365 --> 01:03:09,117
The other thing that happens is, space gets compressed,
1400
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:10,452
makes the distances shorter.
1401
01:03:10,494 --> 01:03:11,746
Space isn't empty.
1402
01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:14,749
You've got about one hydrogen atom per cubic meter.
1403
01:03:14,748 --> 01:03:16,625
So as you compress space at very high speeds,
1404
01:03:16,666 --> 01:03:18,543
you're no longer flying through a vacuum,
1405
01:03:18,585 --> 01:03:19,753
you're flying through a cloud.
1406
01:03:19,753 --> 01:03:21,255
At close to the speed of light,
1407
01:03:21,255 --> 01:03:23,758
it's gonna rip your ship apart in no time,
1408
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,553
unless you have a technology that allows you
1409
01:03:27,594 --> 01:03:29,805
to travel through matter without affecting it,
1410
01:03:29,847 --> 01:03:31,766
like we actually see here with-
1411
01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:33,643
- That is an excellent point. - With crafts moving
1412
01:03:33,684 --> 01:03:35,269
through the air without sonic booms
1413
01:03:35,311 --> 01:03:36,938
or moving through water without splashes.
1414
01:03:36,978 --> 01:03:38,605
We observed that. - That's the other counter
1415
01:03:38,606 --> 01:03:39,607
that's always given. - That's always data.
1416
01:03:39,648 --> 01:03:41,817
(air whooshing)
1417
01:03:41,858 --> 01:03:44,778
- We made it guys, we got a lot of great data,
1418
01:03:44,778 --> 01:03:46,697
and I just wanted to let you guys know,
1419
01:03:47,989 --> 01:03:50,450
I'm very proud of the way that you guys have performed
1420
01:03:50,451 --> 01:03:53,663
above and beyond any expectations I could have ever had.
1421
01:03:54,914 --> 01:03:58,167
We got some great results, and let's start getting ready
1422
01:03:58,208 --> 01:03:59,793
for the next one.
1423
01:03:59,793 --> 01:04:02,295
(bouncy music)
1424
01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:09,804
- The past days have been very hard and very exciting.
1425
01:04:09,804 --> 01:04:13,307
We managed to capture multiple anomalies
1426
01:04:13,306 --> 01:04:18,311
in multiple locations, across multiple devices in real time.
1427
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,440
This is a first in the field of ufology.
1428
01:04:22,483 --> 01:04:24,360
What are the odds that we would capture
1429
01:04:24,402 --> 01:04:26,820
the exact Navy Tic Tacs
1430
01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:30,532
that these guys saw over their ship in 2004?
1431
01:04:30,574 --> 01:04:33,660
Now it's up to the scientists to continue analyzing
1432
01:04:33,702 --> 01:04:37,498
the data over the next few weeks, and tell us more
1433
01:04:37,539 --> 01:04:39,833
about the properties of these objects
1434
01:04:39,833 --> 01:04:43,336
and what this phenomenon is really about.
1435
01:04:43,378 --> 01:04:45,964
(intense music)
1436
01:05:01,021 --> 01:05:01,813
- That's right.
1437
01:05:01,856 --> 01:05:03,816
- Hey guys, we made it.
1438
01:05:03,858 --> 01:05:05,276
- Hey, glad You're here.
1439
01:05:05,318 --> 01:05:06,694
You're gonna need to sit down for this,
1440
01:05:06,735 --> 01:05:07,944
'cause it's pretty mind blowing.
1441
01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:09,363
- Wow. - So grab a seat.
1442
01:05:09,405 --> 01:05:11,324
- Okay, we want anomalies.
1443
01:05:11,364 --> 01:05:12,532
Is this very different?
1444
01:05:12,574 --> 01:05:14,910
- Yeah, and the story starts with a list
1445
01:05:14,952 --> 01:05:17,872
of anomalous events in the cosmic watch.
1446
01:05:17,871 --> 01:05:21,207
So I made a list of all events that were
1447
01:05:21,208 --> 01:05:24,878
either high in energy, high in rate or both.
1448
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,925
So the highest energy we recorded in the cosmic watch
1449
01:05:31,552 --> 01:05:36,557
was 43.37 mega electron volts, MeV.
1450
01:05:37,891 --> 01:05:39,434
So that's the highest we recorded the entire week.
1451
01:05:39,476 --> 01:05:42,270
It's sort of like the maximum for terrestrial radiation,
1452
01:05:42,313 --> 01:05:44,398
Two MeVs more, average.
1453
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,942
- Oh wow.
1454
01:05:45,983 --> 01:05:47,777
- That high energy event I just mentioned was at 4:01 A.M.
1455
01:05:47,818 --> 01:05:49,403
- Right.
1456
01:05:49,402 --> 01:05:52,864
- At 3:59 A.M, this is what the UFODAP recorded.
1457
01:05:52,907 --> 01:05:55,201
There's a hole in the clouds, which,
1458
01:05:55,242 --> 01:05:57,411
it's not abnormal to have a hole in the clouds
1459
01:05:57,452 --> 01:06:02,458
that closes, but notice those strange dots within it.
1460
01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:05,795
And also if you go frame by frame,
1461
01:06:05,835 --> 01:06:07,837
it closes in a fraction of a second.
1462
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,343
That seems to be too fast for natural cloud formations.
1463
01:06:12,385 --> 01:06:14,345
- For clouds to move in and close the hole,
1464
01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:15,763
they would've had to be going something
1465
01:06:15,762 --> 01:06:17,014
like 700 miles an hour.
1466
01:06:17,056 --> 01:06:18,264
- How far away was it?
1467
01:06:18,306 --> 01:06:19,474
- Yeah, I can show you a diagram,
1468
01:06:19,516 --> 01:06:21,476
I've made of the situation.
1469
01:06:21,518 --> 01:06:22,852
Yeah, so it's basic trigonometry,
1470
01:06:22,894 --> 01:06:25,940
we're using the known angles, so we know which direction
1471
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:29,985
the camera's aiming, we know the field of view of the camera
1472
01:06:30,027 --> 01:06:34,949
and that hole was about 18 degrees above the horizon.
1473
01:06:34,990 --> 01:06:37,951
And so given a cloud ceiling of about 1700 feet,
1474
01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:39,662
you can say that that hole was
1475
01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:43,289
about 1.2 kilometers off the coast.
1476
01:06:43,289 --> 01:06:44,333
And so it's an elliptical hole.
1477
01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:45,291
- Okay. - It's
1478
01:06:45,291 --> 01:06:47,877
about 0.4 kilometers long,
1479
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,463
and then about 0.1 kilometers wide.
1480
01:06:50,463 --> 01:06:52,757
It looks like it's a hole in the clouds,
1481
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,885
or it could be a false streak cloud.
1482
01:06:54,927 --> 01:06:57,847
Those typically happen when you have
1483
01:06:57,887 --> 01:07:00,849
very high altitude clouds and a section
1484
01:07:00,891 --> 01:07:03,811
of the cloud that then spontaneously freezes
1485
01:07:03,853 --> 01:07:05,688
and then the crystals fall out
1486
01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:07,690
and leaves a hole in the cloud.
1487
01:07:07,731 --> 01:07:11,152
That isn't possible in this case because the cloud ceiling
1488
01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:13,653
was only 1700 feet and it wasn't cold enough
1489
01:07:13,653 --> 01:07:15,947
for it to be that kind of cloud.
1490
01:07:15,989 --> 01:07:18,533
A hole like that could also be explained from
1491
01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:22,371
an airplane or another aircraft flying through the clouds.
1492
01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:24,206
That can cause a hole as well.
1493
01:07:24,248 --> 01:07:26,708
We didn't have any aircraft going through at the time,
1494
01:07:26,751 --> 01:07:30,504
and the UFODAP cameras didn't pick up any craft.
1495
01:07:30,503 --> 01:07:33,007
Now the cameras did start recording because
1496
01:07:33,007 --> 01:07:34,675
they detected something.
1497
01:07:34,675 --> 01:07:39,013
- But when Jeremy slowed it down, there's also a new dot
1498
01:07:39,012 --> 01:07:40,889
that appears in the last couple frames.
1499
01:07:40,931 --> 01:07:43,684
- [Jeremy] Yeah, there are a few dots appearing, yeah.
1500
01:07:43,726 --> 01:07:44,894
- Yeah, there's one fresh,
1501
01:07:44,934 --> 01:07:47,855
there's one lonely fresh dot that appears.
1502
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,523
- Did you check the radiation data
1503
01:07:50,523 --> 01:07:52,650
with any outside organizations?
1504
01:07:52,693 --> 01:07:55,028
- We did, we looked at the data from Fermi
1505
01:07:55,028 --> 01:07:59,365
the NASA spacecraft that looks at gamma-ray bursts
1506
01:07:59,365 --> 01:08:01,159
from distant astrophysical phenomenon,
1507
01:08:01,202 --> 01:08:02,995
there's no correlation there.
1508
01:08:03,036 --> 01:08:06,664
We did have to check also for solar activity.
1509
01:08:06,706 --> 01:08:10,710
This event is not correlated with the solar activity.
1510
01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:13,213
- So what about the FLIR?
1511
01:08:13,213 --> 01:08:14,882
Anything with the FLIR?
1512
01:08:14,882 --> 01:08:17,967
- Unfortunately, the FLIR about seven minutes before
1513
01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:22,556
this event took place, all eight FLIR cameras shut down.
1514
01:08:22,555 --> 01:08:23,890
We lost power.
1515
01:08:23,932 --> 01:08:26,560
And power was distributed from two different sources.
1516
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,895
- I don't think it's a coincidence though.
1517
01:08:27,936 --> 01:08:30,314
This really bothers me, 'cause it reminds me of
1518
01:08:30,355 --> 01:08:33,567
how the phenomenon is often associated
1519
01:08:33,609 --> 01:08:37,696
with electromagnetic anomalies that cause things
1520
01:08:37,738 --> 01:08:41,408
to break, cars to turn off, and things like that.
1521
01:08:41,408 --> 01:08:46,122
That I think it's really convenient that the FLIR went down.
1522
01:08:46,162 --> 01:08:49,750
- How about the people who would say, well, maybe there's
1523
01:08:49,750 --> 01:08:52,043
something malfunctioning with the camera?
1524
01:08:52,086 --> 01:08:53,587
What would you say to that?
1525
01:08:53,628 --> 01:08:56,923
- We actually have, several minutes before the video
1526
01:08:56,923 --> 01:08:59,926
we looked at, we have another video that doesn't have
1527
01:08:59,969 --> 01:09:03,139
the speckles, but has the hole, several minutes before,
1528
01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:06,809
but then even better, we have the entire week's worth
1529
01:09:06,850 --> 01:09:09,936
of UFODAP video and imagery,
1530
01:09:09,936 --> 01:09:12,105
where it's functioning perfectly.
1531
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:14,984
It's triggering on birds, it's triggering on planes,
1532
01:09:15,024 --> 01:09:17,944
and it even has a built-in classification system
1533
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:19,779
where it says percentage probability,
1534
01:09:19,822 --> 01:09:21,282
it's a plane or a bird.
1535
01:09:21,282 --> 01:09:25,119
Not only that, we also have direct controls
1536
01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:29,623
from a nearly identical part of the sky, day and time,
1537
01:09:29,622 --> 01:09:31,250
no hole, just clouds
1538
01:09:31,292 --> 01:09:33,794
and the cameras functioning perfectly normally.
1539
01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:37,631
So there's just too many strange coincidences here,
1540
01:09:37,631 --> 01:09:40,467
with all the different events that stack together.
1541
01:09:40,466 --> 01:09:43,136
I mean, it's really easy to take one video and say
1542
01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:45,806
it's this or that, or it's not really anomalous 'cause
1543
01:09:45,805 --> 01:09:48,308
it can be anything, but it can't be anything.
1544
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:50,019
Because we've done these calculations,
1545
01:09:50,060 --> 01:09:51,937
and we have these correlations.
1546
01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:53,063
So it's extremely unlikely
1547
01:09:53,104 --> 01:09:55,315
that it was a malfunction in the camera.
1548
01:09:55,315 --> 01:09:57,193
- Was there any correlative data with
1549
01:09:57,234 --> 01:09:59,612
like weather radar or anything like that?
1550
01:09:59,653 --> 01:10:02,280
- Yeah, we were able to obtain weather radar
1551
01:10:02,323 --> 01:10:06,035
just before four o'clock, you see a large clump
1552
01:10:06,076 --> 01:10:09,496
of area where you have a lot of turbulence,
1553
01:10:09,537 --> 01:10:13,666
and so this is correlated with the presence of that hole.
1554
01:10:13,708 --> 01:10:15,043
The radar shows that there
1555
01:10:15,085 --> 01:10:18,338
was actually reflective objects in the area.
1556
01:10:18,338 --> 01:10:20,882
High energy particles in gamma-rays would've bombarded
1557
01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:24,011
the entire CCD chip on the camera, resulting in spots,
1558
01:10:24,052 --> 01:10:26,346
uniformly spread across the image.
1559
01:10:26,346 --> 01:10:28,681
As a result, these really appear to be physical objects
1560
01:10:28,724 --> 01:10:30,266
somehow appearing or materializing
1561
01:10:30,309 --> 01:10:32,228
in the hole in the clouds.
1562
01:10:32,269 --> 01:10:34,939
The radar returns suggests that we are seeing the objects
1563
01:10:34,979 --> 01:10:36,773
through the hole in the clouds at a distance
1564
01:10:36,814 --> 01:10:38,858
of about five kilometers away.
1565
01:10:38,859 --> 01:10:42,863
Thus, the objects are most likely about 35 to 50 defeat
1566
01:10:42,904 --> 01:10:47,201
in size, which is the estimated size of the Tic Tac objects
1567
01:10:47,201 --> 01:10:49,286
in the 2004 Nimitz encounter.
1568
01:10:49,328 --> 01:10:50,120
- [Caroline] Wow.
1569
01:10:51,872 --> 01:10:55,876
- If you have something anomalous in different devices
1570
01:10:55,917 --> 01:11:00,046
at the same time, that reduces the probability.
1571
01:11:00,088 --> 01:11:04,051
This is why for example, I've never bought to the claims
1572
01:11:04,092 --> 01:11:07,179
that the, "Oh, the Nimitz encounter, that was just,
1573
01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:08,513
the radar didn't work."
1574
01:11:08,555 --> 01:11:11,809
So then the pilot's eyes were also deceiving them
1575
01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:15,729
at the exact same time the radar wasn't working properly?
1576
01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:18,065
And the radar wasn't working properly
1577
01:11:18,064 --> 01:11:20,567
at the exact same time the FLIR cameras wasn't.
1578
01:11:20,567 --> 01:11:25,530
It's just so absurd to claim that multiple devices
1579
01:11:25,572 --> 01:11:27,992
and multiple different imaging modalities
1580
01:11:28,033 --> 01:11:31,996
were all conveniently malfunctioning at the same time,
1581
01:11:32,037 --> 01:11:34,039
telling you the same thing?
1582
01:11:34,081 --> 01:11:35,582
That is absolutely insane.
1583
01:11:35,623 --> 01:11:39,627
- Well with all this, well, what is it?
1584
01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:43,215
- Because of how it looks like a hole that is open
1585
01:11:43,256 --> 01:11:45,884
and then closing, we've called it a wormhole,
1586
01:11:45,926 --> 01:11:49,471
which got me obviously extremely excited.
1587
01:11:49,512 --> 01:11:51,140
However, we have to be careful because
1588
01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:54,183
that would be obviously a major scientific discovery
1589
01:11:54,225 --> 01:11:56,353
that would require a great deal more evidence
1590
01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:58,188
than what we have.
1591
01:11:58,229 --> 01:12:01,774
Worst case, if it's not something tied in
1592
01:12:01,817 --> 01:12:04,278
with our main goal, looking for evidence
1593
01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:07,113
of non-human intelligence, this is a new phenomenon
1594
01:12:07,113 --> 01:12:08,823
that's no one's ever discovered.
1595
01:12:08,865 --> 01:12:13,871
This is an unidentified, unclassified new phenomenon.
1596
01:12:15,372 --> 01:12:18,042
- We are adding to the UAP, (laughing) unidentified.
1597
01:12:18,082 --> 01:12:23,129
- We're adding lexicon of unidentified objects.
1598
01:12:23,421 --> 01:12:24,672
- Wow.
1599
01:12:24,715 --> 01:12:26,257
- I forgot who it was who stated,
1600
01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:29,427
"Most scientific discoveries don't begin with Eureka,
1601
01:12:29,470 --> 01:12:30,971
they begin with, 'Huh'."
1602
01:12:31,012 --> 01:12:31,805
(team laughing)
1603
01:12:31,805 --> 01:12:33,015
- Exactly.
1604
01:12:33,056 --> 01:12:34,349
That's exactly what we have here.
1605
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:37,226
- It's one of those, "Huh, what the heck is that moment?"
1606
01:12:37,269 --> 01:12:39,855
(air whooshing)
1607
01:12:43,524 --> 01:12:46,277
(somber music)
1608
01:13:00,208 --> 01:13:03,295
- I think that interstellar travel's one of those things
1609
01:13:03,337 --> 01:13:07,049
that is not impossible, it's just really hard.
1610
01:13:07,091 --> 01:13:08,342
And it's not impossible,
1611
01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:10,802
even with the laws of physics as we know them.
1612
01:13:10,844 --> 01:13:14,390
What's so fascinating is that when I was six years old,
1613
01:13:14,430 --> 01:13:17,183
I thought that wormholes were real,
1614
01:13:17,225 --> 01:13:19,394
for interstellar transportation.
1615
01:13:19,435 --> 01:13:21,479
I called of them portals at the time.
1616
01:13:21,521 --> 01:13:24,524
They're, what got me dreaming of becoming a physicist.
1617
01:13:24,565 --> 01:13:28,487
And here we are today, we are turning science fiction
1618
01:13:28,529 --> 01:13:30,239
into real science.
1619
01:13:30,279 --> 01:13:32,073
We could be heading towards the biggest,
1620
01:13:32,115 --> 01:13:35,034
"See, I told you so," in history.
1621
01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:38,372
- In 1935, Einstein wrote a paper with his student,
1622
01:13:38,413 --> 01:13:43,210
Nathan Rosen, creating the Einstein-Rosen Bridge,
1623
01:13:43,210 --> 01:13:45,421
a bridge that in principle could allow you
1624
01:13:45,462 --> 01:13:47,423
to break the light barrier.
1625
01:13:47,463 --> 01:13:50,884
Take a black hole, which basically looks like a funnel,
1626
01:13:50,884 --> 01:13:53,261
and put two of them back to back.
1627
01:13:53,302 --> 01:13:56,722
Stick the two funnels together, and you now have a gateway
1628
01:13:56,722 --> 01:13:58,434
between two universes.
1629
01:13:58,475 --> 01:14:00,102
That would allow you in principle,
1630
01:14:00,144 --> 01:14:03,021
to go faster than the speed of light.
1631
01:14:03,063 --> 01:14:05,274
These are wormholes.
1632
01:14:05,314 --> 01:14:06,692
And are they possible?
1633
01:14:06,733 --> 01:14:08,360
Yes, but you would have
1634
01:14:08,402 --> 01:14:11,779
to be a very advanced civilization to do this.
1635
01:14:11,822 --> 01:14:12,864
- What we're seeing are things
1636
01:14:12,905 --> 01:14:16,076
that I think transient reality,
1637
01:14:16,118 --> 01:14:21,123
I come personally, to an area of multidimensional realities
1638
01:14:22,248 --> 01:14:25,126
of some kind that cross over periodically.
1639
01:14:25,168 --> 01:14:29,422
When they are here, the thing is just as physical,
1640
01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:33,760
when it's crossed over, it's physically there.
1641
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,012
But when they separate again, it's not.
1642
01:14:36,054 --> 01:14:38,931
So when you ask the questions, where did it go?
1643
01:14:38,974 --> 01:14:41,435
Where, is not even the right question.
1644
01:14:41,476 --> 01:14:44,563
But it's very hard for us to contemplate things
1645
01:14:44,604 --> 01:14:47,440
that precipitate into physical reality
1646
01:14:48,442 --> 01:14:51,319
and then dissipate into apparent nothingness.
1647
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,654
There's got to be other life forms out there,
1648
01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:57,159
it's my view that there are multiple phenomena
1649
01:14:57,201 --> 01:14:59,453
that are all interrelated.
1650
01:15:01,204 --> 01:15:03,748
- At the end of the day, we're trying to understand
1651
01:15:03,789 --> 01:15:05,792
the nature of our reality.
1652
01:15:05,833 --> 01:15:09,796
How things could be possible when they seem
1653
01:15:09,837 --> 01:15:13,341
to defy the laws of physics, as we know them today.
1654
01:15:13,382 --> 01:15:17,136
Our consciousness is entangled with space itself,
1655
01:15:17,136 --> 01:15:19,430
with everything that we witness.
1656
01:15:19,472 --> 01:15:22,475
But we can't deny an experience once we have it.
1657
01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:25,645
So perhaps our fascination with the mystery of UAPs,
1658
01:15:25,645 --> 01:15:29,815
could these be an extraterrestrial life form visiting us?
1659
01:15:29,858 --> 01:15:31,485
How are they getting here?
1660
01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:35,905
It is perhaps a way for us to understand who we really are,
1661
01:15:35,948 --> 01:15:39,535
how we fit within the bigger picture
1662
01:15:39,576 --> 01:15:42,954
in the cosmic map of the universe.
1663
01:15:42,996 --> 01:15:45,414
- What's a few thousand years to a galaxy
1664
01:15:45,457 --> 01:15:47,042
that is billions of years old?
1665
01:15:47,083 --> 01:15:50,503
There's other civilizations that could be millions
1666
01:15:50,546 --> 01:15:54,550
of years ahead of us, or perhaps millions of years behind.
1667
01:15:54,591 --> 01:15:57,386
That's the scale of the galaxy.
1668
01:15:57,426 --> 01:16:01,305
And that's why I believe they're out there.
1669
01:16:01,347 --> 01:16:03,891
And possibly even here.
1670
01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:05,686
Our main problem is that
1671
01:16:05,726 --> 01:16:09,355
we assume they're just as primitive as we are.
1672
01:16:09,398 --> 01:16:12,025
They can digitize their consciousness
1673
01:16:12,067 --> 01:16:15,529
and put it on a laser beam, and shoot the laser beam
1674
01:16:15,529 --> 01:16:17,239
at the speed of light.
1675
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,702
What's at stake is our understanding of reality itself.
1676
01:16:21,743 --> 01:16:26,582
Our worldview could shatter with one credible incident
1677
01:16:26,622 --> 01:16:30,042
that cannot be refuted.
1678
01:16:30,042 --> 01:16:32,045
- The only explanation that makes any sense is that
1679
01:16:32,087 --> 01:16:34,840
there's something of higher intelligence
1680
01:16:34,881 --> 01:16:37,926
that's got advancement over our technology.
1681
01:16:37,967 --> 01:16:40,429
I think it's gonna change things of the world,
1682
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:43,765
people are gonna understand there's something out there
1683
01:16:43,806 --> 01:16:47,394
that isn't us, it isn't harming us,
1684
01:16:47,435 --> 01:16:49,438
and we can learn from it.
1685
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,189
This is a paradigm shift.
1686
01:16:51,230 --> 01:16:53,524
(intense music ends)
1687
01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:54,400
- Hi Bill?
1688
01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:55,527
- Hi.
1689
01:16:55,569 --> 01:16:56,778
- Good to see you again.
1690
01:16:56,819 --> 01:16:59,280
- I know I'm so looking forward to what you have have.
1691
01:16:59,323 --> 01:17:00,615
- Oh my God.
1692
01:17:00,657 --> 01:17:01,490
- Oh, really?
1693
01:17:01,533 --> 01:17:03,452
- Crazy. - That crazy?
1694
01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:04,411
- It's crazy.
1695
01:17:04,411 --> 01:17:06,622
- Don't waste another instance.
1696
01:17:06,662 --> 01:17:09,415
I need to see which you've got there.
1697
01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:12,627
- Okay, I've shown you some things before that we found,
1698
01:17:12,668 --> 01:17:14,630
that we're very, very interesting.
1699
01:17:14,671 --> 01:17:15,756
- Yeah.
1700
01:17:15,756 --> 01:17:17,548
It's not a bird, it's not a plane, it's not a blends-
1701
01:17:17,591 --> 01:17:19,635
- It's superman!
1702
01:17:19,676 --> 01:17:24,431
- (laughs) I mean, that has definitely been identified.
1703
01:17:24,430 --> 01:17:26,599
- I can't tell you how excited I am
1704
01:17:26,641 --> 01:17:27,434
to look at what you've got.
1705
01:17:27,475 --> 01:17:28,934
- It's incredible.
1706
01:17:28,976 --> 01:17:32,021
So keep your eye on this side of the frame.
1707
01:17:34,608 --> 01:17:36,025
- Yeah it's darker. - You see that?
1708
01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:42,157
- And then lightens up, and disappears.
1709
01:17:43,533 --> 01:17:44,618
- Uh-huh.
1710
01:17:48,663 --> 01:17:50,666
- Crazy!
1711
01:17:50,707 --> 01:17:53,460
(Caroline laughs)
1712
01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:55,253
It isn't crazy, it's crazy.
1713
01:17:55,295 --> 01:17:56,630
It's crazy.
1714
01:17:56,671 --> 01:17:58,464
- It's insane.
1715
01:17:58,506 --> 01:18:01,092
- Did anybody else analyze that?
1716
01:18:01,134 --> 01:18:02,636
- Everyone.
1717
01:18:02,677 --> 01:18:05,389
Don't forget, our scientists have taken all the data
1718
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:08,307
for eight weeks nonstop, looking into
1719
01:18:08,307 --> 01:18:10,976
what could this possibly be?
1720
01:18:11,019 --> 01:18:14,481
This is radiation emission, and look at that.
1721
01:18:14,523 --> 01:18:15,524
- And there is a-
1722
01:18:15,564 --> 01:18:17,483
- Huge burst.
1723
01:18:17,484 --> 01:18:19,111
- Incredible!
1724
01:18:19,152 --> 01:18:22,698
- Exactly, of 43.37, that happens exactly at the same time,
1725
01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:29,996
as that opening and closing, then it correlates with radar.
1726
01:18:32,498 --> 01:18:33,708
- Right. - They saw
1727
01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:36,627
this cluster that happens to be exactly
1728
01:18:36,670 --> 01:18:41,132
in the location of that anomaly.
1729
01:18:41,173 --> 01:18:42,509
So-
1730
01:18:42,509 --> 01:18:44,386
- Okay, so you've got a spike in the radiation,
1731
01:18:44,427 --> 01:18:45,720
you've got a figure.
1732
01:18:45,761 --> 01:18:48,889
So what you're saying is that it's amorphous,
1733
01:18:48,931 --> 01:18:51,559
it opens and closes and contracts,
1734
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,520
so it's nothing like we know.
1735
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,480
It's nothing that is human knowledge.
1736
01:18:56,523 --> 01:18:57,606
- Exactly.
1737
01:18:57,649 --> 01:18:58,525
- Reporting at something and saying,
1738
01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:01,194
how mysterious our world is.
1739
01:19:01,194 --> 01:19:04,990
- This is what we think could be,
1740
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:06,073
- Okay.
1741
01:19:06,115 --> 01:19:07,242
- A wormhole.
1742
01:19:07,283 --> 01:19:10,077
Some sort of gateway, some sort of-
1743
01:19:10,119 --> 01:19:11,747
- Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1744
01:19:11,787 --> 01:19:13,581
It's expanding and contracting?
1745
01:19:13,622 --> 01:19:14,623
- Yeah.
1746
01:19:14,666 --> 01:19:17,043
- Well a wormhole is a separation in time.
1747
01:19:17,042 --> 01:19:17,793
- Yes.
1748
01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:19,087
- Right?
1749
01:19:19,128 --> 01:19:20,838
And so that you can go through this separation,
1750
01:19:20,881 --> 01:19:23,048
you can go into another time zone.
1751
01:19:23,091 --> 01:19:26,052
- That is what the scientists are investigating.
1752
01:19:26,051 --> 01:19:29,555
That has never been explored before in this way
1753
01:19:29,555 --> 01:19:32,099
and recorded and measured.
1754
01:19:32,141 --> 01:19:33,225
- I think this that's wonderful.
1755
01:19:33,268 --> 01:19:34,226
- Yeah, yeah.
1756
01:19:34,269 --> 01:19:35,270
- I think it's glorious.
1757
01:19:35,311 --> 01:19:36,645
- Yes. - That you've gone to
1758
01:19:36,688 --> 01:19:40,609
all this time and expense, to look at phenomena,
1759
01:19:40,649 --> 01:19:42,943
that we don't know anything about, trying to measure it.
1760
01:19:42,985 --> 01:19:44,069
That's great.
1761
01:19:44,069 --> 01:19:45,404
(Sarah laughing)
1762
01:19:45,404 --> 01:19:46,822
That's just wonderful that you're doing that.
1763
01:19:48,073 --> 01:19:52,912
- I hope that with our endeavors out here,
1764
01:19:52,953 --> 01:19:56,957
that people will see that we can research this stuff
1765
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,796
without negative consequences, and we can know
1766
01:20:01,837 --> 01:20:04,925
what these things are, and I hope that in the future,
1767
01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:07,927
that people will come together.
1768
01:20:07,927 --> 01:20:11,264
- It took a lot of work to get to the end of this thing.
1769
01:20:11,305 --> 01:20:14,600
At this moment, having proved what we did,
1770
01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:18,145
and to be successful, its hard for me to find in words.
1771
01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:24,778
I feel paid back and we changed the world.
1772
01:20:27,197 --> 01:20:30,324
- They went above and beyond my expectations.
1773
01:20:30,367 --> 01:20:34,371
They supported each other, they took care of any problems
1774
01:20:34,412 --> 01:20:39,292
and I just can't say anything other than,
1775
01:20:40,627 --> 01:20:43,296
they're absolutely amazing people.
1776
01:20:43,337 --> 01:20:45,798
- I've never seen anything like that before, ever.
1777
01:20:45,798 --> 01:20:48,217
It was something out of a movie almost.
1778
01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:49,636
And the fact that it wasn't military,
1779
01:20:49,677 --> 01:20:51,262
that it wasn't government,
1780
01:20:51,304 --> 01:20:55,850
the fact that it was normal people seeking answers,
1781
01:20:55,891 --> 01:20:57,519
I love that also.
1782
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,186
Because they're accessible.
1783
01:20:59,229 --> 01:21:01,021
The government will always classify data,
1784
01:21:01,064 --> 01:21:03,316
the government will always hide data obviously,
1785
01:21:03,315 --> 01:21:04,900
but boom, there it is.
1786
01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:08,989
It's on a roof in California. (laughs)
1787
01:21:09,823 --> 01:21:11,324
- Incredible scientists
1788
01:21:11,365 --> 01:21:13,827
are doing incredible scientific experimentation
1789
01:21:13,827 --> 01:21:18,832
and research, to see if there's more to this UAP phenomena,
1790
01:21:20,082 --> 01:21:22,543
and it's gonna change the culture in the world.
1791
01:21:22,586 --> 01:21:24,003
Scientists are gonna have to start taking
1792
01:21:24,003 --> 01:21:25,671
this more seriously,
1793
01:21:25,671 --> 01:21:28,007
if we're gonna get to the bottom of the phenomenon.
1794
01:21:28,048 --> 01:21:31,344
- And indeed we found evidence of strange events
1795
01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:33,221
that you can't explain away.
1796
01:21:33,262 --> 01:21:34,555
You're not gonna tell me
1797
01:21:34,597 --> 01:21:36,807
you have a radioactive bird or plane.
1798
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:38,518
That's complete nonsense.
1799
01:21:38,518 --> 01:21:40,686
This phenomenon, whatever it is,
1800
01:21:40,686 --> 01:21:44,940
it's not a hoax and not an optical illusion.
1801
01:21:44,983 --> 01:21:48,110
- We have legitimate anomalies.
1802
01:21:48,153 --> 01:21:53,115
The next step in our jobs is to continue analyzing
1803
01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:57,203
the nature and the properties of these objects.
1804
01:21:57,244 --> 01:22:00,039
So that someday we can finally make
1805
01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:02,708
some definitive conclusions about
1806
01:22:02,751 --> 01:22:06,046
what this phenomenon is really about.
1807
01:22:06,046 --> 01:22:11,051
Is it natural, manmade or not of this earth?
1808
01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:15,430
- I believe we started something very important
1809
01:22:15,471 --> 01:22:18,057
in the field of UAP research.
1810
01:22:18,099 --> 01:22:22,895
If we discover the wormhole, a portal, a star gate
1811
01:22:22,895 --> 01:22:26,690
of some sort to other realities, or perhaps for now,
1812
01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:30,904
we can just call it a tear in the sky.
1813
01:22:30,945 --> 01:22:33,948
(upbeat music ends)
1814
01:22:36,701 --> 01:22:39,162
(bouncy music)
1815
01:22:40,788 --> 01:22:42,081
- Definitely some stuff going on
1816
01:22:42,082 --> 01:22:43,583
that we don't know about, for sure.
1817
01:22:43,582 --> 01:22:45,542
- I think there's other beings on other planets
1818
01:22:45,585 --> 01:22:46,795
that have visited us.
1819
01:22:46,836 --> 01:22:48,755
- No, I think no one's told us they visited us,
1820
01:22:48,796 --> 01:22:50,381
because we'd be scared.
1821
01:22:50,422 --> 01:22:52,300
- Some things, were not supposed to know.
1822
01:22:52,341 --> 01:22:53,842
- That's why they keep it a big secret,
1823
01:22:53,885 --> 01:22:55,552
that's why there's a conspiracy.
1824
01:22:55,595 --> 01:22:57,597
- Because they're way smarter than we are.
1825
01:22:57,596 --> 01:22:58,931
- No one's ready.
1826
01:22:58,931 --> 01:23:00,975
- They probably don't really wanna be associated
1827
01:23:01,016 --> 01:23:02,351
with a bunch of morons.
1828
01:23:02,394 --> 01:23:05,230
- They're definitely on some science that we're not at yet.
1829
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:07,773
- Yeah, if anything, we've taken from them.
1830
01:23:07,815 --> 01:23:10,109
- They might be ahead of us or behind us.
1831
01:23:10,109 --> 01:23:11,318
We never know.
1832
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,904
- Probably they have the iPhone 21.
1833
01:23:13,947 --> 01:23:15,614
They're just waiting till the time
1834
01:23:15,614 --> 01:23:17,617
to give that information to Apple.
1835
01:23:17,658 --> 01:23:18,909
- If hypothetically,
1836
01:23:18,952 --> 01:23:19,869
- Yes?
1837
01:23:19,911 --> 01:23:21,704
- A spaceship would land right now.
1838
01:23:21,746 --> 01:23:22,788
- Yes.
1839
01:23:22,831 --> 01:23:24,123
- And an extraterrestrial would say,
1840
01:23:24,123 --> 01:23:26,126
"Hey Bill, come on board with me."
1841
01:23:26,167 --> 01:23:27,419
- I would love to.
1842
01:23:27,460 --> 01:23:30,005
I would embrace that and say, "Come in peace.
1843
01:23:30,046 --> 01:23:31,006
We live in peace.
1844
01:23:31,046 --> 01:23:31,964
We want knowledge."
1845
01:23:31,965 --> 01:23:34,300
And I'd go into the spaceship
1846
01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:37,137
and let them give me a baby. (laughs)
1847
01:23:37,177 --> 01:23:40,974
- Oh, I love that. (chuckling)
1848
01:23:41,015 --> 01:23:44,810
- The next time you are kidnapped by an alien civilization,
1849
01:23:44,810 --> 01:23:47,146
for God's sake, steal something.
1850
01:23:47,188 --> 01:23:51,150
An alien hammer, an alien pencil, an alien paperweight.
1851
01:23:51,192 --> 01:23:53,028
There's no law against stealing
1852
01:23:53,069 --> 01:23:55,030
from an extraterrestrial civilization.
1853
01:23:55,070 --> 01:23:57,948
You're not gonna go to jail, and you'll have proof,
1854
01:23:57,990 --> 01:24:02,119
living proof that you've been in that flying saucer.
1855
01:24:02,162 --> 01:24:04,998
- I think it's extraordinary that you've spent your time
1856
01:24:05,039 --> 01:24:06,666
and your money doing that.
1857
01:24:06,707 --> 01:24:11,003
If we could explain something that humans don't understand,
1858
01:24:11,046 --> 01:24:15,341
and we have a valid certified explanation of something
1859
01:24:15,382 --> 01:24:19,054
that has been a mystery, and no longer is a mystery,
1860
01:24:19,095 --> 01:24:23,975
that only adds to this textbook of knowledge
1861
01:24:24,016 --> 01:24:27,686
that human beings are striving every day to fill.
1862
01:24:27,729 --> 01:24:30,106
And if you can fill that with one sentence,
1863
01:24:30,148 --> 01:24:34,027
let alone a chapter, it would be wondrous.
1864
01:24:34,069 --> 01:24:39,074
And I am filled with joy that you're making these forays
1865
01:24:41,033 --> 01:24:44,369
out into the stuff we see and don't see,
1866
01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:46,414
and trying to find an explanation.
1867
01:24:46,456 --> 01:24:49,751
That's wonderful, and I wish you well.
1868
01:24:49,792 --> 01:24:50,876
- Thank you.
1869
01:24:50,877 --> 01:24:53,463
(intense music)
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