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Let's goes to Leeds,
where the count is taking place
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for the seat for Ed Balls,
who is there.
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I was in politics for 20 years.
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In 2015, I received a shock
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when I lost my parliamentary seat.
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MUSIC: Gangnam Style by Psy
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In the week I was swapping my suit
and briefcase
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for sequins and dancing shoes...
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..Donald Trump,
an entertainment heavyweight,
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became the leader of the Free World.
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To understand how this happened,
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I'm travelling to Trumpland,
America's Deep South...
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Could you shout really loudly
if you voted for Donald Trump?
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CHEERING
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..to meet his supporters
and walk a mile in their shoes
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to learn how the President
won them over.
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If you're going to come all this way
to hang out with the Southern boys,
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you've got to learn the ways
of a Southern boy.
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HE LAUGHS
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It's always dangerous to start
from the assumption
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that voters are wrong.
You've got to get on the inside.
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Can you see the world through
their eyes rather than yours?
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How does Trump tap in
to the US psyche
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and what does his popularity tell us
about today's American values?
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Hands up!
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My search for answers will take me
to some extraordinary places.
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Let me tell you, President Trump
has done more for America
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in one year
than Barack Obama did in eight.
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What was it that Trump supporters
thought he could fix about America?
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We were heading
into the pits of socialism.
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And after the chaos
and controversies
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of Trump's administration so far,
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do they still believe this reality
TV billionaire is the man to do it?
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TRUMP: We will make America
wealthy again.
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We will make America proud again.
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We will make America safe again.
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ED SCREAMS
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And yes, together,
we will make America great again.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Pleasure to meet you, sir.
Good to see you too.
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I was just thinking, what do you
expect to see at a redneck festival?
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All kinds of stuff.
What kind of stuff?
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Well, you'll see stripper poles
and you'll see tatas.
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What's that? Boobs. Really?
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Goodness. Really?
You'll see a lot of money.
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You'll see a lot of money.
Right. Oh, yeah. Yes.
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This weekend,
15,000 working-class Americans,
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with their monster trucks
and trailers,
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are descending on Saint Jo in Texas
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for the festival
Rednecks With Paycheques.
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How are you doing?
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This festival is billed
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as a celebration
of Southern American pride.
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I guess if you're going round
a redneck festival,
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you need decent wheels.
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How are you, sir? Derrick Morse.
Good to meet you, Derrick. Ed balls.
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I appreciate you coming out here.
Looking forward to it. Yes, sir.
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I've accepted an invitation
from Trump voter
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and event organiser Derrick.
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I'll get my bag. OK.
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It's his festival and it takes place
on his ranch.
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Do you like dogs?
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I do. That's Rocco. Hello, Rocco.
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Why Rednecks With Paycheques?
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Well, I had a friend
who's a real muscular tough guy.
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He's a redneck,
makes a lot of money,
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so we came up
with Rednecks With Paycheques.
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When you say "redneck",
what does the word mean?
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Just a slang term
for country boy, you know.
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Is he bothering you in your lap?
Not at all. I'm sorry.
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He's comfy and I'm dealing with it.
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This culture, Donald Trump's
election has made people
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more proud of it? I would think so.
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I think Trump, for these people,
he definitely fits.
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Pride in their country is a feeling
Donald Trump has promised
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to deliver to all Americans.
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TRUMP: We, the citizens of America,
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are now joined
in a great national effort
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to rebuild our country
and restore its promise
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to let it shine as an example
for everyone to follow.
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We will make America proud again.
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A year on, I want to find out what
it means to be a proud American.
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This country is a melting pot
for all ethnicities,
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but does Trump's focus
on nationalism
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risk dividing the country?
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Look at that truck. It's flying the
American flag and the Trump flag.
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There they are, look at that.
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So you voted for Hillary Clinton?
Fuck no!
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LAUGHTER
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I actually voted for Obama
in his first term
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cos I thought he would make
a change for everybody,
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but then I feel like
he divided the country.
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Some people think Trump divides
the country.
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I'm happy with everything he's done.
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I feel like he's actually doing
a lot, making a lot of changes,
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standing up for everybody.
He connects more with people.
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He's not a Southern boy though,
is he? He's not a working guy.
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I think he's awesome. I'm telling
you, he does what he says.
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He is a numbers guy.
If you don't perform, you're out.
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I like that about him.
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It's clear Trump's no-nonsense
attitude has resonated
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with the values of these
working-class Southern voters.
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People said if you want to find out
what really proud Americans are
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to come to this festival.
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CHEERING
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Welcome to America.
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Rednecks With Paycheques!
Hell, yeah!
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To these guys, the term "redneck"
means a hard-working American,
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but to many, especially
in US cities, it means white trash,
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and along with the Confederate flag,
has become synonymous with racism.
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I guess the only thing,
looking around,
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it's a nice atmosphere,
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people are enjoying themselves,
having a beer...
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The only thing is
that most people are white.
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There's not many Mexicans
and blacks here. No.
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I just wonder,
it's one part of America?
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If you went up to New York and said,
"I met these rednecks
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"and they were flying
the Confederate flag,"
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what would they think they were?
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They'd think they live
in a trailer park.
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And they'd think they were racist.
Yes, pretty much so.
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But they're not.
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They're just normal people
that live pay cheque to pay cheque
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and have a good time.
Anything I can do to help? Yeah.
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Are we roping them up? Sure.
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Get your hands dirty, man.
Who are you racing against, Ken?
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A guy by the name of Cody Russell.
In this one here?
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They're known as cheaters.
They cheat at everything they do.
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Rednecks With Paycheques!
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One, two, three!
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All right!
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CHEERING
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There's someone in the crowd
I wasn't expecting to see
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at a redneck festival.
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It's wild. It's real wild.
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I come down here from Kansas way...
From Kansas?
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Did you know you were a redneck
before you arrived?
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Well, hell, yeah! Did you?
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You're the first black redneck
I've ever met. Shit!
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I mean, there's a whole lot
more of us than you might think.
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Hell, yeah, bro. When you see the
Confederate flag, what do you think?
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I see American history.
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There was a lot of things
that happened in the South
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that I don't agree with. You know,
back in the day, like, slavery.
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Hey, but you know,
that was 150 years ago.
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There were people 30, 40 years ago
who used the Confederate flag
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as a symbol of anti-civil rights.
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But when you see
the Confederate flag here,
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are they saying
something about race?
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Not in my opinion. What are they
saying something about?
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They're saying something
about pride. Like, the South.
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Yeah. You know, we have our pride.
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Did you vote in the election? I did.
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Who did you vote for?
I voted for Donald J Trump.
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I voted for Donald J Trump.
He represents...
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He represents
the America I want to know.
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There were some people who thought
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Trump had a bit of race
in his message. No.
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I've listened to every Donald Trump
speech from here to 1990.
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I've never heard a word of racism
come out of his mouth.
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At Charlottesville, he talked
about the white supremacists
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and the Ku Klux Klan guys
as being decent people.
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No, he talked... He didn't say that.
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I watched his whole speech,
and he said there was bad people
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and good people on both sides.
I just want everybody to get along.
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We're all Americans,
we all have our country to live for.
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Why fight all the time?
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My host, Derrick,
has a personal reason
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for believing Donald Trump admires
the redneck spirit.
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He recently met the President.
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By using many of these
monster trucks,
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he helped save lives during the
national disaster Hurricane Harvey.
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So, all these big trucks went down
like a bunch of hillbillies
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coming to town,
but people needed help.
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Before you knew it,
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we were hauling the police around
to different places and medication.
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Your massive trucks could get
through stuff.
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So, the rednecks came to the rescue.
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Yeah, and about 30 of us
were invited to meet Donald Trump
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and when I told him
I came from Texas,
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he said, "Thank you very much,"
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and he said, "The country needs
more people like you,"
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and I appreciate that.
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Come on, Rocc. Come here.
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People ask, you know, I'm a plumber,
I'm a trashman, I'm a rock layer...
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Did you build this? Yes, sir.
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Your room's right down here.
Wow, look at these.
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It's slightly odd having all these
animals staring at you, isn't it?
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Whilst at the festival, Derrick
is putting me up in his cabin.
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I'm sharing with his family.
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Me and my sister, our last name is
Ball. Is it? B-A-L-L? Yeah. No way!
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His last name is Balls. No!
B-A-L-L-S.
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But they called us Balls
in high school. The two of you? Yes.
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Yeah, this is my sister.
You're the Balls. We're the Balls.
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Where are you from?
From London. London?
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VOICEOVER: I've heard the term
"Southern pride" a lot today,
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but I want to know
what it means to these guys.
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Most people here at this festival
who I've talked to today
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would say there is something
about being Southern
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which is distinctive and different.
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What is it about being Southern
which is different?
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It's just loving your country,
loving your family...
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Proud to be an American.
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Working hard, but also having fun
on your off time.
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I think everybody imagines it's
a Confederate Southern type thing.
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That's not the case at all. There's
quite a lot of Confederate flags.
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Sure, however, at the same time,
if you go up somewhere up north,
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anywhere you have land here,
people are out there in the mud,
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having a good time. Yeah...
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Do you think Hillary Clinton
respects rednecks? Absolutely not.
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I mean, I think she's made it
pretty clear.
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When she kind of categorised
everybody as being deplorable
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that actually supported
a certain candidate,
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I think right there,
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you put yourself above a standard.
That's right. That's...
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She was saying, though, that
the people who were deplorable
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were the people who she thought
were racist, didn't she?
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And she was probably equating
redneck and racism.
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Do you think Donald Trump respects
rednecks? Absolutely.
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That's quite an important
distinction.
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Why do we have everybody emphasise
on the racism so much?
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We just had a black man
in office for two terms.
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But if you look at the people
who marched in Charlottesville
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under a Ku Klux Klan banner,
those guys definitely support Trump,
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so for whatever reason,
he ended up picking those votes up.
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Look, we're all Trump supporters.
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Do we agree with everything he did?
Absolutely not.
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So, how can I simply sit here
and say, "You know what,
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"because he did this,
I'm done, I disagree.
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"And right now, I'm on your team
because he did this"?
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I think in the end,
it comes down to,
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"Do I really think
he cares about me?" Sure.
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And the interesting thing is there's
this north-east billionaire guy,
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but a festival here in Texas,
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and almost everybody thinks
that Donald Trump is on their side.
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It's the wildest thing
I've ever been to.
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It's like Glastonbury
for petrolheads.
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White working-class Trumpland
on massive steroids.
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But I've learned
something important today.
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Here, at least,
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people don't want Southern pride
to be about white supremacy.
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They want it to be
about the values of hard work,
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family and a sense of belonging.
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By supporting these rednecks
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and winning
the white working-class vote,
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I think Trump played
a very shrewd move.
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Before I leave Texas,
Derrick wants to introduce me
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to the person he calls
the hardest worker at the festival,
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his close friend Martha.
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She's almost like my mother, really.
OK. She's a slave driver, really.
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She's ruthless.
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She employs all the trash crew,
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she runs the gas station,
our water truck.
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When she hires them,
you know they're good,
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cos she won't put up with any BS.
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I mean, she's a hard-ass.
There she is, right here.
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Martha also runs
the Mexican food stand.
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She came to the US from Mexico
32 years ago.
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Martha? Yes. Ed.
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Hello, how are you?
Hey, how are you? Good to see you.
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Martha Garcia, nice to meet you.
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I told him you were a slave driver
and you wouldn't cut any slack.
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I don't cut any slack.
I'll fire him.
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Do you need some help?
You want to help?
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Yeah, I'll get to work. You want
to wash these tomatoes? Sure.
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Do you want me to chop them?
No. I'm good at chopping.
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No, we're going to fry them.
Fry them?
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We going to throw them in this
basket. OK. And put them down, OK?
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Come here.
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SHE SPEAKS SPANISH
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Burrito? What kind? Beef or chicken?
Chicken. Chicken, please.
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It's got a kick.
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MARTHA LAUGHS
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ED CHOKES
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How did you end up here in Texas?
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I swam the river.
You swam the river?
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Uh-huh. 17. Aged 17, you swam?
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So your family had come illegally?
Yes.
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They left me with my grandma
and they came by themselves
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and left me down there
until I would turn 17.
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So, you actually ended up
without your parents?
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When I was younger,
and I was in Mexico, I wondered
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if my mum loved me any more
because she left me behind.
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Why did she leave you behind?
They couldn't bring me with them.
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It was too dangerous, they thought.
Too dangerous? Yeah. Gosh.
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Even now, talking about it
is really hard. It hurts.
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Maybe I just put it behind
and keep on. I learned that.
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You just deal with it and go on.
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What was it about America which
meant...? Why all that pain...?
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It's a different life.
You struggle in Mexico.
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Either you eat
or you pay your bills.
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And here, you can do both.
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And it's been a happy ending.
The American dream.
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Come to work at Rednecks.
THEY LAUGH
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Two tortillas please, both beef.
Hot sauce in it? Yes.
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Awesome!
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Tell me if he complains. He hasn't
yet. He hasn't complained yet.
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I'm watching to see
whether he grimaces.
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It's really good. That's why
we sell them, cos they're good.
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Good corn dog!
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So, Martha, there's quite a lot
of Trump flags here,
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and Trump was a guy who said, "I'm
going to send the Mexicans back.
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"Stop the illegals."
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Mm-hm.
So, people flying Trump flags,
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are they people who would
rather you weren't here?
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There is something else behind
the illegals. Criminals. Right.
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I'm not a criminal,
so why would I get offended? Right.
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Do I want a rapist in my backyard?
Do I want a thief in my backyard?
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No. But does Donald Trump
want you in America?
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He wants me,
because I'm a good citizen.
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Yeah. And because I voted for him.
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Did you? I voted for Donald Trump.
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And my family knows it and it caused
a little bit of contradiction
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but, in the end, they love me
and they respect my opinion,
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like I respect theirs.
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So you are related?
Yes, pretty much.
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And Martha was saying that lots
of her family were a bit surprised
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by her voting for Donald Trump.
Oh, yeah.
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I did not vote for Trump.
It wasn't for me.
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I'm proud to be an American, I'm
proud to be Mexican too, you know.
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I was born here, but growing up
in a small town,
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where, you know,
I was always a minority,
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but I didn't...really feel
that tension.
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I feel there's a lot more
tension now.
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Because of what the President said?
Yes.
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And as for the wall?
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What do you think? Build it?
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Mm-hm.
I'm sorry, I'm in, you're out.
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Maybe I'm selfish, I don't know.
Let the good hard workers come in.
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Mm-hm. And let the bad guys
not come in. Right.
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But the wall doesn't discriminate.
No, that's true.
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We just take life as it comes.
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That's why I think maybe
I am selfish, I don't know.
334
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It doesn't feel
like you're very selfish
335
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with all the people you employ
and all the hard work you're doing,
336
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and everything you do for America,
but it's a tough one, isn't it?
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It is tough. Really hard.
But no, I stand my ground.
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I will vote for him again.
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It's a privilege to speak to you
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and to meet a really proud
American citizen. I'm very proud.
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And can I just say, we need some
more beef, we need some more cheese.
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We've got it.
And the beans are a bit sloppy.
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But other than that,
it's all going well.
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Thank you for letting me come
and help. See you later.
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You got this. See you later. Uh-huh.
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If Trump, the man Martha voted for,
was in power
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when she swam to the States,
she'd have been sent straight back
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and the life she now loves
would not have been possible.
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She argued that Trump is just trying
to keep the bad guys out...
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..so I'm leaving the festival
to find out
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whether that's really
what's happening.
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I'm travelling to Atlanta
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to meet the Immigrations
and Customs Enforcement Agency, ICE.
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Trump has recently given them
greater powers
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to evict illegal migrants.
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TRUMP: We have some bad hombres here
and we're going to get 'em out.
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We have to keep the drugs
out of our country.
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Right now, we're getting the drugs,
they're getting the cash.
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We have proposed new legislation
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that will fix our immigration laws
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and support our ICE
and border patrol agents.
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These are great, great people
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that work so hard
in the midst of such danger.
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PHONE RINGS
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Hi, this is Luke.
Good morning, Mr Martinez?
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Yes, good morning.
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Is there anything at this point
you can tell me about the raid
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00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,120
we're going to be coming with you
on? We don't do raids.
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We do targeted enforcement actions.
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We'll give you a full briefing
when we get the team set up.
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So, it's coming up to 4.30
in the morning, here in Atlanta.
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I've got a rendezvous
with ICE officers here.
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The rumours are that they don't just
arrest their target.
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Family members,
maybe even neighbours as well.
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In all likelihood, today is going to
be the end of their American dream.
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00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,880
Hi, Ed. Luke, good morning. Nice
to meet you. Welcome to America.
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00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,280
This is our Field Office Director,
Sean Gallagher.
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00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:04,960
Good to meet you.
Nice to meet you, Ed.
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00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880
Director Gallagher is overseeing
tonight's operation.
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00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,000
We brought you a little gift.
We don't expect any trouble but...
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00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,280
So, what do you know about...
Let me get you in...
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..the guy we're going after today?
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00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,000
He is a convicted
narcotics trafficker. Right.
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00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,720
Last time he was arrested, he was
caught with 53 kilos of cocaine,
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so obviously part of a major
drug trafficking organisation.
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So he was convicted... Yes.
..and he served time in the US?
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00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,640
He did, he served time in federal
prison, a number of years. Um...
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And then he was deported after that?
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He was deported back to Mexico and
he illegally re-entered the country.
390
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,280
You know... Sir, the lights are on
over there, so need to get going.
391
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,360
OK. Let's go.
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We have an arrest warrant.
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If the individual refuses
to come out,
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we'll do a dynamic entry into the
residence and take the door down.
395
00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:57,320
Right. Police with a warrant.
Come to the door.
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Step outside. Step outside.
397
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,720
It's six o'clock. The ICE team
have arrived at the house
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and they've got an arrest warrant
for the guy
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00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,840
but not a warrant
to go onto the property.
400
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,560
Come back here.
Come over here, ma'am.
401
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,000
Hey, kids.
402
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,360
VOICE BREAKING: There's not anybody
inside.
403
00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:19,880
That's only children, my kids.
OK, ma'am.
404
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,400
We'll get them out, OK.
405
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,640
It's tough to watch a mother
and two children
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being pulled from their home.
407
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,920
We have a warrant.
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00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,240
Call out to us if you're inside.
409
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600
Put your hands up. Hands up!
410
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,960
UNCLEAR SHOUTING
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Just making sure
the residents are secure.
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We have a warrant for your arrest.
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00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,680
We're taking you down to the office,
414
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,840
we'll explain everything
once we get down there.
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00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,040
Do you have any weapons on you? No.
What's that?
416
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,800
Que es eso?
SUSPECT SPEAKS IN SPANISH
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00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,760
ICE, not the cold kind.
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00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,120
So, he's got a little bit
of drugs on him.
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00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:02,160
Do you know why you've been
arrested? I don't know.
420
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,360
I don't do nothing, man. No?
OK, these guys are from ICE.
421
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,160
Do they think
you're an illegal migrant?
422
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,200
He knows exactly
why he's been arrested.
423
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,000
Don't let him fool you.
424
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:17,160
So, the ICE team have found
some crystal meth on his possession,
425
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:22,600
so he's not only somebody who was
a past convicted drug dealer,
426
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,720
but he's somebody who has got
illegal drugs on his possession,
427
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,000
so he's been arrested.
428
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,160
Guys, I'd like to move us out so we
can have everybody be safe. OK.
429
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,760
Thank you.
430
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,280
Is that the kind of raid you've been
doing for the last five, ten years?
431
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,320
That's not a raid.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
432
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,440
Sorry, sorry, sorry. No, it's OK.
433
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,800
A targeted enforcement activity.
That's correct.
434
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560
I know that cos it's TEA,
I've clocked it.
435
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,680
Yeah, cos we don't indiscriminately
arrest people
436
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,280
for being illegal.
437
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,760
It's a kind of misconception
within the illegal alien community.
438
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,440
That's not something we do.
There are rumours, you know,
439
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,680
that you have offices on street
corners looking for broken lights.
440
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,480
It never happens. Never happens.
441
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:09,040
But for all the criminals arrested,
442
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,880
like the one I've just witnessed,
many more illegal immigrants
443
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,160
who've committed no crime are now
being picked up under Trump.
444
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,960
An increase of 171%
in the first year of his presidency.
445
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,080
Good morning.
This is our processing area.
446
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,320
So, every individual that
is arrested by one of my officers,
447
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,520
they're brought
into this processing area
448
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,760
to be interviewed, followed
by a metrics take and photographs.
449
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,960
The ICE headquarters are far more
relaxed than I was expecting.
450
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,720
Did anyone help you come in?
451
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,160
Did you pay a smuggler or did you
come in by yourself? Myself.
452
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,600
Yourself? Do you have any tattoos?
You didn't get anything new? No.
453
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,440
OK. Are you in a gang? No. No?
454
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,400
I have to say, as a politician,
455
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,600
I've certainly seen in Britain
the concern about immigration
456
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,360
and it not being properly controlled
grow and grow and grow.
457
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,680
Do you think that has been
the same for the US?
458
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,000
It depends on what region
of the country you live,
459
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,880
what industry you're in,
whether or not you're concerned.
460
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,920
If you're an American citizen
who is looking for a job
461
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,760
and those jobs are going to somebody
462
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,160
who is illegally working
in an industry,
463
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,440
obviously there are going to be
concerns there.
464
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,320
ICE Field Officer Director Gallagher
and his team have been emboldened
465
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,920
by the President's tougher stance
on immigration.
466
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,360
It feels to me,
and maybe this is now changing,
467
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:32,520
but until recently,
America kind of tolerated the fact
468
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,520
that there was millions of people
here illegally.
469
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,960
It was just part of how it was,
do you know what I mean?
470
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,000
Until Donald Trump, was there
a president who really was trying
471
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,200
to focus on removing
illegal migrants?
472
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,560
What I can just say is that it's
more in the media now than ever.
473
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,960
We've seen a significant decrease
in the amount of people
474
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,480
attempting to enter illegally
into this country,
475
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,040
and that is a product
476
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,880
of this administration's stance
on immigration.
477
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,400
But you know, generally around
65, 60, 65% of the people
478
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,760
that we remove from this country
have criminal records.
479
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,640
The only thing that's changed is
we can take an enforcement action
480
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,720
against anybody that's illegal
in this country.
481
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,320
The only thing I was thinking was,
482
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,920
I understand the powers
and the resources,
483
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760
but sometimes the President
sounds like,
484
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,800
you know, Mexicans,
they're the bad hombres,
485
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,280
and the Muslim travel ban,
watch out for these Muslims.
486
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,480
Sometimes I feel as though
he sounds like he's talking about...
487
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,200
..a race or a religion, rather
than simply illegal and a felon.
488
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,040
I don't speak for the President,
489
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,280
but I can tell you we don't collect
religion, it's not based on race.
490
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,160
It's purely based on whether
or not you have the right to remain
491
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,760
in this country, your nationality,
and if you have immigration status.
492
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,880
There's another illegal immigrant
in the holding room
493
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,920
waiting to be deported later today.
494
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,160
Hi there. Ed. Morning, Ed.
How you doing? Great.
495
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,600
When did you come to the US?
Er...'95.
496
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,440
'95? So, you've been here
for 23 years. Most of my life.
497
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,120
When did you get picked up by ICE?
498
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:09,120
I came to Atlanta
for a friend's wedding,
499
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:13,800
got picked up in Atlanta airport
in August. August this year? Yeah.
500
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,680
Did you think that you'd made it,
that you'd evaded these guys?
501
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,160
This is my country,
it's not evading them.
502
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,960
I wasn't running or hiding
to evade them.
503
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,240
Where are they sending you back to?
To Afghanistan today. Today?
504
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,920
And they fly you to Kabul?
That's the plan, I guess.
505
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,520
And what will you do there? Have you
got networks there, friends, family?
506
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,400
Nothing at all. You know, I've built
a life. I have kids here. Right.
507
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,240
How old are your kids?
One's 13 and one's 10.
508
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,720
And where are they today?
With their mother. Right.
509
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,880
He actually has to go because
his flight leaves in an hour. Right.
510
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,960
So, we've got to get him
on the road.
511
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,960
Good luck. Thank you. So, he didn't
tell you why he was picked up?
512
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280
That's usually the case,
everybody tells you,
513
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,160
"I did nothing wrong." Sure.
But when you go look in their file,
514
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,920
we can tell you that he had
some issues in the past with drugs.
515
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,760
Right. And that's why he came
on the radar of ICE.
516
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,200
Taking them or dealing them?
Dealing them.
517
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,520
When he was leaving here, he was
leaving to go back to San Francisco
518
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,560
with a large amount of money. Right.
519
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,400
It doesn't just come out of nowhere.
520
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,640
It's, again,
targeted enforcement action,
521
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280
where the officers and the agents
are looking at individuals
522
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,880
that may have committed crimes
and need removal.
523
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,520
He was dealing drugs
and he was illegal
524
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,000
and he had an order for removal.
525
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,600
And in the end, I'm afraid,
most people will say,
526
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,640
"I feel really bad about his kids
527
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,080
"and I'm really sad
he's lost his American dream,
528
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,920
"but on that basis,
he was illegal and he blew it."
529
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,360
Now...
530
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,080
..it doesn't take away
the human pain and suffering
531
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,440
for him and his kids.
532
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:53,160
I mean, that's just tragic but on
the other hand, he broke the rules.
533
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,440
Do you feel a bit sorry for him?
534
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,040
I feel sorry for his children,
but it's our job. Yeah, of course.
535
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,320
And having been part of getting
that guy on the road to deportation,
536
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,840
how do you feel about that?
537
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,520
It's wonderful knowing that there is
someone that we were able to arrest
538
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,560
and now the streets are safer.
539
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,120
So, it makes you proud to be
an ICE employee. Absolutely.
540
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,240
The ICE officers are proud.
541
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,880
Their morale has definitely
been boosted over the last year,
542
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,200
since Donald Trump was elected
President.
543
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,840
I agree America does need
a strong stance on immigration
544
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,440
to stop illegals, but my worry is
Trump's rhetoric is making
545
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,680
all migrants feel illegal.
546
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,320
And with this style of politics,
547
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,800
it's hard to see how these
new Americans can ever feel proud.
548
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,760
One historically patriotic group
549
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Trump has shown his support for
is the military.
550
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,000
Past presidents have always stated
they're proud of their Armed Forces,
551
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440
but Trump has gone one step further.
552
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,400
He's convinced Congress to increase
the budget for the military
553
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,080
to $574 billion a year.
554
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:14,240
TRUMP: We celebrate our military
and our amazing veterans as heroes
555
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,480
who deserve our total
and unwavering support.
556
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,360
And I will not stop until our
veterans are properly taken care of.
557
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,800
All Americans deserve accountability
and respect
558
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,720
and that's what we're giving
to our wonderful heroes,
559
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,520
our veterans. Thank you.
560
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,760
APPLAUSE
561
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,200
We're from London.
Oh, yeah, you're a long way off.
562
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,120
We are a long way from home. Did you
serve in the forces? Yeah. Were you?
563
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Where did you serve?
Vietnam. In Vietnam?
564
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,600
What do you think of Donald Trump?
How's he doing?
565
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,040
I think he's doing very well.
Yeah? He don't seem to back down.
566
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,680
He doesn't back down.
567
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,520
There are 20 million former
servicemen and women in the US.
568
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,720
Their votes are crucial
to win the White House.
569
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Trump has allocated $78 billion
a year to these US veterans.
570
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,640
That's nearly $5 billion a year more
than Barack Obama.
571
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,760
They call it a veterans' farm.
572
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,840
I think it's like a retreat
or a camp.
573
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,080
"Marines live here.
574
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,120
"Prayer is the best way
to meet the Lord,
575
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,360
"but trespassing on this property
is faster." Oh, my goodness.
576
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480
I've arranged to visit
the AHERO veterans farm
577
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,400
to see how Trump has tapped
into military pride.
578
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,320
How you doing? Good?
Good to see you, Bill.
579
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,040
Veterans of the Vietnam and
Middle Eastern wars come to AHERO
580
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,600
for weekend support
and bonding sessions.
581
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Bill has the responsibility
of looking after the veterans.
582
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,320
So, a farm... Yes, sir. Does that
mean you're doing farming? No, sir.
583
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760
I actually manage the farm for
the deer and the turkey. Oh, I see.
584
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,600
I bring the veterans out here
585
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,800
and let the veterans experience
the hunt.
586
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Give them guns, ammo,
whatever they need. Oh, I see.
587
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,280
So, people have been arriving today?
Yes, sir.
588
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,160
There are some here already.
We've got one that's a comedian.
589
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,920
We're going on a turkey hunt.
590
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200
HE GOBBLES LIKE A TURKEY
591
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,080
Good job these guys aren't armed
or they'd have taken you out.
592
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,120
They'd have thought
that was a turkey.
593
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,760
We hadn't even started drinking yet!
594
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000
LAUGHTER
595
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
My brother is here also. Right.
He's putting out rumours already.
596
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Something about Gangnam Style.
Right.
597
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240
I've no idea what that means,
but he's been talking about it.
598
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,640
Has he? Yes, sir.
599
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,160
He met some general, I think,
from your country. Did he? Yeah.
600
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,840
The issue is, has he seen the video?
I thought we'd get the real thing.
601
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,960
How do you go from politics
to frigging dancing?
602
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,680
That is an extremely good question.
603
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,560
You could say how do you go from
being the boss on The Apprentice
604
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,440
to being
President of the United States?
605
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,200
I mean, there are some funny things
going on in the world. Yes, true.
606
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,960
I'm going to take these guys
right now.
607
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,240
We're going to go play
with some birds. Good.
608
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240
I don't know if you wear a hat.
I'll wear a hat.
609
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760
We'll present you one anyway.
Thank you. AHERO hat. Yes, sir.
610
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080
While some of the group head out
to hunt for dinner...
611
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,440
BIRD CALLS
612
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,200
GUNSHOT
613
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,880
You need to collect firewood for...?
614
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,600
We're going to build a fire tonight.
That's great.
615
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,160
..I want to speak to the rest
616
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,080
to try to understand
why they all support Trump.
617
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800
It's a really chunky bridge,
isn't it? It is.
618
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,440
This is probably steel from when
steel was American steel, right?
619
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,960
Right. Yeah. Where's it at, buddy?
It's printed here somewhere. Here.
620
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440
"Tennessee steel, USA."
621
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Before becoming President,
Trump actively criticised
622
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200
the American military's involvement
in foreign conflicts.
623
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520
Can I ask you
about the military thing?
624
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,280
Donald Trump has said he's going
to put a lot more money in
625
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,640
cos he wants to restore pride
in the military.
626
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Does he support military operations
overseas?
627
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360
He used to criticise them
pretty heavily. Right, right.
628
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,160
He gets to be president,
bang, 180 degrees.
629
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,280
If he said, "Hey, pick up a weapon
630
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,880
"and follow me
into the mouth of hell,"
631
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,120
he obviously thinks we can win,
I'm going, you know.
632
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
This is kind of
one of the first presidents
633
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,840
that is actually really proud of
his military, so I give Trump that.
634
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,640
It's interesting that this guy,
635
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,280
who's never been
anywhere near military service,
636
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,200
has actually boosted pride
in the US military.
637
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200
It's just an appreciation thing.
I don't think it matters
638
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,080
whether or not you've ever
personally been in uniform or not.
639
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,360
I'm just trying to think, it could
be he's a good politician
640
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360
and he thinks veterans
have got lots of votes.
641
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,440
It could be that he's a real patriot
and he backs veterans more
642
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,680
because he's more proud
of our military.
643
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,800
I'm just try to understand
which one it is.
644
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
TURKEYS GOBBLE
Did you hear them? What?
645
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,360
Turkeys, way off in the distance.
646
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960
For a second, I thought you were
saying it's the President.
647
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,720
No, he's...
LAUGHTER
648
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Him and Tom Sawyer,
him and Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn,
649
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,720
they're all right back there.
LAUGHTER
650
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,200
I wonder whether Trump's support
for the military is another sign
651
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400
of divisive politics,
652
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,840
a way of showing
it's America first,
653
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520
and maybe America versus
the rest of the world.
654
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,440
I see a huge sense of patriotism
and nationalism in our country.
655
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,520
Amongst veterans? Yes.
656
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,720
People feel that veterans are
at the forefront of care now.
657
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,800
But hasn't every president always
talked about the importance
658
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,120
of supporting veterans? Key word.
They've always talked about it.
659
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,920
And you think there's been
more action? Oh yes, absolutely.
660
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,760
So you got some turkeys!
Look at this beautiful animal.
661
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,040
This is why we come up here, buddy.
I think it's a beautiful ex-animal.
662
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,880
Isn't it?
663
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,200
But the beautiful thing about this
animal is we're all going to eat it.
664
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,520
OK.
665
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,560
And we're going to enjoy eating it.
666
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Did you fire the shot?
667
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Do you want me to lie?
We just took it off the thing, man.
668
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,480
Oh, it's that one!
ED LAUGHS
669
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,960
Trump has signed an executive order
670
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,280
to guarantee that all veterans
receive health care
671
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,240
paid for by the government,
672
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,640
with a remit to help
mental health issues.
673
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,960
In the US, 20 veterans a day
take their own lives.
674
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,480
I want to find out
from former Sergeant, John Jackson,
675
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,080
what scars, physically and mentally,
these guys are carrying.
676
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,400
You know, you have AHERO here.
677
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200
You'll see some guys in wheelchairs
and then you'll see other guys
678
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,720
who just appear
as though they're OK.
679
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:33,320
And how about your mental health,
680
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,480
in the sense of your wellbeing
of who you are?
681
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,080
You come out of war, right,
682
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,920
and you're trying to find out
who your new self is.
683
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,360
All of a sudden,
it's like what do you do?
684
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
I was at a point in my life
where I was so depressed,
685
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,800
I almost committed suicide. Right.
686
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,080
And had it not been for my kid...
687
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:54,280
How did that happen?
Just, I was severely depressed.
688
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,960
Everything, my life, military,
you know,
689
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,520
all the struggles came
and hit me at one time
690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,680
and really put me in a bad spot.
691
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,800
Do you relive that day? Every day.
692
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,480
The thing I remember about that day
was watching my last sunset. Right.
693
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000
And I was watching it
hitting the tree line
694
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,280
and I had my gun on my lap, and just
watching the sunset go down,
695
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,280
I probably was 15 minutes out,
you know, and...
696
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,880
And, you know, my son walked in
and so it was...
697
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,880
He kind of derailed me from that,
and I'm talking to you today.
698
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,880
Did he know that he saved
your life? He doesn't.
699
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,040
Are you going to tell him one day?
Yes.
700
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,320
Normally, you think, as a parent,
you gave THEM life. Yeah.
701
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,560
But actually, your son...
Gave me life, gave me my life back.
702
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,000
Amazing thing to have done.
703
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,560
And what's the road been like
since that day? It's been beautiful.
704
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,320
It's been hard work. It's been...
705
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,560
I mean, I learned so much more about
myself in this whole experience
706
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520
of moving forward
and everything like that.
707
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,480
It's just been
a phenomenal experience.
708
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,160
I just want to make sure
that I leave a legacy for my kids
709
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,400
in a way that,
that's truly positive,
710
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,200
and that they can give back
to America.
711
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,240
Do you mind if I put my hand on your
chair? Is it rude? Not at all.
712
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,080
I just want to be careful.
Not at all.
713
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,800
I'm going to turn that off
so we don't run into the fire.
714
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,560
How many years' service did you do?
26 and a half years in the military.
715
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,240
I decided that it was time
for me to retire. Right.
716
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:34,040
I had a month and a half of leave,
which is vacation.
717
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,440
My first day of leave,
I went on a canoeing trip
718
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560
down a lazy river with my brother
and some friends of mine.
719
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,400
I slipped and fell upside down
in three foot of water
720
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,520
and shattered my C6 vertebra
in three foot of water. Oh, my God.
721
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,920
On my first day of leave.
722
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,000
So, after 26 years of doing
dangerous things... Correct.
723
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,480
That is...
That is like the baddest bad luck.
724
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Amongst the people you speak to,
the people who need support,
725
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,760
veterans more widely,
726
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,160
my guess is that lots of them voted
for the President, President Trump.
727
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,840
Yes. I did.
728
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,440
When he said a year ago,
729
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,360
"I want to restore pride in the
military and pride in America..."
730
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,880
And he has already. Has he?
731
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,360
Cos I still have friends
that are still serving
732
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,800
and they're actually getting
the funding that they need
733
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,520
for certain equipment,
734
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:27,120
they are getting the training time
that they need.
735
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480
We needed a businessman
736
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,400
to lead our country
out of a recession,
737
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,680
out of the red into the green.
Is money the most important thing?
738
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,160
No, it isn't. It's about allowing us
to do our job. Right.
739
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,400
And I can guarantee you
he is allowing that.
740
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,400
And how about veterans?
741
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,840
They believe the same thing.
742
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,320
Can I thank you all
for your huge generosity
743
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:00,000
in allowing me to come and spend
this time with you?
744
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Could I toast to family
and friendship?
745
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,680
ALL: Cheers.
746
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,920
Dilly-dilly. I love Scotch.
747
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,800
This is beautiful Scotch.
This is decent whisky.
748
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,280
All right, here's to lying,
cheating, stealing and drinking.
749
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,520
If you're going to lie,
lie for your friends.
750
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,800
If you're going to cheat,
cheat death.
751
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,880
If you're going to steal,
steal a kiss from a beautiful woman.
752
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,400
But if you're going to drink,
753
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960
drink for our boys
that are still overseas.
754
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,600
Drink bourbon.
755
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,960
We do a commemoration to the ones
that we've lost, personally,
756
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,160
and the ones that we haven't.
757
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Everybody does a little tip
to the ground. We toast to them.
758
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,640
Even if you're not military
759
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,000
but you have somebody important
who lost their life,
760
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,840
can you do that as well?
Absolutely. OK.
761
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,720
All right, gentlemen.
I'll start it off.
762
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,960
Gerard Saunier, US Air Force.
763
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,000
He was my... He was my radio man.
764
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,720
Gerry. ALL: Gerry.
765
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,520
Jesse Reid, roommate,
United States Marine Corps.
766
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,240
Down at the National River, jumped
off the bridge last Wednesday.
767
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,240
Kyle Comfort.
768
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:11,440
75th Rangers Regiment,
died May 8th, 2010, in Afghanistan.
769
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,800
An awesome brother and one
of which I've named a farm after,
770
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,840
Comfort Farms.
771
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,960
ALL: Cheers. Comfort Farm.
772
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Anybody else? I will.
773
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,600
My next-door neighbour as
a Member of Parliament lost her life
774
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,040
a year and a half ago.
775
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,080
She was called Jo Cox.
776
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,840
She was a Member of Parliament
and while she was doing her job,
777
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080
representing people, she was shot
and killed in the street.
778
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,240
To Jo Cox. Jo Cox.
779
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,800
All these guys I've talked to today,
I think have voted for Donald Trump.
780
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,600
They think that he is, a year on,
doing a good job.
781
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,640
And I think if Trump is keeping
his promises to these guys,
782
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,560
they're going to continue
to back him.
783
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,800
Bill, thank you so much
for letting me come and visit.
784
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,040
We really appreciate it.
Cheers, John.
785
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,480
Hey, great man, thank you.
Cheers, buddy.
786
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Cheers, Brian. Appreciate it.
We going to hug? Ah, friend.
787
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,200
Good. Thanks again, man. See you
all. Cheers. Thank you, sir.
788
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,480
It's funny, it's ended up
making me very emotional.
789
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,160
Talking about the pain
of transition,
790
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,840
how hard it had been for them
and the loss of purpose,
791
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,480
I was thinking of my own experience,
792
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,320
and I didn't raise it.
793
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,680
I thought, "I've had it easy."
794
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,760
My son had to see me lose
my constituency on television,
795
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,920
but John, his son almost had to see
him take his own life.
796
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,920
That is such a dark thing for a...
797
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,320
..parent to have to think about.
I think that's really hard.
798
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,560
HE SNIFFS
799
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,800
In my last political election,
800
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,040
I wasn't able to win the support
of the majority of voters.
801
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,520
But somehow,
despite all the scandals,
802
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,960
Trump has persuaded many in America
803
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,400
that he's the right man to be
President, to make America proud.
804
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,200
So, how did he learn to connect
with the American masses?
805
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,400
How am I doing
on Fan Appreciation Night?
806
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,760
They want value. Who knows more
about value than me?
807
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,640
These clips of Trump,
808
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,680
from the extravaganza
of WWE wrestling from 2007,
809
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,120
show him dropping money
onto the crowd.
810
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Trump adopted a wrestling persona
811
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,120
that looks a lot like his style
as President to me.
812
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,400
As he demonstrates
winning over a crowd
813
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,880
with promises of making them rich...
814
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,720
Oh, my God.
815
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:01,880
..and the use of macho actions.
816
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,440
And even a year into his presidency,
he's still doing this,
817
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,040
whether against his enemies overseas
or at home.
818
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,200
There's this tweet
Donald Trump put out.
819
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,000
Trump is always picking fights
on Twitter and this one was
820
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,360
with the former Vice President
of America, Joe Biden.
821
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,840
It's had 245,000 likes,
it has a big, big audience.
822
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,720
"Crazy Joe Biden is trying to act
like a tough guy.
823
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:31,400
"Actually, he is weak,
both mentally and physically,
824
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,200
"and yet he threatens me for the
second time with physical assault.
825
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,640
"He doesn't know me,
but he would go down fast and hard,
826
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,800
"crying all the way."
827
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,440
It's the language
of the wrestling ring.
828
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,880
But you don't say that
if you're the President. Dear me.
829
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,800
It's macho and divisive
and childish and ridiculous.
830
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,440
It's something which works
fabulously well
831
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,000
in the reality TV show
of WWE wrestling,
832
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,120
and it is a crazy way
to behave as President.
833
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,360
Wrestling is an all-American sport
834
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,200
that appeals to millions of viewers
each week.
835
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,240
I think Trump saw that
the same rhetoric could also appeal
836
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:16,960
to millions of voters.
837
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:23,000
I've travelled to Munford, Alabama,
to visit Southern Legacy Wrestling.
838
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:28,280
It's run by Trump voter and former
WWE star Johnny Slaughter.
839
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120
I'm told it's his real name.
840
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,360
Johnny, hello, how are you?
Good to meet you.
841
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,480
Good to meet you too.
So, this is your gym?
842
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,040
It's the City's, but they allow us
to use it. OK. Come on in.
843
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,360
Oh, wow!
844
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,360
This is a proper ring.
This is the set-up. Hey, fellas!
845
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,640
How many people come to your events?
Typically, we get about 350.
846
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Hoping to have this place packed
and then some.
847
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,480
This is like the ones
I've seen on TV, the WWE show? Yes.
848
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,960
Is it quite noisy in here?
849
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:01,800
LOUD BODY-SLAM
850
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,920
Blimey! We used to have wrestling
on our television. Yes.
851
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,120
There was a guy called
Giant Haystacks and Big Daddy
852
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,760
and I think it was, you know,
a performance. Yes.
853
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,800
Although, when I was eight years
old, we all believed it was true.
854
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,360
In wrestling, you have a character,
855
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,360
and usually your character is
you amplified.
856
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,680
The thing is, I was watching the way
in which Donald Trump talks
857
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,960
as President. It's all kind of
the language of WWE. I agree.
858
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,600
It's him.
I think what he says he means,
859
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,840
but he turns the volume way up.
860
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,440
AS TRUMP: Let me tell you something
tonight, Kim Jong-un,
861
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,560
I'm going to come over there and
lay the smack down. That's the vibe.
862
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,560
You see how well in wrestling,
863
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,680
when people respond to you
and like you,
864
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,640
and when you want them to cheer,
they cheer,
865
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,960
when you want them to boo,
that's called getting over.
866
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,080
So, you'll get a lot of feedback
off people,
867
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,640
but it's very physical,
so you have to be careful.
868
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,200
So, for example, my first match,
I jumped off the top rope.
869
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,600
I'd never done that
and I landed like this
870
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,480
and my elbow snapped in half
871
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,280
and my hand said...and hit me
in the face. It hurt a lot.
872
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,200
I was going to ask,
do you get hurt doing this,
873
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,360
but that's the first time. The only
major injury I had was that one.
874
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,800
Well, I'm looking forward
to seeing you doing some wrestling.
875
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaking of which, we actually have
an opening on the show.
876
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,280
I didn't know
if you might be interested
877
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,840
in being part of the event. Oh...
878
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,240
I think that might be a bad idea.
879
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,720
Let me go show you the gym. Fuck...
880
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,480
Yeah, very good.
881
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,280
I'm actually seeing stars.
THEY LAUGH
882
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,120
I've not seen stars
for long time.
883
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,800
Welcome to wrestling!
884
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,560
I came here to find out
whether Trump's foray into wrestling
885
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,640
was just a practice for his run
for the White House.
886
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,640
Do you want to try it without
the mat? Does it hurt more? It does.
887
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,840
Yeah!
APPLAUSE
888
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,200
But now I'm in the ring with a bunch
of seasoned professionals
889
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,440
learning to wrestle myself.
890
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,520
The hardest things you may take
may be a jab, sell it one time,
891
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520
a jab, maybe one more,
892
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,440
give you a big wind-up,
salute the flag,
893
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,160
one of these, boom.
894
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,600
The actual punching bit, does it
hit you? Take your helmet off.
895
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,120
Take it off?
Yeah. What would I do that for?
896
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,840
When you go to the face,
you lighten it up.
897
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,840
And it becomes more showman.
898
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Now, if you don't like each other,
you knock the crap
899
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,880
out of each other, then you get in
the back and go, "Sorry about that."
900
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,800
Can I just say, I like you very,
very much. I like you very much.
901
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,040
So, it comes in
and it feels like this. Oh!
902
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,560
APPLAUSE
903
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,000
Very good. That was a great sell.
904
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,880
That was a good sell.
You've got to watch the ropes.
905
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,520
It really hurts.
906
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,600
LAUGHTER
907
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Although this is fake,
908
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,560
it's amazing to think the crowd
would believe it's real.
909
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,400
In the one we're doing...
Yes. ..am I a good guy or bad guy?
910
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,840
I think it would be easier
to make you a bad guy. Really? Yes.
911
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,360
It does not take much
to make people hate you.
912
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,760
A lot of times, it's as simple...
I had 20 years of that.
913
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Well, it's really as simple
as just a look...
914
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,680
..and they already hate you. Right.
915
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,920
And so, with patriotism
and American pride,
916
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
it can be a curse or a blessing.
917
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,840
It's easier for you
to come out as the outsider.
918
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Am I a foreigner? Yes!
919
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,880
Like the smell of this place just
bothers you. Oh, God, you people.
920
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,000
I want you thinking it
as you walk out.
921
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,320
Now then,
why are you wearing a dress?
922
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,000
I'm wrestling him tomorrow, right?
Yes, you and him, you and him.
923
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,480
We don't make it personal.
That's how you get stabbed.
924
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,480
I've been stabbed three times.
Stabbed?
925
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,400
Stabbed three times.
By audience members? Yes.
926
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,960
Who believed your show?
927
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,200
One of the last times
I got stabbed was on 9/11.
928
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,680
When the towers came down,
there was a show that night
929
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,920
and I came out as a Russian,
and down with the USA,
930
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,080
and so, when I came out of the ring,
I landed on a rail like this
931
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,760
and I was laying there,
and this guy said, "For America!"
932
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,680
And he stabbed me right in the back.
933
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,680
So you want me to be the bad guy...
Yes.
934
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,280
..who everybody's going to want
to... Absolutely. ..attack.
935
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,760
Yes, but they won't. I could be
from Russia, China, North Korea...
936
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,440
It doesn't matter. ..Europe,
Britain, it makes no difference.
937
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Right. I'm just a dirty foreigner.
938
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Cos you're not American,
you're a dirty foreigner.
939
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Are we talking seriously there
about the wrestling
940
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,840
or are we talking about American
politics? Bit of both.
941
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,000
I thought maybe so.
I thought maybe that's right.
942
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,840
I find that the lines blur
between politics and wrestling.
943
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,280
It's really, to me,
the stories are no difference.
944
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,120
You pick one side or the other.
945
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Some people like the good guy,
some guys like the bad guys.
946
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,400
Cos most people here have voted
for Donald Trump?
947
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,000
I believe so, yes.
948
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,240
What was it in the county
or the state, do you know?
949
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,880
I think in the county,
last time the stats came out,
950
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,400
it was like 98% was pro-Trump. 98%.
951
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,640
So, if I'm the dirty foreigner,
if I say,
952
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,680
"How did you elect this loser
as your President, Donald Trump?"
953
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Yes, you can blast Trump
all you want to.
954
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,680
These people will probably
hate you more.
955
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,520
And you promise me
I will get out alive? Yes.
956
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,760
Yes, we've got great security. OK.
957
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,280
I'm going to kiss your sorry
American arse, you baby-faced fool.
958
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,480
LAUGHTER
959
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,120
I'm just trying to find a character.
960
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,160
AMERICAN ACCENT: Listen here, boy,
I'm not going to kiss your ass,
961
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
I'm going to KICK your ass!
LAUGHTER
962
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,880
What keeps happening?
963
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,320
You've hung out with all
these Southern boys way too long.
964
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,720
AMERICAN ACCENT: I've got to stop
being American...
965
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:12,400
POSH ENGLISH ACCENT: ..and become
an English gentleman.
966
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,040
Actually, that's camp.
967
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,840
How were you perceived
when you were in politics?
968
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Bruiser. There you go.
I like the British Bruiser.
969
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,600
It's clear patriotism and pride
is key to the success of Trump,
970
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,720
but also to a wrestling character.
971
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,840
We went with the British theme.
972
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,320
I've got you a custom-made singlet,
just for you. That's a swimsuit.
973
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,600
But this isn't what I had in mind
for British pride.
974
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Oh, my God.
Am I really going to wear that?
975
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,720
Well, if you want to look like
a wrestler, this would be perfect.
976
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:45,880
I suppose if you're going
to body-slam somebody,
977
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,920
you might as will do it in costume.
That's right.
978
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,800
I'm just going to FaceTime Yvette
back in the UK.
979
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,520
I tend to ring to ask her advice
at key moments in life.
980
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,680
Yvette. Oh, my God!
981
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,240
What on...? Can you see, Yvette?
982
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,560
Excuse me, can you just hold
my phone for one sec?
983
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,440
I'm the British Bruiser.
984
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,920
There's something about the flag bit
985
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,080
which just accentuates your belly.
986
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,720
Oh, Yvette... Sorry.
987
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:15,560
Well, I think it's quite important
988
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,440
for the integrity
of my investigation
989
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,800
that I wear a leotard.
990
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,360
Do you remember how we talked about
lines that you might cross?
991
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,080
I think you've crossed one.
992
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,600
Don't get hurt.
993
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,400
That was the least supportive
phone call I've ever had.
994
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,680
There are over 400 people
at the venue for tonight's event.
995
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Go in there and hit the gym
a little bit and get pumped up
996
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,200
right before you go out.
997
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Or maybe a couple of Big Macs
and a couple of beers?
998
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,840
But I've only managed to find two
who don't support Trump,
999
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,680
and both are part
of the wrestling show.
1000
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,760
Out there right now, I would say
it's 99%... Is that right?
1001
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,800
99% of people voted for Trump?
I believe so, yeah.
1002
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,840
And what do you think about Trump?
1003
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:06,120
He's an idiot. The thing
which is really interesting to me
1004
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,520
is Trump is like a wrestling guy
in the ring.
1005
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,200
You know, I'm the man,
my opponents are evil.
1006
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,240
If you're not on my side,
you're a bad guy. I know.
1007
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,280
That good and bad contrast is
so strong in wrestling.
1008
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,840
Yep, but here's the thing.
We are just playing. Right.
1009
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,240
We are just playing a part.
You are proud to be Southern. Yes.
1010
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,080
And when Donald Trump says,
1011
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,000
"I'm going to make America
proud again," what do you think?
1012
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,360
He just needs to shut his mouth
1013
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,000
and I just hope he doesn't get
voted for again.
1014
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000
He has no clue
what he's talking about.
1015
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
He's making himself proud.
1016
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,200
He's making himself money,
that's all it is to me.
1017
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,040
No more Mr Nice Guy.
1018
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,640
It's time for me to see if I can
turn this American crowd against me.
1019
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,080
I'm dialling up the arrogant Brit.
1020
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960
SOUND SYSTEM: # Rule Britannia
1021
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:03,200
# Britannia rules the waves
1022
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,480
# Britain never, never, never
Shall be slaves... #
1023
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,120
The British Bruiser...
1024
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,560
BOOING
1025
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,880
..Ed Balls!
1026
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,440
BOOING
1027
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Do you mind piping down a bit?
1028
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,520
Are you Americans always so rude
1029
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,400
and disrespectful
to a visitor from England?
1030
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Do you know what?
1031
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:35,680
You have the rudest president
we've ever seen.
1032
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,200
Did you guys really vote
for Donald Trump?
1033
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,760
THEY CHANT: USA! USA!
1034
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,480
I think we should play
the proper national anthem.
1035
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,560
# God save our gracious Queen
1036
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,840
# Long live our noble Queen
1037
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,720
# God save the Queen... #
THEY CHANT: USA! USA!
1038
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:05,360
VOICEOVER: It's clear
that nationalism and pride
1039
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,000
are alive and well
in Munford, Alabama.
1040
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,160
THEY CHANT: USA! USA! USA!
1041
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,760
Time for the American heroes
Johnny Slaughter and Major Victory
1042
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,760
to save the day
against the enemy outsiders.
1043
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,640
APPLAUSE
1044
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,240
BOOING
1045
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,000
LOUD BOOING
1046
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:40,720
Be a man!
1047
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,400
Ow!
1048
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,040
I can't believe I'm actually
pretending to be a wrestler
1049
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,160
but in the ring, it's easy to see
1050
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,080
how the crowd takes sides
with the patriots.
1051
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,920
BOOING
1052
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,040
BOOING
1053
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,480
This nationalistic mob mentality
demonstrates
1054
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,280
how Trump runs the White House -
them against us.
1055
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,760
Whether at home, where it's Trump
versus "Crooked Hillary",
1056
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,440
or in foreign policy,
1057
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,440
Trump's America versus
the untrustworthy Iranian regime.
1058
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:33,920
CHEERING
1059
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,400
Two, three...
CHEERING
1060
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,120
Sticking to our script,
America wins.
1061
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,040
Oh, my gosh! That
is really physical.
1062
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,680
Are you ready to do it again?
1063
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,320
I'd do it again like a shot.
There you go.
1064
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,120
Can we go and do it again?
1065
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,800
When you get home, change into that
right before you go in the house.
1066
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,280
I'll be threatening to wear it
on the beach. Please do, please do.
1067
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,720
Are you sure? Yes.
Thank you so much.
1068
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:14,200
Have you ever had a USA chant
like that before?
1069
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,000
Once or twice. Not that visceral
though. It was really visceral.
1070
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,200
We painted you
exactly what we needed you to be
1071
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,040
and they bought it
hook, line and sinker.
1072
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,520
Kind of simultaneously,
1073
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,560
it shows how brilliant and clever
the way in which you manipulate is.
1074
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,640
Yes, so I create a desire that they
want to see you get beat up. Yeah.
1075
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,360
And then I can give that to them,
and that's when they respond.
1076
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,320
So it's all about creating
the enemy. Yes.
1077
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,920
You can't be good without bad.
1078
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,760
And actually, you can see why,
at Donald Trump rallies,
1079
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,240
he's so good at it,
cos he does the same thing.
1080
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,320
He defines the enemies
and then they chant really loud.
1081
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,280
Cos if it ain't us against them,
then it's not USA.
1082
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,600
It's skilful. Yes.
1083
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,680
In here it's fun. Yes.
But in the political arena...
1084
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,080
It's sad. It's dangerous. Yes.
1085
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,840
Whipping up the crowd against North
Korea, China, Europe, politics...
1086
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Yeah, if it works...
Ask me again in three years.
1087
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,200
It's not the style I would use,
1088
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,600
but ask me again in three years,
I'll tell you if it works.
1089
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Does any part of you,
when you see him still doing this,
1090
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,760
regret having supported him?
1091
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,920
No, and the main reason is,
1092
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,640
the people you want to be president
never run.
1093
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,760
The people you think
could actually fix this place
1094
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,400
have no desire to be president
1095
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,800
and out of the people
that do run here...
1096
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,320
..isn't it sad that that was
the best choice? Yeah.
1097
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,280
But again, if you're playing
a character
1098
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,040
and the character got
to the White House,
1099
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,800
you'd better stay in the character
if you want to keep the White House,
at least for one more term.
1100
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,440
Is the best way to get re-elected
to carry on like that?
1101
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,880
He needs to dial it back.
Yeah, he needs to dial it back.
1102
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,360
He needs to dial it back just a bit.
1103
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,480
I'm waiting for him to come out
to his own theme music and pyro.
1104
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,760
Good to see you.
Good to see you, thank you.
1105
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,760
Cheers, John. Cheers.
See you all. See you.
1106
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,480
Donald Trump said
in his inauguration speech
1107
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,280
that he was going to make
America proud again,
1108
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,840
and for a lot of the people
that I've met on the trip,
1109
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,720
at the redneck festival,
he's done that.
1110
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:14,000
He's definitely made the military
and the veterans feel
1111
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,000
that he's on their side,
more resources,
1112
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,480
but also a rhetoric which says,
1113
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,480
"I'm backing you,
I'm getting the job done."
1114
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,280
The danger is that,
1115
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,360
if you don't understand
the difference
1116
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,200
between the wrestling ring
and real life,
1117
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,640
if you can whip a crowd,
chanting "USA, USA",
1118
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,000
good versus bad,
simplicities in an arena,
1119
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,360
that can lead
to a very divisive politics,
1120
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,200
not just here in America,
1121
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,840
but in America's relationship
with the world.
1122
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,160
I think Donald Trump is playing
with fire.
1123
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,000
ED SCREAMS
1124
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,360
TRUMP: We will make America
safe again.
1125
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,600
This American carnage stops
right here, right now.
1126
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,480
I wish I could do that.
1127
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,880
I want to find out if Trump
is fulfilling his promise
1128
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,440
to make America safe again.
1129
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,320
She's like,
"There's been a shooting."
1130
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,640
I said, "Where?"
"At school. Samantha's been shot."
1131
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,440
If he decides to actually
restrict firearms,
1132
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,320
he will be a one-term president.
1133
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,080
We will kill to stop people
from taking our guns.
1134
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Fundamentally, I think this society
1135
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,400
is absolutely
totally screwed-up on guns.
1136
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,040
It's a catastrophe.
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