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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:15,432 --> 00:00:17,642 (contemplative music playing) 4 00:00:18,893 --> 00:00:21,104 (film projector rattling) 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,817 Johnny Carson: We have a very lovely gal with us tonight. 6 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:27,527 She's considered the number-one model 7 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:29,904 in what they call "ultra-high fashion." 8 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:31,823 Welcome Miss Danielle Luna. 9 00:00:31,865 --> 00:00:33,742 (applause) 10 00:00:40,331 --> 00:00:43,501 Uh, this is, uh, Danielle Luna, who is, uh-- 11 00:00:43,585 --> 00:00:46,546 -Donyale. -Johnny: Dan-- Donyale. Donyale. I'm sorry. 12 00:00:46,629 --> 00:00:48,923 She's one of the highest-paid fashion models, 13 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:51,885 uh, in the business. 14 00:00:51,968 --> 00:00:54,637 Could you give me an idea of, uh, something you-you might do? 15 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:57,432 Uh, suppose we took a close-up and I wanted a, uh-- 16 00:00:57,515 --> 00:01:00,268 -Um, let's see. -I'm not good at this type of stuff. 17 00:01:00,352 --> 00:01:02,437 -Uh, I'll give you the Luna look. -Alrighty. 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,149 Donyale Luna: You go like this. 19 00:01:11,946 --> 00:01:14,574 (laughter and applause) 20 00:01:14,657 --> 00:01:17,202 (peaceful music playing) 21 00:01:19,371 --> 00:01:21,164 Pat Cleveland: Donyale Luna, 22 00:01:21,206 --> 00:01:24,125 she was, like, something ethereal. 23 00:01:24,209 --> 00:01:26,169 If she walked into this room right now, 24 00:01:26,211 --> 00:01:29,089 the whole place would just-- it would float. 25 00:01:29,798 --> 00:01:32,717 Speaker: I think some people thought that she was 26 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:34,426 from another planet. 27 00:01:34,511 --> 00:01:37,597 She did not look like any human being 28 00:01:37,681 --> 00:01:39,015 I had ever seen or met. 29 00:01:39,057 --> 00:01:41,893 Constance White: She was in London. She was in Paris. 30 00:01:41,976 --> 00:01:43,728 She was in Italy. 31 00:01:43,812 --> 00:01:47,732 She was the first Black woman to be on the cover of "Vogue." 32 00:01:48,441 --> 00:01:52,570 But strangely enough, we've totally forgotten about her. 33 00:01:52,654 --> 00:01:55,073 My understanding of the first Black woman 34 00:01:55,156 --> 00:01:58,410 to cover a "Vogue" magazine was Beverly Johnson. 35 00:01:58,493 --> 00:02:01,162 And what was weird is, somebody who had been 36 00:02:01,246 --> 00:02:03,873 a model manager for the last 25 years, 37 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:06,251 I didn't know who Donyale Luna was. 38 00:02:06,334 --> 00:02:09,169 I never heard of Donyale Luna. 39 00:02:09,753 --> 00:02:15,385 Omar K. Boone: She was the first Black supermodel in the world. 40 00:02:15,427 --> 00:02:17,637 People should know who she is. 41 00:02:17,721 --> 00:02:20,932 Speaker 1: Why don't we know more about her? 42 00:02:20,974 --> 00:02:22,726 Speaker 2: They always said to her, 43 00:02:22,767 --> 00:02:25,728 "Where are you from?" 44 00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:31,317 And she'd always say, "My name is Luna. 45 00:02:31,401 --> 00:02:33,945 I'm from the moon." 46 00:02:41,286 --> 00:02:42,954 (birds calling) 47 00:02:42,996 --> 00:02:45,290 (bell tolling) 48 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:51,129 (projector rattling) 49 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:54,257 Dream Cazzaniga: Growing up in Italy, 50 00:02:54,299 --> 00:02:57,552 I remember seeing the moon. 51 00:02:58,845 --> 00:03:00,972 My nanny was telling me, 52 00:03:01,056 --> 00:03:06,561 "Oh, look, uh, that's your mom looking upon you from the sky." 53 00:03:09,814 --> 00:03:11,649 I never doubted that. 54 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:14,402 Whenever I was looking at the moon, 55 00:03:14,486 --> 00:03:17,822 I thought that was my blessing from her. 56 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:31,378 When my mom passed away, I was, uh, 18 months old. 57 00:03:33,463 --> 00:03:38,301 And my grandparents raised me after she passed. 58 00:03:39,969 --> 00:03:43,848 They told me she passed because of a, a heart condition, 59 00:03:43,932 --> 00:03:46,142 but growing up, 60 00:03:46,184 --> 00:03:50,438 the subject of my mom was kind of a taboo in the house. 61 00:03:50,522 --> 00:03:54,984 So, I didn't really know what was the truth. 62 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:57,737 When a child is that little, 63 00:03:57,821 --> 00:04:01,199 when I was that little, I needed her. 64 00:04:01,991 --> 00:04:06,204 It's very hard to understand that you matter to someone 65 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:09,040 if you don't have any memories with her 66 00:04:09,124 --> 00:04:14,045 and if there is, uh, basically, no one helping you build 67 00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:17,507 the picture of her and you together. 68 00:04:19,466 --> 00:04:22,595 These are some of my mom's writings. 69 00:04:22,679 --> 00:04:28,643 She writes about her friends, about my father, about me. 70 00:04:28,727 --> 00:04:34,941 And there's so many interesting stories that tell me who she was. 71 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:42,699 (wind whistling) 72 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:44,284 "Once upon a time, 73 00:04:44,367 --> 00:04:46,077 "a little colored girl 74 00:04:46,161 --> 00:04:48,913 "was born inside a goddess. 75 00:04:48,997 --> 00:04:53,668 "With a heart made of dreams and a mind made of love, 76 00:04:53,752 --> 00:04:56,046 "she took her long, skinny legs 77 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:59,049 "and came into this world, Earth. 78 00:05:00,925 --> 00:05:03,470 Oh, Lord, yes, she did." 79 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:23,948 Omar: Donyale Luna was just a girl from Detroit, 80 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:28,119 and her real name was Peggy Ann Freeman. 81 00:05:28,203 --> 00:05:29,454 Yeah, I'd call her by her real name. 82 00:05:29,537 --> 00:05:31,873 I'd say, "Peggy!" 83 00:05:31,956 --> 00:05:33,457 (laughs) 84 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:35,377 And she'd crack up. 85 00:05:38,963 --> 00:05:42,300 Lillian Washington: Okay. Let me put these pictures up. 86 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:45,011 -So, you gonna-- -Oh, I got a good one. 87 00:05:45,095 --> 00:05:46,554 Oh, let me see. Let me see. 88 00:05:46,638 --> 00:05:49,641 This is the famous Donyale Luna, 89 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:51,643 this is her graduation picture. 90 00:05:51,685 --> 00:05:53,561 Marcella Washington: Wow. How old was she on that picture? 91 00:05:53,645 --> 00:05:55,146 Lillian: She's about 16 or 17 that day. 92 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:57,023 -Marcella: Oh, she graduated early? -Lillian: Yes. 93 00:05:57,107 --> 00:05:58,817 Marcella: Pretty. Very pretty. 94 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:00,568 Lillian: I always called her Little Peggy 95 00:06:00,652 --> 00:06:04,447 'cause that's what Mama named her, after, after Mama. 96 00:06:04,489 --> 00:06:06,658 Big Peggy and Little Peggy. 97 00:06:06,741 --> 00:06:10,412 Okay. Let me see what else is in here. 98 00:06:10,495 --> 00:06:13,373 This is Donyale's mother. 99 00:06:13,456 --> 00:06:16,501 She was gorgeous. 100 00:06:16,584 --> 00:06:20,046 My mama looked like Queen Elizabeth. (chuckles) 101 00:06:20,130 --> 00:06:25,510 I used to say that, and that's where Donyale got a majority of her beauty. 102 00:06:25,552 --> 00:06:29,264 The light complexion she, she got from my mother. 103 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:32,183 But see, my father was quite handsome, too, 104 00:06:32,225 --> 00:06:33,643 even though he were, 105 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:38,690 he were a, a brown skin, caramel-colored Black man, 106 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:41,609 and I had same complexion. 107 00:06:41,693 --> 00:06:45,363 I always felt that I wasn't pretty, you know, as her. 108 00:06:45,447 --> 00:06:48,658 I did-- I never felt that I was pretty. 109 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,666 Our parents were part of the Great Migration 110 00:06:56,707 --> 00:07:00,920 from down south to up north to work. 111 00:07:01,004 --> 00:07:05,300 My mother, she worked at the YWCA for 27 years, 112 00:07:05,383 --> 00:07:09,179 and our father worked at Henry Ford's Motor Company 113 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:10,889 for 37 years. 114 00:07:10,972 --> 00:07:14,392 So, we were very well taken care of. 115 00:07:14,476 --> 00:07:18,563 But, uh, because my mother was very strict, 116 00:07:18,646 --> 00:07:22,859 we were kept from a lotta things that everybody else did normally. 117 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:25,612 We weren't allowed to go roller-skating. 118 00:07:25,695 --> 00:07:28,865 We weren't allowed to have birthday parties. 119 00:07:28,907 --> 00:07:34,079 But Donyale was the bright side of everything. 120 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,706 She didn't let anything keep her down too long. 121 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:39,793 Josephine Armstrong: She knew she wanted to be 122 00:07:39,876 --> 00:07:42,212 something special when she grew up, 123 00:07:42,253 --> 00:07:47,175 that she had something in her mind that she wanted to do with her life. 124 00:07:47,258 --> 00:07:49,844 (rehearsal piano music playing) 125 00:07:49,928 --> 00:07:52,597 She was in this arts group here in Detroit, 126 00:07:52,681 --> 00:07:55,975 and she was in, um, several plays, 127 00:07:56,058 --> 00:07:59,729 and she was the star of a couple of 'em. 128 00:07:59,771 --> 00:08:03,775 She always wanted to be a movie star. 129 00:08:03,817 --> 00:08:06,778 She loved "West Side Story." 130 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:09,072 Anita (sings): ♪ Life can be bright in America ♪ 131 00:08:09,114 --> 00:08:11,199 Boys (sing): ♪ If you can fight in America ♪ 132 00:08:11,282 --> 00:08:13,785 Girls (sing): ♪ Life is alright in America ♪ 133 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:17,122 Boys (sing): ♪ If you're all white in America ♪ 134 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:18,790 (cheering, chattering) 135 00:08:20,291 --> 00:08:25,630 Omar: Here was this incredibly tall, beautiful woman. 136 00:08:25,714 --> 00:08:28,091 I mean, even at that awkward age, 137 00:08:28,133 --> 00:08:29,592 and she was kinda awkward, 138 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:33,471 I always, I always th-thought of her as a gazelle 139 00:08:33,554 --> 00:08:36,057 with the neck that just, like, pshew. 140 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:38,434 What a neck, I mean, I mean, she was unique. 141 00:08:38,476 --> 00:08:40,477 There was no doubt about it. 142 00:08:40,562 --> 00:08:42,731 Lillian: She had a certain charisma, 143 00:08:42,813 --> 00:08:47,652 a certain, uh, aura, a certain style. 144 00:08:47,736 --> 00:08:53,158 But, uh, all the Black fellas thought she was crazy. 145 00:08:54,242 --> 00:08:55,577 They didn't like her. 146 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:59,289 They thought she was skinny and bony. 147 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:01,541 They called her "Olive Oyl." 148 00:09:01,624 --> 00:09:04,544 They hurt her to her core. 149 00:09:04,627 --> 00:09:06,838 (contemplative music playing) 150 00:09:11,426 --> 00:09:16,181 Dream: "No one thought I was beautiful in Detroit. 151 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:21,019 "I was very ashamed of myself, almost paranoid, 152 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:25,440 "always wishing I could look like this person or that. 153 00:09:25,523 --> 00:09:29,152 I wanted to be a typical something." 154 00:09:29,194 --> 00:09:32,864 Announcer: T-minus 60 seconds and counting. 155 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:37,744 Lillian: I think that encouraged her to create her own persona 156 00:09:37,827 --> 00:09:43,083 where she's beautiful and people see her beautiful. 157 00:09:43,165 --> 00:09:45,710 Announcer: Good luck and godspeed. 158 00:09:47,629 --> 00:09:49,714 Lillian: She was in her late teens, 159 00:09:49,798 --> 00:09:55,470 and she created the persona of Donyale Luna. 160 00:09:55,512 --> 00:09:58,306 John Glenn: Oh, that view is tremendous! 161 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:02,060 Lillian: She wrote it and wrote it, 162 00:10:02,143 --> 00:10:04,062 and then she wrote it some more. 163 00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:07,774 And I looked at it, I said, "'Donyale Luna,' that's good." 164 00:10:11,069 --> 00:10:13,780 Then she changed the way she talked. 165 00:10:13,863 --> 00:10:16,116 She created an accent, 166 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:20,120 but she had never been anywhere to get an accent. 167 00:10:21,663 --> 00:10:24,874 I was just wonderin', "Why is she doin' this?" 168 00:10:26,751 --> 00:10:29,754 First the name, Donyale Luna. Is this a real name? 169 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:31,256 Donyale: Yes, it is. 170 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,633 It's part of my name. 171 00:10:33,717 --> 00:10:35,719 My complete name is 172 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Peggy Anna Donyale Cazzaniga Luna Freeman, 173 00:10:40,724 --> 00:10:44,728 but, uh, I just cut it short and use "Donyale Luna." 174 00:10:44,769 --> 00:10:48,940 Interviewer: What sort of, uh, racial mixture do all those names come from? 175 00:10:49,024 --> 00:10:52,902 (sighs) You name it, and it's there. Everything. 176 00:10:52,944 --> 00:10:56,865 It's like a, a melting pot of, say, 177 00:10:56,948 --> 00:11:00,035 different nationalities, different people, everything. 178 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:05,623 My father, the Donyale persona? 179 00:11:05,707 --> 00:11:08,793 (disapprovingly) Mm-mm, mm-mm. 180 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:12,672 "Oh, you don't wanna be Black? You're Black." 181 00:11:13,965 --> 00:11:15,967 She didn't give a damn. 182 00:11:16,051 --> 00:11:19,929 She created a, a new person, a new being. 183 00:11:19,971 --> 00:11:22,307 She says, "I am me." 184 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:31,316 Sanders Bryant: I first met Peggy 185 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:37,113 in 1962 in high school. 186 00:11:37,155 --> 00:11:41,826 One day, she was, uh, kind of by herself, off to herself, 187 00:11:41,868 --> 00:11:47,832 and I sat and joined her for lunch. 188 00:11:47,915 --> 00:11:52,796 She introduced herself as Donyale Luna. 189 00:11:52,837 --> 00:11:55,674 She would say that she was 190 00:11:55,757 --> 00:12:00,178 part... Indian, Spanish, Irish. 191 00:12:00,261 --> 00:12:04,015 She'd just go down the list of nationalities 192 00:12:04,099 --> 00:12:07,560 and claimed to be a part of them. 193 00:12:07,644 --> 00:12:11,856 So, her persona kind of developed, 194 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:17,987 but this was, definitely... an escape. 195 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:24,619 Her mother and father had been apart 196 00:12:24,703 --> 00:12:28,039 and remarried three or four times. 197 00:12:28,123 --> 00:12:30,917 I heard he could get belligerent 198 00:12:31,001 --> 00:12:35,130 and, uh... uh, physical. 199 00:12:36,715 --> 00:12:38,758 But Donyale, 200 00:12:38,842 --> 00:12:44,222 if anything serious was to be discussed, 201 00:12:44,264 --> 00:12:47,767 she wanted to change the subject. 202 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:54,983 Donyale lived... in sort of a... way 203 00:12:55,066 --> 00:13:00,155 where she would pretend and she would tell stories, 204 00:13:00,238 --> 00:13:03,867 and she black out many things in her life. 205 00:13:03,908 --> 00:13:05,910 Sanders: In a sense, 206 00:13:05,994 --> 00:13:10,373 she herself lived a performance. 207 00:13:21,676 --> 00:13:24,679 My, my favorite flower, 208 00:13:24,763 --> 00:13:27,432 perfect flower, I don't have any. 209 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,601 I don't have one. 210 00:13:29,684 --> 00:13:31,353 (chuckles) 211 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:33,772 Favorite what? Color? 212 00:13:33,855 --> 00:13:36,399 Um, yellow. 213 00:13:38,193 --> 00:13:41,488 Because the color yellow is deceiving 214 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:43,907 and I like it on me, 215 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:46,159 and I like, uh, what, what it represents 216 00:13:46,242 --> 00:13:48,953 because I'm a very deceiving person. 217 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:53,917 David McCabe: I was in Detroit 218 00:13:53,958 --> 00:13:57,796 working on an assignment for Ford Motors, 219 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:02,634 and, uh, Donyale happened to stop by 220 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:04,135 and watch what was going on, 221 00:14:04,219 --> 00:14:07,180 and she was on her way back from school, um, 222 00:14:07,263 --> 00:14:10,141 uh, wearing her school uniform. 223 00:14:10,225 --> 00:14:12,686 She was almost six feet tall, 224 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:15,397 and she had legs that went on for a mile, 225 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,691 and a beautiful smile. 226 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:20,151 I was just stunned. 227 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:23,113 I gave her my card and said, 228 00:14:23,154 --> 00:14:25,782 "If you're ever in New York, give me a call. 229 00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:27,158 I think you could model." 230 00:14:27,242 --> 00:14:30,495 And she said, "But I'm only 14." (chuckles) 231 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:34,124 He saw me and he thought I was, oh, so fantastic, 232 00:14:34,165 --> 00:14:35,792 and he says, "You must be a model." 233 00:14:35,834 --> 00:14:37,335 And I says, "No, I'm not." 234 00:14:37,377 --> 00:14:39,504 And, uh, he said, "Well, here's my card. 235 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:42,882 If you ever come to New York, please look me up." 236 00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:46,344 Five minutes later, he ran back to me and he says, 237 00:14:46,428 --> 00:14:49,639 "You've got to come to New York. You've got to do this and that." 238 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:52,642 -Interviewer: He looked you up? -Well, no, not that. 239 00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:57,605 It's-- You, y-- He knew something that I didn't know. 240 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:01,526 Aurora James: When you're a young girl like Donyale Luna 241 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:05,363 and you have someone come up to you and say, "You're beautiful, 242 00:15:05,405 --> 00:15:07,282 "I think that you should come to New York 243 00:15:07,365 --> 00:15:09,743 and do this amazing, glamorous thing," 244 00:15:09,826 --> 00:15:11,870 of course, you're gonna say yes. Right? 245 00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:13,204 You're dying to get out of your town 246 00:15:13,288 --> 00:15:14,581 where you don't feel accepted, 247 00:15:14,664 --> 00:15:16,124 where you feel like, you know, 248 00:15:16,207 --> 00:15:17,834 you have bigger opportunities, 249 00:15:17,876 --> 00:15:19,753 you can do all these other things. 250 00:15:19,836 --> 00:15:22,130 But at what cost? 251 00:15:22,797 --> 00:15:27,260 About two years later, I get a, a call from her, uh, 252 00:15:27,344 --> 00:15:30,221 saying that she's going to be in New York 253 00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:35,060 and could I help her, uh, maybe get with a modeling agency 254 00:15:35,143 --> 00:15:36,936 and, and take some photographs of her 255 00:15:37,020 --> 00:15:39,481 so she could present them to the agency? 256 00:15:39,564 --> 00:15:44,152 There is one other thing that I do remember, uh, 257 00:15:44,235 --> 00:15:47,572 and that was that she claimed 258 00:15:47,655 --> 00:15:51,409 that she was so exotic-looking 259 00:15:51,618 --> 00:15:55,538 because one of her parents was Mexican. 260 00:15:55,580 --> 00:16:00,919 I mean, I don't know if that was, perhaps, necessary at the time, 261 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,255 rather to say that you are a Black person, 262 00:16:04,339 --> 00:16:06,925 you are a Mexican person. 263 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:10,887 So, maybe that-- she thought that might make her 264 00:16:10,929 --> 00:16:13,765 more, uh, acceptable, yeah. 265 00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:17,435 Josephine: When Donyale left, 266 00:16:17,519 --> 00:16:19,938 I was very afraid, 267 00:16:20,021 --> 00:16:23,149 yet I knew she had to go and, you know, 268 00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:26,444 go on her own path. 269 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:30,615 I was a little sad. 270 00:16:30,657 --> 00:16:34,786 I was happy for her, like I said, very happy for her, 271 00:16:34,869 --> 00:16:39,708 but a little sad because... she wasn't comin' back too soon, 272 00:16:39,790 --> 00:16:41,459 and she didn't. 273 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:48,842 I felt like she left me behind. 274 00:16:48,925 --> 00:16:50,135 That's all. 275 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:53,638 It just-- It k-- It kinda hurt a little bit. 276 00:17:04,941 --> 00:17:07,318 Dream: "Joyfully filled with love, 277 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,489 "little girl split to New York, 278 00:17:11,573 --> 00:17:17,203 became the model... and got a lotta money." 279 00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:21,624 (horns honking) 280 00:17:21,665 --> 00:17:23,376 (siren wailing) 281 00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:27,672 (relaxing music playing) 282 00:17:32,177 --> 00:17:34,929 "New York is a dream! 283 00:17:35,013 --> 00:17:38,475 "A man danced me down Fifth Avenue, 284 00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:40,352 "and all up and down Broadway 285 00:17:40,435 --> 00:17:44,022 "men were eyeing and whistling at me. 286 00:17:44,064 --> 00:17:46,316 "I'll be on top of the world 287 00:17:46,358 --> 00:17:49,778 "if it takes every breath I have, 288 00:17:49,819 --> 00:17:52,155 "every muscle of my skinny body. 289 00:17:52,197 --> 00:17:56,743 I'll be some kind of star real soon, real soon." 290 00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:01,581 Omar: When she first came to New York, 291 00:18:01,664 --> 00:18:04,876 she was like a deer in the headlights. 292 00:18:04,959 --> 00:18:08,213 I mean, that's how innocent she was. 293 00:18:08,254 --> 00:18:11,466 Donyale: I was like a child. 294 00:18:11,549 --> 00:18:15,220 All these big buildings and chic people. 295 00:18:15,261 --> 00:18:18,390 And, you know, I was all in black and not very chic, 296 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:22,227 and very young with big eyes looking at everything. 297 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:26,564 Omar: I could see that she was not sophisticated. 298 00:18:26,606 --> 00:18:29,234 She, (laughs) she used to make me laugh 'cause she was-- 299 00:18:29,317 --> 00:18:34,155 she, she would pronounce "asparagus" as "as-par-gee." 300 00:18:34,239 --> 00:18:37,492 (chuckles) And, and, and I said, "Donyale, no. 301 00:18:37,575 --> 00:18:40,453 That-That's not the way ya pronounce it," you know? 302 00:18:40,537 --> 00:18:42,497 But she was a quick learner, 303 00:18:42,580 --> 00:18:45,792 and that is one of the things that endeared me to her. 304 00:18:45,875 --> 00:18:47,877 She learned quickly. 305 00:18:51,798 --> 00:18:54,926 Dr. Richard J. Powell: David McCabe's invitation to Donyale Luna 306 00:18:55,010 --> 00:18:56,928 to, uh, come to New York 307 00:18:56,970 --> 00:19:01,141 in the fall of 1964 is fortuitous. 308 00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:04,936 She is entering, uh, an incredibly exciting moment 309 00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:06,521 in the art world. 310 00:19:06,604 --> 00:19:08,356 And, perhaps, the ultimate artist 311 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,484 in 1964/'65 is Andy Warhol. 312 00:19:11,568 --> 00:19:13,278 (shutter clicks) 313 00:19:13,361 --> 00:19:17,198 David: At the time that I was doing the shootings of Andy Warhol, 314 00:19:17,282 --> 00:19:19,284 I took Donyale with me 315 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:22,328 over to his factory one afternoon. 316 00:19:22,412 --> 00:19:27,667 And he was absolutely beguiled by her, um, 317 00:19:27,751 --> 00:19:33,214 and she began to hang with the-- all the crowd from the Factory. 318 00:19:33,298 --> 00:19:35,467 (indistinct chatter) 319 00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:40,472 So Andy Warhol, some people referred to him as "The Vampire." 320 00:19:40,513 --> 00:19:43,725 And what they meant by that is that he kind of enjoyed 321 00:19:43,808 --> 00:19:46,728 kind of taking on the lifeblood and flow of, 322 00:19:46,811 --> 00:19:49,647 of other people's talents and energies. 323 00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:54,069 And he saw in Donyale Luna a, a personality and a spirit 324 00:19:54,152 --> 00:19:56,071 that was kind of tailor-made. 325 00:19:56,154 --> 00:19:58,615 (cool jazz music playing) 326 00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:05,663 And it didn't take long for Donyale Luna 327 00:20:05,747 --> 00:20:09,918 to be a part of this lively cultural scene 328 00:20:10,001 --> 00:20:12,295 that was going on in New York. 329 00:20:15,965 --> 00:20:21,721 I met Donyale Luna in 1965 330 00:20:21,805 --> 00:20:23,973 at a club called Il Mio. 331 00:20:24,015 --> 00:20:27,310 I used to go there every night to dance for free 332 00:20:27,352 --> 00:20:30,939 and drink for free because I was me. 333 00:20:31,022 --> 00:20:34,818 I looked over across the tiny dance floor, 334 00:20:34,859 --> 00:20:37,570 and she was dancing away, "undulating" I call it, 335 00:20:37,654 --> 00:20:40,532 from the toes up to the head then down again. 336 00:20:40,615 --> 00:20:42,909 No one danced like Donyale Luna. 337 00:20:44,494 --> 00:20:48,164 I said, "Hello." She goes, "Hi, baby." 338 00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:49,874 I said, "Hi." 339 00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:53,920 She said, "I'm Donyale," and I said, "I know." 340 00:20:54,004 --> 00:20:57,382 I think she's the most beautiful woman I've ever met in my life. 341 00:20:57,424 --> 00:20:59,009 I don't think so, I know so. 342 00:20:59,884 --> 00:21:06,099 People would literally stop, sometimes 15 feet away from her. 343 00:21:06,182 --> 00:21:08,560 Her face read from blocks away, 344 00:21:08,643 --> 00:21:11,563 which taught photographers to understand. 345 00:21:12,731 --> 00:21:16,943 The arms sell sweaters and the face sells dreams. 346 00:21:17,027 --> 00:21:18,695 And they could see that. 347 00:21:21,740 --> 00:21:24,409 Donyale: To go to New York was like a dream. 348 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:30,415 It was like Emerald City, like, uh, you know, "Alice in Wonderland." 349 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:34,919 David McCabe called up "Harper's Bazaar" 350 00:21:35,003 --> 00:21:38,506 and then I went to "Harper's Bazaar" that afternoon. 351 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:42,427 Uh, I saw the director. She liked me very much. 352 00:21:42,469 --> 00:21:46,181 She told me I was very beautiful and this and that. 353 00:21:46,264 --> 00:21:49,517 And she had every director there 354 00:21:49,601 --> 00:21:52,020 bring in everything they could find: 355 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:53,521 coats, hats, bathing suits, 356 00:21:53,605 --> 00:21:56,274 and I tried them all on. 357 00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:59,694 "Harper's Bazaar," "Bazaar" as they said, 358 00:21:59,778 --> 00:22:03,031 was the chicest magazine in the world. 359 00:22:03,073 --> 00:22:05,325 They had the best photographers, 360 00:22:05,408 --> 00:22:07,869 the pages were the most beautiful, 361 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:11,790 and the photographs were treated as art. 362 00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:16,961 So, "Bazaar" was the magazine of the world. 363 00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:19,714 Constance: I mean, when Donyale Luna came along, 364 00:22:19,798 --> 00:22:22,175 the cover of "Harper's Bazaar" 365 00:22:22,258 --> 00:22:24,344 was something that wasn't happening 366 00:22:24,427 --> 00:22:27,389 for Black women period. 367 00:22:27,472 --> 00:22:30,475 There was tremendous resistance 368 00:22:30,558 --> 00:22:34,479 to putting people of color on the cover of magazines 369 00:22:34,521 --> 00:22:39,651 outside a magazine like "Ebony" or "Jet." 370 00:22:39,693 --> 00:22:41,361 Dr. Powell: The world that Donyale Luna 371 00:22:41,444 --> 00:22:44,823 finds herself stepping into in the '60s 372 00:22:44,906 --> 00:22:48,410 is a world that still is, in some ways, based on a kind 373 00:22:48,493 --> 00:22:52,080 of a Euro-American white ideal. 374 00:22:52,163 --> 00:22:56,334 (female chorus singing) 375 00:22:56,418 --> 00:22:58,461 Narrator: Make your pale complexion 376 00:22:58,503 --> 00:23:01,464 look like peaches and cream. 377 00:23:01,506 --> 00:23:05,427 Image representation matters, 378 00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:07,971 and it couldn't be more true 379 00:23:08,013 --> 00:23:10,849 when you think about standards of beauty. 380 00:23:10,932 --> 00:23:13,184 It's something that Black women 381 00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:16,479 have a singular experience with. 382 00:23:16,521 --> 00:23:18,565 You're not beautiful enough. Your hair's not right. 383 00:23:18,648 --> 00:23:22,360 Your skin color's wrong. Your lips are too big. 384 00:23:22,402 --> 00:23:24,362 Your nose is too small. 385 00:23:24,446 --> 00:23:28,533 Everything about you is wrong. 386 00:23:29,701 --> 00:23:31,453 (camera shutter clicks) 387 00:23:33,538 --> 00:23:36,416 Dr. Powell: And so, it's kind of remarkable. 388 00:23:36,499 --> 00:23:41,046 Donyale Luna arrives in the fall of 1964. 389 00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:45,383 By January 1965, we're talking three months, 390 00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:47,552 (chuckles) she's on the cover 391 00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:49,596 of "Harper's Bazaar" as a drawing. 392 00:23:50,597 --> 00:23:54,059 It is interesting, though, that they've chosen to make her pale, 393 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,603 that, that they, they do not make her brown, 394 00:23:56,686 --> 00:23:58,688 which is what she was, or, or, or light brown. 395 00:23:58,730 --> 00:24:02,192 They, they almost make her almost peachy colored. 396 00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:06,279 Dream: "Straight away, everything happened all at once. 397 00:24:06,363 --> 00:24:09,324 "No struggling. No anxious waiting. 398 00:24:09,407 --> 00:24:14,120 I just hit New York and it was all there ready for me." 399 00:24:14,204 --> 00:24:16,581 Wow! I couldn't believe it. 400 00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:19,376 Wow! I said, "Gee, that's my sister! 401 00:24:19,459 --> 00:24:23,421 Oh, she's so pretty. Oh, she's so beautiful." 402 00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:26,508 Yes, that's my sis. (chuckles) 403 00:24:33,223 --> 00:24:36,434 David McCabe: I think in the '60s, there was a lot of prejudice 404 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:39,354 in America towards people of color. 405 00:24:39,437 --> 00:24:44,442 But since I'm an Englishman, I had none of those feelings. 406 00:24:44,484 --> 00:24:46,027 So, when I saw her, 407 00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:50,490 I just realized what great potential she had as a model. 408 00:24:50,573 --> 00:24:53,118 (cool jazz music playing) 409 00:24:53,201 --> 00:24:55,537 I introduced her to Avedon. 410 00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:57,580 And Avedon really loved her 411 00:24:57,622 --> 00:25:01,960 and, I think, wanted to sign her to a contract. 412 00:25:02,043 --> 00:25:07,340 Hamish Bowles: Richard Avedon emerged in the '40s in New York, 413 00:25:07,424 --> 00:25:12,012 and he was... I think in many ways, 414 00:25:12,095 --> 00:25:17,225 the greatest fashion photographer of his time. 415 00:25:17,308 --> 00:25:19,436 He is really 416 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:23,982 the great gatekeeper of fashion in America. 417 00:25:24,858 --> 00:25:28,862 Gideon Lewin: I think Avedon really believed in Donyale. 418 00:25:28,945 --> 00:25:34,325 From the moment she walked in, he knew she is "it." 419 00:25:34,367 --> 00:25:36,494 I felt the same way. She is it. 420 00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:38,246 There's no question. 421 00:25:38,872 --> 00:25:43,209 And he was willing to sign her up for a contract. 422 00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:48,506 Richard Avedon was a-- maybe one of the greatest 423 00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:51,259 photo-- fashion photographers of all time. 424 00:25:51,343 --> 00:25:54,888 And for him to put her under contract meant that 425 00:25:54,971 --> 00:25:57,891 "I don't want anybody else shooting this woman. 426 00:25:57,974 --> 00:26:01,478 This is how extraordinary this woman is 427 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:03,855 and she's mine." 428 00:26:04,522 --> 00:26:06,399 Unheard of. 429 00:26:06,483 --> 00:26:10,320 Unheard of for a Black woman. 430 00:26:10,362 --> 00:26:15,158 Let's go to the, uh, special issue of "Harper's Bazaar," 431 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,453 for 1965, the April issue. 432 00:26:18,536 --> 00:26:21,581 Avedon was guest editor 433 00:26:21,664 --> 00:26:24,751 who photographed all the images in this book, 434 00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:30,423 and that's really a, uh, portrait of the times. 435 00:26:30,507 --> 00:26:34,552 And there's actually Donyale right here. 436 00:26:34,594 --> 00:26:36,596 Just beautiful. 437 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,850 She is moving so gracefully. 438 00:26:47,399 --> 00:26:49,776 No one has ever posed like this, 439 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:52,070 on the ground, the f-- hands in the back, 440 00:26:52,112 --> 00:26:57,075 that long body of hers out like a panther... no one. 441 00:26:57,158 --> 00:26:59,703 Dr. Powell: And then there are those other images 442 00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:03,707 with her counterpart, the German model Veruschka. 443 00:27:04,874 --> 00:27:06,793 This is quite remarkable. 444 00:27:06,876 --> 00:27:08,586 We're talking about a moment when Black people 445 00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:12,799 are barely a figure in, in high fashion. 446 00:27:12,882 --> 00:27:14,217 And within a couple of months, 447 00:27:14,259 --> 00:27:17,137 you've had this young African American woman 448 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:21,099 defining the kind of look of mid-'60s onward. 449 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,150 Omar: She broke the mold 450 00:27:30,233 --> 00:27:34,362 of using Black models in the '60s, 451 00:27:34,446 --> 00:27:40,326 and it made me happy to see this young girl that I knew really blossom. 452 00:27:41,077 --> 00:27:46,207 Lillian: Oh, she's so pretty. Oh, she's so beautiful. 453 00:27:46,291 --> 00:27:48,626 I knew it. I just knew it. I knew it. 454 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:50,795 I knew she was gonna become a star. 455 00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:55,008 I thought there was no stoppin' her. 456 00:28:02,557 --> 00:28:05,685 Gideon: When the magazine came out... 457 00:28:05,769 --> 00:28:09,856 the white population down south... 458 00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:14,486 they completely rejected the, the, the, the magazine. 459 00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:18,448 Aurora: "Harper's Bazaar" received a ton of backlash. 460 00:28:18,490 --> 00:28:20,867 There was a loss of subscribers, 461 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:22,786 advertisers were pulling, 462 00:28:22,827 --> 00:28:26,664 and it just was, basically, not possible 463 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,792 to keep featuring her 464 00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:32,170 if the magazine was expecting to do business as normal. 465 00:28:32,212 --> 00:28:33,922 Dr. Powell: Donyale Luna discovers, 466 00:28:34,005 --> 00:28:37,634 after all of the successes of "Harper's Bazaar," 467 00:28:37,676 --> 00:28:42,263 that there is a glass ceiling for beautiful Black women, 468 00:28:42,347 --> 00:28:44,933 and Madison Avenue basically said, 469 00:28:45,016 --> 00:28:48,687 "Well, we just won't feature her in our publications." 470 00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:51,231 Yeah. Don't do it again. 471 00:28:51,314 --> 00:28:54,609 Yeah. That was exactly what they said. 472 00:28:54,693 --> 00:28:57,320 "Don't do it again." 473 00:28:59,572 --> 00:29:01,157 David Croland: It was unspoken, 474 00:29:01,199 --> 00:29:05,829 but it was just so loudly unspoken. 475 00:29:05,912 --> 00:29:08,915 They would put up a barrier, which was always there, 476 00:29:08,998 --> 00:29:10,333 and then they would allow, 477 00:29:10,375 --> 00:29:14,379 and then they would put the fuckin' barrier up again. 478 00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:19,050 Aurora: Society doesn't like change. 479 00:29:19,134 --> 00:29:23,263 And so, when you put a Black woman in a role 480 00:29:23,346 --> 00:29:26,725 where you're then asking the reader 481 00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:30,103 to find her aspirational, 482 00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:33,106 you're gonna get hit with some major backlash, back then, 483 00:29:33,189 --> 00:29:35,525 and by the way, also still today. 484 00:29:35,567 --> 00:29:40,113 But I think as a human, what she would've experienced 485 00:29:40,196 --> 00:29:45,243 in being on the receiving end of that backlash is horrific. 486 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,877 Dream: "My mother is worried about me. 487 00:29:53,918 --> 00:29:58,506 "I was in Detroit just over a year ago. 488 00:29:58,590 --> 00:30:00,884 "She's worried I'll be hurt. 489 00:30:02,761 --> 00:30:07,015 She doesn't know I've already been hurt." 490 00:30:11,936 --> 00:30:16,441 Lillian: It was deep wintertime... 491 00:30:16,483 --> 00:30:19,778 and my parents were having 492 00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:23,281 a serious misunderstanding. 493 00:30:23,365 --> 00:30:27,619 S-Some sort of a fight, I guess. 494 00:30:28,495 --> 00:30:30,747 And, um... 495 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:35,251 somehow, uh, my father was in the car 496 00:30:35,293 --> 00:30:38,129 that my mother had bought for him, 497 00:30:38,213 --> 00:30:40,215 and he got outta the car. 498 00:30:40,298 --> 00:30:43,385 I was in the house watching this through the window, 499 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:47,472 and I was, I think, 15 or 16 at the time. 500 00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:52,560 And, uh, my mother shot and killed my father. 501 00:30:56,731 --> 00:30:59,067 She was shakin' her head and cryin', 502 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:00,568 "I never meant to kill him. 503 00:31:00,652 --> 00:31:03,488 I never meant to kill him. I just wanted him to stop," 504 00:31:03,571 --> 00:31:06,658 because they had a history of domestic violence. 505 00:31:10,495 --> 00:31:12,247 I'm sorry. 506 00:31:14,666 --> 00:31:16,084 Um... 507 00:31:17,836 --> 00:31:22,882 I, uh, I was in a, a deep depression for many years after that. 508 00:31:26,177 --> 00:31:30,682 I watched that happen... looking out the window 509 00:31:30,765 --> 00:31:32,934 right in front of me. 510 00:31:34,686 --> 00:31:38,523 Sanders: Donyale did not come for the funeral. 511 00:31:40,025 --> 00:31:43,319 There were too many bad memories 512 00:31:43,361 --> 00:31:47,657 that she wanted to separate herself from. 513 00:31:50,952 --> 00:31:53,538 I don't know the circumstances, 514 00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:57,500 but I do know she did have a nervous breakdown. 515 00:31:59,085 --> 00:32:02,922 She was in Bellevue mental ward 516 00:32:03,006 --> 00:32:06,092 for at least two or three weeks. 517 00:32:06,176 --> 00:32:09,554 She wouldn't discuss the details, 518 00:32:09,637 --> 00:32:14,059 but I did know there were a lot of pressures, 519 00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:20,065 both domestically at home and in New York. 520 00:32:20,148 --> 00:32:24,069 Everything was in black and white 521 00:32:24,152 --> 00:32:26,488 and she resented that. 522 00:32:29,866 --> 00:32:33,495 She went into her fantasy world. 523 00:32:33,578 --> 00:32:35,413 (electronic beep) 524 00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:39,084 Announcer: We confirm the separation here on the ground. 525 00:32:40,752 --> 00:32:45,131 It's strange because a lot of the things my mom went through, 526 00:32:45,215 --> 00:32:48,510 I experienced in a similar way. 527 00:32:50,762 --> 00:32:53,515 Growing up without a mom, 528 00:32:53,598 --> 00:32:58,311 it felt like something was always missing. 529 00:33:03,316 --> 00:33:06,277 Some souls, like hers, 530 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,406 and I guess, like me, at some level, 531 00:33:09,447 --> 00:33:12,909 when the sensitivity is too high, 532 00:33:12,951 --> 00:33:16,287 you're scared that this is gonna suck you in... 533 00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:22,544 so you create fairy tales. 534 00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:25,630 A way to escape. 535 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:34,597 "The little girl felt so lost in her mind... 536 00:33:34,639 --> 00:33:38,601 and so, she split to another world." 537 00:33:41,312 --> 00:33:46,985 David Croland: After a year in, uh, New York City, she left. 538 00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:52,657 She went to London, and that's when it really started... 539 00:33:52,699 --> 00:33:55,285 because it did. 540 00:33:55,368 --> 00:33:57,245 Oh, yeah. 541 00:33:57,328 --> 00:34:00,457 -(drumroll playing) -(crowd applauding) 542 00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:06,963 (crowd cheering) 543 00:34:07,005 --> 00:34:09,757 (rock music playing) 544 00:34:14,721 --> 00:34:21,311 '60s London was completely phenomenal and unparalleled. 545 00:34:22,562 --> 00:34:24,481 There was this sense of, kind of, 546 00:34:24,522 --> 00:34:26,483 electric possibility and potential, 547 00:34:26,524 --> 00:34:29,485 and it was coming from young people, 548 00:34:29,527 --> 00:34:32,197 and it was coming from the student protests 549 00:34:32,237 --> 00:34:35,742 and this kind of fierce politicization 550 00:34:35,824 --> 00:34:37,369 of a whole generation, 551 00:34:37,452 --> 00:34:41,539 who weren't prepared to accept the status quo. 552 00:34:42,748 --> 00:34:46,628 Suddenly, fashion was percolating up from the street. 553 00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:48,672 It was coming from young people, 554 00:34:48,713 --> 00:34:50,715 and you have these designers emerging 555 00:34:50,799 --> 00:34:52,384 from the Royal College of Art: 556 00:34:52,425 --> 00:34:55,387 Zandra Rhodes and Ossie Clark, 557 00:34:55,469 --> 00:34:57,722 and they're shaking things up, too. 558 00:34:57,806 --> 00:35:02,185 I think it was a very, very vibrant time in London. 559 00:35:02,769 --> 00:35:07,232 Swinging '60s with Mary Quant, uh, minidresses. 560 00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:10,944 And I'd had myself a Vidal Sassoon haircut. 561 00:35:11,027 --> 00:35:14,864 And then it was Twiggy and her look. 562 00:35:14,906 --> 00:35:17,534 Host: Some time the emaciated English model Twiggy 563 00:35:17,575 --> 00:35:19,703 has been the darling of the fashion scene. 564 00:35:19,744 --> 00:35:22,414 But today, an even more unusual and more talked about model 565 00:35:22,497 --> 00:35:24,040 arrived in the model business. 566 00:35:24,082 --> 00:35:25,709 She's Donyale Luna. 567 00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:28,086 Hamish: Everything was being shaken up, 568 00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:30,588 and it was iconoclastic. 569 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:33,925 It was about breaking down existing rules, 570 00:35:33,967 --> 00:35:39,764 and one of those rules was who got to say what beauty was. 571 00:35:47,272 --> 00:35:48,773 (person speaking) 572 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:53,653 (person speaking) 573 00:35:53,737 --> 00:35:54,863 (horn honks) 574 00:36:03,121 --> 00:36:04,581 (person speaking) 575 00:36:07,292 --> 00:36:09,419 (person speaking) 576 00:36:17,802 --> 00:36:21,723 Dr. Powell: Given the challenges of Black life in America, 577 00:36:21,806 --> 00:36:25,852 especially, the lack of mainstream America 578 00:36:25,935 --> 00:36:29,189 to recognize Black beauty, Black genius, 579 00:36:29,272 --> 00:36:34,944 Black accomplishment, many African Americans find their way abroad. 580 00:36:35,028 --> 00:36:36,404 Announcer 1: There's Josephine Baker. 581 00:36:36,488 --> 00:36:39,657 (big band music playing) 582 00:36:39,699 --> 00:36:41,493 Announcer 2: The toast of the fashion world 583 00:36:41,576 --> 00:36:43,244 was model, Dorothea Towles. 584 00:36:43,328 --> 00:36:45,580 Home from her successes in Paris, 585 00:36:45,663 --> 00:36:48,041 she brought back a $70,000 wardrobe 586 00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:50,335 by the style capital's top designer. 587 00:36:50,418 --> 00:36:55,840 So, Europe has always been kind of a magnet for, for, for, for Black artists 588 00:36:55,924 --> 00:36:58,385 who, who want to be seen in their totality, 589 00:36:58,468 --> 00:37:02,013 and want to be seen as human beings 590 00:37:02,055 --> 00:37:04,641 and not as Black people. 591 00:37:08,019 --> 00:37:12,232 David Croland: Donyale started to work immediately. 592 00:37:12,315 --> 00:37:14,484 They all wanted her. 593 00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:17,904 There wasn't a photographer with eyesight that didn't want her. 594 00:37:17,987 --> 00:37:19,739 I mean, look at her. 595 00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:22,742 Omar: She hung around with Mia Farrow. 596 00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:25,120 She hung around with the Rolling Stones. 597 00:37:25,203 --> 00:37:27,539 She hung around with everybody 598 00:37:27,622 --> 00:37:33,003 who was beginning to be well-known in London in the '60s. 599 00:37:33,712 --> 00:37:35,255 David Croland: She didn't have a chance 600 00:37:35,338 --> 00:37:37,549 to become the "it girl" of New York City 601 00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:39,843 because of the rejection, 602 00:37:39,926 --> 00:37:44,180 but when she hit London, they couldn't deal with it. 603 00:37:44,222 --> 00:37:45,390 They loved her so much. 604 00:37:45,473 --> 00:37:49,519 And now, the lovely Luna. 605 00:37:49,602 --> 00:37:53,064 (applause) 606 00:37:53,106 --> 00:37:54,566 Dream: "Back in Detroit, 607 00:37:54,649 --> 00:37:57,193 "I wasn't considered beautiful or anything. 608 00:37:57,277 --> 00:38:00,447 "I was always too tall, too freaky-looking. 609 00:38:00,530 --> 00:38:05,410 "Nobody ever gave me a chance, but look at me now. 610 00:38:05,452 --> 00:38:07,412 Here, I'm different." 611 00:38:07,454 --> 00:38:10,415 -(upbeat music playing) -(crowd applauding) 612 00:38:10,498 --> 00:38:15,128 1966 is the banner year for Donyale Luna. 613 00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:18,798 We have an incredible spread in "Paris Match." 614 00:38:18,882 --> 00:38:20,967 No one's ever heard of this, a, a Black woman 615 00:38:21,051 --> 00:38:23,928 being featured in one scene after another. 616 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,805 I mean, it's just kind of unprecedented. 617 00:38:25,889 --> 00:38:27,390 Zandra Rhodes: Then Adel Rootstein 618 00:38:27,432 --> 00:38:29,934 made the wonderful mannequin of her, 619 00:38:30,018 --> 00:38:33,605 which was sort of very leggy and very army, 620 00:38:33,646 --> 00:38:36,441 and, I mean, they'd never been done like that before. 621 00:38:36,483 --> 00:38:37,984 They were wonderful. 622 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:41,654 She's in conversation with people like John Lennon. 623 00:38:41,738 --> 00:38:46,368 She's dating Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones at one point. 624 00:38:46,451 --> 00:38:48,370 (indistinct chatter) 625 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:51,539 I think you're, you're very sexy. 626 00:38:51,623 --> 00:38:54,459 Dr. Powell: She's also dating Klaus Kinski. (laughs) 627 00:38:54,501 --> 00:38:56,586 Are you good in bed? 628 00:38:56,628 --> 00:38:58,463 Dr. Powell: "Time" magazine calls her 629 00:38:58,505 --> 00:39:03,134 "the most extraordinary evocation of the negro that we've ever seen," 630 00:39:03,176 --> 00:39:05,929 and it-- I mean, we're using a lot of superlatives here 631 00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:08,098 because I think people were kind of taken aback 632 00:39:08,139 --> 00:39:10,475 by the splash that she makes. 633 00:39:11,226 --> 00:39:14,521 The girl of the moment is Donyale Luna. 634 00:39:14,604 --> 00:39:16,272 Dream: "If I'd seen something like me 635 00:39:16,314 --> 00:39:17,524 "in a magazine as a child, 636 00:39:17,607 --> 00:39:20,151 "I would have died laughing. 637 00:39:20,193 --> 00:39:22,320 "I have skinny arms and legs 638 00:39:22,404 --> 00:39:25,532 and I'm bloody tall, but so what?" 639 00:39:26,324 --> 00:39:29,202 When I first saw Donyale Luna, 640 00:39:29,285 --> 00:39:31,287 she was standing on top 641 00:39:31,329 --> 00:39:34,249 of a baby grand piano in the water. 642 00:39:34,332 --> 00:39:37,460 Her legs were extremely long, 643 00:39:37,502 --> 00:39:40,672 and her arms were extremely long, 644 00:39:40,714 --> 00:39:43,675 and I just thought, "Is she a fairy? 645 00:39:43,717 --> 00:39:45,593 Is she real? Is that a real--" 646 00:39:45,677 --> 00:39:47,846 I'd never seen anyone like that. 647 00:39:47,929 --> 00:39:51,850 I just can't say enough about how beautiful she was. 648 00:39:51,933 --> 00:39:53,309 She was a star. 649 00:39:53,351 --> 00:39:56,021 I mean, she stopped traffic. 650 00:39:56,104 --> 00:39:59,149 She had that aura about her. 651 00:40:00,358 --> 00:40:03,028 She is at the very apex 652 00:40:03,069 --> 00:40:07,365 of everything that is most exciting in London 653 00:40:07,449 --> 00:40:09,576 in a moment when, globally, 654 00:40:09,659 --> 00:40:13,496 that was the most exciting place to be on so many levels. 655 00:40:13,538 --> 00:40:16,124 Fashion aspect of that is very much exemplified 656 00:40:16,207 --> 00:40:18,376 by the movie "Blow-Up," 657 00:40:18,418 --> 00:40:21,880 and Donyale Luna is totally there. 658 00:40:21,921 --> 00:40:25,508 Thomas: Come on. Come on, work, work, work. 659 00:40:25,550 --> 00:40:28,803 Hamish: You have cameos from the great models 660 00:40:28,845 --> 00:40:29,804 of the moment, 661 00:40:29,888 --> 00:40:31,473 and you have David Hemmings, 662 00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:35,560 who is, basically, impersonating David Bailey. 663 00:40:39,564 --> 00:40:43,109 I like fashion photography because it was the, 664 00:40:43,193 --> 00:40:45,195 in those days, it was the only way you could be 665 00:40:45,236 --> 00:40:46,738 a bit creative in photography. 666 00:40:47,739 --> 00:40:49,074 By the time I was 22, 667 00:40:49,157 --> 00:40:51,993 I was doing covers for "British Vogue," 668 00:40:52,077 --> 00:40:55,455 and, uh, I used to have much more power in those days. 669 00:40:55,538 --> 00:40:57,916 When it came to America, America used to get 670 00:40:57,999 --> 00:41:00,502 three photographers to do three different shots, 671 00:41:00,585 --> 00:41:02,295 and then they put them all on the screen 672 00:41:02,379 --> 00:41:03,963 and get a psychiatrist to look at them 673 00:41:04,047 --> 00:41:05,924 and to see which one they should publish. 674 00:41:06,007 --> 00:41:08,885 But in England, we didn't do that. 675 00:41:09,552 --> 00:41:12,806 I just started shooting girls I liked, really. 676 00:41:15,141 --> 00:41:17,977 Just stand with your legs apart and face me. No, no. 677 00:41:18,061 --> 00:41:21,356 Hamish: David Bailey is this very scrappy, 678 00:41:21,439 --> 00:41:23,108 kind of, London kid 679 00:41:23,149 --> 00:41:25,777 who completely transformed 680 00:41:25,819 --> 00:41:28,905 the whole idea of beauty and fashion 681 00:41:28,947 --> 00:41:32,117 and how you bring a magazine to life. 682 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,328 Good girl. That's lovely. Hang about, this is marvelous. 683 00:41:35,412 --> 00:41:36,955 Good. Open your mouth slightly. 684 00:41:37,038 --> 00:41:41,292 David Bailey really is "it," and if he's photographing you, 685 00:41:41,376 --> 00:41:43,169 that is the ultimate consecration, 686 00:41:43,253 --> 00:41:47,632 and the opportunity for a model like Donyale 687 00:41:47,716 --> 00:41:52,637 to reset the paradigm of what beauty can be. 688 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,055 (camera shutter clicks) 689 00:41:54,139 --> 00:41:56,558 David Bailey: This is Donyale Luna. 690 00:41:57,517 --> 00:41:59,644 Here's the c-- Here's the cover. 691 00:42:01,521 --> 00:42:03,940 It's printed a bit dark, I think, 692 00:42:03,982 --> 00:42:08,278 but, uh, she looks great, doesn't she? 693 00:42:11,865 --> 00:42:14,117 She was perfect for the picture. 694 00:42:15,285 --> 00:42:17,162 It's as good as it gets. 695 00:42:18,830 --> 00:42:20,832 Constance: I was stunned. 696 00:42:20,915 --> 00:42:23,376 My breath was just taken away. 697 00:42:23,460 --> 00:42:26,713 This woman was the first Black model 698 00:42:26,796 --> 00:42:29,507 to be on the cover of "Vogue." 699 00:42:30,175 --> 00:42:34,679 The momentousness of this cannot be understated. 700 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:37,849 Beverly Johnson: Being on the cover of "Vogue" magazine 701 00:42:37,932 --> 00:42:41,019 is our gold medal in the Olympics. 702 00:42:41,061 --> 00:42:45,190 It's our Oscar in the world of acting. 703 00:42:46,191 --> 00:42:48,735 It's achieving that "Vogue" cover 704 00:42:48,818 --> 00:42:52,655 puts you at the top of the modeling profession. 705 00:42:54,657 --> 00:42:56,785 Hamish: She kind of leaps out of the page 706 00:42:56,868 --> 00:43:01,414 because she's this extraordinarily beautiful Black woman, 707 00:43:01,498 --> 00:43:03,124 and there's just simply was 708 00:43:03,208 --> 00:43:05,710 no Black and brown representation at all 709 00:43:05,794 --> 00:43:08,046 in the pages of a magazine like that. 710 00:43:09,714 --> 00:43:11,633 I didn't even think about being Black. 711 00:43:11,716 --> 00:43:13,176 She was just someone that looked beautiful, 712 00:43:13,218 --> 00:43:15,303 and I thought she'd be great for a picture. 713 00:43:15,387 --> 00:43:18,723 I mean... it wasn't, uh-- 714 00:43:18,765 --> 00:43:20,558 I didn't have an angst about it 715 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,478 or... I never thought about her being Black, actually. 716 00:43:23,561 --> 00:43:25,063 I just did it. 717 00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:28,566 I always thought she was Indian, I didn't think she was Negroid. 718 00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:31,403 But anyway, I think she's beautiful, isn't she? 719 00:43:35,740 --> 00:43:40,161 Producer: Did she ever talk to you about racism in the industry? 720 00:43:40,245 --> 00:43:43,581 Not really, no. Uh-uh. 721 00:43:43,623 --> 00:43:46,084 Because we were too busy havin' fun, 722 00:43:46,126 --> 00:43:50,005 and, (chuckles) and smokin' a lotta weed, yeah. 723 00:43:51,548 --> 00:43:54,801 In Europe, I mean, she was a sensation. 724 00:43:54,884 --> 00:43:57,846 And when you get that kind of adulation 725 00:43:57,929 --> 00:44:02,392 and when you get that recognition... you say, 726 00:44:02,434 --> 00:44:07,230 you, you, you, you put a finger to America, you know what I'm saying? 727 00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:08,773 (dogs barking) 728 00:44:08,857 --> 00:44:11,776 (protestors shouting) 729 00:44:15,113 --> 00:44:19,534 Dr. Powell: Looking at Donyale Luna, uh, in retrospect, 730 00:44:19,617 --> 00:44:23,747 one might wonder why she wasn't 731 00:44:23,788 --> 00:44:30,295 as racially, um, proactive as we would want her to be. 732 00:44:31,046 --> 00:44:34,799 Because the backdrop of this is the Civil Rights Movement. 733 00:44:34,883 --> 00:44:38,803 The backdrop of this is African independence, 734 00:44:38,845 --> 00:44:41,306 and yet Donyale Luna's not a part of that. 735 00:44:42,807 --> 00:44:45,268 When we go back to the interviews 736 00:44:45,310 --> 00:44:47,228 during this time period 737 00:44:47,312 --> 00:44:50,231 where, um, people are asking her about her identity, 738 00:44:50,315 --> 00:44:52,650 asking her about the Civil Rights Movement, 739 00:44:52,692 --> 00:44:54,444 she's incredibly evasive. 740 00:44:54,861 --> 00:44:57,364 Interviewer: You have the most spectacular blue eyes. 741 00:44:57,447 --> 00:44:58,573 Where do they come from? 742 00:44:58,656 --> 00:45:00,825 That's a secret. 743 00:45:02,535 --> 00:45:04,704 Dr. Powell: She talks about blondes 744 00:45:04,788 --> 00:45:06,623 and blue-eyed models 745 00:45:06,664 --> 00:45:10,001 and how God did not make her, um, like that, 746 00:45:10,085 --> 00:45:13,463 and that, um, she wishes that, um, 747 00:45:13,505 --> 00:45:18,134 that, that, that she was white and, and blonde and blue-eyed. 748 00:45:20,011 --> 00:45:23,181 Constance: What does that mean? 749 00:45:23,264 --> 00:45:26,685 She's a Black girl from Detroit, 750 00:45:26,768 --> 00:45:28,895 and what's wrong with that? 751 00:45:28,978 --> 00:45:30,980 Not a darn thing. 752 00:45:32,357 --> 00:45:34,776 Dr. Powell: Many people interpret this as 753 00:45:34,859 --> 00:45:38,780 a kind of a disavowal and a refusal, 754 00:45:38,863 --> 00:45:41,658 that she didn't realize and recognize herself 755 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:43,535 as, as a woman of color. 756 00:45:45,704 --> 00:45:49,582 Constance: There were people whose lives were being taken. 757 00:45:49,666 --> 00:45:53,753 There were people who were being brutalized by the police. 758 00:45:53,837 --> 00:45:55,797 There were people who were being shot, 759 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,799 and that was happening 760 00:45:57,882 --> 00:46:01,928 while Donyale was living this fabulous life. 761 00:46:02,012 --> 00:46:03,638 (protestors shouting) 762 00:46:03,722 --> 00:46:05,557 Dream: "I've been described as being 763 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,145 "both a white person and a Negro. 764 00:46:10,228 --> 00:46:14,149 Whatever people want to think, they can." 765 00:46:21,948 --> 00:46:24,367 (projector rattling) 766 00:46:24,409 --> 00:46:27,579 Dream: "The little girl became famous 767 00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:31,916 "and again felt unpure love. 768 00:46:31,958 --> 00:46:33,877 "But for the first time, 769 00:46:33,918 --> 00:46:35,837 "she met freaks like her 770 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,006 "in heart and mind. 771 00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:41,259 "They showed her colors of other worlds, 772 00:46:41,301 --> 00:46:44,304 "taught her of the ways of human beings, 773 00:46:44,387 --> 00:46:47,974 and of what little they knew of gods." 774 00:46:52,103 --> 00:46:53,980 Juan Fernandez: There's a lot of other girls 775 00:46:54,064 --> 00:46:55,565 that have come around... 776 00:46:57,025 --> 00:46:59,319 but there was one goddess. 777 00:46:59,402 --> 00:47:01,237 There was one queen. 778 00:47:01,279 --> 00:47:04,407 And that was Luna. 779 00:47:07,786 --> 00:47:12,290 We realized that we had been together for many lifetime. 780 00:47:12,332 --> 00:47:16,378 We were brothers from another life. 781 00:47:16,461 --> 00:47:21,049 We worked together, we played together, we laughed, 782 00:47:21,132 --> 00:47:23,927 we cried, we talked. 783 00:47:23,968 --> 00:47:27,472 We never made love. It was not about sex. 784 00:47:29,015 --> 00:47:31,518 Donyale was a genius. 785 00:47:31,601 --> 00:47:34,729 Let's talk about the images that she created for "Playboy." 786 00:47:34,813 --> 00:47:38,733 It was just a, a magazine that is all tits and ass. 787 00:47:38,817 --> 00:47:40,443 I mean, she had wings, 788 00:47:40,485 --> 00:47:41,820 and she was having fire 789 00:47:41,861 --> 00:47:43,571 come out of her vagina. 790 00:47:43,655 --> 00:47:45,323 I mean, it's, like-- 791 00:47:45,407 --> 00:47:47,909 they were like, "Ah, scandalous!" 792 00:47:47,992 --> 00:47:50,662 (ethereal voices singing) 793 00:47:55,333 --> 00:47:57,502 David Croland: London was incredible. 794 00:47:57,544 --> 00:48:01,631 And then when she was done with London, she went to Paris. 795 00:48:03,049 --> 00:48:06,177 She was "it." 796 00:48:06,219 --> 00:48:09,806 But I didn't know until I got there in '67, to Paris, 797 00:48:09,848 --> 00:48:13,435 uh... the magnitude of it. 798 00:48:15,311 --> 00:48:19,357 I see Donyale Luna coming down the street. 799 00:48:19,399 --> 00:48:23,028 She said, "Baby, what are you doing here?" 800 00:48:23,069 --> 00:48:24,988 I said, "Havin' a coffee." 801 00:48:25,989 --> 00:48:30,201 And, uh, we moved in the next day, 802 00:48:30,243 --> 00:48:33,705 and became roommates... like that. 803 00:48:33,788 --> 00:48:36,166 (relaxing jazz music playing) 804 00:48:37,876 --> 00:48:40,378 Our diet was insane. 805 00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:44,674 Mars bars, Coca-Cola, and that's it. 806 00:48:44,716 --> 00:48:46,259 Eating was not a priority. 807 00:48:46,343 --> 00:48:49,220 Drinking was, and getting high was. 808 00:48:49,262 --> 00:48:50,680 By the way, Donyale Luna, 809 00:48:50,722 --> 00:48:53,600 no one rolled a joint the way Donyale Luna rolled. 810 00:48:53,683 --> 00:48:56,394 One day at the apartment in Paris, she was going-- 811 00:48:56,436 --> 00:48:59,439 having a ball up in the air, and I can't stand sports. 812 00:48:59,522 --> 00:49:01,566 She's throwing this ball up in the air, 813 00:49:01,649 --> 00:49:05,111 big, black ball, like this, like a, like a softball, 814 00:49:05,195 --> 00:49:07,989 and she throws the ball at me, and of course, I went like this, 815 00:49:08,073 --> 00:49:09,908 and she said, "Why didn't you catch it, baby?" 816 00:49:09,949 --> 00:49:13,536 I said, "I don't like playin' ball." She goes, "It's not a ball." 817 00:49:13,578 --> 00:49:17,374 It was a ball of black hash. 818 00:49:17,415 --> 00:49:22,212 We're talking thousands and thousands... like this. 819 00:49:22,253 --> 00:49:24,005 I said, "Where'd you get that?" 820 00:49:24,089 --> 00:49:26,174 "Oh, baby, a friend of mine gave it to me." 821 00:49:26,257 --> 00:49:28,093 Friends gave her a lot because, you know, 822 00:49:28,176 --> 00:49:29,761 they wanted to be her friend. 823 00:49:29,844 --> 00:49:31,971 (David chuckles) 824 00:49:32,764 --> 00:49:35,767 (intense jazz music playing) 825 00:49:35,850 --> 00:49:37,560 Narrator: More than 40 years ago, 826 00:49:37,602 --> 00:49:40,980 he presented the world with a new idea in men's clothing. 827 00:49:41,064 --> 00:49:43,066 Forty-one liqueur glasses, 828 00:49:43,108 --> 00:49:45,694 each containing crème de menthe, a fly, 829 00:49:45,777 --> 00:49:47,195 and a straw. 830 00:49:47,278 --> 00:49:51,324 This, he said, was his aphrodisiac jacket. 831 00:49:52,242 --> 00:49:56,287 Dr. Powell: Donyale Luna famously says, "Modeling was just a fluke. 832 00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:58,665 Really what I wanna be is an actress." 833 00:50:01,668 --> 00:50:04,546 That guy with the hair. 834 00:50:04,629 --> 00:50:06,297 What about him? 835 00:50:06,381 --> 00:50:07,799 Dr. Powell: Deep down in her heart, 836 00:50:07,882 --> 00:50:09,175 she has this burning desire 837 00:50:09,259 --> 00:50:12,053 to be on stage and in film. 838 00:50:12,762 --> 00:50:16,057 She is aware of herself as another kind of beauty, 839 00:50:16,141 --> 00:50:18,685 as, as this extraordinary kind of figure, 840 00:50:18,768 --> 00:50:21,062 but she's also seeing the possibilities 841 00:50:21,146 --> 00:50:23,273 of being a part of conversations 842 00:50:23,314 --> 00:50:26,109 around new art, around performativity 843 00:50:26,151 --> 00:50:28,194 as, as an artistic statement. 844 00:50:28,278 --> 00:50:31,489 (playing modern jazz music) 845 00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:42,834 Juan: I worked with Salvador Dalí, 846 00:50:42,876 --> 00:50:46,671 El Divino, for almost seven years. 847 00:50:46,755 --> 00:50:49,090 (chuckles) 848 00:50:49,174 --> 00:50:54,262 Ahh! Who was, uh, Salvador Dalí? 849 00:50:54,804 --> 00:51:01,811 The most original, eccentric man I've ever met. 850 00:51:01,978 --> 00:51:05,482 Obsessed with entertaining himself, 851 00:51:05,523 --> 00:51:10,070 he wanted to be surrounded by things that were beautiful. 852 00:51:12,072 --> 00:51:14,324 David Croland: Dalí loved her. 853 00:51:14,366 --> 00:51:16,117 And then the day she came home 854 00:51:16,201 --> 00:51:18,661 wearing the dress that Dalí drew on her, 855 00:51:18,703 --> 00:51:21,790 she comes in, I said, "Where'd you get that dress?" 856 00:51:21,873 --> 00:51:25,293 She said, "Oh, it's a drawing Dalí did of me on the dress." 857 00:51:25,377 --> 00:51:29,589 I said, "Put that in a, a box and send it over to the Louvre. 858 00:51:29,673 --> 00:51:31,216 That's a piece of art." 859 00:51:31,299 --> 00:51:35,595 She goes, "You think so?" I said, "No. I don't think so, I know so." 860 00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:37,305 (crew chatting) 861 00:51:37,389 --> 00:51:41,059 One time, she came home with cuts all over her arms. 862 00:51:41,101 --> 00:51:42,519 Ow! 863 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,729 David Croland: I said, "Where were you?" 864 00:51:44,813 --> 00:51:47,399 She said, "Oh, baby, I just filmed, uh, 865 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,401 'Qui etes-vous, Polly Maggoo?'" 866 00:51:49,484 --> 00:51:52,612 "Who Are You, Polly Maggoo?" with, uh, William Klein. 867 00:51:52,696 --> 00:51:54,406 Dr. Powell: "Qui etes-vous, Polly Maggoo?" 868 00:51:54,447 --> 00:51:57,826 "Who Are You, Polly Maggoo?" 869 00:51:57,909 --> 00:51:59,744 The spoof on the fashion world 870 00:51:59,786 --> 00:52:02,747 and all of these kind of fashion mavens. 871 00:52:02,831 --> 00:52:04,416 People like Diana Vreeland, 872 00:52:04,499 --> 00:52:07,460 uh, the famous, um, fashion editor at, at "Vogue," 873 00:52:07,544 --> 00:52:09,754 who would be mesmerized and blown away 874 00:52:09,796 --> 00:52:11,840 when they see an extraordinary girl 875 00:52:11,923 --> 00:52:14,759 and would decide that she would be the girl of the moment. 876 00:52:14,843 --> 00:52:16,678 Magnifique! 877 00:52:16,761 --> 00:52:20,932 (chorus singing) 878 00:52:22,058 --> 00:52:24,561 Constance: Diana Vreeland was 879 00:52:24,602 --> 00:52:31,109 the quintessential fashion editor for American "Vogue." 880 00:52:31,192 --> 00:52:33,862 She was very well-versed in style. 881 00:52:33,945 --> 00:52:36,281 She had very strong opinions. 882 00:52:36,364 --> 00:52:39,868 She looked eccentric, she acted eccentric, 883 00:52:39,951 --> 00:52:44,372 and that only served to boost 884 00:52:44,456 --> 00:52:47,083 her mystique and her power. 885 00:52:47,125 --> 00:52:49,919 What she said mattered. 886 00:52:52,547 --> 00:52:55,175 One of the things she was most famous for 887 00:52:55,258 --> 00:53:00,305 is her extravagant, over-the-top photo shoots. 888 00:53:00,388 --> 00:53:05,352 And one of the most famous was "The Great Fur Caravan," 889 00:53:05,435 --> 00:53:08,521 and she created it with Richard Avedon in mind. 890 00:53:08,605 --> 00:53:11,941 He was the person she wanted to shoot it, no one else. 891 00:53:13,735 --> 00:53:16,196 This was one of the major shoots. 892 00:53:16,279 --> 00:53:19,449 It's said to be one of the most expensive. 893 00:53:19,491 --> 00:53:23,912 They were all to fly to Japan to shoot it, 894 00:53:23,995 --> 00:53:27,582 and Diana Vreeland gets Richard into her office 895 00:53:27,665 --> 00:53:30,835 and says, "Here's what I'd love you to do." 896 00:53:30,877 --> 00:53:36,007 And he says, "I have the perfect model in mind." 897 00:53:37,133 --> 00:53:40,428 And that person was Donyale Luna. 898 00:53:42,430 --> 00:53:45,350 Gideon: Avedon still believed in Donyale Luna 899 00:53:45,433 --> 00:53:47,477 when he went to American "Vogue," 900 00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:51,981 so he did a test shoot to present to them, 901 00:53:52,065 --> 00:53:54,567 so they won't be able to refuse. 902 00:53:54,651 --> 00:53:59,197 I mean, they did a great shot of her in a Paco Rabanne dress, 903 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,535 which was absolutely beautiful, beautiful. 904 00:54:07,038 --> 00:54:08,957 And that was rejected. 905 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,375 Uh... 906 00:54:11,459 --> 00:54:14,671 they were nuts. I mean, I can't explain. 907 00:54:14,713 --> 00:54:18,383 There's no rhyme or reason because it was a beautiful photograph. 908 00:54:18,425 --> 00:54:21,386 Rejected by American "Vogue." 909 00:54:21,469 --> 00:54:24,055 Too extreme for American "Vogue," 910 00:54:24,097 --> 00:54:26,808 and this is a-another question I'll ask Mrs. Vreeland, 911 00:54:26,891 --> 00:54:30,562 who made my career, by the way, as a-- not as a model, 912 00:54:30,645 --> 00:54:32,480 I was a model before I met her, 913 00:54:32,564 --> 00:54:34,566 as an artist, she was incredible. 914 00:54:34,607 --> 00:54:37,777 But she thought Donyale was too extreme for "Vogue." 915 00:54:37,861 --> 00:54:39,946 And I-I just have to repeat that. 916 00:54:40,030 --> 00:54:42,449 Too extreme for "Vogue?" Are you kidding me? 917 00:54:42,532 --> 00:54:46,411 Have you met Veruschka who you're using all the time? 918 00:54:46,494 --> 00:54:49,622 It was because she was Black. I'm sure of it. 919 00:54:53,626 --> 00:54:56,838 I feel like Donyale Luna's being was discounted 920 00:54:56,921 --> 00:54:59,132 because she was a Black woman in the world, 921 00:54:59,215 --> 00:55:01,968 and she wasn't even regarded as a full person by most. 922 00:55:02,052 --> 00:55:03,678 You know, this is a woman 923 00:55:03,762 --> 00:55:06,931 who upped herself from Detroit and moves to New York. 924 00:55:06,973 --> 00:55:08,558 She then moves to Europe. 925 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,727 She pushes to be on covers. 926 00:55:10,769 --> 00:55:15,523 She pushes to be the best of her class... and no one cares. 927 00:55:16,524 --> 00:55:19,361 How do you reconcile that? 928 00:55:23,114 --> 00:55:26,117 Dream: "I know I'm beautiful. 929 00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:30,288 "I know I'm the best model. 930 00:55:30,372 --> 00:55:34,125 So, why aren't I being photographed?" 931 00:55:38,254 --> 00:55:41,508 Producer: This is from Avedon's archive. 932 00:55:41,591 --> 00:55:45,845 So, he said, "We began to get closer to the day of departure, 933 00:55:45,929 --> 00:55:49,265 "and then the phone call came that I knew was coming. 934 00:55:49,307 --> 00:55:54,479 "It was Diana, who asked me to come to her office, and I did. 935 00:55:54,562 --> 00:55:56,815 "I sat down, a little small talk, 936 00:55:56,856 --> 00:56:01,820 "and then she said, 'Dick, you can't take Luna to Japan. 937 00:56:01,903 --> 00:56:06,658 She's nobody's idea of what anybody wants to look like.'" 938 00:56:07,659 --> 00:56:09,828 This is Dick's response. 939 00:56:09,911 --> 00:56:12,914 "I was so shocked and sick to my stomach. 940 00:56:12,997 --> 00:56:16,459 "I said, 'Diana, she's extraordinary.' 941 00:56:16,501 --> 00:56:20,630 And she said, 'So was King Kong.'" 942 00:56:40,734 --> 00:56:43,445 Thank you for reading that. 943 00:56:47,741 --> 00:56:52,746 Do you think that they, actually, told her about that? 944 00:56:52,829 --> 00:56:54,998 Producer: I don't think he told her 945 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,000 word for word what happened, 946 00:56:57,042 --> 00:57:02,213 but he also mentions in the archive that she wrote him a letter, 947 00:57:02,297 --> 00:57:04,799 which isn't here, unfortunately, 948 00:57:04,883 --> 00:57:09,387 but he says the letter was really heartbreaking because she said, 949 00:57:09,429 --> 00:57:12,640 "I know I'm good. I know I work hard," um, 950 00:57:12,724 --> 00:57:17,228 "I don't understand," you know, "why they won't hire me." 951 00:57:19,064 --> 00:57:20,523 Gonna make me cry. 952 00:57:20,565 --> 00:57:23,568 (cries, inaudible) 953 00:57:24,569 --> 00:57:27,822 It's, it's just not fair. 954 00:57:32,243 --> 00:57:34,746 (inhales) I'm not a crier. 955 00:57:40,293 --> 00:57:42,087 I'm not a crier. 956 00:57:50,929 --> 00:57:52,764 I'm not a crier. 957 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,483 It's accumulation of all the pain. 958 00:58:04,567 --> 00:58:06,569 It's accumulation of all the pain, 959 00:58:06,611 --> 00:58:08,905 all the answers to all-- 960 00:58:16,454 --> 00:58:19,207 It's, it's, it's why it hurts so bad. 961 00:58:21,418 --> 00:58:24,295 (contemplative music playing) 962 00:58:24,379 --> 00:58:26,089 Dream: "Am I happy? 963 00:58:27,549 --> 00:58:29,801 "A little, I suppose. 964 00:58:32,012 --> 00:58:33,972 "Everything that has happened to me 965 00:58:34,055 --> 00:58:37,183 "hasn't been easy to get used to. 966 00:58:37,267 --> 00:58:41,146 "I used to think everything was good and clear and right, 967 00:58:41,229 --> 00:58:44,024 "and now since I got into the modeling business, 968 00:58:44,107 --> 00:58:48,361 "I've seen so much that is ugly and unpleasant. 969 00:58:48,445 --> 00:58:53,533 I sometimes wish it had never even started for me." 970 00:58:54,951 --> 00:58:58,663 Aurora: I think as humans, we really all need acceptance. 971 00:58:58,705 --> 00:59:01,624 We need to feel valued. 972 00:59:01,666 --> 00:59:05,587 Here you have an extraordinary woman, 973 00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:08,840 who was complicated, as we all are. 974 00:59:08,882 --> 00:59:12,344 Beautiful, talented, vibrant, 975 00:59:12,427 --> 00:59:15,555 and she was not able to exist 976 00:59:15,638 --> 00:59:19,851 in this structure that our society has created. 977 00:59:19,934 --> 00:59:24,022 We continued to tell her that she was not good enough. 978 00:59:24,856 --> 00:59:26,691 David Bailey: It was Liberman, actually, 979 00:59:26,733 --> 00:59:29,611 the American creative head of Condé Nast. 980 00:59:29,694 --> 00:59:31,654 "Don't ever do pictures like this again, 981 00:59:31,696 --> 00:59:33,865 otherwise, you'll never work for 'Vogue' again." 982 00:59:34,866 --> 00:59:37,118 For ages, I thought that he didn't like 'em 'cause 983 00:59:37,202 --> 00:59:39,704 they were two girls in the pictures together, but it wasn't. 984 00:59:39,746 --> 00:59:41,998 It was, uh-- He was talking about them being Black, 985 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,792 but he couldn't come out and say it. 986 00:59:43,875 --> 00:59:47,879 Gideon: So, here is the, the original shot of Donyale 987 00:59:47,962 --> 00:59:50,715 for "Vogue" that was rejected. 988 00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:56,346 And then the reshoot of the Paco Rabanne on another girl, 989 00:59:56,429 --> 01:00:00,392 who was really not our favorite girl, 990 01:00:00,433 --> 01:00:03,395 and you see the difference. 991 01:00:06,064 --> 01:00:08,817 Dream: Yeah, I feel for her. 992 01:00:10,694 --> 01:00:12,737 I never realized that, uh, 993 01:00:12,821 --> 01:00:18,034 it was so, like, shut off for her there. 994 01:00:18,076 --> 01:00:22,080 So, I guess it was sad because it resonated 995 01:00:22,122 --> 01:00:27,877 with, uh, that little girl that no one thought it was beautiful. 996 01:00:31,297 --> 01:00:34,676 She must've felt, um... 997 01:00:34,759 --> 01:00:40,432 alone and, um, misunderstood and not seen again. 998 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,229 And it's hard to... 999 01:00:46,271 --> 01:00:53,028 to keep that connection to your inner light when it's that hard. 1000 01:00:55,613 --> 01:00:58,283 (ethereal music playing) 1001 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,040 David Croland: One day, we took acid in our apartment... 1002 01:01:05,123 --> 01:01:08,835 and Donyale had never taken acid, not yet. 1003 01:01:12,797 --> 01:01:16,801 So, we-we got high, and, uh, I said 1004 01:01:16,885 --> 01:01:20,513 to some of my friends, I said, "Where's Donyale?" 1005 01:01:20,597 --> 01:01:23,683 And no one knew where she was. 1006 01:01:23,767 --> 01:01:25,935 She was gone. 1007 01:01:29,105 --> 01:01:30,940 She surfaced. 1008 01:01:32,609 --> 01:01:33,902 I said, "Where were you?" 1009 01:01:33,985 --> 01:01:36,363 She said, "Oh, I was walking around Paris." 1010 01:01:36,446 --> 01:01:38,740 I said, "For three days?!" 1011 01:01:41,826 --> 01:01:45,580 She enjoyed, I think, being, uh, detached from being Donyale Luna, 1012 01:01:45,663 --> 01:01:50,710 and the, the whole... staring 24/7 wherever she went. 1013 01:01:50,794 --> 01:01:53,254 It made her feel free to not have all this 1014 01:01:53,338 --> 01:01:57,258 peripheral objectification around her. 1015 01:01:57,342 --> 01:01:58,593 That was my take on it. 1016 01:01:58,677 --> 01:02:02,472 Uh, but the other take is that she just liked being high. 1017 01:02:02,514 --> 01:02:04,182 Loved it. 1018 01:02:09,145 --> 01:02:12,524 Dream: "It's so difficult here. 1019 01:02:12,607 --> 01:02:15,944 "I feel so alone. 1020 01:02:16,027 --> 01:02:20,365 "Where is the place where I feel at home? 1021 01:02:20,448 --> 01:02:26,830 "And where is the place where, finally, I'm seen for who I am 1022 01:02:26,871 --> 01:02:31,251 and I am loved for who I am?" 1023 01:02:39,050 --> 01:02:41,219 (peaceful music playing) 1024 01:02:48,768 --> 01:02:53,565 Dream: "The gods saw that she was ready to receive her mate. 1025 01:02:57,193 --> 01:03:00,030 "On a magic moonlit night 1026 01:03:00,071 --> 01:03:05,827 "came onto her side a beautiful, bright shining star. 1027 01:03:08,329 --> 01:03:12,083 "And when she looked into his eyes, 1028 01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:19,007 the little girl smiled and said, 'My name is Luna.'" 1029 01:03:32,937 --> 01:03:35,190 Luigi Cazzaniga: So many memories. 1030 01:03:39,444 --> 01:03:44,449 I was in Rome when I met my wife, Donyale Luna. 1031 01:03:44,491 --> 01:03:47,077 It was 1969. 1032 01:03:47,202 --> 01:03:51,331 I was a photographer and she was a model. 1033 01:03:53,124 --> 01:03:55,669 You wake up one morning and you say, "Oh, my God, 1034 01:03:55,752 --> 01:03:58,630 the poppies, they are out. Let's go." 1035 01:03:58,672 --> 01:04:02,842 She was obsessed with the pictures to be perfect, 1036 01:04:02,926 --> 01:04:06,596 and she teach me how to put my intention 1037 01:04:06,638 --> 01:04:09,015 into when you do work. 1038 01:04:10,642 --> 01:04:14,938 She spoke Italian very little, maybe three words. 1039 01:04:14,979 --> 01:04:16,481 And I didn't speak much English 1040 01:04:16,564 --> 01:04:19,150 because, in school, I learned French. 1041 01:04:19,192 --> 01:04:23,697 If you want, I can tell you how we communicated. 1042 01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:28,159 Sometime, on LSD. 1043 01:04:28,243 --> 01:04:29,452 (chuckles) 1044 01:04:30,995 --> 01:04:32,997 We would be in a park 1045 01:04:33,289 --> 01:04:35,000 and she would be far away, 1046 01:04:35,041 --> 01:04:37,002 and on LSD you see all these things, 1047 01:04:37,043 --> 01:04:41,548 these flowers and psychedelic stuff. 1048 01:04:41,631 --> 01:04:45,343 From far away she would go, "Chh, chh, chh," 1049 01:04:45,427 --> 01:04:49,139 and then all around me goes, "Pshhh," flowers! 1050 01:04:49,180 --> 01:04:51,016 (exotic music playing) 1051 01:04:51,099 --> 01:04:53,226 And I would answer, "Psh, psh!" 1052 01:04:53,309 --> 01:04:57,355 (garbled transmission from flight control) 1053 01:04:57,397 --> 01:05:00,400 We were counterculture 'cause we, we smoked pot, 1054 01:05:00,483 --> 01:05:03,737 we smoked hashish, and we took LSD. 1055 01:05:03,820 --> 01:05:06,740 We loved to make love, 1056 01:05:06,823 --> 01:05:11,703 and we loved to go out and, uh, and, uh, take pictures. 1057 01:05:15,415 --> 01:05:19,794 Dream: "Luigi, my love, my king, my everything. 1058 01:05:19,878 --> 01:05:24,799 "I have come to you, and with you, I stay forever more. 1059 01:05:24,883 --> 01:05:29,054 May all the gods bless us and help us." 1060 01:05:31,639 --> 01:05:33,224 (dramatic soundtrack playing) 1061 01:05:33,266 --> 01:05:37,062 Dr. Powell: By 1968, 1969, 1062 01:05:37,103 --> 01:05:39,230 she's continuing to do fashion, 1063 01:05:39,272 --> 01:05:41,399 but that's not important to her anymore. 1064 01:05:41,483 --> 01:05:44,069 Now, she's really, really interested in, kind of, 1065 01:05:44,152 --> 01:05:47,781 avant-garde film and avant-garde theater. 1066 01:05:47,864 --> 01:05:49,741 (indistinct dialogue) 1067 01:05:49,824 --> 01:05:52,369 Dr. Powell: And so, it was no surprise that the films 1068 01:05:52,410 --> 01:05:53,870 that she begins to do after that 1069 01:05:53,912 --> 01:05:56,498 kind of reflect this kind of performative, 1070 01:05:56,581 --> 01:05:59,417 conceptual avant-garde activity. 1071 01:05:59,459 --> 01:06:02,545 I'm thinking about Federico Fellini's "Satyricon." 1072 01:06:02,587 --> 01:06:04,214 (giggles) 1073 01:06:04,255 --> 01:06:06,424 Federico Fellini: Look to me. 1074 01:06:06,466 --> 01:06:07,676 More. Left. 1075 01:06:07,759 --> 01:06:11,262 Dr. Powell: As well as Carmelo Bene's, uh, "Salome." 1076 01:06:11,596 --> 01:06:13,431 (speaking Italian) 1077 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,104 ...come la luna. 1078 01:06:21,022 --> 01:06:22,982 (bell tolling) 1079 01:06:23,066 --> 01:06:28,071 Constance: Donyale really seemed to have found a home in Italy. 1080 01:06:28,113 --> 01:06:30,657 She was working on her art, 1081 01:06:30,740 --> 01:06:35,537 and she was doing beautifully composed photographs. 1082 01:06:35,620 --> 01:06:36,871 Almost like she became 1083 01:06:36,955 --> 01:06:39,290 a creative director herself. 1084 01:06:40,875 --> 01:06:45,213 At a certain point, she wrote a, a story called "Lunaflylaby." 1085 01:06:45,296 --> 01:06:47,215 She wanted to make a children book. 1086 01:06:47,799 --> 01:06:53,096 And, uh, the subject was, practically, the story of her life. 1087 01:06:53,138 --> 01:06:55,432 And she expressed in this book, 1088 01:06:55,473 --> 01:06:58,810 lot of her, uh, feeling about the world. 1089 01:06:59,936 --> 01:07:03,314 Dream: "Love is my law. 1090 01:07:03,356 --> 01:07:06,901 "Truth is my worship. 1091 01:07:06,985 --> 01:07:11,948 "Beauty and perfection is my life. 1092 01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:14,242 Chick-a-boom." 1093 01:07:14,325 --> 01:07:18,204 Livia Liverani: I met Donyale Luna when I was 16, 1094 01:07:18,288 --> 01:07:22,792 and, uh, she was, um, 1095 01:07:22,834 --> 01:07:25,420 a very special creature. 1096 01:07:26,504 --> 01:07:30,050 I mean, I had the feeling that I was 1097 01:07:30,133 --> 01:07:33,845 in presence of a goddess, um. 1098 01:07:33,928 --> 01:07:36,222 I mean, uh, Nefertiti, 1099 01:07:36,306 --> 01:07:41,227 or someone who's closer to the-- a deity. 1100 01:07:42,937 --> 01:07:46,232 She was, I think, very happy 1101 01:07:46,316 --> 01:07:49,569 to be in her own environment 1102 01:07:49,652 --> 01:07:52,197 and be free. 1103 01:07:53,865 --> 01:07:57,911 I think she imagined 1104 01:07:57,994 --> 01:08:01,456 that she could leave the pain behind. 1105 01:08:02,832 --> 01:08:06,795 Everything she had experienced in childhood, 1106 01:08:06,878 --> 01:08:11,216 but also what she experienced as a Black woman 1107 01:08:11,299 --> 01:08:13,635 in the fashion industry. 1108 01:08:17,971 --> 01:08:21,267 I wonder if she, in fact, 1109 01:08:21,350 --> 01:08:24,270 at that point, had found peace, 1110 01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:31,569 had found a place to really rest her soul. 1111 01:08:37,908 --> 01:08:39,786 Luigi: We were together. 1112 01:08:39,868 --> 01:08:41,871 We loved each other. 1113 01:08:41,912 --> 01:08:44,791 So, we made the child. 1114 01:08:44,874 --> 01:08:46,626 Everything went smooth, 1115 01:08:46,710 --> 01:08:51,715 and then after, uh, she had the, the child, 1116 01:08:51,756 --> 01:08:53,675 and she was very happy, 1117 01:08:53,758 --> 01:08:57,929 and I brought her a champagne and flowers and a joint. 1118 01:09:00,265 --> 01:09:02,350 (baby cooing) 1119 01:09:06,270 --> 01:09:08,982 (indistinct chatter) 1120 01:09:09,064 --> 01:09:12,444 Dream: "Today, a Dream was born. 1121 01:09:12,484 --> 01:09:15,029 "The daughter of Luigi and Luna. 1122 01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:19,408 "Wow! Chick-a-boom and Hallelujah! 1123 01:09:19,451 --> 01:09:22,620 "She's perfect in every way. 1124 01:09:22,703 --> 01:09:27,917 Yes. A dream has really come true." 1125 01:09:29,294 --> 01:09:31,379 (contemplative music playing) 1126 01:09:38,261 --> 01:09:42,098 I don't have vivid memories of her, 1127 01:09:42,140 --> 01:09:45,894 but I have flashes of her. 1128 01:09:49,939 --> 01:09:51,483 Like, if I close my eyes, 1129 01:09:51,566 --> 01:09:57,989 I can see the color of her skin, her freckles. 1130 01:09:58,031 --> 01:10:01,868 I remember this part. 1131 01:10:01,951 --> 01:10:04,829 I remember her hands. 1132 01:10:04,913 --> 01:10:08,041 I guess those parts that I was really close to 1133 01:10:08,124 --> 01:10:10,502 when she was holding me. 1134 01:10:14,756 --> 01:10:19,302 Her absence left a, a big hole in everybody's life. 1135 01:10:19,344 --> 01:10:22,222 I mean, in mine and in my dad's life, 1136 01:10:22,305 --> 01:10:24,474 and we coped differently, 1137 01:10:24,516 --> 01:10:27,686 and we coped, uh, separately in a way 1138 01:10:27,727 --> 01:10:30,605 because I was too young to understand, 1139 01:10:30,689 --> 01:10:31,731 and because he-- 1140 01:10:31,815 --> 01:10:35,694 it was too hard for him to find the right words 1141 01:10:35,777 --> 01:10:39,739 to share his, uh, feelings and his emotions. 1142 01:10:46,162 --> 01:10:47,914 (Luigi speaking Italian) 1143 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:52,293 Ready? 1144 01:10:53,211 --> 01:10:54,963 (speaking Italian) 1145 01:10:58,675 --> 01:11:01,886 It was much different, was much more wild, 1146 01:11:01,970 --> 01:11:06,558 and, um, it took me a year and a half to build the house. 1147 01:11:07,892 --> 01:11:11,396 Dream: How was it when we were here with her? 1148 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,524 We loved it. We loved it. We have the kid. 1149 01:11:14,566 --> 01:11:18,945 You had your r-room, um, your special room. 1150 01:11:19,029 --> 01:11:23,241 And, uh, I did a lot of changing, and she did too. 1151 01:11:23,283 --> 01:11:25,326 She was, uh, breastfeeding you. 1152 01:11:25,410 --> 01:11:28,246 Here we, we planted the garden, 1153 01:11:28,288 --> 01:11:31,291 and your mother, she was vegetarian. 1154 01:11:31,374 --> 01:11:33,251 -She was? Really? -Mostly. 1155 01:11:33,293 --> 01:11:36,129 But she also would like a, a nice cheeseburger. 1156 01:11:36,212 --> 01:11:37,422 Dream: Ah. 1157 01:11:37,464 --> 01:11:40,216 I have this vision of her, um, 1158 01:11:40,258 --> 01:11:44,220 with no makeup, wearing a, a long skirt 1159 01:11:44,262 --> 01:11:45,889 and, uh, sweeping the house. 1160 01:11:45,972 --> 01:11:50,352 That was very cute, and I-I have that vision I remember. 1161 01:11:50,435 --> 01:11:52,562 Dream: Do you remember these stairs? 1162 01:11:52,604 --> 01:11:54,397 Luigi: I remember the stairs. 1163 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,691 The light, it was only one lightbulb... 1164 01:11:56,775 --> 01:11:58,568 -Uh-huh. -...just hanging from a wire. 1165 01:11:58,610 --> 01:12:00,904 It was nothing like this. 1166 01:12:00,945 --> 01:12:04,449 Dream: And you did light brown 'cause she asked you to? 1167 01:12:04,532 --> 01:12:07,952 I-If you didn't smoke or do drugs, you were... 1168 01:12:07,994 --> 01:12:11,081 -Square. -...square, so that was the thing. 1169 01:12:13,625 --> 01:12:18,505 Dream: "We found a home in a tree in the magic forest. 1170 01:12:18,588 --> 01:12:23,051 "Finally, our home has risen higher to the sky 1171 01:12:23,134 --> 01:12:28,056 and so, now, we begin to learn how to fly." 1172 01:12:30,725 --> 01:12:32,811 Livia: This place was truly magic. 1173 01:12:32,852 --> 01:12:36,398 She was, like, 1174 01:12:36,481 --> 01:12:39,025 enlightening this place 1175 01:12:39,109 --> 01:12:41,903 with her personality, 1176 01:12:41,986 --> 01:12:44,572 was always music, 1177 01:12:44,656 --> 01:12:47,951 always celebration, always-- 1178 01:12:47,992 --> 01:12:49,411 You know? 1179 01:12:49,494 --> 01:12:55,458 She was so different and in very beautiful way. 1180 01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:59,004 So pure. I mean, very pure soul. 1181 01:12:59,087 --> 01:13:02,257 She was just one to spread love, 1182 01:13:02,340 --> 01:13:08,263 and that's why I think she was misunderstood for most of the time. 1183 01:13:08,346 --> 01:13:10,015 By who? 1184 01:13:10,098 --> 01:13:11,975 By everyone. 1185 01:13:17,522 --> 01:13:21,192 Luigi: My mother, she didn't like, uh, 1186 01:13:21,234 --> 01:13:23,069 my relation with Donyale. 1187 01:13:23,528 --> 01:13:27,449 Because one evening in the evening newspaper 1188 01:13:27,532 --> 01:13:29,701 there was a big title that says, "Donyale Luna, 1189 01:13:29,743 --> 01:13:32,328 "she wants to rent a helicopter 1190 01:13:32,370 --> 01:13:34,706 and spread marijuana over the Vatican." 1191 01:13:35,165 --> 01:13:37,292 My mom was super Catholic, 1192 01:13:37,375 --> 01:13:41,880 so finished of the relation, never ever forever and ever. 1193 01:13:41,921 --> 01:13:45,175 "Goodbye and, uh, go fuck yourself." Something like that. 1194 01:13:45,216 --> 01:13:47,427 Technically and practically. 1195 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:51,389 So, uh, this was the situation. 1196 01:13:51,473 --> 01:13:56,561 She never t-told me that, that it was Luigi's family that rejected her. 1197 01:13:56,644 --> 01:14:01,399 She never told me that, but I can see... it was that. 1198 01:14:02,233 --> 01:14:06,446 Livia: They were very conservative family, 1199 01:14:06,529 --> 01:14:11,534 so they-they couldn't... 1200 01:14:11,576 --> 01:14:13,536 not even... 1201 01:14:13,620 --> 01:14:19,668 not only accept, but understand or understood who she was. 1202 01:14:22,337 --> 01:14:24,923 She wasn't allowed 1203 01:14:24,964 --> 01:14:29,761 even to enter Luigi's parents' house. 1204 01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:38,812 Dream: "Oh, dear gods, it's so difficult here. 1205 01:14:38,895 --> 01:14:43,274 "If you all only knew what it feels like. 1206 01:14:43,316 --> 01:14:46,736 It's so heartbreaking." 1207 01:14:46,778 --> 01:14:49,572 Luigi: We didn't have a, a job here 1208 01:14:49,614 --> 01:14:52,450 or a, a way to make money here. 1209 01:14:52,492 --> 01:14:56,204 So, after you were born, your grandma, she said, 1210 01:14:56,287 --> 01:15:00,625 "What are you doing there being just babysitting and being a nurse? 1211 01:15:00,709 --> 01:15:02,752 You have to go and find work." 1212 01:15:02,794 --> 01:15:05,797 After a while I found some work in the movie, 1213 01:15:05,839 --> 01:15:08,466 and I don't remember exactly, 1214 01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:10,510 but, you know, at a certain point 1215 01:15:10,593 --> 01:15:13,054 I spent more time in the car than here. 1216 01:15:14,639 --> 01:15:18,643 Livia: I think, uh, he didn't realize 1217 01:15:18,685 --> 01:15:24,607 how difficult it was for Donyale and Dream 1218 01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:28,987 be alone in the house in the middle of the forest. 1219 01:15:29,863 --> 01:15:34,492 This was very, very, very difficult for her. 1220 01:15:34,534 --> 01:15:38,329 -I'm sure it was. -Yeah. 1221 01:15:38,413 --> 01:15:42,459 She was truly lonely. 1222 01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:48,173 And, uh, this loneliness, um... 1223 01:15:48,214 --> 01:15:52,927 I think was... the problem. 1224 01:15:59,517 --> 01:16:05,190 Donyale became very depressed. 1225 01:16:09,694 --> 01:16:14,074 (baby talk, baby laughing) 1226 01:16:14,157 --> 01:16:20,246 Dream went to stay with Luigi's parents after a while. 1227 01:16:20,330 --> 01:16:23,583 And, uh, yeah. 1228 01:16:27,629 --> 01:16:29,631 That was... 1229 01:16:29,714 --> 01:16:35,178 really like a sort of torture, I think. 1230 01:16:35,220 --> 01:16:37,681 So, she was very angry. 1231 01:16:37,722 --> 01:16:41,393 I remember she was very, very angry. 1232 01:16:43,228 --> 01:16:48,733 Dream: "Please, gods, give me the strength and power 1233 01:16:48,775 --> 01:16:53,988 to raise above this weakness in my mind and body." 1234 01:17:06,251 --> 01:17:10,213 A mom and a daughter are meant to stay together. 1235 01:17:14,092 --> 01:17:19,764 When I had my children, it was incredible. 1236 01:17:19,806 --> 01:17:22,976 I never wanted them to feel that 1237 01:17:23,059 --> 01:17:26,688 when they needed me I wasn't there. 1238 01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:31,776 Probably as a reflection of, uh, knowing deep in my heart 1239 01:17:31,818 --> 01:17:35,030 how sad it is to be apart from your mom. 1240 01:17:36,573 --> 01:17:40,368 There's a, a sense of, uh, separation 1241 01:17:40,452 --> 01:17:44,205 that kind of lies, um... 1242 01:17:44,289 --> 01:17:50,128 in, in my heart... almost a physical pain. 1243 01:17:52,756 --> 01:17:55,467 I need to forgive the feeling 1244 01:17:55,508 --> 01:17:59,262 of, uh, being left without her. 1245 01:18:08,897 --> 01:18:13,818 Livia: When I saw her in Rome, she was changed. 1246 01:18:13,860 --> 01:18:16,738 Definitely, she had changed. 1247 01:18:16,821 --> 01:18:21,743 She was, uh, sad. Very sad. 1248 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,665 Pat: I'm somewhere in Rome, 1249 01:18:27,707 --> 01:18:32,128 and everyone in the room was totally quiet when she came in. 1250 01:18:32,170 --> 01:18:36,299 It was like something shut off all the doors to the universe 1251 01:18:36,341 --> 01:18:38,426 and it was just quiet. 1252 01:18:39,761 --> 01:18:43,598 And I sat down right across from her, 1253 01:18:44,224 --> 01:18:47,018 and this is where something happened 1254 01:18:47,060 --> 01:18:50,939 that was very heartbreaking for me. 1255 01:18:51,022 --> 01:18:54,859 She said, "I just had to talk to you. 1256 01:18:54,943 --> 01:18:57,737 "I have to talk to someone. 1257 01:18:59,155 --> 01:19:02,742 "I have to let you know who I am. 1258 01:19:02,826 --> 01:19:06,037 "I don't know if I can live with this much longer. 1259 01:19:06,079 --> 01:19:09,791 "I am so unhappy, and I, I have to talk to you. 1260 01:19:09,874 --> 01:19:11,001 "I have to talk to you. 1261 01:19:11,042 --> 01:19:13,545 Can you save me? Can you save me?" 1262 01:19:13,586 --> 01:19:15,839 And I was, like, aston-- I was, 1263 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,384 "My God, what's going on? What's going on?" 1264 01:19:19,467 --> 01:19:22,095 She's like, "I'm just a girl from America. 1265 01:19:22,178 --> 01:19:25,473 "I'm just a girl from America. 1266 01:19:25,515 --> 01:19:27,350 Can you save me? Can you save me?" 1267 01:19:27,392 --> 01:19:31,563 And I thought, "What the heck? What am I gonna do?" You know? 1268 01:19:31,646 --> 01:19:36,234 And it was Donyale Luna, my goddess, the person I-- 1269 01:19:36,276 --> 01:19:39,404 You know, all this fantasy, all of this stuff, you know, 1270 01:19:39,446 --> 01:19:41,948 how she projects her life, how she's a goddess. 1271 01:19:42,032 --> 01:19:44,409 I mean, here I was with her 1272 01:19:44,451 --> 01:19:48,163 confessing her true other self to me, 1273 01:19:48,246 --> 01:19:51,541 and I was-- I didn't know-- "Just don't tell anybody. 1274 01:19:51,583 --> 01:19:55,754 "Don't tell anybody what I'm telling you, but I need help. 1275 01:19:55,837 --> 01:19:58,590 "I need help. I'm, I'm in a lot of trouble. 1276 01:19:58,631 --> 01:20:00,759 Nobody loves me." 1277 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,720 I said, "Well, why don't you just go home?" 1278 01:20:03,762 --> 01:20:05,305 "I can't go home." 1279 01:20:05,388 --> 01:20:08,558 I said, "Go back to where you came from, your home." 1280 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,019 "I can't go there." 1281 01:20:11,102 --> 01:20:16,191 And the tragic thing is that there was nothing I can do. 1282 01:20:19,569 --> 01:20:22,655 You know, there was nothing I could do to help her, 1283 01:20:22,739 --> 01:20:24,991 and that's the tragic thing. 1284 01:20:32,290 --> 01:20:36,878 Omar: She never was into heroin (stammers) when I knew her. 1285 01:20:38,171 --> 01:20:42,342 I mean, we-- maybe a little weed, but nothing heavy. 1286 01:20:44,636 --> 01:20:48,932 But I don't wanna paint an ugly picture of her 'cause no, uh-uh. 1287 01:20:48,973 --> 01:20:52,811 It was-- She was innocent even doin' her drugs. 1288 01:20:52,852 --> 01:20:55,772 There was some demon in her that was-- 1289 01:20:55,814 --> 01:21:00,026 that caused her to resort to drugs. 1290 01:21:07,617 --> 01:21:11,162 Yeah. I-- When I think back o-of that time, 1291 01:21:11,246 --> 01:21:16,084 I could see it so vivid in my mind's eye, you know? 1292 01:21:21,297 --> 01:21:24,884 Just wasn't-- That's what-- where she shouldn't have been. 1293 01:21:49,117 --> 01:21:51,077 Luigi: We went to Rome. 1294 01:21:52,412 --> 01:21:54,039 We didn't sleep in the same place 1295 01:21:54,122 --> 01:21:59,377 because of, uh, my mother didn't wanna, uh, see her. 1296 01:22:01,379 --> 01:22:05,050 So, I went with the kid to my parents' house, 1297 01:22:05,133 --> 01:22:08,178 and she went to sleep with friends. 1298 01:22:14,225 --> 01:22:19,230 I got a call from, uh, the woman where she stayed, and, uh, 1299 01:22:19,314 --> 01:22:22,692 and she said, "Oh, she's passed away. She's passed away." 1300 01:22:22,734 --> 01:22:25,737 And I said, "No, no, no. She probably took a sleeping pill. 1301 01:22:25,779 --> 01:22:27,238 She does like that sometime." 1302 01:22:27,322 --> 01:22:29,574 She said, "No, no, no, this really-- 1303 01:22:29,657 --> 01:22:33,244 I don't think she's doing any good, I don't think she's breathing." 1304 01:22:33,328 --> 01:22:35,789 So, I took the car and I run there. 1305 01:22:35,872 --> 01:22:39,709 I arrive there and at the same time that I arrive, 1306 01:22:39,751 --> 01:22:41,753 it was the 9-1-1. 1307 01:22:41,961 --> 01:22:43,296 (siren wailing) 1308 01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:46,049 At the time, we didn't have much money. 1309 01:22:46,091 --> 01:22:49,844 So, we didn't have no hashish, no marijuana. 1310 01:22:49,928 --> 01:22:52,806 So, she probably found a lady 1311 01:22:52,889 --> 01:22:54,265 that, uh, she said, 1312 01:22:54,307 --> 01:22:59,145 "Oh, yeah, I can take this," and sh-she went. 1313 01:23:00,188 --> 01:23:03,274 Donyale Luna, whose exotic looks helped her to become 1314 01:23:03,358 --> 01:23:07,195 one of the first successful Black fashion models, died last month. 1315 01:23:07,278 --> 01:23:09,155 Donyale, whose modeling assignments 1316 01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:11,199 included "Harper's Bazaar" and "Vogue," 1317 01:23:11,282 --> 01:23:12,617 died of heart failure. 1318 01:23:12,659 --> 01:23:14,244 She was 33. 1319 01:23:21,292 --> 01:23:26,715 I got a phone call from her husband, Luigi, 1320 01:23:26,798 --> 01:23:31,761 and he was very distraught and, you know, crying. 1321 01:23:31,803 --> 01:23:34,014 Uh... 1322 01:23:35,056 --> 01:23:39,144 he told me that, uh, she had passed. 1323 01:23:44,983 --> 01:23:46,693 He said she died from a overdose. 1324 01:23:46,776 --> 01:23:50,321 I said, "No, no, no, no, no. That's, that's wrong." 1325 01:23:50,363 --> 01:23:52,574 She didn't, she didn't participate-- 1326 01:23:52,657 --> 01:23:57,078 She might participate, but when she participated, as far as I knew, 1327 01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:02,083 it was like a little taste of this maybe, some wine, 1328 01:24:02,167 --> 01:24:05,170 some-- a little w-weed, you know? 1329 01:24:05,211 --> 01:24:07,756 But nothing, nothing addictive. 1330 01:24:07,839 --> 01:24:11,176 She wasn't addicted to anything as far as I knew. 1331 01:24:11,634 --> 01:24:16,556 I don't believe that it was an overdose of drugs. 1332 01:24:20,185 --> 01:24:23,104 She had just had a child, for Christ's sakes. 1333 01:24:24,564 --> 01:24:26,316 What mother... 1334 01:24:28,068 --> 01:24:31,696 would create a situation 1335 01:24:31,738 --> 01:24:34,074 that she ODs from drugs? 1336 01:24:38,203 --> 01:24:40,413 I don't believe it. 1337 01:24:45,335 --> 01:24:48,338 David Croland: Donyale was not suicidal. 1338 01:24:48,380 --> 01:24:50,423 She loved life. She loved people. 1339 01:24:50,507 --> 01:24:53,718 She loved... loved her life. 1340 01:24:55,887 --> 01:24:58,223 Her heart just gave out. 1341 01:25:02,227 --> 01:25:04,562 There's one scene that I'm gonna tell you. 1342 01:25:04,604 --> 01:25:06,731 This is, uh, I never talked about it. 1343 01:25:06,815 --> 01:25:11,903 But when we went to Rome, um, the day before she died, 1344 01:25:11,986 --> 01:25:14,447 and she got off the car because, uh, 1345 01:25:14,531 --> 01:25:18,201 and she took you in her arms and then she crossed the street. 1346 01:25:18,243 --> 01:25:20,704 She almost got run over by a truck. 1347 01:25:20,745 --> 01:25:24,749 And she went to give you in the hands of your babysitters. 1348 01:25:24,791 --> 01:25:29,462 So, that's, uh, and then, and then she died the night, 1349 01:25:29,546 --> 01:25:30,630 the same night. 1350 01:25:30,714 --> 01:25:32,757 So, maybe she was feeling something. 1351 01:25:32,841 --> 01:25:34,592 Maybe she was, you know? 1352 01:25:34,676 --> 01:25:36,553 Wow. 1353 01:25:37,929 --> 01:25:41,016 And we were in front of, uh, the grandparents' house? 1354 01:25:41,099 --> 01:25:42,600 Yeah. 1355 01:25:49,232 --> 01:25:55,321 It sounds like, uh, it was a sort of a... 1356 01:25:56,865 --> 01:26:00,702 goodbye, in a way, to, to me. 1357 01:26:00,785 --> 01:26:02,746 That's what I think. 1358 01:26:02,787 --> 01:26:07,083 That's what I identify as a goodbye, but, you know, 1359 01:26:07,125 --> 01:26:09,627 I don't think she wanted to die. 1360 01:26:32,317 --> 01:26:36,279 Dream: They told me a story I could understand 1361 01:26:36,321 --> 01:26:39,449 of how she passed, 1362 01:26:39,491 --> 01:26:42,619 but it was actually the truth. 1363 01:26:43,953 --> 01:26:49,584 She passed because her heart was, uh, broken. 1364 01:26:54,047 --> 01:26:56,299 I love you, Mom. 1365 01:26:58,343 --> 01:27:00,720 And I know you do too. 1366 01:27:00,804 --> 01:27:02,305 I know. 1367 01:27:16,569 --> 01:27:22,534 What would you like to tell her if she was here with us? 1368 01:27:22,617 --> 01:27:24,786 Luigi: "Why did you leave?" 1369 01:27:27,539 --> 01:27:30,834 Dream: And what do you think she would answer? 1370 01:27:30,875 --> 01:27:32,460 (wind blowing softly) 1371 01:27:32,544 --> 01:27:37,966 Luigi: Listen to the wind and maybe she'll tell you why. 1372 01:27:46,433 --> 01:27:48,935 Dream: Maybe she just had to go. 1373 01:27:59,070 --> 01:28:02,073 (projector rattling) 1374 01:28:02,115 --> 01:28:04,951 (peaceful music playing) 1375 01:28:10,373 --> 01:28:13,626 Kyle Hagler: I hope that we see Donyale Luna 1376 01:28:13,710 --> 01:28:17,339 as the personification of the ability 1377 01:28:17,422 --> 01:28:20,759 to be whoever you want to be. 1378 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,678 Beverly: Of all the Black models, 1379 01:28:23,762 --> 01:28:26,723 Donyale was the crown jewel. 1380 01:28:26,765 --> 01:28:30,894 She was the one-- I'm getting chills just talking about it, 1381 01:28:31,102 --> 01:28:37,359 that invented herself and made space for her artistry. 1382 01:28:38,026 --> 01:28:42,280 Constance: Image representation matters. 1383 01:28:42,322 --> 01:28:45,200 Donyale Luna matters, 1384 01:28:45,283 --> 01:28:48,661 and her legacy is so much more 1385 01:28:48,745 --> 01:28:52,123 than what she accomplished just within her career. 1386 01:28:52,207 --> 01:28:54,292 Dream: Who is this one? Nonna? 1387 01:28:54,376 --> 01:28:56,127 -Luna. -Luna! 1388 01:28:56,211 --> 01:28:57,796 "Once upon a time--" 1389 01:28:57,837 --> 01:29:00,006 Kyle: Some people might say 1390 01:29:00,090 --> 01:29:01,841 that she should have done more 1391 01:29:01,925 --> 01:29:05,345 in terms of the advocacy of our people, 1392 01:29:05,428 --> 01:29:08,473 but then others could also say and argue 1393 01:29:08,556 --> 01:29:13,603 that her being in these predominantly white spaces 1394 01:29:13,645 --> 01:29:16,314 was an act of revolution in itself. 1395 01:29:16,356 --> 01:29:17,982 Omar: She was a star. 1396 01:29:18,066 --> 01:29:22,028 She had her faults, just like we all do, you know. 1397 01:29:22,112 --> 01:29:24,572 But she was a role model 1398 01:29:24,656 --> 01:29:27,450 for all the girls who have come and passed through. 1399 01:29:27,492 --> 01:29:30,578 Aurora: We still see her influence today. 1400 01:29:30,662 --> 01:29:33,164 Something about her really resonates with us, 1401 01:29:33,248 --> 01:29:36,001 you know, because she was different. 1402 01:29:36,042 --> 01:29:40,672 And I think that a lot of people are still inspired by her 1403 01:29:40,755 --> 01:29:43,133 and they don't even realize it. 1404 01:29:43,174 --> 01:29:47,345 Beverly: I stand on the shoulders of my ancestors. 1405 01:29:47,554 --> 01:29:51,516 I stood on Donyale Luna's shoulders 1406 01:29:51,558 --> 01:29:53,643 to get where I am today. 1407 01:29:53,685 --> 01:29:56,062 Dream: I want my daughters to know 1408 01:29:56,146 --> 01:30:01,234 who their grandma was and how special she was. 1409 01:30:01,317 --> 01:30:03,028 Aurora: If there's anything 1410 01:30:03,069 --> 01:30:05,613 that people can take away from her story, 1411 01:30:05,697 --> 01:30:08,867 it's that we cannot continue to let society tell us 1412 01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:12,537 that we are not enough, 'cause it will take us down, 1413 01:30:12,620 --> 01:30:15,623 and we were born more than enough. 1414 01:30:17,500 --> 01:30:19,544 Omar: She was one of a kind. 1415 01:30:19,586 --> 01:30:21,921 Yeah, she was one of a kind. 1416 01:30:23,631 --> 01:30:25,550 Donyale: My complete name is 1417 01:30:25,592 --> 01:30:30,180 Peggy Anna Donyale Cazzaniga Luna Freeman, 1418 01:30:30,221 --> 01:30:34,809 but, uh, I just cut it short and use "Donyale Luna." 1419 01:30:37,228 --> 01:30:40,148 (cool jazz music playing) 1420 01:31:44,295 --> 01:31:46,548 ♪♪ 104091

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