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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,083 --> 00:00:01,625 - Looking up in the sky, 2 00:00:01,625 --> 00:00:06,131 and it was three white lines, vertical. 3 00:00:06,171 --> 00:00:08,632 There was one that always stayed away from it. 4 00:00:08,675 --> 00:00:10,844 - I don't know what I saw. 5 00:00:10,884 --> 00:00:14,013 - Blip in the sky, streak of light. 6 00:00:14,054 --> 00:00:16,932 - Dark, hovering object above a bridge 7 00:00:16,975 --> 00:00:19,978 that we were coming back from, and it almost looked like a- 8 00:00:20,019 --> 00:00:24,815 - This weird, kind of amorphous, opalescent kind of thing. 9 00:00:24,815 --> 00:00:27,985 - An unidentified object, it was coming in very fast. 10 00:00:28,027 --> 00:00:31,030 - It was staying perfectly still and stationary in the sky 11 00:00:31,071 --> 00:00:33,991 for about four to five minutes, until it started to move. 12 00:00:34,033 --> 00:00:37,327 - And it was so distraughtful, and it was really wicked. 13 00:00:37,369 --> 00:00:38,996 To this day, I don't know what it is. 14 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:44,002 - Made a hard right turn, went up like 90 degrees. 15 00:00:45,253 --> 00:00:46,628 They figured that it was traveling 16 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:47,963 at something like 800 miles an hour. 17 00:00:48,006 --> 00:00:49,256 - And then they changed formation. 18 00:00:49,298 --> 00:00:51,676 At first, it was vertical, then it went lateral, 19 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:55,013 and then they changed to like a rectangle shape. 20 00:00:55,054 --> 00:00:57,682 But that one always stayed away from the others. 21 00:01:06,231 --> 00:01:08,777 (cool music) 22 00:01:12,572 --> 00:01:14,573 - I started out at a very young age, 23 00:01:14,615 --> 00:01:17,034 witnessing anomalous events, such as UFOs. 24 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:21,581 And that's what got me interested in a field of ufology. 25 00:01:21,623 --> 00:01:24,751 I became a researcher and a speaker. 26 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:28,088 Throughout the years, I have come a cross hundreds 27 00:01:28,129 --> 00:01:32,091 of people from all walks of life, from all around the world, 28 00:01:32,132 --> 00:01:37,137 who also have had similar experiences, witnessing UFOs. 29 00:01:37,930 --> 00:01:40,057 And so this phenomenon is not new. 30 00:01:40,099 --> 00:01:43,060 It's very old, and very widespread. 31 00:01:43,102 --> 00:01:47,397 Yet, this entire subject has been lacking credibility 32 00:01:47,397 --> 00:01:48,899 and acceptance from society, 33 00:01:48,941 --> 00:01:51,485 but also from the establishment. 34 00:01:51,528 --> 00:01:56,574 And it wasn't until 2017 when "The New York Times" came out 35 00:01:57,992 --> 00:02:00,078 with an article featuring three leaked videos 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,916 from the US Navy that totally defied explanation, 37 00:02:04,915 --> 00:02:08,335 that the conversation began to shift. 38 00:02:08,377 --> 00:02:11,421 - [Pilot] (yells) Got it, (laughing) woo hoo! 39 00:02:11,421 --> 00:02:14,633 - [Radio] Roger there's something shooting- 40 00:02:14,675 --> 00:02:15,926 - [Pilot] We're going against the wind. 41 00:02:15,926 --> 00:02:17,971 The wind's 120 miles to the west. 42 00:02:18,012 --> 00:02:20,514 Well, if there's- - Look at this thing. 43 00:02:20,556 --> 00:02:22,057 - It's rotating. 44 00:02:22,099 --> 00:02:25,144 There's a whole fleet of them, look on (indistinct) 45 00:02:25,186 --> 00:02:26,020 My gosh! 46 00:02:28,522 --> 00:02:30,942 - On USS Princeton, I was responsible 47 00:02:30,984 --> 00:02:35,487 for classified material, top secret data recording. 48 00:02:35,530 --> 00:02:38,491 In November in 2004, we were doing workups 49 00:02:38,532 --> 00:02:41,661 in preparation for our next deployment. 50 00:02:41,703 --> 00:02:43,955 - I was on the USS Princeton, 51 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:45,790 I was the leading operation specialist, 52 00:02:45,831 --> 00:02:47,457 and basically we'd control the radars, 53 00:02:47,457 --> 00:02:48,793 we'd man the radars, 54 00:02:48,793 --> 00:02:50,795 we'd fight the ship if we ever go to combat. 55 00:02:50,836 --> 00:02:52,963 My primary job was to identify everything 56 00:02:52,963 --> 00:02:54,007 that flew in the sky. 57 00:02:55,175 --> 00:02:58,844 On November 10th, I started to notice 58 00:02:58,887 --> 00:03:00,972 some really strange contacts off the coast of Catalina. 59 00:03:01,014 --> 00:03:02,473 - During those workups, 60 00:03:02,514 --> 00:03:05,392 we tracked unknown aircraft for several days. 61 00:03:05,435 --> 00:03:08,354 - This is the contacts, we're at 28,000 feet going South 62 00:03:08,395 --> 00:03:10,522 about 100 knots, and I'm thinking to myself, 63 00:03:10,564 --> 00:03:11,816 "I never seen anything fly like that." 64 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:15,319 And I had 15 and a half years actual sea time, 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,695 sitting behind that radar. 66 00:03:16,737 --> 00:03:19,032 At one point it was raining UFOs. 67 00:03:19,073 --> 00:03:21,075 But I'd never seen anything fly like this, 68 00:03:21,116 --> 00:03:23,036 and all the other ships are tracking it too. 69 00:03:23,076 --> 00:03:25,496 Fast Eagle flight happened to be airborne, 70 00:03:25,538 --> 00:03:26,998 Commander Fravor, the first one to launch off 71 00:03:27,039 --> 00:03:28,875 the Nimitz aircraft carrier. 72 00:03:28,917 --> 00:03:31,336 These objects fell out (vocalizing). 73 00:03:31,377 --> 00:03:34,088 These things went straight back up to 28,000 feet again 74 00:03:34,129 --> 00:03:37,007 in less than a second, and then at the very end, 75 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:38,009 it was right in front of him. 76 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:39,843 (object zooming) 77 00:03:39,843 --> 00:03:41,346 Disappeared. 78 00:03:41,346 --> 00:03:44,348 - They exhibited flight capabilities that were well beyond 79 00:03:44,389 --> 00:03:46,433 anything that I'd ever seen before. 80 00:03:46,475 --> 00:03:48,061 So I'm pretty familiar with just 81 00:03:48,102 --> 00:03:51,688 about the fastest things in the sky, and these things 82 00:03:51,730 --> 00:03:54,192 kinda made them look like they're toys. 83 00:03:56,068 --> 00:04:00,030 - Because these videos were taken by military servicemen, 84 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:04,117 the Navy and the Pentagon eventually confirmed 85 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:06,204 the veracity of these sightings. 86 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:10,582 Senator Reid, Senator Rubio, and others prompted Congress 87 00:04:10,625 --> 00:04:12,210 to investigate these events, 88 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:16,004 and publish an official report on these findings. 89 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:19,467 Even though multiple credible cases were investigated, 90 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:24,222 the UAP report, "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena" 91 00:04:24,221 --> 00:04:27,766 turned out to inconclusive, which unfortunately, 92 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:31,104 did not surprise many of us in the UFO community. 93 00:04:31,144 --> 00:04:32,562 - When you don't know what it is, 94 00:04:32,562 --> 00:04:36,233 of course nothing can be conclusively ruled out. 95 00:04:36,233 --> 00:04:38,402 - Can they come up with any explanation? 96 00:04:38,403 --> 00:04:40,196 - Really just a fraction of evidence 97 00:04:40,237 --> 00:04:42,072 the government has on UFOs. 98 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:45,242 - What does the US government know about UFOs? 99 00:04:45,242 --> 00:04:47,704 - Had that bombshell not come out in "The New York Times", 100 00:04:47,745 --> 00:04:51,290 and "Politico," and CNN, we wouldn't be where we are today. 101 00:04:51,331 --> 00:04:53,918 The Pentagon has not been forthcoming at all. 102 00:04:53,959 --> 00:04:56,169 They have been a huge pain in the ass 103 00:04:56,211 --> 00:04:58,423 regarding this topic, massively. 104 00:04:58,423 --> 00:05:01,091 And what's really needed with this topic, 105 00:05:01,091 --> 00:05:03,176 real evidence, real data. 106 00:05:03,218 --> 00:05:05,930 However long it takes, that's the stuff 107 00:05:05,971 --> 00:05:07,681 that becomes fool proof. 108 00:05:09,182 --> 00:05:11,269 - The next morning I get up, I say, "What the heck? 109 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:13,478 I'm gonna write a very detailed message 110 00:05:13,521 --> 00:05:14,814 about what happened." 111 00:05:14,855 --> 00:05:17,524 I went back up to combat information center, CIC, 112 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:20,944 and one of the lead technicians, he looks at me and says, 113 00:05:20,944 --> 00:05:24,072 "Senior Chief, the data isn't on the ship anymore." 114 00:05:24,115 --> 00:05:25,283 I said, "What are you talking about?" 115 00:05:25,283 --> 00:05:27,617 He said, "Somebody came on board our ship, 116 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:29,287 and they took our data. 117 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:32,790 In fact, they made us erase everything down 118 00:05:32,831 --> 00:05:34,125 in the computer room." 119 00:05:34,125 --> 00:05:36,293 Even blank tapes had gotten erased. 120 00:05:36,293 --> 00:05:38,795 - We had our data recording for all 121 00:05:38,795 --> 00:05:40,839 of our equipment taken off the ship. 122 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:43,634 And on top of that we were ordered 123 00:05:43,675 --> 00:05:48,639 to erase everything that was left in the shop. 124 00:05:50,141 --> 00:05:53,436 - And for them to take it, it was highly unusual. 125 00:05:53,478 --> 00:05:55,146 I raised my hand, I said, 126 00:05:55,187 --> 00:05:57,314 "I think we got a safety issue here." 127 00:05:57,357 --> 00:05:58,983 And I would try to describe what happened, 128 00:05:59,024 --> 00:06:00,650 and I got laughed at. 129 00:06:00,651 --> 00:06:03,237 I got ridiculed, there was jokes posted, 130 00:06:03,278 --> 00:06:05,490 there was cartoons posted about me, 131 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:10,536 and I got so frustrated (clears throat) 132 00:06:14,415 --> 00:06:17,335 it ended my career. (sniffs) 133 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:21,338 - Some of my shipmates lost careers, lost wives, 134 00:06:21,380 --> 00:06:25,050 lost the ability to be able to see their children. 135 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:29,931 These are all the consequences of these events 136 00:06:29,971 --> 00:06:32,516 that happened that we were told to not talk about. 137 00:06:32,557 --> 00:06:35,185 - And it was really scary, it was really lonely. 138 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:38,980 And at one point I ended up, 139 00:06:39,023 --> 00:06:40,525 I didn't know what I was gonna do. 140 00:06:40,524 --> 00:06:44,319 I'd gone through all this pain and suffering, if you will. 141 00:06:46,406 --> 00:06:51,076 - It is unimaginable to think that a UFO encounter 142 00:06:51,119 --> 00:06:53,704 could affect these guys to such a point 143 00:06:53,704 --> 00:06:55,497 that they would lose their careers. 144 00:06:55,540 --> 00:06:58,751 They would lose their personal and social life. 145 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:01,002 Now I feel even more determined 146 00:07:01,045 --> 00:07:03,798 to help find some answers about their experience. 147 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,383 I feel after all these years, 148 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:09,302 if the government is not officially at a point 149 00:07:09,345 --> 00:07:11,264 where they can offer real answers 150 00:07:11,305 --> 00:07:14,057 to these very widespread sightings, 151 00:07:14,057 --> 00:07:17,728 well, maybe it is up to us to look into the subject. 152 00:07:17,728 --> 00:07:21,232 But from a new scientific perspective, 153 00:07:21,232 --> 00:07:23,401 because that has never been done. 154 00:07:23,401 --> 00:07:25,778 I decided to take on this challenge. 155 00:07:25,819 --> 00:07:29,365 I'm going to find a way to team up with scientists 156 00:07:29,406 --> 00:07:32,909 and experts on this, and see if we can capture 157 00:07:32,951 --> 00:07:36,913 these objects ourselves, and offer some answers. 158 00:07:36,913 --> 00:07:40,000 But first I want to invite someone 159 00:07:40,041 --> 00:07:43,086 that I really, really love, William Shatner. 160 00:07:43,086 --> 00:07:45,338 I met him on multiple projects, 161 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:49,384 because he is the icon of the sci-fi world. 162 00:07:49,427 --> 00:07:52,847 And he also has been involved in the world of ufology, 163 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:55,348 and world mysteries for a long time, 164 00:07:55,391 --> 00:07:58,269 I think his insight is going to be fantastic 165 00:07:58,310 --> 00:08:02,939 to help us bridge the gap from sci-fi to real science. 166 00:08:02,939 --> 00:08:05,651 And that'll give us an additional perspective 167 00:08:05,692 --> 00:08:10,697 on what this UFO/UAP phenomenon is really about. 168 00:08:13,367 --> 00:08:18,164 - What has made mankind is an insatiable curiosity. 169 00:08:21,625 --> 00:08:24,711 Insatiable. What is that? 170 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:25,838 Nobody knows. 171 00:08:27,380 --> 00:08:28,465 A phenomena. 172 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:31,343 - This time we're talking about UFOs. 173 00:08:31,384 --> 00:08:33,513 The fact that the government is coming up 174 00:08:33,553 --> 00:08:37,432 with all these videos and saying it's real. 175 00:08:37,475 --> 00:08:38,308 - Oh, they're saying it's real? 176 00:08:38,350 --> 00:08:40,352 - Yes. - That it's really 177 00:08:40,394 --> 00:08:43,188 an unidentified flying object. 178 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:45,649 - Have you seen the UAP report? 179 00:08:45,649 --> 00:08:46,817 - It's inconclusive. 180 00:08:46,817 --> 00:08:48,193 - Exactly. Exactly. 181 00:08:48,235 --> 00:08:50,362 So we're very frustrated- 182 00:08:50,403 --> 00:08:52,365 - But what do you want to see? 183 00:08:52,405 --> 00:08:54,241 - Data. Data. 184 00:08:54,283 --> 00:08:58,495 I think that there were a lot of very credible cases. 185 00:08:58,538 --> 00:09:02,332 Air force pilots, Navy, military, 186 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:05,503 there are so many of those credible cases 187 00:09:05,503 --> 00:09:07,338 that you would think by now, 188 00:09:07,379 --> 00:09:11,884 we have some sort of investigation and data reporting- 189 00:09:11,926 --> 00:09:13,844 - No, no, they had investigations. 190 00:09:13,885 --> 00:09:16,346 You would think by now that they would say, 191 00:09:16,346 --> 00:09:19,350 "Here's a piece of something," or, "Here is"- 192 00:09:19,392 --> 00:09:20,850 - Yes. 193 00:09:20,850 --> 00:09:21,726 - Right. 194 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:25,313 - So I had an idea. (laughs) 195 00:09:25,355 --> 00:09:26,189 - Which is? 196 00:09:26,231 --> 00:09:27,357 And I'm sure it was a good one. 197 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,279 - I thought we need to go all the way, 198 00:09:32,321 --> 00:09:35,533 and do something at a much bigger scale. 199 00:09:35,533 --> 00:09:39,036 We need to do a scientific investigation. 200 00:09:39,077 --> 00:09:40,663 - I think that's marvelous. 201 00:09:40,705 --> 00:09:44,709 - Those Navy pilots who were off of the coast of Catalina. 202 00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:47,794 And this is where they saw these TICTAC videos. 203 00:09:47,836 --> 00:09:51,506 And other Navy ships as well, all in the same area. 204 00:09:51,548 --> 00:09:53,425 That's kind of what I'm thinking. 205 00:09:53,466 --> 00:09:57,138 We put a team of scientists, experts, 206 00:09:57,178 --> 00:10:00,600 military folks as well, since they have the experience, 207 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:05,062 and attempt to capture something in real time. 208 00:10:05,062 --> 00:10:09,524 - Yes, if you could hone in electronically and visually. 209 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:11,735 on some unidentified flying object, 210 00:10:11,777 --> 00:10:14,780 you'd certainly have made news, that's for sure. 211 00:10:14,822 --> 00:10:16,448 - The TICTAC videos, for example, 212 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:20,620 there is no other angles of the same object. 213 00:10:20,660 --> 00:10:23,622 We don't have have any sort of radiation detection. 214 00:10:23,663 --> 00:10:24,789 We don't have any sort of- 215 00:10:24,831 --> 00:10:26,082 - We don't have a triangulation. 216 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:27,543 - We don't have any triangulation. 217 00:10:27,585 --> 00:10:28,586 - Although- 218 00:10:28,586 --> 00:10:29,586 - Yes. 219 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:32,130 - The radar picked it up as well as the cameras 220 00:10:32,173 --> 00:10:34,634 on the ships if I'm not mistaken. 221 00:10:34,674 --> 00:10:36,593 - Yes. - All you need is a phenomena. 222 00:10:36,635 --> 00:10:38,803 - It sounds like you think it's a good idea? 223 00:10:38,846 --> 00:10:40,306 - Oh, it's a wonderful idea. 224 00:10:40,347 --> 00:10:41,723 - Great, 225 00:10:41,765 --> 00:10:43,475 - Well, I can't tell you how much I'm looking forward 226 00:10:43,517 --> 00:10:48,439 to hearing, and hopefully seeing what you've uncovered. 227 00:10:49,606 --> 00:10:50,649 - Awesome, thank you. 228 00:10:52,275 --> 00:10:55,612 - That's what we need, the smoking gun that'll clench it. 229 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:58,616 That once and for all will settle the debate. 230 00:10:58,615 --> 00:11:01,242 No ifs, ands or buts. 231 00:11:01,284 --> 00:11:05,288 And in the process, rewrite all of human history. 232 00:11:05,288 --> 00:11:07,792 (upbeat music) 233 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:11,461 - [Caroline] I was ecstatic to find out 234 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:16,091 that the Navy personnel from the USS Nimitz encounter 235 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:20,930 had created the UAPx team, with renowned scientists 236 00:11:20,971 --> 00:11:24,225 and experts, to research the UFO phenomenon 237 00:11:24,265 --> 00:11:28,728 in more depth, and with rigorous scientific methodologies. 238 00:11:28,770 --> 00:11:33,233 So, the UAPx team was the perfect fit 239 00:11:33,274 --> 00:11:36,153 for this first expedition. 240 00:11:36,153 --> 00:11:38,614 (upbeat music) 241 00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:46,163 - Oh, they're here, Gary. - Hey Gary. 242 00:11:46,163 --> 00:11:47,331 Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you 243 00:11:47,331 --> 00:11:48,164 in person, Caro. - Yeah. 244 00:11:48,164 --> 00:11:49,791 Kevin, nice to meet you. 245 00:11:49,833 --> 00:11:50,709 This is awesome. - Nice to meet you. 246 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:51,626 - This is Jeremy. 247 00:11:51,668 --> 00:11:52,544 - Good to meet you 248 00:11:52,586 --> 00:11:53,712 in the flesh. - Good to meet you. 249 00:11:53,754 --> 00:11:54,672 - Hi Jeremy. - Kevin? 250 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,132 - Mr. OSIRIS. - Good to meet you. 251 00:11:56,173 --> 00:11:57,716 - Absolutely. Absolutely. (Sarah laughs) 252 00:11:57,758 --> 00:11:59,343 - These are the guys who were on the USS Princeton, 253 00:11:59,342 --> 00:12:01,344 everybody's been talking about. 254 00:12:01,345 --> 00:12:04,389 So why should we work with any anybody else, 255 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:07,350 but the real folks who lived it? 256 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:08,184 - The guys who started it. 257 00:12:08,226 --> 00:12:09,519 - Yeah. 258 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:11,938 And so this moment is very exciting for me 259 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:14,524 because if you want to bring credibility 260 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:18,070 to this phenomenon, you have to go all the way. 261 00:12:18,111 --> 00:12:21,740 I mean, it has to be big, it has to be scientific. 262 00:12:21,782 --> 00:12:23,408 - That's the very reason why we started our company 263 00:12:23,451 --> 00:12:25,536 is 'cause we didn't have those answers. 264 00:12:25,577 --> 00:12:26,870 - We agree. - And it 265 00:12:26,912 --> 00:12:28,538 was great that they came out, and let everybody know 266 00:12:28,538 --> 00:12:31,375 this was a real thing, but there needs to be more done. 267 00:12:31,417 --> 00:12:32,752 - Well, the video's one thing, 268 00:12:32,793 --> 00:12:34,879 but we've gotta get more data. 269 00:12:34,919 --> 00:12:37,380 - Personally thinking, we need to go back 270 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:40,550 to where you guys were, Southern California. 271 00:12:40,592 --> 00:12:41,968 What do you suggest? 272 00:12:42,010 --> 00:12:43,511 What do you think we should do? 273 00:12:43,553 --> 00:12:44,764 - Well. - Well, 274 00:12:44,804 --> 00:12:46,556 we got a couple of locations that we kinda thought 275 00:12:46,557 --> 00:12:49,058 that we're gonna do good coverage 276 00:12:49,058 --> 00:12:51,728 of the South part of the island. 277 00:12:51,729 --> 00:12:54,398 - I'd be okay if we could get a house 278 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,901 on the beach right here, somewhere, that would be ideal. 279 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:59,694 And then maybe a place with a flat roof on Catalina. 280 00:12:59,736 --> 00:13:01,905 - Then our third location could be the truck. 281 00:13:01,905 --> 00:13:05,074 - So if we do have two stationary positions, 282 00:13:05,116 --> 00:13:08,411 and then we have Jeremy in one spot, 283 00:13:08,453 --> 00:13:11,581 we could potentially achieve some sort of triangulation. 284 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:12,541 - Yes. 285 00:13:12,582 --> 00:13:14,083 - Which is very, very important. 286 00:13:14,083 --> 00:13:14,834 - Yes. - Yup. 287 00:13:14,876 --> 00:13:16,461 - In collecting data. 288 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:19,632 So at the end of the day, who do we have on the team? 289 00:13:19,673 --> 00:13:21,341 - So, we've got myself, Gary Voorhis, 290 00:13:21,383 --> 00:13:24,220 we've got Kevin Day, we've got Jason Turner. 291 00:13:24,260 --> 00:13:25,846 - [Kevin] And we were all on the Princeton together. 292 00:13:25,888 --> 00:13:28,474 - [Gary] We also have Dave Altman, and Michael Hall, 293 00:13:28,515 --> 00:13:30,934 both experienced UFO researchers. 294 00:13:30,975 --> 00:13:33,229 Then we have our scientist, Kevin Knuth, 295 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:35,021 who is an associate professor in physics, 296 00:13:35,063 --> 00:13:37,065 and an expert in exoplanet research. 297 00:13:37,106 --> 00:13:39,025 We also have Matthews Szydagis, 298 00:13:39,067 --> 00:13:40,778 an associate professor in physics. 299 00:13:40,820 --> 00:13:43,781 His expertise is in dark matter and radiation detection. 300 00:13:43,780 --> 00:13:44,948 Then we have David Mason, 301 00:13:44,948 --> 00:13:46,741 he's invented several of the devices 302 00:13:46,783 --> 00:13:50,830 that can detect communication patterns coming from UAP. 303 00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:53,289 - So we have optical, we have acoustic. 304 00:13:53,289 --> 00:13:54,040 What else we got? 305 00:13:54,082 --> 00:13:55,750 - [Gary] We got thermal, 306 00:13:55,793 --> 00:13:58,837 we've got, everything we can throw at it. 307 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:02,466 - With all this equipment and all of us over five days, 308 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:04,802 24/7, if we don't see something, 309 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,679 I'm gonna be very disappointed. 310 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,639 - It would be pretty disappointing if we don't see anything, 311 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:10,932 but that is science though. 312 00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:13,519 - Has this ever been done before? 313 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:14,979 - Never. - And not that I know of. 314 00:14:15,019 --> 00:14:16,813 - I've never even seen it from the government. 315 00:14:16,813 --> 00:14:18,314 - We're making history. 316 00:14:18,315 --> 00:14:21,819 (intense music) 317 00:14:21,818 --> 00:14:23,736 While the main team is getting set up 318 00:14:23,778 --> 00:14:25,322 at the Laguna location, 319 00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:28,533 Gary, Kevin, and I decided to charter a plane 320 00:14:28,576 --> 00:14:30,952 to scout a location on Catalina Island, 321 00:14:30,995 --> 00:14:34,874 so we can have the best spot for our potential sightings. 322 00:14:36,875 --> 00:14:38,836 - [Gary] So after all of the events happened, 323 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:41,922 and Kevin Day said, "Hey, let's go out there, 324 00:14:41,964 --> 00:14:43,966 and let's go find out what they are." 325 00:14:44,008 --> 00:14:48,512 - I wanna make sure it is the best vantage point 326 00:14:48,511 --> 00:14:49,846 of facing the channel. 327 00:14:49,846 --> 00:14:51,180 - Yeah, facing the channel. 328 00:14:51,222 --> 00:14:52,015 - Yeah, exactly. 329 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:57,354 - My goal for the expeditions is to prove they're real, 330 00:14:57,395 --> 00:15:01,190 prove they're findable, and prove these things are knowable. 331 00:15:01,191 --> 00:15:02,735 We can know what they are. 332 00:15:02,775 --> 00:15:03,776 That's my goal. 333 00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:06,906 - [Caroline] I think we're gonna have like a couple 334 00:15:06,947 --> 00:15:08,782 of really, really good spots. 335 00:15:10,783 --> 00:15:12,201 - Let's see if we can figure it out, 336 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:13,370 let's see if we can find them. 337 00:15:13,412 --> 00:15:15,873 Let's go get the missing data ourselves. 338 00:15:15,914 --> 00:15:18,082 - I wanna be the guy that makes the identification. 339 00:15:18,125 --> 00:15:19,626 That was my job in the Navy. 340 00:15:20,878 --> 00:15:24,381 - The best vantage point we found on Catalina Island 341 00:15:24,423 --> 00:15:28,552 is on the rooftop of a building facing the channel. 342 00:15:28,552 --> 00:15:31,889 We're going to have Dave, Michael, and a friend of ours, 343 00:15:31,889 --> 00:15:34,475 Chrissy Newton set up at that location. 344 00:15:35,683 --> 00:15:37,769 They will be in constant communication 345 00:15:37,811 --> 00:15:41,440 with us on the mainland and will be able to alert us 346 00:15:41,481 --> 00:15:43,900 as soon as they have a sighting. 347 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:45,944 - You set up on a rooftop of a building. 348 00:15:45,985 --> 00:15:47,446 You got a great line of sight, 349 00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:49,949 we've got all of the equipment put out there already. 350 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:52,951 We're gonna have your thermal, your regular binoculars. 351 00:15:52,993 --> 00:15:54,745 Anything you see, you can be able to document 352 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:57,956 and correlate with the data that we have on the other side. 353 00:15:57,998 --> 00:15:59,416 - I got a feeling we're gonna see something. 354 00:15:59,416 --> 00:16:00,834 I mean, there's been reports of sightings 355 00:16:00,875 --> 00:16:02,919 out there since early 40's. 356 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:04,420 - Well, you guys know what to do. 357 00:16:04,462 --> 00:16:06,005 Get over there, get everything set up. 358 00:16:06,048 --> 00:16:07,256 - Sounds great. 359 00:16:07,298 --> 00:16:08,091 - We'll take shifts. 360 00:16:08,091 --> 00:16:09,134 - Yep. - Yep. 361 00:16:09,176 --> 00:16:09,927 - Yep. - Awesome. 362 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:11,011 - Let's get 'em done. 363 00:16:13,096 --> 00:16:15,932 (air whooshing) 364 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:21,480 - Michael and Dave are off to Catalina. 365 00:16:21,522 --> 00:16:25,442 We are very excited, but a bit nervous 366 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:29,446 because the logistics for the setup on Catalina, 367 00:16:29,446 --> 00:16:32,783 and the communication are quite difficult. 368 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:35,786 There are no trucks or vehicles on the island 369 00:16:35,827 --> 00:16:37,954 to help us move the equipment. 370 00:16:37,996 --> 00:16:41,290 And even though we do have a communication protocol 371 00:16:41,332 --> 00:16:43,626 in place, we're gonna have to rely 372 00:16:43,668 --> 00:16:46,838 on a very spotty cell-phone service. 373 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,966 But with team effort, we're keeping a positive outlook, 374 00:16:50,009 --> 00:16:51,802 and hoping for the best. 375 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:54,430 (intense music) 376 00:17:00,852 --> 00:17:01,853 - Looks like we made it, Mike. 377 00:17:01,894 --> 00:17:03,730 - Ho, ho, ho. 378 00:17:03,772 --> 00:17:05,315 - Let's get these big guys set up, 379 00:17:05,356 --> 00:17:08,152 and then we'll take a quick inventory of what we've got. 380 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,826 - Give us a little bit of a practice session 381 00:17:16,826 --> 00:17:18,662 on these things moving out there, 382 00:17:19,913 --> 00:17:23,709 and we'll see if we can keep up with any UAP 383 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:26,211 that's going thousands of miles an hour. 384 00:17:26,252 --> 00:17:27,712 We might have to- - Gonna get whiplash. 385 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:30,674 - It's gonna be hard to catch 'em but we'll see. 386 00:17:32,259 --> 00:17:35,095 (intense music) 387 00:17:46,856 --> 00:17:49,151 - When I hear that you've assembled a team 388 00:17:49,192 --> 00:17:52,738 of top scientists using state of the art equipment 389 00:17:52,779 --> 00:17:54,572 to settle some of these questions, 390 00:17:54,615 --> 00:17:58,035 I say to myself, "What took you so long?" 391 00:17:58,035 --> 00:18:00,370 I mean, the data is out there. 392 00:18:00,412 --> 00:18:02,581 So we have to jump into it. 393 00:18:02,623 --> 00:18:06,375 Wherever it goes, wherever the data leads us, 394 00:18:06,417 --> 00:18:07,877 that's where we have to go. 395 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,547 So I say it's about time. 396 00:18:11,882 --> 00:18:14,426 (intense music) 397 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:18,722 - Here we are, the first day is for equipment set up. 398 00:18:18,763 --> 00:18:23,059 We already had power outages and software malfunction. 399 00:18:23,102 --> 00:18:26,855 We only have five days to succeed at our mission. 400 00:18:26,896 --> 00:18:29,066 So the stakes are high. 401 00:18:29,107 --> 00:18:31,109 We have come prepared, but the odds 402 00:18:31,151 --> 00:18:33,570 of capturing real anomalous objects 403 00:18:33,569 --> 00:18:36,572 within these five days are 50/50. 404 00:18:36,615 --> 00:18:39,117 We just don't know what to expect. 405 00:18:39,159 --> 00:18:42,746 (intense music continues) 406 00:18:50,002 --> 00:18:51,462 - I have a friend of mine, Chrissy Newton, 407 00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:52,756 another set of eyes. 408 00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:54,924 There'll be three sets of eyes instead of two. 409 00:18:56,926 --> 00:18:58,177 - All right, I got something. 410 00:18:59,179 --> 00:19:00,721 I got something, Michael. 411 00:19:00,763 --> 00:19:01,889 - Did you? - Yep, over here. 412 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:05,059 Hey, come here, hurry up. - Huh? 413 00:19:05,102 --> 00:19:05,853 - It's up there. 414 00:19:06,936 --> 00:19:07,937 Oh, it's moving. 415 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,105 It's frigging moving. 416 00:19:10,106 --> 00:19:11,107 Hurry up. 417 00:19:12,192 --> 00:19:12,984 - Moving. 418 00:19:14,193 --> 00:19:16,028 - You see a white ball above the mountain? 419 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:17,196 - [Chrissy] Yep, I do. 420 00:19:18,865 --> 00:19:19,950 - You see it Mike? 421 00:19:19,991 --> 00:19:20,951 - Oh yeah. 422 00:19:20,992 --> 00:19:22,451 - Oh, I see it moving now. - Is it moving? 423 00:19:22,493 --> 00:19:23,786 - Yeah, it's moving, oh. 424 00:19:25,622 --> 00:19:26,789 We saw a few things. 425 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:28,792 The first thing that we saw when I walked in 426 00:19:28,791 --> 00:19:31,336 was a UFO that was, well, we think it was a UFO, 427 00:19:31,377 --> 00:19:32,753 we're not 100% sure. 428 00:19:32,796 --> 00:19:34,965 We did see some craft of some sort 429 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:37,176 that was moving across the sky. 430 00:19:37,217 --> 00:19:38,927 - Tonight was good. 431 00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:42,096 I mean, I guess having an extra set of eyes did help. 432 00:19:42,138 --> 00:19:45,641 We saw a couple of strange lights in the skies, as they say, 433 00:19:45,642 --> 00:19:46,977 when we first got here, 434 00:19:46,977 --> 00:19:49,104 and we saw a few more about an hour later. 435 00:19:49,145 --> 00:19:50,563 It's kinda getting cloudy, 436 00:19:50,605 --> 00:19:52,191 so we figure we'll pack it in for tonight 437 00:19:52,231 --> 00:19:54,483 and make it back out tomorrow night. 438 00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:58,322 - When a team member spots an anomalous object, 439 00:19:58,363 --> 00:20:02,491 the protocol is to immediately contact the rest of the team 440 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:05,037 to see if they are able to capture 441 00:20:05,077 --> 00:20:07,623 the same object from different angles. 442 00:20:07,663 --> 00:20:10,125 And they also have to record what they capture, 443 00:20:10,166 --> 00:20:12,836 and send the recording to our scientists. 444 00:20:12,877 --> 00:20:16,130 Well, the cell communication failed on that day. 445 00:20:16,173 --> 00:20:20,176 But the recordings were sent to the scientists for analysis. 446 00:20:20,176 --> 00:20:22,221 This is our first capture. 447 00:20:22,261 --> 00:20:26,015 We can't get too excited yet, but being the first day, 448 00:20:26,016 --> 00:20:28,185 I guess this is a good sign. 449 00:20:29,853 --> 00:20:32,564 (soothing music) 450 00:20:45,368 --> 00:20:46,077 - Good morning gentlemen. 451 00:20:46,118 --> 00:20:47,036 - Good morning. 452 00:20:47,078 --> 00:20:48,955 - So we got everything out, 453 00:20:48,997 --> 00:20:50,207 We got half our equipment up, 454 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,209 did you get the radiation detector running? 455 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:54,544 - Yes I did, I got it running. 456 00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:56,046 - How is the UFODAP? 457 00:20:56,087 --> 00:20:58,214 - UFODAP got a new software pushed out to me, 458 00:20:58,214 --> 00:21:00,384 I'll get it installed and running today. 459 00:21:00,424 --> 00:21:02,344 - Roger that, how's the cosmic watch? 460 00:21:02,385 --> 00:21:04,680 - It's all patched up and ready to go. 461 00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,056 - All right, roger that. 462 00:21:06,097 --> 00:21:07,848 Everything going good. 463 00:21:07,891 --> 00:21:09,183 Jason, anything to report? 464 00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:10,936 - No, I think we're all good, looks good to go. 465 00:21:10,978 --> 00:21:11,728 - All right. 466 00:21:11,769 --> 00:21:13,020 Well, let's work hard, 467 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:14,564 let's get everything up and running by noon. 468 00:21:14,564 --> 00:21:16,441 We need to get as much possible time, 469 00:21:16,482 --> 00:21:17,650 data recording while we're here. 470 00:21:17,692 --> 00:21:20,945 This is our opportunity, let's get it done. 471 00:21:20,988 --> 00:21:22,614 - Excellent, let's do it. - All right. 472 00:21:25,575 --> 00:21:27,786 - Half of our equipment is experimental, 473 00:21:27,827 --> 00:21:32,249 the other half is well, some of it's old, 474 00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:34,710 and some of it's not and some of it's cutting edge. 475 00:21:34,750 --> 00:21:36,961 So it's just a matter of, 476 00:21:37,003 --> 00:21:39,839 hopefully it'll all work. (chuckles) 477 00:21:39,881 --> 00:21:42,134 (cool music) 478 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:47,764 Where should we put this? 479 00:21:47,806 --> 00:21:49,641 - Well guys, I think that the primary place 480 00:21:49,682 --> 00:21:50,933 is gonna be right here in the corner 481 00:21:50,976 --> 00:21:52,311 about where I'm standing. 482 00:21:52,352 --> 00:21:53,769 - All right, we've got... 483 00:21:53,769 --> 00:21:57,773 - We've got a pretty perfect view of Catalina from here. 484 00:21:57,773 --> 00:22:00,234 We've got unrestricted airspace over top of us. 485 00:22:02,362 --> 00:22:06,950 So you guys, this is actually the little brother 486 00:22:06,991 --> 00:22:08,659 of what I've got in the OSIRIS. 487 00:22:10,037 --> 00:22:13,789 We've got the magnetometers, we've got the GPS, 488 00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:15,792 we've got wireless connectivity, 489 00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:19,462 we've got all the barometric pressure, weather indicators, 490 00:22:19,462 --> 00:22:23,133 ADSB, we can track known aircraft with this. 491 00:22:23,133 --> 00:22:25,344 And the best part about this is, I can see this, 492 00:22:25,384 --> 00:22:27,304 I can control this from the OSIRIS. 493 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:29,806 So if this thing's putting out any signals, 494 00:22:29,806 --> 00:22:30,723 we're gonna get it? 495 00:22:32,808 --> 00:22:35,311 - One of my friends, Travis Taylor, 496 00:22:35,311 --> 00:22:37,355 who is an astrophysicist, 497 00:22:37,396 --> 00:22:41,192 has been involved in studying anomalous events and UAPs 498 00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:44,820 from a scientific perspective for a long time. 499 00:22:44,863 --> 00:22:47,574 So I thought I would invite him to check out our setup, 500 00:22:47,615 --> 00:22:50,826 and get his take on some of the new technology 501 00:22:50,868 --> 00:22:53,413 and equipment we brought along. 502 00:22:53,454 --> 00:22:54,413 - I'm really optimistic. 503 00:22:54,455 --> 00:22:56,165 This is great for the first day. 504 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,334 - And we're gonna have to go through 505 00:22:57,334 --> 00:22:59,169 this frame by frame. - Hey guys. 506 00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:00,378 - Hey. - Look who's here. 507 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:01,712 - Hey, hey, Travis. - Hey Travis. 508 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:03,006 It's been a long time. 509 00:23:03,006 --> 00:23:04,508 Two years, I think since the conference. 510 00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,175 - You guys know each other? 511 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:07,344 - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 512 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:08,345 - Oh okay. 513 00:23:08,386 --> 00:23:09,929 This is David Mason. 514 00:23:09,971 --> 00:23:13,016 He's the brains behind all the inventions, 515 00:23:13,057 --> 00:23:15,894 but we have two major brains here as well. 516 00:23:15,935 --> 00:23:17,520 Wait till you see what's upstairs, 517 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,730 it's crazy stuff. - Wow. 518 00:23:19,772 --> 00:23:21,690 - Would you like to give him a tour? 519 00:23:21,691 --> 00:23:23,192 - Absolutely. - Awesome. 520 00:23:23,234 --> 00:23:24,735 - Well, I'd love to see it. - All right, perfect. 521 00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:28,155 - I'm really excited to see the instrumentation, 522 00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:31,076 the planning that these guys have put into this experiment. 523 00:23:31,117 --> 00:23:34,370 It's gonna change the culture in the world. 524 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:35,830 Scientists are gonna have to start taking 525 00:23:35,872 --> 00:23:37,624 this more seriously if we're gonna get 526 00:23:37,665 --> 00:23:39,250 to the bottom of the phenomenon. 527 00:23:39,291 --> 00:23:42,253 So I hear some chirps and clicks. 528 00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:44,214 - The chirps are gamma radiation, 529 00:23:44,256 --> 00:23:45,507 which are higher energy particles 530 00:23:45,548 --> 00:23:48,300 and then the clicking is the beta radiation. 531 00:23:48,343 --> 00:23:50,345 - Yeah. - Which are softer energy. 532 00:23:50,386 --> 00:23:52,054 - What part of the spectrum are you able to look at? 533 00:23:52,096 --> 00:23:55,016 - From about 10 megahertz up to about two gigahertz. 534 00:23:55,057 --> 00:23:57,935 - So you can see all the radio stations and TV stations, 535 00:23:57,978 --> 00:24:00,020 and ham bands, and everything that everybody would use. 536 00:24:00,063 --> 00:24:02,357 So if something's there that shouldn't be there, 537 00:24:02,398 --> 00:24:03,107 then you'll see it? 538 00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:04,442 - Absolutely. 539 00:24:04,483 --> 00:24:05,526 - So what else you got here? 540 00:24:05,568 --> 00:24:07,570 - We've got eight FLIR thermal cameras running. 541 00:24:07,570 --> 00:24:08,696 - [Travis] Oh wow. 542 00:24:08,738 --> 00:24:10,240 And so you can see pretty much the whole sky, 543 00:24:10,281 --> 00:24:11,449 in FLIR if you want to at night. 544 00:24:11,490 --> 00:24:12,701 - [David] Absolutely. 545 00:24:12,741 --> 00:24:14,411 - Normally, UAP researchers have one FLIR 546 00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:16,580 looking like that way or that way. 547 00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:19,249 Now you can look all over, right? 548 00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:22,043 - Many of the unknown objects I have recorded 549 00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:25,297 often register temperatures minus 20 Fahrenheit. 550 00:24:25,337 --> 00:24:28,383 I've even had some down to minus 80 Fahrenheit, 551 00:24:28,424 --> 00:24:30,634 which is just extraordinarily cold. 552 00:24:30,676 --> 00:24:34,430 Exhibit no exhaust, and no explanation for it. 553 00:24:36,098 --> 00:24:37,308 - [Travis] So what's this thing? 554 00:24:37,349 --> 00:24:39,477 - [David] This is a light wave transmitter. 555 00:24:39,519 --> 00:24:43,397 - So, it's connected to a laser or something over here? 556 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,109 - It's connected to a light wave transmitter assembly. 557 00:24:46,108 --> 00:24:48,153 There seems to be an oddity about them 558 00:24:48,194 --> 00:24:50,989 because the people report that they pulsate. 559 00:24:51,030 --> 00:24:52,781 And my theory is that there must be 560 00:24:52,781 --> 00:24:54,326 some sort of information or data. 561 00:24:54,366 --> 00:24:57,662 - So what if a UAP is off in the distance, 562 00:24:57,703 --> 00:24:59,413 and it's modulating its brightness, 563 00:24:59,455 --> 00:25:00,748 changing its brightness. 564 00:25:00,789 --> 00:25:03,375 With information pattern, they're communicating with us, 565 00:25:03,417 --> 00:25:04,293 right? - That's the theory I have. 566 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,961 - And when you convert that to sound, 567 00:25:06,003 --> 00:25:09,423 our brains and our ears and various computer algorithms 568 00:25:09,465 --> 00:25:10,966 could find a pattern in that. 569 00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:12,301 - That's correct. 570 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,304 We can also take that sound that we receive, 571 00:25:14,304 --> 00:25:15,805 and put it right back on the transmitter- 572 00:25:15,846 --> 00:25:16,972 - And send it right back to it. 573 00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:18,432 - Right back to 'em. 574 00:25:18,474 --> 00:25:19,850 So if they're sending out data we don't understand, 575 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:21,519 we can say, "Here you go." 576 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,145 - Well see, and that's the first protocol 577 00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:26,107 in any communication is you say, hello world. 578 00:25:26,148 --> 00:25:27,483 If you hear hello world, 579 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:29,318 you say hello world right back to them. 580 00:25:29,361 --> 00:25:31,488 So, what's really cool about this is 581 00:25:31,529 --> 00:25:36,367 you've got a capability here to maybe detect communications, 582 00:25:36,409 --> 00:25:38,870 and rebroadcast those communications 583 00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:42,665 in both electromagnetic, or radio station, microwave, 584 00:25:42,665 --> 00:25:47,671 all that, optical, ultraviolet, visible and infrared light, 585 00:25:48,587 --> 00:25:50,173 as well as temperature. 586 00:25:50,173 --> 00:25:51,508 That gives you a broad range 587 00:25:51,508 --> 00:25:53,759 of where potential communications might be. 588 00:25:53,801 --> 00:25:56,679 We have no idea how the UAPs might be communicating. 589 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,014 - That's right. 590 00:25:58,056 --> 00:25:59,557 - I'm really impressed. 591 00:25:59,598 --> 00:26:02,101 This is exciting, and I can't wait to see it working, 592 00:26:02,143 --> 00:26:04,854 and hopefully we see a UAP and talk to it. 593 00:26:04,895 --> 00:26:05,688 - I'd like to do that. 594 00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:07,231 - I would too. 595 00:26:07,273 --> 00:26:09,858 (intense music) 596 00:26:11,111 --> 00:26:13,863 - We wanna use really high tech gear 597 00:26:13,863 --> 00:26:15,740 to collect some techno signatures. 598 00:26:15,781 --> 00:26:18,492 We're hoping to be able to use that technology, 599 00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:21,454 if we do find them to actually handshake these things, 600 00:26:21,496 --> 00:26:22,872 or maybe even talk to 'em. 601 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,879 - I gotta tell you guys, after having a tour of 602 00:26:29,878 --> 00:26:31,548 what you've got here, I'm really impressed. 603 00:26:31,589 --> 00:26:34,091 You're covering the phenomenologies 604 00:26:34,134 --> 00:26:36,094 across the spectrum of physics. 605 00:26:36,135 --> 00:26:39,013 I've never seen anything as singularly focused 606 00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:41,557 as this effort for one particular type of phenomena. 607 00:26:41,557 --> 00:26:43,058 - So here's another one of these, 608 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,519 can't take credit for this, but this is a designed 609 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,438 by my friends and colleagues at MIT. 610 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,566 This is just a general radiation detector 611 00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:52,568 to look for anything that's anomalous 612 00:26:52,568 --> 00:26:56,239 above a normal background reading in a given location. 613 00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:58,825 (intense music) 614 00:27:30,565 --> 00:27:31,732 - I got another one. - Nice. 615 00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,317 - Look Mike, Mike it's... 616 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,652 Oh my God! 617 00:27:34,693 --> 00:27:35,694 - Okay. 618 00:27:35,737 --> 00:27:38,031 - Look towards, it's right there. 619 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,451 I'm not taking off of it this time. 620 00:27:41,451 --> 00:27:42,993 You see it? - Oh man, that's big. 621 00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,746 - [Dave] Yeah, that's not a plane. 622 00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:49,541 And it just showed up out of nowhere. 623 00:27:49,584 --> 00:27:51,461 - [Mike] Okay, let's see if we can get this on tape. 624 00:27:51,461 --> 00:27:52,796 - [Dave] Yep. 625 00:27:52,836 --> 00:27:56,465 (intense music continues) 626 00:28:00,511 --> 00:28:01,971 - I got it. - Yep, you got it? 627 00:28:03,431 --> 00:28:05,850 I wanna see it until it's gone, I wanna see how it travels. 628 00:28:05,892 --> 00:28:08,394 - See how it leaves. - Yep, that's what I want. 629 00:28:13,525 --> 00:28:16,569 It's not a star, it wasn't there before. 630 00:28:18,654 --> 00:28:20,781 And that would be a really bright star. 631 00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:23,618 There's no way that's a star, that was not there. 632 00:28:23,660 --> 00:28:25,620 - [Mike] It's pretty low in the horizon too. 633 00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:26,663 - [Dave] Yeah. 634 00:28:26,663 --> 00:28:29,207 (phone ringing) 635 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,503 - Hey Michael, go ahead. 636 00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:37,548 - Hey, we just saw something quite anomalous, 637 00:28:37,589 --> 00:28:40,843 and Dave and I both got it on tape 638 00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:43,763 from our night vision photography. 639 00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:46,474 Different angles, same object. 640 00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:48,685 - All right, I need to know bearing, elevation, 641 00:28:48,684 --> 00:28:50,352 which way is it going? 642 00:28:50,353 --> 00:28:53,565 - 300 degrees Northwest is where it finally appeared 643 00:28:53,605 --> 00:28:58,611 in front of us, to about 29 degrees Northeast, 644 00:28:59,820 --> 00:29:03,574 and disappeared in the clouds towards the mainland 645 00:29:03,615 --> 00:29:04,951 where you guys are. 646 00:29:04,992 --> 00:29:06,577 - All right, Michael, I'm looking on ADSB 647 00:29:06,618 --> 00:29:09,872 and M-Lab right now, we've got no aircraft in the vicinity 648 00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:11,207 of the island right now. 649 00:29:11,207 --> 00:29:13,251 We've got a couple coming up the coast, 650 00:29:13,292 --> 00:29:16,378 and we've got one heading South towards the island, 651 00:29:16,378 --> 00:29:19,757 but there is nothing that has either tracked, 652 00:29:19,798 --> 00:29:21,425 or is tracking in the directionality 653 00:29:21,468 --> 00:29:22,802 that you were talking about. 654 00:29:22,844 --> 00:29:26,306 - All right, Jason look 30 degrees towards the island. 655 00:29:26,346 --> 00:29:29,600 So gimme a description of it, like what did it look like? 656 00:29:29,642 --> 00:29:33,354 - It was just a solid white spherical object. 657 00:29:33,395 --> 00:29:35,731 - Put your hands in front of those two cameras for me. 658 00:29:37,317 --> 00:29:39,903 All right, all right, mark it on those two cameras 659 00:29:39,943 --> 00:29:44,072 for two to three minutes ago, so we can check the recording. 660 00:29:44,115 --> 00:29:48,995 (indistinct) We got a object on two different cameras. 661 00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:51,748 - Be right there. 662 00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:57,796 - All right, so this is happening.(chuckles) 663 00:29:57,836 --> 00:30:01,132 We just had a triple gamma repeating frequency just now. 664 00:30:02,090 --> 00:30:02,800 - Really? 665 00:30:02,842 --> 00:30:03,634 - Yep. 666 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:06,261 Where's it Matt? 667 00:30:06,261 --> 00:30:07,806 - I'm gonna go look with the night vision 668 00:30:07,846 --> 00:30:09,848 because we need to be watching for these things. 669 00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:11,267 - Yeah, we need to be in the sky. 670 00:30:11,308 --> 00:30:12,226 - And keep your eyes peeled, 671 00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:16,439 we're getting a lot of triple spikes on- 672 00:30:16,439 --> 00:30:18,066 - On gamma. - On gamma. 673 00:30:18,106 --> 00:30:21,653 - [Micheal] I'm seeing a blinking white light. 674 00:30:21,693 --> 00:30:23,445 - Hey, Jeremy? 675 00:30:23,488 --> 00:30:26,740 Jeremy, I think it's time to get a third vantage point. 676 00:30:26,782 --> 00:30:27,866 We're gonna take off. 677 00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:29,326 - All right, guys. 678 00:30:29,368 --> 00:30:32,704 Right out by Avalon, just left of Avalon, 679 00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:36,334 there was a bright flash, a couple flashes. 680 00:30:36,375 --> 00:30:37,335 - [Jeremy] We got certain 737 MAX 681 00:30:37,376 --> 00:30:39,211 coming in towards us. 682 00:30:39,253 --> 00:30:43,465 - No, I saw the plane up, it's about 45 degrees altitude, 683 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:46,803 but this was level with Avalon. 684 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:48,637 - Oh, it's on the horizon? - On the horizon. 685 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,806 Really bright flash. - Yeah, we got one coming. 686 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:52,307 - I'm coming. - Straight across their path. 687 00:30:52,349 --> 00:30:53,809 - Yeah, you're seeing this on the horizon. 688 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:55,186 - It would be on our horizon. 689 00:30:55,228 --> 00:30:56,479 - Would you say add Avalon? - Right here. 690 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,730 - Yeah, it was just to the left of Avalon. 691 00:31:00,023 --> 00:31:02,818 And it was like three really bright flashes several times. 692 00:31:02,861 --> 00:31:03,987 - All right, Jim. 693 00:31:03,987 --> 00:31:04,988 - Yeah. - Let's roll. 694 00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,740 (upbeat music) 695 00:31:12,912 --> 00:31:13,954 - Hey Matthew. 696 00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:15,373 - Hey, what's going on up here? 697 00:31:15,414 --> 00:31:17,332 - [Gary] I've been getting spikes of- 698 00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:18,877 - [Mathew] This is an increase in radiation. 699 00:31:18,917 --> 00:31:20,836 - And it's been increasingly gaining, 700 00:31:20,836 --> 00:31:23,506 Sometimes the amplitudes were plateauing out 701 00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:25,341 where it couldn't go anymore. 702 00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:26,592 (Mathew chuckles) 703 00:31:26,634 --> 00:31:29,011 - Like literally in the last five, 10 minutes, 704 00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:30,847 we're getting like three bursts? 705 00:31:30,888 --> 00:31:32,347 - But to get anything from miles away, 706 00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:35,476 that means it must be an incredibly high flux source. 707 00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:36,728 Just like a light bulb, 708 00:31:36,769 --> 00:31:38,479 everything spreads out in three dimensions. 709 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,107 In order to get a reading of anything from an object 710 00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:44,277 that's really far away, that means it has 711 00:31:44,318 --> 00:31:46,486 to be an incredibly intense source. 712 00:31:46,528 --> 00:31:47,821 - Wow. - Of whatever it's producing. 713 00:31:47,864 --> 00:31:50,533 But this is more interesting if we can correlate this 714 00:31:50,532 --> 00:31:52,200 as a spike being at the same time 715 00:31:52,201 --> 00:31:53,827 as the visual observations. 716 00:31:53,869 --> 00:31:54,828 - I'm so excited. 717 00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:56,163 - I'm very excited, but we need to make sure 718 00:31:56,204 --> 00:31:59,750 it's not airplane, or satellite, although, 719 00:31:59,791 --> 00:32:00,709 that's what's so great 720 00:32:00,751 --> 00:32:02,336 about our set up that makes it unique. 721 00:32:02,377 --> 00:32:04,880 Because as far as I know, there's no such thing 722 00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:08,050 as a radioactive bird or plane. 723 00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:11,471 So that kind of starts to help rule out 724 00:32:11,511 --> 00:32:13,722 mundane explanations like that. 725 00:32:13,765 --> 00:32:16,351 (intense music) 726 00:32:59,018 --> 00:33:01,938 - Yeah, dude, there's nobody at, you see where it's going? 727 00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:03,940 - All right. 728 00:33:06,233 --> 00:33:07,401 - There's ain't nobody 729 00:33:07,442 --> 00:33:10,445 coming out here. - We'll be done with it. 730 00:33:13,031 --> 00:33:16,868 - [Gadget Prompt] Power on. Rewind. 731 00:33:16,911 --> 00:33:21,958 - (indistinct) All right, she's running. 732 00:33:28,964 --> 00:33:31,509 - All right, we're operational right now, so. 733 00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:34,136 - All right, they got the UFODAP operational 734 00:33:34,136 --> 00:33:35,679 over where they're at. 735 00:33:35,721 --> 00:33:38,891 They're basically somewhere about five miles away. 736 00:33:38,932 --> 00:33:39,850 - Can you see the laser? 737 00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:41,936 - Around the 10 miles figure? 738 00:33:41,978 --> 00:33:46,983 - Yeah, I mean, look, these other traffic heading that way. 739 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:48,567 It's all coming this way. 740 00:33:48,608 --> 00:33:49,860 - Yeah. 741 00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:50,944 - [Chrissy] We're getting triple bursts here. 742 00:33:50,987 --> 00:33:51,696 - [Gary] Yeah- 743 00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:52,739 - [Chrissy] Oh yeah, 744 00:33:52,779 --> 00:33:53,990 we gotta another one. - We've got another triple. 745 00:33:54,031 --> 00:33:55,032 - [Chrissy] Awesome. 746 00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:56,325 - We got a lot of triples coming through guys, 747 00:33:56,366 --> 00:33:57,326 keep an eye out. 748 00:33:59,703 --> 00:34:04,000 - We saw some anomalous objects that are not satellites, 749 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,876 that are not drones. 750 00:34:05,917 --> 00:34:09,337 The fact that these things were solid in color, 751 00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:13,217 round to ovoid shape, moving in an anomalous pattern, 752 00:34:13,259 --> 00:34:15,677 no sound, that was incredible. 753 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,305 (intense music) 754 00:34:19,264 --> 00:34:20,849 - [Gary] You see it? 755 00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:22,934 - It didn't activate the camera at all, it just... 756 00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:26,230 That was bright as hell! 757 00:34:26,271 --> 00:34:28,356 - Yeah, it was bright, bro. 758 00:34:28,398 --> 00:34:30,567 It went right across the screen, like right here. 759 00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:31,736 - Yep. - Like that and- 760 00:34:31,777 --> 00:34:33,904 - Did you see it on the... 761 00:34:33,945 --> 00:34:34,947 - No, it never showed. 762 00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:36,157 Okay, that's the weird part. 763 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,159 It never showed on the Fisheye. 764 00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,370 So the Fisheye never triggered the PTZ. 765 00:34:41,411 --> 00:34:43,455 I only saw it on the PTZ camera. 766 00:34:44,414 --> 00:34:46,708 (phone ringing) 767 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,045 - Just trying to check in, see what you guys are going on. 768 00:34:49,086 --> 00:34:51,880 - All right, so we got some weirdness happening here. 769 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,382 - Hey, what did you get? - We saw an object, 770 00:34:53,423 --> 00:34:56,259 only on the PTZ camera. 771 00:34:56,302 --> 00:34:59,555 It did not show up on the Fisheye. 772 00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:03,059 And I've never seen where I've got two cameras 773 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:04,769 within two feet of each other, 774 00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,438 one can see the object and the other one cannot. 775 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,608 So it's literally an anomalous thing where one camera 776 00:35:11,650 --> 00:35:14,694 is seeing a cloud and the object, 777 00:35:14,737 --> 00:35:17,907 when the other camera is seeing just the cloud, 778 00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:20,742 but I can't see the object where it should be. 779 00:35:20,784 --> 00:35:22,786 It's just not there. 780 00:35:22,829 --> 00:35:25,581 It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. 781 00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:28,251 (ominous music) 782 00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:35,466 - It's fading- - It's gone. 783 00:35:35,507 --> 00:35:36,259 It's gone. 784 00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:37,050 - It's freaking gone. 785 00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:39,512 It's just gone. 786 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:41,597 - It disappeared, man. - Yeah, disappeared. 787 00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:42,932 - Holy Macro! 788 00:35:42,931 --> 00:35:44,099 - Did you get that on video disappearing? 789 00:35:44,141 --> 00:35:44,850 - Yes I did. 790 00:35:44,891 --> 00:35:46,018 - Wow. 791 00:35:46,059 --> 00:35:48,478 (bouncy music) 792 00:35:57,112 --> 00:35:58,114 - Hey David. 793 00:35:58,114 --> 00:35:59,115 - Yeah. 794 00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:03,952 - I was looking over the cosmic watch records, 795 00:36:03,952 --> 00:36:07,164 and I found a couple of high rate events 796 00:36:07,206 --> 00:36:09,166 and a high energy event. 797 00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:13,546 And that was between 6:07 and 6:13 P.M. 798 00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:16,798 Do you have anything on the FLIR at that time? 799 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,925 - Yeah, we have an anomalous object, 800 00:36:18,967 --> 00:36:21,303 and this thing is like an elongated, 801 00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:24,097 I don't know what to call it 'cause it's not an aircraft, 802 00:36:24,139 --> 00:36:27,643 it's not a bird, it's not a bug, it doesn't fit all 803 00:36:27,684 --> 00:36:30,313 of the prosaic objects that we are aware of. 804 00:36:30,353 --> 00:36:32,022 And you notice that it's moving 805 00:36:32,063 --> 00:36:34,482 where it's contradictory to its trajectory. 806 00:36:34,483 --> 00:36:37,486 So it's like it's moving sideways against the wind, 807 00:36:37,527 --> 00:36:39,654 if it were an aerial object. 808 00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:43,784 - This looks pretty similar to the Nimitz Tic Tac incident. 809 00:36:43,826 --> 00:36:45,702 - It does, it does look like that. 810 00:36:47,163 --> 00:36:51,000 - [Pilot] (yells) Got it, (laughing) woo hoo! 811 00:36:51,041 --> 00:36:52,000 We're going against the wind. 812 00:36:52,043 --> 00:36:53,878 The wind's 120 miles to the West. 813 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,173 - And there was a 32 MeV event. 814 00:36:58,173 --> 00:37:01,384 I mean, within the time synchronization of certainty. 815 00:37:01,427 --> 00:37:03,179 - And Matthew, I've got some else here. 816 00:37:03,221 --> 00:37:07,974 It is an object, appears suddenly in the camera, and then- 817 00:37:08,016 --> 00:37:08,893 - Well, what was that? 818 00:37:08,934 --> 00:37:09,726 Oh, there's a- 819 00:37:11,186 --> 00:37:13,480 - The object appears and then moves off screen 820 00:37:13,521 --> 00:37:15,065 rather suddenly, and then now it looks 821 00:37:15,106 --> 00:37:16,358 like it's reappearing. 822 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,193 - Is that the same object coming back? 823 00:37:18,235 --> 00:37:20,695 - Could be, I mean, it looks like it's in the same location. 824 00:37:20,737 --> 00:37:22,239 Did you just see how it zigzagged? 825 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,740 It just moved in and moved out. 826 00:37:23,782 --> 00:37:25,034 This is exciting. 827 00:37:25,076 --> 00:37:26,117 - [Mathew] Certainly anomalous, right? 828 00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:27,536 We're not gonna be able to explain that easily. 829 00:37:27,577 --> 00:37:28,913 - Not very easily. 830 00:37:28,954 --> 00:37:31,039 You can't use all the prosaic explanations 831 00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:34,251 of bird bugs or aircraft on this one. 832 00:37:34,293 --> 00:37:36,503 And then check this out, we have a object 833 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,923 that it'll appear in the frame- 834 00:37:39,965 --> 00:37:41,342 - [Mathew] Well, what is that? 835 00:37:41,384 --> 00:37:42,550 - [David] You see that? 836 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:44,219 - [Mathew] Yeah. 837 00:37:44,219 --> 00:37:47,555 - [David] What is strange is, it's registering cold 838 00:37:47,597 --> 00:37:51,893 in the thermal camera over several pixels, 839 00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:54,063 and it has some motion to it. 840 00:37:54,063 --> 00:37:56,106 It looks like it rotates or tilts, 841 00:37:56,148 --> 00:37:59,902 and appears, and then dissipates out of the frame. 842 00:37:59,943 --> 00:38:00,860 - [Mathew] That's even weirder than 843 00:38:00,902 --> 00:38:01,861 the other things you showed me. 844 00:38:01,903 --> 00:38:02,612 - Yes. 845 00:38:02,655 --> 00:38:03,572 - What time was this at? 846 00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:05,699 - At 9:29 P.M. 847 00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:09,244 - That matches in time to the night vision videos 848 00:38:09,286 --> 00:38:11,079 that we got from the island team. 849 00:38:11,121 --> 00:38:12,748 Yeah, that's when they called in 850 00:38:12,748 --> 00:38:14,791 with their night vision videos. 851 00:38:14,833 --> 00:38:17,460 They saw an anomalous object and we also saw 852 00:38:17,503 --> 00:38:19,088 an anomalous object in the FLIR. 853 00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:20,756 That would be a remarkable coincidence. 854 00:38:20,797 --> 00:38:22,090 - [David] That would be remarkable. 855 00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:24,301 However, it just appear, and then just disappear 856 00:38:24,342 --> 00:38:27,637 without leaving the frame, without showing a path. 857 00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:30,140 This was just in there and then it wasn't in there. 858 00:38:30,181 --> 00:38:31,266 - It's fading- - It's gone. 859 00:38:31,266 --> 00:38:33,184 - It's gone. - It's freaking gone. 860 00:38:33,226 --> 00:38:35,186 - Another interesting fact about this is that 861 00:38:35,228 --> 00:38:38,481 this particular camera was aimed at a 45 degree angle 862 00:38:38,523 --> 00:38:40,317 toward Catalina Island. 863 00:38:40,358 --> 00:38:42,277 - So could conceive it would be 864 00:38:42,277 --> 00:38:44,112 the same object. - Same object. 865 00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:46,324 Yep, because they're triangulating from their perspective, 866 00:38:46,364 --> 00:38:49,951 and then we're triangulating and converging at two points. 867 00:38:49,952 --> 00:38:53,164 - That would mean that we have seen the same object, 868 00:38:53,204 --> 00:38:55,790 not only from different angles, 869 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:57,835 but also three different wavelengths; 870 00:38:57,876 --> 00:39:01,172 visible light and two different kinds of infrared, right? 871 00:39:01,213 --> 00:39:05,009 So that is unprecedented in the history of UAP research. 872 00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:07,177 - Having correlating day from different instruments, 873 00:39:07,219 --> 00:39:09,637 with different wavelengths, including radiation. 874 00:39:09,679 --> 00:39:10,847 That's just phenomenal. 875 00:39:13,224 --> 00:39:17,480 - In science, it's very important, especially when studying 876 00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:20,858 an unknown phenomenon, to be able to 877 00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,987 have multiple different modes or modalities of studying it, 878 00:39:25,028 --> 00:39:27,364 and being able to look at correlations 879 00:39:27,405 --> 00:39:28,865 between different devices 880 00:39:28,907 --> 00:39:30,701 that are studying the same phenomenon. 881 00:39:30,742 --> 00:39:35,038 This reduces the probability of equipment malfunction, 882 00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:37,666 glitches and things like that because the probability 883 00:39:37,666 --> 00:39:42,254 was greatly reduced of something being accidental, 884 00:39:42,295 --> 00:39:45,173 if you can see it across different devices, 885 00:39:45,173 --> 00:39:47,384 especially those different devices 886 00:39:47,425 --> 00:39:49,552 are based on different technologies, 887 00:39:49,594 --> 00:39:52,639 and are looking at the same thing, different ways. 888 00:39:54,182 --> 00:39:58,938 - Today, July 14th, 2021 is an exciting eventful day. 889 00:40:00,188 --> 00:40:03,817 At 5:26 PM, a pink object appears, 890 00:40:03,858 --> 00:40:06,319 makes a U-turn, exits frame. 891 00:40:06,362 --> 00:40:07,655 Very anomalous. 892 00:40:07,695 --> 00:40:12,659 6:07 P.M., a high-energy radiation registers 32.32 MeV. 893 00:40:15,246 --> 00:40:19,208 6:09 P.M. we capture another Tic Tac like object, 894 00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:20,876 traveling sideways. 895 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:24,213 Could these be the same Navy Tic Tacs that were observed 896 00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:29,260 in 2004 by the USS Nimitz, then by other ships from 2014, 897 00:40:30,302 --> 00:40:33,222 all the way to 2019? 898 00:40:33,222 --> 00:40:34,723 That would be incredible. 899 00:40:34,764 --> 00:40:39,769 Later that evening at 9:29 P.M., the Catalina team captures 900 00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:43,106 an anomalous object, solid in color 901 00:40:43,148 --> 00:40:47,110 on two night vision cameras and one CCD camera, 902 00:40:47,152 --> 00:40:50,238 which correlates with the solid object caught 903 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,574 on our FLIR camera. 904 00:40:51,614 --> 00:40:54,367 Now this object registers cold, 905 00:40:54,409 --> 00:40:58,413 which means it has no propulsion system that we know of. 906 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:01,500 The object suddenly disappears simultaneously 907 00:41:01,541 --> 00:41:04,252 out of sight from the multiple angles. 908 00:41:04,295 --> 00:41:07,548 Even more intriguing is that at the same time, 909 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:12,303 the OSIRIS registers one anomalous object on one camera, 910 00:41:12,344 --> 00:41:14,096 but not the other. 911 00:41:14,096 --> 00:41:17,932 These are very intriguing, very compelling events, 912 00:41:17,932 --> 00:41:20,603 and astounding correlations. 913 00:41:20,603 --> 00:41:22,855 I think today was a breakthrough 914 00:41:22,896 --> 00:41:24,648 in our expedition and research. 915 00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:26,275 I am very hopeful. 916 00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:29,110 We're finally on the right track in uncovering 917 00:41:29,152 --> 00:41:31,654 what these Tic Tac objects may be, 918 00:41:31,697 --> 00:41:36,702 or at least getting more evidential data on UAPs and UFOs. 919 00:41:37,619 --> 00:41:40,663 (air whooshing) 920 00:41:40,706 --> 00:41:45,461 - It takes just one credible irrefutable piece of evidence 921 00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:48,672 to change all of world history. 922 00:41:48,713 --> 00:41:51,342 The entire literature of the human race 923 00:41:51,382 --> 00:41:55,471 would have to be changed if we had just one incident 924 00:41:55,512 --> 00:41:56,639 that is irrefutable. 925 00:41:58,139 --> 00:42:01,851 - Science is also about the skills of data analysis. 926 00:42:01,893 --> 00:42:04,354 It's not just the hardware, it's the software. 927 00:42:04,396 --> 00:42:06,440 And I don't just mean computer software, 928 00:42:06,481 --> 00:42:09,442 I mean our human minds and our intelligence 929 00:42:09,485 --> 00:42:12,112 in applying it to analyzing the data. 930 00:42:12,153 --> 00:42:14,864 - So here's the first one right here, 931 00:42:14,907 --> 00:42:18,369 and the night was pretty clear, so you have to be careful 932 00:42:18,409 --> 00:42:19,869 not to be fooled 933 00:42:19,911 --> 00:42:22,705 by a lot of fuzzy splashes, obviously stars. 934 00:42:22,748 --> 00:42:25,416 You'll also see a lot of fast objects go by, 935 00:42:25,458 --> 00:42:29,003 which I'm pretty sure are meteors, but what is that? 936 00:42:29,003 --> 00:42:30,172 - No, that's- 937 00:42:30,213 --> 00:42:32,007 - What is that slow moving object? 938 00:42:32,048 --> 00:42:33,259 - And it's changing speed, 939 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,344 it just slowed down and curved a little bit. 940 00:42:35,385 --> 00:42:37,762 - It's changing angle and it's not blinking. 941 00:42:37,804 --> 00:42:39,389 It's not blinking like an airplane would, 942 00:42:39,431 --> 00:42:40,557 with airplane lights. 943 00:42:41,432 --> 00:42:43,686 - Part of the scientific analysis 944 00:42:43,686 --> 00:42:46,063 is to carefully rule out objects 945 00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,565 that can easily be taken for UFOs. 946 00:42:48,606 --> 00:42:52,193 For example, a human made advanced technology, 947 00:42:52,235 --> 00:42:55,364 or a mirage-like object, or an aura 948 00:42:55,405 --> 00:43:00,411 that can easily mimic a UFO because of reflectivity 949 00:43:01,494 --> 00:43:04,248 or some other atmospheric event. 950 00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:10,546 - There is a phenomena that you haven't mentioned. 951 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:11,547 - Yes? 952 00:43:11,588 --> 00:43:16,217 - We know that whales sing songs. 953 00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,262 And we know that whales can hear them 954 00:43:19,554 --> 00:43:21,306 across the ocean, 1,000 miles away. 955 00:43:22,557 --> 00:43:25,393 The sound bounces off layers 956 00:43:25,393 --> 00:43:27,979 of water of different temperatures, 957 00:43:28,021 --> 00:43:31,275 and then can be heart many miles away. 958 00:43:31,317 --> 00:43:33,152 That same phenomena applies to light. 959 00:43:33,193 --> 00:43:34,278 You're aware of that, right? 960 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,613 - Mm-hmm. 961 00:43:35,653 --> 00:43:38,532 - Fata Morgana is a mirage when people, 962 00:43:38,574 --> 00:43:43,077 and I've seen this myself, seen something on a rock 963 00:43:43,077 --> 00:43:45,748 or some distance away in the desert. 964 00:43:45,789 --> 00:43:49,251 And you could sometimes see a weird thing. 965 00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:51,420 And when you came upon it, it disappeared. 966 00:43:51,461 --> 00:43:53,588 Something happening over there, 967 00:43:54,797 --> 00:43:58,885 the light bounces off a hot layer of air over there, 968 00:43:58,927 --> 00:44:00,637 and appears over here. 969 00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:05,684 So those floating ships that we've seen, mirages, 970 00:44:06,934 --> 00:44:09,896 and many, many other objects, the explanation is that 971 00:44:11,981 --> 00:44:16,987 a lot of phenomena are natural and explicable. 972 00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:22,451 Now, it's also possible that some of these phenomena 973 00:44:23,117 --> 00:44:24,452 aren't explained, 974 00:44:24,452 --> 00:44:26,246 and that's what you're applying yourself to. 975 00:44:26,288 --> 00:44:28,916 - That's the idea of this research. 976 00:44:28,956 --> 00:44:30,416 - Right. 977 00:44:30,458 --> 00:44:32,919 - Is to explain the explainable that the average person 978 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,713 would think is an anomaly, but in fact it's not. 979 00:44:35,755 --> 00:44:37,590 - Right. - Yeah, exactly. 980 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,637 - When the normal average person looks up at the night sky, 981 00:44:42,637 --> 00:44:45,807 or even the daytime sky, and they see something 982 00:44:45,849 --> 00:44:49,228 that confuses them, typically they're making 983 00:44:49,268 --> 00:44:51,979 the cognitive jump right to a UAP. 984 00:44:52,021 --> 00:44:56,652 I can tell you for a 100% fact that we have technology 985 00:44:56,652 --> 00:45:01,490 that does some crazy things, that looks so unconventional, 986 00:45:01,489 --> 00:45:04,701 that the vast majority of the citizenry in this country 987 00:45:04,742 --> 00:45:07,663 have no idea what's actually flying in our skies. 988 00:45:07,704 --> 00:45:10,790 For example, Northrop Grumman's X47B, 989 00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:15,295 this is a mock 9-plus capable aircraft, 990 00:45:15,336 --> 00:45:18,673 it is shaped almost in an equilateral triangle, 991 00:45:18,673 --> 00:45:20,134 this thing has a service ceiling 992 00:45:20,175 --> 00:45:22,928 of roughly 40 to 50,000 feet. 993 00:45:22,969 --> 00:45:25,722 So at that altitude, you're not gonna hear sound. 994 00:45:25,764 --> 00:45:28,684 So the only thing that a person may be seeing 995 00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:31,269 is just the reflection of ambient light 996 00:45:31,311 --> 00:45:34,690 from the surface of the aircraft, which makes it look as if 997 00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:38,360 there is an illuminated triangle flying across the sky. 998 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,697 One of the other examples of a drone 999 00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:43,657 that most people don't know about 1000 00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:45,242 is Northrop Grumman's Bat. 1001 00:45:45,284 --> 00:45:49,246 They're much, much smaller, the Bat could probably fit 1002 00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:51,498 in the trunk of my vehicle. 1003 00:45:51,539 --> 00:45:56,503 So these things can be launched from a catapult on a ship 1004 00:45:57,795 --> 00:45:59,756 with without having to have a runway or a flight deck. 1005 00:45:59,797 --> 00:46:01,883 They are propeller-powered, electrically-driven, 1006 00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:05,554 and they have an endurance of up to 18 hours. 1007 00:46:05,554 --> 00:46:09,724 So this is a drone that has a small battery pack, 1008 00:46:09,766 --> 00:46:14,061 but it still maintains very robust sensor capability, 1009 00:46:14,061 --> 00:46:17,900 and an extended duration of almost 20 hours 1010 00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:20,067 of flight time, giving it the capability 1011 00:46:20,068 --> 00:46:22,696 of getting out to sea, potentially swarming 1012 00:46:22,737 --> 00:46:25,406 around a vessel, and returning. 1013 00:46:25,449 --> 00:46:28,076 The things that the Tic Tac was doing, 1014 00:46:28,117 --> 00:46:32,748 in my understanding of aircraft and flight dynamics, 1015 00:46:32,789 --> 00:46:34,708 we still are not at that level. 1016 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:37,585 (air whooshing) 1017 00:46:44,592 --> 00:46:45,344 - Thanks for coming out, Ryan. 1018 00:46:45,385 --> 00:46:46,804 - No, no problem. 1019 00:46:46,844 --> 00:46:49,722 - I'll sit down and pick your brain for little while. 1020 00:46:49,764 --> 00:46:50,598 - Sounds good. 1021 00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:51,767 - Right, so it's been a while. 1022 00:46:51,766 --> 00:46:53,100 - It has been. 1023 00:46:53,101 --> 00:46:55,771 - Thanks for coming by, ship mate, I appreciate 1024 00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:59,106 you visiting us here while we're doing our research. 1025 00:46:59,148 --> 00:47:01,902 You were on board when commander Fravor did 1026 00:47:01,943 --> 00:47:05,279 his famous intercept and the Tic Tac video was created. 1027 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,615 - Yes. 1028 00:47:06,657 --> 00:47:09,660 - Could you walk me through exactly how you found out, 1029 00:47:09,701 --> 00:47:11,619 like what you were doing on board? 1030 00:47:11,661 --> 00:47:13,120 I honestly never had met you 1031 00:47:13,163 --> 00:47:14,831 and it's a pretty small ship, so. 1032 00:47:14,873 --> 00:47:15,916 - Right. 1033 00:47:15,958 --> 00:47:17,459 I was part of the air detachment, 1034 00:47:17,458 --> 00:47:20,169 I was leading petty officer of HSL 43S detachment 1035 00:47:20,211 --> 00:47:21,922 on board with you guys on the Princeton. 1036 00:47:21,963 --> 00:47:24,715 I had actually been in combat at the time on the phone 1037 00:47:24,757 --> 00:47:26,968 with the command back home because we needed 1038 00:47:27,010 --> 00:47:28,512 something for our aircraft. 1039 00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:30,639 So we were working out the logistics of that. 1040 00:47:30,681 --> 00:47:33,599 During that timeframe, the intercept was going on, 1041 00:47:33,641 --> 00:47:35,309 there was radar screens, so I was able to see that. 1042 00:47:35,309 --> 00:47:37,353 And then of course, all of the commotion, 1043 00:47:38,563 --> 00:47:40,356 and what was going on around me during 1044 00:47:40,398 --> 00:47:43,317 that timeframe was definitely heightened. 1045 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,198 - Were you there when the civilians had come on board? 1046 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,159 I refer to 'em now as the men in khaki because, (laughing) 1047 00:47:52,202 --> 00:47:55,205 - Right, so yeah, I was there when they showed up. 1048 00:47:55,246 --> 00:47:58,332 I was in the hangar during flight ops, they came in, 1049 00:47:58,333 --> 00:48:00,836 walked pretty much straight out of the hangar and left, 1050 00:48:00,835 --> 00:48:04,755 came back short time later with some bags and took off. 1051 00:48:04,797 --> 00:48:07,008 - [Gary] (laughs) Well, I can fill you in on what they took. 1052 00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:08,343 - Yeah, I know you can do that. 1053 00:48:08,342 --> 00:48:10,803 - Yeah, all of our data are recording. 1054 00:48:10,846 --> 00:48:15,809 So now that you saw the Tic Tac video and the GIMBAL videos 1055 00:48:17,393 --> 00:48:20,021 and all the stuff that we know about what actually happened, 1056 00:48:20,021 --> 00:48:23,357 and the flight characteristics of what it could actually do, 1057 00:48:23,358 --> 00:48:25,736 you being really familiar with aircraft being 1058 00:48:25,777 --> 00:48:29,697 in the air deck, what did you think about it? 1059 00:48:29,739 --> 00:48:33,659 - What I thought about it is there's absolutely no aircraft 1060 00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:36,246 that can do what those things were doing 1061 00:48:36,288 --> 00:48:38,748 that I know of or have seen. 1062 00:48:38,789 --> 00:48:41,460 - So no nobody wants to be the UFO guy, 1063 00:48:41,501 --> 00:48:45,255 and it's usually hard to talk about anyways. 1064 00:48:46,547 --> 00:48:48,925 What made you be able to get over all that, 1065 00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:50,052 to talk about it? 1066 00:48:50,052 --> 00:48:51,385 Was there a real big stigma in the air deck 1067 00:48:51,385 --> 00:48:52,887 about stuff like that? 1068 00:48:52,929 --> 00:48:54,889 - Well, there's always a stigma when you talk about UFOs, 1069 00:48:54,889 --> 00:48:57,516 it doesn't matter if people believe you or not, 1070 00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,894 you're gonna get something for it. 1071 00:48:59,936 --> 00:49:02,897 - I always planning on making a full second career 1072 00:49:02,898 --> 00:49:05,608 in the department of defense as a contractor, 1073 00:49:05,650 --> 00:49:07,693 but because I was clowned and ridiculed 1074 00:49:07,735 --> 00:49:09,904 and kinda lost my reputation a little bit, 1075 00:49:09,947 --> 00:49:13,407 it destroyed me almost. 1076 00:49:13,407 --> 00:49:14,742 I saw this video on the TV guys like, 1077 00:49:14,784 --> 00:49:18,996 "Oh my freakin' God, it's happening?" 1078 00:49:19,039 --> 00:49:21,917 And I dropped the plate of food and I jumped on the internet 1079 00:49:21,916 --> 00:49:24,670 and found out what had just happened. 1080 00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:26,003 That moment shook me to the core 1081 00:49:26,045 --> 00:49:28,381 'cause I knew my life was about to change again. 1082 00:49:28,422 --> 00:49:31,175 I had gone through all this pain and suffering if you will, 1083 00:49:31,217 --> 00:49:33,971 so I feel validated right now. 1084 00:49:36,931 --> 00:49:39,684 - My thing is is, I saw what I saw, 1085 00:49:39,726 --> 00:49:41,478 and I can't unsee what I saw. 1086 00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:45,898 And if I saw it, then it happened, and I wanna back that up. 1087 00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:49,443 - For me, I was lucky that I didn't have the level 1088 00:49:49,443 --> 00:49:51,654 of PTSD that some of the other guys did, 1089 00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:56,702 but instead of trying to make this public, I internalized. 1090 00:49:57,536 --> 00:49:59,454 For a long time after the event, 1091 00:49:59,496 --> 00:50:03,000 I was emotionally completely voided. 1092 00:50:03,041 --> 00:50:08,046 I didn't really care, honestly, whether I lived or died, 1093 00:50:09,547 --> 00:50:13,134 or whether or not anybody wanted to have a relationship 1094 00:50:13,175 --> 00:50:15,177 with me, nor was I capable of having 1095 00:50:15,219 --> 00:50:17,638 any type of interpersonal relationship. 1096 00:50:17,681 --> 00:50:20,182 - We need to tell the truth about the things that we see. 1097 00:50:20,224 --> 00:50:22,435 - Yeah, and that's the one thing that really bugs 1098 00:50:22,476 --> 00:50:26,440 a lot of us about that too, is that we couldn't tell 1099 00:50:26,481 --> 00:50:28,859 the ops whole truth about things. 1100 00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:30,485 And if you did, nobody would believe you 'cause 1101 00:50:30,527 --> 00:50:31,903 the government didn't tell the truth either. 1102 00:50:31,945 --> 00:50:33,113 - Of course. 1103 00:50:33,155 --> 00:50:34,823 - Well, so do you wanna see what we gotta go going upstairs? 1104 00:50:34,864 --> 00:50:35,990 - All right, I'd love to see it. 1105 00:50:36,032 --> 00:50:37,324 - All right, let's go do it. 1106 00:50:37,324 --> 00:50:39,869 (intense music) 1107 00:50:43,206 --> 00:50:46,168 - Every step we make towards finding out 1108 00:50:46,168 --> 00:50:49,211 what these Navy Tic Tac objects are about 1109 00:50:49,253 --> 00:50:53,759 is a step towards these guys' recovery in a way. 1110 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,847 In coming to terms with the event that changed their lives, 1111 00:51:00,014 --> 00:51:03,225 I feel, with this mission, we are uncovering 1112 00:51:03,268 --> 00:51:06,103 more and more pieces of the puzzle 1113 00:51:06,146 --> 00:51:09,858 that will hopefully someday bring some answers 1114 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,693 to these very strange events. 1115 00:51:14,862 --> 00:51:18,783 We are four days in the expedition, I am getting 1116 00:51:18,824 --> 00:51:22,036 really excited about the results we have so far. 1117 00:51:22,036 --> 00:51:24,038 Hopefully we'll have more tomorrow. 1118 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:26,625 Meanwhile, David Mason's inventions 1119 00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:29,669 that convert light to sound and sound to light 1120 00:51:29,710 --> 00:51:32,588 have been operational 24/7. 1121 00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:35,925 They've been capturing the light that comes from objects 1122 00:51:35,967 --> 00:51:38,220 in the sky, and retransmitting 1123 00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:42,099 the same pattern back to space nonstop. 1124 00:51:42,139 --> 00:51:45,309 I decided to give it a try, and see if we could capture 1125 00:51:45,351 --> 00:51:47,728 the sound of an anomalous object, 1126 00:51:47,771 --> 00:51:52,526 and broadcast our own music and sound back to them in space. 1127 00:51:55,778 --> 00:51:57,114 - So that's the object. - So which star is that? 1128 00:51:57,155 --> 00:52:00,117 - You're looking at Altair, so if you aim the goggles 1129 00:52:00,157 --> 00:52:01,951 and keep it in the center field of view, 1130 00:52:01,992 --> 00:52:02,744 - Right, right. 1131 00:52:02,786 --> 00:52:03,994 - Now you can hear it. 1132 00:52:04,036 --> 00:52:05,329 - Oh, yeah. 1133 00:52:05,371 --> 00:52:07,081 - [David] You can hear the rumble from it. 1134 00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:09,751 - Oh, there's an airplane. 1135 00:52:09,751 --> 00:52:12,420 Oh, I can hear the airplane, it's different. 1136 00:52:12,461 --> 00:52:13,755 (airplane zooming) 1137 00:52:13,797 --> 00:52:15,257 Can you see over there, over there, can you see? 1138 00:52:15,297 --> 00:52:16,590 It's getting a different sound. 1139 00:52:16,632 --> 00:52:19,135 - It looks like it could be a satellite. 1140 00:52:19,177 --> 00:52:22,764 - Oh wow, how cool. (laughs) 1141 00:52:22,806 --> 00:52:25,099 So is this the middle one, is that the visible light? 1142 00:52:25,141 --> 00:52:26,183 - Yes. 1143 00:52:26,976 --> 00:52:29,980 So we have two different types of music 1144 00:52:30,021 --> 00:52:32,315 being transmitted on two different spectrums. 1145 00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,986 So it's kinda like radio stations 1146 00:52:36,027 --> 00:52:37,278 that have different frequencies. 1147 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,780 So that way we can separate 'em out 1148 00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:40,282 and just put out different data. 1149 00:52:41,782 --> 00:52:45,286 - I am blown away by David Mason's inventions. 1150 00:52:45,286 --> 00:52:49,165 If we are able to capture the sound of objects in the sky, 1151 00:52:49,206 --> 00:52:53,002 then we can potentially identify the acoustic pattern 1152 00:52:53,043 --> 00:52:56,297 of a UFO, which can give us more information 1153 00:52:56,338 --> 00:52:58,674 about the properties of these objects. 1154 00:52:58,717 --> 00:53:01,802 And the music that we broadcast can reach 1155 00:53:01,802 --> 00:53:05,139 all points in space, and potentially a UFO 1156 00:53:05,139 --> 00:53:08,976 would receive our music as a mode of communication, 1157 00:53:08,976 --> 00:53:11,312 and hopefully will attempt to communicate back 1158 00:53:11,353 --> 00:53:13,063 with us here on earth. 1159 00:53:13,106 --> 00:53:16,985 The only way to find out if this mode of communication works 1160 00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:20,030 is to keep the devices running continuously, 1161 00:53:20,070 --> 00:53:22,656 and see if we can then correlate them 1162 00:53:22,657 --> 00:53:27,204 with an actual UFO siding in a measurable way. 1163 00:53:27,244 --> 00:53:29,038 That would be phenomenal. 1164 00:53:30,373 --> 00:53:34,043 - Day four, really tired, I hadn't been sleeping at all. 1165 00:53:34,085 --> 00:53:36,795 Other than that, we still got some more anomalous data 1166 00:53:36,838 --> 00:53:38,381 with the radiation detectors, 1167 00:53:38,422 --> 00:53:41,675 and we got the FLIRs going continuous still, 1168 00:53:41,717 --> 00:53:43,010 looking forward to tomorrow, 1169 00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:45,179 I'm gonna go catch a couple hours of sleep. 1170 00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:47,932 (upbeat music) 1171 00:54:04,114 --> 00:54:06,033 - Tell me when Gary gets here, so lemme catch some sleep. 1172 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:08,536 - Already here. - You're too late. 1173 00:54:08,577 --> 00:54:10,538 (laughing) Good morning. 1174 00:54:10,579 --> 00:54:11,789 - Morning. 1175 00:54:11,831 --> 00:54:13,124 That was all right. 1176 00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:14,751 Oh well, you still have to work. 1177 00:54:14,793 --> 00:54:16,878 Everything's starting to look up finally. 1178 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,128 - Yeah, that's good, bro. 1179 00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:19,630 That's really good. 1180 00:54:19,672 --> 00:54:21,215 - It's good for everybody except the neighbors. 1181 00:54:21,257 --> 00:54:23,009 They think our equipment can see through their walls. 1182 00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:24,219 (Gary & Dave laughing) 1183 00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:25,552 - Yeah, when the police come in last night, 1184 00:54:25,594 --> 00:54:27,221 they were a little concerned at first, 1185 00:54:27,222 --> 00:54:29,224 but then once we showed 'em what we had going on, 1186 00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:32,686 it was like, man, he was intrigued. 1187 00:54:32,726 --> 00:54:34,270 - Yeah, it must have been interesting since they sent 1188 00:54:34,311 --> 00:54:36,897 the other two up here too. (laughing) 1189 00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:38,233 At least they all had a good time. 1190 00:54:38,233 --> 00:54:39,567 - [Dave] That's true, that's true. 1191 00:54:39,608 --> 00:54:41,068 All right, man, let's get to work. 1192 00:54:41,110 --> 00:54:41,987 - Let's get to work. 1193 00:54:42,027 --> 00:54:43,279 - How come it's always radiation 1194 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,154 and they're never bringing coffee? 1195 00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:45,490 - Well. - Well, you know. 1196 00:54:48,284 --> 00:54:51,245 - Hey, we got an anomalous event for you to check out. 1197 00:54:51,288 --> 00:54:52,204 - Did it show up on FLIR? 1198 00:54:52,246 --> 00:54:53,289 - No, but you know what? 1199 00:54:53,331 --> 00:54:54,624 I think you can help us with it. 1200 00:54:54,666 --> 00:54:57,294 - Check it out, goes all the way down the coast, 1201 00:54:57,335 --> 00:55:00,213 turns around, tracks back up, that little black dot is us. 1202 00:55:01,463 --> 00:55:02,840 - Wait, what's on that orange path? 1203 00:55:02,882 --> 00:55:03,758 Is that- 1204 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,135 - That's the flight path. 1205 00:55:05,175 --> 00:55:06,427 The historical flight path going down, coming back out, 1206 00:55:06,427 --> 00:55:08,304 veering out right over our roof. 1207 00:55:08,346 --> 00:55:10,431 - Oh, is that a helicopter? 1208 00:55:10,472 --> 00:55:12,976 - (laughing) Yeah it's not a- - Helicopter 1209 00:55:13,018 --> 00:55:14,101 - It's a helicopter. - Yeah. 1210 00:55:14,101 --> 00:55:14,978 - But wait is- 1211 00:55:15,019 --> 00:55:16,646 - Just messing with you man. 1212 00:55:16,688 --> 00:55:18,273 - Couldn't this be copy as espionage? 1213 00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:19,983 - I called the company- 1214 00:55:20,025 --> 00:55:21,776 - (crosstalk) much of a corporation yet. 1215 00:55:21,775 --> 00:55:24,153 That's a video of it going over the top of us. 1216 00:55:24,195 --> 00:55:25,113 - That's crazy. 1217 00:55:25,155 --> 00:55:26,156 - Yeah. 1218 00:55:26,197 --> 00:55:26,990 Get back to work, man. 1219 00:55:28,032 --> 00:55:28,782 - All right. 1220 00:55:28,824 --> 00:55:29,616 - So Gary? 1221 00:55:29,617 --> 00:55:30,285 - Yeah. 1222 00:55:30,284 --> 00:55:31,201 - Navy guy walks into a bar. 1223 00:55:31,244 --> 00:55:32,746 He's got a three-foot salami under one arm 1224 00:55:32,786 --> 00:55:33,788 and a poodle under the other. 1225 00:55:33,788 --> 00:55:35,289 - Yep, sounds like a good time. 1226 00:55:35,289 --> 00:55:38,208 (cheerful music) 1227 00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:46,843 - This has been hard, because it's a huge amount of work, 1228 00:55:46,885 --> 00:55:49,888 a huge amount of data and equipment, 1229 00:55:49,929 --> 00:55:54,017 but I'm getting really excited because David Mason tells me, 1230 00:55:54,059 --> 00:55:56,311 he recorded a flurry 1231 00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:59,146 of raining objects falling down from the sky. 1232 00:55:59,188 --> 00:56:01,482 (air whooshing) 1233 00:56:01,523 --> 00:56:05,694 Kevin Day said at one point it was raining Tic Tacs. 1234 00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:08,280 I don't know if these are the same raining Tic Tacs 1235 00:56:08,322 --> 00:56:10,824 that Kevin Day was talking about, 1236 00:56:10,824 --> 00:56:13,160 but it sure sounds very intriguing, 1237 00:56:13,202 --> 00:56:15,204 and I can't wait to find out. 1238 00:56:16,581 --> 00:56:18,166 - What do you guys got? 1239 00:56:18,166 --> 00:56:19,793 - We've got something really interesting here, Gary. 1240 00:56:19,833 --> 00:56:20,918 Now watch the screen. 1241 00:56:22,211 --> 00:56:24,338 What we have is objects that appear to be dropping 1242 00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:26,173 from the sky and, you see that? 1243 00:56:26,215 --> 00:56:28,384 It's just there momentarily and looks like 1244 00:56:28,425 --> 00:56:31,261 they're actually dropping into the ocean. 1245 00:56:31,304 --> 00:56:32,555 - That's crazy. 1246 00:56:32,597 --> 00:56:33,681 - And I've looked at this and I'm think 1247 00:56:33,681 --> 00:56:36,184 could this be a camera artifact? 1248 00:56:36,184 --> 00:56:39,019 However, there's a transition of decay time. 1249 00:56:39,061 --> 00:56:40,355 So this is very strange. 1250 00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:43,650 - So could these be like ice forming and dropping 1251 00:56:43,690 --> 00:56:45,359 into the water or, I mean. 1252 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,320 - No, because what we're also seeing is it's transitioning 1253 00:56:48,362 --> 00:56:51,490 where it's appearing in the field of view momentarily, 1254 00:56:51,532 --> 00:56:53,076 and then disappearing, 1255 00:56:53,117 --> 00:56:55,619 but it's clearly having a trajectory that's downward. 1256 00:56:55,661 --> 00:56:57,371 - I'm seeing 'em come in and then out, 1257 00:56:57,414 --> 00:56:59,332 and then in again when they hit the water. 1258 00:56:59,373 --> 00:57:00,500 - It looks like they hit the water. 1259 00:57:00,541 --> 00:57:02,626 Looks like they illuminate in the water. 1260 00:57:02,668 --> 00:57:03,877 - [Gary] That's amazing. 1261 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,088 - [Mathew] Does this remind you of anything? 1262 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:06,381 - Sure does. 1263 00:57:06,422 --> 00:57:08,090 It reminds me of the Tic Tacs from '04. 1264 00:57:08,132 --> 00:57:12,010 They would go from 28,000 feet down the sea level like that, 1265 00:57:12,052 --> 00:57:14,263 I mean just straight down, just like that. 1266 00:57:14,304 --> 00:57:18,225 - I first saw the first group of those, whatever they were 1267 00:57:18,268 --> 00:57:22,271 on the 10th of November and the intercept 1268 00:57:22,313 --> 00:57:25,066 with FASTGO flight happened on the 14th. 1269 00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:26,901 And I continued to see these things up until 1270 00:57:26,943 --> 00:57:29,571 about the 19th of November. 1271 00:57:29,612 --> 00:57:32,115 And they were always in groups of five to 10. 1272 00:57:32,157 --> 00:57:34,242 But if you were to add up all the groups, 1273 00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:36,411 there was about 100 of these objects. 1274 00:57:36,411 --> 00:57:38,413 - There were dozens of such tracks like this, 1275 00:57:38,413 --> 00:57:41,123 which correlate not only with high energies, 1276 00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:43,876 but also high rates in the cosmic watch. 1277 00:57:43,918 --> 00:57:47,130 - After we examined the videos that we recorded, 1278 00:57:47,172 --> 00:57:49,798 we were able to calculate the size of the objects based 1279 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:54,554 on the camera field of view and the distance of the horizon. 1280 00:57:54,596 --> 00:57:59,224 We found that the objects were at least four feet across, 1281 00:57:59,266 --> 00:58:02,102 and falling at least at 5,000 miles an hour, 1282 00:58:02,144 --> 00:58:05,773 and the objects that were distant were measured out 1283 00:58:05,815 --> 00:58:09,652 at 69 feet across, and falling at a speed 1284 00:58:09,693 --> 00:58:12,322 of at least 84,000 miles per hour. 1285 00:58:12,362 --> 00:58:16,451 So even if we were off in calculations by 50%, 1286 00:58:16,492 --> 00:58:19,536 we have some extraordinary numbers that can't explain 1287 00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:22,874 this phenomenon as being something natural or known. 1288 00:58:24,041 --> 00:58:25,585 - Hey, you guys, what are you up to? 1289 00:58:25,626 --> 00:58:28,505 - They're showing me some basically objects falling 1290 00:58:28,545 --> 00:58:30,172 from the sky to the ocean. 1291 00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,509 They found some correlating data 1292 00:58:32,550 --> 00:58:36,846 with the radiation detection, and I mean, honestly, 1293 00:58:36,887 --> 00:58:39,973 it reminds me of the stuff we were seeing in '04. 1294 00:58:40,016 --> 00:58:41,809 - Wow! Tic Tacs? 1295 00:58:41,851 --> 00:58:42,977 It maybe Tic Tacs? 1296 00:58:43,018 --> 00:58:44,311 - [Gary] Maybe. 1297 00:58:44,311 --> 00:58:45,103 - [Caroline] Caught on our cameras? 1298 00:58:45,146 --> 00:58:46,356 That's incredible. 1299 00:58:46,396 --> 00:58:47,773 - I mean, the fade out makes it look like 1300 00:58:47,815 --> 00:58:50,818 it is really something dropping from the sky, 1301 00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:53,363 based on the way it fades out. 1302 00:58:53,403 --> 00:58:54,697 - That's great. 1303 00:58:54,739 --> 00:58:56,865 Wow, we got a lot of stuff actually. 1304 00:58:56,907 --> 00:58:58,492 - [Gary] Honestly, I'm very surprised 1305 00:58:58,534 --> 00:58:59,409 about everything that we've got. 1306 00:58:59,452 --> 00:59:01,287 - You know, David yesterday, 1307 00:59:01,329 --> 00:59:03,831 we were doing all the night vision stuff. 1308 00:59:03,873 --> 00:59:06,041 - We just continuously broadcast 1309 00:59:06,083 --> 00:59:09,044 this over ultraviolet spectrum and white spectrum 1310 00:59:09,086 --> 00:59:10,338 and infrared spectrum. 1311 00:59:10,338 --> 00:59:11,839 - So let's say we've provoked it. 1312 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,673 - We provoked it. 1313 00:59:12,673 --> 00:59:15,009 (Caroline laughing) 1314 00:59:15,009 --> 00:59:18,346 We have recorded objects falling down from the sky 1315 00:59:18,387 --> 00:59:21,014 at extraordinary speed that seem 1316 00:59:21,056 --> 00:59:24,768 to have similar characteristics as the raining Tic Tacs 1317 00:59:24,811 --> 00:59:27,771 that Kevin Day witnessed in 2004. 1318 00:59:27,813 --> 00:59:31,525 Our measurements of their size and speed also fall 1319 00:59:31,568 --> 00:59:34,528 within the same range as the findings made 1320 00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:37,864 by the scientific coalition of UAP studies, 1321 00:59:37,907 --> 00:59:42,327 as well as Dr. Knuth's scientific paper, "Entropy." 1322 00:59:42,369 --> 00:59:46,540 These in depth scientific analysis of the Navy Tic Tacs, 1323 00:59:46,583 --> 00:59:50,420 details similar estimated size and velocities 1324 00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:53,880 in the tens of thousands of miles per hour, 1325 00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:58,552 just like the objects we have captured on our FLIR cameras. 1326 00:59:58,552 --> 01:00:00,721 We are getting more validation 1327 01:00:00,722 --> 01:00:03,432 from other legitimate organizations 1328 01:00:03,474 --> 01:00:07,562 about potential UAP properties, which is exactly 1329 01:00:07,561 --> 01:00:12,232 what is needed for this level of rigorous research. 1330 01:00:14,527 --> 01:00:17,447 - So what kind of category do we think these things are? 1331 01:00:17,487 --> 01:00:20,115 Are they physical objects, a natural phenomena, 1332 01:00:20,157 --> 01:00:22,534 or are they mental manifestations? 1333 01:00:22,577 --> 01:00:24,621 Are we all imagining seeing these things? 1334 01:00:24,661 --> 01:00:25,621 I doubt that because we measure 1335 01:00:25,663 --> 01:00:27,081 with scientific instruments, right? 1336 01:00:27,123 --> 01:00:28,583 - Right. 1337 01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:30,335 We're not all being hacked, and spoofed on this. 1338 01:00:30,376 --> 01:00:31,586 - Yeah. 1339 01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:33,630 - So my thoughts are, it is from some 1340 01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:37,759 sort of intelligent creation and intelligent construction, 1341 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,094 meaning it's a technological device. 1342 01:00:40,135 --> 01:00:42,429 It could be organic, it could be electromagnetic, 1343 01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:44,098 could be who knows what? 1344 01:00:44,139 --> 01:00:48,393 - On this hand it's ours, and on this hand, it's not ours. 1345 01:00:48,436 --> 01:00:50,605 And the answer lies somewhere in between. 1346 01:00:50,646 --> 01:00:52,731 So my mind right now is open. 1347 01:00:52,773 --> 01:00:54,650 If it turns out to be our stuff 1348 01:00:54,692 --> 01:00:56,818 or some other country's stuff, I'm good with that. 1349 01:00:56,860 --> 01:00:58,695 Okay, I have my answer. 1350 01:00:58,737 --> 01:01:01,657 If it turns out to be something not from this planet, 1351 01:01:01,699 --> 01:01:02,617 I'm good with that too. 1352 01:01:02,617 --> 01:01:03,993 Okay, I have my answer now. 1353 01:01:04,034 --> 01:01:08,498 - That stuff, knowledge, information, engineering, 1354 01:01:08,539 --> 01:01:10,917 that right now, to my knowledge, 1355 01:01:10,958 --> 01:01:13,001 nobody on this planet knows how to do it. 1356 01:01:13,835 --> 01:01:15,045 - Right. - Right? 1357 01:01:15,088 --> 01:01:17,548 So that suggests that it's somebody from 1358 01:01:17,590 --> 01:01:21,260 some other place has done this, or maybe other time. 1359 01:01:21,302 --> 01:01:23,387 - And I think that's an important point. 1360 01:01:23,429 --> 01:01:26,139 You mentioned earlier, the multiple cases, 1361 01:01:26,139 --> 01:01:27,683 you mentioned the Bassoon case. 1362 01:01:27,724 --> 01:01:31,061 That's from 1951, and you've got these objects moving 1363 01:01:31,103 --> 01:01:34,231 at very high accelerations and taking off at high speeds. 1364 01:01:34,273 --> 01:01:36,150 The pilot estimated it is leaving 1365 01:01:36,192 --> 01:01:40,028 at about 1500 miles an hour, and it was tracked on radar 1366 01:01:40,070 --> 01:01:42,949 from Newfoundland at 1800 miles an hour. 1367 01:01:42,989 --> 01:01:46,743 This is two years before the air speed record 1368 01:01:46,786 --> 01:01:50,039 of 695 miles an hour was broken. 1369 01:01:50,081 --> 01:01:52,541 So this thing was moving three or four times faster 1370 01:01:52,583 --> 01:01:54,168 than the air speed record. 1371 01:01:54,168 --> 01:01:56,671 - They're also now declassified reports thanks to FOIA, 1372 01:01:56,670 --> 01:01:59,339 mentioning flying white butane tanks. 1373 01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:01,425 That sounds like a lot like a Tic Tac to me. 1374 01:02:01,467 --> 01:02:03,010 And that was the late '40s early '50s. 1375 01:02:03,052 --> 01:02:04,679 Well, let me put this in perspective, 1376 01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:09,726 Einstein, Rosen and Polski came up with these concepts 1377 01:02:10,726 --> 01:02:14,688 in the 1905 timeframe, into later about 1913. 1378 01:02:14,688 --> 01:02:18,400 So in about 100 years, is all that humanity 1379 01:02:18,443 --> 01:02:22,530 has had a basic construct to say, 1380 01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:26,033 faster than like travel, worm holes, warp drives, 1381 01:02:26,032 --> 01:02:27,576 are even possible. 1382 01:02:27,617 --> 01:02:32,331 And it wasn't until 1994 that someone was clever enough, 1383 01:02:33,583 --> 01:02:37,043 Alcubierre came up with the warp physics that says, 1384 01:02:37,043 --> 01:02:40,505 "Okay, well the physics we've learned since 1905 tells us," 1385 01:02:40,547 --> 01:02:42,132 okay, maybe it is possible to do what they do 1386 01:02:42,175 --> 01:02:44,594 in Star Trek and other science fiction, movies and books, 1387 01:02:44,635 --> 01:02:47,430 but that's only 100 to 120 years. 1388 01:02:47,472 --> 01:02:48,556 - Yeah. 1389 01:02:48,597 --> 01:02:49,724 - Not thousands not millions. - The universe 1390 01:02:49,724 --> 01:02:51,726 is 13.7 billion years old. 1391 01:02:51,726 --> 01:02:54,019 There's a civilization somewhere near us 1392 01:02:54,061 --> 01:02:55,855 that's thousands of years old. 1393 01:02:55,896 --> 01:02:59,232 Their Einstein was 10,000 years ago, for example. 1394 01:02:59,233 --> 01:03:01,318 So where does that put them now? 1395 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,403 - What if you have multiple civilizations 1396 01:03:03,445 --> 01:03:04,739 and they have different technologies? 1397 01:03:04,739 --> 01:03:05,740 'Cause they use different things. 1398 01:03:05,739 --> 01:03:07,324 - Of course they do. 1399 01:03:07,365 --> 01:03:09,117 The other thing that happens is, space gets compressed, 1400 01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:10,452 makes the distances shorter. 1401 01:03:10,494 --> 01:03:11,746 Space isn't empty. 1402 01:03:11,746 --> 01:03:14,749 You've got about one hydrogen atom per cubic meter. 1403 01:03:14,748 --> 01:03:16,625 So as you compress space at very high speeds, 1404 01:03:16,666 --> 01:03:18,543 you're no longer flying through a vacuum, 1405 01:03:18,585 --> 01:03:19,753 you're flying through a cloud. 1406 01:03:19,753 --> 01:03:21,255 At close to the speed of light, 1407 01:03:21,255 --> 01:03:23,758 it's gonna rip your ship apart in no time, 1408 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,553 unless you have a technology that allows you 1409 01:03:27,594 --> 01:03:29,805 to travel through matter without affecting it, 1410 01:03:29,847 --> 01:03:31,766 like we actually see here with- 1411 01:03:31,766 --> 01:03:33,643 - That is an excellent point. - With crafts moving 1412 01:03:33,684 --> 01:03:35,269 through the air without sonic booms 1413 01:03:35,311 --> 01:03:36,938 or moving through water without splashes. 1414 01:03:36,978 --> 01:03:38,605 We observed that. - That's the other counter 1415 01:03:38,606 --> 01:03:39,607 that's always given. - That's always data. 1416 01:03:39,648 --> 01:03:41,817 (air whooshing) 1417 01:03:41,858 --> 01:03:44,778 - We made it guys, we got a lot of great data, 1418 01:03:44,778 --> 01:03:46,697 and I just wanted to let you guys know, 1419 01:03:47,989 --> 01:03:50,450 I'm very proud of the way that you guys have performed 1420 01:03:50,451 --> 01:03:53,663 above and beyond any expectations I could have ever had. 1421 01:03:54,914 --> 01:03:58,167 We got some great results, and let's start getting ready 1422 01:03:58,208 --> 01:03:59,793 for the next one. 1423 01:03:59,793 --> 01:04:02,295 (bouncy music) 1424 01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:09,804 - The past days have been very hard and very exciting. 1425 01:04:09,804 --> 01:04:13,307 We managed to capture multiple anomalies 1426 01:04:13,306 --> 01:04:18,311 in multiple locations, across multiple devices in real time. 1427 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,440 This is a first in the field of ufology. 1428 01:04:22,483 --> 01:04:24,360 What are the odds that we would capture 1429 01:04:24,402 --> 01:04:26,820 the exact Navy Tic Tacs 1430 01:04:26,820 --> 01:04:30,532 that these guys saw over their ship in 2004? 1431 01:04:30,574 --> 01:04:33,660 Now it's up to the scientists to continue analyzing 1432 01:04:33,702 --> 01:04:37,498 the data over the next few weeks, and tell us more 1433 01:04:37,539 --> 01:04:39,833 about the properties of these objects 1434 01:04:39,833 --> 01:04:43,336 and what this phenomenon is really about. 1435 01:04:43,378 --> 01:04:45,964 (intense music) 1436 01:05:01,021 --> 01:05:01,813 - That's right. 1437 01:05:01,856 --> 01:05:03,816 - Hey guys, we made it. 1438 01:05:03,858 --> 01:05:05,276 - Hey, glad You're here. 1439 01:05:05,318 --> 01:05:06,694 You're gonna need to sit down for this, 1440 01:05:06,735 --> 01:05:07,944 'cause it's pretty mind blowing. 1441 01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:09,363 - Wow. - So grab a seat. 1442 01:05:09,405 --> 01:05:11,324 - Okay, we want anomalies. 1443 01:05:11,364 --> 01:05:12,532 Is this very different? 1444 01:05:12,574 --> 01:05:14,910 - Yeah, and the story starts with a list 1445 01:05:14,952 --> 01:05:17,872 of anomalous events in the cosmic watch. 1446 01:05:17,871 --> 01:05:21,207 So I made a list of all events that were 1447 01:05:21,208 --> 01:05:24,878 either high in energy, high in rate or both. 1448 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,925 So the highest energy we recorded in the cosmic watch 1449 01:05:31,552 --> 01:05:36,557 was 43.37 mega electron volts, MeV. 1450 01:05:37,891 --> 01:05:39,434 So that's the highest we recorded the entire week. 1451 01:05:39,476 --> 01:05:42,270 It's sort of like the maximum for terrestrial radiation, 1452 01:05:42,313 --> 01:05:44,398 Two MeVs more, average. 1453 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,942 - Oh wow. 1454 01:05:45,983 --> 01:05:47,777 - That high energy event I just mentioned was at 4:01 A.M. 1455 01:05:47,818 --> 01:05:49,403 - Right. 1456 01:05:49,402 --> 01:05:52,864 - At 3:59 A.M, this is what the UFODAP recorded. 1457 01:05:52,907 --> 01:05:55,201 There's a hole in the clouds, which, 1458 01:05:55,242 --> 01:05:57,411 it's not abnormal to have a hole in the clouds 1459 01:05:57,452 --> 01:06:02,458 that closes, but notice those strange dots within it. 1460 01:06:03,668 --> 01:06:05,795 And also if you go frame by frame, 1461 01:06:05,835 --> 01:06:07,837 it closes in a fraction of a second. 1462 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,343 That seems to be too fast for natural cloud formations. 1463 01:06:12,385 --> 01:06:14,345 - For clouds to move in and close the hole, 1464 01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:15,763 they would've had to be going something 1465 01:06:15,762 --> 01:06:17,014 like 700 miles an hour. 1466 01:06:17,056 --> 01:06:18,264 - How far away was it? 1467 01:06:18,306 --> 01:06:19,474 - Yeah, I can show you a diagram, 1468 01:06:19,516 --> 01:06:21,476 I've made of the situation. 1469 01:06:21,518 --> 01:06:22,852 Yeah, so it's basic trigonometry, 1470 01:06:22,894 --> 01:06:25,940 we're using the known angles, so we know which direction 1471 01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:29,985 the camera's aiming, we know the field of view of the camera 1472 01:06:30,027 --> 01:06:34,949 and that hole was about 18 degrees above the horizon. 1473 01:06:34,990 --> 01:06:37,951 And so given a cloud ceiling of about 1700 feet, 1474 01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:39,662 you can say that that hole was 1475 01:06:39,704 --> 01:06:43,289 about 1.2 kilometers off the coast. 1476 01:06:43,289 --> 01:06:44,333 And so it's an elliptical hole. 1477 01:06:44,375 --> 01:06:45,291 - Okay. - It's 1478 01:06:45,291 --> 01:06:47,877 about 0.4 kilometers long, 1479 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,463 and then about 0.1 kilometers wide. 1480 01:06:50,463 --> 01:06:52,757 It looks like it's a hole in the clouds, 1481 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,885 or it could be a false streak cloud. 1482 01:06:54,927 --> 01:06:57,847 Those typically happen when you have 1483 01:06:57,887 --> 01:07:00,849 very high altitude clouds and a section 1484 01:07:00,891 --> 01:07:03,811 of the cloud that then spontaneously freezes 1485 01:07:03,853 --> 01:07:05,688 and then the crystals fall out 1486 01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:07,690 and leaves a hole in the cloud. 1487 01:07:07,731 --> 01:07:11,152 That isn't possible in this case because the cloud ceiling 1488 01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:13,653 was only 1700 feet and it wasn't cold enough 1489 01:07:13,653 --> 01:07:15,947 for it to be that kind of cloud. 1490 01:07:15,989 --> 01:07:18,533 A hole like that could also be explained from 1491 01:07:18,576 --> 01:07:22,371 an airplane or another aircraft flying through the clouds. 1492 01:07:22,413 --> 01:07:24,206 That can cause a hole as well. 1493 01:07:24,248 --> 01:07:26,708 We didn't have any aircraft going through at the time, 1494 01:07:26,751 --> 01:07:30,504 and the UFODAP cameras didn't pick up any craft. 1495 01:07:30,503 --> 01:07:33,007 Now the cameras did start recording because 1496 01:07:33,007 --> 01:07:34,675 they detected something. 1497 01:07:34,675 --> 01:07:39,013 - But when Jeremy slowed it down, there's also a new dot 1498 01:07:39,012 --> 01:07:40,889 that appears in the last couple frames. 1499 01:07:40,931 --> 01:07:43,684 - [Jeremy] Yeah, there are a few dots appearing, yeah. 1500 01:07:43,726 --> 01:07:44,894 - Yeah, there's one fresh, 1501 01:07:44,934 --> 01:07:47,855 there's one lonely fresh dot that appears. 1502 01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:50,523 - Did you check the radiation data 1503 01:07:50,523 --> 01:07:52,650 with any outside organizations? 1504 01:07:52,693 --> 01:07:55,028 - We did, we looked at the data from Fermi 1505 01:07:55,028 --> 01:07:59,365 the NASA spacecraft that looks at gamma-ray bursts 1506 01:07:59,365 --> 01:08:01,159 from distant astrophysical phenomenon, 1507 01:08:01,202 --> 01:08:02,995 there's no correlation there. 1508 01:08:03,036 --> 01:08:06,664 We did have to check also for solar activity. 1509 01:08:06,706 --> 01:08:10,710 This event is not correlated with the solar activity. 1510 01:08:10,753 --> 01:08:13,213 - So what about the FLIR? 1511 01:08:13,213 --> 01:08:14,882 Anything with the FLIR? 1512 01:08:14,882 --> 01:08:17,967 - Unfortunately, the FLIR about seven minutes before 1513 01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:22,556 this event took place, all eight FLIR cameras shut down. 1514 01:08:22,555 --> 01:08:23,890 We lost power. 1515 01:08:23,932 --> 01:08:26,560 And power was distributed from two different sources. 1516 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,895 - I don't think it's a coincidence though. 1517 01:08:27,936 --> 01:08:30,314 This really bothers me, 'cause it reminds me of 1518 01:08:30,355 --> 01:08:33,567 how the phenomenon is often associated 1519 01:08:33,609 --> 01:08:37,696 with electromagnetic anomalies that cause things 1520 01:08:37,738 --> 01:08:41,408 to break, cars to turn off, and things like that. 1521 01:08:41,408 --> 01:08:46,122 That I think it's really convenient that the FLIR went down. 1522 01:08:46,162 --> 01:08:49,750 - How about the people who would say, well, maybe there's 1523 01:08:49,750 --> 01:08:52,043 something malfunctioning with the camera? 1524 01:08:52,086 --> 01:08:53,587 What would you say to that? 1525 01:08:53,628 --> 01:08:56,923 - We actually have, several minutes before the video 1526 01:08:56,923 --> 01:08:59,926 we looked at, we have another video that doesn't have 1527 01:08:59,969 --> 01:09:03,139 the speckles, but has the hole, several minutes before, 1528 01:09:03,180 --> 01:09:06,809 but then even better, we have the entire week's worth 1529 01:09:06,850 --> 01:09:09,936 of UFODAP video and imagery, 1530 01:09:09,936 --> 01:09:12,105 where it's functioning perfectly. 1531 01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:14,984 It's triggering on birds, it's triggering on planes, 1532 01:09:15,024 --> 01:09:17,944 and it even has a built-in classification system 1533 01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:19,779 where it says percentage probability, 1534 01:09:19,822 --> 01:09:21,282 it's a plane or a bird. 1535 01:09:21,282 --> 01:09:25,119 Not only that, we also have direct controls 1536 01:09:25,161 --> 01:09:29,623 from a nearly identical part of the sky, day and time, 1537 01:09:29,622 --> 01:09:31,250 no hole, just clouds 1538 01:09:31,292 --> 01:09:33,794 and the cameras functioning perfectly normally. 1539 01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:37,631 So there's just too many strange coincidences here, 1540 01:09:37,631 --> 01:09:40,467 with all the different events that stack together. 1541 01:09:40,466 --> 01:09:43,136 I mean, it's really easy to take one video and say 1542 01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:45,806 it's this or that, or it's not really anomalous 'cause 1543 01:09:45,805 --> 01:09:48,308 it can be anything, but it can't be anything. 1544 01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:50,019 Because we've done these calculations, 1545 01:09:50,060 --> 01:09:51,937 and we have these correlations. 1546 01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:53,063 So it's extremely unlikely 1547 01:09:53,104 --> 01:09:55,315 that it was a malfunction in the camera. 1548 01:09:55,315 --> 01:09:57,193 - Was there any correlative data with 1549 01:09:57,234 --> 01:09:59,612 like weather radar or anything like that? 1550 01:09:59,653 --> 01:10:02,280 - Yeah, we were able to obtain weather radar 1551 01:10:02,323 --> 01:10:06,035 just before four o'clock, you see a large clump 1552 01:10:06,076 --> 01:10:09,496 of area where you have a lot of turbulence, 1553 01:10:09,537 --> 01:10:13,666 and so this is correlated with the presence of that hole. 1554 01:10:13,708 --> 01:10:15,043 The radar shows that there 1555 01:10:15,085 --> 01:10:18,338 was actually reflective objects in the area. 1556 01:10:18,338 --> 01:10:20,882 High energy particles in gamma-rays would've bombarded 1557 01:10:20,925 --> 01:10:24,011 the entire CCD chip on the camera, resulting in spots, 1558 01:10:24,052 --> 01:10:26,346 uniformly spread across the image. 1559 01:10:26,346 --> 01:10:28,681 As a result, these really appear to be physical objects 1560 01:10:28,724 --> 01:10:30,266 somehow appearing or materializing 1561 01:10:30,309 --> 01:10:32,228 in the hole in the clouds. 1562 01:10:32,269 --> 01:10:34,939 The radar returns suggests that we are seeing the objects 1563 01:10:34,979 --> 01:10:36,773 through the hole in the clouds at a distance 1564 01:10:36,814 --> 01:10:38,858 of about five kilometers away. 1565 01:10:38,859 --> 01:10:42,863 Thus, the objects are most likely about 35 to 50 defeat 1566 01:10:42,904 --> 01:10:47,201 in size, which is the estimated size of the Tic Tac objects 1567 01:10:47,201 --> 01:10:49,286 in the 2004 Nimitz encounter. 1568 01:10:49,328 --> 01:10:50,120 - [Caroline] Wow. 1569 01:10:51,872 --> 01:10:55,876 - If you have something anomalous in different devices 1570 01:10:55,917 --> 01:11:00,046 at the same time, that reduces the probability. 1571 01:11:00,088 --> 01:11:04,051 This is why for example, I've never bought to the claims 1572 01:11:04,092 --> 01:11:07,179 that the, "Oh, the Nimitz encounter, that was just, 1573 01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:08,513 the radar didn't work." 1574 01:11:08,555 --> 01:11:11,809 So then the pilot's eyes were also deceiving them 1575 01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:15,729 at the exact same time the radar wasn't working properly? 1576 01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:18,065 And the radar wasn't working properly 1577 01:11:18,064 --> 01:11:20,567 at the exact same time the FLIR cameras wasn't. 1578 01:11:20,567 --> 01:11:25,530 It's just so absurd to claim that multiple devices 1579 01:11:25,572 --> 01:11:27,992 and multiple different imaging modalities 1580 01:11:28,033 --> 01:11:31,996 were all conveniently malfunctioning at the same time, 1581 01:11:32,037 --> 01:11:34,039 telling you the same thing? 1582 01:11:34,081 --> 01:11:35,582 That is absolutely insane. 1583 01:11:35,623 --> 01:11:39,627 - Well with all this, well, what is it? 1584 01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:43,215 - Because of how it looks like a hole that is open 1585 01:11:43,256 --> 01:11:45,884 and then closing, we've called it a wormhole, 1586 01:11:45,926 --> 01:11:49,471 which got me obviously extremely excited. 1587 01:11:49,512 --> 01:11:51,140 However, we have to be careful because 1588 01:11:51,180 --> 01:11:54,183 that would be obviously a major scientific discovery 1589 01:11:54,225 --> 01:11:56,353 that would require a great deal more evidence 1590 01:11:56,395 --> 01:11:58,188 than what we have. 1591 01:11:58,229 --> 01:12:01,774 Worst case, if it's not something tied in 1592 01:12:01,817 --> 01:12:04,278 with our main goal, looking for evidence 1593 01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:07,113 of non-human intelligence, this is a new phenomenon 1594 01:12:07,113 --> 01:12:08,823 that's no one's ever discovered. 1595 01:12:08,865 --> 01:12:13,871 This is an unidentified, unclassified new phenomenon. 1596 01:12:15,372 --> 01:12:18,042 - We are adding to the UAP, (laughing) unidentified. 1597 01:12:18,082 --> 01:12:23,129 - We're adding lexicon of unidentified objects. 1598 01:12:23,421 --> 01:12:24,672 - Wow. 1599 01:12:24,715 --> 01:12:26,257 - I forgot who it was who stated, 1600 01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:29,427 "Most scientific discoveries don't begin with Eureka, 1601 01:12:29,470 --> 01:12:30,971 they begin with, 'Huh'." 1602 01:12:31,012 --> 01:12:31,805 (team laughing) 1603 01:12:31,805 --> 01:12:33,015 - Exactly. 1604 01:12:33,056 --> 01:12:34,349 That's exactly what we have here. 1605 01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:37,226 - It's one of those, "Huh, what the heck is that moment?" 1606 01:12:37,269 --> 01:12:39,855 (air whooshing) 1607 01:12:43,524 --> 01:12:46,277 (somber music) 1608 01:13:00,208 --> 01:13:03,295 - I think that interstellar travel's one of those things 1609 01:13:03,337 --> 01:13:07,049 that is not impossible, it's just really hard. 1610 01:13:07,091 --> 01:13:08,342 And it's not impossible, 1611 01:13:08,384 --> 01:13:10,802 even with the laws of physics as we know them. 1612 01:13:10,844 --> 01:13:14,390 What's so fascinating is that when I was six years old, 1613 01:13:14,430 --> 01:13:17,183 I thought that wormholes were real, 1614 01:13:17,225 --> 01:13:19,394 for interstellar transportation. 1615 01:13:19,435 --> 01:13:21,479 I called of them portals at the time. 1616 01:13:21,521 --> 01:13:24,524 They're, what got me dreaming of becoming a physicist. 1617 01:13:24,565 --> 01:13:28,487 And here we are today, we are turning science fiction 1618 01:13:28,529 --> 01:13:30,239 into real science. 1619 01:13:30,279 --> 01:13:32,073 We could be heading towards the biggest, 1620 01:13:32,115 --> 01:13:35,034 "See, I told you so," in history. 1621 01:13:35,077 --> 01:13:38,372 - In 1935, Einstein wrote a paper with his student, 1622 01:13:38,413 --> 01:13:43,210 Nathan Rosen, creating the Einstein-Rosen Bridge, 1623 01:13:43,210 --> 01:13:45,421 a bridge that in principle could allow you 1624 01:13:45,462 --> 01:13:47,423 to break the light barrier. 1625 01:13:47,463 --> 01:13:50,884 Take a black hole, which basically looks like a funnel, 1626 01:13:50,884 --> 01:13:53,261 and put two of them back to back. 1627 01:13:53,302 --> 01:13:56,722 Stick the two funnels together, and you now have a gateway 1628 01:13:56,722 --> 01:13:58,434 between two universes. 1629 01:13:58,475 --> 01:14:00,102 That would allow you in principle, 1630 01:14:00,144 --> 01:14:03,021 to go faster than the speed of light. 1631 01:14:03,063 --> 01:14:05,274 These are wormholes. 1632 01:14:05,314 --> 01:14:06,692 And are they possible? 1633 01:14:06,733 --> 01:14:08,360 Yes, but you would have 1634 01:14:08,402 --> 01:14:11,779 to be a very advanced civilization to do this. 1635 01:14:11,822 --> 01:14:12,864 - What we're seeing are things 1636 01:14:12,905 --> 01:14:16,076 that I think transient reality, 1637 01:14:16,118 --> 01:14:21,123 I come personally, to an area of multidimensional realities 1638 01:14:22,248 --> 01:14:25,126 of some kind that cross over periodically. 1639 01:14:25,168 --> 01:14:29,422 When they are here, the thing is just as physical, 1640 01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:33,760 when it's crossed over, it's physically there. 1641 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,012 But when they separate again, it's not. 1642 01:14:36,054 --> 01:14:38,931 So when you ask the questions, where did it go? 1643 01:14:38,974 --> 01:14:41,435 Where, is not even the right question. 1644 01:14:41,476 --> 01:14:44,563 But it's very hard for us to contemplate things 1645 01:14:44,604 --> 01:14:47,440 that precipitate into physical reality 1646 01:14:48,442 --> 01:14:51,319 and then dissipate into apparent nothingness. 1647 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,654 There's got to be other life forms out there, 1648 01:14:53,697 --> 01:14:57,159 it's my view that there are multiple phenomena 1649 01:14:57,201 --> 01:14:59,453 that are all interrelated. 1650 01:15:01,204 --> 01:15:03,748 - At the end of the day, we're trying to understand 1651 01:15:03,789 --> 01:15:05,792 the nature of our reality. 1652 01:15:05,833 --> 01:15:09,796 How things could be possible when they seem 1653 01:15:09,837 --> 01:15:13,341 to defy the laws of physics, as we know them today. 1654 01:15:13,382 --> 01:15:17,136 Our consciousness is entangled with space itself, 1655 01:15:17,136 --> 01:15:19,430 with everything that we witness. 1656 01:15:19,472 --> 01:15:22,475 But we can't deny an experience once we have it. 1657 01:15:22,518 --> 01:15:25,645 So perhaps our fascination with the mystery of UAPs, 1658 01:15:25,645 --> 01:15:29,815 could these be an extraterrestrial life form visiting us? 1659 01:15:29,858 --> 01:15:31,485 How are they getting here? 1660 01:15:31,527 --> 01:15:35,905 It is perhaps a way for us to understand who we really are, 1661 01:15:35,948 --> 01:15:39,535 how we fit within the bigger picture 1662 01:15:39,576 --> 01:15:42,954 in the cosmic map of the universe. 1663 01:15:42,996 --> 01:15:45,414 - What's a few thousand years to a galaxy 1664 01:15:45,457 --> 01:15:47,042 that is billions of years old? 1665 01:15:47,083 --> 01:15:50,503 There's other civilizations that could be millions 1666 01:15:50,546 --> 01:15:54,550 of years ahead of us, or perhaps millions of years behind. 1667 01:15:54,591 --> 01:15:57,386 That's the scale of the galaxy. 1668 01:15:57,426 --> 01:16:01,305 And that's why I believe they're out there. 1669 01:16:01,347 --> 01:16:03,891 And possibly even here. 1670 01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:05,686 Our main problem is that 1671 01:16:05,726 --> 01:16:09,355 we assume they're just as primitive as we are. 1672 01:16:09,398 --> 01:16:12,025 They can digitize their consciousness 1673 01:16:12,067 --> 01:16:15,529 and put it on a laser beam, and shoot the laser beam 1674 01:16:15,529 --> 01:16:17,239 at the speed of light. 1675 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,702 What's at stake is our understanding of reality itself. 1676 01:16:21,743 --> 01:16:26,582 Our worldview could shatter with one credible incident 1677 01:16:26,622 --> 01:16:30,042 that cannot be refuted. 1678 01:16:30,042 --> 01:16:32,045 - The only explanation that makes any sense is that 1679 01:16:32,087 --> 01:16:34,840 there's something of higher intelligence 1680 01:16:34,881 --> 01:16:37,926 that's got advancement over our technology. 1681 01:16:37,967 --> 01:16:40,429 I think it's gonna change things of the world, 1682 01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:43,765 people are gonna understand there's something out there 1683 01:16:43,806 --> 01:16:47,394 that isn't us, it isn't harming us, 1684 01:16:47,435 --> 01:16:49,438 and we can learn from it. 1685 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,189 This is a paradigm shift. 1686 01:16:51,230 --> 01:16:53,524 (intense music ends) 1687 01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:54,400 - Hi Bill? 1688 01:16:54,443 --> 01:16:55,527 - Hi. 1689 01:16:55,569 --> 01:16:56,778 - Good to see you again. 1690 01:16:56,819 --> 01:16:59,280 - I know I'm so looking forward to what you have have. 1691 01:16:59,323 --> 01:17:00,615 - Oh my God. 1692 01:17:00,657 --> 01:17:01,490 - Oh, really? 1693 01:17:01,533 --> 01:17:03,452 - Crazy. - That crazy? 1694 01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:04,411 - It's crazy. 1695 01:17:04,411 --> 01:17:06,622 - Don't waste another instance. 1696 01:17:06,662 --> 01:17:09,415 I need to see which you've got there. 1697 01:17:09,457 --> 01:17:12,627 - Okay, I've shown you some things before that we found, 1698 01:17:12,668 --> 01:17:14,630 that we're very, very interesting. 1699 01:17:14,671 --> 01:17:15,756 - Yeah. 1700 01:17:15,756 --> 01:17:17,548 It's not a bird, it's not a plane, it's not a blends- 1701 01:17:17,591 --> 01:17:19,635 - It's superman! 1702 01:17:19,676 --> 01:17:24,431 - (laughs) I mean, that has definitely been identified. 1703 01:17:24,430 --> 01:17:26,599 - I can't tell you how excited I am 1704 01:17:26,641 --> 01:17:27,434 to look at what you've got. 1705 01:17:27,475 --> 01:17:28,934 - It's incredible. 1706 01:17:28,976 --> 01:17:32,021 So keep your eye on this side of the frame. 1707 01:17:34,608 --> 01:17:36,025 - Yeah it's darker. - You see that? 1708 01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:42,157 - And then lightens up, and disappears. 1709 01:17:43,533 --> 01:17:44,618 - Uh-huh. 1710 01:17:48,663 --> 01:17:50,666 - Crazy! 1711 01:17:50,707 --> 01:17:53,460 (Caroline laughs) 1712 01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:55,253 It isn't crazy, it's crazy. 1713 01:17:55,295 --> 01:17:56,630 It's crazy. 1714 01:17:56,671 --> 01:17:58,464 - It's insane. 1715 01:17:58,506 --> 01:18:01,092 - Did anybody else analyze that? 1716 01:18:01,134 --> 01:18:02,636 - Everyone. 1717 01:18:02,677 --> 01:18:05,389 Don't forget, our scientists have taken all the data 1718 01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:08,307 for eight weeks nonstop, looking into 1719 01:18:08,307 --> 01:18:10,976 what could this possibly be? 1720 01:18:11,019 --> 01:18:14,481 This is radiation emission, and look at that. 1721 01:18:14,523 --> 01:18:15,524 - And there is a- 1722 01:18:15,564 --> 01:18:17,483 - Huge burst. 1723 01:18:17,484 --> 01:18:19,111 - Incredible! 1724 01:18:19,152 --> 01:18:22,698 - Exactly, of 43.37, that happens exactly at the same time, 1725 01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:29,996 as that opening and closing, then it correlates with radar. 1726 01:18:32,498 --> 01:18:33,708 - Right. - They saw 1727 01:18:33,750 --> 01:18:36,627 this cluster that happens to be exactly 1728 01:18:36,670 --> 01:18:41,132 in the location of that anomaly. 1729 01:18:41,173 --> 01:18:42,509 So- 1730 01:18:42,509 --> 01:18:44,386 - Okay, so you've got a spike in the radiation, 1731 01:18:44,427 --> 01:18:45,720 you've got a figure. 1732 01:18:45,761 --> 01:18:48,889 So what you're saying is that it's amorphous, 1733 01:18:48,931 --> 01:18:51,559 it opens and closes and contracts, 1734 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,520 so it's nothing like we know. 1735 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,480 It's nothing that is human knowledge. 1736 01:18:56,523 --> 01:18:57,606 - Exactly. 1737 01:18:57,649 --> 01:18:58,525 - Reporting at something and saying, 1738 01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:01,194 how mysterious our world is. 1739 01:19:01,194 --> 01:19:04,990 - This is what we think could be, 1740 01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:06,073 - Okay. 1741 01:19:06,115 --> 01:19:07,242 - A wormhole. 1742 01:19:07,283 --> 01:19:10,077 Some sort of gateway, some sort of- 1743 01:19:10,119 --> 01:19:11,747 - Wait a minute, wait a minute. 1744 01:19:11,787 --> 01:19:13,581 It's expanding and contracting? 1745 01:19:13,622 --> 01:19:14,623 - Yeah. 1746 01:19:14,666 --> 01:19:17,043 - Well a wormhole is a separation in time. 1747 01:19:17,042 --> 01:19:17,793 - Yes. 1748 01:19:17,836 --> 01:19:19,087 - Right? 1749 01:19:19,128 --> 01:19:20,838 And so that you can go through this separation, 1750 01:19:20,881 --> 01:19:23,048 you can go into another time zone. 1751 01:19:23,091 --> 01:19:26,052 - That is what the scientists are investigating. 1752 01:19:26,051 --> 01:19:29,555 That has never been explored before in this way 1753 01:19:29,555 --> 01:19:32,099 and recorded and measured. 1754 01:19:32,141 --> 01:19:33,225 - I think this that's wonderful. 1755 01:19:33,268 --> 01:19:34,226 - Yeah, yeah. 1756 01:19:34,269 --> 01:19:35,270 - I think it's glorious. 1757 01:19:35,311 --> 01:19:36,645 - Yes. - That you've gone to 1758 01:19:36,688 --> 01:19:40,609 all this time and expense, to look at phenomena, 1759 01:19:40,649 --> 01:19:42,943 that we don't know anything about, trying to measure it. 1760 01:19:42,985 --> 01:19:44,069 That's great. 1761 01:19:44,069 --> 01:19:45,404 (Sarah laughing) 1762 01:19:45,404 --> 01:19:46,822 That's just wonderful that you're doing that. 1763 01:19:48,073 --> 01:19:52,912 - I hope that with our endeavors out here, 1764 01:19:52,953 --> 01:19:56,957 that people will see that we can research this stuff 1765 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,796 without negative consequences, and we can know 1766 01:20:01,837 --> 01:20:04,925 what these things are, and I hope that in the future, 1767 01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:07,927 that people will come together. 1768 01:20:07,927 --> 01:20:11,264 - It took a lot of work to get to the end of this thing. 1769 01:20:11,305 --> 01:20:14,600 At this moment, having proved what we did, 1770 01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:18,145 and to be successful, its hard for me to find in words. 1771 01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:24,778 I feel paid back and we changed the world. 1772 01:20:27,197 --> 01:20:30,324 - They went above and beyond my expectations. 1773 01:20:30,367 --> 01:20:34,371 They supported each other, they took care of any problems 1774 01:20:34,412 --> 01:20:39,292 and I just can't say anything other than, 1775 01:20:40,627 --> 01:20:43,296 they're absolutely amazing people. 1776 01:20:43,337 --> 01:20:45,798 - I've never seen anything like that before, ever. 1777 01:20:45,798 --> 01:20:48,217 It was something out of a movie almost. 1778 01:20:48,260 --> 01:20:49,636 And the fact that it wasn't military, 1779 01:20:49,677 --> 01:20:51,262 that it wasn't government, 1780 01:20:51,304 --> 01:20:55,850 the fact that it was normal people seeking answers, 1781 01:20:55,891 --> 01:20:57,519 I love that also. 1782 01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,186 Because they're accessible. 1783 01:20:59,229 --> 01:21:01,021 The government will always classify data, 1784 01:21:01,064 --> 01:21:03,316 the government will always hide data obviously, 1785 01:21:03,315 --> 01:21:04,900 but boom, there it is. 1786 01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:08,989 It's on a roof in California. (laughs) 1787 01:21:09,823 --> 01:21:11,324 - Incredible scientists 1788 01:21:11,365 --> 01:21:13,827 are doing incredible scientific experimentation 1789 01:21:13,827 --> 01:21:18,832 and research, to see if there's more to this UAP phenomena, 1790 01:21:20,082 --> 01:21:22,543 and it's gonna change the culture in the world. 1791 01:21:22,586 --> 01:21:24,003 Scientists are gonna have to start taking 1792 01:21:24,003 --> 01:21:25,671 this more seriously, 1793 01:21:25,671 --> 01:21:28,007 if we're gonna get to the bottom of the phenomenon. 1794 01:21:28,048 --> 01:21:31,344 - And indeed we found evidence of strange events 1795 01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:33,221 that you can't explain away. 1796 01:21:33,262 --> 01:21:34,555 You're not gonna tell me 1797 01:21:34,597 --> 01:21:36,807 you have a radioactive bird or plane. 1798 01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:38,518 That's complete nonsense. 1799 01:21:38,518 --> 01:21:40,686 This phenomenon, whatever it is, 1800 01:21:40,686 --> 01:21:44,940 it's not a hoax and not an optical illusion. 1801 01:21:44,983 --> 01:21:48,110 - We have legitimate anomalies. 1802 01:21:48,153 --> 01:21:53,115 The next step in our jobs is to continue analyzing 1803 01:21:54,492 --> 01:21:57,203 the nature and the properties of these objects. 1804 01:21:57,244 --> 01:22:00,039 So that someday we can finally make 1805 01:22:00,039 --> 01:22:02,708 some definitive conclusions about 1806 01:22:02,751 --> 01:22:06,046 what this phenomenon is really about. 1807 01:22:06,046 --> 01:22:11,051 Is it natural, manmade or not of this earth? 1808 01:22:12,260 --> 01:22:15,430 - I believe we started something very important 1809 01:22:15,471 --> 01:22:18,057 in the field of UAP research. 1810 01:22:18,099 --> 01:22:22,895 If we discover the wormhole, a portal, a star gate 1811 01:22:22,895 --> 01:22:26,690 of some sort to other realities, or perhaps for now, 1812 01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:30,904 we can just call it a tear in the sky. 1813 01:22:30,945 --> 01:22:33,948 (upbeat music ends) 1814 01:22:36,701 --> 01:22:39,162 (bouncy music) 1815 01:22:40,788 --> 01:22:42,081 - Definitely some stuff going on 1816 01:22:42,082 --> 01:22:43,583 that we don't know about, for sure. 1817 01:22:43,582 --> 01:22:45,542 - I think there's other beings on other planets 1818 01:22:45,585 --> 01:22:46,795 that have visited us. 1819 01:22:46,836 --> 01:22:48,755 - No, I think no one's told us they visited us, 1820 01:22:48,796 --> 01:22:50,381 because we'd be scared. 1821 01:22:50,422 --> 01:22:52,300 - Some things, were not supposed to know. 1822 01:22:52,341 --> 01:22:53,842 - That's why they keep it a big secret, 1823 01:22:53,885 --> 01:22:55,552 that's why there's a conspiracy. 1824 01:22:55,595 --> 01:22:57,597 - Because they're way smarter than we are. 1825 01:22:57,596 --> 01:22:58,931 - No one's ready. 1826 01:22:58,931 --> 01:23:00,975 - They probably don't really wanna be associated 1827 01:23:01,016 --> 01:23:02,351 with a bunch of morons. 1828 01:23:02,394 --> 01:23:05,230 - They're definitely on some science that we're not at yet. 1829 01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:07,773 - Yeah, if anything, we've taken from them. 1830 01:23:07,815 --> 01:23:10,109 - They might be ahead of us or behind us. 1831 01:23:10,109 --> 01:23:11,318 We never know. 1832 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,904 - Probably they have the iPhone 21. 1833 01:23:13,947 --> 01:23:15,614 They're just waiting till the time 1834 01:23:15,614 --> 01:23:17,617 to give that information to Apple. 1835 01:23:17,658 --> 01:23:18,909 - If hypothetically, 1836 01:23:18,952 --> 01:23:19,869 - Yes? 1837 01:23:19,911 --> 01:23:21,704 - A spaceship would land right now. 1838 01:23:21,746 --> 01:23:22,788 - Yes. 1839 01:23:22,831 --> 01:23:24,123 - And an extraterrestrial would say, 1840 01:23:24,123 --> 01:23:26,126 "Hey Bill, come on board with me." 1841 01:23:26,167 --> 01:23:27,419 - I would love to. 1842 01:23:27,460 --> 01:23:30,005 I would embrace that and say, "Come in peace. 1843 01:23:30,046 --> 01:23:31,006 We live in peace. 1844 01:23:31,046 --> 01:23:31,964 We want knowledge." 1845 01:23:31,965 --> 01:23:34,300 And I'd go into the spaceship 1846 01:23:34,300 --> 01:23:37,137 and let them give me a baby. (laughs) 1847 01:23:37,177 --> 01:23:40,974 - Oh, I love that. (chuckling) 1848 01:23:41,015 --> 01:23:44,810 - The next time you are kidnapped by an alien civilization, 1849 01:23:44,810 --> 01:23:47,146 for God's sake, steal something. 1850 01:23:47,188 --> 01:23:51,150 An alien hammer, an alien pencil, an alien paperweight. 1851 01:23:51,192 --> 01:23:53,028 There's no law against stealing 1852 01:23:53,069 --> 01:23:55,030 from an extraterrestrial civilization. 1853 01:23:55,070 --> 01:23:57,948 You're not gonna go to jail, and you'll have proof, 1854 01:23:57,990 --> 01:24:02,119 living proof that you've been in that flying saucer. 1855 01:24:02,162 --> 01:24:04,998 - I think it's extraordinary that you've spent your time 1856 01:24:05,039 --> 01:24:06,666 and your money doing that. 1857 01:24:06,707 --> 01:24:11,003 If we could explain something that humans don't understand, 1858 01:24:11,046 --> 01:24:15,341 and we have a valid certified explanation of something 1859 01:24:15,382 --> 01:24:19,054 that has been a mystery, and no longer is a mystery, 1860 01:24:19,095 --> 01:24:23,975 that only adds to this textbook of knowledge 1861 01:24:24,016 --> 01:24:27,686 that human beings are striving every day to fill. 1862 01:24:27,729 --> 01:24:30,106 And if you can fill that with one sentence, 1863 01:24:30,148 --> 01:24:34,027 let alone a chapter, it would be wondrous. 1864 01:24:34,069 --> 01:24:39,074 And I am filled with joy that you're making these forays 1865 01:24:41,033 --> 01:24:44,369 out into the stuff we see and don't see, 1866 01:24:44,412 --> 01:24:46,414 and trying to find an explanation. 1867 01:24:46,456 --> 01:24:49,751 That's wonderful, and I wish you well. 1868 01:24:49,792 --> 01:24:50,876 - Thank you. 1869 01:24:50,877 --> 01:24:53,463 (intense music) 145519

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