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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,600 Well, let's go straight to Leeds where the count is taking place for 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,200 the seat for Ed Balls, who is there. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:08,240 I was in politics for 20 years. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,320 In 2015, I received a shock when I lost my parliamentary seat. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,000 In the week I was swapping my suit and briefcase for sequins and 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,080 dancing shoes, Donald Trump, an entertainment heavyweight, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,320 became the leader of the free world. 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,440 To understand how this happened, I'm travelling to Trumpland, 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,560 America's Deep South... 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,960 Could you shout really loudly if you voted for Donald Trump? 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,320 THEY SCREAM 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,960 ..to meet his supporters and walk a mile in their shoes, 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,320 to learn how the President won them over. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,040 If you are going to come all this way to hang out with the Southern 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,240 boys, you've got to learn the ways of a southern boy. 16 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,960 It's always dangerous to start from 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,000 the assumption that voters are wrong. 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,480 You've got to get on the inside. 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,040 Can you see the world through their eyes, rather than yours? 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,440 How does Trump tap into the US psyche... 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,280 ..and what does his popularity tell us about today's American values? 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,680 My search for answers will take me to some extraordinary places. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Let me tell you, President Trump has done more for America in one year 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,600 than Barack Obama did in eight. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,680 What was it that Trump supporters thought he could fix about America? 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,320 We were heading into the pits of socialism. 27 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:32,960 And after the chaos and controversies of Trump's 28 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:37,520 administration so far, do they still believe this reality TV billionaire 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:38,720 is the man to do it? 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,920 We will make America wealthy again. 31 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,040 We will make America proud again. 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 We will make America safe again. 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:55,280 And, yes, together we will make America great again. 34 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,920 It's the first year anniversary of Donald Trump becoming the leader of 35 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:14,400 the free world, and I'm somewhere I never thought I'd be, 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:19,280 inside Mar-a-Lago, his $300 million Florida home. 37 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,480 That is his personal apartment, 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,000 that's where he's spent an enormous 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,360 amount of time in his presidency so far. 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,240 We are, you know, if I threw a stone, I could break a window. 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Not that I would, but I could. 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,800 Of course, I don't have access to his apartment, 43 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,520 but I have managed to get into his private members' club. 44 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,360 So, am I too loud? 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Am I too loud? 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,440 I'm the guest of Toni Holt Kramer, she's a friend of Donald's and 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,520 founder of his female supporter's group, The Trumpettes. 48 00:02:49,920 --> 00:02:55,000 Good evening to all you Trumpettes and Trumpsters from all 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,400 over this United States, 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,120 and many from out of this country as well. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Welcome! Keep it going! 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,440 What an amazing, amazing ballroom. 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Just a little ballroom. 54 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,080 It's huge. A little ballroom?! Did you see this chandelier? 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,480 I did. What's got to be done this afternoon? 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,320 We've got to set up the tables, 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,080 get the hats on them because we have the flowers, as you see. 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,320 Toni's supporters group has thousands of members across America, 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,920 and tomorrow night, I'll be amongst 800 of them at a party to celebrate 60 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:31,160 the President's first-year achievements. 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,120 We are right in the beating heart of Donald Trumpland. 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,960 Everybody, for the last year has been watching Donald Trump going 63 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,200 into and out of Mar-a-Lago. You know, it's the place where he 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,200 goes for his fancy dinners or to play golf. 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,040 The weekend, it's where he wakes up at six in the morning and does his 66 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,240 tweets. Do you find the President's tweets helpful? 67 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,960 I just really think that the world needs to hear that because I find 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,600 the mainstream media is so biased. 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,840 People are not really getting the real news. 70 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,680 CNN breaks wind, not news. 71 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,760 That's what they do, it's constant. 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,080 It's all, everything is anti-Trump. 73 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,640 So what would you trust, in terms of TV? 74 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,960 I trust Fox, but what I do is, 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,280 I research everything and I actually watch all of it, 76 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:21,120 balance it out but I would believe that Trump is telling the truth more 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,080 than anybody. Tweet us. 78 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,000 We are going to tweet you. I feel insufficiently glamorous in this picture. 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Turn sideways, it makes you look thinner. 80 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,160 Just turn to the side, that's better. 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,080 There you go. What are you trying to say? 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,320 We are trying to say, you need to cover that. 83 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Whilst I'm in town, Toni's putting me up in one of her 84 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,280 multi-million dollar homes. 85 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,000 Here in Palm Beach, she lives alongside 33 billionaires, 86 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:51,520 including the President. 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,280 As an economist, I want to know how Trump the businessman, 88 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:59,480 who has apparently filed for bankruptcy six times, 89 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,400 seems to have convinced voters, both rich and poor, 90 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 that he's the man to make all Americans wealthy again. 91 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,880 And a year in, do they still believe it? 92 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,120 What a beautiful room. 93 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,600 I must have been born with the same gene that the President has. 94 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Right. Because I am a gold fanatic. 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,480 I have never had a decorator in my life. 96 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,920 If you like the house then bravo for me. 97 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,280 But if you don't like it, just blame it on my bad taste. 98 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,320 OK? 99 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,920 This is you? This is me. 100 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,640 Toni is a former Hollywood celebrity reporter and has been a friend of 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Trump's for the past ten years. 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,760 There he is. That one is at Mar-a-Lago. 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,040 This guy, who nobody thought could win, wins. 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Right. What is the reason? 105 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Because he's not a politician, 106 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,360 that's probably the best thing he's got going for him. 107 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,640 He just is a businessman. 108 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,480 He knows how to make money, he knows how to turn a business around, 109 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,000 he knows how to help people get a job. 110 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:08,040 His big achievement is to persuade ordinary Americans he's going to 111 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,640 make their lives better? People that work for us were saying that their 112 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,880 husband, their child, 113 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,720 their working child was laid off or something and I just thought, 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,000 this is bad news, this is just not good. 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Then on a Saturday night, if he was down here sometimes, 116 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,680 I would just send over a little note 117 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,920 and I always called him Mr President. 118 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,120 Don't ask me why. 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Even back then? Oh! Before there was any conversation about it. 120 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,880 In my head, in my head he had to be President. 121 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,440 He just had to be President. 122 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Toni's taking me to lunch to meet the party's organising committee. 123 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,080 I want to know whether they simply support Trump because he's rich like 124 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,280 them, or is there more to it? 125 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,120 Here is Renato's. 126 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:57,360 Gosh. Ooh, sorry. 127 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,800 Hi. 128 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:05,680 This is Sue Bell... 129 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Like Toni, they're members of his Mar-a-Lago club where the joining 130 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:14,440 fee has doubled to $200,000 since Trump became President. 131 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,200 How are you? Good to see you. Great to see you. How are you doing? 132 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,320 Just fantastic. I wouldn't want to live here but in Mar-a-Lago, we do. 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,640 Wouldn't you say that if not for Mar-a-Lago, there are a lot of 134 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,600 people that would not be welcomed at a lot of the other clubs? 135 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,800 But he changed the tone, now there's an openness to Palm Beach. 136 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Palm Beach is a different place because of Donald Trump, 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,440 it really is. It's hard to believe what this place was like. 138 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,760 Nobody would talk to me, they would just... 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Because you were not old Palm Beach? 140 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,320 They thought I was Jewish. I don't happen to be Jewish. 141 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,880 There was an old establishment? 142 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Yeah. And he broke it down? 143 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,600 Yeah. And rejected it? 144 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Yeah. I wouldn't be able to go to 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,040 any of these clubs. He didn't care and I accepted everyone, 146 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,600 he didn't care what you did, what you look like, whatever, 147 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,920 you just paid the money and you are welcome and he has welcomed 148 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,080 everybody in his club for ever and ever and ever. 149 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 He is the nicest man to everybody equally. 150 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,240 That you can never take away from him. 151 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,360 They clearly love Trump for what he's done for them, 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,200 but there's one thing about Donald I have to ask them about. 153 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,000 Lots of people have read what he's said about women, 154 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,440 remember the famous interview, grabbed by the... Yes, yes. We know. 155 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,040 All of that. I'm going to stop you. 156 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,000 No, but my question, how do you respond to that, 157 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,760 what's the truth there? It's really easy. 158 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,000 I mean anybody... 159 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,640 First of all, men will be men, boys will be boys, but the reality is, 160 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,520 we all know him as a really great gentleman. 161 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Right, right. The thing is, he's a great family man. 162 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,360 You can tell who they are with their families, he doesn't drink, 163 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,400 he doesn't smoke. 164 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Oh, really? 165 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,320 He didn't even want to shake hands when we first met him, 166 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,280 more than 30 years ago. 167 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,000 He wanted to be one of the big boys. 168 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,160 So you think it was just macho talk? 169 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,920 Yes, of course. 170 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,920 My 13-year-old daughter said to me on the day he was elected, 171 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,920 how could America have defended a man who said things about women like 172 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,320 that? I thought they would at least try to say it was wrong. 173 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,720 I felt annoyed at myself in that I should have said... 174 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,720 ..that's just ridiculous to defend that. 175 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,960 They were willing to defend the indefensible to be part of the 176 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,560 Donald Trump club. 177 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,920 I don't think Donald Trump is the kind of guy who cares whether you've 178 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,760 got multi-generations of kind of blue blood Americans going all the 179 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,400 way back to the settlers. 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,480 I think with Donald Trump, 181 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,720 money talks and if you can pay your entry ticket, 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,520 then you can join his club. 183 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,880 The Trumpettes can clearly afford to be members. 184 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 There's rather a lot of people in Palm Beach who could get nowhere 185 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,680 near it, let alone the rest of America. 186 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Wow. 187 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,240 # In other words... 188 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:03,320 # Please be kind. # 189 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 I insist you stay and do this every day. 190 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,200 Do you like it? I like it, I like it. 191 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Terrible, isn't it? 192 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,160 I've realised that all I really know about my host, Toni, 193 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 is that she's rich and a huge fan of Trump. 194 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,880 Looks good. 195 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,560 So while she oversees our breakfast being prepared... 196 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,800 ..I want to see what more I can discover. 197 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,200 Two Rolls-Royce. 198 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,440 Oh, my gosh, look at this! 199 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,520 "To Toni... 200 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,520 "To Toni Kramer, with best wishes..." 201 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,920 A quite-young Bill Clinton. 202 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,360 And with Hillary up there as well. 203 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,760 Looks like... 204 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,240 ..Toni was friendly with Bill and Hillary. 205 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,280 I didn't know that. 206 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,920 How about a touch of papaya on the side? 207 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,560 Yeah, great. I can see why you have jam on them. 208 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,040 They are very nice, Nora. 209 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,440 I was looking at the pictures, you with Bill and with Hillary Clinton? 210 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Absolutely. 211 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,360 What's the history? I like her very much and she was, to me, 212 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,800 very open and very warm. 213 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,640 She invited us to her home and number of times for a dinner party 214 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,280 with her mother, who I was crazy about. 215 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,960 Her mother, Dorothy. 216 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,360 But the Trump attack on her, 217 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,960 he calls her crooked Hillary, 218 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,000 that she was always corrupt and venal and nasty. 219 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,720 Is that one small thing where 220 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,720 actually you think maybe Donald Trump goes too far? 221 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,600 No, because I will tell you that I have heard other people... 222 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,000 No, but I have heard people say to me, even when I 223 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,920 was friendly, friendly with her, I had people say to me, 224 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,960 "You don't know her." I mean, have you ever had friends that they did 225 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,160 something and you went, "Holy cow! 226 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,920 "I never knew that they were capable of doing something as 227 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,080 "deceitful as that." 228 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,320 I've had it happen where somebody has completely fooled me. 229 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,200 Do I have a crumb on my lip? 230 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,120 No, you look great. No, I thought there was a piece of... 231 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,520 Toni's party to celebrate Trump's first year anniversary is tonight. 232 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,400 And to make sure I'm Palm Beach ready, 233 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,280 she's sent me to her favourite salon. 234 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,080 I've been told to ask for what the locals have. 235 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Spread your legs a little more. 236 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,760 What? Just a little more. 237 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,360 Thanks. 238 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,240 You have me going to sumo wrestling. 239 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,840 Yes, going to turn you into a sumo wrestler. 240 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,160 Do you think most people at the Mar-a-Lago party tonight will have 241 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,920 had a spray tan? Lots of women. 242 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Do they? Yes. How about the men? 243 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Some men, but I think they do something different. 244 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,040 You know, sometimes they do the cream, 245 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,960 I think Donald does the cream versus a machine. 246 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,200 Does he not have spray guns? 247 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Can you tell? 248 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,680 I don't know! It doesn't look so natural, sorry. 249 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:16,200 Oh! Yes, I know! 250 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Oh, oh! 251 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Oh, God. Such a baby. 252 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,920 It's the knowledge inside that I've got spray tanned legs 253 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,920 which give me confidence. 254 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,320 It's not the social event of the year I would choose. 255 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,360 I think somebody who is not naturally a Republican or Trump fan, 256 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,240 going to the one year on celebration party, it's going to be a bit weird. 257 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,880 But, what an insight. 258 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Mar-a-Lago these days, is... 259 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,760 ..White House by the sea. 260 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,520 This is where the American government is run from, you know, 261 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,440 for not far off half the time. 262 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Hi, there. Ed Balls here for the Trumpette party. 263 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Thank you very much. 264 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,200 We're not just seeing Mar-a-Lago on a ordinary evening, 265 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:16,640 we are seeing it in its full... 266 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,320 ..Trumpian razzamatazz. 267 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,520 UPBEAT JAZZ PLAYS 268 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,320 Tonight, I want to get under the skin of Trump's wealthy supporters. 269 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Toni says they love him because he's a businessman. 270 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,200 But surely it has to be more than that? 271 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,760 Are you a fan of his tweets? 272 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,480 He doesn't get style points from me, but... 273 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,200 ..I love that he's so honest. 274 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,360 I love that he just comes out with it and says it the way it is. Yeah. 275 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,640 And so far, is he living up to expectations? 276 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,800 He is doing fantastic. 277 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,520 Right, what is the really important thing he's doing which is different? 278 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,640 It's a change of attitude for America. 279 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,800 It is. We're energetic, we're better, we can do more. 280 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Sometimes people think Donald Trump is about kind of, 281 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,680 about fear and worry. 282 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,320 But you are saying actually, he's about excitement? 283 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Clarity and direction. 284 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,360 So, if my family knew I was here tonight, 285 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,880 they would literally go and find a net and commit me to McLean, 286 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,880 which is the famous mental hospital in Boston. 287 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,560 These guys are all a lot wealthier than most Americans - 288 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,840 do you have to be wealthy to be a Trump supporter? 289 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,840 No, that's ridiculous. 290 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,640 Do you think he's delivered for them in the last year? Absolutely. 291 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Here we are. We made it. 292 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Would you believe, the big night is here. 293 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,520 You look fabulous. Thank you. 294 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,360 How are you feeling? I'm feeling just great, 295 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:10,920 don't move so quickly because it's really important. 296 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Cuz! Hi. Everything's fabulous. Fabulous. 297 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,480 It's fabulous! No kissing. 298 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,120 TANNOY: The great Toni Holt Kramer, who put this whole thing 299 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:26,440 together tonight. Please stand. Please stand. 300 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,920 Toni, we thank you. All of us thank you. 301 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,360 Is she not absolutely incredible? 302 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,600 THEY CHEER AND CLAP 303 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,640 Donald is still in Washington, so he sent son Eric and 304 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,280 daughter-in-law Lara to represent the family. 305 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,320 These are the people who, quite frankly, 306 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,560 in many ways lost friends because of their support, 307 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,480 but they cared about one thing, 308 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,240 they cared about making America great again. 309 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,800 You see where the stock markets are, 310 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,880 you see where the Dow Jones is and he's added $7.8 trillion to the 311 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,920 nation's economy. 312 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,800 Lowest unemployment ever. 313 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,800 More jobs, more industry, more everything 314 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,440 coming back into this country. 315 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,640 I mean, he is making America great again and, guys, 316 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,800 this is what we fought for, 317 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,760 this is what each and every one of us fought so hard for. 318 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,240 And on behalf of the entire family, thank you for everything. 319 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,760 Do you want to say something, honey? 320 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,320 We know it hasn't been easy for my father-in-law. 321 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,400 He fights every single day an uphill battle against the media, 322 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,800 against the Democrats. 323 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,480 But let me tell you something, they won't try and stop a loser, 324 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,320 but they will try and stop a winner and Donald Trump is winning for this 325 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,960 country again. That's how you know. 326 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Everyone I've met at Mar-a-Lago has said they are here for you. 327 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,320 For this event. 328 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,640 Ed Balls, hello. Nice to see you. 329 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,880 I thought there were two interesting things about Eric's speech for me. 330 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,840 One was the establishing of success and record. 331 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,720 "My dad promised to make America great again and it's working. 332 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,960 "Look at the evidence." 333 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,000 And the second thing I thought was interesting about 334 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,160 it, was the way in which he and Laura both said, you know, 335 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,600 "You Trump supporters... 336 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,360 "We appreciate you. You might feel alone and isolated and set upon by 337 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,360 "your friends, and it's not easy to say I'm a Trump supporter." 338 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:35,840 It's like being a swinger, 339 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,240 it's not something you necessarily admit to in the workplace, 340 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,280 but then you go to the convention and you are all part of it together. 341 00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:46,600 I need your attention right now, 342 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,480 because we are going to have 343 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,560 somebody who is really going to excite you... 344 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,520 Judge Jeanine Pirro. 345 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:55,720 CROWD APPLAUD 346 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,760 Welcome to Mar-a-Lago. 347 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,720 A magnificent place, it sure ain't no shit hole. 348 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Toni's guest of honour is Trump's friend and Fox News star presenter, 349 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,440 Jeanine Pirro. 350 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,880 For the first time tonight, I'm starting to feel uncomfortable. 351 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Barack Obama wanted to give our enemy $150 billion so that they are 352 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,480 in a position to create a nuclear bomb 353 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,720 and don't you believe anything else. 354 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,480 CROWD CHEER 355 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Record numbers of illegal aliens crossing our borders, taking jobs, 356 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:56,960 bringing with them family members and a lawyer and translator just in 357 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,560 case they decide to hurt or kill us. 358 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,160 Do you want America overrun by people 359 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,400 who despise us and burn our flag? 360 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,040 No! No! 361 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Then you can say I am damn proud to cling to God, 362 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,960 my guns and the United States of America! 363 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,200 CROWD CHEER 364 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 I find it really, really hard to sit through it. 365 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,240 I find it pretty gut-wrenching, actually. 366 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,760 You can see... 367 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,520 ..Donald Trump speeches on television when he whips up the 368 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960 crowd, you can read them, 369 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,960 but actually to be in the room and hear some of the things she said, 370 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,240 that speech was, like, hard-core, I mean it was... 371 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,880 It felt so extreme, dishonest. 372 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,280 Honestly? 373 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,960 Sorry, sorry. And without that... 374 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,720 Well, it's OK. 375 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,520 We're in the middle of a major, thousand people party. 376 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,680 It's a fabulous party. 377 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,680 Great party. 378 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,560 It seems that my night with Toni's over. 379 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,000 I'll have to wait until tomorrow to discuss that speech. 380 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,160 The thing I felt last night, I mean, it was a fabulous party, 381 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,640 for which you worked really hard but then Judge Jeanine's speech 382 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,360 was a real shock to me, I thought it was quite sinister, 383 00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,720 I didn't like it. It wasn't sinister. I'm sorry, no... 384 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,680 I was hoping you would say to me that you didn't like some of the 385 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,400 things... Well, I can't, I think that you're wrong to even go there. 386 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,920 I felt really uncomfortable. I... 387 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Do you understand that? No, no. 388 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,200 I do not understand that. I actually, I turned to you... 389 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Put your big boy pants on, as she would say. 390 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,680 I turned to you during the speech and said, 391 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,040 "Is she really saying...?" 392 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,080 And I said now is not the time to discuss it. 393 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,680 I know, but now's the time. 394 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,840 She said President Obama wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons. 395 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Why would he have given them so much money? 396 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,560 And everybody clapped! 397 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,760 Why would he have given them so much money? They all cheered. 398 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,800 But it's nonsense. I mean, whatever Judge Jeanine says I'm 1001% behind 399 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960 her or I wouldn't have asked her to be the keynote speaker. 400 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,440 You see what's going on in Washington. 401 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,000 But her speech was much, much more... 402 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,080 You see how they're fighting against him right now. 403 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,480 But her speech was so negative. 404 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,080 How they're using every excuse to go against our President. 405 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,040 And even some of the Republicans in Democrats' clothes are running around 406 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,680 not caring for the people of this country. 407 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240 But all of last week... And all of the good that he's done. 408 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,720 Where is your brain? 409 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,880 I just look at these people and go, you're so stupid, 410 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,840 you're such an idiot, you're such a moron. 411 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,680 God help you, don't you know? 412 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Don't you realise what is happening in this country? 413 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,560 We were heading into the pits of socialism. 414 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,400 We were getting down in the dirt with them. 415 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,440 It sounds like you've had lunch with Judge Jeanine. 416 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,840 I did. I did, actually. 417 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,720 And there is a little bit of Judge Jeanine kind of... 418 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,680 ..anger. Judge Jeanine knows that there is danger lurking in our 419 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,560 country, if we're not on top of it. 420 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,880 As much as I thought I knew before I got to lunch, 421 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,720 I tell you truly, I know more now. 422 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Sounds a scary world. I think it is a scary world. 423 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,280 I do. I'm going to say that right now we should just concentrate on 424 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,920 saying how much we adore each other, what fun we had. 425 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,640 Have you had enough of our conversation? 426 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,600 I think a little bit. OK. 427 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,600 But thank you so much for having us. A pleasure. A total pleasure. 428 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,840 You've been very generous. My pleasure. 429 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,680 And, you know, to pull off that party for all those people, 430 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,320 it's quite something. 431 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,880 They didn't just vote for him because he's a businessman... 432 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,360 ..they live in fear and believe Trump is going to keep them safe. 433 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Eh, eh, oh, oh... Donald Trump, it's time to go. 434 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,680 Just a few miles from Toni's home, anti-Trump protesters 435 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,520 have organised a march to coincide with the anniversary 436 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,040 of Trump's inauguration. 437 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,560 PROTESTERS' CHANTS CONTINUE 438 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Talking to Toni she's really afraid of anybody who's demonstrating and 439 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,680 on the streets. They are anti-Trump which means, in their view, 440 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,960 anti-truth, anti-American, they want to burn the flag. 441 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,440 And goodness knows what they'll do. 442 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520 That's what they're afraid of. 443 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,920 Donald Trump, the reality star, 444 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,720 Donald Trump the bigot, Donald Trump the simpleton is in the Oval. 445 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,400 What is the significance of your leaf? 446 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,640 What? What is the role of your leaf? 447 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,600 Oh, keep the sun off my nose. Oh, I see, OK. 448 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,560 I didn't know if it was a particular protest. 449 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,200 CAR HONKS HORN 450 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,640 It's the car from the Mar-a-Lago party, that amazing... 451 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,200 ..pro-Trump car. So a bit of counter demonstration as well. 452 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,160 CHANTING 453 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,080 "Lock her up." 454 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,480 "Lock him up." 455 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,000 This is poisonous politics. This is really divisive. 456 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,960 These anti-Trump protesters are obviously not the wealthy Palm Beach 457 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760 residents I've been hanging out with. 458 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,800 The majority of working class Americans voted for Hillary Clinton 459 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,400 but still around 40%, mostly white, did vote for Trump. 460 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,360 These are the voters I'm most curious about. 461 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,960 The thing that I'm trying to understand, though, is lots and lots 462 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,560 of minimum wage voters... Yes... 463 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,600 They voted for... 464 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,200 What do you think it is? 465 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,640 I think the immigration. 466 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,640 You think immigration. Yes. 467 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,520 They... He kept telling them that they're taking their jobs. 468 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,240 They are not taking their jobs. 469 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,080 They are doing jobs that they don't want to do. 470 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,800 And racism. Because there is a strong element, 471 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,600 especially in the Deep South. 472 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,640 Yes. 473 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,240 I asked lots of people were they surprised that working people on 474 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,440 ordinary incomes voted for Trump, and some people on the march just 475 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,080 didn't want to believe it could be true. 476 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,560 The only thing they could say was that they were deluded, 477 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,320 that they just did not know what was going on, 478 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,600 that the propaganda was too overwhelming, that they have been 479 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,360 brainwashed, believing lies. 480 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,680 I'm leaving Palm Beach to try and find out why some of the working 481 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,120 class did back Trump. 482 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:06,280 I'm on my way to Gordon County in Georgia, a massive Trump stronghold, 483 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,960 over 80% of people voted for the President. 484 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,800 It used to be a really big manufacturing centre, 485 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840 the carpet capital of America, of the world. 486 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,680 But loads of those jobs have gone now, 487 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,400 a fifth of the people live in poverty. 488 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,680 Donald Trump claims his policies are changing that. 489 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,560 I'm going to visit a local factory to see for myself. 490 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,520 TRUMP: Since the election we have created 2.4 million new jobs. 491 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Including 200,000 new jobs in manufacturing alone. 492 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,480 We slashed the business tax rate from 35% all the way down to 21%. 493 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,520 So American companies can compete and win against anyone else anywhere in the world. 494 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,840 So, what brings you to North Georgia? 495 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,960 I think in this county, 80% of people voted for Donald Trump. 496 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120 They did. How about you, did you vote for him? 497 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Yes, I voted for Trump. 498 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,800 I like what he said. He's never been a politician. 499 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,720 What's his qualification for doing the job? 500 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,600 A businessman. 501 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,160 I get tired of the politicians that are there forever. 502 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,040 They lose sight of what's important. 503 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,600 Yes. 504 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Being a businessman, he understands what it takes to keep one of these 505 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,800 things afloat. Keep them going. 506 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,560 Regulations, everything. 507 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,000 He's going to loosen some of those things up so we can actually do what 508 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,440 we do best. Build things, make stuff. 509 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,200 Yeah. These new tax laws are going to help us. 510 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,440 Yeah. Maybe not right away, but they are going to help us long-term. 511 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Yeah. Do you think it is possible to bring more manufacturing jobs back to here? 512 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,320 In time, I think it'd be possible, yeah. 513 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,400 Definitely. 514 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,480 Being 1,000 miles from the Mexican border, 515 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920 I'm surprised how many workers here are Hispanic. 516 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,600 I would say without the Hispanics, 517 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,440 we wouldn't have enough people to fill all these jobs. 518 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,440 So when the President says there's 519 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,600 too many people coming up from Mexico, 520 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,960 taking people's jobs, you kind of actually need a few more? 521 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Definitely. 522 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,280 What is your immigration status? 523 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,240 Are you citizen, or...? 524 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,680 No, I'm resident. Resident? 525 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Resident, but non-citizen, so you can't vote? 526 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,760 Not yet. If you had voted last year in the Presidential election... 527 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,080 ..who would you have voted for? Not Trump. 528 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Not Trump? Not Trump. Definitely. Why not Trump? 529 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,680 I don't like his ideas. 530 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,440 It's clear that Hispanic workers are an integral part of this business. 531 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,040 But I can't help wondering how the rest of the local workforce feels 532 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,920 about this. How you doing? 533 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,520 Ed. Rick. Good to see you. Nice to meet you. 534 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,120 We're going to head to my truck. OK. I'm going to take you home with me. 535 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,480 OK. Not in that way, but... 536 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680 THEY LAUGH 537 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,440 Carpet factory worker and Trump voter Rick 538 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,520 lives on the outskirts of town. 539 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,680 There was a lot of people who voted for him for the wrong reasons. 540 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,360 What would they be? The wall is a big thing. 541 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,560 I personally think it's stupid. 542 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,680 Because a wall is not going to keep somebody out. 543 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,200 A wall is just there to make it look like you care about keeping people out. 544 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,080 But it's not that you want people to come in? 545 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,800 I don't care if people come in. 546 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,160 So you're not worried about there being too much immigration? 547 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,080 No. If Trump does what he says he does and brings jobs back to the US, 548 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,080 there is going to be plenty of work for everybody. 549 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240 Right. Do you want anything from inside the store? 550 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,560 A drink or anything? 551 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,720 I'll have a Diet Coke. Gotcha. 552 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,680 Rick didn't vote for the President out of fear. 553 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,960 So is it because of his business credentials, 554 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,920 which seem to have convinced so many Americans? 555 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,800 They think their lives are going to get better because of what Trump's 556 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,000 doing to the economy. 557 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280 I mean, yeah, I hope that it does. 558 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,240 That's really the only reason I voted for him. 559 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,720 I know people want to say, oh, he went bankrupt this time, 560 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,800 he went bankrupt that time, but I think it was a strategic move. 561 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240 You know, to keep from hurting himself even further. 562 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,480 And every single time, he has built himself back up. Yeah. 563 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,720 Rick shares a home with fellow carpet factory worker 564 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,840 Brody and his family. 565 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,440 What's in the cage? 566 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,160 Hello, everyone. Ed. Good to meet you. Hi, there. 567 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080 Brodie. Really nice to meet you, too. 568 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Do you all work in the same place? 569 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,360 No. We work in similar places. 570 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520 My wife works at a veterinary office. 571 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,200 Do you? After-work, fishing? 572 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,800 Is that your normal weekend pastime? Fishing is my main hobby. 573 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,320 I do enjoy a hunt every now and then when it comes to deer and stuff like 574 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,720 that. Squirrel hunting, as a matter of fact, is actually pretty big around here. 575 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,000 I've never eaten squirrel. I've never heard of anybody eating squirrels. 576 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000 We got some free time, don't we? We are taking your ass squirrel hunting. 577 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,440 Squirrel hunting? Yes. 578 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,640 SOUTHERN AMERICAN ACCENT: Shit. 579 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720 THEY LAUGH 580 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Ah, here we go. 581 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,160 So, Ed... 582 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,120 ..have you ever fired a rifle before? 583 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680 I have never in my life. 584 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,800 I had planned to ask about Trump's tax cuts. 585 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,000 But somehow I'm heading into the woods to track down squirrels. 586 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,040 There is a nest right there. 587 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,720 Ain't that a nest? 588 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,360 I think we need to pop that nest and pop that nest. 589 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,520 Guys, we can't pop the nest. 590 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,400 Why not? It's got to be a fair contest. 591 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880 We could fire a gun near the nest... 592 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,640 ..but we can't hit the nest. 593 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,960 Do you want to shoot a real gun? I do not want to shoot a real gun. 594 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 I'm quite happy with my pellet gun. 595 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040 Put it away. You don't want to shoot? 596 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,240 It's a nine millimetre. 597 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,360 GUNSHOT FIRES 598 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,080 Jesus Christ. Bollocks, that was loud! 599 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,360 No, I'm not going to shoot that... Let's keep going. 600 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,200 Let's find some squirrels. I'm now actually thinking maybe firing at 601 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,800 the nest would be relatively benign. 602 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,440 THEY LAUGH 603 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,520 It's all relative. 604 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,920 If you are going to come all this way and hang out with the Southern 605 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,160 boys, you've got to learn the ways of Southern boys. 606 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,840 Do you want to shoot that TV? 607 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,400 Are you ready to be a man today? 608 00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:26,200 Yes. 609 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,240 Can I suggest that maybe you want to stand slightly further apart? 610 00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:44,520 Better shoot quick, Ed, before that TV runs off. 611 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,160 Is it armed? Oh, yeah, he's armed. 612 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,280 He's armed. He's got an AK-47. 613 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,840 You've got a pellet rifle. 1,500 megapixels. 614 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,800 I say, television! 615 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,760 I'm about to fire! 616 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,960 The British are coming, the British are coming! 617 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,120 THEY ALL LAUGH 618 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,560 You guys. 619 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Here goes. 620 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,480 Boom! 621 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,360 Done it. You want to shoot it with the pistol now? 622 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,320 No. Here's looking at you, kid. 623 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,520 If there was a squirrel hiding in there, it's in a lot of trouble now. 624 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,920 Donald Trump convinced guys like 625 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,840 Rick and Brodie that he would make their lives better. 626 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,800 TRUMP: We enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms 627 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,600 in American history. 628 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,080 To lower tax rates for hard-working Americans. 629 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,640 We nearly doubled the standard deduction for everyone. 630 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Millions of Americans will have more take-home pay starting next month. 631 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,040 A lot more. 632 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Although all working Americans will see a short-term tax cut, 633 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,360 the bill has been criticised for favouring the rich. 634 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,200 I, in the last couple of days, was in Palm Beach. 635 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,400 There are millionaires, billionaires, there. 636 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,240 Big cars, massive houses. 637 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,480 Go to Mar-a-Lago club. 638 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Where Donald Trump owns it, cos he's a billionaire, too. 639 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,800 And they think he's on their side. 640 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,880 And they are probably right, because, you know, 641 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,360 he's successful and they are. 642 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080 He's on everybody's side. Yeah, he is. 643 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,080 Even though he's cut taxes - actually, for the richest people, mainly. 644 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,520 For people, the top 10%. 645 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,360 Do you think that that's going to make the economy better for you as well? 646 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120 It has also helped us, as a matter of fact, 647 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320 since that bill was signed. 648 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,360 I've actually started earning $100 more per pay cheque at my job. 649 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,480 I got a bonus this year. 650 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,280 I've never got paid a bonus before in my life. 651 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,480 I also got a raise. 652 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,600 Not to mention the unspoken extra $100... 653 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,200 ..every two weeks that I've been getting. I've got three things right up the ladder. 654 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,000 But if I say to you, bonus, raise - 655 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,280 thank you, Donald Trump, is that right? 656 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,720 Absolutely. You sure? I'd say that. I mean, 657 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:19,200 it's just been promise after promise for years saying like, oh, 658 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,640 we promise change. I voted for Obama first time. 659 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,880 But the second time I didn't. 660 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,120 I just didn't like the way the presidency was going. 661 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,920 The economy just kept going down. 662 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,760 I didn't want, no offence, a politician 663 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,400 to be in a politician's position. 664 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,120 I said, you know, he's a businessman. 665 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,840 We are trillions of dollars in debt. 666 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,160 Let's see what he can do. 667 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,440 I mean, look at the Trump empire, it's huge. 668 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,840 What do you think of the kind of stuff he says about race, Muslims? 669 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,280 He is playing on the scare factor. 670 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,120 Yeah, which is bogus. 671 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,960 Not every Muslim is a terrorist. 672 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,800 Not every black guy is an unemployed piece of crap. 673 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,480 Not every white guy is a white supremacist. 674 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,120 I mean, look at me, for example. Like, I'm a redneck. 675 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,680 I live out in the country. Half my family's black. 676 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680 I have Chinese adopted cousins. 677 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,440 I want to learn Spanish so bad. I listen to bachata. 678 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,600 I used to be a Muslim. You used to be a Muslim? 679 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,480 I'm a Freemason, proud of it. 680 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,200 I mean, I am the culmination of what the melting pot is. 681 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,240 Rick and Brodie don't see their future working in carpet factories. 682 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,640 They have a surprising American dream - 683 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,880 to make their fortunes rapping about living in poverty 684 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,440 in America's Deep South. 685 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,520 We give us our own motivation to not be just a 9-5 guy. 686 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680 Let's do something with our lives. 687 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,080 Like, what we do is no different than what other rappers do. 688 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,280 We just tell it from our perspective. 689 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,360 A lot of people can relate to certain stories. 690 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,560 Everybody's got their own. Why not tell ours? 691 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,960 What's the story of the song? 692 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,800 Well, the main basis of the song is just going out to the mud bog, 693 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,680 having fun. Slinging red clay on everything. 694 00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,240 We may not be able to, you know, buy the grand things. 695 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,400 We still have our own ways of having fun. 696 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,760 It's become our culture. 697 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,640 I'm not quite sure what a mud bog is, or what they do there, 698 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,400 but before I leave Georgia they've agreed to take me. 699 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,480 MUSIC: Red Clay by Them Riverbank Boys 700 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,120 ED BEETBOXES OVER THE MUSIC 701 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,200 # Slingin' red clay on everything 702 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,200 # All them boys in Fords and Chevrolets 703 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680 # Ain't no need for candy paint 704 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,680 # All our drinks are moonlight made... # 705 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,200 Right here, baby. 706 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,320 HE WHOOPS 707 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000 I've got to say, this is totally nuts. 708 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,520 Can we just move about 20 yards that way? 709 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,480 Oh, no, it's going to be bad over there, too. 710 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,120 Without wanting to be pushy, can you pass the moonshine round? 711 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480 We're turning you into an Ed-neck. 712 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,880 That would easily turn blue. Easily. 713 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,200 That is quality. 714 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520 It's really, really, really good. 715 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520 Go, Ed! Hell yeah! 716 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,960 # Ain't no need for candy paint 717 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,600 # All our drink is moonlight made 718 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,240 # Slingin' red clay on everything 719 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,320 Oh! Oh! Oh! 720 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,000 Even if they don't make it as rappers, I can see that Rick and 721 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,360 Brodie do think Trump is making their lives better. 722 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,320 They're relaxed about the rich getting richer, 723 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,560 so long as they have an extra $100 in their pocket. 724 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,880 Trump may be a successful billionaire, 725 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,320 but his business pedigree has not impressed everybody. 726 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,120 One of the poorest minority groups in America, the black community, 727 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,720 overwhelmingly voted for any candidate other than Donald Trump. 728 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:54,920 Only 8% supported the President, 729 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,640 which makes it all the more surprising that one of Trump's most 730 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,240 vocal supporters in the election campaign was a black evangelical 731 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,320 preacher, Pastor Mark Burns. 732 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,320 I know without a shadow of a doubt that Donald J Trump 733 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,640 will make sure that all Americans will have jobs. 734 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,080 I've travelled to South Carolina to find out why Pastor Burns so 735 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,280 passionately believes Trump is the man to make all Americans wealthy again. 736 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,400 No matter what the colour of their skin. 737 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,040 I'm Pastor Mark Burns, 738 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,960 and with my lovely wife Tomarra and our beautiful six babies, 739 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,920 I invite every one of you to help me elect the next President of 740 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,800 the United States of America, 741 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,240 Donald J Trump. 742 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,320 Shout, Trump. Here he is. How are you? Pastor Mark. Hello, how are you 743 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,720 doing? Yeah, nice to meet you. Really good to meet you. 744 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:02,600 Ed, have a seat. Thank you very, very much. See, I'm going to get the 745 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,920 number three. Jimmy's special. Jimmy's special. 746 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,800 Yeah, you've got to get some grits, though. 747 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,280 Some grits? Oh, he needs grits. 748 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,680 You're not from around these parts, so you've got... 749 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,360 I'm not from around these parts. You know what I'm going to have, 750 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,960 number three with a side order of grits. 751 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,800 There you go. Now you're talking. 752 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840 That's how you do it. See, I do a fist bump. 753 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,800 Donald Trump does a fist bump all the time. 754 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,680 He is famous for the fist bump. 755 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,640 They have a whole thing. I am a long way from that. 756 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to bless our food real quick. 757 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,400 Father, thank you for the hands that prepared this food. 758 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,280 May it be a nourishment to our bodies in Jesus' name. Amen. 759 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,720 Amen. Amen. When I was in the Sunday school, we had quite a lot of, 760 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,400 you know, the parable of the talents, 761 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,520 which is when the rich man gave people money, 762 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,520 the guy who buried it under the ground was not successful. 763 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,320 And actually he was angry with him, 764 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,960 whereas the guy who made more money with the money, 765 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,640 that was actually better. 766 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040 That's the problem with American politics today. 767 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,480 We want to take from those that are working hard 768 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,760 and solely focus on giving to those who refuse to work. 769 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,200 I've been on this system, a welfare system. 770 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,400 I know the system. I'd used to live in free homes. 771 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,280 You know, I used to live... 772 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,920 Have food stamps. And I also know, Ed... 773 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,760 ..that once you get on it, how easy it is to stay on it. 774 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,640 But it's also the case that, you know, 775 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,160 being a black American is much tougher, economically. 776 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,680 Less likely to have a good job. 777 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,000 We cannot use the fact that I'm black as the reason why I'm not 778 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,120 successful. Barack Obama clearly destroyed that myth. 779 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,640 You met Donald Trump while President Obama was President. 780 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,720 I was invited to a meeting as he was preparing to run. 781 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,480 It was only about four or five of us black leaders in there and I said, 782 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,760 "Mr Trump, many of us black leaders 783 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,720 "have taken some major hits and backlash 784 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,920 "from our community just for taking this meeting because Trump's name 785 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,400 "unfortunately has become synonymous with racists." 786 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,280 You know, on social media by people, "Oh, my God, 787 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,480 "I can't believe you are supporting... You are a racist and you are a sell-out." 788 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,320 I saw that he desired to help the Christian faith and to declare his 789 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,800 faith strongly, regardless of what he has done in the past. 790 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,240 It's interesting you say regardless of what he's done in the past. 791 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:20,680 Is being willing to forgive him for things important? 792 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,360 I mean, isn't it for all of us? 793 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,640 I mean, when we ask Jesus to come into our heart, 794 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:25,960 we expect forgiveness. 795 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,880 It applies to all of us. 796 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,240 Even Donald Trump. Did I get my grits? 797 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,080 Oh, they are right there. Oh, Ed. Come on! 798 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,480 That? 799 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,520 Is that grits? That's grits. 800 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,040 Oh, no, he wanted a spray. 801 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,480 What's your name? Christie. 802 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,320 Christie. Thank you, Christie. Are you putting syrup in it? 803 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160 You put syrup in your grits! 804 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:55,760 I think it might be better. Oh, no. Did you even taste it? 805 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,240 It's good. Well, yeah, but... 806 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:01,800 It's like porridge - this may be an important historical moment. 807 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480 Is that an abomination? Yes. Yes. You are fired. 808 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,880 Pastor Burns argues that the President's economic policy is colour-blind. 809 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,840 Like Trump, he believes having money is a good thing 810 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,160 and if you work hard, God will reward you. 811 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,320 There's no black person, there is no white person, 812 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,000 there is no yellow person, there is no red person. 813 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,120 There is only green people. 814 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,040 Green is money! 815 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,640 So the actual preaching by the Pastor is done from here? Yes. 816 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,760 So he... 817 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000 Who moved the pulpit? 818 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,240 Pastor Burns has brought me to his church, 819 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,320 which doubles up as a Christian cable TV studio broadcasting across America. 820 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,960 Praise the Lord and thank you so much for tuning up to 821 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,160 The NOW Network. 822 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,760 Completely unknown before he met Trump, 823 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,640 I want to work out whether part of Pastor Burns' support 824 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,720 for the President is really about raising 825 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:06,440 his own profile and the profits of his business. 826 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,120 In America, money and religion can sometimes be two sides of the same coin. 827 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,800 I don't want a kind of come in if we're not... 828 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,200 The secret lair. This is the secret... 829 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,120 This is where it all happens? This is where the magic happens. 830 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,240 Right. 831 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,600 It's obviously a church and a vocation. 832 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,400 But also, it's how you make a living. 833 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,240 So it's a business as well, isn't it? 834 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:27,840 What's the business model? 835 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680 Do people subscribe? 836 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,640 Pastors essentially... 837 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,040 I guess you could use word subscribe but they... 838 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,640 ..they buy airtime on my network, The NOW Network. 839 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,560 Other pastors buy time on your network? You have to be sort of religiously-minded 840 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,960 and commercially-minded at the same time? Absolutely. 841 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,680 And presumably, from your point of view, going on as an adviser to 842 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,120 Donald Trump helps commercially. Yeah, I would think so. 843 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,160 Gets the message out? But, fortunately, our target audience, 844 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,360 you know, are not fans of Donald Trump. 845 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,400 Right. Yeah. The majority of our target audience is African-American pastors. 846 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,640 Right. And they tend to be not Trump supporters? 847 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,480 Not Trump supporters, no. 848 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,320 You have a few moments. 849 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560 Get your pen and paper, like we always say. 850 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,520 Alrighty, this is my spider that I killed off the President's back. 851 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,640 Oh, my God. 852 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,480 What? Yeah, I killed the spider. 853 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,680 Washington Post, everybody did an article. 854 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,240 There? Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot bigger when it was alive. 855 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:30,680 But I was in the Oval Office and the President was sitting down and 856 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,720 all of a sudden there was this massive, huge, 857 00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:35,760 white spider running up his back. 858 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,320 I'm like, is this a dream? 859 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,160 And I just - just, pow! 860 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,000 I hit the President on the back, 861 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,960 sitting in the Oval Office, really hard. 862 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,240 I hit him, smacked him hard. 863 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,680 Did the security guards all jump you? No, they didn't. 864 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,520 They didn't. But I immediately said, "Please, please, Secret Service, 865 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,000 don't shoot me, don't shoot me!" I was joking and laughing. 866 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,800 And there it is. Yeah, and there it is. 867 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,320 Tomorrow morning, Pastor Burns is giving an important speech at 868 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,760 a Tea Party Convention, the right-wing movement 869 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,400 tied to the Republican party. 870 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,640 It's not the natural home for an old lefty like me. 871 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,120 But I'm joining him anyway. So are you more like the Democrats or the 872 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,560 Republicans? I was more Democrats. 873 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,440 Yeah. Can I ask you about the tax cutting Bill? 874 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,280 There was a Bill which particularly cut corporation tax. 875 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,920 People only talk about, or they think about, the major corporations. 876 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,760 And those are benefiting from it. 877 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,200 And the owners and the CEOs are benefiting from it. 878 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,240 Yes, that is true. But really it is impacting people like me. 879 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:42,400 You know, you look at our small business, it greatly benefits us. 880 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,960 Now, we can invest more into our community. 881 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,600 We can invest more into creating jobs. 882 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,800 People with incomes below $50,000 a year generally voted for... 883 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,720 ..Democrat. People with incomes above $50,000 a year generally voted 884 00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:00,200 Republican for Trump. People look at this and think there is a party on 885 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,840 the side of poor people and a party on the side of the wealthy. 886 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,880 You're kind of backing the wealthy party. 887 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,720 That's what people think. Who, me? Yeah. 888 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,560 That's what people will think. I mean, that's their ignorance. 889 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000 I mean, you just work hard for what you get. 890 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,640 It's just that simple. And we turn to race as a reason why we are 891 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,760 not wealthy as black people. 892 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,720 That's not the case. So you can stay stupid. 893 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:23,560 You have the right to be stupid in America. 894 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,600 I have the right to be successful in America... 895 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,560 ..despite the colour of my skin. 896 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,360 After spending the day with Mark Burns, 897 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,920 I can see he's ambitious and shares Trump's drive for success. 898 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,400 That, I can understand. 899 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,840 But I wonder whether he agrees with Trump on everything. 900 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,360 What is your reaction to Donald Trump calling the entire African 901 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,640 continent, all 54 countries, shit hole countries? Pardon my language. 902 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,600 If, because again we still don't have proof. No, it's not been denied. 903 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,320 No-one is denying it. Were you in the room? Because the people in the room said that he said it. 904 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,960 Were you in the room? I don't have to be in the room because people in 905 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,600 the room said he said it. I have it on high authority from the 906 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,640 White House that he did not say it. Really? High authority from the White House? 907 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,080 There is clearly an understanding between him and Donald Trump. 908 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,160 I would go so far as to say a deal. 909 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,040 Doesn't mean that it's written down. It's not a contract. 910 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,400 Doesn't mean any money has to change hands. 911 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,120 But he is now getting access, 912 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,200 platform and status and in return he is stepping in at key 913 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,840 controversial moments and saying things which are very helpful to 914 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,000 time when others are accusing him of being racist. 915 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,600 I'll have to wait till the morning to challenge Pastor Burns. 916 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,160 When I see this new day and the sun rising here, 917 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,960 I think this is a new day for unification of our races. 918 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,960 I think that is what Donald Trump is doing. 919 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,240 Most black people don't think that's what he is doing. 920 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,400 They think he's being... 921 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,600 Pushing black people down. Yeah, but how is that possible when 922 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,880 right now the unemployment rate within the 923 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,520 African-American community is at an all-time low? 924 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,360 They believe the discrimination is getting worse. 925 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,040 It's about the have-not. 926 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,400 As long as we are focusing on the narrative it's about race, 927 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,680 when it's really about economic equality. 928 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,240 That's the whole purpose that Trump's agenda... 929 00:51:27,240 --> 00:51:30,280 You are a very effective spokesperson against that. 930 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,640 From his point of view. I mean, 931 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,600 you go out there and say, it's not true Donald Trump's racist. 932 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,400 That's quite powerful. That's because I know him personally. 933 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,600 You know him personally. 934 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,480 You are known in the community. 935 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,920 You are a black Pastor. 936 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,360 I mean, it's quite... Thank you, sweetie. 937 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,240 Ed, you need some coffee? I'm desperate for a cup of tea. 938 00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,840 Cup of tea? Definitely. Let's go and get some tea. 939 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,480 Thank you. 940 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,920 It's clear I'll have to pick this chat up later. 941 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,880 After Pastor Burns' speech at the convention. 942 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,280 I've been to hundreds of conferences in my time as a politician. 943 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,720 But never one this right wing. 944 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,640 Hello. You better give me some love, Miss June... 945 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,160 I will do that. How are you? 946 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,760 Tenants been great? 947 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,720 Everybody's been great? Well, actually, our tenants is less this 948 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:23,720 year than it has been in the past. 949 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:25,600 But we've had a lot of online. 950 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,880 Oh, great. Which they said was over the top. 951 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,560 I think the online audience will be important. 952 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,720 Pastor Burns told me that Donald Trump is trying to unify America 953 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,280 with his economic policies. 954 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,080 So I'm hopeful I won't have to sit through another divisive speech. 955 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:49,120 That our country is experiencing some of the greatest economic boosts 956 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,360 that it has ever had in a very long time. 957 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,480 Why? Because Donald Trump loves Americans. 958 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,320 Let me tell you, President Trump has done more for America in one year 959 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,000 than President Barack Obama did in eight years as President of the 960 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,840 United States of America. 961 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,080 If you believe it, shout yes! 962 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:15,320 THEY SHOUT 963 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,400 And we are taking America back from liberal racist Democrats that 964 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,480 are trying to do whatever they can to divide our nation. 965 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,760 God bless you. Certainly didn't feel like a unifying speech to me. 966 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,600 I love you. And before I take my seat, 967 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,240 I've got a special surprise for you. 968 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:37,840 I got a good friend, 969 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,520 one of the most brightest politicians in all of the UK, 970 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,360 Ed Balls. Ed, get up here quickly. 971 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,200 Y'all give him a big American... 972 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,480 Quickly. Come on, America, show Ed Balls some love. 973 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,480 I'm not sure anyone in this room is going to want to hear what I have to say. 974 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,400 That was something else! 975 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,440 Do you want me to talk? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 976 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,440 Goodness. 977 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,760 I never thought in my life I would ever stand up on a stage at 978 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:14,040 a Tea Party Conference and speak to this audience. 979 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,160 So... 980 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,720 Goodness knows how this is going to go. 981 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:22,120 When you actually meet Trump-supporting ordinary Americans... 982 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,800 ..they're voting for him because they want hope. 983 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,280 They want a better future. 984 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,440 And they think he can make the economy better. 985 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,280 And they think he's going to do it for them. 986 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,360 And a year on, I think they're still believing. 987 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,480 I think, also, the thing that strikes me is that there is a lot 988 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,600 of anger in America at the moment. 989 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,600 There's quite a lot of division. 990 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,360 You've got Democrats attacking Donald Trump aggressively. 991 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,240 You've got Donald Trump attacking Democrats really angrily. 992 00:54:52,240 --> 00:54:55,560 I went to see an anti-Trump rally in Palm Beach the other day. 993 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,920 During the election campaign you had people at Trump rallies yelling, 994 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,280 "Lock her up, Hillary Clinton." 995 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,240 And then at this rally you had Democrats yelling, "Lock him up." 996 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:10,920 The President. And I thought to myself, what's happened to democracy 997 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,960 in America where both parties want to lock up 998 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,800 the other's leader? Can I do another two minutes? 999 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,960 Yeah. Because the reality is that we always achieve more when we are 1000 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,920 together than when we divide and when we're angry with each other. 1001 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,360 I think that's the only way to make America truly great again. 1002 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,200 Thank you. Thank you for having me. 1003 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,200 Pray for us. 1004 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,120 You wind up this audience, totally, totally wound up and then you say, 1005 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,240 and now I've got a British lefty to tell you you're all extreme. 1006 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:46,240 PASTOR BURNS LAUGHS 1007 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:49,440 And they kind of went, what?! Was there any point where you actually 1008 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,480 thought, this is a disaster? Well, not a disaster. 1009 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,360 You know, I want to make sure everybody understands that his point 1010 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,840 of views are not necessarily my point of views and so... 1011 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,840 And vice versa. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1012 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,080 Yesterday, I saw the Pastor. 1013 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,520 Today, I saw the politician. 1014 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,960 That was a very political speech. 1015 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,200 Well, you know, I'm passionate about it. I think it's connected. 1016 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,840 I'm as almost connected as to what I believe spiritually. 1017 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,800 Would quite a lot of your fellow evangelical preachers think 1018 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,720 that you were letting the side down, 1019 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:18,560 that you were being used by the President? 1020 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,320 Yeah. Well, yeah, absolutely. 1021 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,680 Do they think you are being used? Many have said that. 1022 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,520 But that's not true. First of all, I haven't been paid nothing. 1023 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,240 No. The President hasn't gave me a dime. 1024 00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,720 It's important, though, to accumulate a bit of money because, 1025 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:33,560 I've got to say, it is expensive running for office in America. 1026 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,840 And when you run for the Senate, 1027 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,120 you're going to need to have a bit of money in the coffers. When I...? 1028 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:43,320 When you run for the White House, you'll need a war chest. 1029 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,920 Come on, that's the plan. No. You are definitely going to get elected. 1030 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,760 Why are you...? Because I was in there for 20 years. 1031 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,560 I can smell... I can smell somebody who is going to get elected. 1032 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,320 I can smell it. I'm only simply trying to be a voice... 1033 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,600 I have no ambitions in that direction, 1034 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,680 but if the country calls upon me, 1035 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,560 I will step forward. 1036 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,480 My number one focus is on serving God's people. 1037 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,680 50 bucks. I didn't shake your hand to the bet. 1038 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,160 Now they're going to say, pastor is a gambling pastor. 1039 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,600 That's exactly... You just hoodwinked me right now. 1040 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,120 Gotcha. Boom. 1041 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,520 After spending time with Pastor Burns, 1042 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,760 Toni in Palm Beach and the guys in Georgia, I can now see why, 1043 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,160 in their eyes, 1044 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,040 they are all in some way better off for now because of Trump. 1045 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,520 But, for me, the cost of reaping these benefits is too high. 1046 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:37,960 Can I get a black coffee and a BLT? 1047 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,560 Sweet bread, rye bread, white bread? 1048 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,440 White. 1049 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,520 Thanks a lot. 1050 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,360 Because I arrived thinking his support would be waning, 1051 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,560 there would be more...kind of worried about 1052 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,040 some of the stuff he says. 1053 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,480 It feels like as long as the economy keeps growing, his supporters, 1054 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,320 rich and poor, are going to continue to support him. 1055 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,880 I guess if the economy goes into a big downturn, 1056 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,840 then that could change. 1057 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,280 Until then, every time he says or does something which conventional 1058 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,080 politicians think is wild, people seem to love him more. 1059 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,360 Thanks very much. You got it. 1060 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,600 You have a great day. And you. Thank you. 89548

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