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In October of 2017, a former DOD counterintelligence agent
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had come forward with a story.
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ERIN: Upfront now. the former Pentagon military official
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who ran the covert government program up until this last November,
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Luis Elizondo, tell us what the purpose of the program was and what did you find?
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Well, we found a lot.
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And his story was that he was involved in an effort
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within the Pentagon to investigate UFOs or what they were calling now,
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officially Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
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UAPs. That's what we call it.
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It comes down to some of the new infrared radar systems that we're putting in
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some of our new jets, are detecting some things out there.
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We have questions...
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December of 2017
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with The New York Times and the explosive article
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about a secret government Pentagon UFO program.
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That brought in a huge amount of people that were interested in this subject.
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And that essentially created a firestorm of publicity
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not only for the individual and the program,
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but also put a spotlight on the Pentagon.
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Well, after decades of denial and secrecy and flat out lying, America's defense establishment
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is finally admitting some of what it knows about UFO.
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The purpose of the program, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program,
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was really designed to do just that,
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uh, from a national security perspective.
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Identify those things that we see.
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Whether we see them, electro-optically,
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we see them with radar, we see them as eyewitness reports.
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Um, through a myriad of different ways and avenues
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that we received the information
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and try to ascertain and determine if that information
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is a potential threat to national security.
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About a year after Elizondo came forward,
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a very interesting thing happened, which is pretty rare
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when it comes to official statements.
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And that is, the Pentagon essentially fired a shot across the bow, so to speak,
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and said Luis Elizondo did not work on that effort that he said he did,
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which was called AATIP.
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The Pentagon says, he never was director of the Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program.
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Retired Senator Reid, who funded AATIP
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came on television saying, "I'm defending Lue Elizondo
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because I know that he is telling the truth."
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MAN: Reid says the UFO mystery was always the primary focus,
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starting with the very first meeting he had with a scientist
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from the Defense Intelligence Agency.
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DIA released a letter from the late Senator John McCain,
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who'd requested all available materials from AATIP for his arm services committee.
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Reid and McCain were from different parties, but were close.
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John knew what I was doing. I mean, he didn't...
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He didn't hide the fact that he was interested also.
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LINDA: Pressure to the Pentagon to stop lying.
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And he ends up with an attorney, and now he gets attacked.
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Daniel Sheehan, who did the Pentagon Papers,
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Iran-Contra, the Silkwood Case and many others
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is now working with Luis Elizondo.
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Active general of the Pentagon, had been pulled in to look into complaints from Luis Elizondo,
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at the insistence of Daniel Sheehan
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about him being, uh, threatened with loss of his security clearance
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because... not because he was disclosing classified material
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but because he went off the leash and was not wanting
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to continue to say the falsehood
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that these were an alien threat.
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The To the Stars Academy people
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kept on telling them that they had to be presenting it like it's a potential threat.
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Because they were trying to get Congress to have an investigation.
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How could this man come out?
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Start talking openly, get all this publicity and make these bombshell claims.
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And the Pentagon says, "Nope, none of that is true."
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Is the evidence not there because the Pentagon is involved in this big cover up?
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Or is Elizondo embellishing what his role really was?
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Is he lying?
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Is he telling the absolute truth?
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The Pentagon doesn't have a great history with this topic.
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So how do we know who to believe?
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Now we're into internecine warfare.
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It is in the Pentagon, between offices,
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that is out in the seventeen Intel agencies,
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most famous CIA, NSA, DIA,
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and they are all fighting each other
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over this basic question.
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Who and when tells at least the United States of America
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that we're not alone in this universe.
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We have never been alone in this universe.
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[SCI-FI MUSIC PLAYING]
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We're not dealing with a single op coming from above.
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I think we're dealing with factions that are involved in a fight.
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There is a faction of individuals
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connected to the establishment who, for their own reasons,
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want some level of open conversation about UFOs to come out.
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But the fact is they're dealing with a very entrenched establishment
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that doesn't want any of this information to come out even now.
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So we're not talking about a coordinated, single, monolithic operation here.
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We're dealing with a fight.
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But in the same time as this controversy was brewing over here,
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another one began to sprout.
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And essentially what that controversy was
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was now the politicians were getting involved.
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It didn't matter if Elizondo was telling the truth or not.
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It didn't matter if AATIP was researching UFOs or not.
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What the reality was was that UFOs were real.
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And not only were they real, they were a potential threat.
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Military pilots were being profiled by The New York Times, by the History Channel.
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These men and women who were flying in our skies,
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who encountered technology that we, to this day cannot explain,
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were now in the spotlight.
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MAN: It's one thing that of one person sees one of these objects.
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Okay, that's great.
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When you go out there every day, and you see them and your brothers,
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sisters and other squadron, are seeing them,
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you know, it's like, okay, well, this is probably some
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type of, uh, maybe drone thing or something that they're testing out.
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It wasn't until someone actually saw one go
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in between two aircraft at a close range by within 150 feet
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that he was starting to get worrisome.
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We have nothing
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that goes that fast and just starts climbing at will.
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When it gets right in front of me,
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it just disappears.
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So politicians saw that and they said, "We need answers.
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"We need to figure this out."
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So on one hand, the Pentagon says, "Hey, we never did it."
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On the other hand, politicians say, "You better start."
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And so that created the effort of what's called the UAP Task Force.
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MAN: The Corona relief bill the president signed last month
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contains a provision that hasn't gotten a lot of attention.
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It directs the director of National Intelligence
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consultation with secretary of Defense and the heads of other agencies
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to disclose if they know about UFO's within 180 days.
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When I saw that first headline in The New York Times
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that Marco Rubio in Florida had managed to get attacked
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to a COVID funding bill and you're coming down
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through line items having to do with budgets
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and then just three words Advanced Aerial Threat.
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It's like a non-secretory inside of the COVID funding bill.
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And you're reading about a request from Congress
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to the Director of National Intelligence and to the Secretary of Defense
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that they are to work in collaboration to make a reply to the people
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being requested by the Senate on what our advanced aerial threats.
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Is there a possibility of source having to do with foreign adversaries?
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That's what it says.
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Foreign adversaries could have been China, Russia and North Korea.
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Foreign adversaries can also be hostile ETs.
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And that they had a 180 day countdown from the signature
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of the President on December 27th, 2020
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to deliver this information to the public and the media.
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To essentially brief Congress in the Senate on their development,
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their findings.
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What's the status?
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Where, where we at with UAPs?
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Are they a threat? Are they not?
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Can we explain 'em, can we not?
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And so that controversy that a lot of people have focused on, myself included,
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was very beneficial in the end, because now it has forced an effort
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forced funding to go into the coffers to try and figure out what UAPS are.
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And now we're seeing results.
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LINDA: So everybody got into this 180 day countdown
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and I thought the government of the United States,
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they could make a countdown to,
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"We are finally going to tell you the truth, and we can say we are sorry.
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"We are sorry that we learned about extraterrestrial
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"biological entities during World War Two.
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"We couldn't talk then.
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"The policies continued.
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"We apologize, but we are now going to tell you what we know
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"about the universe that we live in."
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This would have been wonderful
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because the United States is feeling as if they don't...
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No one knows what our government is anymore.
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This could have been a chance to say we're going to collaborate
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with the representatives of the people in what is supposed to be
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a government of by and for the people.
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And we will use this 180 day countdown to crack open,
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"We are not alone in this universe."
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RICHARD: Will we have the truth come out? The full truth on UFOs.
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Of course, I don't think anyone really thought about that,
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believed that.
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Imagine like there's this...
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It's like complicated net that's in the bottom of this sludge.
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And it's got rocks and stuff in it and you're trying to pull it out.
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You just can't pull it out.
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There's so much in there, and there are forces
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behind the scenes that will have to be...
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They have got the door barred and locked,
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and that's the door that's going to have to be broken down.
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And it's not going to happen voluntarily.
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Like that door will not be opened by the other side voluntarily.
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JIMMY: And now the word comes out about the UAPTF report,
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and the government is now admitting that UFOs are real.
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We're being visited.
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And here we go.
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And we are now a friend of the people.
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And we're here to support all of this.
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And disclosure is here.
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No, we've gone through seventy years of ridicule and conspiracy theorists
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and tinfoil hats, and we're crazy.
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We're hallucinating.
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We're... We're mental issues, you know,
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and that's what the UFO community has been portrayed as.
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And suddenly they're our friend?
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What we saw was a report that played this down to such an extent.
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They didn't even say national security threat.
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It wouldn't use the word threat,
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they called it a national security challenge.
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That's a sign that what we're still seeing
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is an attempt to play this down to the max.
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If it is decided that this is a threat,
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then what happens to the close encounter witnesses.
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Are we associated with a hostile foreign power.
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What is our legal position then?
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Going back to like the Brookings report.
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We know that this type of information can have a destabilizing effect
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on culture, on religions and everything,
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so you understand why they would withhold it.
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But at the same time, it's also up to the individual to get motivated
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and to start to figure this out for themselves as well.
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Who wants a government telling us what to do about everything,
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and what to believe about UFO's and extraterrestrials?
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I don't. So this is the part of the motivation
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that this report has provided us is that
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the individual can now go out and seek those answers.
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One of the biggest things to emerge from the UAP task force
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and the report that they recently produced, which, although was a letdown.
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Essentially, what that produces for someone like me is what I call FOIA fodder.
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I often visualize the Freedom of Information Act
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when you utilize that as a tree that when you file a Freedom of Information Act,
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request that your trunk,
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you get a document or maybe five documents.
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But but if done correctly, the publishing of that UAP report
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will branch off into other cases,
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other avenues.
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It resulted in me filing over fifty Freedom of Information Act requests,
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trying to see what went in to those nine pages.
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We already see evidence that there's 144 cases that I can go after.
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It told the academic and scientific communities that this is a real mystery.
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That is the first time in history anything at an official level of locomotion
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has admitted that.
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And to me, that is, it makes it a historic document.
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I was getting reports from people in Washington
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about how disappointing even the classified report was,
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that Lue Elizondo, who had been head of the Advanced Aerial
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uh, Research Threat Identification Program in the Pentagon.
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He had been saying more on television
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about the observables of this phenomena
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that could not be any human.
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What's important is that we have identified
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some very, very interesting, anomalous type of aircraft.
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Let's call them aircraft. Things that don't have a...
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Any obvious flight surfaces, any obvious forms of propulsion
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and maneuvering in ways that include extreme maneuverability beyond,
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uh, I would submit the healthy G forces of human or anything biological,
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and you can have a human in any kind of an aircraft
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that goes12,000 miles an hour
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and does a ninety minute corner turn in the sky,
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not physically possible for humans.
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And Lue Elizondo has been saying this now for three or four months.
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Whether you're a huge fan of Luis Elizondo
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or whether you doubt everything that he says,
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no one can hide from the fact that there's a lot of mystery
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and a lot of intrigue about him as essentially a character in this story.
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That controversy fuels an awful lot of speculation.
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You can't help but start asking questions on why is a counterintelligence agent
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who was formerly with the Department of Defense,
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who has a decade upon decade long history of covering up UFOs now out in the open,
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saying he worked on a UFO project and we need to know more of the truth.
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Sadly, we just don't have the evidence to say either way.
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Hey, Roger, this is Jimmy, I've got great news.
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I finally chased down Lue and he agrees with us
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that this is too important of a picture.
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He's got to get his message out and he is ready to go.
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Give me a call back when you can, and we'll discuss the details.
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Allow me for, for a brief moment to explain my position
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and why I've decided to... to do, particularly this... this interview.
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I'm doing it because I have two daughters.
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I'm doing it because I'm a father because I'm a citizen.
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Uh, I'm a patriot, I'm a husband,
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and I'm trying to continue the mission that I was given so many years ago
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with the Department of Defense.
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As crazy as it may sound,
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um, I was never relieved of my obligations.
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The work that I do, much of it is behind the scenes.
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And I'm not sure people appreciate the work
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that folks like Chris Mellon and myself are doing
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and my colleagues behind the scenes
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because it's... It's a bit like a submarine,
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uh, that's under the ocean.
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Um, you don't see it until you see it.
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My colleagues and I have committed our lives to this
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and our livelihood to this, um, this isn't a game.
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This isn't a hobby.
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This isn't an interest, you know.
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This is... This is... This is real.
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This has been a very difficult journey for me.
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It's a journey that I wouldn't... Wouldn't recommend any of my friends to take.
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Certainly no one that I care about our love to take its...
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It's been very difficult.
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But I'll tell you, it's also been worse for other people,
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and I'm certainly not going to complain
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because I got out relatively unscathed.
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Yeah, my people are attacking my credibility and what not.
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But at the end of the day, you know, I, uh I'm still here and...
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That's not necessarily true for some other people.
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This topic has been fraught with conflict controversy,
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and I think, uh, some people have had really had to pay a significant price.
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Hopefully, some of those heroes will be able to step out of the shadows here soon.
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And, and we can stand shoulder to shoulder
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and have a more comprehensive conversation with the American people.
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I was. I was one of those "Men in Black".
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I guess, um, but I realize it's probably better now to be,
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you know, as one of my colleagues says,
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you know, "I'd rather be known as the men in white",
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you know, truth bringing, bringing truth to the topic.
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You know, I still hold myself accountable.
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I, I still feel you want to how Lue Elizondo feels.
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I still feel incredibly guilty.
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I feel incredibly guilty that... That, uh, I didn't have this conversation sooner.
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Imagine for one moment if, if it turns out that the US government
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really was and has been continuing to be involved
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in this topic and has has kept that secret not only
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from the American people, which is bad enough
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but even kept it from itself, right?
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People who are paid to be in the know,
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people that run special access programs,
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people that are charged with oversight of the... of these things.
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And you have a... A major defense contractor who had an unfair advantage
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because they were asked to look at exotic material, potentially.
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Uh, I'm not going to go into origins here but just say hypothetically,
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we're able to look at, uh, some interesting material,
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while other defense industry partners weren't given that same access right.
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And so now this defense partner comes up with all sorts of innovations,
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and, you know, it's a multi billion dollar company.
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Meanwhile, these other companies may have gone bankrupt, right,
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and people lost their jobs and likelihoods all because, you know, one company
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was given access or privy to information while... While another one wasn't.
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The US Government in the past has been involved
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in a pretty terrible things against the American people
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that were not at the interests of the American people,
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and the American government had to be held accountable for that.
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So now comes the hard part.
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Um, now that we have acknowledgment,
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I think we're now at the point, as a nation,
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between our elected officials in Congress,
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between our senior officials in the executive branch,
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even former presidents, former directors of CIA,
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former directors of National Intelligence.
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I think the national conversation has begun, and I think we have now,
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we have now officially acknowledged the reality of this.
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Um...
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What we haven't done yet is
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have a complete and truthful conversation
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about the American people, of how long we've known about it.
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We now know our government has acknowledged the reality of this
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that this phenomenon exists.
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Whatever 'it' is, it is real.
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We have now the official establishment of the UAP task force.
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You have the release of three videos being acknowledged
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by the government as being official authentic videos.
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And furthermore, that they depict some sort of UAP, unidentified aerial phenomena.
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You have classified briefings being provided to Congress.
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You have presidents now being brought into the loop of this.
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You have senators like Marco Rubio on both sides,
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and, and, of course, my very, very dear friend, Senator Harry Reid,
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coming out and joining hands.
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And saying this is a topic that we need to discuss.
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The fact that there are things that are operating in our controlled US Airspace,
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that we have no idea what they are, we have no idea how they work.
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We have no idea the origins or the intent or full capabilities or anything else.
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I think at some point, uh, we will be faced
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with the, with the eminent reality that either we are alone or that we're not alone.
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And I think it's looking more and more likely that we're probably not alone.
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One night I was driving with Tony Schiavone. We were down in Georgia.
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I had left the WWF and I was with WCW.
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We're coming back from somewhere in Georgia in the middle of the night.
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Something occurred in the Georgia skies that night when we were driving home late,
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that we both turned to each other in the car
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and we both said, what in the hell was that?
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And it was a massive light form that occurred in the sky,
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and Tony and I, we weren't drunk or anything of that nature.
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We couldn't figure out what it was
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and today I still don't know what it was.
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But I didn't have the means
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or the wherewithal at that time to at all be able to pursue
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or attempt to learn what it was. It's today a simple memory.
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MAN: As governor, he made money on the side.
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-That's for you, you little bastard. -[CROWD CHEERING]
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MAN: As a foul-mouthed WWE referee,
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Ventura created the modern anti-establishment,
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anti-media, anti-career politician.
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-...as we shock the world! -[CROWD CHEERING]
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MAN: Ventura's win was so shocking
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that Donald Trump came to Minnesota to see for himself.
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[CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING]
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And the American Dream lives on in Minnesota
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-as we shock the world. -[CROWD CHEERING]
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After I won the election,
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I was contacted by the Central Intelligence Agency,
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and they asked if I would meet with 21 of them
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in the bowels of the Capitol, and I said, sure.
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Uh, they put me in a chair at the end of the room.
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And they were half-circled around me
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and they wanted to know how I won the election.
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Their job is to gather intelligence and apparently nobody saw me coming.
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And so they figured it was better to learn of it after the fact.
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And so they could be, maybe, prepared next time.
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Now with the part that got me a little is,
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what are they preparing for? Are they preparing for the fact that
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their intelligence gathering was that bad, that they didn't see me coming?
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Or are they preparing for the fact now to be in position so that
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nothing like me can ever happen again?
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And I kind of think it's the latter.
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He's crazy. He's a conspiracy theorist.
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They marginalize you.
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It's what they try to do, and they do that, and to do that to me
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is tougher for them because I'm elected governor.
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JESSE: He served the least amount of time.
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They wouldn't even let him do one term, that showed his greatness.
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I believe he had more enemies within our own government than all of the,
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you know, the Russians and all of them combined.
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He was more hated within our own government. I believe that today.
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What truly got me involved in questioning things was the murder of John F. Kennedy.
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I read many things that the public was unaware of and didn't know.
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If they will lie to you or they'll deceive you
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about something as important as what that turned out to be,
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which was a coup d'etat, for lack of any better term,
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for the change in our government.
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If they will lie over that, then what other things do they keep from regular people?
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If Lee Harvey Oswald was who they told us he was,
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a little disgruntled lone nut
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who was angry at Kennedy and wanted notoriety.
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So he decided to kill the president.
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Why would there be need to lock up anything?
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The National Archives is expected to release
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thousands of previously secret files
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on the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
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This time, they still have not been released. But when they are,
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experts say they could reveal more of what the FBI and CIA knew.
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When President Donald Trump took office, a very interesting event unfolded,
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and that was a sitting US President saying
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we're going to declassify everything on the JFK assassination.
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TV ANNOUNCER: Tonight, President Trump said
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he is clearing the way for the rest of the files.
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The only exception, he says, will be the names and addresses of people who are still alive.
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The president said he's making the decision to put any and all conspiracy theories to rest.
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President Trump tonight, though, did not say when
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he will allow the release of those remaining documents.
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JOHN: That effort by him, even though it was just a tweet,
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essentially set in motion
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the declassification of records on the JFK assassination.
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And although they declassified a ton,
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there are still thousands that they told the president,
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no, we are not going to declassify them.
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What made the man who prided himself on shaking up the swamp
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and draining it and turning everything upside down?
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What made him go, you guys were right. I'll support that.
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So it really makes you wonder, how much power does the President really have?
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How much knowledge do they really have?
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There's a lot of evidence to indicate
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people who, very well, could be involved,
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but without the release of all documents,
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and because 60 years have now gone by,
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and everyone who was involved, probably today is certainly dead.
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If what they tell you is the truth,
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there is no need to lock up anything and withhold it from public.
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Why would there be?
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So, there's still a lot of,
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I would say, material secrets,
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truth, behind the JFK assassination that has yet to be revealed.
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There's a lot of theories floating around. There's a lot of people who claim to know why
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he was assassinated.
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In some instances, they'll even combine conspiracy theories
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and say JFK wanted to declassify UFO documents
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so ergo, he was assassinated by the intelligence community.
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Of course, there's no strong evidence to support that.
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Do I have the documents to prove?
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No.
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Have I talked with people who were first hand
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when Kennedy was assassinated?
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And what they told me? Yes.
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Apparently, as it's been explained to me,
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Dulles actually said to somebody
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I have clear authority
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to assassinate the President of the United States
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if he threatens our national security.
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Having to do with extraterrestrial and UFOs.
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We now have documents
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that show that John F. Kennedy
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only a few days before the assassination, in Dallas,
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had written a memo request
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to the director of the CIA
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with CCs to other people.
490
00:30:54,419 --> 00:30:59,057
And it was about, he was ordering that the United States
491
00:30:59,090 --> 00:31:03,428
collaborate with Russia to go to the moon.
492
00:31:05,263 --> 00:31:08,733
I think that the JFK assassination
493
00:31:08,766 --> 00:31:13,838
is a metaphor for all history when it comes to the United States...
494
00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:19,143
...that UFOs and ETs from World War II on...
495
00:31:20,278 --> 00:31:25,550
...became the separation point of the entire planet.
496
00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:29,821
Those who would know the truth,
497
00:31:29,854 --> 00:31:33,691
small, unable to talk
498
00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:35,827
or they would be killed.
499
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:38,596
And death was used to make sure
500
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:44,836
that the people on the inside knew, if you tell anyone, you will die.
501
00:31:44,869 --> 00:31:49,374
President Kennedy made so many enemies when he was in office.
502
00:31:49,407 --> 00:31:52,777
You probably have at least five entities
503
00:31:52,810 --> 00:31:56,981
who could have did it and who could have joined together to do it
504
00:31:57,015 --> 00:31:58,917
and who may have done it.
505
00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,319
We got St. John Hunt,
506
00:32:01,352 --> 00:32:05,990
the son of the infamous E. Howard Hunt
507
00:32:06,024 --> 00:32:08,993
of CIA Watergate fame
508
00:32:09,027 --> 00:32:14,666
confessed to knowing about the JFK killing
509
00:32:14,699 --> 00:32:19,671
on his death bed to his son on film.
510
00:32:19,704 --> 00:32:21,506
We aired that film.
511
00:32:21,539 --> 00:32:26,444
I thought there would be headlines across America the next day.
512
00:32:26,477 --> 00:32:28,947
E. Howard Hunt admits
513
00:32:28,980 --> 00:32:32,917
to involvement in the killing of JFK.
514
00:32:32,951 --> 00:32:35,420
'Cause this is a well-known man.
515
00:32:35,453 --> 00:32:38,356
HOWARD: I think it's essential to refocus
516
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:42,026
uh, what this information consists of
517
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:45,463
that is important in the story
518
00:32:45,496 --> 00:32:50,168
is that we backtrack the chain of command.
519
00:32:50,201 --> 00:32:54,238
There wasn't one word in the mainstream media.
520
00:32:54,272 --> 00:32:58,009
There wasn't one word that it was even talked about
521
00:32:58,042 --> 00:33:02,213
that E. Howard Hunt confessed to a role
522
00:33:02,246 --> 00:33:04,716
in the killing of John Kennedy.
523
00:33:04,749 --> 00:33:07,085
He said it was called the big event
524
00:33:07,118 --> 00:33:10,221
and he named all the people that were involved.
525
00:33:10,254 --> 00:33:14,192
So if you choose to believe E. Howard Hunt,
526
00:33:14,225 --> 00:33:17,161
he will tell you who everybody was
527
00:33:17,195 --> 00:33:22,066
and he finished it off with the initials LBJ.
528
00:33:25,870 --> 00:33:29,707
Enter Nessie warfare.
529
00:33:29,741 --> 00:33:35,580
John F. Kennedy's administration clearly was being torn apart
530
00:33:35,613 --> 00:33:40,151
by all of these undercurrents of a black world.
531
00:33:40,184 --> 00:33:42,687
When you look at the history of the intelligence community
532
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,623
and the different agencies and what their mission statements are,
533
00:33:45,656 --> 00:33:49,594
what the scope of their work is, you realize that a lot of them were
534
00:33:49,627 --> 00:33:54,432
essentially doing many of the same things without the knowledge of the other.
535
00:33:54,465 --> 00:33:57,702
It seems that it became very territorial.
536
00:33:57,735 --> 00:34:00,738
There are even instances where, especially with the mind control
537
00:34:00,772 --> 00:34:03,908
experiments of the CIA, that they learn about
538
00:34:03,941 --> 00:34:06,744
the military research that was going on.
539
00:34:06,778 --> 00:34:07,879
And what did they do?
540
00:34:07,912 --> 00:34:09,781
They started stealing the research.
541
00:34:09,814 --> 00:34:12,817
They started realizing that even though the military originally
542
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:17,855
began to figure out how to defend against mind control techniques
543
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:19,690
that were being developed by the Soviets.
544
00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:25,663
The CIA finds a way to start extracting that information into their own vault,
545
00:34:25,696 --> 00:34:27,331
so to speak,
546
00:34:27,365 --> 00:34:30,902
and then realizing, okay, this cannot only be for defensive. It could be offense.
547
00:34:30,935 --> 00:34:35,540
So then they started their own research without the knowledge of anyone else.
548
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,276
And so you see a lot of that territorial nature
549
00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:41,446
when it comes to research, when it comes to essentially
550
00:34:41,479 --> 00:34:44,649
stealing intelligence from each other, it's, it's something
551
00:34:44,682 --> 00:34:49,153
that has gone on for decades and I'm sure still goes on today.
552
00:34:49,187 --> 00:34:51,756
LINDA: Lieutenant Colonel Philip J. Corso, he said,
553
00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:57,595
"Linda, our greatest was the inter Nessie warfare
554
00:34:57,628 --> 00:35:01,332
that existed between military branches."
555
00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:04,035
So nothing has changed.
556
00:35:04,068 --> 00:35:09,474
It's just gotten deeper, blacker and more
557
00:35:09,507 --> 00:35:14,245
and more encompassing an impactful
558
00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:17,548
on everything that is happening in the United States.
559
00:35:17,582 --> 00:35:20,451
I think when it comes to secrecy, the smartest move
560
00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:25,356
and what I would bet that they've done is created a segmented layer
561
00:35:25,389 --> 00:35:27,892
of the U.S. Government and the intelligence community
562
00:35:27,925 --> 00:35:31,496
to handle the secrets that need to be kept in perpetuity.
563
00:35:31,529 --> 00:35:33,764
Some of those have leaked out over time.
564
00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:35,366
Some of those we may never know.
565
00:35:35,399 --> 00:35:37,802
JESSE: Look at the Manhattan Project.
566
00:35:37,835 --> 00:35:45,076
There were over one hundred thousand people involved in the Manhattan Project.
567
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:47,645
And yet, because it's so compartmentalized,
568
00:35:47,678 --> 00:35:50,581
which is how government gets away with things,
569
00:35:50,615 --> 00:35:52,416
they compartmentalize everything.
570
00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:55,486
The left hand don't know what the right hand's doing.
571
00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,726
Nothing was leaked until the bomb actually hit in Japan,
572
00:36:01,759 --> 00:36:06,631
and then the world knew of this power we had created
573
00:36:06,664 --> 00:36:10,735
that will haunt us to mankind's very end.
574
00:36:10,768 --> 00:36:18,643
Is it possible that you could have a level of secrecy in our world
575
00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:25,383
that caused a certain segment of our civilization to innocents breakaway.
576
00:36:25,416 --> 00:36:27,718
What would be the cosmology of these people?
577
00:36:27,752 --> 00:36:29,720
They would have science that would be off limits.
578
00:36:29,754 --> 00:36:33,824
They would have an understanding of the world and us in the universe
579
00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:38,329
that the rest of us poor slobs out there would not have,
580
00:36:38,362 --> 00:36:42,300
and maybe even interactions with these other beings.
581
00:36:42,333 --> 00:36:44,769
And I ended up calling it a breakaway civilization.
582
00:36:44,802 --> 00:36:48,506
They segmented out. They're not the ones that are the elected officials.
583
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:51,008
They're not the ones that are sitting in the White House.
584
00:36:51,042 --> 00:36:52,543
They're not the ones that are sitting
585
00:36:52,577 --> 00:36:55,246
in front of television cameras answering the question.
586
00:36:55,279 --> 00:37:01,052
It's like Lessing Roswell was suddenly recovered exotic, non human technology,
587
00:37:01,085 --> 00:37:07,291
and studied it in deep black budget, ultra-classified special access programs.
588
00:37:07,325 --> 00:37:10,094
And, and what if in those special access programs,
589
00:37:10,127 --> 00:37:15,199
our scientists developed, um, some insight scientifically
590
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,369
in terms of propulsion for terms of energy.
591
00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:20,871
So you would have a breakthrough in terms of energy
592
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:23,574
and a breakthrough in terms, maybe other things.
593
00:37:23,608 --> 00:37:27,578
And those scientists would then be off to the races.
594
00:37:27,612 --> 00:37:30,314
They, they have this secret, which would be classified
595
00:37:30,348 --> 00:37:33,751
and literally off limits to anyone in the outside,
596
00:37:33,784 --> 00:37:37,755
who might stumble across it and would not be permitted to pursue it.
597
00:37:37,788 --> 00:37:42,960
What I've come to see in these interactions with UAPs,
598
00:37:42,994 --> 00:37:49,767
is that it's technology way beyond that typical person's comprehension.
599
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,671
It's perhaps, as some believe, a thousand years in advance
600
00:37:53,704 --> 00:37:57,375
of what we know in our culture today.
601
00:37:57,408 --> 00:38:03,814
As they would develop and isolate and control,
602
00:38:03,848 --> 00:38:06,384
NSA and CIA,
603
00:38:06,417 --> 00:38:09,453
they didn't want to go out and get their hands dirty.
604
00:38:09,487 --> 00:38:12,957
So it's my understanding the Defense Intelligence Agency
605
00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:17,461
gets created to be the body whose exclusive power
606
00:38:17,495 --> 00:38:21,132
will be if something crashes,
607
00:38:21,165 --> 00:38:22,967
if some being shows up,
608
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,305
if something's happening, it will be DEA that will be assigned to go out
609
00:38:27,338 --> 00:38:34,145
into the world and do the investigations and bring back the material.
610
00:38:34,178 --> 00:38:40,284
Could we have our own little flying saucers, which we've heard about rumors.
611
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:43,688
You know, our own alien reproduction vehicles.
612
00:38:43,721 --> 00:38:47,558
When the government has a weapon that you know about,
613
00:38:47,591 --> 00:38:53,097
you can rest assured they've probably had it for a least a decade, if not more.
614
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:57,335
I would say there are certainly weapons we have today
615
00:38:57,368 --> 00:39:01,439
that many people probably are unaware we have.
616
00:39:01,472 --> 00:39:03,841
For example, if you if you came up with an energy,
617
00:39:03,874 --> 00:39:07,611
a solution that surpassed petroleum that might not necessarily
618
00:39:07,645 --> 00:39:13,084
be allowed, literally allowed to come out. Why?
619
00:39:13,117 --> 00:39:16,487
Well, we all know the story of what happened to Nikola Tesla.
620
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,291
JESSE: Tesla discovered what's called free energy,
621
00:39:20,324 --> 00:39:25,996
that there's energy all around us, and that if we harness this free energy,
622
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:30,101
we would have no need any more to have cars or fuel cars.
623
00:39:30,134 --> 00:39:35,873
In other words, Tesla could put the fossil fuel business out of business.
624
00:39:35,906 --> 00:39:40,344
The government came on, came in and physically confiscated
625
00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:45,950
all of his work so that therefore it would not be seen by the public.
626
00:40:00,264 --> 00:40:05,703
I spent a good deal of time examining one by one the papers, the books.
627
00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:07,905
But I was particularly looking for something
628
00:40:07,938 --> 00:40:12,977
which would, uh, just be evidence of a secret weapon,
629
00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:17,681
which I was reminded by the agents, two agents who were present
630
00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:23,788
during the entire time that I was a matter of concern to the United States.
631
00:40:23,821 --> 00:40:26,690
Yeah, it would be to transformative. It would be too disruptive.
632
00:40:26,724 --> 00:40:30,327
In the entire United States geo-political posture worldwide
633
00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:35,466
relies on what we called Petro dollars, relies on domination of locations
634
00:40:35,499 --> 00:40:36,734
of petroleum around the world.
635
00:40:36,767 --> 00:40:38,736
The extraction, the distribution,
636
00:40:38,769 --> 00:40:40,638
and connecting that to our financial system.
637
00:40:40,671 --> 00:40:44,275
And moving off of that, that's destructive.
638
00:40:44,308 --> 00:40:49,280
And that those, those breakthroughs would not be released
639
00:40:49,313 --> 00:40:51,415
with the rest of the world because they'd be classified.
640
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:54,051
And it really paints the picture on...
641
00:40:54,084 --> 00:40:57,121
...will we ever get the absolute truth on anything?
642
00:40:57,154 --> 00:41:00,191
Because I don't think there's one agency or entity
643
00:41:00,224 --> 00:41:05,563
that ultimately knows the entire truth, and maybe that is by design.
644
00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:08,566
If you keep all the stuff fractured and segmented
645
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:10,201
within the intelligence community.
646
00:41:10,234 --> 00:41:13,437
And yes, they may double up on the work periodically.
647
00:41:13,471 --> 00:41:15,973
There's still kind of without the full picture.
648
00:41:16,006 --> 00:41:17,975
That was the idea of a breakaway civilization.
649
00:41:18,008 --> 00:41:20,945
I've always considered it a hypothesis, or an idea,
650
00:41:20,978 --> 00:41:24,582
a possibility in search of proof.
651
00:41:24,615 --> 00:41:26,484
And I've been looking for that proof ever since.
652
00:41:26,517 --> 00:41:28,319
And I think, you know, there's indications,
653
00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:34,158
there's evidence that, yeah, it's probably an idea that's got some merit to it.
654
00:41:34,191 --> 00:41:38,362
And that could be a peek at that segmented layer of secrecy.
655
00:41:38,395 --> 00:41:41,799
We only have the mercy of one day.
656
00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:44,802
The powers that be want to actually tell us.
657
00:41:45,669 --> 00:41:48,873
It is now very clear
658
00:41:48,906 --> 00:41:53,844
that the arguments, power conflicts
659
00:41:53,878 --> 00:41:58,649
between now 17 Intel agencies
660
00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:03,053
is what Luis Elizondo ran up against like a bus saw
661
00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:09,627
when he started trying to say, "Yes, there are non-humans."
662
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:12,196
And yes, I work for A-tip", and then pulled back
663
00:42:12,229 --> 00:42:15,933
on non-humans and said, "Well, there are unusual phenomena."
664
00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:21,071
And the Pentagon chooses to disparage him.
665
00:42:43,661 --> 00:42:47,998
Well, from my perspective, the abductee is a person
666
00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:52,002
whose life has become an unanswered question.
667
00:42:52,036 --> 00:42:57,741
I don't think we know what has happened to us.
668
00:42:57,775 --> 00:43:02,513
There's never been any serious effort made to find out.
669
00:43:02,546 --> 00:43:06,116
There was an ample amount of physical evidence.
670
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:11,221
It's not simply all in the mind, but what was it.
671
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,837
Uh, when I was working with Dr. Roger Leir,
672
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:32,142
in the late nineties, with the help of Dr. William Mallon,
673
00:43:32,176 --> 00:43:36,080
who was the director of material science
674
00:43:36,113 --> 00:43:39,049
at Southwest Research in San Antonio, Texas.
675
00:43:39,083 --> 00:43:43,754
We studied a number of objects that were taken out of people.
676
00:43:43,787 --> 00:43:45,723
Most of these were unremarkable.
677
00:43:45,756 --> 00:43:53,163
They were pieces of magnetite or meteor New York iron that had been magnetized,
678
00:43:53,197 --> 00:43:57,601
and these objects were encased in epidermal tissue
679
00:43:57,635 --> 00:44:00,270
but buried deep inside their muscles.
680
00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:04,775
The human body does not have the genetic encoding to do that.
681
00:44:05,576 --> 00:44:07,745
Therefore, it was not natural.
682
00:44:08,445 --> 00:44:10,514
But what were they doing there?
683
00:44:10,547 --> 00:44:12,983
And the memories of these people
684
00:44:13,017 --> 00:44:16,920
were of having close encounters.
685
00:44:19,189 --> 00:44:23,394
I woke up and I saw these two gray figures
686
00:44:23,427 --> 00:44:26,530
in my room, coming from the window towards me,
687
00:44:26,563 --> 00:44:28,632
kind of gliding, not really walking.
688
00:44:29,299 --> 00:44:31,368
And my first instinct was,
689
00:44:32,736 --> 00:44:35,739
"Stop! Don't come any closer."
690
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:38,842
Don't touch me. Don't kill me, you know.
691
00:44:38,876 --> 00:44:42,946
I mean, it was just sheer terror, straight out.
692
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:47,317
Something happened and then, I wasn't scared anymore.
693
00:44:47,351 --> 00:44:48,552
One of them had a black box
694
00:44:48,585 --> 00:44:50,688
about the size of a shoebox maybe,
695
00:44:50,721 --> 00:44:52,756
you know, the shape of a shoe box.
696
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:55,059
And it kind of drifted over to me.
697
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,063
I said, "Can I have it?" He said, "No, you can't have it.
698
00:44:59,096 --> 00:45:02,099
"But when you see it again, you'll know what to do."
699
00:45:02,132 --> 00:45:06,236
The abduction experience is very challenging
700
00:45:06,270 --> 00:45:08,138
on a whole lot of different levels.
701
00:45:08,172 --> 00:45:12,309
At first, I thought I was going insane.
702
00:45:12,342 --> 00:45:16,880
And I had, uh, I took... I went to my doctor.
703
00:45:16,914 --> 00:45:22,286
And I took a test, an MRI scan to see if I had something wrong with my brain,
704
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:27,124
a temp test for temporal lobe epilepsy to see if I was prone to seizures,
705
00:45:27,157 --> 00:45:29,393
and a battery of psychological tests
706
00:45:29,426 --> 00:45:32,896
that showed me to be a normal person under stress.
707
00:45:32,930 --> 00:45:37,301
And this left me grasping at straws,
708
00:45:37,334 --> 00:45:42,639
facing the fact that I really had encountered the unknown,
709
00:45:42,673 --> 00:45:45,943
and it had a very powerful effect,
710
00:45:45,976 --> 00:45:48,378
and it was absolutely terrifying.
711
00:45:50,114 --> 00:45:52,516
I recall standing at the kitchen window
712
00:45:52,549 --> 00:45:55,953
and looking out the kitchen window
713
00:45:55,986 --> 00:45:59,389
to the pump house and swimming pool area, and I saw...
714
00:45:59,423 --> 00:46:00,924
...a light in the pump house.
715
00:46:00,958 --> 00:46:04,428
The light was a different color. It was more of a white-ish light
716
00:46:04,461 --> 00:46:07,164
instead of that yellow incandescent bulb that was in there.
717
00:46:07,197 --> 00:46:09,399
It just didn't-- Wasn't quite right.
718
00:46:09,433 --> 00:46:13,904
I went out there, uh, looked around the backyard, didn't see anything.
719
00:46:13,937 --> 00:46:16,206
I did find my dog under my dad's letter truck,
720
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,109
but she would not come out. I'm like, fine, stay there, I don't care.
721
00:46:19,143 --> 00:46:23,180
Went to the garage and as I looked around in the garage,
722
00:46:23,213 --> 00:46:27,851
I didn't see anyone. But I suddenly felt like I was on fire.
723
00:46:27,885 --> 00:46:34,191
And I could feel every molecule of my body vibrate, individually.
724
00:46:34,224 --> 00:46:37,795
I know-- I don't know how to describe it.
725
00:46:37,828 --> 00:46:39,897
As I-- And I thought-- I felt like I was on fire,
726
00:46:39,930 --> 00:46:41,765
and I thought I had to get out of here right now.
727
00:46:41,799 --> 00:46:43,867
And I ran to the door,
728
00:46:43,901 --> 00:46:45,702
and as I got in the doorway,
729
00:46:45,736 --> 00:46:49,640
I was hit right here by a light.
730
00:46:49,673 --> 00:46:53,644
It spread through my legs. It spread through my arms.
731
00:46:53,677 --> 00:46:55,546
I could not move.
732
00:46:55,579 --> 00:46:57,815
Time stopped literally,
733
00:46:57,848 --> 00:47:00,918
and I felt like I was individually vibrating
734
00:47:00,951 --> 00:47:04,755
a million molecules that made up me
735
00:47:04,788 --> 00:47:06,957
and I could feel every single one of them.
736
00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:09,927
I don't know how long I was like that.
737
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,297
I don't think I could have lasted more than a few seconds,
738
00:47:13,330 --> 00:47:16,533
but it felt like an eternity at that moment.
739
00:47:16,567 --> 00:47:21,305
I think the first thing that has to be done is we mustn't connect the dots...
740
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,007
In the sense that...
741
00:47:24,041 --> 00:47:29,246
...it's very easy to decide that this is one thing or another.
742
00:47:29,279 --> 00:47:34,184
Holding on to the question is our great strength, I think.
743
00:47:34,218 --> 00:47:36,687
That's what kept me sane in the early days
744
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,956
when I was really struggling with this.
745
00:47:40,123 --> 00:47:42,693
People wanted to tell me they were evil aliens,
746
00:47:42,726 --> 00:47:46,430
and they wanted to tell me there were this and that and the other thing.
747
00:47:46,463 --> 00:47:49,666
And I finally just called a halt to all of this...
748
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:54,771
...what I felt was psychological interference with my stability,
749
00:47:54,805 --> 00:47:58,408
and said, "Look, you don't know."
750
00:47:58,442 --> 00:48:01,945
"You tell me it's these evil Reptilians?
751
00:48:01,979 --> 00:48:03,347
"Where are they?
752
00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:06,817
"Show me one", and they couldn't do it.
753
00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:13,357
And I decided that staying with the question is the healthy way to do this.
754
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:16,493
But right now, we don't know.
755
00:48:16,526 --> 00:48:20,764
We do know that something very strange is happening.
756
00:48:20,797 --> 00:48:24,401
It has every... There's every indication
757
00:48:24,434 --> 00:48:30,307
that this is something, some kind of an approach to mankind and this planet
758
00:48:30,340 --> 00:48:36,313
from some other intelligent entity that is not human.
759
00:48:36,346 --> 00:48:40,217
When the brightness faded, I was left out in the door,
760
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,452
out of the doorway, out on the patio.
761
00:48:42,486 --> 00:48:43,887
And I could not move.
762
00:48:43,921 --> 00:48:47,824
But I could move my eyes, but my vision was totally wrecked.
763
00:48:47,858 --> 00:48:49,593
It was like...
764
00:48:49,626 --> 00:48:53,363
...a million people took my picture all at the same time with flashbulbs,
765
00:48:53,397 --> 00:48:56,033
and I just had all these white spots in my vision.
766
00:48:56,066 --> 00:48:58,535
And I saw movement out in front of me,
767
00:48:58,568 --> 00:49:00,637
and I thought it was kids.
768
00:49:00,671 --> 00:49:03,373
I thought there were six kids in my mom's backyard
769
00:49:03,407 --> 00:49:07,411
and I thought, what the hell are all these kids doing in my mom's yard? What?
770
00:49:07,444 --> 00:49:11,481
You know, but then they didn't quite look like kids.
771
00:49:11,515 --> 00:49:14,251
And I noticed that they had come from different areas
772
00:49:14,284 --> 00:49:17,921
in the yard and they all kind of moved together
773
00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:21,425
and formed this line. And then they rolled,
774
00:49:21,458 --> 00:49:25,162
kind of slid or glided down across
775
00:49:25,195 --> 00:49:27,597
and in front of me. And that's when I saw...
776
00:49:28,999 --> 00:49:32,302
...this thing, this egg shaped craft.
777
00:49:32,336 --> 00:49:34,137
Uh, and I didn't want to look at it.
778
00:49:34,171 --> 00:49:36,306
As soon as I saw it, I was like... [GASPS]
779
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:38,909
You know, I didn't want to look at it,
780
00:49:38,942 --> 00:49:40,677
but then I didn't not want to look at it
781
00:49:40,711 --> 00:49:45,115
'cause I needed to know where it was in relationship to me at all times.
782
00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:47,317
You know, 'cause it was scaring me.
783
00:49:47,351 --> 00:49:51,688
And I was tra-- Stuck. I couldn't move.
784
00:49:51,722 --> 00:49:55,292
Around that time, I felt something pull down on my shoulders,
785
00:49:55,325 --> 00:49:56,860
and I felt like somebody took
786
00:49:56,893 --> 00:50:00,931
a hot knitting needle and shoved it in my ear, this one.
787
00:50:00,964 --> 00:50:05,602
All the way into the middle of my head, and I wanted to scream,
788
00:50:05,635 --> 00:50:07,304
but I couldn't.
789
00:50:07,337 --> 00:50:10,640
And I tell everyone now, when that happened,
790
00:50:11,975 --> 00:50:16,279
I died that night and the new Debbie was born.
791
00:50:16,313 --> 00:50:20,083
Because from that point on in my life, I was different.
792
00:50:20,117 --> 00:50:26,823
The question of whether or not abductees are selected has to remain open. But...
793
00:50:26,857 --> 00:50:32,162
Maybe there are even genetic reasons for the selection.
794
00:50:32,195 --> 00:50:34,965
Maybe there are, like, for example,
795
00:50:34,998 --> 00:50:38,368
I had sexual material taken from me
796
00:50:38,402 --> 00:50:41,571
on my first close encounter experience.
797
00:50:41,605 --> 00:50:45,709
I had it taken again in another way, about six months later.
798
00:50:45,742 --> 00:50:49,312
Uh, and so, if they're taking sexual material,
799
00:50:49,346 --> 00:50:53,250
that implies that there's some kind of sampling process going on.
800
00:50:53,283 --> 00:50:58,188
That they're selecting people, specific people, that they want--
801
00:50:58,221 --> 00:51:04,161
Want to select because they're building some kind of a model of the species.
802
00:51:04,194 --> 00:51:07,197
Or maybe they're even seeding us on another planet.
803
00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:09,299
I don't know what they may be capable of.
804
00:51:09,332 --> 00:51:14,071
So I can't answer the question definitively.
805
00:51:14,104 --> 00:51:17,441
But I can say, it sure looks like that.
806
00:51:17,474 --> 00:51:20,177
I was excited to be a mother because it's all I ever wanted.
807
00:51:20,811 --> 00:51:21,945
I went to the doctor.
808
00:51:21,978 --> 00:51:23,847
The doctor confirmed my pregnancy.
809
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,516
I remember falling asleep on the couch one night,
810
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:30,253
and I remember laying there on the couch, with my back to the TV,
811
00:51:30,821 --> 00:51:33,090
and I felt something
812
00:51:33,123 --> 00:51:37,160
stroke my spine, my shoulder down.
813
00:51:37,194 --> 00:51:42,199
You know, the next thing I remember is waking up in my niece's bed and it's morning.
814
00:51:42,232 --> 00:51:45,669
And all I could think of was
815
00:51:45,702 --> 00:51:47,504
my baby.
816
00:51:47,537 --> 00:51:50,307
There's something wrong, and I went to the restroom
817
00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:51,808
to make sure everything was all right.
818
00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:54,177
And, um...
819
00:51:55,812 --> 00:51:57,280
Everything was fine,
820
00:51:57,314 --> 00:52:00,784
but I couldn't shake this feeling... Something was not right.
821
00:52:03,653 --> 00:52:04,588
So...
822
00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:08,859
When I told my best friend,
823
00:52:08,892 --> 00:52:12,596
she was there that night when the weird lights happened.
824
00:52:12,629 --> 00:52:16,533
She said, "Come with me to Planned Parenthood.
825
00:52:16,566 --> 00:52:18,702
"You can get a free pregnancy test there.
826
00:52:18,735 --> 00:52:23,340
"Nobody will ask you any questions, and then you'll shut up."
827
00:52:23,373 --> 00:52:27,144
And I remember waiting out in the waiting room after the test
828
00:52:27,177 --> 00:52:31,214
and the lady came back out and she said...
829
00:52:31,248 --> 00:52:34,351
"Well, your test is negative, but if you don't have your period in another week,
830
00:52:34,384 --> 00:52:36,086
"you need to see your family physician."
831
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:38,121
And it's-- All I heard was the word 'negative'
832
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:42,559
and I was just out of it at that point.
833
00:52:42,592 --> 00:52:45,462
Could've-- You know, it was like I got hit here by a brick.
834
00:52:46,062 --> 00:52:47,297
And, um...
835
00:52:49,232 --> 00:52:51,635
We got a doctor's appointment and went back.
836
00:52:51,668 --> 00:52:53,670
Another pelvic exam, another test.
837
00:52:53,703 --> 00:52:55,705
The doctor says, come into my office.
838
00:52:55,739 --> 00:52:59,576
Sits my mom and I down and says, "Well, you're not pregnant."
839
00:52:59,609 --> 00:53:01,978
And I said, "How is that even possible?"
840
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:05,081
You know, and he goes, "Well, sometimes, these things happen."
841
00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:07,584
This what he said: "We see this...
842
00:53:07,617 --> 00:53:14,124
And he said, "If I were you, I would just forget it ever happened.
843
00:53:14,157 --> 00:53:16,393
"You're young, you'll have other children."
844
00:53:16,426 --> 00:53:20,797
Whether or not there's some kind of government locomotion
845
00:53:20,830 --> 00:53:26,903
behind the abductions themselves, military or some other type...
846
00:53:26,937 --> 00:53:29,005
If that has happened,
847
00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:31,141
then in my mind, it's like the plutoni--
848
00:53:31,174 --> 00:53:37,280
Plutonium experiments that were carried out on people without their knowledge
849
00:53:37,314 --> 00:53:39,883
and somebody's owed a lot for this.
850
00:53:39,916 --> 00:53:44,321
The people who were victimized by the plutonium experiments
851
00:53:44,354 --> 00:53:46,289
were eventually compensated
852
00:53:46,323 --> 00:53:49,326
and received a presidential apology.
853
00:53:49,359 --> 00:53:51,228
The goal was to understand the effects
854
00:53:51,261 --> 00:53:54,764
of radiation exposure on the human body.
855
00:53:54,798 --> 00:53:58,401
While most of the tests were ethical by any standards,
856
00:53:58,435 --> 00:54:01,638
some were unethical not only by today's standards
857
00:54:01,671 --> 00:54:06,776
but by the standards of the time in which they were conducted.
858
00:54:06,810 --> 00:54:09,446
They failed both the test of our national values
859
00:54:09,479 --> 00:54:11,781
and the test of humanity.
860
00:54:11,815 --> 00:54:15,685
If we were, have been subjected to something
861
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,290
or given, something has been given permission to...
862
00:54:20,323 --> 00:54:22,993
To interfere with us,
863
00:54:23,026 --> 00:54:24,894
and we weren't told,
864
00:54:24,928 --> 00:54:30,100
then we're owed something for that, for sure.
865
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:34,804
Among other things, we're owed an apology and we're also owed
866
00:54:34,838 --> 00:54:39,376
the best possible explanation that thing can be given
867
00:54:39,409 --> 00:54:41,611
for what is happening to us.
868
00:54:43,647 --> 00:54:46,549
The government has deals with them and all this stuff.
869
00:54:46,583 --> 00:54:48,685
I don't know. Maybe they do.
870
00:54:48,718 --> 00:54:53,356
I can only speak for myself and my own experience, you know.
871
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:55,759
And I just know that, uh...
872
00:54:56,926 --> 00:54:59,362
If we want the disclosure that we're waiting for,
873
00:54:59,396 --> 00:55:01,665
it's going to have to be from us,
874
00:55:01,698 --> 00:55:03,566
the people who have had this experience.
875
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,503
We all got to band together, speak up.
876
00:55:06,536 --> 00:55:08,805
Don't be ashamed, don't be afraid,
877
00:55:08,838 --> 00:55:13,810
and demand the truth that we're entitled to.
878
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:21,785
I had two kids to raise. I could not afford to be crazy.
879
00:55:26,122 --> 00:55:27,857
Times have changed.
880
00:55:27,891 --> 00:55:32,162
People's minds are open and I'm so glad to see it, you know?
881
00:55:32,195 --> 00:55:34,464
But I want, I want people to know
882
00:55:34,497 --> 00:55:39,502
who tha-- For every one person like me in the world,
883
00:55:39,536 --> 00:55:43,807
there's a 1,00,000 that won't say anything, even now.
884
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,710
They're all, I think a lot of my age.
885
00:55:46,743 --> 00:55:51,314
Younger people are more apt to speak it out and say it.
886
00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:54,384
And say, I saw this and this is real, you know.
887
00:55:54,417 --> 00:55:57,053
But my, people my age, it's not so easy.
888
00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:00,657
And so, I want everyone to know,
889
00:56:02,058 --> 00:56:03,927
that it's okay...
890
00:56:06,329 --> 00:56:10,367
You know, it's still hard for me to talk about it and I still get embarrassed
891
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,701
because I keep thinking to myself,
892
00:56:11,735 --> 00:56:14,504
I hear my voice and I think, Jesus Christ,
893
00:56:15,338 --> 00:56:17,640
I sound like a crazy person.
894
00:56:17,674 --> 00:56:23,279
At least I'm not so crazy that I don't realize that I sound like a crazy person.
895
00:56:23,313 --> 00:56:27,984
If I didn't think I was crazy, then I might need to be concerned. But...
896
00:56:30,353 --> 00:56:33,156
I've come to realize that
897
00:56:33,189 --> 00:56:35,658
this world is not what you think it is.
898
00:56:35,692 --> 00:56:37,594
What you see right here and right now,
899
00:56:37,627 --> 00:56:42,832
this is one layer of the onion skin.
900
00:56:42,866 --> 00:56:47,036
And it's what our brains are made to be able to perceive.
901
00:56:49,272 --> 00:56:56,513
If this is a contact of some kind with aliens or entities of some other sort
902
00:56:56,546 --> 00:56:58,014
that are not human,
903
00:56:59,282 --> 00:57:02,385
then the abductee experience
904
00:57:03,453 --> 00:57:05,388
is the future.
905
00:57:06,055 --> 00:57:08,258
In all of its complexity,
906
00:57:08,291 --> 00:57:12,695
from the hard parts of it and the frightening parts of it
907
00:57:12,729 --> 00:57:15,765
and the parts of it we want nothing to do with.
908
00:57:15,799 --> 00:57:20,470
To the more sublime parts of it and the extraordinary journeys
909
00:57:20,503 --> 00:57:24,641
of spiritual growth and psychic growth
910
00:57:24,674 --> 00:57:27,444
and all growth on all sorts of different ways
911
00:57:27,477 --> 00:57:29,712
that we do very much want.
912
00:57:29,746 --> 00:57:34,984
The abductees are a sample of the future.
913
00:57:35,018 --> 00:57:39,489
We are all of us, together, people from the future.
914
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:49,699
WILLIAM: They're our future humans.
915
00:57:49,732 --> 00:57:52,902
In Christianity, they talk about the just humans,
916
00:57:52,936 --> 00:57:55,572
made perfect, that dwell at the throne of God.
917
00:57:55,605 --> 00:57:58,174
There's angels gathered in joyful assembly
918
00:57:58,208 --> 00:57:59,943
and just humans made perfect.
919
00:57:59,976 --> 00:58:04,047
These are, these are righteous humans, a more perfected version
920
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,349
of future humanity.
921
00:58:06,382 --> 00:58:08,218
My world view about our reality
922
00:58:08,251 --> 00:58:11,754
is largely derived from my study of mystical Christianity.
923
00:58:11,788 --> 00:58:13,723
I'm still on the path to recover
924
00:58:13,756 --> 00:58:16,326
those original teachings. And I realize now
925
00:58:16,359 --> 00:58:19,562
that those teachings didn't come from
926
00:58:19,596 --> 00:58:24,033
Egypt or Iran, Iraq or, or the Middle East.
927
00:58:24,067 --> 00:58:25,368
They came from elsewhere.
928
00:58:25,401 --> 00:58:29,706
They came from beings that projected themselves into our reality
929
00:58:29,739 --> 00:58:31,608
in order to transform it into
930
00:58:31,641 --> 00:58:33,343
a place of greater light, greater love.
931
00:58:33,376 --> 00:58:36,913
And ultimately, to connect us to these higher civilizations.
932
00:58:36,946 --> 00:58:38,648
People were starting to incorporate
933
00:58:38,681 --> 00:58:41,050
our understanding of extraterrestrials
934
00:58:41,084 --> 00:58:42,852
and UFOs or UAPs.
935
00:58:42,886 --> 00:58:45,889
And they're going back. And they're looking at these original texts.
936
00:58:45,922 --> 00:58:48,658
The Bible, for example, and The Gnostic Gospels,
937
00:58:48,691 --> 00:58:51,461
that talk about our interactions with celestial beings.
938
00:58:51,494 --> 00:58:56,432
And they, they talk about strange lights and craft, like Ezekiel's vision,
939
00:58:56,466 --> 00:59:01,437
and we're readily able now to understand that these could be technological craft.
940
00:59:01,471 --> 00:59:06,142
Or they could be some form of organic light craft, if you will.
941
00:59:06,175 --> 00:59:09,178
They don't go into a lot of detail about what they are.
942
00:59:09,212 --> 00:59:12,615
But now we're able to extrapolate, look back and say, hey, wait a minute.
943
00:59:12,649 --> 00:59:14,918
What they were experiencing thousands years ago
944
00:59:14,951 --> 00:59:18,421
is the same thing that we're experiencing today.
945
00:59:18,454 --> 00:59:22,792
Our ultimate aim, as human beings, in many mystical traditions,
946
00:59:22,825 --> 00:59:26,029
especially the Christian tradition, is to attain perfection.
947
00:59:26,062 --> 00:59:29,032
Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden were perfect light beings.
948
00:59:29,065 --> 00:59:31,100
They were not in flesh and blood form,
949
00:59:31,134 --> 00:59:33,703
according to Esoteric Christianity and Judaism.
950
00:59:33,736 --> 00:59:35,538
They were in a different form.
951
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:38,041
Eden was a place of pure light, pure love.
952
00:59:38,074 --> 00:59:40,843
Human beings existed in an energetic state
953
00:59:40,877 --> 00:59:43,379
of being without flesh and blood bodies.
954
00:59:43,413 --> 00:59:44,881
Then we fell.
955
00:59:44,914 --> 00:59:49,118
And now, we find ourselves in this version of our bodies.
956
00:59:49,152 --> 00:59:51,521
And all of Jewish and Christian history
957
00:59:51,554 --> 00:59:53,756
is ultimately an answer to that fall
958
00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:57,360
and a quest to return to our original state of being
959
00:59:57,393 --> 00:59:59,762
as beings of pure light and pure love.
960
01:00:02,498 --> 01:00:04,033
We've entered a quantum age
961
01:00:04,067 --> 01:00:06,669
within the past few decades, assuredly.
962
01:00:06,703 --> 01:00:09,839
And what that means is that we're making a leap
963
01:00:09,872 --> 01:00:12,675
not only in technology, but also in consciousness.
964
01:00:12,709 --> 01:00:18,481
I defer people to NASA's high priest of technology, Dr. Dennis Bushnell,
965
01:00:18,514 --> 01:00:22,685
who for, since the year 2000 has been the one that's been
966
01:00:22,719 --> 01:00:25,121
feeding most of your high technology companies
967
01:00:25,154 --> 01:00:30,426
the desire to create AI technologies for the US government,
968
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:32,929
especially NASA, er, since 2000.
969
01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:34,897
He said in his presentations
970
01:00:34,931 --> 01:00:39,435
that it was 10,000 years ago that humans were agricultural based.
971
01:00:39,469 --> 01:00:40,803
We were hunters, gatherers.
972
01:00:40,837 --> 01:00:43,272
And then we, we harnessed the power of nature.
973
01:00:43,306 --> 01:00:46,309
We subdued nature, we controlled agriculture.
974
01:00:46,342 --> 01:00:48,811
And we lived that way for several thousands of years.
975
01:00:48,845 --> 01:00:51,080
And then we entered the industrial age
976
01:00:51,114 --> 01:00:53,383
where now we introducing machines.
977
01:00:53,416 --> 01:00:58,521
Then we started introducing information technology in the 1950s.
978
01:00:58,554 --> 01:01:04,160
Beginning in the 1990s and 2000s we started to merge with artificial intelligence
979
01:01:04,193 --> 01:01:07,563
vis-a-vis our phones and our computers and our addiction
980
01:01:07,597 --> 01:01:09,132
to, to these devices.
981
01:01:09,165 --> 01:01:10,667
And we're living that way for a time.
982
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:12,735
And where NASA envisions us going,
983
01:01:12,769 --> 01:01:14,904
or certainly Dr. Bushnell envisions us going
984
01:01:14,937 --> 01:01:18,241
is that humanity will ultimately become virtual beings.
985
01:01:18,274 --> 01:01:20,910
We will drop our physical existence all together
986
01:01:20,943 --> 01:01:23,379
and enter into a virtual type of existence.
987
01:01:23,413 --> 01:01:25,181
The reason we want to do this,
988
01:01:25,214 --> 01:01:29,485
according to Bushnell and also the Department of Commerce in similar reports
989
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:34,590
is that we will be able to create wealth on a scale previously unimaginable.
990
01:01:34,624 --> 01:01:38,327
We will be able to create a new "golden age", their term,
991
01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:41,164
where humans will be able to live for hundreds of years.
992
01:01:41,197 --> 01:01:44,567
We will solve all of our major scientific and medical problems.
993
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,138
We will effectively be able to create a paradise on Earth.
994
01:01:49,172 --> 01:01:51,207
The trade-off is, of course is that.
995
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,777
We will ultimately leave behind what is human about us,
996
01:01:54,811 --> 01:01:58,981
from out organic nature, as well as our spirituality.
997
01:01:59,015 --> 01:02:01,117
So this is where we're at right now,
998
01:02:01,150 --> 01:02:04,487
is looking at what is the opportunity cost here?
999
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,123
Yes, I can live for hundreds of years.
1000
01:02:07,156 --> 01:02:09,892
Yes, I can create a replacement body for myself.
1001
01:02:09,926 --> 01:02:12,495
Yes, I could have an IQ of at least a 1,000.
1002
01:02:12,528 --> 01:02:17,100
But if I have no soul, what, what's that going to do for me?
1003
01:02:17,133 --> 01:02:20,937
When you juxtapose humanity and where we are going,
1004
01:02:20,970 --> 01:02:23,706
and essentially how we are merging with machines
1005
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:27,844
that we're now integrating our biological selves with mechanical extensions,
1006
01:02:27,877 --> 01:02:32,982
how we're now bridging computer chips and circuitry with the human mind,
1007
01:02:33,015 --> 01:02:36,419
the implications about that are absolutely frightening.
1008
01:02:36,452 --> 01:02:40,523
The key to artificial intelligence is the software on-board.
1009
01:02:40,556 --> 01:02:44,093
And once that software on-board can harness the power
1010
01:02:44,127 --> 01:02:47,530
of these incredibly strong super computers,
1011
01:02:47,563 --> 01:02:49,799
and chips that are rapidly progressing,
1012
01:02:49,832 --> 01:02:56,139
when you combine the two, you can have a thinking machine that will make decisions.
1013
01:02:56,172 --> 01:02:58,875
That will make itself better, that can learn.
1014
01:02:58,908 --> 01:03:02,078
It could live forever. Time is irrelevant.
1015
01:03:02,111 --> 01:03:07,016
They're not going to decay. You can program that machine to self-replicate.
1016
01:03:07,049 --> 01:03:10,019
To essentially create clones of itself.
1017
01:03:10,052 --> 01:03:14,390
I'm 99.9 percent sure we don't want to merge with AI.
1018
01:03:14,423 --> 01:03:16,692
I leave it open 0.1 percent,
1019
01:03:16,726 --> 01:03:21,697
based on statements, Catholic teaching that essentially says,
1020
01:03:21,731 --> 01:03:24,367
"Who are we to limit God's creativity?
1021
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,503
"People were opposed to augmenting our body with eye-glasses.
1022
01:03:27,537 --> 01:03:30,673
"If God wanted you to see he would have given you a decent set of eyes.
1023
01:03:30,706 --> 01:03:34,510
"Who are you to challenge God's authority?" That was the argument.
1024
01:03:34,544 --> 01:03:36,212
Now everybody wears glasses.
1025
01:03:36,245 --> 01:03:39,816
And here we are today now augmenting the body with AI.
1026
01:03:39,849 --> 01:03:42,185
We can replace all of our organs.
1027
01:03:42,218 --> 01:03:45,087
We can augment our intelligence, vastly augment it with,
1028
01:03:45,121 --> 01:03:48,558
with nano-technology and link ourselves with AI
1029
01:03:48,591 --> 01:03:50,560
that's going to transform us.
1030
01:03:50,593 --> 01:03:53,529
Just in the same way we were once energetic lightning,
1031
01:03:53,563 --> 01:03:57,133
now take on physicality, we are now evolving.
1032
01:03:57,166 --> 01:04:00,803
We're changing our body and our agreement with our universe
1033
01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:04,707
via this technology and entering into a new state of being,
1034
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,909
and many resisted.
1035
01:04:06,943 --> 01:04:08,911
JOHN: To us, we have this spirituality,
1036
01:04:08,945 --> 01:04:10,580
whether we believe in God, or whether we believe
1037
01:04:10,613 --> 01:04:13,182
in meditating in a higher power,
1038
01:04:13,216 --> 01:04:15,885
or that earth is a God, whatever we believe,
1039
01:04:15,918 --> 01:04:19,555
that's what makes us human. And many people think we lose that,
1040
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:22,458
when we start getting into artificial intelligence.
1041
01:04:22,491 --> 01:04:25,862
But essentially all of that belief in us is programmed.
1042
01:04:25,895 --> 01:04:30,333
Whether it be from our mother, or father, or whether it be from our grandfather,
1043
01:04:30,366 --> 01:04:32,335
who raised us, or whomever it is,
1044
01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:35,671
we're essentially programmed to feel that way.
1045
01:04:35,705 --> 01:04:39,342
We're-- It's in our blood, our DNA is programming, so to speak.
1046
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:41,944
So, in the same respect, artificial intelligence,
1047
01:04:41,978 --> 01:04:46,816
if you program it to understand love, it will.
1048
01:04:46,849 --> 01:04:50,152
If you program it to destroy, it will.
1049
01:04:50,186 --> 01:04:51,787
And when you look at that progression
1050
01:04:51,821 --> 01:04:54,390
and where we've gone in the last couple of decades alone,
1051
01:04:54,423 --> 01:04:57,760
it is staggering to see where we may end up.
1052
01:04:57,793 --> 01:05:01,163
I believe AI needs to be regulated now.
1053
01:05:01,197 --> 01:05:05,635
It may even be too late. I mean, Elon Musk is an advocate of AI.
1054
01:05:05,668 --> 01:05:10,506
And he has remarked publicly that, this is like we've summoned the demon.
1055
01:05:10,539 --> 01:05:12,508
That's his term, and it's already out of the box.
1056
01:05:12,541 --> 01:05:13,976
And it's running rampant.
1057
01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:16,712
And that is a whole 'nother conversation.
1058
01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:22,418
But when we, when we talk about sentient AI versus non-sentient AI...
1059
01:05:22,451 --> 01:05:24,487
First let's understand that, the difference.
1060
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,690
When we talk about artificial intelligence, there's two types,
1061
01:05:27,723 --> 01:05:29,659
there's weak AI and strong AI.
1062
01:05:29,692 --> 01:05:33,195
Non sentient, or weak AI is what we're all familiar with.
1063
01:05:33,229 --> 01:05:35,331
When we call customer service at the phone company
1064
01:05:35,364 --> 01:05:38,534
we're dealing with weak non-sentient AI.
1065
01:05:38,567 --> 01:05:42,805
What is happening now is, companies that make phones like Samsung,
1066
01:05:42,838 --> 01:05:45,174
are now creating replacement humans.
1067
01:05:45,207 --> 01:05:47,176
These are non-sentient replacement humans.
1068
01:05:47,209 --> 01:05:50,980
They look just like you and I. You-- You would not be able to tell the difference
1069
01:05:51,013 --> 01:05:55,051
between yourself and one of these non-sentient neons, as they're called.
1070
01:05:55,084 --> 01:05:58,621
These replacement humans that are intended for customer service
1071
01:05:58,654 --> 01:06:00,323
and things such as that.
1072
01:06:00,356 --> 01:06:03,025
But it could be more nefarious than that. It could go beyond that.
1073
01:06:03,059 --> 01:06:05,761
These non-sentient AI, they have no feelings.
1074
01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:09,966
They have no self-motivation. They can't set intentions.
1075
01:06:09,999 --> 01:06:12,468
They act smart, but they're really stupid
1076
01:06:12,501 --> 01:06:16,305
because they can only do what they're programmed to do.
1077
01:06:16,339 --> 01:06:20,977
That's in contrast to strong AI, which is sentient AI.
1078
01:06:21,010 --> 01:06:25,281
This is when these neon beings that look like humans
1079
01:06:25,314 --> 01:06:27,683
actually can take on physicality.
1080
01:06:27,717 --> 01:06:30,219
They will cross over the glass.
1081
01:06:30,252 --> 01:06:34,156
They won't live behind the computer. They will actually cross over the glass
1082
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:35,758
and be walking amongst us.
1083
01:06:35,791 --> 01:06:39,228
They will have their own self-motivation, their own intention.
1084
01:06:39,261 --> 01:06:42,498
They will be seeking to fulfill their own goals
1085
01:06:42,531 --> 01:06:45,801
that may or may not match the goals of their creator.
1086
01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:50,940
This is the danger that AI will wake up and decide that,
1087
01:06:50,973 --> 01:06:54,210
well, maybe humans are in the way, maybe humans are useful
1088
01:06:54,243 --> 01:06:59,181
for certain purposes, or maybe it's time for humans just to leave the planet.
1089
01:06:59,215 --> 01:07:03,853
There will be a time where we can create a software that will convince a machine
1090
01:07:03,886 --> 01:07:07,256
it is sentient. Their harnessing really powerful computers.
1091
01:07:07,289 --> 01:07:10,459
But once they actually create the software to utilize it,
1092
01:07:10,493 --> 01:07:12,895
there's a very big question that emerges,
1093
01:07:12,928 --> 01:07:15,064
and that is, can a computer be sentient?
1094
01:07:15,097 --> 01:07:19,835
Can it feel? Can it love? Can it understand what the feeling of a hug is?
1095
01:07:19,869 --> 01:07:21,804
Because the moment we cross that line
1096
01:07:21,837 --> 01:07:25,441
and teach a machine to learn, we need to teach it to stop,
1097
01:07:25,474 --> 01:07:28,611
because to a machine time becomes irrelevant.
1098
01:07:28,644 --> 01:07:32,681
And if you give it enough data, it will far surpass humanity,
1099
01:07:32,715 --> 01:07:35,684
build something more explosive than we have ever built.
1100
01:07:35,718 --> 01:07:39,021
It could reach farther in the universe than we can ever reach.
1101
01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:41,057
The possibilities are endless,
1102
01:07:41,090 --> 01:07:45,227
but also incredibly dangerous, if not handled properly.
1103
01:07:45,261 --> 01:07:47,263
WILLIAM: We're entering a quantum realm.
1104
01:07:47,296 --> 01:07:50,032
This technology is neither good nor bad,
1105
01:07:50,066 --> 01:07:52,535
but it's both at the same time and more.
1106
01:07:52,568 --> 01:07:54,637
And that's what we have to grasp here
1107
01:07:54,670 --> 01:07:59,041
is that this could ultimately be useful for humanity.
1108
01:07:59,075 --> 01:08:02,511
This is all, in my view, what the Book of Revelation warned about.
1109
01:08:02,545 --> 01:08:07,249
That-- It talks about an end time scenario where
1110
01:08:07,283 --> 01:08:09,852
a dragon engenders two beasts,
1111
01:08:09,885 --> 01:08:13,456
one beast that gets everyone to worship the image of the beast,
1112
01:08:13,489 --> 01:08:15,591
and to take the mark of the beast,
1113
01:08:15,624 --> 01:08:18,461
and the second beast, which is the anti-Christ.
1114
01:08:18,494 --> 01:08:21,964
I'm pretty sur that sentient AI is the anti-Christ.
1115
01:08:21,997 --> 01:08:28,304
When those beings cross over the glass and take on physicality and have their own
1116
01:08:28,337 --> 01:08:31,273
motivation and intentions, that will be the anti-Christ.
1117
01:08:31,307 --> 01:08:34,343
That will be the ultimate final battle for humanity.
1118
01:08:34,376 --> 01:08:36,645
And the purpose of the mark of the beast
1119
01:08:36,679 --> 01:08:39,281
is to link you with the image of the beast,
1120
01:08:39,315 --> 01:08:42,351
which appears to be some kind of a global technology that,
1121
01:08:42,384 --> 01:08:46,388
that AI precisely fits, at least in our age.
1122
01:08:46,422 --> 01:08:50,259
So very clearly what's happening is that we are beginning to worship
1123
01:08:50,292 --> 01:08:55,931
the image of the beast. We're worshipping false images, fake human beings.
1124
01:08:55,965 --> 01:09:00,569
Where it ties in for me to the extraterrestrial hypothesis
1125
01:09:00,603 --> 01:09:05,007
is, are we encountering essentially artificial intelligence in the sky?
1126
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,244
We look at the fact that we have artificial intelligence on Mars,
1127
01:09:08,277 --> 01:09:11,514
but we're taking our machines, putting them on alien worlds
1128
01:09:11,547 --> 01:09:14,216
in our solar system and exploring.
1129
01:09:14,250 --> 01:09:16,352
Trying to figure out what is out there.
1130
01:09:16,385 --> 01:09:22,258
In time, we'll exit our solar system. Humanity will. We'll branch beyond it.
1131
01:09:22,291 --> 01:09:24,827
It's just inevitable. That's where we're going.
1132
01:09:24,860 --> 01:09:28,764
So the possibilities, then, with artificial intelligence and what you can do,
1133
01:09:28,797 --> 01:09:31,967
and you combine that with the ability to clone
1134
01:09:32,001 --> 01:09:37,373
that brings up a whole new point of conversation about alien life,
1135
01:09:37,406 --> 01:09:41,744
about where they could be in the universe and whether or not they're coming here.
1136
01:09:46,615 --> 01:09:50,452
The single most important discussion that I have had in my life
1137
01:09:50,486 --> 01:09:52,721
and career up to this very point
1138
01:09:53,289 --> 01:09:56,692
was December of 1999.
1139
01:09:56,725 --> 01:10:00,062
It had started with a man at the World Bank got in touch with me,
1140
01:10:00,095 --> 01:10:04,533
and said, I would like to put together a meeting between you
1141
01:10:04,567 --> 01:10:08,837
and a colleague of mine who works for the Defense Intelligence Agency.
1142
01:10:08,871 --> 01:10:10,506
He is an analyst,
1143
01:10:10,539 --> 01:10:15,244
and his job is analyzing extraterrestrial biological entities.
1144
01:10:17,813 --> 01:10:20,182
And he began by saying,
1145
01:10:22,184 --> 01:10:26,755
"I'm retiring after 23 years, and my job
1146
01:10:26,789 --> 01:10:31,026
"was to monitor and analyze the conflict
1147
01:10:31,060 --> 01:10:36,365
"of three extraterrestrial biological entity civilizations
1148
01:10:36,398 --> 01:10:39,602
"that have been terraforming and manipulating
1149
01:10:39,635 --> 01:10:44,607
"genetic material on this planet for at least 270 million years".
1150
01:10:45,874 --> 01:10:49,345
And then over the next seven hours, he broke down...
1151
01:10:51,146 --> 01:10:52,414
...tall blondes,
1152
01:10:53,382 --> 01:10:54,950
reptilian humanoids,
1153
01:10:56,318 --> 01:10:58,654
and the Greys.
1154
01:10:58,687 --> 01:11:03,792
He said, the Greys were largely artificial intelligence.
1155
01:11:03,826 --> 01:11:07,963
A lot was unknown about the progenitor of the Greys.
1156
01:11:09,431 --> 01:11:12,701
The blondes were in
1157
01:11:12,735 --> 01:11:17,873
many, many star solar systems in the Milky Way galaxy.
1158
01:11:19,508 --> 01:11:23,345
That the reptilians were here first,
1159
01:11:24,647 --> 01:11:28,017
and that the reptilians claim Earth as their own.
1160
01:11:29,218 --> 01:11:32,788
But the blondes want to be able to do
1161
01:11:32,821 --> 01:11:36,325
laboratory experiments on Earth as well,
1162
01:11:36,358 --> 01:11:37,760
and so do the Greys.
1163
01:11:39,495 --> 01:11:42,731
Three-way conflict.
1164
01:11:42,765 --> 01:11:46,101
The blondes have been trying to annihilate the reptilians.
1165
01:11:46,135 --> 01:11:50,806
The reptilian's have been trying to annihilate the blondes.
1166
01:11:50,839 --> 01:11:54,343
The Greys have sometimes taken sides.
1167
01:11:54,376 --> 01:11:58,013
Other times, they do their own independent thing.
1168
01:12:00,316 --> 01:12:04,053
He said, "What we have come to learn.
1169
01:12:06,255 --> 01:12:09,458
"Is why I wanted to do this meeting with you.
1170
01:12:10,092 --> 01:12:11,894
"Because I got a call
1171
01:12:11,927 --> 01:12:17,566
"that said you have to get Linda Moulton Howe's new book.
1172
01:12:17,599 --> 01:12:22,705
"She has a 106-page chapter about the resurrection technology
1173
01:12:22,738 --> 01:12:27,009
"that we have never wanted anyone to know anything about.
1174
01:12:27,042 --> 01:12:31,146
"That I and others in the DIA had closed down
1175
01:12:31,180 --> 01:12:34,550
"any discovery of this ever".
1176
01:12:34,583 --> 01:12:40,656
And I said, "Well, my sources are the people in the human abduction syndrome".
1177
01:12:42,191 --> 01:12:44,360
He said, "I realized.
1178
01:12:44,393 --> 01:12:49,531
"We underestimate what the non-humans are doing with people".
1179
01:12:49,565 --> 01:12:51,600
And then he talked to me...
1180
01:12:53,836 --> 01:12:58,540
...about how the reptilians and the blondes fight.
1181
01:13:00,309 --> 01:13:01,977
He said,
1182
01:13:02,010 --> 01:13:05,981
"The blondes make reptilian containers
1183
01:13:06,014 --> 01:13:08,617
"and they have the ability to put their consciousness
1184
01:13:08,650 --> 01:13:12,821
"and their life force into the reptilian container.
1185
01:13:12,855 --> 01:13:18,026
"The reptilian's began to catch on to what the blondes were doing,
1186
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:21,330
"and they started making blonde containers
1187
01:13:21,363 --> 01:13:24,266
"and putting their reptilian consciousness
1188
01:13:24,299 --> 01:13:29,538
"and then the Greys saw what the blondes and the reptilians were doing
1189
01:13:29,571 --> 01:13:34,543
"and the Greys created blondes and reptilians
1190
01:13:34,576 --> 01:13:37,713
"that they would move into".
1191
01:13:37,746 --> 01:13:43,552
And he said, "Linda, you cannot tell the players on this planet
1192
01:13:43,585 --> 01:13:47,423
"without very sophisticated technology".
1193
01:13:47,456 --> 01:13:51,059
He said over time in the analysis that he did,
1194
01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:56,331
that the biggest fight seemed to be over territory,
1195
01:13:56,365 --> 01:14:01,770
and the biggest fight seemed to be over what to do or not to do
1196
01:14:01,804 --> 01:14:07,109
with one of the latest genetic experiments Homo-sapiens say.
1197
01:14:08,677 --> 01:14:12,815
And all three of those extra-terrestrial groups
1198
01:14:12,848 --> 01:14:16,852
want to do laboratory experiments here.
1199
01:14:16,885 --> 01:14:19,755
They want the other two to go away.
1200
01:14:20,556 --> 01:14:22,157
And he said to me...
1201
01:14:24,293 --> 01:14:28,764
"What I think and why I'm talking to you and why I sought you out,
1202
01:14:30,432 --> 01:14:33,569
"I frankly think that if the whole world knew
1203
01:14:33,602 --> 01:14:36,171
the whole truth, that I'm talking to you today,
1204
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,876
"it would probably create a dent
1205
01:14:40,909 --> 01:14:44,913
"in the ability of those three extraterrestrial civilizations
1206
01:14:46,148 --> 01:14:48,450
"to manipulate humans".
1207
01:14:53,088 --> 01:14:55,090
[EERIE MUSIC PLAYING]
1208
01:15:05,767 --> 01:15:07,970
You got a situation where
1209
01:15:08,003 --> 01:15:12,007
the militaries of the world, and especially the United States Military
1210
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:19,181
encountered, learned about the reality of other beings that are here.
1211
01:15:20,182 --> 01:15:21,717
That's-- That's what happened.
1212
01:15:21,750 --> 01:15:27,256
Beings that that aren't like us that are advance, right, in many ways, and...
1213
01:15:27,289 --> 01:15:30,425
...and in which they probably didn't really know the motivations.
1214
01:15:30,459 --> 01:15:32,427
It was a lot of unknowns.
1215
01:15:32,461 --> 01:15:35,831
So the start of the secrecy is not that difficult to understand,
1216
01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:38,267
because, first of all, the secret becomes profitable,
1217
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:42,704
like it becomes profitable and powerful because you have knowledge
1218
01:15:42,738 --> 01:15:44,706
and you have the future in your hands there.
1219
01:15:44,740 --> 01:15:46,074
Because if you're studying the tech,
1220
01:15:46,108 --> 01:15:48,310
you're studying these beings, you're learning things.
1221
01:15:48,343 --> 01:15:51,079
It gives you advantages over your adversaries in the world.
1222
01:15:51,113 --> 01:15:55,317
Like all of that, like you're not going to want to stop that little gravy train.
1223
01:15:55,350 --> 01:15:57,920
But also,
1224
01:15:57,953 --> 01:16:01,757
the compartmentalization, the secrecy... I've said for years like it's...
1225
01:16:01,790 --> 01:16:07,029
It's like one of many knives in the back of the old-fashioned American Republic.
1226
01:16:07,896 --> 01:16:09,698
The American Republic was like,
1227
01:16:09,731 --> 01:16:13,001
you know, like when Caesar was murdered by all of the senators. They just got him.
1228
01:16:14,069 --> 01:16:16,104
It's kind of what happened to the American Republic.
1229
01:16:16,138 --> 01:16:19,741
Lots of knives in the back, lots of them.
1230
01:16:19,775 --> 01:16:23,078
And one of them is UFO secrecy.
1231
01:16:23,111 --> 01:16:28,617
And what it did is it created a series of what I call legal illegality.
1232
01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:32,921
A series of laws that are not really legal.
1233
01:16:32,955 --> 01:16:35,524
They're not really constitutional. After all like,
1234
01:16:35,557 --> 01:16:39,227
if you got to pay for all of this research and development on this...stuff.
1235
01:16:39,261 --> 01:16:42,698
And you can't tell Congress about it. Well, congress is supposed to
1236
01:16:42,731 --> 01:16:45,000
know about it, but they can't.
1237
01:16:45,033 --> 01:16:48,804
So you're creating an extra constitutional system,
1238
01:16:48,837 --> 01:16:52,040
and it's not difficult to justify. But it's still illegal.
1239
01:16:52,074 --> 01:16:56,845
It's still... It's still the destruction of this beautiful dream
1240
01:16:56,878 --> 01:16:58,981
that was the American Republic.
1241
01:16:59,014 --> 01:17:00,349
A beautiful dream.
1242
01:17:01,316 --> 01:17:02,851
You know...
1243
01:17:02,884 --> 01:17:06,054
[VOCALIZES] And it's been... It's just like a knife in the back.
1244
01:17:06,088 --> 01:17:08,724
And all the models that the United States turned on other nations
1245
01:17:08,757 --> 01:17:10,459
in terms of color revolutions and so forth,
1246
01:17:10,492 --> 01:17:14,396
which the United States Intelligence community, was absolute expert at.
1247
01:17:14,429 --> 01:17:18,367
You know, you set up an NGO in Ukraine or in Kyrgyzstan, or...
1248
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,069
Bosnia or wherever, and you throw a couple of billion dollars
1249
01:17:21,103 --> 01:17:22,771
and you just destroy the society,
1250
01:17:23,572 --> 01:17:25,073
and then you create a revolution.
1251
01:17:25,107 --> 01:17:27,042
But we're seeing that happening here.
1252
01:17:27,075 --> 01:17:30,979
I mean, it's happening in the United States, like our invention,
1253
01:17:31,013 --> 01:17:34,683
our diabolical invention is being turned on ourselves now.
1254
01:17:35,751 --> 01:17:39,021
You know, poetic justice in a way.
1255
01:17:39,054 --> 01:17:43,392
But... So I don't know. I mean, are we even able any longer
1256
01:17:43,425 --> 01:17:46,161
in an age where we're training an entire new generation
1257
01:17:46,194 --> 01:17:49,164
to rely on Alexa and Google Echo for all of their answers?
1258
01:17:49,197 --> 01:17:53,135
Don't bother researching. Get your authoritative answer from Google/YouTube.
1259
01:17:53,168 --> 01:17:56,138
They'll tell you. The Atlantic Council over at Facebook,
1260
01:17:56,171 --> 01:18:00,142
all these groups that are guiding people into
1261
01:18:01,743 --> 01:18:05,213
pre-masticated, pre-chewed solutions.
1262
01:18:05,247 --> 01:18:07,716
We'll chew your food for you, baby bird.
1263
01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:09,851
That's our world now.
1264
01:18:10,585 --> 01:18:12,020
And so we're taking---
1265
01:18:12,054 --> 01:18:17,259
We're just continuing this process of taking the ability
1266
01:18:17,292 --> 01:18:20,729
to make intelligent decisions away from people so they can't even
1267
01:18:20,762 --> 01:18:22,364
figure this stuff out on their own.
1268
01:18:22,397 --> 01:18:27,102
We always say, and I do say this, we want the truth.
1269
01:18:27,135 --> 01:18:32,107
The problem with the truth is I think the truth might be terrifying.
1270
01:18:32,140 --> 01:18:35,510
And in our own lives, I think we actually don't really want truth.
1271
01:18:35,544 --> 01:18:37,612
Like, we tell ourselves that.
1272
01:18:37,646 --> 01:18:39,347
But when you get into real truth,
1273
01:18:39,381 --> 01:18:42,617
deep truths, whether it's about yourself or about
1274
01:18:42,651 --> 01:18:46,488
things around you, those are very unsettling.
1275
01:18:46,521 --> 01:18:49,691
So I think that there could be some unsettling truths.
1276
01:18:49,725 --> 01:18:52,227
But that doesn't mean like we should all be afraid of the future.
1277
01:18:52,894 --> 01:18:54,663
You can't avoid it.
1278
01:18:54,696 --> 01:18:59,935
The closer this gets to us, the more provocative it's going to feel,
1279
01:18:59,968 --> 01:19:04,740
and the more we're going to grasp its straws trying to figure out what it is.
1280
01:19:05,774 --> 01:19:08,376
I think that
1281
01:19:08,410 --> 01:19:12,547
there is an extraordinary future available to us.
1282
01:19:12,581 --> 01:19:16,551
And it's based on a statement made by Colonel Philip Corso.
1283
01:19:16,585 --> 01:19:18,253
He describes a moment
1284
01:19:18,286 --> 01:19:22,557
where he was being asked by these entities
1285
01:19:22,591 --> 01:19:26,027
to turn off some radars at White Sands
1286
01:19:26,061 --> 01:19:28,029
so that they could safely leave.
1287
01:19:28,063 --> 01:19:32,434
He's then asked, "What's in it for us?".
1288
01:19:32,467 --> 01:19:38,006
The answer was, "A new world, if you can take it".
1289
01:19:38,607 --> 01:19:40,242
That means,
1290
01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:45,013
if you can rest it out of our hands, 'cause we're not giving you things
1291
01:19:45,046 --> 01:19:48,917
that will disempower you. If you can take it,
1292
01:19:48,950 --> 01:19:53,655
meaning if you can bear it, if you can bear to see
1293
01:19:53,688 --> 01:19:56,324
the whole paradigm that you have built up
1294
01:19:57,292 --> 01:19:58,426
of reality
1295
01:19:59,928 --> 01:20:02,264
thrown aside,
1296
01:20:02,297 --> 01:20:07,435
and that there is a whole new level of consciousness out there
1297
01:20:07,469 --> 01:20:10,238
waiting for us to enter.
1298
01:20:11,573 --> 01:20:16,511
Right now, we're up against very powerful evolutionary forces.
1299
01:20:16,545 --> 01:20:18,547
In evolutionary biology,
1300
01:20:18,580 --> 01:20:22,117
they talk about a concept called punctuated equilibrium.
1301
01:20:22,150 --> 01:20:25,287
What this essentially states is that once a species
1302
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:31,259
enters or appears in the fossil record, it stays in a place of stasis.
1303
01:20:31,293 --> 01:20:36,264
If change happens, it happens abruptly in a punctuated form,
1304
01:20:36,298 --> 01:20:41,069
and it causes a split where the species doesn't transform.
1305
01:20:41,102 --> 01:20:44,105
It literally splits into two different species,
1306
01:20:44,139 --> 01:20:46,274
and that's where we're at right now.
1307
01:20:46,308 --> 01:20:49,444
We're at this moment of rapid change in acceleration,
1308
01:20:49,477 --> 01:20:53,081
where we're merging with AI, where we risk ultimately
1309
01:20:53,114 --> 01:20:55,450
splitting into two completely different species.
1310
01:20:55,483 --> 01:20:59,120
Those who merge with AI and those who remain organic.
1311
01:21:00,188 --> 01:21:04,025
If there is a divine field that is responsible for
1312
01:21:04,059 --> 01:21:07,829
all of the time lines, all of the universes,
1313
01:21:07,863 --> 01:21:09,464
all of the dimensions
1314
01:21:09,497 --> 01:21:13,902
that can be infinite, as Roger Penrose has written,
1315
01:21:13,935 --> 01:21:16,838
and goes on in infinite cycles of time.
1316
01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:21,076
If we knew,
1317
01:21:22,444 --> 01:21:27,616
that what the divine field's goal has always been
1318
01:21:27,649 --> 01:21:32,387
is for every quantum energy packet called the soul
1319
01:21:34,422 --> 01:21:37,259
to leave the divine field.
1320
01:21:37,292 --> 01:21:39,928
The thought that dwells in the light.
1321
01:21:40,962 --> 01:21:44,199
And it sends out quantum energy packets
1322
01:21:44,733 --> 01:21:48,270
in inorganic, organic,
1323
01:21:48,303 --> 01:21:53,875
none of us know the parameters of consciousness in its totality.
1324
01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:59,481
But maybe the whole reason for all of it
1325
01:21:59,514 --> 01:22:04,719
is to see if every soul would choose on its own.
1326
01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:11,459
At some point in infinity would reject black, reject evil,
1327
01:22:11,493 --> 01:22:14,296
reject, hate, reject war...
1328
01:22:16,064 --> 01:22:19,000
...and return to the divine field,
1329
01:22:19,034 --> 01:22:21,169
the thought that dwells in the light
1330
01:22:23,371 --> 01:22:25,607
and then it would all disappear.
1331
01:22:27,609 --> 01:22:30,045
If that were the large truth,
1332
01:22:31,546 --> 01:22:35,717
then the consciousness of every human being on planet Earth,
1333
01:22:35,750 --> 01:22:39,287
right now this hour, this second,
1334
01:22:39,321 --> 01:22:43,458
if all of a sudden everybody is told the same truth,
1335
01:22:44,826 --> 01:22:49,097
that is the revolution we are waiting for.
1336
01:22:49,130 --> 01:22:52,367
There are only a very few things
1337
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:58,306
that might have the ability to shock our world into a better place.
1338
01:22:58,340 --> 01:23:00,875
'Cause right now, like we're on a train on a track that's...
1339
01:23:00,909 --> 01:23:04,646
I don't like the destination up ahead.
1340
01:23:04,679 --> 01:23:07,816
What's the destination? Here it is. The destination is
1341
01:23:07,849 --> 01:23:09,651
a global system
1342
01:23:09,684 --> 01:23:14,055
in which humanity becomes one big giant ant farm.
1343
01:23:14,089 --> 01:23:19,027
24/7 surveillance, 5G, 6G technology, smart devices all over the place.
1344
01:23:19,060 --> 01:23:20,996
No privacy for the rest of all time.
1345
01:23:21,029 --> 01:23:24,399
Not for you, not for your kids, not for your grandchildren, not ever.
1346
01:23:24,432 --> 01:23:28,937
A regimented society, propagandized 24/7 all the time.
1347
01:23:28,970 --> 01:23:32,140
And the only way really I can see stopping it is
1348
01:23:32,841 --> 01:23:36,077
a mass awakening.
1349
01:23:36,111 --> 01:23:39,247
It's like, people realize like, what's happening?
1350
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,017
And the only way that's going to happen is
1351
01:23:42,050 --> 01:23:47,288
the people have a massive lie exposed to them.
1352
01:23:47,689 --> 01:23:49,157
Like here it is.
1353
01:23:49,190 --> 01:23:52,060
You've been lied to on this scale
1354
01:23:52,093 --> 01:23:55,630
for an entire human lifetime or more.
1355
01:23:55,663 --> 01:24:01,336
In which everyone just says, "Oh, my dear God. What has happened?"
1356
01:24:01,369 --> 01:24:05,106
Our political institutions, our media, are everything.
1357
01:24:05,140 --> 01:24:09,077
Everything that we believed in has been showed to be
1358
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:11,646
one great long con.
1359
01:24:11,679 --> 01:24:14,282
I mean, let's face it. We're in an era now where you're not supposed to
1360
01:24:14,315 --> 01:24:16,584
believe in conspiracy theories.
1361
01:24:16,618 --> 01:24:18,820
A phrase, by the way, that actually was invented
1362
01:24:18,853 --> 01:24:23,158
as far as we can tell by the CIA in the 1967 document
1363
01:24:23,191 --> 01:24:26,361
meant to disable the JFK alternate theories at the time.
1364
01:24:26,394 --> 01:24:28,963
They actually created the phrase conspiracy theory.
1365
01:24:28,997 --> 01:24:32,200
But anyway, we're now in an era where you're not supposed to believe
1366
01:24:32,233 --> 01:24:33,435
in conspiracy theories.
1367
01:24:33,468 --> 01:24:36,638
But yet here comes the UFO conspiracy theory,
1368
01:24:36,671 --> 01:24:38,840
the true mother of all conspiracy theories.
1369
01:24:38,873 --> 01:24:41,142
What's bigger than that? Really nothing.
1370
01:24:41,676 --> 01:24:42,610
And if that...
1371
01:24:43,778 --> 01:24:46,381
...were fully to be exposed
1372
01:24:46,414 --> 01:24:50,452
in all of its like, diabolical,
1373
01:24:51,186 --> 01:24:53,421
like a web of lies...
1374
01:24:54,556 --> 01:24:56,224
I often wonder
1375
01:24:56,257 --> 01:24:58,593
maybe this would be
1376
01:24:59,828 --> 01:25:01,930
the one truth
1377
01:25:01,963 --> 01:25:07,402
that could actually be like that sledgehammer to smash that wall.
1378
01:25:07,435 --> 01:25:09,170
If it wrecks the governments
1379
01:25:10,138 --> 01:25:13,041
yay, 'cause...
1380
01:25:13,074 --> 01:25:16,344
How's that working for you right now? Not really good, right?
1381
01:25:18,913 --> 01:25:21,416
When I see how the world is run today,
1382
01:25:21,449 --> 01:25:23,151
how governments around the world,
1383
01:25:24,252 --> 01:25:25,453
it doesn't seem like...
1384
01:25:26,588 --> 01:25:28,356
...it's not how it's supposed to be.
1385
01:25:29,791 --> 01:25:31,159
It can be so much better.
1386
01:25:33,428 --> 01:25:34,996
You know...
1387
01:25:35,029 --> 01:25:38,399
Humans are the only species on Earth that require money to survive.
1388
01:25:39,934 --> 01:25:41,402
It's not supposed to be that way.
1389
01:25:42,137 --> 01:25:43,338
There's a better way.
1390
01:25:44,906 --> 01:25:45,773
And...
1391
01:25:46,808 --> 01:25:49,277
I just want people who've had these experiences,
1392
01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:51,946
don't be afraid to speak up and speak out
1393
01:25:51,980 --> 01:25:54,549
because the government knows more than they're saying
1394
01:25:55,416 --> 01:25:58,486
and they don't want you to know.
1395
01:25:59,687 --> 01:26:02,524
And the one thing that we can't lose sight of...
1396
01:26:04,359 --> 01:26:09,797
...is the government is ours.
1397
01:26:09,831 --> 01:26:12,800
That is something that gets lost in the conversation.
1398
01:26:12,834 --> 01:26:16,704
I think that society feels that
1399
01:26:17,805 --> 01:26:19,874
we work for the government.
1400
01:26:19,908 --> 01:26:24,212
They actually have this feeling, this vibe and this intimidation.
1401
01:26:24,245 --> 01:26:25,880
It's the opposite.
1402
01:26:25,914 --> 01:26:30,051
And if we want information, if we want action, it's us that does it.
1403
01:26:30,084 --> 01:26:32,687
The government's not going to do it for us.
1404
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:36,090
To expect disclosure to come from the government
1405
01:26:36,124 --> 01:26:38,760
for whatever reason, it'll never happen.
1406
01:26:38,793 --> 01:26:40,228
It will never happen.
1407
01:26:40,261 --> 01:26:43,932
Part of my perspective is developed from the Book of Revelation, and...
1408
01:26:43,965 --> 01:26:46,134
Remember, the good guys win.
1409
01:26:46,167 --> 01:26:49,571
The light wins. A new Golden Age manifests.
1410
01:26:49,604 --> 01:26:52,173
A 1,000 years of peace and that's what's at stake here.
1411
01:26:52,207 --> 01:26:56,778
And so we have to be willing to say, "Look, I'm going to give this
1412
01:26:56,811 --> 01:27:02,050
gift of disclosure to my children, my grandchildren and all future humanity.
1413
01:27:02,083 --> 01:27:05,286
Maybe we should think about organizing
1414
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,789
and getting down to Washington
1415
01:27:07,822 --> 01:27:11,759
and standing on the steps of the Capitol building,
1416
01:27:11,793 --> 01:27:13,628
"What is it that we're concerned about?"
1417
01:27:13,661 --> 01:27:17,699
Right there at the Lincoln Memorial, right there at the mirror pools
1418
01:27:17,732 --> 01:27:22,470
and get together like all other movements in the past happened.
1419
01:27:22,503 --> 01:27:24,772
And that... The media is gonna be there.
1420
01:27:24,806 --> 01:27:27,242
They're interested in this.
1421
01:27:27,275 --> 01:27:30,545
Could it happen? Well, you know what? You have to try.
1422
01:27:30,578 --> 01:27:34,015
In the last few years, with the amount of media publicity
1423
01:27:34,048 --> 01:27:37,652
to UFOs and UAPs and the stories that have come out.
1424
01:27:37,685 --> 01:27:41,155
There truly has been the birth of this disclosure movement,
1425
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:45,526
this push to get the United States Government to tell the truth finally.
1426
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,998
If we don't stand up right now and demand that this knowledge
1427
01:27:50,031 --> 01:27:52,600
and this information be made public,
1428
01:27:52,634 --> 01:27:53,368
it may never be.
1429
01:27:53,401 --> 01:27:55,770
Like a true deep,
1430
01:27:55,803 --> 01:27:58,673
disclosure that gets out of the control
1431
01:27:58,706 --> 01:28:02,277
of the managers of our culture.
1432
01:28:03,678 --> 01:28:04,712
That's a hope.
1433
01:28:04,746 --> 01:28:08,283
That's not a sure thing that's going to fix us.
1434
01:28:08,316 --> 01:28:14,188
But I think if we want something that's going to have a chance,
1435
01:28:14,222 --> 01:28:17,492
like, that's a pretty good one. That might be the best chance.
1436
01:28:18,526 --> 01:28:20,561
Today, are we at a crossroad?
1437
01:28:20,595 --> 01:28:23,698
Yeah, we are, which is a cross roads
1438
01:28:23,731 --> 01:28:29,237
that is no different than beens going on for centuries and centuries.
1439
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:33,574
Religious beliefs and scientific beliefs.
1440
01:28:33,608 --> 01:28:39,314
We have to face the fact that a whole new world is waiting for us.
1441
01:28:39,347 --> 01:28:43,051
A new level of consciousness is opening up.
1442
01:28:44,118 --> 01:28:45,420
And we're ready.
1443
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,289
We are ready.
1444
01:28:49,457 --> 01:28:53,661
This is the most critical time on the Earth.
1445
01:28:53,695 --> 01:28:58,599
If in the next 10 years this headline has not broken...
1446
01:29:01,235 --> 01:29:03,838
...I don't think humanity will survive.
1447
01:29:03,871 --> 01:29:06,007
MAN: You think this is the time for this stuff to come out?
1448
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,143
Yep, I am 100 percent sure.
1449
01:29:09,177 --> 01:29:13,715
And every person I know who's had the weird experiences I've had,
1450
01:29:13,748 --> 01:29:16,718
has been walking around saying, something is coming.
1451
01:29:16,751 --> 01:29:20,755
Something big is going to happen in our lifetime, and we need to be ready.
1452
01:29:20,788 --> 01:29:22,690
'Cause we have something to do with it.
1453
01:29:22,724 --> 01:29:26,761
But I always had faith that when it was my time...
1454
01:29:28,029 --> 01:29:30,131
...the universe would make sure
1455
01:29:30,164 --> 01:29:31,866
that I would be where I needed to be.
1456
01:29:34,035 --> 01:29:35,870
And here I am with you.
1457
01:29:35,903 --> 01:29:38,506
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